subject:"Re\: \[expert\] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`"

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 08:09 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> Well, you're right about there being something suspicious about the way XP
> does business. Browsing win98 clients is just slow as sh you know.
> That's even after the registry tweaks that are supposed to fix the browse
> problem. Secondly, MS crippled XP to allow no more than 5 simo network
> connections rendering it useless as an impromptu file server. I have XP pro
> at home, but it is also on the same box as linux rendering it useless to
> test the file transfer issue. There is an answer
> somewhere...and let me know when you find out what it is.
>
Unfortunately with 2 young children, my wife working on her doctorate and both 
of us working full time jobs, it will be one of those things that will 
probably  get solved by some clever fellows out there, but I am going to send 
this trace to a real sharp engineer and see if he can decode it more than my 
limited abilities. I'll let everyone know if he figures it out.

I can say it only encourages me more to complete the transformation away from 
uncle billie and his gang of thieves.  I know... I make good money fixing 
their s#$t, and we will probaby never be 'rid' of them but  I ended up 
setting up two physical boxes (I hate the slow herky jerky of VMware) with a 
KVM switch. I can switch back and forth between XP and Mdk. 

I really appreciate everyones ideas. Maybe a microsoft engineer will pop in 
here an decode this mystery for us. hahahah

> --
> David C. Rankin
> Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
> 510 Ochiltree Street
> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> (936) 715-9333
> (936) 715-9339 fax
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
>
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> > > Lorne
> > >
> > > You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet
> > > fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to
>
> pull
>
> > > out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation
>
> of
>
> > > smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS
>
> for
>
> > > XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The
> > > site I posted earlier but can't find now, the "ubhix" something
> > > like that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that.
> >
> > I've been suspicious of a change in the way XP does business, but can't
>
> put my
>
> > finger on it. I may take my traces to an Extreme engineer and see if he
>
> can
>
> > lay his finger on it.
> >
> > > I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it
>
> sounds
>
> > > identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits.
> > >
> > > Another site that looks promising is
> > > http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket
> > > Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the
> > > fragmentation issue by follow the test specified.
> >
> > I am not seeing fragmentation in the trace. It does do things slightly
> > differently, but I've had a hard time really dissecting it today. I'm
>
> going
>
> > to read and tinker with the above suggestions I think. For now, I'll just
> > have to transfer from linux to xp. I use my mdk box more often anyhow. :)
> > I have the bigger drives in the XP box. Guess I'll just use the XP box
> > for storage. hahaha
> >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > --
> > > David C. Rankin
> > > Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
> > > 510 Ochiltree Street
> > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> > > (936) 715-9333
> > > (936) 715-9339 fax
> > >
> > > For those in Texas - Vote NO to prop 12 on September 13th. They're your
> > > constitutional rights. You can either vote NO to keep them or vote yes
>
> (or
>
> > > do nothing) and let the insurers and HMO's take them away in the name
> > > of corporate greed. Your choice.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > On T

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

Well, you're right about there being something suspicious about the way XP
does business. Browsing win98 clients is just slow as sh you know.
That's even after the registry tweaks that are supposed to fix the browse
problem. Secondly, MS crippled XP to allow no more than 5 simo network
connections rendering it useless as an impromptu file server. I have XP pro
at home, but it is also on the same box as linux rendering it useless to
test the file transfer issue. There is an answer somewhere...and
let me know when you find out what it is.

--
David C. Rankin
Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax

- Original Message - 
From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> > Lorne
> >
> > You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet
> > fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to
pull
> > out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation
of
> > smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS
for
> > XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The
> > site I posted earlier but can't find now, the "ubhix" something like
> > that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that.
> >
> I've been suspicious of a change in the way XP does business, but can't
put my
> finger on it. I may take my traces to an Extreme engineer and see if he
can
> lay his finger on it.
>
> > I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it
sounds
> > identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits.
> >
> > Another site that looks promising is
> > http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket
> > Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the fragmentation
> > issue by follow the test specified.
> >
> I am not seeing fragmentation in the trace. It does do things slightly
> differently, but I've had a hard time really dissecting it today. I'm
going
> to read and tinker with the above suggestions I think. For now, I'll just
> have to transfer from linux to xp. I use my mdk box more often anyhow. :)
> I have the bigger drives in the XP box. Guess I'll just use the XP box for
> storage. hahaha
>
> > Good luck.
> >
> > --
> > David C. Rankin
> > Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
> > 510 Ochiltree Street
> > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> > (936) 715-9333
> > (936) 715-9339 fax
> >
> > For those in Texas - Vote NO to prop 12 on September 13th. They're your
> > constitutional rights. You can either vote NO to keep them or vote yes
(or
> > do nothing) and let the insurers and HMO's take them away in the name of
> > corporate greed. Your choice.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> >
> > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> > > > > > See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
> > >
> > > I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little
executable
> >
> > that
> >
> > > did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the
> >
> > registry
> >
> > > to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the
window
> >
> > size
> >
> > > to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good
news.
> >
> > The
> >
> > > bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds
to
> >
> > copy
> >
> > > an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It
went
> >
> > too
> >
> > > quickly.
> > >
> > > > > What is odd about this web site is that even though it says
> > > > > 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP
doesn't
> > > > > have those
> >
> > key
> >
> > > > > settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference
to
> > > > > window size on support.microsof

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> Lorne
>
> You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet
> fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to pull
> out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation of
> smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS for
> XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The
> site I posted earlier but can't find now, the "ubhix" something like
> that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that.
>
I've been suspicious of a change in the way XP does business, but can't put my 
finger on it. I may take my traces to an Extreme engineer and see if he can 
lay his finger on it. 

