Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Plus -- LinuxLAND

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear Alan and friends:

My deep apologies for getting myself and everybody else confused. Yes,
it's LinuxLand, NOT LinuxMart or LinuxMall. Glad I threw in the URL with
the right address.

Benjamin

Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> Benjaminyes, exactly!  LinuxLand is where I ordered my 7.1
> 2 CD set as well.
> 
> But because you said your 7.1 CD set was coming from LinuxMart
> in your original posting (and now again in this posting, but
> this time you left a clue, the URL to LinuxLand) I was amazed.
> 
> Why?!  Because I hadn't been able to find such a product at
> LinuxMart/LinuxMall (LinuxMart and Linux Mall are the same
> place, but LinuxLand [formerly called Circadian Software] is a
> completely different company).
> 
> URL to LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/
> URL to LinuxMart is http://www.LinuxMart.com/
> URL to LinuxMall is http://www.LinuxMall.com/
> 
> Alan
> 
> Benjamin Sher wrote:
> >
> > Dear friends:
> >
> > I found the 2-CD Linux 7.1 at LinuxMart. I got there from the
> > www.mandrake.com page (Look for Purchase, CD on the left). The URL for
> > LinuxLand is
> >
> > http://www.LLand.com/
> >
> > The specific URL for the 2-CD 7.1 with full description is at:
> >
> > http://www.LLand.com/products/specialsview.asp?ID=49
> >
> > Of course, I can't say anything else until I get it, hopefully on Friday
> > (2-day standard delivery). You can even get it overnight if you are
> > willing to pay for it.
> >
> > WARNING 1: Be sure you order the 2-CD 7 Plus (7+) and NOT the 1-CD 7.
> > WARNING 2: Note that the 7.1 Power Pack ($46) won't be available till
> > JULY (!), so don't order it unless you are willing to wait till then.
> > The PowerPack is always a few weeks behind the latest version just put
> > out. The present PowerPack is for 7.0, not 7.1!
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Benjamin
> >
> > Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Benjaminhow did you place your order?  Here's the results
> > > I got from a search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1':
> > >
> > >  Sorry, no products were found in your search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'
> > >
> > > Mandrake was totally left off of the list of 13 Penguin
> > > Power CD's when I chose to navigate to:
> > >
> > >  Software->Apps and Utilities->Operating Systems->Linux CDs & Bundles
> > >
> > > But an actual search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.0' turned up
> > > these 4 items:
> > >
> > >  Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0
> > >  Deluxe Linux Mandrake Operating System 7.0
> > >  Linux Mandrake Operating System Complete 7.0
> > >  Linux-Mandrake Penguin Power CD 7.0
> > >
> > > However, searches for 'Linux Mandrake' and 'Linux Mandrake 7'
> > > come up with a 'no match' just like my original search for
> > > 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'.
> > >
> > > I don't see very much support any more at LinuxMall/LinuxMart
> > > for the Linux Mandrake distro.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > Benjamin Sher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear friends:
> > > >
> > > > My apologies for writing from Win98. I tried to install the new
> > > > Linux-Mandrake 7.1 last night and accidently wiped out my entire Linux
> > > > installation by resizing my partitions.
> > > >
> > > > Am waiting for my 2-CD set from LinuxMart.
> > > >
> > > > Benjamin
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Benjamin and Anna Sher
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sher's Russian Web
> > > > http://www.websher.net
> >
> > --
> > Benjamin and Anna Sher
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sher's Russian Web
> > http://www.websher.net

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Re: [expert] ANNOUNCE: New public forum (and second round ofdiscussions)

[Civileme]

Or perhaps pole as in what is counted when one integrates along a
coutour that contains no zeroes internally--the highest point in
complex space.  You have to watch out for those mathematicians,
Alan. .-)

Civileme


Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> Denisin linuxpole.com the word pole means a long
> cylindrical object, like a flag pole or a fishing pole.  I
> believe whoever came up with the domain linuxpole.com was
> actually aiming for linuxpoll.com where the word poll means a
> survey or a place where one can vote. :-)
> 
> Alan
> 
> Denis HAVLIK wrote:
> >
> > Hi, folks
> >
> > new forum
> > ---
> >
> > You all know the limitations of our present comunication medium (e-mail
> > list), right? Like delays, no scoring, no treads...
> >
> > Well, we are trying to introduce a slashdot-based discussion forum, and
> > for now we will concentrate on "future of the distribution".
> >
> > http://www.linuxpole.com
> >
> > second round of discussions
> > --
> >
> > Unlike the question I asked you two weeks ago (just tell as everything you
> > can think of), now we have to concentrate ourselves to already existing
> > topics - I have already posted one (infamous "UPGRADE" question), other
> > will follow.
> >
> > By the way, a lot of your sugestions were found "good" and "simple
> > to implement" - there will be no big discussion on these. (I hope I will
> > be able to send you a summary of such topics next week.)
> > Some other requests were found "too dificult", so we cannot do anything
> > about them now.
> >
> > Howeven, some questions were very interesting, and caused big debates on
> > our internal lists, but we were unable to come to conclusion. These
> > questions will be posted on  our new web-forum - maybe you can help us
> > find right answers.
> >
> > cu
> > Denis
> >
> > --
> > -
> > Dr. Denis Havlik
> > Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Quality Assurance  (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
> > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me
> > spread!

[expert] ATA-66 and Abit BE6-II

[Stephen Boulet]

Just wanted to check this out before purchasing:

Can I have one 20 gig ATA-66 Maxtor hard drive on a BE6-II board as my only
hard disk?

Thanks.

-- Stephen

[expert] 7.1 and SBLive config error

[Stephen Boulet]

Running 7.1 with a SBLive, I can hear Linus' test audio message, but the second
test (a midi file, I think) fails with:

  sox: Can't open output file'/dev/dsp': No such device

Any help on this one? Thanks.

-- Stephen

Re: [expert] gcc compile error

[John Hawk]

On Thu, 08 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> Instaling gcc make and automake on a instalation afther the normanl install
> I get the following error on ./configure
> 
> -
> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
> cannot create executables.
> -
> 
> I used 
> rpm --install 
> to install the files. What did I do wrong and how can I fix this without
> reinstalling Mandrake 7.02
> 
> I know that this program compiles with Mandrake if I do a devoloper instalation.
> 
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[expert] XFree 4 vs 3.3.6 in 7.1

[Stephen Boulet]

I selected the option of trying out xfree 4 in my upgrade to 7.1.

Does anyone know how to choose between the two from the console?

-- Stephen

[expert]

[Greg DeYoung]

I know this may not be the forum for this question but I posted it on the newbie list
twice, and nobody seems to be able to give me an answer of what is happening.  I know
this not a unique problem, because I saw two other posts with the same problem.  Please
Help.

Thanks,
Greg DeYoung


>I just downloaded the new 7.1 and installed on my computer
on the second hard drive.  
> I'm running: >  
> Shuttle MB w/Celeron 500 
> 128MB
> RAM > IDE/33
> 1 - 6GB IDE
> 1 - 8GB IDE
> Voodo3 2000 AGP
> 5X DVD
> ATAPI ZIP
> Ensoniq Audio PCI
> 
> I configured a 5GB partition as the Linux partition in the first slot of the second
> drive.  Then I configured a 256MB Linux Swap.> 
> I'm also running System Commander 2000 as a boot manager.> 
> I installed 7.1 in expert mode and installed it to the first partition on the second
> hard drive.  I set the LILO to boot from that partition.  I also tried to do the same
> install only using GRUB in the same configuration.> 
> When I boot up into System Commander and choose the mandrake Linux to boot  it will
start to boot into the linux partition, and leave System Commander.  Then I get the
> first letter of LILO "L" then a constant stream of 01 01 01 01 01 01 and it just
> continues.  I have to reset the machine to get out of it.  Anyone have any idea what 
is
> happening.  I'm assuming it is a bad LILO install, but I reinstalled three times.
> > Please Help...> > Thanks,> Greg DeYoung

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[expert] dock apps

[Ralph]

Hi,
Can some please explain to me how to install dock apps in window maker.
I cxant figure where they go or wher to install them.

