[FairfieldLife] Re: George Harrison the last performance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: Excellent find! He was my favorite Beatle. At least he has something useful to say :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Forget Turq, Curtis and the Vaj fellow, they've lost it. Listen to what George Harrison has to say instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50LfH0I879gfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmG0R9S2Qgfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Review: FFL Catfight II: Scratch Your Third Eye Out
It's always difficult reviewing the sequel to a low-budget cult film that has become an underground hit. Will they do better with a budget 1000X bigger than the original (as Desperado did as a followup to El Mariachi), or will the big stars and special effects just mess up a good thing? Sadly, this critic feels that FFL Catfight II may be a victim of the latter phenomenon. Certainly casting Bollywood star Shahrukh Khan as Ravi (instead of the delivery boy from the New Delhi Deli) was a mistake. Dancing and ranting go together like ghee and water; just sayin'. Also, using special effects to make it seem as though Nabby's Space Brothers were real and not just a figment of his imagination was a mistake, as was casting Sacha Baron Cohen in the role of Maitreya. Some things are better left to the imagination. Kathy Bates may be nominated for an Oscar for her role as Judy; having all her teeth pulled so that she could do the safe posting blowjob scene was method acting to the max, way up there with De Niro gaining 40 pounds for Raging Bull. I enjoyed Brad Pitt in the role of Curtis as well; we all knew he could chew gum after his recent baseball movie, but who knew he could do it while singing the blues? No Catfight film is complete without its...duh...catfights, and this sequel has a few of them. The I'm more enlightened than you are duel between Jim (played by Val Kilmer) and Ravi was a classic, right up there with the glow-in-the-dark condom duel in Skin Deep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5u6vm44ak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5u6vm44ak ). And of course having MaskedZebra (played by fellow Canadian Dan Ackroyd) take on all comers in a I'm more first person ontologically sincere than you are hockey match was inspired, even if he did end up pucking himself by refusing to quit swinging every time the director yelled Cut. Splicing in occasional single frames of Yifu's fantastic art postings every so often was interesting, but IMO did not work as well as David Fincher doing the same with a split-second subliminal penis shot at the end of Fight Club. I enjoyed the Plaster Casters Forever song dance number starring Emily, Obbajeeba and Judy, even though it pushed the envelope of good taste, and I quite enjoyed SeventhRay wandering through almost every scene trying to make sense of it all like Diogenes looking for an honest man. But on the whole I thought the original low-budget FFL Catfight might have been the better film. There was more lean-and-hungry creativity to it, and fewer decisions that seemed to pander to a larger, less discriminating audience. The scene in which the mob tries to lynch the Vaj character while carrying torches and chanting Liar! Liar! Liar!, only to be foiled at the last minute by the Compassion Police, was completely unbelievable. Every viewer of the first film knows there is no compassion on FFL, much less a police squad to enforce it. In summation, I think your weekend movie allowance might be better spent on a re-viewing of the original film. The *only* decision made in the sequel that seemed better was casting George Clooney as Turq, and letting Michael Fassbender act as his stunt double for the full frontal nudity shots. Now *that* was inspired.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Speaks with the Divine Mother in Kashmir
Site posted by Rick Archer Contents: * Home - In Loving Memory http://www.maharishiphotos.com/index.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi w/ Charlie Lutes http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmycl.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi w/ Helen Lutes http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmyhl.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi w/ Both http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmyhlcl.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Photo Gallery 1 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmy1.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Photo Gallery 2 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmy2.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Photo Gallery 3 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmy3.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Photo Gallery 4 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmy4.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Photo Gallery 5 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmy57.html * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Photo Gallery 6 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmy68.html * Charlie Lutes Writings http://www.maharishiphotos.com/write1.html * Lectures by Charlie Lutes Nos. 1 - 27 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture1.html * Lectures by Charlie Lutes Nos. 28 - 54 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture28.html * Lectures by Charlie Lutes Nos. 55 - 81 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture55.html * Lectures by Charlie Lutes Nos. 82 - 108 http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture82.html * Memoirs of Charlie Lutes http://www.maharishiphotos.com/memintro.html * Charlie Lutes on Tour With Maharishi http://www.maharishiphotos.com/history1.html * Maharishi Speaks With Mother Divine http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html * Introduction to Transcendental Meditation http://www.maharishiphotos.com/tmintro.html * Reflections of a Devotee http://www.maharishiphotos.com/devotee.html * A Healing Experience http://www.maharishiphotos.com/healing.html * A Friend Remembers Charlie http://www.maharishiphotos.com/friend.html * More Websites By Vince Daczynski http://www.maharishiphotos.com/otrsites.html Maharishi Speaks with Mother Divine [Maharishi Mahesh Yogi] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Phtograph by Charles F. Lutes Shortly after founding the Spiritual Regeneration Movement in 1959 Maharishi contacted Mother Divine and pleaded with her to alleviate the missery of humanity. Mother Divine explained that help for humanity was not to come from her because humanity is doomed; this is the cycle of time which demands that humanity increasingly suffers; it is the conduct of the people that brings them their suffering. Then Mother Divine encouraged Maharishi to continue with his spiritual plan to gather as many individual Lights as he could, and by these collective Lights it would be possible to destroy the darkness in the world for a temporary period of up to a few thousand years. The following eight pages are a scan of the original unedited historic transcript of a tape recording of Maharishi speaking about his conversation with the Divine Mother. Maharishi wanted all of his initiators and meditators to be aware of this message from Mother. [Maharishi-Mother Divine] [Maharishi-Mother Divine] [Maharishi-Mother Divine] [Maharishi-Mother Divine] [Maharishi-Mother Divine] [Maharishi-Mother Divine] [Maharishi-Mother Divine] [Maharishi-Mother Divine] Note: In one of Charlie Lutes' lectures he said, If, in the future, there comes a point where the thinking becomes so negative as to make recovery or balance in nature impossible, then the divine Intelligence calls forth the God of fire, or the God of water, to give humanity what their thinking has called for, and mass destruction of this earth begins. Volcanic action cracks the earth's crust open and the crust then breaks up and begins to sink and the water covers the earth and a large segment of humanity is removed from earth; then, a new land mass rises to the surface to support a new civilization that conforms to the laws of nature and who loves God. This is not wholly necessary if humanity will only change their ways and turn to God and start supporting nature. However, in the main, the opposite is occurring. One on the spiritual path develops an inner quality of goodness that creates in them a desire to support nature and not run contra to the laws of nature. They are very aware of karma and they desire to create good karma through all of their thinking, speaking and doing. This is what is called, living the good life, for good does come to the good and evil comes to those who create evil. This is due to the law of cause and effect and we should always remember this at all times. If we choose the low path in life we inherit the low, and if we walk the high path, we receive the light of God and his blessings. It is for us to choose, and we have the free will to do so.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: I have never read before MMY talking about direct Celestial communication. Good stuff! Thanks for finding this! Yes truly wonderful find. There are several incidents like this from India where he spoke with Her, particularily in the South at Rameshwaram and Kanyakumari. Also there is a small temple in Old Delhi where Maharishi received the Siddhis from Her. I'll try to find the name and post to you privately. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Here is a transcript of a tape recording of Maharishi speaking about a conversation with Mother Divine on dealing withe negativity in the world in each Heart. Maharishi Speaks with Mother Divine No. 59, 'Living the Good Life' http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week
On Jan 17, 2012, at 11:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Good post, Curtis. The one point you left out is that RWC is no more original in his denunciations of Vaj than he is about anything else. The guy seems *incapable* of having an original idea; everything he's saying about Vaj came directly from Judy, or her words filtered through Jim or Ravi or Nabby. *No one else* ever had any doubts about Vaj's TM pedigree until she started her Gotta find a way to demonize Vaj so no one will believe him when he makes valid points campaign. Very observant and accurate, thanks!
[FairfieldLife] Oldies but goldies: Real South Park?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKbfUp-7iEIfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: Since most people don't have this experience there are folks who fake this to take advantage of others. Too bad - leads to rampant cynicism. However there are indications wrt the experience that can speak to its validity, or not. Maharishi's account reads as genuine. Can you guess why? No, *not* because it is Maharishi... With followers like Curtis it's not surpising Maharishi was on the verge of giving up and retire to the Himalayas several times. Having to deal with, excuse my wording, idiots like Curtis withing his own organization must have been very taxing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I believe in the phenomenon just not the interpretation of what it means. Excellent. People have all *sorts* of experiences. And to them (us) they're very real at the time. It's in the interpretation of what these experiences mean that the rubber often fails to meet the road. It is well known capacity of our brains. In some conditions our ability to distinguish inner and outer mental experience gets confused. That is my take on the sincere ones. Mine, too. I have no reason to believe that Roberts was less sincere in having a dramatic experience than Maharishi. I have compassion for Mr. Roberts. Imagine trying to be a Fundamentalist Christian preacher while having the first name of Oral. Guy's had an uphill battle. It is just funny how convenient they both came out to be for their own desires. A trend I have noticed as well. I am not really sure that Maharishi is not just reporting a dramatic conversation he had with himself in the context of a temple using Mother Divine as an artistic literary device. I don't remember who said it first, but a quote I always liked was I know that I am God because every time I talk to him I find that I am talking to myself. That would be my best guess. He was reporting his thoughts in a more dramatic way taking some poetic license to punch the story up a bit. One could make the case that the Ramayana did exactly the same thing, expanding on a simple soap opera story about adultery and rage and turning it into some kind of high, spiritual epic. He did a similar thing I believe when he claimed that Vasishtha came onto him last night! It lead to a perspective about the Vedas. LOL. I have my doubts that he saw himself in as mystical a light as he projected to us. I have my doubts that Maharishi ever saw himself, period. I think his brain was racing so fast and that he was so enamored with it that he never had a chance to self-reflect. Judith's book makes me believe he was more of a poetic devise guy than a I just talked to Mother Divine for real real guy. YMMV Device. But yeah. He was a storyteller, telling tall tales to the children. Who ate it up like gumdrops. But my guess is that there are way more people who actually experience something dramatic than people who are outright lying through their teeth. I've had ones like it so I understand how compelling they are. I would agree. On the whole, the people I like and prefer to hang with are the ones who have such experiences and then work on figuring out WTF they might have been with some measure of humility, and humor. Those who claim to know what such experiences were and what they meant, not so much.
[FairfieldLife] Finn against Finn!
