RE: [expert] Advice on Mandrake related to upgrading mobo/processor
as long as your drives are in the same order, ie hda1, hdb1 etc.. then you should be fine, I changed from a celery to a duron to a athlon to an athlonXP and didn't have to reinstall.. so you could be alright. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Praedor Tempus Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 10:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Advice on Mandrake related to upgrading mobo/processor Give it a shot...you may be suprised. I have changed mobo/processor before and not had to reinstall linux (though I did have to reinstall windoze). If you are moving from an intel to an amd, then you might have to...I don't recall if I had to when I went from celery to athlon. It doesn't hurt to try to bootup after the installation. It will either succeed or fail, if fail, reinstall. praedor On Tuesday 29 January 2002 06:53 am, MadMax99 wrote: I am planning on purchasing a new mobo/processor shortly and was wondering if I should plan on a re-install or not? My guess would be a re-install would probably be easier given my lack of linux skills ;^) Any info would be appreciated. Also... any known issues with MSI mobo's? Thanks Eric =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = MadMax99[EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = The More I learn The Less I Know! = = = =Registered Linux User #248078 = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New to Evolution mailer...
In the compose message window, go the View menu, and check reply-to field. and/or Set up multiple accounts in mail settings, one for each of your from addresses, then in the compose window, you'll get a drop-down menu of accounts for the from field. This method is better if you need to use different addresses often. hope this helps! -- whoever consoles the slave instead of arousing him to rise up against slavery is aiding the slaveowner. -- Feuerbach Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
El mié, 30-01-2002 a las 09:10, Lars Roland Kristiansen escribió: I have just installed a mandrake server. It is configured with high security level, and sshd is runing. My question is this: where du I put the ipnames of the computers that are to be allowd to connect to the server using ssh. I have put the names in /etc/hosts.allow but this doesnt seam to be enough. Sorry for my bad english. ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars /etc/hosts.allow is the correct place to put the names. On the other hand, if you have a firewall running you must leave the port 22 open. Saludos óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
On 30 Jan 2002, Oscar wrote: El mié, 30-01-2002 a las 09:10, Lars Roland Kristiansen escribió: I have just installed a mandrake server. It is configured with high security level, and sshd is runing. My question is this: where du I put the ipnames of the computers that are to be allowd to connect to the server using ssh. I have put the names in /etc/hosts.allow but this doesnt seam to be enough. Sorry for my bad english. ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars /etc/hosts.allow is the correct place to put the names. On the other hand, if you have a firewall running you must leave the port 22 open. Saludos óscar. Is an IP name enough or do i have to specifie INED service can somone pleace show me an hosts.allow file with ssh enabled that would help ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars Lars Roland Kristiansen | Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stu. Sci. Math/Computer science | TLF(home):39670663 Copenhagen University - | Home address: Emdrupvej 175 Institute for Mathematical Sciences | C/O Rune Bruhn 2400 Copenhagen NV Url: www.math.ku.dk | Politics is for the moment, equations are forever - Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: [MPlayer-users] NVidia will be bannished
Ok Terry. Maybe you right, but the real reason of this hoopla on nVidia's closed driver is the fact that one is unable, for example, to correct some specific nVidia bug for your graphic or video programme that one can be developing. So, that's why I think that nVidia should give, at least, a good list of specifications, on the contrary, I think, perhaps some nVidia users can get limited and have to wait for nVidia driver release. Actually, I'm not sure if such a impossibility will one day happen, but I simply do not like the idea that such risk exists. On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Terry Mathews wrote: I've just got a quick question on this topic: with all of this hoopla on nVidia's closed source Linux drivers, what is wrong with them? Do they not do something right? To the best of my knowledge, they implement OpenGL 1.3 to the letter; is something broken? Because, after this open/closed source debate is over we will still be left with the fact that nVidia's closed source drivers work better than ATi's or Matrox's. Terry -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
Hello, I think that in this thread, the problem of teaching Windows at school has been misunderstood. I'm disagreeing that professors teach at school about a system of Windows or Linux or anyother. That is NOT the school matter. School has been made to learn students methods. Then, once the student arrive in the real world, he will apply all this generic method and will manage what ever the situation is, the systems or the tools to solve problem or to choose a good solution. Learning how to use a specific software is like learning how to solve a specific mathematical problem. You can throw away that lesson after as in a problem with different parameters (but the same method to slove) you'll NOT be able to solve it. So teaching Windows at school is a bad idea, and also teaching Linux! How to use Windows or Word or Linux or whatever you like should be the personal choice of the student for it's own (nothing to do with school!) After for people who don't have access to technology because of financial problems, the school should be delivering some optional extra Practical Classes, where you could go kind of freely. There, they would be able to get familiar with internet, with a word processing, etc. but they should be trying different ones, see what they would prefer... Which means also to have competent teachers in different systems and softwares. Jean-Christophe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
heck i never got a chance to learn computers in school, and i didn't turn out too bad. on a more serious note, i was rather appalled to see that the syllabus for the diploma in engineering courses here in Goa focus on windows rather than linux. I suppose in a richer country one can argue purely on the ethics of the issue, but over here cost is an important consideration too. As a newly appointed member to the board committee that reviews the syllabus, you can be sure that i'll have lots to say about that in future meetings. Thank You, Regards, mario Jean-Christophe Berthon wrote: Hello, I think that in this thread, the problem of teaching Windows at school has been misunderstood. I'm disagreeing that professors teach at school about a system of Windows or Linux or anyother. That is NOT the school matter. School has been made to learn students methods. Then, once the student arrive in the real world, he will apply all this generic method and will manage what ever the situation is, the systems or the tools to solve problem or to choose a good solution. Learning how to use a specific software is like learning how to solve a specific mathematical problem. You can throw away that lesson after as in a problem with different parameters (but the same method to slove) you'll NOT be able to solve it. So teaching Windows at school is a bad idea, and also teaching Linux! How to use Windows or Word or Linux or whatever you like should be the personal choice of the student for it's own (nothing to do with school!) After for people who don't have access to technology because of financial problems, the school should be delivering some optional extra Practical Classes, where you could go kind of freely. There, they would be able to get familiar with internet, with a word processing, etc. but they should be trying different ones, see what they would prefer... Which means also to have competent teachers in different systems and softwares. Jean-Christophe -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MandrakeUpdate fails and empty rpm files
I just ran MandrakeUpdate. Looking at /var/cache/urpmi: [root@mozart rpms]# ls -l * -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jan 30 06:17 at-3.1.8-4.1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jan 30 06:17 bind-utils-9.2.0-0.rc3.2mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jan 30 06:17 enscript-1.6.1-22.1mdk.i586.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jan 30 06:17 rsync-2.4.6-3.1mdk.i586.rpm The file sizes are all zero! Anyone know what's happening? -- Stephen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
El mié, 30-01-2002 a las 11:50, Lars Roland Kristiansen escribió: On 30 Jan 2002, Oscar wrote: El mié, 30-01-2002 a las 09:10, Lars Roland Kristiansen escribió: I have just installed a mandrake server. It is configured with high security level, and sshd is runing. My question is this: where du I put the ipnames of the computers that are to be allowd to connect to the server using ssh. I have put the names in /etc/hosts.allow but this doesnt seam to be enough. Sorry for my bad english. ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars /etc/hosts.allow is the correct place to put the names. On the other hand, if you have a firewall running you must leave the port 22 open. Saludos óscar. Is an IP name enough or do i have to specifie INED service can somone pleace show me an hosts.allow file with ssh enabled that would help ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars For example, if you need allow access to 123.123.123.123, you must put in /etc/hosts.allow this: sshd:123.132.123.123 You can also put the ALL: prefix instead of sshd:, but you will grant access to all services using hosts.allow. And you can use netmasks: sshd:123.123.123.0/255.255.255.0 Hope this help you. Saludos óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: [MPlayer-users] NVidia will be bannished
True, but ATi's open source driver has a bug too, and it's not fixed yet. I can't even get anyone interested in fixing the bug. :-( That's the main reason why I bought an nVidia card. Open source is great, if you've got an expert on hand to fix it from time to time. Sometimes, tho, having a company write drivers for you isn't a bad idea. Maybe you right, but the real reason of this hoopla on nVidia's closed driver is the fact that one is unable, for example, to correct some specific nVidia bug for your graphic or video programme that one can be developing. While in general I agree with you, nVidia does have an important IP to protect here, one that would even the playing board for Matrox and ATi. Someday nVidia will decide to open-source their drivers, unless Linux takes over Microsoft's marketshare (I wish). But for now, nVidia is interested in providing Linux drivers. Let's applaude them for writing good drivers, not scorn them for not open sourcing the driver, especially when so many companies won't put their money where their mouth is when it comes to supporting Linux. It's easy to just give the DRI project your specs, costs a lot more to support your card _yourself_. Terry So, that's why I think that nVidia should give, at least, a good list of specifications, on the contrary, I think, perhaps some nVidia users can get limited and have to wait for nVidia driver release. Actually, I'm not sure if such a impossibility will one day happen, but I simply do not like the idea that such risk exists. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] renaming large number of files.
