Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

[David Haines]

I just installed the latest version of the KX3 Utility from Elecraft.  
The only glitch was when Windows Defender tried to protect me from bad 
people, but I knew Elecraft wasn't bad people, so overrode the warning.  
All went well otherwise.


david
KC1DNY

On 7/26/2023 3:24 PM, Dave wrote:

Is there a problem with the KX3 Utility? I download the Windows version and get 
this:

KX3_Utility_Setup_1_23_5_22.exe isn’t commonly downloaded

It doesn’t seem to be an .exe file   ??

Any help appreciated.

Tnx,
Dave N8AG


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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 utility

[1lasportsman 1lasportsman]

The magic computer tech fixed it. Thanks for the help.
Unplugged the cable and turned all off then turned on and connected cable again 
and it worked.
Thanks to all that replied.
Bill
WF9M

> On April 2, 2020 at 12:07 PM 1lasportsman 1lasportsman <1lasports...@cox.net 
> mailto:1lasports...@cox.net > wrote:
> 
> 
> I am using the KXusb cable from computer and acc1 plug on radio but it 
> does not connect with radio.
> Do I need to change the radio speed to 38400 or is it automatic?
> If so looked in manual and did not see how
> Bill
> 
> > > On April 2, 2020 at 11:54 AM Jack Brindle  mailto:jackbrin...@me.com mailto:jackbrin...@me.com mailto:jackbrin...@me.com 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > The utility is telling you that it is communicating with your KX3 
> > at 38400 bits/sec. The KX3 has firmware revision 2.90.
> > This is not an error message. It appears to be working just fine.
> > 
> > 73!
> > Jack, W6FB
> > > > On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:41 AM, 1lasportsman 1lasportsman 
> > <1lasports...@cox.net mailto:1lasports...@cox.net 
> > mailto:1lasports...@cox.net mailto:1lasports...@cox.net > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I am trying to use the utility to see radio
> > > 
> > > I am getting this error message
> > > 
> > > KX3 MCU revision 02.90 rs232 speed 38400 bit/s
> > > 
> > > IT worked before but I get this now
> > > 
> > > any ideas the radio works fine but no utility with computer 
> > > .I tried this on 2 computers same error.
> > > 
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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 utility

[1lasportsman 1lasportsman]

I am using the KXusb cable from computer and acc1 plug on radio but it does not 
connect with radio.
Do I need to change the radio speed to 38400 or is it automatic?
If so looked in manual and did not see how
Bill

> On April 2, 2020 at 11:54 AM Jack Brindle  mailto:jackbrin...@me.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> The utility is telling you that it is communicating with your KX3 at 
> 38400 bits/sec. The KX3 has firmware revision 2.90.
> This is not an error message. It appears to be working just fine.
> 
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
> 
> > > On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:41 AM, 1lasportsman 1lasportsman 
> <1lasports...@cox.net mailto:1lasports...@cox.net > wrote:
> > 
> > I am trying to use the utility to see radio
> > 
> > I am getting this error message
> > 
> > KX3 MCU revision 02.90 rs232 speed 38400 bit/s
> > 
> > IT worked before but I get this now
> > 
> > any ideas the radio works fine but no utility with computer .I 
> > tried this on 2 computers same error.
> > 
> > Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 utility

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

The utility is telling you that it is communicating with your KX3 at 38400 
bits/sec. The KX3 has firmware revision 2.90.
This is not an error message. It appears to be working just fine.

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:41 AM, 1lasportsman 1lasportsman <1lasports...@cox.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I am trying to use the utility to see radio
> 
> I am getting this error message
> 
> KX3 MCU revision 02.90 rs232 speed 38400 bit/s
> 
> IT worked before but I get this now
> 
> any ideas the radio works fine but no utility with computer .I tried this on 
> 2 computers same error.
> 
> Bill
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Terminal window for CW

[David Haines]

Fred says "Optionally, you can use the KX3 Utility to monitor an 
extended display of characters sent from the KX3's keyer."  I assume 
"keyer" could refer to the paddle connected to the KX3.


I can type characters into the Utility Terminal lower window and 
Transmit the CW.  The characters sent are displayed in the top window.


david

KC1DNY

On 12/31/2019 7:48 PM, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote:

Hello David,

I'm enjoying and getting a lot out of our CW discussion.  I've tried 
to use the KX3 uUtility for practice sending CW.


p. 60 of Fred Cady's big, excellent Elecraft KX-Line book says I 
shouldbe able to use the Terminal window of the Utility to display 
the text of the CW I'm sending, but I've never been able to get it to 
work.


Any ideas? 


I use the "Terminal Window" of "Elecraft KX3 Utility" for typing CW 
via keyboard.And the characters sent are displayed.


But I can't decode characters given with the key. Only via keyboard - 
butthat was not your intention. Did Fred Cady write if they were the 
characters entered with a key or with a keyboard?


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Terminal window for CW

[Don Wilhelm]

Ingo and all,

The characters entered with the keyboard will be perfectly formed,
If entered via paddles, bug ot hand key, they may not be perfectly 
formed and may not be decoded properly.

This is a tool that can be used to practice your sending.

73 and HNY,
Don W3FPR

On 12/31/2019 7:48 PM, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote:

Hello David,

I'm enjoying and getting a lot out of our CW discussion.  I've tried 
to use the KX3 uUtility for practice sending CW.


p. 60 of Fred Cady's big, excellent Elecraft KX-Line book says I 
shouldbe able to use the Terminal window of the Utility to display the 
text of the CW I'm sending, but I've never been able to get it to work.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Terminal window for CW

[Ingo Meyer, DK3RED]

Hello David,

I'm enjoying and getting a lot out of our CW discussion.  I've tried to use the KX3 
uUtility for practice sending CW.


p. 60 of Fred Cady's big, excellent Elecraft KX-Line book says I shouldbe able to use the 
Terminal window of the Utility to display the text of the CW I'm sending, but I've never 
been able to get it to work.


Any ideas? 


I use the "Terminal Window" of "Elecraft KX3 Utility" for typing CW via keyboard.And the 
characters sent are displayed.


But I can't decode characters given with the key. Only via keyboard - butthat was not your 
intention. Did Fred Cady write if they were the characters entered with a key or with a 
keyboard?


73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power!
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Don Sayler]

I use a powered hub with my K3S, no problems. I  haven't tried it with an 
unpowered one.
Granted, maybe the KX3 is different...

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Hank
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 8:10 AM
To: Raymond Sills; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed





Ray...
I did not realize that!� I did RTFM - I promise.� I guessed I missed that one. 
It has worked under the 1st configuration ever since I bought the KX3.� One day 
it changed - I was blaming a Windows update.


My K3s is connected to a USB hub external to my desktop PC and works OK - Of 
course, the K3s is a USB device.


Mystery solved!!


Hank
K4HYJ






-Original Message-
From: "Raymond Sills" 
To: h...@optilink.us
Date: 04/15/19 08:22
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Hi Hank:


It's always been the case when using the Elecraft Utility, that you need to 
connect the rig directly to your computer, using the Elecraft cable with no 
other devices in line. �That's why you succeeded with case 3.


:)


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



-Original Message-
From: HB 
To: Nr4c ; Andy McMullin 
Cc: Elecraft list 
Sent: Sun, Apr 14, 2019 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Okay�some weirdness, but I can get the software to work.� Here is what I have 
done (some help from you guys, some help from the IT guys where I work, and the 
internet).� It's a little complex�

Configuration 1: My laptop is connected via USB to a PK-232SC+ which has a 2 
port USB hub built in - my KXUSB is plugged in there.� Under this 
configuration, no joy with the KX3 Utility recognizing the COM port.

Configuration 2: My laptop is connected to the KX3 directly via USB port.� 
Under this configuration, no joy with the KX3 Utility recognizing the COM port.

Configuration 3: My laptop is connected to the KX3 directly via USB port.� 
Under COM port settings for the KX3USB connected port,� I changed the latency 
timer to 8 ms from 16 ms.� Under this configuration, the KX3 Utility recognizes 
the COM port every time.

Returning to configuration one with the lower latency timer setting does not 
allow the KX3 utility to see the com port, so no joy there.

BUT - it's a weird BUT - If I connect the KXUSB directly to the laptop, open 
the utility and connect, disconnect the KX3USB from the laptop and connect it 
to the hub built in to the PK-232sc+, it works as long as I don't exit the KX3 
utility software.� I can even close the serial port in the software, BUT as 
long as I don't exit the software, I can reopen the serial port and it works 
fine.� I can close the port and use other software that needs the KXUSB as long 
as I don't exit the KX3 utility program (just leave it minimized) it works when 
I need it.

How crazy is that?� Any gurus figure that one out??

Hank
K4HYJ


From: Nr4c
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Andy McMullin
Cc: Elecraft list
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

On the FTDI site there is a removal tool. Use it to wipe away com port drivers. 
Then re-install the FTDI drivers for your KUSB or KXUSB cable.

Good luck!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Apr 14, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Andy McMullin via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
>
> Can I just add that at the stage that says reboot, you should really shut 
> down the machine, wait a bit, then
> Restart. Sometimes a USB port is not physically but just logically reset by a 
> reboot.
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Regards
> Andy, G8TQH
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 14 Apr 2019, at 18:17, Tom  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Sometimes driver software can be a pain...
>> Try this.
>> 1) Open the device manager and select the comport by right clicking on it.
>> 2) Check the box to delete the driver software and uninstall.
>> 3) Unplug the USB cable.
>> 4) Reboot
>> 5) Next run the FTDI driver installation.� When prompted or when complete, 
>> plug the USB cable back in.
>> Sometimes, windows will keep reinstalling the same driver if the files have 
>> not been deleted.
>> 73 Tom
>> va2fsq.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
>> Behalf Of HB
>> Sent: April 14, 2019 12:47 PM
>> To: donw...@embarqmail.com; 'Dick Dievendorff' 
>> Cc: 'Elecraft list' 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>>
>> I have done all of those things and no change.� As I said every other piece 
>> of software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine - just not the 
>> utility software.
>>
>> There is something to the driv

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Bill Frantz]

I can, and almost always do, use the K3/P3/KX3 utilities through 
a hub to my Elecraft USB <--> RS232 cable or K3 upgraded 
internal equivalent from my Mac. The connection between the two 
USB <--> RS232 connections persist over shutting down and moving 
the computer.


What is going on with Windows USB support?

73 Bill AE6JV

On 4/15/19 at 8:10 AM, h...@optilink.us (Hank) wrote:

It's always been the case when using the Elecraft Utility, that 
you need to connect the rig directly to your computer, using 
the Elecraft cable with no other devices in line.  That's 
why you succeeded with case 3.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Hank]

Ray...
I did not realize that!  I did RTFM - I promise.  I guessed I missed that one. 
It has worked under the 1st configuration ever since I bought the KX3.  One day 
it changed - I was blaming a Windows update.


My K3s is connected to a USB hub external to my desktop PC and works OK - Of 
course, the K3s is a USB device.


Mystery solved!!


Hank
K4HYJ






-Original Message-
From: "Raymond Sills" 
To: h...@optilink.us
Date: 04/15/19 08:22
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Hi Hank:


It's always been the case when using the Elecraft Utility, that you need to 
connect the rig directly to your computer, using the Elecraft cable with no 
other devices in line.  That's why you succeeded with case 3.


:)


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



-Original Message-
From: HB 
To: Nr4c ; Andy McMullin 
Cc: Elecraft list 
Sent: Sun, Apr 14, 2019 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Okay…some weirdness, but I can get the software to work.  Here is what I have 
done (some help from you guys, some help from the IT guys where I work, and the 
internet).  It's a little complex…

Configuration 1: My laptop is connected via USB to a PK-232SC+ which has a 2 
port USB hub built in - my KXUSB is plugged in there.  Under this 
configuration, no joy with the KX3 Utility recognizing the COM port.

Configuration 2: My laptop is connected to the KX3 directly via USB port.  
Under this configuration, no joy with the KX3 Utility recognizing the COM port.

Configuration 3: My laptop is connected to the KX3 directly via USB port.  
Under COM port settings for the KX3USB connected port,  I changed the latency 
timer to 8 ms from 16 ms.  Under this configuration, the KX3 Utility recognizes 
the COM port every time.

Returning to configuration one with the lower latency timer setting does not 
allow the KX3 utility to see the com port, so no joy there.

BUT - it's a weird BUT - If I connect the KXUSB directly to the laptop, open 
the utility and connect, disconnect the KX3USB from the laptop and connect it 
to the hub built in to the PK-232sc+, it works as long as I don't exit the KX3 
utility software.  I can even close the serial port in the software, BUT as 
long as I don't exit the software, I can reopen the serial port and it works 
fine.  I can close the port and use other software that needs the KXUSB as long 
as I don't exit the KX3 utility program (just leave it minimized) it works when 
I need it.

How crazy is that?  Any gurus figure that one out??

Hank
K4HYJ


From: Nr4c
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Andy McMullin
Cc: Elecraft list
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

On the FTDI site there is a removal tool. Use it to wipe away com port drivers. 
Then re-install the FTDI drivers for your KUSB or KXUSB cable.

Good luck!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Apr 14, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Andy McMullin via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
>
> Can I just add that at the stage that says reboot, you should really shut 
> down the machine, wait a bit, then
> Restart. Sometimes a USB port is not physically but just logically reset by a 
> reboot.
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Regards
> Andy, G8TQH
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 14 Apr 2019, at 18:17, Tom  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Sometimes driver software can be a pain...
>> Try this.
>> 1) Open the device manager and select the comport by right clicking on it.
>> 2) Check the box to delete the driver software and uninstall.
>> 3) Unplug the USB cable.
>> 4) Reboot
>> 5) Next run the FTDI driver installation.  When prompted or when complete, 
>> plug the USB cable back in.
>> Sometimes, windows will keep reinstalling the same driver if the files have 
>> not been deleted.
>> 73 Tom
>> va2fsq.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
>> Behalf Of HB
>> Sent: April 14, 2019 12:47 PM
>> To: donw...@embarqmail.com; 'Dick Dievendorff' 
>> Cc: 'Elecraft list' 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>>
>> I have done all of those things and no change.  As I said every other piece 
>> of software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine - just not the 
>> utility software.
>>
>> There is something to the driver installation - it shows as incomplete, but 
>> reinstalling the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website still does not fix the 
>> problem.  There is still an event message saying that the installation did 
>> not complete.
>>
>> I realizer this is not an Elecraft issue, I'm just looking for help.
>>
>> Hank
>> K4HYJ
>>
>> From: Don Wilhelm
>

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Bill Johnson]

Do you have a desktop virus?  A major cause of what you are experiencing.?

