[FairfieldLife] Re: 8 Million Palestine Reugees do not exist....?
You mis-read my post. I was referring to the original invasion by Joshua back around 1400 BC. As you point out, the more recent "invasion" is far more complicated, although better weapons and strategy also play a considerable role in who wins the ongoing disputes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the *JEWS* bought most of the land from > > absentie lanlords (Arabs), it was nothing but barren. The JEWS made > > it what it is todayisn't that reason enough? (Plus having been > there since the beginning of time). > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My answer was > > quite serious. Anyone who thinks that God had more to do > > with the initial Jewish invasion of the "Promised Land" than the > > better weapons and strategy employed by the Jewish people > > when they arrived is not thinking rationally. > > > > They [Jews in Israel] invaded a land that was already occupied and > > quite productive and killed or enslaved pretty much everyone > > there. Because "God gave it" to them? > > Well, you both can't be right! :) As usual, its a bit more complex and > nuanced. Some additional and contracting views, plus a bit of history. > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/01/02/MN70515.DTL > Compensation for Palestinians has long been a thorn in > Israeli-Palestinian relations. In 1948, from 430,000 to 650,000 > Palestinians left or were forced to flee their homes inside what was > known as 'the Green Line,' or present-day Israel minus the West Bank > and Gaza. > > Palestinians insist that any final settlement with Israel include a > 'right of return' for the now 3.5 million refugees and their > descendants, in accordance with U.N. General Assembly resolution 194, > which also mandated compensation for those not wishing to go home. > They estimate the compensation bill at $550 billion. > > Israel, which has no intention of altering its demographic balance > between Arabs and Jews, has long insisted that it has no moral or > legal responsibility to allow Palestinians to return to their old > towns and villages. It argues that most refugees left of their own > accord or at the behest of Arab leaders. > > Suggested Israeli solutions have included starting a compensation fund > and allowing small numbers of Palestinians to reunify with their > families. Last year, former Prime Minister Ehud Barak set limits on > how many Palestinians could return to areas within Israel proper. > > But unlike the vast majority of Jews who fled their homes and > prospered in Israel, most Palestinians ended up in poverty in Arab > lands. Israel charges those nations with cynically manipulating the > refugees for a wider political agenda. > > 'In a time of peace, Israel will be ready to take part in the effort > to heal the wounds of war out of goodwill, friendship and good > neighborliness -- and under no circumstances out of feelings of guilt > or responsibility for causing the conflict,' Barak told Parliament > last year. > > > http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/refugees.html > The Palestinians left their homes in 1947-48 for a variety of reasons. > Thousands of wealthy Arabs left in anticipation of a war, thousands > more responded to Arab leaders' calls to get out of the way of the > advancing armies, a handful were expelled, but most simply fled to > avoid being caught in the cross fire of a battle. Had the Arabs > accepted the 1947 UN resolution, not a single Palestinian would have > become a refugee and an independent Arab state would now exist beside > Israel. > > The beginning of the Arab exodus can be traced to the weeks > immediately following the announcement of the UN partition resolution. > The first to leave were roughly 30,000 wealthy Arabs who anticipated > the upcoming war and fled to neighboring Arab countries to await its > end. Less affluent Arabs from the mixed cities of Palestine moved to > all-Arab towns to stay with relatives or friends. > > All of those who left fully anticipated being able to return to their > homes after an early Arab victory, as Palestinian nationalist Aref > el-Aref explained in his history of the 1948 war: > > The Arabs thought they would win in less than the twinkling of an > eye and that it would take no more than a day or two from the time the > Arab armies crossed the border until all the colonies were conquered > and the enemy would throw down his arms and cast himself on their mercy. > > By the end of January1948, the exodus was so alarming the Palestine > Arab Higher Committee asked neighboring Arab countries to refuse visas > to these refugees and to seal the borders against them. > > Meanwhile, Jewish leaders urged the Arabs to remain in Palestine and > become citizens of Israel. The Assembly of Palestine Jewry issued this > appeal on Octobe
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestine people do not exist....
Of course weapons matter. Like it or not, technology and its spin-off in weaponry very much determines who lives well, who lives poorly and who dies in today's world, as it has for thousands of years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --It seems that weapons do matter; > Why is it that Iran and North Korea are pursuing nukes? > And the U.S. cannot let that happen? > > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Your claim is easy to make, and there is a very ancient tradition > > surrounding this process. Just show up with much more lethal > > weaponery than the current inhabitants have, and the land is all > > yours. > > > > Didn't you know that God traditionally grants people land in > > this manner? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > Right, so why can't Israel exist peacefully > in 'Palestine'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beats me, though I don't think the 'we were here first' > > > > argument works well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Probably because the Israeli state was created by the > British > > > > from seized Arab land in the late 40's, in order to weaken the > Arab > > > > > > > nationalist movement. No one ever goes for that stuff, > and > > > > there has been war there ever since. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you are mistaken, the *JEWS* bought most of the > land > > > > from > > > > > > absentie lanlords (Arabs), it was nothing but barren. The > JEWS > > > > made > > > > > > it > > > > > > what it is todayisn't that reason enough? (Plus having > been > > > > there > > > > > > since the beginning of time). > > > > > > > > > > Is that the 6000 year old "beginning of time" per the Old > Testement > > > > > (as interpreted by some) or the 20 million years > ago "beginning of > > > > > time" that the progenitors of all current humanity migrated > out of > > > > > Ethiopia, or the 6 billion? years beginning of time when the > earth > > > > was > > > > > created, ot the 20? billions years ago "beginning of time" > since > > > > the > > > > > big bang? > > > > > > > > I have read that 80 to 90 percent of Israel's population is > > > > Ashkenazi, who are thought to be caucasoid descendants of the > > > > eastern-European Khazars, who never lived in the Near- or > Middle- > > > > East, and who converted to Judaism as late as the 7th or 8th > century > > > > CE. Only the remaining 10 to 20 percent are Sephardic, who > actually > > > > *did* originate in or near the region now known as Israel, and > who > > > > (I have read) are currently treated as distinctly second-class > > > > citizens in Israel. > > > > > > Cultural / religious claims of owning and having eternal rights > to a > > > portion of the earth based on where ones ancestors lived, > (sometimes a > > > dubious claims, as illustrated above), seems a rather odd > argument. My > > > ancestors owned a lot of land in Ireland, just ouside Dublin. > Can I > > > claim it? Others owned lots of land in what are now (not then) > ritzy > > > resort areas. Can I claim several acres of prime real estate > there? I > > > would be an instant billionaire. Help me out here, because I > would > > > love to make these claims. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hhfc0em/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123667368/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
Jagger mauls Bush (Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM) The Rolling Stones accuse President George W Bush of being "full of sh*t" on their new album, it has emerged."Sweet Neo Con", one of the tracks on the band's forthcoming LP "A Bigger Bang", is known to be fiercely anti-Bush.However, the full force of the lyrics and Mick Jagger's disdain for the American leader has now been confirmed, with The Stones singer revealing the lyrics in a new interview.An extract from "Sweet Neo Con" features the following lines: "You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite/You call yourself a patriot, well I think you're full of sh*t." Speaking to Newsweek, Jagger explained the background to the track. "It is direct. Keith said (adopting Richards' voice), 'It's not really metaphorical.' "I think he's a bit worried because he lives in the U.S. But I don't," commented Sir Mick."A Bigger Bang" is released on September 5 and is preceded by the single, "Streets Of Love" on August 22. The band begin their forthcoming world tour in Boston on August 21. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palestine people do not exist....
On Aug 9, 2005, at 10:13 PM, Rory Goff wrote: > Only the remaining 10 to 20 percent are Sephardic, who actually > *did* originate in or near the region now known as Israel, and who > (I have read) are currently treated as distinctly second-class > citizens in Israel. Well Sephardim are *Spanish* Jews. Since the diaspora in Spain occurred in 1492, I would bet many of these are from that dispersion, esp. since many then found refuge in Italy, Sicily and Turkey. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hht032s/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123679391/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unity and sidhis
On Aug 9, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > You mean he's given up trying to screw every woman on the planet, while > smoking both pot and tobacco regularly, popping Viagra like candy, > drinking, > watching x-rated movies, etc.? (I got all this from someone who had > been > with him 17 years and left because Adi Da was screwing his wife.) “This is the Kali Yuga, Even Rakshashas (demons) will incarnate as teachers to mislead you. Those who must be destroyed by these demons will be. Test the Guru by the teaching: without inquiry there is no teaching. Shun every teacher who does not teach inquiry. Directly looking at your own face is the only teaching. If the Guru says 'I am enlightened,' it means the ego is enlightened so stay away. Western teachers who say this are preachers so stay away and only write books to load more garbage on seekers, and more money in their pockets. They will attract so many students, but in Kali Yuga it is the falsehood which will draw the crowds. The Truth and the true Gurus will be neglected. If there is a teacher and a student for more than one second then both of them go to avachi hell!” -Papaji Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h84b41u/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123679821/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CONJUNCTION OF JUPITER & KETU - USA
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jim_flanegin" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > anonymousff > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > No, he's stupid and smells like poo-poo? > > > > > > > > > > > > See the effects of the conjunction? A > normally intelligent > > > member > > > > > of > > > > > > FFL is reduced to the mutterings of a > 2-year old. > > > > > > > > > > I disagree. You sound very much like a > precocious 10-year > old. > > > > > > > > Disagreement has its roots in duality. > > > > > > I disagree. Disagreement has its roots in > discrimination and > > > personal preference. Duality has nothing to do > with it. > > > > And thus, per your view, in Wholeness, what > disagrees with what? > > In Wholeness, I disagreed with you. > > > > But you are right. Duality has nothing to do with > IT. > > > > > > > > The world is as we are. If one > > > > sees precociousness, they must be dwelling in > precociousness. > > > > > > > In the above expression, I was simple > acknowledging the > Perfection > > > > that Peter and Poo were one. Your wholeness is limited. It is not "Poo", but "Poo-poo". Two fullness's. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h6vhqr0/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123681318/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, anonymousff wrote: > http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/yoga.html > > > > That would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h50dd2q/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123682952/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, anonymousff wrote: > > > http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/yoga.html > > That would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary. You think *that's* scary--have a look at this: http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/ Oh, and did you know that the word "gullible" has been removed from the dictionary? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hikibvl/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123683728/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
on 8/10/05 7:11 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, anonymousff wrote: > >> http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/yoga.html > > That would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary. I think that whole site is a spoof. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h504k51/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123684215/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:21 AM, authfriend wrote: > Oh, and did you know that the word "gullible" > has been removed from the dictionary? What's this world coming to! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hvd8ivp/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123684223/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Thru and thru" dilettante analysis of RV I 164, 39 ; part 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> /Rco akSare/ is the 39. verse of the famous
> /asya-vaamasya -suukta/ of Rgveda. The RSi of that suukta
> is /Diirgha-tamas/(?long lasting darkness,
> because he was blind). That verse goes like this:
>
> R`co a`kShare' para`me vyoma`n yasmi'n de`vaa adhi` vishve'
niShe`duH |
> yas tan na veda` kim R`caa ka'riShyati` ya it tad vi`dus ta i`me
sam
> aa'sate || EN{1}{164}{39}
>
> The first word is the nominative plural form of the word /Rk/. In
> front of a vowel or a voiced consonant that changes to /Rg/, as
> in /Rg-veda/. The form /Rco/ is sandhi for /RcaH/ that's the
> nominative plural in pausa (when a pause follows and sandhi is
> inoperative, or stuff). '-aH' in front of a short 'a' or
> a voiced consonant changes to '-o'. -- In dictionaries that
> word appears in the form /Rc/ (not in the "basic" nominative
singular
> form /Rk/):
>
> Capeller's Sanskrit-English Dictionary
>
> 1 Rc 2 f. lustre, beam; hymn, verse; the Rigveda (mostly pl.).
