Re: [expert] Clean up old logs
My firewall has been up and running for the last 2 years now. While trying = to cleanup the partitions I noticed a wholalotta log files from various stu= Please don't post HTML. Adrian, isn't logrotate working? Or do you want to clean the stuff up now? At any rate, find would do the job: # find . -type f /var/log -mtime 30 | xargs rm That gets rid of files modified over 30 days ago. Adrian David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] spamassassin?
Is /usr/bin/spamd even still there? And /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf? Yes to both. My thoughts on this are that it's high time that you copied off all of your tweaked config files (after going over each one with a fine-toothed You're right -- I'm procrastinating on this one. I'm just reticent to do it because it means going out and getting a bunch more RPMs of things I already have again. ` Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Help - my box has been compromised!
Folks - especially postfix people - I need some help - my box seems to have been turned into an open relay. I am running the same postfix configuration file I had installed when I was running 9.0 and later versions (currently I am running 9.2/cooker).. I have not been able to post to the list or send out any smtp email until I fix this and in the meantime have simply flushed (deleted) the outgoing queue in /var/spool /postfix via # find . /var/spool/postfix -type -f | xargs exec rm which (quickly) removes it. I removed many megabytes' worth of stuck email this way earlier today only to find that at 9 pm there was 4 megs more waiting and my isp admin had sent me a mail saying he disabled my smtp. I was under the impression postfix was relay proof - any advice will be helpful... Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] help - my box might be a relay
hey - help!
it's seemingly apparent that in the last week or two there seems to
be an increasing number of mails of a dubious nature being sent to
a large number of bogus addresses by yours truly :(.
I'm not a spammer but it seems that my mailing system (postfix) is
misconfigured -- but I was under the impression that postfix was
relay-proof. I have seen evidence though of some chinese sites
masquerading as m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com, probably forging headers
somewhere along the line. It further seems that mail is injected here
and then attempts are made to send the sh*t off to other places.
I have not gotten any complaints but as of now 22:30pm pst 11/4 there is
approximately 2.3 megabytes' worth of mail trying to get out.
1) I want to simply remove these messages. How do I do this? I have not yet
come across a queue removal program - like lprm - for mail. Can (or should)
I just delete all the files underneath /var/spool/postfix/{defer,etc,deferred,
etc} - i.e, keep the directory structure intact but do somehting like
find /var/spool/postfix -type f | xargs grep rm
Is that dangerous?
Secondly, using a fairly stock configuration for postfix, is there some-
thing I've missed? I can attach my configuration if needed. I have
basically kept the same one intact since I initially reinstalled 9.0
and upgraded to various levels of cooker over the past few months.
HELP ;)
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[expert] wma file conversion?
Hello list, Anyone done this before? I was on vacation and managed to have my system automatically capture a radio show and save it off in mplayer's stream dump format, which it identifies as wma. I'm attempting to explode it into a wav suitable for burning, but I can't get the mencoder command to do anything but segfault. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Video processing box
a 900 MHz processor (though 512MB RAM). I had thought of adding a firewire card to the new box when I buy the new camcorder. Mine's an Athlon 1000 with 256k ram, probably not enough hardware for video editing. I have tried cinelerra off and on with avi and mpeg files I already have (no camcorder). I had planned for 512MB RAM - are you saying that's not really enough? Well, dunno. 256 megs doesnt' seem to be enough. I think 512megs would be enough, but you may be better off with SCSI drives. scsi is quite expensive though. Anne David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
Now a basic question that maybe I'm doing something wrong. When you open a song, there is a blinking cursor across the graph. I would expect this to It does over here. Maybe the zoom isn't set right -- because if the song is long enough, you won't see the progress bar move very much. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 /home in 9.2
add programs and data, will this affect my use of the home directory when I go back to 9.1? Is there a way to access files in one program from the Any changes you make in /home are not part of Mandrake so it wouldn't make much difference if you were to go back to 9.1 from 9.2. That said, there are dot files in your home diredctory which may need upgrading or downgrading, as a result of executing programs in 9.2 and thenn re- executing them in 9.1. One other thing I noticed when I did the upgrade is that the groups got changed around - different gid numbers from /etc/passwd. That can make it a bit difficult if you need to access files in /home. But a quick chown will address that issue - so long as you make sure to get the dot- files and dot-directories to change ownerships along with the rest of the files. Gary David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
Something must be wrong then. It is a 4 minute song and it doesn't matter what the zoom is and nothing I do causes it to progress like it should. Weird. It would seem so. Are you importing the mp3 directly, rr is it in a wav? I'm not at my system now to check these things out -- right now I'm accessing my system via remote ssh from my parent's house and will be on my way to Portland, OR tomorrow. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
Yep! You are genius! Thanks so much. Now let me ask why I need to do this... Is this because of a bug or the way the application was designed, or is it like a gnome product that I'm trying to use in KDE? I don't think it has anything to do with gnome. Audacity I believe uses some of the gtk+ libraries - it does seem to have that look and feel. But 99% of the time I can get by without needing artswrapper - the other times I can work around it. Only once in a while would something like xmms refuse to play a location because of an arts dependency - and those few times I can reort to mpg123 or some other player. Unfortunately, kaboodle noatun have trouble (cooker with latest KDE) for sometime. But there are alternatives, not necessarily so with audacity. Thanks to EVERYONE for all the help. I do believe I finally have an editor to cut the screech out of my songs. :) Im not a happy camper and I didn't even No, leave it in, it sounds better that way :). But audacity does include quite a bit of tools for audio file editing. I've only managed to scratch the surface. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] root-tail
It is something to do with root-tail, but I can't figure out what it is... :-( Isn't root-tail some feature of reiserfs? Or am I missing sometning here? According to 'man top' it seems -b just sends lines of top through to stdout until a limit has been reached or until the process is killed. HaywireMac David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] asf files / mplayer saving
I'm on a trip in a day or so and am looking for a way to automate recording (via mplayer) of some radio shows while I am gone. The recording I think I can figure out -- using a command like $ mplayer -streamdump foo -cache 128 but I get a file that's ASF. It also (on the site I'm using) gives a monaural signal. When I play the stream back, I can visually see it as stereo in xine. Audacity brings it in but it seems to be corrupted, as all I get out of it is a wierd screech sound that lasts for about two seconds. Also that's what is in my .wav file when I try and export it to wav format using audacity. So there must be some sort of conversion I'm missing. My other option is to do some of this manually through an sshd connection but I don't believe I will have internet access during my trip. Any suggestions? I also need to stop the stream at a predetermined time. I saw a writeup about this, issue #94 of Linux Gazette, although it's emphasizing ecasound and encoding local FM through a radio card. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
my xmms, and every other audio tool I've ever used have never had this problem here. So that is why I was kind of lost. I've never had to use wrappers etc. Kind of caught me off guard. I had remembered reading about wine or something xmms here, pretty much same thing. noatun won't connect, neither will kaboodle (current cooker). noatun complains about a missing arts, and kaboodle sits there doing nothing. But if another tool will do the job, I'll just go use that tool. Just had a wierd experience. Audacity loads just fine. It loads the file just fine, but then when you hit play nothing. ?? No progression of the bar, no I just posted about an issue with it but then I was trying to import an mplayer dump stream directly. That doesn't seem to work. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files
Oh, sorry. That's weird. I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I looked at. What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker I concur - audacity is good for mp3/wav editing - provided you have enough spare disk space. If you don't, don't try to save the project as a project file in your home directory. I use /tmp for most everything for that, since I don't have a lot of room left in /home and /tmp has several gigs available (editing roughly an hour's length of wav file will need close to 2.1 gigs of space). But what's 'hackaudacity'? David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sending mail throughout several smtp servers?
messages throughout the University server (correo.um.es) and viceversa, I can't send messages from a computer located in the Uniersity throughout the mail-server at home (smtp.ono.com). Well, here' s a thought.. is your home box set up for ssh? Could you use putty (highly recommended for windows) and just log onto your system remotely from the uni and send mail using elm? Francisco Alcaraz David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
fdutils, includes among other utilities, superformat. But it's only for formatting DOS file system floppy's. Won't work for an What would be the difference between a 10 sector per track DOS file system floppy and an ext2 fs floppy? I don't mean from a file system standpoint, I know the differences, but from a hardware standpoint, what is it about ext2 that makes it harder to use higher-capacity format disks? Or does superformat simply make a DOS image? You still could make a bigger disk with 'fdformat' and go that route, right? It's been some time since I really used floppies much, so I'm just not understanding this point. I trink 1.6 meg would work but the media could not be all that reliable. I do recall the problems when I first started using Linux - I used to tell people that they had better use known good and reliable disks for the boot/root combos as those were native linux and back then if you had floppies with bad sectors, you were essentially out of luck. Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
I have done this with a winblows program and still have some disks like this, up to 1.72mb which was very handy at times. I don't know how to achieve this Use a special device for that format you want. I'd suggest first trying # fdformat /dev/fd0h1660 see what happens. Back in the old days and I think that's still true, you'd use the special form of /dev/fd0 (for instance /dev/fd0h1440) when formatting only. As I recall, uppercase H was for 5.25 and lowercase 'h' for 3.5. I don't know offhand what the 'u' is. Maybe 'unformatted' but that doesn't make sense. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff
hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins. Well, it was gremlins in the other system -- actually the power cable to the drives was a bit flaky, so anything that would access the drive (ex. df, ls, etc.) would hang, with a corresponding linear increase in the overall load average. This time, it's different -- and it seems to have gone away in the last urpmi --auto-select. lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up at 4 or 5? msec is standard; I don't raise it higher. root would hang as well as a user. No difference there. Reboot urpmi seems to have fixed this problem -- now there's no kicker panel on my kde. D*thing came up in twm :( Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] spoofed?
