[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago

2007-05-06 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 Mother Meera:
 http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/

Just curious, is she perhaps from the North of India?

 
 Chicago Program:
 http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp
 
 -Gov Doug,FF





[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

2007-05-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  the joy of drinking...
  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html
 
 Many thanks for this, Bob. Such a funny, well-
 written review makes me want to order the book.
 
 The Bar is certainly a source of fascination. 
 Honestly, I really don't drink that much -- too
 fuckin' old to get away with it -- but I really
 do appreciate a good bar. I'm a fan of the Bars
 With Ambiance Of Their Own. It doesn't have to
 be a classy, upscale, designer-Buddhist ambiance,
 like the Buddhabars in Paris and in Barcelona.
 Obviously. I blew out of the Nirvana bar in Sitges
 within minutes. By comparison, the Bar Pay Pay 
 down the block is tacky to the max. But it's got 
 soul, man. One feels good sitting here and watching 
 the passersby. One has cool conversations here, and 
 has them consistently. What more can one ask of a 
 bar?
 
 The social lubricants of human society such as 
 aloohol have been around as long as there have 
 been humans, and thus are an important part of
 the sociology of the human race. I mean, *cave 
 men* found ways to distill plants and get high. 
 Ponder that. Even though they were only one rung 
 up the evolutionary ladder from chimpanzees, the 
 earliest humans carried with them the chimps' 
 inherent desire to get high, to shift their 
 state of attention.
 
 In the absence of technologies such as meditation,
 bars are where humans go to shift their state of
 attention. Most of the humans on this planet are
 unaware of technologies such as meditation. There-
 fore, in my book, bars are interesting. That's 
 where you would go if you were a seeker who had
 found no other way to shift your state of attention.
 
 The best bar I've ever had the privilege of 
 sitting and writing in is no more. It was Windows
 On The World, in the World Trade Center. *Magnif-
 icent* ambiance. The next best bar I've ever been
 in is the bar at Yab Yum in Amsterdam. This may
 be a stretch for those still attached to the puri-
 tanical ways of the TMO; Yab Yum is a brothel, 
 the highest-class brothel in Amsterdam, at the
 time I was going there. But, it's also the kind
 of brothel where you might run into the Stones 
 at the bar, or politicians from major countries
 of the world. It's a real trip.

Man, how prejudiced you are. 
Around about 1978 (+-) there was this rare Yogi who visited 
Seelisberg. Almost every night Maharishi let him lecture in the Main 
Assembly Hall. All he would talk about was unity in all it's facets. 
Evening after evening. Unity, unity, unity and the need for seclusion 
to reach that state. 
Nothing wrong with that, the Yogi, who's name I no longer recall, was 
obviously firmly established in that state.
One day Maharishi told his secretary to take the fellow on a trip to 
Lucern. And he was rather surprized to suddenly find himself in a 
well known bar in that city where the secretary insisted they should 
spend quite some time.
When the Yogi's time in Seelisberg was up and he was going home to 
India someone asked him how his stay had been. Marvelous he said, 
then he declared that Maharishi is a generous and great Mahapurusha. 
But, he said, Maharishis secretaries are rather strange !

The lesson ? Perhaps the Yogi needed to grow into Brahman, to 
experience that he was in fact everything, including bars and their 
inhabitants.

Would Maharishi denounce brothels ? Me think not.



[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

2007-05-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  

Attempts to amass money is not bad.

Taking  money from well-meaning donators under the auspices 
of 
 a 
   non-
profit organisation and then using it for your own personal 
 gains 
IS bad.  And it's not holy either.

If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that 
 is 
precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.

Is it true?  I don't know.  I've never seen formally audited 
financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in 
  order 
   to 
confirm whether it's true.  

Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be 
great 
 to 
   be 
proven wrong.  But I ask: Do such audited documents exist?  
If 
  so, 
what do they say?  Do they contradict the charges against 
 Girish 
   et. 
al. that have been made here?

 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
  dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
   
   For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the 
   University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking 
account/ 
   savings account.  Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit 
  slip 
   from my current account.
   
   ...
   
   The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so 
please 
   send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit 
  required 
   to make a repair appointment this summer.
   
   ...
   
   They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility 
for 
  our 
   country, and for creating a more perfect world.
   
   ...
   
   Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very 
precious 
   work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level 
 you 
   can, and thank you in advance for your support.
   
   ...
   
   Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent 
 generosity...
   There has never been so much given to this community for so 
 little 
   cost.
  
  
  ??
  
  What does the above have to do with anything?
  
  Did I incorrectly read the Kaplan posts that were posted here?  
Did 
 I 
  not read here that if you cross the Shrivastava family that you 
do 
 it 
  risking your own physical safety?  Did I not read here that a 
donor 
  who once sent $1 million to the Movement in India was told that 
the 
  money was lost in transit?
  
 
  What does the fucking cultspeak that you blather above mean in 
this 
  conversation??
 
 
 Oh Dear Shemp, may be it is their cry of wolf too much.  But it may 
 be up they are up against it.  You know, a lot of money over the 
dam 
 and under the bridge.  They might be up against it with people like 
 you and the Kaplans wanting an accounting and all.  
 
 Hey,I was hoping that betwx the two of us may be we could come up 
 with a hundred dollars of shingles to fix the roof.  I already gave 
a 
 hundred dollars to the roof last week when the letter first came 
 out.  May be if you would match me,  then between the two of us 
there 
 could be a hundred dollars of shingles.  Who knows?  May be that is 
 part of the problem.
 
 A lot of people have voted with their feet.  I mean,now come show 
 your faith, belief, or experience?  How about a hundred bucks, from 
 FFL?
 
 Your Friend,
 JGD, Gov Doug fra FF


...and a big, wet, juicy kiss from the Easter Bunny to you!




[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

2007-05-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
   
   Attempts to amass money is not bad.
   
   Taking  money from well-meaning donators under the auspices of 
a 
  non-
   profit organisation and then using it for your own personal 
gains 
   IS bad.  And it's not holy either.
   
   If many of the posters on this forum are to be believed, that 
is 
   precisely what is happening with both Girish and his family.
   
   Is it true?  I don't know.  I've never seen formally audited 
   financial statements of the Movement's goings-on in India in 
 order 
  to 
   confirm whether it's true.  
   
   Hey, I hope these nay-sayers are wrong...and it would be great 
to 
  be 
   proven wrong.  But I ask: Do such audited documents exist?  If 
 so, 
   what do they say?  Do they contradict the charges against 
Girish 
  et. 
   al. that have been made here?
   
  
  
  For automatic deduction from a bank account: I authorize the 
  University to collect my monthly pledge from my checking account/ 
  savings account.  Enclosed is a voided check or savings deposit 
 slip 
  from my current account.
  
  ...
  
  The Dome is is at the heart and soul of our community, so please 
  send your donation or pledge now so we can make the deposit 
 required 
  to make a repair appointment this summer.
  
  ...
  
  They are fundamental to our cherished goals of invincibility for 
 our 
  country, and for creating a more perfect world.
  
  ...
  
  Maharishi is allowing us the honor to carry on his very precious 
  work. Please make your donation or pledge now at whatever level 
you 
  can, and thank you in advance for your support.
  
  ...
  
  Think of it as a small way to repay Maharishi's recent 
generosity...
  There has never been so much given to this community for so 
little 
  cost.
 

Nice !



[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

2007-05-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  The best bar I've ever had the privilege of 
  sitting and writing in is no more. It was Windows
  On The World, in the World Trade Center. *Magnif-
  icent* ambiance. The next best bar I've ever been
  in is the bar at Yab Yum in Amsterdam. This may
  be a stretch for those still attached to the puri-
  tanical ways of the TMO; Yab Yum is a brothel, 
  the highest-class brothel in Amsterdam, at the
  time I was going there. But, it's also the kind
  of brothel where you might run into the Stones 
  at the bar, or politicians from major countries
  of the world. It's a real trip.
 
 Man, how prejudiced you are. 

Me? I used to *hang* at Yab Yum. Never sampled
the merchandise, other than the beverages, but
I really enjoyed my time there. Some fascinating
conversations, and some good writing that came 
out of those conversations.

 Around about 1978 (+-) there was this rare Yogi who visited 
 Seelisberg. Almost every night Maharishi let him lecture in 
 the Main Assembly Hall. All he would talk about was unity 
 in all it's facets. 
 Evening after evening. Unity, unity, unity and the need for 
 seclusion to reach that state. 
 Nothing wrong with that, the Yogi, who's name I no longer 
 recall, was obviously firmly established in that state.

As (I think) you point out below, if he was so
firmly established in that state, what was it
about Unity that he couldn't find in the bar?

 One day Maharishi told his secretary to take the fellow on 
 a trip to Lucern. And he was rather surprized to suddenly 
 find himself in a well known bar in that city where the 
 secretary insisted they should spend quite some time.
 When the Yogi's time in Seelisberg was up and he was going 
 home to India someone asked him how his stay had been. 
 Marvelous he said, then he declared that Maharishi is a 
 generous and great Mahapurusha. 
 But, he said, Maharishis secretaries are rather strange !

It's an open question as to whether going to the 
bar was the secretary's idea or Maharishi's, but
the outcome was the same in either case -- the
firmly established in Unity yogi got to exper-
ience just how fragile and artificial his estab-
lishment was. 

In some spiritual traditions, one of the first 
things that the teachers suggest when a student
starts having strong enlightenment experiences 
is that they go out into the world and see if
it sticks. If it does, cool. And if it doesn't,
cool. Either way, you've learned something.

The test of enlightenment, as I see it, is how
well you maintain in *all* circumstances and
environments, not just the ones you prefer or
consider refined and spiritual. I've met 
yogis who could radiate samadhi consistently
in the meeting hall, but who turned into 
frightened little mice when having to navigate 
a busy city street. I don't know about you, but 
that makes me wonder just how established 
they really were.

 The lesson ? Perhaps the Yogi needed to grow into 
 Brahman, to experience that he was in fact everything, 
 including bars and their inhabitants.

I would agree with you that that's the lesson of
the story. The author of the story (whether 
Maharishi or his secretary) remains a matter of
speculation.

 Would Maharishi denounce brothels ? Me think not.

I've never heard him make a comment on them one 
way or another; I'd suspect, from his general
attitudes towards sex (There is only the married
householder or the recluse; anything else is a 
waste of life.) that his take on them wouldn't
be positive, but that's just a guess.

Me, I don't mind them because I've managed to have
some Class-A spiritual conversations in brothels.
With the women, with the patrons, and with the
owners. I've sat in the bars of brothels and had
long, deep conversations on karma and dharma, on
reincarnation, on meditation and its value, on 
sexuality and how it works on an occult level, and
on other fascinating topics. I even taught meditation
once in a brothel, to one of the women. I paid the
fee for her services myself, went to the room she
usually took people to have sex with them, and 
taught her how to meditate. Because it was at Yab
Yum and the time in the rooms cost 200 Euros an hour,
that little experience of teaching meditation cost
*me* something like 500 Euros, but it was worth 
every centime...one of the highest experiences of
my life. She is now retired, but still meditates.

I really don't know why I like these places. Maybe 
there is something about the basic honesty of why 
everyone is there that bleeds over into the conver-
sations they have in such places. I don't know. All 
I know is that sometimes I prefer the honesty and 
openness of the conversations I find in bars and 
brothels to the dogmatism and reject-the-joys-of-
the-world-ness I often find in temples and ashrams 
and meditation centers.

Part of it is a Tantric thing for me, being drawn
to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

2007-05-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   The best bar I've ever had the privilege of 
   sitting and writing in is no more. It was Windows
   On The World, in the World Trade Center. *Magnif-
   icent* ambiance. The next best bar I've ever been
   in is the bar at Yab Yum in Amsterdam. This may
   be a stretch for those still attached to the puri-
   tanical ways of the TMO; Yab Yum is a brothel, 
   the highest-class brothel in Amsterdam, at the
   time I was going there. But, it's also the kind
   of brothel where you might run into the Stones 
   at the bar, or politicians from major countries
   of the world. It's a real trip.
  
  Man, how prejudiced you are. 
 
 Me? I used to *hang* at Yab Yum. Never sampled
 the merchandise, other than the beverages, but
 I really enjoyed my time there. Some fascinating
 conversations, and some good writing that came 
 out of those conversations.

 Your prejudices pertain to the TMO 

  Around about 1978 (+-) there was this rare Yogi who visited 
  Seelisberg. Almost every night Maharishi let him lecture in 
  the Main Assembly Hall. All he would talk about was unity 
  in all it's facets. 
  Evening after evening. Unity, unity, unity and the need for 
  seclusion to reach that state. 
  Nothing wrong with that, the Yogi, who's name I no longer 
  recall, was obviously firmly established in that state.
 
 As (I think) you point out below, if he was so
 firmly established in that state, what was it
 about Unity that he couldn't find in the bar?

Please read above man ! He didn't need any knowledge of Unity but of 
Brahman.  Geez...
 
  One day Maharishi told his secretary to take the fellow on 
  a trip to Lucern. And he was rather surprized to suddenly 
  find himself in a well known bar in that city where the 
  secretary insisted they should spend quite some time.
  When the Yogi's time in Seelisberg was up and he was going 
  home to India someone asked him how his stay had been. 
  Marvelous he said, then he declared that Maharishi is a 
  generous and great Mahapurusha. 
  But, he said, Maharishis secretaries are rather strange !
 

