Re: [expert] spamassassin?

2003-11-15 Thread David E. Fox
> Is /usr/bin/spamd even still there? And /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf?

Yes to both.

> My thoughts on this are that it's high time that you copied off all of
> your tweaked config files (after going over each one with a fine-toothed

You're right -- I'm procrastinating on this one. I'm just reticent to do 
it because it means going out and getting a bunch more RPMs of things I
already have again.
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Re: [expert] Clean up old logs

2003-11-15 Thread David E. Fox
> My firewall has been up and running for the last 2 years now. While trying =
> to cleanup the partitions I noticed a wholalotta log files from various stu=

Please don't post HTML.

Adrian, isn't logrotate working? Or do you want to clean the stuff up 
now? At any rate, find would do the job:

# find . -type f /var/log -mtime 30 | xargs rm

That gets rid of files modified over 30 days ago.

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[expert] Help - my box has been compromised!

2003-11-05 Thread David E. Fox

Folks - especially postfix people - I need some help - 
my box seems to have been turned into an open relay. I am
running the same postfix configuration file I had installed 
when I was running 9.0 and later versions (currently I 
am running 9.2/cooker)..


I have not been able to post to the list or send out any
smtp email until I fix this and in the meantime have
simply flushed (deleted) the outgoing queue in /var/spool
/postfix via 

  # find . /var/spool/postfix -type -f | xargs exec rm

which (quickly) removes it. I removed many megabytes' worth
of stuck email this way earlier today only to find that at
9 pm there was 4 megs more waiting and my isp admin had sent
me a mail saying he disabled my smtp.


I was under the impression postfix was relay proof - any
advice will be helpful...

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[expert] help - my box might be a relay

2003-11-04 Thread David E. Fox
hey - help!

it's seemingly apparent that in the last week or two there seems to
be an increasing number of mails of a dubious nature being sent to
a large number of bogus addresses by yours truly  :(.

I'm not a spammer but it seems that my mailing system (postfix) is
misconfigured -- but I was under the impression that postfix was
relay-proof. I have seen evidence though of some chinese sites 
"masquerading" as m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com, probably forging headers
somewhere along the line. It further seems that mail is injected here
and then attempts are made to send the sh*t off to other places.

I have not gotten any complaints but as of now 22:30pm pst 11/4 there is
approximately 2.3 megabytes' worth of mail trying to get out.

1) I want to simply remove these messages. How do I do this? I have not yet
come across a queue removal program - like lprm - for mail. Can (or should)
I just delete all the files underneath /var/spool/postfix/{defer,etc,deferred,
etc} - i.e, keep the directory structure intact but do somehting like

find /var/spool/postfix -type f | xargs grep rm

Is that dangerous?

Secondly, using a fairly stock configuration for postfix, is there some-
thing I've missed? I can attach my configuration if needed. I have 
basically kept the same one intact since I initially reinstalled 9.0
and upgraded to various levels of cooker over the past few months.

HELP ;)

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[expert] wma file conversion?

2003-09-23 Thread David E. Fox
Hello list,

Anyone done this before? I was on vacation and managed to have my
system automatically capture a radio show and save it off in mplayer's
stream dump format, which it identifies as wma. I'm attempting to 
explode it into a wav suitable for burning, but I can't get the
mencoder command to do anything but segfault.


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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-13 Thread David E. Fox
> Something must be wrong then. It is a 4 minute song and it doesn't matter what 
> the zoom is and nothing I do causes it to progress like it should. Weird. 

It would seem so. Are you importing the mp3 directly, rr is it in a wav?

I'm not at my system now to check these things out -- right now I'm accessing
my system via remote ssh from my parent's house and will be on my way to 
Portland, OR tomorrow.

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Re: [expert] 9.1 /home in 9.2

2003-09-13 Thread David E. Fox
> add programs and data, will this affect my use of the home directory when
> I go back to 9.1? Is there a way to access files in one program from the

Any changes you make in /home are not "part of" Mandrake so it wouldn't make
much difference if you were to go back to 9.1 from 9.2. That said, there 
are dot files in your home diredctory which may need upgrading or 
downgrading, as a result of executing programs in 9.2 and thenn re-
executing them in 9.1.

One other thing I noticed when I did the upgrade is that the groups got
changed around - different gid numbers from /etc/passwd. That can make it
a bit difficult if you need to access files in /home. But a quick 
chown will address that issue - so long as you make sure to get the dot-
files and dot-directories to change ownerships along with the rest of the
files. 


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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-13 Thread David E. Fox
> Now a basic question that maybe I'm doing something wrong. When you open a 
> song, there is a blinking cursor across the graph. I would expect this to 

It does over here. Maybe the zoom isn't set right -- because if the song
is long enough, you won't see the progress bar move very much.

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Re: [expert] Video processing box

2003-09-13 Thread David E. Fox
> a 900 MHz processor (though 512MB RAM).  I had thought of adding a 
> firewire card to the new box when I buy the new camcorder.

Mine's an Athlon 1000 with 256k ram, probably not enough hardware for
video editing. I have tried cinelerra off and on with avi and mpeg
files I already have (no camcorder). 

> I had planned for 512MB RAM - are you saying that's not really enough?

Well, dunno. 256 megs doesnt' seem to be enough. I think 512megs would
be enough, but you may be better off with SCSI drives. scsi is quite
expensive though.

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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
> my xmms, and every other audio tool I've ever used have never had this problem 
> here. So that is why I was kind of lost. I've never had to use wrappers etc. 
> Kind of caught me off guard. I had remembered reading about wine or something 

xmms here, pretty much same thing. noatun won't connect, neither will
kaboodle (current cooker). noatun complains about a missing arts, and
kaboodle sits there doing nothing. But if another tool will do the job,
I'll just go use that tool.

> Just had a wierd experience. Audacity loads just fine. It loads the file just 
> fine, but then when you hit play nothing. ?? No progression of the bar, no 

I just posted about an issue with it but then I was trying to import an
mplayer dump stream directly. That doesn't seem to work.

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[expert] asf files / mplayer & saving

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
I'm on a trip in a day or so and am looking for a way to automate
recording (via mplayer) of some radio shows while I am gone. The
recording I think I can figure out -- using a command like

$ mplayer -streamdump  -cache 128

but I get a file that's ASF. It also (on the site I'm using) gives
a monaural signal. When I play the stream back, I can visually see 
it as stereo in xine. Audacity brings it in but it seems to be corrupted,
as all I get out of it is a wierd screech sound that lasts for about
two seconds. Also that's what is in my .wav file when I try and export 
it to wav format using audacity.  So there must be some sort of conversion
I'm missing.

My other option is to do some of this manually through an sshd connection
but I don't believe I will have internet access during my trip.

Any suggestions? I also need to stop the stream at a predetermined time. I
saw a writeup about this, issue #94 of Linux Gazette, although it's
emphasizing ecasound and encoding local FM through a radio card.
 

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Re: [expert] root-tail

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
> It is something to do with root-tail, but I can't figure out what it
> is... :-(

Isn't root-tail some feature of reiserfs? Or am I missing sometning
here?

According to 'man top' it seems -b just sends lines of top through to
stdout until a limit has been reached or until the process is killed.

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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
> Yep! You are genius! Thanks so much. Now let me ask why I need to do this... 
> Is this because of a bug or the way the application was designed, or is it 
> like a gnome product that I'm trying to use in KDE? 

I don't think it has anything to do with gnome. Audacity I believe 
uses some of the gtk+ libraries - it does seem to have that look and
feel. But 99% of the time I can get by without needing artswrapper - the
other times I can work around it. Only once in a while would something
like xmms refuse to play a location because of an arts dependency - and
those few times I can reort to mpg123 or some other player. Unfortunately,
kaboodle & noatun have trouble (cooker with latest KDE) for sometime. But
there are alternatives, not necessarily so with audacity.

> Thanks to EVERYONE for all the help. I do believe I finally have an editor to 
> cut the screech out of my songs. :) I"m not a happy camper and I didn't even 

No, leave it in, it sounds better that way :).

But audacity does include quite a bit of tools for audio file editing. I've 
only managed to scratch the surface.


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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-10 Thread David E. Fox
> Oh, sorry.  That's weird.  I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I 
> looked at.  What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker 

I concur - audacity is good for mp3/wav editing - provided you have
enough spare disk space. If you don't, don't try to save the project as
a project file in your home directory. I use /tmp for most everything 
for that, since I don't have a lot of room left in /home and /tmp has 
several gigs available (editing roughly an hour's length of wav file 
will need close to 2.1 gigs of space).

But what's 'hackaudacity'?

 
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Re: [expert] Sending mail throughout several smtp servers?

2003-09-07 Thread David E. Fox
> messages throughout the University server (correo.um.es) and viceversa, I
> can't send messages  from a computer located in the Uniersity throughout the
> mail-server at home (smtp.ono.com).

Well, here' s a thought.. is your home box set up for ssh? Could you
use putty (highly recommended for windows) and just log onto your
system remotely from the uni and send mail using elm?

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Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation

2003-09-06 Thread David E. Fox
> I have done this with a winblows program and still have some disks like this, 
> up to 1.72mb which was very handy at times. I don't know how to achieve this 

Use a special device for that format you want. I'd suggest first trying

# fdformat /dev/fd0h1660

see what happens. Back in the old days and I think that's still true, 
you'd use the special form of /dev/fd0 (for instance /dev/fd0h1440) when
formatting only. 

As I recall, uppercase "H" was for 5.25" and lowercase 'h' for 3.5".