Get a router/NAT/firewall that enables spoof protection. Well, yep. I was hoping for something I could do in software to detect and or stop this gremlin. HaywireMac David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation
Define successful? Doing it without running out of disk space would be successful. Of course, if it actually boots the right partition it would be even better. I've been able to do this in 9.0. LX and I hashed over this; it seems that the kernels are SoBig :) now that there's not enough room on the floopy for syslinux/grub (or lilo)/initrd and the kernel. Boots the system with some problems identifying the CD ROM as an SCSI device with dialogue to change devices, asks does one want to run the configuration Have you done this with 9.2? I may not create a boot floppy the right way? This is also on a standard kernel. 2.4.21-0.13mdk Hmm. How big was that? 1337954 Aug 25 08:47 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1mdk Format floppy to DOS filesystem Place into the floppy drive but do not mount Back in the old days: format floppy cp /boot/zImage /dev/fd0 rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdX That's from memory, and I may have the parameters reversed. It was always a trick remembering the order for rdev. The intent is to simply ocpy the kernel onto a good floppy and then rdev it -- this sets the root device, which you'd fill in with wherever your root happened to be. If we go back to that mode, at least the kernel will fit on the floppy by itself. If not, it's time to figure out why the kernels in 9.x are SoBig ;). In particular, lots of stuff is modularized so they're not in the monolithic kernel image. Otherwise, hack drakboot to make disks with more sectors per track than the default DOS format. After all, we aren't running DOS, so why stick with 1.44mb floppies if you can tweak the format for 1.6 meg? Charlie David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] urpmi lccked
This just in 9.2 rc1 cooker... the software manager seems to be broken, and I can't add any sources - was trying to revamp the sources to include the new CDs as opposed to the old ones. Software Manager quietly dies after I tell it where to go for the CD. Also I tried to add in cooker main and contrib and can't get anywyere... so I just removed /etc/urpmi and /var/lib/rurpmi etc. Now the whole urpmi subsystem is hosed. I just want to rebuild it from scratch, include main/contrib/plf as well as the local cd sources list but can't do any- thing now as it just says the thing is locked help David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi lccked
Look for a lock file (.lck ?) probably in the same directory as the urpmi sources or under /var. Then delete it. Nothing there. Well, I fixed at least partially the problem by remaking urpmi directories underneath /var/lib and /var/cache just to be on the safe side. Adding distribution media was not too difficult but I'm not sure I did it properly -- for instance, installing Open Office from the 9.1rc1 distribution media gave 'I can't find it messages because many of the base packages for that are on CD #2. It should have asked to change disks, rather than have me redo the urpmi with cd#2 inserted. I'm off to rebuild the rest of the urpmi database, thanks to plf.zarb.org. Gotta love that site... Richard Urwin David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi lccked
As I said, the problem with the gui does not (for me) preclude using the command line urpmi.addmedia. It might help to replace the files you No, it shouldn't. I figured that it might be easier to add the distribution media (actually replace them, based on new content) with the media manager. I found that adding in the distribution media via urpmi.addmedia will work, but it's failing on asking for a disk change, see my other post to the list on this. rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* ? Not relevant to my situation. It was missing directories. It sometimes helps to do an strace if one comes across some sort of an error message - it's usually going to offer a clue as to what files it's trying to access at that point. In my situation, the urpmi database locked comes from not being able to access the directory /var/lib/urpmi. I created it manually, and it works. But urpmi should have been able to detect the missing files/directories and rebuild from scratch. It would have had to do this following a new install. Did you urpmi.removemedia -a ? Yes, but not the way I should have -- I ended up just removing the /etc/urpmi files :(. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] locked -- ps related stuff
What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power to my HD drives. And that was with an older system. Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at present it is over 20. Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of course, they are. Oh well, reboot time again. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi problem
Have you tried just --auto --auto-select (using the /etc/urpmi/skiplist to block anything you don't want.) This way it finds what it needs on it's own. I'm experiencing the same problem. It started perhaps on Tuesday - and since then there hasn't been any updates supposedly in main or contrib - which I find extremely odd, since changelog is listing many listings. My take on this is that the mirror or source repository is out of sync with what you've downloaded, and somehow your system thinks the data is current when it isn't. Usually this goes away as things get synced up, but there are a number of potential problems because it's left KDE (particularly) in an unstable state because it cannot find many of the kde RPMs -- the versions are out of synch. Incidentally, there doesn't seem to be anything in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms, although it *looks* like some number of files got downloaded, nothing seems to have been. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] urpmi problem
Changelog? Are you talking about Cooker/9.2, while Praedor is talking about 9.1 final? AFAICT, Texstar hasn't released any RPMs for Cooker. 9.2/cooker - here. I don't have texstar as a source. AIUI, both main and contrib are static repositories, whose contents do not True for 9.1 - updates is a different repository. As of 5:30am (god i'm up early) pdt 8/29, it's looking for a number of roms - like libkdebase4-3.1.3-38mdk -- but AFAICT the mirror is expecting a slightly different version of that RPM and as such cannot install. urpmi prints out a number of ftp URLs with these RPMs but does not download them and does not install them, and prints out a you may want to update your rpm database This happens from time to time, and it should sooner or later rectify itself. As of 5:30 all I was able to update was plf. FWIW I use ftp.surfnet.nl as my mirror. If it doesn't get fixed, tnen you reset urpmi sources and start over afresh. I've had to do that a number of times. Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mc hang
Right after boot and root login on tty1 it takes more than a minute for mc to start on 9.1. Didn't have that problem on 9.0. On screen after mc Expect a call from Ronald Mc Donald's attorney. mc hang indeed. sheesh. (gdr) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] im sick and tired of this!
