[FairfieldLife] Pleased to discover the Paul Mason site...
The Guru Dev Biography page has translations from Guru Dev's QA sessions, translated of course: QA #69: Guru Dev: 'Having taken one guru, another you should not' - this is all rubbish talk and is obstructive to the welfare. Some people say that having taken one guru you should not make another. But this doctrine is not of the shaastra, this is [just] minds imagination. The guru is gone to for happiness. Up until when bhagavaad (God) is gained - up until then you can go and change guru. So then we haven't seen any guru-bhakta (devotee) fearful of shifting, always studying in the very same class of the very same guru. Actually, to transfer class and to transfer guru is natural. It is not disrespectful to the former guru, actually respect has been done the guru, but in future you get the promise of discipleship of fresh gurus. Vyasa's son Shukadeva ji acquired knowledge from his own father, then he gained knowledge from Shankara ji and also gained knowledge from Narada ji. In the end he took instruction from Janaka ji. Therefore, 'Having taken one guru, another you should not' - this is all rubbish talk and is obstructive to the welfare. You should not ruin your life with this kind of empty words. Many lives have been caused to live in births, now then be alert to attain the human birth. Understanding the method of upaasanaa (worship) from higher and higher gurus, having been doing actions according to Veda shaastra, be doing chanting and puja of Bhagavan, then it is certain you will cross the sea of saMsaara (worldly existence). [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 69 of 108] translation - Paul Mason © 2006, 2007 Wow that's refreshing. Best thing I've been turned on to from two or three days perusing this site. MMY either suppressed or was unaware of 90% of what Guru Dev taught. (In the voice of SNL guy) And that's okay Being eclectic... eat from many tables... if you taste something wonderful, ask for the recipe that's what a positive teacher will encourage. Another teacher who knew of MMY summed it up: In this life, he came here to deal with the issue of self-agrandizement. So maybe, we've all learned vicariously to whatever extent we enabled that or participated in that dynamic. It's a worthwhile issue to exhaust and transcend. I was 16 when I got in... 30 when I left. Now I'm 49. MMY dying has accelerated some final letting go. I don't mean to sound bitter, or sound like a complainer. Happy to reconnect with intelligent seekers. Happy to read translations of Guru Dev. -MJF
[FairfieldLife] Puja In Sunnyvale, California
To All: A puja will be performed in Sunnyvale tomorrow at 9:00 am. The puja will include a fire and bathing ceremony. I've never attended one before. So, I'll keep you posted on the results afterward. JR PS Over the weekend I also attended an ISKCON festival at the Golden GAte Park in San Francisco, CA. The festival featured free food and entertainment. The food was delicious which included a sweet preparation called halava. The cook told me that the preparation was made of farina or semolina mixed with butter and sugar. You guys ought to try this food. You might like it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: [snip] When the real action becomes science I'll read it in NS. To be honest, I originally slunk in to this conversation on crop circles because your superior tone to believers grated. Amongst others, this post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/185240 If you scrape the froth from this into two separate boxes you have one ugly one for them: * hideous truth (as in can't face the * preposterous * TBs reflexive creation * wishy-washy newage nerd * nonsense * starved of any kind of orthodox spiritual outlet So what? I call it like I see it. Put it all back in it's proper context and consider the fact I've been interested in crop circles for more than twenty years and perhaps you'll agree I've earned the right to have strong opinions about it. And one self-regarding box for you: * open to any new ideas * I have...higher standards of evidence * I have thought a lot about... * I have reached the conclusion that the balance of probabilities would indicate... (go to the top of the class for that!) * Far from sounding off I think I deal with it in a quite restrained manner Again, so what? How do you think you come across? And not a lot else. To my mind if someone wants to position themselves on the rational high ground (and it seems to me that you very, very much fancy that idea) I'm more rational than someone who claims he can tell a circle in corn was made by aliens and not some human method he's not aware of. then they should try hard to hold to its principles: more reasoning and less flimflam. Where is the flim flam? Then, when in another post you cashed the value of I have higher standards of evidence into gets into the New Scientist journal I thought I would dip my toe in. Higher standards of evidence than what? New age TB websites? Who hasn't. Against the idea that if there WAS good evidence for crop circles or anything else earth-shattering then we would read about it in the New Scientist, I tried to give you a counter-example. I said that there is at least one such thing going on right now which I know you will not be reading about in the NS. And by this I was thinking about the current crisis in climatology that is being caused by the refusal of global temperatures to tow the party line. From this you went bounding off into the GW Swindle documentary, the recent ruling by the UK broadcasting regulator on it, and a NS point-by-point rebuttal of climate change scepticism. None of which are to the point (though there is a lot I would like to say about those!). So let's just tighten up. I'm plenty light. To back up what I am saying, I am not going to send you to MY preferred journalist instead of yours, or MY preferred blog with point-by-point re-rebuttals of your point-by-point rebuttals from your preferred blog. No, just this: Take a look at the global temperature records recently. There isn't just one source for these. I would prefer the satellite measurements - but instead let's go into the lair of the No 1 PRO AGW academic dragon - Dr Hansen of NASA. (Isn't it odd that we go to NASA's Hansen for the stats for SURFACE meteorological measurements!) http://tiny.cc/CEVuV For some other charts: http://tiny.cc/mL7zi Is this filling the pages of your New Scientist? No it's not. But don't you think it is just pretty, darn odd? Where's the global warming? But wait, I can feel your burners igniting, so just hold on a moment: I am NOT saying that AGW is proved false by this. I am saying it is not on the face of it what the theory predicted and in that sense, in good science, it should be in crisis. It should be a hot subject. And indeed there IS lots of work and discussion going on about this in the scientific community. But you're going to have to read outside your comfort zone of the Guardian and the NS for that stuff because on this scientific issue those are CAMPAIGNING journals more than reporting journals. And in the case of NS there are sound commercial reasons for that. Perhaps they are waiting for something definitive to appear? The Earths temperature has increased by 0.2 degrees C every decade in the last thirty years pushing temperatures to their highest level in 120,000 years. Cast your mind back to the NS article about the GWS documentary, I think the overriding idea that came across was that climate science is a LOT more complicated than newspapers or the GWS doc get across. Science works by people having new ideas that challenge orthodoxy, if the ideas are good and they are supported by experiment they end up supplanting the old ones. The real action is therefore the science itself. What this idea would have to denmonstrate is that the world has a way of absorbing greenhouse gases that no-one
[FairfieldLife] Re: 4th of July at MUM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that look. That's the look one gets from denying your body a big, fat, prime-cut Rib Eye done medium rare for the 384 times during the past 30 years that they lusted after one. These souls came from a meat-eating tradition and instead of giving their bodies what their bodies were telling them that they needed, their bodies self-ravaged as a result and this is what it looks like. Mmmm, Rib Eye, medium rare Hail to the meat eating tradition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To All: A puja will be performed in Sunnyvale tomorrow at 9:00 am. The puja will include a fire and bathing ceremony. I've never attended one before. So, I'll keep you posted on the results afterward. I've never attended one, either. If you're still around and able to report afterwards, please let us know whether it required you to bathe before or after being thrown into the fire.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: If you scrape the froth from this into two separate boxes you have one ugly one for them: * hideous truth (as in can't face the * preposterous * TBs reflexive creation * wishy-washy newage nerd * nonsense * starved of any kind of orthodox spiritual outlet And? Sounds accurate to me. :-) So what? I call it like I see it. Put it all back in it's proper context and consider the fact I've been interested in crop circles for more than twenty years and perhaps you'll agree I've earned the right to have strong opinions about it. I've never been interested in them and still am not, but equally feel the right to have strong opinions about the subject. Not so much about the circles themselves (who the fuck cares), but about the people who obsess about them. The former may or may not be mysterious, but the latter (the fanatics) are not. They are the same as any brand of fanatic anywhere, and thus one is able (and, some would say, almost duty-bound) to laugh at them. There is little on this planet as laughable as someone touting Woo Woo while claiming to be rational. And taking themselves seriously and demanding that others take them seriously while acting in such a fashion that one cannot *possibly* take them seriously. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: [snip] Richard M: To back up what I am saying, I am not going to send you to MY preferred journalist instead of yours, or MY preferred blog with point-by-point re-rebuttals of your point-by-point rebuttals from your preferred blog. No, just this: Take a look at the global temperature records recently. There isn't just one source for these. I would prefer the satellite measurements - but instead let's go into the lair of the No 1 PRO AGW academic dragon - Dr Hansen of NASA. (Isn't it odd that we go to NASA's Hansen for the stats for SURFACE meteorological measurements!) http://tiny.cc/CEVuV For some other charts: http://tiny.cc/mL7zi Is this filling the pages of your New Scientist? No it's not. But don't you think it is just pretty, darn odd? Where's the global warming? But wait, I can feel your burners igniting, so just hold on a moment: I am NOT saying that AGW is proved false by this. I am saying it is not on the face of it what the theory predicted and in that sense, in good science, it should be in crisis. It should be a hot subject. And indeed there IS lots of work and discussion going on about this in the scientific community. But you're going to have to read outside your comfort zone of the Guardian and the NS for that stuff because on this scientific issue those are CAMPAIGNING journals more than reporting journals. And in the case of NS there are sound commercial reasons for that. Richard H: Perhaps they are waiting for something definitive to appear? The Earths temperature has increased by 0.2 degrees C every decade in the last thirty years pushing temperatures to their highest level in 120,000 years. Namesake - Is that your eyeballing of the DATA? Or a calculation from from the graphs of data I linked to above? Or some pat copy 'n paste rebuttal? Are you looking with your own eyes? Trust them! If you can see a rise like that in that data then I'm sure with a little persuasion you could also see the hand of little green men in crop circles (if you could avoid double-standards). Maybe a face on Mars too. It's just as woo-woo. The thing is - I don't think