OK Try th comman apropos at the prompt, it gives you a list of man pages to look through that contain reference to parameters that you give the command ie apropos bash Gives a huge list!! Hope this helps si -Original Message- From: Larry Sword [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:48:08 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] renaming large number of files. Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: That was not what I meant but, I guess it will do it! ;-) [I used to love DOS batch files!] As I have heard and felt Linux contains a miriade/pletora of commands and I would like to find sources/resources for a better understanding of this system... and what is quite bad... not all of them have a man page (or info page) to help us! (as a volunteer translator/reviewer at ldp-br [man pages] I could feel that!). But then again...it's hard to find a 'command' you've never heard of! But I'd better take your suggestion as a smooth (?) start! tks []s Ricardo Castanho You may have read this, and since you are coming from from the DOS world, the DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO may prove helpful. Larry Read at http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html and find all about linux resources included in bash. On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 04:35:52 -0200 (BRST) Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Win a ski trip! http://www.nowcode.com/register.asp?affiliate=1net2phone3a Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
Title: RE: [expert] AAArgh!!! M$madness!!! or setup a internet gateway box with linux, but give it the full gui as well, then they can see it getting used for something good, show them how their internal network is invisable to grc.com or others and then get real flash and show them gnome and kde, or more inportantly, Koffice, Staroffice, openoffice, and the games,, oh and maybe mozilla and Netscape and possible Opera... (and evolution makes a good demo for windows people too, they can't believe its not Outlook.. in fact thats a good name for evolution,, "I Can't Believe Its Not Outlook" :-) rgds Frank -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Williamson (ENZ)Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2002 5:14 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [expert] AAArgh!!! M$madness!!! Hi There, Rather than snarling and carrying on about this M$ thing. Why not give a demonstration of Linux to the school. I'm sure that they would be open to this kind of thing (especially since you work with it ;-) ). Even if you install Linux on a box that will only be used for browsing the internet, you've started the school on the right track. Don't get into this philosophy that M$ is bad, Linux is good. Because technically challenged people will start turning off. Offer Linux as a windows alternative at bargain basement prices. For example demonstrate KDE, Mozilla, StarOffice and XMMS. Once they see the price advantages, bye bye M$. Good Luck and let us know how you get on. Craig -Original Message- From: Harm Bathoorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2002 8:27 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] AAArgh!!! M$madness!!! Hello all, Just wanted to scream, sorry about that:) I've been to an IT evening at my children's (primary) school witnessing how the teachers think they can turn my children into braindead M$windows consumers. The principal even came over to ask (he'd heard I was in computers) if I felt like helping out in teaching the kids how to use Word , excel and powerpoint. hence the shriek. He didn't even understand when I told him I hardly had any windows apps knowledge, he thought I was talking DOS. I already wrote an article for them on the subject but aparently nobody's read it. Maybe it wasn't braindead enough:( Look like I'll have to go for it a second time, and hope I get my message across this time. I doubt it though, they've already got the local IT vultures all over them. What a waste of resources:( -- Good luck, Harm Bathoorn. "Sudden Death!! Microsoft Office demands it's serial-code AGAIN!!"
RE: [expert] XFS filesystem, SMP and 2GB memory support
By SGI !! -Message d'origine- De: kayaturk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mardi, 29. janvier 2002 22:25 À:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet:[expert] XFS filesystem, SMP and 2GB memory support Hi Guys, Does any one know that, where I can find 2.4 kernels with XFS, SMP and 2GB memory support. The problem is that standard cannot mount XFS file system during boot process thus causing errors. I can also compile the kernel but this system does not belong to me so I do not want to spend time on it. Thanks in advance. Kursad Fichier: message.txt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 13:00, you wrote: Hello, I think that in this thread, the problem of teaching Windows at school has been misunderstood. I'm disagreeing that professors teach at school about a system of Windows or Linux or anyother. That is NOT the school matter. School has been made to learn students methods. Then, once the student arrive in the real world, he will apply all this generic method and will manage what ever the situation is, the systems or the tools to solve problem or to choose a good solution. Learning how to use a specific software is like learning how to solve a specific mathematical problem. You can throw away that lesson after as in a problem with different parameters (but the same method to slove) you'll NOT be able to solve it. So teaching Windows at school is a bad idea, and also teaching Linux! How to use Windows or Word or Linux or whatever you like should be the personal choice of the student for it's own (nothing to do with school!) After for people who don't have access to technology because of financial problems, the school should be delivering some optional extra Practical Classes, where you could go kind of freely. There, they would be able to get familiar with internet, with a word processing, etc. but they should be trying different ones, see what they would prefer... Which means also to have competent teachers in different systems and softwares. Jean-Christophe Point taken! It's all about freedom of choice. -- Good Speed, Harm Bathoorn. Sudden Death!! Microsoft Office demands it's serial-code AGAIN!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
Thanks for some reason i also had to put sshd1 sshd2 in there to but know it works On 30 Jan 2002, Oscar wrote: El mié, 30-01-2002 a las 11:50, Lars Roland Kristiansen escribió: On 30 Jan 2002, Oscar wrote: El mié, 30-01-2002 a las 09:10, Lars Roland Kristiansen escribió: I have just installed a mandrake server. It is configured with high security level, and sshd is runing. My question is this: where du I put the ipnames of the computers that are to be allowd to connect to the server using ssh. I have put the names in /etc/hosts.allow but this doesnt seam to be enough. Sorry for my bad english. ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars /etc/hosts.allow is the correct place to put the names. On the other hand, if you have a firewall running you must leave the port 22 open. Saludos óscar. Is an IP name enough or do i have to specifie INED service can somone pleace show me an hosts.allow file with ssh enabled that would help ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars For example, if you need allow access to 123.123.123.123, you must put in /etc/hosts.allow this: sshd:123.132.123.123 You can also put the ALL: prefix instead of sshd:, but you will grant access to all services using hosts.allow. And you can use netmasks: sshd:123.123.123.0/255.255.255.0 Hope this help you. Saludos óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars Lars Roland Kristiansen | Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stu. Sci. Math/Computer science | TLF(home):39670663 Copenhagen University - | Home address: Emdrupvej 175 Institute for Mathematical Sciences | C/O Rune Bruhn 2400 Copenhagen NV Url: www.math.ku.dk | Politics is for the moment, equations are forever - Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] What firewall to use in MDK 8.1
ditch bastille, and go with something like gShield.. I used pmfirewall with 7.2 and ipchains because there was nothing else with such a logical layout and rules list.. the same is true in a different way with gShield.. it has one simple conf file that just asks you questions, and a bunch of other files that can be used for opening specific ports or port forwarding and blacklists and the like.. nice simple and logical. gotta love that right? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daRcmaTTeR Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2002 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] What firewall to use in MDK 8.1 On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:12:48 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 06:35:30 -0500 David Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: OK, did you reflush/restart your firewall? I am not an expert, but this is as far as my firewall knowledge goes. Dave. PS. My 139 is closed. no, as a matter of fact I didn't. As far as I know that isn't necessary when adding a new rule to the firewall. of course I could be wrong in my understanding too. It's happened before. ;) i'll give it a try and see what happens. -- daRcmaTTeR Are u using Bastille? If so, I was told that to effect changes I had to do a: service bastille-firewall stop followed by: service bastille-firewall start That is, short of rebooting... ;-) Hope this helps... thanks, but that didn't seem to make any difference. for what ever reason iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport -i ppp0 -j DROP doesn't make any difference. port 139 remains open to the outer interface. -- daRcmaTTeR - Registered Linux User 182496 - 9:05pm up 23 days, 11:37, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.14, 0.16 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] kvm switch
Hey all I've got a logitech trackman marble which works fine no matter how I connect it. My problem is, when I connect it through my kvm switch (linksys 2-port with button on front), my wheel stops working. Is there any kind of workaround for this? TIA, mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] double list mails
On Tuesday 29 January 2002 10:06 pm, you wrote: I'm getting duplicate emails from this list but not from other lists I'm on. Anyone else see this? Know what I should do? Mike: It happens from time to time around here. The strange thing is that some people get lots of them and other get none. At other times, some of us have been mysteriously dropped from the list. (The usual remedy is to cancel and then reapply.) Consider it part of the charm of Linux ;^). -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
I was wondering if the following is acceptable: sshd: ALL Sure; that lets you access via SSH from anywhere in the world. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] double list mails
