Re: [expert] sed and special characters

2002-04-02 Thread James



I've used 
sed -e 's/the\/original\/file\/stirng/the\/new\/file\/string/g'
/the/location/to/write/the/file   successfully.

James

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:38:54 -0500
Kyle McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote and hopefully I read
right:

> If the '/' is what is giving you problems then write your sed line
with
> something else. It is setup to use pretty much any character after
the 's'
> 
> 
> This example uses @ instead, I've also seen % used. but pretty
much
> anything will work:
> 
> sed -e 's@a_pattern@anotherpattern'$ENV_VAR'@' myfile.txt
> 
>   -Kyle
> 
> 
> Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote:
> 
> > Hi List,
> > 
> > I'm trying to:
> > sed -e 's/a_pattern/another_pattern'$A_ENV_VAR'/' myfile.txt
> > 
> > if my $A_ENV_VAR has no special character 'sed' works, however
if it has
> > special character (like a full path name:
A_ENV_VAR=/usr/local/temp) 'sed'
> > doesn't work.
> > How could I overcome this problem?
> > 
> > Many thanks in advance.
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Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for the filesystem

2002-04-02 Thread James

Lyvim,
  100% correct on all accounts.  One extra point... Some people
cant/don't discharge through static band correctly.  (about 1 out of
a 1000)  High natural levels of static.  Make sure that the wrist
band is on with the metal tab connecting to the bottom of your wrist
not the top as hair will form enough of an insulator to make it
useless have it about 2 to 3 inches up from the wrist so that when
you bend the wrist it doesn't lose contact. 

James


On 30 Mar 2002 13:27:46 -0500
Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote and hopefully I read right:

> One other point to make.  There are also many wierdisms that are
caused
> by something professional techs call "static wounding."  This
occurs
> when a sensitive high density IC chip (or a single discrete
transistor
> for that matter) passes through a static field.  It also occurs
when a
> non static-protected person opens a sealed static bag and touches
the
> components inside.  Static sparks jumping from the person to the
> component are also a sure sign that you don't need to waste your
time;
> go ahead and throw the component/device away.
> 
> What happens is that a moving static field (like the one that's on
your
> body 90% of the time if you're not grounded) passes through the IC
> device, which induces voltage in the microscopic conductive
traces. 
> This can cause the energy thus generated to jump a nonconductor
gap
> across to the next nearest tracer.  This leaves a valley in the
> nonconductor "wall" between the tracers, offtimes seeded with
vaporized
> tracer material.  Contgrats; with no prior experience, skill or
intel
> fab plant, you just created you own tracer.  That's right; you're
just
> that good.
> 
> 
> The correct procedure to follow when you are working on your
computer is
> to wear a static wrist band, and to keep your computer components
away
> from nonconductor surfaces.  (read: carpet).  Anti static spray is
not
> reliable.  Static wrist bands are available from your local Radio
> Shack.  To avoid electronic mea culpa and endless firehose
quantities of
> frustration, I recommend that anyone working on a peripheral or
mobo
> wear a grounded static wrist band until the box is closed up. 
Touching
> the case is not totally reliable, since you can generate several
> thousand invisible static volts just by raising your arm, if you
have
> any sort of synthetic garment on.  In other words your static
shadow
> just regenerates in short order.
> 
> 
> I'd venture to say that from what Ive seen, about 80% of all
RMA's,
> marginal functionality, failures, and most frustrations several
months
> after installation are due totally to improper handling. Read:
> Laziness.  The problem is rampant (and I mean RAMPANT) in mom-pop
> computer shops.  BEWARE of these.  Next time you walk into your
local
> computer store, go straight to the back without warning and
surprise the
> techs; specifically, see if they have their wristbands on when
servicing
> customer's equipment.  I've got money that says they won't have
them on.
> 
> Typically I try to order my mobos from high volume internet shops
on the
> pacific coast so I can get the mobo right after it comes off the
ship. 
> I never trust one that's been handled by anyone other than me;
that
> keeps me from having to worry about looking backwards.  I always
know
> that my problem is somewhere ahead of me.  If that makes any
sense. 
> This goes for peripherals, too.  I've got a few suppliers that I
trust.
> 
> 
> As I said above, the requirement for static wounding only involves
a
> static field; this implies that you do NOT have to touch a
component in
> order to damage it.  All you have to do is pass your hand near the
> component.  This is why static bags are there, and this is what
they
> prevent; they stop not just touch, but static fields as well.
> 
> Synopsis of above soapbox/wooden nickel contribution:  Correct
procedure
> for computer service work is to wear a grounded static wrist band.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> LX
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Re: [expert] KDE screen Saver Location

2002-04-02 Thread Ric Tibbetts

[ric@darkstar ric]$ locate xflame
/usr/share/control-center/screensavers/xflame.xml
/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/xflame
/usr/X11R6/man/man1/xflame.1.bz2

Hint: It;s not the .xml, or th e.bz2 file. ;)
All of the xscreensaver executables are located in
/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver

However, it's a full executable. I'm not sure that KDE will run it. I
may be wrong, but I believe that the kde screensavers are a specific
file format, read by a screensaver program in kde.

Not the case with xscreensaver. 
What I did a while back was to turn off the kde screensaver, and add a
section to the "startkde" script to execute xscreensaver when it was
started. Thus, I had xscreensaver running inside of kde.

That was a couple of years ago though. I'm running gnome these days, so
I'd have to research a bit to figure out the specifics again.

Hope that helps.

Ric

On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 17:36, Ken Thompson wrote:
> I'd like to use X-Flame screen saver in KDE but for the life of me I can't 
> find where the files are stored so they can be found in the KDE ControlCenter.
> Anybody else put Xscreensaver files in KDE?
> Gnome shows all the Xscreensaver files, H..
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Re: Fwd: Re: [expert] /bin/cat initiated by kwrited in KDE

2002-04-02 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 09:23, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote:
>  Paging civileme, Vincent Danen and other
> mandrakesoft cool and gorgeous guys ;)  
> 
> may i know what is the status of this? dont want to be
> so nosey but its really irritating to have a /bin/cat
> running on your mandrake+kde system ... and not see
> the same process on other distros like rh or
> slackware. 

Diane,

I would love to help you, but even though I also have a mandrake+kde
system (81), I can't replicate you problem...that's why I haven't
responded before now.  But I can tell it's irritating you, so I thought
I'd at least let you know I've seen you frustration. ;)

My wooden nickel:  It looks like an anomaly resulting from some
kde-related rpm installs, after the initial distro install.  I'm making
a self-educated guess here.  Has there been KDE rpm activity since the
initial distro install?


Cheers,

LX

 
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Re: [expert] live_update in 8.2

2002-04-02 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 20:28, Bill Wagner wrote:
> 
> I've got a remote production 8.0 box that I'd like to upgrade to 8.2 but I'm
> quite reluctant to touch.  To do a test run, I've got an 8.0 vmware install
> locally, but when I run live_update, I run into all kinds of errors.  Here's
> what I get:

Bill, you're headed into a rat's nest.  I'd recommend doing a fresh
install with data migration.

I've had to do this in the past.  Back in the days when they actually
taught you how to think instead of what to think, we were taught to
never, ever take a production system offline for replacement.  The
correct "war games" scenario is to duplicate (parallel) you hardware (or
functionality) in another box for the purpose of housing the new distro
installation. This is so that you can get your drivers in place
correctly and in identical fashion, then do a data/configuration
migration across the net to this duplicate box without gaining a bunch
of downtime.  Hardware is real cheap these days in comparison to the
cost of downtime or your job.

Anyways, you test the new box to make sure it's duplicating the
functionality of the old box perfectly.  Then, after a final data
update, you switch.  With the legwork already done, your downtime could
be less than 1 minute.

The real beauty part is that you keep the old box around in case
something flubs with the new box; at least for a few weeks or so, or
however long it takes for you to feel comfortable.  The old box is your
backup/insurance in case the new install freaks.

You mess with a production box and no backup, you asking for trouble. 
Plus you mess with production box and the "upgrade" approach, and you
REALLY asking for it.  I recommend the "war games" scenario above,
adapted to a plan of your own that will CYA.
 

Good luck,

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Re: [expert] KDE screen Saver Location

2002-04-02 Thread Jonathan Dlouhy

On Tuesday 02 April 2002 01:17 am, you wrote:
> [ric@darkstar ric]$ locate xflame
> /usr/share/control-center/screensavers/xflame.xml
> /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/xflame
> /usr/X11R6/man/man1/xflame.1.bz2
>
> Hint: It;s not the .xml, or th e.bz2 file. ;)
> All of the xscreensaver executables are located in
> /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver
>
> However, it's a full executable. I'm not sure that KDE will run it. I
> may be wrong, but I believe that the kde screensavers are a specific
> file format, read by a screensaver program in kde.
>
> Not the case with xscreensaver.
> What I did a while back was to turn off the kde screensaver, and add
> a section to the "startkde" script to execute xscreensaver when it
> was started. Thus, I had xscreensaver running inside of kde.
>
> That was a couple of years ago though. I'm running gnome these days,
> so I'd have to research a bit to figure out the specifics again.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Ric
>
> On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 17:36, Ken Thompson wrote:
> > I'd like to use X-Flame screen saver in KDE but for the life of me
> > I can't find where the files are stored so they can be found in the
> > KDE ControlCenter. Anybody else put Xscreensaver files in KDE?
> > Gnome shows all the Xscreensaver files, H..
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> >
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I'm also interested in this. My favorite screensaver, the BSOD, isn't 
available in the KDE screensaver setup. As mentioned above, the full 
executable, "bsod" is in the /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/ directory. Is 
there a way to use these screensavers?
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Re: [expert] Which is better choice ext3 or reiserfs for thefilesystem

2002-04-02 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 03:03, James wrote:

> Lyvim,
>   100% correct on all accounts.  One extra point... Some people
> cant/don't discharge through static band correctly.  (about 1 out of
> a 1000)  High natural levels of static.  Make sure that the wrist
> band is on with the metal tab connecting to the bottom of your wrist
> not the top as hair will form enough of an insulator to make it
> useless have it about 2 to 3 inches up from the wrist so that when
> you bend the wrist it doesn't lose contact. 
> 
> James
 
Thanks James!  Sometimes I wonder if anyone reads this stuff. ;)  You've
made my night. :)

And there's something else I like about this list; there's always
somebody out there that has a leg up that you don't have; for instance,
I've added your knowledge above to my own.  The hairy angle was
something I hadn't considered!


