Re: Blackberry Outage.. here we go again...
I have users in Arizona telling me no email on BB since before 6 a.m. No reports from Oklahoma users so far. On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: So far, so good in Winnipeg. Perhaps the snow has something to do with it. Finally got some white stuff last night. On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: *knock on wood* So far I'm working ok. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry Outage.. here we go again... Yup, seeing it here too starting about 0920EST; BIS service seems to still work. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:49 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry Outage.. here we go again... Awaiting formal confirmation. . --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: little help understanding header info
I don't think I said that. (if I did, it was my keyboard's fault)! TC has asserted all along that they enforce NO size limits on email. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: You say that your TulsaConnect IS enforcing size limits, and you're not. So, besides everything in the header referencing TulsaConnect, I would still be leaning towards at least finding out what their limit is that they're enforcing, and whether or not you can get them to raise that limit. Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com 5/6/2011 7:49 AM I have been asked a number of times by owners to adjust the email size limit up so pictures of grand-babies will not be blocked or filtered off. Our email is routed through our ISP/Datacenter before being handed off to a Brightmail filter, then forwarded to the appropriate exchange server. The 10.1.9.8 address is the internal address of said filter. I should have called them before I posted this, I know, but I would rather stick a fork in my head... Can anyone tell from this header if it is MY problem, either with an exchange setting I have overlooked or a problem with the filter? TulsaConnect has assured me they are enforcing size limits on email. 10 meg seems to be the limit at this point, although I have opened up everything on our end considerably higher than that. thanks for any help. I'm just asking for help understanding the contents of this bounce please, unless you can determine from the content of the header that this may be an exchange problem... thanks for any help: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - xx...@companymail.com (reason: 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to [67.214.102.28]: MAIL From:x...@yahoo.com SIZE=30433191 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns; mscan4.tulsaconnect.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; xx...@companymail.com Action: failed Status: 5.3.4 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:21:19 -0500 Return-Path: ...@yahoo.com Received: from mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p46EJdAI004340 for xxx...@companymail.com; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Received: from omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ( omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.92]) by mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (mscan4.tulsaconnect.com [67.214.101.67]) envelope-from xxx...@yahoo.com with SMTP id n459Jd1776718739ZQ ret-id none; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 96059 invoked by uid 1000); 6 May 2011 14:19:38 - Received: (qmail 74424 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 14:19:32 - DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304691561; bh=pn4FE+SR65YTvA5pXDzmFkRoVIIF7uaA7DxpPitMJ10=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ri21sjwBmDXi5wwM5pxe0cW+CDbqYGUoouCXCp41ddc86JiGHLRP5/dwFZvTkrzestPC0F/y5ZT95TRn1OEvbqgQxmeiYaHMlbGR4gMiVI59ejEmkpAAUbmNUtURCLE5cHNexwRUvOogoMG8IJbHQV3+his6o1WUsTr3lHoXtyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: little help understanding header info
To answer your question, the offending rejected email is almost always jpegs... grandbaby pics. we have tested using jpegs and a collection of pdf's and other random files compressed together in one attachment. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't happen to be some sort of a .docx/.xlsx/etc type of file would it? I had the same sort of thing drive me crazy until I found out that an 8mb .xlsx file (well within our limits) actually translated to a 57mb expanded file (try using winzip to unzip the file to see it's *true* size). On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: From those headers it appears that Exchange was willing to send an email that size, but the server at tulsaconnect.com [67.214.102.28] wouldn’t accept it. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* little help understanding header info I have been asked a number of times by owners to adjust the email size limit up so pictures of grand-babies will not be blocked or filtered off. Our email is routed through our ISP/Datacenter before being handed off to a Brightmail filter, then forwarded to the appropriate exchange server. The 10.1.9.8 address is the internal address of said filter. I should have called them before I posted this, I know, but I would rather stick a fork in my head... Can anyone tell from this header if it is MY problem, either with an exchange setting I have overlooked or a problem with the filter? TulsaConnect has assured me they are enforcing size limits on email. 10 meg seems to be the limit at this point, although I have opened up everything on our end considerably higher than that. thanks for any help. I'm just asking for help understanding the contents of this bounce please, unless you can determine from the content of the header that this may be an exchange problem... thanks for any help: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - xx...@companymail.com (reason: 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to [67.214.102.28]: MAIL From:x...@yahoo.com SIZE=30433191 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns; mscan4.tulsaconnect.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; xx...@companymail.com Action: failed Status: 5.3.4 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:21:19 -0500 Return-Path: ...@yahoo.com Received: from mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p46EJdAI004340 for xxx...@companymail.com; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Received: from omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ( omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.92]) by mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (mscan4.tulsaconnect.com [67.214.101.67]) envelope-from xxx...@yahoo.com with SMTP id n459Jd1776718739ZQ ret-id none; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 96059 invoked by uid 1000); 6 May 2011 14:19:38 - Received: (qmail 74424 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 14:19:32 - DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304691561; bh=pn4FE+SR65YTvA5pXDzmFkRoVIIF7uaA7DxpPitMJ10=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ri21sjwBmDXi5wwM5pxe0cW+CDbqYGUoouCXCp41ddc86JiGHLRP5/dwFZvTkrzestPC0F/y5ZT95TRn1OEvbqgQxmeiYaHMlbGR4gMiVI59ejEmkpAAUbmNUtURCLE5cHNexwRUvOogoMG8IJbHQV3+his6o1WUsTr3lHoXtyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
Re: little help understanding header info
I wonder if my Brightmail filter is guilty of this behavior, but it LOOKS like it's actually exchange, not Brightmail that is refusing the message. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: If they are straight .jpg attachments then I agreebutI have had users drop pictures into word documents and had this issue. I know that Vipre for Exchange actually *does* look at the uncompressed size when determining whether or not to let it through. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: I wouldn’t think it would make any difference in the scenario you described. JPG files are already compressed. If you try to zip a jpg, it actually gets bigger. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:03 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: little help understanding header info Wow, is it really possible that the uncompressed size of the attachment is what counts in the over-all size limit That changes things DRAMATICALLY!!! On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't happen to be some sort of a .docx/.xlsx/etc type of file would it? I had the same sort of thing drive me crazy until I found out that an 8mb .xlsx file (well within our limits) actually translated to a 57mb expanded file (try using winzip to unzip the file to see it's *true* size). On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: From those headers it appears that Exchange was willing to send an email that size, but the server at tulsaconnect.com [67.214.102.28] wouldn’t accept it. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* little help understanding header info I have been asked a number of times by owners to adjust the email size limit up so pictures of grand-babies will not be blocked or filtered off. Our email is routed through our ISP/Datacenter before being handed off to a Brightmail filter, then forwarded to the appropriate exchange server. The 10.1.9.8 address is the internal address of said filter. I should have called them before I posted this, I know, but I would rather stick a fork in my head... Can anyone tell from this header if it is MY problem, either with an exchange setting I have overlooked or a problem with the filter? TulsaConnect has assured me they are enforcing size limits on email. 10 meg seems to be the limit at this point, although I have opened up everything on our end considerably higher than that. thanks for any help. I'm just asking for help understanding the contents of this bounce please, unless you can determine from the content of the header that this may be an exchange problem... thanks for any help: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - xx...@companymail.com (reason: 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to [67.214.102.28]: MAIL From:x...@yahoo.com SIZE=30433191 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns; mscan4.tulsaconnect.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; xx...@companymail.com Action: failed Status: 5.3.4 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:21:19 -0500 Return-Path: ...@yahoo.com Received: from mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p46EJdAI004340 for xxx...@companymail.com; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Received: from omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ( omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.92]) by mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (mscan4.tulsaconnect.com [67.214.101.67]) envelope-from xxx...@yahoo.com with SMTP id n459Jd1776718739ZQ ret-id none; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 96059 invoked by uid 1000); 6 May 2011 14:19:38 - Received: (qmail 74424 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 14:19:32 - DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304691561; bh=pn4FE+SR65YTvA5pXDzmFkRoVIIF7uaA7DxpPitMJ10=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ri21sjwBmDXi5wwM5pxe0cW+CDbqYGUoouCXCp41ddc86JiGHLRP5/dwFZvTkrzestPC0F/y5ZT95TRn1OEvbqgQxmeiYaHMlbGR4gMiVI59ejEmkpAAUbmNUtURCLE5cHNexwRUvOogoMG8IJbHQV3+his6o1WUsTr3lHoXtyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
Re: little help understanding header info
Thank you Rob and Jim. That 67.214.102.28 is one of MY public IP's that the firewall routes to my filter, internal IP 10.1.9.8. I should have included that detail. I AM able to send outbound messages with 15 meg attachements, and I can send internally from one exchange domain to another with same attachments. One of our owners has a daughter in Sweden with the first grandchild, born this year and she would prefer to receive emails to her company email, rather than the hotmail account she is forced to use because I can't figure this out. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote: Tulsaconnect enforced the limit on that message. Feel free to send me a large attachment if you want to test to be sure. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2011 10:49 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* little help understanding header info I have been asked a number of times by owners to adjust the email size limit up so pictures of grand-babies will not be blocked or filtered off. Our email is routed through our ISP/Datacenter before being handed off to a Brightmail filter, then forwarded to the appropriate exchange server. The 10.1.9.8 address is the internal address of said filter. I should have called them before I posted this, I know, but I would rather stick a fork in my head... Can anyone tell from this header if it is MY problem, either with an exchange setting I have overlooked or a problem with the filter? TulsaConnect has assured me they are enforcing size limits on email. 10 meg seems to be the limit at this point, although I have opened up everything on our end considerably higher than that. thanks for any help. I'm just asking for help understanding the contents of this bounce please, unless you can determine from the content of the header that this may be an exchange problem... thanks for any help: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - xx...@companymail.com (reason: 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to [67.214.102.28]: MAIL From:x...@yahoo.com SIZE=30433191 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns; mscan4.tulsaconnect.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; xx...@companymail.com Action: failed Status: 5.3.4 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 message size exceeds fixed maximum message size Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:21:19 -0500 Return-Path: ...@yahoo.com Received: from mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p46EJdAI004340 for xxx...@companymail.com; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Received: from omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ( omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.92]) by mscan4.tulsaconnect.com (mscan4.tulsaconnect.com [67.214.101.67]) envelope-from xxx...@yahoo.com with SMTP id n459Jd1776718739ZQ ret-id none; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:19:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 96059 invoked by uid 1000); 6 May 2011 14:19:38 - Received: (qmail 74424 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 14:19:32 - DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304691561; bh=pn4FE+SR65YTvA5pXDzmFkRoVIIF7uaA7DxpPitMJ10=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ri21sjwBmDXi5wwM5pxe0cW+CDbqYGUoouCXCp41ddc86JiGHLRP5/dwFZvTkrzestPC0F/y5ZT95TRn1OEvbqgQxmeiYaHMlbGR4gMiVI59ejEmkpAAUbmNUtURCLE5cHNexwRUvOogoMG8IJbHQV3+his6o1WUsTr3lHoXtyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: OT (a little) Blackberry sync problem
