RE: [eug-lug]HELLO!
hi again! i tried to look in my setups for the chipset. the whole thing is a CMOS setup, by Award software. i looked under chipset features but didnt' see a brand name or anything. If you go to the Other OS you can list the properties. That should tell you what model it is. if i need to get a modem what should i get? If you don't mind an extra box, an external modem is much easier to setup and troubleshoot. I have a number of USR 56k Externals that I have had nothing but good luck with. Of course now that I have broadband, I don't mess with modems anymore thanks! ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes
Don't forget to wipe out settings from your window manager (.sawfish, .metacity, etc). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:02 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes Well, actually, wouldn't it be better to just find where Gnome keeps the settings that we can't find and fix that? Larry Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: you might want to check out GARNOME http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/ It's a set of build scripts used by (among others ) the gnome UI usability people the lnx-bbc people are quite fond of it. I've had my own adventures with gnome lately which showed up some limitations of the ports system at least when it comes to gnome (think of the worst hosage you can get with recursive make and unresolved dependencies and then throw in things like libintl.so.4 not being recognised :P ) On the other hand gnome has been my home desktop for a while now. On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: I'd like to know this too. My laptop says it can't find a Mozilla icon and I can't find it either nor can I find any reference to it in any of the Gnome config files I can find. Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Any gnome users here? Now that Debian has Gnome 2.4 I wanted to give it a try. But apparently I've got old gnome 1.4 stuff and also older gnome 2.4 stuff laying around. I tried rm -rf'ing my ~/.gnome* directories. But when I startx and launch gnome, it still remembers some of my old settings. I'd like to start fresh and see what the default is and tweak from there. Any clues on how to do that? Thanks, Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug you capturing runaway bulldozers:once is chance, twice coincidence, ... ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/ P.O. Box 40814 Eugene, OR 97404 Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SATA Blues
Bob, Since 3.4 isn't official yet, I am assuing that this is the OverClockix version? Right? Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Miller Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:56 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]SATA Blues toman wrote: Have you tried a recent KNOPPIX release? The ISO for the first V3.4 release is here... http://chezgeek.euglug.net/~kbob/knoppix/ Nope, just 3.3, which I already have. I'll look at the KNOPPIX site. Sorry, I had to remove it because people downloading it from all over the world were using too much bandwidth. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SATA Blues
Ok, since I brought it up, here it is. http://overclockix.octeams.com/ I just started d/l it today. At present there is about 10 mins left, so I don't personally have anything to report, but if you are dieing to see 3.4 this might be worth a look. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Miller Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:44 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]SATA Blues Grigsby, Garl wrote: Since 3.4 isn't official yet, I am assuing that this is the OverClockix version? Right? It was the German-only version distributed in C't magazine last month. I haven't heard it called OverClockix, but what do I know? (-: -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]beagle.j procmail recipe
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Hudson Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:12 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]beagle.j procmail recipe What's bagle.j? On 20040303.1252, Larry Price said ... #bagle.j :0 B * SEVMTDMyLmRsbABz***aGx3YXBpLmRsbAB1 /dev/null remove the *** in the middle of the string ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]data munging
There's a program called 'wtf' ...
Really, wtf does wtf do?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/grigsby $ man wtf
NAME
wtf - translates acronyms and filename suffixes for you.
wtfindex - builds string file indexes for wtf.
wtfdump - lists the contents of a wtf database.
SYNOPSIS
wtf [-a] [is] pattern
wtfindex filename
wtfdump filename
DESCRIPTION
The wtf program looks-up the definition of a term. It supports a number
of definition sources. In this version they are an acronyms database and
a filename suffixes database.
snip
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/grigsby $ wtf is wtf
wtf: {what,where,who,why} the f**k (Edited for those with delicate sensibilities)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/grigsby $ wtf is afaik
afaik: as far as I know
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RE: [eug-lug]autolearn=yes?
Wanted email = Ham Unwanted email = spam The default threshold for autolearn is = 12 for spam, = .1 for ham. You can lower it in your user configuration file: ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs Ham? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner
If you know exactly what you want, PC Parts Xpress is OK. They know nothing of linux, or at least they didn't use to, but most of their prices are OK. Their website lists their prices and how many they have in stock. Saves you the time of running over there to find out they are out. http://www.pcpartsxpress.com/home.asp Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hal Pomeranz Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner So what's the best store in the area for finding random computer-related cabling, drives, enclosures, motherboards, PCI cards, memory, software, etc. when I'm in a hurry and don't want to wait for an on-line order to ship? I could give you a map of such places in the Bay Area, but I have no idea when it comes to Eugene. Help me Obi-Wan EUG-LUG! You're my only hope! -- Hal Pomeranz, Founder/CEO Deer Run Associates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Connectivity and Security, Systems Management, Training ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCO
Ok, What OS are they running? Do they have ncftp already on the system? Do they have a compiler? Need More Input. #5's Alive. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:00 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO Creating a cronjob is what I'm hoping for. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Bob, The first question would be what SCO OS is their server running? Do they have a compiler running on it? If so then the easiest thing to do would be to use NcFTP and the NcFTPPut command line tool. It is very easy to use from a command line. In fact there should be no scripting needed. All you would have to do would be to create a cronjob entry. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:47 AM To: Eugene Linux Users Group Subject: [eug-lug]SCO Hi, I have a client with a SCO (don't blame me. I inherited it) server. I've been commissioned to write a script to FTP a file to am NT server so it can be backed up. Can I pay one of you guys to do this for me? I'm guessing it will be about an hour worth of work. It needs to be in place by the end of January. Thanks Bob Crandell -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCO
This doesn't happen to be a veterinary clinic, does it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:29 AM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO I going by there today to see what I can see. I should come back with more input. Ok, #5, Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. Soap. What are you ding? Oh, singing about 8 bars. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ok, What OS are they running? Do they have ncftp already on the system? Do they have a compiler? Need More Input. #5's Alive. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:00 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO Creating a cronjob is what I'm hoping for. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Bob, The first question would be what SCO OS is their server running? Do they have a compiler running on it? If so then the easiest thing to do would be to use NcFTP and the NcFTPPut command line tool. It is very easy to use from a command line. In fact there should be no scripting needed. All you would have to do would be to create a cronjob entry. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:47 AM To: Eugene Linux Users Group Subject: [eug-lug]SCO Hi, I have a client with a SCO (don't blame me. I inherited it) server. I've been commissioned to write a script to FTP a file to am NT server so it can be backed up. Can I pay one of you guys to do this for me? I'm guessing it will be about an hour worth of work. It needs to be in place by the end of January. Thanks Bob Crandell -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCO
When you say v5, I am assuming you mean SCO OpenServer v5. 1) get ncftp for OpenServer: ftp://ftp2.sco.com/pub/skunkware/osr5/vols/ncftp-3.1.2-VOLS.tar 2) Install it: To install: download, extract the tar archive into an empty directory and use the SCO Software Manager (custom) to install from media images. Note that many of the graphical X clients depend on the Graphics Libraries package which must be installed first. (ncftp is not graphical so ignore the last bit) 3) verify that you can use ncftp: ncftp -u username ftpserver If it connects move on. 4) Here is the cronjob: 0 0 * * * /pathto/ncftpput -u myusername -p mypassword remotehost /my/remote/directory/ my_file_2_transfer.tar.gz 21 /dev/null 5) Make sure that the cron file is readable only by owning user. Let me know if you have any questions, Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 4:08 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO They are running SCO v5. They don't have ncftp. I forgot to look for a compiler. ftp and tftp are available. I was amazed at how similer SCO was to Linux. I wonder where they got the code? I guess all I need now is a script I can call from crontab to send some files to a destination. Thanks Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ok, What OS are they running? Do they have ncftp already on the system? Do they have a compiler? Need More Input. #5's Alive. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:00 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]SCO Creating a cronjob is what I'm hoping for. Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Bob, The first question would be what SCO OS is their server running? Do they have a compiler running on it? If so then the easiest thing to do would be to use NcFTP and the NcFTPPut command line tool. It is very easy to use from a command line. In fact there should be no scripting needed. All you would have to do would be to create a cronjob entry. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:47 AM To: Eugene Linux Users Group Subject: [eug-lug]SCO Hi, I have a client with a SCO (don't blame me. I inherited it) server. I've been commissioned to write a script to FTP a file to am NT server so it can be backed up. Can I pay one of you guys to do this for me? I'm guessing it will be about an hour worth of work. It needs to be in place by the end of January. Thanks Bob Crandell -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]informaiton on ps -ef
Does anyboyd know where I can find out what the C colum in a `ps -ef` means? I looked through the man page, but it didn't jump out at me. The reason I am asking is that I have a backup process the will run for a while and then crashes with no error. The only thing I have noticed is that just before it crashes the C column in `ps -ef` grows. I'm hoping there is something there to help me figure out what is happening. Thanks, Garl [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ps -ef UIDPID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD root 1 0 0 Jan16 ?00:00:04 init root 2 1 0 Jan16 ?00:00:00 [keventd] root 3 1 0 Jan16 ?00:00:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] root 8 1 0 Jan16 ?00:00:00 [bdflush] === Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE, NX NASTRAN, FEMAP --- UGS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com === -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- === ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]informaiton on ps -ef
C means Crashing. That's why it goes up just before the crash. (-: Ok, so how do I turn off the Crash bit? I read that as percent CPU over the process's lifetime. Thanks, Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Comcast DNS related
Comcast is reassigning IPs from ATT owned IPs to Comcast Owned IPs. The 12.x.x.x block is owned by ATT and the 24.x.x.x block is owned by Comcast. The 67.x.x.x block of IPs are owned by various people. Garl [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Querying whois.arin.net] [whois.arin.net] ATT WorldNet Services ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1) 12.0.0.0 - 12.255.255.255 ATT LINCROFT ORT ATT-LIN850-0 (NET-12-0-0-0-2) 12.0.0.0 - 12.0.0.255 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-01-13 19:15 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Querying whois.arin.net] [whois.arin.net] Comcast Cable Communications, IP Services EASTERNSHORE-1 (NET-24-0-0-0-1) 24.0.0.0 - 24.15.255.255 Comcast Cable Communications TEXAS-8 (NET-24-0-0-0-2) 24.0.0.0 - 24.1.255.255 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-01-13 19:15 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Horst Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:58 PM To: Eugene Linux User Group; Unix; GNU Subject: [eug-lug]Comcast DNS related I have been on ATT/Comcast for years. I was always in the 12.x.y.z IP block After being exclusively on Linux for quiet some time I just rebooted into Windows. After only 2 minutes of downtime (i.e. no lease-expire-situation) I got moved into the 24.x.y.z IP block, and my Windows Zonealarm spit out some warnings I am not expanding on here. Did anyone else on 'nix notice such a move into the 24.x.y.z. IP block recently, or am I just experiencing a random and normal change, or am I just a bit paranoid ? Just checking . Horst ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script
#!/bin/sh grep local /etc/hosts /dev/null if [ $? -ne 1 ] then echo Been there. Done That. else echo It's ok to do it now. fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:24 AM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux UserGroup's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script In this example, I'm trying to see if the word 'local' is in /etc/hosts. Thanks Grigsby, Garl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Are you just try to see if the file exists and is not empty? If so use the following: if [ -s /etc/hosts ] ; then ... fi The -s checks that the file exists and has a size greater than zero. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:05 AM To: Eugene Linux Users Group Subject: [eug-lug]Conditional Bash script Hi, I'm trying to write a script that checks the contents of a file and if it's there skip it. Here is my test script: #!/bin/sh if [ 0 == grep local /etc/hosts ]; then echo Been there. Done that. else echo It's ok to do it now. fi === It doesn't like the 'if' line but I haven't found an example that I can use. Grep returns 0 if the search phrase is found. Quotes, single or double doesn't change it, neither does parens or brackets. Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache
Try using virtual instead: -Original Message- From: Bob Crandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:12 AM To: Eugene Linux Users Group Subject: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache Hi, One of my clients is trying to use: !--#include file=header.txt-- to insert some common info on several web pages on their server. It doesn't work. I checked /etc/apache/httd.conf and it seems to be setup right. There is: LoadModule includes_modulelibexec/mod_include.so and AddModule mod_include.c and # This may also be None, All, or any combination of Indexes, # Includes, FollowSymLinks, ExecCGI, or MultiViews. # # Note that MultiViews must be named *explicitly* --- Options All # doesn't give it to you. # Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews +Includes and # To use server-parsed HTML files # AddType text/html .shtml AddHandler server-parsed .shtml There are no errors in /var/log/apache/error_log. /var/log/apache/access_log doesn't show an attempt to load the include file. What am I missing? Thanks -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SSI and Apache
Now let me finish my thought... Try using virtual instead: !--#include virtual=/include/nav_main.htm -- Using file requires that the file be in the same directory as the referencing file. I have also had other random problems using file. Also make sure that the file has a '.shtml' extension and not '.html' or '.shtm'. I have made both of these mistakes in the past. Garl Hi, One of my clients is trying to use: !--#include file=header.txt-- to insert some common info on several web pages on their server. It doesn't work. I checked /etc/apache/httd.conf and it seems to be setup right. There is: LoadModule includes_modulelibexec/mod_include.so and AddModule mod_include.c and # This may also be None, All, or any combination of Indexes, # Includes, FollowSymLinks, ExecCGI, or MultiViews. # # Note that MultiViews must be named *explicitly* --- Options All # doesn't give it to you. # Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews +Includes and # To use server-parsed HTML files # AddType text/html .shtml AddHandler server-parsed .shtml There are no errors in /var/log/apache/error_log. /var/log/apache/access_log doesn't show an attempt to load the include file. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]system rescue CD
Knoppix includes this utility as well. I have used it once with good results. Garl -Original Message- From: Rob Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:04 AM To: EUGLUG Subject: [eug-lug]system rescue CD It used to be that if you wanted to resize your partition to install Linux alongside Windows, people recommended getting a copy of Partition Magic. This CD includes QTParted, a partition magic clone which can do the same, along with a host of other tools. Anyone ever use it? http://www.sysresccd.org/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]webserver logs...