> I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it sounds
> identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits.
>
> Another site that looks promising is
> http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket
> Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the fragmentation
> issue by follow the test specified.
>
I am not seeing fragmentation in the trace. It does do things slightly 
differently, but I've had a hard time really dissecting it today. I'm going 
to read and tinker with the above suggestions I think. For now, I'll just 
have to transfer from linux to xp. I use my mdk box more often anyhow. :)
I have the bigger drives in the XP box. Guess I'll just use the XP box for 
storage. hahaha

> Good luck.
>
> --
> David C. Rankin
> Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
> 510 Ochiltree Street
> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> (936) 715-9333
> (936) 715-9339 fax
>
> For those in Texas - Vote NO to prop 12 on September 13th. They're your
> constitutional rights. You can either vote NO to keep them or vote yes (or
> do nothing) and let the insurers and HMO's take them away in the name of
> corporate greed. Your choice.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
>
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> > > > > See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
> >
> > I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little executable
>
> that
>
> > did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the
>
> registry
>
> > to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the window
>
> size
>
> > to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good news.
>
> The
>
> > bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds to
>
> copy
>
> > an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It went
>
> too
>
> > quickly.
> >
> > > > What is odd about this web site is that even though it says
> > > > 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't
> > > > have those
>
> key
>
> > > > settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to
> > > > window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd.
> > >
> > > OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp.
> > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
> > > > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
> > > > > 510 Ochiltree Street
> > > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> > > > > (936) 715-9333
> > > > > (936) 715-9339 fax
> > > > > --
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both
>
> ways.
>
> > > > > > > I've
> > > > >
> > > > > not
> > > > >
> > > > > >

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

Lorne

You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet
fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to pull
out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation of
smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS for
XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The site
I posted earlier but can't find now, the "ubhix" something like that
suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that.

I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it sounds
identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits.

Another site that looks promising is
http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket
Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the fragmentation
issue by follow the test specified.

Good luck.

--
David C. Rankin
Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax

For those in Texas - Vote NO to prop 12 on September 13th. They're your
constitutional rights. You can either vote NO to keep them or vote yes (or
do nothing) and let the insurers and HMO's take them away in the name of
corporate greed. Your choice.

- Original Message - 
From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> > > > See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
> > >
> I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little executable
that
> did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the
registry
> to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the window
size
> to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good news.
The
> bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds to
copy
> an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It went
too
> quickly.
>
> > > What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP...
> > > virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those
key
> > > settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to
> > > window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd.
> >
> > OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
> > > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
> > > > 510 Ochiltree Street
> > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> > > > (936) 715-9333
> > > > (936) 715-9339 fax
> > > > --
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both
ways.
> > > > > > I've
> > > >
> > > > not
> > > >
> > > > > > even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total
> > > > > > (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the
fast!
> > > > > > Not sure yet
> > > >
> > > > what
> > > >
> > > > > > else I'll dig up.
> > > > >
> > > > > This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fast transfer uses about
> > > > >
> > > > > protocols
> > > > >
> > > > > nbss 1/4+ total
> > > > > smb 1/4- total
> > > > > tcp1/2 total
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Slow transfers
> > > > >
> > > > > nbss 5/8 total
> > > > > smb 1/16 total
> > > > > tcp 1/3? total
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some
> > > >
> > > > differences.
> > > >
> > > > > The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer
from
> > > > > XP
> > > >
> > > > window
> > > >
> > > > > size of 10220. Linux is using 64240.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify
> > > > > Winders?
> > > >
> > >
> ---
> > > >-- -- - 
> > > >
> > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>
>
>






> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> > > See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
> >
I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little executable that 
did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the registry 
to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the window size 
to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good news. The 
bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds to copy 
an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It went too 
quickly. 

> > What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP...
> > virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those key
> > settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to
> > window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd.
>
> OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp.
>
> > > --
> > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
> > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
> > > 510 Ochiltree Street
> > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> > > (936) 715-9333
> > > (936) 715-9339 fax
> > > --
> > > - Original Message -----
> > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay,
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways.
> > > > > I've
> > >
> > > not
> > >
> > > > > even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total
> > > > > (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast!
> > > > > Not sure yet
> > >
> > > what
> > >
> > > > > else I'll dig up.
> > > >
> > > > This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up.
> > > >
> > > > Fast transfer uses about
> > > >
> > > > protocols
> > > >
> > > > nbss 1/4+ total
> > > > smb 1/4- total
> > > > tcp1/2 total
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Slow transfers
> > > >
> > > > nbss 5/8 total
> > > > smb 1/16 total
> > > > tcp 1/3? total
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some
> > >
> > > differences.
> > >
> > > > The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from
> > > > XP
> > >
> > > window
> > >
> > > > size of 10220. Linux is using 64240.
> > > >
> > > > Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify
> > > > Winders?
> > >
> > > ---
> > >-- -- - 
> > >
> > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> > See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
>
> What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP...
> virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those key
> settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to window
> size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd.
>
OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp. 
> > --
> > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
> > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
> > 510 Ochiltree Street
> > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> > (936) 715-9333
> > (936) 715-9339 fax
> > --
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> >
> > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay,
> > > >
> > > > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways.
> > > > I've
> >
> > not
> >
> > > > even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without
> > > > subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet
> >
> > what
> >
> > > > else I'll dig up.
> > >
> > > This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up.
> > >
> > > Fast transfer uses about
> > >
> > > protocols
> > >
> > > nbss 1/4+ total
> > > smb 1/4- total
> > > tcp1/2 total
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Slow transfers
> > >
> > > nbss 5/8 total
> > > smb 1/16 total
> > > tcp 1/3? total
> > >
> > >
> > > Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some
> >
> > differences.
> >
> > > The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP
> >
> > window
> >
> > > size of 10220. Linux is using 64240.
> > >
> > > Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify
> > > Winders?
> >
> > -
> >-- - 
> >
> > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
>
What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP... 
virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those key 
settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to window 
size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd. 