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of HB 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:17:13 PM
To: Nr4c; Andy McMullin
Cc: Elecraft list
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Okay…some weirdness, but I can get the software to work.  Here is what I have 
done (some help from you guys, some help from the IT guys where I work, and the 
internet).  It’s a little complex…

Configuration 1: My laptop is connected via USB to a PK-232SC+ which has a 2 
port USB hub built in – my KXUSB is plugged in there.  Under this 
configuration, no joy with the KX3 Utility recognizing the COM port.

Configuration 2: My laptop is connected to the KX3 directly via USB port.  
Under this configuration, no joy with the KX3 Utility recognizing the COM port.

Configuration 3: My laptop is connected to the KX3 directly via USB port.  
Under COM port settings for the KX3USB connected port,  I changed the latency 
timer to 8 ms from 16 ms.  Under this configuration, the KX3 Utility recognizes 
the COM port every time.

Returning to configuration one with the lower latency timer setting does not 
allow the KX3 utility to see the com port, so no joy there.

BUT – it’s a weird BUT – If I connect the KXUSB directly to the laptop, open 
the utility and connect, disconnect the KX3USB from the laptop and connect it 
to the hub built in to the PK-232sc+, it works as long as I don’t exit the KX3 
utility software.  I can even close the serial port in the software, BUT as 
long as I don’t exit the software, I can reopen the serial port and it works 
fine.  I can close the port and use other software that needs the KXUSB as long 
as I don’t exit the KX3 utility program (just leave it minimized) it works when 
I need it.

How crazy is that?  Any gurus figure that one out??

Hank
K4HYJ


From: Nr4c
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Andy McMullin
Cc: Elecraft list
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

On the FTDI site there is a removal tool. Use it to wipe away com port drivers. 
Then re-install the FTDI drivers for your KUSB or KXUSB cable.

Good luck!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Apr 14, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Andy McMullin via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
>
> Can I just add that at the stage that says reboot, you should really shut 
> down the machine, wait a bit, then
> Restart. Sometimes a USB port is not physically but just logically reset by a 
> reboot.
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Regards
> Andy, G8TQH
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 14 Apr 2019, at 18:17, Tom  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Sometimes driver software can be a pain...
>> Try this.
>> 1) Open the device manager and select the comport by right clicking on it.
>> 2) Check the box to delete the driver software and uninstall.
>> 3) Unplug the USB cable.
>> 4) Reboot
>> 5) Next run the FTDI driver installation.  When prompted or when complete, 
>> plug the USB cable back in.
>> Sometimes, windows will keep reinstalling the same driver if the files have 
>> not been deleted.
>> 73 Tom
>> va2fsq.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
>> Behalf Of HB
>> Sent: April 14, 2019 12:47 PM
>> To: donw...@embarqmail.com; 'Dick Dievendorff' 
>> Cc: 'Elecraft list' 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>>
>> I have done all of those things and no change.  As I said every other piece 
>> of software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine – just not the 
>> utility software.
>>
>> There is something to the driver installation – it shows as incomplete, but 
>> reinstalling the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website still does not fix the 
>> problem.  There is still an event message saying that the installation did 
>> not complete.
>>
>> I realizer this is not an Elecraft issue, I’m just looking for help.
>>
>> Hank
>> K4HYJ
>>
>> From: Don Wilhelm
>> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:09 AM
>> To: h...@optilink.us; 'Dick Dievendorff'
>> Cc: 'Elecraft list'
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>>
>> Hank,
>>
>> Installing KX3 Utility will do nothing for changing what your computer does 
>> about COM Ports vs USB port assignment.  It is now apparent that your 
>> computer is not properly recognizing the FTDI USB to Serial adapter.
>>
>> Download and install the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website.
>> What you are trying to deal with is an FTDI USB to Seri

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[HB]

Okay…some weirdness, but I can get the software to work.  Here is what I have 
done (some help from you guys, some help from the IT guys where I work, and the 
internet).  It’s a little complex…

Configuration 1: My laptop is connected via USB to a PK-232SC+ which has a 2 
port USB hub built in – my KXUSB is plugged in there.  Under this 
configuration, no joy with the KX3 Utility recognizing the COM port.

Configuration 2: My laptop is connected to the KX3 directly via USB port.  
Under this configuration, no joy with the KX3 Utility recognizing the COM port.

Configuration 3: My laptop is connected to the KX3 directly via USB port.  
Under COM port settings for the KX3USB connected port,  I changed the latency 
timer to 8 ms from 16 ms.  Under this configuration, the KX3 Utility recognizes 
the COM port every time.

Returning to configuration one with the lower latency timer setting does not 
allow the KX3 utility to see the com port, so no joy there.

BUT – it’s a weird BUT – If I connect the KXUSB directly to the laptop, open 
the utility and connect, disconnect the KX3USB from the laptop and connect it 
to the hub built in to the PK-232sc+, it works as long as I don’t exit the KX3 
utility software.  I can even close the serial port in the software, BUT as 
long as I don’t exit the software, I can reopen the serial port and it works 
fine.  I can close the port and use other software that needs the KXUSB as long 
as I don’t exit the KX3 utility program (just leave it minimized) it works when 
I need it.

How crazy is that?  Any gurus figure that one out??

Hank
K4HYJ


From: Nr4c
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 3:31 PM
To: Andy McMullin
Cc: Elecraft list
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

On the FTDI site there is a removal tool. Use it to wipe away com port drivers. 
Then re-install the FTDI drivers for your KUSB or KXUSB cable. 

Good luck!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Apr 14, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Andy McMullin via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can I just add that at the stage that says reboot, you should really shut 
> down the machine, wait a bit, then
> Restart. Sometimes a USB port is not physically but just logically reset by a 
> reboot. 
> 
> I hope this helps
> 
> Regards
> Andy, G8TQH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2019, at 18:17, Tom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Sometimes driver software can be a pain...
>> Try this.
>> 1) Open the device manager and select the comport by right clicking on it.
>> 2) Check the box to delete the driver software and uninstall.
>> 3) Unplug the USB cable.
>> 4) Reboot
>> 5) Next run the FTDI driver installation.  When prompted or when complete, 
>> plug the USB cable back in.
>> Sometimes, windows will keep reinstalling the same driver if the files have 
>> not been deleted.
>> 73 Tom
>> va2fsq.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
>> Behalf Of HB
>> Sent: April 14, 2019 12:47 PM
>> To: donw...@embarqmail.com; 'Dick Dievendorff' 
>> Cc: 'Elecraft list' 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>> 
>> I have done all of those things and no change.  As I said every other piece 
>> of software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine – just not the 
>> utility software.
>> 
>> There is something to the driver installation – it shows as incomplete, but 
>> reinstalling the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website still does not fix the 
>> problem.  There is still an event message saying that the installation did 
>> not complete.
>> 
>> I realizer this is not an Elecraft issue, I’m just looking for help.
>> 
>> Hank
>> K4HYJ
>> 
>> From: Don Wilhelm
>> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:09 AM
>> To: h...@optilink.us; 'Dick Dievendorff'
>> Cc: 'Elecraft list'
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>> 
>> Hank,
>> 
>> Installing KX3 Utility will do nothing for changing what your computer does 
>> about COM Ports vs USB port assignment.  It is now apparent that your 
>> computer is not properly recognizing the FTDI USB to Serial adapter.
>> 
>> Download and install the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website.
>> What you are trying to deal with is an FTDI USB to Serial adapter.  Just 
>> because the KXUSB cable is sold by Elecraft does not c

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Nr4c]

On the FTDI site there is a removal tool. Use it to wipe away com port drivers. 
Then re-install the FTDI drivers for your KUSB or KXUSB cable. 

Good luck!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Apr 14, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Andy McMullin via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can I just add that at the stage that says reboot, you should really shut 
> down the machine, wait a bit, then
> Restart. Sometimes a USB port is not physically but just logically reset by a 
> reboot. 
> 
> I hope this helps
> 
> Regards
> Andy, G8TQH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2019, at 18:17, Tom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Sometimes driver software can be a pain...
>> Try this.
>> 1) Open the device manager and select the comport by right clicking on it.
>> 2) Check the box to delete the driver software and uninstall.
>> 3) Unplug the USB cable.
>> 4) Reboot
>> 5) Next run the FTDI driver installation.  When prompted or when complete, 
>> plug the USB cable back in.
>> Sometimes, windows will keep reinstalling the same driver if the files have 
>> not been deleted.
>> 73 Tom
>> va2fsq.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
>> Behalf Of HB
>> Sent: April 14, 2019 12:47 PM
>> To: donw...@embarqmail.com; 'Dick Dievendorff' 
>> Cc: 'Elecraft list' 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>> 
>> I have done all of those things and no change.  As I said every other piece 
>> of software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine – just not the 
>> utility software.
>> 
>> There is something to the driver installation – it shows as incomplete, but 
>> reinstalling the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website still does not fix the 
>> problem.  There is still an event message saying that the installation did 
>> not complete.
>> 
>> I realizer this is not an Elecraft issue, I’m just looking for help.
>> 
>> Hank
>> K4HYJ
>> 
>> From: Don Wilhelm
>> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:09 AM
>> To: h...@optilink.us; 'Dick Dievendorff'
>> Cc: 'Elecraft list'
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>> 
>> Hank,
>> 
>> Installing KX3 Utility will do nothing for changing what your computer does 
>> about COM Ports vs USB port assignment.  It is now apparent that your 
>> computer is not properly recognizing the FTDI USB to Serial adapter.
>> 
>> Download and install the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website.
>> What you are trying to deal with is an FTDI USB to Serial adapter.  Just 
>> because the KXUSB cable is sold by Elecraft does not c

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

Can I just add that at the stage that says reboot, you should really shut down 
the machine, wait a bit, then
Restart. Sometimes a USB port is not physically but just logically reset by a 
reboot. 

I hope this helps

Regards
Andy, G8TQH

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Apr 2019, at 18:17, Tom  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Sometimes driver software can be a pain...
> Try this.
> 1) Open the device manager and select the comport by right clicking on it.
> 2) Check the box to delete the driver software and uninstall.
> 3) Unplug the USB cable.
> 4) Reboot
> 5) Next run the FTDI driver installation.  When prompted or when complete, 
> plug the USB cable back in.
> Sometimes, windows will keep reinstalling the same driver if the files have 
> not been deleted.
> 73 Tom
> va2fsq.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of HB
> Sent: April 14, 2019 12:47 PM
> To: donw...@embarqmail.com; 'Dick Dievendorff' 
> Cc: 'Elecraft list' 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
> 
> I have done all of those things and no change.  As I said every other piece 
> of software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine – just not the 
> utility software.
> 
> There is something to the driver installation – it shows as incomplete, but 
> reinstalling the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website still does not fix the 
> problem.  There is still an event message saying that the installation did 
> not complete.
> 
> I realizer this is not an Elecraft issue, I’m just looking for help.
> 
> Hank
> K4HYJ
> 
> From: Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: h...@optilink.us; 'Dick Dievendorff'
> Cc: 'Elecraft list'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
> 
> Hank,
> 
> Installing KX3 Utility will do nothing for changing what your computer does 
> about COM Ports vs USB port assignment.  It is now apparent that your 
> computer is not properly recognizing the FTDI USB to Serial adapter.
> 
> Download and install the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website.
> What you are trying to deal with is an FTDI USB to Serial adapter.  Just 
> because the KXUSB cable is sold by Elecraft does not change that fact - the 
> FTDI chipset is not an Elecraft device, but an FTDI device even though it is 
> included in the KXUSB.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 4/14/2019 10:06 AM, h...@optilink.us wrote:
>> Reinstalling the KX3 utility software from the Elecraft site did nothing.
>> 
>> How can I check the registry values on the PC to know if that is the cause?
>> 
>> Hank
>> K4HYJ
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dick Dievendorff 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:47 AM
>> To: donw...@embarqmail.com
>> Cc: HB ; Elecraft list 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>> 
>> The kx3 gets its inventory of com ports from registry values populated by 
>> complete device driver installation.
>> 
>> Dick, K6KR
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Tom]

Hi,
Sometimes driver software can be a pain...
Try this.
1) Open the device manager and select the comport by right clicking on it.
2) Check the box to delete the driver software and uninstall.
3) Unplug the USB cable.
4) Reboot
5) Next run the FTDI driver installation.  When prompted or when complete, plug 
the USB cable back in.
Sometimes, windows will keep reinstalling the same driver if the files have not 
been deleted.
73 Tom
va2fsq.com
 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of HB
Sent: April 14, 2019 12:47 PM
To: donw...@embarqmail.com; 'Dick Dievendorff' 
Cc: 'Elecraft list' 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

I have done all of those things and no change.  As I said every other piece of 
software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine – just not the utility 
software.

There is something to the driver installation – it shows as incomplete, but 
reinstalling the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website still does not fix the 
problem.  There is still an event message saying that the installation did not 
complete.

I realizer this is not an Elecraft issue, I’m just looking for help.

Hank
K4HYJ

From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:09 AM
To: h...@optilink.us; 'Dick Dievendorff'
Cc: 'Elecraft list'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Hank,

Installing KX3 Utility will do nothing for changing what your computer does 
about COM Ports vs USB port assignment.  It is now apparent that your computer 
is not properly recognizing the FTDI USB to Serial adapter.

Download and install the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website.
What you are trying to deal with is an FTDI USB to Serial adapter.  Just 
because the KXUSB cable is sold by Elecraft does not change that fact - the 
FTDI chipset is not an Elecraft device, but an FTDI device even though it is 
included in the KXUSB.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/14/2019 10:06 AM, h...@optilink.us wrote:
> Reinstalling the KX3 utility software from the Elecraft site did nothing.
>
> How can I check the registry values on the PC to know if that is the cause?
>
> Hank
> K4HYJ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Dievendorff 
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:47 AM
> To: donw...@embarqmail.com
> Cc: HB ; Elecraft list 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>
> The kx3 gets its inventory of com ports from registry values populated by 
> complete device driver installation.
>
> Dick, K6KR
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[HB]

I have done all of those things and no change.  As I said every other piece of 
software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine – just not the utility 
software.