I really doubt this is a intentional attack. This looks look what the Windows virus Nimda does when looking for targets. I used to have a cron job on a webserver at work that would collect the IPs and send them to our Windows IT group to fix. Garl -Original Message- From: Linux Rocks ! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]webserver logs... so... ive noticed this before in my webserver logs... 68.50.124.251 - - [20/Nov/2003:23:07:12 -0500] GET /scripts/..%%35c../winnt/ system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 400 292 so... looks like someone it scanning for a winnt based server they can exploit to me.. anyway, obviously its not an acutal problem, but I figured maybe some of you have had simular issues, and come up with creative solutions... like with ip tables or something :) Jamie -- It's a bird.. It's a plane.. No, it's KernelMan, faster than a speeding bullet, to your rescue. Doing new kernel versions in under 5 seconds flat.. -- Linus, in the announcement for 1.3.27 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Computerbase, other Eugene PC resellers?
PCPartsExpress used to be great. They have/had 'national warehouse' prices, and you could make an order and then just drive over and pick it up.. they're in Springfield, in the light industrial district between Gateway Mall and I-105. However, I guess they got tired of being a local retail chain because after about 4-5 months they decided that they were only going to ship - no local pickups. Oh well. Are you sure that was PCPartsxpress and not edgemicro (formerly known as Computer X Press)? PCPartsxpress has a small shop right off Q Street (across the street from Safeway). Edgemicro, has stopped doing business after a few, uh, legal problems. After a large number of people complained about paying for stuff and never getting it the DOJ stepped in and basically shut them down. There was an article in the RG about it a few months ago. The folks at PCPartsxpress have ok prices, but the people in there are fairly clueless. They are fine if you are in a bind and need a bit and you know exactly what you need and have an idea of what it should cost. Some things are ok, others are outrageous. Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]RPM woes
Can you post an ls -l of /var/lib/rpm/ Garl -Original Message- From: Bob Crandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:18 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new packages, so (if that's right) it could/should be used instead of -i anytime. I use -Uvh. rpm -Uvh wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions This .rpm is made for redhat 9.0. If I type rpm all by itself I get the same error. Also: is this .rpm file made for RedHat 9? It might be somewhat distro-dependent, if not... or maybe there's more cruft left over from mandrake. (You managed to upgrade a mandrake to redhat, using a CD and clicking upgrade?? nice, except for the headaches!) Also, if worse comes to worse, say if you can determine that there is a conflict with the existing package or other ones, remove whatever related stuff you can afford to remove, temporarily (rpm -e, but be careful, as it does not save backups as it uninstalls), do your install or upgrade, and then fix up your package set. For instance, to upgrade from redhat 7.x to 9, I had to remove a TON of packages, since I was using a lot of .fr2 (freshrpms) and .ximian (er, Novell) packages which made for horrible unresolvable conflicts until I erased all those outsourced ones, did the upgrade, then recovered based merely on a saved list of packages... my dvd reader still doesn't work again though, wah! I installed over the top of Mandrake. I didn't tell it to upgrade. How would I install rpm if the current rpm program is busted? regards, Ben On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:59:47 + Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi, | | When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 | box I get | rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions | | This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. | | help. | | Thanks | Bob | ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]RPM woes
What it sounded like to me was a out of date rpm database. Mandrake 7.2 used RPM v3.somthingorotherithinkitwas.0.5 (another indian name), while Redhat 9 used 4.2. If you did do an upgrade from Mandrake to Redhat (you are braver than I) then it is probably an issue of an out of date db. There are ways to rebuild it, but not if you can get a shell Good luck. Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Crandell Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:18 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies. Thanks. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. What I was getting at was did you install redhat over the top of mandrake or did you wipe it? They way you said it sounded like the former. This is a file server in another city too far from here. I had to install Redhat 3 times to get it to work. If you have to install so many times and now you are getting this message after a clean install, I would immediately suspect a hardware problem. First thing: recompile the kernel. You don't need to use it, but the kernel compile will put the system through a pretty good test of processor and memory. Use a stable kernel and look out for any breaks in the compile process. They'll usually come as signal 11. Next try some tests of the disk system. Put on a large file of real or random data (600mb) and get an md5 sum of it. Then copy it around several places on the disk and get an md5 sum of the others. If you get disk errors or different md5 sums, obviously there is a disk/controller problem. Monitor the kernel log. I have a few problems on my workstation right now. VNC freezes my console occasionally. Since I use it daily it is a daily crash. Sshd works, but it is quite annoying. I'll be replacing the video card to test. Also my debian package management files keep getting corrupted. Occasionally I can no longer delete some files. I suspect the disk controller. Cory EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-868-0331 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]where can I learn more about wait channel - wchan?
What kind of info are you looking for? I found a bunch when I did an advanced Google Search with the word WCHAN in the with all of the words field and the word man in the without the words field. Garl -Original Message- From: Cory Petkovsek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:09 AM To: euglug Subject: [eug-lug]where can I learn more about wait channel - wchan? Doing a google search on wchan only brings up man pages for ps (which I have on my system) or for the wchan command (which I don't have, but don't think I need). On Linux, the kernel gives me the english wchan value for a process: select, poll, wait4, unix_stream_data_wait, read_chan, rt_sigsuspend, nanosleep, etc. Where can I learn more about these values and what they mean? Thanks, Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT Consulting Technology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Sbus ethernet card
I have one but it is 100 Mbit only. Not 10/100. Only 100Mbit. Garl -Original Message- From: Jack Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]Sbus ethernet card ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Sbus ethernet card
Thats probably just an adapter, not an actuall ethernet device Garl -Original Message- From: Linux Rocks ! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 6:15 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Sbus ethernet card If you had only asked a month ago... Somewhere in storage I have a sun ethernet adapter (looks like it hooks on to a d-sub 25 connector on the sun, and 10bt on the other... You could have had it for free... sadly it sits in a box somewhere going unused. Jamie On Wednesday 08 October 2003 01:02 pm, Jack Morgan wrote: : I wonder if anyone has an extra SBUS based ethernet card they would be : willing to part with. I'm in the process of building a firewall on a : SPARC. : : Thanks, -- Seriously, the way I did this was by using a special /sbin/loader binary with debugging hooks that I made (dd is your friend: binary editors are for wimps). -- Linus Torvalds, in an article on a dnserver ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Network Profiles
Looks like Mandrake 9.2 has a new Network setup that allows you to create profiles for separate networks. It doesn't look like it is cooked yet (See the link below for further details), but I was just wishing for this a few weeks ago. Somebody had been reading my mind. Looks like I may have to go out and buy myself a new copy of Mandrake. http://www.open-mag.com/0626339824.shtml Garl === Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE, NX NASTRAN, FEMAP --- EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com === -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- === ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Perl Script question
Ok I found a PERL script on line that I would like to play with (http://nntp.x.perl.org/group/perl.scripts/315) but it requires a PERL module called Text::CRLF. Now I am fairly new to PERL so this may be a stupid question. Where do I find this? I have looked on CPAN but I can't find it. Where does one look for stuff like this? What am I doing wrong? Garl === Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE, NX NASTRAN, FEMAP --- EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com === -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- === ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Perl Script question
Ok this has been running for most of the afternoon downloading stuff and asking me mysterious questions. I don't know if it will ever be finished. -Original Message- From: Brad Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:38 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Perl Script question [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # perl -MCPAN -e shell cpan install Text::CRLF Let your perl do the walking... Grigsby, Garl wrote: Ok I found a PERL script on line that I would like to play with (http://nntp.x.perl.org/group/perl.scripts/315) but it requires a PERL module called Text::CRLF. Now I am fairly new to PERL so this may be a stupid question. Where do I find this? I have looked on CPAN but I can't find it. Where does one look for stuff like this? What am I doing wrong? Garl EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Perl Script question
This on the other hand worked perfectly. Thanks. Garl -Original Message- From: Brad Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:55 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Perl Script question Hmm, looks like that went OK on one of my machines, but not the other. If it doesn't work for you, try doing: install Meta::Utils::Dos which can be rather large, but it's got the package in question. If you want /just/ Text::CRLF, here's a standalone version. http://nntp.x.perl.org/group/perl.scripts/;msgid=m2vgb9hl57.fs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take the code at the bottom (starting with Package Text::CRLF), and do the following: cd /usr/lib/perl5/ mkdir Text cd Text touch CRLF.pm your editor here CRLF.pm paste contents of the above post into the file. Make it executable, and do whatever you were gonna do with the CGI script. Looks like Text::CRLF is only currently available as part of Meta::Utils::Dos, but this guy wrote a standalone version. He's trying to get it on CPAN, I guess... -Brad Brad Davidson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # perl -MCPAN -e shell cpan install Text::CRLF Let your perl do the walking... Grigsby, Garl wrote: Ok I found a PERL script on line that I would like to play with (http://nntp.x.perl.org/group/perl.scripts/315) but it requires a PERL module called Text::CRLF. Now I am fairly new to PERL so this may be a stupid question. Where do I find this? I have looked on CPAN but I can't find it. Where does one look for stuff like this? What am I doing wrong? Garl EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]WANTED: Powered external drive enclosure
Do you care how big it is? I have one that holds 5 drives. Dual 120mm fans. Sounds like a wind tunnel I worked with in school. That what you have in mind? -Original Message- From: Brad Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:57 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: [eug-lug]WANTED: Powered external drive enclosure I'm wondering if anyone has an old powered SCSI drive enclosure around that's collecting dust. You know the type.. ancient, biege, held 3-4 drives, had a Centronix port and some scsi-ID selection switches on the back, internal AT power supply, and loud as hell. If anyone has one they'd like to unload please let me know. If a moderate financial contribution is required to place it in my posession, I can do that as well. Don't want/need the drives, just the case PSU. Thanks, -Brad FYI, it has *absolutely* nothing to do with this: http://users.theshell.com/~jms/case/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]tar oddness
It should list the files and create the tar file. Have you checked to see if the tar file exists? [EMAIL PROTECTED] vfs]# tar cvf foo.tar ./modules ./modules/ ./modules/default-modules.conf ./modules/cdda-module.conf ./modules/desktop-file.conf ./modules/extra-modules.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED] vfs]# ls *.tar foo.tar [EMAIL PROTECTED] vfs]# If that doesn't work try what is the output of alias -p? Garl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:12 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: [eug-lug]tar oddness Redhat 7.3: when I perform any tar operation (tar cvf blah.tar ./blah) all I get is a listing of files in in my current directory. I have checked the env and aliases and cannot find anything about the problem in my web searches. Any suggestions? --Christopher ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]WANTED: Powered external drive enclosure
The case will hold 4 Full height 5 drives, or 8 half height drives. I has two separate SCSI busses so you can configure 4 on one bus and 4 on the other. I even have a little shorty centronics cable to bridge between the two busses. I have had 6 half height drives in this case before (It keeps the drive very, very cool) and it worked fine. I also have 3.5 to 5.25 rail adapters for at least 4 drives and I could probably come up with more. If that works for you let me know. Garl -Original Message- From: Brad Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:09 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]WANTED: Powered external drive enclosure I just realized that Garl said five inch drives, not five drives. How many does it hold? Unless I can dig up some rails / hotswap bays to go with it, I'm looking for something to put 3.5 drives in. -Brad Brad Davidson wrote: Grigsby, Garl wrote: Do you care how big it is? I have one that holds 5 drives. Dual 120mm fans. Sounds like a wind tunnel I worked with in school. That what you have in mind? and Bob Crandell wrote: Yes. I think it has 6 or 7 bays. What's it worth to you? It isn't mine. I'm to find a home for it as a favor. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Re: Coffee, er wifi encryption
Ya but I can get a brand new Proxim Silver for $15 plus $8 shipping. A gold will cost me at least $70. I may just get the Silver to see if this is something I will keep doing. I was hoping to find a good deal on a used card, but so far no joy. Hell If I setup wireless in my house it is going to be g, not b, so I might as well save the money, right? Crap. Indecision. Oh well. I did get a GPS to talk to my laptop. That is something, right? Garl -Original Message- From: T. Joseph Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 4:15 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Re: Coffee, er wifi encryption On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 01:49:58PM -0700, Badd_Karma wrote: So is everybody saying that a 64bit card is just as good as a 128bit? My plans for this card are two fold. First, I want to setup a Wireless card to so I can play with the Wireless + gps tools. Second I would use it for general web browsing at home. Nothing that I care if anybody listens in on. Anything sensitive would be done using either ssh or ssl. It's good to have the Gold card because you never know when you're going to need WEP 128 bit, insecure or not. It sure beats 48 bit, that's for sure, which these days can be cracked in about 20 minutes. Just know that there's no point to using it for security if you set up your own AP somewhere. -- T. Joseph Carter Labels do not define, but [EMAIL PROTECTED]they can artificially limit Mercury You don't have to be crazy to be a member of the project, but you will be.. =:] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]more free crap!