I don't know offhand what the 'u' is. Maybe 'unformatted' but that
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Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation

2003-09-06 Thread David E. Fox
>fdutils, includes among other utilities, superformat. But it's 
> only for formatting DOS file system floppy's. Won't work for an 

What would be the difference between a 10 sector per track DOS 
file system floppy and an ext2 fs floppy? I don't mean from a file
system standpoint, I know the differences, but from a hardware 
standpoint, what is it about ext2 that makes it harder to use 
higher-capacity format disks? 

Or does superformat simply make a DOS image? You still could 
make a bigger disk with 'fdformat' and go that route, right? It's 
been some time since I really used floppies much, so I'm just not 
understanding this point. I trink 1.6 meg would work but the media
could not be all that reliable. I do recall the problems when I first 
started using Linux - I used to tell people that they had better use 
known good and reliable disks for the boot/root combos as those were
native linux and back then if you had floppies with bad sectors, you 
were essentially out of luck.


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Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation

2003-09-02 Thread David E. Fox
> Define successful?

Doing it without running out of disk space would be successful. Of course, 
if it actually boots the right partition it would be even better.

I've been able to do this in 9.0. LX and I hashed over this; it seems 
that the kernels are SoBig :) now that there's not enough room on the floopy
for syslinux/grub (or lilo)/initrd and the kernel.
 
> Boots the system with some problems identifying the CD ROM as an SCSI device 
> with dialogue to change devices, asks does one want to run the configuration 

Have you done this with 9.2?

> I may not create a boot floppy the right way? This is also on a standard 
> kernel. 2.4.21-0.13mdk

Hmm. How big was that?

1337954 Aug 25 08:47 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1mdk


> Format floppy to DOS filesystem
> Place into the floppy drive but do not mount

Back in the "old days":

format floppy
cp /boot/zImage /dev/fd0
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdX

That's from memory, and I may have the parameters reversed. It was always
a trick remembering the order for rdev. The intent is to simply ocpy the
kernel onto a good floppy and then rdev it -- this sets the root device, 
which you'd fill in with wherever your root happened to be.

If we go back to that mode, at least the kernel will fit on the floppy
by itself. If not, it's time to figure out why the kernels in 9.x are 
SoBig ;). In particular, lots of stuff is modularized so they're not in 
the monolithic kernel image.

Otherwise, hack drakboot to make disks with more sectors per track
than the "default" DOS format. After all, we aren't running DOS, so why
stick with 1.44mb floppies if you can tweak the format for 1.6 meg? 


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Re: [expert] spoofed?

2003-09-02 Thread David E. Fox
> Get a router/NAT/firewall that enables spoof protection.

Well, yep. I was hoping for something I could do in software to detect 
and or stop this gremlin. 

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Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-02 Thread David E. Fox
> hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins.

Well, it was gremlins in the other system -- actually the power cable to the
drives was a bit flaky, so anything that would access the drive (ex. df, ls,
etc.) would hang, with a corresponding linear increase in the overall
load average.

This time, it's different -- and it seems to have gone away in the last
urpmi --auto-select.

> lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up
> at 4 or 5?

msec is standard; I don't raise it higher. root would hang as well as a user.
No difference there.

Reboot & urpmi seems to have fixed this problem -- now there's no kicker 
panel on my kde. D&*thing came up in twm :(

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[expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only
seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power
to my HD drives.

And that was with an older system.

Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the
shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup
and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These
processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at
present it is over 20.

Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks
each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of 
course, they are.

Oh well, reboot time again.

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
> As I said, the problem with the gui does not (for me) preclude using the 
> command line urpmi.addmedia.  It might help to replace the files you 

No, it shouldn't. I figured that it might be easier to add the
distribution media (actually replace them, based on new content) with
the media manager. I found that adding in the distribution media via
urpmi.addmedia will work, but it's failing on asking for a disk change,
see my other post to the list on this.

> rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
> ?

Not relevant to my situation. It was missing directories. It sometimes
helps to do an strace if one comes across some sort of an error message
- it's usually going to offer a clue as to what files it's trying to
access at that point.

In my situation, the "urpmi database locked" comes from not being able
to access the directory /var/lib/urpmi. I created it manually, and it
works. But urpmi should have been able to detect the missing
files/directories and rebuild from scratch. It would have had to do this
following a new install.

> 
> Did you urpmi.removemedia -a
> ?

Yes, but not the way I should have -- I ended up just removing the 
/etc/urpmi files :(.  

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
> Look for a lock file (.lck ?) probably in the same directory as the 
> urpmi sources or under /var. Then delete it.

Nothing there. Well, I fixed at least partially the problem by remaking
urpmi directories underneath /var/lib and /var/cache just to be on the
safe side. Adding distribution media was not too difficult but I'm not
sure I did it properly -- for instance, installing Open Office from the
9.1rc1 distribution media gave 'I can't find it" messages because many
of the base packages for that are on CD #2. It should have asked to
change disks, rather than have me redo the urpmi with cd#2 inserted.

I'm off to rebuild the rest of the urpmi database, thanks to
plf.zarb.org. Gotta love that site...

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[expert] urpmi lccked

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
This just in 

9.2 rc1 cooker... the software manager seems to be broken, and I can't
add any sources - was trying to revamp the sources to include the new CDs 
as opposed to the old ones. Software Manager quietly dies after I tell it
where to go for the CD.

Also I tried to add in cooker main and contrib and can't get anywyere...
so I just removed /etc/urpmi and /var/lib/rurpmi etc. Now the whole urpmi 
subsystem is hosed. I just want to rebuild it from scratch, include 
main/contrib/plf as well as the local cd sources list but can't do any-
thing now as it just says the thing is locked

help

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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

2003-08-29 Thread David E. Fox
> Changelog? Are you talking about Cooker/9.2, while Praedor is talking
> about 9.1 final? AFAICT, Texstar hasn't released any RPMs for Cooker.

9.2/cooker - here. I don't have texstar as a source. 

> 
> AIUI, both main and contrib are static repositories, whose contents do not

True for 9.1 - updates is a different repository.

As of 5:30am (god i'm up early) pdt 8/29, it's looking for a number of
roms - like libkdebase4-3.1.3-38mdk -- but AFAICT the mirror is
expecting a slightly different version of that RPM and as such cannot
install. urpmi prints out a number of ftp URLs with these RPMs but does
not download them and does not install them, and prints out a "you may
want to update your rpm database"

This happens from time to time, and it should sooner or later rectify
itself. As of 5:30 all I was able to update was plf. FWIW I use
ftp.surfnet.nl as my mirror.

If it doesn't get fixed, tnen you reset urpmi sources and start over 
afresh. I've had to do that a number of times.

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Re: [expert] urpmi problem

2003-08-29 Thread David E. Fox
> Have you tried just --auto --auto-select (using the /etc/urpmi/skiplist
> to block anything you don't want.) This way it finds what it needs on
> it's own.

I'm experiencing the same problem.

It started perhaps on Tuesday - and since then there hasn't been any
updates supposedly in main or contrib - which I find extremely odd,
since changelog is listing many listings.

My take on this is that the mirror or source repository is out of sync
with what you've downloaded, and somehow your system thinks the data is
current when it isn't.

Usually this goes away as things get synced up, but there are a number
of potential problems because it's left KDE (particularly) in an
unstable state because it cannot find many of the kde RPMs -- the
versions are out of synch. 

Incidentally, there doesn't seem to be anything in
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms, although it *looks* like some number of files got
downloaded, nothing seems to have been.

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Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!

2003-08-24 Thread David E. Fox
> Couldnt find any kind of forums there. an you supply a link?

OK. Had to click through a few screens on the nbc11.com site. The actual
fora are hosted by ibsys.com.

Here's the url - all on one line of course.

http://forums.ibsys.com/viewmessages.cfm?sitekey=bay&Forum=79&Topic=8946

And my post is there as of now. :)


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Re: [expert] mc hang

2003-08-24 Thread David E. Fox
> Right after boot and root login on tty1 it takes more than a minute for
> mc to start on 9.1. Didn't have that problem on 9.0. On screen after mc

Expect a call from Ronald Mc Donald's attorney. "mc hang" indeed.
sheesh.

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Re: [expert] MP3 to Wave

2003-08-17 Thread David E. Fox
> I highly recommend lame as in "lame --decode mostexcellent.mp3".
> 
> Only problem is that it doesn't handle converting more than one at a time.

There's always shell loops :).

Or, try the diskwriter plugin for xmms. Select the plugin via ctrl-v,
then select your files, and press play. It does all of them in one fell
swoop (tm).

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[expert] eroaster

2003-08-16 Thread David E. Fox

just installed eroaster and can't get it to work. I'm on cooker 9.2 at the moment. 
seems there are some issues with python:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dfox]$ Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-1.2/gtk.py", line 127, in __call__
ret = apply(self.func, a)
  File "/usr/lib/eroaster/main.py", line 682, in BurnWriterOptions
self.BurnCDNow()
  File "/usr/lib/eroaster/main.py", line 820, in BurnCDNow
cdrecord = cdrtools.cdrecord(channel, id, lun, self.devWriter.get_text(), 
self.cat.get_loglevel())
  File "/usr/lib/eroaster/cdrtools.py", line 106, in __init__
self.__cdrecord_read_version()
  File "/usr/lib/eroaster/cdrtools.py", line 204, in __cdrecord_read_version
self.__cdrecord_version_major = atoi(version[0])
  File "/usr/lib/python2.3/string.py", line 220, in atoi
return _int(s, base)
ValueError: invalid literal for int(): line


oh well. It gets to the conversion step, deposits some wavs in /tmp, and then 
normalizes. Maybe it's pilot error.