There is something to the driver installation – it shows as incomplete, but 
reinstalling the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website still does not fix the 
problem.  There is still an event message saying that the installation did not 
complete.

I realizer this is not an Elecraft issue, I’m just looking for help.

Hank
K4HYJ

From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:09 AM
To: h...@optilink.us; 'Dick Dievendorff'
Cc: 'Elecraft list'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Hank,

Installing KX3 Utility will do nothing for changing what your computer 
does about COM Ports vs USB port assignment.  It is now apparent that 
your computer is not properly recognizing the FTDI USB to Serial adapter.

Download and install the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website.
What you are trying to deal with is an FTDI USB to Serial adapter.  Just 
because the KXUSB cable is sold by Elecraft does not change that fact - 
the FTDI chipset is not an Elecraft device, but an FTDI device even 
though it is included in the KXUSB.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/14/2019 10:06 AM, h...@optilink.us wrote:
> Reinstalling the KX3 utility software from the Elecraft site did nothing.
>
> How can I check the registry values on the PC to know if that is the cause?
>
> Hank
> K4HYJ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Dievendorff 
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:47 AM
> To: donw...@embarqmail.com
> Cc: HB ; Elecraft list 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>
> The kx3 gets its inventory of com ports from registry values populated by 
> complete device driver installation.
>
> Dick, K6KR
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Don Wilhelm]

Hank,

Installing KX3 Utility will do nothing for changing what your computer 
does about COM Ports vs USB port assignment.  It is now apparent that 
your computer is not properly recognizing the FTDI USB to Serial adapter.


Download and install the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website.
What you are trying to deal with is an FTDI USB to Serial adapter.  Just 
because the KXUSB cable is sold by Elecraft does not change that fact - 
the FTDI chipset is not an Elecraft device, but an FTDI device even 
though it is included in the KXUSB.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/14/2019 10:06 AM, h...@optilink.us wrote:

Reinstalling the KX3 utility software from the Elecraft site did nothing.

How can I check the registry values on the PC to know if that is the cause?

Hank
K4HYJ

-Original Message-
From: Dick Dievendorff 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:47 AM
To: donw...@embarqmail.com
Cc: HB ; Elecraft list 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

The kx3 gets its inventory of com ports from registry values populated by 
complete device driver installation.

Dick, K6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[hbjr]

Reinstalling the KX3 utility software from the Elecraft site did nothing.

How can I check the registry values on the PC to know if that is the cause?

Hank
K4HYJ

-Original Message-
From: Dick Dievendorff  
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:47 AM
To: donw...@embarqmail.com
Cc: HB ; Elecraft list 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

The kx3 gets its inventory of com ports from registry values populated by 
complete device driver installation. 

Dick, K6KR 

> On Apr 12, 2019, at 19:20, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Hank,
> 
> In that case, the next step is to download and install the latest copy of KX3 
> Utility.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 4/12/2019 9:34 PM, HB wrote:
>> 
>> Don….
>> 
>> I have verified the COM port in the Device Manager but the KX3 Utility does 
>> not show any COM ports in the port window.
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Dick Dievendorff]

The kx3 gets its inventory of com ports from registry values populated by 
complete device driver installation. 

Dick, K6KR 

> On Apr 12, 2019, at 19:20, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Hank,
> 
> In that case, the next step is to download and install the latest copy of KX3 
> Utility.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 4/12/2019 9:34 PM, HB wrote:
>> 
>> Don….
>> 
>> I have verified the COM port in the Device Manager but the KX3 Utility does 
>> not show any COM ports in the port window.
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[rv6amark via Elecraft]

Hank,I had a similar problem earlier this week following a Windows update.   
The COM port showed up in Device Manager, but the software  package I was using 
(not the KX3 Utility) couldn't talk to it.  Within a day or so, there was 
another Windows  update,  and then everything worked fine.Sometimes it seems 
like an update breaks something, and a follow on update fixes it.  Not the 
first time I've seen that happen.Mark,KE6BB
 Original message From: HB  Date: 4/12/19  
6:34 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: donw...@embarqmail.com, Elecraft list 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial 
port is closed Don….I have verified the COM port in the Device Manager but the 
KX3 Utility does not show any COM ports in the port window.HankK4HYJ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Don Wilhelm]

Hank,

In that case, the next step is to download and install the latest copy 
of KX3 Utility.



73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/12/2019 9:34 PM, HB wrote:


Don….

I have verified the COM port in the Device Manager but the KX3 Utility 
does not show any COM ports in the port window.





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[HB]

Don….
I have verified the COM port in the Device Manager but the KX3 Utility does not 
show any COM ports in the port window.

Hank
K4HYJ

From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 9:07 PM
To: HB; Elecraft list
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Hank,

Re-boot the computer - it seems all the problems are in your computer. 
Oh, yes, power cycle the KX3 too, but that will not likely make a 
difference.

After rebooting the computer, look in Device Manager to see which COM 
port your computer assigned to the KXUSB adapter, and use that COM port 
in all your applications as well as KX3 Utility.

Windows sometimes changes the COM port (in its infinite wisdom) for you.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/12/2019 7:47 PM, HB wrote:
> Hey folks…
> I have an unusual (I think) problem.  I have a KX3 that I have used the KX3 
> utility software with several times without issue.  Today when I start the 
> software there is no COM port to select.  In the bottom left hand part of the 
> KX3 PORT window is says Serial Port is Closed. (I’m using the Elecraft USB 
> cable for the KX3).
> 
> I can’t get it to work.  I can control my Kx3 with DXLabs using the COM port 
> no problem.  I can use the Elecraft Frequency editor with no problem.  I can 
> use WinLink Express no problem.  But when I start the KX3 utility software I 
> can’t select a COM port – there are none listed.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[HB]

Yes – multiple reboots.  


From: Jim - N4ST
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:21 PM
To: 'HB'; 'Elecraft list'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

I just had this problem today after "upgrading" to Windows 10 Ver 1809.
Windows told me the COM port was closed, even though it showed up in device 
manager.
A reboot fixed it.
YMMV
_ 
73,
Jim - N4ST

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of HB
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 19:47
To: Elecraft list 
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Hey folks…
I have an unusual (I think) problem.  I have a KX3 that I have used the KX3 
utility software with several times without issue.  Today when I start the 
software there is no COM port to select.  In the bottom left hand part of the 
KX3 PORT window is says Serial Port is Closed. (I’m using the Elecraft USB 
cable for the KX3).

I can’t get it to work.  I can control my Kx3 with DXLabs using the COM port no 
problem.  I can use the Elecraft Frequency editor with no problem.  I can use 
WinLink Express no problem.  But when I start the KX3 utility software I can’t 
select a COM port – there are none listed.

Here is my troubleshooting so far:
1. I know the COM port is there – it works for other software 2. I used the 
FTDI driver removal tool and uninstalled the FTDI drivers 3. I uninstalled the 
KX3 software 4. Reinstalled everything – but the issue remains

Any ideas?

PC: Surface Pro Laptop w/Windoze 10

Hank
K4HYJ


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Don Wilhelm]

Hank,

Re-boot the computer - it seems all the problems are in your computer. 
Oh, yes, power cycle the KX3 too, but that will not likely make a 
difference.


After rebooting the computer, look in Device Manager to see which COM 
port your computer assigned to the KXUSB adapter, and use that COM port 
in all your applications as well as KX3 Utility.


Windows sometimes changes the COM port (in its infinite wisdom) for you.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/12/2019 7:47 PM, HB wrote:

Hey folks…
I have an unusual (I think) problem.  I have a KX3 that I have used the KX3 
utility software with several times without issue.  Today when I start the 
software there is no COM port to select.  In the bottom left hand part of the 
KX3 PORT window is says Serial Port is Closed. (I’m using the Elecraft USB 
cable for the KX3).

I can’t get it to work.  I can control my Kx3 with DXLabs using the COM port no 
problem.  I can use the Elecraft Frequency editor with no problem.  I can use 
WinLink Express no problem.  But when I start the KX3 utility software I can’t 
select a COM port – there are none listed.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Jim - N4ST]

I just had this problem today after "upgrading" to Windows 10 Ver 1809.
Windows told me the COM port was closed, even though it showed up in device 
manager.
A reboot fixed it.
YMMV
_ 
73,
Jim - N4ST

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of HB
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 19:47
To: Elecraft list 
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

Hey folks…
I have an unusual (I think) problem.  I have a KX3 that I have used the KX3 
utility software with several times without issue.  Today when I start the 
software there is no COM port to select.  In the bottom left hand part of the 
KX3 PORT window is says Serial Port is Closed. (I’m using the Elecraft USB 
cable for the KX3).

I can’t get it to work.  I can control my Kx3 with DXLabs using the COM port no 
problem.  I can use the Elecraft Frequency editor with no problem.  I can use 
WinLink Express no problem.  But when I start the KX3 utility software I can’t 
select a COM port – there are none listed.

Here is my troubleshooting so far:
1. I know the COM port is there – it works for other software 2. I used the 
FTDI driver removal tool and uninstalled the FTDI drivers 3. I uninstalled the 
KX3 software 4. Reinstalled everything – but the issue remains

Any ideas?

PC: Surface Pro Laptop w/Windoze 10

Hank
K4HYJ


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Nr4c]

Did you re-boot the computer?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Apr 12, 2019, at 7:47 PM, HB  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks…
> I have an unusual (I think) problem.  I have a KX3 that I have used the KX3 
> utility software with several times without issue.  Today when I start the 
> software there is no COM port to select.  In the bottom left hand part of the 
> KX3 PORT window is says Serial Port is Closed. (I’m using the Elecraft USB 
> cable for the KX3).
> 
> I can’t get it to work.  I can control my Kx3 with DXLabs using the COM port 
> no problem.  I can use the Elecraft Frequency editor with no problem.  I can 
> use WinLink Express no problem.  But when I start the KX3 utility software I 
> can’t select a COM port – there are none listed.
> 
> Here is my troubleshooting so far:
> 1. I know the COM port is there – it works for other software
> 2. I used the FTDI driver removal tool and uninstalled the FTDI drivers 
> 3. I uninstalled the KX3 software
> 4. Reinstalled everything – but the issue remains
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> PC: Surface Pro Laptop w/Windoze 10
> 
> Hank
> K4HYJ
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-Utility worked in May but not now.

[Nr4c]

Why 4800 baud?

I think it works better at 34.8. 

And the KXUSB that I got with my KX3 was a FTDI based unit. 

Unplug all USB devices except the one for the radio. See what Device Manager 
has to say. 

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> On Nov 27, 2018, at 11:58 PM, JEROME SODUS  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> As the subject-line states, my records show that all was good this past May 
> when I checked if I was up-to-date firmware-wise.
> 
> Also, in September, for the power-up sequence, I successfully used the 
> Utility to put in a banner with my call-sign.
> 
> 
> The idea today was to get DX-Lab and its WinWarbler connected to the KX3.
> 
> I had read that the KX3's CW-decoding could be displayed in WinWarbler.
> 
> 
> But now, I have an issue and I'm not even out of the starting-gate.
> 
> The Utility's tab "Firmware" shows that wheels are spinning in "Attempting to 
> connect KX3 on port COM3 at " using various bit/s speeds.
> 
> The KX3 is set at 4800 bits/s.
> 
> 
> So, I used Win10's trouble-shooting and got this message:
> 
> The error I get is "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port (COM8) has a driver 
> problem."
> 
> 
> I'm mystified that I see COM3 in one place and COM8 in another.
> 
> I have no idea what to do next.
> 
> I was horrified to read that I had a Prolific USB adapter; so much bad press 
> about Prolific.
> 
> TIA for any help.
> 
> 73 Jerry KM3K
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Dave B via Elecraft]

Don't forget ...

    sudo apt install curl

on a command line, If you find it errors trying to get the firmware
updates from Elecraft.


Also, it's just:-

    file kx3util

on a command line, from within the directory where the "target" file
(kx3util) is, to find out it's details.

dave@G0WBX-Dell-System-XPS-L502X ~/Elecraft/kx3util_1_14_4_11 $ file kx3util
kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

(an older version of the utility.)

73.

Dave G0WBX (currently using Mint 17.2 32 bit.)



On 12/06/18 15:11, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version
> Message-ID: <6574d2ac-395d-4538-9761-7a53b5cea...@sy-edm.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> KX3 Utils
>
> I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).
>
> I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type
>
> mkdir /elecraft 
> chdir /elecraft
> wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz  
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
> cd kx3util_1_16_6_25
>
> Now to see what this file is 
>
> file file kx3util
>
> I get the following output?.
>
> kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), 
> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, 
> stripped
>
> Ok  - it is a 32bit Image? So it will not run. 
>
> Here?s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding 
> some needed libs
>
> dpkg --add-architecture i386
> apt-get update 
> apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
> Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links 
> (because I added the the i386 libs)
>
> ldd kx3util
>   linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d)
>   libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
>   libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
>   libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf763)
>   libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
>   libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
>   libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
>   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)
>
> Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.
>
> Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script for 
> this.
>
>
> FROM ubuntu:16.04
> MAINTAINER a4...@sy-edm.com
>
> #Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
> #by adding i386 lib references
> #It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
> #
> #Suggested Build:
> #docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
> #
> #Suggested Run:
> #docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
> run apt-get update && \
> apt-get install wget -y
>
> run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
> apt-get update && \
> mkdir /elecraft && \
> chdir /elecraft && \
> wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz 
> && \
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
> apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>   Tim, A45WG => DU3/M0FGC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Dave B via Elecraft]

Don't let a few idiots put you off Linux.

Look into the linux...@groups.io mailing list (the home of Fldigi etc)
Lots of GOOD help on there, by many who remember our initial frustration
with it all.  (Some Elecraft users there too.)

As to one OS vs another.  Linux is different, that is all.