Don's be shy about deleting her BES account and starting a new one, if John's suggestions don't get it resolved. If it is BES strangeness it will not likely propagate to new account. EA doesn't take that long. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.orgwrote: Hi all, I know just enough about Blackberries to have installed BESx and connect the devices to it, so I am in search of some guidance. Sorry for the long message. The CEO of our organization is having problems with messages synchronizing on her Blackberry. What she sees is that some (not all) messages that show up in her Outlook inbox never show up on her Blackberry. For messages that do show up on her Blackberry, when they are showing as read on her BB, sometimes they continue to show as unread in Outlook. Also messages she has deleted on her BB don’t always move to Deleted Items in Outlook. Sometimes the opposite is also true – messages she has read and deleted in Outlook continue to show as new unread messages on the BB. While I was talking to her this morning I witnessed two messages from the same internal Exchange user show up in Outlook, but only the second one showed up on her BB. I only have 4 BB users here, and none of the other three have reported issues. Her Blackberry is a Storm2 9550 on Verizon BES Express 5.0.2.29 on Windows 2003 R2 SP2 Exchange 2003 SP2 on Windows 2003 SP2 What I’ve tried so far: Made sure Outlook cached mode was off – it was. Made sure she is leaving messages in her Outlook deleted items folder for at least a day before permanently deleting – she was. I had her do a “Reconcile” Now on her BB – no change. I had her do a reset by removing the battery – no change. On the BB went to Messages Options General Options and made sure “Hide filed email” is set to “Yes” Checked Messages Options Email Reconciliation settings: Delete On = Mailbox and Handheld Wireless Reconciliation = On On Conflicts = Mailbox Wins On the BESx server set Hard Deletes = true Any tips on what else I can try to do to help her out? Thanks, Ralph Confidentiality Notice: * This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, and delete and destroy all copies of the original message. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BES 5.0 and Exchange 2010
Has MS really closed the gap between EAS and BES enough to make that a wholesale, practical recommendation(as far as security is concerned)? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: I'll speak! Drop kick your BES server into the Sea of Japan and use EAS On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: It would be safe to presume (not ASSUME) J based on the way I worded my answer that there are known issues until 2010 sp1 ur3. Now, because of how I know what I know, I can’t tell you what those issues are. Silly, isn’t it? But there are other people on this forum that don’t have the same restrictions on them that I do. Perhaps one or more of them will speak up. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Beahm, Keith [mailto:kbe...@stinson.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:57 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BES 5.0 and Exchange 2010 I’m sorry to belabor the topic, but I was hoping to clarify that E2010 SP1 RU2 with (either BES 5.02 MR5 or BES 5.03 MR1) is a stable bug free combination? *Keith D. Beahm *|* *Network Engineer | Stinson Morrison Hecker LLP 1201 Walnut Street, Suite 2900 | Kansas City, MO 64106-2150 T: 816.691.3374 | F: 816.412.1022 | M: 816.808.8983 kbe...@stinson.com | www.stinson.com *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:19 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BES 5.0 and Exchange 2010 My recommendation (which comes from someone really knows but I’m not allowed to say their names or companies) is that you should install 5.02 MR5 or 5.03 with MR1; plus Exchange 2010 sp1 ur3 as soon as it is re-released. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Beahm, Keith [mailto:kbe...@stinson.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:16 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BES 5.0 and Exchange 2010 It seems that Blackberry has released several updates to BES this week (SP2 MR5, SP 3, SP 3 MR1). The last thread (*BES 5.0 SP2 MR4 and Exchange 2010 SP1 RU3 warning..*) on this topic as it related to Exchange 2010 indicated some issues with duplication of sent items. Has anyone had any successes or issues with these RIM releases? *Keith D. Beahm *|* *Network Engineer | Stinson Morrison Hecker LLP 1201 Walnut Street, Suite 2900 | Kansas City, MO 64106-2150 T: 816.691.3374 | F: 816.412.1022 | M: 816.808.8983 kbe...@stinson.com | www.stinson.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. This communication is from a law firm and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If it has been sent to you in error, please contact the sender for instructions concerning return or destruction, and do not use or disclose the contents to others. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: activesync on iphone still syncing after password change
HIJACK! Is there any correlation between this thread and the report I keep getting from my boss who claims to NOT have to enter his PW for Outlook to connect VIA RPC from home? W2K8 NON R2 server, E2K7, Outlook 2010. I keep telling him he's a no good dirty fork tongued liar, that there's no way outlook would connect from home without asking him for his password, but he insists that it does not. IIS? On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Works as designed. IIS still has a valid ticket with the old password. Bounce IIS or recycle the app pool and it’ll stop working. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2011 2:13 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* activesync on iphone still syncing after password change I have a user that forgot their password after a few weeks of using the password. Couldn't log into OWA manually, but their iphone was able to send and receive fine with the cached password. We reset the password on the domain. User logs in to OWA using the new password. Does not change the password on iphone. Now the user is sending from OWA and the iphone. Two passwords. One account. Success both ways. My knowledge tells me this is impossible. My eyes tell me otherwise. Could this just be the old activesync session? or is something horribly wrong? or another option more likely? as always, thanks for any assistance, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BESx?
We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. -- *From:* Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto: daniel.casti...@hp.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BESx?
My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. -- *From:* Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto: daniel.casti...@hp.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone?
I can only see 2 things that matter that we give up moving from full BES to BES express: 1. High availability 2. large number of pre-configured IT Policies(I was wrong, this one doesn't really matter to me). Please tell me what security capabilities I loose with BES Express? I don't see it. What I HAVE shucked is the $4,800 a year for support for ONE server that was nothing less than WORLD CLASS highway robbery. And I'll always have a fond place in my heart(or some unnamed place) for their smoking gun trick policy that said if I have more than 49 users and i don't pay the ridiculous price for enterprise support they would refuse to provide per incident support for me. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Do ensure that you are comparing like with like, and also consider that the UK mobile phone market is a lot more advanced than the USA one, so some of the reasoning is different. The Blackberry pricing structure changed considerably earlier this year, which makes anything you read that pre-dates 2010 pretty much out of date. Until that point, to use the full Blackberry feature set you needed BES (or BPS) and the BES option on the devices. That made the Blackberry devices very expensive to run. Here in the UK, you were looking at £35/month plus call charges etc. My Blackberry cost me more to run than my phone used for voice. However, I never once paid for BES. If there were more than 10 devices I told the service provider that I wanted BES free, and if they didn’t hand it over, I would talk to someone else. The profit on BES data is so high, that they hand it over. However now, that has all changed. You can now run a Blackberry against BES Express on the BIS plan. BES Express is free for as many devices as you want. Therefore you can run a Blackberry, with all of the features that the end user wants on the cheaper BIS plans. My Blackberry now costs me less than £15/month to run. Of course if you want the full BES functionality, that means you need a full BES (which you rarely get free unless you have a large number of handsets or are bringing in a lot of business) and you must have the full BES data option on the devices. That makes the cost still pretty high. This PDF from RIM outlines the differences between the options available to you. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/business/server/express/ComparisonChart_NA_021610_v3.pdf As for other choices, you will not get full management without paying for additional software. For the iPhone, you would have to look at third party. For Windows Mobile, you would be looking at SCCM or whatever it is called now, or third party. Everyone is still playing catch up with Blackberry for the Enterprise management. Good Technologies (http://www.good.com/) is about the closest you will get to Blackberry and has cross-platform support if you need that. However if you can standardise on the device and don’t allow non-company devices to be used, you will find it easier to support and more cost effective. Simon -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with the iPhone? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ http://certificatesforexchange.com/for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] *Sent:* 12 October 2010 16:15 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone? Thanks Joe, I’m picking up a bit of a theme when it comes to Blackberry in that some of it seems to be $$$ but they do seem to “just work” and are manageable should you decide to do something that should be fairly trivial but you need to update X number of mobiles. I’ll look into the free vs. pay software. As I said I’m not expecting anyone to RTFM on my behalf but sometimes experience of a product highlights things that aren’t obvious simply by RTFM – are there any features you’d say are “must have” that the free software doesn’t do? *From:* Joe Pochedley [mailto:joe.poched...@fivesgroup.com] *Sent:* 12 October 2010 16:09 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Most manageable and usable corporate smart phone? Blackberries have the most centrally manageable options… However to take advantage of much of that functionality you need to pay for the Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES). The free BES Express edition has many of the centralized management capabilities disabled, but it’s worth a look depending on your needs….. Depending on your size, BES may or may not be a large expense (obviously, “large expense” is relative to your company’s income
E2K3 help
I have a AD account that was inadvertently deleted. I recreated the account and it created a new mailbox. i now see a new mailbox for this user, just above the old, disabled mailbox. how can I move/connect the current account to the old mailbox? There were some initials on the old account that were left off the new account in AD, I'm guessing that is what caused it to create new account rather than reconnect... W2K3 servers, E2K3 SP2. Thanks for any suggestions. jeff --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: E2K3 help
you are right. that was easy. Thanks. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: It's quite simple. Have a look here for starters: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274343. You may want to nuke the new user object if it's not being used already and start over. Otherwise you'll have to delete the new mailbox and reconnect the account to the old one. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: I have a AD account that was inadvertently deleted. I recreated the account and it created a new mailbox. i now see a new mailbox for this user, just above the old, disabled mailbox. how can I move/connect the current account to the old mailbox? There were some initials on the old account that were left off the new account in AD, I'm guessing that is what caused it to create new account rather than reconnect... W2K3 servers, E2K3 SP2. Thanks for any suggestions. jeff --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: Do most of you prefer to build Exchange servers on RAID?
We build all ours raid1 system drive(not so big) and raid1 data drive(big) On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Holstrom, Don dholst...@nbm.org wrote: I am about to build a new server, but I have always used static drives. We have about a hundred users.
Re: Exchange 2007 Spam Filtering
It looks like you know what you are doing and have done more work to stop spam than a lot of guys. With ZEROS getting through have you verified, as MBS suggested at the start of this thread, that in fact these messages are going through your edge servers? This looks like what you get when SPAM finds its way directly through a secondary MX pointer that may not be filtered on the same level On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: My RBL of choice is zen.spamhaus.org But, it's running on a Maia Mailguard box. Cost was hardware and time. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:00, Brown, Larry larry.br...@dplinc.com wrote: Exchange 2007, SPAM SCL set to 7. To save money our company elected to rely on Exchange’s native SPAM filtering on the Exchange Edge servers. However, now we are getting complaints about the high level of SPAM getting through to users. One user is getting as many as 100 SPAM emails a day…and of course he is a VIP. He does not want to change his email address. But he does want us to “fix” this problem without spending money. We are considering blocking Asian and Eastern European domains, as we don’t do business with those parts of the world. We also use free Real Time Black Lists (remember, can’t spend money), Sender ID check, and the open proxy test. Sadly, when reviewing a lot of the SPAM our user has received we have found way too many SCL’s of 0 for emails that are obviously SPAM. Oh, and lowering the SCL to 6 is also not an option, and it doesn’t look like it would make much of a difference anyway. Can anyone think of anything we have missed? Is there a way to tweak the native anti-spam filtering to make it work better? Or is this as good as it gets?