Cheers,

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[expert] Mandrake 8.2 problem with gui "over all very nice job done"

2002-04-02 Thread faisal gillani

Well i must say mandrake 8.2 very nice job done but i
have this problem with my display as i am getting this
small lines on my screen , lines like when you see
when there is a power outage or fluctuation .. what
can be wrong ? my pc hardware is ok as i also have
win2000 on same pc but no problems there ..
apart from this mandrake 8.2 "bluebird" a very very
nice job indeed ..


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Re: [expert] KDE screen Saver Location

2002-04-02 Thread Ric Tibbetts

xscreensaver/kde integration 102

Sorry, I left off a piece on that last answer.

If you fire up xscreensaver from startkde, it will by default cycle
through al of them, at preselected intervals. You can pick a single one
by running "xscreensaver-demo", and configuring it from there. Just shut
off all the ones you don't want. 

For more info, try:  "man xscreensaver".

Chiao!

Ric

On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 17:36, Ken Thompson wrote:
> I'd like to use X-Flame screen saver in KDE but for the life of me I can't 
> find where the files are stored so they can be found in the KDE ControlCenter.
> Anybody else put Xscreensaver files in KDE?
> Gnome shows all the Xscreensaver files, H..
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Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.2 problem with gui "over all very nice job done"

2002-04-02 Thread Wim

I had the same problem...
I tried the X-Free 4.2.2 with 3D Hardware support... problem solved.

faisal gillani wrote:

>Well i must say mandrake 8.2 very nice job done but i
>have this problem with my display as i am getting this
>small lines on my screen , lines like when you see
>when there is a power outage or fluctuation .. what
>can be wrong ? my pc hardware is ok as i also have
>win2000 on same pc but no problems there ..
>apart from this mandrake 8.2 "bluebird" a very very
>nice job indeed ..
>
>
>take care
>faisal
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Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]

2002-04-02 Thread James

Well it looks like the working stiff of the US has someone in
Washington that believes we aren't all theives.  Senator Leheay of
Vermont THE man such a bill must satisfy to even make it to the
floor.  Has said point blank... not this season it won't.  However
remember one thing for the people in CA  Feinstien was the
co-sponsor!!! Remember come November.

James


On 30 Mar 2002 08:27:58 -0500
Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote and hopefully I read right:

> On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 03:56, James wrote:
> 
> > To give everyone a quicker way of finding your reps go to
> > http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ziptoit.html  A service
provided
> > by the US mail. It will find them and give you links out to
contact
> > them. 
> > 
> > James
>  
> Thanks, James!  I needed that.  I'm working on this stuff today. 
You
> must have esp or something...
> 
> :)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LX
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Re: Fwd: Re: [expert] /bin/cat initiated by kwrited in KDE

2002-04-02 Thread Dianne Marie Montesa

heya, 

--- Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 09:23, Dianne Marie Montesa
> wrote:
> >  Paging civileme, Vincent Danen and other
> > mandrakesoft cool and gorgeous guys ;) 
> 
> > 
> > may i know what is the status of this? dont want
> to be
> > so nosey but its really irritating to have a
> /bin/cat
> > running on your mandrake+kde system ... and not
> see
> > the same process on other distros like rh or
> > slackware. 
> 
> Diane,
> 
> I would love to help you, but even though I also
> have a mandrake+kde
> system (81), I can't replicate you problem...that's
> why I haven't
> responded before now.  

there is really nothing special about my installation.
its using the mandrake kernel that came with mandrake
8.1 and its booting on init level 5 (gui login).
everything is off the CD ... after my clean install, i
have updated only the packages listed on the 8.1
updates (not including the kernel).  the updates list 
doesnt include KDE updates. 

hmmm, are you saying you dont see /bin/cat on your
opened processes? how do you start kde? ... thru
startx? 

> But I can tell it's
> irritating you, so I thought
> I'd at least let you know I've seen you frustration.
> ;)

oh its not really irritating me ... :-) its just
making me pull 3 strands of my hair everytime i do a
'ps ax' and sees it  :-P   

> My wooden nickel:  It looks like an anomaly
> resulting from some
> kde-related rpm installs, after the initial distro
> install.  I'm making
> a self-educated guess here.  Has there been KDE rpm
> activity since the
> initial distro install?

nope, none that i know of ... i will be installing 8.2
on a different machine today. if i dont see it
(/bin/cat) on the processes initiated, ill just
upgrade and "forever hold my piece" about this issue
;)

ciao,
dianne (btw 2 Ns) :-P

> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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[expert] draknet -> isdn

2002-04-02 Thread messmate

Hello all,
I've very serious troubles to connect with isdn.
Running mdk 8.1 on a workstation without a local network.I've tryed isdn-light and 
isdn4, no connection.
Draknet give me this troubles I think !
Here are the error messages :
Configuring IP device ippp0  -->   ippp0 0.0.0.0 pointopoint 0.0.0.0 -arp -broadcast
SIOCSIFDSTADDR: Cannot assign requested address
Any help would be very appreciated.
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[expert] Open Office problems

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Williamson

Hi Everyone,

Checking out Open Office that is included with the Mandrake Linux..  had
major problems getting the Open Office up and running, This was mainly
through font issues...   The problem was that i has a few extra fonts
installed, when trying to execute the command oowrite or ooffice  from a
Xterm windows would give me a message "Aborted"..   I worked out what
was going on, the ooffice command is just a wrapper script..  I modified
the ooffice  script to exclude some of the font paths until the Open
Office started..   I am not sure if anyone else has noticed these sort
of problems with the Open Office...

Does the spell check work for anyone in the OpenOffice? It does not work
for me.

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Re: [expert] Open Office problems

2002-04-02 Thread Dave Sherman

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 06:36, Mark Williamson wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Checking out Open Office that is included with the Mandrake Linux..  had
> major problems getting the Open Office up and running, This was mainly
> through font issues...   The problem was that i has a few extra fonts
> installed, when trying to execute the command oowrite or ooffice  from a
> Xterm windows would give me a message "Aborted"..   I worked out what
> was going on, the ooffice command is just a wrapper script..  I modified
> the ooffice  script to exclude some of the font paths until the Open
> Office started..   I am not sure if anyone else has noticed these sort
> of problems with the Open Office...
> 
> Does the spell check work for anyone in the OpenOffice? It does not work
> for me.

Never ran into the font problem before, but I only have a few (less than
10) imported TT fonts. The spell checker works fine for me.

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2002-04-02 Thread David Guntner

David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> 
> To your /etc/postfix/main.cf file, add:
> 
> header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks
> 
> Then, create a /etc/postfix/header_checks file, and in it, place:
> 
> /powerfulporn.com/ 551 DON'T WANT SPAM

Sorry, I think that should have actually been:

/powerfulporn/com/ REJECT DON'T WANT SPAM

(or whatever text is that you want for the "don't want spam" part is).

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2002-04-02 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 05:05:38 -0800 "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > 
> > To your /etc/postfix/main.cf file, add:
> > 
> > header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks
> > 
> > Then, create a /etc/postfix/header_checks file, and in it, place:
> > 
> > /powerfulporn.com/ 551 DON'T WANT SPAM
 ^
> Sorry, I think that should have actually been:
> 
> /powerfulporn/com/ REJECT DON'T WANT SPAM
   ^
I think you meant:
  /powerfulporn\.com/ 
   ^^
> (or whatever text is that you want for the "don't want spam" part is).

Actually, it's either:
  /match/ REJECT text
  /match/ [45]XX text

Note that some UCE controls do not take "text" with REJECT... See
http://www.postfix.org/uce.html

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[expert] Wizard Documentation?

2002-04-02 Thread Jeremy Mereness


How can I find out what the various "wizards" in Mandrake 8.2 do?

I can't find any documentation on 8.2 at Mandrake's web site. I'd like
to know what files are modified by any given wizard.

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[expert] bootable CD

2002-04-02 Thread Mike Rambo

Maybe I'm just dense but how the heck do you create a
bootable CD these days. I'm need to make a bootable restore
CD for our public safety department. I want to put their
computer hard drive image on it and have it boot from the CD
and start imaging  automatically. I have the hard drive
image file. I have the boot floppy image. I can't get it all
onto a CD successfully. I now have two coasters which have a
perfect copy of the hard drive image file but the stinking
CD's won't boot. The computer boots from other CD's just
fine.

I'm using a 8.1 system now and have tried xcdroast,
eroaster, gcombust, and mkisofs from the CLI to no avail.
All of them complain that they can't find either the boot
image or the boot.catalog file. I have tried placing the
floppy image everywhere I can think of and it has
permissions that would allow everyone from Charles Manson to
the Pope to read it. This is frustrating because my old
system (7.1) with kisocd just worked by giving it a file
name and location. Unfortunately kisocd is no longer
supported it would appear.

README.eltorito says that the boot.catalog file will be
automatically created but doesn't say where. It also speaks
of the boot image but doesn't say where it needs to be.
Absolute paths don't find it which is totally confusing. The
CD-writing howto on LDP just points to the README.eltorito
file included with mkisofs.