Do any of you remember when you first started using Windows or Mac*?
I'll bet that was just as frustrating and confusing then, as if you
expect to "just jump in, and survive" with Linux (or BSD, or MacOS)
these days.

(* Has to be said, that back in the Steve Jobs days, the UI was truly a
work of art, you didn't need instructions.  Since his sad demise, it's
all gone a bit Pete Tong.)

As others have said, it is possible to have a PC that will boot it's
original OS (Windows or Mac) or one or more versions of Linux (or any
other OS) so you can choose at boot time what you want.

Yes, there are several well known Ham Radio programs that have no
"Direct equivalent" Linux version, but there is other equaly good
software native to Linux that will do the same job.  Mostly.

There are also some that have no equivalent, or even anything close
(sadly.)   Some of them will run under WINE, some wont.

But, unless you use them all the time every day, you won't need them
most of the time.  (Thinking here of Motorola DMR programming software
as an example.)  In such cases, just boot into Windows, get that job
done, then if needed reboot back into Linux (or whatever) and carry on.

If you want to just get your toes wet, without risk of corrupting or
bricking your main PC, get another, or even a Raspberry Pi, to
experiment on.  The Pi's are good, as the whole OS etc fits on one SD
card.  If you mess it up, it's trivial to wipe and start over.

The latest Pi's are really good and powerful machines too, much more
than you'd expect from something of it's size, and at the price, can't
be beat.

Dont give up.  Keep moving.  Explore the pre-built packages first,
before trying to learn how to compile stuf from source.

But when ready, get onto the Fldigi wiki, and follow the build
instructions there, to build and install the latest Fldigi etc.
http://www.w1hkj.com/doku/doku.php?id=start

If needed, ask on linuxham.io for assistance, and it will be given.

73.

Dave G0WBX.

(KX3, TS870s, FT736r, Mostly Linux these days, but still use Windows at
work.)


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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Re:?? "if you don't understand the language, go away".
> 
> THANK YOU, DON!!!
> 
> I agree with your entire post.? I have actually asked for help in forums, and 
> the responders have made typos what they tell me to type, and then they brow 
> beat me because they made a mistake.? One of them actually said, "You should 
> have known what I meant to type!"? YIKES!? Not exactly a friendly community.
> 
> Every time I think about switching to Linux, it doesn't take me long to 
> reconsider.? Way too many hours are spent trying to make things work.? It 
> just isn't worth the trouble.
> 
> Mark
> KE6BB
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[George Pasek]

Ok, here’s what was sent to me to get the 32 bit KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz 
installed on Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition 18.3  64-bit.  
Now the KX3 Utility is running.
tnx to all that responded.
de  George
WD0AKZ
dit – dit
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Try these suggestions to get 32-bit running.

*  Dependencies for use with Elecraft Linux-based Utilities 


1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions 

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and require installing 32-bit 
compatiblity libraries on 64-bit distros that will allow 32-bit apps to run. 




On Unbuntu 14 and later based distros:

sudo apt-get install libwebkitgtk-1.0.0:i386

sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module:i386

sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 
libglib2.0-0:i386 libsoup2.4-1:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386

2) cURL must be installed on your Linux distro for FTP

You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have it 
pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure your DialOut groups are set up properly

Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have 
read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot 
access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy way 
to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group.

sudo adduser username dialout

4) All files and directories included in the gzipped tar file must be kept 
together in the same location. The "Help directory", "Libs" directory (ie 
k3util Libs), and executable binary (ie k3util) must all be located together in 
the same directory. 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[rich hurd WC3T]

Simultaneous Perioheral Opeations On Line.   :)

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 21:23 Mike Markowski  wrote:

> I don't reach as far back as bus & tag pairs, but I'm with you, Rich.
> :-)  TOPS-10, MCP, VMS, and the best - Unix!  A picture I shared here
> recently of a fun little retro computer recreation:
>
>http://udel.edu/~mm/pidp8i/
>
> Running the original os/8.  Fun stuff.
>
> SPOOL...system peripheral  off line.  Almost!
>
> 73,
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>
> On 06/12/2018 09:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
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> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Mike Markowski]

I don't reach as far back as bus & tag pairs, but I'm with you, Rich. 
:-)  TOPS-10, MCP, VMS, and the best - Unix!  A picture I shared here 
recently of a fun little retro computer recreation:


  http://udel.edu/~mm/pidp8i/

Running the original os/8.  Fun stuff.

SPOOL...system peripheral  off line.  Almost!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 06/12/2018 09:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
Google-fu.

I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a bunch
of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[kevinr]

special processing output online



On 06/12/2018 06:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
Google-fu.

I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a bunch
of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 13:17 Fred Jensen  wrote:


I've migrated through several OS worlds over the decades.  IBM's
universe had a significant amount of acronyms that required careful
tongue maneuvers to pronounce ... "DASD" was one of the easiest, as was
"ISAM" ["Incredibly Slow Access Method"].  EB-se-dick, a little harder.
Eventually, Unix became essential and I grep-ped and glob-bed, and
struggled with regular expressions about as much as I had to with
partial differential equations.  When I retired, I decided to learn how
to read Russian with all the free time I was going to have.  Russian was
much easier than Unix.  The free time never materialized.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 6/11/2018 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words,
don't use Linux.
I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom
language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not
deserve to be part of our culture.
Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages,
it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain
text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only
understood by Windows geeks.
I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums
saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language
is a thing unto itself.
Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process
difficulty, but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work
well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests
to enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results"
and be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding
the language.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[rich hurd WC3T]

Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
Google-fu.

I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a bunch
of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 13:17 Fred Jensen  wrote:

> I've migrated through several OS worlds over the decades.  IBM's
> universe had a significant amount of acronyms that required careful
> tongue maneuvers to pronounce ... "DASD" was one of the easiest, as was
> "ISAM" ["Incredibly Slow Access Method"].  EB-se-dick, a little harder.
> Eventually, Unix became essential and I grep-ped and glob-bed, and
> struggled with regular expressions about as much as I had to with
> partial differential equations.  When I retired, I decided to learn how
> to read Russian with all the free time I was going to have.  Russian was
> much easier than Unix.  The free time never materialized.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 6/11/2018 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> > If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words,
> > don't use Linux.
> > I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom
> > language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not
> > deserve to be part of our culture.
> > Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages,
> > it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
> > Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain
> > text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only
> > understood by Windows geeks.
> > I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums
> > saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
> > I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language
> > is a thing unto itself.
> > Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process
> > difficulty, but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
> > If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work
> > well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests
> > to enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results"
> > and be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding
> > the language.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Fred Jensen]

I've migrated through several OS worlds over the decades.  IBM's 
universe had a significant amount of acronyms that required careful 
tongue maneuvers to pronounce ... "DASD" was one of the easiest, as was 
"ISAM" ["Incredibly Slow Access Method"].  EB-se-dick, a little harder.  
Eventually, Unix became essential and I grep-ped and glob-bed, and 
struggled with regular expressions about as much as I had to with 
partial differential equations.  When I retired, I decided to learn how 
to read Russian with all the free time I was going to have.  Russian was 
much easier than Unix.  The free time never materialized.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 6/11/2018 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words, 
don't use Linux.
I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom 
language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not 
deserve to be part of our culture.
Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages, 
it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain 
text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only 
understood by Windows geeks.
I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums 
saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language 
is a thing unto itself.
Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process 
difficulty, but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work 
well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests 
to enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results" 
and be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding 
the language.


73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Edward R Cole]

Just as "Life is  too short for QRP", Life is too short for devoting 
my retirement years to learning Linux.


It seems these days more hams are professional computer geeks but 
total amateurs with understanding RF.  Evidence: the growing 
population of wireless noise floor.  Some day they will be looking 
for some old bent over RF engineer to rescue their mess (aka Y2K).


Me?  Just a bent former mw engineer (of course).  Keep the faith, Don!
My first computer was a Comadore-64. Then a job in 1982 with the 
original PC (8080) and DOS 1.1.  Had to self-teach myself to program 
(BASIC) so I could do my job.  I'm pretty good a coding but that 
bores the sh*t out me.


At a job interview with IBM many, many years ago, when asked what i 
was interested in doing, I answered microwave engineering ... I 
didn't get the job with IBM (LOL).


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[hawley, charles j jr]

Amusing image...

Chuck
KE9UW


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of Charlie T [pin...@erols.com]
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

And THAT reminds me of a time when Aunt Matilda just got her pension check
and someone stole her purse.
Her niece explained to the local cop saying:  "That guy just stole my aunt's
pay".

The cop replied, " OK lady, cut the 'pig-latin' and tell me how it
happened".

Any of y'all old enough to understand that?

73, Charlie k3ICH




-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:58 AM
To: Mark 
Cc: a45wg ; George Pasek ;
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

Reminds me of the kids in grade school who encrypted their conversations so
nobody else felt welcome. Trouble is, the rest of us learned more by
communicating freely.

Chuck
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Charlie T]

And THAT reminds me of a time when Aunt Matilda just got her pension check
and someone stole her purse.
Her niece explained to the local cop saying:  "That guy just stole my aunt's
pay".

The cop replied, " OK lady, cut the 'pig-latin' and tell me how it
happened".

Any of y'all old enough to understand that?

73, Charlie k3ICH




-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:58 AM
To: Mark 
Cc: a45wg ; George Pasek ;
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

Reminds me of the kids in grade school who encrypted their conversations so
nobody else felt welcome. Trouble is, the rest of us learned more by
communicating freely.

Chuck
KE9UW
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[hawley, charles j jr]

Reminds me of the kids in grade school who encrypted their conversations so 
nobody else felt welcome. Trouble is, the rest of us learned more by 
communicating freely.

Chuck
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 1:42 AM, Mark via Elecraft  
> wrote:
> 
> Re:   "if you don't understand the language, go away".
> 
> THANK YOU, DON!!!
> 
> I agree with your entire post.  I have actually asked for help in forums, and 
> the responders have made typos what they tell me to type, and then they brow 
> beat me because they made a mistake.  One of them actually said, "You should 
> have known what I meant to type!"  YIKES!  Not exactly a friendly community.
> 
> Every time I think about switching to Linux, it doesn't take me long to 
> reconsider.  Way too many hours are spent trying to make things work.  It 
> just isn't worth the trouble.
> 
> Mark
> KE6BB
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Paul Stoetzer]

Or release it as source so it can be compiled and packaged for all
distributions.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:09 AM, James Austin  wrote:
> Perhaps Elecraft could compile this app in both 32-bit and 64-bit flavors.
>
> Dealing with this kind of Linux stuff is not something most people should
> have to do.
>
> Jim/KA2RVO
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:26 AM a45wg  wrote:
>
>> KX3 Utils
>>
>> I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).
>>
>> I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type
>>
>> mkdir /elecraft
>> chdir /elecraft
>> wget
>> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
>> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
>> cd kx3util_1_16_6_25
>>
>> Now to see what this file is
>>
>> file file kx3util
>>
>> I get the following output….
>>
>> kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0,
>> stripped
>>
>> Ok  - it is a 32bit Image… So it will not run.
>>
>> Here’s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding
>> some needed libs
>>
>> dpkg --add-architecture i386
>> apt-get update
>> apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>>
>> Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links
>> (because I added the the i386 libs)
>>
>> ldd kx3util
>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d)
>> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
>> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
>> (0xf763)
>> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
>> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
>> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)
>>
>> Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.
>>
>> Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script
>> for this.
>>
>>
>> FROM ubuntu:16.04
>> MAINTAINER a4...@sy-edm.com
>>
>> #Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
>> #by adding i386 lib references
>> #It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
>> #
>> #Suggested Build:
>> #docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
>> #
>> #Suggested Run:
>> #docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
>> run apt-get update && \
>> apt-get install wget -y
>>
>> run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
>> apt-get update && \
>> mkdir /elecraft && \
>> chdir /elecraft && \
>> wget
>> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
>> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
>> apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Tim, A45WG => DU3/M0FGC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[James Austin]

Perhaps Elecraft could compile this app in both 32-bit and 64-bit flavors.

Dealing with this kind of Linux stuff is not something most people should
have to do.

Jim/KA2RVO

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:26 AM a45wg  wrote:

> KX3 Utils
>
> I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).
>
> I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type
>
> mkdir /elecraft
> chdir /elecraft
> wget
> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
> cd kx3util_1_16_6_25
>
> Now to see what this file is
>
> file file kx3util
>
> I get the following output….
>
> kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0,
> stripped
>
> Ok  - it is a 32bit Image… So it will not run.
>
> Here’s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding
> some needed libs
>
> dpkg --add-architecture i386
> apt-get update
> apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
> Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links
> (because I added the the i386 libs)
>
> ldd kx3util
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
> (0xf763)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)
>
> Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.
>
> Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script
> for this.
>
>
> FROM ubuntu:16.04
> MAINTAINER a4...@sy-edm.com
>
> #Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
> #by adding i386 lib references
> #It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
> #
> #Suggested Build:
> #docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
> #
> #Suggested Run:
> #docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
> run apt-get update && \
> apt-get install wget -y
>
> run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
> apt-get update && \
> mkdir /elecraft && \
> chdir /elecraft && \
> wget
> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
> apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Tim, A45WG => DU3/M0FGC
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[a45wg]

KX3 Utils

I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).

I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type

mkdir /elecraft 
chdir /elecraft
wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz  
tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
cd kx3util_1_16_6_25

Now to see what this file is 

file file kx3util

I get the following output….

kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically 
linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

Ok  - it is a 32bit Image… So it will not run. 

Here’s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding some 
needed libs

dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update 
apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386

Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links 
(because I added the the i386 libs)

ldd kx3util
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf763)
libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)

Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.

Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script for 
this.


FROM ubuntu:16.04
MAINTAINER a4...@sy-edm.com

#Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
#by adding i386 lib references
#It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
#
#Suggested Build:
#docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
#
#Suggested Run:
#docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
run apt-get update && \
apt-get install wget -y

run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
apt-get update && \
mkdir /elecraft && \
chdir /elecraft && \
wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386



Best regards

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Mark via Elecraft]

Re:   "if you don't understand the language, go away".

THANK YOU, DON!!!