 
  The lesson ? Perhaps the Yogi needed to grow into 
  Brahman, to experience that he was in fact everything, 
  including bars and their inhabitants.
 
 I would agree with you that that's the lesson of
 the story. The author of the story (whether 
 Maharishi or his secretary) remains a matter of
 speculation.

Maharishi instructed the secretary, making that rather obvious. I'd 
like to see the secretary with the guts to bring International guests 
to bars...




[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago

2007-05-06 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
 
  
  Mother Meera:
  http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/
 
 Just curious, is she perhaps from the North of India?

No, she is from Andhra Pradesh, south India. She was born in a small
village not too far from Hyderbad, in Nalgond district. She is very
light-colored if that is what you mean, but people in Andhra are not
necessarily as dark as in Tamil. In the 1980s she had a
nose-operation, because her nostrils were to small, which destroyed
the indian shape of her nose. Now her indian home is in Madanapalle,
also the birth place of Jai Krishnamurty, about 2 hrs from Bangalore.

  Chicago Program:
  http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp
  
  -Gov Doug,FF
 





[FairfieldLife] The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread TurquoiseB
We'll know tonight how the French feel about the
world and their place in it. Approximately 90% of
them are expected to vote today -- compare that to
the voting rates in the U.S.

However, at this point the polls are saying that
Sarko has the lion's share, and that's a sad thing,
in my opinion. Sarko is a mini-me version of George
W. Bush. He's smarter, and much more polished, but
his fake compassionate conservatism lacks compas-
sion, and he tends towards 1) violence towards those
who don't share his views (he has a history of this
in his time as a minister) and 2) an outspoken 
distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
ship back where they came from if he can.

Segolene Royal is, in contrast, a remarkably 
balanced politician, one who manages to juggle
practical economic reforms with compassion and
social programs that benefit *all* of the people,
not just the rich ones.

We'll see who the French identify with more, tonight.
I think it would be a giant step backwards if Sarko
wins, but there you jolly well are, aren't you? One
of the biggest issues facing this planet is immi-
gration and how to handle it gracefully, and the
tendency one sees in country after country is towards
reactionary, protective thinking, and handling it
rather ungracefully. 

Bon chance, France. Not being able to vote in your
election, I lift my glass to you from the South and
wish you well -- both in your choices in the voting
booths, and your karmas as a result of making them.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

2007-05-06 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Man, how prejudiced you are. 
 Around about 1978 (+-) there was this rare Yogi who visited 
 Seelisberg. Almost every night Maharishi let him lecture in the Main 
 Assembly Hall. All he would talk about was unity in all it's facets. 
 Evening after evening. Unity, unity, unity and the need for seclusion 
 to reach that state. 
 Nothing wrong with that, the Yogi, who's name I no longer recall, was 
 obviously firmly established in that state.
 One day Maharishi told his secretary to take the fellow on a trip to 
 Lucern. And he was rather surprized to suddenly find himself in a 
 well known bar in that city where the secretary insisted they should 
 spend quite some time.
 When the Yogi's time in Seelisberg was up and he was going home to 
 India someone asked him how his stay had been. Marvelous he said, 
 then he declared that Maharishi is a generous and great Mahapurusha. 
 But, he said, Maharishis secretaries are rather strange !
 
 The lesson ? Perhaps the Yogi needed to grow into Brahman, to 
 experience that he was in fact everything, including bars and their 
 inhabitants.
 
 Would Maharishi denounce brothels ? Me think not.

Did his name start with an M.? Msomethingananda? I think I remember
him and remember hearing the story. He was a very nice guy. If its the
same one Maharishi sent him to different places in the movement, on a
tour through europe, like Skandinavia, also Rhineweiler where I was.
He visited again, when Shantanand was in Seelisberg in 83. He had a
lot of Ashrams in India. I remember seeing him and the Shankaracharya
off with Maharishi at Zürich airport.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

2007-05-06 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the joy of drinking...
 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html

The reality of drinking...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgiZp3LDRNg



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find

2007-05-06 Thread Buggy
Well I will try to give her a call..I tired a few days ago but no answer 
...once I get moved I will let her know my new info and you too
  - Original Message - 
  From: jim_flanegin 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 8:53 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find


  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6624117.stm
   
   'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find
   
   
   
   The discovery has been likened to finding a treaure trove
   
   Paintings of Buddha dating back at least to the 12th century have 
   been discovered in a cave in a remote area of Nepal's north-central 
   region.
  
  I am just curious why they date the paintings just back to the 12th 
  century? I am thinking they could be much older. 



   


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting

2007-05-06 Thread Buggy
Morning thank you for the warm welcome. I will be sure to keep that whip close 
by!

A small blurb about me ok well I am HellBug (Bug for short) a nickname friends 
many moons ago gave me cause my opinions about life, government and politics 
annoy some yet I'm loyal to a fault. I am head strong, determined and yet I 
care about others which IMO most of the human race is lacing compassion most of 
the time. I'm 36, a Libra, born in California but moved to Oklahoma when my 
youngest son was born wanting the kids to have a better life away from the 
city. I'm a huge animal lover I have five Chihuahua's plan to start breeding 
them soon and like to write poetry and short stories.

Hope this works as my introduction and its really nice to meet you all on this 
list.

Bug
  - Original Message - 
  From: Duveyoung 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 5:35 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting


  Buggy,

  Welcome to the group! Howzbout ya present us with a blurb about yourself?

  And, er, what kind of buggy should we be thinking of ya over here? 

  Baby?
  Kookoo?
  Pissy?
  Insectoid?
  Flawed?
  Infested?
  Shay?
  Bugs Bunny?
  Wood Critter?

  Please don't say all the above!

  My mother was blind, so yeah gang, put your comments on the top of the
  emails! Hell, even us sighted folks hate scrolling down for 30
  seconds only to find a two word (Yo Adrian!) response.

  Buggy, if you're the shay type, keep your whip handy. There's
  highwaymen, yapping dogs, and saints here, so you've been warned.

  Yappy Edg

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Morning I need to warn you all now I cannot snip as I truly cannot
  figure out how to do that on this program yet:) I apologize for any
  inconvenience
   - Original Message - 
   From: Sal Sunshine 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:48 AM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting
   
   
   On May 4, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
   
   
   Incidentally, Buggy's situation, as a blind person, is a good
  reason for all of us snipping. If he's using a program which reads
  emails aloud, then if we don't snip, he has to listen to many minutes
  of junk to get to the new material embedded in it.
   
   
   Which oftentimes turns out to be junk as well, so maybe the
  non-trimmers are doing Buggy a favor, albeit inadvertently. :)
   
   Sal
   
   
   
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Designing Utopia

2007-05-06 Thread Duveyoung
If the bees go back to Venus, we'll all be planting backyard gardens
and hand pollinating our flowering veggies.

That would be a wonderful thingy, cuz suddenly everyone would have
this in common, and we'd start talking to each other again over the
back fence.  We'd be great big bees, ya see, wiggling our butts for
each other in Tantric dances -- doing our spring planting boogies --
like that.  Yeah, it'd be about mulching etc., but community would
strengthen tremendously.  A funny thing about growing a garden is that
Mother Nature is so generous that one starts giving away tomatoes like
they were handfuls of pennies flung to urchins.

It expands the spirit to give materially, eh?  So give it all away!

Okay, keep yer flatscreened, metrosexy, lifestyle, but at least start
with the tomatoes.

Once the bees are gone, it could be a huge wake up call, cuz it's one
thing to know the last polar bear ever could be walking the earth
TODAY, but howzbout one sees a bee in one's backyard after reading
that almost no bees are found anywhere on earth?  How precious will
that last bee be to thee, see?  How deep the impact on one then to
lose an ever-present little creature that has peppered our lives from
the get-go?  What then will you make of the Silence of the Clover
Fields, Clarice?  We'll all be that American Indian with one tear
flowing down his cheek.

But, nope, the geeks will think, hey, just import this here insect
from Australia, and it pollinates like the bees did, and hey, let's
add a few bits of swine DNA to it while we're at it.  And the next
thing you know, a nice sweet little downunder bug decides it should
overrun upover environment, and then it's common to be sitting on a
plane on the tarmac for an hour waiting for a sky-darkening swarm to
pass before we take off.

Simpler life -- most of us with a garden to tend -- that's such a big
step towards Utopia, than I find myself satisfied with a job well done.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I've been working on a fiction idea lately that has 
 left me thinking a lot about utopias. And I thought
 today that this might be an interesting thread for
 Fairfield Life.
 
 Any number of authors have tried their hand at 
 designing a fictional utopia, from Sir Thomas More's
 island to Aldous Huxley's. I would be interested in 
 hearing about some of the characteristics that the 
 seekers here on FFL (who, after all, have had some 
 hands on experience in pursuing utopias) would 
 design into a real-life utopia of their own.
 
 Assuming anyone is interested in sharing cool ideas 
 for an aspect of life -- be it social, religious, 
 health-related, education-related...whatever -- you'd 
 want to see in your personal utopia, I'd love to keep 
 the thread as positive as possible. In other words, 
 rather than discussing the things we *wouldn't* want 
 to see in our inner perfect world, we could discuss 
 a few of the things we *would* like to see in such a 
 perfect world. They could be your own ideas or inter-
 esting ideas you read about in some work of fiction 
 or in scripture or from any other source, be it 
 spiritual or mundane.
 
 The first one I can think of is a very small thing, 
 but remembering it recently has made me smile ever 
 since, so I'll share it. On Huxley's Island, (if I 
 remember correctly...it's been over 35 years since I 
 read it) they had trained the wild parrots to say 
 Karuna or Here and now, boys! I really like that. 
 As you walk through the jungle, every so often a bird-
 voice comes out of the trees to remind you to pay 
 attention to here and now, or to the importance 
 of kindness.
 
 My own utopian ideas are at this point still in flux, 
 so I have little to share, except that I'd like to 
 see a system of government that has taking care of 
 its people -- *all* of its people, in terms of food, 
 shelter, health care and education -- as its first 
 and highest priority. I'll work on how I'm going to 
 accomplish that in real life and get back to you 
 later...  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Troubled past

2007-05-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
(Warning: this discussion may only be relevant to Judy and myself, and
people who enjoy reading our disagreements.  If I have done my part it
may at times cause you to spill your coffee or Chai tea while reading.)

snip
 Judyjim have presented a criticism of my total commitment
 and sincere efforts when I was a part of organization a
 few times here, as if following MMY's strictest programs,
 sidhaland and MIU was a personal failure of mine.

Judy: What I was pointing out by quoting what you
told the D.C. City Paper was (a) that you went
*way* overboard, embellishing your program with
all kinds of things that had nothing to do with
what MMY teaches; and (b) that the tone in which
you described all this very clearly indicated
that you yourself found it troubling that you
had gone to these extreme lengths to get a buzz.

Me: They had nothing to with what MMY taught YOU.  My use of all those
things were recommended by MMY's top leaders to me personally.  This
included Nandkashore, my TTC phase III course leader and the Indian
movement leader who actually got me the deer skin in India.  It was
not troubling to me at the time, it was a total blast.  It is from the
perspective that I gained when I left the movement that I could see
how odd it all was.  In the context of the culture of the fulltime
monks in the movement that I lived with it was normal behavior. The
phrase getting a buzz reflects my perspective that the higher
states of consciousness we were experiencing were altered states with
little epistemological significance.  You have no idea what my
subjective experiences were at the time, so you have no way to tell if
I was overboard.  From the perspective of a non-TM teacher, who has
never lived fulltime, the whole structure of the programs I lived in
were over your chosen board.  

 They also point to my willingness to share my new
 perspective with those who were interested as if
 this too reveals a defect in my character.

Judy: Wrong. The defect in your character is your
attempt to deny that your previous perspective
was a troubled one.

I certainly don't believe, and I'll bet Jim
doesn't either, that having had a troubled past
is equivalent to having a defect in character.

Me:  How many times do I have to say that I had a great time in the
movement before you stop this nonsense.  I got nothing but strokes for
my participation in the organization.  I learned a lot and had a
blast.  My perspective was certified and lauded by numerous TM
organizations including MIU, TTC, the National movement and DC council
of 300 governors.  There was not only nothing troubling in my movement
perspective according to the movement, I was chosen as its
spokesperson in many different contexts.  The fact that I decided that
my perspective was wrong, or that looking back on it all I see the
humor, has nothing to do my past.  This is a fantasy you have
persisted in concerning my movement participation. I think it stems
from your inability to accept that someone could have a great time in
the movement, experience MMY's predicted state of mind, and then
decide that it was an incorrect perspective and walk away.  You are
trying to discredit my participation in the movement, but the problem
is that you didn't know me then. So you use snippets of a reporter's
recollections about what I said in a long interview as evidence of my
flawed perspective.  This is in the face of actual evidence of my role
in the organization.  I was no more troubled than anyone, but that
doesn't mean that I was correct in what I believed at the time.

Judy: There is, perhaps, a defect in character involved
when the new perspective views the troubled
past exclusively in terms of victimization
and consists of excessively, exaggeratedly
negative portrayals of the purported victimizers.

Curtis:  Since I have repeated numerous times that I was not
victimized by the movement, this statement is knowingly false. I had a
blast, learned a lot, and decided it was not the way I wanted to view
life.  Many of the things seem funny to me now.  There are people who
left the movement who felt victimized, so you are attempting to apply
a staw man to my situation.  I chose my participation, enjoyed it, and
even in the cases where manipulative techniques were used, I chose to
put myself in the contexts where they could be used.  I am not victim
of the TM organization, I am a successful graduate of its perspective.
 I value both my participation and my choice to leave.

