[expert-it] Opzioni del kernel

2000-08-21 Thread Sebastiano Cordiano

Ho provato a compilare altri kernel per Mandrake ma non riesco ad attivare due
funzioni: il supermount e lo spegnimento del pc.
Il nuovo kernel mi dice che il supermount non e' supportato dal filesystem, ma
io non riesco a trovare nessuna voce nelle opzioni di compilazione
(menuconfig), che sia una prerogativa di Mandrake?
Sbirciando tra i moduli della versione ufficiale (2.2.15) in effetti c' e' un
modulo supermount.o ma come viene creato? Ne sapete qualcosa?
Inoltre con il nuovo kernel il pc non si spegne piu' da solo ma devo premere io
il pulsante, al contrario del kernel precompilato.
Qualche suggerimento? Io ho provato il 2.2.16 e il 2.4.0-test2.
Ciao


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Re: [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Allen Bolderoff


 It will imposed censorship on the
 list which most of us probably don't like, as we are interested in
 freedoms. And also, how fast is it to sign up for another acct on a
 free
 e-mail? That takes a matter of minutes, where tracking down the cause
 of
 the flames may take days of messages to find out.
 --

If the list was moderated, then only *RELEVANT* emails would get through to 
the list, and all this *CRAP* we have to put up with on a daily basis will no 
longer cause knowledgeable people to just not read the list.

it has nothing to do with losing an account, as all emails, whoever they come 
from will have to be checked prior to being allowed onto the list. This is not 
new, or even censorship. It is a reaction to all the juvenile, immature 
postings we get where small minded individuals, with no brains feel they need 
to spout off whenever they don't like the color of the installation routines, 
and prove their lack of brains.

I say moderate. this way only one person needs to put up with the crap.

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[expert] cdburning

2000-08-21 Thread Sheldon

Hi,

   Question. In alot of burning frontends they recognise
my scsi-3 burner but not my ide cdrom drive for the reader.
Any idea how I can configure the system so that it'll be 
recognised? I belive that most of them are getting the
device information from cdrecord -scanbus

Cheers,
Sheldon.


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Re: [expert] Kmail and threading...

2000-08-21 Thread Stephen Boulet

Yes, I've tried it out in kde2 beta 3. If you want to give that a try, you
might want to wait a couple of days, since the fourth beta might be available
by Tuesday.

-- Stephen

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, you wrote:
  Can anyone tell me, does Kmail do threading like Nutscrape Messynger?
  
 Not yet. I think that is planned for an upcoming version
 (AFTER KDE2 is released)
   John




Re: [expert] Memory above 1GB

2000-08-21 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 20-Aug-00 by Sarang Lakare:

 Is it that the default kernel dosn't support more than 1GB? what do I have
 to get it to recognize more than 1GB in that case?

Bingo!  You need to compile custom kernels to go above 1 GB.  There is
an option under Processor Type and Features to toggle 1 or 2 GB max
physical memory.

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out a sword I'd like to see you get up there with your Bic.





Re: [expert] Netscape Corrupting the mailrules file?

2000-08-21 Thread Marc Handelman

Netscape 4.74 appears to contain a bug in the mail filter configuration function.
I have experienced this, when an exception is thrown by the calling of the mail
filters dialog. The error specifically relates to an invalid parameter in the child
process when calling the dialog.

The only fix I have time for is to deinstall the rpm, and reinstall.


Pierre Fortin wrote:

 Alan Shoemaker wrote:
 
  Mark Weaver wrote:
  [snip]
   Might someone on here have any idea what could be causing Netscape to corrupt
   its mailrule file?
  [snip]
 
  MarkI'm using 4.74 and have not had any such problems with
  it.  But I did have problems with the message filters (I guess
  this is what you mean by a mailrule file) getting screwed up
  (I actually lost all of the rules completely) a few releases
  of Netscape back.  What seemed to cure it for me was this.
 
  I noticed that the corruption/loss seemed to occur when I was
  cutting (actually copying) info from messages and pasting this
  info into a filter (either into a new one or editing an old
  one).  So, I quit cutting (copying) and pasting when creating
  and maintaining filters and the problem stopped.  Hope this
  helps.
 
  Alan

 You can copy/paste if you remember to delete the whitespace that NS puts in
 front of the pasted text; this can include a newline character.  At worst, edit
 the mailrule file with your favorite text editor and look for a wrapped
 "condition=" line...  remove the linewrap  unnecessary whitespace and save it.
 No need to restart Netscape.

 HTH,
 Pierre

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 Last reboot reason:  Installed new BackUPS power supply.





Re: [expert] Memory above 1GB

2000-08-21 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 20-Aug-00 by Sarang Lakare:

 I shldn't say solved.. it  was there but i couldnt' see it.. when i did
 top, i saw 1.5GB on the machine.. but when i boot, the initial text screen
 shows only 958MB and so i thought it saw only that much.. Mandrake guys
 shld rectify this problem.. the initial screen dosn't show the right amount
 detected!

That number comes from the linux_logo program.  Please contact the
author of said program ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to see about a fix.

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Re: [expert] CL = Command Line (TM) (NT)

2000-08-21 Thread Andrew George

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Greg Stewart wrote:

  For the uninitiated, NT means No TeXT.
 
 I thought it meant "Nice Try"  :-)
 

"Nearly There" :)





Re: [expert] my thoughts on 7.1

2000-08-21 Thread Tony McGee


On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Alan N pushed some tiny letters in this order:
 Times are a bit different now, I have my own burner at home, and also a
 cable modem..  I needed to upgrade my HD, so I bought a new 20Gig and
 dloaded RH 7.1 beta..  After numerous attempts to get my Voodoo Banshee
 working right ( It did FINE in 6.2, might be the Xfree 4, I dunno,) I
 decided to dload Mdk 7.1..
 

I've also had troubles with my Banshee and XF4.0 straight off the 7.1 cd's. I
think I remember somebody reporting the situation with XF4.0.1 is improved but I
haven't been game to download and try it out yet. If it ain't broke don't fix
it as they say!

Tony




Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Jose Antonio Becerra Permuy

El dom, 20 ago 2000, escribiste:
 I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously considering
 the AMD chip . . . .

 Could anyone point me to references which show pros and cons of each with
 Linux, Windows, etc?

We have a cluster with Athlon @500 MHz and they are faster than PIII @550 
MHz running scientific computations with a lot of float point operations (for 
example, my evolutionary environment for obtaining robot controllers is 20% 
faster). Motherboard is Asus K7M and we have not any problems. The main issue 
with Athlons is the power supply (250W at least).
My brother has a gaming machine with an Athlon @700 MHz and a GeForce DDR on 
an Asus K7V. Games are fster!!! and linux runs very well too ;-)
Look at www.aceshardware.com and www.tomshardware.com, they have good 
benchmarks and they EXPLAIN the results.




RE: [expert] ipchains logging

2000-08-21 Thread Tony Smith

Hi Greg,

 Hey, I've just realised something...

 For a while after my firewall comes up, I get a few logged DENY
 packet, and
 an occasional portsentry attack alert, but after some time, the network
 seems to go very quite. I had checked my machine fromwork this afternoon,
 and nothing was recorded since last nite.

 So, I decided to force a response and I telnetted into my machine. This
 triggerred the firewall and it logged the DENY packets.

I tried this a while back, and my machine *didn't* log the DENY records.

 Now, my situtation may actually be nothing like yours... but I wonder if
 your area of the network quites down a bit (ie: stops pounding you if they
 no one can really see your machine)?

 Any thoughts? How did the new rpms works? Have you tried them?

So far, so good. I want to give it a few more days before I declare it
resolved, but I'm still getting the messages since I ungraded the sysklogd
package. I'll let you know towards the end of the week.