What is the magic step here to make this work?

Thanks.


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Re: Fwd: Re: [expert] /bin/cat initiated by kwrited in KDE

2002-04-02 Thread J. Craig Woods

Dianne Marie Montesa wrote:
> 
> 
> nope, none that i know of ... i will be installing 8.2
> on a different machine today. if i dont see it
> (/bin/cat) on the processes initiated, ill just
> upgrade and "forever hold my piece" about this issue
> ;)
> 
> ciao,
> dianne (btw 2 Ns) :-P
> 

Do not hold your breath, Countess, because you will find the "cat"
skulking about in 8.2 also.

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[expert] Annoying Problem while X running (mdk 8.2)

2002-04-02 Thread Tessone, Claudio Juan

Hi all!

  Yesterday night I installed Linux Mandrake 8.2 from the scratch.
Until that point I was using 8.1 painlessly.

  I have a SiS 620 onboard video card and since mdk 7.1 I didn't
experienced problems before (except for some small troubles while
configuring, but due to my own )

  Well, this time I installed XFree 4.2.2 but below the mouse pointer
(lets say 50 pixels below it) almost all the time I see two lines (about
30 or 40 pixels long) sometimes white, sometimes of other colors. In the
login screen I discovered that when I write, there appears  black point
on the mouse-following-lines.

  Sometimes, when I move the mouse pointer yo the bottom of the
screen, and then move it to the center of the screen, the lines dissapear.
But after a while, Uou they are there again!


  I'm clueless. I've tried reconfiguring the card with all possible
combinations (using XFDrake), but I didn't try to edit by hand the
configuration files, yet.

  What may be happening???

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Re: [expert] Annoying Problem while X running (mdk 8.2)

2002-04-02 Thread kwan

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Tessone, Claudio Juan wrote:

> Hi all!
>
>   Yesterday night I installed Linux Mandrake 8.2 from the scratch.
> Until that point I was using 8.1 painlessly.
>
>   I have a SiS 620 onboard video card and since mdk 7.1 I didn't
> experienced problems before (except for some small troubles while
> configuring, but due to my own )
>
>   Well, this time I installed XFree 4.2.2 but below the mouse pointer
> (lets say 50 pixels below it) almost all the time I see two lines (about
> 30 or 40 pixels long) sometimes white, sometimes of other colors. In the
> login screen I discovered that when I write, there appears  black point
> on the mouse-following-lines.
>
Do you have the memory explicitly specified in the XF86Config-4 file?
Look for a "VideoRam" line and see what it says.





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Re: [expert] bootable CD

2002-04-02 Thread jipe

On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 08:23:06 -0500
Mike Rambo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Maybe I'm just dense but how the heck do you create a
> bootable CD these days. I'm need to make a bootable restore
> CD for our public safety department. I want to put their
> computer hard drive image on it and have it boot from the CD
> and start imaging  automatically. I have the hard drive
> image file. I have the boot floppy image. I can't get it all
> onto a CD successfully. I now have two coasters which have a
> perfect copy of the hard drive image file but the stinking
> CD's won't boot. The computer boots from other CD's just
> fine.
> 
> I'm using a 8.1 system now and have tried xcdroast,
> eroaster, gcombust, and mkisofs from the CLI to no avail.
> All of them complain that they can't find either the boot
> image or the boot.catalog file. I have tried placing the
> floppy image everywhere I can think of and it has
> permissions that would allow everyone from Charles Manson to
> the Pope to read it. This is frustrating because my old
> system (7.1) with kisocd just worked by giving it a file
> name and location. Unfortunately kisocd is no longer
> supported it would appear.
> 
> README.eltorito says that the boot.catalog file will be
> automatically created but doesn't say where. It also speaks
> of the boot image but doesn't say where it needs to be.
> Absolute paths don't find it which is totally confusing. The
> CD-writing howto on LDP just points to the README.eltorito
> file included with mkisofs.
> 
> What is the magic step here to make this work?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mike Rambo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>

i assume that the files and directories from which to create your iso image are in a 
directory named to_be_burnt. and you're creating an iso image in ~/burn

first:
create iso image like this
cd to_be_burnt 
mkisofs -v -r -T -J -pad -b boot_image -c boot.catalog -o ~/burn/image.iso .

then
cd ~/burn
cdrecord -v speed=? dev=?,?,? image.iso

replace ? with appropriate values
boot_image is the image from which the cd will boot. it has to be in the cd! give the 
path from where you're creating iso.

bye
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Re: [expert] bootable CD

2002-04-02 Thread Mike Rambo

jipe wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 08:23:06 -0500
> Mike Rambo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Maybe I'm just dense but how the heck do you create a
> > bootable CD these days. 
> 
> i assume that the files and directories from which to create your iso image are in a 
>directory named to_be_burnt. and you're creating an iso image in ~/burn
> 
> first:
> create iso image like this
> cd to_be_burnt
> mkisofs -v -r -T -J -pad -b boot_image -c boot.catalog -o ~/burn/image.iso .
> 
> then
> cd ~/burn
> cdrecord -v speed=? dev=?,?,? image.iso
> 
> replace ? with appropriate values
> boot_image is the image from which the cd will boot. it has to be in the cd! give 
>the path from where you're creating iso.
> 
> bye
> jipe
> 


Yep. I had just figured this out when your email came
through. I had tried to set it aside for awhile until
someone told me what I was doing wrong but it drove me crazy
with it sitting on the floor so I had to pull it back up and
figure it out. Basically the key was that the boot image has
to be in the same directory as the rest of the stuff that
was recorded on the CD. I don't believe I had to do this on
my old 7.1 box with kisocd - that package must have handled
all that stuff in the background. In any case, it's all
working now.

Thanks.


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[expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread Joe Sotham

David Relson writes: 

> Greetings, 
> 
> I've looked at linuxconf and webmin and they both seem to be graphical 
> system administration tools.  It seems that either one could be used for 
> the job and having both installed seems like a duplication of tools and a 
> waste of disk space.  Do people of the list agree with these thoughts?  
> Have y'all a preference for one tool or the other?  Why? 
> 
> Thank you. 
> 
> David 
> 
> 

Isn't the better question "which tool meets your needs?"  I personally have 
stopped worrying about 10MB disk space here and there.  The last time I went 
to buy a disk the economical price range was the 40GB size  so really, 
who cares about a few MB here and there. 

btw I use linuxconf 


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Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.2 problem with gui "over all very nice job done"

2002-04-02 Thread faisal gillani

can you give me a little guidness on how to do it ?


thanks
Faisal
--- Wim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had the same problem...
> I tried the X-Free 4.2.2 with 3D Hardware support...
> problem solved.
> 
> faisal gillani wrote:
> 
> >Well i must say mandrake 8.2 very nice job done but
> i
> >have this problem with my display as i am getting
> this
> >small lines on my screen , lines like when you see
> >when there is a power outage or fluctuation .. what
> >can be wrong ? my pc hardware is ok as i also have
> >win2000 on same pc but no problems there ..
> >apart from this mandrake 8.2 "bluebird" a very very
> >nice job indeed ..
> >
> >
> >take care
> >faisal
> >
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> >
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Re: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread J. Craig Woods

Joe Sotham wrote:
> 
> David Relson writes:
> 
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I've looked at linuxconf and webmin and they both seem to be graphical
> > system administration tools.  It seems that either one could be used for
> > the job and having both installed seems like a duplication of tools and a
> > waste of disk space.  Do people of the list agree with these thoughts?
> > Have y'all a preference for one tool or the other?  Why?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> 
> Isn't the better question "which tool meets your needs?"  I personally have
> stopped worrying about 10MB disk space here and there.  The last time I went
> to buy a disk the economical price range was the 40GB size  so really,
> who cares about a few MB here and there.
> 
> btw I use linuxconf
> 
> Joe Sotham
>  -

Joe is right. Disk space is very cheap, and if you worry about 10MB,
maybe your focus should be on a new employment situation.

BTW, I wouldn't use either one of them. They both have a history of
screwing up config files. As long as you have CLI, and editors, such as
vi or pico, learn to do do admin the way it is meant to be done. One
very late night, when the server is remotely located miles away, and you
just want to finish your work, you will appreciate what I am saying.

(Hey, you asked for opinions, and you get opinions)

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[expert] wheel mouse with 5 buttons - how to program extra buttons?

2002-04-02 Thread Brian Henerey

I have a Microsoft optical wheel mouse with 5 buttons. How can I change what 
the buttons do? currently the left thumb button loads the home page, instead 
of going Back a page. 

I'm sure someone knows, but I'm not subscribed currently to the newbie list.

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[expert] draknet -> isdn

2002-04-02 Thread messmate

Hello all,
I've very serious troubles to connect with isdn.
Running mdk 8.1 on a workstation without a local network.I've tryed isdn-light and 
isdn4, no connection.
Draknet give me this troubles I think !
Here are the error messages :
Configuring IP device ippp0  -->   ippp0 0.0.0.0 pointopoint 0.0.0.0 -arp -broadcast
SIOCSIFDSTADDR: Cannot assign requested address
Any help would be very appreciated.
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expert@linux-mandrake.com

2002-04-02 Thread David Guntner

Pierre Fortin grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 05:05:38 -0800 "David Guntner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > > 
> > > To your /etc/postfix/main.cf file, add:
> > > 
> > > /powerfulporn.com/ 551 DON'T WANT SPAM
>  ^
> > Sorry, I think that should have actually been:
> > 
> > /powerfulporn/com/ REJECT DON'T WANT SPAM
>^
> I think you meant:
>   /powerfulporn\.com/ 
>^^
>
> > (or whatever text is that you want for the "don't want spam" part is).
> 
> Actually, it's either:
>   /match/ REJECT text
>   /match/ [45]XX text

Right.  In my example, "DON'T WANT SPAM" was the text as an example.  I 
just goofed on what the action should be and was trying to correct that.