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> - Original Message -
> From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
>
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay,
> > >
> > > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've
>
> not
>
> > > even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without
> > > subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet
>
> what
>
> > > else I'll dig up.
> >
> > This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up.
> >
> > Fast transfer uses about
> >
> > protocols
> >
> > nbss 1/4+ total
> > smb 1/4- total
> > tcp1/2 total
> >
> >
> >
> > Slow transfers
> >
> > nbss 5/8 total
> > smb 1/16 total
> > tcp 1/3? total
> >
> >
> > Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some
>
> differences.
>
> > The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP
>
> window
>
> > size of 10220. Linux is using 64240.
> >
> > Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders?
>
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157

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> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
> >
> > Okay,
> >
> > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've
not
> > even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without
> > subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet
what
> > else I'll dig up.
>
> This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up.
>
> Fast transfer uses about
>
> protocols
>
> nbss 1/4+ total
> smb 1/4- total
> tcp1/2 total
>
>
>
> Slow transfers
>
> nbss 5/8 total
> smb 1/16 total
> tcp 1/3? total
>
>
> Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some
differences.
> The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP
window
> size of 10220. Linux is using 64240.
>
> Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify Winders?
>
>






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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
>
> Okay,
>
> Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not
> even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without
> subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what
> else I'll dig up.

This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up.

Fast transfer uses about

protocols

nbss1/4+ total
smb 1/4- total
tcp1/2 total

Slow transfers

nbss5/8 total
smb 1/16 total
tcp 1/3? total

Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some differences. 
The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP window 
size of 10220. Linux is using 64240. 

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:

Okay, 

Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not 
even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without 
subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what 
else I'll dig up.

> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:27 am, David Rankin wrote:
> > Mates:
> >
> > Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
> > the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer
> > issue appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The
> > slow transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a "packet fragmentation"
> > or "rabbit pellet packet fragmentation" problem by Civileme. The Samba
> > folks also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98,
> > but the same type of problem could have reared its head again.
> >
> > I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason
> > the archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an
> > expert archive search for "packet fragmentation" or "rabbit pellet" to
> > get the history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to
> > recreate this condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to
> > do.
>
> Very good point. I noticed an awful lot of 1514 frames. Let me go back and
> take another look see. I might have missed something.
>
> BAH... I'm going to do another trace. I'll make it more controlled. Using
> the exact same file so I can make a better comparison. I'm not seeing
> anything the jumps out at me. 1514 frames though. ?? I'll write back.
>
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> > - Original Message -
> > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> >
> > > On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
> > > > Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
> >
> > possibly
> >
> > > > in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
> > > >
> > > > You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
> > > >
> > > > go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
> > > > Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
> > > >
> > > > remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
> > >
> > > First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
> > > already tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried
> > > removing the above key and it made no difference at all. As we speak
> > > I'm transferring 285MB
> >
> > of
> >
> > > data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
> > > and
> >
> > my
> >
> > > guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
> >
> > linux
> >
> > > server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
> > > or less!!
> > >
> > > > The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc
> > > > in question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
> > > >
> > > > Also take a look at
> >
> > http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Wind
> >ow s/Windows_XP/?tc=1
> >
> > > , which includes about a hundred windows xp related
> > >
> > > > sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
> > > >
> > > > Just some thoughts,
> > >
> > > Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it
> > > is somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick
> > > today, so I'll do some more "googling" to see if someone has come up
> > > with a "fix"
> >
> > for
> >
> > > this.
> > >
> > > If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my
> > > particular problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba.
> > > Nothing "special". I'm running 100Bt Half d

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 12:13 pm, Thomas Backlund wrote:
> From: "David Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > For what it's worth, here is more info than needed on smb and CIFS.
> >
> > http://ubiqx.org/cifs/index.html#Contents
>
> Just an update for you all...
>
> upcoming MDK 9.2 has cifs support in both kernel and
> Samba 2.2.x / 3.x ...
>
What will be the benefit kernel level support? You wouldn't need samba to 
connect?

> Thomas


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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:36 am, David Rankin wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
> > If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
> > noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).
>
> Brings up a good point. Specifically, how many hubs are we talking
> about? Are there more than 2 hubs between the mdk and XP box? If it's a 1
> hub small network, DNS and NETBIOS braodcasts shouldn't be that much of an
> issue.
>
Not much. A MNF firewall, 1 hub, 1mdk 9.1, 1 xp and one ME. That is it. Traces 
show not much traffic other than the typical arp and bdcst. 

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:27 am, David Rankin wrote:
> Mates:
>
> Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
> the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer issue
> appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The slow
> transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a "packet fragmentation" or
> "rabbit pellet packet fragmentation" problem by Civileme. The Samba folks
> also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98, but the
> same type of problem could have reared its head again.
>
> I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason the
> archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an expert
> archive search for "packet fragmentation" or "rabbit pellet" to get the
> history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to recreate this
> condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to do.
>
Very good point. I noticed an awful lot of 1514 frames. Let me go back and 
take another look see. I might have missed something. 

BAH... I'm going to do another trace. I'll make it more controlled. Using the 
exact same file so I can make a better comparison. I'm not seeing anything 
the jumps out at me. 1514 frames though. ?? I'll write back.


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> From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
>
> > On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
> > > Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
>
> possibly
>
> > > in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
> > >
> > > You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
> > >
> > > go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
> > > Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
> > >
> > > remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
> >
> > First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
> > tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the
> > above key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring
> > 285MB
>
> of
>
> > data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
> > and
>
> my
>
> > guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
>
> linux
>
> > server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
> > or less!!
> >
> > > The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc
> > > in question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
> > >
> > > Also take a look at
>
> http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Window
>s/Windows_XP/?tc=1
>
> > , which includes about a hundred windows xp related
> >
> > > sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
> > >
> > > Just some thoughts,
> >
> > Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it
> > is somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today,
> > so I'll do some more "googling" to see if someone has come up with a
> > "fix"
>
> for
>
> > this.
> >
> > If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
> > problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
> > "special". I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME
>
> fast.
>
> > Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped.
>
> What
>
> > is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
>
> Mandrake I
>
> > don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has
> > been premature. I just thought of this.
> >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Viron
> > > Core Systems Group
> > > Simple End User Linux
> > >
> > > At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > > >> Greg Meyer wrote:
> > > >> >On Monday

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

lorne wrote:

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:14 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

lorne wrote:
   

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:44 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

This illustrates my point perfectly.  When you initiated the transfer on
the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
called it fast (blast).  I repeated that behavior in my own setup.  I
got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
using Konqueror and command line (cp).  I call it slow because when I
initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
the same transfer done in under a minute.  Why the huge difference in
speed?
   