Thanks,
Ralph
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Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1

[Don]

On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> "Dan Bélisle" wrote:
> > 
> > Hi !
> > 
> > I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it predecessor my
> > ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !!
> > 
> > At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the installation
> > is stoped (stone) at this point.
> > 
> > So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !!
> > 
> > Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that.
> > 
> > Thanks everyone !
> > 
> > Danny.
> > 
> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
> 
> 
> Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives
> themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well.  386
> code allows much greater variance from specifications.
> 
> If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of
> several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird
> timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a
> problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use
> 386 code.  That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the
> envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to
> specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to
> maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has
> been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in
> the dominant desktop system.  Now those same folks are saying
> things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls.
> 
> The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently
> a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard
> right the first time.
> 
> Civileme
-- 
If he has WesternDigital drives, there is a floppydisk that goes with those
drives. He must use the floppy to set the drives in UDMA66 mode.  They 
won't work otherwise.  BTW I am running NT4.0 on a WD20.5 G HDF and
Linux Mandrake 7.0-2 on a 15.5 G as HDF and booting off of the HDE drive
directly into linux.These drives are on the IDE3 port.

ttyl, 

Don   

[expert] ADSL INFO

[David M. Kufta]

I would like to give thanks to those who offered suggestions as to
necessary configuration/setup for DSL service under Linux-Mandrake,
Civilme ,Vincent Danen Jean-Michelt Dault. Thank you for your advise and
direction. I have found that initially to setup infospeed dsl service
acount with bellatlantic.net as the service provider requires that you
be running a version of Windows95,98,NT,or the MAC OS, I will need to
dig up some install CD's and put Windows on my clients system in order
to initiate the services with bellatlantic.net. Once that is
accomplished it appears as though the setup In Linux should be quite
easy, I hope any way. Thank's once again for the advise.
 I would also like to acknowledge the Great efforts of the Mandrake
developers in providing a very nice version of 7.1 (Helium)
I have installed it now on six different systems 2 of which were fresh
installs and 4 that were upgrades, including my own system and all seems
to be working very well. Thank's for all your effort's, Great Job !

Dave

David M. Kufta
Konsult Ltd.
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[expert] auto update menu's in 7.1

[Jason Straight]

I just rebooted my system to find all the changes I made to the menu's
in kde gone - how does one edit the mandrake menu's so they stay
constant or disable the menu update util?


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to computers all over the world like wildfire and causing them to become
unstable. In order to remove it go to www.linux-mandrake.com and follow
the installation instructions.

[expert] upgrade and more

[Hans-Åke Bergqvist]

Hello

Sorry I used OE to write my latest letter and missed to kick HTML off.
I have used Linux (mostly RedHat) for two years. I love it. Most of it has gone
smothly. I installed mdk 7.02 without a hassle and it was very good.  Then I
read from the list about the new and better 7.1 and thougt it would be a
hassle to upgrade (I knew although that it should take a long time). But when I
tried to install the 7.1b - as I wrote in my latest letter - the upgrade did not
function and  then a new install did not work the elegant way 7.0 did. I wonder
if any of you have made the upgrade to 7.1 and can tell me how it went. and
where you did get your files/CDs from. I bought mine from cheapbytes.com.

Hans
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Re: [expert] Gaim 0.9.18 RPM troubles.

[Fran Parker]

I don't get it.  I installed the gaim-0.9.18-1.i386.rpm
and had none of these troubles.

Sorry,
Bambi

Civileme wrote:

> "Alan N." wrote:
> >
> > Ivan Trail wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > After the recent discussion on getting Gaim 0.9.18, I tried it out.  I can't
> > > get .tar.gz to compile as I don't have all the stuff needed to do this.  So a
> > > trip to the ftp site at marko.net ended me with an RPM.  After installing it,
> > > all seems to go well, but after siginig on, the second window appears for the
> > > splittest of split seconds and the app colses it's self.  The debug script is
> > > so fast I can't read it and the debug window closes with the rest of the app.
> > >
> > > If I open it from a terminal, the sam happens but in the terminal I get
> > > "segmentation fault" which doesn't sound too good at all.
> > >
> > > Any help would be appreciated, either getting the tar or RPM going.  I used
> > > gaim quite extensively, because it is a good program.
> > >
> >
> > I'm in the EXACT SAME SITUATION you are.  Identical.  I too would like
> > the solution.
> >
> > I am running Helix-Gnome if it matters.
> > Alan
> >
> > --
> > -
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Running RedHat Linux 6.2 and/or
> > BeOS 5.0.  No Windows involved!
> > -
>
> Can reproduce here.  Should we have the packager taken out and
> shot?  Ummm  I have a better idea, let's ask for a refund. ;-}
>
> Yes it looks like the rpm needs to be repackaged.  I can compile
> from the tarball and it works but if I build from the src.rpm or
> use the binary rpm... I reproduce the behavior of which you
> speak.
>
> Get out your distro CDs and add a few packages, like the libs
> that have -devel- in the name and make sure you have a version of
> the compiler for g++ to point to.  Alternatively, go to
> www.everybuddy.com and download the rpm.  You cannot find chat
> rooms as easily, but you have access to Yahoo, MSN, AIM, and ICQ
> in one program.  I know that rpm works, and if you have an
> addiction to or friends on any of those services, you can use it
> until someone replaces the package.
>
> Civileme

[expert] looking for driver(s) for SCSI card Storage Plus Inc

[J. Caldwell]

Greetings:

I would really appreciate hearing if anyone 
has something for this card.

It is a real "oldie" and the company is out of business.
Card works fine under Windoze and Dos

Thanks in advance

Jim

Re: [expert] Gaim 0.9.18 RPM troubles.

[Matt Stegman]

Yes, I get the same behavior, even on RedHat 6.0.  Even compiling from teh
tarball.  Dropping back to 0.9.16 solves the problem (17 had a bug I
didn't want to mess with).

-Matt Stegman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Ivan Trail wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> After the recent discussion on getting Gaim 0.9.18, I tried it out.  I can't
> get .tar.gz to compile as I don't have all the stuff needed to do this.  So a
> trip to the ftp site at marko.net ended me with an RPM.  After installing it,
> all seems to go well, but after siginig on, the second window appears for the
> splittest of split seconds and the app colses it's self.  The debug script is
> so fast I can't read it and the debug window closes with the rest of the app.
> 
> If I open it from a terminal, the sam happens but in the terminal I get
> "segmentation fault" which doesn't sound too good at all.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated, either getting the tar or RPM going.  I used
> gaim quite extensively, because it is a good program.
> 
> PS.  Another person suggested getting the linux script from aol.  I tried this
> but How in the world are you supposed to execute a file not marked executable?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ivan trail.
> 
> I am new at this but I am learning!
> 

[expert] OT: hard drive performance

[Guillermo Belli]

Hi:

I just bougt a new Quantum Fireball ict10 10.2 GB and isntalled it on my
computer. It is a UDMA/66 drive and I have no UDMA/66 controlller, but it runs
slower than my old Maxtor 8.5GB. Shoulnd't the new drive be faster, even
working in UDMA/33 mode?
Here are the results with hdparm -d1 -c1 -u1 -m16 -t -T /dev/hd?

Maxtor 8.4GB UDMA33
/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  3.40 seconds =39.95 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  5.14 seconds =14.25 MB/sec   

Quantum 10.2GB UDMA66
/dev/hdc:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  3.40 seconds =37.65 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  5.14 seconds =12.45 MB/sec   


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Re: [expert] GNU/Linux -- Follower or Leader?

[Necrotica]

Before I start, let me apologize if this email doesn't look right.but my
Linux installation is currently out of service as I am upgrading to Mandrake
7.1.

Anyways, while installing the new Mandrake release I have been thinking
about the original "Follower or Leader" email that was posted yesterday. The
author, whose name I unfortunately forget at this time, made some very valid
points. While certain companies are innovating Linux developers seem to be
playing catch up and developing even more text editors.

I have to agree with the author in the context to which his email was
written. Linux, for the most part, tends to follow the lead of other
companies who are developing for rival operating systems. But thats OK. And
let me tell you why.

Microsoft's biggest player is the Windows client: Windows 9x. A pure client
operating system if there ever was one developed. Although not robust or
stable by any stretch of the imagination, Windows 9x caters to the home
user. Johnny Sixpack can go buy a new computer with preinstalled Windows 9x
software and learn how to use it to his desire within a few days or weeks,
depending on how much time he spends in the Windows 9x environment. He
doesn't need to know how the operating system works, and for that matter he
doesn't care. Initially he wants to "install the Internet" and play a few
games. Once he becomes a little more comfortable with the new digital
paradigm he might dive into the world of personal finances and other
"useful" applications that can be easily bought from his local SuperTarget
or Circuit City.