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2002 10:06 pm, you wrote: I'm getting duplicate emails from this list but not from other lists I'm on. Anyone else see this? Know what I should do? Mike: It happens from time to time around here. The strange thing is that some people get lots of them and other get none. At other times, some of us have been mysteriously dropped from the list. (The usual remedy is to cancel and then reapply.) Consider it part of the charm of Linux ;^). -- cmg I've gotten double emails is when I've replied to a post and someone then replies to the thread. My email is then included in the CC list and thus I get two copies. Also, some folks cross-post to the newbies and experts list, so if you're subscribed to both you'll get duplicates. And if you're subscribed to both lists and reply to a thread, you could conceivably get three copies. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
sshd: ALL Sure; that lets you access via SSH from anywhere in the world. Just in case, some ssh servers (protocol 1) have serious security issues (probably not the recent openssh distr. which, I believe, is the default), anyway, it's not a bad idea to disable protocol 1. Most of the clients are now 'protocol 2 able' anyway. Thomas. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] No such file or directory message from bash
Hi! I have some similar problem running some old executables (that use the old glibc). If you try ldd ./swatgrs_set may be you would have some info about the libs it needs. May be you need to install some compatibility libraries for old libc. It works for me.. same error. See ya El Mié 23 Ene 2002 15:35, escribiste: Aleksey wrote: Dear experts, Does anyone know why I get the No such file or directory message when trying to run an executable in bash? Here's what I have: [aleksey@botik aleksey]$ ls -la total 97900 [ snip ] -rwxr--r--1 aleksey aleksey104318 Jan 22 20:31 swatgrs_set* The executable 'swatgrs_set' is there, but I can't run it: [aleksey@botik aleksey]$ ./swatgrs_set bash: ./swatgrs_set: No such file or directory It looks like its set to only run for root. Have you tried running it as root? If it works there, then change your permissions. You should see some more x's there... ;-) Neither one helps :-( Tried running as root as well as adding exec permissions for all: [aleksey@botik aleksey]$ su Password: [root@botik aleksey]# ./swatgrs_set bash: ./swatgrs_set: No such file or directory [root@botik aleksey]# chmod a+x swatgrs_set [root@botik aleksey]# ll ... -rwxr-xr-x1 aleksey aleksey104318 Jan 22 20:31 swatgrs_set* [root@botik aleksey]# ./swatgrs_set bash: ./swatgrs_set: No such file or directory [root@botik aleksey]# Any ideas? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
Thus spake Thomas Sourmail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): sshd: ALL Sure; that lets you access via SSH from anywhere in the world. Just in case, some ssh servers (protocol 1) have serious security issues (probably not the recent openssh distr. which, I believe, is the default), anyway, it's not a bad idea to disable protocol 1. Most of the clients are now 'protocol 2 able' anyway. If it's a linux client, be sure to get the latest openssh (3.0.2p1) which fixes a security hole which (IIRC) ignored hosts.allow and hosts.deny. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SSH
Oscar wrote: El mié, 30-01-2002 a las 11:50, Lars Roland Kristiansen escribió: On 30 Jan 2002, Oscar wrote: El mié, 30-01-2002 a las 09:10, Lars Roland Kristiansen escribió: I have just installed a mandrake server. It is configured with high security level, and sshd is runing. My question is this: where du I put the ipnames of the computers that are to be allowd to connect to the server using ssh. I have put the names in /etc/hosts.allow but this doesnt seam to be enough. Sorry for my bad english. ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars /etc/hosts.allow is the correct place to put the names. On the other hand, if you have a firewall running you must leave the port 22 open. Saludos óscar. Is an IP name enough or do i have to specifie INED service can somone pleace show me an hosts.allow file with ssh enabled that would help ___ Mvh./Yours sincerely Lars For example, if you need allow access to 123.123.123.123, you must put in /etc/hosts.allow this: sshd:123.132.123.123 You can also put the ALL: prefix instead of sshd:, but you will grant access to all services using hosts.allow. And you can use netmasks: sshd:123.123.123.0/255.255.255.0 I was wondering if the following is acceptable: sshd: ALL I am having trouble with connecting with SSH from the internet even though port 22 is open and I'm not specifically denying any connection. I disabled the firewall to see if there was a rule that it was blocking the connections but I still couldn't connect from the internet. SSH does work when connecting within my intranet (LAN). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:46:23 -0800 (PST) Mike Tracy Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all I've got a logitech trackman marble which works fine no matter how I connect it. My problem is, when I connect it through my kvm switch (linksys 2-port with button on front), my wheel stops working. Is there any kind of workaround for this? Mike I have 3 of the linksys switches and have never had any luck with getting any mice except for generic 2 buttons to work properly when connected through the switch. I can not work prperly unless I can have my Logetech Mouseman Optical so I connect only the monitors and keyboards though the kvm and have a seperate mouse on each system. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.2 Beta
Mario, Thanks for your response and support! Randy Kramer Mario Michael da Costa wrote: I couldn't agree more. My MDK 7.2 cd's are still rated among my most valuable. And while i personally never had a major problem with MDK 8.1, I would like to see a good, rock solid stable 8.2. MDK 7.2 has really done a lot to shift the focus away from RH, over here in Goa. Since Linux is somewhat in it's infancy stage over here not many gurus to help, though our local LUG is catching on. while RH 6.2 would choke on the 810 mobo's MDK 7.2 installed like a charm, autodetected most hardware and was a pleasure to work with. That's what got me hooked as well as a lot of other people over here. A linux box is more than just the kernal and desktop. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
NDPTAL85 wrote: There's no reason to get all bent out of shape because Microsoft software is being used in schools. There's a good argument for it to be used, its what the children will also see in the workplace. I don't see how using Linux will benefit anyone if they learn systems they most likely aren't going to use in an office environment. If they wish to pursue a technical career then get them their own comp that they can install Linux themselves on, but for most schools Windows is just fine. I'm not getting bent out of shape here either, but I'd like to see every generation exposed to something OTHER than the worlds most monopostic OS. Aside from purely sentimental reasons, the schools could have better hardware, used more efficiently, if they chose open-source. The money they pay out the butt for licensing fees to MicroSloth could well be spent better elsewhere. I have an 8 year old and an 11 year old who have seen nothing but Windog at their school and I'm uneasy about this. Of course, here...they both know how to boot into Mandrake Linux and use it. Its installed on all 3 of our home computers. ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] How to make the VooDoo 2 Work.
Anybody been able to make the old VooDoo 2 work in 8.1 Ive tried all the tricks that have been talked aboout since 7.1 and have never gotten it to work as other than a paper weight Main card is intel i740 8Mb AGP -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New to Evolution mailer...
I believe the view as attachment is an optional setting in Evolution. You should check your configuration. On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 18:48, Lee Roberts wrote: I wish people wouldn't use Evolution until the e-mail from Evolution will display in the body of all e-mail programs instead of as an attachment. It also slows down the trashing of files for some reason since it seems that the attachment has to be loaded (probably my AV software is scanning it for viruses). At 10:56 AM 1/29/2002 -0700, Robert Goshko wrote: Run Plugin:C:\Attach\Re [expert] New to Evolution m.ems 0880.0002 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What firewall to use in MDK 8.1
thanks, but that didn't seem to make any difference. for what ever reason iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport -i ppp0 -j DROP doesn't make any difference. port 139 remains open to the outer interface. Just checking, ppp0 is your external i/face? Dave. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] double list mails
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 10:31, you wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2002 10:06 pm, you wrote: I'm getting duplicate emails from this list but not from other lists I'm on. Anyone else see this? Know what I should do? Mike: It happens from time to time around here. The strange thing is that some people get lots of them and other get none. At other times, some of us have been mysteriously dropped from the list. (The usual remedy is to cancel and then reapply.) Consider it part of the charm of Linux ;^). -- cmg not charm (machines cann't have charm shezzz) It's random enhancements Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] double list mails
Carroll Grigsby wrote: It happens from time to time around here. The strange thing is that some people get lots of them and other get none. At other times, some of us have been mysteriously dropped from the list. (The usual remedy is to cancel and then reapply.) Consider it part of the charm of Linux ;^). That sounds like the charm of Windows. I want to get away from that kind of charm. ;-) Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
Are your switches PS/2 style or AT style? I use a mechanical KVM, AT style, and just recently hooked up my first computer that had a PS/2 port for the mouse. I found I had better luck running the mouse into a serial port than the PS/2 port. (I tried PS/2 to AT converters on the input and output of the switch -- it works fine for the keyboard but did not work for the mouse.) I'm just wondering if, when I buy an electronic KVM, I'm better off buying an AT style, using PS/2 to AT converters for the keyboard, and sticking with serial mice? Randy Kramer Charles A Edwards wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:46:23 -0800 (PST) Mike Tracy Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all I've got a logitech trackman marble which works fine no matter how I connect it. My problem is, when I connect it through my kvm switch (linksys 2-port with button on front), my wheel stops working. Is there any kind of workaround for this? Mike I have 3 of the linksys switches and have never had any luck with getting any mice except for generic 2 buttons to work properly when connected through the switch. I can not work prperly unless I can have my Logetech Mouseman Optical so I connect only the monitors and keyboards though the kvm and have a seperate mouse on each system. Charles --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
