Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 12:34 am, David E. Fox wrote: Well, first start your app. Note the process id (PID) by top or ps or other method. Start up gdb in a terminal window, and then do 'attach PID' where PID is the process id you wrote down in step #1. Now if the process crashes you will be able to do an analysis of it in gdb. However, if the app doesn't come with source and (more importantly) isn't compiled in debug mode, it's often not very helpful doing this. Thanks David. I'll try this later. Its a commercial game, so I dunno about source or debug mode with it. Still, it won't hurt to try! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
David E. Fox wrote: Having several xmms-insances running at the same time (stress the soundcard a bit), and perform a kernel-compile: make -j 100 bzImage That's pretty extreme... you might void the warranty :). I just tried that, but reduced it to a -j 20 and closed mozilla out because I have 256 megs of RAM - anyhow, the box felt really slow (I have a 1 ghz Athlon). Surprisingly it stayed up and no segfaults, even though the box is running setiathome and folding (protein synthesis) and backing up /home at the same time. Playing .mp3 really sounds strange on such a system - the words come out every few seconds ;). Yeah :) Cool hein ? That real Pain-Music ;) Did you check your box temperature during that, by chance? Is your box overclocked? I didn't but I'm not sure I trust sensors output on this mobo. It's saying some voltages are too high and temp3 is 112 degrees C. I certainly hope not :(. Anyhow the only time my system (rearly 2 yrs old, run 24/7) crashed due to overheating was one time I was doing a seek in a video CD with an old rev of xine. I don't know how it caused it, but alarms started going off... On the Old mainboard I did have a temperature around 60C Celcius... On the actual Board - I can't tell - as the sensors does not work yet (Apparently there are patches around, etc. even the nforce2 SMBUS Code compiled cleanly and loaded - but the rest of the lm_sensors stuff won't work with it... Guess I need to wait a little bit until the Bugs are fixed ) :) Regarding your Temperatures, I'd have a look at /etc/sensors.conf and check if you have configured the right smbus and Chips for you mobo. But with 512MByte of Ram and no -windows System running - the -j 100 works quite good :) on my system ... But if that's Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
Whoops ducking (and laughing) that went over my head. Can you tell me how= to=20 do whatever it is you mentioned? Well, first start your app. Note the process id (PID) by top or ps or other method. Start up gdb in a terminal window, and then do 'attach PID' where PID is the process id you wrote down in step #1. Now if the process crashes you will be able to do an analysis of it in gdb. However, if the app doesn't come with source and (more importantly) isn't compiled in debug mode, it's often not very helpful doing this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:17:46 -0500, Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else having problems with this game under v9.0? I can play it just -so- long then, always...it segfaults out. Whats puzzling is that this game, running under 9.0 on my 2 sons computers runs for hours flawlessly. We all use Nvidia Geforce cards. One is running the 4191 drivers, 2 are using the 3123 drivers. Here is the error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]$ ut2003 Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. Backtrace: [ 1] /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 [0x40d9ae55] Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault] Aborting. I've applied all 4 patches that I could find to update UT2003 (this is the full retail game but it does it with the demo as well). Thanks. I don't know what's causing the segfault, but I can assure you that it is not the XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD message. That message pops up if you're not using a Xi Graphics (XiG) X server. In other words, it happens to all XFree86 users. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan [Yama | http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] I don't actually follow other operating systems much. I don't compete - I just worry about making Linux better than itself, not others. -- Linus Torvalds pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Sunday 02 March 2003 01:17 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Anyone else having problems with this game under v9.0? I can play it just -so- long then, always...it segfaults out. Whats puzzling is that this game, running under 9.0 on my 2 sons computers runs for hours flawlessly. We all use Nvidia Geforce cards. One is running the 4191 drivers, 2 are using the 3123 drivers. If you are the one with the different drivers, try and isolate that by dropping back to theirs. If it is not the drivers, it sounds like it could also be a heat issue ie, program segfaults when things get a little warm. What's the cooling like on your machine? -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Sunday 02 March 2003 01:58 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I don't know what's causing the segfault, but I can assure you that it is not the XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD message. That message pops up if you're not using a Xi Graphics (XiG) X server. In other words, it happens to all XFree86 users. Yes, I had found that in a couple of message threads from searching Google. I know other UT2003 users have had this same problem - has no one come up with a solution yet? -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Sunday 02 March 2003 08:46 am, Greg Meyer wrote: If you are the one with the different drivers, try and isolate that by dropping back to theirs. If it is not the drivers, it sounds like it could also be a heat issue ie, program segfaults when things get a little warm. What's the cooling like on your machine? Hi Greg. I've tried both 3123 and 4191 drivers. I also ran memtest for about 12 hours/24 passes on my 512 megs of DDR Ram. No errors reported. System temp is 27 C. CPU temp is 50 C. After 12 hours of running memtest, it was 52 C. I've had the game segfault right after booting up, like 2 mins into the game, and I've had it run for 2 hours, with the machine having been on all day. In single player or across the LAN. Seems to be totally random. Tribes 2 and Rune also crash, back to the desktop. Whats really odd is that not even one of my WineX games, including a hog like Warcraft 3, crash. They all run perfectly. These 3 games run fine under 9.0 on my 2 sons comps (Geforce 2 cards). I even tried renaming /lib/i686 to i686.old and copying their i686 folders to mine, then running ldconfig. Made no difference, same error. I'm really at a loss. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
Have you tried running it in gdb ? then doing what ever you do to make it SIGSEGV I've found div-by-zero and other bugs this way. Cheers JG on the 02/03/03 15:23, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2003 08:46 am, Greg Meyer wrote: If you are the one with the different drivers, try and isolate that by dropping back to theirs. If it is not the drivers, it sounds like it could also be a heat issue ie, program segfaults when things get a little warm. What's the cooling like on your machine? Hi Greg. I've tried both 3123 and 4191 drivers. I also ran memtest for about 12 hours/24 passes on my 512 megs of DDR Ram. No errors reported. System temp is 27 C. CPU temp is 50 C. After 12 hours of running memtest, it was 52 C. I've had the game segfault right after booting up, like 2 mins into the game, and I've had it run for 2 hours, with the machine having been on all day. In single player or across the LAN. Seems to be totally random. Tribes 2 and Rune also crash, back to the desktop. Whats really odd is that not even one of my WineX games, including a hog like Warcraft 3, crash. They all run perfectly. These 3 games run fine under 9.0 on my 2 sons comps (Geforce 2 cards). I even tried renaming /lib/i686 to i686.old and copying their i686 folders to mine, then running ldconfig. Made no difference, same error. I'm really at a loss. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