I agree with your entire post.  I have actually asked for help in forums, and 
the responders have made typos what they tell me to type, and then they brow 
beat me because they made a mistake.  One of them actually said, "You should 
have known what I meant to type!"  YIKES!  Not exactly a friendly community.

Every time I think about switching to Linux, it doesn't take me long to 
reconsider.  Way too many hours are spent trying to make things work.  It just 
isn't worth the trouble.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Michael Eberle]

oops,  I meant sudo/sbin/ldconfig -v


On 6/12/2018 00:24, Michael Eberle wrote:

Go to a terminal window and issue the command: sudo /sbin/ldcongig v

This solved that problem for me.

73
Mike KI0HA

On 6/11/2018 21:54, George Pasek wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion Chris.  The response was:
./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.


So it looks like it is a library issue.



tnx

George


From: Chris Hallinan
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:35 AM
To: pasek...@umn.edu
Cc: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

If you open an terminal, change directory 'cd' to where the 
executable is, and try to execute it manually by typing "./execname" 
(don't forget the dot slash)


that will expose any error messages that are not displayed when you 
execute through a file manager by clicking on the icon.


It's probably a library issue.

Chris


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM George Pasek  wrote:

   I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now 
that I have
   Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit 
installed as
   dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of 
the KX3
   Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted 
it to a
   Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as 
well as a
   Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or 
attempt to
   launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or 
warnings.


   I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft
   Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, 
libstdc++.so.6

   and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries"
   requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit 
but comes
   with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible 
with 32 bit
   programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I 
saw, and a

   Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.

   I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right
   direction I'd really like to get it installed.

   tnx for the help.

   de George
   WD0AKZ
   dit - dit


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Andy Yates]

Looks like a "typo" to me,  : instead of L.

Andy W4KIL

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Michael Eberle]

Go to a terminal window and issue the command: sudo /sbin/ldcongig v

This solved that problem for me.

73
Mike KI0HA

On 6/11/2018 21:54, George Pasek wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion Chris.  The response was:
./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory.

So it looks like it is a library issue.



tnx

George


From: Chris Hallinan
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:35 AM
To: pasek...@umn.edu
Cc: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

If you open an terminal, change directory 'cd' to where the executable is, and try to 
execute it manually by typing "./execname" (don't forget the dot slash)

that will expose any error messages that are not displayed when you execute 
through a file manager by clicking on the icon.

It's probably a library issue.

Chris


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM George Pasek  wrote:

   I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I have
   Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as
   dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3
   Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a
   Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a
   Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to
   launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.

   I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft
   Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6
   and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries"
   requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes
   with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit
   programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and a
   Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.

   I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right
   direction I'd really like to get it installed.

   tnx for the help.

   de George
   WD0AKZ
   dit - dit


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Don Wilhelm]

If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words, 
don't use Linux.
I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom 
language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not deserve 
to be part of our culture.
Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages, 
it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain 
text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only understood 
by Windows geeks.
I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums 
saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language is 
a thing unto itself.
Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process difficulty, 
but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work 
well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests to 
enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results" and 
be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding the 
language.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/11/2018 11:00 PM, George Pasek wrote:
./exec said: ./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: 
libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Add Arch support
   sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
Followed by
    sudo apt-get update
    Hit:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
    Hit:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease
    Hit:3 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
    Hit:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu 
xenial InRelease

    Hit:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease
    Hit:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
    Ign:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia InRelease
    Hit:8 http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia Release
    Reading package lists... Done
   sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6Li386
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    E: Unable to locate package libstdc++6Li386
    E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libstdc++6Li386'

I think I'll just stick to Windows for now for Kx3 Utility.  Maybe in 
the future there will be a step-by-step install for us Linux dummies.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[George Pasek]

./exec said: ./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: 
libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Add Arch support
  sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
Followed by
   sudo apt-get update
   Hit:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
   Hit:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease
   Hit:3 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
   Hit:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu xenial 
InRelease

   Hit:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease
   Hit:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
   Ign:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia InRelease
   Hit:8 http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia Release
   Reading package lists... Done
  sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6Li386
   Reading package lists... Done
   Building dependency tree
   Reading state information... Done
   E: Unable to locate package libstdc++6Li386
   E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libstdc++6Li386'

I think I'll just stick to Windows for now for Kx3 Utility.  Maybe in the 
future there will be a step-by-step install for us Linux dummies.


tnx
George


-Original Message- 
From: a45wg

Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:31 AM
To: George Pasek
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

George,

First check the app is 32 bit

 * ldd - will probably fail
 * ./exec - probably says No File
 * File info exec show it is i386 file

Add Arch support

  sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386

Followed by

   sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6Li386

You may need the odd extrac package but you should be on your way (I hope 
with this)


Regards

Tim
A45WG



On Jun 11, 2018, at 6:26 PM, George Pasek  wrote:

I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I 
have Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed 
as dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3 
Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a 
Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a 
Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to 
launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.


I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft 
Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 
and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries" 
requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes 
with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit 
programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and 
a Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.


I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right 
direction I'd really like to get it installed.


tnx for the help.

de George
WD0AKZ
dit - dit


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[George Pasek]

Thanks for the suggestion Chris.  The response was:  
./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory. 

So it looks like it is a library issue.



tnx

George 


From: Chris Hallinan 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:35 AM
To: pasek...@umn.edu 
Cc: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

If you open an terminal, change directory 'cd' to where the executable is, and 
try to execute it manually by typing "./execname" (don't forget the dot slash)  

that will expose any error messages that are not displayed when you execute 
through a file manager by clicking on the icon.

It's probably a library issue.

Chris


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM George Pasek  wrote:

  I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I have 
  Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as 
  dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3 
  Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a 
  Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a 
  Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to 
  launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.

  I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft 
  Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 
  and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries" 
  requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes 
  with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit 
  programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and a 
  Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.

  I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right 
  direction I'd really like to get it installed.

  tnx for the help.

  de George
  WD0AKZ
  dit - dit


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Bill]

This, sadly, is the downfall of Linux. Nothing is easy! Linux mainstream 
versions such as Ubuntu and Mint are great systems - I run Mint dual 
boot with Win 10 here. That said, I use the Win 10 side for everything 
to do with my K-Line. I am spoiled, as are many others, by the ease of 
installation/operation of the software I use on a regular basis.


Further, some software I use is not replaceable under Linux. There is 
nothing up to the job available.


Wine is not the answer, as many Win programs will not properly run under 
Wine/Linux - if at all. Recently, there is also a problem with Wine 
itself - as being discussed on various Linux forums.


Personally, I would much prefer to run Linux 100% - for various reasons 
(mainly security). That said, until Linux is made much more friendly to 
the new user and the available software library drastically increases, 
it will never be more than a very minor player at the user level. Linux 
is, however, a major player in higher levels.


Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[Chris Hallinan]

If you open an terminal, change directory 'cd' to where the executable is,
and try to execute it manually by typing "./execname" (don't forget the dot
slash)

that will expose any error messages that are not displayed when you execute
through a file manager by clicking on the icon.

It's probably a library issue.

Chris


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM George Pasek  wrote:

> I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I
> have
> Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as
> dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3
> Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a
> Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a
> Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to
> launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.
>
> I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft
> Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6
> and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries"
> requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes
> with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit
> programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and
> a
> Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.
>
> I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right
> direction I'd really like to get it installed.
>
> tnx for the help.
>
> de George
> WD0AKZ
> dit - dit
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

[a45wg]

George,

First check the app is 32 bit

  * ldd - will probably fail
  * ./exec - probably says No File
  * File info exec show it is i386 file

Add Arch support

   sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386

Followed by

sudo apt-get update 
   sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6Li386

You may need the odd extrac package but you should be on your way (I hope with 
this)

Regards

Tim
A45WG


> On Jun 11, 2018, at 6:26 PM, George Pasek  wrote:
> 
> I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I have 
> Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as dual 
> boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3 Utility.  
> I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a Linux 
> folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a Kx3util 
> executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to launch it 
> via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.
> 
> I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft Utilities: 
>  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 and cURL. 
> 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries" requirements, and I 
> also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes with the 32 bit 
> libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit programs.  The 
> Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and a Google search on 
> Kx3util and Linux was no help.
> 
> I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right 
> direction I'd really like to get it installed.
> 
> tnx for the help.
> 
> de George
> WD0AKZ
> dit - dit
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Hi Knut,

Because it relates to problems using our utility software his posting is 
certainly pertinent here. We have a lot of users who run our Utility s/w under 
Linux and the solution to his problem will help others. Just because you are not 
interested in a posting does not mean its inappropriate and does not interest 
others on the list. (The delete key is a wonderful tool to quickly eliminate 
those you do not wish to read..)


Also, your posting below used the word 'period' at the end is what I referred to 
as rude and in essence orders them to take it elsewhere.


"Ths Linux gobbledygook has no place here, period."

It sounds like a parent disciplining a child. Neither a polite nor a respectful 
statement to another discussion list member. The last thing we want to do is to 
scare others away from asking questions or helping other on the list.


If you have concerns about a posting please feel free to contact the list 
moderator and do -not- post them to the list. The moderator is the only list 
participant allowed to make any decisions about the appropriateness of a posting 
and to contact a poster or post on the list about them.


Whew! - I guess people have been spending way too little time on the air and way 
too much time on the internet lately.. ;-)  I'm out of time on this topic - so 
let's end the discussion for now.


73,

Eric   WA6HHQ
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Elecraft..
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On 3/21/2018 5:22 PM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

I've responded in a direct email to Eric, but maybe it it did not reach the
group. so here it is:

Hi Eric,

With all respect, I was not by any means rude. How can it be rude to ask
somebody to take take their problems elsewhere where they belong? I do not
think that purely operating systems problems have any place on the reflector
and that goes for Windows, too. Had it it been just one or two postings, I
wouldn't have been annoyed, but this was just going on and on with Linux
jargon forever understood by precious few.

ab2tc - Knut


Please do not criticize or be rude to other's for their postings here.
That's
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In fact, since this is KX3 Utility related (for the Linux version) their
postings were certainly OK.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Chuck Milam, N9KY]

This seems quite relevant.  It literally has to do with getting
Elecraft-provided and supported software to function on an
Elecraft-supported computer operating system.

Given the software-driven nature of the Elecraft product line, you can
expect some discussion on software support issues on all of the various
computer operating systems supported by Elecraft.

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On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 6:47 PM, ab2tc  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can you please move this conversation to a Linux guru forum? Ths Linux
> gobbledygook has no place here, period.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> Just wanted to post a quick update. Since this problem started
> happening on 1 Mar 2018, I searched the archives and found the previous
> version of lib32-harfbuzz.  After installing that version of the
> package, now all the Elecraft linux utilities are working again on my
> system.
>
> https://archive.archlinux.org/repos/2018/02/28/multilib/os/x86_64/lib32
> -harfbuzz-1.7.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
>
> You can install this on Arch systems with the following command:
>
> pacman -U /path/to/lib32-harfbuzz-1.7.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
>
> If you do install this package, be sure to blacklist it from being
> upgraded by placing the following line /etc/pacman.conf:
>
> IgnorePkg   = lib32-harfbuzz
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Walter Underwood]

I run my ham software on Mac, not Linux, but I’d tag that post with “Nice 
Elmering”. It was specific and clear.

Sorry for the meta-discussion, but I rode herd on netnews discussion groups for 
5000+ engineers at HP for about a decade. I’ve seen more than my share of good 
and bad net behavior. 

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> On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:54 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Please do not criticize or be rude to other's for their postings here. That's 
> outside of Elecraft list guidelines.
> 
> In fact, since this is KX3 Utility related (for the Linux version) their 
> postings were certainly OK.
> 
> Eric
> moderator from time to time..
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> 
> On 3/21/2018 4:47 PM, ab2tc wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Can you please move this conversation to a Linux guru forum? Ths Linux
>> gobbledygook has no place here, period.
>> 
>> AB2TC - Knut
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[ab2tc]

Hi,

I've responded in a direct email to Eric, but maybe it it did not reach the
group. so here it is:

Hi Eric,

With all respect, I was not by any means rude. How can it be rude to ask
somebody to take take their problems elsewhere where they belong? I do not
think that purely operating systems problems have any place on the reflector
and that goes for Windows, too. Had it it been just one or two postings, I
wouldn't have been annoyed, but this was just going on and on with Linux
jargon forever understood by precious few.

ab2tc - Knut


Please do not criticize or be rude to other's for their postings here.
That's 
outside of Elecraft list guidelines.

In fact, since this is KX3 Utility related (for the Linux version) their 
postings were certainly OK.

Eric
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On 3/21/2018 4:47 PM, ab2tc wrote:





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Please do not criticize or be rude to other's for their postings here. That's 
outside of Elecraft list guidelines.


In fact, since this is KX3 Utility related (for the Linux version) their 
postings were certainly OK.


Eric
moderator from time to time..
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On 3/21/2018 4:47 PM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

Can you please move this conversation to a Linux guru forum? Ths Linux
gobbledygook has no place here, period.

AB2TC - Knut


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[ab2tc]

Hi,

Can you please move this conversation to a Linux guru forum? Ths Linux
gobbledygook has no place here, period.

