RE: Decommission last 5.5 Server
Your IQ? The size of your ... ??? ;-) /\/iels -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Decommission last 5.5 Server What's 5.5? ;-) B -Original Message- From: Jonathan Schober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 February 2002 11:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Decommission last 5.5 Server Ok, folks, I'm about to take the plunge and decommsion my final 5.5 server. Any hints out there from the Real World? jds List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Counting mailboxes
The other thing to watch for is that NTDSNoMatch doesn't spot hidden mailboxes. It can be a royal PITA! Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 February 2002 19:38 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Counting mailboxes Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Very cool...thanks again William. -Jim -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Read the NTDSNoMatch docs. I think a disabled user account is automatically created when NDTSNoMatch is in custom attribute #10. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Thank you William, that confirms exactly what I had heard. When you say A dummy account will be created for those in migration, I presume that means that we will be manually creating these dummy accounts, or are the created automagically (probably too much to hope for)? Believe me, I will certainly RTFMs before attempting the migration, but this is just to satisfy my curiosity in the meantime. sigh Its gonna be a long arduous migration. -Jim -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes That will be difficult in migration. You will have to use multimb.exe and/or NTDSNoMatch to isolate the resource boxes. A dummy account will be created for those in migration. The attribute in AD can only have one mailbox object associated with a user object. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Out of curiosity...it is my understanding that Exchange 2K is designed for a unique user account for each mailbox...is this correct? If so, how do those of you with multiple mailboxes handle this? We are on Exchange 5.5, and have MANY resource mailboxes that are set up with primary accounts belonging to other users. Hope this doesn't qualify as thread hijacking ;-) -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office IT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes One for work, one for wife, one for girlfriend, etc., etc. Adds up after a while. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Not always. Many people may have multiple mailboxes. I have run an exchange server for 80 users with over 500 mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Exchange is not licensed by mailbox. It is licenesed by the number of users that will connect to the Exchange server. Yes, but - usually - you have 1 user, with 1 mailbox. And a number of other accounts - NAV, etc. So it's a good ballpark figure. So, since there's no user for System Attendent (as an example), I don't need a license for it? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may
RE: Removing Exchange
Hi Steve, Sorry, already tried that, still didn't work. When the server re-booted I re-ran the install and it just ran a new one and failed at the end of it! Seems ridiculous having to re-install NT just to get Exchange off the server. James. I'd manually delete all the exchange directories and then disable all the exchange services, reboot, and try again... :) not exactly what you asked for but this worked in my test lab once. Let us know how you get on. -Original Message- From: James Gosnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 February 2002 10:49 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Removing Exchange Dear all, Just a quick one I'm sure somebody will be able to point me in the right direction for. I am currently 'messing' around with a development server (NT 4.0) which I am trying to restore our Exchange Server to. I join it to our network as a BDC and then take it off-line, restore the backup thus demonstating my ability to deal with a disaster and then also practice upgrading to 2000 e.t.c I am experiencing problems restoring the database but this is another issue involving the wonderful Arcserve. My problem is that every time I botch up a restore it basically corrupts the Exchange installation and I don't really seem to able to remove it properly. Therefore a new resote won't work, I can't re-run setup so I keep re-installing the server! Basically the state I have at the moment is only 4 Exchange services installed, if I run setup (to hopefully get the uninstall option) it doesn't detect the current installation and attempts a new one which then fails! I think what I am asking is does anyone know where to find the article for manually doing a total removal of Exchange 5.5? Thanks, James. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: exmerge
Why would you want to? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: exmerge Greetings, How can I use exmerge to pull all the mail out of a folder in each user's mailbox and put it into 1 pst instead of 1 each user. [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
NTDSNoMatch (was RE: Counting mailboxes)
Thanks for the heads-up Neil, we do have several hidden mailboxes. I did not notice that caveat in the documentation, admittedly I did just skim over it - I'm not quite ready to start the actual upgrade yet. I'm still getting as much of the preliminary work done as I can. Putting together my test LAN, organizing, etc. I'm in the process of consolidating all of our resource mailboxes to a separate Exchange 5.5 server in a different site. I'm hoping that this will make the upgrade to E2K a bit easier on the main corporate Exchange site. Plus, it helps to keep things organized things a bit better. Thanks for the tip! -Jim -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes The other thing to watch for is that NTDSNoMatch doesn't spot hidden mailboxes. It can be a royal PITA! Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 February 2002 19:38 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Counting mailboxes Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Very cool...thanks again William. -Jim -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Read the NTDSNoMatch docs. I think a disabled user account is automatically created when NDTSNoMatch is in custom attribute #10. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Thank you William, that confirms exactly what I had heard. When you say A dummy account will be created for those in migration, I presume that means that we will be manually creating these dummy accounts, or are the created automagically (probably too much to hope for)? Believe me, I will certainly RTFMs before attempting the migration, but this is just to satisfy my curiosity in the meantime. sigh Its gonna be a long arduous migration. -Jim -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes That will be difficult in migration. You will have to use multimb.exe and/or NTDSNoMatch to isolate the resource boxes. A dummy account will be created for those in migration. The attribute in AD can only have one mailbox object associated with a user object. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Out of curiosity...it is my understanding that Exchange 2K is designed for a unique user account for each mailbox...is this correct? If so, how do those of you with multiple mailboxes handle this? We are on Exchange 5.5, and have MANY resource mailboxes that are set up with primary accounts belonging to other users. Hope this doesn't qualify as thread hijacking ;-) -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office IT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes One for work, one for wife, one for girlfriend, etc., etc. Adds up after a while. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Not always. Many people may have multiple mailboxes. I have run an exchange server for 80 users with over 500 mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Exchange is not licensed by mailbox. It is licenesed by the number of users that will connect to the Exchange server. Yes, but - usually - you have 1 user, with 1 mailbox. And a number of other accounts - NAV, etc. So it's a good ballpark figure. So, since there's no user for System Attendent (as an example), I don't need a license for it? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:
RE: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replication ...
Title: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replication ... http://eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7200source= -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 16:12 To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replication ... Last night, my Ex 5.5 SP4 server crashed. I see a few of these messages: Event ID: 3079 Source: MSExchangeIS Public Type: Error Category: Replication Errors Description: Unexpected replication thread error 0xfaf FReplAgent KB says this is an Exchange 2000 error, http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q272999 :-) It talks about Public Folder replication. Which is interesting, since I only have the one Exchange server, and I never configured replication ... This led to a number of Event 7200s, about Background threads being unable to run, until the whole IS shut down, and I had to reboot. Errors similar to http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q153480 (the Background Thread parts, anyway. I never made any registry changes, as that articles discusses). Amy thoughts on where to dig next? -- Michael Leone, Systems Administrator Philadelphia Contributionship 210 S. 4th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19106 mailto: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] V: 215-627-1752 x1282 F: 215-627-5354 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Securing Exchange Server
Title: Message Its just locking it down a bit tighter. Fewer ports open = fewer exploits available. Bringing your Exchange server inside the LAN makes it virtually invisible to those on the outside that would do evil things to it. Its way easier to lock down a server that only has to do one thing - SMTP - port 25, than to lock down an Exchange server, which needs so many otherports openbesides simple SMTP. You can set up a separate SMTP server on your DMZ, just for Internet mail, and have it forward to your Exchange server through your firewall (and vice-versa).Have your firewall configured to ONLY allow traffic from your SMTP server into your Exchange server via the DMZ. With this setup you can also implement attachment/content filtering outside of your Exchange server (using Mail Essentials, NAV for Gateways, or a similar product). Its early, so I hope I've explained this clearly - if anyone has a different opinion, or configuration preference, I am sure I'll hear about it as the day goes on ;-) Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message-From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 5:10 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Securing Exchange Server Isn't the DMZ as secure as the LAN with the exception that certain ports are open for the various services on the servers in the DMZ? I guess I just don't see the difference other than that and the fact that the LAN is "unknown" to the DMZ. But like I said, I know jack about this stuff, which is why I'm asking. Leaving it on the LAN actually sounds easier to me anyway, I just want to understand why it is more secure. Seems like a bad idea leaving an "exposed" computer on your LAN-I thought that was the whole point of a DMZ. -Original Message-From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:24 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Securing Exchange Server Exchange just doesn't belong on a DMZ. What purpose would it serve there? For every single purpose anyone could think of, there is a better solution that keeps Exchange inside the firewall, more secure and less prone to hacker attacks. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Securing Exchange Server This may sound ignorant, and if it does, then I guess it really is ignorant, but here goes anyway. Why is placing an Exchange server on the DMZ bad? We are getting a PIX soon and are going to be changing a lot of things here. Our reseller just informed me the price of the PIX 515 dropped big time too but that it is also being replaced by a faster one...the 515E for the same price. -Original Message-From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:43 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Securing Exchange Server That was the intent of what I was thinking - something to tide him over. But he also didn't say whether this was multihomed, or sitting in the DMZ (Gosh I hope not!), or what. Without more specifics, we are trying to hit baseballs with straws. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Securing Exchange Server I was thinking the same thing. Heck, even Zonealarm or something just to hold you over. -Original Message-From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:23 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Securing Exchange Server You can turn off unused/unwanted protocols under the Site, Configuration, Protocols, properties for each protocol. This should render the ports inactive and unable to accept connections on them. You can also do the same on a per server basis under the Server, Protocols, properties for each protocol. This will cover the Exchange protocols only though. I really think that if you are wanting to filter that many ports, you should look at a firewall. Heck, even if it is a software firewall to start with. It would be better than nothing. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:14 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
RE: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replicat ion ...
Title: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replication ... -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:14 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replication ... http://eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7200source= Yeah, I've been there. They say it'sa message fromExchange 2000 message, and I use Ex 5.5, so that doesn't help. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replicat ion ...
Title: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replication ... That is a really big help I sorry -Original Message-From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 08:42 To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replicat ion ... -Original Message-From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:14 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replication ... http://eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7200source= Yeah, I've been there. They say it'sa message fromExchange 2000 message, and I use Ex 5.5, so that doesn't help. List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replicat ion ...