Thanks for the help,

Tony





Re: [expert] kmail option?

2000-08-21 Thread Tony McGee


On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, maxtor pushed some tiny letters in this order:
 To all:
 
 I have been using kmail, and I have to say that I am very pleased
 with all the features and the filtering.  The only thing: Is there a
 way to have kmail to default to netscape when you click on a url in a
 message?  Maybe a particular file that could be edited to change from
 kfm to netscape?  I know that I am probably just grasping at air with
 this, but if anyone has any suggestions please send them my way.
 
 Maxtor

Not yet, I've scoured the options and the config file for this also. But like
the threading support of a previous question the answer is "it's in the KMail
that comes with KDE2". KDE2 is due out within the next month they say. In the
meantime, check out this preview of what KMail has to offer:
http://devel-home.kde.org/~kmail/kmailreview/

Very 'Outlook'ish but without the nasty VB :)




[expert] sendmail netscape messenger?

2000-08-21 Thread Mark Weaver

I was wondering about something last night. Is it possible to get
Netscape Messenger to use Sendmail to send the mail instead of one's
ISP's mail server?

the reason I ask is because Sendmail is so much faster than contacting
my ISP's mail server.
-- 
Mark




RE: [expert] sendmail netscape messenger?

2000-08-21 Thread Joachim Holst (QCS)

Should be possible. Just enter the IP number of your machine instead
of your ISP's in the mail-server part.

/Jocke!

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 12:52 PM
 To: Expert Mandrake List
 Subject: [expert] sendmail  netscape messenger?
 
 
 I was wondering about something last night. Is it possible to get
 Netscape Messenger to use Sendmail to send the mail instead of one's
 ISP's mail server?
 
 the reason I ask is because Sendmail is so much faster than contacting
 my ISP's mail server.
 -- 
 Mark
 




RE: [expert] sendmail netscape messenger?

2000-08-21 Thread Tony Smith

 I was wondering about something last night. Is it possible to get
 Netscape Messenger to use Sendmail to send the mail instead of one's
 ISP's mail server?

 the reason I ask is because Sendmail is so much faster than contacting
 my ISP's mail server.

In your mail preferences, set the outgoing (SMTP) server to "localhost", but
leave the incoming server as it is.

Regards,

Tony





[expert] modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-00

2000-08-21 Thread BillK

Hi,
I get the following in /var/log/messages whenever ppd goes up or down
(using kppp on MD 7.1):

Aug 21 16:30:35 Ralph modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
binfmt-

Does anyone know what this module is, does or belong to so I can track
it down?

BillK




RE: [expert] sendmail netscape messenger?

2000-08-21 Thread Bruce E. Harris

Yes, this does work, that is what I am doing. 

I have a small in-home LAN with a router/firewall, and have bind set up. My
wife's machine used my machine's IP, now my host name (since DNS is working)
for all out going mail. For some odd reason, she could never connect to our ISP
directly using NS. So I set up sendmail and DNS to solve this problem. 

Best Regards, Bruce

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 Should be possible. Just enter the IP number of your machine instead
 of your ISP's in the mail-server part.
 
 /Jocke!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 12:52 PM
  To: Expert Mandrake List
  Subject: [expert] sendmail  netscape messenger?
  
  
  I was wondering about something last night. Is it possible to get
  Netscape Messenger to use Sendmail to send the mail instead of one's
  ISP's mail server?
  
  the reason I ask is because Sendmail is so much faster than contacting
  my ISP's mail server.
  -- 
  Mark
 
-- 







[expert] Netscape 4.74 don't let me write

2000-08-21 Thread Leopold Palomo

Hi list,

I have install a LM 7.1, I had to back to the Netscape from LM 7.0
because the new version has a singular problem.

I can run it, I can open nsmail, everything is ok, but when I try to
write a message, I can write the to: , the subject, but I cannot write
in the body.

There's a curious messages that say

"Cannot convert the string %d to a %f boolean", (or something similar.
Sorry for my poor precision)

I had this message with the LM 7.0, but everything worked normal.

Any ideas.

Leo




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Re: [expert] Fstab problem

2000-08-21 Thread Leopold Palomo

Dear Klar Brian

I'm sorry for write this email later, because I have read that you
installed all again.

Otherwise, I don't know if it could be helpful to you.
Sometime ago, I had a problem with the mtab file. I edited it. You
didn't realize that have make a great error, but, the machine will not
boot. As
Charles Curley said "You should never, ever, edit /etc/mtab. That is
entirely mountd's sandbox. Leave it alone.".
The little solution is to boot and in the lilo write:
init=/bin/bash

then the machine boots, and you have a shell. After, you have to edit
the fstab, but the / partition is mounted is ro, so you have to remount
the partition
mount -n -o remount, rw /

the important parameter is the -n. It does that the mount program
doesn't write the mtab file. You cannot mount or remount, because the
mount try to write the mtab file and it cannot do it.

Well, I hope that at least, it can help some day.

Leo


D Contr MSG/SWS ha escrit:

 I did something stupid to both fstab and mtab files.
 I rebooted and now my / partition (/dev/hdc8 won't
 mount, due to fstab says it is ext2, when it is actually
 reiserfs. The partition is mounted as read-only when I
 do a linux single boot from floppy.

 I know this is a dumb question for this forum, but then
 again look at what I did!
 How do I mount (remount) /dev/hdc8 so I can edit fstab
 and mtab to change back to reiserfs ?

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[expert] modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-00

2000-08-21 Thread BillK

Hi,
I get the following in /var/log/messages whenever ppd goes up or
down(using kppp on MD 7.1):

Aug 21 16:30:35 Ralph modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
binfmt-

Does anyone know what this module is, does or belong to so I can track
it down?

BillK




Re: [expert] kmail option?

2000-08-21 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 To all:
 
 I have been using kmail, and I have to say that I am very pleased
 with all the features and the filtering.  The only thing: Is there a
 way to have kmail to default to netscape when you click on a url in a
 message?  Maybe a particular file that could be edited to change from
 kfm to netscape?  I know that I am probably just grasping at air with
 this, but if anyone has any suggestions please send them my way.
 
Nope. That's a KDE thing, not a KMail thing. You'll need to
hack KDE to get it to default to Netscape.
John




Re: [expert] will sendmail ?

2000-08-21 Thread David Talbot

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 will sendmail work as a pop3 server or do we have to install some other pop3
 deamon ?
 also
 does anyone knows any mailing list of sendmail i can subscribe to i cant
 seem to find it on sendmail.org,sendmail.net .?

You need a pop3 daemon, my favorite is gnu-pop3d from www.gnu.org. Super easy
setup, incrediable performance.

-- 
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Re: [expert] MDK Install Security Levels

2000-08-21 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

Greg Stewart wrote:
 
 OK, next question:
 
 Why is it that if "DrakConf" is the configuration module for MDK, it's not
 installed by default? And, not only was drakConf not installed, its required
 KDE package was left out as well.
 
 After installing the bugger, I tried "medium" security and it did nothing to
 help my situation. I had to choose "low" before I could even descend into a
 presumably public directory, and then only when I had the directory name
 correct--auto complete wouldn't even touch it.
 
 I'm beginning to think MDK is a little sloppy in some areas.
 
 --Greg
 

Sounds like you did a Server / High Security install..  KDE shouldn't be
installed, it's assuming that the machine will not be used as a
desktop...
-- 
Joseph S Gardner

Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The box said,
"Requires Windows 3.x or better",
so I got Linux.

Registered Linux user #1696600




Re: [expert] CL = Command Line (TM) (NT)

2000-08-21 Thread Mike Tracy Holt


Actually, I thought it was "New Technology" - no jokes intended.