Well, /akSare/ is the locative singular form of the noun /akSara(m)/
Here are some meanings of this adjective/noun:
1 akSara mfn. imperishable ; unalterable ; m. a sword L. ; S3iva L. ;
Vishn2u L. ; (%{A}) f. see %{a4kSarA} below ; (%{am}) n. a syllable ;
the syllable %{om} Mn. ; a letter [m. Ra1matUp.] ; a vowel ; a
sound ; a word ; N. of Brahma ; final beatitude religious austerity ,
sacrifice L. ; water RV. i , 34 , 4 and i , 164 , 42 [3,3] ;
Achyranthes Aspera.
Now, /akSaram/ is prolly first of all a negative(?) adjective:
'un-alterable', 'im-perishable'. The syntactical structure
formed by the first words seems to be slightly interesting:
if 'akSare' is considered an adjective, it seems to act as an
attribute to 'vyoman'.
(at·trib·ute
n.
7. Gram. a word or phrase that is syntactically subordinate to
another and serves to limit, identify, particularize, describe, or
supplement the meaning of the form with which it is in construction.
In the red house, red is an attribute of house.)
OTOH, if it is considered a noun, it might perchance be called an
apposition (for 'parame vyoman') or then again, perhaps not.
(ap·po·si·tion (apÅÃ zishÆÃn), n.
3. Gram. a syntactic relation between expressions, usually
consecutive, that have the same function and the same relation to
other elements in the sentence, the second expression identifying or
supplementing the first. In Washington, our first president, the
phrase our first president is in apposition with Washington.)
It seems to us "most" translators treat 'akSare' as a noun, in which
case the primary meaning of 'Rco akSare' could be 'Rk´s (exist) in
akSara'. Butt... it seems to be possible to treat 'akSara' also as
a "genuine" (tatpuruSa-type?) compound noun, in which case 'akSara'
could be thought to mean 'kSara of (the sound) ´a´'. In this case
perhaps some other verb would be suitable, instead of 'exist'... :0
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:29 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > I think that whole site is a spoof. It is, but still damn accurate. Take it from someone who occasionally talks to X-tian fundies. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hbqt3tk/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123684372/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Thru and thru" dilettante analysis of RV I 164, 39 ; part 1
On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:29 AM, cardemaister wrote:
> Well, /akSare/ is the locative singular form of the noun /akSara(m)/
> Here are some meanings of this adjective/noun:
>
> 1 akSara mfn. imperishable ; unalterable ; m. a sword L. ; S3iva L. ;
> Vishn2u L. ; (%{A}) f. see %{a4kSarA} below ; (%{am}) n. a syllable ;
> the syllable %{om} Mn. ; a letter [m. Ra1matUp.] ; a vowel ; a
> sound ; a word ; N. of Brahma ; final beatitude religious austerity ,
> sacrifice L. ; water RV. i , 34 , 4 and i , 164 , 42 [3,3] ;
> Achyranthes Aspera.
>
> Now, /akSaram/ is prolly first of all a negative(?) adjective:
> 'un-alterable', 'im-perishable'. The syntactical structure
> formed by the first words seems to be slightly interesting:
> if 'akSare' is considered an adjective, it seems to act as an
> attribute to 'vyoman'.
It also means the "kSara of "a"--the collapse of primordial fullness
symbolized by the sound "a". It is also alluding to all that emerges
from "a"--i.e. the entire sequence of sounds which make up creation.
Compare with "akula". akSara is a technical term in Samkhya.
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[FairfieldLife] TM and Christianity: PBS feature
Dear friends, I apologize for the long delay in responding to your postings about the PBS feature. Where to start? I don't want this to be a theological discussion. What we are talking about is grounded in experience and relationship; it is my experience of relationship with Christ. Still, that experience has been based on my understanding of who Christ is, who I am and what the nature of our relationship can be. So what about TM would prevent me from accepting Jesus as my one and only Savior? Two things: For one the teaching that my spiritual situation is one of ignorance, not of sin. There is no concept of a savior or of salvation in the Vedic teachings, because there is no concept of sin, nothing one needs to be saved from. There is a place for a teacher in this, but no place for a Savior. Jesus Christ declared Himself to be the Savior and eternal Judge of the world. He declared that there was no way to God except Him, that He was the eternal I AM, Jehovah. So, He is either God, as He said and as many witnesses testified, or He was insane, or He was Satan. If what He said was not true, He was either out of His mind (and this is what the religious Jews said), or He knowingly led millions and millions of people into spiritual deception, a satanic undertaking. No founder of any religion that I am aware of ever made the claims that He made, neither did any perform the miracles that He did, neither did any extend healing and forgiveness freely to everyone who asked for it. What then did Christ save me from, what was my sin? I could come up with many instances of sinful behavior in my life, and would still miss the point. My sin is my state of separation from God, my spiritual pride and self-centeredness, my attempt to usurp the place of God and exalt myself to be the ruler. Does not that sound familiar, to those of us who have been promised to become the masters of natural law? And is not this the core of Satan's lie to man, that he can become like God? So, what evidence is there for one side or the other? I must confess that I cannot find much if any empirical evidence for the divine and universal nature of unredeemed man, but overwhelming evidence for his evil nature. And I can also report that I am seeing in myself and others the great cleansing and healing power of Christ, as I am yielding myself to His Lordship over my live. An intimately personal working of Christ in me, an ongoing transformation in my heart that only God can do. This then brings us to the second point of separation: the spiritual practice. The Christian spiritual practice is a matter of the will: the will to submit to the Lordship of Christ and His working in me. This is an ongoing commitment that I need to renew daily in freedom, as my relationship with Christ expands and as His nature overtakes more and more of my mind, will and emotions. So, no technique is required. Rather, techniques have to be excluded as being a means to assert self-rule over the rule of Christ. The Christian "techniques" of quiet prayer, that are often mentioned, are not techniques at all, but are modes of communion with Christ. It matters with whom you commune and in what spirit, not what you say and how often. To answer sparaig's question: No, TM doesn't prevent God from making a connection. God is making connections all the time, to every human being. But it does prevent the individual from receiving the fullness of it. God respects your free will, and He never imposes Himself on you. The choice is yours, communion with your Savior and Lord, or assertion of self. So much for now. Sincerely Kai Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hockl28/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123688170/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and Christianity: PBS feature
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kjdruhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Jesus Christ declared Himself to be the Savior and eternal Judge of > the world. He declared that there was no way to God except Him, that > He was the eternal I AM, Jehovah. [snip] And is it therefore your position that unless a human being accepts Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior that he/she will, after death, rot in hell for all eternity? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hl1rv6g/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123690443/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Thru and thru" dilettante analysis of RV I 164, 39 ; part 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Compare with "akula". akSara is a technical term in Samkhya. Really? Do you happen to remember in which suutra or suutras? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hdmu8ba/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123690579/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better than anyone else's. It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All people can really say about the spiritual path they adopt is, "It works for me," and I wish they would leave it at that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kjdruhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends, > > I apologize for the long delay in responding to your postings about > the PBS feature. Where to start? I don't want this to be a > theological discussion. What we are talking about is grounded in > experience and relationship; it is my experience of relationship > with Christ. Still, that experience has been based on my > understanding of who Christ is, who I am and what the nature of our > relationship can be. > > So what about TM would prevent me from accepting Jesus as my one and > only Savior? Two things: For one the teaching that my spiritual > situation is one of ignorance, not of sin. There is no concept of a > savior or of salvation in the Vedic teachings, because there is no > concept of sin, nothing one needs to be saved from. There is a place > for a teacher in this, but no place for a Savior. > > Jesus Christ declared Himself to be the Savior and eternal Judge of > the world. He declared that there was no way to God except Him, that > He was the eternal I AM, Jehovah. So, He is either God, as He said > and as many witnesses testified, or He was insane, or He was Satan. > If what He said was not true, He was either out of His mind (and > this is what the religious Jews said), or He knowingly led millions > and millions of people into spiritual deception, a satanic > undertaking. No founder of any religion that I am aware of ever made > the claims that He made, neither did any perform the miracles that > He did, neither did any extend healing and forgiveness freely to > everyone who asked for it. > > What then did Christ save me from, what was my sin? I could come up > with many instances of sinful behavior in my life, and would still > miss the point. My sin is my state of separation from God, my > spiritual pride and self-centeredness, my attempt to usurp the place > of God and exalt myself to be the ruler. Does not that sound > familiar, to those of us who have been promised to become the > masters of natural law? And is not this the core of Satan's lie to > man, that he can become like God? > > So, what evidence is there for one side or the other? I must confess > that I cannot find much if any empirical evidence for the divine and > universal nature of unredeemed man, but overwhelming evidence for > his evil nature. And I can also report that I am seeing in myself > and others the great cleansing and healing power of Christ, as I am > yielding myself to His Lordship over my live. An intimately personal > working of Christ in me, an ongoing transformation in my heart that > only God can do. > > This then brings us to the second point of separation: the spiritual > practice. The Christian spiritual practice is a matter of the will: > the will to submit to the Lordship of Christ and His working in me. > This is an ongoing commitment that I need to renew daily in freedom, > as my relationship with Christ expands and as His nature overtakes > more and more of my mind, will and emotions. So, no technique is > required. Rather, techniques have to be excluded as being a means to > assert self-rule over the rule of Christ. > > The Christian "techniques" of quiet prayer, that are often > mentioned, are not techniques at all, but are modes of communion > with Christ. It matters with whom you commune and in what spirit, > not what you say and how often. > > To answer sparaig's question: No, TM doesn't prevent God from making > a connection. God is making connections all the time, to every human > being. But it does prevent the individual from receiving the > fullness of it. God respects your free will, and He never imposes > Himself on you. The choice is yours, communion with your Savior and > Lord, or assertion of self. > > So much for now. > > Sincerely > > Kai Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hk3qrdl/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123690832/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kjdruhl" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > Jesus Christ declared Himself to be the Savior and > eternal Judge of > > the world. He declared that there was no way to > God except Him, that > > He was the eternal I AM, Jehovah. > > > [snip] > > > And is it therefore your position that unless a > human being accepts > Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior that > he/she will, after > death, rot in hell for all eternity? No, burn like extra crispy chicken! > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hl1rv6g/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123690443/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get > fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hemruhe/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123690946/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
Pretty hilarious site. Good spoof of the "limited" mentality of many fundamentalists. --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/yoga.html > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hjomhhp/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123682523/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get > fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hgarg7o/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123691001/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CONJUNCTION OF JUPITER & KETU - USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > anonymousff > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "jim_flanegin" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > anonymousff > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > Peter > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > No, he's stupid and smells like poo-poo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the effects of the conjunction? A > > normally intelligent > > > > member > > > > > > of > > > > > > > FFL is reduced to the mutterings of a > > 2-year old. > > > > > > > > > > > > I disagree. You sound very much like a > > precocious 10-year > > old. > > > > > > > > > > Disagreement has its roots in duality. > > > > > > > > I disagree. Disagreement has its roots in > > discrimination and > > > > personal preference. Duality has nothing to do > > with it. > > > > > > And thus, per your view, in Wholeness, what > > disagrees with what? > > > > In Wholeness, I disagreed with you. > > > > > > But you are right. Duality has nothing to do with > > IT. > > > > > > > > > > > The world is as we are. If one > > > > > sees precociousness, they must be dwelling in > > precociousness. > > > > > > > > > In the above expression, I was simple > > acknowledging the > > Perfection > > > > > that Peter and Poo were one. > > Your wholeness is limited. It is not "Poo", but > "Poo-poo". Two fullness's. Yes, its beautiful. I am the emptiness of Poo. You are the fullness of Poo. Its all so Perfect. Wholeness is so Perfect. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hemrib5/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123691391/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8 Million Palestine Reugees do not exist....?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mis-read my post. I was referring to the original invasion > by Joshua back around 1400 BC. Ah, point noted. > > As you point out, the more recent "invasion" is far more complicated, > although better weapons and strategy also play a considerable > role in who wins the ongoing disputes. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > the *JEWS* bought most of the land from > > > absentie lanlords (Arabs), it was nothing but barren. The JEWS made > > > it what it is todayisn't that reason enough? (Plus having been > > there since the beginning of time). > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My answer was > > > quite serious. Anyone who thinks that God had more to do > > > with the initial Jewish invasion of the "Promised Land" than the > > > better weapons and strategy employed by the Jewish people > > > when they arrived is not thinking rationally. > > > > > > They [Jews in Israel] invaded a land that was already occupied and > > > quite productive and killed or enslaved pretty much everyone > > > there. Because "God gave it" to them? > > > > Well, you both can't be right! :) As usual, its a bit more complex and > > nuanced. Some additional and contracting views, plus a bit of history. > > > > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/01/02/MN70515.DTL > > Compensation for Palestinians has long been a thorn in > > Israeli-Palestinian relations. In 1948, from 430,000 to 650,000 > > Palestinians left or were forced to flee their homes inside what was > > known as 'the Green Line,' or present-day Israel minus the West Bank > > and Gaza. > > > > Palestinians insist that any final settlement with Israel include a > > 'right of return' for the now 3.5 million refugees and their > > descendants, in accordance with U.N. General Assembly resolution 194, > > which also mandated compensation for those not wishing to go home. > > They estimate the compensation bill at $550 billion. > > > > Israel, which has no intention of altering its demographic balance > > between Arabs and Jews, has long insisted that it has no moral or > > legal responsibility to allow Palestinians to return to their old > > towns and villages. It argues that most refugees left of their own > > accord or at the behest of Arab leaders. > > > > Suggested Israeli solutions have included starting a compensation fund > > and allowing small numbers of Palestinians to reunify with their > > families. Last year, former Prime Minister Ehud Barak set limits on > > how many Palestinians could return to areas within Israel proper. > > > > But unlike the vast majority of Jews who fled their homes and > > prospered in Israel, most Palestinians ended up in poverty in Arab > > lands. Israel charges those nations with cynically manipulating the > > refugees for a wider political agenda. > > > > 'In a time of peace, Israel will be ready to take part in the effort > > to heal the wounds of war out of goodwill, friendship and good > > neighborliness -- and under no circumstances out of feelings of guilt > > or responsibility for causing the conflict,' Barak told Parliament > > last year. > > > > > > http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/refugees.html > > The Palestinians left their homes in 1947-48 for a variety of reasons. > > Thousands of wealthy Arabs left in anticipation of a war, thousands > > more responded to Arab leaders' calls to get out of the way of the > > advancing armies, a handful were expelled, but most simply fled to > > avoid being caught in the cross fire of a battle. Had the Arabs > > accepted the 1947 UN resolution, not a single Palestinian would have > > become a refugee and an independent Arab state would now exist beside > > Israel. > > > > The beginning of the Arab exodus can be traced to the weeks > > immediately following the announcement of the UN partition resolution. > > The first to leave were roughly 30,000 wealthy Arabs who anticipated > > the upcoming war and fled to neighboring Arab countries to await its > > end. Less affluent Arabs from the mixed cities of Palestine moved to > > all-Arab towns to stay with relatives or friends. > > > > All of those who left fully anticipated being able to return to their > > homes after an early Arab victory, as Palestinian nationalist Aref > > el-Aref explained in his history of the 1948 war: > > > > The Arabs thought they would win in less than the twinkling of an > > eye and that it would take no more than a day or two from the time the > > Arab armies crossed the border until all the colonies were conquered > > and the enemy would throw down his arms and cast himself on their mercy. > > > > By the end of January1948, the exodus was so alarming the Palestine > > Arab Higher
[FairfieldLife] Tsunami Video on FPAC
The local public access TV station (FPAC - Channel 9) will air the video about Amma's tsunami relief efforts, entitled "Pray and Serve," this coming Thursday evening, (8/11) at 9:30pm. The video is about 45 minutes long. This is the one that was played at the beginning of each of Amma's morning programs this summer. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hj9229c/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123692765/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CONJUNCTION OF JUPITER & KETU - USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > In the above expression, I was simple > > > acknowledging the > > > Perfection > > > > > > that Peter and Poo were one. > > > > Your wholeness is limited. It is not "Poo", but > > "Poo-poo". Two fullness's. > > Yes, its beautiful. > I am the emptiness of Poo. > You are the fullness of Poo. > Its all so Perfect. > Wholeness is so Perfect. PooNamida PooNamidam Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hauub11/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123692852/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
on 8/10/05 7:21 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, anonymousff wrote: >> >>> http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/yoga.html >> >> That would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary. > > You think *that's* scary--have a look at this: > > http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/ Also a spoof. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h44gtlr/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123693191/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Thru and thru" dilettante analysis of RV I 164, 39 ; part 1
On Aug 10, 2005, at 10:14 AM, cardemaister wrote: > Really? Do you happen to remember in which suutra or suutras? IIRC it was the tattva-samasa. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hsfm0rc/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123693737/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Saddam Hussein...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/8/05 5:36:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > In brief, the *reason* for killing greatly > >agravates or mitagates the karmayes? > > What would have been America's karma had it > sat back and knowingly let Hitler exterminate > Jews. Would it be worse than actively trying to > kill him in order to stop him? > > If the Americans did sit back, (which they didn't) finally they > intervened, however, had the Americans done nothing, yes I think the > complicity would have aggravated their karma and it would have been > far worse for them, karma wise. The Americans sat back and so did the British. We had cracked the Germans' code at Bletchley Park with Alan Turing's Enigma machine, and knew about their extermination programme. We could not find a way to act without allowing the Germans to deduce that the code was cracked. Us. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hrcqq7k/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123693902/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better > than anyone else's. Not just "a better way," but "the only way." > It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All people can really > say about the spiritual path they adopt is, "It works for me," and > I wish they would leave it at that. Trouble is, "the only way" is an integral part of the path; it's "what works" for them. Take that away, and it's no longer Christianity. (Whether it's what Jesus actually taught is another question entirely.) And unlikely as it may seem to some of us that it's "the only way," we don't *know* for sure whether it's true or not. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h1tqmqa/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123695011/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/10/05 7:21 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, anonymousff wrote: > >> > >>> http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/yoga.html > >> > >> That would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary. > > > > You think *that's* scary--have a look at this: > > > > http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/ > > Also a spoof. You don't say! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hnv4etb/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123695105/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jagger mauls Bush > (Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM) > > The Rolling Stones accuse President George W Bush of being > "full of sh*t" on their new album, it has emerged. That Mick, always strutting the obvious. :-) Really, good for Mick. Given the respective levels of personal power involved, I suspect that a showdown between Mick and Dubya would turn out pretty much like the confrontation between Turner and Chas in "Performance." There is much about Mr. Jagger to be apprec- iated, in the Tomwise sense of the word. He's 62, he looks better physically than he's looked for much of his life, and he's still got the energy to rock 'n roll. There are far less cool ways to pass an incarnation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hgjbuus/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123696358/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CONJUNCTION OF JUPITER & KETU - USA
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > In the above expression, I was simple > > > > acknowledging the > > > > Perfection > > > > > > > that Peter and Poo were one. > > > > > > Your wholeness is limited. It is not "Poo", but > > > "Poo-poo". Two fullness's. > > > > Yes, its beautiful. > > I am the emptiness of Poo. > > You are the fullness of Poo. > > Its all so Perfect. > > Wholeness is so Perfect. > > PooNamida PooNamidam Hopefully we have worked this out to its final iteration? > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hauub11/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123692852/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get > fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h6nl5eo/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123696632/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] House for Rent in Beautifull Colorado
Greetings from beautifull Fort Collins, Colorado where the sun shines 300 days a year and the winters are mild. Fort Collins sits nestled against the scenic Rocky foothills only a few minutes away by car where you will find rivers, lakes, and forests. I recently bought a house and have to leave my rental by the end of August. The rental is -- a nice three bedroom, two bath, two car garage, fully equipted kitchen, large entertainment room, big back yard--house that I'm willing to work out any reasonable rent you want to pay. (I'll make up the difference if it's below what I pay). This is an ideal home for those coming out to Colorado and want to check it out. We did and have decided that it's the best place we've found yet. So much so, that in four weeks, we've already bought a home. Let me know at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hm4hvi2/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123696660/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is > better than anyone else's. It gets very boring, and it is > untrue. And it drowns out the TMers saying the same thing. :-) > All people can really say about the spiritual path they > adopt is, "It works for me," and I wish they would leave > it at that. Amen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h1m9476/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123697105/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: CONJUNCTION OF JUPITER & KETU - USA
> > > In the above expression, I was simple > > > acknowledging the Perfection > > > that Peter and Poo were one. > > > > Your wholeness is limited. It is not "Poo", but > > "Poo-poo". Two fullness's. > > Yes, its beautiful. > I am the emptiness of Poo. > You are the fullness of Poo. > Its all so Perfect. > Wholeness is so Perfect. He who know the Tao of the honeypot Win he the Poo -- Lao tsu Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hvmbcof/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123697265/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Notable People Who Died of Lung Cancer By The Associated Press > > Tue Aug 9, 7:38 PM ET > > > > > > > > A select list of notable people who've died of lung cancer over the > > years: > > Be interesting to see that list correlated with smoking... Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for sure? And I'm looking for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h6i1d5o/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123697888/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is > > better than anyone else's. It gets very boring, and it is > > untrue. > > And it drowns out the TMers saying the same thing. :-) Although, of course, what TMers say is *about* their path, whereas what the Christians say *is* their path. But you knew that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hul5h01/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123698150/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Bouncing
I just noticed that 219 of FFL's 963 members are bouncing. I don't think that refers to the dome numbers. Thats over 20%. And only is applicable to those who receive emails. Which is a minority, maybe 20-30%. So 65-99% of email opters are "air" -- no longer existing accounts. I wonder if the same % is extrapable to archive readers. It would imply that only a very small % of the 963 members actually read any posts. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hhqiea7/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123698289/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Baseball Quotes
The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided. -Casey Stengel (This one really cracked me up) The trouble is not that players have sex the night before a game. It's that they stay out all night looking for it. -Casey Stengel (Rick - Any confirming rumors?) I never questioned the integrity of an umpire. Their eyesight, yes. -Leo Durocher (FFL?) It was Brooklyn against the world. They were not only complete fanatics, but they knew baseball like the fans of no other city. It was exciting to play there. It was a treat. I walked into that crummy, flyblown park as Brooklyn manager for nine years, and every time I entered, my pulse quickened and my spirits soared. -Leo Durocher (As a Brooklyn Dodger fan, I love this one) "I think there are only three things America will be known for 2,000 years from now when they study this civilization: the Constitution, jazz music, and baseball." -Gerald Early When I was a small boy growing up in Kansas, a friend of mine and I went fishing and as we sat there in the warmth of a summer afternoon on a riverbank we talked about what we wanted to do when we grew up. I told him that I wanted to be a real major-league baseball player, a genuine professional like Honus Wagner. My friend said that he'd like to be President of the United States. Neither of us got our wish. -Dwight D Eisenhower (Better had he gotten his wish?) Sweat plus sacrifice equals success. -Charlie Finley "Fans don't boo nobodies." -Reggie Jackson (Scientologists hope?) Baseball is a lot like life. The line drives are caught, the squibbles go for base hits. It's an unfair game. -Rod Kanehl (I can relate) Concentration is the ability to think about absolutely nothing when it is absolutely necessary. -Ray Knight (A new technique?) "All the fat guys watch me and say to their wives, 'See, there's a fat guy doing okay. Bring me another beer.'" -Mickey Lolich(Personal favorite) "You can learn little from victory. You can learn everything from defeat." -Christy Mathewson (Got plenty of reality here) "Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." -Satchel Paige (Butch & Sundance?) "Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." -Satchel Paige (That's what I call a stable datum) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hl83hbe/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123698302/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better > > than anyone else's. > > Not just "a better way," but "the only way." > > > It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All people can really > > say about the spiritual path they adopt is, "It works for me," and > > I wish they would leave it at that. > > Trouble is, "the only way" is an integral part > of the path; it's "what works" for them. Take > that away, and it's no longer Christianity. Well, it's no longer a simplistic and absolutist brand of Christianity that demands all shades of gray be dumbed down to black and white. However, not all denominations of Christianity make such demands. Some Christians can actually live with shades of gray and uncertainty and have no need to soothe themselves with a false certainty based on others being wrong. Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hjud7tu/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123698653/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Home for Rent in Colorado