Title: IS crash on Replication message ... when I don't use replication ... From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Single server? Yes. Single server, and yes, it's also a PDC :-). We use Netware as FP, so no one uses the NT services on that machine, just the Exchange services. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NTDSNoMatch (was RE: Counting mailboxes)
I don't believe it is actually in the documentation - I found out the hard way! Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 13:06 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: NTDSNoMatch (was RE: Counting mailboxes) Subject: NTDSNoMatch (was RE: Counting mailboxes) Thanks for the heads-up Neil, we do have several hidden mailboxes. I did not notice that caveat in the documentation, admittedly I did just skim over it - I'm not quite ready to start the actual upgrade yet. I'm still getting as much of the preliminary work done as I can. Putting together my test LAN, organizing, etc. I'm in the process of consolidating all of our resource mailboxes to a separate Exchange 5.5 server in a different site. I'm hoping that this will make the upgrade to E2K a bit easier on the main corporate Exchange site. Plus, it helps to keep things organized things a bit better. Thanks for the tip! -Jim -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes The other thing to watch for is that NTDSNoMatch doesn't spot hidden mailboxes. It can be a royal PITA! Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 21 February 2002 19:38 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Counting mailboxes Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Very cool...thanks again William. -Jim -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Read the NTDSNoMatch docs. I think a disabled user account is automatically created when NDTSNoMatch is in custom attribute #10. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Thank you William, that confirms exactly what I had heard. When you say A dummy account will be created for those in migration, I presume that means that we will be manually creating these dummy accounts, or are the created automagically (probably too much to hope for)? Believe me, I will certainly RTFMs before attempting the migration, but this is just to satisfy my curiosity in the meantime. sigh Its gonna be a long arduous migration. -Jim -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes That will be difficult in migration. You will have to use multimb.exe and/or NTDSNoMatch to isolate the resource boxes. A dummy account will be created for those in migration. The attribute in AD can only have one mailbox object associated with a user object. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Out of curiosity...it is my understanding that Exchange 2K is designed for a unique user account for each mailbox...is this correct? If so, how do those of you with multiple mailboxes handle this? We are on Exchange 5.5, and have MANY resource mailboxes that are set up with primary accounts belonging to other users. Hope this doesn't qualify as thread hijacking ;-) -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Ropiak Steve - NAO Florence Office IT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes One for work, one for wife, one for girlfriend, etc., etc. Adds up after a while. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Not always. Many people may have multiple mailboxes. I have run an exchange server for 80 users with over 500 mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Leone, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Counting mailboxes Exchange is not licensed by mailbox. It is licenesed by the number of users that will connect to the Exchange server.
System Manager Problems
Hi, I have a problem with System Manager (Exchange 2000 SP2) and i'm sure it's a pretty simple solution I just can't find it. Whenever I try to browse the public folder tree I am prompted for a password, none of the accounts I know work (members of the enterprise admins, domain admins, schema admins). Up until now this has never been a problem but we now want to develop an app which uses public folders. Any ideas how to resolve this? or which permissions need to be changed? Thanks Stu List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our PDC from a P75 to a P133 32MB RAM that's still in production. IF you can afford Exchange, you can afford a cheap BDC. I applaud your dedication to those companies. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? In the majority of shops I manage - there is no choice. Single server shops where the cost to have a BDC or even MS is over the budget. Keep in mind - the hardware is only a SMALL part of the cost. Most of the shops don't do Exchange - they go for POP mail. However, when the problem of shared contacts and calendars rears it's ugly head - Exchange is the solution. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I will always advise not to, but it works fine. The reasons not to: performance - not as big an issue today due to beefier machines recoverability - you better have a good BDC somewhere or tears are gonna fall. William -Original Message- From: Kevin Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Cost? Whenever possible install Exchange on a stand alone server. Kevin Kennedy (K2) Network Administrator Mahi Networks, Inc. 707-283-1336 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Step 5 of the Ed Crowley Server Move method...
Title: Step 5 of the Ed Crowley Server Move method... Step 5 says Create replicas of the public folders on the new server. When the contents of the folders have replicated (do wait a little while!), remove the replicas from the old server. What is the best way to accomplish this? I've gone to the replication page on each public folder and selected for them to be replicated on the new server I'm adding. I did this several days ago. Should this be sufficient (minus any new material)? I've also set the home server for each public folder to the new server. Does this take effect immediately or do I have to restart any services. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks for the help, Kelly List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Step 5 of the Ed Crowley Server Move method...
What you've done should be sufficient. You can check the home server of a public folder by looking at its properties - the home server is listed at the bottom of the general tab (I think it's general, anyway) Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:00 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Step 5 of the Ed Crowley Server Move method... Subject: Step 5 of the Ed Crowley Server Move method... Step 5 says Create replicas of the public folders on the new server. When the contents of the folders have replicated (do wait a little while!), remove the replicas from the old server. What is the best way to accomplish this? I've gone to the replication page on each public folder and selected for them to be replicated on the new server I'm adding. I did this several days ago. Should this be sufficient (minus any new material)? I've also set the home server for each public folder to the new server. Does this take effect immediately or do I have to restart any services. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks for the help, Kelly List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Eseutil Questions
In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
pure curiosity -Mailbox Mgr database changes
Title: pure curiosity -Mailbox Mgr database changes We run Mailbox Manager on our 5.5 server every week to clean out old data. Just recently, we have implemented RightFax 8.0 for our faxing gateway. What I'm wondering is - Does anyone know what database changes MM creates to make RightFax think that the mailbox has been modified? If MM is only deleting messages, then RightFax would probably think all mailboxes have been modified everyday (since people delete messages everyday). No big deal, just curious. Angie Sawyer (507.453.8058 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it. Microsoft says you should have one domain controller for each 1 accounts if I remember correctly, and this was written in the days of Pentium Pro 100s being a kick butt machine. Unless you have thousands of users I really don't see the domain controller resource drain a bar to putting an exchange box on a PDC. However I would not recommend putting it on a box with anything else. It was a real bitch having to take down the DHCP for a day when I had to clean out the I Love you virus. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our PDC from a P75 to a P133 32MB RAM that's still in production. IF you can afford Exchange, you can afford a cheap BDC. I applaud your dedication to those companies. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? In the majority of shops I manage - there is no choice. Single server shops where the cost to have a BDC or even MS is over the budget. Keep in mind - the hardware is only a SMALL part of the cost. Most of the shops don't do Exchange - they go for POP mail. However, when the problem of shared contacts and calendars rears it's ugly head - Exchange is the solution. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I will always advise not to, but it works fine. The reasons not to: performance - not as big an issue today due to beefier machines recoverability - you better have a good BDC somewhere or tears are gonna fall. William -Original Message- From: Kevin Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Cost? Whenever possible install Exchange on a stand alone server. Kevin Kennedy (K2) Network Administrator Mahi Networks, Inc. 707-283-1336 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Eseutil Questions
25-45 minutes per gig has been my experience. On that hardware with 50/50 IO cache on the RAID, best guess would be 32 minutes. The biggest factor being disk IO. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Eseutil Questions In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Eseutil Questions
I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: Eseutil Questions In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I would put exchange and your pdc on a Dual PIII 733 MHZ processor ..minimum.. With at least 1 GB of RAM and no less than 40 GB of RAID 5 storage. Ive run Exchange on the RAID1 for logs, RAID 1 for OS and RAID 5 for the database specs.. And I see NO increase in peformance than if it was all on a RAID 5 partition. -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it. Microsoft says you should have one domain controller for each 1 accounts if I remember correctly, and this was written in the days of Pentium Pro 100s being a kick butt machine. Unless you have thousands of users I really don't see the domain controller resource drain a bar to putting an exchange box on a PDC. However I would not recommend putting it on a box with anything else. It was a real bitch having to take down the DHCP for a day when I had to clean out the I Love you virus. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our PDC from a P75 to a P133 32MB RAM that's still in production. IF you can afford Exchange, you can afford a cheap BDC. I applaud your dedication to those companies. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? In the majority of shops I manage - there is no choice. Single server shops where the cost to have a BDC or even MS is over the budget. Keep in mind - the hardware is only a SMALL part of the cost. Most of the shops don't do Exchange - they go for POP mail. However, when the problem of shared contacts and calendars rears it's ugly head - Exchange is the solution. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I will always advise not to, but it works fine. The reasons not to: performance - not as big an issue today due to beefier machines recoverability - you better have a good BDC somewhere or tears are gonna fall. William -Original Message- From: Kevin Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Cost? Whenever possible install Exchange on a stand alone server. Kevin Kennedy (K2) Network Administrator Mahi Networks, Inc. 707-283-1336 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: pure curiosity -Mailbox Mgr database changes
Title: pure curiosity -Mailbox Mgr database changes Angie, I am missing something here... how does RightFax interact and why is it important that RFax "knows" about the modification date? -Original Message-From: Angie Sawyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:02 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: pure curiosity -Mailbox Mgr database changes We run Mailbox Manager on our 5.5 server every week to clean out old data. Just recently, we have implemented RightFax 8.0 for our faxing gateway. What I'm wondering is - Does anyone know what database changes MM creates to make RightFax think that the mailbox has been modified? If MM is only deleting messages, then RightFax would probably think all mailboxes have been modified everyday (since people delete messages everyday). No big deal, just curious. Angie Sawyer (507.453.8058 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