> Note that some UCE controls do not take "text" with REJECT... See
> http://www.postfix.org/uce.html

According to the docs at the site, this one does.  I just botched the 
action field in my first example to him.

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Re: [expert] wheel mouse with 5 buttons - how to program extra buttons?

2002-04-02 Thread Tim Holmes

I've been wondering how to do this myself.  As well as trying to
configure the buttons for my "Internet ready" keyboard, but I've not had
much luck!

But somebody once gave me some information that "MAY" work.  I tried
them in a round'bout way, but didn't get anything to work.  Maybe I'll
give it another whirl.  But here's what I was using as a format/example.
Maybe it'll help you.

http://www.linux.com/enhance/newsitem.phtml?sid=1&aid=11801
   

http://www.linux.com/enhance/newsitem.phtml?sid=1&aid=12340
   


Let me konw if you have an success.  I have a Kensington Expert Pro
mouse.  4 buttons, scroll wheel/button, track ball, and 5 "Quick Start
Buttons."  It would be sweet to have *terms open up when I hit thos
buttons! :')
tdh

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| the buttons do? currently the left thumb button loads the home page, instead 
| of going Back a page. 
| 
| I'm sure someone knows, but I'm not subscribed currently to the newbie list.
| 
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Re: Fwd: Re: [expert] /bin/cat initiated by kwrited in KDE

2002-04-02 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 07:21, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote:
> heya, 
> 
> there is really nothing special about my installation.
> its using the mandrake kernel that came with mandrake
> 8.1 and its booting on init level 5 (gui login).
> everything is off the CD ... after my clean install, i
> have updated only the packages listed on the 8.1
> updates (not including the kernel).  the updates list 
> doesnt include KDE updates. 
> 
> hmmm, are you saying you dont see /bin/cat on your
> opened processes? how do you start kde? ... thru
> startx? 

I've got the K display manager running, so I login thru it.
Enlightenment is running with KDE support right now, and the cat is not
there.  But earlier after I got your email I went completely into KDE
and did a process tree:

root@tamriel elx]# pstree -lp
init(1)-+-alarmd(2742)
|-artsd(2609)
|-chronyd(1309)
|-crond(1624)
|-cupsd(1353)
|-devfsd(120)
|-dhcpd(1377)
|-esd(1841)
|-gconfd-1(2189)
|-gpm(1567)
|-imwheel(2551)
|-kapm-idled(4)
|-kdeinit(2590)
|-kdeinit(2593)
|-kdeinit(2596)
|-kdeinit(2658)
|-kdeinit(2678)-+-kdeinit(2719)
|   |-kdeinit(2726)
|   `-kdeinit(2728)
|-kdeinit(2724)
|-kdeinit(2731)
|-kdeinit(2736)---cat(2740)
|-kdm(1745)-+-X(1757)
|   `-kdm(2447)---startkde(2503)-+-ksmserver(2679)
|`-xscreensaver(2525)

So it looks like when KDE is fully up, I've got a cat on the loose too. 
The interesting thing is that under pure Enlightenment, kdeinit runs
instances of itself whenever I've got a qt app running, but
kdeinit---cat never appears.  At least not in the snapshots that I've
seen.
 
> oh its not really irritating me ... :-) its just
> making me pull 3 strands of my hair everytime i do a
> 'ps ax' and sees it  :-P   


Here's something you might find useful.  Under pure E with KDE support,
I start kwrite, and there's no cat.  Then I start kwrited manually, and
cat shows as a subprocess under kwrited, not kdeinit. (as your subject line
originally intimated) Kwrited survives as long as kwrite is up and dies
whenever kwrite dies; but so does cat.  It isn't passed to kdeinit, at
least not from what I see from the pstree snapshots.  So the process
tree under pure E with kde support remains clear of cat under normal
circumstances.

> nope, none that i know of ... i will be installing 8.2
> on a different machine today. if i dont see it
> (/bin/cat) on the processes initiated, ill just
> upgrade and "forever hold my piece" about this issue
> ;)

FWIW, it's been interesting to examine this; it's been informative, and
now I'm curious myself as to why kdeinit babysits cat continually under
pure KDE.  I would say it's a handoff, except that it's there before any
apps are run.


> ciao,
> dianne (btw 2 Ns) :-P

lol!  :) 

Cheers,

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[expert] X 4.2.0 and font rendering problems

2002-04-02 Thread Dean S. Messing



I am having some strange font rendering problems that I can't figure
out.  There are actually three problems which I'm not even sure are
related.  Also I'm not sure if it's the driver, X, KDE, or Mandrake's
configuration.  I hope someone can point me North.

I'll be as brief as possible but I'm including

 -- /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
 -- /etc/X11/fs/config
 -- /var/log/XFree86.0.log

at the end so you can (maybe) diagnose my problem.

When responding, _please_ be kind to others and edit all extraneous
stuff out.  Thanks.

My system: 

MoBo:   Tyan Tiger S2466N w/ dual Athlon MP 1500+ (1.33GHz)CPUs 

Video Board:GeForce4 Ti4600
Monitor: -- Panasync S21 (CRT)
 -- operating resolution (1600x1200)

Stock Mandrake: Stock 8.2
 -- XFree 4.2.0
 -- stock nv driver
 -- stock KDE
 -- font antialiasing is OFF by default in stock installation

Problems:

1) missing pixels w/in font strokes.  If I do a "refresh" of the
   desktop _some_ but not all of the missing pixels appear.  The
   "shape" of fonts look fine, i.e. they actually look antialiased.

2) If I open a KDE Konsole window (black background, white font-face)
   and cat a bunch of stuff to the screen, or scroll the text there
   will be a lot of white isolated pixels remaining on w/in the black
   background.

   It is as though a font was written at a particular
   location, then when some other letter is written at same location
   (or a space is written) some of the pixels don't get turned off.  A
   desktop refresh completely clears this up as well.

   I don't see this effect w/in an xterm (black background, white font) but
   the "missing pixels" problem of 1) is especially bad.

3) When I enable "antialiased fonts" w/in KDE (and restart KDE)
   all my fonts now look awful.  I don't think it's the classic "abiword"
   font problem.  How do I describe "awful"?  The fonts all look "square"
   both w/in KDE and w/in Konqueror.  However the fonts look noral w/in,
   say Mandrake control center (and emacs).

   Most importantly, turning on antialiasing did _not_ fix 1 and 2 above.


Mandrake Specific problem:

4) Hardrake is not identifiying my GeForce4 at all.  It says
   "NONE Generic VGA".  When installing Mandrake 8.2, the installer
   identified the board as a GeForce3.

I plan to switch to the nVidia binary drivers as soon as I learn how
to install them.  But I'm not sure they will solve these problems.

Ok, that's enough for now. 


Following is the above mentioned system info.  Search on 
, , 

to get to the head of the appropriate stuff.

  Thanks,
  Dean S. Messing
  Information Systems Technologies Dept.
  Sharp Laboratories of America
  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


/***/
/*  */
/***/
 
# File generated by XFdrake.

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

Section "Files"

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath   "unix/:-1"

EndSection

# **
# Server flags section.
# **

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
#NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the  server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.
#DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.
#DontZoom

# This  allows  the  server  to start up even if the
# mouse device can't be opened/initialised.
AllowMouseOpenFail

EndSection

# **
# Input devices
# **

# **
# Keyboard section
# **

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver  "Keyboard"
Option "AutoRepeat"  "250 30"

Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection

# **

Re: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 12:44, J. Craig Woods wrote:

> BTW, I wouldn't use either one of them. They both have a history of
> screwing up config files. As long as you have CLI, and editors, such as
> vi or pico, learn to do do admin the way it is meant to be done. One
> very late night, when the server is remotely located miles away, and you
> just want to finish your work, you will appreciate what I am saying.
> 
> (Hey, you asked for opinions, and you get opinions)
> 
> -- 
> J. Craig Woods
> UNIX/NT Network/System Administration

I have to agree with Craig regarding the CLI.  The command line is the
lowest common denominator when it comes to administration; that implies
that the greatest power and leverage lies at that level.  GUI based
interfaces are good for a quick solution sometimes, IF their history is
one of reliability.  My experiences regarding linuxconf have mirrored
Craig's in that my config files have been foobarred.  That admittedly
was a year ago; but the bottom line is still and always will be the
least common denominator.  Which is the CLI.

There are always exceptions to the rule. Mandrake Control Center has
been singulary impressive. Kudos Mandrakebut the GUI incurs an
additional penalty that no one seems to realize except the
ignorant-user-savvy MicroSoft Corporation.  And that is, simply, it
divides the user from the CLI and weakens them in that regard.  How? By
just giving you an avenue that you don't have to create new neural
pathways for in order to handle.  So the learning curve gets shorter and
more shallow, but the user's power is greatly curtailed.  M$ wants this
because their interface is more akin to heroin for ignorant users than
it is a teaching tool.  And addiction is exactly what they are after.

IF you have the willpower to force yourself onto the command line
continually in order to fully grok all the commands and config file
syntaxes that you need to have in order to be a true CLI administrator,
then the GUI is for you also.  However, if you find yourself leaning
towards the GUI because you gravitate away from onerous long and steep
mental learning curves, then you need to do away with the GUI
functionality until your CLI habits and mentalities are established.