? I think we are talking bananas and apples here. If you read my message,
I stated that after about 9 minutes of transferring the files, I stopped
the XP to linux copy and it was still not done. About 1-2 minutes the
other way around. HUGE difference. You are saying a factor of 2 the
opposite direction of what I'm seeing. I'd be most interested in knowing
how you got that. If I could even get a 2:1 factor I'd be most happy
indeed! I don't have hours to copy something that should take minutes.
makes a linux server rather useless for files no?
 

I'm claiming a doubling in speed to or from either machine as long as
the transfer is initiated by the Windows machine.  If you initiate the
transfer on the Linux machine (using cp, Konqueror, or Nautilus), you
will get a slow transfer.
hen the issue you are having is not the same thing I'm having. Pure and 
simple. 

After reading the rest of your post I agree.

I'm getting roughly 150mb a minute from my linux box to XP (either 
direction initiated from the Linux box) 4-5mb a sec.  

This is also what I am getting (half as slow as when initiated by Windows).

From the XP box to (either direction initiated from the XP box) the linux box I'm getting 
roughly .2 mb a minute! 

That kind of speed can definitely get in the way of getting anything 
done.  :-(

A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be.  The
question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
Windows?
The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It
experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 12:41 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

> >Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
> >If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
> >noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).
>
> Who's network?

Just a simple intranet. 1 hub.

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:09 am, chort wrote:
> Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
> If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
> noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).

Agreed. First thing I looked for in the traces. No collisions, very little 
traffic. This is a network with all of 3 computers. 1 Xp, 1 Mdk 9.1 and 1 ME. 
Well the firewall if that counts, but the arps and bdcasts are at a nominal 
amount. I realize that at Hafl Duplex, I'm not going to see HUGE speeds, but 
roughly 10-20mb a minute is nuts! I would love to hear if anyone is really 
seeing good speeds from XP to Linux at better than 2mb a sec. ?? It looks 
during my research today that SP1 for XP actually causes more problems than 
it solves in some cases. 

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

Ronald J. Hall wrote:

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:22 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

When I initiate a transfer on a Linux (Samba) box to or from another
Linux(Samba) box, or to or from a Windows box, I get 3-4 meg/s
tranfers.  This is the one I'm trying to fix.
   

Yep, that definitely seems slow to me. Isn't there some stuff in the Samba 
configuration file where you can adjust that?

I'm using the Mandrake Samba configuration.  I was under the impression 
that Mandrake's Samba install is configured with widely known speed 
enhancing parameters out of the box.

The problem appears to be in the initiation of the transfer; whatever 
handles that in Mandrake.  Windows has no problem with talking to 
Samba.  Why does Linux?

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:14 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> lorne wrote:
> >On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:44 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> >>This illustrates my point perfectly.  When you initiated the transfer on
> >>the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
> >>called it fast (blast).  I repeated that behavior in my own setup.  I
> >>got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
> >>using Konqueror and command line (cp).  I call it slow because when I
> >>initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
> >>the same transfer done in under a minute.  Why the huge difference in
> >>speed?
> >
> >? I think we are talking bananas and apples here. If you read my message,
> > I stated that after about 9 minutes of transferring the files, I stopped
> > the XP to linux copy and it was still not done. About 1-2 minutes the
> > other way around. HUGE difference. You are saying a factor of 2 the
> > opposite direction of what I'm seeing. I'd be most interested in knowing
> > how you got that. If I could even get a 2:1 factor I'd be most happy
> > indeed! I don't have hours to copy something that should take minutes.
> > makes a linux server rather useless for files no?
>
> I'm claiming a doubling in speed to or from either machine as long as
> the transfer is initiated by the Windows machine.  If you initiate the
> transfer on the Linux machine (using cp, Konqueror, or Nautilus), you
> will get a slow transfer.
>
Then the issue you are having is not the same thing I'm having. Pure and 
simple. I'm getting roughly 150mb a minute from my linux box to XP (either 
direction initiated from the Linux box) 4-5mb a sec. From the XP box to 
(either direction initiated from the XP box) the linux box I'm getting 
roughly .2 mb a minute! 

> >>A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
> >>totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be.  The
> >>question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
> >>Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
> >>Windows?
> >>
> >>The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It
> >>experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being
> >>the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.


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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:22 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

> When I initiate a transfer on a Linux (Samba) box to or from another
> Linux(Samba) box, or to or from a Windows box, I get 3-4 meg/s
> tranfers.  This is the one I'm trying to fix.

Yep, that definitely seems slow to me. Isn't there some stuff in the Samba 
configuration file where you can adjust that?

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

lorne wrote:

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:44 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

This illustrates my point perfectly.  When you initiated the transfer on
the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
called it fast (blast).  I repeated that behavior in my own setup.  I
got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
using Konqueror and command line (cp).  I call it slow because when I
initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
the same transfer done in under a minute.  Why the huge difference in
speed?
? I think we are talking bananas and apples here. If you read my message, I 
stated that after about 9 minutes of transferring the files, I stopped the XP 
to linux copy and it was still not done. About 1-2 minutes the other way 
around. HUGE difference. You are saying a factor of 2 the opposite direction 
of what I'm seeing. I'd be most interested in knowing how you got that. If I 
could even get a 2:1 factor I'd be most happy indeed! I don't have hours to 
copy something that should take minutes. makes a linux server rather useless 
for files no?