It seems to be bad news for Finnish Nokia that US Army changed Windows to Finnish Linux! :/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Judgment:
Em, now that is a chakra-tuning song to sing. A number of us long-time conservative Fairfield meditators here like singing that one too. Sing we sing together most every week. Some of us sing every day. JGD, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I leave eternity to thee...  I think a few sacred harp singers are needed...Idumea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_QFvkPJvwfeature=related IDUMEA And am I born to die? To lay this body down! And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown? A land of deepest shade, Unpierced by human thought The dreary regions of the dead, Where all things are forgot. Soon as from earth I go What will become of me? Eternal happiness or woe, Must then my portion be! Waked by the trumpet sound, I from my grave shall rise; And see the Judge with glory crowned, And see the flaming skies! From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Judgment:  Friends I want to share with you all one of the greatest sermons ever given that was written by a Transcendentalist. You know in working with livestock, inflection is often nine tenths of the communication. It is not at all so much what is said, but how it is said. I see that much of the problem with discussions here on this list is that people can't hear how things are being said as to what is being said. Likewise, in this whole discussion around the FFL resolution on sin, it seems something is being lost in the print that keeps people from converting. Take a listen to this. It sounds remarkable like to how I sound when I write. I hope this is helpful to some of you who have trouble with what I write here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mog0W6Jwj0Q Kindly from the Unified Field ever vigilante, -Buck The Greek word for sin in the Bible is 'amarkon' which means to miss the mark. Yes; !Amarkoners repent! Yes, it is in the Greek I pray for these really big Amarkoners here to return home. These TM expatriates. The ex-patriots indeed. Here we have one of the biggest natural law peace-creating things going on and these guys spurn it always puking on it here. That is spiritual sin in the Greek way as also per the FFL Resolution on Sin too. Is perfectly fair to judge who is with us in this natural law too as transcendentalists and who is against it, and us. It is calling sin for what it is, a sin a sin. Thank you for your very learned comments. An old and Kindly meditator, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Teaching the Knowledge * As a teacher, there is a different, more difficult lesson that must be accepted personally: if someone chosen by the Unified Field to be a prophet or a leader refuses to teach the truth, as Jonah did for example, then Nature will visit a terrible punishment on them. * However, the reverse is even more true�Nature will grant favor and delight to those who do preach the truth. Om, Om, Om, come back, come back to meditation you sinners. The bell tolls for thee, In warm regard of natural law, -Buck in FF This is kind of heavy handed Buck. Fortunately I am not immune to being heavy handed in thought, and as Barry would possibly say, overbearing and pompous. If the unified field is truth, one cannot actually speak it, one can only point to it because it is transcendent to speech. All speech in the world in reference to it is as a lie. Nature is not personal, it visits on one without regard to person. Favour and delight are the experience of those who experience the unified field, but nature remains the same impersonal force of will that is the unified field, enlightened or unenlightened. It is not will as a person imagines will to be; it is far more mysterious and inscrutable. The Greek word for sin in the Bible is 'amarkon' which means to miss the mark. In the West the Christian idea of sin seems to be the predominant meaning, and it has many connotations that seem to go quite beyond simply missing the mark. But usage that is common here has many judgmental implications that really serve no useful purpose if your aim is to point people in the direction of enlightenment. If you 'look' at the process of transcendental meditation, what you experience is you are handing off the process and letting nature take it over. That is it. If we are able to culture our system to do that under all circumstances, we are home free. It is the personal sense of will that interferes with this process in daily life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? Just wondering, where you are coming from. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Also there is a small temple in Old Delhi where Maharishi received the Siddhis from Her. I'll try to find the name and post to you privately. You are just the gift that keeps on giving aren't you Nabbie? S since we know from his own admission that Maharishi was experimenting trial and error on those first 6 month courses, was it because she was a bad teacher or was he a bad student? I'm imagining the HDHD Maharishi sitting close to Her (note the capital to indicate maximum woo woo) and just when she leans in to describe the details of sunyama, his head whips around and he says squirrel, squirrel! And so the teaching was lost. Or perhaps knowing Maharishi as we do now he might have just been staring at her headlights. (In his defense they are supernaturally perky for her age and She swears that she has had not work done. Coughsbotox Did that joke get through? I am trying to figure out how to write out the coughing sound that ends in the word botox in the cough-talking style of Jon Stewart.) BTW I was chatting with one of my favorite space brothers the other day playing chess actually (like our earth brothers he learned it in lock up) and he was indicating that She learned a thing or two during her Mahayuga cycles concerning some practices that involved the erotic possibilities that come from having 6 arms. If you have any inside dope on this please email me privately. I've got an idea that revolves around 3 Filipino hookers and a roll of duct tape that I want to run by you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I have never read before MMY talking about direct Celestial communication. Good stuff! Thanks for finding this! Yes truly wonderful find. There are several incidents like this from India where he spoke with Her, particularily in the South at Rameshwaram and Kanyakumari. Also there is a small temple in Old Delhi where Maharishi received the Siddhis from Her. I'll try to find the name and post to you privately. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Here is a transcript of a tape recording of Maharishi speaking about a conversation with Mother Divine on dealing withe negativity in the world in each Heart. Maharishi Speaks with Mother Divine No. 59, 'Living the Good Life' http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF I wouldn't bother to reply, but I kinda like the metaphor of all of us TMers as pigs riding in a cart to the market. It is heartening to learn that those who stayed on the cart still are looking forward to a bright future at the market, while considering those of us who wriggled away as the losers in this scenario. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Justified is back
And our patient wait is...uh...justified. There was more snappy, Elmore Leonard-style dialog in the first five minutes of the first episode of the third season than there has been on TV as a whole since...uh...the last episode of the second season. Timothy Oliphant continues to be wonderful as Marshal Raylan Givens, as do the rest of the regular cast -- Nick Searcy, Joelle Carter, Natalie Zea, and Walton Goggins. And there are a couple of new faces. Good villain in the first episode, too, well played by Desmond Harrington from Dexter. If you haven't been following Justified all along, you could probably drop into it starting with this season without feeling that you've missed too much. But why deprive yourself? If there is any TV series that deserves to be seen from the beginning, it's this one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. See, what we here have not yet realized, is we are all wrong. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF I wouldn't bother to reply, but I kinda like the metaphor of all of us TMers as pigs riding in a cart to the market. It is heartening to learn that those who stayed on the cart still are looking forward to a bright future at the market, while considering those of us who wriggled away as the losers in this scenario. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. See, what we here have not yet realized, is we are all wrong. Yes, spiritual sinners as Yogananda or the Greeks would describe it. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF I wouldn't bother to reply, but I kinda like the metaphor of all of us TMers as pigs riding in a cart to the market. It is heartening to learn that those who stayed on the cart still are looking forward to a bright future at the market, while considering those of us who wriggled away as the losers in this scenario. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Judgment:
Beautiful video and chant, even if you're not a conservative meditator. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Em, now that is a chakra-tuning song to sing. A number of us long-time conservative Fairfield meditators here like singing that one too. Sing we sing together most every week. Some of us sing every day. JGD, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I leave eternity to thee...  I think a few sacred harp singers are needed...Idumea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_QFvkPJvwfeature=related IDUMEA And am I born to die? To lay this body down! And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown? A land of deepest shade, Unpierced by human thought The dreary regions of the dead, Where all things are forgot. Soon as from earth I go What will become of me? Eternal happiness or woe, Must then my portion be! Waked by the trumpet sound, I from my grave shall rise; And see the Judge with glory crowned, And see the flaming skies! From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Judgment:  Friends I want to share with you all one of the greatest sermons ever given that was written by a Transcendentalist. You know in working with livestock, inflection is often nine tenths of the communication. It is not at all so much what is said, but how it is said. I see that much of the problem with discussions here on this list is that people can't hear how things are being said as to what is being said. Likewise, in this whole discussion around the FFL resolution on sin, it seems something is being lost in the print that keeps people from converting. Take a listen to this. It sounds remarkable like to how I sound when I write. I hope this is helpful to some of you who have trouble with what I write here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mog0W6Jwj0Q Kindly from the Unified Field ever vigilante, -Buck The Greek word for sin in the Bible is 'amarkon' which means to miss the mark. Yes; !Amarkoners repent! Yes, it is in the Greek I pray for these really big Amarkoners here to return home. These TM expatriates. The ex-patriots indeed. Here we have one of the biggest natural law peace-creating things going on and these guys spurn it always puking on it here. That is spiritual sin in the Greek way as also per the FFL Resolution on Sin too. Is perfectly fair to judge who is with us in this natural law too as transcendentalists and who is against it, and us. It is calling sin for what it is, a sin a sin. Thank you for your very learned comments. An old and Kindly meditator, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Teaching the Knowledge * As a teacher, there is a different, more difficult lesson that must be accepted personally: if someone chosen by the Unified Field to be a prophet or a leader refuses to teach the truth, as Jonah did for example, then Nature will visit a terrible punishment on them. * However, the reverse is even more true�Nature will grant favor and delight to those who do preach the truth. Om, Om, Om, come back, come back to meditation you sinners. The bell tolls for thee, In warm regard of natural law, -Buck in FF This is kind of heavy handed Buck. Fortunately I am not immune to being heavy handed in thought, and as Barry would possibly say, overbearing and pompous. If the unified field is truth, one cannot actually speak it, one can only point to it because it is transcendent to speech. All speech in the world in reference to it is as a lie. Nature is not personal, it visits on one without regard to person. Favour and delight are the experience of those who experience the unified field, but nature remains the same impersonal force of will that is the unified field, enlightened or unenlightened. It is not will as a person imagines will to be; it is far more mysterious and inscrutable. The Greek word for sin in the Bible is 'amarkon' which means to miss the mark. In the West the Christian idea of sin seems to be the predominant meaning, and it has many connotations that seem to go quite beyond simply missing the mark. But usage that is common here has many judgmental implications that really serve no useful purpose if your aim is to point people in the direction of enlightenment. If you 'look' at the process of transcendental meditation, what you experience
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. See, what we here have not yet realized, is we are all wrong. Yes, spiritual sinners as Yogananda or the Greeks would describe it. Yup, and some are particularly bad as the FFL resolution on sin here enumerates it. Yep, come repent you sinners, get your meditations checked at a satsang near you and !come back to meditation! You are always welcome and you don't need no stinking badge neither to come back home to meditation. Kindly, -Buck in FF Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF I wouldn't bother to reply, but I kinda like the metaphor of all of us TMers as pigs riding in a cart to the market. It is heartening to learn that those who stayed on the cart still are looking forward to a bright future at the market, while considering those of us who wriggled away as the losers in this scenario. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