Re: New BES 5.0 server but can't login to BAS
We have to logon using the BAS account. Even after service pak we are not able to use AD logon. Have a script to reset pw for that account. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.cawrote: We installed BES 5.0 MR3 yesterday and have migrated a few users. All seems fine except that we cannot login to Blackberry Administrative Service. We get the error “The username, password or domain is not correct. Please correct the entry” It’s an outstanding issue which RIM developers have not resolved as mentioned in the article below: http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexternalId=KB17949 We have attempted to follow Workaround 1 as described in the article however we find the ‘how-to’ a bit vague so we aren’t even sure that what we did is what we’re supposed to do. Just wondering if anyone else has encountered this if you were able to get around it. Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066
undeliverables clogging que's
We are in the middle of a multi-domain migration from E2k3 servers to E2K7. We had an outside consultant come in and set this all up. We had some time constraints and unrelated hardware issues that have complicated this process at times, and things have not always gone smoothly(imagine that). Everything seems to be working fine except that we have had reports of missing email and looked to find a que with hundreds of undelivered messages on the E2K7 Hub/CAS server. 80% or so of those messages are identified as undeliverable. When we manually delete the undeliverables the rest of the messages seem to go out just fine. I'll be happy to provide more details about our setup, but I'm thinking that may be something someone else has seen and may be able to point us in the right direction to get this resolved??? thanks for any help. Jeff
Re: undeliverables clogging que's
The From: seems to by typical spam, spoofed addresses, predictable subject lines. The To: seems to vary, some to current employees, some to former employees and some to unknowns... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote: The undeliverable’s are from who and to who? Is there a common thread with them? *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:18 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* undeliverables clogging que's We are in the middle of a multi-domain migration from E2k3 servers to E2K7. We had an outside consultant come in and set this all up. We had some time constraints and unrelated hardware issues that have complicated this process at times, and things have not always gone smoothly(imagine that). Everything seems to be working fine except that we have had reports of missing email and looked to find a que with hundreds of undelivered messages on the E2K7 Hub/CAS server. 80% or so of those messages are identified as undeliverable. When we manually delete the undeliverables the rest of the messages seem to go out just fine. I'll be happy to provide more details about our setup, but I'm thinking that may be something someone else has seen and may be able to point us in the right direction to get this resolved??? thanks for any help. Jeff
Re: undeliverables clogging que's
we are currently not doing any filtering with exchange, but we have a gateway filter appliance and are running a symantec filter on the mailbox server. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: Did your “consultant” not set up any spam filtering? It sounds like you’re either wide open, or infected internally. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:35 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: undeliverables clogging que's The From: seems to by typical spam, spoofed addresses, predictable subject lines. The To: seems to vary, some to current employees, some to former employees and some to unknowns... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: The undeliverable’s are from who and to who? Is there a common thread with them? *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:18 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* undeliverables clogging que's We are in the middle of a multi-domain migration from E2k3 servers to E2K7. We had an outside consultant come in and set this all up. We had some time constraints and unrelated hardware issues that have complicated this process at times, and things have not always gone smoothly(imagine that). Everything seems to be working fine except that we have had reports of missing email and looked to find a que with hundreds of undelivered messages on the E2K7 Hub/CAS server. 80% or so of those messages are identified as undeliverable. When we manually delete the undeliverables the rest of the messages seem to go out just fine. I'll be happy to provide more details about our setup, but I'm thinking that may be something someone else has seen and may be able to point us in the right direction to get this resolved??? thanks for any help. Jeff ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
Re: undeliverables clogging que's
These look like incoming spam, not NDR's , but I have deleted them all at the moment and don't have any to copy and display. I setup ZEN from spamhouse to do recipient filtering, maybe that will help. I really prefer to drop messages for invalid recipients, but with all the migrations we are doing the LDAP lookups weren't keeping up, and my filter refuses to look at secondary SMTP addresses... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote: The recipient verification needs to be on your externally exposed MTA for incoming email, so that would be the gateway filter I assume. The decent ones will do that through an LDAP connection (for example) to your exchange server. If not you are accepting all email for your domain…it hits the exchange server and invalid recipients are generating the outgoing NDR’s on the exchange server. I really really think that is the root of your problem here. That flood of stuck outbound NDR’s is hanging everything else up. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:53 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: undeliverables clogging que's we are currently not doing any filtering with exchange, but we have a gateway filter appliance and are running a symantec filter on the mailbox server. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: Did your “consultant” not set up any spam filtering? It sounds like you’re either wide open, or infected internally. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:35 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: undeliverables clogging que's The From: seems to by typical spam, spoofed addresses, predictable subject lines. The To: seems to vary, some to current employees, some to former employees and some to unknowns... On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: The undeliverable’s are from who and to who? Is there a common thread with them? *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:18 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* undeliverables clogging que's We are in the middle of a multi-domain migration from E2k3 servers to E2K7. We had an outside consultant come in and set this all up. We had some time constraints and unrelated hardware issues that have complicated this process at times, and things have not always gone smoothly(imagine that). Everything seems to be working fine except that we have had reports of missing email and looked to find a que with hundreds of undelivered messages on the E2K7 Hub/CAS server. 80% or so of those messages are identified as undeliverable. When we manually delete the undeliverables the rest of the messages seem to go out just fine. I'll be happy to provide more details about our setup, but I'm thinking that may be something someone else has seen and may be able to point us in the right direction to get this resolved??? thanks for any help. Jeff ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
Re: undeliverables clogging que's
*EXAMPLE #1* Identity: SOL-EXCH1\7101\13399 Subject: Undeliverable: [Spam] Make better food! Internet Message ID: 2f3623af-1a77-4f11-8232-907fba43ce07 From Address: Status: Ready Size (KB): 12 Message Source Name: DSN Source IP: 255.255.255.255 SCL: -1 Date Received: 6/9/2010 1:46:12 PM Expiration Time: 6/11/2010 1:46:12 PM Last Error: Queue ID: SOL-EXCH1\7101 Recipients: 1-77031-sojourncare.com?abai...@jasper.broadcastdeal.info *EXAMPLE #2* Identity: SOL-EXCH1\7101\13396 Subject: Undeliverable: [Spam] Automobile Insurance � Compare and Save Instantly. Internet Message ID: a27817aa-817d-42a9-b5e0-a8bb9847ece1 From Address: Status: Ready Size (KB): 11 Message Source Name: DSN Source IP: 255.255.255.255 SCL: -1 Date Received: 6/9/2010 1:44:08 PM Expiration Time: 6/11/2010 1:44:08 PM Last Error: 421 4.4.2 Connection dropped Queue ID: SOL-EXCH1\7101 Recipients: 2insure4l...@overcomingfa.com NO From: address on any of the undeliverables that are now in the que. Recipient example 2 email domain not close to any accepted mail domain here. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Last time I saw something like this, it was employees with Out Of Office messages sent out into the world rather than limiting them to internal recipients or Contacts. They got sent to spammers who then used them for NDR’s and spoofs. It might be a case where your network is secured but you just have to deal with the pains of the NDR’s until they eventually die down, which they will. *Jay Dale* I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:18 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* undeliverables clogging que's We are in the middle of a multi-domain migration from E2k3 servers to E2K7. We had an outside consultant come in and set this all up. We had some time constraints and unrelated hardware issues that have complicated this process at times, and things have not always gone smoothly(imagine that). Everything seems to be working fine except that we have had reports of missing email and looked to find a que with hundreds of undelivered messages on the E2K7 Hub/CAS server. 80% or so of those messages are identified as undeliverable. When we manually delete the undeliverables the rest of the messages seem to go out just fine. I'll be happy to provide more details about our setup, but I'm thinking that may be something someone else has seen and may be able to point us in the right direction to get this resolved??? thanks for any help. Jeff
Re: undeliverables clogging que's
I'll check on all that. Thanks VERY much for all your help. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote: Or….you said you have Symantec doing spam filtering on your exchange server also? It could be generating these NDR’s. Is it set up to deliver an NDR if it classifies an email as spam? If so that is very very bad. *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:07 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: undeliverables clogging que's Yep, that is an outgoing NDR from your Exchange server. I stand by my initial guess if those messages are typical of what is filling your queue, outgoing non-deliverables generated by your exchange server. Your gateway tagged it as [Spam] then delivered it to your Exchange server. The exchange server can’t find the original recipient in your system so it generated the below outgoing NDR that is going to a bogus or non-functioning domain/email system. The from is blank because Exchange does not want to create an endless loop of undeliverables, it knows it has enough problems already. J Turn up your gateway spam filtering so this doesn’t get to your exchange server or fix the recipient verification system on it. The latter would be better and if it doesn’t do that you should replace it. Also look at your gateway and find the original message with that subject, that will give you some clues. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:00 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: undeliverables clogging que's *EXAMPLE #1* Identity: SOL-EXCH1\7101\13399 Subject: Undeliverable: [Spam] Make better food! Internet Message ID: 2f3623af-1a77-4f11-8232-907fba43ce07 From Address: Status: Ready Size (KB): 12 Message Source Name: DSN Source IP: 255.255.255.255 SCL: -1 Date Received: 6/9/2010 1:46:12 PM Expiration Time: 6/11/2010 1:46:12 PM Last Error: Queue ID: SOL-EXCH1\7101 Recipients: 1-77031-sojourncare.com?abai...@jasper.broadcastdeal.info *EXAMPLE #2* Identity: SOL-EXCH1\7101\13396 Subject: Undeliverable: [Spam] Automobile Insurance � Compare and Save Instantly. Internet Message ID: a27817aa-817d-42a9-b5e0-a8bb9847ece1 From Address: Status: Ready Size (KB): 11 Message Source Name: DSN Source IP: 255.255.255.255 SCL: -1 Date Received: 6/9/2010 1:44:08 PM Expiration Time: 6/11/2010 1:44:08 PM Last Error: 421 4.4.2 Connection dropped Queue ID: SOL-EXCH1\7101 Recipients: 2insure4l...@overcomingfa.com NO From: address on any of the undeliverables that are now in the que. Recipient example 2 email domain not close to any accepted mail domain here. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Last time I saw something like this, it was employees with Out Of Office messages sent out into the world rather than limiting them to internal recipients or Contacts. They got sent to spammers who then used them for NDR’s and spoofs. It might be a case where your network is secured but you just have to deal with the pains of the NDR’s until they eventually die down, which they will. *Jay Dale* I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:18 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* undeliverables clogging que's We are in the middle of a multi-domain migration from E2k3 servers to E2K7. We had an outside consultant come in and set this all up. We had some time constraints and unrelated hardware issues that have complicated this process at times, and things have not always gone smoothly(imagine that). Everything seems to be working fine except that we have had reports of missing email and looked to find a que with hundreds of undelivered messages on the E2K7 Hub/CAS server. 80% or so of those messages are identified as undeliverable. When we manually delete the undeliverables the rest of the messages seem to go out just fine. I'll be happy to provide more details about our setup, but I'm thinking that may be something someone else has seen and may be able to point us in the right direction to get this resolved??? thanks for any help. Jeff
Re: OT - BES upgrade
My advice, if you don't have to, don't do both upgrades at the same time. We did. didn't have any big issues with upgrade/installations, but it's a lot to take in for a busy production environment. you won't know till you in the middle of it what issues the exchange upgrade will present, especially if you have developers trying to route stuff out through exchange. BES 5.0 is slick, but very different. Since you are not already that familiar with 4.x maybe it isn't such a deal for you. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.cawrote: Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066
Re: OT - BES upgrade
RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent update. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Not supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade Why not R2? Inquiring minds want to know…. Shook *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance
Re: OT - BES upgrade
As far as I know the only server product they are shy about is '08R2. It'll run on '03 just fine. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.cawrote: Interesting... Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008? *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:27 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print
Re: OT - BES upgrade
Michael, I may well be running in what is officially an unsupported environment, but they didn't refuse to help me, and we were able to resolve the issues I was having. I am not able to use AD to login the the BES management interface, as far as I know that is the only thing that doesn't work. I am running 5.0.1 MR2(bundle 117).That is running on a R2 HyperV VM and tied to an E2k7 server environment. Again, if I had it to do over again I'd probably install 4.x for now. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM, May, Jeff j...@bbandt.com wrote: Same thing stated at WES as well…sp2 gets you R2, I think you can run but not officially supported, much like the SQL clustering, can run but not officially supported yet….. And yes, the new can be 2003, we are currently in the same boat, exchange 2003 and BES 4.1.6, have a new environment with 5.0.1 on separate environment using BES Transporter to migrate, our biggest obstacle we are dealing with now is the named property limits within exchange 2003 being reached and causing migration issues for certain users. *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:46 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade Do you have a link? I called two weeks ago, and was told that R2 support wouldn’t be coming until 5.0 sp2. Thanks. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent update. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Not supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade Why not R2? Inquiring minds want to know…. Shook *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families -- *From*: Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 -- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action
Re: OT - BES upgrade
I too was given a 90 day temporary SRP. All I did was ask. It only came with 5 CALS and would not allow me to transfer my NON-temp CAL's to it. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote: They let you have two SRPs at one time without paying? I know the transporter tools were free. We do have T support, but was told no multiple SRPs without buying another server license or this migration option. Martin Blackstone wrote: That’s how I did it, but I didn’t have to pay. It was free. *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.comnt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase. I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of mind and convenience. It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days. With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness. The migration was easy, with no downtime for users. The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server. Bill Tammy George wrote: Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066
Re: Anyone using FortiGate as a spam filter?