Mario Michael da Costa wrote: on a more serious note, i was rather appalled to see that the syllabus for the diploma in engineering courses here in Goa focus on windows rather than linux. I suppose in a richer country one can argue purely on the ethics of the issue, but over here cost is an important consideration too. As a newly appointed member to the board committee that reviews the syllabus, you can be sure that i'll have lots to say about that in future meetings. Mario, Wonderful -- hang in there and make your voice heard! Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Post install oddity
dunno if this has been answered (500 messages yet to read.) but if you use rpm to remove both kernels. then boot from the first install CD, and chose expert/upgrade. Let it do its thing and when its done, you will have the original kernel loaded and working.. then install your security update kernel manually with rpm -ivh kernel* that will get you all fixed up. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Deryk Barker Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2002 2:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Post install oddity Further clarification. I had forgotten that I'd used MandrakeUpdate to pull and install the latest security fixes. This includes a new kernel (2.4.8-34). Unfortiunately it looks as if the install of the kernel RPM has screwed things up. The previous kernel (still running) is 2.4.8-26, but the 2.4.8-26.1mdk directory in /lib/modules has disappeared. A reboot would seem the obvious answer, but /boot/initrd.img is now a link to a non-existent initrd-2.4.8-26mdk.img and there is no equivalent file for the new version. Which means I daren't reboot. I am about to try a forced install of the pervious kernel version (having to download the rpm from a mirror). But there would appear to be a basic problem with the kernel rpm (unless I'm missing something very obvious), which is that it only seems to do half the work and leaves the system in a somewhat flakey state. Am I missing something? I'm trying to fit all this in between teaching classes, so I rarely get more than a few minutes to think about it at a time, so if I am missing something incredibly obvious, please someone put me out of my misery and everybody else accept my apologies... -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] test...ignore
Having MUCHO prolems posting to the list...test. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailserver and dhcp
Thanks...I have postfix running, I have tinydns built and installed, and I downloaded dhcp-dns from freshmeat. I've edited resolve.conf to place 127.0.0.1 at the top and I've followed the instructions that came from the djbdns site (tinydns) but I see no indication at all that tinydns is actually doing anything. The instructions: 1. Use tinydns-conf to configure tinydns on 1.2.3.4: tinydns-conf tinydns dnslog /etc/tinydns 1.2.3.4 (of course, substituting my real ip) 2. Tell svscan about the service: ln -s /etc/tinydns /service 3. Now tell tinydns to answer questions about my domain name and 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa domains and to advertise 1.2.3.5 as the DNS server (I tried 127.0.0.1 and then my ip address here without result): cd /service/root ./add-ns my domain 1.2.3.5 ./add-ns 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa 1.2.3.5 make 4. I then told it about my mailserver: cd /service/root ./add-mx my domain 1.2.3.4 make Now when I svscan runs, it produces a lot of errors on one directory in /service: supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist... and queries do not go through my tinydns at all. I see no error messages in my logs anywhere. Any pointers or corrections? To publish my dns so my mailserver will really work, do I use 127.0.0.1 or my actual IP address, or do I produce an alias/virtual IP (or something)? On Tuesday 29 January 2002 07:02 pm, J. Craig Woods wrote: Praedor Tempus wrote: I installed postfix last night and have since switched my smtp server to local via postfix. [...] I think you are on the right path with postfix. There are a few short cuts out there for mail servers with dhcp assigned ip addresses, i.e. dydns.com but setting up the real thing is the way to go. I have a similar situation, and here is my solution (of course, there are many methods for doing what you want). Run your own name server, and make a MX resource record for your mail server. Change localhost to your FQDN, and enter that in the postfix config file (main.cf). After you get your dhcp pump, giving ip, nameservers, and mask info, you will need to edit /etc/resolv.conf and add your dns server as a primary nameserver (127.0.0.1 is the best entry). Also add search your.domain.com as the first domain to search. You can keep the [...] --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
I agree 100%!! I work tech support at a college, and all too often I deal with people who learned win - duh-oh-zzz in k-12 by rote. The primary/secondary school system in our community uses a very different configuration than our college (small community- 1 high school, 1 college). WHen they arrive here, the usual first complaint is This isn't windows! followed by this isn't the windows I learned in school!. If they had been properly taught basic COMPUTER literacy, they could sit down at a Mac, windblows, or linux box, and be productive in minutes. Instead they are taught the Gospel of Bill, by dogmatic and brain dead instructors. Ken Jean-Christophe Berthon wrote: Hello, I think that in this thread, the problem of teaching Windows at school has been misunderstood. I'm disagreeing that professors teach at school about a system of Windows or Linux or anyother. That is NOT the school matter. School has been made to learn students methods. Then, once the student arrive in the real world, he will apply all this generic method and will manage what ever the situation is, the systems or the tools to solve problem or to choose a good solution. Learning how to use a specific software is like learning how to solve a specific mathematical problem. You can throw away that lesson after as in a problem with different parameters (but the same method to slove) you'll NOT be able to solve it. So teaching Windows at school is a bad idea, and also teaching Linux! How to use Windows or Word or Linux or whatever you like should be the personal choice of the student for it's own (nothing to do with school!) After for people who don't have access to technology because of financial problems, the school should be delivering some optional extra Practical Classes, where you could go kind of freely. There, they would be able to get familiar with internet, with a word processing, etc. but they should be trying different ones, see what they would prefer... Which means also to have competent teachers in different systems and softwares. Jean-Christophe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] $%##! nautilus!
Hi all, Excuse me for the subject of this mail. I'm furious. (I'm just joking) Under LM8.1, using gnome,... Why nautilus opens when I mount a CD? How can I disallow it? Thanks, Óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] What firewall to use in MDK 8.1
There is a couple of lines in /etc/portsentry.conf about halfway down.. where you can specify ports that you want ignored by portsentry.. perhaps you should add 22 to the tcp list.. then portsentry can't be a potential problem anymore.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daRcmaTTeR Sent: Monday, 28 January 2002 2:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] What firewall to use in MDK 8.1 On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:26:23 -0700 Lee Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: I made the statement that none of my UDP ports are blocked. Most are showing closed but there are a couple showing open. I would have expected that the default policy would be DENY but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm trying to learn the details about creating iptables so that I can resolve this issue. Also, I am allowing access to TCP port 22 (using Bastille) but I can't seem to connect to it even though a port scan shows it open (just another problem with Bastille). Like I previously stated, it's a good thing I don't have anything on the Linux box that needs to be secured at this time. :-D I can relate to the a UDP port needing to be closed, and not being able to get it done. At the moment I'd love to get port 139 closed to the outside interface, but no matter what it's just not working out that way. Prolly something simple that I'm missing. As for your port 22 if you've got Portsentry running it's very likely that it detected your connection attemtp and has done it's thing in blocking access to that port. That is a very common occurance. Since you can't connect even though a port scan shows it open I'm willing to bet that it's cause Portsentry is blocking access. -- daRcmaTTeR windows = where do you want to go today Mac = go where you want, do what you want today MDK-linux = been there, done that, got the tee shirt, why do you ask? Registered Mandrake Linux User # 186492 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] expert SSH
Dear friends, I have some question about security and SSH: 1) I test in a system runing Mandrake 8.0 a high security level, but I had problem with the port 22: How can I get it open? 2) I restart the low security level an ssh start to run again, but now i can't use telnet neither ftp. In 8.1 there are in DrakConf the possibility to activate both: telnet and wu-ftp, but not in 8.0, at least in the computer I am testing. What can I do to make both services run again without DrakConf? Thanks so much in advance for your help, yours sincerely Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] install on existing raid-array
Hi, I've searched the usenet-archives for this extensively and came up with about a million posts, but none of them gave me a clear view on this. The question is pretty simple: Can I install Mandrake on an existing IDE hardware raid(0)-array which has windows 2000 already installed? I'm thinking it can't be done (yet). I have no experience with raid-setups myself, as I am asking this for a friend who recently bought a fancy new PC and I convinced him that he should install Linux so he can see how great it is :) I am no newbie, so it would not be a problem to compile a new kernel or stuff like that. I tried to boot from the Mandrake 8.0 CD, but although it did nicely detect the Promise ATA100-RAID chipset, it could not handle/detect the raid-array. I am now downloading the MDK 8.1 ISOs, but I thought i would ask this first before I screw up this guy's disks :) The most common advise I found, was to use software-raid. Would it be possible to install windows and linux and tell them both to do software-raid (on the same disks)? Any pointers/help would be greatly appreciated. best regards, Leander Koorneef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Euro problem, only Spanish locale? -- THE SOLUTION???