Is any of this left? I tried replying Off List but the message bounced -Original Message- From: T. Joseph Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]more free crap! [Resend with better email address for euglug stuff] I too have some stuff just taking up space here that I need to give a good home. Most of is useful, just not to me anymore. ;) Say the word and it is yours. If it is carryable, I will bring it with me tonight: - 5 port Linksys 10/100 switch - Linksys Cable/DSL router (1 port), probably needs firmware update - 9v AC adapter (uses radio shack swappable plug ends) - Handfull of PC power cables in grey/black - Four 80 pin IDE cables (may be 33, probably 66-133 though) - Single 40 pin IDE cable (I still have one of these?!) - 3Com USR Sportster 56k modem (serial) - Several AV cables (3.5mm stereo, 3.5mm stereo - RCA, stereo A/V RCA, single RCA, S-Video, etc) - AT 101 keyboard (w/ PS2 adapter) - Creative Labs PCI sound card, either es137x or analog-only emu10k1 - NVIDIA GeForce2MX 200 AGP - Pair of Netgear FA311 10/100 NICs (PCI) - Realtek 10/100 NIC (PCI) -- T. Joseph Carter Available in blue cherry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] strawberry, and grape! Personally, I don't often talk about social good because when I hear other people talk about social good, that's when I reach for my revolver. -- Eric Raymond ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug] FW: Fwd: [Full-Disclosure] Petition against VeriSlime'sDNS abuse
Yup. I got the same thing. -Original Message- From: T. Joseph Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:37 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug] FW: Fwd: [Full-Disclosure] Petition against VeriSlime'sDNS abuse On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 11:19:47AM -0700, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Here is a petition to try and get verisign from typosquatting on every domain possible, regardless of whether or not that domain has been registered. http://www.petitiononline.com/icanndns/ Apparently this had several thousand sigs earlier, now lists 178. I cannot add myself as 179 because the signature approval thingy is broken. -- T. Joseph Carter Available in blue cherry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] strawberry, and grape! Flav Win 98 Psychic edition: We'll tell you where you're going tomorrow ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Coffee
I've been itching to try this for some time, but I haven't got any hardware yet, other than my laptop. In fact I spent a couple of hours about a week ago bouncing around Ebay looking at wireless cards and GPS antennas. I've been thinking that I would prefer a USB GPS antenna, but I haven't looked at what is supported on Linux. So what GPS unit are you using? What wireless card? Are there any wireless PCMCIA cards that will support an external antenna? I've been looking at probably getting a DLink DWL-650 because a) they are cheap, and b) they seem to have pretty good Linux support (prism2). So does anybody have a WiFi card they are looking to get rid of? I have some cash and lots of stuff I can trade. Just let me know. Thanks, Garl -Original Message- From: Brad Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:42 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Coffee That was generated by GPSMap, a nifty little util that comes with the Kismet (the open-source wardriving util). If you have a GPS reciever connected while you're wardriving, it logs GPS data when it detects a packet. This is all saved to a big XML file, that GPSMap parses out, and displayes on a map. It does a power-weighted average of points that each AP was observed to guess where it is, and what the range on it is. I've made a few patches to it that I haven't yet got around to getting merged into the main source... mostly because I promised the mailing list a feature that I was quite happy with, and I'm embarassed to post it in the current state. I just haven't got around to finishing it yet. Anyways. Dot color indicates protection - green is no-wep, red is wep, blue is probably-factory-config (like a Linksys AP with a SSID of Linksys, etc). It's all passive so it can't know if it's got MAC restrictions on, of course. The shape is the packet/AP type - circle is managed, triangle is ad-hoc, + is an association request, square is if we didn't get enough data to create a network entry for the packets... normally this means association requests. Circle color is channel. Size is a (very) rough estimation of where the network can be picked up. The feature I wasn't happy with is the legend-printing function that explains all of this in a box on the image. Hence my lack of a public release :) -Brad Grigsby, Garl wrote: Ok let me finish typing that now couple of questions. What do the various colored does mean? Are these public WAPs or are these just open WAPs. How did you generate the image? Manually or did you have some software to map out WAP locations and ranges? http://wifimon:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/~kiloman/gpsmap/city_lo wdetail.png ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Coffee
Ok. If not the DLink, what about the older 3Com AirConnect cards? As I recall the antenna just popped off of them. Would they work? I've seen em on EBay for 15 or so. If not that, what card would be a good card that would support an external antenna? Garl -Original Message- From: T. Joseph Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 6:21 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Coffee On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 08:08:56PM -0400, Grigsby, Garl wrote: I've been itching to try this for some time, but I haven't got any hardware yet, other than my laptop. In fact I spent a couple of hours about a week ago bouncing around Ebay looking at wireless cards and GPS antennas. I've been thinking that I would prefer a USB GPS antenna, but I haven't looked at what is supported on Linux. I don't know about USB GPS support.. So what GPS unit are you using? What wireless card? Are there any wireless PCMCIA cards that will support an external antenna? I've been looking at probably getting a DLink DWL-650 because a) they are cheap, and b) they seem to have pretty good Linux support (prism2). I do know most of the serial ones work, but I wasn't willing to pay $2-300 for a GPS so I don't have one. I'd say avoid DLink on principle because of the games they've played with Linux support for the DWL-650+ which they provided a binary driver based on GPL code, refused to release source, and yanked the binary driver. Linux is officially unsupported as far as DLink is concerned. Netgear supports Linux actively. So does anybody have a WiFi card they are looking to get rid of? I have some cash and lots of stuff I can trade. Just let me know. Unfortunately the current 802.11b card made by Netgear does not have the ability to add the SNA connector as originally done to many Prism2's. I've popped mine open to to discover and verify this. It has the ability to take a card-edge-mount connector, MMCX probably, and requires a minute capacitor soldered into place just as the Prism2 boards do. I broke one of the two clips designed to prevent you from being able to get the thing open to make this kind of modification. It holds itself together, but I resigned myself to, once the antenna mod was finished, shape some epoxy to fill in the small gap left by the clip. Of course, I no longer have a notebook with an external PCMCIA slot, and the one I do have came with 802.11g when I bought it. -- T. Joseph Carter The human brain does not [EMAIL PROTECTED] contain information In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion. -- Carl Sagan, 1987 CSICOP keynote address ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Solaris Question
Being that this is the Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group I was wondering if anybody might be able to shed some light on the following. I have a Solaris 9 system and I was just checking on the status of a job I am running on it and when I run an ls -l I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /scratch/grigsby $ ls -l total 7074996 .SR1r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 188997408 Sep 19 11:37 4842419-i32 .SR2r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 188813200 Sep 19 11:43 4842419-i32 .rs1r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 2344271872 Sep 19 12:22 4842419-i32 .rs11--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 0 Sep 19 11:42 4842419-i32 .rs12--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 35472784 Sep 19 11:51 4842419-i32 -rw-r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac3744 Sep 19 11:05 Test_restraints8.bun -rw-r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac5208 Sep 19 12:22 Test_restraints8.lis -rw-r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 774152192 Sep 19 18:38 Test_restraints8.mfh -rwxr--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 43598988 Sep 19 08:22 Test_restraints8.sun -rw-r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 52813824 Sep 19 11:05 Test_restraints81196.sdb -rw-r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac 0 Sep 19 11:04 error1191.out -rw-r--r-- 1 grigsby gtac8192 Sep 19 11:04 tmp1196.dsp Notice that the file extension .SR1 and .SR2 is show in the first start of the line. Odd. I thought it must be something funky with my .profile as I have been tinkering with it lately so I tried just a plain ls. This is what I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /scratch/grigsby $ ls .rs12Test_restraints8.sun .SR2 Test_restraints8.bun Test_restraints81196.sdb .rs1 Test_restraints8.lis error1191.out .rs11Test_restraints8.mfh tmp1196.dsp Ok. Now this is really getting funky. The files, just to be clear, should be named 4842419-i32.SR1, 4842419-i32.SR2, etc. Anybody have any idea what would be causing this? The same thing happens when I look at the list as root, so I know it is not my .profile. Thanks for any help, Garl === Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE FEMAP Support --- EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com === -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- === ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Coffee
http://wifimon:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/~kiloman/gpsmap/city_lowdetail.png ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Coffee
Ok let me finish typing that now couple of questions. What do the various colored does mean? Are these public WAPs or are these just open WAPs. How did you generate the image? Manually or did you have some software to map out WAP locations and ranges? http://wifimon:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/~kiloman/gpsmap/city_lo wdetail.png ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]SSH Exploit
I am assuming that most of you have heard that there is a) a new SSH vulnerability and b) that there appears to be an exploit available. (See the link below for more information). What I would like to know is if anybody has seen somewhere I can get my hands on the exploit. I would like to see what it looks like when it attacks a machine. A friend of my might have already been hit. He saw some unusual activity on his system and pulled the network connection, but we are not sure if he has been root'd or not. I would like to try this on one of my systems and see what shows in the logs. Thanks, Garl http://slashdot.org/articles/03/09/16/1327248.shtml?tid=126tid=172 === Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE FEMAP Support --- EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com === -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- === ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SSH Exploit
thanks. -Original Message- From: Larry Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:54 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]SSH Exploit I'm in the middle of patching some of our systems and from reading the security advisory it looks like it's a DOS vuln, but NOT a remote root quoting FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-03:12.openssh When a packet is received that is larger than the space remaining in the currently allocated buffer, OpenSSH's buffer management attempts to reallocate a larger buffer. During this process, the recorded size of the buffer is increased. The new size is then range checked. If the range check fails, then fatal() is called to cleanup and exit. In some cases, the cleanup code will attempt to zero and free the buffer that just had its recorded size (but not actual allocation) increased. As a result, memory outside of the allocated buffer will be overwritten with NUL bytes. III. Impact A remote attacker can cause OpenSSH to crash. The bug is not believed to be exploitable for code execution on FreeBSD. I have seen reports of a remote-root exploit, but not confirmed ones. still, serious though. On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 03:30 PM, Grigsby, Garl wrote: I am assuming that most of you have heard that there is a) a new SSH vulnerability and b) that there appears to be an exploit available. (See the link below for more information). What I would like to know is if anybody has seen somewhere I can get my hands on the exploit. I would like to see what it looks like when it attacks a machine. A friend of my might have already been hit. He saw some unusual activity on his system and pulled the network connection, but we are not sure if he has been root'd or not. I would like to try this on one of my systems and see what shows in the logs. Thanks, Garl http://slashdot.org/articles/03/09/16/1327248.shtml?tid=126tid=172 == = Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE FEMAP Support -- - EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com == = -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- == = ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- The Internet is falling --C. Little 2003 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wanted: DDR RAM (PC2700 = 333 Mhz) any size okay
I'd hit some place like Staples. I know that they have PNY 256 MB DDR for $55 with a $20 rebate. Garl -Original Message- From: Marc Baber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]Wanted: DDR RAM (PC2700 = 333 Mhz) any size okay My last request for memory worked out so nicely (Thanks, Garl!) I thought I'd try Eug-Lug again. My son has a brand new motherboard that we think gets stuck in its power-on sequence because the 512 Mb DDR RAM simm we have is either defective or too fast for the BIOS to handle in its initial configuration. All the local stores are exorbitant compared to on-line prices, but we need to check out the motherboard real soon so we can still return it if it's broken, so time is of the essence. We can come pick up at your location in or near Eugene. Thank you for your help/deals, Marc -- Marc Baber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]This is too funny!