 The attempt to paint my life as troubled because I was sincerely
 focused on MMY's teachings for 15 years, and since 1989 have
 expressed another point of view on his teaching, is lame.

What's lame is this characterization of what
Jim and I have been saying.

Rather then
 discussing ideas, it is the last resort to attempt to attack
 the person rather than an argument. It is the lowest form of
 discourse. It takes neither imagination or intellectual
 insight.

Then why are you doing it in this post?


[FairfieldLife] Re: This guy Girish is creepy

2007-05-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
  Just be honest and tell me what happened to all 
  the money.
 
Peter wrote:
 All the money? When I taught TM I sent all of it to
 National and half was returned to me. The cost of
 learning TM was $125.00 for a working adult when I
 taught.  
 
So, when are you going to return the money to the poor 
people that you told would reach enlightenment in 5-7 
years?



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Stunning' Nepal Buddha art find

2007-05-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
jim flanegin wrote:
 I am just curious why they date the paintings 
 just back to the 12th century?

Because they are 12th century paintings?

 I am thinking they could be much older.

Not much older, because tantric Buddhism wasn't 
introduced into Tibet before 774 AD with the arrival 
of Padmasambhava.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?

2007-05-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
Jason Spock wrote:   
 Tell us something about Tien Tai.

Tian Tai is Buddhist Madyamika, which postulates 
that all things are void of true nature and that 
they are without an essential reality; that all 
things are real and unreal at the same time, 
according to Nagarjuna's Middle Way, similar to 
Shankaracharys's notion that Maya is unreal yet 
real - an appearance only.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, and Mother Meera in Chicago

2007-05-06 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 5/6/2007 2:00:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
,  dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  
 Mother Meera:
 _http://www.mmdarshahttp://wwhttp_ (http://www.mmdarshanamerica.com/) 

Just  curious, is she perhaps from the North of India? 
No. She is from the South. Lsoma.

 
 Chicago  Program:
 _http://www.mothermehttp://wwwhttp://www.mhtt_ 
(http://www.mothermeeraashram.org/default.jsp) 
  
 -Gov Doug,FF



 


 



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[FairfieldLife] A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
OK, having some free time this morning, I thought I'd pull a Barry. :)  
So here's our latest poll, on who uses inflammatory language the most, 
since that seems to be a hot topic lately (apart from flinging dung, of 
course).  Now I'm not drawing any conclusions  one way or another, it's 
just a topic of conversation.  We report, you decide. :)

These are culled from all the posts made by these posters since they 
started posting here:  Judy, Curtis, Barry, and, just for balance,  
yours truly. :)

# of posts with the word 'liar' in them:

Judy: 137
Curtis: 19
Barry: 47
Sal: 8

# of posts with the word 'lying' in them:

Judy: 188
Curtis: 32
Barry: 84
Sal: 9

# of posts with the word 'hypocrite' in them:

Judy: 40
Curtis: 9
Barry: 19
Sal: 6

# of posts with the word 'hypocrisy' in them:

Judy: 132
Curtis: 10
Barry: 29
Sal: 8



[FairfieldLife] Re: Troubled past

2007-05-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Judy: What I was pointing out by quoting what you
 told the D.C. City Paper was (a) that you went
 *way* overboard, embellishing your program with
 all kinds of things that had nothing to do with
 what MMY teaches; and (b) that the tone in which
 you described all this very clearly indicated
 that you yourself found it troubling that you
 had gone to these extreme lengths to get a buzz.
 
 Me: They had nothing to with what MMY taught YOU.

Or what he taught you, as you go on to confirm:

  My use of all
 those things were recommended by MMY's top leaders to me 
 personally.  This included Nandkashore, my TTC phase III course 
 leader and the Indian movement leader who actually got me the deer
 skin in India.

(Just out of curiosity, were these recommendations
something they told you about on their own, or did
you *ask* what more you could be doing to get your
buzz?)

 It was not troubling to me at the time, it was a 
 total blast.

Of course. I'm not sure where you got the idea I
was saying it was troubling to you at the time.

  It is from the
 perspective that I gained when I left the movement that I could
 see how odd it all was.

Right.  *That's* what I was saying.

  In the context of the culture of the fulltime
 monks in the movement that I lived with it was normal behavior.
 The phrase getting a buzz reflects my perspective that the
 higher states of consciousness we were experiencing were
 altered states with little epistemological significance.

Right.

  You have no idea what my
 subjective experiences were at the time, so you have no way to
 tell if I was overboard.

I never said your subjective experiences were
overboard, Curtis. Again, I can't figure out where
you got that idea.

  From the perspective of a non-TM teacher, who has
 never lived fulltime, the whole structure of the programs I lived in
 were over your chosen board.

I don't know what over your chosen board means.

snip
 I certainly don't believe, and I'll bet Jim
 doesn't either, that having had a troubled past
 is equivalent to having a defect in character.
 
 Me:  How many times do I have to say that I had a great time in
 the movement before you stop this nonsense.

Never said otherwise. Another straw man.

snip
  The fact that I decided that
 my perspective was wrong, or that looking back on it all I see the
 humor, has nothing to do my past.

Not sure how that works. If you can look back on it,
it's your past by definition.

  This is a fantasy you have
 persisted in concerning my movement participation. I think it
 stems from your inability to accept that someone could have a
 great time in the movement, experience MMY's predicted state of 
 mind, and then decide that it was an incorrect perspective and
 walk away.

No, that's a fantasy you have about what you
think is my fantasy. I have no problem accepting
all that.

  You are
 trying to discredit my participation in the movement,

No more than you are!

 but the 
 problem is that you didn't know me then. So you use snippets
 of a reporter's recollections about what I said in a long
 interview as evidence of my flawed perspective.

Were you misquoted, or quoted misleadingly?

  This is in the face of actual evidence of my role
 in the organization.  I was no more troubled than anyone, but that
 doesn't mean that I was correct in what I believed at the time.

Right. What I'm talking about is your
perspective *now*.

 Judy: There is, perhaps, a defect in character involved
 when the new perspective views the troubled
 past exclusively in terms of victimization
 and consists of excessively, exaggeratedly
 negative portrayals of the purported victimizers.
 
 Curtis:  Since I have repeated numerous times that I was not
 victimized by the movement, this statement is knowingly false.

Well, no, it's not. It may be false, but not
knowingly. It's based on what you've said here
and on alt.m.t, and goodness knows I'm not the
only person to understand it that way, your denials
notwithstanding.

But again, it has to do with your perspective *now*,
not back then.

snip
 Judy: Curtis, you almost invariably use ad hominem
 whenever you're challenged on something. You're
 no purer than anybody else in that regard. Your
 absurd attack on nablusos for hiding behind a
 fake name, which was entirely gratuitous, having
 nothing to do with nablusos's humorous dig at you,
 is a case in point.
 
 Me: You have overgeneralized the term ad hominem and have
 confused it with getting personal.

ad hominem...literally, to the person
1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather 
than by an answer to the contentions made

[Curtis to Nablusos]
However, like Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf, I have the courage of my
own convictions and do not hide behind a fake name.

[Curtis to me]
Your continued hostility towards me personally speaks for itself 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was great.  I'm just glad I was able to up my own numbers this
morning before your count!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 OK, having some free time this morning, I thought I'd pull a Barry. :)  
 So here's our latest poll, on who uses inflammatory language the most, 
 since that seems to be a hot topic lately (apart from flinging dung, of 
 course).  Now I'm not drawing any conclusions  one way or another, it's 
 just a topic of conversation.  We report, you decide. :)
 
 These are culled from all the posts made by these posters since they 
 started posting here:  Judy, Curtis, Barry, and, just for balance,  
 yours truly. :)
 
 # of posts with the word 'liar' in them:
 
 Judy: 137
 Curtis: 19
 Barry: 47
 Sal: 8
 
 # of posts with the word 'lying' in them:
 
 Judy: 188
 Curtis: 32
 Barry: 84
 Sal: 9
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrite' in them:
 
 Judy: 40
 Curtis: 9
 Barry: 19
 Sal: 6
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrisy' in them:
 
 Judy: 132
 Curtis: 10
 Barry: 29
 Sal: 8





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 6, 2007, at 11:03 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


That was great.  I'm just glad I was able to up my own numbers this
morning before your count!


I figured you'd get a kick out of it, Curtis, especially the dung part. 
:)


Sal


[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 OK, having some free time this morning, I thought I'd pull a 
 Barry. :) So here's our latest poll, on who uses inflammatory 
 language the most, since that seems to be a hot topic lately
 (apart from flinging dung, of course).  Now I'm not drawing
 any conclusions  one way or another, it's just a topic of 
 conversation.  We report, you decide. :)

Well, it's a good thing you aren't drawing any
conclusions from this, Sal.

You didn't actually *read the posts*, did you?

Because if you had, you'd have discovered that by
*far* the majority of my posts with the word liar
in them, for example, are either quoting someone else
using the word or defending somebody else from the
charge of being a liar.

This is based, admittedly, on a relatively small
sample, the first 20 of the 137 Sal cites.  Of that
first 20 (15% of 137), in exactly 3 did I actually 
call someone a liar (15% of 20). Extrapolating,
that would mean I've left 21 posts in which I called
someone a liar.

I'd be willing to bet that of this 21, the vast
majority would be accusations directed at Barry
(and for good reason).

If anyone, God forbid, wants to check out the rest
of my posts and those of others on Sal's list, I
strongly suspect they'll find a similar breakdown.

Nice try, Sal, but no cigar.


 These are culled from all the posts made by these posters since 
they 
 started posting here:  Judy, Curtis, Barry, and, just for balance,  
 yours truly. :)
 
 # of posts with the word 'liar' in them:
 
 Judy: 137
 Curtis: 19
 Barry: 47
 Sal: 8
 
 # of posts with the word 'lying' in them:
 
 Judy: 188
 Curtis: 32
 Barry: 84
 Sal: 9
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrite' in them:
 
 Judy: 40
 Curtis: 9
 Barry: 19
 Sal: 6
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrisy' in them:
 
 Judy: 132
 Curtis: 10
 Barry: 29
 Sal: 8





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 6, 2007, at 11:22 AM, authfriend wrote:

 Well, it's a good thing you aren't drawing any
 conclusions from this, Sal.

 You didn't actually *read the posts*, did you?

 Because if you had, you'd have discovered that by
 *far* the majority of my posts with the word liar
 in them, for example, are either quoting someone else
 using the word or defending somebody else from the
 charge of being a liar.

I figured this would be your standard line of defense, Judy, since 
taking any responsibility for your own words seems to be very 
difficult.   Of course, many of the posts of the others I cited 
(including my own) are simply quoting *you,*  which you conveniently 
left out.

 This is based, admittedly, on a relatively small
 sample, the first 20 of the 137 Sal cites.  Of that
 first 20 (15% of 137), in exactly 3 did I actually
 call someone a liar (15% of 20). Extrapolating,
 that would mean I've left 21 posts in which I called
 someone a liar.

 I'd be willing to bet that of this 21, the vast
 majority would be accusations directed at Barry
 (and for good reason).

But of course.



[FairfieldLife] Cows, Con't

2007-05-06 Thread new . morning
TMO Cows

A farm near Fairfield used to sell cows for $35. Over time the price
went up with inflation. After a swim in the Unified Field, someone
said if we called these Vedic cows, we could buy them cheap and sell
them for thousands of dollars.  Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, we could
milk the vedic cows and sell vedic milk for $500/pint. And put gold on
the pint bottle to make it even more special. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, we could
take the smelly cow dung and sell it as Vedic Nectar worthy of Vedic
rites, and good to burn at home to purify the air. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, We could
sell Vedic air purifiers so increase the vedic prana in the air and
rid homes off toxins, including foul smells from unknown sources
(which smelled ironically like cow dung). Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, if we
make some cows King of all vedic Cows we could charge $5000, for a
cup. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, the milk
from my neighbors cow tastes as good as the King of Vedic Cow's milk
and costs $3/gallon. And is fresher because it comes from next door
each morning, and doesn't need to be shipped from India or the
Netherlands where a lot of the Vedic and King cows were kept in large
east facing barns. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, You will
sink through all the many hells of the netherworld if you stop
drinking the milk from the ONLY real cows, the King of vedic cows.
Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, and the one who heard
this started to laugh, and laugh, and the laughter cuaght on and soon
half the town was rolling on the floor laughing. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, maybe we
could sell laughter as a great vedic healing vibration, but show
research that it only works if you start laughing at the right
thing. Then we could sell the Vedic right thing. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said,  I
laughed using the right Vedic thing, and laughed on my own and well, I
laughed just as hard. And THAT made me laugh even deeper and now I see
the whole universe laughing with me. 

Then, after trying to take another swim in the Unified Field, he saw
that it was a Unified Field of Laughter. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On May 6, 2007, at 11:22 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
  Well, it's a good thing you aren't drawing any
  conclusions from this, Sal.
 
  You didn't actually *read the posts*, did you?
 
  Because if you had, you'd have discovered that by
  *far* the majority of my posts with the word liar
  in them, for example, are either quoting someone else
  using the word or defending somebody else from the
  charge of being a liar.
 