we can really discuss this can we. And I shouldn't have tried. And why? Because you are an AGW TB and I am not a TB on this subject either way. I can look at that data and speculate about it. You just have to look into your pocket as quickly as possible to find some balm to make it go away. The Emperor claims he is wearing fine clothes. I look and see nothing. Is that my eyes? Are the clothes too subtle for a mere mortal such as I to appreciate? Perhaps they are meant to appear as though they are not there? So too Anthropogenic Global Warming: CO2 rises, temp should go up. For the last decade CO2 has risen a lot, temp remains flat. To me that's interesting. Is the rise being masked? is it noise in the data? Or is the theory flawed? To you it's just something to be explained away or discredited a priori. ASAP. Knee-jerk. You recall the recent European soccer tournament. No Brit sides were competing and there was gloom amongst the media, who were of course depending on good ratings for the event. Did you notice afterwards there were a lot of comments from fans that, in a funny sort of way, they had enjoyed it MORE for not having been partisan and deeply, emotionally, bound-up with the result? And comments from football-hating partners that their living rooms had suddenly begun feeling like pleasant places to be rather than the living space of foaming-at-the-mouth, excitable, wild animals? It was, like, you know, equanimity in success or failure said one tattoo-clad, shaven-headed Liverpool fan. Well I feel as if I'm sharing a beer or two with you in your pad. It's your favourite team. It's the Big Night. You have your scarf, you have your rattle. You're one nil down with five minutes to play and, frankly, you're not looking at your best. Me? I don't care who wins, but I'm enjoying the game. Then I make the mistake of suggesting that the opposition player looked to have been unfairly brought down in your penalty area, and - whoops! You may recall: I mentioned a crisis in climatology, which has set you off. ...Despite your presumption, that does not mean that I have taken a side on the issue, such as when one supports a favourite sports team come hell or high water. Good for you, but on this issue I would take a side, the sane one. But as I say I think it's too late. That's candid of you. But it's AGW TB of course, isn't it. And there we have it. We've made our own little half-circle: From (scourge of all) crop circle TBs and TM TBs everywhere to self-confessed AGW TB.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: So what? I call it like I see it. Put it all back in it's proper context and consider the fact I've been interested in crop circles for more than twenty years and perhaps you'll agree I've earned the right to have strong opinions about it. I've never been interested in them and still am not, but equally feel the right to have strong opinions about the subject. Not so much about the circles themselves (who the fuck cares), but about the people who obsess about them. The former may or may not be mysterious, but the latter (the fanatics) are not. They are the same as any brand of fanatic anywhere, and thus one is able (and, some would say, almost duty-bound) to laugh at them. There is little on this planet as laughable as someone touting Woo Woo while claiming to be rational. And taking themselves seriously and demanding that others take them seriously while acting in such a fashion that one cannot *possibly* take them seriously. :-) Here's how I would characterize the conversation so far: Person 1: There is definitely Woo Woo involved with crop circles. Not all of them are Woo Woo, but some of them definitely are. Person 2: I don't agree. I think it is more likely that there is no Woo Woo at all. Person 1: You are ignorant and terrified of learning the truth. If you had read the same facts I had, you would HAVE to agree with me that there is Woo Woo involved. Person 2: I have not only read the same things you have, but I have been doing so for 20 years and you're a Woo Woo Johnny Come Lately by comparison. Nothing I have read convinces me that Woo Woo is involved. Person 1: Then you are just being stupid, not rational like me. The ONLY rational thing to believe is what *I* believe. Woo Woo is defin- itely happening, and if you don't agree with me and admit that you were WRONG, you are being irrational. Whereas *I* am the rational one for insisting that Woo Woo exists and is present in the crop circle scenario. Person 2: Whatever. Not interested in discussing this further with a crazy person. Person 1: See! You're terrified of learning the truth! No matter how many times you say you are not interested in discussing this with me, I'm going to respond ANYWAY, because I MUST convince you that Woo Woo exists. And you MUST realize this and change your beliefs BECAUSE I SAY SO. Furthermore, when the inevitable happens and you finally admit that you were WRONG, you MUST apologize to me for not believing me about the Woo Woo in the first place. I'm the rational one here, and you're not. So there. Person 2: Ha! Person 1: replay everything said before over and over again, as if saying it one more time will convince the non-believer this time Person 2: ignoring the blithering idiot Person 1: replay everything said before over and over yet again, ignoring the fact that they are being ignored This has been a discussion between a fanatic who has been INSISTING that the only correct POV is theirs (and that this is a rational stance), and a person who is really rational and refuses to be browbeaten. As entertainment goes, it's tough to beat it.
[FairfieldLife] Total command of four-way independence?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: So what? I call it like I see it. Put it all back in it's proper context and consider the fact I've been interested in crop circles for more than twenty years and perhaps you'll agree I've earned the right to have strong opinions about it. I've never been interested in them and still am not, but equally feel the right to have strong opinions about the subject. Not so much about the circles themselves (who the fuck cares), but about the people who obsess about them. The former may or may not be mysterious, but the latter (the fanatics) are not. They are the same as any brand of fanatic anywhere, and thus one is able (and, some would say, almost duty-bound) to laugh at them. There is little on this planet as laughable as someone touting Woo Woo while claiming to be rational. And taking themselves seriously and demanding that others take them seriously while acting in such a fashion that one cannot *possibly* take them seriously. :-) Here's how I would characterize the conversation so far: Person 1: There is definitely Woo Woo involved with crop circles. Not all of them are Woo Woo, but some of them definitely are. Person 2: I don't agree. I think it is more likely that there is no Woo Woo at all. Person 1: You are ignorant and terrified of learning the truth. If you had read the same facts I had, you would HAVE to agree with me that there is Woo Woo involved. Person 2: I have not only read the same things you have, but I have been doing so for 20 years and you're a Woo Woo Johnny Come Lately by comparison. Nothing I have read convinces me that Woo Woo is involved. Person 1: Then you are just being stupid, not rational like me. The ONLY rational thing to believe is what *I* believe. Woo Woo is defin- itely happening, and if you don't agree with me and admit that you were WRONG, you are being irrational. Whereas *I* am the rational one for insisting that Woo Woo exists and is present in the crop circle scenario. Person 2: Whatever. Not interested in discussing this further with a crazy person. Person 1: See! You're terrified of learning the truth! No matter how many times you say you are not interested in discussing this with me, I'm going to respond ANYWAY, because I MUST convince you that Woo Woo exists. And you MUST realize this and change your beliefs BECAUSE I SAY SO. Furthermore, when the inevitable happens and you finally admit that you were WRONG, you MUST apologize to me for not believing me about the Woo Woo in the first place. I'm the rational one here, and you're not. So there. Person 2: Ha! Person 1: replay everything said before over and over again, as if saying it one more time will convince the non-believer this time Person 2: ignoring the blithering idiot Person 1: replay everything said before over and over yet again, ignoring the fact that they are being ignored This has been a discussion between a fanatic who has been INSISTING that the only correct POV is theirs (and that this is a rational stance), and a person who is really rational and refuses to be browbeaten. As entertainment goes, it's tough to beat it. Er.. Haven't you noticed that what is going on in Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist) is not quite the same as Crop Circle in the USA?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 4th of July at MUM
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 4th of July at MUM Okay, going back I saw Beth Kleinman, and Jane Hagen, but I still couldn't pick out Orsatti, or Hagelin, unless Hagelin has a beard now. But Orsatti. He must look pretty different than I remember him. Might have expected to see Gratzon, Pearson. Gratzon was in there. Easier to spot if you know his wife Shelly, who was more obvious in the photo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pleased to discover the Paul Mason site...
On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:00 AM, Michael James Flatley wrote: MMY either suppressed or was unaware of 90% of what Guru Dev taught. (In the voice of SNL guy) And that's okay Paul's done a real good job of showing that Mahesh's knowledge is clearly a departure from SBS's teaching. Actually a lot of TM org knowledge appears to have been made up as he went along or was often purloined from others (e.g. Sw. Lakshman Joo, various Vedic scholars, etc.) according to old secretaries. Some of the knowledge, like Ayurvedic formulas, were simply stolen and sold for profit, violating the expressed intentions of the originator.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote from Earl Kaplan on MMY stealing Jewelry from his master's funeral
Bhairitu wrote: Marketing hype. So, the Marshy's TM and the Sri Sri's Sudarshan Kryia are the most popular meditation techniques in India and both are just simple yoga methods that utilize a few bija mantras - you're the only one that seems to be shocked at this news. Maybe you should get out more. According to Vaj, there were millions of people doing this at the recent Khumba Mela. My guess is that over a billion people practice some form of mantra meditation in India. All meditation is transcendental, and there's only one Transcendental. But it's a fact that the thousands of devotees of the Swami Parbhupada Saraswati (ISKCON) DO NOT chant the 'Om' syllable when they perform the kirtan or meditate on the Vasudeva. 'Om' is to be chanted by the Vedic pujaris in the fire ceremony - 'Om' is NOT for the ordinary worldly householder. The chanting or meditating on 'Om' is for the yogis of the renounced order - it does not produce any 'kama', worldly enjoyment, one of the four aims of life. Hardly anyone in India chants 'Om', unless they are Brahmin caste priests. If you have been doing this, I would suggest that you stop this black magic, and stop with all the playing with fire and waving your hands and arms all about your head. Forget all the finger-snaping. Just stick to your basket-weaving and watching the TV - get a girl friend, enjoy. Transcendental meditation is centered around the extremely old practice of chanting mantra's. Sudarshan Kriya is centered around the extremely old Yoga breath exercises. In both cases, although their respective promoter-gurus claim the opposite, there's nothing new under the sun. Read more: 'How genuine is Sri Sri Ravi Shankar?' http://www.yunusnews.com/node/486 'TM: Corporate India's latest stress buster' By Sakina Yusuf Khan Times of India, 17 Aug 2003 http://tinyurl.com/kd70 'Art of meditation catches`em young' By Jaspreet Nijher Times of India, 25 Aug 2004 http://tinyurl.com/55jwk9
[FairfieldLife] Action Alert - Your Urgent Action Needed to Save Ram Sethu.