Hi Ronald, I had a similar experience once with a Computer, Via-Chipset. Averred that the Mainboard had a problem. The issue actually was a combination of Network/Sound/Memory High PCI Usage. Means - that I always had a segfault when these 4 things where producing together a high-load. In the End - removing the soundcard (Soundblaster Live 1024 Player) made it more playable. I was able to reproduce the Segfault/System lockups sometimes when: Having several xmms-insances running at the same time (stress the soundcard a bit), and perform a kernel-compile: make -j 100 bzImage Make sure you have enough Ram for a -j 100 ;) 90% of the time - I had a crash or a problem ... Maybe you want to check that out ... I find the kernel-compile with the option -j 100 better than any memory Test stuff around there ;) cause it's not only the memory that needs tested, but the environment it runs in. Cheers Joerg Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2003 08:46 am, Greg Meyer wrote: [...] Hi Greg. I've tried both 3123 and 4191 drivers. I also ran memtest for about 12 hours/24 passes on my 512 megs of DDR Ram. No errors reported. System temp is 27 C. CPU temp is 50 C. After 12 hours of running memtest, it was 52 C. I've had the game segfault right after booting up, like 2 mins into the game, and I've had it run for 2 hours, with the machine having been on all day. In single player or across the LAN. Seems to be totally random. Tribes 2 and Rune also crash, back to the desktop. Whats really odd is that not even one of my WineX games, including a hog like Warcraft 3, crash. They all run perfectly. These 3 games run fine under 9.0 on my 2 sons comps (Geforce 2 cards). I even tried renaming /lib/i686 to i686.old and copying their i686 folders to mine, then running ldconfig. Made no difference, same error. I'm really at a loss. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2003 08:46 am, Greg Meyer wrote: If you are the one with the different drivers, try and isolate that by dropping back to theirs. If it is not the drivers, it sounds like it could also be a heat issue ie, program segfaults when things get a little warm. What's the cooling like on your machine? Hi Greg. I've tried both 3123 and 4191 drivers. I also ran memtest for about 12 hours/24 passes on my 512 megs of DDR Ram. No errors reported. System temp is 27 C. CPU temp is 50 C. After 12 hours of running memtest, it was 52 C. What is your video cards temp? an over heating video card will segfault / crash / lockup. I had this exact problem, getting a fan for the video card fixed the problem. It could also be a bad video card, after it overheats many times it might just be shot. :( I've had the game segfault right after booting up, like 2 mins into the game, and I've had it run for 2 hours, with the machine having been on all day. In single player or across the LAN. Seems to be totally random. Tribes 2 and Rune also crash, back to the desktop. Whats really odd is that not even one of my WineX games, including a hog like Warcraft 3, crash. They all run perfectly. But are they pushing the video card to it's limit? These 3 games run fine under 9.0 on my 2 sons comps (Geforce 2 cards). I even tried renaming /lib/i686 to i686.old and copying their i686 folders to mine, then running ldconfig. Made no difference, same error. I'm really at a loss. Try swapping cards? -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
Having several xmms-insances running at the same time (stress the soundcard a bit), and perform a kernel-compile: make -j 100 bzImage That's pretty extreme... you might void the warranty :). I just tried that, but reduced it to a -j 20 and closed mozilla out because I have 256 megs of RAM - anyhow, the box felt really slow (I have a 1 ghz Athlon). Surprisingly it stayed up and no segfaults, even though the box is running setiathome and folding (protein synthesis) and backing up /home at the same time. Playing .mp3 really sounds strange on such a system - the words come out every few seconds ;). Did you check your box temperature during that, by chance? Is your box overclocked? I didn't but I'm not sure I trust sensors output on this mobo. It's saying some voltages are too high and temp3 is 112 degrees C. I certainly hope not :(. Anyhow the only time my system (rearly 2 yrs old, run 24/7) crashed due to overheating was one time I was doing a seek in a video CD with an old rev of xine. I don't know how it caused it, but alarms started going off... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Sunday 02 March 2003 12:09 pm, J. Grant wrote: Have you tried running it in gdb ? then doing what ever you do to make it SIGSEGV I've found div-by-zero and other bugs this way. Cheers JG Whoops ducking (and laughing) that went over my head. Can you tell me how to do whatever it is you mentioned? -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Sunday 02 March 2003 04:06 pm, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hi Ronald, I had a similar experience once with a Computer, Via-Chipset. Averred that the Mainboard had a problem. The issue actually was a combination of Network/Sound/Memory High PCI Usage. Means - that I always had a segfault when these 4 things where producing together a high-load. In the End - removing the soundcard (Soundblaster Live 1024 Player) made it more playable. I was able to reproduce the Segfault/System lockups sometimes when: Having several xmms-insances running at the same time (stress the soundcard a bit), and perform a kernel-compile: make -j 100 bzImage Make sure you have enough Ram for a -j 100 ;) 90% of the time - I had a crash or a problem ... Maybe you want to check that out ... I find the kernel-compile with the option -j 100 better than any memory Test stuff around there ;) cause it's not only the memory that needs tested, but the environment it runs in. Cheers Joerg Hi Joerg. Thanks for the reply. I'll save this e-mail and play around with that option when I get a bit more time (work ya know!). :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Sunday 02 March 2003 07:15 pm, Bryan Whitehead wrote: What is your video cards temp? an over heating video card will segfault / crash / lockup. I had this exact problem, getting a fan for the video card fixed the problem. It has a built in fan - how do I find out the cards temp? It could also be a bad video card, after it overheats many times it might just be shot. :( I suppose - although it is brand new. But are they pushing the video card to it's limit? Well, I don't know about the WineX games doing that, but UT2003 crashing after 2 mins, then doint nothing different but starting the game back, and it runs for 2 hours, then stopping and starting it again to have in crash in 10 mins... You see, the randomness? :-( Try swapping cards? I could but I hate to mess with their systems - they are solid. Thanks for the reply. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] UT2003 help?