Ok, but Joan Tur and Oscar use the spanish as first language and I no. I prefer to use catalan as first language. So Leo A Dimarts 29 Gener 2002 09:56, vàreu escriure: El lun, 28-01-2002 a las 11:37, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda escribió: Hi, I begin to be a bit frustrate. I can see the euro symbol. I can copy it, ¤, I have tested with this configuration: SYSFONT=lat0-sun16 LC_CTYPE=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LC_MONETARY=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LANGUAGE=ca:es_ES:es:es_ES:en:en_EN LC_TIME=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LC_NUMERIC=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LC_COLLATE=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LC_MESSAGES=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LANG=ca SYSFONTACM=iso15 and with this configuration: SYSFONT=lat0-sun16 LC_CTYPE=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LC_MONETARY=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LANGUAGE=ca.ISO-8859-15:ca_ES.ISO-8859-15:es_ES.ISO-8859-15:es.ISO-8859-1 5:es_ES.ISO-8859-15:en.ISO-8859-15:en_EN.ISO-8859-15 LC_TIME=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LC_NUMERIC=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LC_COLLATE=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LC_MESSAGES=ca_ES.ISO-8859-15 LANG=ca SYSFONTACM=iso15 I use kde 2.2.1 and I have selected in control panel the iso8859-15 charset, and well, I'm not be able to write a ¤ with the altgr+E keys. Neither using kate, kwrite, konsole, etc. So, well. I don't know waht to do. Maybe is something about the spanish keyboard, or similar, but ... I don't know what to do ... Best regards, Leo Hi, When I changed my /etc/sysconfig/i18n to put .ISO-8859-15 instead of @euro, I lost the AltGr+E key. I changed it to the original with @euro suffix and AltGr+E now works. And I can print the ¤ symbol in StarOffice 5.2 using some fonts: Arioso, Conga, Helmet, LucidaBright, LucidaSans, LucidaTypeWriter, and Timmons. With the other fonts I can't print the euro symbol (I don't know the reason), but I can type it in the screen. My current /etc/sysconfig/i18n: SYSFONT=lat0-sun16 LC_CTYPE=es_ES@euro LC_MONETARY=es_ES@euro LANGUAGE=es_ES:es LC_TIME=es_ES@euro LC_NUMERIC=es_ES@euro LC_COLLATE=es_ES@euro LC_MESSAGES=es_ES@euro LANG=es SYSFONTACM=iso15 Saludos Óscar. -- Leopold Palomo Avellaneda Linux User 152692 Catalonia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] double list mails
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:44:12 -0500 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 30 January 2002 10:31, you wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2002 10:06 pm, you wrote: I'm getting duplicate emails from this list but not from other lists I'm on. Anyone else see this? Know what I should do? Mike: It happens from time to time around here. The strange thing is that some people get lots of them and other get none. At other times, some of us have been mysteriously dropped from the list. (The usual remedy is to cancel and then reapply.) Consider it part of the charm of Linux ;^). -- cmg not charm (machines cann't have charm shezzz) It's random enhancements Dang and I thought it was a Feature *grin* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:36:52 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:46:23 -0800 (PST) Mike Tracy Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all I've got a logitech trackman marble which works fine no matter how I connect it. My problem is, when I connect it through my kvm switch (linksys 2-port with button on front), my wheel stops working. Is there any kind of workaround for this? Mike I have 3 of the linksys switches and have never had any luck with getting any mice except for generic 2 buttons to work properly when connected through the switch. I can not work prperly unless I can have my Logetech Mouseman Optical so I connect only the monitors and keyboards though the kvm and have a seperate mouse on each system. Charles Ditto here. I can't get my ediMax to work with the mouse on linux or winderz so I'm stuck with a KV switch instead of KVM (the only problem is grabbing the wrong mouse and wondering where my pointer went.) Really seems to be a hardware conflict rather than a software conflict. If anyone has gotten a 3 button or wheel mouse to work please tell me how you did it. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 11:25 AM, Ronald J. Hall wrote: NDPTAL85 wrote: There's no reason to get all bent out of shape because Microsoft software is being used in schools. There's a good argument for it to be used, its what the children will also see in the workplace. I don't see how using Linux will benefit anyone if they learn systems they most likely aren't going to use in an office environment. If they wish to pursue a technical career then get them their own comp that they can install Linux themselves on, but for most schools Windows is just fine. I'm not getting bent out of shape here either, but I'd like to see every generation exposed to something OTHER than the worlds most monopostic OS. Aside from purely sentimental reasons, the schools could have better hardware, used more efficiently, if they chose open-source. The money they pay out the butt for licensing fees to MicroSloth could well be spent better elsewhere. I have an 8 year old and an 11 year old who have seen nothing but Windog at their school and I'm uneasy about this. Of course, here...they both know how to boot into Mandrake Linux and use it. Its installed on all 3 of our home computers. ;-) Alright let me ask you this, are your kids going to grow up to work in the IT field? Are they going to be programmers or system administrators or network engineers? If not then what does it matter what OS is used in their schools? If they grow up to be doctors or lawyers or singers or social workers where is the relevance of OS concerned? --- I think, therefore, I am... not related to you. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
Would seem to me that the solutions are. 1. Make your voice heard. As a parent your resposibility is your childs education, not the school. The school could be the vehicle you chose to fill your responsiblity but it's not the states duty. Join the PTA, go to school board meetings. Make your voice heard. 2. Volunteer to arrange volunteers to teach computers, maintain computers etc. Quite often the person teaching computers isn't a trained instructor in computer science but rather someone who was judged to be the most knowledgeable (IE they know how to set up a table in powerpoint) and with the lightest schedule. The code is open source, why not make the education open source as well. 3. Don't attack windows, attack the quality of education. This is an issue every parent will understand. Talk about the difference between understanding how a computer works vs. being a low wage data entry clerk. (a bit harsh but it will make people listen.) 4. Don't come across as a Linux bigot. Instead come across as a parent who cares about the quality and kind of education that ALL the children in the school recieve. 5. Understand that a budget is a two edged sword, cutting your spending is as deadly as over spending. (you'll get less next year either way) also note that often the budget isn't labeled to buy computer software it's labeled to buy 17 copies of Windows XP, 17 copies of Office XP etc. You need to attack the school board on this one. Be careful, these are often people who are filled with self importance that exceeds even the presidents worth. 6. Visit the RedHat White paper section, grab the data on Total Cost of Ownership and write a white paper outlining the cost efficiency (not necessarily savings) of using Open Source applications, and how even though they aren't Windows they still enable a child to move throughout the world of computers easily and intuitivly. Then present it at a PTA meeting AND a school board meetin. Remembering that being an elected official isn't about being good it's about looking good, and if not doing what you suggest makes them look bad.. they will follow your lead. 7. Be prepared with hard numbers and demo's of educational Linux software in hand. (bring in that notebook) Real killer here is if you do a powerpoint style slide show on Linux. The hs and ahhhs will blow you away. 8. Remember your fighting FUD not fact. The only way you can do that is . You know I heard the same thing, but when I did some research into this I found out that blah blah blah. Oh and here is where you can check it out for yourself. James On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:46:19 -0800 Ken Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree 100%!! I work tech support at a college, and all too often I deal with people who learned win - duh-oh-zzz in k-12 by rote. The primary/secondary school system in our community uses a very different configuration than our college (small community- 1 high school, 1 college). WHen they arrive here, the usual first complaint is This isn't windows! followed by this isn't the windows I learned in school!. If they had been properly taught basic COMPUTER literacy, they could sit down at a Mac, windblows, or linux box, and be productive in minutes. Instead they are taught the Gospel of Bill, by dogmatic and brain dead instructors. Ken Jean-Christophe Berthon wrote: Hello, I think that in this thread, the problem of teaching Windows at school has been misunderstood. I'm disagreeing that professors teach at school about a system of Windows or Linux or anyother. That is NOT the school matter. School has been made to learn students methods. Then, once the student arrive in the real world, he will apply all this generic method and will manage what ever the situation is, the systems or the tools to solve problem or to choose a good solution. Learning how to use a specific software is like learning how to solve a specific mathematical problem. You can throw away that lesson after as in a problem with different parameters (but the same method to slove) you'll NOT be able to solve it. So teaching Windows at school is a bad idea, and also teaching Linux! How to use Windows or Word or Linux or whatever you like should be the personal choice of the student for it's own (nothing to do with school!) After for people who don't have access to technology because of financial problems, the school should be delivering some optional extra Practical Classes, where you could go kind of freely. There, they would be able to get familiar with internet, with a word processing, etc. but they should be trying different ones, see what they would prefer... Which means also to have competent teachers in different systems and softwares. Jean-Christophe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
Mines PS/2... honestly don't have any AT hardware still working... (by the time I left Amiga my first PC was ps/2 and it's continued.) Only problem I had with mechanical was that eventually it killed the ps/2 mouse port on one box. James On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:09:37 -0500 Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are your switches PS/2 style or AT style? I use a mechanical KVM, AT style, and just recently hooked up my first computer that had a PS/2 port for the mouse. I found I had better luck running the mouse into a serial port than the PS/2 port. (I tried PS/2 to AT converters on the input and output of the switch -- it works fine for the keyboard but did not work for the mouse.) I'm just wondering if, when I buy an electronic KVM, I'm better off buying an AT style, using PS/2 to AT converters for the keyboard, and sticking with serial mice? Randy Kramer Charles A Edwards wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:46:23 -0800 (PST) Mike Tracy Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all I've got a logitech trackman marble which works fine no matter how I connect it. My problem is, when I connect it through my kvm switch (linksys 2-port with button on front), my wheel stops working. Is there any kind of workaround for this? Mike I have 3 of the linksys switches and have never had any luck with getting any mice except for generic 2 buttons to work properly when connected through the switch. I can not work prperly unless I can have my Logetech Mouseman Optical so I connect only the monitors and keyboards though the kvm and have a seperate mouse on each system. Charles --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
X-RebelTech Is Here: http://www.rebeltech.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit but typically, schools (k-12) don't teach how to think. they teach how to regurgitate. it's easier, and the teacher doesn't have to respond constructively to differing opinions due to independant thought. my two cents. moose. ps- i am not trying to ignite a flame war with teaching professionals... ;-) On Wednesday 30 January 2002 08:22, you wrote: On Wednesday 30 January 2002 13:00, you wrote: Hello, I think that in this thread, the problem of teaching Windows at school has been misunderstood. I'm disagreeing that professors teach at school about a system of Windows or Linux or anyother. That is NOT the school matter. School has been made to learn students methods. Then, once the student arrive in the real world, he will apply all this generic method and will manage what ever the situation is, the systems or the tools to solve problem or to choose a good solution. Learning how to use a specific software is like learning how to solve a specific mathematical problem. You can throw away that lesson after as in a problem with different parameters (but the same method to slove) you'll NOT be able to solve it. So teaching Windows at school is a bad idea, and also teaching Linux! How to use Windows or Word or Linux or whatever you like should be the personal choice of the student for it's own (nothing to do with school!) After for people who don't have access to technology because of financial problems, the school should be delivering some optional extra Practical Classes, where you could go kind of freely. There, they would be able to get familiar with internet, with a word processing, etc. but they should be trying different ones, see what they would prefer... Which means also to have competent teachers in different systems and softwares. Jean-Christophe Point taken! It's all about freedom of choice. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ati versus nvidia graphics adapters
reading the recent thread on nvidia closed source i have a question: given that for all but the most hard core gamers the difference between the top of the range cards of both manufacturers is probably irrrelevant now that ati have this latest 8500 thingy, what is the status of support for the latest ati cards, at some point i shall move on from my nvidia tnt2ultra and perhaps ati will be the more sensible move? bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Case links - thanks!