Greetings from beautiful Fort Collins, Colorado where the sun shines 300 days a year and the winters are mild. Fort Collins sits nestled against the scenic Rocky foothills only a few minutes away by car where you will find rivers, lakes, and forests. I recently bought a house and have to leave my rental by the end of August. The rental is -- a nice three bedroom, two bath, two car garage, fully equipped kitchen, large entertainment room, big back yard--house that I'm willing to work out any reasonable rent you want to pay. (I'll make up the difference if it's below what I pay). This is an ideal home for those coming out to Colorado and want to check it out. We did and have decided that it's the best place we've found yet. So much so, that in four weeks, we've already bought a home. Let me know at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h7khcc5/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123699044/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
He's permanently drunk on power, sycophancy and lies. But it cannot go on forever. I sense that the legal, moral and political net is beginning to close around him. Can a trip to The Hague be far off? And when it comes, I think a 10-15 year sentence might be about right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for sure? And I'm looking for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hheaapu/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123699279/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Home for Rent in Colorado
You bought a 2nd house in Ft Collins already? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings from beautiful Fort Collins, Colorado where the sun shines > 300 days a year and the winters are mild. Fort Collins sits nestled > against the scenic Rocky foothills only a few minutes away by car > where you will find rivers, lakes, and forests. > > I recently bought a house and have to leave my rental by the end of > August. The rental is -- a nice three bedroom, two bath, two car > garage, fully equipped kitchen, large entertainment room, big back > yard--house that I'm willing to work out any reasonable rent you want > to pay. (I'll make up the difference if it's below what I pay). > > This is an ideal home for those coming out to Colorado and want to > check it out. We did and have decided that it's the best place we've > found yet. So much so, that in four weeks, we've already bought a > home. > > Let me know at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hllt6h3/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123699292/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga: A Religion for Sex Addicts
--What can you say? I can't imagine what Jesus would think of the bullshit that is claimed in his name? Perhaps: "They Know Not What They Do." - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pretty hilarious site. Good spoof of the "limited" > mentality of many fundamentalists. > > --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0303/yoga.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ~--> > > > > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hjomhhp/M=364397.6958316.7892810. 4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123682523/A=2915264/R=0 /SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.co m/r/hs">Get > > fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > > Yahoo! your home page > > > --- -~-> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h5717fa/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123699424/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. That's interesting. I did not know that. > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know > for sure? Back when Bush choked on a pretzel, there was much speculation that "Evil Dewars" was the cause. Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hkvff10/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123699442/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's permanently drunk on power, sycophancy and lies. But it cannot > go on > forever. I sense that the legal, moral and political net is beginning > to close > around him. Can a trip to The Hague be far off? And when it comes, I > think a > 10-15 year sentence might be about right. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for > sure? And > I'm looking for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. Good points all. Perhaps we will see a decent replacement, in every sense of the word...Can you imagine that? A President to be proud of. Boggles the imagination. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hfael6d/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123699519/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev in Russia
http://gurudev.nm.ru/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hjev2ou/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123699579/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. > > That's interesting. I did not know that. Yes, she was chain-smoking during the Repub Convention. > > > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know > > for sure? > > Back when Bush choked on a pretzel, there was much speculation that > "Evil Dewars" was the cause. Interesting. Thanks. > > Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hgp5260/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123699700/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is > > > better than anyone else's. It gets very boring, and it is > > > untrue. > > > > And it drowns out the TMers saying the same thing. :-) > > Although, of course, what TMers say is *about* their > path, whereas what the Christians say *is* their path. Excellent distinction. And many Christians believe that the only way to become one with God is to die physically. yow! Of course the main shortcoming with TM's teachings is that you can wallow in the seven states of conciousness forever without gaining enlightenment. I don't know if that is an actual shortcoming, or just an example of the expression, 'you can lead a TMer to Brahman, but you can't make him drink'. In other words, after Maherishi provides us the tools for experiencing the other 4 states of conciousness (tc, cc, gc, uc), how would he then tell us to go beyond them, to all inclusive Brahman? Any ideas anyone? > But you knew that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hrsek6f/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123700177/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--Jesus never said these things. His message is simply to radiate love and forgive. What happened to his teaching was that it was taken and used for personal religious and political power. When the Romans decided to make it a state religion, they used a paradigm which they were familiar with, and that is to make a person into a God. This was what Caesar believed he was, a god, and wanted to be worshiped as God. The main antaganism between the Jews and the followers of Jesus, and the Romans was that the Romans wanted everyone to recognise the Caesar of Rome, to be God, and they demonstated the 'power' of Rome and the power of Caesar, through intimidation and terror. Think of the mind of the Roman who would come up with the concept of crucifixion. What kind of mind thinks something like this up? Think of seeing thousands of your friends, hanging on wooden stakes, rotting in the sun, for what? To demonstrate the 'power of Rome. The most vulgar thing I can think of, is what people have done with Jesus' teaching, using his simple message, and crucifying him, over and over again. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kjdruhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > Jesus Christ declared Himself to be the Savior and eternal Judge of > > the world. He declared that there was no way to God except Him, that > > He was the eternal I AM, Jehovah. > > > [snip] > > > And is it therefore your position that unless a human being accepts > Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior that he/she will, after > death, rot in hell for all eternity? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hj5s6sv/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123700218/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better than > anyone > else's. It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All people can really > say about the > spiritual path they adopt is, "It works for me," and I wish they > would leave it at > that. I think it's more than just "boring"...I think it's the epitome of the very evil that they are trying to convince us we are on the side of for not accepting JC. Can you imagine the Son of God condemning 80% of humanity to burn in hell for all eternity because they don't ascribe to the perverted and twisted interpretation of a part of the Bible that was never meant to be used as a recruiting marketing ploy? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kjdruhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > I apologize for the long delay in responding to your postings about > > the PBS feature. Where to start? I don't want this to be a > > theological discussion. What we are talking about is grounded in > > experience and relationship; it is my experience of relationship > > with Christ. Still, that experience has been based on my > > understanding of who Christ is, who I am and what the nature of our > > relationship can be. > > > > So what about TM would prevent me from accepting Jesus as my one > and > > only Savior? Two things: For one the teaching that my spiritual > > situation is one of ignorance, not of sin. There is no concept of a > > savior or of salvation in the Vedic teachings, because there is no > > concept of sin, nothing one needs to be saved from. There is a > place > > for a teacher in this, but no place for a Savior. > > > > Jesus Christ declared Himself to be the Savior and eternal Judge of > > the world. He declared that there was no way to God except Him, > that > > He was the eternal I AM, Jehovah. So, He is either God, as He said > > and as many witnesses testified, or He was insane, or He was Satan. > > If what He said was not true, He was either out of His mind (and > > this is what the religious Jews said), or He knowingly led millions > > and millions of people into spiritual deception, a satanic > > undertaking. No founder of any religion that I am aware of ever > made > > the claims that He made, neither did any perform the miracles that > > He did, neither did any extend healing and forgiveness freely to > > everyone who asked for it. > > > > What then did Christ save me from, what was my sin? I could come up > > with many instances of sinful behavior in my life, and would still > > miss the point. My sin is my state of separation from God, my > > spiritual pride and self-centeredness, my attempt to usurp the > place > > of God and exalt myself to be the ruler. Does not that sound > > familiar, to those of us who have been promised to become the > > masters of natural law? And is not this the core of Satan's lie to > > man, that he can become like God? > > > > So, what evidence is there for one side or the other? I must > confess > > that I cannot find much if any empirical evidence for the divine > and > > universal nature of unredeemed man, but overwhelming evidence for > > his evil nature. And I can also report that I am seeing in myself > > and others the great cleansing and healing power of Christ, as I am > > yielding myself to His Lordship over my live. An intimately > personal > > working of Christ in me, an ongoing transformation in my heart that > > only God can do. > > > > This then brings us to the second point of separation: the > spiritual > > practice. The Christian spiritual practice is a matter of the will: > > the will to submit to the Lordship of Christ and His working in me. > > This is an ongoing commitment that I need to renew daily in > freedom, > > as my relationship with Christ expands and as His nature overtakes > > more and more of my mind, will and emotions. So, no technique is > > required. Rather, techniques have to be excluded as being a means > to > > assert self-rule over the rule of Christ. > > > > The Christian "techniques" of quiet prayer, that are often > > mentioned, are not techniques at all, but are modes of communion > > with Christ. It matters with whom you commune and in what spirit, > > not what you say and how often. > > > > To answer sparaig's question: No, TM doesn't prevent God from > making > > a connection. God is making connections all the time, to every > human > > being. But it does prevent the individual from receiving the > > fullness of it. God respects your free will, and He never imposes > > Himself on you. The choice is yours, communion with your Savior and > > Lord, or assertion of self. > > > > So much for now. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Kai Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h59pb92/M=364397.6958316.7892810.47
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better > > than anyone else's. > > Not just "a better way," but "the only way." > > > It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All people can really > > say about the spiritual path they adopt is, "It works for me," and > > I wish they would leave it at that. > > Trouble is, "the only way" is an integral part > of the path; it's "what works" for them. Take > that away, and it's no longer Christianity. > > (Whether it's what Jesus actually taught is > another question entirely.) Even if he said the actual quote in question, "I am the way" is an experience of consciousness that is to be read in the Bible to VERIFY that experience; it is NOT an instruction of the path to that experience. > > And unlikely as it may seem to some of us that > it's "the only way," we don't *know* for sure > whether it's true or not. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hkqmccn/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123700725/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
on 8/10/05 10:52 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Jagger mauls Bush >> (Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM) >> >> The Rolling Stones accuse President George W Bush of being >> "full of sh*t" on their new album, it has emerged. > > That Mick, always strutting the obvious. :-) > > Really, good for Mick. Given the respective > levels of personal power involved, I suspect > that a showdown between Mick and Dubya would > turn out pretty much like the confrontation > between Turner and Chas in "Performance." > > There is much about Mr. Jagger to be apprec- > iated, in the Tomwise sense of the word. He's > 62, he looks better physically than he's looked > for much of his life, and he's still got the > energy to rock 'n roll. There are far less cool > ways to pass an incarnation. Now Keith Richards, OTOH. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hbvd193/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123700986/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --Jesus never said these things. And how do you KNOW this? btw, does thinking this help bolster your own world view, makes you feel more comfortable with your own philosophy? If so, is there much doubt as to why you lash out at world view that contradict your own? Again, how would you know for certain what some man 2000 years ago, speaking a dead language, using idioms of the day -- of which al but the most arcane sholars are familiar, actually said? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hkcie09/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123701095/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> wrote:
> >
> > Jagger mauls Bush
> > (Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM)
> >
> > The Rolling Stones accuse President George W Bush of being
> > "full of sh*t" on their new album, it has emerged.