Anyone else having problems with this game under v9.0? I can play it just -so- long then, always...it segfaults out. Whats puzzling is that this game, running under 9.0 on my 2 sons computers runs for hours flawlessly. We all use Nvidia Geforce cards. One is running the 4191 drivers, 2 are using the 3123 drivers. Here is the error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]$ ut2003 Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. Backtrace: [ 1] /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 [0x40d9ae55] Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault] Aborting. I've applied all 4 patches that I could find to update UT2003 (this is the full retail game but it does it with the demo as well). Thanks. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 09:58 pm, Lorne wrote: Ahhh crap, that complicates things. I thought I had read where they were all the same. I guess just some components are the same. I'm fairly certain it is hardware based, but perhaps with some tweaking of cmos or ?? you can get it more stable. How about slowing it down using the safe cmos settings and see if that makes a difference? Or how about opening up the case and putting a fan across it to see if it is a flakey piece of ram or something? How hot is the cpu getting? Well, they are a lot alike. :-) I've looked at CMOS stuff, and aside from differences in BIOS's, I tend to set them to be the same on all 3 machines. I can underclock it, I suppose - I'm not using the optimized settings now, but the default/safe ones. 50 degrees C... that should be okay, right? I guess I'm going to have to grab memtest and run it to see if shows anything. Ram modules are only about 2 months old Thanks for your help! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Thursday 13 February 2003 12:53 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 12 February 2003 09:58 pm, Lorne wrote: Ahhh crap, that complicates things. I thought I had read where they were all the same. I guess just some components are the same. I'm fairly certain it is hardware based, but perhaps with some tweaking of cmos or ?? you can get it more stable. How about slowing it down using the safe cmos settings and see if that makes a difference? Or how about opening up the case and putting a fan across it to see if it is a flakey piece of ram or something? How hot is the cpu getting? Well, they are a lot alike. :-) I've looked at CMOS stuff, and aside from differences in BIOS's, I tend to set them to be the same on all 3 machines. I can underclock it, I suppose - I'm not using the optimized settings now, but the default/safe ones. 50 degrees C... that should be okay, right? h... that sounds pretty darned hot. I forget what cpu speed you are running. I'm running a 2.5ghz and it is cooler than that I'm almost positive. I don't think intel gets flakey at that temp though. You might make sure you have some special goo to transfer the heat between the heat sink and chip. ?? I guess I'm going to have to grab memtest and run it to see if shows anything. Ram modules are only about 2 months old Well best of luck to you man. Thanks for your help! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 10:48 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 10:04 pm, Lorne wrote: I'd start by swapping out the ram from one of the others and seeing of the problem follows. If not, try video card and then... well you get the idea. :) Ram is different on all 3 machines comp1 - 512 megs DDR ram (2100) comp2 - 384 megs DDR ram (1600) comp3 - 384 megs ram (not DDR) ;-( Ahhh crap, that complicates things. I thought I had read where they were all the same. I guess just some components are the same. I'm fairly certain it is hardware based, but perhaps with some tweaking of cmos or ?? you can get it more stable. How about slowing it down using the safe cmos settings and see if that makes a difference? Or how about opening up the case and putting a fan across it to see if it is a flakey piece of ram or something? How hot is the cpu getting? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] UT2003 help?