Couldnt find any kind of forums there. an you supply a link? OK. Had to click through a few screens on the nbc11.com site. The actual fora are hosted by ibsys.com. Here's the url - all on one line of course. http://forums.ibsys.com/viewmessages.cfm?sitekey=bayForum=79Topic=8946 And my post is there as of now. :) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MP3 to Wave
I highly recommend lame as in lame --decode mostexcellent.mp3. Only problem is that it doesn't handle converting more than one at a time. There's always shell loops :). Or, try the diskwriter plugin for xmms. Select the plugin via ctrl-v, then select your files, and press play. It does all of them in one fell swoop (tm). Rob David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MP3 to Wave
If your burning it to CD try EcliptRoaster (eroaster) it should do what you want. Hmm. I have not yet tried that. Here's what I've tried, mpg123 | sox - well, OK, but harder to automate, but only really proven way to ensure that what you have at the end of a conversion is really a 44.1k AIFF WAV suitable for burning. That's important especially if you have (as I do) a number of MP3s in 22050 mono or what have you. Specif- ically, I'm doing a number of CBSRMT radio show mp3s to CDs, and these shows are ca. 45 minutes long, so if your WAV files aren't in the 450 meg or so range, something is amiss and you'll end up with a CD of high pitched voices, like playing a 3 3/4 ips tape at 7 1/2 ips :). k3b - OK at the conversion step, dismal at the burn step. Often the thing segfaults in the middle of the burn and I end up with a locked drive, only seemingly way to rectify this is to reboot. Net result, of course, is a coaster. cdbakeoven -- Seemingly OK in the burn step. Conversion step not OK, they haven't done it right. I end up with data files on the CD, and net result is a coaster with wonderful white noise. Otherwise, I get the wrong size WAV as described above. Very nice looking interface. I have 2.0beta source but haven't been able to compile it yet. xcdroast - didn't like it, don't use it. cdrecord - well great at burning the CD, what can I say :) gcombust - not too terribly useful for mp3s. The one time I tried it, even after ensuring I was making an audio cd and not a data cd, it wrote mp3s to the cd as mp3s, no conversion needed ;). Good so far for data cds, and maybe i'll try burning a cd's worth of mp3s with it if I get that sony portable that can play mp3 cd's as well as music cd's :). xmms-diskwriter: well this will do the job of mp3 to wav conversion when others fail - specifically VBR encoded files. I had mpg123, mplayer and lame --decode all fail with segmentation faults/core dump when I was trying to do this last night. Very easy to use, just select the diskwriter plugin, path etc., then select the files you want, and it puts WAVs in the directory, then run cdrecord. Downside - doesn't know that it needs to resample 22050 mono to 44100 stereo - I just tried that with a file this morning. mplayer - well dumpstream is an option but it doesn't do any conversion, just seems to end up with a stream dump file in the same format as the original. It also segfaulted when presented with a VBR mp3. I got a number of spare cdrs so maybe I'll try eroaster :). Magnus writes; I know this is a little bit of topic but can anyone recommend a good=20 program that converts MP3 to Wave with really nice quality ? Well I am not sure what is meant by 'really nice quality' since the wav can only be as good as the original mp3. For most serious conversion, I use a mpg123 pipeline to sox, and ensure that all the rates, channels are set up for the input as well as output formats. OK for one at a time deals but a bit harder to automate because the filenames are usually long with lots of saces like 'foo fighers 1 of 14 something song.mp3 :) Kiran [EMAIL PROTECTED] David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3
Hey, a Kiss fan?! Me too! My cousin and I saw the final (reunited with Peter) tour in Louisville a couple of years ago. Awesome stuff! Kinda sorta. I had friends who were into it, I haven't listened to them since vinyl days, but it brings back memories. I have a couple of kiss cd's - one unplugged that is rather nice, and 'kiss my ass' featuring covers of different people (garth brooks etc.) doing the songs. That one is pretty good, and there are some interesting variants, including a 6/8 time rendition of rock and roll all nite that actually sounds better than the original version (in 4/4 time). led zep is like that too - encomium features a number of new rock artists playing classic LZ. It features probably the wierdest rendition of custard pie I've ever heard :). Plus last weekend I ripped dread zezpelin - now that's really weird. kinda reggae / dance music versions :). Umm, its 70 mins for audio, right? I use Gcombusts screen to tell how many WAV Yeah, 74 but kiss alive ii fit just fine on a 74 min. Bet the cd version is marketed as a 2 disk version though. What a ripoff :(. One can supposedly calculate the required size from the wav file size, of course, so awk (probably) to the rescue ;). A little aside - if file would just say this is a 44.1khz file that is so many mins and seconds' or another quickie tool, that would be a good thing. Otherwise I could hover the mouse on an mp3 in konqueror and get the timings. But that's not always the case. I guess I'll have to give gcombust another try. My experience hasn't been all that successful for the type of stuff (namely, other than 44.1khz stereo mp3s) I've been putting on CDs. /\ DarkLord David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] eroaster
just installed eroaster and can't get it to work. I'm on cooker 9.2 at the moment. seems there are some issues with python: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dfox]$ Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-1.2/gtk.py, line 127, in __call__ ret = apply(self.func, a) File /usr/lib/eroaster/main.py, line 682, in BurnWriterOptions self.BurnCDNow() File /usr/lib/eroaster/main.py, line 820, in BurnCDNow cdrecord = cdrtools.cdrecord(channel, id, lun, self.devWriter.get_text(), self.cat.get_loglevel()) File /usr/lib/eroaster/cdrtools.py, line 106, in __init__ self.__cdrecord_read_version() File /usr/lib/eroaster/cdrtools.py, line 204, in __cdrecord_read_version self.__cdrecord_version_major = atoi(version[0]) File /usr/lib/python2.3/string.py, line 220, in atoi return _int(s, base) ValueError: invalid literal for int(): line oh well. It gets to the conversion step, deposits some wavs in /tmp, and then normalizes. Maybe it's pilot error. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Pan articles expiry
Is there not a way to tell Pan to delete all articles older than x days? I can't find it. I can't find it either. Sorting by date and then flagging the articles for delete might work. But it takes a long time... actually I'm wanting to do this as well as I had difficulties with Pan eating up all available memory and swap when requested to get new headers for about a dozen or so subscribed groups. It seems my news server keeps articles for quite sometime, and Pan wants to keep headers around for all of them too, and the result is over 3/4 of a million (!) articles in these groups. I solved that last problem by nuking the .pan directory and starting over. Anne David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] k3b CD writer
Known issue with k3b. You must disable supermount. Hmm. That might explain some of the issues I have had with it; mostly what seems to be permission related, although permissions seem to be right, and dfox is a member of the cdwriter group. Occasionally it just craps out saying that it's only able to burn an image. (But at least if that crashes, you're not out a CD, and can redo the image and burn later with cdrecord.) :) k3b is not very good as far as I'm concerned. gcombust does everything I want and more. I have not as of yet been able to correctly put a number of mp3s on an audio cd. It still thinks I want to make a data cd containing the audio mp3s. k3b (at least so far) seems to correctly recognize the sampling rate and converts properly to a wave format file. Others have proven not very successful at this. k3b is OK if I make images - at least some of the time. I can (and usually do) manually convert via a pipeline between mpg123 and sox for this. That's not too difficult, but batching up a bunch and converting en masse is more difficult to automate. Not only that, the GUIs are easier to use when it comes to putting a number of (converted) mp3s on a cd and being able to estimate how much space, and how long, the disk will be. For instance, I'm in usenet now and there's another ween cd ready for me to download and convert and make a new cd from :). My approach for this will likely be the same for the other ones: do the mpg123 to wav conversion one at a time, to files in /tmp named '01.wav 02.wav 03.wav' and then cdrecording all these files at once. Or maybe yet - maybe I will scrap this as playing the first mp3 results in an error big values too large and an error Illegal Audio-Mpeg header in input. The post says they're vbr's encoded with mmjb. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] decoding a VBR mp3
Hello - In a prior post (subject K3b cdwriter) I explained the method I use for decoding mp3s to wav files so I can make a CD from them. I mentioned that I was planning on scrapping this because mpg123 fails to play the file(s) in question. So (presumably) decoding via mpg123 is not an option here. What I subsequently found -- mplayer to the rescue. At least mplayer will play them when mpg123 refuses to do so. I also tried lame to decode one of these files, and the result is a segmentation fault preceded by a number of unsupported messages relating to bitstream resyncing and frequency changes. The process (in comparison with mpg123 piping to sox) is *significantly* slower. I'm thinking along the lines if mplayer can play it, it should be able to decode it. mplayer -streamdump file dumps core. :( And the (incomplete) dumped stream is in mp3 format. Somehow I don't think it's going to work. I imagine folks here have tried this before. Any help? David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3
David - I missed that thread (well, actually I just didn't follow it - I use Gcombust without problem here). Anyways, have you tried the diskwriter plugin I'm going to give gcombust another try. Specifically, did you see my comment about it making data copies of the mp3s rather than doing the decoding? I'm pretty sure I selected audio cd and not data cd. with XMMS to see if the resulting WAV file is acceptable for you to use? I installed it, and configured it, but I'm not sure that it's convenient from an automation standpoint. I'll try and see if I can just select all the files and run them through en masse with xmms-diskwriter. Seems like it might actually work. I added the files and selected the diskwriter and it's a disk writin' :) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] decoding a VBR mp3