>
> That Mick, always strutting the obvious. :-)
>
> Really, good for Mick. Given the respective
> levels of personal power involved, I suspect
> that a showdown between Mick and Dubya would
> turn out pretty much like the confrontation
> between Turner and Chas in "Performance."
I wonder how many readers on this forum are aware of your reference
to "Performance" which I saw about 5 times when it came out when I
was about 15 years old. A pretty groovy movie, but as a 15 year-old
I went back again and again for the bath tub scenes in which Mick
suds up with the incredibly beautiful Anita Pallenberg (who later
married and had children with Keith Richards) and another lady.
The co-director of the movie (it was his first) was Nicolas Roeg
whom I did not appreciate at the time but who has since directed one
of my all-time favourite movies: "Bad Timing (A sensual obsession)"
starring Art Garfunkel, Theresa Russell (who Roeg married), and
Harvey Keitel. Just an incredible movie that I am constantly trying
to get a DVD copy of but they haven't released it yet in a format
compatible for US DVD's. I once sent away for a video copy on ebay
that was of very poor quality because it was a bootleg and I have
never bothered to see it in full because it hurts too much seeing a
version where the quality is so bad.
Roeg made three movies where he made had a Rock star in the starring
role: David Bowie ("Man who fell to Earth"), Art Garfunkel ("Bad
Timing"), and Jagger ("Performance")...kinda like that nutty but fun
director Ken Russel who made several movies in the '70s with Rock
Stars.
>
> There is much about Mr. Jagger to be apprec-
> iated, in the Tomwise sense of the word. He's
> 62, he looks better physically than he's looked
> for much of his life, and he's still got the
> energy to rock 'n roll. There are far less cool
> ways to pass an incarnation.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
We already had one of those, Jim. His name was Bill Clinton. He fought a valiant battle against the right-wing nutters and has never received much credit for it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He's permanently drunk on power, sycophancy and lies. But it cannot > > go on > > forever. I sense that the legal, moral and political net is beginning > > to close > > around him. Can a trip to The Hague be far off? And when it comes, I > > think a > > 10-15 year sentence might be about right. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for > > sure? And > > I'm looking for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. > > Good points all. Perhaps we will see a decent replacement, in every > sense of the word...Can you imagine that? A President to be proud of. > Boggles the imagination. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12heooakr/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123701266/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
-Mick seems to be the ultimate rock star, and has no shame about
anything, really,
He has claimed to be the most bedded person in the world, having
slept with over a thousand women.
It would be nice if we all could be so, guilt-free!
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jagger mauls Bush
> > > (Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM)
> > >
> > > The Rolling Stones accuse President George W Bush of being
> > > "full of sh*t" on their new album, it has emerged.
> >
> > That Mick, always strutting the obvious. :-)
> >
> > Really, good for Mick. Given the respective
> > levels of personal power involved, I suspect
> > that a showdown between Mick and Dubya would
> > turn out pretty much like the confrontation
> > between Turner and Chas in "Performance."
>
>
>
>
> I wonder how many readers on this forum are aware of your
reference
> to "Performance" which I saw about 5 times when it came out when I
> was about 15 years old. A pretty groovy movie, but as a 15 year-
old
> I went back again and again for the bath tub scenes in which Mick
> suds up with the incredibly beautiful Anita Pallenberg (who later
> married and had children with Keith Richards) and another lady.
>
> The co-director of the movie (it was his first) was Nicolas Roeg
> whom I did not appreciate at the time but who has since directed
one
> of my all-time favourite movies: "Bad Timing (A sensual
obsession)"
> starring Art Garfunkel, Theresa Russell (who Roeg married), and
> Harvey Keitel. Just an incredible movie that I am constantly
trying
> to get a DVD copy of but they haven't released it yet in a format
> compatible for US DVD's. I once sent away for a video copy on
ebay
> that was of very poor quality because it was a bootleg and I have
> never bothered to see it in full because it hurts too much seeing
a
> version where the quality is so bad.
>
> Roeg made three movies where he made had a Rock star in the
starring
> role: David Bowie ("Man who fell to Earth"), Art Garfunkel ("Bad
> Timing"), and Jagger ("Performance")...kinda like that nutty but
fun
> director Ken Russel who made several movies in the '70s with Rock
> Stars.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > There is much about Mr. Jagger to be apprec-
> > iated, in the Tomwise sense of the word. He's
> > 62, he looks better physically than he's looked
> > for much of his life, and he's still got the
> > energy to rock 'n roll. There are far less cool
> > ways to pass an incarnation.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
---I had heard that Laura was a pot-head; I'm not sure whether booze or cocaine was W's drug of choice. What is more dangerous, is what they call in AA a dry drunk. A dry drunk is someone who quits drinking on their own, without dealing with the underlying issues that caused the addiction. A dry drunk can be more dangerous, actually, angry and vengeful. Whether or not he still drinks, I don't know; I have heard a few months ago, that he is taking some strong anti- depressents, and I have noticed some facial tics that would suggest this, as this is a side-effect of some of those medications. He has an addiction to exercise now, which is good. But more and more, his karma is closing in on him, from all sides. I have heard that the Rove leak stuff, which is under investigation now, could really nail the whole corrupt administration. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. > > > > That's interesting. I did not know that. > > Yes, she was chain-smoking during the Repub Convention. > > > > > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know > > > for sure? > > > > Back when Bush choked on a pretzel, there was much speculation that > > "Evil Dewars" was the cause. > > Interesting. Thanks. > > > > Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hbi5dtv/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123701983/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- I have read many books on the matter. Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution, and thousands were executed in that matter; we have all heard the stories of the vicious nature of the Romans... When the Romans adopted Jesus' teachings, they attempted to Romanize it, and take all Jewishness out. After all, the Romans hated the Jews, and felt superior to them. So, why is it so hard to believe, that such a people would not corrupt and pervert his teachings for thier own purposes. You must have heard the stories, of the inquisition, and the witch trials, in Germany, and other parts of Europe, when anyone could accuse anyone else, of being a witch; and subject them to torture and burning alive in public. In the name of religion, more people have been killed. What in God's name does any of this have to do with the person who Jesus was? So, this dosen't sound intuitive correct to you, then I could offer no proof, as old themes die hard, and it is impossible to teach something, when one does not care to learn. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --Jesus never said these things. > > And how do you KNOW this? > > btw, does thinking this help bolster your own world view, makes you > feel more comfortable with your own philosophy? If so, is there much > doubt as to why you lash out at world view that contradict your own? > > Again, how would you know for certain what some man 2000 years ago, > speaking a dead language, using idioms of the day -- of which al but > the most arcane sholars are familiar, actually said? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hfujvnu/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123702499/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Notable People Who Died of Lung Cancer By The Associated Press > > > Tue Aug 9, 7:38 PM ET > > > > > > > > > > > > A select list of notable people who've died of lung cancer over > the > > > years: > > > > Be interesting to see that list correlated with smoking... > > Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. Makes me wonder > if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for sure? And I'm looking > for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. I heard that Laura is a chain-smoker with a real addictive problem. I would assume that George, being a born-again true-believer, has been a teetotaler since accepting JC. Isn't that the profile of the typical born-again? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hii8mkg/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123702501/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
"jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for sure? And I'm looking for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. Tom T writes: It doesn't really matter since he has all the characteristics of the "dry drunk". It is not the drinking as much as the "stinking thinking". Since our Dubya never went through real recovery he has just substituted one addiction for religion and power. Both of these have rather larger ramifications to others and or society. Yes, I have gone through recovery which makes it easier to see. If you want the definite view on this read "When Society becomes an Addict" by Ann Marie Wilson Schief. Tom Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hfgmi42/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123702981/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev in Russia
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Notable People Who Died of Lung Cancer By The Associated Press > > > > Tue Aug 9, 7:38 PM ET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A select list of notable people who've died of lung cancer > over > > the > > > > years: > > > > > > Be interesting to see that list correlated with smoking... > > > > Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. Makes me > wonder > > if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for sure? And I'm > looking > > for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. > > > I heard that Laura is a chain-smoker with a real addictive problem. > > I would assume that George, being a born-again true-believer, has > been a teetotaler since accepting JC. Isn't that the profile of the > typical born-again? yep, though I've heard reports that he has replaced alcohol to a large extent with powerful prescription drugs. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h4tpb12/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703120/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for > sure? And I'm looking for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. > > Tom T writes: > It doesn't really matter since he has all the characteristics of the > "dry drunk". It is not the drinking as much as the "stinking > thinking". Since our Dubya never went through real recovery he has > just substituted one addiction for religion and power. Both of these > have rather larger ramifications to others and or society. Yes, I have > gone through recovery which makes it easier to see. If you want the > definite view on this read "When Society becomes an Addict" by Ann > Marie Wilson Schief. Tom Yes, I have heard that; of Bush being a non-recovered dry drunk. i'll look for that book too next time I'm at the library. Thanks Tom. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hf3dr8f/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703179/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- I have read many books on the matter. so that proves it I guess. Lots of books surely give you the definative view as to what Jesus actually said 2000 years ago speaking aramaic -- a languange I presume you do not speak. > Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution, and thousands were > executed in that matter; we have all heard the stories of the vicious > nature of the Romans... > When the Romans adopted Jesus' teachings, they attempted to Romanize > it, and take all Jewishness out. > After all, the Romans hated the Jews, and felt superior to them. So let me see if I got this. Romans killed people with crucifixes and hated jews. They romanized things. And thus you know what jesus actually said. Ok, that makes sense, i'm following you so far. > So, why is it so hard to believe, that such a people would not corrupt and pervert his teachings for thier own purposes. Not so hard. But how in heavens name does that make your interpretation of what Jesus said correct? > You must have heard the stories, of the inquisition, and the witch > trials, in Germany, and other parts of Europe, when anyone could > accuse anyone else, of being a witch; and subject them to torture and burning alive in public. In the name of religion, more people have been killed. What in God's name does any of this have to do with the person who Jesus was? Um not much. But what in God's name does any of this have to do with the making you knowledgable about what Jesus actually said? > > So, this dosen't sound intuitive correct to you, then I could offer no proof, as old themes die hard, and it is impossible to teach something, when one does not care to learn. Sounds like arguments any number of groups use. These could just as well be the words of a creationist, and pseudo neo-advaitist or a white-arayan. Such words all play on the insecurites of naive people. Personally, I think Jesus plagerized the Beatles. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h0s8lbm/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703257/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---I had heard that Laura was a pot-head; I'm not sure whether booze > or cocaine was W's drug of choice. > What is more dangerous, is what they call in AA a dry drunk. > A dry drunk is someone who quits drinking on their own, without > dealing with the underlying issues that caused the addiction. > A dry drunk can be more dangerous, actually, angry and vengeful. > Whether or not he still drinks, I don't know; > I have heard a few months ago, that he is taking some strong anti- > depressents, and I have noticed some facial tics that would suggest > this, as this is a side-effect of some of those medications. > He has an addiction to exercise now, which is good. > But more and more, his karma is closing in on him, from all sides. > I have heard that the Rove leak stuff, which is under investigation > now, could really nail the whole corrupt administration. re: his karma closing in- it really is starting to feel like just before it begins to rain...Of course I've thought that before, so we'll see if anything happens. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h0ndo9c/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703288/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Account notify