As some of you may know, I am forced to use a Windows machine at work, and due to the nature of my work, at home as well. I also run a number of Linux boxes, including my company laptop (you should have seen the local IT guy's face when he came over to apply the latest microsoft patch to my laptop... :)). Anyway, it is not just Microsoft that has said no 3rd party connects. AOL and ICQ both said the same thing. It won't last. I just a product called Trillian for most of my external messaging needs. This product allows me to connect to AOL, ICQ, IRC, Yahoo, and MSN. At one point or another all of these have stopped working because the parent server changed protocols. With in a day or two it was always working aging. Anyway, Trillian said they will have a patch for Mickeysofts latest protocol long before the changeover date. I bet the folks that write GAIM will too. On another note, I have no problem letting Microsoft supply me with messaging service, especially when it is free to me. I use Hotmail to. Why not. They don't get a dime from me, and they won't either. I just like the portable nature of Hotmail. Same thing with MSN Messenger. As long as they are not charging me for it, and I don't have to look at their ads, I have no problem with it. Just my random thoughts for the afternoon. Garl -Original Message- From: Bob Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [eug-lug]This is too funny! Linux Rocks ! wrote: Microsoft will not allow 3rd party software with thier service after october 15th, when the start using a new protocol... I don't regularly exchange messages with any MSN users. But if I did, I'd tell them they'll have to use a different service if they want to talk to me. (Unless they want to buy me a sacrificial PC w/ 'Doze installed and an MSN subscription... (-: ) -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]wow..
http://swpat.ffii.org/group/demo/index.en.html -Original Message- From: Tim Howe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]wow.. http://www.knoppix.org/ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]funny compiler messages...
This one was always subtle. ordering CD from http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/wish just kidding ;-) -Original Message- From: Bob Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:49 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]funny compiler messages... Mr O wrote: A couple years ago I was compiling a window manager, not sure which anymore, probably Enlightenment, WindowMaker, or AfterStep and got some nifty output during the compile. Something to the tune of: Checking for certain brand beer in fridge, not found Checking for any beer in fridge No beer found, please take care of this problem as soon as possible. That would also be from Enlightenment. Here's the exact text. checking for mass_quantities_of_bass_ale in -lFridge... no checking for mass_quantities_of_any_ale in -lFridge... no Warning: No ales were found in your refrigerator. We highly suggest that you rectify this situation immediately. See? Configure message trivia is something Gentoo excels at! (-! -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]ssh with X
Yes and no. If you run the app on your workstation then any cpu processing will be done on the server, but all of the graphics will be processed on your laptop. So if it is CPU intensive, great. If it is Graphics intensive, it will help, just not as much. G -Original Message- From: Rob Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:21 AM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]ssh with X So, since my laptop is pretty slow by today's standards (P233), is it possible to use the laptop as a terminal and use my workstation as the real computer behind the scenes? I think the trick would be the necessary network drivers to at least connect to my workstation. -Rob ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]More Questions!
Jack, Not sure if this is just me, but all of your messages are showing up as attachments Garl -Original Message- From: Jack Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:31 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]More Questions! ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]rpm's
(except maybe the AMD K6, not sure). K6 was considered by Linux, to be a i586. Don't forget there are also RPMs built specifically for Athlons now too. Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]More Questions!
PS if you need CDs and don't have broad band just ask. Somebody will provide you will CDs. I, personally, keep images for Redhat and Mandrake on hand. -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:33 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]More Questions! You have a mandrake cd? Good, Use it. Cory I second that. I use Debian, Mandrake, and Redhat. Both Redhat and Mandrake are good places to start. They are very easy to install and have nice form based configuration utils. Redhat 9 is has gotten to the point where you can do much of the administration without resorting to a command line (you can but you don't need to). Debian is harder to install and would probably be better left until after you are more comfortable with Linux. If you have specific questions about a distro, fire em off. Not many people around here bite, and our backgrounds and how we use Linux are VERY diverse. Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]More Questions!
You have a mandrake cd? Good, Use it. Cory I second that. I use Debian, Mandrake, and Redhat. Both Redhat and Mandrake are good places to start. They are very easy to install and have nice form based configuration utils. Redhat 9 is has gotten to the point where you can do much of the administration without resorting to a command line (you can but you don't need to). Debian is harder to install and would probably be better left until after you are more comfortable with Linux. If you have specific questions about a distro, fire em off. Not many people around here bite, and our backgrounds and how we use Linux are VERY diverse. Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wanted: 32Mb RAM 36-bin (72-pin) 70ns or faster
What model NICs? I have, sitting in front of me, 4 (matched!) Siemens 32Mb, 60ns, FastPage 72pin sticks of RAM. Garl -Original Message- From: Marc Baber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 4:41 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Wanted: 32Mb RAM 36-bin (72-pin) 70ns or faster Hi Garl, Well, I have my own pile of stuff here and small amounts of cash, if necessary. My stuff includes (not all of these-- just pick one or two?) 4 computer chassis (one very nice Zeos with a 486 mother board you could swap out), Some PCI network cards (3 Coms even) an HP 550 Color inkjet printer An Iomega external zip drive, a few zip disks. Keyboards, mice, cables Does any of that sound good yet :-)? If not, let me know what you'd take in cash, assuming you've got at least 4 of the 32Mb simms of the appropriate pincount (72) and speed (70ns or better). Thanks for responding!, Marc Grigsby, Garl wrote: I got a whole bag of RAM. What do you have to trade for? Garl -- Marc Baber [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bot Works, Inc. http://www.botworks.com P.O. Box 12057 Phone: 541-485-8446 Eugene, OR 97440 FAX: 541-485-8446 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]More Questions!