You can still access the English Wikipedia. They simply redirect you to a special page using JavaScript. If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser, you have access. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Date: January 16, 2012 Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United Statesâthe Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senateâthat, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia. This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public protest of this nature, and it's a decision that wasn't lightly made. Here's how it's been described by the three Wikipedia administrators who formally facilitated the community's discussion. From the public statement, signed by User:NuclearWarfare, User:Risker and User:Billinghurst: It is the opinion of the English Wikipedia community that both of these bills, if passed, would be devastating to the free and open web. Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a blackout of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support. On careful review of this discussion, the closing administrators note the broad-based support for action from Wikipedians around the world, not just from within the United States. The primary objection to a global blackout came from those who preferred that the blackout be limited to readers from the United States, with the rest of the world seeing a simple banner notice instead. We also noted that roughly 55% of those supporting a blackout preferred that it be a global one, with many pointing to concerns about similar legislation in other nations. In making this decision, Wikipedians will be criticized for seeming to abandon neutrality to take a political position. That's a real, legitimate issue. We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them. But although Wikipedia's articles are neutral, its existence is not. As Wikimedia Foundation board member Kat Walsh wrote on one of our mailing lists recently, We depend on a legal infrastructure that makes it possible for us to operate. And we depend on a legal infrastructure that also allows other sites to host user-contributed material, both information and expression. For the most part, Wikimedia projects are organizing and summarizing and collecting the world's knowledge. We're putting it in context, and showing people how to make to sense of it. But that knowledge has to be published somewhere for anyone to find and use it. Where it can be censored without due process, it hurts the speaker, the public, and Wikimedia. Where you can only speak if you have sufficient resources to fight legal challenges, or, if your views are pre-approved by someone who does, the same narrow set of ideas already popular will continue to be all anyone has meaningful access to. The decision to shut down the English Wikipedia wasn't made by me; it was made by editors, through a consensus decision-making process. But I support it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in Majorca in 1969. I was 14 at the time. I remember paying one week's allowance for this. I transferred from Colgate University in 1975 to MIU after attending an SCI course at Livingston Manor. It blew me away and I just had to come to FF! I attended MIU from the Fall of 1975 until graduation in 1980. I left FF for a while living in upstate NY with my then boyfriend and fellow MIU graduate. After a couple of years I returned to FF (don't we all at some time?) and taught a horseback riding program with another friend of mine for the students and meditators in town. Around that time I also had a friend that had attended the first Robin Carlsen lecture in town. Their description of it intrigued me. I proceeded to watch a seminar tape, was blown away by that and jumped head first into the most amazing three and a half years of my life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? Just wondering, where you are coming from. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Justified is back
Walton Goggins is one of my favorite actors since the Shield. I checked it out last night for the first time. Great scene visuals. Its like they had a set designer and location finder saying, gritty, I need more gritty over and over. I'm still a little lost on the characters but I'll hang in there to catch up. Thanks for the heads up. Since we are in the TV discussion I agree that Alcatraz isn't worth it. If that chick in Prime Suspect couldn't float a series with 10 times the personality as this chick, this doesn't have a chance. But I give the actress in Prime Suspect props for pulling off the hot chick as tough detective more believably than most. I remember she is one of your favs. The next thing I want to see on all these shows is some reaction when they come across a dead body other than immediate comedic banter or casual conversation as if they are just too used to this to care anymore. I've seen real cops filmed crying at crime scenes or at least looking like they are standing over a bloody dead body. And I know pros have a lot of gallows humor to deal with all this and they probably do grow a tough skin, but freak'n flinch or something, the guy just got his head blown off. My complaint about the early James Bonds was that they entered a room as if no one was going to shoot that them. I really liked how Timothy Hutton entered a room with suspicious darting eyes, scanning for trouble. It made it more believable for me. It's like Tarantino's philosophy of film violence. In his flicks, if someone gets shot, they hurt and they bleed and it sucks and you know it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: And our patient wait is...uh...justified. There was more snappy, Elmore Leonard-style dialog in the first five minutes of the first episode of the third season than there has been on TV as a whole since...uh...the last episode of the second season. Timothy Oliphant continues to be wonderful as Marshal Raylan Givens, as do the rest of the regular cast -- Nick Searcy, Joelle Carter, Natalie Zea, and Walton Goggins. And there are a couple of new faces. Good villain in the first episode, too, well played by Desmond Harrington from Dexter. If you haven't been following Justified all along, you could probably drop into it starting with this season without feeling that you've missed too much. But why deprive yourself? If there is any TV series that deserves to be seen from the beginning, it's this one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Seems saddening to see that the dome numbers with the meditator community are not working out for the tru-believers and that the Invincibility courses should be supplanted and let go this way. The potential was so great, except the Rajas could not bring themselves to figure out a reconciliation with the old meditating community. While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge of positivity for the general well-being of society, Yagyas create a very focused, concentrated influence of positivity designed to neutralize specific threats. Like the threats that are looming today. Om, Is this now the high-water mark for the dome numbers? The invincible programs? [LAUNCHING: THE NEW NATIONAL YAGYA PROGRAM] Maharishi has designed the most powerful system of Yagya the world has ever seen. The Maharishi National YagyaSM program is a massive application of Yagya on a national scale, specifically engineered to produce the largest possible impact on an entire nation. Focus for 2012: Maharishi Yagyas® for the Nation Join us in this great endeavor, please.Let us launch this powerful new program, may abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi's great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Justified is back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Walton Goggins is one of my favorite actors since the Shield. I checked it out last night for the first time. Great scene visuals. Its like they had a set designer and location finder saying, gritty, I need more gritty over and over. I'm still a little lost on the characters but I'll hang in there to catch up. Thanks for the heads up. Raylan Givens (Timothy Oliphant, previously from Deadwood) is a Harlan, KY-born boy who was demoted back there from the Miami Federal Marshal service when he basically had a wild- west-like shootout with a bad guy. The title of the series comes from his tendency to wait until such actions are legally justified, but they waste the bad guys big-time. Winona (Natalie Zea) is Raylan's ex-wife, with whom he has taken up again, which is good because she's expecting his baby. She's not entirely happy with him living the dangerous life he leads. Ava Crowder (Joelle Carter) is an ex-flame of Raylan's and the current flame of Boyd Crowder (Walton Goggins). Boyd is one of Raylan's oldest friends, but the relationship is somewhat strained in that Boyd is as far on the wrong side of the law as Raylan is on the right side of it. But if you get hooked by the series, you really owe it to yourself and catch up on at least the second season. In it Margo Martindale gave a phenomenal (and Emmy-winning) per- formance as Mags Bennett, matron of a modern Kentucky crime family with its how-we-do-business ways firmly rooted in the Hatfields and the McCoys. Since we are in the TV discussion I agree that Alcatraz isn't worth it. If that chick in Prime Suspect couldn't float a series with 10 times the personality as this chick, this doesn't have a chance. But I give the actress in Prime Suspect props for pulling off the hot chick as tough detective more believably than most. I remember she is one of your favs. Actually I have liked Maria Bello (star of the US version) a lot in other work, but her performance in this series didn't really float my boat because I'd just finished re- watching the UK version, starring the great Helen Mirren.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
So, are the Rajas actually canceling the Invincibility courses? And what exactly are Invincibility Courses - the courses you can sign up for to round in the Domes that Settle helps underwrite? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Seems saddening to see that the dome numbers with the meditator community are not working out for the tru-believers and that the Invincibility courses should be supplanted and let go this way. The potential was so great, except the Rajas could not bring themselves to figure out a reconciliation with the old meditating community. While Yogic Flying produces a powerful, generalized, non-directed surge of positivity for the general well-being of society, Yagyas create a very focused, concentrated influence of positivity designed to neutralize specific threats. Like the threats that are looming today. Om, Is this now the high-water mark for the dome numbers? The invincible programs? [LAUNCHING: THE NEW NATIONAL YAGYA PROGRAM] Maharishi has designed the most powerful system of Yagya the world has ever seen. The Maharishi National YagyaSM program is a massive application of Yagya on a national scale, specifically engineered to produce the largest possible impact on an entire nation. Focus for 2012: Maharishi Yagyas® for the Nation Join us in this great endeavor, please.Let us launch this powerful new program, may abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi's great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html curtisdeltablues: ...I've got an idea that revolves around 3 Filipino hookers and a roll of duct tape that I want to run by you. So, you want to talk more about your sexual activities again. Where do you think this will put you on the Google search? Why would anyone need duct tape on 3 Filipino 'hookers'? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide... Bhairitu: Google will also be joining the protest tomorrow... So you two Barry's support the Hollywood billionaires AND the Silicon Valley billionaires? Go figure. Apparently the primary targets are sites overseas - sites that sell counterfeit movies and music and let pirates download and stream at no charge. Protecting foreign criminals from liability rather than protecting American copyright holders and intellectual property developers is irresponsible, will cost American jobs, and is just wrong, - Senator Patrick J. Leahy
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Nabby: Also there is a small temple in Old Delhi where Maharishi received the Siddhis from Her. I'll try to find the name and post to you privately. Curtis: You are just the gift that keeps on giving aren't you Nabbie? S since we know from his own admission that Maharishi was experimenting trial and error on those first 6 month courses, This is actually true, from what I heard from people on staff around MMY at that time. He also experimented with the medical treatments at the time for course participants. MMY had not yet promoted Ayurveda, and I recall he had brought in a few different types of doctors to get their ideas and try them out on us on those early 6 month courses. I think one chiropractor's name was Dr. Bloodworth, and we all had a good laugh over that one. I know one dr suggested eating the wild dandelion leaves that grew by the roadside in Switzerland - eating several plants per walk. I think this experimental phase lasted a few years (1976-78?), then Ayurveda was the thing by the late 1980's. Can't recall when jyotish entered the scene, but before MMY claimed it as a good thing, it was totally OTP (off the program) and could get you banned if they found out you were seeing an astrologer. Then, that position got reversed completely if you saw a Maharishi jyotishi. was it because she was a bad teacher or was he a bad student? I'm imagining the HDHD Maharishi sitting close to Her (note the capital to indicate maximum woo woo) and just when she leans in to describe the details of sunyama, his head whips around and he says squirrel, squirrel! And so the teaching was lost. Or perhaps knowing Maharishi as we do now he might have just been staring at her headlights. (In his defense they are supernaturally perky for her age and She swears that she has had not work done. Coughsbotox Did that joke get through? I am trying to figure out how to write out the coughing sound that ends in the word botox in the cough-talking style of Jon Stewart.) BTW I was chatting with one of my favorite space brothers the other day playing chess actually (like our earth brothers he learned it in lock up) and he was indicating that She learned a thing or two during her Mahayuga cycles concerning some practices that involved the erotic possibilities that come from having 6 arms. If you have any inside dope on this please email me privately. I've got an idea that revolves around 3 Filipino hookers and a roll of duct tape that I want to run by you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Here is a transcript of a tape recording of Maharishi speaking about a conversation with Mother Divine on dealing withe negativity in the world in each Heart. Maharishi Speaks with Mother Divine No. 59, 'Living the Good Life' http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html
[FairfieldLife] Ameritopia?