-Posted this to newbie first- Anyone else having problems with this game under v9.0? I can play it just -so- long then, always...it segfaults out. Whats puzzling is that this game, running under 9.0 on my 2 sons computers runs for hours flawlessly. We all use Nvidia Geforce cards. One is running the 4191 drivers, 2 are using the 3123 drivers. All are AMD cpu equipped. Here is the error message: [darklord@darkforce darklord]$ ut2003 Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. Backtrace: [ 1] /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 [0x40d9ae55] Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault] Aborting. I've applied all 4 patches that I could find to update UT2003 (this is the full retail game but it does it with the demo as well). Thanks. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
haven't played it, but... three machines with same OS, same video card, same video driver, one of them keeps crashing? Sounds to me like the one machine is a) the one with the different video driver, or b) overheating. On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 08:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote: -Posted this to newbie first- Anyone else having problems with this game under v9.0? I can play it just -so- long then, always...it segfaults out. Whats puzzling is that this game, running under 9.0 on my 2 sons computers runs for hours flawlessly. We all use Nvidia Geforce cards. One is running the 4191 drivers, 2 are using the 3123 drivers. All are AMD cpu equipped. Here is the error message: [darklord@darkforce darklord]$ ut2003 Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. Backtrace: [ 1] /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 [0x40d9ae55] Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault] Aborting. I've applied all 4 patches that I could find to update UT2003 (this is the full retail game but it does it with the demo as well). Thanks. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 10:29 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: -Posted this to newbie first- Anyone else having problems with this game under v9.0? I can play it just -so- long then, always...it segfaults out. Whats puzzling is that this game, running under 9.0 on my 2 sons computers runs for hours flawlessly. We all use Nvidia Geforce cards. One is running the 4191 drivers, 2 are using the 3123 drivers. All are AMD cpu equipped. Here is the error message: [darklord@darkforce darklord]$ ut2003 Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. I get that too, I don't think it's fatal. I've applied all 4 patches that I could find to update UT2003 (this is the full retail game but it does it with the demo as well). hmmm, maybe it's that old memory thing. I recall in earlier kernels like the one in 9.0 mine would slow down at times real bad. I don't guess mine ever crashed, but using mem=nopentium helped my issues out (amd system). you might try that. hth, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 01:31 pm, Jack Coates wrote: haven't played it, but... three machines with same OS, same video card, same video driver, one of them keeps crashing? Sounds to me like the one machine is a) the one with the different video driver, or b) overheating. Hi Jack. Thanks for the reply. Well, actually - its using the 3123 driver just like one of the other comps. Overheating - well, I checked in BIOS after a few hours and its reporting 50 c. AFAIK, that should be fine, right? Also, its not the whole system that is crashing, just this one game that segfaults back to the desktop (I start it from a term.). The system itself sets for hours with no problems - never crashed like that. Any other ideas? Thanks again! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 01:36 pm, s wrote: [darklord@darkforce darklord]$ ut2003 Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. I get that too, I don't think it's fatal. Right. According to the readme in one of the patches, its expecting Xi Graphics stuff - which of course, is not there. Like you said, its not fatal and not my real problem. hmmm, maybe it's that old memory thing. I recall in earlier kernels like the one in 9.0 mine would slow down at times real bad. I don't guess mine ever crashed, but using mem=nopentium helped my issues out (amd system). you might try that. hth, -s Tried that once on someone else's suggestion already - didn't help. A post from the Linux Game Tome says that if you have your own computers name in /etc/hosts that it causes problems. I do have that, can change it, but then I get system slowdown (windows won't open fast). Can't tell it helped either. Also, one said that it was a glibc problem, and a symbolic link was needed between /lib/i686/libpthread-0.9.so and /lib/libpthread.so.X? There is a file by the name of libpthread-0.9.so in each directory already but they are not the same size. I tried linking with libpthread.so.0 (not sure what to use?) but it didn't help. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ronald J. Hall wrote on Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 02:57:47PM -0500 : Also, one said that it was a glibc problem, and a symbolic link was needed between /lib/i686/libpthread-0.9.so and /lib/libpthread.so.X? There is a file by the name of libpthread-0.9.so in each directory already but they are not the same size. I tried linking with libpthread.so.0 (not sure what to use?) but it didn't help. Wild shot in the dark here. cd /lib mv i686 i686.nouse ldconfig Then see if it still does it (probably requires a runlevel change, maybe even a reboot). This will make it use the i586 optimized glibc instead of the i686 optimized glibc. Good luck. Blue skies... Todd - -- | MandrakeSoft USA | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mandrakesoft.com | Sometimes you get experience.| | http://www.mandrakelinux.com |--unknown origin | Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SWAplp7v05cW2woRApjYAKCx6Lx2qLjPmixQVEUZZ/17kMuiLwCgoX62 3klAGzuMZiM6E8O93KN54PI= =AXYf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 12:47 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 11 February 2003 01:31 pm, Jack Coates wrote: haven't played it, but... three machines with same OS, same video card, same video driver, one of them keeps crashing? Sounds to me like the one machine is a) the one with the different video driver, or b) overheating. Hi Jack. Thanks for the reply. Well, actually - its using the 3123 driver just like one of the other comps. Overheating - well, I checked in BIOS after a few hours and its reporting 50 c. AFAIK, that should be fine, right? Also, its not the whole system that is crashing, just this one game that segfaults back to the desktop (I start it from a term.). The system itself sets for hours with no problems - never crashed like that. Any other ideas? Thanks again! I'd start by swapping out the ram from one of the others and seeing of the problem follows. If not, try video card and then... well you get the idea. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 10:04 pm, Lorne wrote: I'd start by swapping out the ram from one of the others and seeing of the problem follows. If not, try video card and then... well you get the idea. :) Ram is different on all 3 machines comp1 - 512 megs DDR ram (2100) comp2 - 384 megs DDR ram (1600) comp3 - 384 megs ram (not DDR) ;-( -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 help?