(Mailing information, including unsubscription instructions, is located at the end of this message.) Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire email list of family and friends. An Emergency Call to Save Ram Sethu Sethusamudram Shipping Canal Project (SSCP) will destroy Ram Sethu and turn the Gulf of Mannar into an Ecological disaster. We are sending out this S.O.S. to you in the hope that we can all come together in body, mind or prayer to help Save Ram Sethu. The Supreme Court of India is hearing the Sethusamudram (SSCP) case from July 22 to July 29, 2008. The Indian Government headed by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has filed an affidavit seeking permission to go ahead with the SSCP and submitting that the archaeological survey (ASI) is not important. The Government's turnaround - considering it had earlier suggested that the ASI is imperative – clearly indicates that the Government seems to be in a rush to execute a project that was first conceived not less than 144 years ago! If the Supreme Court passes this case, the dredging of Ram Sethu is expected to begin right away. There are unconfirmed reports that Ram Sethu might be blasted with dynamite if dredging becomes difficult on the rough sea. Save Ram Sethu Campaign takes strong exception to a wholly incorrect interpretation - an extreme distortion – of Hindu scriptures by lawyer Fali S. Nariman, who represented the Government of India before the Supreme Court on July 22 and reportedly quoted from Kamba Ramayana and Padmapurana and said that the destruction of the bridge by Lord Rama is mentioned therein. Aside from the distastefulness of a lawyer of Mr. Nariman's stature distorting Hindu scriptures in an attempt to obtain favorable orders, Mr. Nariman's reference to Lord Rama as superman is blasphemous, scurrilous and an extreme distortion which we find insulting to our Hindu faith. Mr. Nariman should retract his statements and apologize to the Hindus. Some months ago, the lawyers representing the Government had shocked the entire world by making a submission to the Supreme Court denying the very existence of Lord Rama. Now it has come up with a distorted interpretation from Kamba Ramayana and Padmapurana to justify the destruction of Ram Sethu for the sake of the SSCP. It seems to escape the Government's attention that historically or otherwise Ram Sethu is associated with Lord Rama and sacred to millions of Hindus in India and abroad. We must act now to protect our sacred heritage from greedy, mindless destruction. We are imploring you to do the right thing - and the right thing is preserving Ram Sethu for current and future generations. Men with machines can destroy in minutes what can never be replaced. Do we want to be remembered as the people who were able to stop the destruction, or the people who allowed it to proceed? We are a proud and ancient civilization and we must rise to the occasion against all impossibilities. We must salvage and wrest our rightful and magnificent heritage from the forces of ignorance, arrogance and greed. When the Taliban destroyed the Bamiyan statues, the world reacted with horror at their act of barbarism. What the Indian Government proposes to do to Ram Sethu is no less barbaric. This threat to our religion is more than real and right on our threshold! Please act now! We are looking for one million supporters willing to take a stand and not allow a syndicate of politicians and vested interests defile our sacred
[FairfieldLife] Re: 4th of July at MUM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recognized only Cindy Jevne, Trish Costello and Jeffrey Hedquist, if you don't count the well-known faces of John Hagelin, Bob Wynne and Mario Orsatti. It was good to see so many young people, but one would hope to see young people on a college campus, hmmm? Whoa. I'm gonna go back. I want to see Orsatti, and Hagelin. I don't know Hedquist. Okay, going back I saw Beth Kleinman, and Jane Hagen, but I still couldn't pick out Orsatti, or Hagelin, unless Hagelin has a beard now. But Orsatti. He must look pretty different than I remember him. Might have expected to see Gratzon, Pearson. Oh yeah, Beth - now that you mention her, I saw her too. And there was a fellow in sunglasses who looked like one of the Kaplans. But they are removed from that world now, aren't they? Hagelin was on the stage with Mario, and Mario looks the same, only grey-haired.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quote from Earl Kaplan on MMY stealing Jewelry from his master's funeral
On Jul 31, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: According to Vaj, there were millions of people doing this at the recent Khumba Mela. It actually was not at the Kumbha Mela but the SSRS 25th anniversary gathering that drew Kumbha Mela size crowds. It was hailed as the largest gathering for peace in human history. The Art of Living org claims 20 million initiates as of 2006. Hindu master aims to heal ailing world with breathing techniques: Nobel Peace Prize nominee's Art of Living foundation claims 20 million members Edmonton Journal (Alberta) Written by Don Retson September 9, 2006 EDMONTON - Dr. Norm Neeb has a family practice in St. Louis, Mo., but some of his best advice to patients these days has nothing to do with conventional treatments. Years ago, Neeb says he was blown away by some of the big improvements he noticed in some patients. Wow! It's amazing! Neeb recalls saying to those who'd seemingly undergone attitude transplants. What are you doing? read full article... How to do sudarshan kriya
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er.. Haven't you noticed that what is going on in Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist) is not quite the same as Crop Circle in the USA? No, to be honest, I hadn't. I read far enough into your contributions to realize that all you seemed to be interested in was starting an intellectual dick size contest with Richard. Since the outcome of such a contest is a fore- gone conclusion, I immediately clicked Next. Given this gripe, I suspect I am safe in doing so whenever I see your name in the subject line in the future.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Er.. Haven't you noticed that what is going on in Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist) is not quite the same as Crop Circle in the USA? No, to be honest, I hadn't. I read far enough into your contributions to realize that all you seemed to be interested in was starting an intellectual dick size contest with Richard. Since the outcome of such a contest is a fore- gone conclusion, I immediately clicked Next. Given this gripe, I suspect I am safe in doing so whenever I see your name in the subject line in the future. Pathetic. You can't be bothered to read what your responding to and come barging in full of totally irrelevant tosh. Then you lash out that it's MY fault that I'm not entertaining you to the standard to which your accustomed. I've got news for you mate: I don't give a toss whether you have a hissy fit and filter on my name in the subject line. Fill your boots.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:42 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To All: A puja will be performed in Sunnyvale tomorrow at 9:00 am. The puja will include a fire and bathing ceremony. I've never attended one before. So, I'll keep you posted on the results afterward. I've never attended one, either. If you're still around and able to report afterwards, please let us know whether it required you to bathe before or after being thrown into the fire. Speaking of which...anybody remember when firewalking was hot, both here and in DC? (NPI) Anyone try it? I must confess I did, twice. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 4th of July at MUM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who on earth is the porker wearing what appears to be a tinfoil turban? That could be very funny if it was intended to be a joke, and...uh not so much if it wasn't. :-) That is the mayor of Vedic City...and that turban has special powers! Yes, the tin-foil turban with special powers(?), a colored man- servant, his robe; he's the highest civil authority of the municipality there. It is indeed a memorable photo. It really ought to go at least in to the files of the FFL archive, if not the State of Iowa Historical Society collection. Jai Guru Dev Indeed, -Doug in FF p.s., i did ran in to three sets of MUM faculty since who did say they turned around and went home after seeing that mayor thus. Particularly with the colored-man-servant it was too bad to take. too sad to take. They left not wanting to be associated. -D Thank goodness. Those faculty should get an award for clear thinking and honest action! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: That is the mayor of Vedic City...and that turban has special powers! --- On Wed, 7/30/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 4th of July at MUM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 2:57 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp? c=199pkkz4.8boobsy8x=0y=ljsat3localeid=en_US Who on earth is the porker wearing what appears to be a tinfoil turban? That could be very funny if it was intended to be a joke, and...uh not so much if it wasn't. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
Richard, I like your contributions to this forum. Sometimes Turq misses out on his coffee in the morning and lashes out at someone for no good reason. We are just one big quarreling family here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Er.. Haven't you noticed that what is going on in Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist) is not quite the same as Crop Circle in the USA? No, to be honest, I hadn't. I read far enough into your contributions to realize that all you seemed to be interested in was starting an intellectual dick size contest with Richard. Since the outcome of such a contest is a fore- gone conclusion, I immediately clicked Next. Given this gripe, I suspect I am safe in doing so whenever I see your name in the subject line in the future. Pathetic. You can't be bothered to read what your responding to and come barging in full of totally irrelevant tosh. Then you lash out that it's MY fault that I'm not entertaining you to the standard to which your accustomed. I've got news for you mate: I don't give a toss whether you have a hissy fit and filter on my name in the subject line. Fill your boots.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 4th of July at MUM
On Jul 31, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Okay, going back I saw Beth Kleinman, and Jane Hagen, but I still couldn't pick out Orsatti, or Hagelin, unless Hagelin has a beard now. But Orsatti. He must look pretty different than I remember him. Might have expected to see Gratzon, Pearson. Oh yeah, Beth - now that you mention her, I saw her too. And there was a fellow in sunglasses who looked like one of the Kaplans. But they are removed from that world now, aren't they? Hagelin was on the stage with Mario, and Mario looks the same, only grey-haired. The Joneses are there, too. (Not keeping up with anybody.) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Er.. Haven't you noticed that what is going on in Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist) is not quite the same as Crop Circle in the USA? No, to be honest, I hadn't. I read far enough into your contributions to realize that all you seemed to be interested in was starting an intellectual dick size contest with Richard. Since the outcome of such a contest is a fore- gone conclusion, I immediately clicked Next. Given this gripe, I suspect I am safe in doing so whenever I see your name in the subject line in the future. Pathetic. You can't be bothered to read what your responding to and come barging in full of totally irrelevant tosh. Then you lash out that it's MY fault that I'm not entertaining you to the standard to which your accustomed. I've got news for you mate: I don't give a toss whether you have a hissy fit and filter on my name in the subject line. Fill your boots. A little attention-starved, are we? :-) I have ZERO interest in you, and less in your global warming dick-size contest with Richard. It seemed like pure ego-jousting to me, and thus not my cuppa tea. I was responding to something Richard said. I had -- and continue to have -- zero interest in you, or in anything you have had to say. I'm also not interested in crop circles per se. The only interest this thread has had for me was providing an opportunity to watch a certain fanatic act like a fanatic. THAT had good enter- tainment value, because fanatics are always fun to watch. Maybe you should consider acting like more of a fanatic pretending not to be a fanatic, and I'll bother to read what you have to say. It's not likely, but you could give it a try. It's better than whining and acting like a petulant child. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA (Read It In New Scientist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, I like your contributions to this forum. Sometimes Turq misses out on his coffee in the morning and lashes out at someone for no good reason. We are just one big quarreling family here. Feste37 - Thanks for that. I appreciate it. It CAN be a bit discouraging. It's always embarrassing apologising for elderly relatives in the family who have seen better days, isn't it? But I can see that breathing in clouds of Turq's garlicky hot air from time to time counts as par for the course. A sort of initiation ceremony maybe? I think he's just pissed because he wasted some of his precious time and talent on two 100% irrelevant posts (not much time). Too sozzled on cheap, warm rose and olives I guess. In fact the other day his stupor was so great he reverse-lashed-out at me (ie gave me a patronising pat on the head) for something I said in response to one of his weighty insights (oh, I was agreeing with him on something. Surprised?). So my feelings have held up under the intense pressure. (All the same the pate he patted was the the wrong Richard! A senior moment. Bless.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 4th of July at MUM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: [snip] Their kids look beautiful and vibrant and sure of themselves like kids everywhere, like us just a few decades ago. And their parents are facing the ravages of aging, some well, due to smart diet and exercise or just good genes, and some...not so much. No, Curtis, you are being overly kind. MOST of them not so much and I would hazard to guess that it is the lack of animal protein that makes them look so...ughhh. Look, I'm no raving beauty myself. I've got a paunch and all...but at least I have SOME semblance of a youthful glow. Hell, this bunch can't even muster the wide-eyed, take-me-for-all-I've-got look that one expects as a bare minimum from cult-members. Just like boomers everywhere with a bit of hippie still alive, many women don't dye their hair. The folkies around here look like that at concerts. Some of the folkie guys go for the Grizzley Adams look too. [snip] Age is odd. Independent of what you see in the mirror, or similar outer cues, do you feel any different, than say when you were 30? even 18. I don't. Thats not some pollyannish optimism put a good spin on it kind of thing, inner beauty and all that smaltz. I JUST don't feel any different. Period. And when I see a 30 year old, I relate -- no age barrier -- no me and them. They are just like me. Bodily aging seems irrelevant, other than some very minor bodily differences and a few more limits. I feel that I have more experience, more knowledge and insight, and along with that probably more jaded and skeptical. But I don't feel different. I am curious as to how others feel?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