Microsoft caters to Johnny. If it weren't for Johnny wanting to install the
Internet Microsoft would not be in the position that its currently in.
Microsoft wants Johnny to remain loyal, but Microsoft knows that someday
Johnny is going to get a little bored. So Microsoft spends millions of
dollars each year in research and development to razzle dazzle Johnny.
Imagine how impressed Johnny will be when he can command his computer with
spoken words!

And then there's the filthy few: people who generally have above average
intelligence, a knack for technology, and usually consider "computer
science", in any of its forms, to be a hobby. They know the Internet isn't
an application. They remember life before IRC when they had access to a
"borrowed" university VMS account, typed in 'yzzy relay' at a prompt and all
of a sudden were talking to people all over the planet. They had no idea how
it worked, but man, it was cool! They showed their friends and the friends
didn't care. So they spent time at home learning more, experimenting more,
and realizing that the computer can empower its user to do just about
anything. They also soon realized that Microsoft's premier client operating
system wasn't enough. These are the people that use Linux.

I am one of those people. I am 28 years old and have been using a computer
for 17 years. Although its no longer my interest I was programming in 8-bit
assembler on a Commodore 64 by the time I was 12. When I was 13 and
discovered the miracles of marijuana I was coding in pure machine language
(had to be stoned for that). Networking is my thing now. I get such a
superiority complex when I'm planning, designing, or administering a
network. I know my stuff.

And I can type faster than I could ever hope decent speech recognition
software could ever keep up. I don't care about the latest advances in the
user interface - I want the machine to work. I want my software to work
properly. I want the ability to configure EVERYTHING because I know I
possess the skill set to do it correctly. And most of all I want to learn.

Whether Linux is a follower or a leader just doesn't matter. Linux works.
Linux empowers. Linux doesn't crash. Although there is sometimes a lot of
preliminary work, Linux lets me do the stuff that I need to do a lot faster.
Johnny doesn't need a caching proxy server. Hell I don't think I do either.
But I have one simply because I can, its cool, and I'm smart enough to do
it.

I want to know my operating system inside and out. Johnny doesn't.

I want to be able to easily write a dumb little program for no reason at all
other than for the challenge of doing it. Johnny would rather download
something.

I don't want to pay for my software. Johnny doesn't mind buying the software
he uses.

There are a lot of Johnnys out there. Its these people who are easily taken
by the smoke and mirrors of Microsoft. But the people in the Filthy Few, the
ones who will one day be senior account managers, senior analysts, and
senior vice presidents of major corporations because of their skill and
knowledge of the industry, know better.

I think most Linux users would feel the same way.

-Chris

[expert] Touchscreen drivers for mandrake.

[Robert Kimball]

Does anyone have a touchscreen driver for mandrake linux or know where i 
could find one?  it would really be appreciated.  thank you.


Rob

Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 09:41 -0400, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote:
> A good GUI based FTP prog. is IglooFTP Pro.
> Reminds me a lot of Cute FTP.
> 

I'm using gFTP now for some time. It has a nice GUI, you can
save your bookmarks, you can use it like a filemanager with two
windows (like mc) and you can mark a whole bunch of files for
D'l.
I use it to up/download my homepage stuff

It's part of Mandrake distro.
 
wobo
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Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 08 Jun 2000, you wrote:

> > Doesn't gmc do FTP?
> 
> Well, what I really look for is something with 
Tree-based file-system view (long filanes get to be a pain
on text-based FTP), and a QUE functionality, wherby I can
add a ton of files from anywhere to a QUE, then transfer
them.  For small stuff I still and probably always will
just use the text-based ftp program.  However, the industry
(their are people out there who are GUI only that might
want to use a little linux) still doesn't have a perfect
GUI ftp client yet, although GFTP is 70% there, if not 90%
there, all it really needs is a QUE functionality like
Cute-FTP, and maybe a MP3 file search like Cute-FTP, and
that would be 100% what the industry needs
>
Two things -- 1) long messages with no line breaks SUCK! :-)
(Just my $0.02)
2) Have you LOOKED for a GUI FTP client lately? I've taken
a look at a couple, and I *know* there's a ton of 'em at
Linuxberg!
John

Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1

[M Thompson]

The Mandrake kernel doesn't ship with the IDE patch included.  Suse 
developed the patch but it is still somewhat buggy.  The other distros still 
hesitate to use it.

Check out this link:
http://linux.nf/stepbystep.htm
click on the Ultra66 link.

Those links will explain how to install Linux onto a drive that's connected 
to an ATA66 controller.


Hope that helps,
Matt


>From: "Dan Bélisle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
>Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 05:37:27 PDT
>
>Hi !
>
>My drive is a Quantum Fireball KX 13.6gig 7200Rpm.
>My motherboard is  a Soyo 6BA +IV with the onboard HPT366 controller.
>
>And i say again, he work very well with SUSE 6.4 !
>what's wrong ?
>
>Thanks again !!
>
>Danny.
>
>
>>From: Civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
>>Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:16:59 -0800
>>
>>"Dan Bélisle" wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi !
>> >
>> > I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it 
>>predecessor my
>> > ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !!
>> >
>> > At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the 
>>installation
>> > is stoped (stone) at this point.
>> >
>> > So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !!
>> >
>> > Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that.
>> >
>> > Thanks everyone !
>> >
>> > Danny.
>> > 
>>
>> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at 
>>http://www.hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives
>>themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well.  386
>>code allows much greater variance from specifications.
>>
>>If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of
>>several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird
>>timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a
>>problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use
>>386 code.  That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the
>>envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to
>>specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to
>>maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has
>>been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in
>>the dominant desktop system.  Now those same folks are saying
>>things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls.
>>
>>The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently
>>a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard
>>right the first time.
>>
>>Civileme
>>
>
>
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>


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Re: [expert] New h/drive

[Civileme]

Mark Griebling wrote:

> Seagate man, Seagate!
>
> Later,
>
> At 07:38 AM 6/8/00 +0100, Ted Wager wrote:
>
> Hi...
> I am buying a new h/drive for my machine.It has a Maxtor in at the moment but
> I need another drive...I know Ican read the h/ware howtos but they are not so
> up to date..Any info on recommended drives or ones to steer clear of  other
> than Western Digital would be welcome...
>
> Regards Ted
>
>  Ted Wager..Mandrake linux
>g3tpi.ampr.org  44.131.147.8

If your current drive has performed well and you plan to keep it installed, stay
with your brand.  The timing requirements are likely to be much more compatible.

My own personal considerations these days run to IBM and Quantum because the data
I have collected suggests a better MTBF in those brand names.  It is however
dangerous to assume that MTBF by brand name calculations are valid--there are too
many models and technical approaches within a single technology to say that
figuring backwards from data points will produce the correct curve.

Seagate is good for certain chipsets, but I have observed signal reflections on
i810, VIA MVP3, and MVP4, Intel 430 TX, and ALi Aladdin V under Pentium code.  The
problem is highly pronounced with TX chipsets, resulting in corrupt data that
appears to write OK and is totally unreadable when the TX chipset is clocked at 75
MHz (as for a Cyrix processor).  I did get "lost interrupt" errors on a very
modern i810 with a Celeron 400 and a Barracuda 10.2G.  Windows, FreeBSD, and such
loaded fine, but Stampede, Enoch and Mandrake could not even install.  (All were
processor optimised)  Mandrake 486 could run this with only occasional reports of
disk errors.

Civileme

Re: [expert] Gaim 0.9.18 RPM troubles.