The primary reason for putting logs on their own drive is not a performance reason. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:14 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I would put exchange and your pdc on a Dual PIII 733 MHZ processor ..minimum.. With at least 1 GB of RAM and no less than 40 GB of RAID 5 storage. Ive run Exchange on the RAID1 for logs, RAID 1 for OS and RAID 5 for the database specs.. And I see NO increase in peformance than if it was all on a RAID 5 partition. -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it. Microsoft says you should have one domain controller for each 1 accounts if I remember correctly, and this was written in the days of Pentium Pro 100s being a kick butt machine. Unless you have thousands of users I really don't see the domain controller resource drain a bar to putting an exchange box on a PDC. However I would not recommend putting it on a box with anything else. It was a real bitch having to take down the DHCP for a day when I had to clean out the I Love you virus. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our PDC from a P75 to a P133 32MB RAM that's still in production. IF you can afford Exchange, you can afford a cheap BDC. I applaud your dedication to those companies. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? In the majority of shops I manage - there is no choice. Single server shops where the cost to have a BDC or even MS is over the budget. Keep in mind - the hardware is only a SMALL part of the cost. Most of the shops don't do Exchange - they go for POP mail. However, when the problem of shared contacts and calendars rears it's ugly head - Exchange is the solution. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I will always advise not to, but it works fine. The reasons not to: performance - not as big an issue today due to beefier machines recoverability - you better have a good BDC somewhere or tears are gonna fall. William -Original Message- From: Kevin Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Cost? Whenever possible install Exchange on a stand alone server. Kevin Kennedy (K2) Network Administrator Mahi Networks, Inc. 707-283-1336 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are
RE: Eseutil Questions
Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be not raid. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: Eseutil Questions In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Eseutil Questions
When I said quoted, that's what I meant! I read those figures somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd probably be a bit lower. To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them often at all... Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be not raid. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: Eseutil Questions In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other reason to put Log files on a Mirrored partition. Its not fault tolerant.. At least not on the fly.. If 1 drive fails, ya gotta break the mirror.. If its RAID 5, it will still run. If its not a performance issue to put them on their own Mirrored partition, why would you do it? Is it just to keep them safe in case your database drive goes down? If that happens, youre still Skrewed -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The primary reason for putting logs on their own drive is not a performance reason. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:14 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I would put exchange and your pdc on a Dual PIII 733 MHZ processor ..minimum.. With at least 1 GB of RAM and no less than 40 GB of RAID 5 storage. Ive run Exchange on the RAID1 for logs, RAID 1 for OS and RAID 5 for the database specs.. And I see NO increase in peformance than if it was all on a RAID 5 partition. -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it. Microsoft says you should have one domain controller for each 1 accounts if I remember correctly, and this was written in the days of Pentium Pro 100s being a kick butt machine. Unless you have thousands of users I really don't see the domain controller resource drain a bar to putting an exchange box on a PDC. However I would not recommend putting it on a box with anything else. It was a real bitch having to take down the DHCP for a day when I had to clean out the I Love you virus. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our PDC from a P75 to a P133 32MB RAM that's still in production. IF you can afford Exchange, you can afford a cheap BDC. I applaud your dedication to those companies. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? In the majority of shops I manage - there is no choice. Single server shops where the cost to have a BDC or even MS is over the budget. Keep in mind - the hardware is only a SMALL part of the cost. Most of the shops don't do Exchange - they go for POP mail. However, when the problem of shared contacts and calendars rears it's ugly head - Exchange is the solution. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I will always advise not to, but it works fine. The reasons not to: performance - not as big an issue today due to beefier machines recoverability - you better have a good BDC somewhere or tears are gonna fall. William -Original Message- From: Kevin Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Cost? Whenever possible
RE: Eseutil Questions
They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and play with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions When I said quoted, that's what I meant! I read those figures somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd probably be a bit lower. To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them often at all... Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be not raid. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: Eseutil Questions In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction logs. What's the difference now? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other reason to put Log files on a Mirrored partition. Its not fault tolerant.. At least not on the fly.. If 1 drive fails, ya gotta break the mirror.. If its RAID 5, it will still run. If its not a performance issue to put them on their own Mirrored partition, why would you do it? Is it just to keep them safe in case your database drive goes down? If that happens, youre still Skrewed -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The primary reason for putting logs on their own drive is not a performance reason. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:14 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I would put exchange and your pdc on a Dual PIII 733 MHZ processor ..minimum.. With at least 1 GB of RAM and no less than 40 GB of RAID 5 storage. Ive run Exchange on the RAID1 for logs, RAID 1 for OS and RAID 5 for the database specs.. And I see NO increase in peformance than if it was all on a RAID 5 partition. -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it. Microsoft says you should have one domain controller for each 1 accounts if I remember correctly, and this was written in the days of Pentium Pro 100s being a kick butt machine. Unless you have thousands of users I really don't see the domain controller resource drain a bar to putting an exchange box on a PDC. However I would not recommend putting it on a box with anything else. It was a real bitch having to take down the DHCP for a day when I had to clean out the I Love you virus. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our PDC from a P75 to a P133 32MB RAM that's still in production. IF you can afford Exchange, you can afford a cheap BDC. I applaud your dedication to those companies. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? In the majority of shops I manage - there is no choice. Single server shops where the cost to have a BDC or even MS is over the budget. Keep in mind - the hardware is only a SMALL part of the cost. Most of the shops don't do Exchange - they go for POP mail. However, when the problem of shared contacts and calendars rears it's ugly head - Exchange is the solution. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The difference is you don't use Circular logging,and you backup your logfiles AND your exchange DB.. You can then get back to the point of failure.. If you have your logfiles, and your disk is still running, you can repair the Db and be back up and running to the point of failure. Even if youre idea is better.. Why a RAID 1? Why not a RAID 5? What happens when youre RAID1 logfile loses a member of the mirror? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction logs. What's the difference now? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other reason to put Log files on a Mirrored partition. Its not fault tolerant.. At least not on the fly.. If 1 drive fails, ya gotta break the mirror.. If its RAID 5, it will still run. If its not a performance issue to put them on their own Mirrored partition, why would you do it? Is it just to keep them safe in case your database drive goes down? If that happens, youre still Skrewed -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The primary reason for putting logs on their own drive is not a performance reason. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:14 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I would put exchange and your pdc on a Dual PIII 733 MHZ processor ..minimum.. With at least 1 GB of RAM and no less than 40 GB of RAID 5 storage. Ive run Exchange on the RAID1 for logs, RAID 1 for OS and RAID 5 for the database specs.. And I see NO increase in peformance than if it was all on a RAID 5 partition. -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it. Microsoft says you should have one domain controller for each 1 accounts if I remember correctly, and this was written in the days of Pentium Pro 100s being a kick butt machine. Unless you have thousands of users I really don't see the domain controller resource drain a bar to putting an exchange box on a PDC. However I would not recommend putting it on a box with anything else. It was a real bitch having to take down the DHCP for a day when I had to clean out the I Love you virus. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our PDC from a P75 to a P133 32MB RAM that's still in production. IF you can afford Exchange, you can afford a cheap BDC. I applaud your dedication to those companies. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:25 PM To:
RE: Eseutil Questions
Very smart man... --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions Thanks for the info. I haven't done one of these either in about 3 years and wouldn't be doing it if PSS had not requested it. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and play with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions When I said quoted, that's what I meant! I read those figures somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd probably be a bit lower. To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them often at all... Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be not raid. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: Eseutil Questions In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
I though it was Clark Systems Support! :-) Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 01:17 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Thanks - web geek William answered that one for me. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=css -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 18:40 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I'm sorry to say, I don't know what CSS is. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? CSS? I don't have them... -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? LMAO Give me the sheets back.. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Thanks, hon. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I know, I know. (AKA - yes dear) Thanks for your experience. I have in one of the offices a BDC and moved the stuff around. The other office has 1 server and they won't even talk other stuff now - economy/ lawyers/ go figure. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Exchange is not the issue. Unless you have to restore it. I would certainly favour a BDC over an enhanced backup solution. Just my thoughts of course. William List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Circular logging doesn't come into it. You simply wouldn't use it on a mailbox server. The difference is simple: scenario 1 means you lose that day's email, scenario 2 you don't. In scenario 1, if you lose 2 disks, you ain't gonna have your log files. Also, with a -1018 error, I wouldn't bother attempting to repair the database. Would you seriously use eseutil /p on a production database? The recommended method is to restore from backup (after fixing the hardware problem) or restore the backup to alternative hardware. Why RAID1? Well, the best practises have always been to use a separate drive for the logs that perform sequential I/O in an optimal fashion. RAID1 meets this requirement. For servers with large numbers of users, this is an issue. And if you lose a drive in a RAID1 array, well, you've still got your data intact. Yes, you could use RAID5. But why use 3 disks when 2 will do the job, even if performance is not an issue? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:44 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The difference is you don't use Circular logging,and you backup your logfiles AND your exchange DB.. You can then get back to the point of failure.. If you have your logfiles, and your disk is still running, you can repair the Db and be back up and running to the point of failure. Even if youre idea is better.. Why a RAID 1? Why not a RAID 5? What happens when youre RAID1 logfile loses a member of the mirror? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction logs. What's the difference now? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other reason to put Log files on a Mirrored partition. Its not fault tolerant.. At least not on the fly.. If 1 drive fails, ya gotta break the mirror.. If its RAID 5, it will still run. If its not a performance issue to put them on their own Mirrored partition, why would you do it? Is it just to keep them safe in case your database drive goes down? If that happens, youre still Skrewed -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The primary reason for putting logs on their own drive is not a performance reason. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:14 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I would put exchange and your pdc on a Dual PIII 733 MHZ processor ..minimum.. With at least 1 GB of RAM and no less than 40 GB of RAID 5 storage. Ive run Exchange on the RAID1 for logs, RAID 1 for OS and RAID 5 for the database specs.. And I see NO increase in peformance than if it was all on a RAID 5 partition. -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it.