We paid for the service but turned it off, it gave almost no control over what it does with spam, was difficult to know if missing mail was being rejected by the filter or something else... very little management options. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com wrote: Looking for some operational experiences. ~JasonG
Re: TLS on Exchange 2003
Not sure you have given enough information to get good help, but once you create that secondary smtp tls connector all mail to that named domain will try to go through that connector. If TLS is not correctly setup or enabled on the other end the mail will sit in that que. We had a cert for OWA and Active sync already setup and didn't have to do any further cert configuration for TLS to work. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Chris Drobny cdro...@lmsintellibound.comwrote: So I have googled this but not finding any real clear instructions. I don't understand if I create a 2nd smtp server for comms between a user in my world and someone on the outside how does exchange know to use the other smtp server?? I also am a little unclear on the x.509 cert, I don't see how to get this one on godaddy or verisign anyone have any experience in this?? Chris Drobny Network/Systems Administrator LMS Intellibound, Inc. cdro...@lmsintellibound.com 770.724.0562 office 404.797.9710 cell
BES question
Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff
Re: BES question
Thank you all. I needed that reassurance to get this kicked off. Very helpful. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:06 PM, May, Jeff j...@bbandt.com wrote: We are in a similar method, as long as you have CALs and a valid SRP you can do as many as you need on the same network. We have several networks with several BES, currently are running two production, one at 4.1 and another at 5.0, if you go the 5.0 route make sure your CAL is at least a 20 user CAL or more, if not you will get an error stating you are not running enterprise and they will hit you up for 3K to finish your install. Past that, should be no issues at all running this method. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:49 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BES question Sorry if this is off-topic. I am growing impatient trying to get an answer to this question directly from RIM. We are running a single domain, W2K3 servers and E2K3 and BES 4.1.x.x.x.x We are creating a new domain on the same physical network, W2k8, E2K7 and BES x.x.x(we haven't decided yet). We are NOT MIGRATING. We will move a few people from the existing domain to the new domain, test everything thoroughly. After we are satisfied that all works, we are creating 2 new domains and will be moving some people from the current domain to the new domains, and therefore to the new Exchange environment. We are pretty sure we have the exchange issues handled, but don't know what it will be like or if it is possible to stand up another BES server on the same network. We have a spare BES license, so licensing isn't a concern. we have 250 cals and are current with RIM support. anyone out there setup this way? Know if it can be done? Thanks for any help. jeff
Re: secure email to external domain
Thank you Michael, just what I was hoping for, validation that it is doable. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Is the hosted exchange 2007 domain using a third party cert for SMTP or a self-signed cert? You can use “another” IP address for your Exchange 2003 server, create a new SMTP virtual server, mark it for TLS, load your local cert and the exchange 2007 cert, and set the address space to the remote server. (That’s a quick overview, there are still white papers online at Microsoft about setting up Exchange 2003 for TLS.) *From:* 2jbr...@gmail.com [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:26 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* secure email to external domain Am I chasing my tail trying to find a way to get setup for secure email with an outside company on a hosted exchange platform? Their IT support is pretty weak. We are running E2k3 on W2003 all with latest SP's. FE/BE setup with 180+ mailboxes and BB's for all users with BES. Don't think the BB piece matters at all, I'm just wondering if there is any chance we can get the certificate exchange to work between my exchange domain and a hosted exchange 2007 domain? Any recomendations/thoughts? Thanks. Jeff
Re: BB Outage
7:15 central time and our BB data services are still down. 13+ hours. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: I am on BES, and am not getting any messages. Have reset my phone, still no go. Will I have to reboot BES server? On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Peter Sam srir...@hotmail.com wrote: BES (only BES) was recovered at 12:20 am EST; there are no backlogs on the RIM side but your local infrastructure (and wireless network provider) may still be processing these backlogs and maybe queued up. -- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:05:51 -0600 Subject: Re: BB Outage From: 2jbr...@gmail.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Seeing posts on Blackberry website indicating that some have service restored. Nothing working here as far as I can tell. We first noticed that the internet wasn't working for our BB's, started about noon central, then we lost email service between 5:30 and 6 pm. This is 6 hours long for us at this point. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: This is the kind of chiz that makes people want iPhones! * * -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/
Re: BB Outage
Don't believe the press release. It is BES issue, is NOT resolved for everyone. I DO have support contract with RIM, just off phone, tech basically offered to troubleshoot if you want to but indicated that problem is not on my end. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:54 AM, chosha2...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this affecting BIS, BES, or both? I'm receiving messages just fine via BIS on Verizon. -- *From: * Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:31:21 -0800 *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: BB Outage Seems we are having a similar issue. No BB service at all. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BB Outage BB outage in Tulsa, Ok. Verizon service. Have buddy on ATT says his BB network down as well. Also heard from friend in Kansas City, no BB data services Sprint and Verizon for his company. anyone else monitoring the group after hours down? Jeff
Re: BB Outage
That IS interesting, IF you are a BES customer. unless you typically go 12 to 15 hours with no email. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Kevin Lundy klu...@gmail.com wrote: Its been interesting reading that this has been 100 pct failure. I've not noticed any impact at all. On 12/23/09, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't believe the press release. It is BES issue, is NOT resolved for everyone. I DO have support contract with RIM, just off phone, tech basically offered to troubleshoot if you want to but indicated that problem is not on my end. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:54 AM, chosha2...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this affecting BIS, BES, or both? I'm receiving messages just fine via BIS on Verizon. -- *From: * Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:31:21 -0800 *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: BB Outage Seems we are having a similar issue. No BB service at all. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BB Outage BB outage in Tulsa, Ok. Verizon service. Have buddy on ATT says his BB network down as well. Also heard from friend in Kansas City, no BB data services Sprint and Verizon for his company. anyone else monitoring the group after hours down? Jeff -- Sent from my mobile device
Re: BB Outage
I support a healthcare company. We rely pretty heavily on BB email to communicate in the field. At least phone service still works. We went down between 5:30 and 6 last night and are still down. RIM support did not seem at all surprised that we are still down. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com wrote: I noticed SRP connection drop at around 22:30, then came back up at 00:22. Other than that no issue. Feeling lucky with all the other reports out there... ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BB Outage Yep, BES. And that's funny, no email :) On 12/23/09, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: That IS interesting, IF you are a BES customer. unless you typically go 12 to 15 hours with no email. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Kevin Lundy klu...@gmail.com wrote: Its been interesting reading that this has been 100 pct failure. I've not noticed any impact at all. On 12/23/09, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't believe the press release. It is BES issue, is NOT resolved for everyone. I DO have support contract with RIM, just off phone, tech basically offered to troubleshoot if you want to but indicated that problem is not on my end. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:54 AM, chosha2...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this affecting BIS, BES, or both? I'm receiving messages just fine via BIS on Verizon. -- *From: * Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:31:21 -0800 *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangel...@lyris.sunbelt- software.com *Subject: *RE: BB Outage Seems we are having a similar issue. No BB service at all. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BB Outage BB outage in Tulsa, Ok. Verizon service. Have buddy on ATT says his BB network down as well. Also heard from friend in Kansas City, no BB data services Sprint and Verizon for his company. anyone else monitoring the group after hours down? Jeff -- Sent from my mobile device -- Sent from my mobile device
Re: BB Outage
Just heard from a friend here in Tulsa, his ATT BES service came back up before he went to bed last night. We are on Verizon and still down. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: I support a healthcare company. We rely pretty heavily on BB email to communicate in the field. At least phone service still works. We went down between 5:30 and 6 last night and are still down. RIM support did not seem at all surprised that we are still down. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.comwrote: I noticed SRP connection drop at around 22:30, then came back up at 00:22. Other than that no issue. Feeling lucky with all the other reports out there... ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BB Outage Yep, BES. And that's funny, no email :) On 12/23/09, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: That IS interesting, IF you are a BES customer. unless you typically go 12 to 15 hours with no email. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Kevin Lundy klu...@gmail.com wrote: Its been interesting reading that this has been 100 pct failure. I've not noticed any impact at all. On 12/23/09, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: Don't believe the press release. It is BES issue, is NOT resolved for everyone. I DO have support contract with RIM, just off phone, tech basically offered to troubleshoot if you want to but indicated that problem is not on my end. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:54 AM, chosha2...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this affecting BIS, BES, or both? I'm receiving messages just fine via BIS on Verizon. -- *From: * Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:31:21 -0800 *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangel...@lyris.sunbelt- software.com *Subject: *RE: BB Outage Seems we are having a similar issue. No BB service at all. *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BB Outage BB outage in Tulsa, Ok. Verizon service. Have buddy on ATT says his BB network down as well. Also heard from friend in Kansas City, no BB data services Sprint and Verizon for his company. anyone else monitoring the group after hours down? Jeff -- Sent from my mobile device -- Sent from my mobile device
Re: Qwery: Is you BB via BES Working?