Mike

 I thought NT was for "Not Tested"
 
 On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, you wrote:
  For the uninitiated, NT means No TeXT.
  
 
 -- 
 Best Regards, Bruce
 
 





Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Joseph S. Gardner

Robert Fox wrote:
 
 I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously considering
 the AMD chip . . . .
 
 Could anyone point me to references which show pros and cons of each with
 Linux, Windows, etc?
 
 Thanks in advance. . . .
 
 Robert Fox

My vote goes to the Athlon.  I purchased a K7-750 and Abit's KA7 mobo
and I'll put it up against an Intel box any day.  Can't beat the price
either $200 for the chip and $135 for the mobo.

Runs very well with MDK 7.1


-- 
Joseph S Gardner

Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The box said,
"Requires Windows 3.x or better",
so I got Linux.

Registered Linux user #1696600




[expert] modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-0

2000-08-21 Thread BillK

Hi,
I get the following in /var/log/messages whenever ppd goes up or
down(using kppp on MD 7.1):

Aug 21 16:30:35 Ralph modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
binfmt-

Does anyone know what this module is, does or belong to so I can track
it down?

BillK




Re: [expert] CL = Command Line (TM) (NT)

2000-08-21 Thread Tom Massey

Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:
 
 Actually, I thought it was "New Technology" - no jokes intended.

Yeah, that's what MS say it means. And it was that, in that they got rid
of the old DOS stuff, and NT and its children is certainly a much better
OS than 9x and its - funny how much of the NT design seems to borrow
ideas from Unix though... Still have to say Nice Try, but No Thanks. :-)




Re: [expert] kmail option?

2000-08-21 Thread Sarang Lakare

 
 Very 'Outlook'ish but without the nasty VB :)

its not outlook-ish.. its eudora-ish and thats what i love :)




Re: [expert] kmail option?

2000-08-21 Thread Tony McGee

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Sarang Lakare pushed some tiny letters in this order:
  
  Very 'Outlook'ish but without the nasty VB :)
 
 its not outlook-ish.. its eudora-ish and thats what i love :)

'Outlook Express'-ish rather.
Whatever it's compared to it looks very spiffy.

Tony




Re: [expert] telnet/ssh problems

2000-08-21 Thread Stephen Bosch

Hello...

 There is an ftp line in /etc/inetd.conf:

 ftp stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd  in.ftpd -l -a

 Any other config files I should check?

You'd probably have to explicitly install it, but it really looks like inetd
is working properly, so there's no need to.

I'd say this line in the log is telling us something...

 Aug 20 22:29:55 paarestad inetd[6513]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in
 use

This *kinda* looks like inetd is trying to broker sshd connections, but
something is already hogging the port...

What version of sshd are you using? Now that we have addressed the
/etc/hosts.deny thing, what happens when you comment out the ssh line in
/etc/inetd.conf and restart inetd?

-Stephen-






RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread lselinger








Eric Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/21/2000 08:29:11 AM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
 To:  "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 cc:  (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) 
  
  
  
 Subject: RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and  
  Linux?  
  









I think They actually got the 1Ghz working stable at 850Mhz  =o\
If AMD can actually get a socket style chip back into production I think
the race might be over and the decision to chose one processor over another
will be a lot less questionable. I am running a 750 Athlon right now and it
litterally blew me away.

My 2 Cents

Lonny Selinger

And AMD will always have the edge. Considering everything out of Intel now
days is vaporware. They can not even get their 1Ghz to run stable w/ a
custom chipset and mainboard.

-Original Message-
From: simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 4:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?


until the pentium IV comes out, athlon processors have the edge.



- Original Message -
From: "Robert Fox" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 06:12
Subject: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?


 I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously
considering
 the AMD chip . . . .

 Could anyone point me to references which show pros and cons of each with
 Linux, Windows, etc?

 Thanks in advance. . . .

 Robert Fox
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Re: [expert] $30 and 2 hours later, NO C++ includes !! (mdk 7.1)

2000-08-21 Thread Charles Curley

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 05:31:42PM -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 At 08:58 08/20/2000 -0400, you wrote:
 /snip/
 
 But then again...I can't see or think straight when I'm REALLY frustrated
 and upset either, although the last ones I'm going to yell at are the ones
 that are giving me FREE tech support!
 
 -- 
 Mark
 /snip/
 On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote:
 
  Thanks for wasting the two hours I had today to do some programming!
 
  
 I, too, understand Mallard's frustration.  I don't think he was yelling
 at anyone on the list, except those who program for Mandrake.  He just
 wanted to let everyone else in on what he finds to be problems.  Of 
 course, not everyone else may have these particular problems, which has
 made several contributors to this outstanding list flame him.  Flames
 of individuals don't help us, even his flames, altho I understand why.
 Let us try and keep a calmer outlook.  Probably he does not know (as I
 do not, BTW,) how to get a message directly to the people who need to
 hear it.  And know that it got there!  (And neither does he know that
 someone from the Mandrake command read his note anyway!  But it is 
 probable that someone there has.)

I understand Mallard's frustration. What is not acceptable is his whining
and blaming. Also not acceptable is his arguing with people who offer him
something. He comes across as a snot-nosed brat who needs some maturity
more than he needs a working computer.

If Mallard will take exactly the same complaints and bundle them up
couteously and respectfully and in a helpful manner, and learn from the
response he gets, he will do much better and might even get his problem
solved.



 Peace, brothers and sisters.  In some places (not on Long Island) it has
 been a hot summer.

Amen, brother, on both counts. This is what it has been like in my
neightborhood lately:

http://www.katesbasin.com/

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Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread James Long

PIV - 1.5 GHz + on a 400Mhz bus if the rumours are to be believed

If they get this to run stable w/o massive cooling then it might blitz the
quarterback of AMD...



- Original Message -
From: Eric Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?


 And AMD will always have the edge. Considering everything out of Intel now
 days is vaporware. They can not even get their 1Ghz to run stable w/ a
 custom chipset and mainboard.

 -Original Message-
 From: simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 4:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?


 until the pentium IV comes out, athlon processors have the edge.



 - Original Message -
 From: "Robert Fox" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 06:12
 Subject: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?


  I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously
considering
  the AMD chip . . . .
 
  Could anyone point me to references which show pros and cons of each
with
  Linux, Windows, etc?
 
  Thanks in advance. . . .
 
  Robert Fox
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Re: [expert] Linux Laptop

2000-08-21 Thread lselinger



Just out of curiosity have you contacted IBM at all?  They support Linux on
thier laptops I'm juts not sure to what extent or if its only for specific
models.  Currently I am running Mandrake 7.1 on a Compaq Armada and it was
less than fun getting it installed as well but eventually I got it working
properly.  There is a ton more support than there used to be (about 3 years
ago) for laptops . Linux was never really meant to be a laptop O/S but
its gotten to a point where once you do get it working, it's solid as a
rock.  Another thing to check would be the site for your distribution to
see what it shows for supported hardware etc and maybe look into grabbing a
different distribution.  Good Luck!!

Lonny Selinger
Systems Adminstration Associate
EDS Canada






[expert] munpack

2000-08-21 Thread Steve Young

i'm looking for a program like munpack, but one that will handle larger
files anyone know of such a program?





Re: [expert] Painless disaster recovery. . .

2000-08-21 Thread Cecil Watson

CRU you can get it at http://www.estinc.com/cru2/CRU2.html.  If you drive
support one button disaster recovery, CRU is create a tape to bring you
system back up.  You can also create a boot and a root disk and restore off
of a tape!
- Original Message -
From: "Norvell Spearman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 3:30 AM
Subject: [expert] Painless disaster recovery. . .