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? My whole point is.. Why ever use anything less than a RAID 5, (unless something like Oracle NEEDS it), on a production box when a RAID 5 configuration can keep ya running in the event of a disk failure. Youre talking the cost of 1 disk.. Whats that in comparision to the time it takes you to break the mirror, replace the disk, and recreate the mirror? If I got a -1018 error, Id attempt to repair the DB, the exmerge the data out.. Create a new DB and exmerge the data back in.. Ive done with with PSS on the phone twice due to the cluster we HAD screwing up the DB. It didn't matter that our log files were on the RAID 1 partition or on the disk where the DB was. Cirular logging is enabled by default on Exchange 5.5.. You have to disable it to reap those benefits. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Circular logging doesn't come into it. You simply wouldn't use it on a mailbox server. The difference is simple: scenario 1 means you lose that day's email, scenario 2 you don't. In scenario 1, if you lose 2 disks, you ain't gonna have your log files. Also, with a -1018 error, I wouldn't bother attempting to repair the database. Would you seriously use eseutil /p on a production database? The recommended method is to restore from backup (after fixing the hardware problem) or restore the backup to alternative hardware. Why RAID1? Well, the best practises have always been to use a separate drive for the logs that perform sequential I/O in an optimal fashion. RAID1 meets this requirement. For servers with large numbers of users, this is an issue. And if you lose a drive in a RAID1 array, well, you've still got your data intact. Yes, you could use RAID5. But why use 3 disks when 2 will do the job, even if performance is not an issue? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:44 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The difference is you don't use Circular logging,and you backup your logfiles AND your exchange DB.. You can then get back to the point of failure.. If you have your logfiles, and your disk is still running, you can repair the Db and be back up and running to the point of failure. Even if youre idea is better.. Why a RAID 1? Why not a RAID 5? What happens when youre RAID1 logfile loses a member of the mirror? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction logs. What's the difference now? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other reason to put Log files on a Mirrored partition. Its not fault tolerant.. At least not on the fly.. If 1 drive fails, ya gotta break the mirror.. If its RAID 5, it will still run. If its not a performance issue to put them on their own Mirrored partition, why would you do it? Is it just to keep them safe in case your database drive goes down? If that happens, youre still Skrewed -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The primary reason for putting logs on their own drive is not a performance reason. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:14 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation:
Cant open one or more attachments
Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Eseutil Questions
Thanks for the info. I haven't done one of these either in about 3 years and wouldn't be doing it if PSS had not requested it. -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions They take for ever when you have a big store. I like to time them and play with the numbers. Boredom will lead to odd things. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions When I said quoted, that's what I meant! I read those figures somewhere (they were from Microsoft) but I do admit in reality they'd probably be a bit lower. To be honest, I've not done an offline defrag often enough to remember how long it took me; I really don't do them often at all... Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:19 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be not raid. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: Eseutil Questions In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
You do it your way, and I'll do it the way that's been promoted as best practise by Microsoft et al. :-) Who's ever heard of transaction log roll-forward anyway? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 16:12 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? My whole point is.. Why ever use anything less than a RAID 5, (unless something like Oracle NEEDS it), on a production box when a RAID 5 configuration can keep ya running in the event of a disk failure. Youre talking the cost of 1 disk.. Whats that in comparision to the time it takes you to break the mirror, replace the disk, and recreate the mirror? If I got a -1018 error, Id attempt to repair the DB, the exmerge the data out.. Create a new DB and exmerge the data back in.. Ive done with with PSS on the phone twice due to the cluster we HAD screwing up the DB. It didn't matter that our log files were on the RAID 1 partition or on the disk where the DB was. Cirular logging is enabled by default on Exchange 5.5.. You have to disable it to reap those benefits. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Circular logging doesn't come into it. You simply wouldn't use it on a mailbox server. The difference is simple: scenario 1 means you lose that day's email, scenario 2 you don't. In scenario 1, if you lose 2 disks, you ain't gonna have your log files. Also, with a -1018 error, I wouldn't bother attempting to repair the database. Would you seriously use eseutil /p on a production database? The recommended method is to restore from backup (after fixing the hardware problem) or restore the backup to alternative hardware. Why RAID1? Well, the best practises have always been to use a separate drive for the logs that perform sequential I/O in an optimal fashion. RAID1 meets this requirement. For servers with large numbers of users, this is an issue. And if you lose a drive in a RAID1 array, well, you've still got your data intact. Yes, you could use RAID5. But why use 3 disks when 2 will do the job, even if performance is not an issue? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:44 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The difference is you don't use Circular logging,and you backup your logfiles AND your exchange DB.. You can then get back to the point of failure.. If you have your logfiles, and your disk is still running, you can repair the Db and be back up and running to the point of failure. Even if youre idea is better.. Why a RAID 1? Why not a RAID 5? What happens when youre RAID1 logfile loses a member of the mirror? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction logs. What's the difference now? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other reason to put Log files on a Mirrored partition. Its not fault tolerant.. At least not on the fly.. If 1 drive fails, ya gotta break the mirror.. If its RAID 5, it will still run. If its not a performance issue to put them on their own Mirrored partition, why would you do it? Is it just to keep them safe in case your database drive goes down? If that happens, youre still Skrewed -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: exmerge
What I am doing is having everyone(700+ users) create a spam folder under their inbox used to place spam that they receive and using exmerge to pull all their messages to psts. What I would like to do is have all the messages go into one pst and not 700. This would not even be close to 2GB of data. Any ideas? David -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge Why would you want to? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: exmerge Greetings, How can I use exmerge to pull all the mail out of a folder in each user's mailbox and put it into 1 pst instead of 1 each user. [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Eseutil Questions
The last eseutil I was forced into running did a 1.5 Gb edb in less than 30 minutes. PE2400, RAID, PIII-500 with 512Mb. I left for coffee and junk food and it was done when I got back. YMMV John Weber Consultant Centerlogic 503-262-0490 x203 -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 07:19 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions Now that's fast what was you running that on for hardware? I would be not raid. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Eseutil Questions I've seen quoted speeds of 4-6Gb per hour, but it really depends on how much data within the database is used, not necessarily the actual physical size of the edb file, as well as the spec of the machine running it. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:04 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Eseutil Questions Subject: Eseutil Questions In diagnosing an issue on my Exchange server PSS has suggested I run eseutil /d on my stores. Does anyone have any idea of how long this whole process might take, assuming all goes well, given the following info (just trying to plan my weekend): 2 mailbox stores total 6 storage groups total ~300 mailboxes total ~30GB total edb size ~20GB is largest single edb Server is Proliant 6000 with three PII 450Mhz XEON 1MB cache processors and 4GB RAM Thanks in advance. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Its called replaying the log files when you get the DB back up and running. PSS supports and suggests this is the best practice. Anway, I wish you luck in your design, and Ill hope you wish me luck in mine. :) -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? You do it your way, and I'll do it the way that's been promoted as best practise by Microsoft et al. :-) Who's ever heard of transaction log roll-forward anyway? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 16:12 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? My whole point is.. Why ever use anything less than a RAID 5, (unless something like Oracle NEEDS it), on a production box when a RAID 5 configuration can keep ya running in the event of a disk failure. Youre talking the cost of 1 disk.. Whats that in comparision to the time it takes you to break the mirror, replace the disk, and recreate the mirror? If I got a -1018 error, Id attempt to repair the DB, the exmerge the data out.. Create a new DB and exmerge the data back in.. Ive done with with PSS on the phone twice due to the cluster we HAD screwing up the DB. It didn't matter that our log files were on the RAID 1 partition or on the disk where the DB was. Cirular logging is enabled by default on Exchange 5.5.. You have to disable it to reap those benefits. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Circular logging doesn't come into it. You simply wouldn't use it on a mailbox server. The difference is simple: scenario 1 means you lose that day's email, scenario 2 you don't. In scenario 1, if you lose 2 disks, you ain't gonna have your log files. Also, with a -1018 error, I wouldn't bother attempting to repair the database. Would you seriously use eseutil /p on a production database? The recommended method is to restore from backup (after fixing the hardware problem) or restore the backup to alternative hardware. Why RAID1? Well, the best practises have always been to use a separate drive for the logs that perform sequential I/O in an optimal fashion. RAID1 meets this requirement. For servers with large numbers of users, this is an issue. And if you lose a drive in a RAID1 array, well, you've still got your data intact. Yes, you could use RAID5. But why use 3 disks when 2 will do the job, even if performance is not an issue? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:44 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The difference is you don't use Circular logging,and you backup your logfiles AND your exchange DB.. You can then get back to the point of failure.. If you have your logfiles, and your disk is still running, you can repair the Db and be back up and running to the point of failure. Even if youre idea is better.. Why a RAID 1? Why not a RAID 5? What happens when youre RAID1 logfile loses a member of the mirror? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction logs. What's the difference now? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other
RE: exmerge
Why not have them place it in a PF instead of a folder under their inbox? Matt -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge What I am doing is having everyone(700+ users) create a spam folder under their inbox used to place spam that they receive and using exmerge to pull all their messages to psts. What I would like to do is have all the messages go into one pst and not 700. This would not even be close to 2GB of data. Any ideas? David -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge Why would you want to? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: exmerge Greetings, How can I use exmerge to pull all the mail out of a folder in each user's mailbox and put it into 1 pst instead of 1 each user. [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: exmerge
Not gonna happen.s --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge What I am doing is having everyone(700+ users) create a spam folder under their inbox used to place spam that they receive and using exmerge to pull all their messages to psts. What I would like to do is have all the messages go into one pst and not 700. This would not even be close to 2GB of data. Any ideas? David -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge Why would you want to? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: exmerge Greetings, How can I use exmerge to pull all the mail out of a folder in each user's mailbox and put it into 1 pst instead of 1 each user. [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: exmerge
Public Folder, no replicas. Rule to move Spam automagically to the SPAM Public Folder. -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 08:43 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge What I am doing is having everyone(700+ users) create a spam folder under their inbox used to place spam that they receive and using exmerge to pull all their messages to psts. What I would like to do is have all the messages go into one pst and not 700. This would not even be close to 2GB of data. Any ideas? David -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge Why would you want to? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: exmerge Greetings, How can I use exmerge to pull all the mail out of a folder in each user's mailbox and put it into 1 pst instead of 1 each user. [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Unable to remove additional mailbox
Problem solved
I am not sure what rebuilt meant but I thought it meant creating another
profile. Creating a new profile did indeed get rid of the additional
mailbox. I was looking for a means to fix the original profile as it would
necessitate uninstalling then reinstalling a piece of software that is
tied to the user profiles.