Speaking of which...anybody remember when firewalking was hot, both here and in DC? (NPI) Anyone try it? I must confess I did, twice. Sal That's interesting Sal. Even with the knowledge of heat conductivity (the lack of it with wood coals. No one walks across heated metal) I'll bet it is a huge internal event to stand in front of a 2,000 degree fire pit and take the plunge isn't it? I believe that such experiences can be leveraged into a useful internal shove in the direction of Hell yeah I can. Was it useful in the way I imagine? I myself would probably not do it since some people actually do get burned...what was that I heard...did someone just say pussy under their breath? I heard that... don't deny it... and it happens to be true! If I wanted to have a type of foot up the ass of my own limits I would be more inclined to do something with one of those circus companies that get you up on a trapeze. I hate heights and it might be a good way to either face the fear or fertilize my drawers. I was riveted to Circus of the Stars recently...er...uh...I mean I am wy too intellectual for TV and but if I did watch it would be PBS and not some vulgar show about has been actors learning circus tricks in Prime Time. That's what I meant to say. (Speaking of vulgar (I love that word) programs, I went to Manhattan and auditioned for America's Got Talent last Spring. If you want a real laugh you should see the acts who beat me and landed on TV. Real confidence builder to see the guy who pulls his tongue over his eyebrows get a shot on national TV while I got the thankyouverymuchnext! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:42 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: A puja will be performed in Sunnyvale tomorrow at 9:00 am. The puja will include a fire and bathing ceremony. I've never attended one before. So, I'll keep you posted on the results afterward. I've never attended one, either. If you're still around and able to report afterwards, please let us know whether it required you to bathe before or after being thrown into the fire. Speaking of which...anybody remember when firewalking was hot, both here and in DC? (NPI) Anyone try it? I must confess I did, twice. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Speaking of which...anybody remember when firewalking was hot, both here and in DC? (NPI) Anyone try it? I must confess I did, twice. Sal That's interesting Sal. Even with the knowledge of heat conductivity (the lack of it with wood coals. No one walks across heated metal) I'll bet it is a huge internal event to stand in front of a 2,000 degree fire pit and take the plunge isn't it? I believe that such experiences can be leveraged into a useful internal shove in the direction of Hell yeah I can. Was it useful in the way I imagine? I myself would probably not do it since some people actually do get burned...what was that I heard...did someone just say pussy under their breath? I heard that... don't deny it... and it happens to be true! If I wanted to have a type of foot up the ass of my own limits I would be more inclined to do something with one of those circus companies that get you up on a trapeze. I hate heights and it might be a good way to either face the fear or fertilize my drawers. I was riveted to Circus of the Stars recently...er...uh...I mean I am wy too intellectual for TV and but if I did watch it would be PBS and not some vulgar show about has been actors learning circus tricks in Prime Time. That's what I meant to say. (Speaking of vulgar (I love that word) programs, I went to Manhattan and auditioned for America's Got Talent last Spring. If you want a real laugh you should see the acts who beat me and landed on TV. Real confidence builder to see the guy who pulls his tongue over his eyebrows get a shot on national TV while I got the thankyouverymuchnext! That's funny about the talent show, Curtis. The first time for the firewalking was fine. For the second, the coals were much hotter, and luckily I got off before anything serious happened. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Speaking of vulgar (I love that word) programs, I went to Manhattan and auditioned for America's Got Talent last Spring. If you want a real laugh you should see the acts who beat me and landed on TV. Real confidence builder to see the guy who pulls his tongue over his eyebrows get a shot on national TV while I got the thankyouverymuchnext! Could it possibly be that this guy got his shot because the person making the decision was female, and had arranged a date with the guy later on? If you'd sat there licking your eyebrows while waiting for your audition, you could have been on TV, too. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
On Jul 31, 2008, at 11:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: (Speaking of vulgar (I love that word) programs, I went to Manhattan and auditioned for America's Got Talent last Spring. If you want a real laugh you should see the acts who beat me and landed on TV. Real confidence builder to see the guy who pulls his tongue over his eyebrows get a shot on national TV while I got the thankyouverymuchnext! You should try out for American Idol.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
Could it possibly be that this guy got his shot because the person making the decision was female, and had arranged a date with the guy later on? If you'd sat there licking your eyebrows while waiting for your audition, you could have been on TV, too. :-) It was two youngish female producers and I tried my own brand of impress the ladies mojo. It wasn't till I got outside that someone pointed out that the stuffed sock was supposed to go in the FRONT of my pants, not the back. No wonder they hustled me out of the room so fast! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (Speaking of vulgar (I love that word) programs, I went to Manhattan and auditioned for America's Got Talent last Spring. If you want a real laugh you should see the acts who beat me and landed on TV. Real confidence builder to see the guy who pulls his tongue over his eyebrows get a shot on national TV while I got the thankyouverymuchnext! Could it possibly be that this guy got his shot because the person making the decision was female, and had arranged a date with the guy later on? If you'd sat there licking your eyebrows while waiting for your audition, you could have been on TV, too. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 11:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: (Speaking of vulgar (I love that word) programs, I went to Manhattan and auditioned for America's Got Talent last Spring. If you want a real laugh you should see the acts who beat me and landed on TV. Real confidence builder to see the guy who pulls his tongue over his eyebrows get a shot on national TV while I got the thankyouverymuchnext! You should try out for American Idol. One of the benefits of having lived in Europe for the last few years is that I have never seen this show. But one of the things I've always wondered about is whether Christians have any problems watching it because they'd be worshiping idols? Or is it only *false* idols that you're not supposed to worship? Maybe worshiping the winners is OK, but if you worship one of the losers you get a one-way ticket to Hell. Questions like these make me realize that I really should have paid better attention back in Sunday School.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pleased to discover the Paul Mason site...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Wow that's refreshing. Best thing I've been turned on to from two or three days perusing this site. MMY either suppressed or was unaware of 90% of what Guru Dev taught. (In the voice of SNL guy) And that's okay SBS was addressing primarily a Hindu audience, you must remember he was the Shankaracharya, the highest representative of the *Hindu* Religion in the North. He spoke in Hindu terminology, MMY spoke to an entirely different audience, primarily in the West where HE developed *Yoga-lite for modernity*, he never even suggested (to my knowledge) that he was teaching SBS or religious Hinduism for that matter. MMY NEVER claimed to be a Sat-Guru!! He was a Maharishi (great teacher, whether you agree or not) he was NOT a personal Guru nor was that his intention! the basic teaching MMY shared are not the sole possession of his or Guru Dev's but are the collective knowledge of the Vedic culture of India passed down thru many teachers. Guru Dev was MMY's inspiration is all, he said, Guru Dev made me paraphrased. snip Another teacher who knew of MMY summed it up: In this life, he came here to deal with the issue of self-agrandizement. Preposterous.. So maybe, we've all learned vicariously to whatever extent we enabled that or participated in that dynamic. It's a worthwhile issue to exhaust and transcend. I was 16 when I got in... 30 when I left. Now I'm 49. MMY dying has accelerated some final letting go. I don't mean to sound bitter, or sound like a complainer. I was 16 when I started and am 57 now and still practice, it's a great technique, I'm sorry you don't see that. You may have issues with the TMorg. but these ones are a little bogus, IMO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quote from Earl Kaplan on MMY stealing Jewelry from his master's funeral
Richard J. Williams wrote: My guess is that over a billion people practice some form of mantra meditation in India. These days no meditation, no Hinduism and its rituals etc are popular in India with the young folks. They're too busy become westernized.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
On Jul 31, 2008, at 12:14 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: One of the benefits of having lived in Europe for the last few years is that I have never seen this show. But one of the things I've always wondered about is whether Christians have any problems watching it because they'd be worshiping idols? Or is it only *false* idols that you're not supposed to worship? Maybe worshiping the winners is OK, but if you worship one of the losers you get a one-way ticket to Hell. Questions like these make me realize that I really should have paid better attention back in Sunday School. I think I watched it part what through once. I really don't see what the big fuss is. Most Christians love idols in this country: cars, big houses, you name it, all the metaphoric golden calves you can imagine. Apparently at death they're somehow able to reduce themselves to the size of a needle's eye. Torture, which used to be a big thing in Christianity is making something of a comeback here, thanks to our Christian president, who actually talks to God.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of which...anybody remember when firewalking was hot, both here and in DC? (NPI) Anyone try it? I must confess I did, twice. Sal That's interesting Sal. Even with the knowledge of heat conductivity (the lack of it with wood coals. No one walks across heated metal) I'll bet it is a huge internal event to stand in front of a 2,000 degree fire pit and take the plunge isn't it? I believe that such experiences can be leveraged into a useful internal shove in the direction of Hell yeah I can. Was it useful in the way I imagine? I myself would probably not do it since some people actually do get burned...what was that I heard...did someone just say pussy under their breath? I heard that... don't deny it... and it happens to be true! If I wanted to have a type of foot up the ass of my own limits I would be more inclined to do something with one of those circus companies that get you up on a trapeze. I hate heights and it might be a good way to either face the fear or fertilize my drawers. I was riveted to Circus of the Stars recently...er...uh...I mean I am wy too intellectual for TV and but if I did watch it would be PBS and not some vulgar show about has been actors learning circus tricks in Prime Time. That's what I meant to say. (Speaking of vulgar (I love that word) programs, I went to Manhattan and auditioned for America's Got Talent last Spring. If you want a real laugh you should see the acts who beat me and landed on TV. Real confidence builder to see the guy who pulls his tongue over his eyebrows get a shot on national TV while I got the thankyouverymuchnext! A random thought of wishing I could hear you play on A Prairie Home Companion ran thru my head after exploring the links posted here when your latest CD was released. I would send my request to the show if I thought it was something that I felt you would not object to. The show has hosted some really interesting American roots music over the years. http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/ The show is not just lutefisk and Lake Wobegon. You would sound great and bring down the house dude! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:42 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: A puja will be performed in Sunnyvale tomorrow at 9:00 am. The puja will include a fire and bathing ceremony. I've never attended one before. So, I'll keep you posted on the results afterward. I've never attended one, either. If you're still around and able to report afterwards, please let us know whether it required you to bathe before or after being thrown into the fire. Speaking of which...anybody remember when firewalking was hot, both here and in DC? (NPI) Anyone try it? I must confess I did, twice. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Put Karl Rove Behind Bars
Where he belongs for the rest of his life! Go to: http://contemptforrove.com/ And sign the petition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote from Earl Kaplan on MMY stealing Jewelry from his master's funeral
---The TMO people haven't given a cogent reason why people should meditate, in spite of all the bogus stats and TM-speak. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard J. Williams wrote: My guess is that over a billion people practice some form of mantra meditation in India. These days no meditation, no Hinduism and its rituals etc are popular in India with the young folks. They're too busy become westernized.