I'm claiming a doubling in speed to or from either machine as long as 
the transfer is initiated by the Windows machine.  If you initiate the 
transfer on the Linux machine (using cp, Konqueror, or Nautilus), you 
will get a slow transfer.

A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be.  The
question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
Windows?
The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It
experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

Ronald J. Hall wrote:

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:44 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

 

The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It
experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
   

Missed the first part of this thread, but the above caught me eye:

I use NFS here on our 3 comp LAN and we get around 10-12 megs/s transfers.

I routinely cope big files across to my sons' comps and it surely doesn't take 
as long as you are describing...

I'm not really even sure what I'm supposed to be getting but it seems okay - 
what is a "normal" NFS transfer rate?

In a mixed Windows/ Linux environment it is easier, and from what I've 
read, more secure to use Samba for all file serving.  I haven't used NFS 
for file serving so I can't comment on it's speed.

When I initiate a file transfer on a Windows machine to or from a Linux 
(Samba) machine I get 8-9 megs/s transfers.  When I use an ftp transfer 
on a local network I get 11-12 meg/s transfers.

When I initiate a transfer on a Linux (Samba) box to or from another 
Linux(Samba) box, or to or from a Windows box, I get 3-4 meg/s 
tranfers.  This is the one I'm trying to fix.

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

chort wrote:

On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:44, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

lorne wrote:

   

On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:

 

Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:

go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .

  

   

First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already 
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above 
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB of 
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and my 
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my linux 
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or 
less!! 

 

This illustrates my point perfectly.  When you initiated the transfer on 
the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you 
called it fast (blast).  I repeated that behavior in my own setup.  I 
got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box 
using Konqueror and command line (cp).  I call it slow because when I 
initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get 
the same transfer done in under a minute.  Why the huge difference in speed?

A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a 
totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be.  The 
question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in 
Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by 
Windows?

The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It 
experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being 
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.

   

Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex. 
If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).

Who's network?

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread Thomas Backlund

From: "David Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> For what it's worth, here is more info than needed on smb and CIFS.
> 
> http://ubiqx.org/cifs/index.html#Contents
> 

Just an update for you all...

upcoming MDK 9.2 has cifs support in both kernel and 
Samba 2.2.x / 3.x ...

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

For what it's worth, here is more info than needed on smb and CIFS.

http://ubiqx.org/cifs/index.html#Contents

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Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


> Mates:
>
> Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
> the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer
issue
> appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The slow
> transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a "packet fragmentation" or
> "rabbit pellet packet fragmentation" problem by Civileme. The Samba folks
> also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98, but the
> same type of problem could have reared its head again.
>
> I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason the
> archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an expert
> archive search for "packet fragmentation" or "rabbit pellet" to get the
> history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to recreate this
> condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to do.
>
> --
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> RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
> 510 Ochiltree Street
> Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> (936) 715-9333
> (936) 715-9339 fax
> --
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
>
>
> > On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
> > > Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
> possibly
> > > in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
> > >
> > > You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
> > >
> > > go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
> > > Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
> > >
> > > remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
> > >
> > First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
already
> > tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the
above
> > key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB
> of
> > data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
and
> my
> > guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
> linux
> > server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
or
> > less!!
> >
> > > The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc
in
> > > question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
> > >
> > > Also take a look at
> > >
> >
>
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
> > , which includes about a hundred windows xp related
> > > sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
> > >
> > > Just some thoughts,
> > >
> > Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it
is
> > somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today,
so
> > I'll do some more "googling" to see if someone has come up with a "fix"
> for
> > this.
> >
> > If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
> > problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
> > "special". I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME
> fast.
> > Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped.
> What
> > is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
> Mandrake I
> > don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it
has
> > been premature. I just thought of this.
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Viron
> > > Core Systems Group
> > > Simple End User Linux
> > >
> > > At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > > >> Greg Meyer wrote:
> > > >> >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
>

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


Brian wrote:

> Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
> If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
> noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).
>

Brings up a good point. Specifically, how many hubs are we talking
about? Are there more than 2 hubs between the mdk and XP box? If it's a 1
hub small network, DNS and NETBIOS braodcasts shouldn't be that much of an
issue.

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From: "chort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


> On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:44, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > lorne wrote:
> >
> > >On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
> > >>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
> > >>in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
> > >>
> > >>You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
> > >>
> > >>go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
> > >>Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
> > >>
> > >>remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
already
> > >tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the
above
> > >key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring
285MB of
> > >data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
and my
> > >guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
> > >server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
or
> > >less!!
> > >
> >
> > This illustrates my point perfectly.  When you initiated the transfer on
> > the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
> > called it fast (blast).  I repeated that behavior in my own setup.  I
> > got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
> > using Konqueror and command line (cp).  I call it slow because when I
> > initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
> > the same transfer done in under a minute.  Why the huge difference in
speed?
> >
> > A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
> > totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be.  The
> > question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
> > Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
> > Windows?
> >
> > The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It
> > experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being
> > the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
> >
>
> Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
> If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
> noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).
>
> -- 
> Brian Keefer
>
>
>






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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

Mates:

Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer issue
appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The slow
transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a "packet fragmentation" or
"rabbit pellet packet fragmentation" problem by Civileme. The Samba folks
also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98, but the
same type of problem could have reared its head again.

I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason the
archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an expert
archive search for "packet fragmentation" or "rabbit pellet" to get the
history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to recreate this
condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to do.