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Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-16 Thread David E. Fox
> Hey, a Kiss fan?! Me too! My cousin and I saw the "final" (reunited with 
> Peter) tour in Louisville a couple of years ago. Awesome stuff!

Kinda sorta. I had friends who were into it, I haven't listened to them
since vinyl days, but it brings back memories. I have a couple of kiss
cd's - one unplugged that is rather nice, and 'kiss my ass' featuring
covers of different people (garth brooks etc.) doing the songs. That one
is pretty good, and there are some interesting variants, including a 6/8
time rendition of "rock and roll all nite" that actually sounds better
than the original version (in 4/4 time).

led zep is like that too - encomium features a number of new rock
artists playing classic LZ. It features probably the wierdest rendition
of "custard pie" I've ever heard :). Plus last weekend I ripped dread
zezpelin - now that's really weird. kinda reggae / dance music versions
:).

> 
> Umm, its 70 mins for audio, right? I use Gcombusts screen to tell how many WAV 

Yeah, 74 but kiss alive ii fit just fine on a 74 min. Bet the cd version
is marketed as a 2 disk version though. What a ripoff :(.

One can supposedly calculate the required size from the wav file size,
of course, so awk (probably) to the rescue ;).

A little aside - if file would just say "this is a 44.1khz file that is
so many mins and seconds' or another quickie tool, that would be a good
thing. Otherwise I could hover the mouse on an mp3 in konqueror and get
the timings. But that's not always the case.

I guess I'll have to give gcombust another try. My experience hasn't
been all that successful for the type of stuff (namely, other than
44.1khz stereo mp3s) I've been putting on CDs.

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Re: [expert] MP3 to Wave

2003-08-16 Thread David E. Fox
> If your burning it to CD try EcliptRoaster (eroaster) it should do what
> you want.

Hmm. I have not yet tried that. Here's what I've tried,

mpg123 | sox - well, OK, but harder to automate, but only really proven
way to ensure that what you have at the end of a conversion is really a
44.1k AIFF WAV suitable for burning. That's important especially if you
have (as I do) a number of MP3s in 22050 mono or what have you. Specif-
ically, I'm doing a number of CBSRMT radio show mp3s to CDs, and these
shows are ca. 45 minutes long, so if your WAV files aren't in the 450
meg or so range, something is amiss and you'll end up with a CD of high
pitched voices, like playing a 3 3/4 ips tape at 7 1/2 ips :).

k3b - OK at the conversion step, dismal at the burn step. Often the
thing segfaults in the middle of the burn and I end up with a locked
drive, only seemingly way to rectify this is to reboot. Net result, of
course, is a coaster.

cdbakeoven -- Seemingly OK in the burn step. Conversion step not OK,
they haven't done it right. I end up with data files on the CD, and net
result is a coaster with wonderful white noise. Otherwise, I get the
wrong size WAV as described above. Very nice looking interface. I have
2.0beta source but haven't been able to compile it yet.

xcdroast - didn't like it, don't use it.

cdrecord - well great at burning the CD, what can I say :)

gcombust - not too terribly useful for mp3s. The one time I tried it,
even after ensuring I was making an audio cd and not a data cd, it wrote
mp3s to the cd as mp3s, no conversion needed ;). Good so far for data
cds, and maybe i'll try burning a cd's worth of mp3s with it if I get
that sony portable that can play mp3 cd's as well as music cd's :). 

xmms-diskwriter: well this will do the job of mp3 to wav conversion when
others fail - specifically VBR encoded files. I had mpg123, mplayer and
lame --decode all fail with segmentation faults/core dump when I was
trying to do this last night. Very easy to use, just select the
diskwriter plugin, path etc., then select the files you want, and it
puts WAVs in the directory, then run cdrecord. Downside - doesn't know
that it needs to resample 22050 mono to 44100 stereo - I just tried that
with a file this morning.

mplayer - well dumpstream is an option but it doesn't do any conversion,
just seems to end up with a stream dump file in the same format as the
original. It also segfaulted when presented with a VBR mp3.

I got a number of spare cdrs so maybe I'll try eroaster :).

Magnus writes;

> > I know this is a little bit of topic but can anyone recommend a good=20
> > program that converts MP3 to Wave with really nice quality ?

Well I am not sure what is meant by 'really nice quality' since the
wav can only be as good as the original mp3. For most serious
conversion, I use a mpg123 pipeline to sox, and ensure that all the
rates, channels are set up for the input as well as output formats. OK
for one at a time deals but a bit harder to automate because the
filenames are usually long with lots of saces like 'foo fighers 1 of 14
something song.mp3 :) 

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Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-15 Thread David E. Fox
> If you mean pick .MP3 and wind up with an audio track on your disk in one fell 
> swoop...well, I've never tried that. I always converted a bunch of MP3s with 

That's precisely what I'm trying to do. BTW, the xmms-diskwriter thingy
worked fine - I just su over, run cdrecord and give him all the wav
files. I'm the proud "owner" of a new Ween CD :).

Now I'm getting kiss alive II :) guess I'll be up all night :).
Originally this was a double lp. Maybe it'll all fit on one CD.

> the diskwriter plugin in XMMS, then ran normalize on them to equal everything 
> out, then used Gcombust to burn them as audio tracks to disk. (BTW, this 

I don't think I can find fault with that method. What I am looking for
is an easier way to automate much of the background processing, and when
burning a set of mp3s in wav for cd, making sure I can fit the # of mp3
files to the CD, and not run out of room. It's simpler of course to do
that in a GUI.

I like cdbakeoven's interface btw. It'll keep track of the time your
tracks use as well as give you an indication of how much space you've
wasted. 

For much of what I've been recording, straight mp3 to wav conversion
proves effective since I'm just burning single radio shows (OTR) to the
cd. But I have a couple where I think I could get 2 or maybe three on 1
cd and being sure I don't run out of room helps. I don't want to try
overburn jsut yet :). These aren't typical 44.1k stereo things; that's
where the sampling rate needs to match in the decoding process. 


> Yes, I can pick individual viles, groups, or whole directories with it. Very 
> handy, just change the audio i/o to diskwriter, make your selection, hit play 

Ok... yes, as I tried that, it works just fine. I'll have to remember to
do that - especially when confronted with vbr's in the future.


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Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-15 Thread David E. Fox
 
> David - I missed that thread (well, actually I just didn't follow it - I use 
> Gcombust without problem here). Anyways, have you tried the diskwriter plugin 

I'm going to give gcombust another try. Specifically, did you see my
comment about it making data copies of the mp3s rather than doing the
decoding? I'm pretty sure I selected audio cd and not data cd.


> with XMMS to see if the resulting WAV file is acceptable for you to use?

I installed it, and configured it, but I'm not sure that it's convenient
from an automation standpoint. I'll try and see if I can just select all
the files and run them through en masse with xmms-diskwriter.

Seems like it might actually work. I added the files and selected the
diskwriter and it's a disk writin' :)

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[expert] decoding a VBR mp3

2003-08-15 Thread David E. Fox
Hello - 

In a prior post (subject K3b & cdwriter) I explained the method I use
for decoding mp3s to wav files so I can make a CD from them. I mentioned
that I was planning on scrapping this because mpg123 fails to play the
file(s) in question. So (presumably) decoding via mpg123 is not an
option here.

What I subsequently found -- mplayer to the rescue. At least mplayer
will play them when mpg123 refuses to do so. I also tried lame to decode
one of these files, and the result is a segmentation fault preceded by
a number of unsupported messages relating to bitstream resyncing and
frequency changes. The process (in comparison with mpg123 piping to sox)
is *significantly* slower. 

I'm thinking along the lines "if mplayer can play it, it should be able
to decode it." mplayer -streamdump  dumps core. :( And the
(incomplete) dumped stream is in mp3 format. Somehow I don't think it's
going to work.

I imagine folks here have tried this before. Any help?


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Re: [expert] k3b & CD writer

2003-08-15 Thread David E. Fox
> Known issue with k3b.  You must disable supermount.

Hmm. That might explain some of the issues I have had with it; mostly
what seems to be permission related, although permissions seem to be
right, and dfox is a member of the cdwriter group. Occasionally it just
craps out saying that it's only able to burn an image. (But at least if
that crashes, you're not out a CD, and can redo the image and burn later
with cdrecord.) :)

> k3b is not very good as far as I'm concerned.  gcombust does everything
> I want and more.

I have not as of yet been able to correctly put a number of mp3s on an
audio cd. It still thinks I want to make a data cd containing the audio
mp3s. k3b (at least so far) seems to correctly recognize the sampling
rate and converts properly to a wave format file. Others have proven not
very successful at this. k3b is OK if I make images - at least some of
the time.

I can (and usually do) manually convert via a pipeline between mpg123
and sox for this. That's not too difficult, but batching up a bunch and
converting en masse is more difficult to automate. Not only that, the
GUIs are easier to use when it comes to putting a number of (converted)
mp3s on a cd and being able to estimate how much space, and how long,
the disk will be.

For instance, I'm in usenet now and there's another ween cd ready for me
to download and convert and make a new cd from :). My approach for this
will likely be the same for the other ones: do the mpg123 to wav
conversion one at a time, to files in /tmp named '01.wav 02.wav 03.wav'
and then cdrecording all these files at once.

Or maybe yet - maybe I will scrap this as playing the first mp3 results
in an error "big values too large" and an error "Illegal Audio-Mpeg
header in input." The post says they're vbr's encoded with mmjb. 


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Re: [expert] Pan articles expiry

2003-08-15 Thread David E. Fox
> Is there not a way to tell Pan to delete all articles older than x 
> days?  I can't find it.