 I posted this maybe a week or two and got no responses; I'm trying again
 now in case someone new on the list has some insights. . .

 I'm running Linux Mandrake 7.1 and have an HP 8GB internal IDE tape
 drive.  I use the ide-scsi module for tape access (/dev/hdd -
 /dev/st0), which seems to work great.

 My questions:

 1) How do I make devices on a bootfloppy so ide-scsi will work from said
 bootfloppy?  Using DrakFloppy, I created a disk and told it to pre-load
 ide-scsi, but the only devices on the floppy are /dev/hdb6 and /dev/fd0.

 2) I'm shooting for a ``painless'' recovery plan, so what is the best
 way to backup data (using only GNU tools that come with a common Linux
 distribution)?  I'm thinking something like
 tar cvzpf /dev/st0 --exclude /proc /
 after unmounting the cdrom, floppy, and windoze
 partition.

 3) Which programs do I need on the boot floppy?  fdisk, mke2fs, mount,
 umount, tar, gzip sound like good choices, but what else do I need?

 4) Are these the steps to recovery I need to follow, or have I left out
 something?
 a) boot to floppy
 b) create partitions with fdisk
 c) recreate file systems with mke2fs
 d) mount new file systems (e.g., /mnt/, /mnt/home, /mnt/tmp, etc.)
 e) restore data from tape:  cd /mnt; tar xzvpf /dev/st0

 5) lilo and grub:  If I want to use lilo, all I have to do next is run
 `lilo /mnt/etc/lilo.conf' right?  If I'm using grub, though, how do I
 update the mbr?

 Thanks for any help with these questions.  If all this is in a HOWTO
 which I missed, I apologize for the superfluous posting. . .

 ---Norvell Spearman
 ---
 ``Trouble is my business.''
   ---Philip Marlowe






Re: [expert] Prove my point .

2000-08-21 Thread Cecil Watson

How about this compare the connection speed of the machines behind the
computer sharing the connection.  I did this several months back.  Same
machine, dual boot 98 and Mandrake 6.1.  With Linux sharing the connection
the machine behind it were able to surf almost 2.5 times faster than with 98
sharing the connection!
- Original Message -
From: "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Prove my point .


 Install a secure Linux server, set ipchains rules nice and tight, Install
a
 packet filter, and a port scanner, and connect directly to the internet.

 Now do the same with a Window NT or Windows 2K machine (we won't even go
the
 Win98 route), and hook *that* directly to the internet.

 Call some one you know who like to hack in their free time, and see how
long
 it takes them to hack into each machine.

 Then, with Windows losing that battle, compare the money you spent to set
 each one up!

 --Greg


  Hello there
 
  Well i am totally surrounded with Microsoft worshipers @ my job everyone
  just do NT here .
  But i want to prove them wrong with linux is there any way to compete
both
 ?
  Money is not an issue cause when you live in pakistan heaven for pirated
 CDs
  .
  i want to prove my point here .
 
  thanks
  Faisal
 
 




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Re: [expert] $30 and 2 hours later, NO C++ includes !! (mdk 7.1)

2000-08-21 Thread Muzza

From where I sit, I see a few different outcomes of this thread.

1.  Although the guys/gals at MandrakeSoft have tried to produce a distribution
that will work successfully with most combinations of hardware, they have been
unable to get everybody's systems perfect first time around. Hence we have a
few complaints reported to this list. Perhaps the original author could collect
the source code together that he requires and put it all together in his own
distribution. I for one would happily buy it as it would be perfect in every
way.

2. Since he has purchased the distribution from MandrakeSoft he could use the
support facility he also purchased to have their experts assist him with his
troubles

3. He could continue to rant and rave to all and sundry and receive little or
no help from either MandrakeSoft or this list.

4. He could drop the Mandrake disribution and go elsewhere with any or all of
the following:- Linux, BeOS, FreeBSD or even M$. As a consumer that is his
right.

What ever the outcome, my 'delete' key has been getting quite a workout this
past week or so.
All the best to the rest,
Muzza.





Re: [expert] Prove my point .

2000-08-21 Thread Sarang Lakare

Run a computationaly expensive code that needs around 1.5 Gb to work.. we
have found that 

- using the exact same code (compiles both in gcc and VC++)
- on the same machine
- on the same input data

windows used 2.0 Gb and crashed (the m/c has 1.5 Gb + .5 Gb swap file) but
Linux was running away to glory with mem usage of just 1.1 Gb.. and it
finished our entire test with max mem usage of 1.7 Gb!!

-sarang




Re: [expert] Prove my point .

2000-08-21 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Prove my point .


 How about this compare the connection speed of the machines behind the
 computer sharing the connection.  I did this several months back.  Same
 machine, dual boot 98 and Mandrake 6.1.  With Linux sharing the connection
 the machine behind it were able to surf almost 2.5 times faster than with
98
 sharing the connection!

My experience also, even with every known tweak to Windows. Linux just has
better networking.

Hoyt






[expert] Good Laptop/Notebook for ML 7.1? (fwd)

2000-08-21 Thread Denis Havlik

(http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/myarticle.php3?sid=2821065122)

I recently received the following question

I'm thinking of buying a notebook, and installing LM on it. Im in Singapore, and have 
problem to found out info about hardware compatibility. 

Could you suggest me some brand/model which will work withouth problems? 


Well, unfortunately we still do not have a notebook-compatibility DB, but maybe we 
could set a preliminary one here on "FAQ" section of mandrakeforum, until we have a 
"real" notebook-compatibility DB available. 


If you have installed LM 7.1 on a notebook, please answer to this story in a following 
way:
 
 Put notebook-s model/name in the subject line
 add a note (0 to 5) in brackets right after the notebook name.
 Give a description of problems encountered during instalation (if any), and 
workarounds you used to get these problems solved


NOTES:

5 Perfect install, no problems, everything works
4 Smooth instalation, but some hardware not configured automatically, or
needs a special driver (for instance, one has to run XFdrake after install to get X 
running, or HardDrake to get the sound going)
3 Smooth install, but some hardware not supported at all under Linux
(modem, soundcard)
2 Bad failures: Unsupported graphic card, PCMCIA not working and such...
1 Hands off this model: it is a complete catastrophy under linux!
 






[expert] JDK 4 Mandrake?

2000-08-21 Thread Andreas Müller

Hi all,

I have Mandrake 7 installed. I could not find the Java rpms. So do they exist
for Mandrake? If not, where to get them from and what do I need in order to run
Java Apps. e.g. Java ICQ?


Thanx in advance

Andreas




Re: [expert] Prove my point .

2000-08-21 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 12:52:31PM -0400, Sarang Lakare wrote:
 Run a computationaly expensive code that needs around 1.5 Gb to work.. we
 have found that 
 
 - using the exact same code (compiles both in gcc and VC++)
 - on the same machine
 - on the same input data
 
 windows used 2.0 Gb and crashed (the m/c has 1.5 Gb + .5 Gb swap file) but
 Linux was running away to glory with mem usage of just 1.1 Gb.. and it
 finished our entire test with max mem usage of 1.7 Gb!!

Interesting, considering that neither NT nor W9x allow a process access to
a full 2 GB in user space. The precise details are in the SDK, but both
reserve a considerable chunk of memory for Mess-DOS compatibility, and then
more for OS cruft.

If you were running on NT, your swap file was set up incorrectly. You have
to have more swap space on disk than physical memory to get any advantage
for program data. Executables are swapped in and out from the executable
file, though. So to have enough swap space to support 2 GB of virtual
memory, you need at least a 2 GB swap file. Since neither NT nor W2K
support FAT32, that means you have to have your swap file on an NTFS
partition, which slows swapping a tad.