...I had to pick certain philosophers, who came up with certain model utopian ideas, to give examples of totalitarian regimes, which really brilliant men came up with, and to warn people today that we're headed on the same glide path. - Mark Levin 'We Now Live in a Post-Constitutional Country' http://tinyurl.com/6ucvrec
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Rather than a shame, it seems more like stupidity. Why do they not, on their own, have a yagya performed to get more people into the domes? this would be a loose test of the effectiveness of yagyas, and if effective, it would solve their own difficulty with assembling their own technology, bringing the numbers up to snuff. Then, according to the theory, it should no longer be necessary to perform yagyas to avert the dangers they themselves have engendered, as the dome numbers would take care of that. Could be they do not believe their own hype.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Rather than a shame, it seems more like stupidity. Why do they not, on their own, have a yagya performed to get more people into the domes? this would be a loose test of the effectiveness of yagyas, and if effective, it would solve their own difficulty with assembling their own technology, bringing the numbers up to snuff. Then, according to the theory, it should no longer be necessary to perform yagyas to avert the dangers they themselves have engendered, as the dome numbers would take care of that. Could be they do not believe their own hype. I haven't said anything too terribly TM controversial in a while, so I'll wade into this one. :-) I think that -- either consciously or subconsciously -- Bevan and Hagelin and the Rajas have no more intention to *ever* achieve the numbers than Maharishi did. And for a very simple reason -- if you achieve the proper numbers and the expected result does not happen, you will have proved your own technology to be a sham. Can't take that chance. Maharishi could have achieved the numbers AT ANY MOMENT during his life. He *had* the money to do it. And early on he even had the willing followers to do it. But he never did, and I suspect that it's because of the reason I suggest above. He was not willing to put his theories to an actual test. Now that he's gone, there will be even more of a fervor in the Raja types to keep the ME from ever really being put to the test, because if they allowed that and it proved the ME wrong or ineffective, they would have (in their minds) contributed to besmirching the name of their dear departed guru. Not. Gonna. Happen. As for paying for a yagya to achieve the numbers, that's a good idea but again, Not. Gonna. Happen. To do that would violate one of the highest Laws Of Nature: Thou shalt never pay for anything yourself if you can con someone else into paying for it for you. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of this. Here's another idea - open up a separate place in Ffld to do Program (Probation Hall) for all those banned people who would really like to meditate in the Domes. Let them meditate and contribute to world peace etc, but without contaminating the people in the regular Domes. And if you attend Probation Hall programs regularly, swear to your purity, OR make a large donation, you can absolve your sins and work your way into the big Domes. Problem solved. I do see from Buck's point of view how frustrating this whole situation is. There is no way to get forgiveness on this issue. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Rather than a shame, it seems more like stupidity. Why do they not, on their own, have a yagya performed to get more people into the domes? this would be a loose test of the effectiveness of yagyas, and if effective, it would solve their own difficulty with assembling their own technology, bringing the numbers up to snuff. Then, according to the theory, it should no longer be necessary to perform yagyas to avert the dangers they themselves have engendered, as the dome numbers would take care of that. Could be they do not believe their own hype.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Rather than a shame, it seems more like stupidity. Why do they not, on their own, have a yagya performed to get more people into the domes? this would be a loose test of the effectiveness of yagyas, and if effective, it would solve their own difficulty with assembling their own technology, bringing the numbers up to snuff. Then, according to the theory, it should no longer be necessary to perform yagyas to avert the dangers they themselves have engendered, as the dome numbers would take care of that. Could be they do not believe their own hype. I haven't said anything too terribly TM controversial in a while, so I'll wade into this one. :-) I think that -- either consciously or subconsciously -- Bevan and Hagelin and the Rajas have no more intention to *ever* achieve the numbers than Maharishi did. And for a very simple reason -- if you achieve the proper numbers and the expected result does not happen, you will have proved your own technology to be a sham. Can't take that chance. Maharishi could have achieved the numbers AT ANY MOMENT during his life. He *had* the money to do it. And early on he even had the willing followers to do it. But he never did, and I suspect that it's because of the reason I suggest above. He was not willing to put his theories to an actual test. Now that he's gone, there will be even more of a fervor in the Raja types to keep the ME from ever really being put to the test, because if they allowed that and it proved the ME wrong or ineffective, they would have (in their minds) contributed to besmirching the name of their dear departed guru. Not. Gonna. Happen. As for paying for a yagya to achieve the numbers, that's a good idea but again, Not. Gonna. Happen. To do that would violate one of the highest Laws Of Nature: Thou shalt never pay for anything yourself if you can con someone else into paying for it for you. :-) Hey, they left that particular law of nature out of my SCI course years ago!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Rather than a shame, it seems more like stupidity. Why do they not, on their own, have a yagya performed to get more people into the domes? Just out of curiosity--I really have no idea--can a yagya be given such a specific purpose? Or are the performances preformulated for a range of more general goals, and you pick the one that seems to apply most closely to the specific goal you're aiming for? this would be a loose test of the effectiveness of yagyas, and if effective, it would solve their own difficulty with assembling their own technology, bringing the numbers up to snuff. Then, according to the theory, it should no longer be necessary to perform yagyas to avert the dangers they themselves have engendered, as the dome numbers would take care of that. Could be they do not believe their own hype.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... wrote: http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html curtisdeltablues: ...I've got an idea that revolves around 3 Filipino hookers and a roll of duct tape that I want to run by you. So, you want to talk more about your sexual activities again. Where do you think this will put you on the Google search? Why would anyone need duct tape on 3 Filipino 'hookers'? Go figure. Over the years the vile and sarcastic nature of this Curtis fellow have reminded me of the infinite patience and love Maharishi displayed. Just imagine having to run an organization that even within it contained such hard rocks of ignorgance and negativity ! That he simply didn't just give up and return to the Himalayas really tell you something about the man.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. No need to feel sorry. When everything is moved to India you will be sure to enjoy it there !
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of this. Here's another idea - open up a separate place in Ffld to do Program (Probation Hall) for all those banned people who would really like to meditate in the Domes. Let them meditate and contribute to world peace etc, but without contaminating the people in the regular Domes. And if you attend Probation Hall programs regularly, swear to your purity, OR make a large donation, you can absolve your sins and work your way into the big Domes. Problem solved. I do see from Buck's point of view how frustrating this whole situation is. There is no way to get forgiveness on this issue. Better still; move the whole operation to India and let the americans carry their own cross.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@ wrote: http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html curtisdeltablues: ...I've got an idea that revolves around 3 Filipino hookers and a roll of duct tape that I want to run by you. So, you want to talk more about your sexual activities again. Where do you think this will put you on the Google search? Why would anyone need duct tape on 3 Filipino 'hookers'? Go figure. Over the years the vile and sarcastic nature of this Curtis fellow have reminded me of the infinite patience and love Maharishi displayed. Just imagine having to run an organization that even within it contained such hard rocks of ignorgance and negativity ! That he simply didn't just give up and return to the Himalayas really tell you something about the man. This is good Nabby. I like Curtis's ideas, but this made me laugh. Your choice of words (hard rocks of ignorance and negativity) are amazing. And you are correct in that those who served Maharishi were young and not perfect, but boy did we try to help him out - devoting years of our lives, living on little if any income. It was service to a Master. And that is the huge point you overlook. People devoted to Maharishi in those years were certainly not negative and no more ignorant than any other 25 year old. But they grew up and some grew away and thought things thru for themselves. It does not make them negative or ignorant, just grown up. Nothing wrong in that at all - I think life has room for that since - if you buy into spiritual ideas - not everyone is a bhakti. Also, Maharishi's organization changed and shifted a lot over time, making it difficult for people to stay in it. And sadly, the corruption made many people distrust the spiritual good things within the teaching.To me, that is a big deal. More than money and other possible scandals.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@ wrote: http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html curtisdeltablues: ...I've got an idea that revolves around 3 Filipino hookers and a roll of duct tape that I want to run by you. So, you want to talk more about your sexual activities again. Where do you think this will put you on the Google search? Why would anyone need duct tape on 3 Filipino 'hookers'? Go figure. Over the years the vile and sarcastic nature of this Curtis fellow have reminded me of the infinite patience and love Maharishi displayed. Just imagine having to run an organization that even within it contained such hard rocks of ignorgance and negativity ! That he simply didn't just give up and return to the Himalayas really tell you something about the man. This is good Nabby. I like Curtis's ideas, but this made me laugh. Your choice of words (hard rocks of ignorance and negativity) are amazing. And you are correct in that those who served Maharishi were young and not perfect, but boy did we try to help him out - devoting years of our lives, living on little if any income. It was service to a Master. And that is the huge point you overlook. I did not overlook this, I was part of it. Still is to some degree. People devoted to Maharishi in those years were certainly not negative and no more ignorant than any other 25 year old. I know. There was very little negativity around. The bitter and vile souls like Curtis you would find in the field only. But also there, huge amounts of very progressive and bright people. But they grew up and some grew away and thought things thru for themselves. It does not make them negative or ignorant, just grown up. Nothing wrong in that at all - I think life has room for that since - if you buy into spiritual ideas - not everyone is a bhakti. Also, Maharishi's organization changed and shifted a lot over time, making it difficult for people to stay in it. That's right. Many were too inflexible to follow. The Movement belongs to those who move Many also had burned a considerate amount of karma during those years of service and was happy with that. Nothing wrong with taking a break from Tapas, even for the rest of the lifetime, ofcourse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
Vile, you say? I guess you are aligned with the British revisionism when translating the Vedic literature then huh? The Vedic literature itself is not puritanical and uncomfortable with human sexuality. Quite the contrary, it celebrates it and uses it as a consistent metaphor. Have you not read the Lingum Purna which even in stuffy translation reads like a porno novel on shrooms. And have you ever seen the murals on those Indian temples in the South that Maharishi was so eager to visit? And even if you go for Krishna in the water with multiple Gopis sporting like elephants as metaphors for consciousness details, the images they picked makes Girls Gone Wild look like a librarian's convention. (But when they take off their glasses and shake their hair loose after the Cyber Dewie Decimal System lecture, look out!) Seriously Nabbie you are in serious denial about the metaphoric choices in your own tradition. What do you think comes after, the frog desires water, the physician desires disease in the uncensored version of the Rig Veda? Can you really be that clueless? And I am vile! No, neither the Vedas nor I are vile for using sexual image metaphors. Don't you think they knew how to interest humans on this planet at least as well as the guy who sells cars on TV or do you think the chick on the hood of the car in the bikini is just holding the hood down? And why exactly are you still reading my posts? At this point I'm gunna have to draw my own conclusions. Was I the guy who wrote it into the Mahabharata that 5 brothers shared one wife? Tell me that isn't right out of a Japanese Bukkake flick. But I am the vile one for pointing it out. Do you know what a lingum and a yoni are? Are you so hopelessly naive that you don't get what pouring milk over a lingum so it flows into the yoni is all about. They chose this image and there is nothing vile about it. Maharishi was the king of a none for you, all for me attitude about sex. He postured as a prude while living a life of a rockstar with ALL the perky perks. He was a Republican (build a bigger bomb) hypocrite about sex. I hope at least you are also a hypocrite in this area and didn't buy into the BS, cuz if you did, you really wasted your youth. One of the things I would need to see in any spiritual system that claims to explain all of life's secrets is a comfort and natural connection with our full humanness above the pathetic puritanical shaming that demonstrates that you aren't even comfortable with your own body let alone have secrets about the universe. You don't help your cause at all with this denial laden, prudish posturing. But I will concede one point Nabbie, Duct taping 3 Filipino hookers together to simulate the Vedic options available with the Divine one is a bit vile. You really need to use stage gaffer tape so it is easier to remove. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@ wrote: http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html curtisdeltablues: ...I've got an idea that revolves around 3 Filipino hookers and a roll of duct tape that I want to run by you. So, you want to talk more about your sexual activities again. Where do you think this will put you on the Google search? Why would anyone need duct tape on 3 Filipino 'hookers'? Go figure. Over the years the vile and sarcastic nature of this Curtis fellow have reminded me of the infinite patience and love Maharishi displayed. Just imagine having to run an organization that even within it contained such hard rocks of ignorgance and negativity ! That he simply didn't just give up and return to the Himalayas really tell you something about the man.
[FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
Well then, that does it. No need for a protest. Just turn off your JavaScript. Silly Wiki, what were they thinking? http://youtu.be/vjrPuYLAIkk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: You can still access the English Wikipedia. They simply redirect you to a special page using JavaScript. If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser, you have access. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Date: January 16, 2012 Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United Statesâthe Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senateâthat, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia. This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public protest of this nature, and it's a decision that wasn't lightly made. Here's how it's been described by the three Wikipedia administrators who formally facilitated the community's discussion. From the public statement, signed by User:NuclearWarfare, User:Risker and User:Billinghurst: It is the opinion of the English Wikipedia community that both of these bills, if passed, would be devastating to the free and open web. Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a blackout of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support. On careful review of this discussion, the closing administrators note the broad-based support for action from Wikipedians around the world, not just from within the United States. The primary objection to a global blackout came from those who preferred that the blackout be limited to readers from the United States, with the rest of the world seeing a simple banner notice instead. We also noted that roughly 55% of those supporting a blackout preferred that it be a global one, with many pointing to concerns about similar legislation in other nations. In making this decision, Wikipedians will be criticized for seeming to abandon neutrality to take a political position. That's a real, legitimate issue. We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them. But although Wikipedia's articles are neutral, its existence is not. As Wikimedia Foundation board member Kat Walsh wrote on one of our mailing lists recently, We depend on a legal infrastructure that makes it possible for us to operate. And we depend on a legal infrastructure that also allows other sites to host user-contributed material, both information and expression. For the most part, Wikimedia projects are organizing and summarizing and collecting the world's knowledge. We're putting it in context, and showing people how to make to sense of it. But that knowledge has to be published somewhere for anyone to find and use it. Where it can be censored without due process, it hurts the speaker, the public, and Wikimedia. Where you can only speak if you have sufficient resources to fight legal challenges, or, if your views are pre-approved by someone who does, the same narrow set of ideas already popular will continue to be all anyone has meaningful access to. The decision to shut down the English Wikipedia wasn't made by me; it was made by editors, through a consensus decision-making process. But I support it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Judgment:
I have a friend that did the DNA testing through the National Geographic project and traced his roots back to Africa. I think it was about $100 back 5 years ago or so. From: seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Judgment: Wow, that was neat. Great pictures. It brought me back to a reverence for Native Americans. I admit that over the last few years, my perception has focussed on some of the brutality they displayed in fighting their enemies, and less about their relationship with the earth. This helped move me back in that direction. We've been meaning to do some some DNA testing. We think there is some Indian on my wife's side. A mysterious women in the geneology, but sanitized because it wasn't considered proper. But my son had mongolian patches on his behind as a child, and those are particular to native american as well as some other racial groups. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I leave eternity to thee...  I think a few sacred harp singers are needed...Idumea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_QFvkPJvwfeature=related IDUMEA And am I born to die? To lay this body down! And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown? A land of deepest shade, Unpierced by human thought The dreary regions of the dead, Where all things are forgot. Soon as from earth I go What will become of me? Eternal happiness or woe, Must then my portion be! Waked by the trumpet sound, I from my grave shall rise; And see the Judge with glory crowned, And see the flaming skies! From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Judgment:  Friends I want to share with you all one of the greatest sermons ever given that was written by a Transcendentalist. You know in working with livestock, inflection is often nine tenths of the communication. It is not at all so much what is said, but how it is said. I see that much of the problem with discussions here on this list is that people can't hear how things are being said as to what is being said. Likewise, in this whole discussion around the FFL resolution on sin, it seems something is being lost in the print that keeps people from converting. Take a listen to this. It sounds remarkable like to how I sound when I write. I hope this is helpful to some of you who have trouble with what I write here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mog0W6Jwj0Q Kindly from the Unified Field ever vigilante, -Buck The Greek word for sin in the Bible is 'amarkon' which means to miss the mark. Yes; !Amarkoners repent! Yes, it is in the Greek I pray for these really big Amarkoners here to return home. These TM expatriates. The ex-patriots indeed. Here we have one of the biggest natural law peace-creating things going on and these guys spurn it always puking on it here. That is spiritual sin in the Greek way as also per the FFL Resolution on Sin too. Is perfectly fair to judge who is with us in this natural law too as transcendentalists and who is against it, and us. It is calling sin for what it is, a sin a sin. Thank you for your very learned comments. An old and Kindly meditator, -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Teaching the Knowledge * As a teacher, there is a different, more difficult lesson that must be accepted personally: if someone chosen by the Unified Field to be a prophet or a leader refuses to teach the truth, as Jonah did for example, then Nature will visit a terrible punishment on them. * However, the reverse is even more true�Nature will grant favor and delight to those who do preach the truth. Om, Om, Om, come back, come back to meditation you sinners. The bell tolls for thee, In warm regard of natural law, -Buck in FF This is kind of heavy handed Buck. Fortunately I am not immune to being heavy handed in thought, and as Barry would possibly say, overbearing and pompous. If the unified field is truth, one cannot actually speak it, one can only point to it because it is transcendent to speech. All speech in the world in reference to it is as a lie. Nature is not personal, it visits on one without regard to person. Favour and delight are the experience of those who experience the unified field, but nature remains the same impersonal force of will that is the unified field, enlightened or unenlightened. It is not will as a person imagines will to be; it is far more
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Judgment:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I have a friend that did the DNA testing through the National Geographic project and traced his roots back to Africa. Â I think it was about $100 back 5 years ago or so. Â I've had my DNA tested by two different companies: https://www.23andme.com/ http://www.familytreedna.com/ The focus of 23andme is health issues, and FTDNA is all about genealogy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Alcatraz
I grew up about a 3 hour drive from Portland and had relatives in the area so we often would make a trip there. That and Spokane were my first experiences of urban society long before I experienced Seattle. And before I visited Seattle I spent a month in the San Francisco Bay Area when I was 8. My longest experience with Portland was in January 1978 when the group I was in played a month long gig in Vancouver, WA at a place just off the freeway that had an Eat Now sign. It was a family owned place known for it's fried chicken. On nights off I would go down to Portland to watch movies or visit Powell's Books. I remember one big storm in Seattle where the only cars on the road were mine and other Subarus (very popular car there). In January 1982 I drove cross state to Pullman after a big snow storm and made it on time to the gig. I was the only member of the band who did, so we started a day late. In 1990 I was living in Redmond and when another big storm hit right before Christmas taking some folks over 6 hours to get home from work I booked a room at the airport and stayed overnight before taking a flight to California for Christmas. Needless to say I've had enough of snow in my life but am surprised at this long cold winter we've been having in the Bay Area. Climate change is indeed here. On 01/17/2012 08:53 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: I watched a couple of clips on utube. This one is great and so true and a bit musical. I do the waterfront walk featured here every time I go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE_9CzLCbkY Portland is my favorite nearest city and it is a *great* place. I wish I had left Seattle and bought a house there years ago. I really am going to have to buy a TV as soon as it stops snowing here - I am missing so much of this amusing stuff. Up to 6 new inches (about 3 have fallen so far) are predicted (well, up to 14 in places, those places where nobody commutes) and school has been cancelled for two days now and the headline on the front of the paper this morning was Megastorm looms for area. Ha ha. We are such wimps. Time to go skiing. From: Bhairitunoozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Alcatraz No, I didn't know that but Portland is a very weird place. On 01/17/2012 07:01 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Portlandia is my new favorite show and Fred Armisen and Carrie Brownstein are my new favorite sketch comics. (Louis CK is still tops in stand up) Did you know they were musicians first? They did a great piece on them on CBS Sunday Morning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 01/17/2012 01:16 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@wrote: Nice shots of the San Francisco with scenes shot in Vancouver, BC standing in for SF. Hint: SF does not have a range of mountains. There is one small peak to the north (Mt. Tam) and the Oakland Hills to the east (hardly mountains). Of course scenes the foliage was totally wrong for the Bay Area. But don't waste your time as this is another formulaic TV cop and sidekick series using the villain of the week gimmick. Sadly, that sentence pretty much nails it. It confirms that broadcast TV is indeed being used like a drug for the great unwashed. I guess after Lost we expect more from J.J. Abrams but I fear it's all about the money these days and a paycheck for the creators. Not even Jorge Garcia (Hurley on Lost) can save this one. He's the only reason I watched the two opening episodes. As you say, he's probably not gonna save this one. As for Being Human ( the series, not the condition :-) I haven't gotten to that one yet, so I reserve judgment until I do. You might find the 2nd episode of the 2nd season of Portlandia hilarious. It has to do with Battlestar Gallactica and I think I posted the first segment link here a week or so ago. It's where a couple decide to watch the first episode of BSG before they go to a party and wind up watching the whole series finishing a week or so later. But wait there's more! Two more segments in fact with the third being the most hilarious.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of this. Here's another idea - open up a separate place in Ffld to do Program (Probation Hall) for all those banned people who would really like to meditate in the Domes. Let them meditate and contribute to world peace etc, but without contaminating the people in the regular Domes. And if you attend Probation Hall programs regularly, swear to your purity, OR make a large donation, you can absolve your sins and work your way into the big Domes. Problem solved. I do see from Buck's point of view how frustrating this whole situation is. There is no way to get forgiveness on this issue. Susan, Doug Hamilton has been on this from the earliest posts to this forum, long, long before I came on here. Post #6 and post #13: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/6 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13 He seems genuinely concerned about this disruption of community. As spiritual movements degenerate into religion (belief as opposed to direct experience) I suspect the resistance to testing the metaphysical underpinnings of the enterprise becomes more intense. There are many metaphysical ideas which have testable physical consequences because they are supposed to have a result in the world. For example global warming does appear to be increasing. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://www.venganza.org/) claims this is because the number of pirates in the world is declining: http://www.venganza.org/images/PiratesVsTemp.png However the number of pirates on the high seas seems to have increased in the past couple of decades from something like 100 to perhaps 3000, largely because of Somalia. This is a serious theological threat to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (COTFSM) because the number of pirates is increasing, but global temperatures continue to rise. And there are of course online pirates that have increased significantly to, although, strictly speaking, the COTFSM is referring specifically to pirates on the high seas. The Church here referred to is of course a parody of religious thought, but it is exactly the kind of thinking the TMO expects people to have. Anyone here on this forum who has a spiritual bent, not excluding me either, has probably fallen into the ridiculous logic promoted by this way of thinking one time or another, even without realising it. What we see here on the forum is people that are in various stages of breaking away from that misguided logic, and trying to come to terms with existence as it is, not as we think it ought to be, or more particularly, as someone else thinks we ought to think it to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Rather than a shame, it seems more like stupidity. Why do they not, on their own, have a yagya performed to get more people into the domes? this would be a loose test of the effectiveness of yagyas, and if effective, it would solve their own difficulty with assembling their own technology, bringing the numbers up to snuff. Then, according to the theory, it should no longer be necessary to perform yagyas to avert the dangers they themselves have engendered, as the dome numbers would take care of that. Could be they do not believe their own hype.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