I can't find it either. Sorting by date and then flagging the articles
for delete might work. But it takes a long time... actually I'm wanting
to do this as well as I had difficulties with Pan eating up all
available memory and swap when requested to get new headers for about a
dozen or so subscribed groups. It seems my news server keeps articles
for quite sometime, and Pan wants to keep headers around for all of them
too, and the result is over 3/4 of a million (!) articles in these
groups.

I solved that last problem by nuking the .pan directory and starting
over.

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[expert] PDF haywire

2003-08-14 Thread David E. Fox
OK Well I have received a pdf file from overseas I want to print out.
It's only 4 pages, and it's about 190K. Neither konqueror or kghostview
will read it, but xpdf or acroread will. Printing is not possible as it
launches a perl from kprinter that quickly gobbles up all RAM and swap
(and I have 256 emgs RAM and 800 megs roughly of swap).

pdfinfo says:


Title:CRI article 7 p34-37 OK
Author:   G4 User
Creator:  QuarkXPressª: LaserWriter 8 Z1-8.7.1
Producer: Acrobat Distiller 5.0.5 for Macintosh
CreationDate: Mon Jul 28 13:29:44 2003
ModDate:  Mon Jul 28 13:29:44 2003
Tagged:   no
Pages:4
Encrypted:no
Page size:666 x 907 pts
File size:190038 bytes
Optimized:yes
PDF version:  1.4

Is that of any concern? It doesn't just seem to be this file alone, but
other pdf files I have also can't be opened with the KDE tools. I am
running cooker ATM and will check on this after I do another upgrade.

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Re: [expert] cdbakeoven first try bad

2003-08-14 Thread David E. Fox
> Why are you not sticking with Gcombust?  Is there something it can't
> accomplish that you need done?

Well, I'll have to think about it. gcombust will do the job, and I've
had luck with it. At the same time though, I like the interfaces in
cdbakeoven and k3b better. They also (supposedly) are able to just 
drag and drop the mp3 onto the thing and go off and convert & burn
all by themselves -- with, supposedly, the extra software to do this. At
least k3b is up front about what software is needed and lets you know
what it finds. cdbakeoven is a little lacking in this. At least that's
my impression. Plu k3b has video cd support but I haven't tried this -
it's on the 'to-do' list now that I can rip dvd's supposedly - but
that's the subject of another set of posts :).

I'm giving gcombust another try - drag and drop an mp3 into it and
see what it does. I'll use a CDRW so I don't coaster :).
 
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[expert] cdbakeoven first try bad

2003-08-14 Thread David E. Fox
I'm using what seems to be an old version of cdbakeoven after someone
(who shall remain nameless) suggested I try cdbakeoven after letting 
him know of my issues with k3b crashing in the midst of a burn. (On
that, I can simulate the writing and just use k3b for the conversion
and do the actual writing with cdrecord).

But cdbakeoven was worth a try so I grabbed it off of a cooker contrib
mirror - at least I think it was one; the rpm hasn't been updated since
last August.

cdbakeoven-1.8.9-5mdk is the rpm I installed yesterday. It seems easy
enough to operate, yet there must be something wrong in the setup -
especially the programs it uses to do the conversion(s) from mp3 to 
wave format suitable for audio CDs. I got a burn all right, but 
I got a burn of only 1/4th or so of what I expected, and when I popped
the CD into my CD player, I got white noise. Another coaster, I guess.

Has anyone else noticed this? Are there settings I should pay attention
to?

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Re: [expert] playing .ra files (2)

2003-08-06 Thread David E. Fox
I followed John Brouhard's suggestion and checked edit/preferences
in mozilla. Now it does bring up xine, but has trouble with the
plugin rpm from brazil that I got from his other message.

Xine is telling me that it lacks a plugin for Real Audio. Specifically,
it doesn't know how to handle RealAudio COOK, whatever that is. It
points out that libcook.so.6 is not installed. I don't seem to have that
library here. I tried variants of 'urpmf /usr/lib/cook' - nothing.

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Re: [expert] Playing .ra files

2003-08-06 Thread David E. Fox
> The rpm puts the plugin in /usr/lib/xine-plugin/xine-plugin.so. Just
> copy this file to the mozilla plugin directory and you will have

John, that might just be a fantastic tip, but I can't seem to make
it work. I have a link which the rpm provided, in 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Clicking on a radio station now that
offers Real Media playback just causes mozilla to crash with
a sig 11. Do I need to do anything else? I found no plugins or
helpers in $HOME/.mozilla. Should there be?

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Re: [expert] playing .ra files (2)

2003-08-05 Thread David E. Fox
> http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/
> 
> Go here and download the RealPlayer9 and w32codec rpms. You will get
> support for that.

I have the rpm's - specifically 0.52 of thw w32codec. But I already
have w32codecs from plf. I am therefore getting conflicts between the
two rpms. Should I then uninstall the plf and install the one from .br?

w32codec just seems to provide win32 dlls and other files as I would
expect. I found the 'cook' lib in users/Real/Codecs underneath 
the RealPlayer9 dir. Should I try making a symlink?

Trying a symlink into /usr/lib doesn't give an error for the 'cook'
lib, but it says it can't find a demuxer plugin for the url I
specified. In the error details, I get a message that the demuxer
failed to start, but that it did find a demuxer plugin.

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[expert] i'm up

2003-08-03 Thread David E. Fox
Hey ... 

all done. 

cooker 9.2 is installed and ready. Sound was a bit of an
issue (as it always seems to be) the stock kernel could
not insmod the emu10k1 device, or couldn't find it. I 
attempted to insmod it manually and got a list of 
unresolved symbols.

Next, instaled multimedia kernel, and along the way picked
up a number of extra things, like k3b, gcombust, mplayer,
audacity, etc.

Booting with the mm kernel gives me sound so at least that
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[expert] About to plunge

2003-08-03 Thread David E Fox
Well.,...

After looking to the Twiki pages on how to verify good burned CDs of
ISOs, I burned new copies of the Cooker CDs and verified that their
md5sums were all correct.

Also the command I used to record 'cdrecord -dev 1,2,0 -speed 4
-data ${ISOIMAGE}' needed -dao to give a completed correct burn.
Otherwise, I end up with a CD with a K or so missing. I don't
remember whether I included -dao when I burned 9.1 CDs a few 
weeks ago. I was pretty green then.

I also verified that drakfloppy booted /dev/hdb6 -- my current
working partition. It did - and it didn't hang like it did before, 
so that's a good sign.

So, here goes 9.2 :)


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[expert] About to plunge.

2003-08-03 Thread David E Fox

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[expert] time drift

2003-08-02 Thread David E Fox

Hi

On a previous message I noted my issue with kde's clock having the
wrong timezone. Still haven't sorted that out. But I noticed today that
the system's time was wrong - still the right timezone but about 20
minutes off PDT using the 'popcorn' service (speaking clock). 

I apparently sync to time.nrc.ca, that's the one I picked, but if
it's the source of the bad time, maybe the time is different in
Canada?

Back when I installed I seem to recall there was a list of available
time servers, but I haven't seen where this list is stored post-install.


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Re: [expert] Making / Verifying 9.2beta ISOs

2003-08-02 Thread David E Fox
> You need to add the -dao flag to cdrecord if you want to be able to 
> run successfully md5sum against the finished CD:

Hmm. Well, I read the other posts, checked out the web page that
was being referenced - and that's a cool tip. Despite using
'dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat format=%s /tmp/MandrakeCD2image` 
| md5sum ' as recommended (essentially it dd's the filesize, so it
ignores padding) I get different results. I also get an "input/output"
error from dd right at the end. As mentioned, the size of the first
CD (I just burned CD #2) is off by a K or two. 

After I posted, I did as I suggested, which was to loopback mount the
first ISO someplace, and mount the burned CD, and run 'diff -r' be-
tween the two. It got to someplace in what looked like Afrikaans
help files and quit with an input output error. I could not 'cat'
that file off the mounted CD-ROM. It may be minor enough (since I
don't speak Afrikaans) that I can still install but I'm going to
try -dao on CD #3 and try that -v switch. When I burned these CD's I 
did not see any errors from cdrecord.

And (boohoo) I only have one cdrw in my collection :(. But I got 
nearly 100 CD-Rs. I hope they're not like the old 3 for $1.00 audio
tapes I used to get when I was a kid -- only good for speech (i.e,
mp3's) and not serious stuff :).


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Re: [expert] kcheckers

2003-07-30 Thread David E Fox
> finally got a chance to look at this again and found that someone put an
> RPM up -- had to install it with --nodeps, but it works.

That's neat. I already compiled it though :).

Anyway, it would be nice to have an rpm for gtkatlantic and play
some Monopoly on the net :). I've been successful at compiling but
some others need RPMs. But I haven't tried to make an rpm in a 
very long time :(. It's becoming ever more popular.

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Re: [expert] kcheckers

2003-07-30 Thread David E Fox
> I had to edit the Makefile and specify the location of $(QTDIR), then
> specify that qmake lives in $(QTDIR)/bin before make qmake would
> succeed. After doing that, make fails:

I first tried it and couldn't make it work. Then I remembered having to
set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3) and then it went all the way through. I
was surprised there was no ./configure present. At any rate I'll go
install it. "su - root" well - keep in mind that the 'su' makes a
new environment, so you need to reset QTDIR again. It's a pretty
simple install, only two files.

> pdn.cpp:2:19: qfile.h: No such file or directory
> In file included from pdn.cpp:5:
> pdn.h:5:25: qstringlist.h: No such file or directory

Well, urpmf /usr/include/qstringlist.h - if set up. Maybe
you left out a development rpm. It may not live in /usr/include
precisely. Actually, here it is part of /usr/lib/qt3/include, 
and inside qt3-devel. 'locate qfile.h' shows it also in /usr/lib/qt3
/include, not in /usr/include. On some systems, it would be symlinked
to /usr/include/qt or something.