One more opinion thrown out there... ;P

Cheers,

LX


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Re: [expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:24:21 -0500 (EST)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> 
> > As these list often have questions dealing with system/hardware
> > problems causing system crashes and/or the like I thought that
> > I would relate a recent experience that I had.
> >
> > I have built several systems and consider myself to be quite
> > knowledgeable in  both system arch and components.
> 
> Something of a related question:
> 
> I've built all my current machines but always had questions about the
> orientation of the chassis fans. I usually put two extras in, one at the
> front of the case and one at the back under the power supply. Normally I
> have the front fan blowing the same direction as the PS. I.e., the front
> blows in, the PS fan blows out. What do you do for the second chassis
> fan at the rear? I usually have it blow in the same direction as the PS
> fan, but I've since heard that this is a bad thing.
> 

I have always held the view that all front mounted fans and all side mounted fans, if 
used as drive bay coolers, should blow into the case.
Rear mounted fans and side  mounted fans, if used for aux CPU cooling, should be used 
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[expert] Should vfat systematically be checked with dosfsck?

2002-04-02 Thread Guy Zelck

Hi all,

I share a disk with a M$ OS I seldom use. This disk holds a vfat32 
partition.
Since I nearly allways use my md8.1 and this partition is mounted 
automatically it should be checked.
I don't think the rc.sysinit file takes this into account, it's to say 
that this calls fsck via Fsck and fsck is a front end to a fs specific 
checker, e.g. when dealing with an ext32 it will call fsck.ext2.
So in the case of our vfat fs it will search for fsck.vfat which doesn't 
exist.
Now I looked around on my system and there is dosfsck which is what we need.
I could make a symlink 'ln -s /sbin/dosfsck /sbin/fsck.vfat' or edit 
rc.sysinit to call dosfsck to make it work.
Is using dosfsck a good idea or is there a better (safer) alternative?
I we rely on M$'s OS to do the repairing we oblige ourselves to boot 
into Windows after a lock-up. It's maybe safer but if it can be avoided ...
I'd like to hear from one of Mandrake's technicians what they think. 
Civileme ...

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Re: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread David Guntner

Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> 
> There are always exceptions to the rule. Mandrake Control Center has
> been singulary impressive. Kudos Mandrakebut the GUI incurs an
> additional penalty that no one seems to realize except the
> ignorant-user-savvy MicroSoft Corporation.  And that is, simply, it
> divides the user from the CLI and weakens them in that regard.  How? By
> just giving you an avenue that you don't have to create new neural
> pathways for in order to handle.  So the learning curve gets shorter and
> more shallow, but the user's power is greatly curtailed.  M$ wants this
> because their interface is more akin to heroin for ignorant users than
> it is a teaching tool.  And addiction is exactly what they are after.

I like using the Mandrake Control Center because it's convenient.  But yea, 
this results in my sometimes scratching my head when I'm trying to figure 
out how to do it from the shell.  And when I'm remote and using a ssh 
session to access my machine, this can be really annoying. :-)  What I'd 
like to see is that when you try to apply your change from the MCC, that it 
pop up a window showing you what shell commands it's going to execute in 
order to meet your change request.  *That* would be helpful (at least, to 
me :), since at the very least, it shows me what command needs to be run, 
and then when I'm running from a remote ssh login, something in the back of 
my brain will be likely to say, "hey, isn't command  the one that does 
this?" and then I can start attacking the man page.

Just a thought

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Re: [expert] Module Compile Errors in 2.4.18-6mdk

2002-04-02 Thread Juergen Hammelmann

Am Tuesday 26 March 2002 16:16 schrieb Andrew Carlson:
> Is anyone else having problems with this?  Here is the output of my
> module compile:
>
> P.S.  It happens on more than one module, from more than one subsystem.

did you made a `make mrproper` before???

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[expert] LM8.2: Wine vs Codeweavers Wine vs Transgaming WineX

2002-04-02 Thread Frederic Soulier

Hi

Is it better to use LM8.2 Wine or Codeweavers Wine?
Can Transgaming WineX be installed alongside LM8.2 Wine or Codeweavers
Wine? Or can it replace both altogether?

Any good souls to enlighten me on this one ;)
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[expert] LM8.2: gFtp + SSH2

2002-04-02 Thread Frederic Soulier

Hi

I am trying to use gFtp over SSH2 but it fails with the following error:
(taken from gFtp log file)

gFTP 2.0.11, Copyright (C) 1998-2002 Brian Masney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. If
you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about this program,
please feel free to email them to me. You can always find out the latest
news about gFTP from my website at http://gftp.seul.org/
gFTP comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details, see the COPYING
file. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; for details, see the COPYING file
Opening SSH connection to 192.168.0.1
Running program ssh -e none -l frederic 192.168.0.1 -s sftp
3: Protocol Initialization
Error: Message size 1936943199 too big from server
Disconnecting from site 192.168.0.1
Received wrong response from server, disconnecting
Waiting 30 seconds until trying to connect again

I can SSH the machine from the console without problem...

The error just puzzles me:
   Error: Message size 1936943199 too big from server

Any idea?
Thanks in advance.

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RE: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread Doug Gough

That sounds great, but I don't have 500 hours a day to learn this stuff in.
I guess I've been holding out until someone publishes a book something like
"How to do every single thing possible that you will ever need to know from
the Linux command linefor dummies" That being said, I have learned alot
about the config files from the Osbourne Red Hat Linux book, and from
manually repairing damage done by GUI tools.

Doug Gough

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On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 12:44, J. Craig Woods wrote:

> BTW, I wouldn't use either one of them. They both have a history of
> screwing up config files. As long as you have CLI, and editors, such as
> vi or pico, learn to do do admin the way it is meant to be done. One
> very late night, when the server is remotely located miles away, and you
> just want to finish your work, you will appreciate what I am saying.
>
> (Hey, you asked for opinions, and you get opinions)
>
> --
> J. Craig Woods
> UNIX/NT Network/System Administration

I have to agree with Craig regarding the CLI.  The command line is the
lowest common denominator when it comes to administration; that implies
that the greatest power and leverage lies at that level.  GUI based
interfaces are good for a quick solution sometimes, IF their history is
one of reliability.  My experiences regarding linuxconf have mirrored
Craig's in that my config files have been foobarred.  That admittedly
was a year ago; but the bottom line is still and always will be the
least common denominator.  Which is the CLI.

There are always exceptions to the rule. Mandrake Control Center has
been singulary impressive. Kudos Mandrakebut the GUI incurs an
additional penalty that no one seems to realize except the
ignorant-user-savvy MicroSoft Corporation.  And that is, simply, it
divides the user from the CLI and weakens them in that regard.  How? By
just giving you an avenue that you don't have to create new neural
pathways for in order to handle.  So the learning curve gets shorter and
more shallow, but the user's power is greatly curtailed.  M$ wants this
because their interface is more akin to heroin for ignorant users than
it is a teaching tool.  And addiction is exactly what they are after.

IF you have the willpower to force yourself onto the command line
continually in order to fully grok all the commands and config file
syntaxes that you need to have in order to be a true CLI administrator,
then the GUI is for you also.  However, if you find yourself leaning
towards the GUI because you gravitate away from onerous long and steep
mental learning curves, then you need to do away with the GUI
functionality until your CLI habits and mentalities are established.

One more opinion thrown out there... ;P

Cheers,

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[expert] vmware on 8.2

2002-04-02 Thread Dodd, David J

I was trying to install vmware with mandrake 8.2 and I am having a
problem with running out of virtual memory on the /root/vmware
directory.  This did not happen with redhad 7.2 I was able to have a
virtual file size of at least 2 gig.  My hard drive is 20 gig, anyone
else have this problem yet or am I doing something wrong.  
 
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Re: [expert] LM8.2: Wine vs Codeweavers Wine vs Transgaming WineX

2002-04-02 Thread Damian

El mar, 02-04-2002 a las 18:47, Frederic Soulier escribió:
> Hi
> 
> Is it better to use LM8.2 Wine or Codeweavers Wine?
> Can Transgaming WineX be installed alongside LM8.2 Wine or Codeweavers
> Wine? Or can it replace both altogether?
> 
> Any good souls to enlighten me on this one ;)
> Thanks

hi. wassup.

i don't know if it's "better" than normal wine, but i've got
codeweavers'
running here, and it's working really good. i can even open
the big apps with it.

see ya.

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Re: [expert] Should vfat systematically be checked with dosfsck?

2002-04-02 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 15:20, Guy Zelck wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I share a disk with a M$ OS I seldom use. This disk holds a vfat32 
> partition.
> Since I nearly allways use my md8.1 and this partition is mounted 
> automatically it should be checked.
> I don't think the rc.sysinit file takes this into account, it's to say 
> that this calls fsck via Fsck and fsck is a front end to a fs specific 
> checker, e.g. when dealing with an ext32 it will call fsck.ext2.
> So in the case of our vfat fs it will search for fsck.vfat which doesn't 
> exist.
> Now I looked around on my system and there is dosfsck which is what we need.
> I could make a symlink 'ln -s /sbin/dosfsck /sbin/fsck.vfat' or edit 
> rc.sysinit to call dosfsck to make it work.
> Is using dosfsck a good idea or is there a better (safer) alternative?
> I we rely on M$'s OS to do the repairing we oblige ourselves to boot 
> into Windows after a lock-up. It's maybe safer but if it can be avoided ...
> I'd like to hear from one of Mandrake's technicians what they think. 
> Civileme ...
> 
> Thanks,
> Guy.

While we are waiting for Civ to get here, I can put in that I've fixed
problems with vfats with linux utils.  Bad ones. I've done everything
from the partitioning right up to the point where 98 gets installed with
the linux utils.  In fact, if you have XP and you put it on an NTFS
partition, it's best (from what I understand) to do the NTFS creation
with Linux, and then install XP afterwards.  Otherwise, if the XP disks
do the NTFS conversion, I've been given to understand that Linux can't
properly access the partition.  Not so if Linux creates it.