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 03:42 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: Wild shot in the dark here. cd /lib mv i686 i686.nouse ldconfig Then see if it still does it (probably requires a runlevel change, maybe even a reboot). This will make it use the i586 optimized glibc instead of the i686 optimized glibc. Good luck. Blue skies... Todd I'll try that and report back. BTW, this won't interfere with other RPMs that I've installed that are 686, or stuff I've compiled will it? Just a thought. Thanks for the help, Todd! :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Re: [expert] ut2003
Congratulations! My son is very happy with ut2003, I am sure you will too. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Viernes, Enero 17, 2003 4:46 am Asunto: Re: [expert] ut2003 OH MY GOSH I finally got it! I can't believe the hoops I had to jump through to get it working. The box I installed it on is running the smp kernel which *may* have made a difference (but shouldn't have), I disabled supermount and devfs, I wasn't able to run the installer from within 'X', it had to be done from the command line, and finally, I had to run the installer like so: ./linux_installer.sh instead of sh linux_installer.sh or it would complain about glibc 2.1 and exit the install. There was NO documentation on the box nor within and very little on the web - for being commercial software, I think epic could have done quite a bit better than that... 3 DAYS to install that game!!! Thanks for the suggestions, Mike On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:36:39 +0100 From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ut2003 I have the whole ut2003 runing fine in my Mandrake 9.0 with Geforce4 Pentium III. I had to dissable the buggy supermount, open two konsole, put the third cd-rom in the second cd-drive and I used the other console to mount the next cds in the first cd-driver. If you need more help I could explain it you in more detail. El Jue 16 Ene 2003 03:00, Ronald J. Hall escribió: On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: Hey all, Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a folder called scorched earth and populates it with some files then under that directory it creates scorched earth then populates it with the same files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it) I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm stumped. Thanks, Mike Mike, is that the demo or the full game? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
On Thursday 16 January 2003 10:47 pm, Michael Holt wrote: Full - but I have it running now - FINALLY! Now for nvidia to patch their last 4191 drivers and I'll be a happy camper! Thanks, Mike You having trouble with those too? I'm using the 4191 set, and with the demo of UT2003 I get a segfault so far into the game, everytime... :-( -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: Hey all, Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a folder called scorched earth and populates it with some files then under that directory it creates scorched earth then populates it with the same files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it) I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm stumped. Thanks, Mike Mike, is that the demo or the full game? -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
I have the whole ut2003 runing fine in my Mandrake 9.0 with Geforce4 Pentium III. I had to dissable the buggy supermount, open two konsole, put the third cd-rom in the second cd-drive and I used the other console to mount the next cds in the first cd-driver. If you need more help I could explain it you in more detail. El Jue 16 Ene 2003 03:00, Ronald J. Hall escribió: On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: Hey all, Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a folder called scorched earth and populates it with some files then under that directory it creates scorched earth then populates it with the same files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it) I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm stumped. Thanks, Mike Mike, is that the demo or the full game? -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia Campus de Espinardo E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
OH MY GOSH I finally got it! I can't believe the hoops I had to jump through to get it working. The box I installed it on is running the smp kernel which *may* have made a difference (but shouldn't have), I disabled supermount and devfs, I wasn't able to run the installer from within 'X', it had to be done from the command line, and finally, I had to run the installer like so: ./linux_installer.sh instead of sh linux_installer.sh or it would complain about glibc 2.1 and exit the install. There was NO documentation on the box nor within and very little on the web - for being commercial software, I think epic could have done quite a bit better than that... 3 DAYS to install that game!!! Thanks for the suggestions, Mike On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:36:39 +0100 From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ut2003 I have the whole ut2003 runing fine in my Mandrake 9.0 with Geforce4 Pentium III. I had to dissable the buggy supermount, open two konsole, put the third cd-rom in the second cd-drive and I used the other console to mount the next cds in the first cd-driver. If you need more help I could explain it you in more detail. El Jue 16 Ene 2003 03:00, Ronald J. Hall escribió: On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: Hey all, Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a folder called scorched earth and populates it with some files then under that directory it creates scorched earth then populates it with the same files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it) I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm stumped. Thanks, Mike Mike, is that the demo or the full game? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
Full - but I have it running now - FINALLY! Now for nvidia to patch their last 4191 drivers and I'll be a happy camper! Thanks, Mike On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:00:03 -0500 From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ut2003 On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: Hey all, Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a folder called scorched earth and populates it with some files then under that directory it creates scorched earth then populates it with the same files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it) I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm stumped. Thanks, Mike Mike, is that the demo or the full game? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ut2003
Hey all, Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a folder called scorched earth and populates it with some files then under that directory it creates scorched earth then populates it with the same files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it) I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm stumped. Thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