I finally uncovered the problem to be a registry Key that for whatever
reason did not get removed when I removed the additional mailbox in the
advanced tab. Deleting this Key resolved my problem
I have included the key and some of the values that I exported from the
Registry for future reference for anyone that is interested
Key - [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Windows Messaging
Subsystem\Profiles\Vantine\2b1df5b7b333f6439b0c2048bcf83275]
Values -
001e3001=Mailbox - training
001e3006=Microsoft Exchange Server
00033e03=hex:21,00,00,00
001e300a=EMSMDB.DLL
001e3d13={6485D26A-C2AC-11D1-AD3E-10A0C911C9C0}
00033009=hex:40,08,00,00
0003660a=hex:02,00,00,00
01023414=hex:9e,b4,77,00,74,e4,11,ce,8c,5e,00,aa,00,42,54,e2
00036609=hex:0c,00,00,00
01023d0c=hex:10,8a,02,32,83,b8,fa,40,ab,27,d5,3f,2e,5d,4e,00
001e3d09=MSEMS
001e660b=/o=Creative Computing,
Inc./ou=CREATCOMP/cn=Recipients/cn=training
001e660c=ENTERPRISE
001e6614=/o=Creative Computing,
Inc./ou=CREATCOMP/cn=Configuration/cn=Servers/cn=ENTERPRISE
Thanks
-Dave Vantine
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? How does a RAID 1 (mirroring) not keep you running in the event of a failure? I'm curious. It most certainly IS fault-tolerant. If you lose a disk from RAID 1, you are still running. You don't HAVE to run maintenance until you decide to. Now, certainly, it would be idiotic NOT to replace the failed disk right away and break/re-create the mirror, but with newer RAID controllers, you can even do this online. RAID 5 will give you the EXACT same downtime. You replace the dead drive, and you wait while your RAID controller rebuilds the stripe set. But again, what is the difference between the 2 in terms of time? What, a couple of minutes? I do concede that AS LONG as your databases and log files are kept on separate spindles, then I personally don't care whether you use RAID 1 or 5. Replaying the log files comes into play when you restore the database from tape backup. I don't think it applies to creating a new database. Circular logging IS on by default, but most Exchange admins with experience (meaning those that know about Exchange and its features and why certain features are used and why others aren't) turn that feature off as one of the first steps once they build a server. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? My whole point is.. Why ever use anything less than a RAID 5, (unless something like Oracle NEEDS it), on a production box when a RAID 5 configuration can keep ya running in the event of a disk failure. Youre talking the cost of 1 disk.. Whats that in comparision to the time it takes you to break the mirror, replace the disk, and recreate the mirror? If I got a -1018 error, Id attempt to repair the DB, the exmerge the data out.. Create a new DB and exmerge the data back in.. Ive done with with PSS on the phone twice due to the cluster we HAD screwing up the DB. It didn't matter that our log files were on the RAID 1 partition or on the disk where the DB was. Cirular logging is enabled by default on Exchange 5.5.. You have to disable it to reap those benefits. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Circular logging doesn't come into it. You simply wouldn't use it on a mailbox server. The difference is simple: scenario 1 means you lose that day's email, scenario 2 you don't. In scenario 1, if you lose 2 disks, you ain't gonna have your log files. Also, with a -1018 error, I wouldn't bother attempting to repair the database. Would you seriously use eseutil /p on a production database? The recommended method is to restore from backup (after fixing the hardware problem) or restore the backup to alternative hardware. Why RAID1? Well, the best practises have always been to use a separate drive for the logs that perform sequential I/O in an optimal fashion. RAID1 meets this requirement. For servers with large numbers of users, this is an issue. And if you lose a drive in a RAID1 array, well, you've still got your data intact. Yes, you could use RAID5. But why use 3 disks when 2 will do the job, even if performance is not an issue? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:44 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The difference is you don't use Circular logging,and you backup your logfiles AND your exchange DB.. You can then get back to the point of failure.. If you have your logfiles, and your disk is still running, you can repair the Db and be back up and running to the point of failure. Even if youre idea is better.. Why a RAID 1? Why not a RAID 5? What happens when youre RAID1 logfile loses a member of the mirror? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
Turned out to be the Groupshield antivirus. It had not updated its engine in a while. The last dat file it downloaded was not supported by the old engine and he defaulted to blocking all attachments since he didnt know what to do. Thanks for all the suggestions!! Craig -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: Message If a RAID 1 set has a failed disk , you HAVE to break the mirror and recreate the mirror with the new disk. This means Server downtime. If a RAID 5 set has a failed disk, you simply replace the disk (especially hot pluggable) and the server STAYS RUNNING.. NO downtime on the server. RAID 5 was designedfor this. It does not give you the same downtime when you have to down the server, replace the disk and recreate the mirror.. RAID 5 will know you replaced the failed disk and rebuild it on the fly. The server may see some performance degredation, but it will stay running..and you dont need to down the server at all. Replaying the log files most certainly does come into play when you create a new DB.. Ive gone thru this with PSS! -Original Message-From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? How does a RAID 1 (mirroring) not keep you running in the event of a failure? I'm curious. It most certainly IS fault-tolerant. If you lose a disk from RAID 1, you are still running. You don't HAVE to run maintenance until you decide to. Now, certainly, it would be idiotic NOT to replace the failed disk right away and break/re-create the mirror, but with newer RAID controllers, you can even do this online. RAID 5 will give you the EXACT same downtime. You replace the dead drive, and you wait while your RAID controller rebuilds the stripe set. But again, what is the difference between the 2 in terms of time? What, a couple of minutes? I do concede that AS LONG as your databases and log files are kept on separate spindles, then I personally don't care whether you use RAID 1 or 5. Replaying the log files comes into play when you restore the database from tape backup. I don't think it applies to creating a new database. Circular logging IS on by default, but most Exchange admins with experience (meaning those that know about Exchange and its features and why certain features are used and why others aren't) turn that feature off as one of the first steps once they build a server. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:12 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? My whole point is.. Why ever use anything less than a RAID 5, (unless something like Oracle NEEDS it), on a production box when a RAID 5 configuration can keep ya running in the event of a disk failure. Youre talking the cost of 1 disk.. Whats that in comparision to the time it takes you to break the mirror, replace the disk, and recreate the mirror? If I got a -1018 error, Id attempt to repair the DB, the exmerge the data out.. Create a new DB and exmerge the data back in.. Ive done with with PSS on the phone twice due to the cluster we HAD screwing up the DB. It didn't matter that our log files were on the RAID 1 partition or on the disk where the DB was. Cirular logging is enabled by default on Exchange 5.5.. You have to disable it to reap those benefits. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Circular logging doesn't come into it. You simply wouldn't use it on a mailbox server. The difference is simple: scenario 1 means you lose that day's email, scenario 2 you don't. In scenario 1, if you lose 2 disks, you ain't gonna have your log files. Also, with a -1018 error, I wouldn't bother attempting to repair the database. Would you seriously use eseutil /p on a production database? The recommended method is to restore from backup (after fixing the hardware problem) or restore the backup to alternative hardware. Why RAID1? Well, the best practises have always been to use a separate drive for the logs that perform sequential I/O in an optimal fashion. RAID1 meets this requirement. For servers with large numbers of users, this is an issue. And if you lose a drive in a RAID1 array, well, you've still got your data intact. Yes, you could use RAID5. But why use 3 disks when 2 will do the job, even if performance is not an issue? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:44 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
Very sad. I used GroupShield for a long time and had nothing but problems. If you can swing the $$, there are much much better products out there - Antigen (my favorite), Trend... Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Turned out to be the Groupshield antivirus. It had not updated its engine in a while. The last dat file it downloaded was not supported by the old engine and he defaulted to blocking all attachments since he didnt know what to do. Thanks for all the suggestions!! Craig -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Exchange 5.5 E2K migration
Title: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Does anyone have some time to talk off-line about this procedure? I have read all the relevant TechNet information ( of which this is quite a lot), and my head is swimming. I'd really appreciate speaking directly to someone who has done this. Network is very simple NT 4.0 PDC (1) BDC (1) Exchange 5.5 Server TIA Chris Bodnar Network Engineer Essent Corporation 610-559- X:24 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
The whole point depends on the way the tasks are done. If the RAID 1 (Mirror) is done in hardware, it is the same as a hardware RAID 5 - on the controllers that I have used. Adaptec 7800 RAID; Compaq 221,2DH, 3200 4200, 5200 and others; Promise IDE Raid SX6000, TX100, and motherboard integrated Even the Promise IDE RAID Controllers can suffer a failed drive in a mirror, and not have any downtime. The drive is marked as down, and you can hot swap with another, and have it rebuild in the background. You can also shut the server down, and restart with NO OS Changes and have it come back on-line. You can also shut down, replace the drive, and bring it back up if you don't have hot swap, and rebuild in the Controller BIOS, of bring it up to the OS and have the OS Utilities rebuild in background. The above works on RAID 5 and RAID 1 on the Promise controllers that support both. Dennis -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? If a RAID 1 set has a failed disk , you HAVE to break the mirror and recreate the mirror with the new disk. This means Server downtime. If a RAID 5 set has a failed disk, you simply replace the disk (especially hot pluggable) and the server STAYS RUNNING.. NO downtime on the server. RAID 5 was designed for this. It does not give you the same downtime when you have to down the server, replace the disk and recreate the mirror.. RAID 5 will know you replaced the failed disk and rebuild it on the fly. The server may see some performance degredation, but it will stay running..and you dont need to down the server at all. Replaying the log files most certainly does come into play when you create a new DB.. Ive gone thru this with PSS! -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? How does a RAID 1 (mirroring) not keep you running in the event of a failure? I'm curious. It most certainly IS fault-tolerant. If you lose a disk from RAID 1, you are still running. You don't HAVE to run maintenance until you decide to. Now, certainly, it would be idiotic NOT to replace the failed disk right away and break/re-create the mirror, but with newer RAID controllers, you can even do this online. RAID 5 will give you the EXACT same downtime. You replace the dead drive, and you wait while your RAID controller rebuilds the stripe set. But again, what is the difference between the 2 in terms of time? What, a couple of minutes? I do concede that AS LONG as your databases and log files are kept on separate spindles, then I personally don't care whether you use RAID 1 or 5. Replaying the log files comes into play when you restore the database from tape backup. I don't think it applies to creating a new database. Circular logging IS on by default, but most Exchange admins with experience (meaning those that know about Exchange and its features and why certain features are used and why others aren't) turn that feature off as one of the first steps once they build a server. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? My whole point is.. Why ever use anything less than a RAID 5, (unless something like Oracle NEEDS it), on a production box when a RAID 5 configuration can keep ya running in the event of a disk failure. Youre talking the cost of 1 disk.. Whats that in comparision to the time it takes you to break the mirror, replace the disk, and recreate the mirror? If I got a -1018 error, Id attempt to repair the DB, the exmerge the data out.. Create a new DB and exmerge the data back in.. Ive done with with PSS on the phone twice due to the cluster we HAD screwing up the DB. It didn't matter that our log files were on the RAID 1 partition or on the disk where the DB was. Cirular logging is enabled by default on Exchange 5.5.. You have to disable it to reap those benefits. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:03 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Circular logging doesn't come into it. You simply wouldn't use it on a mailbox server. The difference is simple: scenario 1 means you lose that day's email, scenario 2 you don't. In scenario 1, if you lose 2 disks, you ain't gonna have your log files. Also, with a -1018 error, I wouldn't bother attempting to repair the database. Would you seriously use eseutil /p on a production database? The recommended method is to restore from
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