or for even less you could just stick it in a standard desktop case. http://www.pccables.com/cgi-bin/orders6.cgi?action=Showitempartno=00504rsite=link G -Original Message- From: Maximillian Schwanekamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:37 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]More Questions! Bob Miller wrote: Laptops only have one drive, and it's never big enough for extra copies. You could swap out your existing laptop HD using an inexpensive kit, making your old drive accessible via IDE or USB. For example: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Detai ls.asp?EdpNo=610120sku=K450-8404 Max ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Red Hat files suit against SCO
No, because I read a report from somebody who had gone and seen their presentation and he said that, what little they showed him, was at best a stretch. Of course, I can't for the life of me, find the article at the moment. Garl -Original Message- From: Joseph Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:09 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Red Hat files suit against SCO On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 07:07:45AM -0700, Edward Craig wrote: Nobody not under a non-disclosure agreement signed with SCO has yet determined any of the code in question. And of course, the NDA probably has a clause prohibiting you from saying, based on your analysis of the code in question, that SCO's claims are malicious and untrue. -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Available in cherry and grape Yorick isnt't there a windows-hosted gdb? gltron there is, but it's unbelievably sucky Yorick then there's the advanced debugger called printf ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Linux on Laptops
I have been using Linux on various laptops for a while now, but I have mostly used them for mobile diagnostic tool boxes. I am now starting to use one as more of a light weight workstation. I know that there are people that use their laptops a lot and I hope somebody can answer a few questions. So far my attempts at googling for an answer have lead to lots of unrelated stuff. 1) I am currently using a Dell Latitude CPi that has a modular bay in front that can hold either a second battery, a floppy drive, or a cdrom drive. How do I hot swap the cdrom in and out and have the system see it? I know that the hardware is capable of doing this because I can do it under windows, but for the life of me, I cannot get Linux to do it. I guess I would like to know how to be able to do the same thing with a docking station. (i.e. suspend the system and undock and have Linux be aware of the change and survive). 2) Is there any way to define a hardware profile for the system where it will recognize that a specific set of hardware is installed (e.g. docked with cd drive install, docked with cd and floppy drive, undocked no cdrom drive, etc) and self configure based on this? 3) Does anybody know how of an existing method to determine what services start based on your configuration (i.e. networked connected or no network connected). At present ypbind starts all the time and fails if there is no network, which does not take much time, but it is annoying. There is also no reason to have autofs, apache, samba load if there is not network. I would also like to be able to assign an IP address to my system if the network is not connected so that Gnome works correctly (it does not like not having an IP address). Well this is a start. I'm sure I will have more. Garl === Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE FEMAP Support --- EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com === -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- === ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Red Hat files suit against SCO
Ah Ha! I found it. Google really is sweet. Hm. Google. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6956 -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:07 AM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]Red Hat files suit against SCO No, because I read a report from somebody who had gone and seen their presentation and he said that, what little they showed him, was at best a stretch. Of course, I can't for the life of me, find the article at the moment. Garl -Original Message- From: Joseph Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:09 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Red Hat files suit against SCO On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 07:07:45AM -0700, Edward Craig wrote: Nobody not under a non-disclosure agreement signed with SCO has yet determined any of the code in question. And of course, the NDA probably has a clause prohibiting you from saying, based on your analysis of the code in question, that SCO's claims are malicious and untrue. -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Available in cherry and grape Yorick isnt't there a windows-hosted gdb? gltron there is, but it's unbelievably sucky Yorick then there's the advanced debugger called printf ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wanted: 32Mb RAM 36-bin (72-pin) 70ns or faster
Sure. Time/Place? G -Original Message- From: Marc Baber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:02 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Wanted: 32Mb RAM 36-bin (72-pin) 70ns or faster Yep, it's a 3C905B-TX PCI 10/100Base-TX in box with driver floppies and manual.. Good enough? Grigsby, Garl wrote: What model NICs? I have, sitting in front of me, 4 (matched!) Siemens 32Mb, 60ns, FastPage 72pin sticks of RAM. Garl -Original Message- From: Marc Baber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 4:41 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Wanted: 32Mb RAM 36-bin (72-pin) 70ns or faster Hi Garl, Well, I have my own pile of stuff here and small amounts of cash, if necessary. My stuff includes (not all of these-- just pick one or two?) 4 computer chassis (one very nice Zeos with a 486 mother board you could swap out), Some PCI network cards (3 Coms even) an HP 550 Color inkjet printer An Iomega external zip drive, a few zip disks. Keyboards, mice, cables Does any of that sound good yet :-)? If not, let me know what you'd take in cash, assuming you've got at least 4 of the 32Mb simms of the appropriate pincount (72) and speed (70ns or better). Thanks for responding!, Marc Grigsby, Garl wrote: I got a whole bag of RAM. What do you have to trade for? Garl -- Marc Baber [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bot Works, Inc. http://www.botworks.com P.O. Box 12057 Phone: 541-485-8446 Eugene, OR 97440 FAX: 541-485-8446 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Marc Baber [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bot Works, Inc. http://www.botworks.com P.O. Box 12057 Phone: 541-485-8446 Eugene, OR 97440 FAX: 541-485-8446 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Cluster Knoppix
So has anybody played with this yet? I stumbled across it this weekend and am hunting for personal experience... http://bofh.be/clusterknoppix/ === Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE FEMAP Support --- EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com === -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- === ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wanted: 32Mb RAM 36-bin (72-pin) 70ns or faster
I got a whole bag of RAM. What do you have to trade for? Garl -Original Message- From: Marc Baber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]Wanted: 32Mb RAM 36-bin (72-pin) 70ns or faster I was abhorred to find that my father is still running his old Micron (Win95) on 16Mb of RAM total. I'd like to bump his system up to 128 Mb, but would have to do that with 4 32-Mb SIMMs, so if anyone out there has same and wants to unload them cheap or trade for something, I'd be grateful (and so would my folks) Thank you, Marc -- Marc Baber [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bot Works, Inc. http://www.botworks.com P.O. Box 12057 Phone: 541-485-8446 Eugene, OR 97440 FAX: 541-485-8446 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]root RedHat
Unless the bootloader is password protected you could just boot into single user mode and change the password. Other than that, probably the easiest way would be to use a bootable linux distro (knoppix, linux toolkit, etc) and edit /etc/shadow (most linux distro's use shadow password files). Garl -Original Message- From: Mr O [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]root RedHat What's the quickest way to root a RedHat box? Boot off a rescue CD or bootable distro and edit /etc/passwd? What do I change? Do I change the values associated with root's password or can I just simply reset the root and/or user passwords? Thanx. Mr O. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Crackers of the world crumble
http://www.globalshareware.com/Utilities/Security-Encryption/Advanced-Office-XP-Password-Recovery-prof.htm I have access to this somewhere. -Original Message- From: Bob Crandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:26 PM To: Eugene Linux Users Group Subject: [eug-lug]Crackers of the world crumble Hi, I have a *.mdb and *.mdw database file from a closed source program that I need to get the data from in order to import into another program. There is an administrator password required. How do I get this data out? Thanks -- Bob Crandell Assured Computing When you need to be sure. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.assuredcomp.com Voice - 541-689-9159 FAX - 541-463-1627 Eugene, Oregon ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]computers/laptops forsale...
I also have 2 prism wireless cards (which I havnt yet gotten working in these laptops except under windows... ) What cards are they and how much do you want? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]hotmail censorship
I used to have [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used it to as a place to send system logs to for a linux firewall I had setup. I liked the irony of using a hotmail account for a linux system. Garl -Original Message- From: Mr O [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]hotmail censorship As I was killing Windows today I discovered something I failed to mention earlier. I was trying to get a hotmail address to run Messenger so there was more crap on the system. One little problem, you can't use the word spam in any shape or form in an email address. They just don't allow it. Even if you wanted [EMAIL PROTECTED] you couldn't get it. I tried for evilspammer and Iamaspammonkey with no luck. So, there you have it. M$ censorship at it's finest. Now I wonder if you can use the word linux in your email address :) Thankfully the one and only, Mr O. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCSI vs. ATA vs. IDE raid for 1 TB storage array
snip latest firmware with the card then things tend to work better. /snip See the thing is when you are setting up a core service, like email hosting, you do not want things to work better, you want them to work flawlessly. I don't mind messing around with things like IDE raid on a workstation, as long as it is not a critical one, but when it comes to something that has to work all of the time, then you go with a time tested and trusted solution. SCSI raid has been around for a long time and it works very, very well. SCSI disks are built better than their IDE counterparts. Yes they cost a lot more per GB, but you get what you pay for. These disks will be seeing a lot of use. They will be on 24/7/365 for 5 years under steady use. Larry said he was looking for a system that would be useable for 5 years with near zero downtime. That means you go with the most reliable components you can. Will it cost more? Of course. Now if he had said, we need 95% uptime, then maybe bringing the system down to replace IDE disks would be OK. Sorry, if I seem to be beating this to death, but as far as I am concerned IDE is not an option. I've seen too many IDE drives die (remember the IBM 75GXP?) to trust them on something like a mail server. Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCSI vs. ATA vs. IDE raid for 1 TB storage array
I guess there are a few questions I would ask before I answered. 1) What is your budget? 2) How many users? 3) What OS/Platform are you going to host this on? 4) What are your uptime requirements? 5) What time frame are you looking at? Garl -Original Message- From: Larry Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]SCSI vs. ATA vs. IDE raid for 1 TB storage array We have an argument going here in the office regarding how to spec a storage array for a high volume, low-latency production server that would need to hold and serve approximately 1-3 TB of maildirs (lots of small files being sought by people who get cranky when they are noticeably slow in arriving) the basic argument is about ata-raid vs. scsi It looks like there are a __lot__ of people trying to sell ata-raid right now, the question is would that work for our application Figured I would ask the knowledgeable and opinionated ( I'll let you know when I find the list of knowledgable people ;)_ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]SCSI vs. ATA vs. IDE raid for 1 TB storage array
From what you have told me, I would say that SCSI is definitely the way to go for a number of reasons. 1) Reliability. SCSI disks tend to be built to a better standard. Most SCSI disks come with either a 4 or 5 year warranty for a reason. They last forever ( have got 8 year old Seagate SCSI disks that are still going today). Most IDE disks are coming with a 1 year warranty (The high end versions are coming with 3). 2) Uptime. I have yet to see an Native IDE system that allowed reliable hot swapping of drives. SATA may offer this, but I wouldn't rely on it for a system that you need to last for 3-5 years. It is still to new of a system. 3) Complexity. IDE busses allow for two drives per channel. Ultra320 allows for 14 (15-1 for the controller card). Fewer cables, fewer cards, less of a mess to wire. If you really want to save money you can go with IDE over SCSI. I have no personal experience with this but from what I have read, they are OK. They are considerably slower than native SCSI, but they seem to work. There sure are enough people selling them. 4) Performance. Ultra320 drives are expensive but they have excellent transfer rates and access times. As for the drives I would recommend either the Seagate Cheetah or the Maxtor Atlas. Both run fairly cool and are very, very, very reliable. You are after VERY high performance go with the 15k drives, but you will new a bunch of them. I think the largest 15k drive that is currently available is a 73Gb. They make 147Gb drives but only in the 10k versions. Whatever you do make sure you go with 64bit controllers, hardware raid, lots of cache memory, and make sure you have redundant, hotswapable everything. If you can't hotswap it, it WILL fail. Hope that helps. Garl On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 03:33 PM, Grigsby, Garl wrote: I guess there are a few questions I would ask before I answered. 1) What is your budget? $10k USD 2) How many users? approximately 5000 3) What OS/Platform are you going to host this on? freebsd 4) What are your uptime requirements? Maximal, this a core service, and needs to be bulletproof. I would be extremely happy if we didn't have to reboot it for anything less than a kernel upgrade. 5) What time frame are you looking at? between 3-6 months for fielding it, with an effective service life of 3-5 years (if we outgrow it in 3 years we'll be happy ;-) Garl -Original Message- From: Larry Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]SCSI vs. ATA vs. IDE raid for 1 TB storage array We have an argument going here in the office regarding how to spec a storage array for a high volume, low-latency production server that would need to hold and serve approximately 1-3 TB of maildirs (lots of small files being sought by people who get cranky when they are noticeably slow in arriving) the basic argument is about ata-raid vs. scsi It looks like there are a __lot__ of people trying to sell ata-raid right now, the question is would that work for our application Figured I would ask the knowledgeable and opinionated ( I'll let you know when I find the list of knowledgable people ;)_ ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug This is a Signature: Someday soon it will have clever sayings and URL's ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]how to kill an immortal process | release a port binding