If you mean pick .MP3 and wind up with an audio track on your disk in one fell swoop...well, I've never tried that. I always converted a bunch of MP3s with That's precisely what I'm trying to do. BTW, the xmms-diskwriter thingy worked fine - I just su over, run cdrecord and give him all the wav files. I'm the proud owner of a new Ween CD :). Now I'm getting kiss alive II :) guess I'll be up all night :). Originally this was a double lp. Maybe it'll all fit on one CD. the diskwriter plugin in XMMS, then ran normalize on them to equal everything out, then used Gcombust to burn them as audio tracks to disk. (BTW, this I don't think I can find fault with that method. What I am looking for is an easier way to automate much of the background processing, and when burning a set of mp3s in wav for cd, making sure I can fit the # of mp3 files to the CD, and not run out of room. It's simpler of course to do that in a GUI. I like cdbakeoven's interface btw. It'll keep track of the time your tracks use as well as give you an indication of how much space you've wasted. For much of what I've been recording, straight mp3 to wav conversion proves effective since I'm just burning single radio shows (OTR) to the cd. But I have a couple where I think I could get 2 or maybe three on 1 cd and being sure I don't run out of room helps. I don't want to try overburn jsut yet :). These aren't typical 44.1k stereo things; that's where the sampling rate needs to match in the decoding process. Yes, I can pick individual viles, groups, or whole directories with it. Very handy, just change the audio i/o to diskwriter, make your selection, hit play Ok... yes, as I tried that, it works just fine. I'll have to remember to do that - especially when confronted with vbr's in the future. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] cdbakeoven first try bad
I'm using what seems to be an old version of cdbakeoven after someone (who shall remain nameless) suggested I try cdbakeoven after letting him know of my issues with k3b crashing in the midst of a burn. (On that, I can simulate the writing and just use k3b for the conversion and do the actual writing with cdrecord). But cdbakeoven was worth a try so I grabbed it off of a cooker contrib mirror - at least I think it was one; the rpm hasn't been updated since last August. cdbakeoven-1.8.9-5mdk is the rpm I installed yesterday. It seems easy enough to operate, yet there must be something wrong in the setup - especially the programs it uses to do the conversion(s) from mp3 to wave format suitable for audio CDs. I got a burn all right, but I got a burn of only 1/4th or so of what I expected, and when I popped the CD into my CD player, I got white noise. Another coaster, I guess. Has anyone else noticed this? Are there settings I should pay attention to? David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] cdbakeoven first try bad
Why are you not sticking with Gcombust? Is there something it can't accomplish that you need done? Well, I'll have to think about it. gcombust will do the job, and I've had luck with it. At the same time though, I like the interfaces in cdbakeoven and k3b better. They also (supposedly) are able to just drag and drop the mp3 onto the thing and go off and convert burn all by themselves -- with, supposedly, the extra software to do this. At least k3b is up front about what software is needed and lets you know what it finds. cdbakeoven is a little lacking in this. At least that's my impression. Plu k3b has video cd support but I haven't tried this - it's on the 'to-do' list now that I can rip dvd's supposedly - but that's the subject of another set of posts :). I'm giving gcombust another try - drag and drop an mp3 into it and see what it does. I'll use a CDRW so I don't coaster :). : LX David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] PDF haywire
OK Well I have received a pdf file from overseas I want to print out. It's only 4 pages, and it's about 190K. Neither konqueror or kghostview will read it, but xpdf or acroread will. Printing is not possible as it launches a perl from kprinter that quickly gobbles up all RAM and swap (and I have 256 emgs RAM and 800 megs roughly of swap). pdfinfo says: Title:CRI article 7 p34-37 OK Author: G4 User Creator: QuarkXPressª: LaserWriter 8 Z1-8.7.1 Producer: Acrobat Distiller 5.0.5 for Macintosh CreationDate: Mon Jul 28 13:29:44 2003 ModDate: Mon Jul 28 13:29:44 2003 Tagged: no Pages:4 Encrypted:no Page size:666 x 907 pts File size:190038 bytes Optimized:yes PDF version: 1.4 Is that of any concern? It doesn't just seem to be this file alone, but other pdf files I have also can't be opened with the KDE tools. I am running cooker ATM and will check on this after I do another upgrade. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Playing .ra files
The rpm puts the plugin in /usr/lib/xine-plugin/xine-plugin.so. Just copy this file to the mozilla plugin directory and you will have John, that might just be a fantastic tip, but I can't seem to make it work. I have a link which the rpm provided, in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Clicking on a radio station now that offers Real Media playback just causes mozilla to crash with a sig 11. Do I need to do anything else? I found no plugins or helpers in $HOME/.mozilla. Should there be? Oh, and this is 9.2 cooker beta 1. :) John Drouhard David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] playing .ra files (2)
I followed John Brouhard's suggestion and checked edit/preferences in mozilla. Now it does bring up xine, but has trouble with the plugin rpm from brazil that I got from his other message. Xine is telling me that it lacks a plugin for Real Audio. Specifically, it doesn't know how to handle RealAudio COOK, whatever that is. It points out that libcook.so.6 is not installed. I don't seem to have that library here. I tried variants of 'urpmf /usr/lib/cook' - nothing. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] playing .ra files (2)
http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/ Go here and download the RealPlayer9 and w32codec rpms. You will get support for that. I have the rpm's - specifically 0.52 of thw w32codec. But I already have w32codecs from plf. I am therefore getting conflicts between the two rpms. Should I then uninstall the plf and install the one from .br? w32codec just seems to provide win32 dlls and other files as I would expect. I found the 'cook' lib in users/Real/Codecs underneath the RealPlayer9 dir. Should I try making a symlink? Trying a symlink into /usr/lib doesn't give an error for the 'cook' lib, but it says it can't find a demuxer plugin for the url I specified. In the error details, I get a message that the demuxer failed to start, but that it did find a demuxer plugin. John Drouhard David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] About to plunge.
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[expert] About to plunge
Well.,...
After looking to the Twiki pages on how to verify good burned CDs of
ISOs, I burned new copies of the Cooker CDs and verified that their
md5sums were all correct.
Also the command I used to record 'cdrecord -dev 1,2,0 -speed 4
-data ${ISOIMAGE}' needed -dao to give a completed correct burn.
Otherwise, I end up with a CD with a K or so missing. I don't
remember whether I included -dao when I burned 9.1 CDs a few
weeks ago. I was pretty green then.
I also verified that drakfloppy booted /dev/hdb6 -- my current
working partition. It did - and it didn't hang like it did before,
so that's a good sign.
So, here goes 9.2 :)
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[expert] i'm up
Hey ... all done. cooker 9.2 is installed and ready. Sound was a bit of an issue (as it always seems to be) the stock kernel could not insmod the emu10k1 device, or couldn't find it. I attempted to insmod it manually and got a list of unresolved symbols. Next, instaled multimedia kernel, and along the way picked up a number of extra things, like k3b, gcombust, mplayer, audacity, etc. Booting with the mm kernel gives me sound so at least that is working. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Making / Verifying 9.2beta ISOs
You need to add the -dao flag to cdrecord if you want to be able to run successfully md5sum against the finished CD: Hmm. Well, I read the other posts, checked out the web page that was being referenced - and that's a cool tip. Despite using 'dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat format=%s /tmp/MandrakeCD2image` | md5sum ' as recommended (essentially it dd's the filesize, so it ignores padding) I get different results. I also get an input/output error from dd right at the end. As mentioned, the size of the first CD (I just burned CD #2) is off by a K or two. After I posted, I did as I suggested, which was to loopback mount the first ISO someplace, and mount the burned CD, and run 'diff -r' be- tween the two. It got to someplace in what looked like Afrikaans help files and quit with an input output error. I could not 'cat' that file off the mounted CD-ROM. It may be minor enough (since I don't speak Afrikaans) that I can still install but I'm going to try -dao on CD #3 and try that -v switch. When I burned these CD's I did not see any errors from cdrecord. And (boohoo) I only have one cdrw in my collection :(. But I got nearly 100 CD-Rs. I hope they're not like the old 3 for $1.00 audio tapes I used to get when I was a kid -- only good for speech (i.e, mp3's) and not serious stuff :). Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] time drift
Hi On a previous message I noted my issue with kde's clock having the wrong timezone. Still haven't sorted that out. But I noticed today that the system's time was wrong - still the right timezone but about 20 minutes off PDT using the 'popcorn' service (speaking clock). I apparently sync to time.nrc.ca, that's the one I picked, but if it's the source of the bad time, maybe the time is different in Canada? Back when I installed I seem to recall there was a list of available time servers, but I haven't seen where this list is stored post-install. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kcheckers
I had to edit the Makefile and specify the location of $(QTDIR), then specify that qmake lives in $(QTDIR)/bin before make qmake would succeed. After doing that, make fails: I first tried it and couldn't make it work. Then I remembered having to set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3) and then it went all the way through. I was surprised there was no ./configure present. At any rate I'll go install it. su - root well - keep in mind that the 'su' makes a new environment, so you need to reset QTDIR again. It's a pretty simple install, only two files. pdn.cpp:2:19: qfile.h: No such file or directory In file included from pdn.cpp:5: pdn.h:5:25: qstringlist.h: No such file or directory Well, urpmf /usr/include/qstringlist.h - if set up. Maybe you left out a development rpm. It may not live in /usr/include precisely. Actually, here it is part of /usr/lib/qt3/include, and inside qt3-devel. 'locate qfile.h' shows it also in /usr/lib/qt3 /include, not in /usr/include. On some systems, it would be symlinked to /usr/include/qt or something. I noticed that a binary is included, but it fails to run because Mandrake doesn't use the same naming convention as the developer's Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] kcheckers