As to fixing problems with vfats using Linux, I've done that, and it's
saved my butt a few times, because offtimes the vfat filesystem can get
so crapped that fixing it from scandisk(dos) is not a possibility. 
Unless you happen to have a dos bootdisk prepared.  But even then, I've
been surprised with the effectiveness and dependability of the Linux
utils as compared to the native dos stuff.  Fixing a vfat drive from
inside linux (a truly unbiased/independent/seperate standpoint) has
definite advantages.  The only reason I stop short of using the
adjective "superior" is because I haven't conducted rigorous tests to
back that view up.

YAWN (Yet Another Wooden Nickel),

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[expert] [Fwd: socket error on remote dial up]

2002-04-02 Thread Frederick Gleicher



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I have been having this problem since replacing redhat 7.0 with mandrake
8.0. The company server has dsl internet thru eth0, with a LAN on eth1 (
thru a hub/switch ). It also has a dialup modem, ppp0 in the server for
remote administration, etc. On remote dialup, ppp0, it worked great
under redhat 7.0, but with mandrake 8.0, after a period of time, the
surfing gets slower and slower, until it finally can't find anything.
Then, disconnecting and redialing, the modem doesn't answer. At the
machine, the error message "socket error: too many open files " appears,
and the server locks up. You have to push the reset button and crash it
to get it to reboot. 
It does this only on remote dial up. I installed 8.2, same problem. I've
run memtest, but memory seems to be ok. It's gotta be either a memory
leak or physically bad hardware. Whats causing this ? Any help I can get
with this would be appreciated, thanks.

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Re: [expert] bootable CD

2002-04-02 Thread Jason Guidry

Mike Rambo wrote:
> jipe wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 08:23:06 -0500
>>Mike Rambo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Maybe I'm just dense but how the heck do you create a
>>>bootable CD these days. 
>>
>>i assume that the files and directories from which to create your iso image are in a 
>directory named to_be_burnt. and you're creating an iso image in ~/burn
>>
>>first:
>>create iso image like this
>>cd to_be_burnt
>>mkisofs -v -r -T -J -pad -b boot_image -c boot.catalog -o ~/burn/image.iso .
>>
>>then
>>cd ~/burn
>>cdrecord -v speed=? dev=?,?,? image.iso
>>
>>replace ? with appropriate values
>>boot_image is the image from which the cd will boot. it has to be in the cd! give 
>the path from where you're creating iso.
>>
>>bye
>>jipe
>>
> 

Hey, Before this thread goes away...where does the image come from.  I 
tried asking a similar question a while back...I wanted to boot several 
mini-distros off the same disk.  any insight on that?



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Re: [expert] LM8.2: gFtp + SSH2

2002-04-02 Thread Norman Carver

I think this is probably due to the problem of sftp-server not being in the 
search path since it is installed in /usr/lib/ssh (at least for MDK 8.1).  If 
in gftp you go into ftp>options ssh tab, you can set the ssh2 sftp-server 
path to be /usr/lib/ssh and things will work (don't check any of the check 
boxes).  You can also ste this path for each bookmark I think.  I also 
believe that you can create an slink to sftp-server from someplace in the 
normal search path.  This problem is mentioned on the gftp web site.

On Tuesday 02 April 2002 03:54 pm, you wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am trying to use gFtp over SSH2 but it fails with the following error:
> (taken from gFtp log file)
>
> gFTP 2.0.11, Copyright (C) 1998-2002 Brian Masney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. If
> you have any questions, comments, or suggestions about this program,
> please feel free to email them to me. You can always find out the latest
> news about gFTP from my website at http://gftp.seul.org/
> gFTP comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details, see the COPYING
> file. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
> under certain conditions; for details, see the COPYING file
> Opening SSH connection to 192.168.0.1
> Running program ssh -e none -l frederic 192.168.0.1 -s sftp
> 3: Protocol Initialization
> Error: Message size 1936943199 too big from server
> Disconnecting from site 192.168.0.1
> Received wrong response from server, disconnecting
> Waiting 30 seconds until trying to connect again
>
> I can SSH the machine from the console without problem...
>
> The error just puzzles me:
>Error: Message size 1936943199 too big from server
>
> Any idea?
> Thanks in advance.

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Re: [expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread Jason Guidry

Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:24:21 -0500 (EST)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As these list often have questions dealing with system/hardware
>>>problems causing system crashes and/or the like I thought that
>>>I would relate a recent experience that I had.
>>>
>>>I have built several systems and consider myself to be quite
>>>knowledgeable in  both system arch and components.
>>
>>Something of a related question:
>>
>>I've built all my current machines but always had questions about the
>>orientation of the chassis fans. I usually put two extras in, one at the
>>front of the case and one at the back under the power supply. Normally I
>>have the front fan blowing the same direction as the PS. I.e., the front
>>blows in, the PS fan blows out. What do you do for the second chassis
>>fan at the rear? I usually have it blow in the same direction as the PS
>>fan, but I've since heard that this is a bad thing.
>>

Check the overclockerz sites, but the key is circulation.  just make 
sure you can visualize the direction of airflow, and that it does not 
defy physics.  for my money, if you're worried about cooling, two fans 
in front, 2 in back and one on each heatsink.  i'm not convinces that 
fans on the side don't cause resistance.

if you're really paranoid...

http://pcpowerandcooling.com/products/cooling/system/index_tc_2x.htm


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Re: [expert] vmware on 8.2

2002-04-02 Thread Damian

El mar, 02-04-2002 a las 18:42, Dodd, David J escribió:
> I was trying to install vmware with mandrake 8.2 and I am having a
> problem with running out of virtual memory on the /root/vmware
> directory.  This did not happen with redhad 7.2 I was able to have a
> virtual file size of at least 2 gig.  My hard drive is 20 gig, anyone
> else have this problem yet or am I doing something wrong.  
>  
> thanks 
>  
> dave
>  
did you give the guest OS enough RAM first? check the configuration
editor.

HTH

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Re: [expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread mike

Charles A Edwards wrote:

> > Something of a related question:
> >
> > I've built all my current machines but always had questions about the
> > orientation of the chassis fans. I usually put two extras in, one at the
> > front of the case and one at the back under the power supply. Normally I
> > have the front fan blowing the same direction as the PS. I.e., the front
> > blows in, the PS fan blows out. What do you do for the second chassis
> > fan at the rear? I usually have it blow in the same direction as the PS
> > fan, but I've since heard that this is a bad thing.
> >
> 
> I have always held the view that all front mounted fans and all side mounted fans, 
>if used as drive bay coolers, should blow into the case.
> Rear mounted fans and side  mounted fans, if used for aux CPU cooling, should be 
>used as exhaust and blow out.
> 
>Charles


The idea of fans is to take heat out of the case. the more air flow
,both in and out of the case will improve cooling. these are
self-evident. as long as you don't create more heat in the process (
like by having a fan that generates more heat than it can take away )
the greater the amount of air that equally goes in and out will increase
the cooling inside the case. as an example I  have a central heat and
air blower mounted in an outside building, which blows into the case
from the bottom and exits through the side. depending on the air temp
the cpu stays anywhere from 30 to 70 degrees F.
It blows  at an est. 650 cfm. ( YMMV ) a big fan (80-120 mm) on the side
blowing in on the cpu and a bigger fan blowing out the top or back
should do very well. a couple of extra 60mm fans blowing on other key
parts wouldn't hurt either. just make sure thay remove alot more heat
than they make. 

Just my thoughts on it . 

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Re: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread J. Craig Woods

David Guntner wrote:

> I like using the Mandrake Control Center because it's convenient.  But yea,
> this results in my sometimes scratching my head when I'm trying to figure
> out how to do it from the shell.  And when I'm remote and using a ssh
> session to access my machine, this can be really annoying. :-)  What I'd
> like to see is that when you try to apply your change from the MCC, that it
> pop up a window showing you what shell commands it's going to execute in
> order to meet your change request.  *That* would be helpful (at least, to
> me :), since at the very least, it shows me what command needs to be run,
> and then when I'm running from a remote ssh login, something in the back of
> my brain will be likely to say, "hey, isn't command  the one that does
> this?" and then I can start attacking the man page.
> 
> Just a thought
> 
>--Dave

And a very good thought it is. Would be nice to see such a utility made
for Linux (maybe there already is). Sun does this somewhat for Solaris
but IBM takes the prize with a very useful utility called "SMIT" for
AIX. With "SMIT" or its CLI alternative called "smitty" you can choose
your operation, and it will generate the command with all of the
appropriate switches and args. Very cool concept indeed.


Hey, David, why don't you write such a program. I think perl would be
the language of choice. Let me know when you are finish, and I will give
it a go...


-- 
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Re: [expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread kwan

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, mike wrote:

> The idea of fans is to take heat out of the case. the more air flow
> ,both in and out of the case will improve cooling. these are
> self-evident. as long as you don't create more heat in the process (
> like by having a fan that generates more heat than it can take away )
> the greater the amount of air that equally goes in and out will increase
> the cooling inside the case.

My thoughts too. The reason I'm unsure is that after looking at several
pre-built machines, half of the rear fans are blowing inward. I have an
old Prosignia with the rear fan blowing inward, and there are a series
of clear plastic baffles directing the airflow over the CPU card.

I've also noticed that dust bunnies breed in the rarely-used CDROM drive
of one of my servers. It has the rear fans blowing out and the front fan
blowing in.




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Re: [expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread Jason Guidry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> My thoughts too. The reason I'm unsure is that after looking at several
> pre-built machines, half of the rear fans are blowing inward. I have an

Don't get me started on prebuilt systems.  my sister's computer is a 1.3 
Athlon from HP.  It leaks *hot* air out the floppy drive.  when I open 
the case, the *chassis* is hot to the touch.  and it's not like it's too 
crowded in there to cool.  just lazy, i guess.