You can't blame the product...you do have to keep up with the engine updates if you want a product to work. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Very sad. I used GroupShield for a long time and had nothing but problems. If you can swing the $$, there are much much better products out there - Antigen (my favorite), Trend... Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Turned out to be the Groupshield antivirus. It had not updated its engine in a while. The last dat file it downloaded was not supported by the old engine and he defaulted to blocking all attachments since he didnt know what to do. Thanks for all the suggestions!! Craig -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential to National Grid and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the National Grid USA Help desk on 508-389-3375. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Ok What you just said You can also shut the server down, and restart with NO OS Changes and have it come back on-line. You can also shut down, replace the drive, and bring it back up if you don't have hot swap, and rebuild in the Controller BIOS, of bring it up to the OS and have the OS Utilities rebuild in background. If you have hot swap disks, as any good server should have, you don't have to do that with RAID 5. You do with RAID 1 That is my point. -Original Message- From: Dennis Atherton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The whole point depends on the way the tasks are done. If the RAID 1 (Mirror) is done in hardware, it is the same as a hardware RAID 5 - on the controllers that I have used. Adaptec 7800 RAID; Compaq 221,2DH, 3200 4200, 5200 and others; Promise IDE Raid SX6000, TX100, and motherboard integrated Even the Promise IDE RAID Controllers can suffer a failed drive in a mirror, and not have any downtime. The drive is marked as down, and you can hot swap with another, and have it rebuild in the background. You can also shut the server down, and restart with NO OS Changes and have it come back on-line. You can also shut down, replace the drive, and bring it back up if you don't have hot swap, and rebuild in the Controller BIOS, of bring it up to the OS and have the OS Utilities rebuild in background. The above works on RAID 5 and RAID 1 on the Promise controllers that support both. Dennis -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? If a RAID 1 set has a failed disk , you HAVE to break the mirror and recreate the mirror with the new disk. This means Server downtime. If a RAID 5 set has a failed disk, you simply replace the disk (especially hot pluggable) and the server STAYS RUNNING.. NO downtime on the server. RAID 5 was designed for this. It does not give you the same downtime when you have to down the server, replace the disk and recreate the mirror.. RAID 5 will know you replaced the failed disk and rebuild it on the fly. The server may see some performance degredation, but it will stay running..and you dont need to down the server at all. Replaying the log files most certainly does come into play when you create a new DB.. Ive gone thru this with PSS! -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? How does a RAID 1 (mirroring) not keep you running in the event of a failure? I'm curious. It most certainly IS fault-tolerant. If you lose a disk from RAID 1, you are still running. You don't HAVE to run maintenance until you decide to. Now, certainly, it would be idiotic NOT to replace the failed disk right away and break/re-create the mirror, but with newer RAID controllers, you can even do this online. RAID 5 will give you the EXACT same downtime. You replace the dead drive, and you wait while your RAID controller rebuilds the stripe set. But again, what is the difference between the 2 in terms of time? What, a couple of minutes? I do concede that AS LONG as your databases and log files are kept on separate spindles, then I personally don't care whether you use RAID 1 or 5. Replaying the log files comes into play when you restore the database from tape backup. I don't think it applies to creating a new database. Circular logging IS on by default, but most Exchange admins with experience (meaning those that know about Exchange and its features and why certain features are used and why others aren't) turn that feature off as one of the first steps once they build a server. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? My whole point is.. Why ever use anything less than a RAID 5, (unless something like Oracle NEEDS it), on a production box when a RAID 5 configuration can keep ya running in the event of a disk failure. Youre talking the cost of 1 disk.. Whats that in comparision to the time it takes you to break the mirror, replace the disk, and recreate the mirror? If I got a -1018 error, Id attempt to repair the DB, the exmerge the data out.. Create a new DB and exmerge the data back in.. Ive done with with PSS on the phone twice due to the cluster we HAD screwing up the DB. It didn't matter that our log files were on the RAID 1 partition or on the disk where the DB was. Cirular logging is enabled by default on Exchange 5.5.. You have
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
I did stay up with the product - and so have many other people. The product has some major flaws that support is unable to resolve and you only find out about it after you've been hit. In the reported case below - I agree it was a mistake of not keeping up. But overall, the product leaves a lot to be desired. If you search the archives - you'll find more people dislike Groupshield than like it. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Exchange Discussion Group [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can't blame the product...you do have to keep up with the engine updates if you want a product to work. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Very sad. I used GroupShield for a long time and had nothing but problems. If you can swing the $$, there are much much better products out there - Antigen (my favorite), Trend... Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Turned out to be the Groupshield antivirus. It had not updated its engine in a while. The last dat file it downloaded was not supported by the old engine and he defaulted to blocking all attachments since he didnt know what to do. Thanks for all the suggestions!! Craig -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
NO, You do not have to do that with RAID 1, but you can if you wish. Raid controller for RAID 1 will allow you to do rebuild in OS. -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Ok What you just said You can also shut the server down, and restart with NO OS Changes and have it come back on-line. You can also shut down, replace the drive, and bring it back up if you don't have hot swap, and rebuild in the Controller BIOS, of bring it up to the OS and have the OS Utilities rebuild in background. If you have hot swap disks, as any good server should have, you don't have to do that with RAID 5. You do with RAID 1 That is my point. -Original Message- From: Dennis Atherton [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The whole point depends on the way the tasks are done. If the RAID 1 (Mirror) is done in hardware, it is the same as a hardware RAID 5 - on the controllers that I have used. Adaptec 7800 RAID; Compaq 221,2DH, 3200 4200, 5200 and others; Promise IDE Raid SX6000, TX100, and motherboard integrated Even the Promise IDE RAID Controllers can suffer a failed drive in a mirror, and not have any downtime. The drive is marked as down, and you can hot swap with another, and have it rebuild in the background. You can also shut the server down, and restart with NO OS Changes and have it come back on-line. You can also shut down, replace the drive, and bring it back up if you don't have hot swap, and rebuild in the Controller BIOS, of bring it up to the OS and have the OS Utilities rebuild in background. The above works on RAID 5 and RAID 1 on the Promise controllers that support both. Dennis -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? If a RAID 1 set has a failed disk , you HAVE to break the mirror and recreate the mirror with the new disk. This means Server downtime. If a RAID 5 set has a failed disk, you simply replace the disk (especially hot pluggable) and the server STAYS RUNNING.. NO downtime on the server. RAID 5 was designed for this. It does not give you the same downtime when you have to down the server, replace the disk and recreate the mirror.. RAID 5 will know you replaced the failed disk and rebuild it on the fly. The server may see some performance degredation, but it will stay running..and you dont need to down the server at all. Replaying the log files most certainly does come into play when you create a new DB.. Ive gone thru this with PSS! -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? How does a RAID 1 (mirroring) not keep you running in the event of a failure? I'm curious. It most certainly IS fault-tolerant. If you lose a disk from RAID 1, you are still running. You don't HAVE to run maintenance until you decide to. Now, certainly, it would be idiotic NOT to replace the failed disk right away and break/re-create the mirror, but with newer RAID controllers, you can even do this online. RAID 5 will give you the EXACT same downtime. You replace the dead drive, and you wait while your RAID controller rebuilds the stripe set. But again, what is the difference between the 2 in terms of time? What, a couple of minutes? I do concede that AS LONG as your databases and log files are kept on separate spindles, then I personally don't care whether you use RAID 1 or 5. Replaying the log files comes into play when you restore the database from tape backup. I don't think it applies to creating a new database. Circular logging IS on by default, but most Exchange admins with experience (meaning those that know about Exchange and its features and why certain features are used and why others aren't) turn that feature off as one of the first steps once they build a server. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? My whole point is.. Why ever use anything less than a RAID 5, (unless something like Oracle NEEDS it), on a production box when a RAID 5 configuration can keep ya running in the event of a disk failure. Youre talking the cost of 1 disk.. Whats that in comparision to the time it takes you to break the mirror,
Lost Exchange start menu items
Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
In all fairness, scenario 2 should loose 2 drives (RAID1), too. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction logs. What's the difference now? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other reason to put Log files on a Mirrored partition. Its not fault tolerant.. At least not on the fly.. If 1 drive fails, ya gotta break the mirror.. If its RAID 5, it will still run. If its not a performance issue to put them on their own Mirrored partition, why would you do it? Is it just to keep them safe in case your database drive goes down? If that happens, youre still Skrewed -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The primary reason for putting logs on their own drive is not a performance reason. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:14 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I would put exchange and your pdc on a Dual PIII 733 MHZ processor ..minimum.. With at least 1 GB of RAM and no less than 40 GB of RAID 5 storage. Ive run Exchange on the RAID1 for logs, RAID 1 for OS and RAID 5 for the database specs.. And I see NO increase in peformance than if it was all on a RAID 5 partition. -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it. Microsoft says you should have one domain controller for each 1 accounts if I remember correctly, and this was written in the days of Pentium Pro 100s being a kick butt machine. Unless you have thousands of users I really don't see the domain controller resource drain a bar to putting an exchange box on a PDC. However I would not recommend putting it on a box with anything else. It was a real bitch having to take down the DHCP for a day when I had to clean out the I Love you virus. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our PDC from a P75 to a P133 32MB RAM that's still in production. IF you can afford Exchange, you can afford a cheap BDC. I applaud your dedication to those companies. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? In the majority of shops I manage - there is no choice. Single server shops where the cost to have a BDC or even MS is over the budget. Keep in mind - the hardware is only a
RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration
Title: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration How much are you willing to pay for this great service? ;o) -Original Message-From: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Does anyone have some time to talk off-line about this procedure? I have read all the relevant TechNet information ( of which this is quite a lot), and my head is swimming. I'd really appreciate speaking directly to someone who has done this. Network is very simple NT 4.0 PDC (1) BDC (1) Exchange 5.5 Server TIA Chris Bodnar Network Engineer Essent Corporation 610-559- X:24List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? If it is mirrored you have to lose both drives to lose the data. -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The difference is you don't use Circular logging,and you backup your logfiles AND your exchange DB.. You can then get back to the point of failure.. If you have your logfiles, and your disk is still running, you can repair the Db and be back up and running to the point of failure. Even if youre idea is better.. Why a RAID 1? Why not a RAID 5? What happens when youre RAID1 logfile loses a member of the mirror? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Scenario 1: Your logs and databases are both on the same RAID5 array. Your last full online backup was last night at 11pm. Today, at 4pm, your database gets corrupt. Say you notice a -1018, or two disks in the RAID5 array have failed, or whatever. All you therefore have is last night's backup. Tell me, what does that mean? Scenario 2: The same as scenario 1, except your logs are on a separate RAID1 array. You therefore have last night's backup, plus the transaction logs. What's the difference now? Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:29 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Can you quote the reasons for it. I honestly don't see any other reason to put Log files on a Mirrored partition. Its not fault tolerant.. At least not on the fly.. If 1 drive fails, ya gotta break the mirror.. If its RAID 5, it will still run. If its not a performance issue to put them on their own Mirrored partition, why would you do it? Is it just to keep them safe in case your database drive goes down? If that happens, youre still Skrewed -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The primary reason for putting logs on their own drive is not a performance reason. Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 22 February 2002 15:14 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I would put exchange and your pdc on a Dual PIII 733 MHZ processor ..minimum.. With at least 1 GB of RAM and no less than 40 GB of RAID 5 storage. Ive run Exchange on the RAID1 for logs, RAID 1 for OS and RAID 5 for the database specs.. And I see NO increase in peformance than if it was all on a RAID 5 partition. -Original Message- From: Majetic, John RAME [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? I had our exchange server on an Pentium Pro 100 HP net sever with 196 MB of ram for about the first year we used exchange. It was the PDC, DHCP Server, Primary WINS, Ras server with 8 VPN ports and the exchange server with 180 boxes on it. Processor utilization rarely got above 50 percent. Lack of Hard Drive space, and memory, 196 MB was max for that box, were the reasons I took exchange off of it. Microsoft says you should have one domain controller for each 1 accounts if I remember correctly, and this was written in the days of Pentium Pro 100s being a kick butt machine. Unless you have thousands of users I really don't see the domain controller resource drain a bar to putting an exchange box on a PDC. However I would not recommend putting it on a box with anything else. It was a real bitch having to take down the DHCP for a day when I had to clean out the I Love you virus. John Majetic -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:31 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Wow, I thought my PDC (P133 with 128MB of RAM) was bad... -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Dude... I upgraded our