finally got a chance to look at this again and found that someone put an RPM up -- had to install it with --nodeps, but it works. That's neat. I already compiled it though :). Anyway, it would be nice to have an rpm for gtkatlantic and play some Monopoly on the net :). I've been successful at compiling but some others need RPMs. But I haven't tried to make an rpm in a very long time :(. It's becoming ever more popular. Jack Coates David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Test
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[expert] followup to boot failure message
I think I found a problem in /etc/lilo.conf Originally I had /dev/ram3 in the 2.4.19-35 image, and that didn't work. Also I noticed boot= set to /dev/hda, which is /var, and my boot is on /dev/hdb. However, I have a boot.0300 file. I'm going to switch it back to /dev/hda for now. I think my lilo is stored in /dev/hda for some reason, and I don't want to fiddle. The only thing I can think of to explain the 'finding module dependencies' issue is the presence of 'append devfs=nomount' vs 'yes' in the appended lilo.conf. One stanza says yes (mount), the other says no. But does that explain not being able to use the cdrecorder? And I was incorrect on the kernel issue. Apparently both are using linux 2.4.19-35mdk, since vmlinuz points there. I've set it up so that one will boot 2.4.19-16, the other 2.4.19-35. But I don't think that will make much difference. I'll try and reboot the 'linux' image now and report back. boot=/dev/hdb map=/boot/map default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk label=linux root=/dev/hdb6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hdb6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi failsafe read-only other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-35mdk label=2419-35 root=/dev/hdb6 read-only optional vga=788 append= initrd=alt0/all.rdz ramdisk_size=32000 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-35mdk.img Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message
Try this move /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf.bkp then create a new lilo.conf this way Hmm. I tried something along those lines and still had the same issue. 2419-35 boots in vga mode and tries to find the root partition, then panics. 'linux' starts up but can't get past the fixing module dependencies stage.. I still haven't been able to sort that out. 'failsafe' works; at least i can get up to telinit 3. About the cdrw - seems ok now, after a power cycle. The drive would just sit there with the drive light on when I inserted a blank cdr and not when I inserted a written CD. So now I'm burning yet another CD. k3b managed to choke and burn and that was the start of the trouble. I can't for the life of me -- at least not yet -- figure out the issue with respect to the fixing module dependencies step... :( it would be nice to know wtf is going on at that point. It was the reason why I lost /dev/hdb7, my more or less up to date cooker with all the goodies :). I'm gonna save off this message and compare it to the existing /etc/lilo.conf. David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] followup to boot failure message
It sounds like you installed the kernel rpm in rescue mode. When you do that, it grabs the current kernel commandline and attempts to keep all That may explain what happened. You might know that originally I managed to hose (or I think I did) my /dev/hdb7 install which was cooker, when installing a new DVD/CDRW combo drive last weekend. I rebooted the system (which had been rebooted before, successfully) and the system hung completely at finding module dependencies (I think). I couldn't boot /dev/hdb7 so I installed mandrake 9.0 on /dev/hdb6. Then I had to install all the missing things (only had one CD of that) just to get to the point where I could burn CDs. I managed to download all three 9.1 ISOs and burn them. I started to reinstall 9.1, and the box locked up solidly just before the exit install step. So, back to square 1. I tried other things too, and that's maybe when I screwed up. ATM, /dev/hdb6 has a 9.0 that's been partially upgraded to cooker. /dev/hdb7 still exists, I just can't boot it, but it'll probably not work since /var has been rebuilt since then (/dev/hda1) so /var/lib/rpm and so forth are way out of sync with respect to what's on /dev/hdb7. So I might as well stick it out with what I have, at least until I have a stable enough cooker from which to burn from. (I mirror usually 2x a day with wget from ftp.sunet.se.) And everything else, I get via urpmi. (James has been helpful I'll admit -- thanks James)... Now ATM I have a working setup - the CD issue seems to have fixed itself, dunno why. But I can only boot in failsafe mode. Otherwise, I get either 1) same issue with respect to the hang at module dependencies or 2) can't find the root filesystem. Once failsafe boots, telinit 3 can bring up the rest of the system, and then I can startx. So - moral - don't reboot :). Blue skies... ToddPublic key: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc There's a medical term for that: freakishly dorky. --Gash Oh wait, is today cynical Friday? --NANOG David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD stuff
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] DVD stuff I get the following list of installed packages: xine-win32-0.9.13-3plf libxine0-0.9.13-3plf xine-ui-0.9.13-2mdk Diego - I had install problems with urpmi so I tried to feed this list to urpmi via 'urpmi --media plf `cat file` It says no such package. I think I have the wrong plf source defined. When i urpmi there is a conflict in that one of the files is 1.0beta and urpmi expects 0.9.13. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD stuff
Somebody scribbled about [expert] DVD stuff OK, so I've got a DVD player in my server and in one of my client systems. I've never used them for more than reading CD roms though. Today I got a wild hare and decided to try one. I tried to use xine + a I had xine working yesterday :( Have had some bad experiences with having to reinstall and crashes. I'm limping along, trying to update, but it seems mplayer is a fine product, and you might have good luck to it. BTW I've had a DVD / cd rw for a couple of days now :). I just now tried to urpmi xine and got a wierd conflict in that the miror I was using (time4t.net -- plf) wanted a certain version for a xine library and the xine library it had was a later version (9.0 plf, that is). To me, installing xine is a little confusing, but I've made it work before. There are a number of supporting libraries you need, but if you just do 'urpmi xine' it's unclear which. Jim C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Compile problem
I'm trying to follow instructions to install a new ov511 driver, as there is a problem with the one included in 9.1. I'm extremely green at this. I'm getting errors referencing include files, and I know I Kernel headers should be in kernel-source (or kernel-headers) rpms. I think they used to be in kernel-headers, but lemme check well the kernel headers are here (/usr/src/linux/include/linux, linked to /usr/include/linux). Funny thing, rpm -q --whatprovides on these files say no package provides them. Theoretically, if there is a missing file, one should be able to find out how to get it. (Side issue: trying to compile gtkatlantic, and I had this working before, but /usr/bin/gtk-config is missing, and I urpmi gtk and get a mess.) /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm should be set up to point to the kernel include files in /usr/src/linux/include/linux and /usr/src/linux/include/asm, respectively. Alternatively try to find a source rom. It's probably going to be easier as it lists the precise dependencies that would be needed to compile it. Especially, given my current situation that's probably what I'll do :). Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] booting a kernel compiled with athlon results inkernel panick :/
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] booting a kernel compiled with athlon results inkernel panick :/ Oh well... I did make clean. I didn't think that I need to do make mrproper or distclean just to compile for other target. is this really required?!? I'd think it would be a good idea. Also you should try building the kernel with 'make zdisk' so it goes into a floppy. Not a good thing if the new kernel hoses your existing boot partition. Adrian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] GPG and signing rpms.
Somebody scribbled about [expert] GPG and signing rpms. Ok, Went to this page. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 I did as well today in preparation for remigrating to cooker (ps I would like very much a gtkatlantic rpm) and ran into something strange. Also I got some wierd pages not found, such as qa.mandrakesoft.com - I wanted to get the public key, so that I wouldn't get those bad signature messages every time I tried to urpmi. By the way, the key import worked well this time with plf. Going through the directions as I type random keys on the keyboard results in this error: gpg: no writable public keyring found: eof Key generation failed: eof Is it a permissions thing? I'm doing it as a regular unprivileged user. following the instructions I created the .rpmmacros file edited it as it outlined. then I did gpg --gen-key filled in the blanks ... generated a key. now when I do (as the same user) rpm --sign --clean -ba somerpm.spec it asks for the passphrase... I enter the same one I did during the key-gen phase.. and I get Pass phrase check failed Anyone have a clue as to what I did wrong? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE K3b cdrw
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] KDE K3b cdrw So thought I'd try the MP3 to audio procedure. Opened a new audio project and drag 'n drop 19 MP3's and started the burn. I did uncheck That's pretty much a summary of what I want to do. From looking at the k3b prog it seems quite doable. I have a number of radio MP3s and others (otr mostly) and want to just burn them to audio cds. Now I just got a burner (Toshiba SD-1312) and there's a separate thread on selecting CD-RWs etc in expert going on. But, my standard 9.2 cooker refuses to boot, so I'm limping along with 9.0 installed to a spare partition right now... not sure if this will even make it to the list. Larry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Is Mail Server Down or have I been unsubscibed??