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Re: [expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread Felix Miata

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, mike wrote:
 
> > The idea of fans is to take heat out of the case. the more air flow
> > ,both in and out of the case will improve cooling. these are
> > self-evident. as long as you don't create more heat in the process (
> > like by having a fan that generates more heat than it can take away )
> > the greater the amount of air that equally goes in and out will increase
> > the cooling inside the case.
 
> My thoughts too. The reason I'm unsure is that after looking at several
> pre-built machines, half of the rear fans are blowing inward. I have an
> old Prosignia with the rear fan blowing inward, and there are a series
> of clear plastic baffles directing the airflow over the CPU card.

Something that is not self evident is that heat rejection from sinks and
components is reduced when air pressure is low, which is what happens if
you try to suck more heat from the case than can get in as easily.
-- 
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Proverbs 1:7 NIV

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Re: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread Femme

On Tuesday 02 April 2002 02:34 pm, you wrote:
> That sounds great, but I don't have 500 hours a day to learn this stuff in.
> I guess I've been holding out until someone publishes a book something like
> "How to do every single thing possible that you will ever need to know from
> the Linux command linefor dummies" That being said, I have learned alot
> about the config files from the Osbourne Red Hat Linux book, and from
> manually repairing damage done by GUI tools.
>
> Doug Gough
>


I'm learning to use both teh CLI & GUI.

It makes little difference to me which I use but like you Doug, have either 
no time or patience to learn everything on a CLI.

This site doesn't always seem to be up for me but it has so far proven 
extremely helpful for learning:

http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal



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Re: [expert] wheel mouse with 5 buttons - how to program extra buttons?

2002-04-02 Thread Femme

On Tuesday 02 April 2002 10:57 am, you wrote:
> I have a Microsoft optical wheel mouse with 5 buttons. How can I change
> what the buttons do? currently the left thumb button loads the home page,
> instead of going Back a page.
>
> I'm sure someone knows, but I'm not subscribed currently to the newbie
> list.
>
> -Brian

Not quite what you're after but if you also have an Internet keyboard:

http://www.warpedsystems.sk.ca/article.php?sid=475&mode=&order=0

For mouse things, I did find this but haven't tried it too much yet.

http://www.xfree86.org/current/mouse7.html



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Re: [expert] LM8.2: Wine vs Codeweavers Wine vs Transgaming WineX

2002-04-02 Thread Lorne Shantz

I can wholeheartedly recommend CodeWeavers. The Gui interface makes it MUCH
easier to deal with. I will also put in a plug for their Cross over office!
Wanna see office 97 or 2000 work in Linux like a dream? How bout IE4.0? It all
works great and is childs play.

Frederic Soulier wrote:

> Hi
>
> Is it better to use LM8.2 Wine or Codeweavers Wine?
> Can Transgaming WineX be installed alongside LM8.2 Wine or Codeweavers
> Wine? Or can it replace both altogether?
>
> Any good souls to enlighten me on this one ;)
> Thanks
>
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[expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread Charles A Edwards

As these list often have questions dealing with system/hardware problems causing 
system crashes and/or the like I thought that I would relate a recent experience that 
I had.

I have built several systems and consider myself to be quite knowledgeable in  both 
system arch and components.
My latest system I put together in late Dec, my Xmas present to myself.
The specs of said system are not relevant to my tale so I shall omit those. 
Recently this system began to suffer from random and total lockups.
Because these lockups would occured in both linux and windows it was apparent that I 
was afflicted with a hardware problem.

When booting cold into linux the system would run for roughly 5hrs without problem but 
then the lockups would begin occurring, had it even happen at the GUI login screen.
Once the point was reached that the lockups began the system was useless unless I 
shutdown and left it idle for several hours.
Even worse than the lockups was that data corruption was occurring.

MY first thought of a cause was either bad memory or hd. 
I checked all the drive cables and plugs.
Ensured that components were securely seated.
I ran memtest86 and an IBM drive fitness test with both showing no errors.
I changed memory modules and slots, changed hd and cables, even ide controllers; and 
after each change keep the system up and after each change after about 5hrs the 
lockups would still start.

Having eliminated memory and hds from the list of possible causes the only ones I saw 
remaining were either a faulty MOBO or CPU or possible graphics card.
Switching from a GeForce3 to a Radeon produced no better results. 

Well I did not have another MOBO that I could use in this system but I
did have a CPU that I could take from a working system that could be used in this MOBO.
I removed the current CPU and heatsink and installed those from the other system.
Because on this MOBO the CPU fits just below the power supply connector my hand rested 
against the connector while affixing the heatsink.
It was then that I noted the the cable did not feel secure in the socket.

Has anyone guessed the punchline yet?

That's right, but you don't get a prize, after ensuring that the power cable was 
seated as securely as possible and restarting the system I have not suffered a lockup.

Added together, between changing out components, reinstalling a half dozen time and 
then waiting for the system to either pass or fail the lockup tests I probably spent 
50+ hrs over the course of a week fixing a
system to which I had access, which is 49hrs longer than it would have required to 
completely dismantle the system and rebuild it, and then stumbled upon the solution 
when I did only by chance.

I suppose that the morale to this tale is to not forget to check the innocuous little 
details.
As I have shown it is not alway hardware failures that cause system failure and in 
many instances finding and eliminating the cause of the problem is often trial and 
error and yes, even Luck.


Charles
 



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Re: [expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread kwan

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:

> As these list often have questions dealing with system/hardware
> problems causing system crashes and/or the like I thought that
> I would relate a recent experience that I had.
>
> I have built several systems and consider myself to be quite
> knowledgeable in  both system arch and components.

Something of a related question:

I've built all my current machines but always had questions about the
orientation of the chassis fans. I usually put two extras in, one at the
front of the case and one at the back under the power supply. Normally I
have the front fan blowing the same direction as the PS. I.e., the front
blows in, the PS fan blows out. What do you do for the second chassis
fan at the rear? I usually have it blow in the same direction as the PS
fan, but I've since heard that this is a bad thing.




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Re: [expert] Diary of a Hardware problems

2002-04-02 Thread civileme

Charles A Edwards wrote:

>As these list often have questions dealing with system/hardware problems causing 
>system crashes and/or the like I thought that I would relate a recent experience that 
>I had.
>
>I have built several systems and consider myself to be quite knowledgeable in  both 
>system arch and components.
>My latest system I put together in late Dec, my Xmas present to myself.
>The specs of said system are not relevant to my tale so I shall omit those. 
>Recently this system began to suffer from random and total lockups.
>Because these lockups would occured in both linux and windows it was apparent that I 
>was afflicted with a hardware problem.
>
>When booting cold into linux the system would run for roughly 5hrs without problem 
>but then the lockups would begin occurring, had it even happen at the GUI login 
>screen.
>Once the point was reached that the lockups began the system was useless unless I 
>shutdown and left it idle for several hours.
>Even worse than the lockups was that data corruption was occurring.
>
>MY first thought of a cause was either bad memory or hd. 
>I checked all the drive cables and plugs.
>Ensured that components were securely seated.
>I ran memtest86 and an IBM drive fitness test with both showing no errors.
>I changed memory modules and slots, changed hd and cables, even ide controllers; and 
>after each change keep the system up and after each change after about 5hrs the 
>lockups would still start.
>
>Having eliminated memory and hds from the list of possible causes the only ones I saw 
>remaining were either a faulty MOBO or CPU or possible graphics card.
>Switching from a GeForce3 to a Radeon produced no better results. 
>
>Well I did not have another MOBO that I could use in this system but I
>did have a CPU that I could take from a working system that could be used in this 
>MOBO.
>I removed the current CPU and heatsink and installed those from the other system.
>Because on this MOBO the CPU fits just below the power supply connector my hand 
>rested against the connector while affixing the heatsink.
>It was then that I noted the the cable did not feel secure in the socket.
>
>Has anyone guessed the punchline yet?
>
>That's right, but you don't get a prize, after ensuring that the power cable was 
>seated as securely as possible and restarting the system I have not suffered a lockup.
>
>Added together, between changing out components, reinstalling a half dozen time and 
>then waiting for the system to either pass or fail the lockup tests I probably spent 
>50+ hrs over the course of a week fixing a
>system to which I had access, which is 49hrs longer than it would have required to 
>completely dismantle the system and rebuild it, and then stumbled upon the solution 
>when I did only by chance.
>
>I suppose that the morale to this tale is to not forget to check the innocuous little 
>details.
>As I have shown it is not alway hardware failures that cause system failure and in 
>many instances finding and eliminating the cause of the problem is often trial and 
>error and yes, even Luck.
>
>
>Charles
> 
>
>
>
>
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Yeppers  That's why I always check cabling first, then capslock then

And I learned through similar experiences.

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[expert] caching nameserver trouble

2002-04-02 Thread Lee Roberts

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I've having trouble getting and keeping my caching nameserver running. On my 
first attempt to install & configure the caching nameserver, I couldn't get 
named to start. I kept getting "connection refused". So, I uninstalled and 
reinstalled bind and caching-nameserver rpm's and that got named to start. 
Everything was working just fine until I had to shut off everything at my 
house for pest control. When I booted back up, I could not get named to start 
- -- same error message and same solution to fix it. Can anyone point me into 
the right direction in order to solve this problem?

P.S. does anyone know why the GPG keys are missing from every rpm package 
that I d/l from rpmfind? (MD5 sums are OK).

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[expert] system upgrade -- moving users

2002-04-02 Thread synrat

I'm setting up a new server for my mail-web-file server setup.
While I'm not worried about recreating configuration files for most 
servers, I don't know what to do with the users home directories and 
password files.  Will it work if I simply add the contents of the old 
password file to password file on the new machine ?? ( only user names 
of course ). Do I need to worry about shadow passwords in this case ??
any advice will be appreciated.