Sorry it's taken so long to say so, but thanks to everyone for providing the links to Lian-Li and other cases. Ric, you were almost right: Even if I took *both* checkbooks (mine *and* my wife's), I couldn't spring for one of those things. Yikes! They sure are fine, though. Thanks again, everyone! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What firewall to use in MDK 8.1
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:31:58 -0500 David Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: thanks, but that didn't seem to make any difference. for what ever reason iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport -i ppp0 -j DROP doesn't make any difference. port 139 remains open to the outer interface. Just checking, ppp0 is your external i/face? Dave. that is correct. outer interface = ppp0 local interface = eth0 -- daRcmaTTeR - Registered Linux User 182496 - 6:05pm up 24 days, 8:37, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.04, 0.03 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 22:10, you wrote: Alright let me ask you this, are your kids going to grow up to work in the IT field? Are they going to be programmers or system administrators or network engineers? If not then what does it matter what OS is used in their schools? If they grow up to be doctors or lawyers or singers or social workers where is the relevance of OS concerned? Let's do a relay here:) My children are: 6, 8 and (almost)12 and thankfully I don't have a clue what they are going to be or I want them to be. I just want them to have every oportunity they can get. -Freedom of choice!- and not a disguised straightjacket which M$windows and a lot more in modern society is. And of course my children can boot and work Linux, they take to that easier than I did and I saw to it that they would. Lucky them! But there are more kids out there who need a hand. -- Good Luck, Harm Bathoorn. Sudden Death!! Microsoft Office demands it's serial-code AGAIN!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailserver and dhcp
OK now the rubber hits the road. I have registered a domain name through eNameCo.com. What is the next step here? Prior to this I was playing around on a protected network just trying to get tinydns working, now I would really like it to work but so far it hasn't. Are you (James) using tinydns? If so...there seems to be problems. I built and installed it fine, followed the slightly broken instructions on the djbdns website but tinydns just isn't doing its job. For instance, it explains how to install it and then link its /etc/tinydns directory to /service. Fine, did it. Then it calls for running svscan on /service. Fine, did it. Problem arises here...syslog fills with a bunch of: supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist This is inspite of following the directions and building and installing tinydns without problem. I have tried adding: search my domainname nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 155.101.152.159 In combination, alone, in different orders, followed by my dhcp-supplied nameservers. Am I missing something? I have tried creating a local dnscache to no avail, tried changing my hostname to no avail (as usual it wrecks connectivity, breaking all X connections, etc), tried adding aliases to my dns cdb. Between the errors above and everything else, my system and tinydns is simply not acting as a dns of any kind, local or no. I've gone over the tinydns/djbdns instructions and I have not varied from them except where they are broken (like if you do as the instructions say and create a symlink from /etc/tinydns to /services you will NOT get a /services/tinydns/root, you will get a /services/root). This bastard just ain't workin. I'd appreciate some more pointers for a novice here. On Wednesday 30 January 2002 02:23 pm, James wrote: Praedor ont eh postfix side I don't know. But on the dns side what I do is add the REAL ip number of my box to etc/resolv.conf as one of the nameservers (keeping the secondary as one I don't control keeps me alive if dns changes) Then try pinging your box by domain name from your box. If you can, dns is resolving locally. James On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:33:29 -0700 Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks...I have postfix running, I have tinydns built and installed, and I downloaded dhcp-dns from freshmeat. I've edited resolve.conf to place 127.0.0.1 at the top and I've followed the instructions that came from the djbdns site (tinydns) but I see no indication at all that tinydns is actually doing anything. The instructions: 1. Use tinydns-conf to configure tinydns on 1.2.3.4: tinydns-conf tinydns dnslog /etc/tinydns 1.2.3.4 (of course, substituting my real ip) 2. Tell svscan about the service: ln -s /etc/tinydns /service 3. Now tell tinydns to answer questions about my domain name and 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa domains and to advertise 1.2.3.5 as the DNS server (I tried 127.0.0.1 and then my ip address here without result): cd /service/root ./add-ns my domain 1.2.3.5 ./add-ns 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa 1.2.3.5 make 4. I then told it about my mailserver: cd /service/root ./add-mx my domain 1.2.3.4 make Now when I svscan runs, it produces a lot of errors on one directory in /service: supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist... and queries do not go through my tinydns at all. I see no error messages in my logs anywhere. Any pointers or corrections? To publish my dns so my mailserver will really work, do I use 127.0.0.1 or my actual IP address, or do I produce an alias/virtual IP (or something)? On Tuesday 29 January 2002 07:02 pm, J. Craig Woods wrote: Praedor
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
M$ charges a premium. Schools get screwed even if they receive DONATED computers if they have M$ on them. Many schools are also on a tight and shrinking budget. Why oh WHY have them waste money on M$ software when they could do everything they really need to do on NON-M$ software? They could receive old computer donations and they would gain new, useful cheap life with linux or other freeos on them. They could still do wordprocessing, web browsing/research, plus a LOT more for pennies instead of hundreds and even thousands of dollars plus the threat from visits by jack-booted M$ license thugs. The school could buy ONE boxed distro and stick it on as many computers, new or used, as they wish. The saved money could then go into supplies like up-to-date books! The students wouldn't start out with an M$ brainwashing that makes most people think that PC = M$ (no it does NOT!). The school wouldn't be helping to feed a CLEARLY illegal monopoly (the courts ALL agree on the illegality here) with future braindeads...the students would actually know in their guts that there IS more computers, the internet, technology than M$. That is a good thing(tm). On Wednesday 30 January 2002 04:17 pm, Harm Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 30 January 2002 22:10, you wrote: Alright let me ask you this, are your kids going to grow up to work in the IT field? Are they going to be programmers or system administrators or network engineers? If not then what does it matter what OS is used in their schools? If they grow up to be doctors or lawyers or singers or social workers where is the relevance of OS concerned? Let's do a relay here:) My children are: 6, 8 and (almost)12 and thankfully I don't have a clue what they are going to be or I want them to be. I just want them to have every oportunity they can get. -Freedom of choice!- and not a disguised straightjacket which M$windows and a lot more in modern society is. And of course my children can boot and work Linux, they take to that easier than I did and I saw to it that they would. Lucky them! But there are more kids out there who need a hand. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
11:36am... Charles A Edwards carefully chose these words: Hey all I've got a logitech trackman marble which works fine no matter how I connect it. My problem is, when I connect it through my kvm switch (linksys 2-port with button on front), my wheel stops working. Is there any kind of workaround for this? Mike I have 3 of the linksys switches and have never had any luck with getting any mice except for generic 2 buttons to work properly when connected through the switch. I can not work prperly unless I can have my Logetech Mouseman Optical so I connect only the monitors and keyboards though the kvm and have a seperate mouse on each system. Charles Yeah, I sorta figured that would be the answer :( It's not that big a deal I guess - I can live without the wheel. I really thought the kvm was supposed to be transparent though. Thanks everyone! Mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
10:46am... James carefully chose these words: (the only problem is grabbing the wrong mouse and wondering where my pointer went.) James lol... I could see this being a problem! Mike -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailserver and dhcp
Hi Praedor, On Wed, 30 Jan, at 16:36:14 -0700, Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said: supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start env/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start root/run: file does not exist So do a ls on /service/tinydns/run and /service/tinydns/root/run Do those files *really* exist? I've experienced this same problem when my init script calls for something that isn't actually there. If you've got an init script, you might want to review it and make sure it's calling the right things. This is inspite of following the directions and building and installing tinydns without problem. I have tried adding: search my domainname nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 155.101.152.159 You're not using that just with tinydns are you? If so, that's not what tinydns's purpose in life is. Hope that helps, -Charlie -- GPG Key fingerprint = 4F36 EC4F 2F2C 5F59 9690 09E5 4C0F 9DB0 8623 53CE Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Cooker sources
Is anyone else having problems adding cooker sources to the Software Manager? I keep getting errors midway thru the process. - IRS: We've got what it takes to take what you've got. - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailserver and dhcp
You're not using that just with tinydns are you? If so, that's not what tinydns's purpose in life is. Hope that helps, -Charlie Praedor, Looks like those shortcuts I alluded to in a previous message are not so short. Why don't you do as I suggested, and set up a DNS machine. Bind is very easy to setup and use. I can not help you much with tiny something or other. craig woods -- 2:20pm up 1 day, 3:26, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cooker sources
8:35pm... NDPTAL85 carefully chose these words: Is anyone else having problems adding cooker sources to the Software Manager? I keep getting errors midway thru the process. Same here - thought it was just me! When I first installed mdk8.1, I was able to add cooker sources just fine, but recently I totally ate my installation (a series of gee, I wonder what this would do...) and decided to just do a fresh install - after that, no way to add cooker sources. Does fine until just up to the end and then says it's unable to read a couple of files which it names using extended ascii characters - but jiberish to me. Maybe something in cooker got moved to a different place than expected? Mike - IRS: We've got what it takes to take what you've got. - LOL! NO KIDDING! So much for 'free country' -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What firewall to use in MDK 8.1