It was Bastille Day today in France, so it could have been a crash that no one was around to notice (unlikely since Linux doesn't crash :-p) or the list was If you see any short penguins with epaulets and hands inside their coats, shout vive l'Empire Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] wierd probs with tape drive
Hey, I am trying to recover files off of a tape - I did a backup last night, and the machine hung at the end of the backup. So I rebooted, and now (with another tape) am trying to bring in some files I had saved previously - these had reading troubles before. I usually so far haven't had issues with the tape drive, which is an HP Surestore DAT - SCSI using an Adaptec 2910C controller. Now tar is coming back with /dev/st0: cannot allocate memory. I'm using Cooker, with: Linux m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com 2.4.21-0.1mdk #1 Wed May 7 04:38:19 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux Kernel issue? Please i need these files :) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] wierd probs with tape drive
I usually so far haven't had issues with the tape drive, which is an HP Surestore DAT - SCSI using an Adaptec 2910C controller. Bad form I know but it's starting to read the files. Dunno waht happened. I reset the machine, tried 2.4.16 older kernel, couldn't even get into the drive, said no /dev/st0. Modules looked like they were there, but possibly unused. With 2.4.21.0.1mdk, it lets me start tarring from the drive but it seems pretty slow - these are .mp3 files though. I was getting read errors from the drive yesterday... Please i need these files :) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] No Sound (again)
Tired of the endless no sound messages I got it fixed once in 9.x when I used a cooker kernel.. I've taken the plunge and gotten cooker latest mirrored. I did a HD install just a few minutes ago. My kernel is Linux m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com 2.4.21-0.1mdk #1 Wed May 7 04:38:19 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux And there were a number of errors in the boot. There was a slight permissions glitch in adding a user -- I had to chown to dfox because everything had user id 501, which was already dfox from the previous install. But more to the point - it seems 9.x cooker (hot off the press) has trouble initializing the card. Mine's a creative labs SB Live 5.1 version. I had it OK in the previous install, and after finding a better/newer kernel I could eventually change the driver from audigy o emu10k. Maybe there is a kernel module issue --- here is what I get after insmod'ing it manually: emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_send_sysex_Rfddcbfb3 emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_set_instr_Rd85be938 emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_ioctl_Rb66d1f67 emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_reset_R56504ca2 emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol sound_unload_mididev_Ra6bb414c emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_open_Rf6b3a2fb emu10k1.o.gz: unresolved symbol midi_synth_hw_control_Rb14b22cd Snippets from /var/log/dmesg follow. Any suggestions? My grub boot table has two different kernels - maybe I should reboot and try the other one. Jun 20 21:18:25 m206-157 modprobe: init_module: No such device Jun 20 21:18:25 m206-157 modprobe: modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.1mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o.gz failed Jun 20 21:18:25 m206-157 modprobe: modprobe: insmod emu10k1 failed Jun 20 21:18:25 m206-157 sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) failed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] NO MAIL TODAY?
Anyone know the French for stuff happens? Something like cette list avoir besoin d'un lavemant' ? (high school french -- 3 years, but that was 20+ years ago). -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Running updatedb crashes my comp!
action it might help in finding the common thread. If it doesn't die... I'd go back to urpme urpmi sounds like a cool sig (and it even rhymes) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] third test to list
Are my messages getting through to the list?? Anne, I sent this one directly to you as well to see if you get it. If you do, check the Got it ... :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Advertisment about a digital pictures organizer
There is compupic for linux. I just use KDE's konqueror for pic renaming, and storing. There Speaking of KDE and Konqueror, did anyone else notice some of the new features in 3.1? There's a number of new tools available specifically for image gallery and related applications. FWIW. I haven't yet tried it, but there's even a find similar option for pictures -- how that is done eludes me. And don't forget imagemagick/gimp for pic stuff either. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]
Troy Arnold Network Specialist gag, not another blatant web spam. Kick it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Advertisment about a digital pictures organizer
But I am starting to have too many pictures and I need to organize them. In= the windows environment is known the ACD-See package to do that, including= Dunno what ACD-See does, as I've never used it. But you might try using the new Konqueror in 9.1 - it's got some features that might be of use. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Unknown processes...
The most likely culprit is Mailman and Python, and memory is the quickest and easiest fix. I'd run top in a terminal, then sit and watch One thing is supposedly postfix is better at this than sendmail is. There was one time I sent off a (non-spam!) mailing to 200+ addresses, basically at once through a shell for loop. The box's load average climed to over 20, and there was a whole lot of disk activity. Postfix supposedly doesn't need to spawn so many copies, or each fork takes fewer resources than in sendmail. Anyway, I wouldn't probably do the same thing without inserting a 'sleep' in the middle of the loop. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] open source spreadsheet file format.
I can make do assumptions about the systems of the end user... nor about their knowledge level. I can understand that. The end user will just get the data and import it into their favorite spreadsheet or what have you. And it's a given that html is not something that is going to come into a spreadsheet. Yet what I don't understand is a need for it to do so - why should there be an rtf for spreadsheets, as you put it? The formatting (as I see it) should remain in the spreadsheet. The data can be just brought in. Are your users spreadsheet neophytes in that you can't assume they will be able to (for instance) set column widths, decimals, and other cell attributes and that the spreadsheet should look a certain way? Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] open source spreadsheet file format.
I have to write a webapp with a downlaod option for the data.. at present the format is in .csv (comma seperated values) OK, most if not all spreadsheets can take CSV. (csv is nearly identical to Basic DATA statement format, without the DATA tokens, in case anyone's wondering). It seems you have two issues: one of presentation, and one of transmission. It is true that CSV is limited, although the header can be transmitted as the first row of the data. For instance: SEQ,FNAME,LNAME,ACT 1000345,David,Fox,34 1000346,Paul,Jones,37 etc. Then the sheet or app at the other end can just import that, and the user knows what the columns are for. Now as far as presentation is concerned, you could have a perl script or such that would sisplay the data the sheet is about to download before it gets downloaded -- however the real data is still preserved in CSV form. I used to work in an environment where I was getting new sheet data daily and incorporating it into spreadsheets and other things. I seem to recall the presentation of data was done with Java. Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enlarging Swap
Now that I have created (add) another swap partition to have memory enough to suspend to HD, my doubt is what should I have to put in lilo append? I don't think that's an issue. How much total RAM do you have? IMHO you can just add both swap partitions in /etc/fstab and have them autoattach on boot. Is one of the partitions not going to be always available or something like that? One doesn't necessarily have to have one partition that is big enough -- linux can easily use as many swap areas as you might need. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: spam filtering in Windows
I've had good experiences with SpamPal. It's free. Thanks for the tip. Not only that, it'll fit on a floppy, and the installation doesn't look too difficult. I'll pass it on. now if I can find a floppy that actually works :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enlarging Swap
original one. So can I mount both (at different HD) and System will see them as just one? That would be great! Sure. Just resize the NTFS partition smaler and make a new partition using the extra space, then tell Diskdrake to format and use as a swap partition. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT: spam filtering in Windows
This is a multi-part message in MIME format... use fetchmail to pop the mail from SBC, then deliver to a local postfix. Use postfix's tools to bounce via RBL if that floats your boat, or just I would figure that's the easier way to go -- at least for me, since I have already configured postfix/procmail/spamassassin for local delivery here at home. It wouldn't be too much extra work to do that at work - but I may get some pressure to stay within the Windows framework. you're still reliant on SBC's business services, you should be able to support everyone better than presently with any $300 white-box I think we have a couple of PC-100 class machines - some are used for internet searching at work - maybe one of them could do double duty as a mail server. I'll try and recommend it. Or you could buy the commercial windows version of SpamAssassin for all of your desktops (http://www.mcafee.com/myapps/msk/) At $29 per desktop Thanks. I did not make the connection between spamkiller and spam assassin. I'm also looking at Cloadmark (c4.net) and other addins for outlook or outlook express. Jack Coates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enlarging Swap
- Is there any other way of resizing ReizerFS and Swap partitions without using another HD? AFAIK no with Reiserfs. I never tried it, but it's not really an issue if you can save off the orig data in the partition somewhere and then remake the partitions, and restore. I've done that a number of times. Swap partitions don't have to be resized. You can simply add a new one. (preferably on another disk, if possible) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How do you get Realplayer plugin to work?