[FairfieldLife] 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
globalcountryofwo/5F306E1D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/images/gcwp.jpg Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that after only two months, the 660-person, 96,000 square foot Vedic Pandit campus expansion in Maharishi Vedic City is nearing completion. As a result, 250 more Vedic Pandits will be arriving from India in groups of about 60 a week beginning August 12th! Also during this time the Vedic Pandits on the MUM campus will be moving to their new housing in Maharishi Vedic City, freeing up 200 rooms on the MUM campus for additional students and more Invincible America Assembly participants. By the end of August, 1050 Vedic Pandits will be flying together and attending to their daily Vedic routine together, helping to crown America with Invincibility. When this happens, the daily Super Radiance numbers will usually be more than 2000 in the mornings and 2250 in the evenings! This accomplishment of creating Invincibility for America is due to those who supported this project through donations and loans. America, and the world, will be forever grateful that you came forward to help Maharishi fulfill his desire for America to be Invincible America, an America at peace, a Vedic America. Now that 1000 Vedic Pandits will be all together, the Vedic Pandits have wondered if a large Mandap building could be constructed that could accommodate all of them at one time to perform certain Vedic performances. This large hall, built from specifications from India, would also be available to accommodate visitors. Surrounding the large hall would be several smaller Mandaps accommodating different Vedic Performances. The cost of the large Mandap building is $1 million and the smaller Mandaps are $100,000 each. If you, or someone you know, would like to donate toward the construction of these Vedic Mandaps please go to the Global Country http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f of World Peace website or send contributions to Global Country of World Peace, 2000 Capital Boulevard, Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, 52556. If you would like to make a loan for the construction of these Vedic Mandaps, in an amount of $100,000 or greater, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 (312) 324-0291. Below are three short video clips showing the new house construction, a tour of the inside of a Pandit house, and the Guru Purnima celebration with 121 Vedic Pandits inside the Men's Golden Dome on the MUM campus. To see a video clip just click on the picture or text underneath. Thank you for all you support in helping crown America with permanent Invincibility! Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html globalcountryofwo/643FD93D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html New Campus Construction http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html globalcountryofwo/643FD963.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html House Tour http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek.html globalcountryofwo/643FD989.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek.html Guru Purnima Celebration Click here to unsubscribe http://invincibleamerica.org/subscribe/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Put Karl Rove Behind Bars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where he belongs for the rest of his life! Go to: http://contemptforrove.com/ And sign the petition. The petition is not to throw Rove in jail but to support a Contempt of Congress resolution against Rove for not responding to a subpoena to appear before the Judiciary Committee. Rove cited separation of powers (Executive v. Legislative branches) and that the committee has no power to compel him to appear. Here's my question for you, Bhairitu: Since you are so eager for Rove to appear before the Committee and testify -- and, indeed, to have him jailed for the rest of his life!, no less, for not appearing -- how do you feel about the Hollywood Ten? They were all subpoenaed to appear before a Congressional Committee to testify but were held in contempt for refusing to do so (they refused to answer the questions put before them). For you to be consistent with your position vis a vis Rove, I take it that you supported contempt charges as well as the jailing of the Hollywood Ten?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: globalcountryofwo/5F306E1D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/images/gcwp.jpg Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that after only two months, the 660-person, 96,000 square foot Vedic Pandit campus expansion in Maharishi Vedic City is nearing completion. As a result, 250 more Vedic Pandits will be arriving from India in groups of about 60 a week beginning August 12th! Also during this time the Vedic Pandits on the MUM campus will be moving to their new housing in Maharishi Vedic City, freeing up 200 rooms on the MUM campus for additional students and more Invincible America Assembly participants. By the end of August, 1050 Vedic Pandits will be flying together and attending to their daily Vedic routine together, helping to crown America with Invincibility. When this happens, the daily Super Radiance numbers will usually be more than 2000 in the mornings and 2250 in the evenings! This accomplishment of creating Invincibility for America is due to those who supported this project through donations and loans. America, and the world, will be forever grateful that you came forward to help Maharishi fulfill his desire for America to be Invincible America, an America at peace, a Vedic America. Now that 1000 Vedic Pandits will be all together, the Vedic Pandits have wondered if a large Mandap building could be constructed that could accommodate all of them at one time to perform certain Vedic performances. This large hall, built from specifications from India, would also be available to accommodate visitors. Surrounding the large hall would be several smaller Mandaps accommodating different Vedic Performances. The cost of the large Mandap building is $1 million and the smaller Mandaps are $100,000 each. If you, or someone you know, would like to donate toward the construction of these Vedic Mandaps please go to the Global Country http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f of World Peace website or send contributions to Global Country of World Peace, 2000 Capital Boulevard, Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, 52556. If you would like to make a loan for the construction of these Vedic Mandaps, in an amount of $100,000 or greater, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 (312) 324-0291. Below are three short video clips showing the new house construction, a tour of the inside of a Pandit house, and the Guru Purnima celebration with 121 Vedic Pandits inside the Men's Golden Dome on the MUM campus. To see a video clip just click on the picture or text underneath. Thank you for all you support in helping crown America with permanent Invincibility! Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html globalcountryofwo/643FD93D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html New Campus Construction http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html globalcountryofwo/643FD963.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html House Tour http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek.html globalcountryofwo/643FD989.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek.html Guru Purnima Celebration Click here to unsubscribe http://invincibleamerica.org/subscribe/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Put Karl Rove Behind Bars
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where he belongs for the rest of his life! Go to: http://contemptforrove.com/ And sign the petition. The petition is not to throw Rove in jail but to support a Contempt of Congress resolution against Rove for not responding to a subpoena to appear before the Judiciary Committee. Rove cited separation of powers (Executive v. Legislative branches) and that the committee has no power to compel him to appear. If the house passes the resolution then the House Sergeant-Of-Arms has the power to send out the Capital Hill Police and arrest him. IOW, he will wind up in a cell in the jail in the basement of the Capital. So yes, he WOULD get thrown in jail. But this bastard deserves much more than that as do Cheney and Dubya and that is the rest of their lives in prison for the crimes they've committed. Here's my question for you, Bhairitu: Since you are so eager for Rove to appear before the Committee and testify -- and, indeed, to have him jailed for the rest of his life!, no less, for not appearing -- how do you feel about the Hollywood Ten? They were all subpoenaed to appear before a Congressional Committee to testify but were held in contempt for refusing to do so (they refused to answer the questions put before them). At that time it was the screwball Joe McCarthy who was running the show. Those people didn't break any laws as Rove, Bush, Cheney et all have. There was some ignorant people who thought that anyone who had a mind was communist. Boy would those folks love BushCo, the Fourth Reich.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
---right, but so far there's an inverse correlation between Pundit activity and natural disasters: the flooding in the Midwest and previously, total disaster in Madagascar. The more Pundits that come, = more disasters. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: globalcountryofwo/5F306E1D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/images/gcwp.jpg Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that after only two months, the 660-person, 96,000 square foot Vedic Pandit campus expansion in Maharishi Vedic City is nearing completion. As a result, 250 more Vedic Pandits will be arriving from India in groups of about 60 a week beginning August 12th! Also during this time the Vedic Pandits on the MUM campus will be moving to their new housing in Maharishi Vedic City, freeing up 200 rooms on the MUM campus for additional students and more Invincible America Assembly participants. By the end of August, 1050 Vedic Pandits will be flying together and attending to their daily Vedic routine together, helping to crown America with Invincibility. When this happens, the daily Super Radiance numbers will usually be more than 2000 in the mornings and 2250 in the evenings! This accomplishment of creating Invincibility for America is due to those who supported this project through donations and loans. America, and the world, will be forever grateful that you came forward to help Maharishi fulfill his desire for America to be Invincible America, an America at peace, a Vedic America. Now that 1000 Vedic Pandits will be all together, the Vedic Pandits have wondered if a large Mandap building could be constructed that could accommodate all of them at one time to perform certain Vedic performances. This large hall, built from specifications from India, would also be available to accommodate visitors. Surrounding the large hall would be several smaller Mandaps accommodating different Vedic Performances. The cost of the large Mandap building is $1 million and the smaller Mandaps are $100,000 each. If you, or someone you know, would like to donate toward the construction of these Vedic Mandaps please go to the Global Country http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f of World Peace website or send contributions to Global Country of World Peace, 2000 Capital Boulevard, Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, 52556. If you would like to make a loan for the construction of these Vedic Mandaps, in an amount of $100,000 or greater, please contact RajaWynneOffice@ or call 1 (312) 324-0291. Below are three short video clips showing the new house construction, a tour of the inside of a Pandit house, and the Guru Purnima celebration with 121 Vedic Pandits inside the Men's Golden Dome on the MUM campus. To see a video clip just click on the picture or text underneath. Thank you for all you support in helping crown America with permanent Invincibility! Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html globalcountryofwo/643FD93D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html New Campus Construction http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html globalcountryofwo/643FD963.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html House Tour http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek. html globalcountryofwo/643FD989.