--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax
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- Original Message - 
From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


> On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
> > Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
> > in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
> >
> > You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
> >
> > go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
> > Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
> >
> > remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
> >
> First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
> tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above
> key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB
of
> data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and
my
> guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
> server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or
> less!!
>
> > The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
> > question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
> >
> > Also take a look at
> >
>
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
> , which includes about a hundred windows xp related
> > sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
> >
> > Just some thoughts,
> >
> Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it is
> somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today, so
> I'll do some more "googling" to see if someone has come up with a "fix"
for
> this.
>
> If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
> problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
> "special". I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME
fast.
> Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped.
What
> is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
Mandrake I
> don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has
> been premature. I just thought of this.
> > Michael
> >
> > --
> > Michael Viron
> > Core Systems Group
> > Simple End User Linux
> >
> > At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > >> Greg Meyer wrote:
> > >> >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > >> >>I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using
Samba.
> > >> >>I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not
received
> > >> >>any answers resolving the issue.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000
box
> > >> >>it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
> > >> >>either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around
1/3
> > >> >>the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected
> > >> >> behavior?
> > >> >
> > >> >I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.
> > >> > Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it
> > >> > always seems

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread chort

On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:44, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> lorne wrote:
> 
> >On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
> >>in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
> >>
> >>You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
> >>
> >>go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
> >>Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
> >>
> >>remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already 
> >tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above 
> >key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB of 
> >data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and my 
> >guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my linux 
> >server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or 
> >less!! 
> >
> 
> This illustrates my point perfectly.  When you initiated the transfer on 
> the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you 
> called it fast (blast).  I repeated that behavior in my own setup.  I 
> got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box 
> using Konqueror and command line (cp).  I call it slow because when I 
> initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get 
> the same transfer done in under a minute.  Why the huge difference in speed?
> 
> A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a 
> totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be.  The 
> question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in 
> Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by 
> Windows?
> 
> The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It 
> experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being 
> the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
> 

Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex. 
If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).

-- 
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:44 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> This illustrates my point perfectly.  When you initiated the transfer on
> the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
> called it fast (blast).  I repeated that behavior in my own setup.  I
> got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
> using Konqueror and command line (cp).  I call it slow because when I
> initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
> the same transfer done in under a minute.  Why the huge difference in
> speed?
>
?? I think we are talking bananas and apples here. If you read my message, I 
stated that after about 9 minutes of transferring the files, I stopped the XP 
to linux copy and it was still not done. About 1-2 minutes the other way 
around. HUGE difference. You are saying a factor of 2 the opposite direction 
of what I'm seeing. I'd be most interested in knowing how you got that. If I 
could even get a 2:1 factor I'd be most happy indeed! I don't have hours to 
copy something that should take minutes. makes a linux server rather useless 
for files no?

> A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
> totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be.  The
> question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
> Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
> Windows?
>
> The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It
> experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being
> the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.


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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:44 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

> The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It
> experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being
> the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.

Missed the first part of this thread, but the above caught me eye:

I use NFS here on our 3 comp LAN and we get around 10-12 megs/s transfers.

I routinely cope big files across to my sons' comps and it surely doesn't take 
as long as you are describing...

I'm not really even sure what I'm supposed to be getting but it seems okay - 
what is a "normal" NFS transfer rate?

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

lorne wrote:

On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:

Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:

go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .

First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB of
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and my
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my linux
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or
less!!

This illustrates my point perfectly. When you initiated the transfer on
the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
called it fast (blast). I repeated that behavior in my own setup. I
got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
using Konqueror and command line (cp). I call it slow because when I
initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
the same transfer done in under a minute. Why the huge difference in speed?

A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be. The
question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
Windows?

The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux. It
experiences the same crippled transfer speed. The common thread being
the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.

The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
Also take a look at

http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
, which includes about a hundred windows xp related

sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.

Just some thoughts,

Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it is
somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today, so
I'll do some more "googling" to see if someone has come up with a "fix" for
this.

If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
"special". I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME fast.
Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped. What
is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of Mandrake I
don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has
been premature. I just thought of this.

Michael

--
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Core Systems Group
Simple End User Linux
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:

On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list. Still have not received
any answers resolving the issue.
When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box
it flies. When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer. Is this expected
behavior?

I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.
Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast. In any case, it
always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows
machines, not the samba machines.

Windows to Samba was only half of my comment. An incorrect Windows
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.

I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an
"incorrect windows configuration" issue. There is a fundamental issue that
I believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I may
be wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that you
now

longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this is
the problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
> Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
> in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
>
> You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
>
> go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
> Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
>
> remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
>
First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already 
tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above 
key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB of 
data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and my 
guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my linux 
server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or 
less!! 

> The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
> question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
>
> Also take a look at
> 
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
 
, which includes about a hundred windows xp related
> sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
>
> Just some thoughts,
>
Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it is 
somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today, so 
I'll do some more "googling" to see if someone has come up with a "fix" for 
this. 

If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular 
problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing 
"special". I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME fast. 
Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped. What 
is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of Mandrake I 
don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has 
been premature. I just thought of this. 
> Michael
>
> --
> Michael Viron
> Core Systems Group
> Simple End User Linux
>
> At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> >> Greg Meyer wrote:
> >> >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> >> >>I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.
> >> >>I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not received
> >> >>any answers resolving the issue.
> >> >>
> >> >>When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box
> >> >>it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
> >> >>either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3
> >> >>the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected
> >> >> behavior?
> >> >
> >> >I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way. 
> >> > Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it
> >> > always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows
> >> > machines, not the samba machines.
> >>
> >> Windows to Samba was only half of my comment.  An incorrect Windows
> >> configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
> >
> >I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an
> >"incorrect windows configuration" issue. There is a fundamental issue that
> > I believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I may
> > be wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that you
> > now
>
> no
>
> >longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this is
> > the problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??
> >
> >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread Michael Viron

Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and possibly
in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .

You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:

go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry

remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .

The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).

Also take a look at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows
/Windows_XP/?tc=1 , which includes about a hundred windows xp related sites
of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.