He's on a Mac. He's also camping in Colorado at the moment. When did you receive it? on 8/10/05 12:42 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > That's the second virus infected post from steve. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hebj113/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703464/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Monthly Yahoo! Group usage fee
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Message from Yahoo! Groups: > > It now costs $100 a month to participate in the FairField Life forum. > > Please write your name, email address, and user name on the back of a > $100 bill and send it to: > > Shemp McGurk > Quick Getaway Motel > Nogales, Mexico. > > Thank you. Do you take personal checks? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hc8n003/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703624/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds like arguments any number of groups use. These could just as > well be the words of a creationist, and pseudo neo-advaitist or a > white-arayan. Such words all play on the insecurites of naive people. > > Personally, I think Jesus plagerized the Beatles. Ha-ha! Now I can't wait to call someone a 'pseudo neo-advaitist'!!! Made my day! Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h465apl/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703652/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---I had heard that Laura was a pot-head; I'm not sure whether booze > or cocaine was W's drug of choice. > What is more dangerous, is what they call in AA a dry drunk. > A dry drunk is someone who quits drinking on their own, without > dealing with the underlying issues that caused the addiction. > A dry drunk can be more dangerous, actually, angry and vengeful. > Whether or not he still drinks, I don't know; > I have heard a few months ago, that he is taking some strong anti- > depressents, and I have noticed some facial tics that would suggest > this, as this is a side-effect of some of those medications. > He has an addiction to exercise now, which is good. > But more and more, his karma is closing in on him, from all sides. > I have heard that the Rove leak stuff, which is under investigation > now, could really nail the whole corrupt administration. > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. > > > > > > That's interesting. I did not know that. > > > > Yes, she was chain-smoking during the Repub Convention. > > > > > > > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know > > > > for sure? > > > > > > Back when Bush choked on a pretzel, there was much speculation > that > > > "Evil Dewars" was the cause. > > > > Interesting. Thanks. > > > > > > Alex I hope that the knowlege of higher states of consciousness is more first hand than all the political innuendo that flies around no wonder we were all such easy pickens. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hcqg28i/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703720/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
Ooh, Jagger is such a courageous opinion-maker putting himself out there and risking the wrath of the powers that be. Ooh, what a trailblazer. It should be noted that the last time Jagger and the Rolling Stones ever tried to do something controversial was back in the '70s when they wrote and recorded the song "Claudine" about Andy Williams' ex- wife Claudine Longet who murdered her lover, ski Champion Spider Sabish, in 1976 and served only 30 days in an Aspen, Colorado jail. Those brave souls, the Rolling Stones, were so fearful of being sued by Longet, that they never released the song and it is only available as a bootleg. At least Bob Dylan recorded and released "Hurricane" in support of Rubin "Hurricane" Carter (who, of course, turned out to be so obviously guilty as hell). Boy, that Mick is really brave, isn't he? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jagger mauls Bush > (Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM) > > The Rolling Stones accuse President George W Bush of being "full of sh*t" on their new album, it has emerged. > > "Sweet Neo Con", one of the tracks on the band's forthcoming LP "A Bigger Bang", is known to be fiercely anti-Bush. > > However, the full force of the lyrics and Mick Jagger's disdain for the American leader has now been confirmed, with The Stones singer revealing the lyrics in a new interview. > > An extract from "Sweet Neo Con" features the following lines: "You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite/You call yourself a patriot, well I think you're full of sh*t." > > Speaking to Newsweek, Jagger explained the background to the track. "It is direct. Keith said (adopting Richards' voice), 'It's not really metaphorical.' > > "I think he's a bit worried because he lives in the U.S. But I don't," commented Sir Mick. > > "A Bigger Bang" is released on September 5 and is preceded by the single, "Streets Of Love" on August 22. The band begin their forthcoming world tour in Boston on August 21. > > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h94hivs/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703864/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Account notify
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's on a Mac. He's also camping in Colorado at the moment. When did you > receive it? > > > on 8/10/05 12:42 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > > > That's the second virus infected post from steve. I responed to it posted here. Through the web interface. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hr46thv/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703940/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Sounds like arguments any number of groups use. These could > just as > > well be the words of a creationist, and pseudo neo-advaitist or a > > white-arayan. Such words all play on the insecurites of naive people. > > > > Personally, I think Jesus plagerized the Beatles. > > Ha-ha! Now I can't wait to call someone a 'pseudo neo-advaitist'!!! > Made my day! Thanks! Yea, I didn't want to give the impression that ALL neo-adviatists were phonies. So I threw in the "pseudo". Actually I think "quasi-reformationist pseudo neo-advaitist plagerists" is a better term to capture the thought I was getting at. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hdm3ejk/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703965/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's permanently drunk on power, sycophancy and lies. But it cannot > go on > forever. I sense that the legal, moral and political net is beginning > to close > around him. Can a trip to The Hague be far off? And when it comes, I > think a > 10-15 year sentence might be about right. Such a possibility occurring has about as much chance as Jane Fonda and John Kerry being tried for aiding enabling the communist holocaust that took place in SouthEast Asia after the US pullout from VietNam... > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for > sure? And > I'm looking for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hf2kmd1/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123703970/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ooh, Jagger is such a courageous opinion-maker putting himself out > there and risking the wrath of the powers that be. Ooh, what a > trailblazer. > > It should be noted that the last time Jagger and the Rolling Stones > ever tried to do something controversial was back in the '70s when > they wrote and recorded the song "Claudine" about Andy Williams' ex- > wife Claudine Longet who murdered her lover, ski Champion Spider > Sabish, Sabich. Its Spider Sabich! You psuedo quasi neo-non skier! in 1976 and served only 30 days in an Aspen, Colorado jail. > Those brave souls, the Rolling Stones, were so fearful of being sued > by Longet, that they never released the song and it is only > available as a bootleg. > > At least Bob Dylan recorded and released "Hurricane" in support of > Rubin "Hurricane" Carter (who, of course, turned out to be so > obviously guilty as hell). > > Boy, that Mick is really brave, isn't he? > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jagger mauls Bush > > (Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM) > > > > The Rolling Stones accuse President George W Bush of being "full > of sh*t" on their new album, it has emerged. > > > > "Sweet Neo Con", one of the tracks on the band's forthcoming LP "A > Bigger Bang", is known to be fiercely anti-Bush. > > > > However, the full force of the lyrics and Mick Jagger's disdain > for the American leader has now been confirmed, with The Stones > singer revealing the lyrics in a new interview. > > > > An extract from "Sweet Neo Con" features the following lines: "You > call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite/You call yourself > a patriot, well I think you're full of sh*t." > > > > Speaking to Newsweek, Jagger explained the background to the > track. "It is direct. Keith said (adopting Richards' voice), 'It's > not really metaphorical.' > > > > "I think he's a bit worried because he lives in the U.S. But I > don't," commented Sir Mick. > > > > "A Bigger Bang" is released on September 5 and is preceded by the > single, "Streets Of Love" on August 22. The band begin their > forthcoming world tour in Boston on August 21. > > > > > > > > - > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h76q9qd/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123704207/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev in Russia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://gurudev.nm.ru/ ...how about Prabhupada in Russia? http://www.prabhupada.org.uk/war_arr.htm ...and, pray tell, who does his comments remind you of? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h38ev2m/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123704214/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Sounds like arguments any number of groups use. These could > > just as > > > well be the words of a creationist, and pseudo neo-advaitist or a > > > white-arayan. Such words all play on the insecurites of naive people. > > > > > > Personally, I think Jesus plagerized the Beatles. > > > > Ha-ha! Now I can't wait to call someone a 'pseudo neo- advaitist'!!! > > Made my day! Thanks! > > Yea, I didn't want to give the impression that ALL neo-adviatists were > phonies. So I threw in the "pseudo". Actually I think > "quasi-reformationist pseudo neo-advaitist plagerists" is a better > term to capture the thought I was getting at. Of course! Why didn't I think of that? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hqci49s/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123704292/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > Sounds like arguments any number of groups use. These > could > > > just as > > > > well be the words of a creationist, and pseudo neo-advaitist > or a > > > > white-arayan. Such words all play on the insecurites of naive > people. > > > > > > > > Personally, I think Jesus plagerized the Beatles. > > > > > > Ha-ha! Now I can't wait to call someone a 'pseudo neo- > advaitist'!!! > > > Made my day! Thanks! > > > > Yea, I didn't want to give the impression that ALL neo-adviatists > were > > phonies. So I threw in the "pseudo". Actually I think > > "quasi-reformationist pseudo neo-advaitist plagerists" is a better > > term to capture the thought I was getting at. > > Of course! Why didn't I think of that? You are not as over-clocked as I am? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hu7f3j3/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123704425/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
I think it's more than just "boring"...I think it's the epitome of the very evil that they are trying to convince us we are on the side of for not accepting JC.Can you imagine the Son of God condemning 80% of humanity to burn in hell for all eternity because they don't ascribe to the perverted and twisted interpretation of a part of the Bible that was never meant to be used as a recruiting marketing ploy?I just never understood how people could rely upon a thought or a concatenation of thoughts as a reality. It seemed to me that the only sound basis for any spiritual discovery had to be ones basic awareness, and since that never changes anything else just had to be relative to that. If Christians cannot cope with that experience then I cannot cope with their snobbish insistence upon their concatenated conceits. Especially if they think that their devil has spawned rock and roll. If you cannot accept rock and roll then I cannot accept your Jesus, because I sure as fuck am not listening to harp music in your vague cloud 9. It's like I always said to my wife. "Where is the soul?" She is smart and said, "Somewhere in here." Describing a square area in the chest. I said, "OK, but what is it's form, what doesn it look like?" She would say, "I don't know." I'm like, "Well, don't they teach what the soul is, where it is, what it looks like, etc... in Catholic school?" She said, "Probably, but I forget." My point is that if you don't know what your soul is, what it looks like, what it's nature then what the fuck are you fightin for, and who are you fighting? You might be fighting your very own soul. But you won't know it. Maybe the evil clutches of Satan you feel are the wings of your soul flapping. How will you ever know if you don't have the faith and guts to find out. If you run in fear the first time you feel the breath of eternity then you're doomed. In my book. So go hold onto your McDonald's hamburger. It's about as close to your own soul as most Christians will ever get. Fear the laughter, fear the sex, fear the drugs, fear all of God's creations, run from the Sharks. Don't go into the water. OK, gotta wash the dishes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When the Romans adopted Jesus' teachings, they attempted to > Romanize it, and take all Jewishness out. "Take all Jewishness out" is quite the understatement, as Christianity is the very antithesis of Judaism. From the Jewish perspective, Christianity is idolatrous worship of a false Messiah. Personally, I find Jewish counter-missionary commentary to be a real eye-opener: http://tinyurl.com/37qc2 http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/web/mainpages/handbook.html http://www.outreachjudaism.org/questions.html Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h4cjjjq/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123704816/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
Get a program called Emule and you
can download it. Here's a link: Bad
Timing (1980 - Theresa Russel Nicola Roeg).avi
- Original Message -
From: shempmcgurk
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres.