Exchange 5.5 move mailbox and delegate permissions
Title: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Hi, I am encountering an issue when moving users from one server to another in the same site under Exchange 5.5 and SP4. The delegate permissions are stored in the Directory so why would I lose delegation permissions when using the move mailbox utility? Thanks, Darrin Carter List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
If you have policies enabled and tell the policy to hide common menu folders that may do it. Look in the All Users folder under your profiles directory if you have the folders still there then the above may be your problem. Darrin -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: Message Ben is right. You can do the same thing with a hot-swappable RAID1 array. Just unplug the bad one and plug in the new one (the way I understand it anyway, havent had a failure on one yet) and it rebuilds, all online. -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? If a RAID 1 set has a failed disk , you HAVE to break the mirror and recreate the mirror with the new disk. This means Server downtime. If a RAID 5 set has a failed disk, you simply replace the disk (especially hot pluggable) and the server STAYS RUNNING.. NO downtime on the server. RAID 5 was designedfor this. It does not give you the same downtime when you have to down the server, replace the disk and recreate the mirror.. RAID 5 will know you replaced the failed disk and rebuild it on the fly. The server may see some performance degredation, but it will stay running..and you dont need to down the server at all. Replaying the log files most certainly does come into play when you create a new DB.. Ive gone thru this with PSS! -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? How does a RAID 1 (mirroring) not keep you running in the event of a failure? I'm curious. It most certainly IS fault-tolerant. If you lose a disk from RAID 1, you are still running. You don't HAVE to run maintenance until you decide to. Now, certainly, it would be idiotic NOT to replace the failed disk right away and break/re-create the mirror, but with newer RAID controllers, you can even do this online. RAID 5 will give you the EXACT same downtime. You replace the dead drive, and you wait while your RAID controller rebuilds the stripe set. But again, what is the difference between the 2 in terms of time? What, a couple of minutes? I do concede that AS LONG as your databases and log files are kept on separate spindles, then I personally don't care whether you use RAID 1 or 5. Replaying the log files comes into play when you restore the database from tape backup. I don't think it applies to creating a new database. Circular logging IS on by default, but most Exchange admins with experience (meaning those that know about Exchange and its features and why certain features are used and why others aren't) turn that feature off as one of the first steps once they build a server. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC?
Title: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? That is an incorrect point though. If you have any decent, hot-swappable RAID controller/drives, it works exactly the same for RAID1 as it does for RAID5. The comment you quoted was if you DIDNT have hot-swappable drives. -Original Message- From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? Ok What you just said You can also shut the server down, and restart with NO OS Changes and have it come back on-line. You can also shut down, replace the drive, and bring it back up if you don't have hot swap, and rebuild in the Controller BIOS, of bring it up to the OS and have the OS Utilities rebuild in background. If you have hot swap disks, as any good server should have, you don't have to do that with RAID 5. You do with RAID 1 That is my point. -Original Message- From: Dennis Atherton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Why would anyone install Exchange on a PDC? The whole point depends on the way the tasks are done. If the RAID 1 (Mirror) is done in hardware, it is the same as a hardware RAID 5 - on the controllers that I have used. Adaptec 7800 RAID; Compaq 221,2DH, 3200 4200, 5200 and others; Promise IDE Raid SX6000, TX100, and motherboard integrated Even the Promise IDE RAID Controllers can suffer a failed drive in a mirror, and not have any downtime. The drive is marked as down, and you can hot swap with another, and have it rebuild in the background. You can also shut the server down, and restart with NO OS Changes and have it come back on-line. You can also shut down, replace the drive, and bring it back up if you don't have hot swap, and rebuild in the Controller BIOS, of bring it up to the OS and have the OS Utilities rebuild in background. The above works on RAID 5 and RAID 1 on the Promise controllers that support both. Dennis List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
Thanks William, I was hoping you would see this. Exch 5.5, sp4. Same thing whether Admin is logged in or myself, and yes they are in the bin. Tools seem to be there, can we get then back to the program menu is my next question, ie the Prof Moni settings. Thanks Mike Johnson -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
No polices set and it's gone from the all users profile also. Thanks, Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items If you have policies enabled and tell the policy to hide common menu folders that may do it. Look in the All Users folder under your profiles directory if you have the folders still there then the above may be your problem. Darrin -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
That has happened to me after installing ScanMail. Anything installed lately? Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items No polices set and it's gone from the all users profile also. Thanks, Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items If you have policies enabled and tell the policy to hide common menu folders that may do it. Look in the All Users folder under your profiles directory if you have the folders still there then the above may be your problem. Darrin -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
Odd. Windows2000 or NT? Does exadmin.exe still run? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Thanks William, I was hoping you would see this. Exch 5.5, sp4. Same thing whether Admin is logged in or myself, and yes they are in the bin. Tools seem to be there, can we get then back to the program menu is my next question, ie the Prof Moni settings. Thanks Mike Johnson -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
Did you make sure to check for hidden folders? Take ownership/re-perk permissions in the folder to make sure they haven't changed? If it's not hidden somehow, do you have a workstation with the same tools loaded? If so, copy the program group shortcuts over from that workstation back to the server's all users\start menu\programs folder. When you're done, set the files/ntfs permissions to read only for administrators and everyone else and turn on file auditing in the folder so they can't be deleted again so easily ;) -Bonnie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items No polices set and it's gone from the all users profile also. Thanks, Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items If you have policies enabled and tell the policy to hide common menu folders that may do it. Look in the All Users folder under your profiles directory if you have the folders still there then the above may be your problem. Darrin -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: exmerge
Great idea! I have a lot of users that use OWA so the rule will not work but a public folder seems like a great idea. Thanks!! David -Original Message- From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge Public Folder, no replicas. Rule to move Spam automagically to the SPAM Public Folder. -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 08:43 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge What I am doing is having everyone(700+ users) create a spam folder under their inbox used to place spam that they receive and using exmerge to pull all their messages to psts. What I would like to do is have all the messages go into one pst and not 700. This would not even be close to 2GB of data. Any ideas? David -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: exmerge Why would you want to? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: David White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: exmerge Greetings, How can I use exmerge to pull all the mail out of a folder in each user's mailbox and put it into 1 pst instead of 1 each user. [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration
Title: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Sorry to bother you Bill, please ignore the request. Chris Bodnar Network Engineer Essent Corporation 610-559- X:24 -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration How much are you willing to pay for this great service? ;o) -Original Message- From: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Does anyone have some time to talk off-line about this procedure? I have read all the relevant TechNet information ( of which this is quite a lot), and my head is swimming. I'd really appreciate speaking directly to someone who has done this. Network is very simple NT 4.0 PDC (1) BDC (1) Exchange 5.5 Server TIA Chris Bodnar Network Engineer Essent Corporation 610-559- X:24 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration
Title: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Who's this Bill person? -Original Message-From: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Sorry to bother you Bill, please ignore the request. Chris Bodnar Network Engineer Essent Corporation 610-559- X:24 -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration How much are you willing to pay for this great service? ;o) -Original Message-From: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Does anyone have some time to talk off-line about this procedure? I have read all the relevant TechNet information ( of which this is quite a lot), and my head is swimming. I'd really appreciate speaking directly to someone who has done this. Network is very simple NT 4.0 PDC (1) BDC (1) Exchange 5.5 Server TIA Chris Bodnar Network Engineer Essent Corporation 610-559- X:24 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
You know, come to think about it, I did install Win Messaging yesterday,and I sure it was there before I did it. That has to be it. -Original Message- From: Cross, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items That has happened to me after installing ScanMail. Anything installed lately? Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items No polices set and it's gone from the all users profile also. Thanks, Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items If you have policies enabled and tell the policy to hide common menu folders that may do it. Look in the All Users folder under your profiles directory if you have the folders still there then the above may be your problem. Darrin -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
Thanks Bonnie, will try that, no hidden folders and no one has rights except admin types. I reload Win Mess for a backup program, so I think thats when the programs got lost. Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Did you make sure to check for hidden folders? Take ownership/re-perk permissions in the folder to make sure they haven't changed? If it's not hidden somehow, do you have a workstation with the same tools loaded? If so, copy the program group shortcuts over from that workstation back to the server's all users\start menu\programs folder. When you're done, set the files/ntfs permissions to read only for administrators and everyone else and turn on file auditing in the folder so they can't be deleted again so easily ;) -Bonnie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items No polices set and it's gone from the all users profile also. Thanks, Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items If you have policies enabled and tell the policy to hide common menu folders that may do it. Look in the All Users folder under your profiles directory if you have the folders still there then the above may be your problem. Darrin -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
Win NT sp6a, yes it does, I'm using it now. MJ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Odd. Windows2000 or NT? Does exadmin.exe still run? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Thanks William, I was hoping you would see this. Exch 5.5, sp4. Same thing whether Admin is logged in or myself, and yes they are in the bin. Tools seem to be there, can we get then back to the program menu is my next question, ie the Prof Moni settings. Thanks Mike Johnson -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
public folder: unread count
System: Windows 2000 Server SP2 With AD Exchange Server 2000 SP1 Problem: With my inbox, through outlook, I can see how many unread items I have next to the inbox folder, in blue parentheses. I have public folders where all the posts from this list are put, and I'm telling exchange to make the views specific to each user who looks at the folder. Is there any way to make the public folder display how many unread items there are in the public folders? It's not a problem or anything, but it would just be nice. Thanks, Paul --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 2/19/2002 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration