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[expert] openssl certificates

2002-04-02 Thread synrat

I'm using a certificate generated by openssl for secure e-mail ( 
pops/imaps).  Mozilla and evolution both are fine with accepting the 
certificate forever, but kmail and all outlooks keep prompting users to 
hit yes to use that certificate.  What can I do to stop that from 
happening ?? Do I really have to have some CA like Verisign sign my 
certificate, or is there a way around that ??
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Re: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread Lee Roberts

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On Tuesday 02 April 2002 01:30 pm, David Guntner wrote:
>
> I like using the Mandrake Control Center because it's convenient.  But yea,
> this results in my sometimes scratching my head when I'm trying to figure
> out how to do it from the shell.  And when I'm remote and using a ssh
> session to access my machine, this can be really annoying. :-)  

Try tunneling VNC. Works for me. As for webmin, I think it is seriously deficient.
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Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, software development]

2002-04-02 Thread mike

Remember before November.  That only Dems are supporting this is conservative 
revisionism.  Fire em all I say.  Vote out the ones you can and recall the 
rest.


On Tuesday 02 April 2002 02:31, James wrote:
> Well it looks like the working stiff of the US has someone in
> Washington that believes we aren't all theives.  Senator Leheay of
> Vermont THE man such a bill must satisfy to even make it to the
> floor.  Has said point blank... not this season it won't.  However
> remember one thing for the people in CA  Feinstien was the
> co-sponsor!!! Remember come November.
>
> James
>
>
> On 30 Mar 2002 08:27:58 -0500
>
> Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote and hopefully I read right:
> > On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 03:56, James wrote:
> > > To give everyone a quicker way of finding your reps go to
> > > http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ziptoit.html  A service
>
> provided
>
> > > by the US mail. It will find them and give you links out to
>
> contact
>
> > > them.
> > >
> > > James
> >
> > Thanks, James!  I needed that.  I'm working on this stuff today.
>
> You
>
> > must have esp or something...
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > LX
> >
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[expert] ghostscript broken in MDK 82?

2002-04-02 Thread Jeremy Mereness


I can't get anything to render thru the ghostscript engine. So, nothing
of the sort works, even Print Previews in KDE.

I can't even render the examples in
/usr/share/ghostscript/6.53/examples. The error I always get is
  Error: /invalid fileaccess in --.outputpage--
  Operand stack:
  ... etc.

Anyone else seen this? I'm running under secure level 4, Mandrake 8.2.

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Re: [expert] LM8.2: Wine vs Codeweavers Wine vs Transgaming WineX

2002-04-02 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: Frederic Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:47 PM
Subject: [expert] LM8.2: Wine vs Codeweavers Wine vs Transgaming WineX


> Hi
>
> Is it better to use LM8.2 Wine or Codeweavers Wine?
> Can Transgaming WineX be installed alongside LM8.2 Wine or Codeweavers
> Wine? Or can it replace both altogether?
>
> Any good souls to enlighten me on this one ;)
> Thanks
>

The CVS version of Transgaming's WineX will load and run many DirectX
games -- other versions of WINE won't do that.  Codeweaver's WINE has a cool
GUI config tool, but it's a verson or two old.

They all like to install in different places (or can be made to) and can be
run simultaneously AFAIK.

Just try them all and pick which one will run the app you want.

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[expert] equivalents to Adobe Illustrator, Pagemaker, etc.

2002-04-02 Thread Chad

To the guy looking for equivalents to Adobe Illustrator, Pagemaker, etc. to
be able to send to the printing company:

Sorry, I lost your thread.  That's why the new subject.

Here are two page layout programs for linux that you might be happy with.
I'm not sure how they export, but I would put money on it's a standard file
format that the printing company you are sending it to will be able to read
it.


Try Scribus at:
http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/about.html


Or try ImPress at:
http://www.ntlug.org/~ccox/impress/index.html


Good luck,

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Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, softwaredevelopment]

2002-04-02 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 22:34, mike wrote:
> Remember before November.  That only Dems are supporting this is conservative 
> revisionism.  Fire em all I say.  Vote out the ones you can and recall the 
> rest.

Conservative revisionism?  WTF? By who's reckoning?  I've been watching
the democratic and republican parties with interest for the last three
years, and I can assure you that the democrats-liberals have ALWAYS been
behind both the constitutional rights erosion AND are the primary dildos
of entertainment industry's attack on open source.  The only
"revisionism" around here is LIBERAL revisionism; HELLO  THEY
CONTROL THE MEDIA!! 

Yeah, there are some liberals and turncoats in republican clothing out
there, but it is almost exclusively the democrats-liberals that have
control of the media; what any liberal reports to the media is accepted
without question, no matter what credentials (wether they exist or no),
while anything contributed by a "conservative" is not even given the
time of day. "Politically Incorrect" was a prime example of liberal
media in action. They control the pathetic quotient of the public
educational system(which is liberal as a result); they push taxes, gun
control, and anything else that might help to weaken and further enslave
the middle class.  They are the true cancer of this nation and should be
eliminated totally from power.  It's time that the people fighting the
good fight rise up against these corrupt lying hypocrites and get them
purged from our national structure.

Now they percieve open source as a threat to their gravy train and they
know they cannot beat it on technical ground; therefore they are going
to legislate it out of existence.  Well, they can kiss my a$$; it aint
going to happen if myself and others of like mind short circuit their
elitist anti competitive chess game.

> > On Tuesday 02 April 2002 02:31, James wrote:
> > Well it looks like the working stiff of the US has someone in
> > Washington that believes we aren't all theives.  Senator Leheay of
> > Vermont THE man such a bill must satisfy to even make it to the
> > floor.  Has said point blank... not this season it won't.  However
> > remember one thing for the people in CA  Feinstien was the
> > co-sponsor!!! Remember come November.
> >
> > James


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Re: [expert] equivalents to Adobe Illustrator, Pagemaker, etc.

2002-04-02 Thread J. Grant

Has anyone got Photoshop, Illustrator, Pagemaker, etc running under wine 
sucessfully?

JG

Chad wrote:
> To the guy looking for equivalents to Adobe Illustrator, Pagemaker, etc. to
> be able to send to the printing company:
> 
> Sorry, I lost your thread.  That's why the new subject.
> 
> Here are two page layout programs for linux that you might be happy with.
> I'm not sure how they export, but I would put money on it's a standard file
> format that the printing company you are sending it to will be able to read
> it.
> 
> 
> Try Scribus at:
> http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/about.html
> 
> 
> Or try ImPress at:
> http://www.ntlug.org/~ccox/impress/index.html
> 
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Chad
> 




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Re: [expert] [Fwd: New Bill attempts to regulate hardware, softwaredevelopment]

2002-04-02 Thread J. Craig Woods

Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> 
> Conservative revisionism?  WTF? By who's reckoning?  I've been watching
> the democratic and republican parties with interest for the last three
> years, and I can assure you that the democrats-liberals have ALWAYS been
> behind both the constitutional rights erosion AND are the primary dildos
> of entertainment industry's attack on open source.  The only
> "revisionism" around here is LIBERAL revisionism; HELLO  THEY
> CONTROL THE MEDIA!!

Hot damn, LX! The more I see you post, the more I can see just how
intelligent you are. I couldn't have said this better. As a great French
leader once said (OK Mandrake folks, you should know who he is, and, no,
it is not the "Big Asparagus"), "If you are twenty and you are not a
socialist, you do not have a heart but if you are forty and you are a
socialist, you do not have a brain".
 
> 
> Yeah, there are some liberals and turncoats in republican clothing out
> there, but it is almost exclusively the democrats-liberals that have
> control of the media; what any liberal reports to the media is accepted
> without question, no matter what credentials (wether they exist or no),
> while anything contributed by a "conservative" is not even given the
> time of day. "Politically Incorrect" was a prime example of liberal
> media in action. They control the pathetic quotient of the public
> educational system(which is liberal as a result); they push taxes, gun
> control, and anything else that might help to weaken and further enslave
> the middle class.  They are the true cancer of this nation and should be
> eliminated totally from power.  It's time that the people fighting the
> good fight rise up against these corrupt lying hypocrites and get them
> purged from our national structure.

As one poster pointed out, it is not an accident that California's
Finestein is a big proponent of this kind of elitism. Tell the liberals
and the Hollywood elitist to leave our money, guns, and computers alone.

> 
> Now they percieve open source as a threat to their gravy train and they
> know they cannot beat it on technical ground; therefore they are going
> to legislate it out of existence.  Well, they can kiss my a$$; it aint
> going to happen if myself and others of like mind short circuit their
> elitist anti competitive chess game.

Wake up call!

-- 
J. Craig Woods
UNIX/NT Network/System Administration

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[expert] How to set path in mdk

2002-04-02 Thread Gadir --

How to put a group of folders into my

- PATH environment
- LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable.
- LD_LIBRARY_PATH
- TCL_LIBRARY environmental variable.



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Re: [expert] Re: linuxconf or webmin?

2002-04-02 Thread David Guntner

J. Craig Woods grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> 
> And a very good thought it is. Would be nice to see such a utility made
> for Linux (maybe there already is). Sun does this somewhat for Solaris
> but IBM takes the prize with a very useful utility called "SMIT" for
> AIX. With "SMIT" or its CLI alternative called "smitty" you can choose
> your operation, and it will generate the command with all of the
> appropriate switches and args. Very cool concept indeed.

Yea, it was.  I've admin'd AIX systems, and I remember SMIT now that you 
mention it.  Very cool utility.

> 
> Hey, David, why don't you write such a program. I think perl would be
> the language of choice. Let me know when you are finish, and I will give
> it a go...
> 

Uh, yea :-)  It'll be ready Real Soon Now 

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