Just some thoughts,

Michael

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Core Systems Group
Simple End User Linux
 
At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
>> Greg Meyer wrote:
>> >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
>> >>I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.
>> >>I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not received
>> >>any answers resolving the issue.
>> >>
>> >>When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box
>> >>it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
>> >>either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3
>> >>the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected behavior?
>> >
>> >I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.  Samba
>> > to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it always seems
>> > to be a problem with the configuration of the windows machines, not the
>> > samba machines.
>>
>> Windows to Samba was only half of my comment.  An incorrect Windows
>> configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
>
>I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an 
>"incorrect windows configuration" issue. There is a fundamental issue that I 
>believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I may be 
>wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that you now
no 
>longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this is the 
>problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??
>
>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> Greg Meyer wrote:
> >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> >>I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.
> >>I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not received
> >>any answers resolving the issue.
> >>
> >>When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box
> >>it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
> >>either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3
> >>the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected behavior?
> >
> >I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.  Samba
> > to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it always seems
> > to be a problem with the configuration of the windows machines, not the
> > samba machines.
>
> Windows to Samba was only half of my comment.  An incorrect Windows
> configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.

I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an 
"incorrect windows configuration" issue. There is a fundamental issue that I 
believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I may be 
wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that you now no 
longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this is the 
problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-01 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.  
I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not received 
any answers resolving the issue.

When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box 
it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to 
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3 
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected behavior?

   

I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.  Samba to 
XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it always seems to be a 
problem with the configuration of the windows machines, not the samba 
machines.

This is an addition to my previous email.

I apologize if I hijacked the thread.  I didn't intend to.  I thought 
the comments relavant, but I don't know if anyone else did. :-\

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-01 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
 

I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.  
I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not received 
any answers resolving the issue.

When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box 
it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to 
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3 
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected behavior?

   

I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.  Samba to 
XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it always seems to be a 
problem with the configuration of the windows machines, not the samba 
machines.

Windows to Samba was only half of my comment.  An incorrect Windows 
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Monday 01 September 2003 12:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> Greg Meyer wrote:
> >On Monday 01 September 2003 12:09 am, lorne wrote:
> >>On Sunday 24 August 2003 10:07 pm, lorne wrote:
> >>>I've done some searching and haven't found any previous traffic on this
> >>>exactly. I have two problems. I'm beginning to think they may be
> >>> related:
> >>>
> >>>Copying files from my XP system to my 9.1 samba server is HORRIBLE! Say
> >
> >I'm
> >
> >>>copying 650mb of Wav files. We're talking an hour or so! Looking at the
> >>>traces, everything seems ok. We're moving it along at 1514 chunks.
> >>
> >>Well since no one has taken me on, I'm going to reply to myself. :) I
> >> have found a potential clue. I just did a samba mount to my xp box from
> >> the linux box. Transfers FLY! I can transfer 650MB in 2 minutes flat.
> >> Take that same bunch of files from Xp to linux via samba and it will
> >> take ?? I stopped timing after 20 minutes. ???
> >>
> >>Anybody have any clues? I did find something about disabling a web
> >> service, but it made no difference. At least I have a work around for
> >> now.
> >
> >IIRC, there are some registry settings in XP that affect this.  MS, in an
> >effort to break Samba I'm sure, introduced some registry settings which
> > check for things like remote task execution and stuff on the remote
> > server, assuming it is a windows machine.  I do not recall where
> > specifically I found the info, and I recall a thread about similar
> > problems on win2k not to long ago somewhere.  Not sure if it was on this
> > list though.  With these additional clues though, you probably could come
> > up with something on Google.
>
> I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.
> I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not received
> any answers resolving the issue.
>
I looked and never saw it, or didn't see an answer. 

> When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box
> it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
> either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3
> the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected behavior?

This is not the behavior I'm seeing, so perhaps you are experiencing something 
different. ? In my case I can copy to or from my linux box to the xp box 
fast. From the XP to linux copy to or from is dog slow. ?? I've just spent 
the last 2 hours digging around on sites and so far coming up with zero. I 
DID see where XP SP1 "may" fix the issue. Not sure yet. 

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-01 Thread Greg Meyer

On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> 
> I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.  
> I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not received 
> any answers resolving the issue.
> 
> When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box 
> it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to 
> either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3 
> the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected behavior?
> 
I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.  Samba to 
XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it always seems to be a 
problem with the configuration of the windows machines, not the samba 
machines.
-- 
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-01 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Monday 01 September 2003 12:09 am, lorne wrote:
 

On Sunday 24 August 2003 10:07 pm, lorne wrote:
   

I've done some searching and haven't found any previous traffic on this
exactly. I have two problems. I'm beginning to think they may be related:
Copying files from my XP system to my 9.1 samba server is HORRIBLE! Say 
 

I'm
 

copying 650mb of Wav files. We're talking an hour or so! Looking at the
traces, everything seems ok. We're moving it along at 1514 chunks.
 

Well since no one has taken me on, I'm going to reply to myself. :) I have 
found a potential clue. I just did a samba mount to my xp box from the linux 
box. Transfers FLY! I can transfer 650MB in 2 minutes flat. Take that same 
bunch of files from Xp to linux via samba and it will take ?? I stopped 
timing after 20 minutes. ??? 

Anybody have any clues? I did find something about disabling a web service, 
but it made no difference. At least I have a work around for now. 

   

IIRC, there are some registry settings in XP that affect this.  MS, in an 
effort to break Samba I'm sure, introduced some registry settings which check 
for things like remote task execution and stuff on the remote server, 
assuming it is a windows machine.  I do not recall where specifically I found 
the info, and I recall a thread about similar problems on win2k not to long 
ago somewhere.  Not sure if it was on this list though.  With these 
additional clues though, you probably could come up with something on Google.

I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using Samba.  
I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not received 
any answers resolving the issue.

When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000 box 
it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to 
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around 1/3 
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected behavior?