Bush..'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
wrote:> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
> wrote:> > > > Jagger mauls Bush > >
(Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM) > > > > The Rolling
Stones accuse President George W Bush of being > > "full of sh*t" on
their new album, it has emerged.> > That Mick, always strutting
the obvious. :-)> > Really, good for Mick. Given the
respective> levels of personal power involved, I suspect > that a
showdown between Mick and Dubya would > turn out pretty much like the
confrontation > between Turner and Chas in
"Performance."I wonder how many readers on this forum are
aware of your reference to "Performance" which I saw about 5 times when it
came out when I was about 15 years old. A pretty groovy movie, but as
a 15 year-old I went back again and again for the bath tub scenes in which
Mick suds up with the incredibly beautiful Anita Pallenberg (who later
married and had children with Keith Richards) and another lady.The
co-director of the movie (it was his first) was Nicolas Roeg whom I did not
appreciate at the time but who has since directed one of my all-time
favourite movies: "Bad Timing (A sensual obsession)" starring Art Garfunkel,
Theresa Russell (who Roeg married), and Harvey Keitel. Just an
incredible movie that I am constantly trying to get a DVD copy of but they
haven't released it yet in a format compatible for US DVD's. I once
sent away for a video copy on ebay that was of very poor quality because it
was a bootleg and I have never bothered to see it in full because it hurts
too much seeing a version where the quality is so bad.Roeg made
three movies where he made had a Rock star in the starring role: David Bowie
("Man who fell to Earth"), Art Garfunkel ("Bad Timing"), and Jagger
("Performance")...kinda like that nutty but fun director Ken Russel who made
several movies in the '70s with Rock Stars.> >
There is much about Mr. Jagger to be apprec-> iated, in the Tomwise sense
of the word. He's> 62, he looks better physically than he's
looked> for much of his life, and he's still got the> energy to
rock 'n roll. There are far less cool> ways to pass an
incarnation.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres. Bush..'
What's with the guilt. I have turned
down a couple gorgeous chicks because they were a bit too slutty for me.
Regrets, yes, later, guilt, no, never. If I fucked them now that I'm married
then yes, guilt. But the wife would find a way to make me pay even if it took
all eternity. People look elsewhere for the Lords of Karma. Look no further than
the wife.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Gimbel
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jagger Gets Brave/ Slams Pres.
Bush..'
-Mick seems to be the ultimate rock star, and has no shame
about anything, really, He has claimed to be the most bedded person in
the world, having slept with over a thousand women.It would be nice if
we all could be so, guilt-free!-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
wrote:> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:> > --- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:> > > > > > Jagger mauls Bush
> > > (Tuesday August 09, 2005 10:14 AM) > > >
> > > The Rolling Stones accuse President George W Bush of being
> > > "full of sh*t" on their new album, it has emerged.>
> > > That Mick, always strutting the obvious. :-)>
> > > Really, good for Mick. Given the respective>
> levels of personal power involved, I suspect > > that a showdown
between Mick and Dubya would > > turn out pretty much like the
confrontation > > between Turner and Chas in "Performance.">
> > > > I wonder how many readers on this forum are
aware of your reference > to "Performance" which I saw about 5 times
when it came out when I > was about 15 years old. A pretty groovy
movie, but as a 15 year-old > I went back again and again for the
bath tub scenes in which Mick > suds up with the incredibly beautiful
Anita Pallenberg (who later > married and had children with Keith
Richards) and another lady.> > The co-director of the movie (it
was his first) was Nicolas Roeg > whom I did not appreciate at the time
but who has since directed one > of my all-time favourite movies:
"Bad Timing (A sensual obsession)" > starring Art Garfunkel, Theresa
Russell (who Roeg married), and > Harvey Keitel. Just an incredible
movie that I am constantly trying > to get a DVD copy of but they
haven't released it yet in a format > compatible for US DVD's. I
once sent away for a video copy on ebay > that was of very poor
quality because it was a bootleg and I have > never bothered to see it in
full because it hurts too much seeing a > version where the quality
is so bad.> > Roeg made three movies where he made had a Rock star
in the starring > role: David Bowie ("Man who fell to Earth"), Art
Garfunkel ("Bad > Timing"), and Jagger ("Performance")...kinda like that
nutty but fun > director Ken Russel who made several movies in the
'70s with Rock > Stars.> > > > > >
> > There is much about Mr. Jagger to be apprec-> > iated,
in the Tomwise sense of the word. He's> > 62, he looks better
physically than he's looked> > for much of his life, and he's still
got the> > energy to rock 'n roll. There are far less
cool> > ways to pass an incarnation.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
C'mon, Laura Bush smoke pot? She's not intelligent enough to handle the high. Her brain would implode and then melt into a synchophantic volumn of LaHaye's neverending apocalypse. - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list ---I had heard that Laura was a pot-head; I'm not sure whether booze or cocaine was W's drug of choice.What is more dangerous, is what they call in AA a dry drunk.A dry drunk is someone who quits drinking on their own, without dealing with the underlying issues that caused the addiction.A dry drunk can be more dangerous, actually, angry and vengeful.Whether or not he still drinks, I don't know; I have heard a few months ago, that he is taking some strong anti-depressents, and I have noticed some facial tics that would suggest this, as this is a side-effect of some of those medications.He has an addiction to exercise now, which is good.But more and more, his karma is closing in on him, from all sides.I have heard that the Rove leak stuff, which is under investigation now, could really nail the whole corrupt administration.In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote:> > > Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. > > > > That's interesting. I did not know that.> > Yes, she was chain-smoking during the Repub Convention.> > > > > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know> > > for sure? > > > > Back when Bush choked on a pretzel, there was much speculation that> > "Evil Dewars" was the cause.> > Interesting. Thanks. > > > > Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would assume that George, being a born-again true-believer, has > been a teetotaler since accepting JC. Isn't that the profile of > the typical born-again? I don't think he gave up booze right away, actually. That took a couple more years. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12ha33a62/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123705193/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
Hey, since you've read alot about the cruxifiction (Cross Fiction) could you tell me whether the crosses were actually X shaped? Instead of T? - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature --- I have read many books on the matter.Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution, and thousands were executed in that matter; we have all heard the stories of the vicious nature of the Romans...When the Romans adopted Jesus' teachings, they attempted to Romanize it, and take all Jewishness out.After all, the Romans hated the Jews, and felt superior to them.So, why is it so hard to believe, that such a people would not corrupt and pervert his teachings for thier own purposes.You must have heard the stories, of the inquisition, and the witch trials, in Germany, and other parts of Europe, when anyone could accuse anyone else, of being a witch; and subject them to torture and burning alive in public. In the name of religion, more people have been killed. What in God's name does any of this have to do with the person who Jesus was?So, this dosen't sound intuitive correct to you, then I could offer no proof, as old themes die hard, and it is impossible to teach something, when one does not care to learn.In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel"> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > --Jesus never said these things.> > And how do you KNOW this? > > btw, does thinking this help bolster your own world view, makes you> feel more comfortable with your own philosophy? If so, is there much> doubt as to why you lash out at world view that contradict your own?> > Again, how would you know for certain what some man 2000 years ago,> speaking a dead language, using idioms of the day -- of which al but> the most arcane sholars are familiar, actually said? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--Hey, I think Laura's really hot! so watch out. It's a known fact she sold and smoked pot in college. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > C'mon, Laura Bush smoke pot? She's not intelligent enough to handle the high. Her brain would implode and then melt into a synchophantic volumn of LaHaye's neverending apocalypse. > > > - Original Message - > From: Robert Gimbel > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:26 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list > > > ---I had heard that Laura was a pot-head; I'm not sure whether booze > or cocaine was W's drug of choice. > What is more dangerous, is what they call in AA a dry drunk. > A dry drunk is someone who quits drinking on their own, without > dealing with the underlying issues that caused the addiction. > A dry drunk can be more dangerous, actually, angry and vengeful. > Whether or not he still drinks, I don't know; > I have heard a few months ago, that he is taking some strong anti- > depressents, and I have noticed some facial tics that would suggest > this, as this is a side-effect of some of those medications. > He has an addiction to exercise now, which is good. > But more and more, his karma is closing in on him, from all sides. > I have heard that the Rove leak stuff, which is under investigation > now, could really nail the whole corrupt administration. > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Oddly enough, Laura Bush is a secret cigarette smoker. > > > > > > That's interesting. I did not know that. > > > > Yes, she was chain-smoking during the Repub Convention. > > > > > > > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know > > > > for sure? > > > > > > Back when Bush choked on a pretzel, there was much speculation > that > > > "Evil Dewars" was the cause. > > > > Interesting. Thanks. > > > > > > Alex > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > --- - > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --- - Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12ho55rp8/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123705638/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is better > > > than anyone else's. > > > > Not just "a better way," but "the only way." > > > > > It gets very boring, and it is untrue. All people can really > > > say about the spiritual path they adopt is, "It works for me," > and > > > I wish they would leave it at that. > > > > Trouble is, "the only way" is an integral part > > of the path; it's "what works" for them. Take > > that away, and it's no longer Christianity. > > Well, it's no longer a simplistic and absolutist brand of > Christianity that demands all shades of gray be dumbed down to black > and white. However, not all denominations of Christianity make such > demands. Some Christians can actually live with shades of gray and > uncertainty and have no need to soothe themselves with a false > certainty based on others being wrong. I'm sure that's true, but if they don't believe Christ is the *only* way to be reconciled with God, they're not adhering to orthodox Christian doctrine. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h6fepn1/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123705754/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