Also, if you used standard malloc, etc. for portability, you have a very
high memory overhead program. VC++ malloc is very wasteful of memory. I
would use other W32 specific virtual memory calls, and #def them out of
the Linux compile.

As for doing that sort of memory intense computation on W9x, forget it.

Have you tried compiling the code with the cygwin tools? Just curious.

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Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Stephen F. Bosch

James Long wrote:

 PIV - 1.5 GHz + on a 400Mhz bus if the rumours are to be believed

That definitely sounds like vapourware to me. Intel hasn't had anything
significant to show for 18 months, so they are resorting to the same tactics
they once accused their competitors of employing.

It's nice to see the shoe on the other foot for a change.

-Stephen-

PS: Just so you know - AMD's dramatic turnaround began when they poached two of
Intel's top engineers =) - goes to show it's all in the people...





Re: [expert] JDK 4 Mandrake?

2000-08-21 Thread Volker Schlecht


 I have Mandrake 7 installed. I could not find the Java rpms. So do they exist
 for Mandrake? If not, where to get them from and what do I need in order to run
 Java Apps. e.g. Java ICQ?

On one of the non-free-software CDs there's the IBM JDK 1.1.8 (and I think
a JRE as well), however to run most recent apps you will need a runtime
environment that supports Java2, that is a version = 1.2.2. You can get
one either at http://java.sun.com or http://www.blackdown.org, and IBM also
has one for free download, but I don't remember the exact URL right now.

If you really, really don't want to download one yourself, you can of course
try and cheat a bit - many recent Java apps are plain old Java which makes
use of the Swing classes, which are distributed with NetBeans, which in
turn is distributed with Mandrake Power Pack, but trust me, downloading
a new version is faster even with a 56k connection like mine ...

I'm using the RPM of the JDK 1.2.2 from Sun here, and that works for sure,
however I hear very good things about the performance of IBMs JDK 1.3,
so you might consider that as well.

However I wouldn't use Java ICQ unless somebody threatens me with
physical violence :) GnomeICU works a treat, as does LICQ, and
with some limitations (still beta, afaik) kxicq.

cya,
Volker




Re: [expert] kvirc Mandrake?

2000-08-21 Thread Volker Schlecht


Hi,


 I get some errors, but I have no idea what I'm missing or what to do to make it
 work, if someone could help plz. It's kvirc 2.0.0.
 
 [am@localhost am]$ kvirc
 kvirc: Symbol `__vt_6QFrame' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
 kvirc: Symbol `__vt_6QFrame.12QPaintDevice' has different size in shared object, 
consider re-linking
 kvirc: Symbol `__vt_6QEvent' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
 kvirc: Symbol `__vt_5QDate' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
 KviHelpQMLClasses::Global style sheet : constructor
 Speicherzugriffsfehler

Are you sure you have a recent version of qt2.1 installed ? if not, do so 
if yes, and in case you have downloaded a binary rpm, try building it yourself,
if all of that fails, check if it uses the right version of qt (i.e. _not_
1.44) for the build, and if it still doesn't work :

KVirc 1.0.0 works with an out-of-the-box Mandrake 7.0 and offers pretty much
all of everything one needs to IRC without getting on other people's nerves :)

cya,
Volker




[expert] Fetchmailconf errors

2000-08-21 Thread Jesper Holmberg

Hi all!

Here's a problem I've had since I installed 7.1: I can't run
fetchmailconf!

This is what it looks like when I try to run it:

/home/jesper%fetchmailconf
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/usr/bin/fetchmailconf", line 1819, in ?
hostname = socket.gethostbyaddr(socket.gethostname())[0]
socket.error: host not found

/home/jesper%fetchmailconf -v
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/usr/bin/fetchmailconf", line 1810, in ?
(options, arguments) = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:], "df:")
  File "/usr/lib/python1.5/getopt.py", line 60, in getopt
opts, args = do_shorts(opts, args[0][1:], shortopts, args[1:])
  File "/usr/lib/python1.5/getopt.py", line 102, in do_shorts
if short_has_arg(opt, shortopts):
  File "/usr/lib/python1.5/getopt.py", line 117, in short_has_arg
raise error, 'option -%s not recognized' % opt
getopt.error: option -v not recognized


I've tried to reinstall the rpm, but with no luck. As far as I can
see, I have all the rpms on which fetchmailconf might be dependent.

Any suggestions?

Jesper


-- 
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Re: [expert] CL = Command Line (TM) (NT)

2000-08-21 Thread Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root

Greg Stewart wrote:
 
  For the uninitiated, NT means No TeXT.
 
 I thought it meant "Nice Try"  :-)

Sorry guys, you're both wrong.  NT stands for Not Tested ;-D

Or was it Never Trusted?

Regards,
Ozz.




Re: [expert] Linux Laptop

2000-08-21 Thread Don

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 Just out of curiosity have you contacted IBM at all?  They support Linux on
 thier laptops I'm juts not sure to what extent or if its only for specific
 models.  Currently I am running Mandrake 7.1 on a Compaq Armada and it was
 less than fun getting it installed as well but eventually I got it working
 properly.  There is a ton more support than there used to be (about 3 years
 ago) for laptops . Linux was never really meant to be a laptop O/S but
 its gotten to a point where once you do get it working, it's solid as a
 rock.  Another thing to check would be the site for your distribution to
 see what it shows for supported hardware etc and maybe look into grabbing a
 different distribution.  Good Luck!!
 
 Lonny Selinger
 Systems Adminstration Associate
 EDS Canada

I have had a great deal of success running Mandrake 7.1 on my thinkpad 2611 450.
Originally I tried Slackware, and then Mandrake 7.0-2, but neither one would
work with my sound card (YamahaOPL3SA2)  However LM7.1 loaded great, 30 
Minutes, and when I ran sndconfig at the command prompt, it loaded the correct
drivers.  

Don 
  -- 
73 de KK6WJ




Re: [expert] JDK 4 Mandrake?

2000-08-21 Thread Eric MC.D

JDK 1.3 by 'Sun'
Or IBMJava-2-13
Eric MC 

"Andreas Müller" wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have Mandrake 7 installed. I could not find the Java rpms. So do they exist
 for Mandrake? If not, where to get them from and what do I need in order to run
 Java Apps. e.g. Java ICQ?
 
 Thanx in advance
 
 Andreas





Re [expert] strange K mail oddity

2000-08-21 Thread Mallard


 
 Vic wrote:
 
  Or did I press the wrong button???
 
  I noticed that sometimes when I click reply on K mail
  (or at least I think I clicked it)
  it replies directly to the person's e mail
  instead of the list like if they ask a question and
  I want to reply to the list so others can benefit.
 
  Hm, did I click the wrong button?
 

You may have been replying to a direct e-mail, and not one from the list
(hee,hee on you, someone pressed the reply all button on your message!)
The "Reply-To:" should be set to the list and kmail picks that up OK
unless you have a glitch.




Re [expert] make command

2000-08-21 Thread Mallard


 Submitted 17-Aug-00 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I can't find the 'make' command on Mandrake 7.0

You should go back and install as "developer" I think you can do it
after the fact, but since I got 7.1 I have to wonder. Watch out, don't
get 7.1 they don't include the standard C++ header files for make like
they did in 7.0, and you are going to play hell getting the old ones to
work. I would wait a year for 7.8 to come out till I buy Mandrake again.
I am returning my 7.1 for refund.




[expert] High memory in linux

2000-08-21 Thread Sarang Lakare

Hi guys,

I have a few questions. I have a 1.5GB RAM and 2 GB swap.. will linux
access the "whole" memory using the default Mandrake-7.1-smp kernel? I have
succeeded in running a app that takes around 1.8GB of memory.. but I am not
sure what will happen if it takes more. Any Idea? Can anyone point me to
info on this?