> I noticed that a binary is included, but it fails to run because
> Mandrake doesn't use the same naming convention as the developer's


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Re: [expert] Test

2003-07-28 Thread David E Fox
hey

> 

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Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
> It sounds like you installed the kernel rpm in rescue mode.  When you do
> that, it grabs the current kernel commandline and attempts to keep all

That may explain what happened. You might know that originally I managed
to hose (or I think I did) my /dev/hdb7 install which was cooker, when
installing a new DVD/CDRW combo drive last weekend. I rebooted the
system (which had been rebooted before, successfully) and the system
hung completely at "finding module dependencies" (I think).

I couldn't boot /dev/hdb7 so I installed mandrake 9.0 on /dev/hdb6. Then
I had to install all the missing things (only had one CD of that) just
to get to the point where I could burn CDs. I managed to download all
three 9.1 ISOs and burn them. I started to reinstall 9.1, and the
box locked up solidly just before the "exit install" step. 

So, back to square 1. I tried other things too, and that's maybe when 
I screwed up. ATM, /dev/hdb6 has a 9.0 that's been partially upgraded
to cooker. /dev/hdb7 still exists, I just can't boot it, but it'll 
probably not work since /var has been rebuilt since then (/dev/hda1)
so /var/lib/rpm and so forth are way out of sync with respect to
what's on /dev/hdb7. So I might as well stick it out with what I have,
at least until I have a stable enough cooker from which to burn from. (I
mirror usually 2x a day with wget from ftp.sunet.se.) And everything else,
I get via urpmi.

(James has been helpful I'll admit -- thanks James)...

Now ATM I have a working setup - the CD issue seems to have fixed
itself, dunno why. But I can only boot in failsafe mode. Otherwise,
I get either 1) same issue with respect to the hang at module dependencies
or 2) can't find the root filesystem. Once failsafe boots, telinit 3 can
bring up the rest of the system, and then I can startx.

So - moral - don't reboot :). 

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Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
> 
>   Try this move /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf.bkp
> 
> then create a new lilo.conf this way

Hmm. I tried something along those lines and still had the
same issue. 2419-35 boots in vga mode and tries to find the
root partition, then panics. 'linux' starts up but can't get
past the fixing module dependencies stage.. I still haven't been able
to sort that out. 'failsafe' works; at least i can get up to telinit
3.

About the cdrw - seems ok now, after a power cycle. The drive would
just sit there with the drive light on when I inserted a blank 
cdr and not when I inserted a written CD. 

So now I'm burning yet another CD. k3b managed to choke and burn
and that was the start of the trouble.

I can't for the life of me -- at least not yet -- figure out the
issue with respect to the fixing module dependencies step... :( it
would be nice to know wtf is going on at that point. It was the
reason why I "lost" /dev/hdb7, my more or less up to date cooker
with all the goodies :).

I'm gonna save off this message and compare it to the existing
/etc/lilo.conf.

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[expert] followup to boot failure message

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
I think I found a problem in /etc/lilo.conf

Originally I had /dev/ram3 in the 2.4.19-35 image, and that
didn't work. Also I noticed boot= set to /dev/hda, which is
/var, and my boot is on /dev/hdb. However, I have a boot.0300
file. I'm going to switch it back to /dev/hda for now. I think
my lilo is stored in /dev/hda for some reason, and I don't want
to fiddle.

The only thing I can think of to explain the 'finding module dependencies'
issue is the presence of 'append devfs=nomount' vs 'yes' in the appended
lilo.conf. One stanza says yes (mount), the other says no. But does that
explain not being able to use the cdrecorder?

And I was incorrect on the kernel issue. Apparently both are using linux
2.4.19-35mdk, since vmlinuz points there. I've set it up so that one will
boot 2.4.19-16, the other 2.4.19-35. But I don't think that will make
much difference.

I'll try and reboot the 'linux' image now and report back.


boot=/dev/hdb
map=/boot/map
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hdb6
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-35mdk
label=2419-35
root=/dev/hdb6
read-only
optional
vga=788
append=" initrd=alt0/all.rdz ramdisk_size=32000 "
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-35mdk.img

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[expert] cdrecorder not working 2.19.35.

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
Help

It seems after going from telinit1 to telinit3 on my previous 
problem leaves the CD-RW (Toshiba SD 1312) unable to record a
CD.

I'm getting this from cdrecord -checkdrive:

scsidev: '1,2,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 2 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'TOSHIBA '
Identifikation : 'DVD-ROM SD-R1312'
Revision   : '1011'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R

Yet when I try and burn a cd: Note this was working with my
default linux 2.4.19 (rev 16?) boot 'linux' but that won't boot
because of the fixing module dependencies problem. This is from
failsafe, which made it through that step.

scsidev: '1,2,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 2 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'TOSHIBA '
Identifikation : 'DVD-ROM SD-R1312'
Revision   : '1011'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 57 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x57 Qual 0x00 (unable to recover table-of-contents) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 40s
cdrecord: CD/DVD-Recorder not ready.


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[expert] boot failure

2003-07-26 Thread David E Fox
I did it again.. had to reboot. Mixed 9.0 cooker hodgepodge after
1 week of installing stuff and having to rebuild this box.

1) first thing - k3b 0.9 crashed in the midst of burning a CD,
coastered, naturally - but the cdrw light was still on. I couldn't 
eject, cdrecord said there was a long write in progress, I waited
for a long time, and still couldn't manage to get the CDR out of
the drive. So I rebooted.

2) Upon reboot, similar issue to what I experienced last week - the
system hung in the middle of "updating module dependencies" step. 
My other boot selection (linux-2.4.19-35) is stuck trying to boot from my
swap partition (01:03)... which is not going to be of use.

3) Failsafe worked, got me into telinit 1. I just tried telinit 3 and
got into the box that way, but that doesn't seem to be the best
way to do things.



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Re: [expert] DVD stuff

2003-07-21 Thread David E Fox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] DVD stuff
>
>I get the following list of installed packages:
>xine-win32-0.9.13-3plf
>libxine0-0.9.13-3plf
>xine-ui-0.9.13-2mdk

Diego - I had install problems with urpmi so I tried to feed this list to
urpmi via 'urpmi --media plf `cat file` " It says no such package. I think 
I have the wrong plf source defined. When i urpmi there is a conflict in 
that one of the files is 1.0beta and urpmi expects 0.9.13.



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Re: [expert] GPG and signing rpms.

2003-07-20 Thread David E Fox
Somebody scribbled about [expert] GPG and signing rpms.
>Ok,
>
>  Went to this page.
>
>http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3

I did as well today in preparation for remigrating to cooker (ps I would 
like very much a gtkatlantic rpm) and ran into something strange. Also I 
got some wierd pages not found, such as qa.mandrakesoft.com - I wanted to 
get the public key, so that I wouldn't get those bad signature messages 
every time I tried to urpmi. By the way, the key import worked well this 
time with plf.

Going through the directions as I type random keys on the keyboard results 
in this error:

gpg: no writable public keyring found: eof
Key generation failed: eof

Is it a permissions thing? I'm doing it as a regular unprivileged user.

>
>following the instructions I created the .rpmmacros file edited it as it
>outlined.
>
>then I did
>
>gpg --gen-key  filled in the blanks ... generated a key.
>
>now when I do (as the same user) rpm --sign --clean -ba somerpm.spec it
>asks for the passphrase... I enter the same one I did during the key-gen
>phase.. and I get Pass phrase check failed Anyone have a clue as to
>what I did wrong?
>
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Re: [expert] booting a kernel compiled with "athlon" results inkernel panick :/

2003-07-20 Thread David E Fox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] booting a kernel compiled with 
"athlon" results inkernel panick :/
>Oh well... I did "make clean". I didn't think that I need to do "make
>mrproper" or distclean just to compile for other target. is this really
>required?!?

I'd think it would be a good idea. Also you should try building the kernel 
with 'make zdisk' so it goes into a floppy. Not a good thing if the new 
kernel hoses your existing boot partition.
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Re: [expert] Compile problem

2003-07-20 Thread David E Fox
> I'm trying to follow instructions to install a new ov511 driver, as 
> there is a problem with the one included in 9.1.  I'm extremely green 
> at this.  I'm getting errors referencing include files, and I know I 

Kernel headers should be in kernel-source (or kernel-headers) rpms. 
I think they used to be in kernel-headers, but lemme check well the
kernel headers are here (/usr/src/linux/include/linux, linked to 
/usr/include/linux). Funny thing, rpm -q --whatprovides on these files 
say no package provides them.

Theoretically, if there is a missing file, one should be able to 
find out how to get it. (Side issue: trying to compile gtkatlantic, and
I had this working before, but /usr/bin/gtk-config is missing, and 
I urpmi gtk and get a mess.)

/usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm should be set up to point to the
kernel include files in /usr/src/linux/include/linux and
/usr/src/linux/include/asm, respectively.

Alternatively try to find a source rom. It's probably going to be easier as
it lists the precise dependencies that would be needed to compile it.
Especially, given my current situation that's probably what I'll do :).

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Re: [expert] DVD stuff

2003-07-19 Thread David E Fox
Somebody scribbled about [expert] DVD stuff
>OK, so I've got a DVD player in my server and in one of my client
>systems.  I've never used them for more than reading CD roms though.
>Today I got a wild hare and decided to try one.  I tried to use xine + a

I had xine working yesterday :(

Have had some bad experiences with having to reinstall and crashes. I'm 
limping along, trying to update, but it seems mplayer is  a fine product, 
and you might have good luck to it. BTW I've had a DVD / cd rw for a 
couple of days now :).