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek. html Guru Purnima Celebration Click here to unsubscribe http://invincibleamerica.org/subscribe/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Put Karl Rove Behind Bars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Where he belongs for the rest of his life! Go to: http://contemptforrove.com/ And sign the petition. The petition is not to throw Rove in jail but to support a Contempt of Congress resolution against Rove for not responding to a subpoena to appear before the Judiciary Committee. Rove cited separation of powers (Executive v. Legislative branches) and that the committee has no power to compel him to appear. If the house passes the resolution then the House Sergeant-Of-Arms has the power to send out the Capital Hill Police and arrest him. IOW, he will wind up in a cell in the jail in the basement of the Capital. So yes, he WOULD get thrown in jail. But this bastard deserves much more than that as do Cheney and Dubya and that is the rest of their lives in prison for the crimes they've committed. Here's my question for you, Bhairitu: Since you are so eager for Rove to appear before the Committee and testify -- and, indeed, to have him jailed for the rest of his life!, no less, for not appearing -- how do you feel about the Hollywood Ten? They were all subpoenaed to appear before a Congressional Committee to testify but were held in contempt for refusing to do so (they refused to answer the questions put before them). At that time it was the screwball Joe McCarthy who was running the show. Those people didn't break any laws as Rove, Bush, Cheney et all have. There was some ignorant people who thought that anyone who had a mind was communist. Boy would those folks love BushCo, the Fourth Reich. But, Bhairitu, the issue you brought up was throwing people who commit contempt of Congress in jail, which you are eager to do, and you cite quite specifically the procedure under law in which the Capital Hill Police can do that to Rove. The Hollywood Ten -- whether you may thing them to be right or wrong or whether you sympathize with their politics -- were held in contempt of Congress and, as a result, jailed. In fact, they appealed the conviction and brought the case to the Supreme Court and they lost. So it is not an issue of whether you like or dislike Joe McCarthy or like or dislike Karl Rove but of the breaking of laws and the jailing of those that break those laws. Again, I ask you a second time: to be consistent with your original argument, do you or do you not support the jailing of the Hollywood Ten?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Put Karl Rove Behind Bars
shempmcgurk wrote: But, Bhairitu, the issue you brought up was throwing people who commit contempt of Congress in jail, which you are eager to do, and you cite quite specifically the procedure under law in which the Capital Hill Police can do that to Rove. The Hollywood Ten -- whether you may thing them to be right or wrong or whether you sympathize with their politics -- were held in contempt of Congress and, as a result, jailed. In fact, they appealed the conviction and brought the case to the Supreme Court and they lost. So it is not an issue of whether you like or dislike Joe McCarthy or like or dislike Karl Rove but of the breaking of laws and the jailing of those that break those laws. Again, I ask you a second time: to be consistent with your original argument, do you or do you not support the jailing of the Hollywood Ten? No. There's quite a difference between the Hollywood Ten who hurt no one and the criminal activities of Rove. Obviously to anyone with a brain back in the 1950's the Hollywood Ten was protesting McCarthy's ridiculous hearing by not showing up. They didn't break any laws like Rove did. In Rove's case I'll stand behind Congress on it. They have the goods on his crimes which must be brought to trial. All Rove is doing is running like the fat little coward he is. Plus Congress just got more teeth: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Federal_judge_rules_Bush_aides_can_0731.html Apparently you are a big fan of corruption in government, Shempozilla.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the weekend I also attended an ISKCON festival at the Golden GAte Park in San Francisco, CA. The festival featured free food and entertainment. The food was delicious which included a sweet preparation called halava. The cook told me that the preparation was made of farina or semolina mixed with butter and sugar. You guys ought to try this food. You might like it. What turnip truck did you just fall off?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---right, but so far there's an inverse correlation between Pundit activity and natural disasters: the flooding in the Midwest and previously, total disaster in Madagascar. The more Pundits that come, = more disasters. The only reports I've ever seen for umpteen years and years and years are about ongoing construction and that eventually 'X' number of pundits will get to 'X' location. I don't recall *EVER* seeing a report that *all* the huge number of pundits promised over and over and over again here, to arrive there and everywhere, have *EVER* finally arrived *anywhere*. Someone please show me that I'm wrong. [snip]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the best explanation of negative behaviour from highly evolved beings
Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I left in '89 I began detatching in 1980 on a 80-day WPA. You sound like a very decisive person. How long do you look at a menu before you decide to order? How long does it take you to go to bed at night after you have the initial inclination? How long does it take you to use the bathroom, after you have that initial urge to go?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
Look at when Earl wrote the letter. At that time all indicators were that the pundits were not coming. I mean, after all, it had only been 12 years since they started collecting money to bring the pundits over and the promise was that they were coming, yes sir, there gonna be here real soon. 12 friggin' years later they show up! --- On Thu, 7/31/08, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 5:26 PM Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: globalcountryofwo/5F306E1D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/images/gcwp.jpg Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that after only two months, the 660-person, 96,000 square foot Vedic Pandit campus expansion in Maharishi Vedic City is nearing completion. As a result, 250 more Vedic Pandits will be arriving from India in groups of about 60 a week beginning August 12th! Also during this time the Vedic Pandits on the MUM campus will be moving to their new housing in Maharishi Vedic City, freeing up 200 rooms on the MUM campus for additional students and more Invincible America Assembly participants. By the end of August, 1050 Vedic Pandits will be flying together and attending to their daily Vedic routine together, helping to crown America with Invincibility. When this happens, the daily Super Radiance numbers will usually be more than 2000 in the mornings and 2250 in the evenings! This accomplishment of creating Invincibility for America is due to those who supported this project through donations and loans. America, and the world, will be forever grateful that you came forward to help Maharishi fulfill his desire for America to be Invincible America, an America at peace, a Vedic America. Now that 1000 Vedic Pandits will be all together, the Vedic Pandits have wondered if a large Mandap building could be constructed that could accommodate all of them at one time to perform certain Vedic performances. This large hall, built from specifications from India, would also be available to accommodate visitors. Surrounding the large hall would be several smaller Mandaps accommodating different Vedic Performances. The cost of the large Mandap building is $1 million and the smaller Mandaps are $100,000 each. If you, or someone you know, would like to donate toward the construction of these Vedic Mandaps please go to the Global Country http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f of World Peace website or send contributions to Global Country of World Peace, 2000 Capital Boulevard, Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, 52556. If you would like to make a loan for the construction of these Vedic Mandaps, in an amount of $100,000 or greater, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 (312) 324-0291. Below are three short video clips showing the new house construction, a tour of the inside of a Pandit house, and the Guru Purnima celebration with 121 Vedic Pandits inside the Men's Golden Dome on the MUM campus. To see a video clip just click on the picture or text underneath. Thank you for all you support in helping crown America with permanent Invincibility! Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html globalcountryofwo/643FD93D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html New Campus Construction http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html globalcountryofwo/643FD963.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html House Tour http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek.html globalcountryofwo/643FD989.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek.html Guru Purnima Celebration Click here to unsubscribe http://invincibleamerica.org/subscribe/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:29 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the weekend I also attended an ISKCON festival at the Golden GAte Park in San Francisco, CA. The festival featured free food and entertainment. The food was delicious which included a sweet preparation called halava. The cook told me that the preparation was made of farina or semolina mixed with butter and sugar. You guys ought to try this food. You might like it. What turnip truck did you just fall off? LOL...and isn't it made with sesame seeds? I loved the stuff until one time I got sick on some and haven't been able to eat it since. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at when Earl wrote the letter. At that time all indicators were that the pundits were not coming. I mean, after all, it had only been 12 years since they started collecting money to bring the pundits over and the promise was that they were coming, yes sir, there gonna be here real soon. 12 friggin' years later they show up! That's the claim. The 650 haven't shown up 'yet'. Like I said, The only reports I've ever seen for umpteen years and years and years are about ongoing construction and that eventually 'X' number of pundits will get to 'X' location. I don't recall *EVER* seeing a report that *all* the huge number of pundits promised over and over and over again here, to arrive there and everywhere, have *EVER* finally arrived *anywhere*. Someone please show me that I'm wrong. [snip] It is a great joy to announce that after only two months, the 660-person, 96,000 square foot Vedic Pandit campus expansion in Maharishi Vedic City is nearing completion. As a result, 250 more Vedic Pandits will be arriving from India in groups of about 60 a week beginning August 12th!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