I believe that 'ps -elf' will give you the WCHAN field. I know it does on Solaris 8 and 9, but I don't have access to 6. If you need top you can get it from www.sunfreeware.com. Don't worry that it is listed as beta. It has been beta for as long as I can remember. Where is the binary for this 'immortal' process? I have seen processes on Sun that are impossible to kill if they are running off of an NFS share and the share is no longer available. If you have NFS shares, make sure that they are all still alive. Good luck. Garl -Original Message- From: Bob Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:55 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]how to kill an immortal process | release a port binding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a process that cannot be killed by 'kill -9 PID' You're screwed. You're going to have to reboot. But before you do, there is some more info you can collect. First, is the process using CPU time? You don't have top, but you can run ps twice several seconds apart and see whether the CPU time has increased. Second, what is the process blocked on? I don't have access to a Solaris system, but most Unices have a ps option that displays the WCHAN field. The WCHAN is the address of a kernel data structure that a process is blocked waiting on. Find out what the WCHAN is. Maybe (probably not) you can find someone else who's holding the WCHAN and kill that process instead. Try different ps options to find WCHAN. I think there is an alternate ps program on Solaris in /usr/ucb/ps or somewhere, too. Try that too. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000
What model number is the machine? I have spent WAY to much time dealing with this machines. You may not have a vga connector, but you should have a video connector that looks like the attached image. These tend to be fixed frequencies video cards that require special monitors (if you need on I might have one). As for other info, what do you want? Garl -Original Message- From: Mr O [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 Anybody have experience with IBM RISC System/6000 machines? I have one I'm working on that appears to have a PS/2 keyboard and mouse as I'd expect since IBM introduced the standard but no visible VGA connection. I do have 25 pin connections perhaps for an old terminal and plenty of SCSI. Do these just plug into a backbone? I'll take any info I can get. Thanks. Mr O. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000
Never mind. I found which one it is. The Type 7013's were server chassis and they don't look like they usually came with video. The Model 595 has the following stats: Model IDMachine TypeProcessor Speed Architecture 89 7013-595135P2SC The P2SC (Power2 Super Chip) was a 32bit chip. I would guess the machine was probably put into service in the around 98. This was one of their last 32 bit servers. After that they went to the 64bit chips. Looks like it probably had 128 Mb of RAM standard and it most likely tops out at 2Gb. The SCSI buss is SCSI2 and I am almost possitive that the NIC is 10 MBit. That help any? Garl -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:57 PM To: 'The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list' Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 Does the back of it look like the attached photo? (sorry for the poor picture, it was all i could come up with quickly). Garl -Original Message- From: Mr O [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:22 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 The beast in question is an IBM RISC System/6000 (595). That's off the front badge. The rear panel only tells me Type: 7013 and the weight. At 117 lbs. I'm leaving it grounded until I know more. Mr O. --- Grigsby, Garl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What model number is the machine? I have spent WAY to much time dealing with this machines. You may not have a vga connector, but you should have a video connector that looks like the attached image. These tend to be fixed frequencies video cards that require special monitors (if you need on I might have one). As for other info, what do you want? Garl __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000
ACK! http://www2.ibmlink.ibm.com/cgi-bin/master?xh=dnpXNPaQ*s0eJz0USenGnF9332request=salesmanualparms=H%5f7013%2d595xhi=salesmanual%5exfr=F -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:23 PM To: Grigsby, Garl; 'The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list' Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 Here is a good link describing the box. Garl -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:22 PM To: Grigsby, Garl; 'The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list' Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 Never mind. I found which one it is. The Type 7013's were server chassis and they don't look like they usually came with video. The Model 595 has the following stats: Model IDMachine TypeProcessor Speed Architecture 89 7013-595135P2SC The P2SC (Power2 Super Chip) was a 32bit chip. I would guess the machine was probably put into service in the around 98. This was one of their last 32 bit servers. After that they went to the 64bit chips. Looks like it probably had 128 Mb of RAM standard and it most likely tops out at 2Gb. The SCSI buss is SCSI2 and I am almost possitive that the NIC is 10 MBit. That help any? Garl -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:57 PM To: 'The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list' Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 Does the back of it look like the attached photo? (sorry for the poor picture, it was all i could come up with quickly). Garl -Original Message- From: Mr O [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:22 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 The beast in question is an IBM RISC System/6000 (595). That's off the front badge. The rear panel only tells me Type: 7013 and the weight. At 117 lbs. I'm leaving it grounded until I know more. Mr O. --- Grigsby, Garl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What model number is the machine? I have spent WAY to much time dealing with this machines. You may not have a vga connector, but you should have a video connector that looks like the attached image. These tend to be fixed frequencies video cards that require special monitors (if you need on I might have one). As for other info, what do you want? Garl __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000
Here is a good link describing the box. Garl -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:22 PM To: Grigsby, Garl; 'The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list' Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 Never mind. I found which one it is. The Type 7013's were server chassis and they don't look like they usually came with video. The Model 595 has the following stats: Model IDMachine TypeProcessor Speed Architecture 89 7013-595135P2SC The P2SC (Power2 Super Chip) was a 32bit chip. I would guess the machine was probably put into service in the around 98. This was one of their last 32 bit servers. After that they went to the 64bit chips. Looks like it probably had 128 Mb of RAM standard and it most likely tops out at 2Gb. The SCSI buss is SCSI2 and I am almost possitive that the NIC is 10 MBit. That help any? Garl -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:57 PM To: 'The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list' Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 Does the back of it look like the attached photo? (sorry for the poor picture, it was all i could come up with quickly). Garl -Original Message- From: Mr O [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:22 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]video on an IBM RISC/6000 The beast in question is an IBM RISC System/6000 (595). That's off the front badge. The rear panel only tells me Type: 7013 and the weight. At 117 lbs. I'm leaving it grounded until I know more. Mr O. --- Grigsby, Garl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What model number is the machine? I have spent WAY to much time dealing with this machines. You may not have a vga connector, but you should have a video connector that looks like the attached image. These tend to be fixed frequencies video cards that require special monitors (if you need on I might have one). As for other info, what do you want? Garl __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Cloning a web site
http://www.httrack.com/index.php -Original Message- From: Ken Barber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:05 PM To: Eugene Linux Users List Subject: [eug-lug]Cloning a web site Hi, I'm trying to clone a website (with the owner's permission) and wget isn't working correctly (could it have something to do with the fact that it's hosted on AOL? hmmm). I seem to recall the existence of another tool (other than wget) to copy web sites but I cannot for the life of me remember its name. Any suggestions? Thanx, Ken ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]thermal paste, anyone? AMD XP experience?
The small square of material you see on the heat sink is all you need. This is a type of heat transfer compound know as a Phase Change Material. This stuff eliminates the need for the grease and tends to work much, much better. You only need a the small square because there is only a small area of the processor that will be touching the heatsink. As to replacing the heatsink, the stock heatsink will do fine as long as a) you have adequate airflow in your case, b) you aren't going to overclock the processor, and c) you aren't overly touchy about the noise level. Some of the AMD heatsink/fan combos have been a touch noisy. Garl -Original Message- From: Ben Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]thermal paste, anyone? AMD XP experience? Does anyone have some extra thermal compound to spare? I just got a new AMD processor, retail boxed version. I think I need this type of paste or compound, but I also see a bit about the heatsink having a bit of heat-transfer material, but it is a small square. Does anyone here know if I should use it as is, add a thin (but complete) smear of compound, or suggest that I use a different heatsink/cpu fan altogether? I'm upgrading an older board, which is supposed to handle that cpu... my poor workstation ( = thanks in advance! Ben B ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]thermal paste, anyone? AMD XP experience?
Thanks Garl! Do you know if I'll be able to pry the adhesive apart later if I decide it is too loud or that I need to overclock? (-8 Yes, though you may need to clean the processor with some denatured alcohol. PS - Is a decent case fan plus the power supply fan sufficient in most cases? This was built for AMD, so I'm hoping I don't have a meltdown, but I don't have a temperature sensor AFAIK... = / Depends on a) the case, b) the fan in the case, c) the power supply, and d) the thermal load on the case (how much stuff you have in your case). On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:52:56 -0400 Grigsby, Garl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The small square of material you see on the heat sink is all you need. | This is a type of heat transfer compound know as a Phase Change | Material. This stuff eliminates the need for the grease and tends to | work much, much better. You only need a the small square because there | is only a small area of the processor that will be touching the | heatsink. | | As to replacing the heatsink, the stock heatsink will do fine as long | as a) you have adequate airflow in your case, b) you aren't going to | overclock the processor, and c) you aren't overly touchy about the | noise level. Some of the AMD heatsink/fan combos have been a touch | noisy. | | Garl | | -Original Message- | From: Ben Barrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:43 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [eug-lug]thermal paste, anyone? AMD XP experience? | | | Does anyone have some extra thermal compound to spare? I | just got a new | AMD processor, retail boxed version. I think I need this | type of paste | or compound, but I also see a bit about the heatsink having a bit of | heat-transfer material, but it is a small square. | | Does anyone here know if I should use it as is, add a thin (but | complete) smear of compound, or suggest that I use a different | heatsink/cpu fan altogether? I'm upgrading an older board, which is | supposed to handle that cpu... my poor workstation ( = | | thanks in advance! | | Ben B | | ___ | EuG-LUG mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug | | | ___ | EuG-LUG mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wiki
I just want to repeat, you really, really, REALLY, don't want to lick that link; likcing links is bad for your health. Remeber, think before you lick, because the lick you save maybe your very own. Wow, that was rediculous -Original Message- From: Roger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:14 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Wiki Around Thu,Jun 12 2003, at 05:35, Grigsby, Garl, wrote: Whatever you do, don't lick on the link. You have been warned. Well, If you licked it, there's no way I'm going to lick the link. roger -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] From /usr/bin/fortune: The curse of the Irish is not that they don't know the words to a song -- it's that they know them *all*. -- Susan Dooley ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wiki
I haven't read ./ for a long time. Don't have the time anymore. As to the content of the image, I have been forced to scrap my minds eye out with a spoon... -Original Message- From: Larry Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:38 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Wiki Ah, yes, garl, you must not have spent much time reading slashdot at low moderation levels, goatse links have been known to have rather extreme effects on people causing them to forswear computers, and in at least one instance, vision. think of it as direct evidence that Graphical computing has it's downside On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 05:11 PM, Grigsby, Garl wrote: Bob, Somebody trashed the site and put a link to a, uh, very questionable image. I went back in the history and put the origonal front page back. Look at the Info botton at the bottom of the page and you will see that somebody from .jp messed with the page. I just went back and did a diff to the origonal page and copy-n-pasted it back. The 'trashed' page is below, minus the link. Trust me, you don't want to see it Garl 8===D~~ O-: http://XX.cx/X.jpg love, #klined (efnet), wiki terrorists -Original Message- From: Bob Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:45 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Wiki Tim Howe wrote: I am very sad. The wiki seems to have been destroyed. I am very confused. The wiki seems to be at http://wiki.euglug.NET/ and just as out of date as ever. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug This is a Signature: Someday soon it will have clever sayings and URL's ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wiki
Whatever you do, don't lick on the link. You have been warned. -Original Message- From: Tim Howe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]Wiki I am very sad. The wiki seems to have been destroyed. --TimH ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wiki