Tulsa, Verizon BES down. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.comwrote: Mine on ATT is back up. How about Verizon or Sprint?
Re: Qwery: Is you BB via BES Working?
yes, and a RIM tech had us run a telnet test for port 3101 that probably verified same thing... On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff Have you tried testing the connection using the server config tool? Steve On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only one on this list who's BES is still SRP down?(yes, I have rebooted server, no, RIM techs still seem to NOT be surprised that I am still down) On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Peter Sam srir...@hotmail.com wrote: We have a very large customer base and we have all the carriers - nationwide (US) and international. Our BES servers started sending intermittenly at around 11:55 PM EST and then stopped for a while; then it started back at around 2:15 am and by 3:45 am EST, all queues dissipated and all pending messages were delivered. Lookups started working at 3:15 am EST. BIS Service started working for us intermittenly at around 12 am on 12/23 but I didn't see all messages till 4:30 am (12/23) when most of the BIS messages started to flow in. At this time, all our BES related services (BES/BIS/Browser/MDS/Lookups/pin-to-pin/BlackberryIM/activation) -- all are working fine - for the past 8 hours. (All times in EST) -- Subject: RE: Qwery: Is you BB via BES Working? Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:19:05 -0500 From: mike.cel...@rfsworld.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com We’ve got a BES with BBs from Sprint, Nextel, T-Mobile, ATT, and Verizon and they are all working in CT. Mike *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:33 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Qwery: Is you BB via BES Working? Mine on ATT is back up. How about Verizon or Sprint? -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
Re: Qwery: Is you BB via BES Working?
was verifying that the port SRP uses was not being blocked on my end, I believe. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.comwrote: Think the telnet test only verifies basic network connectivity, not SRP activation. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -- *From*: Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent*: Wed Dec 23 10:59:50 2009 *Subject*: Re: Qwery: Is you BB via BES Working? yes, and a RIM tech had us run a telnet test for port 3101 that probably verified same thing... On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff Have you tried testing the connection using the server config tool? Steve On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: Am I really the only one on this list who's BES is still SRP down?(yes, I have rebooted server, no, RIM techs still seem to NOT be surprised that I am still down) On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Peter Sam srir...@hotmail.com wrote: We have a very large customer base and we have all the carriers - nationwide (US) and international. Our BES servers started sending intermittenly at around 11:55 PM EST and then stopped for a while; then it started back at around 2:15 am and by 3:45 am EST, all queues dissipated and all pending messages were delivered. Lookups started working at 3:15 am EST. BIS Service started working for us intermittenly at around 12 am on 12/23 but I didn't see all messages till 4:30 am (12/23) when most of the BIS messages started to flow in. At this time, all our BES related services (BES/BIS/Browser/MDS/Lookups/pin-to-pin/BlackberryIM/activation) -- all are working fine - for the past 8 hours. (All times in EST) -- Subject: RE: Qwery: Is you BB via BES Working? Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:19:05 -0500 From: mike.cel...@rfsworld.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com We’ve got a BES with BBs from Sprint, Nextel, T-Mobile, ATT, and Verizon and they are all working in CT. Mike *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:33 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Qwery: Is you BB via BES Working? Mine on ATT is back up. How about Verizon or Sprint? -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
BB Outage
BB outage in Tulsa, Ok. Verizon service. Have buddy on ATT says his BB network down as well. Also heard from friend in Kansas City, no BB data services Sprint and Verizon for his company. anyone else monitoring the group after hours down? Jeff
Re: BB Outage
Seeing posts on Blackberry website indicating that some have service restored. Nothing working here as far as I can tell. We first noticed that the internet wasn't working for our BB's, started about noon central, then we lost email service between 5:30 and 6 pm. This is 6 hours long for us at this point. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.comwrote: This is the kind of chiz that makes people want iPhones! * *
Re: BB Outage
I am on BES, and am not getting any messages. Have reset my phone, still no go. Will I have to reboot BES server? On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Peter Sam srir...@hotmail.com wrote: BES (only BES) was recovered at 12:20 am EST; there are no backlogs on the RIM side but your local infrastructure (and wireless network provider) may still be processing these backlogs and maybe queued up. -- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:05:51 -0600 Subject: Re: BB Outage From: 2jbr...@gmail.com To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Seeing posts on Blackberry website indicating that some have service restored. Nothing working here as far as I can tell. We first noticed that the internet wasn't working for our BB's, started about noon central, then we lost email service between 5:30 and 6 pm. This is 6 hours long for us at this point. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.comwrote: This is the kind of chiz that makes people want iPhones! * * -- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/
Re: defrag
My db's are on a separate data partition. The system partition is what I am trying to defrag. Would you be hesitant to do that as well? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: Move the database onto a dedicated partition. I wouldn’t run a defrag utility within 10U of my mailbox servers! Richard *From:* bounce-8665541-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto: bounce-8665541-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Brown *Sent:* 23 September 2009 20:18 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* defrag I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff
defrag
I googled and got more confused, so I figured I'd open myself up to ridicule and maybe start a fight in here. running E2k3 on W2K3 servers. On one of my mailbox servers the data partition that has the ex db files shows 96% fragmentation. (looking at file fragmentation using windows sys tools defrag util). I've seen posts that say the util will skip the .edb file so it's ok to go ahead and run, but I think I've actually seen defrag hang on an .edb in the past. What do you recomend/use IF ANYTHING to do file level defrag of files on a partition with exchange files on it. I am NOT asking about defraging the exchange files. Thanks for any insight. jeff
monitoring tips?
Anyone have something they are proud of that confirms backup/log file removal for multiple exchange servers? FE/BE setup with 3 mailbox servers, all running E2k3, W2K3 servers. All standard versions. (probably has to be free for me to be able to use it). Thanks for any help/suggestions.
Re: Anybody Out There?
here watching... On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Matt Moore mattmoore...@hotmail.comwrote:
Re: monitoring tips?
That probably IS what I'm looking for, but Nagios is linux only tool, is it not? I'm not currently running any linux boxes. :( On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Andrew Greene agre...@cityofanderson.comwrote: I use Nagios for this (in a roundabout way) – logs are on a separate drive from system and the information stores, so what I do is using NSClient, run checks to make sure that I’m not using more than 2% of the drive. If I’m using more than that on a drive, it means that the backup hasn’t run and the logs haven’t been removed. Do that for each of your servers. Not sure if this is will help or is what you’re looking for, but it’s what I use. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2009 11:45 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* monitoring tips? Anyone have something they are proud of that confirms backup/log file removal for multiple exchange servers? FE/BE setup with 3 mailbox servers, all running E2k3, W2K3 servers. All standard versions. (probably has to be free for me to be able to use it). Thanks for any help/suggestions.
Re: monitoring tips?
using NT Backup on the Ex boxes to disk, then BackupExec puts them to tape. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: What backup software are you using? On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: That probably IS what I'm looking for, but Nagios is linux only tool, is it not? I'm not currently running any linux boxes. :( On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Andrew Greene agre...@cityofanderson.com wrote: I use Nagios for this (in a roundabout way) – logs are on a separate drive from system and the information stores, so what I do is using NSClient, run checks to make sure that I’m not using more than 2% of the drive. If I’m using more than that on a drive, it means that the backup hasn’t run and the logs haven’t been removed. Do that for each of your servers. Not sure if this is will help or is what you’re looking for, but it’s what I use. Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2009 11:45 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* monitoring tips? Anyone have something they are proud of that confirms backup/log file removal for multiple exchange servers? FE/BE setup with 3 mailbox servers, all running E2k3, W2K3 servers. All standard versions. (probably has to be free for me to be able to use it). Thanks for any help/suggestions. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
Re: Blackberry GAL
We use a 3rd party product, Add2Exchange to sync PF contact list to individual mailboxes. 200 BB's, Exchange 2003, BES 4.6. We've used the product for 2 going on 3 years now and are very happy with it. diditbettersoftware.com On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) tom.alver...@ngc.com wrote: How do you publish the GAL to a Public FoldeÿÿÂ Do you mean just a one time manual export of the GAL and then import that into a Public Folder or is there some way to have an automatically updated copy of the GAL in a public contacts folder (without using a 3rd party app). How do you use DM to sync a PF to your device? Also, syncing a PF contact folder to your Blackberry requires 5.0 firmware (which does not exist for any of our devices) and 5.0 BES server, correct?? Tom *From:* Wulff Jr, Ronald J. [mailto:rwu...@reedsmith.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:42 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Blackberry GAL Publish your GAL to a public Folder, and then use desktop manager to synch the public folder to the device. In 5.0 you can do wireless synch of the PF as well *Ronald Wulff Jr* 412.288.3601 rwu...@reedsmith.com Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 *From:* Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:41 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Blackberry GAL Blackberry should really provide the admins the right to publish the Exchange GAL. So when i'm composing a message and i start typing in a persons name, the exchange GAL and my local contacts get auto-populated. I really don't see the resource/bandwidth/technical overhead with getting that done ( or I could just be resource/bandwidth/technically short-sighted) Maybe it's just my overall inexperience with blackberry and their respective shortcuts, but I'm really looking to type less, especially when it comes to the mundane part of adding the e-mail address. If I, or anyone, constantly e-mails a group of people --- is there a faster way of adding a frequently used recipient ? On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Don Andrews don.andr...@safeway.com wrote: I believe you can choose to add the results of a lookup to your contacts (we discourage this as it makes a static copy of a dynamic contact) Donÿÿ™t know about your second question unless youÿÿ™d like to prefix the field that is the sort key with a number or something. -- *From:* Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:46 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: Blackberry GAL All -- We recently made the move from Goodlink to BES. I have a few annoyances, but one of the main and most annoying issues i'm hoping there is an answer for is: #61623 Is there a way to default to the Exchange GAL when typing in a name during e-mail composition ? Right now, the list populates with your personal contacts within outlook and I'll have to lookup in order to find a name in the Exchange GAL.. #61623 Is there a way to add or auto-populate a blackberry device with the most frequently e-mailed ? In other words, lets say you have 20 contacts with the last name Singh but frequently only e-mail 1 of them, is there a way to trick the blackberry to populate that Singh first ? Thanks, * * * This E-mail, along with any attachments, is considered confidential and may well be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your cooperation. * * * To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we inform you that, unless otherwise indicated in writing, any U.S. Federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (1) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state and local provisions or (2) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. Disclaimer Version RS.US.1.01.03 pdc1
Re: Blackberry BES vs. BPS
Running BES 4.6 or whatever, phone system forwards vm's to my inbox, Curve plays them just fine. Not sure why you would need 5.0. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Tom R. Holmlund tom.holml...@gmail.comwrote: I'm running a small BES 4.0 server with 10 clients and Exchange 2007. Would like to be able to listen to WAV files (from internal voicemail) and am told that BES 5.0 will do it and the upgrade cost is $999. Sales person told me I could also switch to BPS (and use the same client l licenses) without any cost. Questions for you Exchange/Blackberry experts: 1. How do you feel BPS compares to BES? Is it comparable to BES 5 features? Sales person did not have any kind of document to compare features. 2. Anyone with experience listening to WAV files on handheld? I'm not concerned about growing over the 30 user limit on BPS. Any comments are much appreciated. Tom
Re: How do you check licenses on BES 5.0
Thanks for posting. I really want to do that, but i'm SKEERED! On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote: Ok, found it under Servers and components | component view. *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:54 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* How do you check licenses on BES 5.0 Ok, I did ”it”, I upgraded to BES 5.0, I did an in place upgrade took about 30 min. now I’m getting used to the new web interface, not to happy with it, anyhow progress I guess. My question is where do I see my license info? *___* *Stefan Jafs* This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
Re: Global Update Personal Calendars?