AB2TC - Knut


Just wanted to post a quick update. Since this problem started
happening on 1 Mar 2018, I searched the archives and found the previous
version of lib32-harfbuzz.  After installing that version of the
package, now all the Elecraft linux utilities are working again on my
system.

https://archive.archlinux.org/repos/2018/02/28/multilib/os/x86_64/lib32
-harfbuzz-1.7.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

You can install this on Arch systems with the following command:

pacman -U /path/to/lib32-harfbuzz-1.7.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

If you do install this package, be sure to blacklist it from being
upgraded by placing the following line /etc/pacman.conf:

IgnorePkg   = lib32-harfbuzz






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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Robert Felmey]

Just wanted to post a quick update. Since this problem started
happening on 1 Mar 2018, I searched the archives and found the previous
version of lib32-harfbuzz.  After installing that version of the
package, now all the Elecraft linux utilities are working again on my
system.

https://archive.archlinux.org/repos/2018/02/28/multilib/os/x86_64/lib32
-harfbuzz-1.7.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

You can install this on Arch systems with the following command:

pacman -U /path/to/lib32-harfbuzz-1.7.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

If you do install this package, be sure to blacklist it from being
upgraded by placing the following line /etc/pacman.conf:

IgnorePkg   = lib32-harfbuzz

 
Rob 

On Sun, 2018-03-11 at 22:49 +0100, Thomas Kluge wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> 
> When I tried to start one of the utility programs today I got an
> error:
> 
> (k3util:2054): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_insert_internal:
> assertion 'hash_table != NULL' failed
> I think this is just a warning but it was followed by a segfault...
> 
> All my Elecraft utility programs were affected (k3util, p3util,
> kpautil).
> 
> I'm running Gentoo Linux which is up-to-date (most of the packets are
> the stable versions) and I was not sure when it worked last time...
> I've started to look a bit deeper into it and dmesg showed me first
> an
> issue with the libexpat and then with libpng. I've downgraded both
> packages to the following versions:
> expat: from version 2.2.1 to 2.1.0-r4
> libpng: from version 1.6.29 to 1.6.27
> 
> Now I still get the Glib-errors (warnings) in the console - but
> everything works again. It might be the same problem the KX3util...
> 
> Best regards
> Tom, DL3DTH
> 
> 
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2018, 08:41 -0800 schrieb Howard Stephenson:
> > Hi Rob,
> > 
> > From the Utility info on the web site:
> > 
> > X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 and
> > cURL.
> > 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries.
> > 
> > If you do a search of the reflector archives you should be able to
> > find a
> > list of the 32 bit libraries needed:
> >  > t>
> > 
> > If that is not helpful drop an e-mail to supp...@elecraft.com, they
> > have a
> > template with the needed libraries listed that they'll be happy to
> > send you.
> > 
> > 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[David Woolley]

That is much more serious than a warning.  I'd expect it to be 
immediately followed by a crash with signal 3 (abort), rather than 
signal 11 (segmentation fault).  However, if this isn't the standard 
assert routine, I would expect any attempt to actually use hash_table to 
produce a segmentation fault.



The standard assert routine is a macro which tests the condition and, if 
it fails, logs the fact then call abort, which never returns.



On 11/03/18 21:49, Thomas Kluge wrote:

(k3util:2054): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_insert_internal:
assertion 'hash_table != NULL' failed
I think this is just a warning but it was followed by a segfault...


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Thomas Kluge]

Hi Rob,

When I tried to start one of the utility programs today I got an error:

(k3util:2054): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_insert_internal:
assertion 'hash_table != NULL' failed
I think this is just a warning but it was followed by a segfault...

All my Elecraft utility programs were affected (k3util, p3util,
kpautil).

I'm running Gentoo Linux which is up-to-date (most of the packets are
the stable versions) and I was not sure when it worked last time...
I've started to look a bit deeper into it and dmesg showed me first an
issue with the libexpat and then with libpng. I've downgraded both
packages to the following versions:
expat: from version 2.2.1 to 2.1.0-r4
libpng: from version 1.6.29 to 1.6.27

Now I still get the Glib-errors (warnings) in the console - but
everything works again. It might be the same problem the KX3util...

Best regards
Tom, DL3DTH



Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2018, 08:41 -0800 schrieb Howard Stephenson:
> Hi Rob,
> 
> From the Utility info on the web site:
> 
> X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 and cURL.
> 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries.
> 
> If you do a search of the reflector archives you should be able to find a
> list of the 32 bit libraries needed:
> 
> 
> If that is not helpful drop an e-mail to supp...@elecraft.com, they have a
> template with the needed libraries listed that they'll be happy to send you.
> 
> 73,
> Howard Stephenson K6IA
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Howard Stephenson]

Hi Rob,

>From the Utility info on the web site:

X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 and cURL.
64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries.

If you do a search of the reflector archives you should be able to find a
list of the 32 bit libraries needed:


If that is not helpful drop an e-mail to supp...@elecraft.com, they have a
template with the needed libraries listed that they'll be happy to send you.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Chuck Milam, N9KY]

Whoa, a Linux question?  Excellent.

Looks the HarfBuzz shared libraries got updated (probably along with your
window manager of choice) and the kx3util needs to be rebuilt (relinked?
Not certain of the proper dev-speak here) to reference the newer
libraries.   (Sorry if I'm preaching to the choir.)

See if you can get the core file to drop (you may need to do a "ulimit -c
unlimited" to ensure you get one) and analyze it with gdb for more
information.

I wonder if you can do a workaround and keep the libharfbuzz library files
that kx3util is looking for installed (maybe in /usr/local or somewhere
else handy?)

I'd test this myself, but I confess I gave up tilting at the windmills
years ago and use Win 10 for ham radio applications.  I do keep my Linux
boxes around for network and vulnerability management.  Right tool for the
job, and all that.


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On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:06 AM, Robert Felmey  wrote:

> Looking in dmesg, I found this:
>
> [ 3817.471455] traps: kx3util[7873] general protection ip:f6771298
> sp:ffb24f08 error:0 in libharfbuzz.so.0.10705.0[f6742000+ae000]
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Robert Felmey  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Seems like there is a problem with the KX3 Utility running with the newer
> > linux kernels...  After updating I just started getting the following
> error
> > immediately after running:
> >
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> >
> > I've never had a problem before with the KX3 utility so not sure what is
> > different.  I've tried it with both the standard and lts kernel with the
> > same result.
> >
> > Linux arch 4.14.23-1-lts #1 SMP Wed Feb 28 17:50:05 CET 2018 x86_64
> > GNU/Linux
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Rob
> > KC2VIC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Segmentation Fault in Linux

[Robert Felmey]

Looking in dmesg, I found this:

[ 3817.471455] traps: kx3util[7873] general protection ip:f6771298
sp:ffb24f08 error:0 in libharfbuzz.so.0.10705.0[f6742000+ae000]

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Robert Felmey  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Seems like there is a problem with the KX3 Utility running with the newer
> linux kernels...  After updating I just started getting the following error
> immediately after running:
>
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>
> I've never had a problem before with the KX3 utility so not sure what is
> different.  I've tried it with both the standard and lts kernel with the
> same result.
>
> Linux arch 4.14.23-1-lts #1 SMP Wed Feb 28 17:50:05 CET 2018 x86_64
> GNU/Linux
>
>
> 73,
>
> Rob
> KC2VIC
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility - "KX3 is not responding"

[Dave B via Elecraft]

On 13/03/17 02:55, Jeff Hughes wrote:
> Thanks, gentlemen.
>
> Well, the good news is I got my KX3 updated with the latest MCU and DSP 
> firmware.  In the ~10 minutes or so it took me to compose my message 
> yesterday, the (different) computer I had connected to the radio just sat 
> there.  I guess it needed the rest? after sending off my plea for help, I 
> turned back to it and tried again.  Success!
>
> Since that computer (that successfully made the comm with my KX3) was the one 
> I updated to Apple?s latest OS (10.12 - Sierra), today I updated the OS on 
> one of the other Macs that had failed.  Upon plugging in the KX3 and lighting 
> up the KX3 Utility, it immediately connected to it.  I don?t recall seeing 
> anything in the Elecraft literature suggesting that 10.12 is required? but it 
> definitely seems to help.  I?ve now talked to the KX3 with two different 
> computers.  How reliable that connection might be, I suppose time will tell.
>
> FYI, Rich? Aye, my KX3 is new, fresh from the mothership.  If I encounter 
> this problem again I?ll try dropping the baud rate.
>
> And, yeah, guys? MacLoggerDX has most definitely not been up while I was 
> trying to use KX3 Utility.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> 73, Jeff K4YWZ

Hi.

This sounds more like the USB<>KX3 cable driver firing up as a Serial
port that the updater was not defaulting to.That can happen if there
is something else already connected to the computer that provides a
"Serial" port for some other reason, before you plug in the KX3 cable.

I've never seen the KX3 utility run on an Apple box, but on Windows and
Linux, you get a chance to find and specify the serial port to use.

73

Dave G0WBX.
(Also just recently updated a KX3 to the latest releases with no issues,
using Linux Lite on an Acer One Netbook.)
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility - "KX3 is not responding"

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeff,

Dropping the baud rate is not likely to solve the problem.
For the firmware download, KX3 Utility sets the KX3 baud rate to 38400 
automatically.


I suspect you had a driver issue in your computer that was corrected by 
the update.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/12/2017 4:41 PM, Jeff Hughes wrote:

FYI, Rich… Aye, my KX3 is new, fresh from the mothership.  If I encounter this 
problem again I’ll try dropping the baud rate.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility - "KX3 is not responding"

[rich hurd WC3T]

Jeff, if it's brand new, then I wouldn't fret about the baud rate.  I
bought a used station (KX3/PX3/KXPA100) and discovered that the
communication baud rate with the amp in the station was 9600; and the baud
rate standalone was 38400.   It took a couple macro commands from the
helpful folks here on the reflector to fix it but it sounds like your
problem, transient though it is, lies elsewhere.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Jeff Hughes 
wrote:

> Thanks, gentlemen.
>
> Well, the good news is I got my KX3 updated with the latest MCU and DSP
> firmware.  In the ~10 minutes or so it took me to compose my message
> yesterday, the (different) computer I had connected to the radio just sat
> there.  I guess it needed the rest… after sending off my plea for help, I
> turned back to it and tried again.  Success!
>
> Since that computer (that successfully made the comm with my KX3) was the
> one I updated to Apple’s latest OS (10.12 - Sierra), today I updated the OS
> on one of the other Macs that had failed.  Upon plugging in the KX3 and
> lighting up the KX3 Utility, it immediately connected to it.  I don’t
> recall seeing anything in the Elecraft literature suggesting that 10.12 is
> required… but it definitely seems to help.  I’ve now talked to the KX3 with
> two different computers.  How reliable that connection might be, I suppose
> time will tell.
>
> FYI, Rich… Aye, my KX3 is new, fresh from the mothership.  If I encounter
> this problem again I’ll try dropping the baud rate.
>
> And, yeah, guys… MacLoggerDX has most definitely not been up while I was
> trying to use KX3 Utility.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> 73, Jeff K4YWZ
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility - "KX3 is not responding"

[Jeff Hughes]

Thanks, gentlemen.

Well, the good news is I got my KX3 updated with the latest MCU and DSP 
firmware.  In the ~10 minutes or so it took me to compose my message yesterday, 
the (different) computer I had connected to the radio just sat there.  I guess 
it needed the rest… after sending off my plea for help, I turned back to it and 
tried again.  Success!

Since that computer (that successfully made the comm with my KX3) was the one I 
updated to Apple’s latest OS (10.12 - Sierra), today I updated the OS on one of 
the other Macs that had failed.  Upon plugging in the KX3 and lighting up the 
KX3 Utility, it immediately connected to it.  I don’t recall seeing anything in 
the Elecraft literature suggesting that 10.12 is required… but it definitely 
seems to help.  I’ve now talked to the KX3 with two different computers.  How 
reliable that connection might be, I suppose time will tell.

FYI, Rich… Aye, my KX3 is new, fresh from the mothership.  If I encounter this 
problem again I’ll try dropping the baud rate.

And, yeah, guys… MacLoggerDX has most definitely not been up while I was trying 
to use KX3 Utility.

Thanks again!

73, Jeff K4YWZ



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility - "KX3 is not responding"

[John Strandberg]

Exactly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
> That would only be true of MacLoggerDX were connected to the KX3.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 3:29 PM, John Strandberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Jeff,
>> 
>> Make sure you have quit MacLoggerDX when using the KX3 Utility.  If it is 
>> active, it will cause a communications conflict with the KX3 Utility.  Hope 
>> this helps.
>> 
>> 73 John W4DX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Jeff Hughes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> New KX3 owner here (crazy nice radio and I’m utterly smitten!).
>>> 
>>> Have just downloaded the KX3 Utility program and can’t get it to work.  It 
>>> consistently refuses to talk to the radio.  “KX3 is not responding” is what 
>>> I get.
>>> 
>>> I’m (mostly) on a Mac.  I’ve downloaded and installed the correct 
>>> USB-to-serial driver.  That shows up properly (as "usbserial-AL030VX”) 
>>> under the Port tab.  Interestingly, when I click the “Test Communications” 
>>> button I usually get “KX3 is not responding.”  Consistent with that, going 
>>> to the Firmware tab the MCU and DSP entries under “Installed in KX3” 
>>> usually show as “—“ because the program is not able to determine what 
>>> versions are currently in the radio.  But occasionally that “Test 
>>> Communications” button will return “KX3 MCU revision 02.38.  RS-232 speed 
>>> 38400 bps.”  And then going to the Firmware tab will show “02.38” as the 
>>> MCU version.  In those instances, at least briefly, the radio has 
>>> communicated with the program.
>>> 
>>> Alas, every attempt to update firmware has resulted in a “KX3 is not 
>>> responding” message under the Activity Log.  
>>> 
>>> I’m using the KXUSB cable that shipped with the radio.
>>> 
>>> I originally tried using the KX3 Utility on a Mac running 10.9.  Didn’t 
>>> work.
>>> 
>>> I then tried it on a Mac running 10.10.  Didn’t work.
>>> 
>>> I then tried it on a Windows machine, running Windows 7 (with the 
>>> appropriate Windows USB-to-serial driver).  Didn’t work.
>>> 
>>> Thinking maybe it was because of my slightly dated OS versions, I updated 
>>> one of my machines to Mac 10.12 - the most current version.  Still no joy.
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried different baud rates on the radio side (noting that there’s no 
>>> place I see within the KX3 Utility to set that rate).  No difference.
>>> 
>>> I’m fairly sure the KXUSB cable is okay, as I am running MacLoggerDX as my 
>>> logging program.  That program is talking to my KX3, using that very same 
>>> KXUSB cable (and the same “usbserial-AL030VX” usb-to-serial driver).
>>> 
>>> I’m pretty computer literate.  I don’t think it’s me.  I’ve turned on 
>>> “Advanced Mode” and “Verbose Logging” - not a lot of extra illumination.  
>>> And I’ll give the good folks at Elecraft a ring on Monday if I don’t have 
>>> an answer by then.  But in the event I’ve missed something (meaning, it is 
>>> me!) thought I’d first throw this out to you good folks.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> 73, Jeff K4YWZ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility - "KX3 is not responding"

[Phil Hystad]

That would only be true of MacLoggerDX were connected to the KX3.