-sarang




Re [expert] Kernel 'upgrade' to 2.2.16 with reiserfs. I rebootedbefore completing the upgrade. OOPS!

2000-08-21 Thread Mallard

Caleb Crome wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just upgraded my Mandrake 7.1 installation to the 2.2.16
 kernel, however
 silly me, I figured, "it'll just work," so I didn't create a backup
 configuration in my lilo.  Now I can't reboot because the installed
 kernel
 won't mount the reiserfs.
 
 (Yes, I know that I should have following the upgrade directions, but
 I
 didn't realize that until too late)
 
 I can't seem to mount the drive from a boot floppy.  To make matters
 worse,
 the system's on a laptop, so I can't plug the drive into my desktop to
 modify it there.
 
 Any ideas how to fix it?
 

Yea, trash .16 it sucks, caused some lost sectors in my system. Damn
mandrake for releasing .16 like it's stable or something. Wait till you
see a real stable version hit.

Your old kernel should still be there, look for it. If you have to,
remove the drive and connect it via a $10 adaptor to your IDE desktop
system. Laptops are easy to take drives out of (most of the time).




[expert] Linux on LapTop

2000-08-21 Thread Don

 have had a great deal of success running Mandrake 7.1 on my thinkpad 2611450.
Originally I tried Slackware, and then Mandrake 7.0-2, but neither one would
work with my sound card (YamahaOPL3SA2)  However LM7.1 loaded great, 30 
Minutes, and when I ran sndconfig at the command prompt, it loaded the
correct
drivers.  

Don 

-- 
73 de KK6WJ




Re Re Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! HowdoIsetthedefault editor soI can TRASH IT?

2000-08-21 Thread Mallard

"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote:
 
 How do I filter out Mallard's hot wind using qmail?
 

Go to your options menu and set it to move messages with "Mallard" in
them to another mail directory. That should do it.

If everyone ignores the GEEKYNESS of Linux, maybe LINUX WILL GO AWAY!




Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Mallard

Allen Bolderoff wrote:

 I say moderate. this way only one person needs to put up with the
 crap.

Yea, let's get a mandrake kiss ass corporate employee to censor out
stuff so you won't find out how crappy this 7.1 release really is.

That way the stock price will dictate what you can and can't post to the
list.

Good move. So I was pissed when I wrote my little rant, have you ever
thrown your keyboard and mouse across the room? Yes, I have a bad
attitude towards lame geeky user interfaces, but that's just me.

I think they need to hear loud and clear that when they put out releases
or call things "stable" that arn't, they will cause people great
frustration, including damage to anything close by :)

I don't want to cause this list to be censored, please don't even
consider it. Just take the responsibility of setting your filtering on
your mailer, or even better, write a nasty message to your mailer
developer and ask why they don't have a way to simply "right click" on a
message and say "block this thread of messages" so you don't have to
miss out on all my messages, sometimes I help people (really I do).

This reminds me of when people ask the government to be mommy and censor
the net for them. (there goes that nasty attitude again, I better shut
up)




Re: [expert] MDK Install Security Levels

2000-08-21 Thread Greg Stewart

Well, geepers! Why couldn't they have warned me? :-)

--Greg


 Sounds like you did a Server / High Security install..  KDE shouldn't be
 installed, it's assuming that the machine will not be used as a
 desktop...
 --
 Joseph S Gardner




 Greg Stewart wrote:
 
  OK, next question:
 
  Why is it that if "DrakConf" is the configuration module for MDK, it's
not
  installed by default? And, not only was drakConf not installed, its
required
  KDE package was left out as well.
 
  After installing the bugger, I tried "medium" security and it did
nothing to
  help my situation. I had to choose "low" before I could even descend
into a
  presumably public directory, and then only when I had the directory name
  correct--auto complete wouldn't even touch it.
 
  I'm beginning to think MDK is a little sloppy in some areas.
 
  --Greg
 



 
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Re: [expert] CL = Command Line (TM) (NT)

2000-08-21 Thread Cokey de Percin

"Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root" wrote:
 
 Greg Stewart wrote:
 
   For the uninitiated, NT means No TeXT.
 
  I thought it meant "Nice Try"  :-)
 
 Sorry guys, you're both wrong.  NT stands for Not Tested ;-D
 
 Or was it Never Trusted?
 
 Regards,
 Ozz.

Wrong! It means Nauseating Trash although some misinformed people
seem to think it means Network Toy.

Cokey

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Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

I will be out of the office from August 22  through August. 27.  I will have limited 
opportunity to respond to email until then.

Thank you.




Re: Re Re Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL!HowdoIsetthedefault editor soI can TRASH IT?

2000-08-21 Thread Sheldon

Mallard wrote:
 
 "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote:
 
  How do I filter out Mallard's hot wind using qmail?
 
 
 Go to your options menu and set it to move messages with "Mallard" in
 them to another mail directory. That should do it.

yup - under netscape edit-message filters-new- ... you get the idea.

 If everyone ignores the GEEKYNESS of Linux, maybe LINUX WILL GO AWAY!

not bloody likely.

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Re: [expert] MDK Install Security Levels

2000-08-21 Thread Stephen F. Bosch


I'm a little surprised by all the trouble people have been having with 7.0 and
7.1.

I'm still using 6.1 - when I need a new feature, I just grab the packages - that
has worked very well. 6.1 has been stable on all the machines I've installed it
on.

-Stephen-

Greg Stewart wrote:

 Well, geepers! Why couldn't they have warned me? :-)

 --Greg

  Sounds like you did a Server / High Security install..  KDE shouldn't be
  installed, it's assuming that the machine will not be used as a
  desktop...
  --
  Joseph S Gardner
 

  Greg Stewart wrote:
  
   OK, next question:
  
   Why is it that if "DrakConf" is the configuration module for MDK, it's
 not
   installed by default? And, not only was drakConf not installed, its
 required
   KDE package was left out as well.
  
   After installing the bugger, I tried "medium" security and it did
 nothing to
   help my situation. I had to choose "low" before I could even descend
 into a
   presumably public directory, and then only when I had the directory name
   correct--auto complete wouldn't even touch it.
  
   I'm beginning to think MDK is a little sloppy in some areas.
  
   --Greg
  
 
 


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Re: Re Re Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! HowdoIsetthedefault editor soI can TRASH IT?

2000-08-21 Thread Greg Stewart

Man, Mallard! Why do you even stop by?

--Greg


 "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote:
  
  How do I filter out Mallard's hot wind using qmail?
  
 
 Go to your options menu and set it to move messages with "Mallard" in
 them to another mail directory. That should do it.
 
 If everyone ignores the GEEKYNESS of Linux, maybe LINUX WILL GO AWAY!
 

 
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Re: [expert] MDK Install Security Levels

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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Re: Re Re Re [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! HowdoIsetthedefault editor soI can TRASH IT?

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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Re: [expert] modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-00

2000-08-21 Thread BillK

Tony McGee wrote:
Thanks Tony, I have found a binfmt-aout, misc and java in the modules/fs
directories.  Do you have any more info or pointers to info that may
help me understand what these modules do and which I actually need?

BillK

 
 I'm pretty sure this error message means that the kernel can't understand a
 type of executable that needs to be run. A fix suggested on the
 kernel mailing list required an addition of the line 'alias binfmt-
 binfmt_aout' to your /etc/modules.conf file.
 
 Tony





Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Mage Grimau

Mallard wrote:
 
 Allen Bolderoff wrote:
 
  I say moderate. this way only one person needs to put up with the
  crap.
 
 Yea, let's get a mandrake kiss ass corporate employee to censor out
 stuff so you won't find out how crappy this 7.1 release really is.
 