 I figured this would be your standard line of defense, Judy,
 since taking any responsibility for your own words seems to
 be very difficult.

Au contraire, I take full responsibility for
calling people liars when I actually call them
liars.

(You aren't suggesting I should be taking 
responsibility for *other people* using
inflammatory words, are you?)

  Of course, many of the posts of the others I cited 
 (including my own) are simply quoting *you,*  which you 
 conveniently left out.

No, dear, I took it explicitly into account
(but, my goodness, you carefully *deleted* the
part where I did so):

  If anyone, God forbid, wants to check out the rest
  of my posts and those of others on Sal's list, I
  strongly suspect they'll find a similar breakdown.

Similar breakdown = quoting somebody else (e.g.,
me) or defending someone from the accusation.

(You do realize, don't you, that someone else quoting
me using the word liar doesn't *add* any to my
total, right?)

Still no cigar.  Sorry!




[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That was great.  I'm just glad I was able to up my own numbers this
 morning before your count!

Is this a new yahoo feature? Or are you doing so in a mail client?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Troubled past

2007-05-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



   From the perspective of a non-TM teacher, who has
  never lived fulltime, the whole structure of the programs I lived in
  were over your chosen board.

 I don't know what over your chosen board means.


The way you chose to approach the movement and its programs.

snip

   You are
  trying to discredit my participation in the movement,

 No more than you are!

I have changed my perspective on my experiences.  You are attempting
to characterize my experiences as an improper understanding of MMY's
teaching while I was in the movement, which is comical because only
one of us was actually certified as a spokesperson for his teaching. 
By applying the standard and culture of your part-time non teaching
status to my own fulltime experiences, you are just revealing how
little you know about MMY full teaching.


 snip
  Judy: What I was pointing out by quoting what you
  told the D.C. City Paper was (a) that you went
  *way* overboard, embellishing your program with
  all kinds of things that had nothing to do with
  what MMY teaches; and (b) that the tone in which
  you described all this very clearly indicated
  that you yourself found it troubling that you
  had gone to these extreme lengths to get a buzz.
 
  Me: They had nothing to with what MMY taught YOU.

 Or what he taught you, as you go on to confirm:

   My use of all
  those things were recommended by MMY's top leaders to me
  personally.  This included Nandkashore, my TTC phase III course
  leader and the Indian movement leader who actually got me the deer
  skin in India.

So your instructions in the movement all came from MMY himself?  Mine
came mostly from his designated representatives where were authorized
to present his teaching. They were not only trusted to do so,
challenging them on their authority to present MMY's teaching would
have gotten me booted out.


 (Just out of curiosity, were these recommendations
 something they told you about on their own, or did
 you *ask* what more you could be doing to get your
 buzz?)

They woke me up in the middle of the night and forced me to buy a
deerskin against my will.  That is how it works when you are fulltime
and discussing your program with Nandkashore and your TTC  course
leaders.  I have no idea what distinction you are driving at but I'm
pretty sure it is not out of curiosity.  Yo have seem to have no
capacity to understand how a fulltime monk in the movement thinks or
the teachings of MMY that apply to that lifestyle.


  but the
  problem is that you didn't know me then. So you use snippets
  of a reporter's recollections about what I said in a long
  interview as evidence of my flawed perspective.

 Were you misquoted, or quoted misleadingly?

We went over the subtle distinctions in language ad nausium on AMT. 
The basic thrust and point was correct, and since you can't control
the exact wording with a reporter I have to live with the words used.
As an example, I was not claiming to be a little Maharishi, I was
aspiring to become enlightened like my master.  (do you think anyone
else aspired to this in the fulltiime movement or was it just me?)  My
point was that I was living with a perfectionist standard which was
the norm for fulltime monks.  I have since decided that this standard
is not useful for my life from any source, including when I try to
hold myself to my own perfectionist standards.  Aspiring to become a
sidha is by definition a goal of perfection.

Snip
  Curtis:  Since I have repeated numerous times that I was not
  victimized by the movement, this statement is knowingly false.

 Well, no, it's not. It may be false, but not
 knowingly. It's based on what you've said here
 and on alt.m.t, and goodness knows I'm not the
 only person to understand it that way, your denials
 notwithstanding.

So even though I do not consider myself a victim, because I chose my
participation freely, you can label me a victim and criticize me for
being a victim?

You are having a conversation with yourself and supplying my side in a
form that you can use against me. 

You can continue on your own then, you don't need me to confuse you
with the facts concerning my own life.





[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread new . morning
I suppose one conclusion could be that Judy is less of a hypocrite and
liar than others since she is, apparently, being called such less.

However, I am guessing some might take a different angle on this. But
if the count had been of blogs on GWB, and many bloggers used copious
amounts of the words stupid, inept, insane, dangerous, incompetent,
shallow, hollow, phony, perverse, insincere, manipipulative and lazy
-- what would be the possible conclusions? That the bloggers were all
projecting their own qualities on to Bush? That all the bloggers were
simply very negative people?

If one counted high number of the words hypocrite, liar, etc in posts
about Bevan, would it be the most logical conclusion to assume the
posters were off the wall negative? Or might in some cases they have a
point?

If one counted high number of the words happpiness, bliss, peace,
coherence etc in TMO press releases, many would undoubtly lament and
decry the bliss-ninny view of the world. Yet, hard hitting language
seems to be taboo too (liar, hypocrite, etc). What is the moral?
That mediocre, bland language is aa sign of good writing and high
moral character? 




 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 OK, having some free time this morning, I thought I'd pull a Barry. :)  
 So here's our latest poll, on who uses inflammatory language the most, 
 since that seems to be a hot topic lately (apart from flinging dung, of 
 course).  Now I'm not drawing any conclusions  one way or another, it's 
 just a topic of conversation.  We report, you decide. :)
 
 These are culled from all the posts made by these posters since they 
 started posting here:  Judy, Curtis, Barry, and, just for balance,  
 yours truly. :)
 
 # of posts with the word 'liar' in them:
 
 Judy: 137
 Curtis: 19
 Barry: 47
 Sal: 8
 
 # of posts with the word 'lying' in them:
 
 Judy: 188
 Curtis: 32
 Barry: 84
 Sal: 9
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrite' in them:
 
 Judy: 40
 Curtis: 9
 Barry: 19
 Sal: 6
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrisy' in them:
 
 Judy: 132
 Curtis: 10
 Barry: 29
 Sal: 8





[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

2007-05-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  the joy of drinking...
  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html
 
 The reality of drinking...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgiZp3LDRNg

FWIW, from Hasselhof's statement about the video:

I am a recovering alcoholic. Despite [the fact] that I have been 
going through a painful divorce and...have recently been separated 
from my children due to my work, I have been successfully dealing 
with my issue, Hasselhoff had said Thursday after the tape showing 
him drunk was aired by Extra, Entertainment Tonight and The Insider.  

Unfortunately, I did have a brief relapse, but part of recovery is 
relapse. Because of my honest and positive relationship with my 
children, who were concerned for my well-being, there was a tape made 
when I had a relapse to show me what I was like. I have seen the 
tape. I have learned from it, and I am back on my game. I hope that 
someone else will learn from the tape, as I have. I thank God for the 
love and concern from my children.

Long story on Yahoo News:
http://tinyurl.com/ypcc64




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX

2007-05-06 Thread Jason Spock
 
  Thanks a lot, Authfriend.
   
  Isn't Celiac disease an Auto-immune dis-order.??
   
  I'm glad the concerns about Sucralose are anecdotal and not on 
experiment.  Funny, it was discovered way back in the 1970's

authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 18:03:13 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX


http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Oligosaccharide

These aren't artificial; they're substances
found in plants. They're not only safe but
can be beneficial by nurturing friendly
bacteria in the intestinal tract.


http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Sucralose

This is definitely artificial. There's a
detailed discussion about its safety on
this page. Concerns are theoretical and
anecdotal, not based on experiment.

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Maltodextrin

This is made from starch, so it isn't really
artificial either. No known safety concerns,
but it can aggravate celiac disease if it's
made from starch from wheat or barley. It's
used primarily as a thickening agent, not a
sweetener, although it's mildly sweet.

Almost certainly he wouldn't approve of sucralose,
nor is it Vedic, since it was developed only
recently. Ayurveda generally prefers fresh,
unprocessed food, so maltodextrin would probably
not be on the approved list.



 
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[FairfieldLife] Surfing Sitges

2007-05-06 Thread TurquoiseB

Just for the fun of it, here are a few of the things 
that caught my attention this weekend walking the 
streets of this Spanish beach town.

* Music Of The Street Kind. I'm a fan of buskers, 
musicians who play on the streets and who not only
make a living doing what they love to do, they seem
to have *fun* doing it. I kinda judge any new town
by the quality of its street musicians. Well, lemme
tell you, Sitges rocks. In the courtyard of the 
Palau Maricel there is a guitarist obviously well
trained in classical guitar, Flamenco, and jazz,
and he adds chops of his own to create a dreamy 
soundscape that just sucks you in, and is very
appropriate when standing in front of a 15th century
Spanish palace. Just up the street you find a guy
and a gal playing some kind of Swiss metal drum 
thingy that I've never seen before, but which produces 
a rather heavenly percussion sound. It sounds a little 
like what might happen if your steel drum got loose one
night and mated with a marimba and these drums were 
their kids. Really sweet guy and gal, improvising 100% 
of their performance, just bouncing off of each other 
musically, having a ball. It was difficult for me not 
to have a ball along with them. 

* Weird Events Out Of The Blue. So I'm walking down 
at the south end of the beach last night around 
sunset, and I notice a small crowd milling around,
looking out over the beach wall at the little quai 
that juts out into the ocean at that point. Curious, 
I walked up and damned if it's not a swimsuit model
photo session in progress. I have to tell you, Edg,
I almost got over my inhibitions about the word God 
and thanked Him right there. :-) *Very* entertaining.
It was a crew from American Vogue, as far as I could
tell, and they were really doing it up, with four or
five photographers working with ten or twelve...uh...
Major Fashion Magazine Swimsuit Models. I don't think
I have ever seen more walking tributes to the plastic
surgeon's and personal trainers' art in one place in 
my life. And it was entertaining to watch the Spanish 
guys and gals oggling this whole scene, too. They 
seemed as amused by it as I was. 

* Clothing Experiments Of The Deeply Disturbed. This
is a beach town known for its liberal attitudes and
its all-night nightclubs. Just walking down the street
you can see someone walk by wearing ten-inch high heels,
a Borat-inspired bathing suit, and a pink feather boa. 
And that's just the guys. (Just kidding, but only partly, 
because Sitges *is* a big gay mecca.) It's not really 
*that* over the top or flamboyant, but there is an 
amazingly wide range of creative fashion to be seen 
and dazzled by. Later last night I ran into the models
from the photo shoot coming out of a restaurant, and
boy! were they Dressed To Disco. I'll bet a few Spanish
guys had their hearts broken last night, or at the 
very least had their standards raised.

* The Smells. Sitges is a fairly small town that continas
well over a hundred restaurants. Every one I've tried is
not just good, but excellent. You walk by their outdoor
terraces and the smells from each restaurant vie for your
affections and for your Euros. You turn the corner and
this aroma hits your nose, and you can't for the life of
you identify all of its ingredients, but it smalls *really*
good, and you know that you're a goner, and if you don't
stop and eat there today, you will someday soon. 

* The Touchy-Feely Spanish. You might get the impression
from watching French movies and all those bissous (cheek
kisses) that the French are into touching each other a 
lot in public. Au contraire, Pierre. It's almost the 
opposite. The French ckeek kisses are very chaste and
formal, whereas the Spanish cheek kisses might just get
you a Wet Willie. The Spanish exchange kisses as well,
both men and women, but they're more real kisses and
they supplement them with lots of hugs and hand-holding.
It's kinda neat to see after three years in France. The
tendency to touch and stroke and hug a lot extends to
their children, and I'd bet that Spanish kids grow up
pretty happy and fairly well adjusted as a result.

* The CD and DVD Counterfeiters. They're everywhere. 
You'll be walking along a street and look down and this
young guy has a plastic sheet covered with CDs and DVDs.
Curious, you stop to look at them and they're the 
*latest* CDs and DVDs, the ones just now appearing in
stores or in theaters. They have covers, printed disk
labels, the whole bit. Counerfeits, but quality counter-
feits. The CDs sell for 2 Euros, the DVDs five. And 
when a cop appears in the distance, the guy just whips 
up the strings attached to the corners of his plastic 
sheet and, like that... (insert Kevin Spacey gesture 
at the end of The Usual Suspects here)...he's gone. 

* The Sidewalk Bars and Cafes. To Die For. The one I'm 
sitting in right now writing this is a chiringuito. I've
been told that this term was originally applied to the
clapboard beach shacks that sprang up along the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cows, Con't

2007-05-06 Thread Jason Spock
 
  I think it should read Queen of the Vedic Cows.
   