I select to listen to audio via the realplayer plugin, nothing happens=20 because it freezes up. How do you get the plugin working under KDE/Konquer= I don't need to use artsdsp, but nevertheless it still wants a plugin for realplay. I once was able to get this working - and it seems to work on some sites like bbc. FWiW I was trying with konqueror as well. But with netscape the realplayer comes up embedded in the mini-display only to let me know another app may be using the audio device. So it seems that there's an issue with the browser configuration. I'd rather grab the audio right off the web page with wget and pipe it in - why bother with plugins? I vaguely recall an app called 'rpnhelper' that was supposed to facilitate this - it used to work with Netscape and when I switched to Mozilla I don't think I had to do anything special (maybe it absorbed the netscape things). I don't recall needing to do any extra work to get the sound either -- regardless of whether artdsp or whatever else was running. But lately (and with this) it seems to be interfering. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] upgrading
well, that sux. I'm sure that the upgrade from cds will break tons of things. That's the reason I switched to freebsd :) Mine (via 9.0 urpmi) went fairly smoothy - despite that an upgrade downloaded over 600 megs' worth of new RPMS :(. There was a little glitch with apache (having both apache and apache2) but that doesn't seem to affect anything here. I did lose functionality on the printer, which I thought strange, but a delete and then adding a new printer fixed that problem. (The printer would accept jobs but they'd mysteriously go to /dev/null.) I'm going to try 9.1 and if the problem with packages remains, bye bye You might try debian as well. Gentoo is supposed ho have a ports system. I don't have enough experience to determine whether ports is superior. In my (prior) experience with slackware, you basically upgraded packages yourself, picked what you wanted to upgrade too, grabbed the source code and recompiled. There wasn't any real upgrade path other than reinstalling with a newer distro. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] upgrading
There was a thread (not more than a week ago) in the cooker mailing list where they were experimenting with this. Seems the result was an I don't yet subscribe to cooker and haven't seen that thread, but it is interesting to see how far 'out of spec' their boxes were before they attempted the upgrade. Mine was 9.0 with some upgrades done along the way, so it wasn't virgin 9.0, and I don't have nearly every- thing installed either. Despite that, I got a boatload of new rpms, and urpmi took a while to resolve everything. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] upgrading
sucessful CD based upgrade from 8.0 to 9.1 the other day.. The really neat one was trying (just for fun) to go from RH 7.0 to MDK 9.0 it I used to have RH 5.0 and a bunch of additions and finally decided to upgrade to 7.2 around October 2001 when I got a bigger drive. In the course of installation I had forgotten that the RH rpm database was still in /var/lib/rpm and as such lots of things were missing when I finished the install. OOPS :) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New linux kernel for mdk9
ftp://ftp.dkuug.dk/pub/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS rpmfind.net Why not use urpmi? If your urmpi is synced with the latest cooker there's a 2.4.21 rpm but not a 2.4.20 one. kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk to be more precise. JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm_sensors and i2c devices.... NOT THE ANSWER
System temperature is nice and cool, relatively -- I ain't in a big hurry to stick my hand in there :-). Mine 'seems' that it should be cool as well - I have a full tower case with three case fans as well as (naturally) the fan on the heatsink and a small motherboard fan. Yet, sensors on my setup must not be altogether correctly installed, viz.: as99127f-i2c-0-2d Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at e800 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter VCore 1: +1.84 V (min = +1.74 V, max = +1.93 V) VCore 2: +0.11 V (min = +1.74 V, max = +1.93 V) ALARM +3.3V: +3.53 V (min = +3.13 V, max = +3.45 V) ALARM +5V: +5.02 V (min = +4.72 V, max = +5.24 V) +12V: +12.39 V (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.19 V) -12V: -12.08 V (min = -13.19 V, max = -10.73 V) -5V: -5.42 V (min = -5.24 V, max = -4.74 V) ALARM fan1: 5400 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) fan2: 4963 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) fan3: 2689 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) ALARM temp1: +26°C (limit = +60°C) temp2: +50.0°C (limit = +120°C, hysteresis = +100°C) temp3:+224.4°C (limit = +120°C, hysteresis = +100°C) vid: +1.850 V alarms: beep_enable: Sound alarm enabled This with cooker (is that why temp3 is so high?) :) 9.1 I'm thinking that temp1 and temp2 are more or less right but that temp3 is so way out of reality. I don't hear any audible alarms, yet there are many lines from sensord in my syslog. This is on a 1000mhz Athlon/ Asus A7V/133 motherboard, 266k of ram, and with setiathome / genomeathome (folding-client) typically running 24/7. I've had the system two years now; it's rock solid IMHO. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... =_1048445852-1281-1952 Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Disposition: inline; filename=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com =_1048445852-1281-1952-- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] floppies
Indeed. The industry seems to have decided that the floppy is a dead media -- that's fine, as they do suck, but I wish the industry would Well they are convenient but offer so limited storage as to not be all that useful anymore. And zip / ls-120 aren't as common and nowhere near standard equipment. Media cost is also very expensive. CDRW seems to be more ubiquitous, but then there are reliability problems and it's harder to send files to the CD (you can't just mount and copy files). These days, hard disks are so inexpensive (in many cases a small HD is cheaper than zip disks) that one would think that HD would be transportable. Dunno about how reliable a HD is that is carried around from place to place, but if you can get one for $79 these days that's 20 gigs or more, maybe that's a direction to pursue. It would be easier if there were hotplug like connectors so you don't have to open the machine up. I've seen them used though. CD-R: Write once and it's gone. CD-RW: Write a few times, but each write needs to be done in a different tape? it does have a tape mechanism and is fairly transportable, that is, if the target machine has a compatible tape drive, which would not be all that common on PCs. It's still very common in other arenas. On some older machines, you could even boot from a tape. Jack Coates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] lm_sensors and i2c devices.... NOT THE ANSWER
You need to edit that section of /etc/sensors.conf. As it says: # Asus won't release a datasheet so this is guesswork. Possibly, but I haven't a clue as to how :(. (and please don't say 'emacs /etc/sensors.conf' :( Jack Coates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Howto add Update Sources (Mandrake Update)?
The installation program runs from a RAMdisk when you have 64MB or more of memory. If you have less, as you do, the installation program must run So that's it. I'm not affected by lack of RAM, but it's good to see a coherent explanation. On the same issue - how much RAM does the installation program really need these days? As a fairly longterm user of Linux, I've seen and done installs in as low as 4 megs of RAM up to my current system configuration, which has 256 megs. As memory resources have increased *quite a bit* in the last several years, it also seems that the installers are getting fancier and requiring more RAM as well. One trick we used (back in the days of SLS and early Slackware) was to define and manually attach a swap partition as soon as was possible during the install process. That way, one could still install on a system that didn't quite have the recommended memory requirements. This doesn't seem applicable these days - at least in that the current installer has to wait until the partition definition screen (i.e., diskdrake) to set these partitions up for us. And, consequently, if there's not enough RAM to get yuo this far, you're in trouble to say the least. I dunno about this, but I would try using urpmi.addmedia instead. Yeah, that works, but you have to install things after the stuff is isntalled on CD#1. On the other hand, I don't have a burner and all I physically had when I installed 9.0 was the first CD. It would have been nice to be able to do on-the-fly urpmi.addmedia's to install stuff from the rest of the system via other means (could be FTP or HD). And in my instance the HD install method blew up early in the install because it could not find a hdlist.cz file :(. Right now I have CD's 2 and 3 ISO's loopmounted and use those for sources for urpmi. Works nicely. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Howto add Update Sources (Mandrake Update)?
I was installing Mandrake 9.0 on a really small (32 Meg) PC. Usually, the install asks what Mandrake cd's you have available, but each time I Hmm. That's kind of hard :(. I thought Miark summed it up best - the installer can't ask for other CD's if the installer has to be on the CD and not on a RAM disk. I'm not certain on memory requirements for the installer. As I commented (to Miarks post) on the list it makes for difficulties if the other cd's (2 3) aren't as easily accessible as is the first one. Ideally, you'd want them all available at once. One can do an urpmi.addmedia after the fact (as I do, since physically I only have a #1 CD and don't have a burner) but it has to be done after the initial install, as far as I know. My previous installs have been HD installs - I just pointed the install to a place on my HD where I had all the packages downloaded to. For 9.0 it's a bit more complex because 1) the HD install broke my box, and 2) I have ISOs for the two other CD's and not the RPMs themselves. So I elected to loopback mount the other 2 CD images some- place, and after urpmi.addmedia, I can then just add packages in as desired. Are you installing 9.0 fresh for the first time on a (new) PC, or do you have a Linuxb setup already working? -- j Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] New linux kernel for mdk9
The kernel will run without the kernel source installed though won't it? But I guess that would stop me compiling other apps on the upgraded machine? Sure, having the sources installed isn't necessary unless you want to compile your own kernel or want to peek :). But some packages may want the kernel headers installed to compile. Luckily, the kernel headers can be installed separately from the rest of the kernel source (kernel headers go under /usr/include/linux by way of a symlink usually). JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Anyone using vcr on mdk9?