Worked fine for me, even though I'm new to linux. Works great. Haven't
had any crashes except Netscape (which is to be expected, considering
the source).

 That way the stock price will dictate what you can and can't post to the
 list.

The request for censorship had nothing to do with positive/negative
comments. Only abusive, ill-informed, childish tantrums.

 
 Good move. So I was pissed when I wrote my little rant, have you ever
 thrown your keyboard and mouse across the room? 

No. I stopped throwing temper tantrums when I was 4.

Yes, I have a bad
 attitude towards lame geeky user interfaces, but that's just me.

So go back to Windows. Those of us with a clue LIKE having control over
our computers.
 
 I think they need to hear loud and clear that when they put out releases
 or call things "stable" that arn't, they will cause people great
 frustration, including damage to anything close by :)

7.1 is stable for people who install it correctly.

 
 I don't want to cause this list to be censored, please don't even
 consider it. Just take the responsibility of setting your filtering on
 your mailer, or even better, write a nasty message to your mailer
 developer and ask why they don't have a way to simply "right click" on a
 message and say "block this thread of messages" so you don't have to
 miss out on all my messages, sometimes I help people (really I do).

By screaming at them and whining that they didn't do things your way?

 
 This reminds me of when people ask the government to be mommy and censor
 the net for them. 

First time I agree with you on anything.

(there goes that nasty attitude again, I better shut
 up)

Second time.

-- 
Mage Grimau
..
So you can spend the morning lying to your father quite amazed
about the Strange Unwashed and Happily Slightly Dazed.
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[expert] kvirc Mandrake?

2000-08-21 Thread Andreas Müller

Hallo all,

does anybody have kvirc working on a Mandrake distribution?
I suppose that I have all the necessary rpms, but unfortunatly kvirc just
crashes.
I get some errors, but I have no idea what I'm missing or what to do to make it
work, if someone could help plz. It's kvirc 2.0.0.

[am@localhost am]$ kvirc
kvirc: Symbol `__vt_6QFrame' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
kvirc: Symbol `__vt_6QFrame.12QPaintDevice' has different size in shared object, 
consider re-linking
kvirc: Symbol `__vt_6QEvent' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
kvirc: Symbol `__vt_5QDate' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
KviHelpQMLClasses::Global style sheet : constructor
Speicherzugriffsfehler


TIA

Andreas




Re: [expert] modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-00

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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opportunity to respond to email until then.

Thank you.




Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

GO AWAY!

 Allen Bolderoff wrote:
 
  I say moderate. this way only one person needs to put up with the
  crap.
 
 Yea, let's get a mandrake kiss ass corporate employee to censor out
 stuff so you won't find out how crappy this 7.1 release really is.
 
 That way the stock price will dictate what you can and can't post to the
 list.
 
 Good move. So I was pissed when I wrote my little rant, have you ever
 thrown your keyboard and mouse across the room? Yes, I have a bad
 attitude towards lame geeky user interfaces, but that's just me.
 
 I think they need to hear loud and clear that when they put out releases
 or call things "stable" that arn't, they will cause people great
 frustration, including damage to anything close by :)
 
 I don't want to cause this list to be censored, please don't even
 consider it. Just take the responsibility of setting your filtering on
 your mailer, or even better, write a nasty message to your mailer
 developer and ask why they don't have a way to simply "right click" on a
 message and say "block this thread of messages" so you don't have to
 miss out on all my messages, sometimes I help people (really I do).
 
 This reminds me of when people ask the government to be mommy and censor
 the net for them. (there goes that nasty attitude again, I better shut
 up)
 





Re: [expert] kvirc Mandrake?

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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Thank you.




Re: [expert] modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-00

2000-08-21 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 22-Aug-00 by BillK:
 Tony McGee wrote:
 Thanks Tony, I have found a binfmt-aout, misc and java in the modules/fs
 directories.  Do you have any more info or pointers to info that may
 help me understand what these modules do and which I actually need?

binfmt_aout is for executing old style a.out type binaries.  Many older
programs that were based on libc5 use this format.  binfmt_java is
depecated (i.e. do not use it).  It's functionality is now included in
binfmt_misc.

Finally, binfmt_misc is support for miscellaneous binaries.
Essentially, you register the "magic-cookie" of the binary type with the
kernel (for example, a DOS file's .com extension, a java .class, or even
the MZ that is the first two characters of a dos/win .exe file) and
define what wrapper program is used to execute them.  With this
mechanism, it is possible to automagically launch dosemu to run dos
programs, WINE to run Windows binaries, or a Java VM to run java
applications.

-- 
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He lurks in every flower; 
Each season has its own disease, 
Its peril -- every hour.  
  -- Reginald Heber





[expert] filtering the list

2000-08-21 Thread Sheldon

While you are filtering Mallard,

PLEASE filter those GOD DAMN out of office replies!
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 violence are the result of a lack of wisdom ... "
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Re: [expert] modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-00

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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Thank you.




Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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Re: [expert] telnet/ssh problems

2000-08-21 Thread Ellick Chan

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Peter M Aarestad wrote:

Add a couple more v's to the command to read "ssh -vv localhost."

The current stuff here doesn't tell enough, it just says the exchange_id
failed.

 Ellick Chan wrote:
  Try enabling the verbose modes on the sshd and ssh itself, I believe the
  flag was -v, then analyze those logs. They can tell you a lot.
 
 [pma@paarestad pma]$ ssh -v localhost
 SSH Version OpenSSH_2.1.1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0.
 Compiled with SSL (0x0090581f).
 debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
 debug: Applying options for *
 debug: Seeding random number generator
 debug: ssh_connect: getuid 501 geteuid 0 anon 0
 debug: Connecting to localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] port 22.
 debug: Seeding random number generator
 debug: Allocated local port 886.
 debug: Connection established.
 ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
 debug: Calling cleanup 0x805bfe0(0x0)
 [pma@paarestad pma]$
 
 Is there anything here that would indicate what's going wrong?...
 
 -peter
 
 --
 peter aarestad :-)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.aarestad.net
 peace, love, happiness, Christ, music, etc...
 "The world really doesn't need more busy people, maybe not even more
 intelligent people. It needs 'deep people'..."
   -Don Postema
 

-- 
Regards,

Ellick Chan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug 20






[expert]

2000-08-21 Thread Don

Not able to post to the Expert list anymore
-- 
73 de KK6WJ




Re: [expert] telnet/ssh problems

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root

Paul Weber wrote:
 
 I will be out of the office from August 22  through August. 27.  I will have limited 
opportunity to respond to email until then.
 
 Thank you.

If I see ONE MORE of these I'm gonna rip my shirt off*, loop my tie
around my head, grab my Uzi and do a John Rambo on Allied National...

KILL THE OUT-OF-OFFICE AUTORESPONDER ALREADY!

Ozz.

*Not a pretty sight, I can assure you ;-D




Re: [expert]

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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Re: [expert]

2000-08-21 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Don wrote:
 
 Not able to post to the Expert list anymore
 --
 73 de KK6WJ

Doni believe you are able to post to the Expert list.

Alan




Re: [expert]

2000-08-21 Thread Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root

Don wrote:
 
 Not able to post to the Expert list anymore

Well, your post made it to me via the list...

Regards,
Ozz.




Re: [expert] wishing for a second machine

2000-08-21 Thread Vic

Hmm yeah I guess I could do that, I would need a bigger
drive, but at least that would cost less than a whole
new machine, now to get around the fact that
I use this machine as a 24 hour web server---eek!



On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Sevatio Octavio wrote:
 I'm not familiar with Vmware so I'll ask this question:  Why not just 
 fill extra partitions with your experimental distros and then use 
 Grub/Lilo to boot your desired distro?  Or does Vmware do a much better 
 job at this?
 