There, that is better -Original Message- From: Grigsby, Garl Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:35 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]Wiki Whatever you do, don't lick on the link. You have been warned. -Original Message- From: Tim Howe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]Wiki I am very sad. The wiki seems to have been destroyed. --TimH ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Wiki
Bob, Somebody trashed the site and put a link to a, uh, very questionable image. I went back in the history and put the origonal front page back. Look at the Info botton at the bottom of the page and you will see that somebody from .jp messed with the page. I just went back and did a diff to the origonal page and copy-n-pasted it back. The 'trashed' page is below, minus the link. Trust me, you don't want to see it Garl 8===D~~ O-: http://XX.cx/X.jpg love, #klined (efnet), wiki terrorists -Original Message- From: Bob Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:45 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Wiki Tim Howe wrote: I am very sad. The wiki seems to have been destroyed. I am very confused. The wiki seems to be at http://wiki.euglug.NET/ and just as out of date as ever. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]FreeBSD
So today I decided I wanted to try FreeBSD (time to tinker...). My first stop is to try to get it from linuxiso.org, but they appear to be down :(. Then I remember that TimH had it on the bendug ftp server. The only problem is the FreeBSD files are not world readable. ( TimH - You about? ) So now that my first two choices are unavailable to me, does anybody know a fast FreeBSD mirror? Garl === Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE FEMAP Support --- EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com === -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- === ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]FreeBSD
I will probably install it several times before I get comfortable with it so it is easier to have it on CD. Anybody know what the three different images are for? Garl -Original Message- From: Cory Petkovsek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:13 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]FreeBSD On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:01:12PM -0400, Grigsby, Garl wrote: So today I decided I wanted to try FreeBSD (time to tinker...). My first stop is to try to get it from linuxiso.org, but they appear to be down :(. Then I remember that TimH had it on the bendug ftp server. The only problem is the FreeBSD files are not world readable. ( TimH - You about? ) So now that my first two choices are unavailable to me, does anybody know a fast FreeBSD mirror? Garl Garl, why don't you download the floppy images from freebsd.com and then install over da net? Then there's also freebsd's list of mirrors: http://www.freebsdmirrors.org http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirr ors-ftp.html#MIRRORS-US ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]FreeBSD
That's where I started. First couple I tried I got rather poor results. 1st one was down, and the second and third ones were giving me rather low transfer rates. G -Original Message- From: E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:17 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]FreeBSD Try the FreeBSD site, there are plenty of solid mirrors on there. Ed --- Grigsby, Garl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So today I decided I wanted to try FreeBSD (time to tinker...). My first stop is to try to get it from linuxiso.org, but they appear to be down :(. Then I remember that TimH had it on the bendug ftp server. The only problem is the FreeBSD files are not world readable. ( TimH - You about? ) So now that my first two choices are unavailable to me, does anybody know a fast FreeBSD mirror? Garl == = Garl R. Grigsby Senior Customer Applications Engineer - I-DEAS CAE FEMAP Support -- - EDS PLM Solutions Phone: (800) 955- Global Technical Access Center FAX: (541) 342-8277 1750 Willow Creek Circle Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene, OR 97402 Internet: http://support.plms-eds.com == = -FEA makes a good engineer great, and a poor engineer dangerous- == = ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]FreeBSD
That's exactly what I was looking for... Thanks. It was available via bittorrent a couple of days ago. Maybe it still is. http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/09/1657219 http://f.scarywater.net/ http://glow.rh.rit.edu/ -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Re: Fun with routers II
Perhaps, Perhaps. -Original Message- From: Beaker (Jeff W) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]Re: Fun with routers II * you can use a hosts file in Winblows as well (c:\windows\hosts) on NT, 2k, or XP that would be C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts Actually, mine is as stated on 2k - perhaps it doesn't matter? -Beaker ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Think I'll stick around this is getting interesting
Wow, a Pentium Pro, anybody got a skillet and some eggs (I hear it doubles as a hotplate.) snip You think 1 PPro is hot, try two. One of the RH8 boxes we have here is running a Dual PPro 200. The motherboard, an ASUS p65up5, is so crammed with stuff that they has to put the voltage regulator and the CPUs on a full length daughter board. The problem is that the daughter board plugs in at the very top of the motherboard so it is jammed up against to bottom of the PS and the drive bays and gets little or no clean air flow. It is a terrible design but works ok as long as it is in an air-conditioned room. Other than that minor design flaw, I love the board. It has 8 SIMM slots (up to a max of 512 MB), 5 PCI, and 3 ISA slots. It is not much now, but when we first got it, wow. Even now it is unbelievably stable and works well for what I use it for. And it is just crammed with stuff. I has three IDE drives in it, a video card, two SCSI cards, and a cd drive. Connected to the two SCSI busses are 10 hdd drives and a DLT drive. I have been scrounging parts for this system for two years. When we retire something I usually strip it bare and put the parts wherever I can use them. snip I appreciate what you had to say Garl. snip I just wanted to provide another point of view, and I am glad to see it helped. http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/visualize0603.asp Thanks for the article. I found it very interesting, in fact a coworker and I were just discussing something along this line last week. Good timing. Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case
about the coolness factor, but are they safe? Also, acrylic is so brittle! Gah... And it scratches so easily. My question: what is the cheapest way to *quietly* make a system cool? Since you mentioned cheap, then water-cooling is out. After that you are stuck with some form of air cooling. If you want it quite, then go with big fans. Also mount your hard drives and or cddrives on rubber isolators. Couple of weeks ago I build a Athlon XP 3000 in an Antec Sonata Case (http://www.antec-inc.com/pro_details_enclosure.php?ProdID=15138). Instead of having 4 or 5 80mm fans this case has 2 120mm Fans and then 1 80m min the power supply. The hard drives also mount on rubber grommets so the vibration of the hard drive is not transmitted into the case. I replaced the stock 120mm fan (that was much quieter than 2 80mm fans) with 2 Antec SmartFans. These fans have thermisters in them (a type of temperature dependent resistor) that causes the fan to move more air as the case gets warmer (so when it is not working really hard it is very, very quiet). The system was so quiet that the only way you could tell it was on, when it was under the desk, was to see if the light was on. Not only was it quiet but it was very efficient. Once you quite the case down, then you can start to focus the CPU heatsink. There are a number of good quality heatsinks that are fairly quiet. The Thermalright SLK-900u is supposed to be very efficient and very quiet, but a bit expensive. It uses a larger fan (92mm) to help reduce the noise and a good heatsink design to make it efficeint.(http://www.thermalright.com/slk900.html). Zalman also makes a number of very quiet heatsinks but they require a bit more tinkering to get them to work right. (http://www.zalmanusa.com/) I good place to start looking at quieting a PC would be Silent PC Review (http://www.silentpcreview.com/). The do decent reviews of quiet pc related products. I'd love to [eventually] get a nice watercooler, in fact I've been thinking that one nice watercooling system might be adapted to cool a handful of systems or even a small cluster? Is this safe? I suppose for multiple systems, a failover would be appropriate. The biggest problem with water cooling is failure. If you loose the pump, your system is toast. If you have a leak, your system is toast. And on this note, does anyone know exactly how harmful *not* using a case at all might be? The case is there to protect the computer from you, to provide some EMI shielding, and to provide proper cooling. You need air moving across your system to keep the components cool. If the metal box is indeed as important as I think (for protecting both ourselves and our computers) then said water-cooled minicluster might be housed inside an old washing machine or something. Maybe I should just plan on building it inside a used, working fridge? = ) Can I put the storage array in the freezer? Sheesh, maybe the whole thing should be built in a box-freezer... One word: Condensation. Wet electronics are bad. That is also the biggest problem with using peltier devices. They tend to cool the processor so much that you end up with condensation. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]hardware junkies: acrylic case
Meanwhile, Mr. O and Co. graciously built me a new system inside an Antec Sonata two weeks ago. I like it a lot, though it looks like it wasn't the easiest case Mr. O has ever populated. Really? I thought Sonata was very easy to work with, given you thought ahead and got long, round IDE or SCSI cables. Flat cables would have really sucked. Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]A RedHat'r responds....
snip PS - I guess all the redhat support is too busy with their loyal corporate backers to help on the mailing list... snip Where are the Redhat'rs on this list you ask? I can only speak for myself, but I have been busy working to earn a living so that I can provide for my family (and yes I work for a big corporation). As to the 'religious war' that has been going on, I will take a minute and stand up for Redhat. Redhat as a company has done a lot for the Linux community from providing personnel (as Bob pointed out ... Cygnus) and hardware (I doubt the Kernel programmers could afford to by a 8 processor Itanium server on their own without the help of companies like HP, IBM, Oracle, Intel, and Redhat) to Open Source effort to bringing a lot of new users to the Linux family. They have also done a lot to bring Linux to the Corporate Server room and to the Corporate Desktop (I doubt corporate users like Ford, GE, Thiokol, Lockheed Martin, NASA, and the like could take the time to build each workstation and server from scratch. With a system like Redhat they can use Linux quite effectively and think how many new users are getting exposed to Linux.). Many have said that Redhat's worst crime is that they are trying to dumb down Linux, but I think that is important for many, if not most, users. If we really want to see Linux as a whole thrive (and take on Windows) then Linux needs to be more accessible to the average Tom, Dick, and Harriet. I can tell you right now that many potential users out there would never be able to install Debian, nor would they want to. Most users, outside of geekland, see a computer as a tool, not a toy or a playground. They use it to accomplish a task, be it sending email, balancing their check book, or fragging a friend. The would rather spend their time using the computer than maintaining it. They are not willing to spend hours reading man pages or HowTos; They are not going to try a plethora of different options to get a lilo, a sound card, or X to work. They are not going to try to figure out how to patch and rebuild the kernel. They are not going to try rebuilding a graphics driver to get it to work with the latest game or app. They want a system that works, one that they can configure using easy to understand forms and GUI's. They don't care that they might be missing a subtle option or two. They just want it to work. Windows may not be the most stable OS in the world, and Microsoft might be a rather nasty company, but Windows is a easy fairly easy to maintain OS. (Yes I am aware you can't do as muc! h with it, but how many people really need the ability to run a ftp, web, mail, and a dns server?). Hell even my mom can keep her Windows machine running on her own. Now there will always be those people who want to be able to get 'under the hood' and tinker. I confess that I am one of them. But I will also admit that I like having the ability to change the acceleration on my mouse without having to edit a config file. I like the fact that the installation of Redhat can be as easy or as complex as I need it to be. If I want to, I can install Redhat with only a few clicks of my mouse by choosing a predefined layout or I can spend a fair amount of time configuring the system exactly the way I want. Have I used other distros? Yes, and I have not settled on one. I currently use Redhat for several servers at work and am more than happy with them. I have a Redhat 7.1 box that has been running, with only limited attention, since the middle of 2001. I will occasionally get on there and apply a patch or two, but that is it. And the system is usually working rather hard to boot (Load average is usually around .7). It presently runs a FTP server, a Web server, a BigBrother server, and two JAVA network monitoring apps on a Pentium Pro 200 with 196 Mb of Ram. I have second 7.1 box that has been running about the same length of time that runs a proxy server, a YP server, and a instant messaging server, again with little or no maintenance. I have a 7.0 box that has been running since late 2000. This system runs a NFS and Samba server, again with little or no interaction. I also have two Redhat 8.0 boxes. One is a file server (I upgraded it from Redhat 6 because I wanted to use a JF! S, and because it was so damn outdated). The other sets on my desk next to my HPUX workstation and my Windows Workstation (I see each OS as having it's advantages). I also run Mandrake and Knoppix. Currently I have version 9 on my Dell Laptop and I run Knoppix on my machine at home. Have I tried other distros? Yes, in the past I have used Storm Linux, Debian, FreeBSD, Knoppix, Suse, and Slackware, but I found them all to be lacking in one way or another. Does this mean I will never try them again? No. I like playing with Linux. Hell I am trying to find a way to get my hands on a Mac so I can tinker with OS X. I love the idea of a clean, well thought
RE: [eug-lug]Fun with Routers