> On Mar 11, 2017, at 3:29 PM, John Strandberg  wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> Make sure you have quit MacLoggerDX when using the KX3 Utility.  If it is 
> active, it will cause a communications conflict with the KX3 Utility.  Hope 
> this helps.
> 
> 73 John W4DX
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Jeff Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>> New KX3 owner here (crazy nice radio and I’m utterly smitten!).
>> 
>> Have just downloaded the KX3 Utility program and can’t get it to work.  It 
>> consistently refuses to talk to the radio.  “KX3 is not responding” is what 
>> I get.
>> 
>> I’m (mostly) on a Mac.  I’ve downloaded and installed the correct 
>> USB-to-serial driver.  That shows up properly (as "usbserial-AL030VX”) under 
>> the Port tab.  Interestingly, when I click the “Test Communications” button 
>> I usually get “KX3 is not responding.”  Consistent with that, going to the 
>> Firmware tab the MCU and DSP entries under “Installed in KX3” usually show 
>> as “—“ because the program is not able to determine what versions are 
>> currently in the radio.  But occasionally that “Test Communications” button 
>> will return “KX3 MCU revision 02.38.  RS-232 speed 38400 bps.”  And then 
>> going to the Firmware tab will show “02.38” as the MCU version.  In those 
>> instances, at least briefly, the radio has communicated with the program.
>> 
>> Alas, every attempt to update firmware has resulted in a “KX3 is not 
>> responding” message under the Activity Log.  
>> 
>> I’m using the KXUSB cable that shipped with the radio.
>> 
>> I originally tried using the KX3 Utility on a Mac running 10.9.  Didn’t work.
>> 
>> I then tried it on a Mac running 10.10.  Didn’t work.
>> 
>> I then tried it on a Windows machine, running Windows 7 (with the 
>> appropriate Windows USB-to-serial driver).  Didn’t work.
>> 
>> Thinking maybe it was because of my slightly dated OS versions, I updated 
>> one of my machines to Mac 10.12 - the most current version.  Still no joy.
>> 
>> I’ve tried different baud rates on the radio side (noting that there’s no 
>> place I see within the KX3 Utility to set that rate).  No difference.
>> 
>> I’m fairly sure the KXUSB cable is okay, as I am running MacLoggerDX as my 
>> logging program.  That program is talking to my KX3, using that very same 
>> KXUSB cable (and the same “usbserial-AL030VX” usb-to-serial driver).
>> 
>> I’m pretty computer literate.  I don’t think it’s me.  I’ve turned on 
>> “Advanced Mode” and “Verbose Logging” - not a lot of extra illumination.  
>> And I’ll give the good folks at Elecraft a ring on Monday if I don’t have an 
>> answer by then.  But in the event I’ve missed something (meaning, it is me!) 
>> thought I’d first throw this out to you good folks.
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> 73, Jeff K4YWZ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility - "KX3 is not responding"

[John Strandberg]

Jeff,

Make sure you have quit MacLoggerDX when using the KX3 Utility.  If it is 
active, it will cause a communications conflict with the KX3 Utility.  Hope 
this helps.

73 John W4DX

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 11, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Jeff Hughes  wrote:
> 
> New KX3 owner here (crazy nice radio and I’m utterly smitten!).
> 
> Have just downloaded the KX3 Utility program and can’t get it to work.  It 
> consistently refuses to talk to the radio.  “KX3 is not responding” is what I 
> get.
> 
> I’m (mostly) on a Mac.  I’ve downloaded and installed the correct 
> USB-to-serial driver.  That shows up properly (as "usbserial-AL030VX”) under 
> the Port tab.  Interestingly, when I click the “Test Communications” button I 
> usually get “KX3 is not responding.”  Consistent with that, going to the 
> Firmware tab the MCU and DSP entries under “Installed in KX3” usually show as 
> “—“ because the program is not able to determine what versions are currently 
> in the radio.  But occasionally that “Test Communications” button will return 
> “KX3 MCU revision 02.38.  RS-232 speed 38400 bps.”  And then going to the 
> Firmware tab will show “02.38” as the MCU version.  In those instances, at 
> least briefly, the radio has communicated with the program.
> 
> Alas, every attempt to update firmware has resulted in a “KX3 is not 
> responding” message under the Activity Log.  
> 
> I’m using the KXUSB cable that shipped with the radio.
> 
> I originally tried using the KX3 Utility on a Mac running 10.9.  Didn’t work.
> 
> I then tried it on a Mac running 10.10.  Didn’t work.
> 
> I then tried it on a Windows machine, running Windows 7 (with the appropriate 
> Windows USB-to-serial driver).  Didn’t work.
> 
> Thinking maybe it was because of my slightly dated OS versions, I updated one 
> of my machines to Mac 10.12 - the most current version.  Still no joy.
> 
> I’ve tried different baud rates on the radio side (noting that there’s no 
> place I see within the KX3 Utility to set that rate).  No difference.
> 
> I’m fairly sure the KXUSB cable is okay, as I am running MacLoggerDX as my 
> logging program.  That program is talking to my KX3, using that very same 
> KXUSB cable (and the same “usbserial-AL030VX” usb-to-serial driver).
> 
> I’m pretty computer literate.  I don’t think it’s me.  I’ve turned on 
> “Advanced Mode” and “Verbose Logging” - not a lot of extra illumination.  And 
> I’ll give the good folks at Elecraft a ring on Monday if I don’t have an 
> answer by then.  But in the event I’ve missed something (meaning, it is me!) 
> thought I’d first throw this out to you good folks.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> 73, Jeff K4YWZ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility - "KX3 is not responding"

[rich hurd WC3T]

You're a new KX3 owner. Are you the owner of a new KX3?Try dropping the
baud rate.

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Jeff Hughes 
wrote:

> New KX3 owner here (crazy nice radio and I’m utterly smitten!).
>
> Have just downloaded the KX3 Utility program and can’t get it to work.  It
> consistently refuses to talk to the radio.  “KX3 is not responding” is what
> I get.
>
> I’m (mostly) on a Mac.  I’ve downloaded and installed the correct
> USB-to-serial driver.  That shows up properly (as "usbserial-AL030VX”)
> under the Port tab.  Interestingly, when I click the “Test Communications”
> button I usually get “KX3 is not responding.”  Consistent with that, going
> to the Firmware tab the MCU and DSP entries under “Installed in KX3”
> usually show as “—“ because the program is not able to determine what
> versions are currently in the radio.  But occasionally that “Test
> Communications” button will return “KX3 MCU revision 02.38.  RS-232 speed
> 38400 bps.”  And then going to the Firmware tab will show “02.38” as the
> MCU version.  In those instances, at least briefly, the radio has
> communicated with the program.
>
> Alas, every attempt to update firmware has resulted in a “KX3 is not
> responding” message under the Activity Log.
>
> I’m using the KXUSB cable that shipped with the radio.
>
> I originally tried using the KX3 Utility on a Mac running 10.9.  Didn’t
> work.
>
> I then tried it on a Mac running 10.10.  Didn’t work.
>
> I then tried it on a Windows machine, running Windows 7 (with the
> appropriate Windows USB-to-serial driver).  Didn’t work.
>
> Thinking maybe it was because of my slightly dated OS versions, I updated
> one of my machines to Mac 10.12 - the most current version.  Still no joy.
>
> I’ve tried different baud rates on the radio side (noting that there’s no
> place I see within the KX3 Utility to set that rate).  No difference.
>
> I’m fairly sure the KXUSB cable is okay, as I am running MacLoggerDX as my
> logging program.  That program is talking to my KX3, using that very same
> KXUSB cable (and the same “usbserial-AL030VX” usb-to-serial driver).
>
> I’m pretty computer literate.  I don’t think it’s me.  I’ve turned on
> “Advanced Mode” and “Verbose Logging” - not a lot of extra illumination.
> And I’ll give the good folks at Elecraft a ring on Monday if I don’t have
> an answer by then.  But in the event I’ve missed something (meaning, it is
> me!) thought I’d first throw this out to you good folks.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> 73, Jeff K4YWZ
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Brendon Whateley]

That is a great idea Niel. The platform is getting used so much for all
manner of things that used to need a "real computer" that it is a shame
that it is not a first-class device.

We can have a bunch of people "in-line" so that Elecraft doesn't run the
risk of the guy leaving. A couple of NDAs, a trip to the HQ, and they could
have a volunteer team to maintain the Pi version for the joy of all.

- Brendon
KK6AYI

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Niel Skousen 
wrote:

> On the other hand,  if one of us (well, not me - not technically
> qualified) were to contact Elecraft and volunteer ( in the OpenSource
> mindset) to execute the appropriate agreements for access to the code
> line.  Then to be the maintainer of the ARM distribution, with a focus on
> the RPi family, Elecraft might well agree to support the distribution.
> That would satisfy the company protection of product line integrity, and
> given a knowledgeable package maintainer, a confidence in the finished
> product.
>
> Niel
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
> > Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the
> participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine Elecraft
> tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems reported from
> multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.
> >
> > I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my
> radio."  The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the
> things I can configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does nothing
> unless I tell it to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Fred K6DGW
> > - Sparks NV DM09dn
> >
> > - Northern California Contest Club
> > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
> > - www.cqp.org
> >
> > On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> >> Bill,
> >>
> >> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
> >> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
> >> 'invention'.
> >> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
> >> platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
> >> instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
> >> installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
> >> it happens.
> >>
> >> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
> >> smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Nr4c]

Ok. I missed the big NOT. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
> participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine Elecraft 
> tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems reported from 
> multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.
> 
> I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my radio."  
> The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the things I can 
> configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does nothing unless I tell it 
> to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Sparks NV DM09dn
> 
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
> - www.cqp.org
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
>> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
>> 'invention'.
>> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
>> platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
>> instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
>> installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
>> it happens.
>> 
>> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
>> smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Nr4c]

Right. Duh!!!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
> 'invention'.
> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS platforms 
> and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for instance needing 
> Elecraft support to help them with downloading and installing the Utility 
> programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, it happens.
> 
> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer smart" 
> and not conversant with computer lingo.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
>>> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
>>> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join 
>>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make 
>>> a contribution.
>>> 
>>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
>>> with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
>>> running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in 
>>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
>>> 
>>> Doug -- K0DXV
>>> 
 On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
 Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
 dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as 
 I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
 because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. 
 Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, 
 although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for 
 the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to 
 my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
 
 Thanks for everyone’s input.
 
 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
 Folsom, CA
 
 
> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>  wroteBill,
> 
> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
> 'invention'.
> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS platforms 
> and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for instance needing 
> Elecraft support to help them with downloading and installing the Utility 
> programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, it happens.
> 
> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer smart" 
> and not conversant with computer lingo.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
>>> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
>>> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join 
>>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make 
>>> a contribution.
>>> 
>>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
>>> with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
>>> running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in 
>>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
>>> 
>>> Doug -- K0DXV
>>> 
 On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
 Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
 dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as 
 I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
 because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. 
 Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, 
 although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for 
 the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to 
 my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
 
 Thanks for everyone’s input.
 
 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
 Folsom, CA
 
 
> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>  wrote:
> 
> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to 
> run it on the ARM archite

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Niel Skousen]

On the other hand,  if one of us (well, not me - not technically qualified) 
were to contact Elecraft and volunteer ( in the OpenSource mindset) to execute 
the appropriate agreements for access to the code line.  Then to be the 
maintainer of the ARM distribution, with a focus on the RPi family, Elecraft 
might well agree to support the distribution.  That would satisfy the company 
protection of product line integrity, and given a knowledgeable package 
maintainer, a confidence in the finished product.

Niel


On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
> participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine Elecraft 
> tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems reported from 
> multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.
> 
> I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my radio."  
> The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the things I can 
> configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does nothing unless I tell it 
> to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Sparks NV DM09dn
> 
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
>> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
>> 'invention'.
>> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
>> platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
>> instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
>> installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
>> it happens.
>> 
>> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
>> smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Fred Jensen]

Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine 
Elecraft tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems 
reported from multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.


I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my 
radio."  The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the 
things I can configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does 
nothing unless I tell it to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Sparks NV DM09dn

- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
- www.cqp.org

On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bill,

I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
'invention'.
Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
it happens.

With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Don Wilhelm]

Bill,

I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
'invention'.
Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS 
platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for 
instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and 
installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, 
it happens.


With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer 
smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:

If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:

I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra work 
involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in and 
manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
contribution.

The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running on 
a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.

Doug -- K0DXV


On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee capital.

Here's hoping for the future, though.

Tim
KG1GEM

PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the list 
originally.


On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides 
any additional

influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra work 
involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in and 
manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
contribution.

The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running on 
a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.

Doug -- K0DXV


On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
another platform. And a small

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Fred Jensen]

73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 12/16/2016 1:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:

If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Nr4c]

If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
> 
> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in 
> and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
> contribution.
> 
> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
> each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running 
> on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
> platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
> 
> Doug -- K0DXV
> 
>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I 
>> went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. Once 
>> the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, although 
>> sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for the utility, 
>> so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to my iMac and 
>> run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
>> 
>> Thanks for everyone’s input.
>> 
>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>> 
>> 
>>> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run 
>>> it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is 
>>> for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
>>> mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool 
>>> chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent 
>>> fixing other problems.
>>> 
>>> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
>>> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required 
>>> for another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee 
>>> capital.
>>> 
>>> Here's hoping for the future, though.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> KG1GEM
>>> 
>>> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the 
>>> list originally.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice 
>>> provides any additional 
> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in 
> and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
> contribution.
> 
> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
> each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running 
> on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
> platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
> 
> Doug -- K0DXV
> 
>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I 
>> went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. Once 
>> the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, although 
>> sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for the utility, 
>> so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to my iMac and 
>> run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
>> 
>> Thanks for everyone’s input.
>> 
>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>> 
>> 
>>> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run 
>>> it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is 
>>> for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
>>> mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool 
>>> chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent 
>>> fixing other problems.
>>> 
>>> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
>>> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required 
>>> for another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee 
>>> capital.
>>> 
>>> Here's hoping for the future, though.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> KG1GEM
>>> 
>>> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the 
>>> list originally.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:
 I’ve been using m

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Doug Person]

I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is 
extra work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers 
could join in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be 
happy to make a contribution.