Hi Miark, here we go. The XF86Config-4 file has the Following Section-Module Entry: Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. Loaddbe # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. Loadextmod SubSection extmod #Option omit xfree86-dga EndSubSection # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Loadv4l Loadtype1 Loadfreetype Loadglx #Load dri EndSection Then - in the ut2003 start-script I added the following: #4x Gaussian Anti-Alias sampling export __GL_FSAA_MODE=0 #Maximum Anisotpic Texture Filtering export __GL_DEFAULT_LOG_ANISO=0 #Force VBlank Syncing On export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=0 That's what makes it fastest from my tests. Of course - all kernel drivers etc. you can compile for the NVidia stuff - compile them yourself. Cheers Joerg Miark wrote: Yes, that would be cool. Thanks. Miark -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : Mobile Diax: +41(0)76 / 490 52 54 | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 22 November 2002 4:05 pm, Miark wrote: :-) Yes, I got the splash screen. I know when the nVidia drivers aren't working becuase TuxRacer is simply unplayable. But it's a-rockin' right now. By the way, here's my relevant system info: 1.1GHz Athlon, 1.0 GB RAM, and GeForce 4MX 460. How close, in actuality, should the performance be between playing in Winsux and Linux? Is it possible that my XFree needs a tweak? Might UT need to be called up with special parameters? Is it possible that UT2003 is not using the nVidia drivers despite the fact they're there? I doubt this last one because the play is smooth until it's in the middle of really heated play. Miark On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:56:29 -0500 I recommend recompiling your kernel. For me (I have a P4 1.3 GHz with 384MB RDRAM using Geforce4 Ti 4200 128MB DDR RAM) I noticed a considerable change in performance when I recompiled my kernel. I selected only nvidia drivers for the video, creative drivers only for my sb audigy sound card, and realtek 8139 drivers for my NIC card. This produced gaming on a level that has me almost wearing Depends! I wil post my XFree86-4 config file if that might help any: Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. Load dbe # This loads the Video for Linux module. Load v4l # This loads the NV for OpenGL Linux module. Load glx # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load type1 Load freetype # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. Subsection extmod #Option omit xfree86-dga EndSubsection EndSection - -- - Altoine B Maximum Time Unlimited Chicago Based and Operated http://pgp.mit.edu - Getting into trouble is easy. -- D. Winkel and F. Prosser - 2.4.19-19nds Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Cooker) for i586 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE94TQsxjybQmhmUgYRAseiAKCiJAB4ijz9+9xaCcoZO+P3l2KuzwCff9vU /to8sFrQxY1FrYFteRHeycY= =taio -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
Hi Miark I got a Athlon 1.3GHz, 512MBytes of Ram and a NVidia Geforce3 Ti500 - and details set to low - I can even go onto huge servers and have not too big problems with speed (24Players). So - It's fast enough for me ;) If you want - I could send you my X-Config file for you to compare. I tweaked around a little bit. I did also set some env. Vars on the ut2003 start script to make it faster. Just basic stuff - but it helped a little (Got a slow Mainboard with AliMagick Chipset - around 10% slower than a good VIA Mainboard). Cheers Joerg On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Miark wrote: Ya, I'm using the proprietary nVidia drivers. By the way, someone said it works fine if you have a fast system. Is that fast as in 1GHz+ or 2GHz? I have a 1.1GHz. Miark -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
And on the subject of fast machines - I have a dual athlon 1900+ system - does UT2003 have the ability to use smp? I'm really annoyed that q3a only enables smp for windows machines - they note some 'bug' that made them decide to disable it in the linux version - I wish they would have just fixed the 'bug'! Anyway, that was one of the reasons I built the dual system, better game action! Mike 12:14am, Ronald J. Hall mused: On Thursday 21 November 2002 10:44 am, you wrote: You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. Just out of curiosity, what r u calling a fast machine? We installed the demo on my sons computer: Duron 850mhz 256 megs ram Nvidia 32 meg Geforce 2 and it works fine. Nowadays, a computer isn't fast to me unless its 2.0 ghz or faster. :-) -- Michael Holt Banning, CA(o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
Miark, you say it slows down in heated game play - is that single player or network? Could it be network related? Just a thought. Mike Yesterday, Miark mused: :-) Yes, I got the splash screen. I know when the nVidia drivers aren't working becuase TuxRacer is simply unplayable. But it's a-rockin' right now. By the way, here's my relevant system info: 1.1GHz Athlon, 1.0 GB RAM, and GeForce 4MX 460. How close, in actuality, should the performance be between playing in Winsux and Linux? Is it possible that my XFree needs a tweak? Might UT need to be called up with special parameters? Is it possible that UT2003 is not using the nVidia drivers despite the fact they're there? I doubt this last one because the play is smooth until it's in the middle of really heated play. Miark -- Michael Holt Banning, CA(o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
No, it's single player. Miark On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:32:30 -0800 (PST) Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miark, you say it slows down in heated game play - is that single player or network? Could it be network related? Just a thought. Mike Yesterday, Miark mused: :-) Yes, I got the splash screen. I know when the nVidia drivers aren't working becuase TuxRacer is simply unplayable. But it's a-rockin' right now. By the way, here's my relevant system info: 1.1GHz Athlon, 1.0 GB RAM, and GeForce 4MX 460. How close, in actuality, should the performance be between playing in Winsux and Linux? Is it possible that my XFree needs a tweak? Might UT need to be called up with special parameters? Is it possible that UT2003 is not using the nVidia drivers despite the fact they're there? I doubt this last one because the play is smooth until it's in the middle of really heated play. Miark -- Michael Holt Banning, CA(o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
Yes, that would be cool. Thanks. Miark On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:31:26 +0100 (CET) Joerg Mertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Miark I got a Athlon 1.3GHz, 512MBytes of Ram and a NVidia Geforce3 Ti500 - and details set to low - I can even go onto huge servers and have not too big problems with speed (24Players). So - It's fast enough for me ;) If you want - I could send you my X-Config file for you to compare. I tweaked around a little bit. I did also set some env. Vars on the ut2003 start script to make it faster. Just basic stuff - but it helped a little (Got a slow Mainboard with AliMagick Chipset - around 10% slower than a good VIA Mainboard). Cheers Joerg On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Miark wrote: Ya, I'm using the proprietary nVidia drivers. By the way, someone said it works fine if you have a fast system. Is that fast as in 1GHz+ or 2GHz? I have a 1.1GHz. Miark -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
On Thursday 21 November 2002 10:44 am, you wrote: You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. Just out of curiosity, what r u calling a fast machine? We installed the demo on my sons computer: Duron 850mhz 256 megs ram Nvidia 32 meg Geforce 2 and it works fine. Nowadays, a computer isn't fast to me unless its 2.0 ghz or faster. :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