Xenophaneros Anartaxius said: What we see here on the forum is people that are in various stages of breaking away from that misguided logic, and trying to come to terms with existence as it is, not as we think it ought to be, or more particularly, as someone else thinks we ought to think it to be. In my experience and opinion, coming to terms with existence as it is and not as we think it ought to be is one of the most rewarding endeavors a human can engage in. (And I'm tempted to say, ought to engage in.) Thanks for your posts. Good stuff. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of this. Here's another idea - open up a separate place in Ffld to do Program (Probation Hall) for all those banned people who would really like to meditate in the Domes. Let them meditate and contribute to world peace etc, but without contaminating the people in the regular Domes. And if you attend Probation Hall programs regularly, swear to your purity, OR make a large donation, you can absolve your sins and work your way into the big Domes. Problem solved. I do see from Buck's point of view how frustrating this whole situation is. There is no way to get forgiveness on this issue. Susan, Doug Hamilton has been on this from the earliest posts to this forum, long, long before I came on here. Post #6 and post #13: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/6 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13 He seems genuinely concerned about this disruption of community. As spiritual movements degenerate into religion (belief as opposed to direct experience) I suspect the resistance to testing the metaphysical underpinnings of the enterprise becomes more intense. There are many metaphysical ideas which have testable physical consequences because they are supposed to have a result in the world. For example global warming does appear to be increasing. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://www.venganza.org/) claims this is because the number of pirates in the world is declining: http://www.venganza.org/images/PiratesVsTemp.png However the number of pirates on the high seas seems to have increased in the past couple of decades from something like 100 to perhaps 3000, largely because of Somalia. This is a serious theological threat to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (COTFSM) because the number of pirates is increasing, but global temperatures continue to rise. And there are of course online pirates that have increased significantly to, although, strictly speaking, the COTFSM is referring specifically to pirates on the high seas. The Church here referred to is of course a parody of religious thought, but it is exactly the kind of thinking the TMO expects people to have. Anyone here on this forum who has a spiritual bent, not excluding me either, has probably fallen into the ridiculous logic promoted by this way of thinking one time or another, even without realising it. What we see here on the forum is people that are in various stages of breaking away from that misguided logic, and trying to come to terms with existence as it is, not as we think it ought to be, or more particularly, as someone else thinks we ought to think it to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Is a shame to see the Invincible courses come towards an end because the TM Rajas could not get effective numbers of meditators together. Rather than a shame, it seems more like stupidity. Why do they not, on their own, have a yagya performed to get more people into the domes? this would be a loose test of the effectiveness of yagyas, and if effective, it would solve their own difficulty with assembling their own technology, bringing the numbers up to snuff. Then, according to the theory, it should no longer be necessary to perform yagyas to avert the dangers they themselves have engendered, as the dome numbers would take care of that. Could be they do not believe their own hype.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
Awoelflebater, Wow sounds about right then. You could be in the right place. Cat fight is probably the wrong term, which generally assumes a fight between *women* and the majority of the exchanges are between *individuals*, irrespective of gender, or reflect differences in the male/female experience. (Having said that, I've jumped in from my perspective as a female on several occasions.) I think of the exchanges here as healthy debates; the forum allows for an expanded level of freedom of expression which is good and posts can be very funny, even the *off-color* ones, from a certain perspective. Yes, sometimes the language descends into what would be considered the *gutter*, applying typical social convention, but on the other hand, it almost always sparks additional debate. Few scenarios of this ilk are left untouched and not commented on. This is a different venue and the gift to me is that it does accommodate a wide range of language and visual formats. For me, I enjoy the multiple perspectives as the human condition. For me, the struggle to conform has been like a noose that slowly tightened around my neck and just about snuffed me out at different times in my life. This group includes some of the most creative, intelligent and interesting people I've come across in a long time. The joy of experiencing a robust internet forum with multiple viewpoints is well worth any personal offense taken along the way, IMHO, and further affords opportunities to articulate your own position, or step back and let go, or question/clarify one's own mental/emotional constructs. For me, I often feel something larger in place here that transcends (and I use that word very loosely) what may be interpreted as petty or insulting or mundane at face value. I hope you stay and speak out as you see fit. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wow Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in Majorca in 1969. I was 14 at the time. I remember paying one week's allowance for this. I transferred from Colgate University in 1975 to MIU after attending an SCI course at Livingston Manor. It blew me away and I just had to come to FF! I attended MIU from the Fall of 1975 until graduation in 1980. I left FF for a while living in upstate NY with my then boyfriend and fellow MIU graduate. After a couple of years I returned to FF (don't we all at some time?) and taught a horseback riding program with another friend of mine for the students and meditators in town. Around that time I also had a friend that had attended the first Robin Carlsen lecture in town. Their description of it intrigued me. I proceeded to watch a seminar tape, was blown away by that and jumped head first into the most amazing three and a half years of my life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? Just wondering, where you are coming from. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
Wired.com has blacked out articles which appear if you put the mouse pointer over them. Google has a big black rectangle over it's logo and a link to contact your congressman. Raw Story is blacked out with on a video of CBS reporting the blackout. Lot's of other web sites have joined in too. On 01/18/2012 08:50 AM, raunchydog wrote: Well then, that does it. No need for a protest. Just turn off your JavaScript. Silly Wiki, what were they thinking? http://youtu.be/vjrPuYLAIkk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxiusanartaxius@... wrote: You can still access the English Wikipedia. They simply redirect you to a special page using JavaScript. If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser, you have access. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydograunchydog@ wrote: To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Date: January 16, 2012 Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United Statesâ€the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senateâ€that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia. This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public protest of this nature, and it's a decision that wasn't lightly made. Here's how it's been described by the three Wikipedia administrators who formally facilitated the community's discussion. From the public statement, signed by User:NuclearWarfare, User:Risker and User:Billinghurst: It is the opinion of the English Wikipedia community that both of these bills, if passed, would be devastating to the free and open web. Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a blackout of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support. On careful review of this discussion, the closing administrators note the broad-based support for action from Wikipedians around the world, not just from within the United States. The primary objection to a global blackout came from those who preferred that the blackout be limited to readers from the United States, with the rest of the world seeing a simple banner notice instead. We also noted that roughly 55% of those supporting a blackout preferred that it be a global one, with many pointing to concerns about similar legislation in other nations. In making this decision, Wikipedians will be criticized for seeming to abandon neutrality to take a political position. That's a real, legitimate issue. We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them. But although Wikipedia's articles are neutral, its existence is not. As Wikimedia Foundation board member Kat Walsh wrote on one of our mailing lists recently, We depend on a legal infrastructure that makes it possible for us to operate. And we depend on a legal infrastructure that also allows other sites to host user-contributed material, both information and expression. For the most part, Wikimedia projects are organizing and summarizing and collecting the world's knowledge. We're putting it in context, and showing people how to make to sense of it. But that knowledge has to be published somewhere for anyone to find and use it. Where it can be censored without due process, it hurts the speaker, the public, and Wikimedia. Where you can only speak if you have sufficient resources to fight legal challenges, or, if your views are pre-approved by someone who does, the same narrow set of ideas already popular will continue to be all anyone has meaningful access to. The decision to shut down the English Wikipedia wasn't made by me; it was made by editors, through a consensus decision-making process. But I support it. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Alcatraz
I intended to mention that Porlandia is on the IFC channel which on Comcast where I am is in the second HD tier though available OnDemand if you don't subscribe to that tier. That may be true on other cable and satellite systems too. I don't like these tier systems and would love to see ala carte. But eventually everything will be streamed anyway. Already you can get current series that are available on Extended Basic cable on streaming services like Amazon and Vudu. I see that Portlandia season two is available on Amazon Instant Video at $1.99 an episode. On 01/17/2012 08:53 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: I watched a couple of clips on utube. This one is great and so true and a bit musical. I do the waterfront walk featured here every time I go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE_9CzLCbkY Portland is my favorite nearest city and it is a *great* place. I wish I had left Seattle and bought a house there years ago. I really am going to have to buy a TV as soon as it stops snowing here - I am missing so much of this amusing stuff. Up to 6 new inches (about 3 have fallen so far) are predicted (well, up to 14 in places, those places where nobody commutes) and school has been cancelled for two days now and the headline on the front of the paper this morning was Megastorm looms for area. Ha ha. We are such wimps. Time to go skiing. From: Bhairitunoozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Alcatraz No, I didn't know that but Portland is a very weird place. On 01/17/2012 07:01 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Portlandia is my new favorite show and Fred Armisen and Carrie Brownstein are my new favorite sketch comics. (Louis CK is still tops in stand up) Did you know they were musicians first? They did a great piece on them on CBS Sunday Morning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 01/17/2012 01:16 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@wrote: Nice shots of the San Francisco with scenes shot in Vancouver, BC standing in for SF. Hint: SF does not have a range of mountains. There is one small peak to the north (Mt. Tam) and the Oakland Hills to the east (hardly mountains). Of course scenes the foliage was totally wrong for the Bay Area. But don't waste your time as this is another formulaic TV cop and sidekick series using the villain of the week gimmick. Sadly, that sentence pretty much nails it. It confirms that broadcast TV is indeed being used like a drug for the great unwashed. I guess after Lost we expect more from J.J. Abrams but I fear it's all about the money these days and a paycheck for the creators. Not even Jorge Garcia (Hurley on Lost) can save this one. He's the only reason I watched the two opening episodes. As you say, he's probably not gonna save this one. As for Being Human ( the series, not the condition :-) I haven't gotten to that one yet, so I reserve judgment until I do. You might find the 2nd episode of the 2nd season of Portlandia hilarious. It has to do with Battlestar Gallactica and I think I posted the first segment link here a week or so ago. It's where a couple decide to watch the first episode of BSG before they go to a party and wind up watching the whole series finishing a week or so later. But wait there's more! Two more segments in fact with the third being the most hilarious.