daRcmaTTeR wrote: thanks, but that didn't seem to make any difference. for what ever reason iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport -i ppp0 -j DROP doesn't make any difference. port 139 remains open to the outer interface. Just checking, ppp0 is your external i/face? Dave. that is correct. outer interface = ppp0 local interface = eth0 Unless there is something seriously wrong with your firewall implementation or your kernel, the above IPTABLE rule should work. How do you know that your outside UDP port 139 is open (not the inside port 139 for eth0, that might be open)? What kind of check did you do? Are you running any kind of samba or windows netbios? craig woods -- 2:20pm up 1 day, 3:26, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cooker sources
I had problems with URPMI in two versions of MDK [8.0 and 8.1] I cannot make any kind of updates through it. It happened with three different machines and with two differents ways of accesing Internet [dial-up and an ADSL]. I think that URPMI is too buggy for me!! So I suggest you not to use this to update your system - Original Message - From: NDPTAL85 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:35 PM Subject: [expert] Cooker sources Is anyone else having problems adding cooker sources to the Software Manager? I keep getting errors midway thru the process. - IRS: We've got what it takes to take what you've got. - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] email filtering [spamassassin x spamfilter]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Praedor Tempus wrote: It seems good enough! But as I've installed spamassassin... I will give it try! Anyhow I will keep your suggestio! Just in case! ;-) I use ricochet. Me like. It's simple and I simply build kmail filters as they appear required - and then pipe the spam through ricochet. It automatically analyzes the spam email headers, determines if the sending email is likely faked or not, determines the correct abuse address to send to, and then sends a complaint email to the abuse address (the default message is good but you can alter it to your desires). All I ever see is a From nobody email in my inbox that is an alert message from ricochet telling you it responded to spam and who it sent the complaint message to (helps fix broken filters...I once accidently nailed my sister because a poorly formatted filter caught a word in her message that it ID'd as spam...) http://vipul.net/ricochet/ Nice idea for my brother in law! - -- delivery NOT reliable = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxYt2kACgkQqJymTCNNyXHKCwCfYqy8AKmL45LoLBrWF8+WGOzb qfYAn2ivwt8zLYDTMZ2jE/x54nesKAzv =5VHI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 17:23, Michael Holt wrote: Yeah, I sorta figured that would be the answer :( It's not that big a deal I guess - I can live without the wheel. I really thought the kvm was supposed to be transparent though. I think it is transparent, if you buy one of the good switches (raritain(sp)), but who wants to spend $800+ on a KVM for the home. I have two of the Belkin 4 port switches, and I have the same type of problem with my Kensington trackball. Such is life... -- ...Rob = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.com/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World = 8:15pm up 3:37, 2 users, load average: 1.20, 1.40, 1.46 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: [expert] kvm switch
This maybe a bit late on the thread, hope still helps. I have a Linksys electronic KVM switch with Logitech mouse, they work together well with a few catches. First, you have to tell your box it's a standard 3 button wheel mouse. Second, disable gdm (or what the mouse service is called in text mode), if it is not disabled, when you switch between text and X, you will lose your mouse, sometimes even kb. Other then that, I have not have any problem with the switch at all. BTW, it's a PS/2 switch. Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Randy Kramer Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] kvm switch James wrote: Mines PS/2... honestly don't have any AT hardware still working... (by the time I left Amiga my first PC was ps/2 and it's continued.) Only problem I had with mechanical was that eventually it killed the ps/2 mouse port on one box. James, Thanks! Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:10:22 -0500 NDPTAL85 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright let me ask you this, are your kids going to grow up to work in the IT field? Are they going to be programmers or system administrators or network engineers? If not then what does it matter what OS is used in their schools? If they grow up to be doctors or lawyers or singers or social workers where is the relevance of OS concerned? Before this thread dies... :^) In the future... Doctors doing remote operations via any OS that crashes had better have great malpractice insurance... L[aw]yers prosecuting Usama will lose the case due to a Word virus... Singers will be singing the new hit: We are the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... Peace! Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
James, Wonderfully stated!!! Wanna post this on a web site? I'd gladly add a link in my Education links section... Pierre PS: Hoping to find time to read the USAFreedomCorp doc this week... http://usafreedomcorp.gov/usafreedomcorps.pdf On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:18:13 -0800 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would seem to me that the solutions are. 1. Make your voice heard. As a parent your resposibility is your childs education, not the school. The school could be the vehicle you chose to fill your responsiblity but it's not the states duty. Join the PTA, go to school board meetings. Make your voice heard. 2. Volunteer to arrange volunteers to teach computers, maintain computers etc. Quite often the person teaching computers isn't a trained instructor in computer science but rather someone who was judged to be the most knowledgeable (IE they know how to set up a table in powerpoint) and with the lightest schedule. The code is open source, why not make the education open source as well. 3. Don't attack windows, attack the quality of education. This is an issue every parent will understand. Talk about the difference between understanding how a computer works vs. being a low wage data entry clerk. (a bit harsh but it will make people listen.) 4. Don't come across as a Linux bigot. Instead come across as a parent who cares about the quality and kind of education that ALL the children in the school recieve. 5. Understand that a budget is a two edged sword, cutting your spending is as deadly as over spending. (you'll get less next year either way) also note that often the budget isn't labeled to buy computer software it's labeled to buy 17 copies of Windows XP, 17 copies of Office XP etc. You need to attack the school board on this one. Be careful, these are often people who are filled with self importance that exceeds even the presidents worth. 6. Visit the RedHat White paper section, grab the data on Total Cost of Ownership and write a white paper outlining the cost efficiency (not necessarily savings) of using Open Source applications, and how even though they aren't Windows they still enable a child to move throughout the world of computers easily and intuitivly. Then present it at a PTA meeting AND a school board meetin. Remembering that being an elected official isn't about being good it's about looking good, and if not doing what you suggest makes them look bad.. they will follow your lead. 7. Be prepared with hard numbers and demo's of educational Linux software in hand. (bring in that notebook) Real killer here is if you do a powerpoint style slide show on Linux. The hs and ahhhs will blow you away. 8. Remember your fighting FUD not fact. The only way you can do that is . You know I heard the same thing, but when I did some research into this I found out that blah blah blah. Oh and here is where you can check it out for yourself. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
James wrote: Would seem to me that the solutions are. 1. Make your voice heard. As a parent your resposibility is your childs education, not the school. The school could be the vehicle you chose to fill your responsiblity but it's not the states duty. Join the PTA, go to school board meetings. Make your voice heard. 2. Volunteer to arrange volunteers to teach computers, maintain computers etc. Quite often the person teaching computers isn't a trained instructor in computer science but rather someone who was judged to be the most knowledgeable (IE they know how to set up a table in powerpoint) and with the lightest schedule. The code is open source, why not make the education open source as well. 3. Don't attack windows, attack the quality of education. This is an issue every parent will understand. Talk about the difference between understanding how a computer works vs. being a low wage data entry clerk. (a bit harsh but it will make people listen.) 4. Don't come across as a Linux bigot. Instead come across as a parent who cares about the quality and kind of education that ALL the children in the school recieve. 5. Understand that a budget is a two edged sword, cutting your spending is as deadly as over spending. (you'll get less next year either way) also note that often the budget isn't labeled to buy computer software it's labeled to buy 17 copies of Windows XP, 17 copies of Office XP etc. You need to attack the school board on this one. Be careful, these are often people who are filled with self importance that exceeds even the presidents worth. 6. Visit the RedHat White paper section, grab the data on Total Cost of Ownership and write a white paper outlining the cost efficiency (not necessarily savings) of using Open Source applications, and how even though they aren't Windows they still enable a child to move throughout the world of computers easily and intuitivly. Then present it at a PTA meeting AND a school board meetin. Remembering that being an elected official isn't about being good it's about looking good, and if not doing what you suggest makes them look bad.. they will follow your lead. 7. Be prepared with hard numbers and demo's of educational Linux software in hand. (bring in that notebook) Real killer here is if you do a powerpoint style slide show on Linux. The hs and ahhhs will blow you away. 8. Remember your fighting FUD not fact. The only way you can do that is . You know I heard the same thing, but when I did some research into this I found out that blah blah blah. Oh and here is where you can check it out for yourself. James Hello James, Very well said, and I for one agree with you 101%. I would just like to add that the parent can also seek some help from the local LUG. I am sure that the LUG would be only to happy to oblige. This is exactly what is happening over here in Goa. Around 126 schools in what is one of the smallest states in India will now have Linux computers setup for them. This is no small task, but we are confident that we can live up to it. Volunteers from the LUG would also be looking after maintenance and any other help that the schools require. So please do talk it out with you local LUG, decide on what exactly you'll plan to use, keep it simple say kde + koffice, or windowmaker + openoffice for slightly older hardware should do the trick. Also involve the teachers in the LUG meetings, sort out any reservations they may have about linux. Getting to learn (and i'm still learnin) linux is one of the best things that could ever happen to me. It would be really nice if other people esp kids get to have the same amount of fun. And no they don't need to be IT professionals when they grow up, just comfortable and productive with one of the best OS the world has to offer is reward enough. my own 2 paise worth anyway, Thank You, Regards, mario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ati versus nvidia graphics adapters