Maybe Earl's letter was a major reason the TMO finally brought pundits over, just so they would not lose more donors or donations. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 6:39 PM Look at when Earl wrote the letter. At that time all indicators were that the pundits were not coming. I mean, after all, it had only been 12 years since they started collecting money to bring the pundits over and the promise was that they were coming, yes sir, there gonna be here real soon. 12 friggin' years later they show up! --- On Thu, 7/31/08, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 5:26 PM Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: globalcountryofwo/5F306E1D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/images/gcwp.jpg Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that after only two months, the 660-person, 96,000 square foot Vedic Pandit campus expansion in Maharishi Vedic City is nearing completion. As a result, 250 more Vedic Pandits will be arriving from India in groups of about 60 a week beginning August 12th! Also during this time the Vedic Pandits on the MUM campus will be moving to their new housing in Maharishi Vedic City, freeing up 200 rooms on the MUM campus for additional students and more Invincible America Assembly participants. By the end of August, 1050 Vedic Pandits will be flying together and attending to their daily Vedic routine together, helping to crown America with Invincibility. When this happens, the daily Super Radiance numbers will usually be more than 2000 in the mornings and 2250 in the evenings! This accomplishment of creating Invincibility for America is due to those who supported this project through donations and loans. America, and the world, will be forever grateful that you came forward to help Maharishi fulfill his desire for America to be Invincible America, an America at peace, a Vedic America. Now that 1000 Vedic Pandits will be all together, the Vedic Pandits have wondered if a large Mandap building could be constructed that could accommodate all of them at one time to perform certain Vedic performances. This large hall, built from specifications from India, would also be available to accommodate visitors. Surrounding the large hall would be several smaller Mandaps accommodating different Vedic Performances. The cost of the large Mandap building is $1 million and the smaller Mandaps are $100,000 each. If you, or someone you know, would like to donate toward the construction of these Vedic Mandaps please go to the Global Country http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f of World Peace website or send contributions to Global Country of World Peace, 2000 Capital Boulevard, Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa, 52556. If you would like to make a loan for the construction of these Vedic Mandaps, in an amount of $100,000 or greater, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 (312) 324-0291. Below are three short video clips showing the new house construction, a tour of the inside of a Pandit house, and the Guru Purnima celebration with 121 Vedic Pandits inside the Men's Golden Dome on the MUM campus. To see a video clip just click on the picture or text underneath. Thank you for all you support in helping crown America with permanent Invincibility! Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html globalcountryofwo/643FD93D.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/aerial_view_of_campus.html New Campus Construction http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html globalcountryofwo/643FD963.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/new_homes.html House Tour http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek.html globalcountryofwo/643FD989.jpg http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/video/guru_purnima_rudrabhishek.html Guru Purnima Celebration Click here to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:26 PM, feste37 wrote: Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? Not really. It was probably large and vocal protests from internet groups such as this, which effectively went public with their ruse, that forced them to come through.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
LOL! Do you think that a group like this has any influence on anything? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:26 PM, feste37 wrote: Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? Not really. It was probably large and vocal protests from internet groups such as this, which effectively went public with their ruse, that forced them to come through.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
The food was delicious which included a sweet preparation called halava. The cook told me that the preparation was made of farina or semolina mixed with butter and sugar. You guys ought to try this food. You might like it. What turnip truck did you just fall off? LOL...and isn't it made with sesame seeds? I loved the stuff until one time I got sick on some and haven't been able to eat it since. Good 'ol Halva that we all grew up with. Yea, Jewish halva is made with sesamee seeds, or at least the halva I always had. Krishna halva is made just as he describes, and it is quite tasty. It is the one dish you can count on being there anytime you dine at your local Krishna restraunt, (in addition to carrot and cabbage curry), They will have different varieties throughout the week.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Put Karl Rove Behind Bars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: But, Bhairitu, the issue you brought up was throwing people who commit contempt of Congress in jail, which you are eager to do, and you cite quite specifically the procedure under law in which the Capital Hill Police can do that to Rove. The Hollywood Ten -- whether you may thing them to be right or wrong or whether you sympathize with their politics -- were held in contempt of Congress and, as a result, jailed. In fact, they appealed the conviction and brought the case to the Supreme Court and they lost. So it is not an issue of whether you like or dislike Joe McCarthy or like or dislike Karl Rove but of the breaking of laws and the jailing of those that break those laws. Again, I ask you a second time: to be consistent with your original argument, do you or do you not support the jailing of the Hollywood Ten? No. There's quite a difference between the Hollywood Ten who hurt no one Well, neither did Julius and Ethel Rosenberg hurt no one, Bhairitu, when they passed secrets of the atomic bomb to the Soviets but they were executed for their crimes all the same. The Hollywood Ten didn't commit any crimes that we know of vis a vis their involvement in the Community Party but they did break the law by not cooperating with Congresss. And I suppose, like the Rosenbergs, they hurt no one by being members of the Communist Party. Of course, as a result of the opening up of the Sovit Archives since the fall of Communism, we now know that this the US Communist Party was committed to the illegal overthrow of the United States Government and was controlled not by party members but by a foreign entity (i.e., Joseph Stalin). And I suppose this activity hurt no one according to you, Bhairitu, but break the law they did by refusing to cooperate with Congress and into prison they deserved to go. and the criminal activities of Rove. Obviously to anyone with a brain back in the 1950's the Hollywood Ten was protesting McCarthy's ridiculous hearing by not showing up. They didn't break any laws like Rove did. In Rove's case I'll stand behind Congress on it. They have the goods on his crimes which must be brought to trial. All Rove is doing is running like the fat little coward he is. Plus Congress just got more teeth: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Federal_judge_rules_Bush_aides_can_0731. html Apparently you are a big fan of corruption in government, Shempozilla.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Put Karl Rove Behind Bars
shempmcgurk wrote: And I suppose this activity hurt no one according to you, Bhairitu, but break the law they did by refusing to cooperate with Congress and into prison they deserved to go. And we can also look at it this way if the Hollywood Ten had done anything near as destructive as Rove then indeed they should have been jailed for contempt.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
--- In --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? Earl's a nice guy, but he has only ever been right about one thing in his whole life: You can sell books to treachers and make a lot of money out of the school system OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] If what this author says is true, it's all over for Obama
[The Obama Nation] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1416598065/sr=8-1/qid=121755517\ 9/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8n=283155s=booksqid=1217555179sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/5z4ur6 http://tinyurl.com/5z4ur6 Jerome Corsi was co-author of the Swift Boat Book with John O'Neill which went a long way towards destroying John Kerry's chances for the presidency in '04. He's now written the above book about Obama that if his claims are true will bury Obama. With over 700 footnotes, he claims that Obama's history -- which he has tried to cover up -- is that of a far-left radical. And it's much, much more than just Rev. Wright or that convicted Weatherman Ayers who Barry palled around with. It will be interesting to see how things develop.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puja In Sunnyvale, California
On Jul 31, 2008, at 7:05 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: The food was delicious which included a sweet preparation called halava. The cook told me that the preparation was made of farina or semolina mixed with butter and sugar. You guys ought to try this food. You might like it. What turnip truck did you just fall off? LOL...and isn't it made with sesame seeds? I loved the stuff until one time I got sick on some and haven't been able to eat it since. Good 'ol Halva that we all grew up with. Yea, Jewish halva is made with sesamee seeds, or at least the halva I always had. Krishna halva is made just as he describes, and it is quite tasty. It is the one dish you can count on being there anytime you dine at your local Krishna restraunt, (in addition to carrot and cabbage curry), They will have different varieties throughout the week. It isn't really halva unless it's made with sesame seeds, IMO. what he describes sounds sort of like the vegan version. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] If what this author says is true, it's all over for Obama
shempmcgurk wrote: [The Obama Nation] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1416598065/sr=8-1/qid=121755517\ 9/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8n=283155s=booksqid=1217555179sr=8-1 http://tinyurl.com/5z4ur6 http://tinyurl.com/5z4ur6 Jerome Corsi was co-author of the Swift Boat Book with John O'Neill which went a long way towards destroying John Kerry's chances for the presidency in '04. He's now written the above book about Obama that if his claims are true will bury Obama. With over 700 footnotes, he claims that Obama's history -- which he has tried to cover up -- is that of a far-left radical. And it's much, much more than just Rev. Wright or that convicted Weatherman Ayers who Barry palled around with. It will be interesting to see how things develop. Just what we need is 4 years with an idiot like John McCain. Corsi has little credibility anymore, Shemp. I'd rather see the country burn down to the ground than have four more years of Republican thuggery.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? Earl Kaplan was frustrated about promises reqarding how money would be applied toward technology of consciousness that would result in world peace. Most of the funds he donated... like 99% were simply put in off-shore accounts( according to his investigation)in Mahesh's real name. He was disappointed, indignant and shocked. I think his assessment represents a lot of exageration. Obiously, TM had huge benefits for tens of thousands... perhaps hundreds of thousands. Earl is saying that TM is no better than Herbert Benson's technique of repeating 'one' as a mantra and he's saying that people are getting brainwashed by a negative hierarchy of astral beings, etc. etc. He's not the first to have this assessment. All we can do is look at the health and well being of the long term practitioners. I visited Fairfield for two days in 2000 some of the 20 year sidhas looked ok for their age Some looked well let's just say they looked they've been... using the exact same technology of consciousness for more than a decade too long. Back to Earl and David. In exchange for the tens of millions donated, they did get one thing: they became insiders... MMY was candid with then the way he was candid with Charlie Lutes and others he considered to be his friend. MMY shot straight with Earl when he explained the dilema of following thru on the promise of assembling pundits to chant vedas and improve the world... if it failed, then he would be forever discredited. That's what Earl was saying when he predicted their would never be a group coming to the US he was saying that MMY would do whatever it takes to avoid losing face. If he only added that it won't happen while MMY is alive... then he would've been acurate. Actually, MMY either coined the phrase, technology of conscious... or popularized it within his sphere of influence... and overall, he will go down in history a real philosopher... pursuing social experiments, that had noticable effects. Like I said in my first post: White Album. Proof is in the pudding. The previous three albums were also great... it's just that we know some of these terrific songs on the White Album were a product of retreat in Rishikesh. The quality of these songs is through the roof. And TM helped. The retreat helped. I knew that Sexy Sady was about MMY. I didn't care... at age 18... I made the assumption that TM helped the Beatles take their music to the next level. Same eith Eastwood, Burette, ReynoldsDonavan might be the exception his talent might've been greater prior to being initiated. Same with Brian Wilson. LSD was a real problem in '68. LSD ruined Syd Barret's carreer. So we needed a natural alternative to psychedelic drugs in '68 - '70. What MMY contributed in this regard will make the history books. Hendrix and Morrison were probably too self-destructive to be saved with a mental technique however, the typical hippie was just interested in alternatives to the anti-conscious bs that came to a head with Vietnam... and assinations... and CIA...and corporate greed. What he achieved from a marketing standpoint deserves to be studied and admired in Harvard Business School. On the other hand, 125,000 repetitions is all you should ever need from one mantra. 125,000 repetitions is enough to get the entire physiology resonating with the sound of that mantra. I knew there was a problem when my friends who saved their pennies to get the bliss technique for $700 told me they were shocked and dismayed to get instructed in a technique they had already been doing on their own. Intuitively, I knew that I was already doing it, too... I just picked up telapathicly what the technique was... and I'm thinking, yea, I play with that. So that helped me to start detaching. And at that point, I would be reluctant to trust MMY with anything ever... not anything that costs money, anyway. $400 to add a syllable to my mantra? He pushed me away with this behaviour. And he lost credibility. I had no idea he was socking money away in secret personal accounts until Dr. Castle told me about his interaction with the Kaplans. I got that information in 2004, 15 years after I left the TMO. Socking away a few million no biggie. socking away 900 million is just plain bizarre. Aparently this site is 90% guys. in their late fifties, and early sixties who are split on the subject of this technology of consciousness being extremely beneficial to the world or marginally