Title: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Maybe it's the bill you're getting ready to send him... -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:13 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Who's this Bill person? -Original Message-From: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:54 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Sorry to bother you Bill, please ignore the request. Chris Bodnar Network Engineer Essent Corporation 610-559- X:24 -Original Message-From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:20 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration How much are you willing to pay for this great service? ;o) -Original Message-From: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Exchange 5.5 E2K migration Does anyone have some time to talk off-line about this procedure? I have read all the relevant TechNet information ( of which this is quite a lot), and my head is swimming. I'd really appreciate speaking directly to someone who has done this. Network is very simple NT 4.0 PDC (1) BDC (1) Exchange 5.5 Server TIA Chris Bodnar Network Engineer Essent Corporation 610-559- X:24 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
I fixed it thanks to Bonnie.Also thxs to William and Tom for jogging my memory.Fix was moving Exch folder from old server to new. Work like a charm. Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Win NT sp6a, yes it does, I'm using it now. MJ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Odd. Windows2000 or NT? Does exadmin.exe still run? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Thanks William, I was hoping you would see this. Exch 5.5, sp4. Same thing whether Admin is logged in or myself, and yes they are in the bin. Tools seem to be there, can we get then back to the program menu is my next question, ie the Prof Moni settings. Thanks Mike Johnson -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Steven
I think the confusion was StevEN and Steve ENS... hehe Lets get him anyway, just cuz there are some empty seats on the bandwagon Michael - Original Message - From: Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: RE: Steven I'm not too worried, we're behind a Sonicwall here...pretty secure. -Original Message- From: Glen Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Steven There he is! Get him! (But seriously, Huh?) --- Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am Steven, but my servers are fine! (I think) -Original Message- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Steven Who is for destroying this mans server? Milton R Dogg Spam this list and Get pissed on by the Big Doggs List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
Great. I was told it was a feature. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items I fixed it thanks to Bonnie.Also thxs to William and Tom for jogging my memory.Fix was moving Exch folder from old server to new. Work like a charm. Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Win NT sp6a, yes it does, I'm using it now. MJ -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Odd. Windows2000 or NT? Does exadmin.exe still run? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items Thanks William, I was hoping you would see this. Exch 5.5, sp4. Same thing whether Admin is logged in or myself, and yes they are in the bin. Tools seem to be there, can we get then back to the program menu is my next question, ie the Prof Moni settings. Thanks Mike Johnson -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Lost Exchange start menu items
Do a quick reinstall all of the XCH or SP. -Original Message- From: Cross, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items That has happened to me after installing ScanMail. Anything installed lately? Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items No polices set and it's gone from the all users profile also. Thanks, Mike Johnson GRFLLP -Original Message- From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items If you have policies enabled and tell the policy to hide common menu folders that may do it. Look in the All Users folder under your profiles directory if you have the folders still there then the above may be your problem. Darrin -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lost Exchange start menu items What version? Different person logged in? Is the app in the bin folder? You can reinstall the tools usually without issue. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Lost Exchange start menu items Morning, We seem to have lost the Exchange program startups from the Start--Programs --- Exchange. They were there when we installed it, but they seemed to have disappeared. The server is working fine and there are no event logs pointing to any errors in application. Can we run the setup program to get them back, or let sleeping dogs lay? We can still get to the admin program via a shortcut on the desktop. Strange for sure. TIA Mike Johnson GRFLLP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Exchange 5.5 or 2000
I want to implement Exchange but am not sure whether to install 5.5 or 2000. Is 2000 stable? Any suggestions would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
# of users ? More info needed.. Yes, it is stable -Original Message- From: Henry Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 16:06 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 I want to implement Exchange but am not sure whether to install 5.5 or 2000. Is 2000 stable? Any suggestions would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
This is for our in-house system. No more than 10-users. Primarily want to install to start learning the system. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
Have you got Win2K with AD? You need it for E2K. -Original Message- From: Henry Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 This is for our in-house system. No more than 10-users. Primarily want to install to start learning the system. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
What type of NT domain do you have? If you have an NT4 domain, E55. If you have AD, try E2K. -Original Message- From: Henry Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 I want to implement Exchange but am not sure whether to install 5.5 or 2000. Is 2000 stable? Any suggestions would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
What SP level and what AV package? Have you tried turning AV off? -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
I KNEW IT WOULD BE POOPSHIELD!!! -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Turned out to be the Groupshield antivirus. It had not updated its engine in a while. The last dat file it downloaded was not supported by the old engine and he defaulted to blocking all attachments since he didnt know what to do. Thanks for all the suggestions!! Craig -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
Yes, ADS is installed already. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
Ok, this one time out of 50 we wont blame the product. -Original Message- From: Exchange Discussion Group [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can't blame the product...you do have to keep up with the engine updates if you want a product to work. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Very sad. I used GroupShield for a long time and had nothing but problems. If you can swing the $$, there are much much better products out there - Antigen (my favorite), Trend... Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Turned out to be the Groupshield antivirus. It had not updated its engine in a while. The last dat file it downloaded was not supported by the old engine and he defaulted to blocking all attachments since he didnt know what to do. Thanks for all the suggestions!! Craig -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential to National Grid and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the National Grid USA
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
Geez - where ya been. Waiting on your comments for a while now. Napping again? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Ok, this one time out of 50 we wont blame the product. -Original Message- From: Exchange Discussion Group [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can't blame the product...you do have to keep up with the engine updates if you want a product to work. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Very sad. I used GroupShield for a long time and had nothing but problems. If you can swing the $$, there are much much better products out there - Antigen (my favorite), Trend... Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Turned out to be the Groupshield antivirus. It had not updated its engine in a while. The last dat file it downloaded was not supported by the old engine and he defaulted to blocking all attachments since he didnt know what to do. Thanks for all the suggestions!! Craig -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment, it tries for a second then says Cant open one or more attachments. There's nothing in the logs/event list. Any Ideas? Or any one run accross this before? Craig List Charter and FAQ at:
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
Please be sure to include the text below your message so we know who you are replying too. -Original Message- From: Henry Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 Yes, ADS is installed already. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
Exchange2000 is as stable as the person installing it. -Original Message- From: Henry Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 I want to implement Exchange but am not sure whether to install 5.5 or 2000. Is 2000 stable? Any suggestions would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
Excellent point. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 Exchange2000 is as stable as the person installing it. -Original Message- From: Henry Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 I want to implement Exchange but am not sure whether to install 5.5 or 2000. Is 2000 stable? Any suggestions would be appreciated. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
Is your domain a win2k or NT4 domain? ~ -K.Borndale IT Manager Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |-+-- | | Henry Ward | | | henryw@wardassocia| | | tesinc.com| | | | | | 02/22/2002 04:24 PM| | | Please respond to | | | MS-Exchange Admin | | | Issues| | | | |-+-- --| | | | To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 | --| This is for our in-house system. No more than 10-users. Primarily want to install to start learning the system. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Cant open one or more attachments
No. Long lunch!! -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Geez - where ya been. Waiting on your comments for a while now. Napping again? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Ok, this one time out of 50 we wont blame the product. -Original Message- From: Exchange Discussion Group [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:51 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can't blame the product...you do have to keep up with the engine updates if you want a product to work. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Very sad. I used GroupShield for a long time and had nothing but problems. If you can swing the $$, there are much much better products out there - Antigen (my favorite), Trend... Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Turned out to be the Groupshield antivirus. It had not updated its engine in a while. The last dat file it downloaded was not supported by the old engine and he defaulted to blocking all attachments since he didnt know what to do. Thanks for all the suggestions!! Craig -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments You can search the KB - there is a list. If it is stripping ALL, then I would look at Exchange. If it only strips particular few - use the OWA and open the attachments. Otherwise, it's by design. Good luck. Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Yep, I was wondering if they'd just run one of the security patches for Outlook that blocked attachments.. or if they had updated or installed new antivirus software that might be stripping/blocking attachments. -Original Message- From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Cant open one or more attachments Outlook blocking for security? Steve Clark Clark Systems Support, LLC AVIEN Charter Member Who's watching your network? www.clarksupport.com 301-610-9584 voice 240-465-0323 Efax The data furnished in connection with this document is deemed by Clark Systems Support, LLC., to contain proprietary and privileged information and shall not be disclosed or used for the benefit of others without the prior written permission of Clark Systems Support, LLC. -Original Message- From: Craig Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Cant open one or more attachments Maybe someone can help me. Our Exchange (5.5) is dropping attachments or so it seems. When we send internal (or external) email, and attach (anything -txt, pdf, exe) a file, the recipient sees the attachment paperclip in the received list, but not on the preview pane as normal. when you try to open the attachment,
RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
We have W2K Server with ADS installed. Henry Ward List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Rules are not working correctly
Actually it appears that outlook will sometimes copy messages to there proper location instead of moving them. The rule is set up to move yet sometimes it will move other times it will copy. If I run the rules again manually then the copies still in the inbox get moved to there proper folder however there are now two copies of that one message. -Original Message- From: Tim Chadbourne Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Rules are not working correctly I am running Exchange Server 2000 and Outlook 2002. I have created rules for most of the mail that I receive, but for some reason, Outlook is not applying the rules as it should. I can create a rule for a particular message, one that I receive every day and outlook will move them to the selected folder. As email comes in during the day some of the emails are moved and some aren't. When I run the rules manually the messages there were not moved initially are moved to there proper folder. These rules were working fine using pop and a pst but now that I moved to exchange they are not working. Tim Chadbourne Systems Administrator Northwestern State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
STU _ MAIL LOOP _ RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000
-Original Message- From: Henry Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 or 2000 We have W2K Server with ADS installed. Henry Ward List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