Add to Exchange is a third party tool we use here to sync contacts to individual mailboxes. The Enterprise version will let you use Active Directory groups to decide which calendars get synchronized to which private mailboxes. (will work for contacts, calendars and tasks I believe) On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Shields, Anthony ashie...@epsteinatlanta.org wrote: We're a school. For the last 9 years, we have had a shared school calendar in public folders showing all the events and at the beginning of every school year, we have a csv file of all school events for employees to import into their Outlook calendar - if they want. Now I'm being asked if there's a way to make meeting changes on everyone's calendar that has that meeting on their calendar. Short of a person designated to invite all employees to every meeting - I don't know of a way to do what they would like. Thinking outside of the box - is this something that SharePoint would be good for or is there an entirely different/better way to do what they would like? Not all employees import the calendar. Not all of the events are applicable to all employees. Those that do import, realize they have a lot to cleanup/delete afterwards. The Epstein School is a proud beneficiary of the Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: RIM SUPPORT
We had a round of lay-off's in November, and then some more in January. Things are beginning to look up, maybe, but we are a LONG way from being willing to shell out 6 large for that support. We have a lead on a contractor that is supposedly authorized by RIM who offers support contracts. Will let you know where that leads. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Mousa Hamad mha...@zetron.com wrote: You'll have to let us know how that works out. We have 15 devices and just got the lowest support package... We are on BPS, but interestingly they did price us based on the number of devices we have as well... I found that odd, but just assumed that was how they did it... I agree though, how many devices I have should be none of their business... Though RIM has already tried their best to alienate us with Verizon's help by forcing Blackberry Storms down our throat, needless to say I'll be completing the Curve for Storm switch out TODAY and my users are already a LOT happier.. Mousa Hamad -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT Anyone tried www.astrasync.com ?? I'm rolling it out to five users next week as a test. From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Jeff Brown2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: Again, all they REALLY support for me is ONE BES server. Yah, same here. And really, I'm agreeing with you -- if RIM keeps pissing off their customers, they'll eventually find they don't have customers to piss off. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: RIM SUPPORT
What he's telling me is that this is the LOWEST POSSIBLE level of support for me to get, 5x8 is not an option anymore, for anyone. Maybe you're right, maybe it's just the salesperson. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Woodford ericwoodf...@gmail.comwrote: Maybe it's just your sales rep.. On the other hand, we dropped from T4 Support - T3 and the price drop on the contract was substantial. (We support 1,500 devices) On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? I am a relatively small shop, with just over 200 phones and one BES server. I can't imagine how they justify charging my support based on the number of phones, because that affects them almost NOT AT ALL, as what they really do is support my ONE server. I have been running this for about 4 years and have asked for help maybe 3 times. Last year my 12 month support contract was $4,600, this year they want more like $6,200, even though my number of phones has dropped from 265 to 205. The drop in number of phones is indicative of our company economy. It is a BAD time, really bad for them to limit my options to a new level of support with lots of great value that I cannot afford. Here's the cherry: NO ONE with more than 50 handsets will be supported on a per incident basis according to my sales rep. They really want to know how I am going to respond when I feel like someone has put a gun against my head ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: RIM SUPPORT
This is from the email, my users went from 265 to 205 and the cost went up OVER $1,500 for 12 months. I took a look at what you paid for support last year and it was around $5000, I realize that this is an increase in price but I think its justified based on the value identified above. I would also like to make sure that you understand that our incident based support (used by customers who do not have a contract) is only reserved for customers with less then 50 handheld devices. What this means to you is that if you do decide not to renew you will be left completely unsupported on your BlackBerry solution by Research in Motion On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonwelding.com wrote: They did change their support program but the price didn't change. I just renewed and it stayed exactly the same as it was last year respective to the number of phone on my BES. I have 50 licenses but am only using 45 and they only charged me for 45. They never have been picky about the number of users increasing between license renewals. -- *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:35 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RIM SUPPORT Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? I am a relatively small shop, with just over 200 phones and one BES server. I can't imagine how they justify charging my support based on the number of phones, because that affects them almost NOT AT ALL, as what they really do is support my ONE server. I have been running this for about 4 years and have asked for help maybe 3 times. Last year my 12 month support contract was $4,600, this year they want more like $6,200, even though my number of phones has dropped from 265 to 205. The drop in number of phones is indicative of our company economy. It is a BAD time, really bad for them to limit my options to a new level of support with lots of great value that I cannot afford. Here's the cherry: NO ONE with more than 50 handsets will be supported on a per incident basis according to my sales rep. They really want to know how I am going to respond when I feel like someone has put a gun against my head ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: RIM SUPPORT
Maybe below 50 is a good place to be. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:54 PM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com wrote: 40 devices Last year: $1625.00 This year: $1769.00 -- *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:45 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: RIM SUPPORT This is from the email, my users went from 265 to 205 and the cost went up OVER $1,500 for 12 months. I took a look at what you paid for support last year and it was around $5000, I realize that this is an increase in price but I think its justified based on the value identified above. I would also like to make sure that you understand that our incident based support (used by customers who do not have a contract) is only reserved for customers with less then 50 handheld devices. What this means to you is that if you do decide not to renew you will be left completely unsupported on your BlackBerry solution by Research in Motion On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonwelding.com wrote: They did change their support program but the price didn't change. I just renewed and it stayed exactly the same as it was last year respective to the number of phone on my BES. I have 50 licenses but am only using 45 and they only charged me for 45. They never have been picky about the number of users increasing between license renewals. -- *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:35 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RIM SUPPORT Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? I am a relatively small shop, with just over 200 phones and one BES server. I can't imagine how they justify charging my support based on the number of phones, because that affects them almost NOT AT ALL, as what they really do is support my ONE server. I have been running this for about 4 years and have asked for help maybe 3 times. Last year my 12 month support contract was $4,600, this year they want more like $6,200, even though my number of phones has dropped from 265 to 205. The drop in number of phones is indicative of our company economy. It is a BAD time, really bad for them to limit my options to a new level of support with lots of great value that I cannot afford. Here's the cherry: NO ONE with more than 50 handsets will be supported on a per incident basis according to my sales rep. They really want to know how I am going to respond when I feel like someone has put a gun against my head ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
BES upgrade to 5.0
I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: BES upgrade to 5.0
If i was setup virtual I'd be tempted to wag my tail just a tiny little bit. :) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: *“I may do it this weekend.”* And you felt the need to advertise this? Shook *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 4:42 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 I started to read the prerequisites and gave up. However I’m virtual so I can take a snapshot and do the in place upgrade, without worries. I may do it this weekend. *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: BES upgrade to 5.0
sorry, I ONCE was accused of being a little slow, but I'm pretty sure they were wrong. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: No, no, no… You may to” IT” this weekend. It was a stupid and immature naughty joke. Shook *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 5:03 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: BES upgrade to 5.0 If i was setup virtual I'd be tempted to wag my tail just a tiny little bit. :) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: *“I may do it this weekend.”* And you felt the need to advertise this? Shook *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 4:42 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BES upgrade to 5.0 I started to read the prerequisites and gave up. However I’m virtual so I can take a snapshot and do the in place upgrade, without worries. I may do it this weekend. *___* *Stefan Jafs* *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 4:34 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BES upgrade to 5.0 I saw a post a week or so back but didn't see a lot of response. Am thinking about upgrading my BES server to the new 5.0 version for Exchange. Anyone do this and run into trouble so far? Thanks for any help. Jeff This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Blackberry :-( Issue
Think we had this problem and it was caused by JAVA version information being wrong in config file on BES. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Clayton Doige clayton.do...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, first if this is a reallynewbie stupid question I will apologies up front, as thus far in my career I have been fortunate enough not to have had the displeasure of supporting these devices too much, which leaves me not knowing a helck of a lot lol. BES, latest version, 2 mailbox servers, E2K3 SP2 If a user is on exchange server A changes made onthe blackberry calendar sync to Outlook, however if you move them to server B the Blackberry changes no longer sync. I read that this can occur is mapi32.dll and cdo.dll on the exchange server does not match the version on the BES. I checked this all through and the same versions are present on all three machines. I checked the version of all of dll's in program files\exchsrvr (sad huh) on both mailbox servers and found only one discrepancy, exmime.dll (the non working server has an older version, but it is still a 6.5.76 version. Has anyone seen mismatches of exmime.dll cause the calendar issues decribed, and if so is it a simple matter of copying the dll from server a to server b and bouncing the server or is there a specific hot fix for this, google has not come upwith too much on this so far. TIA Clayton ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
symantec smtp mail filter help
I'm hoping someone out there has done this already. I am currently using symantec's mail security for smtp. I have been using the ldap sync to let it dump mail to invalid recipients up front. Using version 5.0.1 on W2k3 server. The autofill settings for ldap synchronization DO NOT find secondary smtp addresses. I have an account created for marketing purposes that has SEVERAL secondary addresses setup and have to turn ldap lookup off in order for mail to those addresses to pass through. Symantec tech support tells me they don't support the cusomization of the ldap querry that would enable to filter to inlcude secondary smtp adresses, but someone familiar with ldap could modify to querry to do that. anyone able to help with that? here is what the current querry looks like: ((|(objectCategory=group)(objectCategory=person))((|(mail=*)(proxyAddresses=*))(sAMAccountName=*))) ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Blackberry contacts for remote user
look at https/RPC to allow recure, remote access to exchange. I am not up to speed on E2007, but can't emagine that they would take that feature out. On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Steve Hart sh...@wrightbg.com wrote: This is probably an easy question, but I haven't played much with Office 2007 and I'm still learning Exchange 2007. We're hosting a single email account for a loosely affiliated company on our E2007 server. The lone user is outside of our facilities and he's using OWA to get his mail. He has a Blackberry connecting using BIS. He has Office 2007 on his PC and would like to import his Blackberry contacts into Outlook. Apparently, he's set up his Outlook profile to connect to our server, but that's being blocked by the firewall and Outlook won't open. What's the easiest way to make this happen? Set up a local Outlook data file on his PC? Poke a hole in the firewall to allow him to connect? Somehow import through OWA or BIS? Thanks in advance, Steve ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Phone system for remote/ satellite office
sometimes you have to ask the right questions. Our system supports IP trunking, not VOIP. But I think most Voip systems can be tied back into your legacy phone sys if it supports trunking. shoretell is the bomb. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:57 PM, David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com wrote: our current system does not support voip. I am hunting for options now. Regards, David -- *From:* James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:47:17 PM *Subject:* Re: Phone system for remote/ satellite office What about getting a voip card in your current pbx and just getting them viop phones? You could have separate DID or hunt groups or what not. A long time ago I saw that Panasonic had small digital phone systems that were inexpensive and nice. Maybe you could take a look at what they have now. James - Original Message - *From:* David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:09 PM *Subject:* Phone system for remote/ satellite office Hello All, I was wondering if you had any suggestion or can share your experiences on phone system ideas for an office of three execs and one receptionist. I am looking for a low cost solution. I have considered fonality and avaya which can get expensive roughly 10 -15k with installation. Thanks in advance. David ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: OWA problem