  The King is a Vedic Bull.  What comes out of the bull's backside.??

new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 16:31:34 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cows, Con't

   
  TMO Cows

A farm near Fairfield used to sell cows for $35. Over time the price
went up with inflation. After a swim in the Unified Field, someone
said if we called these Vedic cows, we could buy them cheap and sell
them for thousands of dollars. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, we could
milk the vedic cows and sell vedic milk for $500/pint. And put gold on
the pint bottle to make it even more special. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, we could
take the smelly cow dung and sell it as Vedic Nectar worthy of Vedic
rites, and good to burn at home to purify the air. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, We could
sell Vedic air purifiers so increase the vedic prana in the air and
rid homes off toxins, including foul smells from unknown sources
(which smelled ironically like cow dung). Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, if we
make some cows King of all vedic Cows we could charge $5000, for a
cup. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, the milk
from my neighbors cow tastes as good as the King of Vedic Cow's milk
and costs $3/gallon. And is fresher because it comes from next door
each morning, and doesn't need to be shipped from India or the
Netherlands where a lot of the Vedic and King cows were kept in large
east facing barns. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, You will
sink through all the many hells of the netherworld if you stop
drinking the milk from the ONLY real cows, the King of vedic cows.
Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, and the one who heard
this started to laugh, and laugh, and the laughter cuaght on and soon
half the town was rolling on the floor laughing. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, maybe we
could sell laughter as a great vedic healing vibration, but show
research that it only works if you start laughing at the right
thing. Then we could sell the Vedic right thing. Which they did. 

Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, I
laughed using the right Vedic thing, and laughed on my own and well, I
laughed just as hard. And THAT made me laugh even deeper and now I see
the whole universe laughing with me. 

Then, after trying to take another swim in the Unified Field, he saw
that it was a Unified Field of Laughter. 
   
   

 
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[FairfieldLife] Creepy Pictures

2007-05-06 Thread new . morning
I wonder if Girish thinks people on FFL look creepy? 


http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65

http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65?b=17m=to=0





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, ,Dr. PETE and ALEX

2007-05-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

   Thanks a lot, Authfriend.

You're welcome! I learned some things too.

   Isn't Celiac disease an Auto-immune dis-order.??

Yup. The small intestine apparently lacks an enzyme
to deal with gluten, and this causes the immune
system to attack the lining of the small intestine
(don't ask me how!).

   I'm glad the concerns about Sucralose are anecdotal and
 not on experiment.

Yes, but one of the concerns is that there
haven't been any experiments on long-term use
because it hasn't been available to consumers
until quite recently, so nobody has been using
it on a long-term basis.

I'd guess stevia is probably the safest non-sugar
sweetener. It hasn't been tested long-term either,
but it's been used for a very long time, so you'd
think any problems would have become obvious by now.

And stevia is completely natural.




RE: [FairfieldLife] Creepy Pictures

2007-05-06 Thread Rick Archer
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=21 is a
cool one. Wonder how he did it.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cows, Con't

2007-05-06 Thread new . morning
Are you suggesting, by implication, that the TMO and its
pronouncements are always logical, rational and doable? 




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   I think it should read Queen of the Vedic Cows.

   The King is a Vedic Bull.  What comes out of the bull's
backside.??
 
 new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 16:31:34 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cows, Con't
 

   TMO Cows
 
 A farm near Fairfield used to sell cows for $35. Over time the price
 went up with inflation. After a swim in the Unified Field, someone
 said if we called these Vedic cows, we could buy them cheap and sell
 them for thousands of dollars. Which they did. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, we could
 milk the vedic cows and sell vedic milk for $500/pint. And put gold on
 the pint bottle to make it even more special. Which they did. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, we could
 take the smelly cow dung and sell it as Vedic Nectar worthy of Vedic
 rites, and good to burn at home to purify the air. Which they did. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, We could
 sell Vedic air purifiers so increase the vedic prana in the air and
 rid homes off toxins, including foul smells from unknown sources
 (which smelled ironically like cow dung). Which they did. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, if we
 make some cows King of all vedic Cows we could charge $5000, for a
 cup. Which they did. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, the milk
 from my neighbors cow tastes as good as the King of Vedic Cow's milk
 and costs $3/gallon. And is fresher because it comes from next door
 each morning, and doesn't need to be shipped from India or the
 Netherlands where a lot of the Vedic and King cows were kept in large
 east facing barns. Which they did. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, You will
 sink through all the many hells of the netherworld if you stop
 drinking the milk from the ONLY real cows, the King of vedic cows.
 Which they did. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, and the one who heard
 this started to laugh, and laugh, and the laughter cuaght on and soon
 half the town was rolling on the floor laughing. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, maybe we
 could sell laughter as a great vedic healing vibration, but show
 research that it only works if you start laughing at the right
 thing. Then we could sell the Vedic right thing. Which they did. 
 
 Then, after another swim in the Unified Field, someone said, I
 laughed using the right Vedic thing, and laughed on my own and well, I
 laughed just as hard. And THAT made me laugh even deeper and now I see
 the whole universe laughing with me. 
 
 Then, after trying to take another swim in the Unified Field, he saw
 that it was a Unified Field of Laughter. 


 
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread shempmcgurk
I did the exact same exercise for alt.meditation.transcendental about 
4 years ago and Judy came out #1 there, too.

Remember that, Judy?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 OK, having some free time this morning, I thought I'd pull a 
Barry. :)  
 So here's our latest poll, on who uses inflammatory language the 
most, 
 since that seems to be a hot topic lately (apart from flinging 
dung, of 
 course).  Now I'm not drawing any conclusions  one way or another, 
it's 
 just a topic of conversation.  We report, you decide. :)
 
 These are culled from all the posts made by these posters since 
they 
 started posting here:  Judy, Curtis, Barry, and, just for balance,  
 yours truly. :)
 
 # of posts with the word 'liar' in them:
 
 Judy: 137
 Curtis: 19
 Barry: 47
 Sal: 8
 
 # of posts with the word 'lying' in them:
 
 Judy: 188
 Curtis: 32
 Barry: 84
 Sal: 9
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrite' in them:
 
 Judy: 40
 Curtis: 9
 Barry: 19
 Sal: 6
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrisy' in them:
 
 Judy: 132
 Curtis: 10
 Barry: 29
 Sal: 8





[FairfieldLife] Re: Creepy Pictures

2007-05-06 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=21 
 is a cool one. Wonder how he did it.

No doubt, by making sure he was nowhere near any pretty girls wearing
cheap CA clothing.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Creepy Pictures

2007-05-06 Thread shempmcgurk


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder if Girish thinks people on FFL look creepy?


 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65


http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65?b=17m\
=to=0



Here's a photo of a sweet looking child, new.morning:



Nice-looking kid, huh?

Well, not so nice.  His name is Adolf Hitler and he's personally
responsible for up to 60 million deaths.  Creepiness is a
characteristic that seeps into a photo when one is in possession of more
than just the electrons coming into one's cornea from a photograph.

Girish is creepy because of what we know about him.  Sweet-looking guy
otherwise.



[FairfieldLife] Does anyone know how to do this photographic effect?

2007-05-06 Thread shempmcgurk
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=2

I've seen this effect on a lot of psychedelic posters from 
the '60s...anyone know how to do it?



[FairfieldLife] The Godfather of Climatology: global-warming fears absurd

2007-05-06 Thread shempmcgurk
http://www.wecnmagazine.com/2007issues/may/may07.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone know how to do this photographic effect?

2007-05-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=2
 
 I've seen this effect on a lot of psychedelic posters from 
 the '60s...anyone know how to do it?

Try posterize in Photoshop




[FairfieldLife] Re: Creepy Pictures

2007-05-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder if Girish thinks people on FFL look creepy? 
 
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65?
b=17m=to=0

Haha, Paul Mason wins that contest




Re: [FairfieldLife] Does anyone know how to do this photographic effect?

2007-05-06 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 6, 2007, at 1:46 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=2

I've seen this effect on a lot of psychedelic posters from
the '60s...anyone know how to do it?


Try the Glowing Edges filter in PS.

Sal


[FairfieldLife] Conference in NYC targets UN ambassadors and government leaders

2007-05-06 Thread george_deforest

For Immediate
Release


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[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread off_world_beings
Hi Sal, you forget to mention these gems of wisdom below from 
TurquoiseB for which he has never apologized and which at the time I 
found very offensive and disgusted by.
MUCH MUCH WORSE than anything Judy has EVER said. Admit it Sal, or 
are you a prejudiced born-again fanatic like Bush, Rice, Ashcroft 
and cronies.   
Admit it Sal, and stop siding with such disgusting people JUST 
because they gel with your own agenda. That is what Nazis do. Admit 
that this below IS FAR WORSE BY FAR than anything Judy has ever said 
here:

TurquoiseB referring to a poster he dislikes: 
I guess we all know who that was. Fuckin' retard.
82313

On the fact that he doesn't dominate the board with his long-winded 
monoloques: 
I think I speak for many people here in saying that all we're 
asking is for these three to CATCH A FUCKIN' CLUE and realize that 
what they are doing is socially unacceptable.
121753

Referring to a poster he disagrees with: 
All these years disappointed. So if I limit myself to the 
occasional cheap shot about her dried-up pussy, count yourself 
lucky.
81046

Referring to a poster he disagrees with: 
As for gone all cunty, well, that's definitely fair
and accurate, so carry on
112581



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 OK, having some free time this morning, I thought I'd pull a 
Barry. :)  
 So here's our latest poll, on who uses inflammatory language the 
most, 
 since that seems to be a hot topic lately (apart from flinging 
dung, of 
 course).  Now I'm not drawing any conclusions  one way or another, 
it's 
 just a topic of conversation.  We report, you decide. :)
 
 These are culled from all the posts made by these posters since 
they 
 started posting here:  Judy, Curtis, Barry, and, just for 
balance,  
 yours truly. :)
 
 # of posts with the word 'liar' in them:
 
 Judy: 137
 Curtis: 19
 Barry: 47
 Sal: 8
 
 # of posts with the word 'lying' in them:
 
 Judy: 188
 Curtis: 32
 Barry: 84
 Sal: 9
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrite' in them:
 
 Judy: 40
 Curtis: 9
 Barry: 19
 Sal: 6
 
 # of posts with the word 'hypocrisy' in them:
 
 Judy: 132
 Curtis: 10
 Barry: 29
 Sal: 8





RE: [FairfieldLife] Conference in NYC targets UN ambassadors and government leaders

2007-05-06 Thread Rick Archer
They have wisely refrained from putting photos of the rajas on the site,
even they the email refers to them by that title. I suspect that in the
actual conference, they'll be introduced by that title and wear their
crowns. Wonder if anyone will be there to see that spectacle?



[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On May 6, 2007, at 11:22 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
  Well, it's a good thing you aren't drawing any
  conclusions from this, Sal.
 
  You didn't actually *read the posts*, did you?
 
  Because if you had, you'd have discovered that by
  *far* the majority of my posts with the word liar
  in them, for example, are either quoting someone else
  using the word or defending somebody else from the
  charge of being a liar.
 
 I figured this would be your standard line of defense, Judy, since 
 taking any responsibility for your own words seems to be very 
 difficult.   Of course, many of the posts of the others I cited 
 (including my own) are simply quoting *you,*  which you 
conveniently 
 left out.

If you are going to call people on this Sal you should do it 
properly as I have done and put the post numbers with them. This is 
not accurate and totally false the way you did it.

This below is accurate:

TurquoiseB referring to a poster he dislikes: 
I guess we all know who that was. Fuckin' retard.
82313

On the fact that he doesn't dominate the board with his long-winded 
monoloques: 
I think I speak for many people here in saying that all we're 
asking is for these three to CATCH A FUCKIN' CLUE and realize that 
what they are doing is socially unacceptable.
121753

Referring to a poster he disagrees with: 
All these years disappointed. So if I limit myself to the 
occasional cheap shot about her dried-up pussy, count yourself 
lucky.
81046

Referring to a poster he disagrees with: 
As for gone all cunty, well, that's definitely fair
and accurate, so carry on
112581






[FairfieldLife] new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200 Hospitals!

2007-05-06 Thread george_deforest
this is just astonishing ...

from NY Times ad:

Investors are Invited to Consider our program 
of $2.6 Billion to build 200 unique Hospitals 
and $0.65 Billion to build 210 Invincible Schools 
in 37 countries with highest income per capita. 

Proposed Financing terms: 
15 year loan with 10% Interest.

source:  http://www.globalfinancialcapitalny.org/ad/  



[FairfieldLife] Re: Creepy Pictures

2007-05-06 Thread off_world_beings
In that picture of TurquoiseB I can't tell which one is him? Is it the 
one with the horn on his head, or the wacky looking one at the back, 
or the creepy looking old man in the foreground?

OffWorld.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder if Girish thinks people on FFL look creepy? 
 
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65?
b=17m=to=0





[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hi Sal, you forget to mention these gems of wisdom below from 
 TurquoiseB for which he has never apologized and which at the time 
 I found very offensive and disgusted by.
 MUCH MUCH WORSE than anything Judy has EVER said. Admit it Sal, or 
 are you a prejudiced born-again fanatic like Bush, Rice, Ashcroft 
 and cronies.   
 Admit it Sal, and stop siding with such disgusting people JUST 
 because they gel with your own agenda. That is what Nazis do.

(Comparing her to Bush et al. is one thing, but
don't trivialize the Nazis, please.)

 Admit 
 that this below IS FAR WORSE BY FAR than anything Judy has ever 
 said here:

And what you go on to list barely begins to
scratch the surface.