The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances 
in mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very 
bright.


Doug -- K0DXV

On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:

Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee capital.

Here's hoping for the future, though.

Tim
KG1GEM

PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the list 
originally.


On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:

I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, using 
CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 and 
JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can get the 
full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft 
web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” executable, nothing 
happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? I am using the Raspian 
Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Don Wilhelm]

James,

Having been a professional woodworker for 10 years I disagree.  The 
difference between a woodworker and a carpenter is 1/64 of an inch.  1/8 
of an inch is sloppy measurement and while that is sufficient for 
carpenters doing framing, it is not sufficient for finish carpenters and 
woodworkers who do precision work.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/13/2016 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:


“What’s the difference between a carpenter and a woodworker? About 1/8 inch!"

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[James Bennett]

Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went 
through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of 
that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. Once the 
dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, although 
sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for the utility, so 
I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to my iMac and run the 
Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA


> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>  wrote:
> 
> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
> on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
> Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
> mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool 
> chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent 
> fixing other problems.
> 
> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
> another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee capital.
> 
> Here's hoping for the future, though.
> 
> Tim
> KG1GEM
> 
> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the 
> list originally.
> 
> 
> On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, 
>> using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 
>> and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can 
>> get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from 
>> the Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” 
>> executable, nothing happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? 
>> I am using the Raspian Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Tim Elwell]

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to 
run it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do 
that is for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to 
recall being mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time 
setting up the tool chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It 
would be time best spent fixing other problems.


I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but 
do understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support 
required for another platform. And a small company has to watch their 
employee capital.


Here's hoping for the future, though.

Tim
KG1GEM

PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not 
the list originally.



On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:
I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some 
time, using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X 
rc3 for JT9 and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into 
the KX3 so I can get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d 
the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click 
on the “kx3util” executable, nothing happens. What is the secret 
procedure to get this going? I am using the Raspian Jessie (Debian 
Linux) OS on this RPi.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Phil Wheeler]

Jim,

The Elecraft site 
http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm


*Minimum Operating System Requirements for 
Elecraft Utilities:*


*Microsoft Windows*: XP Service Pack 3 or later, 
including Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1.


*Apple Mac:* OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) or later

*X86-based Linux:* GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, 
libstdc++.so.6 and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 
32-bit compatibility libraries.



My thinking is that your RPi3 is not running 
X86-based Linux -- and/or 


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/13/16 4:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:

I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, using 
CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 and 
JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can get the 
full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft 
web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” executable, nothing 
happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? I am using the Raspian 
Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Niel Skousen]

Duh Mint...

Niel

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> On Dec 13, 2016, at 18:15, Niel Skousen  wrote:
> 
> I've been using Mike t on a Dell e4200.  I seem to recall is wa the 32bit 
> compatibility lib's.  Elecraft's SW is built ( if I recall) as 32bit apps.  
> 
> Will ping you seperately offline for some questions.  
> 
> Thanks
> 
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>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 17:53, James Bennett  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, 
>> using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 
>> and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can 
>> get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from 
>> the Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” 
>> executable, nothing happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? 
>> I am using the Raspian Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.
>> 
>> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Niel Skousen]

I've been using Mike t on a Dell e4200.  I seem to recall is wa the 32bit 
compatibility lib's.  Elecraft's SW is built ( if I recall) as 32bit apps.  

Will ping you seperately offline for some questions.  

Thanks

Niel
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> On Dec 13, 2016, at 17:53, James Bennett  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, 
> using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 
> and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can 
> get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from the 
> Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” executable, 
> nothing happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? I am using 
> the Raspian Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.
> 
> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility and RumlogNG

[a45wg]

Working fine for me

 Sierra
 Mac-Mini
  
Regards

 Tim - A45WG


> On Oct 10, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Peter LaBissoniere  wrote:
> 
> Slightly OT but I have a couple of issues after upgrading to Sierra that 
> might be interesting for Mac users. I now get garbage on transmit, on the USB 
> interface when connected to an Anker USB3 hub. Not an issue if connected 
> directly to the Mac Mini. Another issue is that the current settings now 
> sometimes change on my KAT500 when focus is changed from the KAT500 Utility 
> to another window or vice versa. I know because I hear relays activated in 
> the KAT500 as soon as I click on a different window. It doesn't re-tune but 
> seems to select a different memorized setting.
> 
> 73 Pete KW9E
> 
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>> On Oct 9, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Bill Frantz > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the fix Fred. I've been thinking of upgrading, but software is 
>> like wine, better aged a bit after making it. HIHI
>> 
>> Please let us know if you have any other issues with Sierra.
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>>> On 10/9/16 at 3:00 PM, f...@fmeco.com (Fred Moore) wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hate to reply to my own post.. but this issue is going on on MacBook Pro
>>> (Retina 2010-2011) the fix is to reset the SMC controller..   (Shift,
>>> CTRL, CMD + Power) hold down till the system resets..  everything seems
>>> ok now..  hope this helps someone..
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10/9/16 5:50 PM, Fred Moore wrote:
 Has anyone had any problem getting these programs to connect after
 upgrading OSX to Sierra?  I can't seem to get them to connect, upgraded
 last week to sierra, and today was the first time I tried it.. Regards.. 
 Fred
 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility and RumlogNG

[Peter LaBissoniere]

Slightly OT but I have a couple of issues after upgrading to Sierra that might 
be interesting for Mac users. I now get garbage on transmit, on the USB 
interface when connected to an Anker USB3 hub. Not an issue if connected 
directly to the Mac Mini. Another issue is that the current settings now 
sometimes change on my KAT500 when focus is changed from the KAT500 Utility to 
another window or vice versa. I know because I hear relays activated in the 
KAT500 as soon as I click on a different window. It doesn't re-tune but seems 
to select a different memorized setting.

73 Pete KW9E

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the fix Fred. I've been thinking of upgrading, but software is 
> like wine, better aged a bit after making it. HIHI
> 
> Please let us know if you have any other issues with Sierra.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
>> On 10/9/16 at 3:00 PM, f...@fmeco.com (Fred Moore) wrote:
>> 
>> Hate to reply to my own post.. but this issue is going on on MacBook Pro
>> (Retina 2010-2011) the fix is to reset the SMC controller..   (Shift,
>> CTRL, CMD + Power) hold down till the system resets..  everything seems
>> ok now..  hope this helps someone..
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/9/16 5:50 PM, Fred Moore wrote:
>>> Has anyone had any problem getting these programs to connect after
>>> upgrading OSX to Sierra?  I can't seem to get them to connect, upgraded
>>> last week to sierra, and today was the first time I tried it.. Regards.. 
>>> Fred
>>> 
>> 
> 
> ---
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility and RumlogNG

[Bill Frantz]

Thanks for the fix Fred. I've been thinking of upgrading, but 
software is like wine, better aged a bit after making it. HIHI


Please let us know if you have any other issues with Sierra.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/9/16 at 3:00 PM, f...@fmeco.com (Fred Moore) wrote:


Hate to reply to my own post.. but this issue is going on on MacBook Pro
(Retina 2010-2011) the fix is to reset the SMC controller..   (Shift,
CTRL, CMD + Power) hold down till the system resets..  everything seems
ok now..  hope this helps someone..


On 10/9/16 5:50 PM, Fred Moore wrote:

Has anyone had any problem getting these programs to connect after
upgrading OSX to Sierra?  I can't seem to get them to connect, upgraded
last week to sierra, and today was the first time I tried it.. 
Regards.. Fred






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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility and RumlogNG

[Fred Moore]

Hate to reply to my own post.. but this issue is going on on MacBook Pro
(Retina 2010-2011) the fix is to reset the SMC controller..   (Shift,
CTRL, CMD + Power) hold down till the system resets..  everything seems
ok now..  hope this helps someone..


On 10/9/16 5:50 PM, Fred Moore wrote:
> Has anyone had any problem getting these programs to connect after
> upgrading OSX to Sierra?  I can't seem to get them to connect, upgraded
> last week to sierra, and today was the first time I tried it.. 
> Regards.. Fred
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

[Dave B via Elecraft]

All I did in the past, was to:-

Create a new folder for it from my home folder.

Extract the contents of the downloaded archive to that folder.

Create a desktop launcher pointing to the executable.

Install curl (and it's dependancies.)  Needed to download firmware from 
Elecraft's site.


$ sudo apt-get install curl


I was already a member of the "dialout" group, but you might need to 
join that group


$ sudo adduser  dialout   (Of course, sudo will ask for 
your password.)



Then log out, and log back in again.

After all that, it "just worked."   Even with any of my generic 
USB<>Serial leads and homebrew cable, or the Elecraft USB<>KX3 lead.



The above worked well on Lubuntu, and Mint.   Both derivatives of Ubuntu.


73.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

[Brian Waterworth]

Tim's library install didn't work for me.  Might be because I am on Ubuntu
16.04.

Do everything Tim suggested up until you have to install libraries.  Then
try the following.  This is what I used for Ubuntu 16.04, 14.04, and
12.04:

sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
libgtk2.0-0:i386

./kx3util

I just tried this on a new install of a 64bit Ubuntu 16.04 image and it
worked.  The KX3Util started a little slowly the first time, but then after
that it was within a second or two.

If you have a px3, you don't need to reinstall the libraries, just follow
Tim's directions to download the PX3 tar file and repeat the steps minus
the library install.  Then type:
./px3util

You can always go to the Elecraft site and download using your browser too.

regards,
Brian
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:27 PM, a45wg  wrote:

> In case anyone else is trying to do this - this general procedure should
> work. I am starting off with a fairly basic Ubuntu 14 - 64 bit machine
>
>
> General install for Ubuntu 14 - 64 bit
>
> cd
> mkdir kx3
> cd kx3
> wget
> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_14_4_11.tgz
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_14_4_11.tgz
> cd kx3util_1_14_4_11
>
> Add some 32 bit packages
>
> sudo apt-get install  lib32z1, lib32stdc++6, install libgtk:386
>
> And now it should work
>
> ./kx3util
>
>
> 73s de Tim - A45WG
>
>
>
>
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> > Untar it in your hormedir, run the kx3util script?
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

[a45wg]

In case anyone else is trying to do this - this general procedure should work. 
I am starting off with a fairly basic Ubuntu 14 - 64 bit machine


General install for Ubuntu 14 - 64 bit

cd
mkdir kx3
cd kx3
wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_14_4_11.tgz
tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_14_4_11.tgz
cd kx3util_1_14_4_11

Add some 32 bit packages

sudo apt-get install  lib32z1, lib32stdc++6, install libgtk:386

And now it should work

./kx3util


73s de Tim - A45WG




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> Untar it in your hormedir, run the kx3util script?
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

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Ubuntu 32 or 64 bit (the latter is a little more difficult) ?


> On 6 Jun 2016, at 18:09, Aaron K5ATG  wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

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Untar it in your hormedir, run the kx3util script?

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility Question

[James Bennett]

Hi Dick,

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, not what I was hoping to hear. Maybe 
that’s something that could be implemented in a future version. There are 
probably a lot of folks who take their rigs out in the field and would like to 
preserve their tuner’s home antenna settings.

73, Jim


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>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, no. The KX3 Utility saves only what is lost in a Parameter 
> Initialization (EEINT).  I didn't list ATU memories in the "what is not 
> saved", but I'll change the K3 Utility help text.
> 
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James 
> Bennett
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 10:42 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 utility Question
> 
> Have a question about the KX3 utility. I recently upgraded my antenna system 
> feedline, going from 450 ohm line to 600. Afterwards, I cleared the KX3 
> internal tuner’s memories and then re-trained it on every band at the proper 
> segments.
> 
> Now I want to use the KX3 in a portable operation with a different antenna 
> for a while. Are my memorized antenna settings saved with the configuration? 
> If so, I can back up the config, go do my portable operating with a different 
> antenna, and then come back home and restore the configuration. Yes…..??
> 
> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility Question

[Barry LaZar]

Jim,
I wouldn't worry about it. Just push the tune button on the radio 
and let the KX3 sort it out and remember. I do so many antenna things 
around here and never depend on the memories. In fact I have a real 
problem going from 28.3 MHz. to 28.6 Mhz. but the radio keeps up with 
it. It takes just a moment for it to catch up, but it does.



73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 3/8/2015 1:42 PM, James Bennett wrote:

Have a question about the KX3 utility. I recently upgraded my antenna system 
feedline, going from 450 ohm line to 600. Afterwards, I cleared the KX3 
internal tuner’s memories and then re-trained it on every band at the proper 
segments.

Now I want to use the KX3 in a portable operation with a different antenna for 
a while. Are my memorized antenna settings saved with the configuration? If so, 
I can back up the config, go do my portable operating with a different antenna, 
and then come back home and restore the configuration. Yes…..??

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility Question

[Dick Dievendorff]

Sorry, no. The KX3 Utility saves only what is lost in a Parameter 
Initialization (EEINT).  I didn't list ATU memories in the "what is not saved", 
but I'll change the K3 Utility help text.

73 de Dick, K6KR



-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James 
Bennett
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 10:42 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 utility Question

Have a question about the KX3 utility. I recently upgraded my antenna system 
feedline, going from 450 ohm line to 600. Afterwards, I cleared the KX3 
internal tuner’s memories and then re-trained it on every band at the proper 
segments.

Now I want to use the KX3 in a portable operation with a different antenna for 
a while. Are my memorized antenna settings saved with the configuration? If so, 
I can back up the config, go do my portable operating with a different antenna, 
and then come back home and restore the configuration. Yes…..??

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

[Dick Dievendorff]

It saves everything that is affected by Parameter Initialization (EEINIT).

See KX3 Utility Help, Tab Pages, Configuration, "What is saved" and "what is
not saved".

73 de Dick, K6KR

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John
Lally
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 1:46 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility

What configuration parameters does the KX3 Utility save  Does it save the
KXFL3 configuration numbers, also, does it save the temperature compensation
data?

 

Thanks,

 

John Lally

 

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