[FairfieldLife] further to our discussion...
Hi Emily, Yes, I was initially going to describe it as more akin to machine-gunning but thought that was too strong. But thanks for the welcome. I don't know how long I'll stick around but when you use words like robust and healthy debates it sounds a little more tempting. After all, I am one of those people who at 55 years of age has come to be very suspicious of being in the same room with more than three people with the same religious or spiritual perspective. Now that can be scary. Too much certainty about anything leads to nothing but trouble. Hope to be hearing from you again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Well then, that does it. No need for a protest. Just turn off your JavaScript. Silly Wiki, what were they thinking? From the FAQ at the Learn More link on the blackout page: Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way? Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page. Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our messageThis is neither intended to be an impenetrable barrier to access nor an ephemeral attempt to grab attention. It's a historic, measured, temporary action in protest against specific legislation which threatens the free and open Internet and, by extension, Wikipedia. Sounds reasonable to me. The Technical FAQ page doesn't give instructions on disabling JavaScript. Most people who don't know about the blackout and visit Wikipedia will likely not know how to do it even if they do click on Learn More and read the FAQs. But the main thing is that locking Wikipedia down so it's completely inaccessible really isn't necessary. They've made their point loud and clear; what they've done is a front-page headline, with a story explaining why, all over the world. Here's a wonderfully supportive Media Decoder column from the NY Times, How I'm Surviving (or Trying to) Without Wikipedia at My Fingertips, by reporter David Carr. He doesn't mention any of the ways to get around the block, although I'd bet a buck he knows what they are. http://youtu.be/vjrPuYLAIkk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: You can still access the English Wikipedia. They simply redirect you to a special page using JavaScript. If you can turn off JavaScript in your browser, you have access. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Date: January 16, 2012 Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United Statesâthe Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senateâthat, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia. This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public protest of this nature, and it's a decision that wasn't lightly made. Here's how it's been described by the three Wikipedia administrators who formally facilitated the community's discussion. From the public statement, signed by User:NuclearWarfare, User:Risker and User:Billinghurst: It is the opinion of the English Wikipedia community that both of these bills, if passed, would be devastating to the free and open web. Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a blackout of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support. On careful review of this discussion, the closing administrators note the broad-based support for action from Wikipedians around the world, not just from within the United States. The primary objection to a global blackout came from those who preferred that the blackout be limited to readers from the United States, with the rest of the world seeing a simple banner notice instead. We also noted that roughly 55% of those supporting a blackout preferred that it be a global one, with many pointing to concerns about similar legislation in other nations. In making this decision, Wikipedians will be criticized for seeming to abandon neutrality to take a political position. That's a real, legitimate issue. We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them. But although
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
Yes, we can always speculate in such a way that it fulfills our desires too. I personally do not share my experiences because I want to convince others of their validity. I mention it for those few souls who are dedicated to their liberation, and to know such things are possible. There might be a person or two out there who wishes for a personal relationship with a saint or god or goddess, and such a thing is possible. It is possible to meet souls in the astral world who love unconditionally and completely, forgive us for everything they see in us, and establish a dynamic and real, long lasting relationship that grows and changes much as an earthly one does. I can appreciate your desire to know such phenomena as a bridge between science and spirituality, and wish you complete success in your inquiry. PS The reason Maharishi's experience rings true for me, is the nature of the relationship he has with Mother Divine. A conversation and a relationship, vs. the robertson guy who claims a 900 foot Jesus and something out of science fiction. Once you are having these experiences at will, it is easy to spot the fakers from those describing a real experience. I look forward to continuing this discussion in a week if you like, or with anyone else who enjoys the subject of direct celestial communication. This is 51 for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I believe in the phenomenon just not the interpretation of what it means. It is well known capacity of our brains. In some conditions our ability to distinguish inner and outer mental experience gets confused. That is my take on the sincere ones. I have no reason to believe that Roberts was less sincere in having a dramatic experience than Maharishi. It is just funny how convenient they both came out to be for their own desires. I am not really sure that Maharishi is not just reporting a dramatic conversation he had with himself in the context of a temple using Mother Divine as an artistic literary device. That would be my best guess. He was reporting his thoughts in a more dramatic way taking some poetic license to punch the story up a bit. He did a similar thing I believe when he claimed that Vasishtha came onto him last night! It lead to a perspective about the Vedas. I have my doubts that he saw himself in as mystical a light as he projected to us. Judith's book makes me believe he was more of a poetic devise guy than a I just talked to Mother Divine for real real guy. YMMV But my guess is that there are way more people who actually experience something dramatic than people who are outright lying through their teeth. I've had ones like it so I understand how compelling they are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: Since most people don't have this experience there are folks who fake this to take advantage of others. Too bad - leads to rampant cynicism. However there are indications wrt the experience that can speak to its validity, or not. Maharishi's account reads as genuine. Can you guess why? No, *not* because it is Maharishi... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Where have I heard this type of claim before...oh yeah: n 1977, Roberts claimed to have had a vision from a 900-foot-tall Jesus who told him to build City of Faith Medical and Research Center, and the hospital would be a success. So convenient how God supports a person's organizational ambitions like that! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Here is a transcript of a tape recording of Maharishi speaking about a conversation with Mother Divine on dealing withe negativity in the world in each Heart. Maharishi Speaks with Mother Divine No. 59, 'Living the Good Life' http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Need is for National Yagya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Great idea, but way too logical and alarmingly measurable. Hopefully, the folks from the inner circle who scan these posts will hear of this. Here's another idea - open up a separate place in Ffld to do Program (Probation Hall) for all those banned people who would really like to meditate in the Domes. Let them meditate and contribute to world peace etc, but without contaminating the people in the regular Domes. And if you attend Probation Hall programs regularly, swear to your purity, OR make a large donation, you can absolve your sins and work your way into the big Domes. Problem solved. I do see from Buck's point of view how frustrating this whole situation is. There is no way to get forgiveness on this issue. Susan, Doug Hamilton has been on this from the earliest posts to this forum, long, long before I came on here. Post #6 and post #13: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/6 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13 He seems genuinely concerned about this disruption of community. As spiritual movements degenerate into religion (belief as opposed to direct experience) I suspect the resistance to testing the metaphysical underpinnings of the enterprise becomes more intense. There are many metaphysical ideas which have testable physical consequences because they are supposed to have a result in the world. For example global warming does appear to be increasing. The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://www.venganza.org/) claims this is because the number of pirates in the world is declining: http://www.venganza.org/images/PiratesVsTemp.png A graph! Aha. That proves it. Thanks:-) However the number of pirates on the high seas seems to have increased in the past couple of decades from something like 100 to perhaps 3000, largely because of Somalia. This is a serious theological threat to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (COTFSM) because the number of pirates is increasing, but global temperatures continue to rise. And there are of course online pirates that have increased significantly to, although, strictly speaking, the COTFSM is referring specifically to pirates on the high seas. The Church here referred to is of course a parody of religious thought, but it is exactly the kind of thinking the TMO expects people to have. Anyone here on this forum who has a spiritual bent, not excluding me either, has probably fallen into the ridiculous logic promoted by this way of thinking one time or another, even without realising it. What we see here on the forum is people that are in various stages of breaking away from that misguided logic, and trying to come to terms with existence as it is, not as we think it ought to be, or more particularly, as someone else thinks we ought to think it to be. Very well said..I too am in that process and it is interesting and not always comfortable at all. Sometimes I miss the fairy tale mentality and the feeling that I am pretty certain about things. For example, I wish I still believed in reincarnation, but am now not so sure at all about that. Also, it seems more and more likely that awakening is just a brain state that we encourage thru various practices. It results in the death of the ego, so those who are awakened in this way have, in a sense, already died. Of course, they are also seeing things more for the way they really are, which is good - I think. So they don't really care about life after death since there is no I anyway. I ramble.. and am not thinking so clearly, but you get it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