[John Aldrich]

On Thu, 08 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> 
> I'm in the EXACT SAME SITUATION you are.  Identical.  I too would like
> the solution.
> 
Try switching to EveryBuddy. It works here ('course so does
GAIM 0.9.18, if I wanted it.. )
John

Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[John Aldrich]

On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> 
> 1) Netscape to use my windows directory so I can read mail from either OS (when I 
>contract in some Access Work, I can't pick my OS, and there's no good FTP client for 
>Linux, like Cute-FTP, not to mention the win-modem thing)
> 
This would be next to impossible due to the problems in
file locking between Fat/Fat32 and EXT2 FS. There are
currently kludges, but it's a good way to scramble your
DOS/Windows file system if you're not careful.
>
> 2) On an install / upgrade, all I'd really want in an upgrade is a chance to choose 
>amongst saving all the more common settings (users , home directory settings for 
>root, apache settings, mysql settings etc..) everything else can be Wiped and 
>re-installed, it's easier and generally less problem-prone, IMHO
>
Good point!
> 
> 3) A semi-Gui or full-Gui kernel re-compile script / program.
>
Make X-config (or is it Xconfig, or xconfig) anyway,
it's already there!
>
> 4**) More push from Mandrake to get win-modem
> drivers for their distro, even binaries. > 
> 
Sure they're common, but why the heck would you WANT to use
a WinModem? WinModems suck BIG time! I have one built-into
the motherboard of one of my computers and I've disabled it
completely because I couldn't get it to work. Same thing
with the "on-board" ethernet in the same system. It was a
piece of crap NIC.
John

Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[Christopher Quale]

I just set up dsl for my bro-in law and he used pppoe to connect.
I used the "roaring-penguin (no URL handy), which is what it sounds
like you are using. We were able to get it working, but the one
"gotcha" was that during the install program, they ask you to provide
a username, and the example they give is "username@accessprovider",
however, at that stage, only give the username. After that everything
(including the firewall scripts) worked like an absolute charm.

You can email me if you have more problems.

Chris


Vincent Danen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, David M. Kufta wrote:
> 
> > I have a client who would like to install an external dsl modem on his
> > Linux system and seem to be having one devil of a time getting this
> > thing to work. I s anyone on the list currently using adsl with an
> > external modem under Linux-Mandrake, and might anyone have some
> > information as to how to set this up? pppoe calls a script
> > /usr/sbin/adsl-start which doesnot seemed to be installed and for the
> > life of me I can seem to find it. Ideas anyone ?
> 
> What kind of external DSL modem?  I'm using a 3COM Home Connect ADSL
> Ethernet modem...  plugs into my ethernet card and I don't use pppoe or
> anything funky like that.  My ISP gave me a gateway IP address and I use
> that, just as one would with a cable modem.  Maybe you're making it more
> difficult than it needs to be and he doesn't need to use pppoe?
> 
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Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[Eugene Grimsdell]

On Thu, 08 Jun 2000, Eric Aksomitis wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > What is a "good FTP client"? Does it have to be a WIMP-type program? I find
> > ncftp to be pretty damn nice. But it doesn't use the mouse or have a fancy
> > graphical layout.
> > 
> > Doesn't gmc do FTP?
> 
> Well, what I really look for is something with Tree-based file-system view (long 
>filanes get to be a pain on text-based FTP), and a QUE functionality, wherby I can 
>add a ton of files from anywhere to a QUE, then transfer them.  For small stuff I 
>still and probably always will just use the text-based ftp program.  However, the 
>industry (their are people out there who are GUI only that might want to use a little 
>linux) still doesn't have a perfect GUI ftp client yet, although GFTP is 70% there, 
>if not 90% there, all it really needs is a QUE functionality like Cute-FTP, and maybe 
>a MP3 file search like Cute-FTP, and that would be 100% what the industry 
>needs
> 
> .02 Given
> 
> Eric Aksomitis
> http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/re_answer.shtml


Well I want a good file-manager intergraded with samba somthing like Corel
Linux file manager for KDE but it must have a ftp link on the tree view where
you can and ftp sites, and logins.

It alredy has NFS, windows network and local file system.

This is the only reason I use Corel for desktops and Mandrake for Servers.

Re: [expert] ANNOUNCE: New public forum (and second round of discussions)

[Alan Shoemaker]

Denisin linuxpole.com the word pole means a long
cylindrical object, like a flag pole or a fishing pole.  I
believe whoever came up with the domain linuxpole.com was
actually aiming for linuxpoll.com where the word poll means a
survey or a place where one can vote. :-)

Alan


Denis HAVLIK wrote:
> 
> Hi, folks
> 
> new forum
> ---
> 
> You all know the limitations of our present comunication medium (e-mail
> list), right? Like delays, no scoring, no treads...
> 
> Well, we are trying to introduce a slashdot-based discussion forum, and
> for now we will concentrate on "future of the distribution".
> 
> http://www.linuxpole.com
> 
> second round of discussions
> --
> 
> Unlike the question I asked you two weeks ago (just tell as everything you
> can think of), now we have to concentrate ourselves to already existing
> topics - I have already posted one (infamous "UPGRADE" question), other
> will follow.
> 
> By the way, a lot of your sugestions were found "good" and "simple
> to implement" - there will be no big discussion on these. (I hope I will
> be able to send you a summary of such topics next week.)
> Some other requests were found "too dificult", so we cannot do anything
> about them now.
> 
> Howeven, some questions were very interesting, and caused big debates on
> our internal lists, but we were unable to come to conclusion. These
> questions will be posted on  our new web-forum - maybe you can help us
> find right answers.
> 
> cu
> Denis
> 
> --
> -
> Dr. Denis Havlik
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> ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
> Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me
> spread!

Re: [expert] GNU/Linux -- leader or follower?

[John Aldrich]

On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, you wrote:

> Good example, I dual boot (spending 90% of my time in Linux) my primary
> home machine. Sometimes (I do web apps/database integration ect) I need to
> work with a client who uses some ActiveX control like Crystal reports...
> damn no compatibility. Maybe Mozilla could pour a little WINE in...
> 
ActiveX is proprietary, M$-Windows ONLY crap. IT would be
NICE if M$ would release the standards so that other
operating systems and browsers would support it, but AFAIK,
unless Judge Jackson's ruling holds, we're SOL!
John

Re: [expert] ANNOUNCE: New public forum (and second round of discussions)

[Cecil Watson]

Linux-Mandrake ROCKS!

Re: [expert] helium

[John Aldrich]

On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> 
> One question. I have a Creative Riva TNT2 which was detected. I wonder
> if I have to install the proprietary drivers, to get all of this card?
> 
I, too, have a 3-d card here and at home. Here, I've got a
TNT(1) but I don't get any "acceleration" from the card.
You'll need to recompile the Mesa and GL drivers, I think,
to get it to use the on-board hardware acceleration.
Otherwise, you've just got a REALLY nice SVGA card. :-)
That's what I have to do for my Voodoo3-3000 PCI at home. I
*did* have it all compiled for Mandrake 6.0, but then I
went and upgraded to RedHat 6.2. :-)
John

Re: [expert] Mandrake 7.1 Plus -- where to get it

[Alan Shoemaker]

Benjaminyes, exactly!  LinuxLand is where I ordered my 7.1
2 CD set as well.  

But because you said your 7.1 CD set was coming from LinuxMart
in your original posting (and now again in this posting, but
this time you left a clue, the URL to LinuxLand) I was amazed.

Why?!  Because I hadn't been able to find such a product at
LinuxMart/LinuxMall (LinuxMart and Linux Mall are the same
place, but LinuxLand [formerly called Circadian Software] is a
completely different company).