---Hey, In those days, before computers, and Xerox machines, everything was kind of dependent on the availability of wood, and who was making the crosses. Depending on the needs, of how many people were lined up to get nailed, sometimes any old thing would do. But in general, crosses were the mode. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, since you've read alot about the cruxifiction (Cross Fiction) could you tell me whether the crosses were actually X shaped? Instead of T? > > > - Original Message - > From: Robert Gimbel > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:34 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature > > > --- I have read many books on the matter. > Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution, and thousands were > executed in that matter; we have all heard the stories of the vicious > nature of the Romans... > When the Romans adopted Jesus' teachings, they attempted to Romanize > it, and take all Jewishness out. > After all, the Romans hated the Jews, and felt superior to them. > So, why is it so hard to believe, that such a people would not corrupt > and pervert his teachings for thier own purposes. > You must have heard the stories, of the inquisition, and the witch > trials, in Germany, and other parts of Europe, when anyone could > accuse anyone else, of being a witch; and subject them to torture and > burning alive in public. In the name of religion, more people have > been killed. What in God's name does any of this have to do with the > person who Jesus was? > So, this dosen't sound intuitive correct to you, then I could offer no > proof, as old themes die hard, and it is impossible to teach > something, when one does not care to learn. > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --Jesus never said these things. > > > > And how do you KNOW this? > > > > btw, does thinking this help bolster your own world view, makes you > > feel more comfortable with your own philosophy? If so, is there much > > doubt as to why you lash out at world view that contradict your own? > > > > Again, how would you know for certain what some man 2000 years ago, > > speaking a dead language, using idioms of the day -- of which al but > > the most arcane sholars are familiar, actually said? > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > --- - > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --- - Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hg5fi3u/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706009/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > Sounds like arguments any number of groups use. These > > could > > > > just as > > > > > well be the words of a creationist, and pseudo neo- advaitist > > or a > > > > > white-arayan. Such words all play on the insecurites of naive > > people. > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I think Jesus plagerized the Beatles. > > > > > > > > Ha-ha! Now I can't wait to call someone a 'pseudo neo- > > advaitist'!!! > > > > Made my day! Thanks! > > > > > > Yea, I didn't want to give the impression that ALL neo- adviatists > > were > > > phonies. So I threw in the "pseudo". Actually I think > > > "quasi-reformationist pseudo neo-advaitist plagerists" is a better > > > term to capture the thought I was getting at. > > > > Of course! Why didn't I think of that? > > > You are not as over-clocked as I am? could b-ee, less coff-ee for m-ee. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hosatkq/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706110/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is > > > > better than anyone else's. It gets very boring, and it is > > > > untrue. > > > > > > And it drowns out the TMers saying the same thing. :-) > > > > Although, of course, what TMers say is *about* their > > path, whereas what the Christians say *is* their path. > > Excellent distinction. And many Christians believe that the only > way to become one with God is to die physically. yow! Well, no, you can never become one with God, in Christian belief. Jesus was the one and only who ever was one with God, but he was God to begin with. > Of course the main shortcoming with TM's teachings is that you can > wallow in the seven states of conciousness forever without gaining > enlightenment. Five, six, and seven *are* enlightenment, according to MMY. > I don't know if that is an actual shortcoming, or just an example > of the expression, 'you can lead a TMer to Brahman, but you can't > make him drink'. > > In other words, after Maherishi provides us the tools for > experiencing the other 4 states of conciousness (tc, cc, gc, uc), > how would he then tell us to go beyond them, to all inclusive > Brahman? Any ideas anyone? In my understanding, he says GC and UC, and presumably BC as well--and whatever there is after BC--develop naturally once you've reached CC. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hu1pldv/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706125/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Bouncing
20 percent is an improvement. The first time I took a look at those statistics, more than a third of the members were bouncing. It's probably less now because yahoo gives free email accounts 1 GB of storage. It used to be 2 to 3 MB. --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just noticed that 219 of FFL's 963 members are > bouncing. I don't > think that refers to the dome numbers. Thats over > 20%. And only is > applicable to those who receive emails. Which is a > minority, maybe > 20-30%. So 65-99% of email opters are "air" -- no > longer existing > accounts. I wonder if the same % is extrapable to > archive readers. It > would imply that only a very small % of the 963 > members actually read > any posts. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hhqiea7/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123698289/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get > fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hdqlj9k/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706331/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
---One of the best books I have found to read on this matter is: Jesus and the Zealots (A Study of the Political Factor in Primitive Christianity) (Hardcover) by S G F. Brandon (Author) see: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/- /0684310104/qid=1123698971/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7619991-9000117? v=glance&s=books In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, since you've read alot about the cruxifiction (Cross Fiction) could you tell me whether the crosses were actually X shaped? Instead of T? > > > - Original Message - > From: Robert Gimbel > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:34 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature > > > --- I have read many books on the matter. > Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution, and thousands were > executed in that matter; we have all heard the stories of the vicious > nature of the Romans... > When the Romans adopted Jesus' teachings, they attempted to Romanize > it, and take all Jewishness out. > After all, the Romans hated the Jews, and felt superior to them. > So, why is it so hard to believe, that such a people would not corrupt > and pervert his teachings for thier own purposes. > You must have heard the stories, of the inquisition, and the witch > trials, in Germany, and other parts of Europe, when anyone could > accuse anyone else, of being a witch; and subject them to torture and > burning alive in public. In the name of religion, more people have > been killed. What in God's name does any of this have to do with the > person who Jesus was? > So, this dosen't sound intuitive correct to you, then I could offer no > proof, as old themes die hard, and it is impossible to teach > something, when one does not care to learn. > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --Jesus never said these things. > > > > And how do you KNOW this? > > > > btw, does thinking this help bolster your own world view, makes you > > feel more comfortable with your own philosophy? If so, is there much > > doubt as to why you lash out at world view that contradict your own? > > > > Again, how would you know for certain what some man 2000 years ago, > > speaking a dead language, using idioms of the day -- of which al but > > the most arcane sholars are familiar, actually said? > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > --- - > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --- - Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hd1vmvl/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706381/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Sounds like arguments any number of groups use. These > > > could > > > > > just as > > > > > > well be the words of a creationist, and pseudo neo- > advaitist > > > or a > > > > > > white-arayan. Such words all play on the insecurites of > naive > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I think Jesus plagerized the Beatles. > > > > > > > > > > Ha-ha! Now I can't wait to call someone a 'pseudo neo- > > > advaitist'!!! > > > > > Made my day! Thanks! > > > > > > > > Yea, I didn't want to give the impression that ALL neo- > adviatists > > > were > > > > phonies. So I threw in the "pseudo". Actually I think > > > > "quasi-reformationist pseudo neo-advaitist plagerists" is a > better > > > > term to capture the thought I was getting at. > > > > > > Of course! Why didn't I think of that? > > > > > > You are not as over-clocked as I am? > > could b-ee, less coff-ee for m-ee. No coffee for me. Its that ketu-jupiter conjunction is causing my synapses to over fire. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h2ccthk/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706438/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way is > > > > > better than anyone else's. It gets very boring, and it is > > > > > untrue. > > > > > > > > And it drowns out the TMers saying the same thing. :-) > > > > > > Although, of course, what TMers say is *about* their > > > path, whereas what the Christians say *is* their path. > > > > Excellent distinction. And many Christians believe that the only > > way to become one with God is to die physically. yow! > > Well, no, you can never become one with God, in > Christian belief. Jesus was the one and only who > ever was one with God, but he was God to begin with. > > > Of course the main shortcoming with TM's teachings is that you can > > wallow in the seven states of conciousness forever without gaining > > enlightenment. > > Five, six, and seven *are* enlightenment, according > to MMY. > > > I don't know if that is an actual shortcoming, or just an example > > of the expression, 'you can lead a TMer to Brahman, but you can't > > make him drink'. > > > > In other words, after Maherishi provides us the tools for > > experiencing the other 4 states of conciousness (tc, cc, gc, uc), > > how would he then tell us to go beyond them, to all inclusive > > Brahman? Any ideas anyone? > > In my understanding, he says GC and UC, and presumably > BC as well--and whatever there is after BC--develop > naturally once you've reached CC. Yeah, I know he says that about gc and uc, but I didn't recall him talking about bc in the same way. Probably because it is impossible to... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12htk3p0j/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706576/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lung Cancer list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We already had one of those, Jim. His name was Bill Clinton. He > fought a > valiant battle against the right-wing nutters and has never received > much > credit for it. I would like to ask feste37 and anyone else that would like to weigh in on this: 1) Did you and do you now support Bill Clinton? 2) Do you consider yourself a liberal? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > He's permanently drunk on power, sycophancy and lies. But it > cannot > > > go on > > > forever. I sense that the legal, moral and political net is > beginning > > > to close > > > around him. Can a trip to The Hague be far off? And when it > comes, I > > > think a > > > 10-15 year sentence might be about right. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > Makes me wonder if W is a secret drinker...Does anyone know for > > > sure? And > > > I'm looking for hard evidence, not just partisan attacks. > > > > Good points all. Perhaps we will see a decent replacement, in every > > sense of the word...Can you imagine that? A President to be proud > of. > > Boggles the imagination. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hu8cf7a/M=364397.6958316.7892810.4764722/D=groups/S=1705171145:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123706638/A=2915264/R=0/SIG=11t7isiiv/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34443/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs";>Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