I just now tried to urpmi xine and got a wierd conflict in that the miror 
I was using (time4t.net -- plf) wanted a certain version for a xine 
library and the xine library it had was a later version (9.0 plf, that 
is). 

To me, installing xine is a little confusing, but I've made it work 
before. There are a number of supporting libraries you need, but if you 
just do 'urpmi xine' it's unclear which.


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Re: [expert] KDE K3b cdrw

2003-07-15 Thread David E Fox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] KDE K3b cdrw

>So thought I'd try the MP3 to audio procedure. Opened a new audio
>project and drag 'n drop 19 MP3's and started the burn. I did uncheck

That's pretty much a summary of what I want to do. From looking at
the k3b prog it seems quite doable. I have a number of radio MP3s and
others (otr mostly) and want to just burn them to audio cds. Now I just
got a burner (Toshiba SD-1312) and there's a separate thread on selecting
CD-RWs etc in expert going on. But, my standard 9.2 cooker refuses to 
boot, so I'm limping along with 9.0 installed to a spare partition right 
now... not sure if this will even make it to the list.
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Re: [expert] Is Mail Server Down or have I been unsubscibed??

2003-07-14 Thread David E Fox
> It was Bastille Day today in France, so it could have been a crash that no one 
> was around to notice (unlikely since Linux doesn't crash :-p) or the list was 

If you see any short penguins with epaulets and hands inside their
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Re: [expert] wierd probs with tape drive

2003-07-07 Thread David E Fox
> I usually so far haven't had issues with the tape drive, which
> is an HP Surestore DAT - SCSI using an Adaptec 2910C 
> controller. 

Bad form I know but it's starting to read the files. Dunno waht
happened. I reset the machine, tried 2.4.16 older kernel, couldn't 
even get into the drive, said no /dev/st0. Modules looked like
they were there, but possibly unused.

With 2.4.21.0.1mdk, it lets me start tarring from the drive but 
it seems pretty slow - these are .mp3 files though. I was getting
read errors from the drive yesterday...


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[expert] wierd probs with tape drive

2003-07-07 Thread David E Fox
Hey, I am trying to recover files off of a tape - I did a 
backup last night, and the machine hung at the end of the
backup. So I rebooted, and now (with another tape) am trying
to bring in some files I had saved previously - these had
reading troubles before.

I usually so far haven't had issues with the tape drive, which
is an HP Surestore DAT - SCSI using an Adaptec 2910C 
controller. 

Now tar is coming back with /dev/st0: cannot allocate memory.

I'm using Cooker, with:

Linux m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com 2.4.21-0.1mdk #1 Wed May 7 04:38:19 CEST 2003 i686 
unknown unknown GNU/Linux

Kernel issue?

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[expert] No Sound (again)

2003-06-20 Thread David E Fox
Tired of the endless "no sound" messages


I got it fixed once in 9.x when I used a cooker kernel..

I've taken the plunge and gotten cooker latest mirrored. I did a
HD install just a few minutes ago. My kernel is

Linux m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com 2.4.21-0.1mdk #1 Wed May 7 04:38:19 CEST 2003 i686
unknown unknown GNU/Linux

And there were a number of errors in the boot. There was a slight permissions
glitch in adding a user -- I had to chown to dfox because everything had 
user id 501, which was already dfox from the previous install.

But more to the point - it seems 9.x cooker (hot off the press) has
trouble initializing the card. Mine's a creative labs SB Live 5.1
version. I had it OK in the previous install, and after finding a
better/newer kernel I could eventually change the driver from audigy
o emu10k.

Maybe there is a kernel module issue --- here is what I get after
insmod'ing it manually:

emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_send_sysex_Rfddcbfb3
emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_set_instr_Rd85be938
emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_ioctl_Rb66d1f67
emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_reset_R56504ca2
emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol sound_unload_mididev_Ra6bb414c
emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_open_Rf6b3a2fb
emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_hw_control_Rb14b22cd


Snippets from /var/log/dmesg follow. Any suggestions? My grub boot
table has two different kernels - maybe I should reboot and try the
other one.

Jun 20 21:18:25 m206-157 modprobe: init_module: No such device
Jun 20 21:18:25 m206-157 modprobe: modprobe: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.1mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz failed
Jun 20 21:18:25 m206-157 modprobe: modprobe: insmod emu10k1 failed
Jun 20 21:18:25 m206-157 sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) failed


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Re: [expert] NO MAIL TODAY?

2003-06-19 Thread David E Fox
> 
> Anyone know the French for "stuff happens"?

Something like "cette list avoir besoin d'un lavemant' ?

(high school french -- 3 years, but that was 20+ years ago).

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Re: [expert] Running "updatedb" crashes my comp!

2003-06-13 Thread David E Fox
> action it might help in finding the common thread.  If it doesn't die...
> I'd go back to urpme urpmi 

sounds like a cool sig (and it even rhymes)

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Re: [expert] third test to list

2003-06-11 Thread David E Fox
> 
> Are my messages getting through to the list?? Anne, I sent this
> one directly to you as well to see if you get it. If you do, check the

Got it ... :)

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Re: [expert] Unknown processes...

2003-04-04 Thread David E. Fox
> The most likely culprit is Mailman and Python, and memory is the
> quickest and easiest fix. I'd run top in a terminal, then sit and watch

One thing is supposedly postfix is better at this than sendmail
is. There was one time I sent off a (non-spam!) mailing to 200+
addresses, basically at once through a shell for loop. The box's load
average climed to over 20, and there was a whole lot of disk
activity. Postfix supposedly doesn't need to spawn so many copies, or
each fork takes fewer resources than in sendmail. Anyway, I wouldn't 
probably do the same thing without inserting a 'sleep' in the middle
of the loop.


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Re: [expert] Advertisment about a digital pictures organizer

2003-04-04 Thread David E. Fox
> But I am starting to have too many pictures and I need to organize them. In=
> the windows environment is known the ACD-See package to do that, including=

Dunno what ACD-See does, as I've never used it. But you might try
using the new Konqueror in 9.1 - it's got some features that might 
be of use.


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Re: [expert]

2003-04-04 Thread David E. Fox
> Troy Arnold
> Network Specialist 

gag, not another blatant web spam. Kick it.


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Re: [expert] Advertisment about a digital pictures organizer

2003-04-04 Thread David E. Fox
> There is compupic for linux. I just use KDE's
> konqueror for pic renaming, and storing. There

Speaking of KDE and Konqueror, did anyone else notice some of the
new features in 3.1? There's a number of new tools available 
specifically for image gallery and related applications. FWIW.
I haven't yet tried it, but there's even a "find similar" option
for pictures -- how that is done eludes me.

And don't forget imagemagick/gimp for pic stuff either.

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Re: [expert] open source spreadsheet file format.

2003-04-02 Thread David E. Fox
> I can make do assumptions about the systems of the end user... nor about
> their knowledge level.

I can understand that. The end user will just get the data and import
it into their favorite spreadsheet or what have you. And it's a given
that html is not something that is going to come into a
spreadsheet. Yet what I don't understand is a need for it to do so -
why should there be an rtf for spreadsheets, as you put it?

The formatting (as I see it) should remain in the spreadsheet. The
data can be just brought in. 

Are your users spreadsheet neophytes in that you can't assume they
will be able to (for instance) set column widths, decimals, and other
cell attributes and that the spreadsheet should look a certain way?

> Franki

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Re: [expert] OT: spam filtering in Windows

2003-04-01 Thread David E. Fox
> I've had good experiences with SpamPal.  It's free.

Thanks for the tip. Not only that, it'll fit on a floppy, and the
installation doesn't look too difficult. I'll pass it on.

now if I can find a floppy that actually works :)


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Re: [expert] Enlarging Swap

2003-04-01 Thread David E. Fox
> Now that I have created (add) another swap partition to have memory enough
> to suspend to HD, my doubt is what should I have to put in lilo append?

I don't think that's an issue. How much total RAM do you have?

IMHO you can just add both swap partitions in /etc/fstab and have them
autoattach on boot. Is one of the partitions not going to be always
available or something like that?

One doesn't necessarily have to have one partition that is big 
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Re: [expert] open source spreadsheet file format.

2003-04-01 Thread David E. Fox
> I have to write a webapp with a downlaod option for the data..
> at present the format is in .csv (comma seperated values)

OK, most if not all spreadsheets can take CSV. (csv is nearly 
identical to Basic DATA statement format, without the DATA tokens, in
case anyone's wondering).

It seems you have two issues: one of presentation, and one of
transmission. It is true that CSV is limited, although the header can 
be transmitted as the first row of the data. 

For instance:

"SEQ","FNAME","LNAME","ACT"
"1000345","David","Fox","34"
"1000346","Paul","Jones","37"

etc.

Then the sheet or app at the other end can just import that, and the
user knows what the columns are for.

Now as far as presentation is concerned, you could have a perl script
or such that would sisplay the data the sheet is about to download
before it gets downloaded -- however the real data is still preserved
in CSV form.

I used to work in an environment where I was getting new sheet data
daily and incorporating it into spreadsheets and other things. I seem
to recall the presentation of data was done with Java. 

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Re: [expert] Enlarging Swap

2003-03-31 Thread David E. Fox
> original one.  So can I mount both (at different HD) and System will see
> them as just one?  That would be great!

Sure. Just resize the NTFS partition smaler and make a new partition
using the extra space, then tell Diskdrake to format and use as a
swap partition.