URL to LinuxLand is http://www.LLand.com/
URL to LinuxMart is http://www.LinuxMart.com/
URL to LinuxMall is http://www.LinuxMall.com/

Alan


Benjamin Sher wrote:
> 
> Dear friends:
> 
> I found the 2-CD Linux 7.1 at LinuxMart. I got there from the
> www.mandrake.com page (Look for Purchase, CD on the left). The URL for
> LinuxLand is
> 
> http://www.LLand.com/
> 
> The specific URL for the 2-CD 7.1 with full description is at:
> 
> http://www.LLand.com/products/specialsview.asp?ID=49
> 
> Of course, I can't say anything else until I get it, hopefully on Friday
> (2-day standard delivery). You can even get it overnight if you are
> willing to pay for it.
> 
> WARNING 1: Be sure you order the 2-CD 7 Plus (7+) and NOT the 1-CD 7.
> WARNING 2: Note that the 7.1 Power Pack ($46) won't be available till
> JULY (!), so don't order it unless you are willing to wait till then.
> The PowerPack is always a few weeks behind the latest version just put
> out. The present PowerPack is for 7.0, not 7.1!
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Benjamin
> 
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> >
> > Benjaminhow did you place your order?  Here's the results
> > I got from a search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1':
> >
> >  Sorry, no products were found in your search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'
> >
> > Mandrake was totally left off of the list of 13 Penguin
> > Power CD's when I chose to navigate to:
> >
> >  Software->Apps and Utilities->Operating Systems->Linux CDs & Bundles
> >
> > But an actual search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.0' turned up
> > these 4 items:
> >
> >  Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0
> >  Deluxe Linux Mandrake Operating System 7.0
> >  Linux Mandrake Operating System Complete 7.0
> >  Linux-Mandrake Penguin Power CD 7.0
> >
> > However, searches for 'Linux Mandrake' and 'Linux Mandrake 7'
> > come up with a 'no match' just like my original search for
> > 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'.
> >
> > I don't see very much support any more at LinuxMall/LinuxMart
> > for the Linux Mandrake distro.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Benjamin Sher wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear friends:
> > >
> > > My apologies for writing from Win98. I tried to install the new
> > > Linux-Mandrake 7.1 last night and accidently wiped out my entire Linux
> > > installation by resizing my partitions.
> > >
> > > Am waiting for my 2-CD set from LinuxMart.
> > >
> > > Benjamin
> > >
> > > --
> > > Benjamin and Anna Sher
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sher's Russian Web
> > > http://www.websher.net
> 
> --
> Benjamin and Anna Sher
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sher's Russian Web
> http://www.websher.net

[expert] gcc compile error

[Eugene Grimsdell]

Instaling gcc make and automake on a instalation afther the normanl install
I get the following error on ./configure

-
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot create executables.
-

I used 
rpm --install 
to install the files. What did I do wrong and how can I fix this without
reinstalling Mandrake 7.02

I know that this program compiles with Mandrake if I do a devoloper instalation.

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Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[Charles Curley]

On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 07:04:38AM -0600, Eric Aksomitis wrote:
-> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-> > 
-> > What is a "good FTP client"? Does it have to be a WIMP-type program? I find
-> > ncftp to be pretty damn nice. But it doesn't use the mouse or have a fancy
-> > graphical layout.
-> > 
-> > Doesn't gmc do FTP?
-> 
-> Well, what I really look for is something with Tree-based file-system view (long 
filanes get to be a pain on text-based FTP), and a QUE functionality, wherby I can add 
a ton of files from anywhere to a QUE, then transfer them.  For small stuff I still 
and probably always will just use the text-based ftp program.  However, the industry 
(their are people out there who are GUI only that might want to use a little linux) 
still doesn't have a perfect GUI ftp client yet, although GFTP is 70% there, if not 
90% there, all it really needs is a QUE functionality like Cute-FTP, and maybe a MP3 
file search like Cute-FTP, and that would be 100% what the industry 
needs

ncftp has tab completion of file names, which helps a lot. It also has
background get and put and continuation of a disupted transfer, both of
which are very nice.


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RE: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I just got my Shaw@home a couple of days ago and I don't think its that bad.
The up and down speeds are just fine and even though its dynamic ip's they
don't change very often so I can telnet/ftp/httpd/x session anyway.

BTW I'm in Calgary.



 Stephen Atkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: Vincent Danen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 12:57 PM
To: Linux Mandrake Expert Mailing List
Subject: Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)


On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:

> > > Vincent, what ISP are you using? You're in Canada right? What kind of
DSL
> > > service do you have (download/upload)...
> >
> > My ISP is Nucleus (based out of Calgary, AB) so I get my ADSL from
> > them.  And it's 1.5MB download and 640k upload speeds I believe.  But I
> > get to do pretty much anything I like with it except for streaming
> > audio/video, and I got 7 static IP addresses so it works out pretty
> > good.  And many people have said it's faster than when I was using SHAW
> > for the @home cable connection (for my website and FTP downloads and
> > such).  Go figure.  =)
> >
> > BTW, I'm in Edmonton, AB.
>
> Okay, so you have *real* DSL! =) Many prople have the slower, ADSL-lite,
> at 1 meg/sec and it requires pppoe to obtain its ip address.
>
> It must cost you an arm and a leg, no?

$85/mo plus GST.  Not too bad considering I was paying $40/mo for cable
internet before.  =)

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Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[Vincent Danen]

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:

> > > It must cost you an arm and a leg, no?
> > 
> > $85/mo plus GST.  Not too bad considering I was paying $40/mo for cable
> > internet before.  =)
> 
> Okay, I'm packing my things and going to Edmonton! ;-) Nah! I love
> Montreal way to much for that! =)

hehehe... c'mon... Edmonton rocks... =) 

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Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[Jean-Michel Dault]

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Vincent Danen wrote:

> > It must cost you an arm and a leg, no?
> 
> $85/mo plus GST.  Not too bad considering I was paying $40/mo for cable
> internet before.  =)

Okay, I'm packing my things and going to Edmonton! ;-) Nah! I love
Montreal way to much for that! =)

Jean-Michel Dault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[Vincent Danen]

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:

> > > Vincent, what ISP are you using? You're in Canada right? What kind of DSL
> > > service do you have (download/upload)...
> > 
> > My ISP is Nucleus (based out of Calgary, AB) so I get my ADSL from
> > them.  And it's 1.5MB download and 640k upload speeds I believe.  But I
> > get to do pretty much anything I like with it except for streaming
> > audio/video, and I got 7 static IP addresses so it works out pretty
> > good.  And many people have said it's faster than when I was using SHAW
> > for the @home cable connection (for my website and FTP downloads and
> > such).  Go figure.  =)
> > 
> > BTW, I'm in Edmonton, AB.
> 
> Okay, so you have *real* DSL! =) Many prople have the slower, ADSL-lite,
> at 1 meg/sec and it requires pppoe to obtain its ip address. 
> 
> It must cost you an arm and a leg, no?

$85/mo plus GST.  Not too bad considering I was paying $40/mo for cable
internet before.  =)

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Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[Jean-Michel Dault]

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Vincent Danen wrote:

> > Vincent, what ISP are you using? You're in Canada right? What kind of DSL
> > service do you have (download/upload)...
> 
> My ISP is Nucleus (based out of Calgary, AB) so I get my ADSL from
> them.  And it's 1.5MB download and 640k upload speeds I believe.  But I
> get to do pretty much anything I like with it except for streaming
> audio/video, and I got 7 static IP addresses so it works out pretty
> good.  And many people have said it's faster than when I was using SHAW
> for the @home cable connection (for my website and FTP downloads and
> such).  Go figure.  =)
> 
> BTW, I'm in Edmonton, AB.

Okay, so you have *real* DSL! =) Many prople have the slower, ADSL-lite,
at 1 meg/sec and it requires pppoe to obtain its ip address. 

It must cost you an arm and a leg, no?

Jean-Michel Dault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[expert] RE: [Announce] availability of Linux-Mandrake 7.1 (Helium)

[Pastor Martin J. Hellema]

URGENT URGENT URGENT URGENT

Dear Alix,

Thanks for the announcement, but I have just bought version 7.0 last month,
is there a way to update to 7.1 in a cheap way ? Because downloading is too
much 600 MB on a 56K modem.

Please let me know how I can do this and/or how much it will cost. I guess
that I only need disk 1 and/or 2 for update.

Thank you very much !

My Registration NO. is  LMPP70-215-NIF-Y0EO-KFLN

Martin J. Hellema
KJILM

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2000 20:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Announce] availability of Linux-Mandrake 7.1 (Helium)



We are very pleased to announce the immediate availability of
Linux-Mandrake 7.1 (Helium).

Linux-Mandrake 7.1 continues to build-on and refine the many innovations
first introduced in version 7.0 and adds many new features certain to
please both beginners and experts alike.

The Linux-Mandrake 7.1 GPL archive now spans one or two Cd-Roms to bring
you the best and most up-to-date applications available.

The 7.1 highlights include: support for multiple Cd-Roms at installation
time, a new journalized filesystem, a highly tuned Apache web server and
a web-based configuration tool that allows remote configuration of a
Linux-Mandrake system through a network.

"Linux-Mandrake 7.1 is our latest offering which provides a complete and
powerful operating system ideal for most needs - from the home user to
the demands of an enterprise with high-performance servers, and all at
low cost. With the ergonomic improvements and server solutions provided
with this release, Linux-Linux-Mandrake 7.1 has a great chance of
becoming the new Linux standard for both enterprise and home use."
declared Jacques Le Marois, President of MandrakeSoft.