Ya, I'm using the proprietary nVidia drivers. By the way, someone said it works fine if you have a fast system. Is that fast as in 1GHz+ or 2GHz? I have a 1.1GHz. Miark On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:32:13 -0800 JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a stupid question, but have you installed the NVidia drivers? If not, you're using MESA which is not HW accelerated. David -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux Any performance tips, Alan? I'm running it at 800x600, and with all the detail turned off, or to the lowest setting possible, and the game play still sucks. In WinblowsXP, I run with almost everything turned on or at Normal and at 1280x768 and the game play is smth. I have a GeForce 4 MX 460. Miark On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:44:46 -0800 (PST) alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance The Linux installer is on disc 3 of the boxed set. You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. Here are a couple of things to need to know to install it. Have two xterms open. Mount the cdrom from one and do the install on the other. Use the full path to the setup binary. You will need to mount and unmount a number of times during the process. Also there is a difference between what is written on the discs and what the installer calls for. (It thinks that there is a play disc, disc 1 and disc 2 instead of discs 1, 2 3.) Just offset by one and it should work. If it does not like the disc, just try another. ]: BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] UT2003 and linux
are you absolutely sure? When you start X, do you get an nVidia splash screen? David -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux Ya, I'm using the proprietary nVidia drivers. By the way, someone said it works fine if you have a fast system. Is that fast as in 1GHz+ or 2GHz? I have a 1.1GHz. Miark On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:32:13 -0800 JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a stupid question, but have you installed the NVidia drivers? If not, you're using MESA which is not HW accelerated. David -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux Any performance tips, Alan? I'm running it at 800x600, and with all the detail turned off, or to the lowest setting possible, and the game play still sucks. In WinblowsXP, I run with almost everything turned on or at Normal and at 1280x768 and the game play is smth. I have a GeForce 4 MX 460. Miark On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:44:46 -0800 (PST) alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance The Linux installer is on disc 3 of the boxed set. You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. Here are a couple of things to need to know to install it. Have two xterms open. Mount the cdrom from one and do the install on the other. Use the full path to the setup binary. You will need to mount and unmount a number of times during the process. Also there is a difference between what is written on the discs and what the installer calls for. (It thinks that there is a play disc, disc 1 and disc 2 instead of discs 1, 2 3.) Just offset by one and it should work. If it does not like the disc, just try another. ]: BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
On November 22, 2002 10:14 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 21 November 2002 10:44 am, you wrote: You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. Just out of curiosity, what r u calling a fast machine? We installed the demo on my sons computer: Duron 850mhz 256 megs ram Nvidia 32 meg Geforce 2 and it works fine. Nowadays, a computer isn't fast to me unless its 2.0 ghz or faster. :-) Thanks Dark Lord! Mine is a bleedin' stone axe by that definition! PIII 500 (honest it ain't over-clocked!) 768 MB PC 133 Creative TNT (NVidia) 16 MB But I ain't replacin' it 'til The Hammer is available at more than 3.0 GHz. Maybe 2.8 (true, not Quanti-Speed :P) GHz. Or maybe when the Athlon is available over the counter as an XP 3400 or so. Or maybe next week. ;-) Maybe I could borrow my son's Duron 1.3 to see what's so great about fast. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
The demo is runing like a charm in my Pentium III 800 with 256Kb of Ram and a Geforce4 Ti 64Mb. El Vie 22 Nov 2002 19:54, Miark escribió: Ya, I'm using the proprietary nVidia drivers. By the way, someone said it works fine if you have a fast system. Is that fast as in 1GHz+ or 2GHz? I have a 1.1GHz. Miark On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:32:13 -0800 JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a stupid question, but have you installed the NVidia drivers? If not, you're using MESA which is not HW accelerated. David -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux Any performance tips, Alan? I'm running it at 800x600, and with all the detail turned off, or to the lowest setting possible, and the game play still sucks. In WinblowsXP, I run with almost everything turned on or at Normal and at 1280x768 and the game play is smth. I have a GeForce 4 MX 460. Miark On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:44:46 -0800 (PST) alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance The Linux installer is on disc 3 of the boxed set. You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. Here are a couple of things to need to know to install it. Have two xterms open. Mount the cdrom from one and do the install on the other. Use the full path to the setup binary. You will need to mount and unmount a number of times during the process. Also there is a difference between what is written on the discs and what the installer calls for. (It thinks that there is a play disc, disc 1 and disc 2 instead of discs 1, 2 3.) Just offset by one and it should work. If it does not like the disc, just try another. ]: BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
:-) Yes, I got the splash screen. I know when the nVidia drivers aren't working becuase TuxRacer is simply unplayable. But it's a-rockin' right now. By the way, here's my relevant system info: 1.1GHz Athlon, 1.0 GB RAM, and GeForce 4MX 460. How close, in actuality, should the performance be between playing in Winsux and Linux? Is it possible that my XFree needs a tweak? Might UT need to be called up with special parameters? Is it possible that UT2003 is not using the nVidia drivers despite the fact they're there? I doubt this last one because the play is smooth until it's in the middle of really heated play. Miark On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:56:29 -0500 JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are you absolutely sure? When you start X, do you get an nVidia splash screen? David -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux Ya, I'm using the proprietary nVidia drivers. By the way, someone said it works fine if you have a fast system. Is that fast as in 1GHz+ or 2GHz? I have a 1.1GHz. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] UT2003 and linux
From what I've heard, the Linux drivers are actually better than the Windows drivers. My theory is that somehow your GLX and/or OpenGL drivers are still Mesa. Did you install the NVIDIA-GLX RPM as well? I have a similar system and TuxRacer is really smooth. I would try to rpm -ivh --force both the nvida kernel modules and the glx rpms again and see if that fixes it. If that doesn't work, then try the following: find where the nvidia glx .so's are being installed. You can do this by opening up kpackage and inspecting the file list. in you xfree config file, rather than saying load glx say load nvida glx path/libglx.so my nvidia drivers are located in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions Also, I assume you're using XFree 4.20 and *not* 3.x. If you're using 3.x, I don't think you can get the 3d working with the nvidia cards. Good luck! David -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux :-) Yes, I got the splash screen. I know when the nVidia drivers aren't working becuase TuxRacer is simply unplayable. But it's a-rockin' right now. By the way, here's my relevant system info: 1.1GHz Athlon, 1.0 GB RAM, and GeForce 4MX 460. How close, in actuality, should the performance be between playing in Winsux and Linux? Is it possible that my XFree needs a tweak? Might UT need to be called up with special parameters? Is it possible that UT2003 is not using the nVidia drivers despite the fact they're there? I doubt this last one because the play is smooth until it's in the middle of really heated play. Miark On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:56:29 -0500 JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are you absolutely sure? When you start X, do you get an nVidia splash screen? David -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux Ya, I'm using the proprietary nVidia drivers. By the way, someone said it works fine if you have a fast system. Is that fast as in 1GHz+ or 2GHz? I have a 1.1GHz. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