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Re: [expert] Enlarging Swap

2003-03-30 Thread David E. Fox

>   - Is there any other way of resizing ReizerFS and Swap partitions
> without using another HD?

AFAIK no with Reiserfs. I never tried it, but it's not really an issue
if you can save off the orig data in the partition somewhere and then 
remake the partitions, and restore. I've done that a number of times.

Swap partitions don't have to be resized. You can simply add a new
one.

(preferably on another disk, if possible)

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Re: [expert] OT: spam filtering in Windows

2003-03-30 Thread David E. Fox
> 
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
> use fetchmail to pop the mail from SBC, then deliver to a local postfix.
> Use postfix's tools to bounce via RBL if that floats your boat, or just

I would figure that's the easier way to go -- at least for me, since I
have already configured postfix/procmail/spamassassin for local
delivery here at home. It wouldn't be too much extra work to do that
at work - but I may get some pressure to stay within the Windows
framework.


> you're still reliant on SBC's "business" "services", you should be able
> to support everyone better than presently with any $300 white-box

I think we have a couple of PC-100 class machines - some are used for
internet searching at work - maybe one of them could do double duty as
a mail server. I'll try and recommend it.

> 
> Or you could buy the commercial windows version of SpamAssassin for all
> of your desktops (http://www.mcafee.com/myapps/msk/) At $29 per desktop

Thanks. I did not make the connection between spamkiller and spam
assassin.

I'm also looking at Cloadmark (c4.net) and other addins for outlook
or outlook express.

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Re: [expert] How do you get Realplayer plugin to work?

2003-03-26 Thread David E. Fox
> I select to listen to audio via the realplayer plugin, nothing happens=20
> because it freezes up.  How do you get the plugin working under KDE/Konquer=

I don't need to use artsdsp, but nevertheless it still wants a plugin
for realplay. I once was able to get this working - and it seems to
work on some sites like bbc.  

FWiW I was trying with konqueror as well. But with netscape the
realplayer comes up embedded in the mini-display only to let me
know another app may be using the audio device.

So it seems that there's an issue with the browser configuration. I'd
rather grab the audio right off the web page with wget and pipe it
in - why bother with plugins?

I vaguely recall an app called 'rpnhelper' that was supposed to 
facilitate this - it used to work with Netscape and when I switched to 
Mozilla I don't think I had to do anything special (maybe it 
absorbed the netscape things). I don't recall needing to do any
extra work to get the sound either -- regardless of whether artdsp or
whatever else was running. But lately (and with this) it seems to
be interfering.

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Re: [expert] upgrading

2003-03-25 Thread David E. Fox
> sucessful CD based upgrade from 8.0 to 9.1 the other day..  The really
> neat one was trying (just for fun) to go from RH 7.0 to MDK 9.0  it

I used to have RH 5.0 and a bunch of additions and finally decided to
upgrade to 7.2 around October 2001 when I got a bigger drive. In the
course of installation I had forgotten that the RH rpm database was still 
in /var/lib/rpm and as such lots of things were missing when I
finished the install. OOPS
:)

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Re: [expert] upgrading

2003-03-25 Thread David E. Fox
>There was a thread (not more than a week ago) in the cooker mailing
> list where they were experimenting with this.  Seems the result was an

I don't yet subscribe to cooker and haven't seen that thread, but it
is interesting to see how far 'out of spec' their boxes were before
they attempted the upgrade. Mine was 9.0 with some upgrades done along
the way, so it wasn't "virgin" 9.0, and I don't have nearly every-
thing installed either. Despite that, I got a boatload of new rpms,
and urpmi took a while to resolve everything.

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Re: [expert] upgrading

2003-03-25 Thread David E. Fox
> well, that sux. I'm sure that the upgrade from cds will break tons of
> things. That's the reason I switched to freebsd :)

Mine (via 9.0 urpmi) went fairly smoothy - despite that an upgrade
downloaded over 600 megs' worth of new RPMS :(. There was a little
glitch with apache (having both apache and apache2) but that doesn't
seem to affect anything here. I did lose functionality on the printer, 
which I thought strange, but a delete and then adding a new printer
fixed that problem. (The printer would accept jobs but they'd
mysteriously go to /dev/null.)

> I'm going to try 9.1 and if the problem with packages remains, bye bye

You might try debian as well. Gentoo is supposed ho have a ports
system. I don't have enough experience to determine whether ports is 
superior. 

In my (prior) experience with slackware, you basically upgraded 
packages yourself, picked what you wanted to upgrade too, grabbed the 
source code and recompiled. There wasn't any real upgrade path other
than reinstalling with a newer distro.



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Re: [expert] lm_sensors and i2c devices.... NOT THE ANSWER

2003-03-23 Thread David E. Fox
> You need to edit that section of /etc/sensors.conf. As it says:
> 
> # Asus won't release a datasheet so this is guesswork.

Possibly, but I haven't a clue as to how :(.

(and please don't say 'emacs /etc/sensors.conf' :(

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Re: [expert] floppies

2003-03-23 Thread David E. Fox
> Indeed. The industry seems to have decided that the floppy is a dead
> media -- that's fine, as they do suck, but I wish the industry would

Well they are convenient but offer so limited storage as to not be
all that useful anymore. And zip / ls-120 aren't as common and nowhere
near standard equipment. Media cost is also very expensive. CDRW seems
to be more ubiquitous, but then there are reliability problems and 
it's harder to send files to the CD (you can't just mount and copy
files).

These days, hard disks are so inexpensive (in many cases a small HD
is cheaper than zip disks) that one would think that HD would be
transportable. Dunno about how reliable a HD is that is carried around
from place to place, but if you can get one for $79 these days that's
20 gigs or more, maybe that's a direction to pursue. It would be 
easier if there were hotplug like connectors so you don't have to
open the machine up. I've seen them used though. 

> CD-R: Write once and it's gone.
> CD-RW: Write a few times, but each write needs to be done in a different

tape? it does have a tape mechanism and is fairly transportable, that
is, if the target machine has a compatible tape drive, which would not
be all that common on PCs. It's still very common in other arenas.

On some older machines, you could even boot from a tape.

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Re: [expert] lm_sensors and i2c devices.... NOT THE ANSWER

2003-03-23 Thread David E. Fox
> System temperature is nice and cool, relatively -- I ain't in a big
> hurry to stick my hand in there :-).

Mine 'seems' that it should be cool as well - I have a full tower case
with three case fans as well as (naturally) the fan on the heatsink
and a small motherboard fan. Yet, sensors on my setup must not be
altogether correctly installed, viz.:


as99127f-i2c-0-2d
Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at e800
Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter
VCore 1:   +1.84 V  (min =  +1.74 V, max =  +1.93 V)  
VCore 2:   +0.11 V  (min =  +1.74 V, max =  +1.93 V)   ALARM  
+3.3V: +3.53 V  (min =  +3.13 V, max =  +3.45 V)   ALARM  
+5V:   +5.02 V  (min =  +4.72 V, max =  +5.24 V)  
+12V: +12.39 V  (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.19 V)  
-12V: -12.08 V  (min = -13.19 V, max = -10.73 V)  
-5V:   -5.42 V  (min =  -5.24 V, max =  -4.74 V)   ALARM  
fan1: 5400 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) 
fan2: 4963 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) 
fan3: 2689 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)  ALARM  
temp1:   +26°C  (limit =  +60°C)  
temp2: +50.0°C  (limit = +120°C, hysteresis = +100°C)
temp3:+224.4°C  (limit = +120°C, hysteresis = +100°C)
vid:  +1.850 V
alarms:   
beep_enable:
  Sound alarm enabled

This with cooker (is that why temp3 is so high?) :) 9.1

I'm thinking that temp1 and temp2 are more or less right but that
temp3 is so way out of reality. I don't hear any audible alarms, yet
there are many lines from sensord in my syslog.

This is on a 1000mhz Athlon/ Asus A7V/133 motherboard, 266k of ram,
and with setiathome / genomeathome (folding-client) typically running
24/7. I've had the system two years now; it's rock solid IMHO.




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Re: [expert] New linux kernel for mdk9

2003-03-23 Thread David E. Fox
> ftp://ftp.dkuug.dk/pub/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS
> ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS
> rpmfind.net

Why not use urpmi? If your urmpi is synced with the latest cooker
there's a 2.4.21 rpm but not a 2.4.20 one.

kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk to be more precise.

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Re: [expert] Anyone using vcr on mdk9?

2003-03-21 Thread David E. Fox
> I was tempted by the lure of a digital video recorder.

I suppose by that you wish to digitize analog video (vcr) into video
files.

> I found this http://www.geocities.com/slothmud/VCR-HOWTO-3.html
> It seems great, my tv card is working fine with xawtv, so i checked vcr 

Hmm. I don't have a tv card and I've never used avifile but you might
have better success with mencoder (part of mplayer), see
http://mplayerhq.hu.

Examples seem to suggest it's possible to use mencoder to grab the
input from a TV (card) and encode the audio into AVI or other
supported formats. Couple that with a crontab setup and you've got 
a tivo :).

It also seems you have a very high level of control on the encoding
side, but it's also difficult to figure out how to do it :).

There are some examples here:
http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/documentation.html#tv_examples/

Whether mpleyer is more or less difficult to compile than avifile
given your current setup is left as an exercise (grin). And there
should be RPMs of both, try plf (plf.zarb.org).

One of these days I should get a tv card. It seems there would be 
interesting possibilities.

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Re: [expert] New linux kernel for mdk9

2003-03-21 Thread David E. Fox
> The kernel will run without the kernel source installed though won't it? 
> But I guess that would stop me compiling other apps on the upgraded machine?