Linux-Mandrake 7.1 is now available for download from many locations
throughout the Internet. The boxed version, including commercial
applications, printed manuals and support will be available in retail
outlets at the end of June, 2000.

Here's a sampling of some of the most noteworthy benefits:

- Linux-Mandrake 7.1 introduces a new menuing system. Applications now
appear in the same categories under all graphical environments and
update automatically as new packages are installed or removed.

- Linux-Mandrake 7.1 offers the new Reiser journalized file system as an
option within the new DrakX graphical installer and after installation
with DiskDrake, the graphical hard drive partitioning application.

- A highly customized version of Webmin is included. Webmin uses the
familiar interface of a web browser to easily setup user accounts,
configure Apache, DNS, FTP, view system statistics and most other
system/server tasks. Webmin can be used remotely from another PC and
even from other operating systems simply by using a web browser.

- Apache 1.3.12 is enhanced with the latest high-performance offerings
from the "Accelerating Apache Project" and provides out-of-the-box
support for Php3, Perl and Ssl extensions.

- Cutting-edge XFree 4.0 servers with new modular architecture is
available in the "Expert" installation class, XFree 3.3.3.1 is standard
for other classes.

- The Grub user-friendly bootloader is now provided as default. Lilo is
an optional bootloader in an "Expert" install. Both Grub and Lilo now
overcome the 1024-limit.

- Helix Code Gnome improvements are incorporated into the Linux-Mandrake
7.1 Gnome-Sawfish desktop environment.

- DrakFont is our new open-source font manager for Linux-Mandrake 7.1.
This utility provides an easy and convenient way to manage fonts on a
Linux system. DrakFont can add, remove and even retrieve Ms-Windows
fonts (if located on the same machine) and make these fonts available to
Linux applications.

- Kernel 2.2.15 with Linux-Mandrake extensions (secure kernel,
supermount option).

- Ata 66 (Udma 66) is supported for users seeking the
highest-performance from Ide hard drives.

- i810-based mainboards are now supported in Linux-Mandrake 7.1.

- Enhanced USB support for modems, printers, Zip drives, keyboards and
mice.

- "Wheel" mice are fully functional within most applications (Netscape,
Gnome, Kde, many others).

Linux-Mandrake 7.1 continues to provide features that aren't available
in any other Linux distributions such as Supermount (transparent access
to removable media), LSec (Linux security levels), multi-language
support and processor optimizations. Try Linux-Mandrake 7.1 today and
see for yourself why Linux-Mandrake is becoming the preferred choice for
both new and advanced users alike.


website : http://www.linux-mandrake.com/

press release: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/pr-helium.php3

new features : http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/71feat.php3

ftp mirrors : http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3

website : http://www.linux-mandrake.com/


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[expert] NCR 53C*xx raid controller

[mandrake]

I have a compaq proliant mk530 with the NCR 53C8XX pci raid controller and mandrake 
7.1 will not recognize the disk attached to it.  When trying to install I get the 
following error:

no valid devices were found on which to create new file system.

The system has redhat 6.2 installed so I know the controller/disks are fine.

Any ideas why?

-Todd

Re: [expert] stupid IPMASQ question

[Joseph S. Gardner]

David Talbot wrote:

> Do you have a DNS server configured in machine #2?
>
> -David Talbot
>
> At 10:27 AM 6/8/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Civileme wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Box # 1 gateway device is eth1
> >>
> >> Box # 2 gateway is 192.168.100.1
> >>
> >> on box 1
> >>
> >> in /etc/rc.local at the end of the file
> >> ipchains -P forward DENY
> >> ipchains -A forward -i eth1 -j MASQ
> >> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> >>
> >> Then either do the horrid reboot or type those commands in a
> >> terminal as root on box 1
> >>
> >> Now go surf on netscape from box 2 in relative safety.
> >>
> >> You can get firewall scripts that lock down box 1 from several
> >> sources--others on the list know where they are, but this will
> >> get you started.
> >>
> >> Civileme
> >
> >Box #1 gateway is eth0   (set by DSL ISP)
> >Box #1 NIC to tub is eth1 (192.168.100.1)
> >
> >Box #2 NIC to hub is eth1 (192.168.100.2)
> >Box #2 gateway is 192.168.100.1 (box #1's eth1)
> >
> >Well I tried this last night and nut'in honey, hmmm.  From box #2 I tried
> >pinging
> >my webpage (hosted elsewhere) and ping returned with a YPBIND error
> >something about
> >domain not bound.  Ah well back to the drawing board.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Joseph S. Gardner
>

No DNS server configured locally BUT... I do spec out the dns server IP's that
my ISP gave me for my DSL line.


--
Joseph S. Gardner


Linux is like a wigwam...
No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

Registered linux user #1696600
ICQ #63389227

Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[Vincent Danen]

On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:

> > What kind of external DSL modem?  I'm using a 3COM Home Connect ADSL
> > Ethernet modem...  plugs into my ethernet card and I don't use pppoe or
> > anything funky like that.  My ISP gave me a gateway IP address and I use
> > that, just as one would with a cable modem.  Maybe you're making it more
> > difficult than it needs to be and he doesn't need to use pppoe?
> 
> Vincent, what ISP are you using? You're in Canada right? What kind of DSL
> service do you have (download/upload)...

My ISP is Nucleus (based out of Calgary, AB) so I get my ADSL from
them.  And it's 1.5MB download and 640k upload speeds I believe.  But I
get to do pretty much anything I like with it except for streaming
audio/video, and I got 7 static IP addresses so it works out pretty
good.  And many people have said it's faster than when I was using SHAW
for the @home cable connection (for my website and FTP downloads and
such).  Go figure.  =)

BTW, I'm in Edmonton, AB.

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Re: [expert] stupid IPMASQ question

[David Talbot]

Do you have a DNS server configured in machine #2?

-David Talbot

At 10:27 AM 6/8/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Civileme wrote:
>
>>
>> Box # 1 gateway device is eth1
>>
>> Box # 2 gateway is 192.168.100.1
>>
>> on box 1
>>
>> in /etc/rc.local at the end of the file
>> ipchains -P forward DENY
>> ipchains -A forward -i eth1 -j MASQ
>> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>>
>> Then either do the horrid reboot or type those commands in a
>> terminal as root on box 1
>>
>> Now go surf on netscape from box 2 in relative safety.
>>
>> You can get firewall scripts that lock down box 1 from several
>> sources--others on the list know where they are, but this will
>> get you started.
>>
>> Civileme
>
>Box #1 gateway is eth0   (set by DSL ISP)
>Box #1 NIC to tub is eth1 (192.168.100.1)
>
>Box #2 NIC to hub is eth1 (192.168.100.2)
>Box #2 gateway is 192.168.100.1 (box #1's eth1)
>
>Well I tried this last night and nut'in honey, hmmm.  From box #2 I tried 
>pinging
>my webpage (hosted elsewhere) and ping returned with a YPBIND error 
>something about
>domain not bound.  Ah well back to the drawing board.
>
>
>--
>Joseph S. Gardner
>Handi Krafts
>www.handi-krafts.com
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Linux is like a wigwam...
>No windows, no gates.
>Apache inside
>
>Registered linux user #1696600
>ICQ #63389227
>

Re: [expert] stupid IPMASQ question

[Joseph S. Gardner]

Civileme wrote:

>
> Box # 1 gateway device is eth1
>
> Box # 2 gateway is 192.168.100.1
>
> on box 1
>
> in /etc/rc.local at the end of the file
> ipchains -P forward DENY
> ipchains -A forward -i eth1 -j MASQ
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> Then either do the horrid reboot or type those commands in a
> terminal as root on box 1
>
> Now go surf on netscape from box 2 in relative safety.
>
> You can get firewall scripts that lock down box 1 from several
> sources--others on the list know where they are, but this will
> get you started.
>
> Civileme

Box #1 gateway is eth0   (set by DSL ISP)
Box #1 NIC to tub is eth1 (192.168.100.1)

Box #2 NIC to hub is eth1 (192.168.100.2)
Box #2 gateway is 192.168.100.1 (box #1's eth1)

Well I tried this last night and nut'in honey, hmmm.  From box #2 I tried pinging
my webpage (hosted elsewhere) and ping returned with a YPBIND error something about
domain not bound.  Ah well back to the drawing board.