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-01 Thread James Sparenberg

On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 11:16, lorne wrote:
> On Sunday 31 August 2003 09:38 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > On Monday 01 September 2003 12:09 am, lorne wrote:
> > > On Sunday 24 August 2003 10:07 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > I've done some searching and haven't found any previous traffic on this
> > > > exactly. I have two problems. I'm beginning to think they may be
> > > > related:
> > > >
> > > > Copying files from my XP system to my 9.1 samba server is HORRIBLE! Say
> >
> > I'm
> >
> > > > copying 650mb of Wav files. We're talking an hour or so! Looking at the
> > > > traces, everything seems ok. We're moving it along at 1514 chunks.
> > >
> > > Well since no one has taken me on, I'm going to reply to myself. :) I
> > > have found a potential clue. I just did a samba mount to my xp box from
> > > the linux box. Transfers FLY! I can transfer 650MB in 2 minutes flat.
> > > Take that same bunch of files from Xp to linux via samba and it will take
> > > ?? I stopped timing after 20 minutes. ???
> > >
> > > Anybody have any clues? I did find something about disabling a web
> > > service, but it made no difference. At least I have a work around for
> > > now.
> >
> > IIRC, there are some registry settings in XP that affect this.  MS, in an
> > effort to break Samba I'm sure, introduced some registry settings which
> > check for things like remote task execution and stuff on the remote server,
> > assuming it is a windows machine.  I do not recall where specifically I
> > found the info, and I recall a thread about similar problems on win2k not
> > to long ago somewhere.  Not sure if it was on this list though.  With these
> > additional clues though, you probably could come up with something on
> > Google.
> 
> Damnit! I KNEW IT! I have been telling the suckers at work now for a couple of 
> months "I bet you anything Uncle Billie and his gang of thieves, has done 
> something to purposely break it"!! They all were saying nah I KNEW IT! 
> I'll go look again. There has GOT to be a way to turn off what ever it is 
> that XP is looking for. Unfortunately it isn't something obvious. I did a 
> trace and it just doesn't jump out at me. It must be something in XP itself. 
> Maybe I need to try a regmon or filemon on the xp box to see what it is doing 
> internally. First I believe I'm going to google again and see if I find 
> something that works. If so, I'll post here. 
> 
> 
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Well,  guess what  try XP + Samba + slow...


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=XP+%2B+Samba+%2B+slow&btnG=Google+Search

returns quite a number of hits.  Seems if nothing else you aren't
alone.  Then just for fun I tried

XP + Samba Microsoft changes

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=XP+%2B+Samba+Microsoft+changes&spell=1

Seems that if nothing else you aren't alone.  


James

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

On Sunday 31 August 2003 09:38 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Monday 01 September 2003 12:09 am, lorne wrote:
> > On Sunday 24 August 2003 10:07 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > I've done some searching and haven't found any previous traffic on this
> > > exactly. I have two problems. I'm beginning to think they may be
> > > related:
> > >
> > > Copying files from my XP system to my 9.1 samba server is HORRIBLE! Say
>
> I'm
>
> > > copying 650mb of Wav files. We're talking an hour or so! Looking at the
> > > traces, everything seems ok. We're moving it along at 1514 chunks.
> >
> > Well since no one has taken me on, I'm going to reply to myself. :) I
> > have found a potential clue. I just did a samba mount to my xp box from
> > the linux box. Transfers FLY! I can transfer 650MB in 2 minutes flat.
> > Take that same bunch of files from Xp to linux via samba and it will take
> > ?? I stopped timing after 20 minutes. ???
> >
> > Anybody have any clues? I did find something about disabling a web
> > service, but it made no difference. At least I have a work around for
> > now.
>
> IIRC, there are some registry settings in XP that affect this.  MS, in an
> effort to break Samba I'm sure, introduced some registry settings which
> check for things like remote task execution and stuff on the remote server,
> assuming it is a windows machine.  I do not recall where specifically I
> found the info, and I recall a thread about similar problems on win2k not
> to long ago somewhere.  Not sure if it was on this list though.  With these
> additional clues though, you probably could come up with something on
> Google.

Damnit! I KNEW IT! I have been telling the suckers at work now for a couple of 
months "I bet you anything Uncle Billie and his gang of thieves, has done 
something to purposely break it"!! They all were saying nah I KNEW IT! 
I'll go look again. There has GOT to be a way to turn off what ever it is 
that XP is looking for. Unfortunately it isn't something obvious. I did a 
trace and it just doesn't jump out at me. It must be something in XP itself. 
Maybe I need to try a regmon or filemon on the xp box to see what it is doing 
internally. First I believe I'm going to google again and see if I find 
something that works. If so, I'll post here. 

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-01 Thread Greg Meyer

On Monday 01 September 2003 12:09 am, lorne wrote:
> On Sunday 24 August 2003 10:07 pm, lorne wrote:
> > I've done some searching and haven't found any previous traffic on this
> > exactly. I have two problems. I'm beginning to think they may be related:
> >
> > Copying files from my XP system to my 9.1 samba server is HORRIBLE! Say 
I'm
> > copying 650mb of Wav files. We're talking an hour or so! Looking at the
> > traces, everything seems ok. We're moving it along at 1514 chunks.
> >
> Well since no one has taken me on, I'm going to reply to myself. :) I have 
> found a potential clue. I just did a samba mount to my xp box from the linux 
> box. Transfers FLY! I can transfer 650MB in 2 minutes flat. Take that same 
> bunch of files from Xp to linux via samba and it will take ?? I stopped 
> timing after 20 minutes. ??? 
> 
> Anybody have any clues? I did find something about disabling a web service, 
> but it made no difference. At least I have a work around for now. 
> 
IIRC, there are some registry settings in XP that affect this.  MS, in an 
effort to break Samba I'm sure, introduced some registry settings which check 
for things like remote task execution and stuff on the remote server, 
assuming it is a windows machine.  I do not recall where specifically I found 
the info, and I recall a thread about similar problems on win2k not to long 
ago somewhere.  Not sure if it was on this list though.  With these 
additional clues though, you probably could come up with something on Google.
-- 
/g

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`