 
 TurquoiseB referring to a poster he dislikes: 
 I guess we all know who that was. Fuckin' retard.
 82313
 
 On the fact that he doesn't dominate the board with his long-winded 
 monoloques: 
 I think I speak for many people here in saying that all we're 
 asking is for these three to CATCH A FUCKIN' CLUE and realize that 
 what they are doing is socially unacceptable.
 121753
 
 Referring to a poster he disagrees with: 
 All these years disappointed. So if I limit myself to the 
 occasional cheap shot about her dried-up pussy, count yourself 
 lucky.
 81046
 
 Referring to a poster he disagrees with: 
 As for gone all cunty, well, that's definitely fair
 and accurate, so carry on
 112581




[FairfieldLife] Re: Creepy Pictures

2007-05-06 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  I wonder if Girish thinks people on FFL look creepy?
 
 
  http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65
 
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65?
b=17m\
 =to=0
 
 
 
 Here's a photo of a sweet looking child, new.morning:
 
 
 
 Nice-looking kid, huh?
 
 Well, not so nice.  His name is Adolf Hitler and he's personally
 responsible for up to 60 million deaths.  Creepiness is a
 characteristic that seeps into a photo when one is in possession 
of more
 than just the electrons coming into one's cornea from a photograph.
 
 Girish is creepy because of what we know about him.  Sweet-looking 
guy
 otherwise.


I think that is your idol GW Bush as a kid. As kids these two looked 
the same so it is hard to tell but they both end up the same self-
obsessed fanatical homocidal nutcases as adults.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Creepy Pictures

2007-05-06 Thread off_world_beings
In that picture of TurquoiseB I can't tell which one is him? Is it the
one with the horn on his head, or the wacky looking one at the back,
or the creepy looking old man in the foreground?


http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=16


OffWorld.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder if Girish thinks people on FFL look creepy? 
 
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65
 
 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/browse/4c65?
b=17m=to=0





[FairfieldLife] Re: A new poll

2007-05-06 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  Hi Sal, you forget to mention these gems of wisdom below from 
  TurquoiseB for which he has never apologized and which at the 
time 
  I found very offensive and disgusted by.
  MUCH MUCH WORSE than anything Judy has EVER said. Admit it Sal, 
or 
  are you a prejudiced born-again fanatic like Bush, Rice, 
Ashcroft 
  and cronies.   
  Admit it Sal, and stop siding with such disgusting people JUST 
  because they gel with your own agenda. That is what Nazis do.
 
 (Comparing her to Bush et al. is one thing, but
 don't trivialize the Nazis, please.)

Bush is a Nazi, and people who slander people, but ignore their own 
sides disgusting behaviour (as for example, Rick has done many 
times) and like Sal here just to strengthen their fanatical agenda 
is what Nazis do.


  Admit 
  that this below IS FAR WORSE BY FAR than anything Judy has ever 
  said here:
 
 And what you go on to list barely begins to
 scratch the surface.

I know, this was 5 minutes research. I don't have the patience to do 
the rest, it would take hours to collect them all.

OffWorld


 
 
  
  TurquoiseB referring to a poster he dislikes: 
  I guess we all know who that was. Fuckin' retard.
  82313
  
  On the fact that he doesn't dominate the board with his long-
winded 
  monoloques: 
  I think I speak for many people here in saying that all we're 
  asking is for these three to CATCH A FUCKIN' CLUE and realize 
that 
  what they are doing is socially unacceptable.
  121753
  
  Referring to a poster he disagrees with: 
  All these years disappointed. So if I limit myself to the 
  occasional cheap shot about her dried-up pussy, count yourself 
  lucky.
  81046
  
  Referring to a poster he disagrees with: 
  As for gone all cunty, well, that's definitely fair
  and accurate, so carry on
  112581





[FairfieldLife] Scientific Verification of Vedic Knowledge - video

2007-05-06 Thread claudiouk
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7678538942425297587q=vedic




[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

2007-05-06 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
  the joy of drinking...
  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html
 


 The reality of drinking...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgiZp3LDRNg


**

As Turq B said in this thread:

In the absence of technologies such as meditation,
bars are where humans go to shift their state of
attention. Most of the humans on this planet are
unaware of technologies such as meditation. There-
fore, in my book, bars are interesting. That's
where you would go if you were a seeker who had
found no other way to shift your state of attention.
*
It's no good to just say no to alcohol and other drugs because 
people have needs that they will seek to meet. I quit alc after a few 
months of TM because that need to reduce anxiety was met by TM, and 
this is the usual response to consistent practice of TM, verified by 
studies of reduction of drug use by TMers (although I do know long-
time TMers who are still into sauce or pot or whatever, but they are 
the rare exceptions).

Bob



[FairfieldLife] Re: Conference in NYC targets UN ambassadors and government leaders

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They have wisely refrained from putting photos of the rajas on the 
site,
 even they the email refers to them by that title. I suspect that in 
the
 actual conference, they'll be introduced by that title and wear their
 crowns. Wonder if anyone will be there to see that spectacle?

What an ego smasher that must be for the rajas, and for those seeing 
them. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 5/6/07 5:46:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

2) an  outspoken 
distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
ship back  where they came from if he can.



Thank God! I wish him well.



** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


[FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200 Hospitals!

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 this is just astonishing ...
 
 from NY Times ad:
 
 Investors are Invited to Consider our program 
 of $2.6 Billion to build 200 unique Hospitals 
 and $0.65 Billion to build 210 Invincible Schools 
 in 37 countries with highest income per capita. 
 
 Proposed Financing terms: 
 15 year loan with 10% Interest.
 
 source:  http://www.globalfinancialcapitalny.org/ad/

Pretty amazing just the scope of the project. Some idealistic 
billionaire ought to take them up on it. And its a decent rate of 
return, so why not? The TMO would have to come through without 
playing shell games with the money, or else the billionaire would 
put contracts out on them, or have an army of lawyers after the TMO 
for decades to come. This call for funding these projects has been 
going on for a few years now, and its hard to believe no one has 
invested a cent. That being the case, we'd have heard by now if the 
TMO was defaulting on paying its investors the contractual returns.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 5/6/07 5:46:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 2) an  outspoken 
 distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
 ship back  where they came from if he can.
 
 
 
 Thank God! I wish him well.
 

According to http://tinyurl.com/2dmeer
The DIXON name supposedly originates from DICKSON which has its 
origins in the Scottish Borders.

We'll be looking for you on the outward bound boat too.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvana

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   the joy of drinking...
   http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/books/review/Harris.t.html
  
  Many thanks for this, Bob. Such a funny, well-
  written review makes me want to order the book.
  
  The Bar is certainly a source of fascination. 

 Around about 1978 (+-) there was this rare Yogi who visited 
 Seelisberg. Almost every night Maharishi let him lecture in the 
Main 
 Assembly Hall. All he would talk about was unity in all it's 
facets. 
 Evening after evening. Unity, unity, unity and the need for 
seclusion 
 to reach that state. 
 Nothing wrong with that, the Yogi, who's name I no longer recall, 
was 
 obviously firmly established in that state.
 One day Maharishi told his secretary to take the fellow on a trip 
to 
 Lucern. And he was rather surprized to suddenly find himself in a 
 well known bar in that city where the secretary insisted they 
should 
 spend quite some time.
 When the Yogi's time in Seelisberg was up and he was going home to 
 India someone asked him how his stay had been. Marvelous he said, 
 then he declared that Maharishi is a generous and great 
Mahapurusha. 
 But, he said, Maharishis secretaries are rather strange !
 
 The lesson ? Perhaps the Yogi needed to grow into Brahman, to 
 experience that he was in fact everything, including bars and 
their 
 inhabitants.
 
 Would Maharishi denounce brothels ? Me think not.

Enjoyed this rememberance from you, and illustrating the difference 
between UC and Brahman.



[FairfieldLife] Vedic Agriculture Will Utilize the Chemistry of Sound

2007-05-06 Thread george_deforest

For Immediate Release
May 7, 2007

Contact: Steven Yellin
641-470-1344
  [GLOBAL FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF NEW YORK]  http://gfcny.net
70 Broad Street, New York, NY 10004 • 212-809-7000 (T) •
212-809-7001 (F) • [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PRESS RELEASE
Report on the Global Conference on Organic Agriculture

New Unified Field-Based Approach to Organic Agriculture
Will Bring Wealth to Poor Nations and Health to Wealthy Nations

Will Utilize the Chemistry of Sound to Enliven Total Natural
Law
in Plants to Produce Maximally Nutritious Food

(NEW YORK) The world's poor nations will become wealthier and the
wealthy nations will become healthier as a new Unified
Field-based approach to organic agriculture is adopted throughout
the world.

Such a revolutionary new approach will utilize the chemistry of
sound to enliven the Unified Field—Total Natural Law—in
every plant to yield organic food that is maximally nutritious and
life-supporting for the whole population.

This was the extraordinary message delivered by Dr. John Hagelin,
world-renowned quantum physicist and executive director of the
International Center for Invincible Defense in New York City, and Dr.
John Konhaus, professor of Vedic Organic Agriculture at the University
of World Peace in Meru, Holland, during the Global Conference on
Organic Agriculture. The conference was held recently at the Global
Financial Capital of New York, 70 Broad Street, and was broadcast
internationally via satellite and Internet webcast. (See
www.GlobalFinancialCapitalNY.org
http://www.GlobalFinancialCapitalNY.org  for a replay of the
conference and a schedule of upcoming conferences.)

Profound difference between conventional organic and
Unified Field-based organic agriculture

Dr. Hagelin explained the profound difference between conventional
organic agriculture, which raises plants without toxic chemicals,
pesticides, and fertilizers, and Unified Field-based organic
agriculture. Unified Field-based agriculture raises current organic
standards to an entirely new level of purity and nutritional potency to
produce maximum health-supporting benefits for the consumer—such as
balanced physiological functioning, total brain functioning, and higher
states of consciousness.

The physics of Unified Field-based organic agriculture

Dr. Hagelin said that to understand Unified Field-based organic
agriculture—and its power to transform the nutritional potency of a
plant—requires an understanding of the Unified Field, which is the
unified source of the diversified universe as brought to light by modern
physics.

According to Superstring theories, all the elementary particles,
such as the electron, and all the forces, such as the photon of
electromagnetism, are just the stable vibrational modes (energy
eigenstates) of the Superstring. This also is true of atoms, molecules,
and indeed of any stable object, whether microscopic or
macroscopic, Dr. Hagelin said.

The mechanics of transformation of one particle into another, or
one chemical compound into another, is always through the application of
sound. For example, to transform sugar into water, you add oxygen. To
transform a diseased state of the physiology into a healthy state, you
add herbs or pharmaceuticals. But ultimately, all such particles and
compounds are just sounds—vibrational modes of the Unified Field.
This is the `chemistry of sound,' through which you can
transform anything into anything, he said.

Unified Field-based organic agriculture is the modern
scientific reformulation of the ancient Vedic science of agriculture

Dr. Hagelin said that Unified Field-based organic agriculture is the
modern scientific reformulation of the ancient Vedic science of organic
agriculture—as brought to light by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

Vedic science is the complete science of the Unified Field,
including all of its vibrational modes—or Vedic sounds. These Vedic
sounds can be applied to transform anything into anything—including,
in agriculture, transforming growing plants into exceptionally healthy,
nutritious crops, Dr. Hagelin said.

During key developmental stages of a maturing plant, the plant is
highly sensitive to environmental influences. During these stages, Vedic
organic agriculture utilizes specific Vedic sounds to ensure the proper
development of the plant, including its precise protein sequences, to
produce a maximum life-supporting benefit for the consumer.

Global Financial Capital of New York offers governments
programs in Unified Field-based organic agriculture

Prof. John Konhaus explained the depth and scope of the programs of
Unified Field-based organic agriculture that are being offered by the
Global Financial Capital of New York. Prof. Konhaus said the programs
will:

1. Develop the full potential of the farmer and his relationship with
Natural Lawthrough Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation and
TM-Sidhi program, including Yogic Flying, which brings the support of
Nature to the farmer and promotes balance in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200 Hospitals!

2007-05-06 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
 george.deforest@ wrote:
 
  this is just astonishing ...
  
  from NY Times ad:
  
  Investors are Invited to Consider our program 
  of $2.6 Billion to build 200 unique Hospitals 
  and $0.65 Billion to build 210 Invincible Schools 
  in 37 countries with highest income per capita. 
  
  Proposed Financing terms: 
  15 year loan with 10% Interest.
  
  source:  http://www.globalfinancialcapitalny.org/ad/
 
 Pretty amazing just the scope of the project. Some idealistic 
 billionaire ought to take them up on it. And its a decent rate of 
 return, so why not? The TMO would have to come through without 
 playing shell games with the money, or else the billionaire would 
 put contracts out on them, or have an army of lawyers after the TMO 
 for decades to come. This call for funding these projects has been 
 going on for a few years now, and its hard to believe no one has 
 invested a cent. 

Generally speaking billionaires aren't complete idiots businesswise
(or at least their advisors aren't) which is why no-one will ever take
them up on these ludicrous ideas.






Re: [FairfieldLife] The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 We'll know tonight how the French feel about the
 world and their place in it. Approximately 90% of
 them are expected to vote today -- compare that to
 the voting rates in the U.S.

 However, at this point the polls are saying that
 Sarko has the lion's share, and that's a sad thing,
 in my opinion. Sarko is a mini-me version of George
 W. Bush. He's smarter, and much more polished, but
 his fake compassionate conservatism lacks compas-
 sion, and he tends towards 1) violence towards those
 who don't share his views (he has a history of this
 in his time as a minister) and 2) an outspoken 
 distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
 ship back where they came from if he can.