--
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Handi Krafts
www.handi-krafts.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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No windows, no gates.
Apache inside

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ICQ #63389227

Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1

[Wolfgang Bornath]

On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 18:16 -0800, Civileme wrote:

> The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently
> a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard
> right the first time.

You nailed it down to the point!
Some yrs before the same people said "We don't support OS/2" and
got away with it.

wobo
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[expert] Aha152x Driver for install

[Brash, Matthew]

The install program won't find my Aha1520 SCSI adaptor even when I put in
the options (0x340,11,7,1).  Only when I copy the CD to my hard-drive and
use the HD.img file to boot up and THEN it finds my CD-Roms...  any
thoughts?

RE: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS]

A good GUI based FTP prog. is IglooFTP Pro.
Reminds me a lot of Cute FTP.

Brian D. Klar - CVE
WPAFB


-Original Message-
From: Eric Aksomitis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 9:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> What is a "good FTP client"? Does it have to be a WIMP-type program? I find
> ncftp to be pretty damn nice. But it doesn't use the mouse or have a fancy
> graphical layout.
> 
> Doesn't gmc do FTP?

Well, what I really look for is something with Tree-based file-system view (long 
filanes get to be a pain on text-based FTP), and a QUE functionality, wherby I can add 
a ton of files from anywhere to a QUE, then transfer them.  For small stuff I still 
and probably always will just use the text-based ftp program.  However, the industry 
(their are people out there who are GUI only that might want to use a little linux) 
still doesn't have a perfect GUI ftp client yet, although GFTP is 70% there, if not 
90% there, all it really needs is a QUE functionality like Cute-FTP, and maybe a MP3 
file search like Cute-FTP, and that would be 100% what the industry 
needs

.02 Given

Eric Aksomitis
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/re_answer.shtml

RE: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS]

There is a good FTP program out there for Linux. Igloo FTP Pro.
Check it out, you'll like it.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Aksomitis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:13 PM
To: L List
Subject: Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?


Pj wrote:
> Mandrake I want..
> 

1) Netscape to use my windows directory so I can read mail from either OS (when I 
contract in some Access Work, I can't pick my OS, and there's no good FTP client for 
Linux, like Cute-FTP, not to mention the win-modem thing)

2) On an install / upgrade, all I'd really want in an upgrade is a chance to choose 
amongst saving all the more common settings (users , home directory settings for root, 
apache settings, mysql settings etc..) everything else can be Wiped and re-installed, 
it's easier and generally less problem-prone, IMHO

3) A semi-Gui or full-Gui kernel re-compile script / program.

4**) More push from Mandrake to get win-modem drivers for their distro, even binaries.


Eric Aksomitis

http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/re_answer.shtml

Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[Eric Aksomitis]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> What is a "good FTP client"? Does it have to be a WIMP-type program? I find
> ncftp to be pretty damn nice. But it doesn't use the mouse or have a fancy
> graphical layout.
> 
> Doesn't gmc do FTP?

Well, what I really look for is something with Tree-based file-system view (long 
filanes get to be a pain on text-based FTP), and a QUE functionality, wherby I can add 
a ton of files from anywhere to a QUE, then transfer them.  For small stuff I still 
and probably always will just use the text-based ftp program.  However, the industry 
(their are people out there who are GUI only that might want to use a little linux) 
still doesn't have a perfect GUI ftp client yet, although GFTP is 70% there, if not 
90% there, all it really needs is a QUE functionality like Cute-FTP, and maybe a MP3 
file search like Cute-FTP, and that would be 100% what the industry 
needs

.02 Given

Eric Aksomitis
http://www.dlcwest.com/~jed/re_answer.shtml

Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1

[Dan Bélisle]

Hi !

My drive is a Quantum Fireball KX 13.6gig 7200Rpm.
My motherboard is  a Soyo 6BA +IV with the onboard HPT366 controller.

And i say again, he work very well with SUSE 6.4 !
what's wrong ?

Thanks again !!

Danny.


>From: Civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [expert] ATA/66 HPT366 with 7.1
>Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:16:59 -0800
>
>"Dan Bélisle" wrote:
> >
> > Hi !
> >
> > I have downloaded the brand new 7.1 and unfortunately like it 
>predecessor my
> > ATA/66 (HPT366) disk doesn't work !!
> >
> > At the IDE detection at the begining of the installation, the 
>installation
> > is stoped (stone) at this point.
> >
> > So, i have try too the SUSE 6.4 and he work very well !!
> >
> > Why is the problem ? Isn't my first e-mail on that.
> >
> > Thanks everyone !
> >
> > Danny.
> > 
> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
>Pentium code tightens timing requirements on the drives
>themselves and on the chipsets on the motherboards as well.  386
>code allows much greater variance from specifications.
>
>If your drive is Western Digital or your motherboard is one of
>several chipsets made to accommodate the WD drive and its weird
>timing and the fact that it blows off the CRC, then you have a
>problem with hardware and will be bound by it to distros who use
>386 code.  That is the difference--Mandrake is pushing the
>envelope in the direction of rather exact conformance to
>specifications on the part of the hardware, while compiling to
>maximize processor performance, and a lot of sloppy hardware has
>been built assuming the laxity of the 386 code which is used in
>the dominant desktop system.  Now those same folks are saying
>things like "we don't support linux" when they get tech calls.
>
>The "We don't support linux," answer is easy to give, apparently
>a lot easier than the redesign to build the drive or motherboard
>right the first time.
>
>Civileme
>


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Re: [expert] [Expert] How can I?

[laurent . duperval]

On  7 Jun, Eric Aksomitis wrote:
> 1) Netscape to use my windows directory so I can read mail from either OS (when I 
>contract in some Access Work, I can't pick my OS, and there's no good FTP client for 
>Linux, like Cute-FTP, not to mention the win-modem thing)
> 

What is a "good FTP client"? Does it have to be a WIMP-type program? I find
ncftp to be pretty damn nice. But it doesn't use the mouse or have a fancy
graphical layout.

Doesn't gmc do FTP?

> 3) A semi-Gui or full-Gui kernel re-compile script / program.
> 

make xconfig ; make install

L

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[expert] ANNOUNCE: New public forum (and second round of discussions)

[Denis HAVLIK]

Hi, folks

new forum
---

You all know the limitations of our present comunication medium (e-mail
list), right? Like delays, no scoring, no treads...

Well, we are trying to introduce a slashdot-based discussion forum, and
for now we will concentrate on "future of the distribution". 

http://www.linuxpole.com

second round of discussions
--

Unlike the question I asked you two weeks ago (just tell as everything you
can think of), now we have to concentrate ourselves to already existing
topics - I have already posted one (infamous "UPGRADE" question), other
will follow. 

By the way, a lot of your sugestions were found "good" and "simple
to implement" - there will be no big discussion on these. (I hope I will
be able to send you a summary of such topics next week.) 
Some other requests were found "too dificult", so we cannot do anything
about them now.

Howeven, some questions were very interesting, and caused big debates on
our internal lists, but we were unable to come to conclusion. These  
questions will be posted on  our new web-forum - maybe you can help us
find right answers.  

cu
Denis

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Re: [expert] Adaptec 2940U2W and 'Drake 7.1

[John J. LeMay Jr.]

** Reply to message from Gavin Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 07 Jun 2000
23:08:50 -0700

No, the drives are setup properly. One as SCSI 0 and one as 1. The SCSI BIOS
detects everything, including termination properly. The last drive on the chain
has term power enabled (boy are those new jumpers SMALL!) and the active
terminator is installed on the last phy connector on the chain (which happens to
be immediately following the drive)

> are the jumpers set right?
> maybe both drives are on the same scsi id.
> 
> 
> Gavin
> 
> on 6/7/00 7:02 PM, John J. LeMay Jr.  wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know if 7.1 has addressed the problem with the 2940U2W not being
> > able to properly detect my Seagate LVD drives connected to my 2940U2W? This
> > problem has kept my new PC acting as a doorstop for several weeks now while
> > I've
> > searched for an answer to this problem. I've tried installing 'Drake 6.1 and
> > 7.0, however I cannot get beyond the SCSI detection phase without getting
> > errors
> > like:
> > 
> > scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0
> > scsi host 0 ch 0 reset pid 0 timed out - trying harder
> > 
> > I end up in a loop at this point.
> > 
> > Help!
> > 
> > John LeMay Jr.
> > Senior Enterprise Consultant
> > NJMC, LLC.
> > 
> > Mandrake Linux 7.0 (2.2.14)  /  Polarbar Mailer 1.16c
> > JDK 1.1.8 IBM build l118-2515
> >



John LeMay Jr.
Senior Enterprise Consultant
NJMC, LLC.