Don't think it's that. they actually get the window, just not able to type in it. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: Pop-up blocker? -Bonnie *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:00 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* OWA problem Exch 03 environment, 3 mailbox servers with FE. Users on remote mailbox server get greyed out window and cannot create new mail or reply when using OWA. No problem reading mail in OWA. No issues at all using Outlook. Any ideas? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
OWA problem
Exch 03 environment, 3 mailbox servers with FE. Users on remote mailbox server get greyed out window and cannot create new mail or reply when using OWA. No problem reading mail in OWA. No issues at all using Outlook. Any ideas? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
bounced email
I have a secondary domain running in an exchange environment. We are having trouble with email from secondary domain getting bounced. We have spf records all setup for primary domain, not sure if that is needed for the secondary, because I don't understand how that is all handled. Can someone give me some pointers or links to documents that can help me understand how to look specifically at secondary email domain setup in an exchange environment?? Thanks for any help. This is the sort of message we are seeing: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] They ultimately fail almost always. There were between 400 nad 500 messages sent, approximately 10 that wont' go through. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
OWA issues
Recently replaced an older exchange server with a new box. Migrated mailboxes. seemed to go smoothly, Less than 50 users on this mailbox server. FE/BE setup, W2003 servers with Exchange '03 on all Exchange servers. We missed something and I'm having trouble identifying exaclty what the problem is. Webmail won't work, getting a 404 error after putting in credentials in logon screen. Works for users on all other mailbox servers, just not the new one. Have walked through article 327843 and verified all the usual permissions for OWA in ESM and IIS. No change. Can anyone point me in the right direction. From IE in session on the server, localhost/exchange you get an authentication pop-up, which doesn't happen on other servers(other servers take you straight to mailbox of authenticated user) after putting in domain/username and password it will give normal looking OWA logon screen, then 404 error after putting in credentials. Any help would be appreciated. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: OWA issues
Had reset permissions for authenticated users, then restarted IIS. No change. Those permissions were either wrong or missing, so we really thought that was the problem. Rebooted exchange mailbox and problem is resolved. Thanks anyhow. On 9/2/08, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently replaced an older exchange server with a new box. Migrated mailboxes. seemed to go smoothly, Less than 50 users on this mailbox server. FE/BE setup, W2003 servers with Exchange '03 on all Exchange servers. We missed something and I'm having trouble identifying exaclty what the problem is. Webmail won't work, getting a 404 error after putting in credentials in logon screen. Works for users on all other mailbox servers, just not the new one. Have walked through article 327843 and verified all the usual permissions for OWA in ESM and IIS. No change. Can anyone point me in the right direction. From IE in session on the server, localhost/exchange you get an authentication pop-up, which doesn't happen on other servers(other servers take you straight to mailbox of authenticated user) after putting in domain/username and password it will give normal looking OWA logon screen, then 404 error after putting in credentials. Any help would be appreciated. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Email Certificates
I think I understood most of what you were saying. I was referring to tumbleweeds when I said off-site. (that really is off-site, right?) On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't mean to imply off-site – both the SMIME proxy and Secure Messenger solutions are internally hosted – in fact on the same set of servers. -- Thanks for the input. the off-site solution seems to be very popular. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep – SMIME is a client to client protocol – each client will need their own certificate, then will need to do a certificate exchange etc. etc. – and bottom line is the sending client is required to ensure that they send encrypted after all that. Some of us have gateways that act as SMIME proxies for our internal users freeing them from this burden, but there is an administrative overhead to getting it all working the first time – and the external client still has to do their end – the major advantage is that the server can ensure that outgoing messages are always encrypted and warn the recipient of unencrypted inbound messages. Given the overhead of SMIME encrypted email, some have opted for a browser based secure FTP-like solution – we use Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger for this. -- *From:* Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:54 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Email Certificates Uh-oh that throws a wrench in the bucket, if we cant actually communicate with the admin of the email server on their end (cox) we may be in trouble. If they are using the standard cox server at mx.west.cox.net (or mx.east.cox.net) then transport encryption may not be possible ( a quick telnet into that address does not accept a TLS or STARTTLS command, its pretty plain jane). So options would be setting up SMIME User certificates which is a little more work and would require some user training. Or if the other company moved to a different (infer better) email hosting provider then they could except TLS encrypted email. No easy options L -troy *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:04 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Email Certificates Any way to set that up from my E2K3 domain to their Outlook client? Their email is hosted by an ISP and is pop3. (@cox.net email address)?? On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, if you mean simply making sure that the general internet cant see the messages and you aren't worried about encryption once they reach the other companies servers, it should be simple; assuming the other company's MTA will accept TLS encryption, you can create a new routing group connector to that domain and require TLS and that should encrypt all transport traffic between your locations (including BB traffic because all BB sending occurs through your exchange server). I haven't configured 2003 in a while, but I believe that should be all that is required. Michael, Kevin, any input? -troy *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:57 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Email Certificates Thank you very much. I will look at that information as time allows. We are running E2K3 and BES 4.1. Main concern at the moment is that we find a way to send email from BB's to vendors OUTSIDE our network in a secure way that is readable by them. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeff, You really need to understand PKI with regards to how it works before you can really implement encryption. I assume you are running some flavor of exchange and are looking to encrypt messages, have you looked at this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123466(EXCHG.65).aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124155(EXCHG.65).aspx It references 2003, but SMIME/PKI is not largely different between applications or exchange versions. From the sounds of your email I think you are confusing different types of encryption, eg: yes you can use transport encryption with SSL certificates that are trusted by all platforms/browsers without interchanging keys (because in essence the public key has already been accepted), but if you are looking for message encryption, you will need USER certificates, which will still need to be accepted by clients. So when you tell exchange to encrypt all outgoing email, you are encrypting the transport from Exchange to the other server, but you are NOT encrypting the message itself. (Yes you can tell Exchange to encrypt all outgoing, and yes you can tell Exchange to encrypt transport to only a specific domain.) So really it comes down to what exactly you
Email Certificates
I need help correcting filling in/correcting holes in my understanding of email certificates and how they work. I purchase a well known cert for my domain so that I can send encrypted email over the public domain. Because I laid out the money for this well known cert, I don't have to exchange certificates with folks outside my domain in order for them to read my encrypted email, right? In Outlook, there is a checkbox to encrypt outgoing email. Is there a way on the org. level to say all mail sent to anyone @thisorg.com outside my domain should always be encrypted? Because I paid the big bucks, can we just set it on the domain level to encrypt ALL outgoing email? Will this well known cert allow my BB users to send encrypted email to folks not in my org? TIA, I really appreciate those of you who are able/willing to educate the poorly informed. Jeff ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Email Certificates
Thank you very much. I will look at that information as time allows. We are running E2K3 and BES 4.1. Main concern at the moment is that we find a way to send email from BB's to vendors OUTSIDE our network in a secure way that is readable by them. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeff, You really need to understand PKI with regards to how it works before you can really implement encryption. I assume you are running some flavor of exchange and are looking to encrypt messages, have you looked at this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123466(EXCHG.65).aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124155(EXCHG.65).aspx It references 2003, but SMIME/PKI is not largely different between applications or exchange versions. From the sounds of your email I think you are confusing different types of encryption, eg: yes you can use transport encryption with SSL certificates that are trusted by all platforms/browsers without interchanging keys (because in essence the public key has already been accepted), but if you are looking for message encryption, you will need USER certificates, which will still need to be accepted by clients. So when you tell exchange to encrypt all outgoing email, you are encrypting the transport from Exchange to the other server, but you are NOT encrypting the message itself. (Yes you can tell Exchange to encrypt all outgoing, and yes you can tell Exchange to encrypt transport to only a specific domain.) So really it comes down to what exactly you are hoping to do, do you want full message encryption or simply to prevent sniffing of traffic on the open internet? As for blackberry, you can do both here as well. If you are running this you can sign/encrypt individual messages using SMIME. http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexternalId=KB10199sliceId=SAL_PublicdialogID=55761554stateId=0%200%2055759922 If you are running BES then your communication is encrypted until it comes back to your home exchange server, and then it will travel as a normal message (ie if you are encrypting outbound traffic it will travel over that tunnel, otherwise it becomes a plain text outbound.) Hope that helps, it's a lot of information, but security/PKI/SMIME deployments can be difficult if you don't break down exactly what you (and the business) want. -Troy *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:40 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Email Certificates I need help correcting filling in/correcting holes in my understanding of email certificates and how they work. I purchase a well known cert for my domain so that I can send encrypted email over the public domain. Because I laid out the money for this well known cert, I don't have to exchange certificates with folks outside my domain in order for them to read my encrypted email, right? In Outlook, there is a checkbox to encrypt outgoing email. Is there a way on the org. level to say all mail sent to anyone @thisorg.com outside my domain should always be encrypted? Because I paid the big bucks, can we just set it on the domain level to encrypt ALL outgoing email? Will this well known cert allow my BB users to send encrypted email to folks not in my org? TIA, I really appreciate those of you who are able/willing to educate the poorly informed. Jeff ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Email Certificates
Any way to set that up from my E2K3 domain to their Outlook client? Their email is hosted by an ISP and is pop3. (@cox.net email address)?? On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, if you mean simply making sure that the general internet cant see the messages and you aren't worried about encryption once they reach the other companies servers, it should be simple; assuming the other company's MTA will accept TLS encryption, you can create a new routing group connector to that domain and require TLS and that should encrypt all transport traffic between your locations (including BB traffic because all BB sending occurs through your exchange server). I haven't configured 2003 in a while, but I believe that should be all that is required. Michael, Kevin, any input? -troy *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:57 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Email Certificates Thank you very much. I will look at that information as time allows. We are running E2K3 and BES 4.1. Main concern at the moment is that we find a way to send email from BB's to vendors OUTSIDE our network in a secure way that is readable by them. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeff, You really need to understand PKI with regards to how it works before you can really implement encryption. I assume you are running some flavor of exchange and are looking to encrypt messages, have you looked at this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123466(EXCHG.65).aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124155(EXCHG.65).aspx It references 2003, but SMIME/PKI is not largely different between applications or exchange versions. From the sounds of your email I think you are confusing different types of encryption, eg: yes you can use transport encryption with SSL certificates that are trusted by all platforms/browsers without interchanging keys (because in essence the public key has already been accepted), but if you are looking for message encryption, you will need USER certificates, which will still need to be accepted by clients. So when you tell exchange to encrypt all outgoing email, you are encrypting the transport from Exchange to the other server, but you are NOT encrypting the message itself. (Yes you can tell Exchange to encrypt all outgoing, and yes you can tell Exchange to encrypt transport to only a specific domain.) So really it comes down to what exactly you are hoping to do, do you want full message encryption or simply to prevent sniffing of traffic on the open internet? As for blackberry, you can do both here as well. If you are running this you can sign/encrypt individual messages using SMIME. http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexternalId=KB10199sliceId=SAL_PublicdialogID=55761554stateId=0%200%2055759922 If you are running BES then your communication is encrypted until it comes back to your home exchange server, and then it will travel as a normal message (ie if you are encrypting outbound traffic it will travel over that tunnel, otherwise it becomes a plain text outbound.) Hope that helps, it's a lot of information, but security/PKI/SMIME deployments can be difficult if you don't break down exactly what you (and the business) want. -Troy *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:40 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Email Certificates I need help correcting filling in/correcting holes in my understanding of email certificates and how they work. I purchase a well known cert for my domain so that I can send encrypted email over the public domain. Because I laid out the money for this well known cert, I don't have to exchange certificates with folks outside my domain in order for them to read my encrypted email, right? In Outlook, there is a checkbox to encrypt outgoing email. Is there a way on the org. level to say all mail sent to anyone @thisorg.com outside my domain should always be encrypted? Because I paid the big bucks, can we just set it on the domain level to encrypt ALL outgoing email? Will this well known cert allow my BB users to send encrypted email to folks not in my org? TIA, I really appreciate those of you who are able/willing to educate the poorly informed. Jeff ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Email Certificates