bascule wrote: reading the recent thread on nvidia closed source i have a question: given that for all but the most hard core gamers the difference between the top of the range cards of both manufacturers is probably irrrelevant now that ati have this latest 8500 thingy, what is the status of support for the latest ati cards, at some point i shall move on from my nvidia tnt2ultra and perhaps ati will be the more sensible move? bascule I know for a fact that the TV in feature of the 8500 works for NTSC, thanks to the efforts put in by the good people at gatos. To be fair to NVIDIA, i don't think ati have been very open themselves. I have an ATI All In Wonder 128 pro, but have never played and 3d games on it. It works fine in X-Windows though, not a single problem. Thank You, Regards, mario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 10:46, James wrote: Ditto here. I can't get my ediMax to work with the mouse on linux or winderz so I'm stuck with a KV switch instead of KVM (the only problem is grabbing the wrong mouse and wondering where my pointer went.) Really seems to be a hardware conflict rather than a software conflict. If anyone has gotten a 3 button or wheel mouse to work please tell me how you did it. I have a 4 port Vastech PS/2 electronic KVM switch I picked up from Onsale.com the other year. Works great with my Logictech FirstMouse excepting that I lose the wheel in Mandrake when I switch to another port; using the wheel then brings up all kinds of menus, etc., instead of scrolling as normal. However, I installed XFree86 4.2 and KDE 2.2.2 in FreeBSD 4.4 today and the wheel continues to work in FreeBSD, even after switching ports. So there is hope. I wonder if XFree86 4.2 in Mandrake will permit continuity in mouse wheel usage with an electronic KVM? fingers crossed -- Cheers, Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] syslog and remote machines
i'm reading 'man syslogd' and it leaves me with two questions regarding receiving syslog messages from other hosts: 1. where do i find the place to append the '-r' switch to enable receiving these remote messages? 2. is it possible to setup /etc/syslog.conf so that messages from specific hosts are dealt with differently than same level messages from other/local host? also given that my ultimate aim is to have any high alert messages from other hosts appear as mail for me on my main workstation is the remote syslog thing the right way to go? bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] kmail addressbook
is there a facility for 'nicknames' in the addressbook, i have looked an can't see it, i can't be the only one who misses being able to type the first few letters of an addy and have it autocomplete netscape style also, is there a way to launch a new message without having the email address of whatever list folder i am in at the moment automatically filled in? i would like to be able to right click on a folder and have the email address filled in for that mailing list,but if i happen to decide to write to someone else it is a pain to have to either select a folder without an associated mail address and open a new message or to have to delete the address, bascule Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kvm switch
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:19, Robert Goshko wrote: On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 17:23, Michael Holt wrote: Yeah, I sorta figured that would be the answer :( It's not that big a deal I guess - I can live without the wheel. I really thought the kvm was supposed to be transparent though. I think it is transparent, if you buy one of the good switches (raritain(sp)), but who wants to spend $800+ on a KVM for the home. I have two of the Belkin 4 port switches, and I have the same type of problem with my Kensington trackball. Such is life... I bought a 4 port for $400 bucks...the internal chipset on the switch was set to two-button ps/2, there was a config option to change it to ps/2 wheelmouse and after I did...I've never had a problem -- Andrew George --- Let us endeavor so to live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. -- Maek Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] small samba issue..
I had similar problems with client locking mechanisms. If you use Webmin to administer your Samba shares: 1)Edit the share 2)Click on the file Permissions button 3)Set the following items - New Unix file mode:0660 - New Unix directory mode: 0770 - Force Unix user: USER - Force Unix group: GROUP - Force Unix file mode: 0660 - Force Unix directory mode: 0770 In the instructions above, replace USER and GROUP with the Linux user and group names you want all of the files to get. These settings will guarantee that all users of the share can read and modify each others files. And you still have security if you use the Valid Users entry under the Security section of the share. Matthew Zaleski Vehicle Dynamics Ford Motor Company -Original Message- From: Franki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] small samba issue.. Hi all, I have a little issue I was hoping someone here had some clues for me with... I have setup samba on a clients network.. 2.2.2a and its working just fine.. I created several publically accesable shares, with totally open permissions.. The idea was that since all users need access to these shares and the files contained within.. (they must have read and write access) I put a myob datafile in one share, and a professional accounting package datafile in the other.. I have the same problem with both files.. the myob file is fine, but myob creates a lock file whenever it is accessed.. and that lock file is being created with the owner and group of the person who started myob first.. then all the other uses can't access that lock file because of permissions and as such it will only allow one user to access it at any time.. (since when myob is closed it removes the lock file and a new one can be created for the new user. The accounting package has the same problem, only one user can use it at the same time.. So my question is this... whats the easiest way to make the lock files written totally world readable to all... and ditto with the account packages datafile... Should I make a new group, and make that group the group of the shares, and make all users that need access to it members of that group? or should I just make a shell script that runs every 5 seconds and makes all the files chmod 777. (which I don't want to do for obvious reasons..) can anyone give me any suggestions here??? thanks guys... rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mailserver and dhcp
Praedor, Don't use tiny DNS either, since I control the DNS for my corporate servers I've (with permission IN WRITING) added DNS for my home box. On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:47:08 -0600 J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're not using that just with tinydns are you? If so, that's not what tinydns's purpose in life is. Hope that helps, -Charlie Praedor, Looks like those shortcuts I alluded to in a previous message are not so short. Why don't you do as I suggested, and set up a DNS machine. Bind is very easy to setup and use. I can not help you much with tiny something or other. craig woods -- 2:20pm up 1 day, 3:26, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] mysql and the disapearing database.
All, Had a strange one today. Using dotproject + mysql for online project management. I ran across, or should I say it ran across me, this problem. I just spent 5 hours entering all of our projects and planned projects, forums etc into the box. Most of the users had signed in. Things where going well. I then moved over to install some bug tracking software got it up and restarted mysql so that the database for the bug traking software would take. My database (for dotproject) reset to where it was BEFORE I started all of this and midway after the last restart I had to do. AAA I hadn't even had time to back it up yet. What I'd like to know is why something like this would happen. (Note some of the retained data was also entered by me so it isn't a user/permissions problem.) I had also checked the validity of the database directly and it all looked good. Until the restart. Restart method: /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql stop /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql start Box is Mandrake 7.1 dutifully updated kernel-2.2.15-4mdksecure apache-1.3.22-1.4mdk MySQL-3.22.32-5.1mdk php-4.0.6-5.1mdk mod_php-4.0.6-5.1mdk Any ideas? (I'm setting up a cron to mirror this database just in case it does it again) James (sitting and whimpering in the corner) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] AAAaaaargh!!! M$madness!!!
hmmm let me think... don't know if I've got one but I should have one to post it too James On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:43:31 -0500 Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, Wonderfully stated!!! Wanna post this on a web site? I'd gladly add a link in my Education links section... Pierre PS: Hoping to find time to read the USAFreedomCorp doc this week... http://usafreedomcorp.gov/usafreedomcorps.pdf On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:18:13 -0800 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would seem to me that the solutions are. 1. Make your voice heard. As a parent your resposibility is your childs education, not the school. The school could be the vehicle you chose to fill your responsiblity but it's not the states duty. Join the PTA, go to school board meetings. Make your voice heard. 2. Volunteer to arrange volunteers to teach computers, maintain computers etc. Quite often the person teaching computers isn't a trained instructor in computer science but rather someone who was judged to be the most knowledgeable (IE they know how to set up a table in powerpoint) and with the lightest schedule. The code is open source, why not make the education open source as well. 3. Don't attack windows, attack the quality of education. This is an issue every parent will understand. Talk about the difference between understanding how a computer works vs. being a low wage data entry clerk. (a bit harsh but it will make people listen.) 4. Don't come across as a Linux bigot. Instead come across as a parent who cares about the quality and kind of education that ALL the children in the school recieve. 5. Understand that a budget is a two edged sword, cutting your spending is as deadly as over spending. (you'll get less next year either way) also note that often the budget isn't labeled to buy computer software it's labeled to buy 17 copies of Windows XP, 17 copies of Office XP etc. You need to attack the school board on this one. Be careful, these are often people who are filled with self importance that exceeds even the presidents worth. 6. Visit the RedHat White paper section, grab the data on Total Cost of Ownership and write a white paper outlining the cost efficiency (not necessarily savings) of using Open Source applications, and how even though they aren't Windows they still enable a child to move throughout the world of computers easily and intuitivly. Then present it at a PTA meeting AND a school board meetin. Remembering that being an elected official isn't about being good it's about looking good, and if not doing what you suggest makes them look bad.. they will follow your lead. 7. Be prepared with hard numbers and demo's of educational Linux software in hand. (bring in that notebook) Real killer here is if you do a powerpoint style slide show on Linux. The hs and ahhhs will blow you away. 8. Remember your fighting FUD not fact. The only way you can do that is . You know I heard the same thing, but when I did some research into this I found out that blah blah blah. Oh and here is where you can check it out for yourself. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