 Segolene Royal is, in contrast, a remarkably 
 balanced politician, one who manages to juggle
 practical economic reforms with compassion and
 social programs that benefit *all* of the people,
 not just the rich ones.

 We'll see who the French identify with more, tonight.
 I think it would be a giant step backwards if Sarko
 wins, but there you jolly well are, aren't you? One
 of the biggest issues facing this planet is immi-
 gration and how to handle it gracefully, and the
 tendency one sees in country after country is towards
 reactionary, protective thinking, and handling it
 rather ungracefully. 

 Bon chance, France. Not being able to vote in your
 election, I lift my glass to you from the South and
 wish you well -- both in your choices in the voting
 booths, and your karmas as a result of making them.
Paper ballot I assume or electronic voting (without paper trail)?   The 
latter as we well know in the US can be easily rigged.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We'll know tonight how the French feel about the
 world and their place in it. Approximately 90% of
 them are expected to vote today -- compare that to
 the voting rates in the U.S.
 
 However, at this point the polls are saying that
 Sarko has the lion's share, and that's a sad thing,
 in my opinion. Sarko is a mini-me version of George
 W. Bush. He's smarter, and much more polished, but
 his fake compassionate conservatism lacks compas-
 sion, and he tends towards 1) violence towards those
 who don't share his views (he has a history of this
 in his time as a minister) and 

2) an outspoken 
 distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
 ship back where they came from if he can.
 

*


An amusing stance for a guy whose father, Pál nagybócsai Sárközy, 
emigrated to France from Hungary... 
http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/33251.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread Bhairitu
Bhairitu wrote:
 TurquoiseB wrote:
   
 We'll know tonight how the French feel about the
 world and their place in it. Approximately 90% of
 them are expected to vote today -- compare that to
 the voting rates in the U.S.

 However, at this point the polls are saying that
 Sarko has the lion's share, and that's a sad thing,
 in my opinion. Sarko is a mini-me version of George
 W. Bush. He's smarter, and much more polished, but
 his fake compassionate conservatism lacks compas-
 sion, and he tends towards 1) violence towards those
 who don't share his views (he has a history of this
 in his time as a minister) and 2) an outspoken 
 distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
 ship back where they came from if he can.

 Segolene Royal is, in contrast, a remarkably 
 balanced politician, one who manages to juggle
 practical economic reforms with compassion and
 social programs that benefit *all* of the people,
 not just the rich ones.

 We'll see who the French identify with more, tonight.
 I think it would be a giant step backwards if Sarko
 wins, but there you jolly well are, aren't you? One
 of the biggest issues facing this planet is immi-
 gration and how to handle it gracefully, and the
 tendency one sees in country after country is towards
 reactionary, protective thinking, and handling it
 rather ungracefully. 

 Bon chance, France. Not being able to vote in your
 election, I lift my glass to you from the South and
 wish you well -- both in your choices in the voting
 booths, and your karmas as a result of making them.
 
 Paper ballot I assume or electronic voting (without paper trail)?   The 
 latter as we well know in the US can be easily rigged.
Yup, must've been rigged.  Really backward for the French:
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Sarkozy_sweeps_to_French_presidenti_05062007.html
Fuck the right wing.



[FairfieldLife] haha, moonlighting rajas??

2007-05-06 Thread george_deforest

video link: Burger King Safety Dance
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=76\
9969399

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=769\
969399





[FairfieldLife] Re: The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2) an outspoken 
  distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
  ship back where they came from if he can.
  

Does that include recently arrived americans?





[FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200 Hospitals!

2007-05-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
 george.deforest@ wrote:
 
  this is just astonishing ...
  
  from NY Times ad:
  
  Investors are Invited to Consider our program 
  of $2.6 Billion to build 200 unique Hospitals 
  and $0.65 Billion to build 210 Invincible Schools 
  in 37 countries with highest income per capita. 
  
  Proposed Financing terms: 
  15 year loan with 10% Interest.
  
  source:  http://www.globalfinancialcapitalny.org/ad/
 
 Pretty amazing just the scope of the project. Some idealistic 
 billionaire ought to take them up on it. And its a decent rate of 
 return, so why not? The TMO would have to come through without 
 playing shell games with the money, or else the billionaire would 
 put contracts out on them, or have an army of lawyers after the TMO 
 for decades to come. This call for funding these projects has been 
 going on for a few years now, and its hard to believe no one has 
 invested a cent. That being the case, we'd have heard by now if the 
 TMO was defaulting on paying its investors the contractual returns.



Companies (and governments for that matter) get bond ratings.  I 
wonder if the TMO has a bond rating?  Anyone know?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Agriculture Will Utilize the Chemistry of Sound

2007-05-06 Thread shempmcgurk
All I can tell you is that when I eat the meals at the local Hari 
Krishna temple, my experience is one of transcendence and a 
wholesomeness and a contentment I don't get with food I eat anywhere 
else.  All meals that they prepare are chanted over and first offered 
to Krishna before it is served.

So I'll be the first to say that there's probably something to all 
this sound business.






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 For Immediate Release
 May 7, 2007
 
 Contact: Steven Yellin
 641-470-1344
   [GLOBAL FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF NEW YORK]  http://gfcny.net
 70 Broad Street, New York, NY 10004 • 212-809-7000 (T) •
 212-809-7001 (F) • [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 PRESS RELEASE
 Report on the Global Conference on Organic Agriculture
 
 New Unified Field-Based Approach to Organic Agriculture
 Will Bring Wealth to Poor Nations and Health to Wealthy Nations
 
 Will Utilize the Chemistry of Sound to Enliven Total Natural
 Law
 in Plants to Produce Maximally Nutritious Food
 
 (NEW YORK) The world's poor nations will become wealthier and the
 wealthy nations will become healthier as a new Unified
 Field-based approach to organic agriculture is adopted throughout
 the world.
 
 Such a revolutionary new approach will utilize the chemistry of
 sound to enliven the Unified Field—Total Natural Law—in
 every plant to yield organic food that is maximally nutritious and
 life-supporting for the whole population.
 
 This was the extraordinary message delivered by Dr. John Hagelin,
 world-renowned quantum physicist and executive director of the
 International Center for Invincible Defense in New York City, and 
Dr.
 John Konhaus, professor of Vedic Organic Agriculture at the 
University
 of World Peace in Meru, Holland, during the Global Conference on
 Organic Agriculture. The conference was held recently at the Global
 Financial Capital of New York, 70 Broad Street, and was broadcast
 internationally via satellite and Internet webcast. (See
 www.GlobalFinancialCapitalNY.org
 http://www.GlobalFinancialCapitalNY.org  for a replay of the
 conference and a schedule of upcoming conferences.)
 
 Profound difference between conventional organic and
 Unified Field-based organic agriculture
 
 Dr. Hagelin explained the profound difference between conventional
 organic agriculture, which raises plants without toxic chemicals,
 pesticides, and fertilizers, and Unified Field-based organic
 agriculture. Unified Field-based agriculture raises current organic
 standards to an entirely new level of purity and nutritional 
potency to
 produce maximum health-supporting benefits for the consumer—such as
 balanced physiological functioning, total brain functioning, and 
higher
 states of consciousness.
 
 The physics of Unified Field-based organic agriculture
 
 Dr. Hagelin said that to understand Unified Field-based organic
 agriculture—and its power to transform the nutritional potency of a
 plant—requires an understanding of the Unified Field, which is the
 unified source of the diversified universe as brought to light by 
modern
 physics.
 
 According to Superstring theories, all the elementary particles,
 such as the electron, and all the forces, such as the photon of
 electromagnetism, are just the stable vibrational modes (energy
 eigenstates) of the Superstring. This also is true of atoms, 
molecules,
 and indeed of any stable object, whether microscopic or
 macroscopic, Dr. Hagelin said.
 
 The mechanics of transformation of one particle into another, or
 one chemical compound into another, is always through the 
application of
 sound. For example, to transform sugar into water, you add oxygen. 
To
 transform a diseased state of the physiology into a healthy state, 
you
 add herbs or pharmaceuticals. But ultimately, all such particles and
 compounds are just sounds—vibrational modes of the Unified Field.
 This is the `chemistry of sound,' through which you can
 transform anything into anything, he said.
 
 Unified Field-based organic agriculture is the modern
 scientific reformulation of the ancient Vedic science of agriculture
 
 Dr. Hagelin said that Unified Field-based organic agriculture is the
 modern scientific reformulation of the ancient Vedic science of 
organic
 agriculture—as brought to light by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
 
 Vedic science is the complete science of the Unified Field,
 including all of its vibrational modes—or Vedic sounds. These Vedic
 sounds can be applied to transform anything into anything—including,
 in agriculture, transforming growing plants into exceptionally 
healthy,
 nutritious crops, Dr. Hagelin said.
 
 During key developmental stages of a maturing plant, the plant is
 highly sensitive to environmental influences. During these stages, 
Vedic
 organic agriculture utilizes specific Vedic sounds to ensure the 
proper
 development of the plant, including its precise protein sequences, 
to
 produce a maximum life-supporting benefit for the consumer.
 
 Global 

[FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200 Hospitals!

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
  george.deforest@ wrote:
  
   this is just astonishing ...
   
   from NY Times ad:
   
   Investors are Invited to Consider our program 
   of $2.6 Billion to build 200 unique Hospitals 
   and $0.65 Billion to build 210 Invincible Schools 
   in 37 countries with highest income per capita. 
   
   Proposed Financing terms: 
   15 year loan with 10% Interest.
   
   source:  http://www.globalfinancialcapitalny.org/ad/
  
  Pretty amazing just the scope of the project. Some idealistic 
  billionaire ought to take them up on it. And its a decent rate 
of 
  return, so why not? The TMO would have to come through without 
  playing shell games with the money, or else the billionaire 
would 
  put contracts out on them, or have an army of lawyers after the 
TMO 
  for decades to come. This call for funding these projects has 
been 
  going on for a few years now, and its hard to believe no one has 
  invested a cent. 
 
 Generally speaking billionaires aren't complete idiots businesswise
 (or at least their advisors aren't) which is why no-one will ever 
take
 them up on these ludicrous ideas.

ten percent is pretty good for a bond return.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Agriculture Will Utilize the Chemistry of Sound

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 All I can tell you is that when I eat the meals at the local Hari 
 Krishna temple, my experience is one of transcendence and a 
 wholesomeness and a contentment I don't get with food I eat anywhere 
 else.  All meals that they prepare are chanted over and first 
offered 
 to Krishna before it is served.
 
 So I'll be the first to say that there's probably something to all 
 this sound business.
 
 
muzak in supermarkets and stores influencing us to buy more, and my 
internal, automatic reaction to a crying baby come to mind. This is 
not rocket science...



Re: [FairfieldLife] The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread Sal Sunshine

TurquoiseB wrote:


We'll know tonight how the French feel about the
world and their place in it. Approximately 90% of
them are expected to vote today -- compare that to
the voting rates in the U.S.

However, at this point the polls are saying that
Sarko has the lion's share, and that's a sad thing,
in my opinion. Sarko is a mini-me version of George
W. Bush. He's smarter, and much more polished, but
his fake compassionate conservatism lacks compas-
sion, and he tends towards 1) violence towards those
who don't share his views (he has a history of this
in his time as a minister) and 2) an outspoken
distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to
ship back where they came from if he can.

Segolene Royal is, in contrast, a remarkably
balanced politician, one who manages to juggle
practical economic reforms with compassion and
social programs that benefit *all* of the people,
not just the rich ones.

We'll see who the French identify with more, tonight.
I think it would be a giant step backwards if Sarko
wins, but there you jolly well are, aren't you?


WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Christopher Dickey
Newsweek
Updated: 1:08 p.m. CT May 6, 2007

May 6, 2007 - Does France's new president speak American? Sure looks 
that way. Conservative Nicolas Sarkozy has defeated his Socialist Party 
rival, Ségolène Royal, by a margin of 53 percent to 47 percent. Royal, 
the first woman ever to come this close to the French presidency, 
conceded within minutes. So now the man set to govern the oldest (and 
arguably the most temperamental) ally of the United States for the next 
five years is someone whose message will be easy to translate: lower 
taxes, harder work for more money, greater consumption as the key to 
more employment and ever tougher measures against criminals and 
terrorists.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18519993/site/newsweek/


RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200 Hospitals!

2007-05-06 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jim_flanegin
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:37 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200
Hospitals!

 Generally speaking billionaires aren't complete idiots businesswise
 (or at least their advisors aren't) which is why no-one will ever 
take
 them up on these ludicrous ideas.

ten percent is pretty good for a bond return.

Yes, and it's backed by the Raam, so there's no risk.



[FairfieldLife] Quiet Zone Update, report on recent meeting

2007-05-06 Thread Rick Archer
Dear Friend Supporters,  (sorry this took so long to get out-we are
fielding lots of questions about the meeting last weekend)

The Fairfield City Council Safety Committee voted 2 to1 in favor of a very
strong and positive resolution to immediately form an Ad Hoc Committee to
consolidate and verify the necessary information and steps to create a Quiet
Zone for Fairfield. The resolution will be will be presented to the full
City Council on Monday May 14th.  We will need people to be at that meeting
as well as there are some on the council who are not yet fully supporting
the project. 

 

Congratulations-with your help we have raised about $60,000 to help fund the
improvements for a Quiet Zone. This was an important benchmark.  Right
afterwards we held our first very successful formal meeting last weekend
with the Fairfield City Council Safety Committee at City Hall. Over100
people who attended the meeting were all in support of a quiet Zone.  The
attendance and contributions made were instrumental in achieving our first
step, meeting our April goals and getting this resolution on the floor and
passed.  