Mandrake Linux 7.0 (2.2.14)  /  Polarbar Mailer 1.16c
JDK 1.1.8 IBM build l118-2515

[expert] 7.1 install problem: can't take sqrt of -0.355924

[Florian Gnägi]

Hi

I tried installing 7.1. However, after 'Format partitions' the
installations proces breaks.

On console 3 I get the following error message:

warning: Can't take sqrt of -0.355924 at /usr/bin/perl-install/pkgs.pm
line 186

befor this message I have some 'unknown package' and 'unknown entry'
messages.


I'm installing over network from a local mirror, tried it with ftp or nfs. 


I have a dual celeron-board, raid0 with two disks and reiserFS on top of
it, however, I don't think it has anything to do with the problem as I
also tried it with the old Linux native filesystem.


When I ignore the message and just click on the next star on the left side
i starts installing a very basic system. All other installing steps do
work well and the new system is booting, also with reiser, however, it is
really a very basic system and I wan't to have the 'everything' system,
not the 'basic' system...


I had no problem to set up Mandrake 7.0 on the same machine, raid and
linux ntive filesystem.


Can anybody help me? 



And yes, when I use the installer in text mode it crashes after the
selection of my mouse when it comes to the keyboard selection. It says
no memory left or somehing... 


Too bad that I wiped my old running system for a new 7.1 with reiser :-(


Any help is appreciated!

-florian

[expert] RpmDrake - loading remote directory fails.

[Warren Doney]

I have 7.0, have updated urpmi & RpmDrake to the versions that come with
7.1 + deps (rpm,rpmtools,popt - IIRC). Wget is installed. 
I am trying to get the packages at:
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linux/mandrake/7.1/Mandrake/RPMS/

Which is what I enter in "add location of packages-->HTTP"
For Location of hdlist if I leave it at:
../base/hdlist.cz2

I get (pasted from konsole):

[root@localhost /root]# rpmdrake
--21:22:12-- 
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au:80/pub/linux/mandrake/7.1/Mandrake/RPM
S/
   => `/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.http_1.cz2'
Connecting to mirror.aarnet.edu.au:80... connected!
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]

0K -> .. .. .. .. ..
   50K -> .. .. .. .. ..
  150K -> .. .
 
21:22:34 (8.99 KB/s) - `/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.http_1.cz2' saved [173982]
 
--21:22:34--  http://with:80/
   => `/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.http_1.cz2'
Connecting to with:80...
with: Host not found.
--21:22:34--  http://..:80/base/hdlist.cz2/
   => `/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.http_1.cz2'
Connecting to ..:80...
..: Host not found.
 
FINISHED --21:22:35--
Downloaded: 173,982 bytes in 1 files 


If I look at /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.http_1.cz2
it is a html file containing: 
"Index of /pub/linux/mandrake/7.1/Mandrake/RPMS"
& hyperlinks to them.

URL of /base/hdlist(s) is:
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linux/mandrake/7.1/Mandrake/base/

& in it there is:
hdlist  11-Mar-2000 16:08  13.8M  
hdlist.cz2  18-May-2000 03:06   3.4M  
hdlist2.cz2 18-May-2000 03:08   1.2M  
hdlist3.cz2 18-May-2000 03:08   382k  
hdlist4.cz2 18-May-2000 03:09   515k  
hdlists 18-May-2000 03:09 1k  

Can anyone tell me what I've got wrong ?

TIA

-Warren

[expert] Mandrake 7.1 Plus -- where to get it

[Benjamin Sher]

Dear friends:

I found the 2-CD Linux 7.1 at LinuxMart. I got there from the
www.mandrake.com page (Look for Purchase, CD on the left). The URL for
LinuxLand is

http://www.LLand.com/


The specific URL for the 2-CD 7.1 with full description is at:

http://www.LLand.com/products/specialsview.asp?ID=49

Of course, I can't say anything else until I get it, hopefully on Friday
(2-day standard delivery). You can even get it overnight if you are
willing to pay for it.

WARNING 1: Be sure you order the 2-CD 7 Plus (7+) and NOT the 1-CD 7.
WARNING 2: Note that the 7.1 Power Pack ($46) won't be available till
JULY (!), so don't order it unless you are willing to wait till then.
The PowerPack is always a few weeks behind the latest version just put
out. The present PowerPack is for 7.0, not 7.1!

Yours,

Benjamin

Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> Benjaminhow did you place your order?  Here's the results
> I got from a search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1':
> 
>  Sorry, no products were found in your search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'
> 
> Mandrake was totally left off of the list of 13 Penguin
> Power CD's when I chose to navigate to:
> 
>  Software->Apps and Utilities->Operating Systems->Linux CDs & Bundles
> 
> But an actual search for 'Linux Mandrake 7.0' turned up
> these 4 items:
> 
>  Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0
>  Deluxe Linux Mandrake Operating System 7.0
>  Linux Mandrake Operating System Complete 7.0
>  Linux-Mandrake Penguin Power CD 7.0
> 
> However, searches for 'Linux Mandrake' and 'Linux Mandrake 7'
> come up with a 'no match' just like my original search for
> 'Linux Mandrake 7.1'.
> 
> I don't see very much support any more at LinuxMall/LinuxMart
> for the Linux Mandrake distro.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Benjamin Sher wrote:
> >
> > Dear friends:
> >
> > My apologies for writing from Win98. I tried to install the new
> > Linux-Mandrake 7.1 last night and accidently wiped out my entire Linux
> > installation by resizing my partitions.
> >
> > Am waiting for my 2-CD set from LinuxMart.
> >
> > Benjamin
> >
> > --
> > Benjamin and Anna Sher
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sher's Russian Web
> > http://www.websher.net

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Re: [expert] New h/drive

[Mark Griebling]

Seagate man, Seagate!

Later,


At 07:38 AM 6/8/00 +0100, Ted Wager wrote:

Hi...
I am buying a new h/drive for my machine.It has a Maxtor in at the moment but
I need another drive...I know Ican read the h/ware howtos but they are not so
up to date..Any info on recommended drives or ones to steer clear of  other
than Western Digital would be welcome...

Regards Ted

 Ted Wager..Mandrake linux
   g3tpi.ampr.org  44.131.147.8

Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[Jean-Michel Dault]

Mandrake 7.1 has the rp-pppoe and pppoe-linuxconf packages, so it's easy
to configure. With some modems, you might want to set the timeout to 0 in
/etc/ppp/pppoe.conf, but with most providers it should work right out of
the box.

Tested with a Nortel modem with Sympatico (Canada) and an Alcatel modem
with France Telecom.

Jean-Michel Dault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, David M. Kufta wrote:

> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 21:25:54 -0400
> From: David M. Kufta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: linux-mandrake.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)
> 
> I have a client who would like to install an external dsl modem on his
> Linux system and seem to be having one devil of a time getting this
> thing to work. I s anyone on the list currently using adsl with an
> external modem under Linux-Mandrake, and might anyone have some
> information as to how to set this up? pppoe calls a script
> /usr/sbin/adsl-start which doesnot seemed to be installed and for the
> life of me I can seem to find it. Ideas anyone ?
> 
>   Dave
> 
> 
>   David M. Kufta
>   Konsult Ltd.
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Re: [expert] external dsl modem (Westel)

[Jean-Michel Dault]

On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Vincent Danen wrote:

> What kind of external DSL modem?  I'm using a 3COM Home Connect ADSL
> Ethernet modem...  plugs into my ethernet card and I don't use pppoe or
> anything funky like that.  My ISP gave me a gateway IP address and I use
> that, just as one would with a cable modem.  Maybe you're making it more
> difficult than it needs to be and he doesn't need to use pppoe?

Vincent, what ISP are you using? You're in Canada right? What kind of DSL
service do you have (download/upload)...

Just curious.

Jean-Michel Dault
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