 Seve
 
  Original Message 
 
 On 8/20/00, 1:15:55 PM, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding 
 Re: [expert] wishing for a second machine:
 
 
  On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Vic wrote:
 
   One day when I get a separate machine (for testing purposes only)
   I want to use it to test unstable releases of linux (any dist.)
   I feel like I am not quite enough help on these lists and
   I am always the one asking for help, but I wish there
   were a way I could give back, but due to limited finds,
   I can't help out as much as I want to.
  
  One alternative may be to use VMware, www.vmware.com, or to partition 
 your
  hd further, and install multiple distros on it. A safer second choice is
  to buy a 2nd hd, and install a development Mandrake on there to play 
 with,
  so you don't screw up your main distro.
 
   I try to answer any questions that I know the answer to,
   even if someone else does it too, after all 300 heads
   are better than 3.
  
  More answers are always better than none.
 
   Sorry if I have not seemed to be much help lately,
   on either the newbie list or the expert one,
   but I would sure like to be as I learn more about the
   Unix (or Linux in this case) o/s.
  
 
  I like your dedication to try to help, even if you don't have the
  resources to. That shows that you don't try to mooch answers off
  people. That is what Open Source and Linux are all about.
 
   Long live Linux and Unix.
  
   --The Learner
  
 
  --
  Regards,
 
  Ellick Chan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Aug 20




Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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[expert] KDE 2 mdk rpm's??

2000-08-21 Thread Alan N

Anyone know where to get some?

I tried installing RH 7.1 beta which HAD KDE 2 on it.. I got it to boot
once ( and KDE 2 looked nice ) then no more..

I know I can get these from kde, but are there any mdk flavored KDE
rpm's?

Alan




Re: [expert]

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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opportunity to respond to email until then.

Thank you.




Re: [expert]

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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opportunity to respond to email until then.

Thank you.




Re: [expert]

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Vic

I was considering bouncing this guy's mail for awhile,
but that would just make more poops on the list---doh!

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, you wrote:
 Paul Weber wrote:
  
  I will be out of the office from August 22  through August. 27.  I will have 
limited opportunity to respond to email until then.
  
  Thank you.
 
 If I see ONE MORE of these I'm gonna rip my shirt off*, loop my tie
 around my head, grab my Uzi and do a John Rambo on Allied National...
 
 KILL THE OUT-OF-OFFICE AUTORESPONDER ALREADY!
 
 Ozz.
 
 *Not a pretty sight, I can assure you ;-D




Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root

Paul Weber wrote:
 
 I will be out of the office from August 22  through August. 27.  I will have limited 
opportunity to respond to email until then.

OK, a 'clue' to the bright sparks that set up Out-of-Office
autoresponders:

DON'T DO IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO JOIN THIS GUY IN MY (AND NO DOUBT MANY
OTHER USERS) KILLFILE!!

Ozz.




Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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opportunity to respond to email until then.

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Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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opportunity to respond to email until then.

Thank you.




Re: [expert] KDE 2 mdk rpm's??

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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opportunity to respond to email until then.

Thank you.




Re: Re [expert] To the Powers That Be.

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Eric Peters

heheh Well I'm kind of biased towards AMD anyway. I'm running the full 1Ghz
at home. Never had any problems so far :)Linux loves it. The only tweaking I
did was to the Hard drives by turning on dma and 32 bit mode. using the
hdparm command. hdparm -c1 -d1 -x32 /dev/hda
Man it Fly's! literally!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?









Eric Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/21/2000 08:29:11 AM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
 To:  "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 cc:  (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) 
  
  
  
 Subject: RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and  
  Linux?  
  









I think They actually got the 1Ghz working stable at 850Mhz  =o\
If AMD can actually get a socket style chip back into production I think
the race might be over and the decision to chose one processor over another
will be a lot less questionable. I am running a 750 Athlon right now and it
litterally blew me away.

My 2 Cents

Lonny Selinger

And AMD will always have the edge. Considering everything out of Intel now
days is vaporware. They can not even get their 1Ghz to run stable w/ a
custom chipset and mainboard.

-Original Message-
From: simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 4:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?


until the pentium IV comes out, athlon processors have the edge.



- Original Message -
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 06:12
Subject: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?


 I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously
considering
 the AMD chip . . . .

 Could anyone point me to references which show pros and cons of each with
 Linux, Windows, etc?

 Thanks in advance. . . .

 Robert Fox
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Re: [expert] Re:

2000-08-21 Thread Mark Weaver

"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote:
 
 Mallard wrote:
 
  Go to your options menu and set it to move messages with "Mallard" in
  them to another mail directory. That should do it.
 
 I am a geek, and so I don't use menus. I think I'll just put
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the badmailfrom controls file for qmail, as a true
 geek would. That way, mails from Mallard won't even show up in my
 mailbox.
 
  If everyone ignores the GEEKYNESS of Linux, maybe LINUX WILL GO AWAY!
 
 Damn... I should take your advice and ignore you... perhaps you'll go
 away? I think I'd like that =)
 
 Well, my apologies to everyone else. This is the last you'll hear from
 me on this - I promise.
 
 -Stephen-


ya know...all of a sudden I feel kinda bad for ole Mall. No one seems to
like him. Is he really that much of a turd? I'm relatively new to the
list so I don't know any of the history other than what i've heard so
far. Only been a mandrake user since June of this year.
-- 
Mark




Re: [expert] Netscape Corrupting the mailrules file?

2000-08-21 Thread Mark Weaver

Alan Shoemaker wrote:
 
 Mark Weaver wrote:
 [snip]
  Might someone on here have any idea what could be causing Netscape to corrupt
  its mailrule file?
 [snip]
 
 MarkI'm using 4.74 and have not had any such problems with
 it.  But I did have problems with the message filters (I guess
 this is what you mean by a mailrule file) getting screwed up
 (I actually lost all of the rules completely) a few releases
 of Netscape back.  What seemed to cure it for me was this.
 
 I noticed that the corruption/loss seemed to occur when I was
 cutting (actually copying) info from messages and pasting this
 info into a filter (either into a new one or editing an old
 one).  So, I quit cutting (copying) and pasting when creating
 and maintaining filters and the problem stopped.  Hope this
 helps.
 
 Alan

Alan,

that is exactly what I was doing. In fact, strangely enough it started
happening when I was setting up a filter I affectionately call the
twit-list to filter Mallard and his cohort Bill. :)  odd, huh? For what
ever reason Netscape is doing this what you said makes sense. What do
you supposed is causing Netscape to behave this way when performing
this?
-- 
Mark




Re: [expert] CL = Command Line (TM) (NT)

2000-08-21 Thread Mark Weaver

Greg Stewart wrote:
 
  For the uninitiated, NT means No TeXT.
 
 I thought it meant "Nice Try"  :-)
 
 --Greg

No, no,no...you all have it wrong!  :)  NT means Not Today. In reference
to are you gonna run longer than a few hours before experiencing an
abend that I am forced to reboot the server AGAIN and take down the
system in the process? Asks the network admin to his tempraMENTAL,
over-priced, NT ladened server.  :)
-- 
Mark




RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber

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opportunity to respond to email until then.

Thank you.




Re: [expert] wishing for a second machine

2000-08-21 Thread Benjamin Reed

 I will be out of the office from August 22  through August. 27.  I will
 have limited opportunity to respond to email until then.

 Thank you.

I will be out of my mind from August 21 through the rest of my life, because
of these messages.  I will have limited opportunity to be sane because of
the screaming pain in my head from the mind-numbing repetition.

Thank you.  Shoe.

--
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http://defiance.dyndns.org/ / http://radio.scenespot.org/
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