Sure, having the sources installed isn't necessary unless you want to
compile your own kernel or want to peek :). But some packages may want
the kernel headers installed to compile. Luckily, the kernel headers
can be installed separately from the rest of the kernel source (kernel
headers go under /usr/include/linux by way of a symlink usually). 

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Re: [expert] Howto add Update Sources (Mandrake Update)?

2003-03-21 Thread David E. Fox
> I was installing Mandrake 9.0 on a really small (32 Meg) PC. Usually,
> the install asks what Mandrake cd's you have available, but each time I

Hmm. That's kind of hard :(. I thought Miark summed it up best - the
installer can't ask for other CD's if the installer has to be on the
CD and not on a RAM disk. I'm not certain on memory requirements for
the installer. 

As I commented (to Miarks post) on the list it makes for difficulties
if the "other" cd's (2 &3) aren't as easily accessible as is the first
one. Ideally, you'd want them all available at once. One can do an
urpmi.addmedia after the fact (as I do, since physically I only have a
#1 CD and don't have a burner) but it has to be done after the initial
install, as far as I know.

My previous installs have been HD installs - I just pointed the
install to a place on my HD where I had all the packages downloaded
to. For 9.0 it's a bit more complex because 1) the HD install broke my
box, and 2) I have ISOs for the two other CD's and not the RPMs
themselves. So I elected to loopback mount the other 2 CD images some-
place, and after urpmi.addmedia, I can then just add packages in as
desired. 

Are you installing 9.0 fresh for the first time on a (new) PC,
or do you have a Linuxb setup already working? 

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Re: [expert] Howto add Update Sources (Mandrake Update)?

2003-03-21 Thread David E. Fox
> The installation program runs from a RAMdisk when you have 64MB or more 
> of memory. If you have less, as you do, the installation program must run

So that's it. I'm not affected by lack of RAM, but it's good to see a
coherent explanation. 

On the same issue - how much RAM does the installation program really
need these days? As a fairly longterm user of Linux, I've seen and
done installs in as low as 4 megs of RAM up to my current system
configuration, which has 256 megs. As memory resources have increased
*quite a bit* in the last several years, it also seems that the
installers are getting fancier and requiring more RAM as well. 

One trick we used (back in the days of SLS and early Slackware) was to
define and manually attach a swap partition as soon as was possible
during the install process. That way, one could still install on 
a system that didn't quite have the recommended memory requirements.

This doesn't seem applicable these days - at least in that the current
installer has to wait until the partition definition screen (i.e., 
diskdrake) to set these partitions up for us. And, consequently, if
there's not enough RAM to get yuo this far, you're in trouble to say
the least. 

> I dunno about this, but I would try using urpmi.addmedia instead.

Yeah, that works, but you have to install things after the stuff is 
isntalled on CD#1. 

On the other hand, I don't have a burner and all I physically had when
I installed 9.0 was the first CD. It would have been nice to be able
to do on-the-fly urpmi.addmedia's to install stuff from the rest of
the system via other means (could be FTP or HD). And in my instance
the HD install method blew up early in the install because it could
not find a hdlist.cz file :(.

Right now I have CD's 2 and 3 ISO's loopmounted and use those for
sources for urpmi. Works nicely.

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Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]

2003-03-19 Thread David E. Fox
> Don't forget to pick the max mailbox size up for postfix if that's what
> you're using.  By default it's set at 50 Megs, which roughly translates

Good idea. I checked, and the settings are at about 50 megs so I
should be fine. Still, my incoming mailbox is pretty darned big so I
really should start getting rid of messages or stop reading out of the
spool (i.e., use kmail or evolution) but elm is still the fastest way 
to read mail and if I go back to kmail I have over a hundred megs
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Re: [expert] Pentium4 motherboards keeping ISA slots

2003-03-16 Thread David E. Fox
> I'm enrolled in a project for automating a telescope for robotic
> use. It's our aim to control the whole system under Linux.

A google search on 'linux and telescope automation' shows a link at
lowell university where someone is apparently doing just that.
> 

http://www.aas.org/publications/baas/v33n3/dps2001/504.htm


> PCI or ISA bus. However, most of linux device drivers which are availables
> are for ISA bus only.

Maybe that is true for the specialized stuff, but the PCI is pretty
mature nowadays, and it's been around a while.

> So we are forced to consider a PC Pentium4 with a motherboard which would
> contain ISA slots. I've looked for such kind of motherboards in my nearest
> local distributors without success.

As far as I know ISA slots are becoming less prevalent on motherboards
these days. Two years ago when I got this present moto, there were a
few that had one isa slot plus a few PCIs. Mine unfortunately doesn't
have any ISA. Too bod for my legacy cards (sniff).

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Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity

2003-03-16 Thread David E. Fox
> The drakautoinst method I'm imagining would avoid all the issues and (most
> of the) complications involved with using urpmi (or apt-get or similiar
> program) to "upgrade" an installation. In terms of package management the

I've been trying that method more or less with success for many
different dist upgrades. The idea is to pop in a new distro CD (I
first tried it with Red Hat, despite warnings), cd to the new RPMS 
directory, and then do 'rpm -Uvh *'. Grabs everything off of the CD
that you already have and upgrades it. That's the way it's intended to
work, but it doesn't always work that way.

There are two scenarios where I don't think urpmi would be smart
enough to work around:

* situatinos where new 'essential' packages / software are put on the
  distribution. If you've not installed it before, you'll miss it
  unless warned about it beforehand.

* situatiouns where one RPM is broken up into two or more separate
  RPMs - for instance gcc which has fractured into maybe 8 separate
  RPMs. It might be able to see that foo-common-2.xx.i586.rpm now
  needs foo-misc-2.xx.i586.rpm but the RPM yuo have is just
  foo-2.xx.i586.rpm.

Important system upgrades - like drakwheeze or whatever MDK comes up
with could be part of overall MCC (Mandrake Control Center)
dependencies that basically say 'if x upgrades this, he needs
drakwheeze as well'. Otherwise it won't get installed.


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Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]

2003-03-16 Thread David E. Fox
> Lets put it this way... since cooker hit beta I've averaged about 450
> mails a day on that list... topping out at 800 one day... do I read them
> allno way in H### But I do read a lot of subjects.

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Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]

2003-03-16 Thread David E. Fox
>   The line to get plfs gpg sig is. (where # is the command prompt)
> 
> # lynx -source http://plf.zarb.org/plf.asc | gpg --import

OK thanks. been there done that :)

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Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]

2003-03-16 Thread David E. Fox

> the meeting is often the time at IHOP.  If you go next month maybe I'll
> run into you.  I'll be in the back on a laptop running 9.1 

Hmm. I don't attend the meetings due to work - it's difficult to get
over to Cisco from South San Jose and I take a bus :(.
  
I had no reason to suspect you were local :). 

> In the cooker They have mentioned casually that they are looking for
> features people want/need in urpmi the next generation.. might be the
> time to start requesting.

Maybe it's time to finally join the cooker mailing list ;) as if I
needed more reading :) - it takes a lot of time just to keep up with
just expert and newbie. 42 megs in /var/spool/mail/dfox :).

> Dunno on apt-get either.  But they have talked about the ability to add
> fallback media to urpmi and I agree it would be helpful. I know I tend

Other posters (don't remember who exactly) suggested that one could
add secondary sites to urmpi but I don't see how to do that, other
than just saying 'urpmi.update alterative-cooker-mirror-name'  - and
that only controls the update nott the actual urpmi.

> to remove the cd's as media then add an online site that has the release
> rpms.  When I'm on the move I don't always have disks handy.

Right - what I did for 9.0 is I got a CD#1 but since I don't have a CD 
burner, I couldn't burn ISOs of disks 2 or 3, so I just downloaded the
ISOs and loopback mounted them.

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Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]

2003-03-15 Thread David E. Fox
>   I never do --force --nodeps on an urpmi unless I absolutely know
>   what's going on. --noclean will save you from having to re-download

I would not normally either, but the apache issue seemed to require
that.

Anyhow the upgrade went smoothly -- took maybe 5 hours to download and
install everything. That to me seems a bit excessive but my box was
for the most part way out of date with respect to cooker - as a 679+
meg d/l would seem to indicate :(. Surprisingly enough, it went
OK, better than I anticipated. So far though I haven't noticed
anything strange.

>   Grab the gpg sig from plf's site and add it to root's gpg ring.

You might want to elaborate on that one -- I've never used pgp or 
gpg, and haven't needed to for the checksigs portion of rpm for the
other (i.e., Mandrake) sites. I've installed a few things from plf
before as well.

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Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]

2003-03-15 Thread David E. Fox
>  Outside of that...never had a complaint, as long as you keep a
>  generous amount of space in your /var (10gig partition in my desktop

Yeah, I needed 670 emgs :).

I'm still doing the auto-select. I'm glad I put in 'contrib' - I also
had a slow mirror in .ca for plf, so I deleted and replaced with a
new entry.

I also had to apply --force --nodeps --noclean tk the urpmi command
line. Otherwise, I'd probably have to do the whole download again,
which took a little over 2 hrs on a 1.5 mpbs ADSL connection - it's
about a CD's worth of data, if not a little more.

Even on a 1ghz athlon, it takes a while to slog thru all those
rpms to find out what to do. There were a few xine packages on
plf with bad sigs, so I elected to install them anyway - besides I
use mplayer :).

There's a lot of conflicts so far with respect to apache related
packages and mysql / postgres. In point of fact there apparently 
exists two different flavors of apache (apache and apache2. Shouldn't
one be gotten rid of?  I don't really use apache much. They're mostly
icon files in /var/www/icons so I doubt they've changed much, but the
'wrapper' (i.e., the rpm) has, and of course it conflicts.

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