I was tempted by the lure of a digital video recorder. I suppose by that you wish to digitize analog video (vcr) into video files. I found this http://www.geocities.com/slothmud/VCR-HOWTO-3.html It seems great, my tv card is working fine with xawtv, so i checked vcr Hmm. I don't have a tv card and I've never used avifile but you might have better success with mencoder (part of mplayer), see http://mplayerhq.hu. Examples seem to suggest it's possible to use mencoder to grab the input from a TV (card) and encode the audio into AVI or other supported formats. Couple that with a crontab setup and you've got a tivo :). It also seems you have a very high level of control on the encoding side, but it's also difficult to figure out how to do it :). There are some examples here: http://mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/documentation.html#tv_examples/ Whether mpleyer is more or less difficult to compile than avifile given your current setup is left as an exercise (grin). And there should be RPMs of both, try plf (plf.zarb.org). One of these days I should get a tv card. It seems there would be interesting possibilities. JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]
Don't forget to pick the max mailbox size up for postfix if that's what you're using. By default it's set at 50 Megs, which roughly translates Good idea. I checked, and the settings are at about 50 megs so I should be fine. Still, my incoming mailbox is pretty darned big so I really should start getting rid of messages or stop reading out of the spool (i.e., use kmail or evolution) but elm is still the fastest way to read mail and if I go back to kmail I have over a hundred megs worth of older mail to slog through :). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]
the meeting is often the time at IHOP. If you go next month maybe I'll run into you. I'll be in the back on a laptop running 9.1 Hmm. I don't attend the meetings due to work - it's difficult to get over to Cisco from South San Jose and I take a bus :(. I had no reason to suspect you were local :). In the cooker They have mentioned casually that they are looking for features people want/need in urpmi the next generation.. might be the time to start requesting. Maybe it's time to finally join the cooker mailing list ;) as if I needed more reading :) - it takes a lot of time just to keep up with just expert and newbie. 42 megs in /var/spool/mail/dfox :). Dunno on apt-get either. But they have talked about the ability to add fallback media to urpmi and I agree it would be helpful. I know I tend Other posters (don't remember who exactly) suggested that one could add secondary sites to urmpi but I don't see how to do that, other than just saying 'urpmi.update alterative-cooker-mirror-name' - and that only controls the update nott the actual urpmi. to remove the cd's as media then add an online site that has the release rpms. When I'm on the move I don't always have disks handy. Right - what I did for 9.0 is I got a CD#1 but since I don't have a CD burner, I couldn't burn ISOs of disks 2 or 3, so I just downloaded the ISOs and loopback mounted them. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]
The line to get plfs gpg sig is. (where # is the command prompt) # lynx -source http://plf.zarb.org/plf.asc | gpg --import OK thanks. been there done that :) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]
Lets put it this way... since cooker hit beta I've averaged about 450 mails a day on that list... topping out at 800 one day... do I read them allno way in H### But I do read a lot of subjects. wow...! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
The drakautoinst method I'm imagining would avoid all the issues and (most of the) complications involved with using urpmi (or apt-get or similiar program) to upgrade an installation. In terms of package management the I've been trying that method more or less with success for many different dist upgrades. The idea is to pop in a new distro CD (I first tried it with Red Hat, despite warnings), cd to the new RPMS directory, and then do 'rpm -Uvh *'. Grabs everything off of the CD that you already have and upgrades it. That's the way it's intended to work, but it doesn't always work that way. There are two scenarios where I don't think urpmi would be smart enough to work around: * situatinos where new 'essential' packages / software are put on the distribution. If you've not installed it before, you'll miss it unless warned about it beforehand. * situatiouns where one RPM is broken up into two or more separate RPMs - for instance gcc which has fractured into maybe 8 separate RPMs. It might be able to see that foo-common-2.xx.i586.rpm now needs foo-misc-2.xx.i586.rpm but the RPM yuo have is just foo-2.xx.i586.rpm. Important system upgrades - like drakwheeze or whatever MDK comes up with could be part of overall MCC (Mandrake Control Center) dependencies that basically say 'if x upgrades this, he needs drakwheeze as well'. Otherwise it won't get installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Pentium4 motherboards keeping ISA slots
I'm enrolled in a project for automating a telescope for robotic use. It's our aim to control the whole system under Linux. A google search on 'linux and telescope automation' shows a link at lowell university where someone is apparently doing just that. http://www.aas.org/publications/baas/v33n3/dps2001/504.htm PCI or ISA bus. However, most of linux device drivers which are availables are for ISA bus only. Maybe that is true for the specialized stuff, but the PCI is pretty mature nowadays, and it's been around a while. So we are forced to consider a PC Pentium4 with a motherboard which would contain ISA slots. I've looked for such kind of motherboards in my nearest local distributors without success. As far as I know ISA slots are becoming less prevalent on motherboards these days. Two years ago when I got this present moto, there were a few that had one isa slot plus a few PCIs. Mine unfortunately doesn't have any ISA. Too bod for my legacy cards (sniff). Octavi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]
(You wouldn't be talking about Rick Moen here would you *grin* ) How'd you guess? :) Yeah Rick and I've butted heads a few times in SVLUG. He used to be really prolific, but I haven't heard from him in a while. I mostly lurk in SVLUG anyway. 1. Space... pulling down roughly the equivalent of your install into /var might be a problem. I see that ans an issue as well. Since it's been said that apt-get gets than installs then gets some more it's better for disk-starved things. A full update to cooker could take lots of room (I'm doing one now, in fact) and while you want to keep closely related packages in cache for dependency issues, there are plenty of stand-alone packages that have no other dependencies. Once they're installed and committed there's little reason to keep them in cache - one should be able to overwrite packages if for no other reason than to save space, or at least to reuse it. The other thing I've noticed is that uprmi sends a set of separate ftp requests for each package it thinks you need, logging in and retrieving one package at a time. I think it would be better to just issue the set of gets for all the packages at once. Also if a site is hung, you have to back out of the update for that site, and there's no way at least to me to have multiple sources for each package -- you have to urpmi.removemedia and then urpmi.addmedia for the alternate source. I dunno if that's true with apt-get. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]
Outside of that...never had a complaint, as long as you keep a generous amount of space in your /var (10gig partition in my desktop Yeah, I needed 670 emgs :). I'm still doing the auto-select. I'm glad I put in 'contrib' - I also had a slow mirror in .ca for plf, so I deleted and replaced with a new entry. I also had to apply --force --nodeps --noclean tk the urpmi command line. Otherwise, I'd probably have to do the whole download again, which took a little over 2 hrs on a 1.5 mpbs ADSL connection - it's about a CD's worth of data, if not a little more. Even on a 1ghz athlon, it takes a while to slog thru all those rpms to find out what to do. There were a few xine packages on plf with bad sigs, so I elected to install them anyway - besides I use mplayer :). There's a lot of conflicts so far with respect to apache related packages and mysql / postgres. In point of fact there apparently exists two different flavors of apache (apache and apache2. Shouldn't one be gotten rid of? I don't really use apache much. They're mostly icon files in /var/www/icons so I doubt they've changed much, but the 'wrapper' (i.e., the rpm) has, and of course it conflicts. Well, at least it's finally installing all those packages. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert]
I never do --force --nodeps on an urpmi unless I absolutely know what's going on. --noclean will save you from having to re-download I would not normally either, but the apache issue seemed to require that. Anyhow the upgrade went smoothly -- took maybe 5 hours to download and install everything. That to me seems a bit excessive but my box was for the most part way out of date with respect to cooker - as a 679+ meg d/l would seem to indicate :(. Surprisingly enough, it went OK, better than I anticipated. So far though I haven't noticed anything strange. Grab the gpg sig from plf's site and add it to root's gpg ring. You might want to elaborate on that one -- I've never used pgp or gpg, and haven't needed to for the checksigs portion of rpm for the other (i.e., Mandrake) sites. I've installed a few things from plf before as well. Vox Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: automatic upgrades via install + drakautoinst WAS: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
Is it possible to use drakautoinst to automate an effectively upgrade a machine from one release to another? Rather than try to use the upgrade Should be. I've wondered the same thing, although not in the context of drakautoinst. Debian (for instance) allows you to do a dist-upgrade (aka apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade). It seemes that one could do the equivalernt -- at least with respect to Cooker, by urpmi --auto-select. But that's fine if you want to mirror what is in cooker, but what if you want to migrate to 9.1rc2, or another version? Would it be as simple as finding a source that was a reference standard for the particular release candidate, adding it to your urpmi source list, and then doing an update followed by a urpmi --auto-select? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