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
That's what Earl was saying when he predicted their would never be a group coming to the US he was saying that MMY would do whatever it takes to avoid losing face. If he only added that it won't happen while MMY is alive... then he would've been acurate. Pundits were here while MMY was still alive. When our solar system aligns with the center of the galaxy in 2010-13 This is nonsense. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:52 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? Earl Kaplan was frustrated about promises reqarding how money would be applied toward technology of consciousness that would result in world peace. Most of the funds he donated... like 99% were simply put in off-shore accounts( according to his investigation)in Mahesh's real name. He was disappointed, indignant and shocked. I think his assessment represents a lot of exageration. Obiously, TM had huge benefits for tens of thousands... perhaps hundreds of thousands. Earl is saying that TM is no better than Herbert Benson's technique of repeating 'one' as a mantra and he's saying that people are getting brainwashed by a negative hierarchy of astral beings, etc. etc. He's not the first to have this assessment. All we can do is look at the health and well being of the long term practitioners. I visited Fairfield for two days in 2000 some of the 20 year sidhas looked ok for their age Some looked well let's just say they looked they've been... using the exact same technology of consciousness for more than a decade too long. Back to Earl and David. In exchange for the tens of millions donated, they did get one thing: they became insiders... MMY was candid with then the way he was candid with Charlie Lutes and others he considered to be his friend. MMY shot straight with Earl when he explained the dilema of following thru on the promise of assembling pundits to chant vedas and improve the world... if it failed, then he would be forever discredited. That's what Earl was saying when he predicted their would never be a group coming to the US he was saying that MMY would do whatever it takes to avoid losing face. If he only added that it won't happen while MMY is alive... then he would've been acurate. Actually, MMY either coined the phrase, technology of conscious... or popularized it within his sphere of influence... and overall, he will go down in history a real philosopher... pursuing social experiments, that had noticable effects. Like I said in my first post: White Album. Proof is in the pudding. The previous three albums were also great... it's just that we know some of these terrific songs on the White Album were a product of retreat in Rishikesh. The quality of these songs is through the roof. And TM helped. The retreat helped. I knew that Sexy Sady was about MMY. I didn't care... at age 18... I made the assumption that TM helped the Beatles take their music to the next level. Same eith Eastwood, Burette, ReynoldsDonavan might be the exception his talent might've been greater prior to being initiated. Same with Brian Wilson. LSD was a real problem in '68. LSD ruined Syd Barret's carreer. So we needed a natural alternative to psychedelic drugs in '68 - '70. What MMY contributed in this regard will make the history books. Hendrix and Morrison were probably too self-destructive to be saved with a mental technique however, the typical hippie was just interested in alternatives to the anti-conscious bs that came to a head with Vietnam... and assinations... and CIA...and corporate greed. What he achieved from a marketing standpoint deserves to be studied and admired in Harvard Business School. On the other hand, 125,000 repetitions is all you should ever need from one mantra. 125,000 repetitions is enough to get the entire physiology resonating with the sound of that mantra. I knew there was a problem when my friends who saved their pennies to get the bliss technique for $700 told me they were shocked and dismayed to get instructed in a technique they had already been doing on their own. Intuitively, I knew that I was already doing it, too... I just picked up telapathicly what the technique was... and I'm thinking, yea, I play with that. So that helped me to start detaching. And at that point, I would be reluctant to trust MMY with
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the best explanation of negative behaviour from highly evolved beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael James Flatley untilbeyond@ wrote: I left in '89 I began detatching in 1980 on a 80-day WPA. You sound like a very decisive person. How long do you look at a menu before you decide to order? How long does it take you to go to bed at night after you have the initial inclination? How long does it take you to use the bathroom, after you have that initial urge to go? Yes I was slow to leave. MIU was a good fit at 19. I made my college friends and bonded with the community, got my first home, etc. The networking with other eclectic types (not the robots) introduced me to a lot of areas that I still find helpful. I was introduced to holistic medicine by an MIU friend in '79. Took workshops off campus in '81. My best compliment to MMY is that his charisma and practical philosohpy created a magnet, drawing seekers together. Entire families exist from all these various TTC courses and other gatherings, and especially MIU. I have very fond momories of the community. What's your real point? That I'm a retard for continuing to trust MMY after I had my doubts? Is that your real point? Isn't that what we all did? -MJF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the best explanation of negative behaviour from highly evolved beings
I left in '89 I began detatching in 1980 on a 80-day WPA. You sound like a very decisive person. How long do you look at a menu before you decide to order? Yes I was slow to leave. MIU was a good fit at 19. snip What's your real point? That I'm a retard for continuing to trust MMY after I had my doubts? Is that your real point? Isn't that what we all did? Yea, we did. I graduated and left in '81, but my heart was still in it until about about '91. Traditional family life took over then. I continued doing group program at the center until I got married in '89. I never have developed any bitterness towards my experience in TMO. Like many, my long involvement closed the door to other opportunities, but no bitterness on my part. I don't detect that with you either. In fact, I remember you from my days at MIU. Contact me on the side if you want to more info on that. Glad to hear you are doing well, and am enjoying your input. Especially enjoyed your research on the 2012 deal. My take on that, is that many of the changes are taking place right now. I'm inclined to think that the 2012 date will just be the tipping point with things currently building up to that. On the other hand, often these dates come and go with nothing much happening, don't they?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! Do you think that a group like this has any influence on anything? *** Hey, if you think this list is bad: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO
Is fabulous theatre, for anyone watching . Harris Kaplan gives the directors report: http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/19_jul_08.wmv The TM-org Multi-plex: https://capitalofworldpeace.org/Page2.html The Indians-Only-World Peace Movement: http://www.peace-movement.net/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raja of India Harris Kaplan on Guru Purnima . watch - listen - and learn the extant that revenues in the TMO will continue to be shipped to India. This is sobering, and unless the policies change dramatically, bodes ill for the TM movement in outside of India, as nearly all assets and future fund-raising will be sent to finance TM India's enormous infrastructure and pandit maintenance plans. What are they thinking ? Westerners would have to have severe guilt to accomodate the on-going abusive confiscatory attitude that will apparently continue to drain financial resources in the West for the benefit of India. http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/19_jul_08.wmv Om
[FairfieldLife] Re: 250 More Vedic Pandits Arriving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re-reading Earl Kaplan's letter, which has been the subject of some discussion here recently, I was struck by his confident prediction that There are no pundits and there will never be a group coming over to the U.S. Wrong, of course. Makes you wonder what else Earl might have been wrong about, doesn't it? At the time he was proly right about it. In time though it was his letter and what happened with him that has helped tie donations more towards specific projects. Cost accountability. Is a different world now and a different movement somewhat possibly
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is fabulous theatre, for anyone watching . Harris Kaplan gives the directors report: http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/19_jul_08.wmv The TM-org Multi-plex: https://capitalofworldpeace.org/Page2.html The Indians-Only-World Peace Movement: http://www.peace-movement.net/ Sorry, this whole thing of Girish's still doesn't pass the smell test. Sure, they've added a page on da King (no doubt added after some back and forth with Holland) which is just a letter from him wishing the new organisation good luck... http://www.peace-movement.net/RajaRamMessage.html ...but the Administrative Structure still makes NO MENTION OF da King... http://www.peace-movement.net/Administrative.html Now, I ask you: if Girish truly wanted Holland and da King to be a part of things, wouldn't the all-important Administrative Structure at the very least have SOME MENTION OF HIM What would give you more assurance that Holland and da King (and for that matter Rajah-riffic Kaplan) are the top dogs in India: a letter of platitudes...or...actual mention as part of the administrative structure? Girish Varmint: a man appeased in the short term. A man not long for the TMO in the long term. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: Raja of India Harris Kaplan on Guru Purnima . watch - listen - and learn the extant that revenues in the TMO will continue to be shipped to India. This is sobering, and unless the policies change dramatically, bodes ill for the TM movement in outside of India, as nearly all assets and future fund-raising will be sent to finance TM India's enormous infrastructure and pandit maintenance plans. What are they thinking ? Westerners would have to have severe guilt to accomodate the on-going abusive confiscatory attitude that will apparently continue to drain financial resources in the West for the benefit of India. http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Chat/19_jul_08.wmv Om