In my case, I changed a few weeks ago my old Voodoo3 3000 for a Creative 3D Blaster Titanium. First of all I installed the 2 rpms of Nvidia; then I run XFdrake and the video-card started to run inmediately; just I had to add some lines in the XF86-Config4 file to have the tv-output runing. UT2003 demo is runing absolutely incredible!! -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] UT2003 and linux
I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] UT2003 and linux
I thought the Linux release was in the same box as the Windows release, but I can't seem to find any documentation to prove that. In any case, if you're going to buy this, I recommend tuxgames.com. I've dealt with them in the past and have had very good luck. Also, if it isn't Linux, they don't sell it. So it's pretty safe to assume that what you're getting from them will run on your system. Here's a link: http://www.tuxgames.com/details.cgi?gameref=89 HTH David -Original Message- From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] UT2003 and linux I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance The Linux installer is on disc 3 of the boxed set. You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. Here are a couple of things to need to know to install it. Have two xterms open. Mount the cdrom from one and do the install on the other. Use the full path to the setup binary. You will need to mount and unmount a number of times during the process. Also there is a difference between what is written on the discs and what the installer calls for. (It thinks that there is a play disc, disc 1 and disc 2 instead of discs 1, 2 3.) Just offset by one and it should work. If it does not like the disc, just try another. ]: BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
David, thanks so much for your help El Vie 22 Nov 2002 00:08, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) escribió: I thought the Linux release was in the same box as the Windows release, but I can't seem to find any documentation to prove that. In any case, if you're going to buy this, I recommend tuxgames.com. I've dealt with them in the past and have had very good luck. Also, if it isn't Linux, they don't sell it. So it's pretty safe to assume that what you're getting from them will run on your system. Here's a link: http://www.tuxgames.com/details.cgi?gameref=89 -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
Thanks a lot for the clues Alan. El Jue 21 Nov 2002 16:44, alan escribió: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance The Linux installer is on disc 3 of the boxed set. You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. Here are a couple of things to need to know to install it. Have two xterms open. Mount the cdrom from one and do the install on the other. Use the full path to the setup binary. You will need to mount and unmount a number of times during the process. Also there is a difference between what is written on the discs and what the installer calls for. (It thinks that there is a play disc, disc 1 and disc 2 instead of discs 1, 2 3.) Just offset by one and it should work. If it does not like the disc, just try another. ]: BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
Alan, My machine is a Pentium III 800 256Mb RAm and with a Geforce 4 Ti with 64 Mb; the demo is runing in it like a charm. See you -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] UT2003 and linux
I purchased UT2003 at Walmart, there is no mention of Linux on the box but the linux installer is located on CD3, I haven't had a chance to try it myself, I have too much other junk on my HD...and haven't had time to make room :-( ..but I did check CD3 for the installer. http://linuxworld.com.au/article.php3?aid=368tid=8 On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 17:08, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: I thought the Linux release was in the same box as the Windows release, but I can't seem to find any documentation to prove that. In any case, if you're going to buy this, I recommend tuxgames.com. I've dealt with them in the past and have had very good luck. Also, if it isn't Linux, they don't sell it. So it's pretty safe to assume that what you're getting from them will run on your system. Here's a link: http://www.tuxgames.com/details.cgi?gameref=89 HTH David -Original Message- From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] UT2003 and linux I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
The third CD of UT2003 has a Linux installer. I couldn't tell you how _well_ it works, but it's there. Miark On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:59:17 +0100 Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:44:46 -0800 (PST) alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are a couple of things to need to know to install it. Have two xterms open. Mount the cdrom from one and do the install on the other. Use the full path to the setup binary. You will need to mount and unmount a number of times during the process. Yes, and * If you have supermount enabled, disable it with supermount disable * Use the FULL mount command to mount the CDs. If you use mount /mnt/cdrom it won't work. You must do a mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom or whatever your CD drive is /dev/cdrom, or /dev/hdc, etc. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] UT2003 and linux
Any performance tips, Alan? I'm running it at 800x600, and with all the detail turned off, or to the lowest setting possible, and the game play still sucks. In WinblowsXP, I run with almost everything turned on or at Normal and at 1280x768 and the game play is smth. I have a GeForce 4 MX 460. Miark On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:44:46 -0800 (PST) alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: I have runing fine Ut2003 demo, but when I like to buy the programe just a windows release is avalaible :-( Is there any linux release or do I need the windows installation and a linux-server package? thanks for the help in advance The Linux installer is on disc 3 of the boxed set. You need to be running a very fast machine with the proprietary nVIDIA drivers (as well as an nVIDIA video card) and lots of memory and disk space. Here are a couple of things to need to know to install it. Have two xterms open. Mount the cdrom from one and do the install on the other. Use the full path to the setup binary. You will need to mount and unmount a number of times during the process. Also there is a difference between what is written on the discs and what the installer calls for. (It thinks that there is a play disc, disc 1 and disc 2 instead of discs 1, 2 3.) Just offset by one and it should work. If it does not like the disc, just try another. ]: BTW, it works great as long as you have a very fast machine. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