Not sure if anybody mentioned this yet or not, but the Dialing out section on the router is probably for a DSL line. I would really doubt it there was a way to connect an external analog modem to your router. The static IP is most certainly the answer. Most of the router/switches I have seen have a way of turning off the built in DHCP server. That might save you a world of pain. -Original Message- From: BAGGAB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:40 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]Fun with Routers Cory The SMC Barricade does have setting for dialing out to an ISP (that is: you can set the user name, password, and other controls in the router) through an UI that is brought up on a browser. Its pretty full featured. I will look over what you wrote. I am certain that static IPs are the answer. As you said this is an investment in time for understanding. I do understand that I am switching and not routing the two computers. I am sure you got it right, between the DHCP in the router and the DHCP in the client computers, IPs are messed up. I really appreciate the time you took in detailing. I will get back to you in a couple of days with what I've figured out. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cory Petkovsek Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:37 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Fun with Routers On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:11:47PM -0700, BAGGAB wrote: I have been playing with my Koppix / RH dual boot. It's spelled knoppix and pronounced k-nop-ix. I finally concluded that the SMC Barricade router I am using is confusing the networking setup under Linux. Example: modem works fine till I hook up the router; then OS looks to router rather then modem. Your smc router probably has a dhcp server in it, and you probably have a dhcp client on your linux box, and the server is probably reconfiguring your client's ip address and it is probably also setting your default route: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 00 eth0 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.10.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 Setup: 2 PC's and a common KVM switch, 4 port router connecting 2 netgear NICs (2 ports empty,) nothing connected to WAN port (this worked when I had DSL, so its o.k.,) modem port (this works with USR external 56K modem: windows o.k., Linux has problems that can be solved with router / modem reset, but return after a few minutes.) I get lost on all Linux conditions (need a diagram and truth table to make my point.) Gave up on common Internet from modem through router to computers. This can be done, but is not plug and play. Your router probably is plug and play, however your router cannot dial the modem for your isp. You'd have the same problem with windows. I now have a USR external 56K modem to each computer. I am trying, at least, to get the computers talking under Linux through the router. Ready to take axe to it! They should be able to talk to each other. For the record I doubt that you are actually routing between the two computers. You probably have a switch/router. The switch portion are the 4 ports, the router portion is the wan uplink. If you had something there, then you would actually be routing across two different ip networks. You should configure your workstation network settings to use static ip addresses. Use 192.168.0.100 and 192.168.0.101 for your two workstations. Then try pinging from one to the other: ping 192.168.0.100 Comment: under windows this works. Windows dumbs things down, where Linux's sophistication requires network tweaking. No, it just needs understanding. Windows is simpler and can be easier to understand for some things. However it can do less. Problem: can I use a simple crossover cable till I sort this out? Yes, but I doubt this will fix your problem. Once you have your ips straight, the switch should work just fine. Conclusion: I know what your thinking: I don't know - why don't you try it bonehead. I am heading to the garage to get it now. Connection sharing requires you to setup one of your linux boxes as a firewall/router. This is not an easy task to do it manually. I can do it easily because I've invested a lot of time to figure it out. There are, however distributions that have simple tools that set it up for you. I'm pretty sure redhat has one, however I don't know where it is. You can also use a dedicated firewall distro such as shorewall. http://www.shorewall.net/ Here are your steps: - Properly setup your ip addresses. Use static and 192.168.0.100 / 101. Test with ping. - Setup one machine to be able to connect to the internet (192.168.0.100) - Setup that same
RE: [eug-lug]Mission accomplished
With regard to your sound card, if you are still using Redhat try running using the sndconfig command. You can launch this either from an icon (Under the System Settings Icon, labeled SoundCard Detection) or by typing sndconfig from a shell as root. You can also run setup from a root shell. This will give you a curses menu of several different command line config tools (firewall, authentication, keyboard, sound card, etc). -Original Message- From: BAGGAB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:33 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]Mission accomplished Jamie Its an on-board type card. My two Motherboards are very similar MSI boards. The soundcard is something like a crystal fusion. One board works fine under RH 8.0, the other board sees the card but no sound (tried turning on the sound server, ect.) I would like to get the sound working so I can listen to oggs while I code. I am having lots of success do to the LUG's help. I just got the router working thanks to Cory and Bob. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Linux Rocks ! Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:20 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Mission accomplished A quick fix to the sound. as root try: modprobe sb sb is the generic SoundBlaster module, it works with many cards. To get sound working with your sound card, you will first need to know which sound card it is, then either load the module for it, or re-compile your kernel with support for that card. Jamie On Tuesday 03 June 2003 01:59 pm, BAGGAB wrote: : After our discussion about distros I have implemented this solution. : : Loaded Koppix 3.2 and Red Hat 8.0 in dual boot config. : : Conclusion: this is a balance between two ends of the spectrum of Linux : distros (for me the novice.) : : On going problems: sound card not working under either (worked under : windows), still tweaking modem under Kopppix. : : I will play some, then come back with some questions. : : Thanks to all for your input! : : ___ : EuG-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Audience: What will become of Linux when the Hurd is ready? Eric Youngdale: Err... is Richard Stallman here? -- From the Linux conference in spring '95, Berlin ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [eug-lug]Fun with routers II
ipconfig is a NT command. You wanted ifconfig. -Original Message- From: BAGGAB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:15 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]Fun with routers II Bob I can't find this file. Run: search for ipconfig from / Am I searching the whole computer here. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Miller Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:25 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]Fun with routers II BAGGAB wrote: I would ask if there is an equivalent to winipcfg.exe in RH 8.0 or Knoppix 3.2 so I can see if I can release the ip's from there. Winipcfg is a ripoff of Unix's ipconfig. It's been around since the early 1980s. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Problems with kppp on Redhat
snip Problem: when I want to logon to internet I use KPPP, but I have to provide my root password for permission. I am concerned about running root permissions while connected to the internet. With all the warnings about operating under root I am assuming that this is a user implemented problem (self inflicted wound.) snip PAM is what is requiring the root password to access kppp. You can change this by editing the /etc/pam.d/kppp file. Change this line: auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rootok.so to auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_permit.so Hope that helps. Garl ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [Eug-lug]Palms and ebooks
I don't have one but I recall seeing a few on clearance at Target for only a few bucks, I think because they were serial and not USB. Check in the electronics section on the end caps furthest from the center of the store Garl -Original Message- From: Master O Planets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 6:54 PM To: Eug-LUG Subject: [Eug-lug]Palms and ebooks I recently inherited a palm III, but with out the cradle. Anyone have a spare or low cost Palm III cradle or sync cable. I just want to play around with syncing with RH. For a long time I had given up on ebooks because I couldn't find any free sources. I finally found http://etext.virginia.edu/ebooks/ebooklist.html I would be interested in how a ebook is built. ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [Eug-lug]knoppix version 3.1
Q: What is the root password? A: There is none; all passwords are locked by default. You can set it by going Knoppix Menu-Root Shell and typing passwd, then enterting a root password, also there are several sections you can read dealing with this subject in KNOPPIX/README_Security.txt. You can also type sudo su or sudo -s in any console window, or use ctr-alt-F2 to get at the text console with already opened root shell. Apparently, however, in some versions of Knoppix, if you type 'sudo -s', it will ask for a password. If you simply press return without entering anything, it will tell you 'Authentication Failed. http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/FaqUsing -Original Message- From: Kent Loobey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Eug-lug]knoppix version 3.1 I picked up a copy of Knoppix version 3.1 the other day. Can anyone tell me what the root password for it is? Thanks. ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [Eug-lug]Nifty Laptop for sale with ALL the fix'ns
Ok. Enough is Enough. I think you have sent this ad to the list plenty of times. Posting the same ad over and over is not going to make anybody buy the laptop. In fact it will probably just aggravate people. Also, just as a friendly suggestion, you may want to check the accuracy of your information before you post it to the list, for example, you list the following: Memory configuration: 160MB 2 - 128MB PC-1 00 SDRAM module Last time I checked 128 x 2 is 256, not 160.. ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [Eug-lug]Nifty Laptop for sale with ALL the fix'ns
Title: [Eug-lug]Nifty Laptop for sale with ALL the fix'ns wow. 8.5 feet wide. That must suck to try to find a place to work.. -Original Message-From: Harald Sundt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:37 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Eug-lug]Nifty Laptop for sale with ALL the fix'ns Excalibur LT300SpecificationStructure:Based on ChemBook 301 5 SeriesDimension Weight:102" (W) x 12.7" (D) x 1.5" (H) weighing 6.1 lbs with FDD and batterypack).LCD Display Panel:14.1" Active Matrix TFT LCD Display PanelCPU:Intel Celeron Mobile Module MMC-2 with 32KB internal cache, 256KB full speed L2 cacheChipset:Intel 82440BX PIIX4 chipsetDual channel UItraDMA/33 bus mastering IDE controllerMemory Subsystem:2 SODIMM banks supporting up to 512MB of unbuffered PC-1 00 SDRAMMemory configuration:160MB2 - 128MB PC-1 00 SDRAM moduleGraphic Subsystem:ATI 3D Rage Mobility-P 1 28-bit graphic accelerator, 8MB SGRAM standard, resolution up to 1 280 x 1 024Hard Disk Subsystem:IBM Travelstar 12GB 6.0GB Ultra DMA/66 drive, 66MB/s, 512K cache,8.5mm highSCSI Subsystem: Adaptec SLIM SCSI PCI CardCD-ROM Subsystem: Removable 24X CDROMExtras* Dual Ethernet 100/Modem 56k PCI Card* Spare Battery Pack* SuSE 8.1 installed* Open Office 1.0.1
RE: [Eug-lug]X on startup
I always use a utility called chkconfig. It allows you to specify a service, a runlevel, and setups up all of the rc links. Nice. Forexmaple: chkconfig --level 345 smb on would setup samba to start on runlevel 3, 4, or 5. I know that this is easy to do, but it cuts down on typing and mistakes... -Original Message- From: Cory Petkovsek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]X on startup On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 09:14:15PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: Mine shows: id:2:initdefault: But that triggered my memory. I looked in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d and they were the same. But I noticed in there gdm and xdm so I removed the symlinks to their /etc/init.d files. That should do the trick. -Rob When I want to disable a service I just rename the /etc/init.d/service to /etc/init.d/no.service. The symlinks in the runlevel directories are broken, but it is easier to rename the file back rather than reinstate the symlinks. You could also remove xdm, but you have to force the dependencies. When i upgrade service it sometimes complains that the original /etc/init.d/service file is missing and always replaces it with the upgraded version. Whip open /etc/inittab, and find a line similar to this: id:3:initdefault: Yours will probably have 5 instead of three (it depends on the distro), but text boot on most systems is three, so make the line like this: id:5:initdefault: As for this stuff, runlevel 3 is console and runlevel 5 is xdm on redhat based systems. Runlevel 2 is default on debian, and 3-5 are available for the user or other derivative distros to customize. Bob, where does it say that 3/5 is a standard? Cory ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [Eug-lug]binhex
hit the following link to get apt for redhat. I have been using it for a while. http://apt.freshrpms.net/ -Original Message- From: Linux Rocks ! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]binhex Mike, apt is a debian thing, its really cool, and Ive heard somewhere people are using it on non-debian systems, but I havnt seen it myself... you might search rpmfind.net and see if there is a rpm for apt (sounds crazy... but you might find apt..) Jamie On Wednesday 12 March 2003 04:26 am, mike wrote: : I am using redhat 7.3 : I dont seem to have apt-cache. where can i find that? : : On Tuesday 11 March 2003 09:22 pm, Bob Miller wrote: : Rob Hudson wrote: : Whenever someone sends me a file from the mac, it appears garbled. An : example header looks like this: : : (This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0) : : :$%KPE(!JBQN,R4iG!849K8C'pcB3!X)3$M+ca)9%e-2Jd+2%K383 : : q$3Sm9%P86%8q5'9XF$`[9%P86%8q$3Sm6%P15b548`p)[EMAIL PROTECTED])'K : [EMAIL PROTECTED])Q0cFbpcG(PXCA-ZBh0c)LdHAP25*dCAKd,f0cFb)q$3SmE'PZDb[EMAIL PROTECTED] : ... : : Is there a way to un-binhex this on Linux? : : apt-cache search binhex : : That lists seven alternatives on my box. The one I have experience : with is mcvert. : : ___ : Eug-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- When you say 'I wrote a program that crashed Windows', people just stare at you blankly and say 'Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*'. -- Linus Torvalds ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [Eug-lug]binhex
The apt sources on freshrpms seem to work very well. The only thing that they have not gotten working is the a kernel update using apt. I up-verted (that is what happens when you use apt to upgrade a Redhat system) a Redhat v7.3 install to v8.0 with only one or two packages refusing to update. Garl -Original Message- From: Bob Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]binhex Grigsby, Garl wrote: hit the following link to get apt for redhat. I have been using it for a while. http://apt.freshrpms.net/ I don't see how the apt command, in isolation, is going to get you much. You also need a distribution whose maintainers are working hard at maintaining forward and backward migration paths and keeping all the necessary dependency information correct. Yeah, sure, if your fingers are committed to typing, apg-get install foo instead of wget http://url/to/foo-1.2.3.rpm rpm -i foo-1.2.3.rpm, that'll help a little, but it still doesn't save you from Dependency Hell, does it? (Heh, heh. He said, `Hell'. Does that mean this is a religious flame?) -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
RE: [Eug-lug]binhex
never tried. They were a couple of packages I never knew I had installed (nor did I want installed). I just removed them. teach them not to update when they were told to. -Original Message- From: john fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]binhex Grigsby, Garl wrote: The apt sources on freshrpms seem to work very well. The only thing that they have not gotten working is the a kernel update using apt. I up-verted (that is what happens when you use apt to upgrade a Redhat system) a Redhat v7.3 install to v8.0 with only one or two packages refusing to update. Garl So could you install them individualy afterward?Did it break anything? John ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