Thanks for the input. the off-site solution seems to be very popular. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Don Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep – SMIME is a client to client protocol – each client will need their own certificate, then will need to do a certificate exchange etc. etc. – and bottom line is the sending client is required to ensure that they send encrypted after all that. Some of us have gateways that act as SMIME proxies for our internal users freeing them from this burden, but there is an administrative overhead to getting it all working the first time – and the external client still has to do their end – the major advantage is that the server can ensure that outgoing messages are always encrypted and warn the recipient of unencrypted inbound messages. Given the overhead of SMIME encrypted email, some have opted for a browser based secure FTP-like solution – we use Tumbleweed's Secure Messenger for this. -- *From:* Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:54 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Email Certificates Uh-oh that throws a wrench in the bucket, if we cant actually communicate with the admin of the email server on their end (cox) we may be in trouble. If they are using the standard cox server at mx.west.cox.net (or mx.east.cox.net) then transport encryption may not be possible ( a quick telnet into that address does not accept a TLS or STARTTLS command, its pretty plain jane). So options would be setting up SMIME User certificates which is a little more work and would require some user training. Or if the other company moved to a different (infer better) email hosting provider then they could except TLS encrypted email. No easy options L -troy *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:04 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Email Certificates Any way to set that up from my E2K3 domain to their Outlook client? Their email is hosted by an ISP and is pop3. (@cox.net email address)?? On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, if you mean simply making sure that the general internet cant see the messages and you aren't worried about encryption once they reach the other companies servers, it should be simple; assuming the other company's MTA will accept TLS encryption, you can create a new routing group connector to that domain and require TLS and that should encrypt all transport traffic between your locations (including BB traffic because all BB sending occurs through your exchange server). I haven't configured 2003 in a while, but I believe that should be all that is required. Michael, Kevin, any input? -troy *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:57 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Email Certificates Thank you very much. I will look at that information as time allows. We are running E2K3 and BES 4.1. Main concern at the moment is that we find a way to send email from BB's to vendors OUTSIDE our network in a secure way that is readable by them. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeff, You really need to understand PKI with regards to how it works before you can really implement encryption. I assume you are running some flavor of exchange and are looking to encrypt messages, have you looked at this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb123466(EXCHG.65).aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124155(EXCHG.65).aspx It references 2003, but SMIME/PKI is not largely different between applications or exchange versions. From the sounds of your email I think you are confusing different types of encryption, eg: yes you can use transport encryption with SSL certificates that are trusted by all platforms/browsers without interchanging keys (because in essence the public key has already been accepted), but if you are looking for message encryption, you will need USER certificates, which will still need to be accepted by clients. So when you tell exchange to encrypt all outgoing email, you are encrypting the transport from Exchange to the other server, but you are NOT encrypting the message itself. (Yes you can tell Exchange to encrypt all outgoing, and yes you can tell Exchange to encrypt transport to only a specific domain.) So really it comes down to what exactly you are hoping to do, do you want full message encryption or simply to prevent sniffing of traffic on the open internet? As for blackberry, you can do both here as well. If you are running this you can sign/encrypt individual messages using SMIME. http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexternalId=KB10199sliceId=SAL_PublicdialogID=55761554stateId=0%200%2055759922 If you
Exchange Admin Permission Problem
I am trying to setup journaling and when I log on to ESM the features are all greyed out. E2k3 on W2k3 servers. Latest service paks. I have tried logging on using an exchange admin account that IS NOT a member of Domain Admins or any other built-in admin group and I have tried logging in as administrator, which is how exchange was installed on all these boxes. I have a FE server and 3 BE servers. 1 of the BE servers has no mailboxes. We are trying to Journal to a new mailbox on that server. The only server the option to journal is NOT greyed out on is the FE server. I have logged directly on to each server several different ways. Have manually removed the deny send/receive permissions. Really Jammed up here. Anyone have any suggestions? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Exchange Admin Permission Problem
Never mind. System Policy was the answer! On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to setup journaling and when I log on to ESM the features are all greyed out. E2k3 on W2k3 servers. Latest service paks. I have tried logging on using an exchange admin account that IS NOT a member of Domain Admins or any other built-in admin group and I have tried logging in as administrator, which is how exchange was installed on all these boxes. I have a FE server and 3 BE servers. 1 of the BE servers has no mailboxes. We are trying to Journal to a new mailbox on that server. The only server the option to journal is NOT greyed out on is the FE server. I have logged directly on to each server several different ways. Have manually removed the deny send/receive permissions. Really Jammed up here. Anyone have any suggestions? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
MX/txt record confusion
I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a couple of folks using that domain email. Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at x.x.x.x . I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain, mail.secondarydomain.com This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange specialist, in whom I have a lot of confidence. That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out using mail.secondarydomain.com?? Can someone enlighten me please? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: MX/txt record confusion
An employee who uses an @secondarydomain. address sent a message to someone and their mail server did the reverse lookup and bounced the message. The smpt message says, mail.primarydomain.com #5.5.0 smtp;553 sorry, relaying denied from your location and then has to correct IP address listed at the end of that message. Only reason I can see for it to fail to lookup would be the inconsistency between her email address and the mx lookup or whatever resolved to mail.primarydomain.com and not mail.secondarydomain.com?? As you can see, I have only a very basic grasp of what may be going on here. On Jan 24, 2008 3:21 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, from the outside, you tried to send an e-mail to your MX record for mail.primarydomain.com, and you got an unable to relay NDR (bounce) message? Was that address local to that MX record? If yes, you probably have a spam filter issue. Note: TXT records are for specifying SPF or SenderID information. You are still missing PTR records. Does your mail server do the DNS ménage à trois? http://www.espinola.net/blog/archives/5 On Jan 24, 2008 4:14 PM, Jeff Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a secondary domain setup in my exchange environment, only a couple of folks using that domain email. Got an ndr that says unable to relay for mail.primarydomain.com at x.x.x.x. I have setup mx, A and txt records for the secondary email domain, mail.secondarydomain.com This was done with the help of a consultant who is an exchange specialist, in whom I have a lot of confidence. That being said, I'm wondering if exchange ever really sends mail out using mail.secondarydomain.com?? Can someone enlighten me please? -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: GoExchange Response
I wondered what tool you were going to use to thicken you skin... On Jan 22, 2008 1:30 PM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *I get that way daily sir!!* ** *I learned a Lo time back just how little I do know compared to some of the excellent list members here, including our hosts, Sunbelt Software and all their team.* ** *NOW, THOSE PEOPLE ROCK* ** *Please Don, keep the comments coming, it makes one think and rethink their situation and I appreciate that.* ** *NOW, someone pass the beer will ya!!* -- *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:06 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: GoExchange Response I wasn't in an uproar... :P And just for the record, the other day I was talking to myself because I couldn't remember where the config file for NTOP was and I said, self, you fscking idiot, stop being so stupid!. On Jan 22, 2008 10:56 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA!! Well, in my 19-20 years in this field, I agree it's been far and few between the number of times I have had to use the so called exchange utilities, however, w hen I came on board, this company was using DEMO backup software to backup files, but no Exchange backup so ANDY, you are correct, if a good admin has backups that are verified, there is no need for such a utility and it is like nails on a chalk board when I get the notification that GoExchange is getting ready to perform its' maintenance. Unfortunately, not everyone is as knowledgeable as Don Ely, that's why we depend on our fellow Admins subscribed to this list, even Don. Don, my skin is quite thick, thank you!!, and yes, unlike you who places yourself leagues above everyone else, I do feel stupid sometimes. That's why I subscribe to this excellent list and encourage other less fortunate Admins to do so to gain a greater knowledge of how to do things the right way. Your comments are appreciated sir. My apologies for getting your balls in an uproar. ** -- *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:43 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: GoExchange Response To clarify, I did NOT say you were stupid because you used the program... I said This product was created for stupid people who don't read the documentation or listen to PSS... So, that wasn't necessarily directed at you. Apparently, it was more appropriately directed at your predecessor and you were the unfortunate soul that had to deal with the product... You just happen to take offense to the statement. In which case, I would say you might need to thicken your skin... Their product is designed for a niche market and I would classify that market for so-called Exchange admins lacking the brain cells to actually be called admins[1]. Would do me no good to tell them I thought poorly of their product as it clearly wasn't designed for Exchange admins with a clue. Oh, and my hard evidence regarding their product... I can count on one hand how many times I have run ESEUTIL or ISINTEG on an Exchange database in the last 11-12 years. And of those times, I was a consultant called in for emergency support to ressurect Exchange... [1] Is that better than the shorter version stupid? On Jan 22, 2008 10:31 AM, Tom Strader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I can take constructive criticism and welcome it if its done in a positive light, but classifying anyone as stupid just because they use a program you disagree with is very unprofessional. I DO know Exchange and how to use the utilities (manually), learned the hard way. I didn't want to use the program: 1. Because its grossly overpriced 2. I feel it is unnecessary if, like you say, you know how to administer Exchange. However, I was literally forced to purchase and install it for this company due to their experience with the last stupid administrator. Thanks for your comments anyhow. I'd suggest if you are so adamantly against such a program, you might want to contact them and express your feelings to them and provide hard evidence to disapprove the use of the program so that we can avoid having other stupid administrators in the world. Have a good day sir! ** -- *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:14 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: GoExchange Response I don't recall what page it was, but when I read this product was designed because most IT people don't know what order to run these utilities, etc...; my opinion was quickly formed... That said, if you don't know how to administer Exchange and have no intention of learning, this product is for you. If you DO