 

FYI-what is still needed are tighter estimates of the final cost of the
project and engineering challenges, and an updated crossing by crossing
analysis.  We are told that later there will be public hearings on how each
crossing will be affected by a quiet zone. This committee would be made of
both members of the community and interested members of the City Council.  

 

We have made a great leap forward to have a Fairfield Quiet Zone no later
than New Year's Eve 2007. Yet we still have to do more to begin raising the
second half of the cost, estimated to be about an additional $50,000 to
$60,000 more, and receive those generous pledges that have been made. This
was a huge step forward so please continue to contribute. The closer we get
to the estimated cost, of $12 for the improvement the stronger our
chances are for success.

Make Tax Deductible Contributions to ALF-Fairfield Train Safety  Quiet
Zone,
PO Box 2302, Fairfield, Iowa 52556.
http://www.fairfieldquietzone.org/ www.fairfieldquietzone.org  Bill
Blackmore  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  919-1118

Thanks

Bill



Re: [FairfieldLife] The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 5/6/07 6:00:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paper  ballot I assume or electronic voting (without paper trail)? The 
latter as  we well know in the US can be easily rigged.



And the paper ballot can't be rigged?



** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting

2007-05-06 Thread Buggy
Hi, yes this program did read your lol as just that almost like a name lola 
but missing the a sound. Earlier email I typed IMO so it read it as I-M-O and 
my brain interpreted it as in my opinion. It will read abbreviations as lets 
to me then I figure out their meaning.

The biggest issue is the spell checker if I am typing and mean to type this 
and it forgets the t then it reads it as his which is a word in the 
dictionary so at times it can make me sound like I cannot speak English lol I 
had a gentlemen yesterday tell me to get lost cause they wanted English 
speakers on their group and unfortunately I had to inform the close minded nit 
of my situation and the issues I am learning to deal with on this program. So 
truly my apologies to any of you this frustrates all I can say is hit delete:)

If you all want to learn more about this program its called Jaws and can be 
found at http://www.freedomescientific.com and if you have questions I will 
answer them as best as I can. All pc's come with a accessibility feature and 
voice synthesizer under accessories its similar to the JAWS program just not as 
advanced.

Thanks for the welcome.

Bug
  - Original Message - 
  From: TurquoiseB 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 8:13 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thursday's Overposting


  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Buggy, if you're the shay type, keep your whip handy. 
   There's highwaymen, yapping dogs, and saints here, so 
   you've been warned.

  LOL. 

  Welcome, Buggy. By the way, how did your software
  translate the word before I said, Welcome, Buggy? 
  I spelled out the letters L, O, and L, which is a 
  well-known Internet acronym for Laughing Out Loud. 
  I really would be interested in learning how your 
  software reads it, and tries to pronounce it 
  aloud. Heck, I'd be interested in hearing more 
  about the software, period. 

  [ Note to Rick: It might be nice to repost the 
  monthly FAQ about common FFL acronyms, so that
  Bug could let us know which ones are pronounced
  in an understandable way and which are not. ]

  What I am laughing out loud about, Bug, is Edg's 
  description of Fairfield Life. Ne pretty much 
  nails it. This forum really is a strange and 
  interesting amalgam of yapping highwayman saints, 
  a kind of cyberspace Mos Eisley Cantina. Welcome. 
  Pull up a stool and tell us a little about yourself, 
  and what drew you here.

  Oh...one more thing. Let the Wookie win.

  :-)

  [ Smiley face above, to indicate attempted humor. 
  How did the software pronounce that? Did it laugh? ]



   


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 5/6/07 5:17:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

2) an  outspoken 
 distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
  ship back where they came from if he can.
 
 
 
  Thank God! I wish him well.
 

According to _http://tinyurl.http://tin_ (http://tinyurl.com/2dmeer) 
The  DIXON name supposedly originates from DICKSON which has its 
origins in the  Scottish Borders.

We'll be looking for you on the outward bound boat  too.



N, family been here too long, since 1640. However, I've considered what  
it would be like to return to my ancestral homeland but there are too many  
Muslims there now. They can have it.



** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


[FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200 Hospitals!

2007-05-06 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of jim_flanegin
 Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:37 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites 
Investors for 200
 Hospitals!
 
  Generally speaking billionaires aren't complete idiots 
businesswise
  (or at least their advisors aren't) which is why no-one will ever 
 take
  them up on these ludicrous ideas.
 
 ten percent is pretty good for a bond return.
 


 Yes, and it's backed by the Raam, so there's no risk.



***

Good news for S-land, tho -- the UK is slated for 8 schools and 10 
hospitals:

http://www.globalfinancialcapitalny.org/ad/spreadsheet.html

Note the footnote at the bottom of the right (hospital) section:
 
*This includes the most

Boy, sure instills a lot of confidence in these enormous projects 
when they can't even proofread a spreadsheet...



[FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites Investors for 200 Hospitals!

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of jim_flanegin
 Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:37 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: new plan: NY Times ad invites 
Investors for 200
 Hospitals!
 
  Generally speaking billionaires aren't complete idiots 
businesswise
  (or at least their advisors aren't) which is why no-one will 
ever 
 take
  them up on these ludicrous ideas.
 
 ten percent is pretty good for a bond return.
 
 Yes, and it's backed by the Raam, so there's no risk.

It would be interesting to read the prospectus...




[FairfieldLife] Re: The French Election

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 5/6/07 5:17:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 2) an  outspoken 
  distaste for immigrants, many of whom he plans to 
   ship back where they came from if he can.
  
  
  
   Thank God! I wish him well.
  
 
 According to _http://tinyurl.http://tin_ 
(http://tinyurl.com/2dmeer) 
 The  DIXON name supposedly originates from DICKSON which has its 
 origins in the  Scottish Borders.
 
 We'll be looking for you on the outward bound boat  too.
 
 
 
 N, family been here too long, since 1640. However, I've 
considered what  
 it would be like to return to my ancestral homeland but there are 
too many  
 Muslims there now. They can have it.
 
My daughter-in-law's dad is american indian and he'd still want to 
throw your ass out, back to scotland. On the boat with ya, newbie.



[FairfieldLife] Re: haha, moonlighting rajas??

2007-05-06 Thread off_world_beings
ROFL !

Thanks!

OffWorld
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 video link: Burger King Safety Dance
 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=76\
 9969399
 
 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=769\
 969399





[FairfieldLife] Re: Surfing Sitges

2007-05-06 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Just for the fun of it, here are a few of the things 
 that caught my attention this weekend walking the 
 streets of this Spanish beach town.
 
 * Music Of The Street Kind. I'm a fan of buskers, 
 musicians who play on the streets and who not only
 make a living doing what they love to do, they seem
 to have *fun* doing it. I kinda judge any new town
 by the quality of its street musicians. Well, lemme
 tell you, Sitges rocks. In the courtyard of the 
 Palau Maricel there is a guitarist obviously well
 trained in classical guitar, Flamenco, and jazz,
 and he adds chops of his own to create a dreamy 
 soundscape that just sucks you in, and is very
 appropriate when standing in front of a 15th century
 Spanish palace. Just up the street you find a guy
 and a gal playing some kind of Swiss metal drum 
 thingy that I've never seen before, but which produces 
 a rather heavenly percussion sound. It sounds a little 
 like what might happen if your steel drum got loose one
 night and mated with a marimba and these drums were 
 their kids. Really sweet guy and gal, improvising 100% 
 of their performance, just bouncing off of each other 
 musically, having a ball. It was difficult for me not 
 to have a ball along with them. 
 
 * Weird Events Out Of The Blue. So I'm walking down 
 at the south end of the beach last night around 
 sunset, and I notice a small crowd milling around,
 looking out over the beach wall at the little quai 
 that juts out into the ocean at that point. Curious, 
 I walked up and damned if it's not a swimsuit model
 photo session in progress. I have to tell you, Edg,
 I almost got over my inhibitions about the word God 
 and thanked Him right there. :-) *Very* entertaining.
 It was a crew from American Vogue, as far as I could
 tell, and they were really doing it up, with four or
 five photographers working with ten or twelve...uh...
 Major Fashion Magazine Swimsuit Models. I don't think
 I have ever seen more walking tributes to the plastic
 surgeon's and personal trainers' art in one place in 
 my life. And it was entertaining to watch the Spanish 
 guys and gals oggling this whole scene, too. They 
 seemed as amused by it as I was. 
 
 * Clothing Experiments Of The Deeply Disturbed. This
 is a beach town known for its liberal attitudes and
 its all-night nightclubs. Just walking down the street
 you can see someone walk by wearing ten-inch high heels,
 a Borat-inspired bathing suit, and a pink feather boa. 
 And that's just the guys. (Just kidding, but only partly, 
 because Sitges *is* a big gay mecca.) It's not really 
 *that* over the top or flamboyant, but there is an 
 amazingly wide range of creative fashion to be seen 
 and dazzled by. Later last night I ran into the models
 from the photo shoot coming out of a restaurant, and
 boy! were they Dressed To Disco. I'll bet a few Spanish
 guys had their hearts broken last night, or at the 
 very least had their standards raised.
 
 * The Smells. Sitges is a fairly small town that continas
 well over a hundred restaurants. Every one I've tried is
 not just good, but excellent. You walk by their outdoor
 terraces and the smells from each restaurant vie for your
 affections and for your Euros. You turn the corner and
 this aroma hits your nose, and you can't for the life of
 you identify all of its ingredients, but it smalls *really*
 good, and you know that you're a goner, and if you don't
 stop and eat there today, you will someday soon. 
 
 * The Touchy-Feely Spanish. You might get the impression
 from watching French movies and all those bissous (cheek
 kisses) that the French are into touching each other a 
 lot in public. Au contraire, Pierre. It's almost the 
 opposite. The French ckeek kisses are very chaste and
 formal, whereas the Spanish cheek kisses might just get
 you a Wet Willie. The Spanish exchange kisses as well,
 both men and women, but they're more real kisses and
 they supplement them with lots of hugs and hand-holding.
 It's kinda neat to see after three years in France. The
 tendency to touch and stroke and hug a lot extends to
 their children, and I'd bet that Spanish kids grow up
 pretty happy and fairly well adjusted as a result.
 
 * The CD and DVD Counterfeiters. They're everywhere. 
 You'll be walking along a street and look down and this
 young guy has a plastic sheet covered with CDs and DVDs.
 Curious, you stop to look at them and they're the 
 *latest* CDs and DVDs, the ones just now appearing in
 stores or in theaters. They have covers, printed disk
 labels, the whole bit. Counerfeits, but quality counter-
 feits. The CDs sell for 2 Euros, the DVDs five. And 
 when a cop appears in the distance, the guy just whips 
 up the strings attached to the corners of his plastic 
 sheet and, like that... (insert Kevin Spacey gesture 
 at the end of The Usual Suspects here)...he's gone. 
 
 * The Sidewalk Bars and Cafes. To Die For. The 

[FairfieldLife] Medical Practitioners Among Us

2007-05-06 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really -- It's A No-Brainer.

Occasionally there are matters about the body or psychology that more often
than not only a medical practitioner can answer.  I welcome learning who
among us are in the medical profession who can assist in answering simple
questions about the body and psychology for yoga students.  All
communication can be done privately, as some questions are a bit too
intimate to be discussed openly.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

*Never turn down an opportunity of satya.  Make every thought, word and
deed, indeed every breath a conjugation of love with the Sublime in all its
forms. *


[FairfieldLife] Feeding the world with organic agriculture

2007-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
just like MMY predicted. I guess he IS right once in awhile, eh?

http://tinyurl.com/ywdbob




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ever wonder where the prudery in the TMO came from?

2007-05-06 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jason Spock wrote:   
  Tell us something about Tien Tai.
 
 Tian Tai is Buddhist Madyamika, which postulates 
 that all things are void of true nature and that 
 they are without an essential reality; that all 
 things are real and unreal at the same time, 
 according to Nagarjuna's Middle Way, similar to 
 Shankaracharys's notion that Maya is unreal yet 
 real - an appearance only.


The Patriarch Chih-I (538-597) founded the T'ien T'ai school during 
the Sui dynasty in China.  Like all other Buddhist lineages, the 
school maintained that enlightenment is achieved by realizing or 
seeing one's inherent Buddha nature.  The school has a history 
closely tied to the Pure Land school and upholds the Lotus Sutra as 
its principle scripture.  

Chih-I founded this school in order to explain the various teachings 
of the Buddha.  The Buddha taught different teachings in order to 
suit the different mental dispositions of sentient beings.  
Therefore, Chih-I clearly made the distinction between the absolute 
and relative truths in the Buddha's teachings.

The school has three commentaries which include:  The Profound 
Meaning of the Lotus Sutra, The Commentary of the Lotus Sutra and the 
Great Samatha/Vipasyana Commentary which describes the techniques to 
be used to recognize the Dharmakaya.


Three views in which existence can described are:

1) All of existence depends on the existence of other factors, causes 
and conditions and therefore everything is insubstantial

2) Although phenomena and existence are merely temporary, it does 
have a real immediate existence that cannot be ignored 

3) Middle Way:  One must not fall into the extreme views of nihilism 
and eternalism.  Therefore a Buddha recognizes the ultimate and 
relative truth simultaneously.