Oops, forgot the link: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/18/how-im-surviving-or-trying-to-without-wikipedia-at-my-fingertips/ http://tinyurl.com/7o9aobv --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: snip Here's a wonderfully supportive Media Decoder column from the NY Times, How I'm Surviving (or Trying to) Without Wikipedia at My Fingertips, by reporter David Carr. He doesn't mention any of the ways to get around the block, although I'd bet a buck he knows what they are.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Speaks with Mother Divine (not the THMD Course)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: Yes, we can always speculate in such a way that it fulfills our desires too. I personally do not share my experiences because I want to convince others of their validity. I mention it for those few souls who are dedicated to their liberation, and to know such things are possible. There might be a person or two out there who wishes for a personal relationship with a saint or god or goddess, and such a thing is possible. It is possible to meet souls in the astral world who love unconditionally and completely, forgive us for everything they see in us, and establish a dynamic and real, long lasting relationship that grows and changes much as an earthly one does. I can appreciate your desire to know such phenomena as a bridge between science and spirituality, and wish you complete success in your inquiry. PS The reason Maharishi's experience rings true for me, is the nature of the relationship he has with Mother Divine. A conversation and a relationship, vs. the robertson guy who claims a 900 foot Jesus and something out of science fiction. Once you are having these experiences at will, it is easy to spot the fakers from those describing a real experience. Thans for answering your earlier question on this. I was wondering what rang true for you. I look forward to continuing this discussion in a week if you like, or with anyone else who enjoys the subject of direct celestial communication. This is 51 for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I believe in the phenomenon just not the interpretation of what it means. It is well known capacity of our brains. In some conditions our ability to distinguish inner and outer mental experience gets confused. That is my take on the sincere ones. I have no reason to believe that Roberts was less sincere in having a dramatic experience than Maharishi. It is just funny how convenient they both came out to be for their own desires. I am not really sure that Maharishi is not just reporting a dramatic conversation he had with himself in the context of a temple using Mother Divine as an artistic literary device. That would be my best guess. He was reporting his thoughts in a more dramatic way taking some poetic license to punch the story up a bit. He did a similar thing I believe when he claimed that Vasishtha came onto him last night! It lead to a perspective about the Vedas. I have my doubts that he saw himself in as mystical a light as he projected to us. Judith's book makes me believe he was more of a poetic devise guy than a I just talked to Mother Divine for real real guy. YMMV But my guess is that there are way more people who actually experience something dramatic than people who are outright lying through their teeth. I've had ones like it so I understand how compelling they are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: Since most people don't have this experience there are folks who fake this to take advantage of others. Too bad - leads to rampant cynicism. However there are indications wrt the experience that can speak to its validity, or not. Maharishi's account reads as genuine. Can you guess why? No, *not* because it is Maharishi... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Where have I heard this type of claim before...oh yeah: n 1977, Roberts claimed to have had a vision from a 900-foot-tall Jesus who told him to build City of Faith Medical and Research Center, and the hospital would be a success. So convenient how God supports a person's organizational ambitions like that! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Here is a transcript of a tape recording of Maharishi speaking about a conversation with Mother Divine on dealing withe negativity in the world in each Heart. Maharishi Speaks with Mother Divine No. 59, 'Living the Good Life' http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] further to our discussion...
Ha ha ha. Machine-gunning is not too strong, actually :) I agree with your last statement - as I approach 50 this year, I have chucked most of my certainty about anything out the window. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] further to our discussion... Hi Emily, Yes, I was initially going to describe it as more akin to machine-gunning but thought that was too strong. But thanks for the welcome. I don't know how long I'll stick around but when you use words like robust and healthy debates it sounds a little more tempting. After all, I am one of those people who at 55 years of age has come to be very suspicious of being in the same room with more than three people with the same religious or spiritual perspective. Now that can be scary. Too much certainty about anything leads to nothing but trouble. Hope to be hearing from you again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
On 01/18/2012 07:31 AM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote: Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide... Bhairitu: Google will also be joining the protest tomorrow... So you two Barry's support the Hollywood billionaires AND the Silicon Valley billionaires? Go figure. You sure don't read much of what I post. I've been very critical of Hollywood which is a shadow of what it used to be. The original studio moguls were inventors and innovators. If they would around today they probably would have looked at the Internet back in the 1990s as a new means of distribution. And Google and other tech companies don't want to be saddled with the job of sorting out which site has legitimate content and which ones don't. Leave that to the content providers as it is now. Take down the wrong site with legitimate content and deep pocket companies could be targeted with big lawsuits. Apparently the primary targets are sites overseas - sites that sell counterfeit movies and music and let pirates download and stream at no charge. And how do the studios and record companies figure how much they are losing? They're guessing! They may only be losing about 2% of profit and that is pretty much what ANY business figures in as spoilage. Most people wouldn't download movies illegally if they were readily available. Why bother when you can watch a movie via Netflix or LoveFilm (in Europe). But the big studios are big dinosaurs move slowly to innovate. They're losing because they are behind the times. I look at some studios like Sony Pictures and your Texas buddy Mark Cuban's Magnolia Films making their content readily available online while companies Warner Brothers are slow to allow any of their movies online. Protecting foreign criminals from liability rather than protecting American copyright holders and intellectual property developers is irresponsible, will cost American jobs, and is just wrong, - Senator Patrick J. Leahy So you are a Democrat now? Willy the chameleon. Go figure. Sorry but Senator Leahy is obsolete and needs to be deprecated. Sometimes conservatives are worth something and some Republicans have spoken up and oppose SOPA and PIPA because they are more big government intrusion. I'll support them on that issue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 01/18/2012 07:31 AM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote: So you two Barry's support the Hollywood billionaires AND the Silicon Valley billionaires? Go figure. You sure don't read much of what I post. Try being more of an asshole. Works for me. :-)
[FairfieldLife] US Is Fully Prepared
That's what Panetta said regarding any challenge that Iran may impose at the Straight of Hormuz. A line has been drawn on the sand, figuratively speaking. What will Iran do next? http://news.yahoo.com/panetta-us-fully-prepared-iran-challenge-193126193.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Is Fully Prepared
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: That's what Panetta said regarding any challenge that Iran may impose at the Straight of Hormuz. A line has been drawn on the sand, figuratively speaking. What will Iran do next? http://news.yahoo.com/panetta-us-fully-prepared-iran-challenge-193126193.html Can they afford to spend money they don't have, and loose another war ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
Emily, this could almost be an alternative mission statement for FFL. It's been a wonder to behold your increasingly perceptive perspective on this group since you first joined us, especially amazing given that you don't share the general TM background. Kudos. Really well said. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Awoelflebater, Wow sounds about right then.  You could be in the right place.  Cat fight is probably the wrong term, which generally assumes a fight between *women* and the majority of the exchanges are between *individuals*, irrespective of gender, or reflect differences in the male/female experience.  (Having said that, I've jumped in from my perspective as a female on several occasions.)  I think of the exchanges here as healthy debates; the forum allows for an expanded level of freedom of expression which is good and posts can be very funny, even the *off-color* ones, from a certain perspective.  Yes, sometimes the language descends into what would be considered the *gutter*, applying typical social convention, but on the other hand, it almost always sparks additional debate.  Few scenarios of this ilk are left untouched and not commented on. This is a different venue and the gift to me is that it does accommodate a wide range of language and visual formats.  For me, I enjoy the multiple perspectives as the human condition.  For me, the struggle to conform has been like a noose that slowly tightened around my neck and just about snuffed me out at different times in my life.  This group includes some of the most creative, intelligent and interesting people I've come across in a long time.  The joy of experiencing a robust internet forum with multiple viewpoints is well worth any personal offense taken along the way, IMHO, and further affords opportunities to articulate your own position, or step back and let go, or question/clarify one's own mental/emotional constructs.  For me, I often feel something larger in place here that transcends (and I use that word very loosely) what may be interpreted as petty or insulting or mundane at face value.  I hope you stay and speak out as you see fit.   From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wow  Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in Majorca in 1969. I was 14 at the time. I remember paying one week's allowance for this. I transferred from Colgate University in 1975 to MIU after attending an SCI course at Livingston Manor. It blew me away and I just had to come to FF! I attended MIU from the Fall of 1975 until graduation in 1980. I left FF for a while living in upstate NY with my then boyfriend and fellow MIU graduate. After a couple of years I returned to FF (don't we all at some time?) and taught a horseback riding program with another friend of mine for the students and meditators in town. Around that time I also had a friend that had attended the first Robin Carlsen lecture in town. Their description of it intrigued me. I proceeded to watch a seminar tape, was blown away by that and jumped head first into the most amazing three and a half years of my life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? Just wondering, where you are coming from. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week
Personal authenticity is composed of more than talking in the same conceptual language. Branding is just a word and means nothing more than an informal but confirmed consensus among posters that someone lacks intellectual integrity. It happens through a preponderance of interactions with other posters and is not predicated upon any agreement or disagreement about our differing viewpoints or conclusions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nemodomi nemodomi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: How about something more than just another one of your unsubstantiated claims? Where did you learn TM/TMSP? What were the dates and places of initiation? Who were your TM/TMSP course teachers? You should take these questions seriously. You are perilously close to being branded on FFL as a bold-face liar. Yee-ha! As a sometimes-mostly-lurker here, I want to thank you for bringing out the BIG GUNS! You've just upped the entertainment value significantly for me. :-) By way of (re-?)introduction, I'd like to play along ... Where did you learn TM/TMSP? Reading, PA / the Academy in the Catskills. What were the dates and places of initiation? Wow. Who'd even wanna bother remembering those tedious details?! But I'll give it my best shot: Reading, PA, October, 1970. Bonus points: Initiator was David Katz, late of cheesecake-production fame. More bonus points: I once attended a Charlie Lutes lecture. 1st advanced technique: Philadelphia, PA, ca. 1972. Bonus points: Initiator was that nasty lady who was, I think, the only one who was handing out techniques at that time. Who were your TM/TMSP course teachers? Eesh. Apparently GMO-brain has settled in. Lemme probe ... SCI Course: Orono, ME, ca. 1971. Teachers? No idea. T.T. part one: Catskills Academy, ca. 1974. Teachers were some nice guy whose name I totally forget and some nice gal named Jean(ne). And I'm pretty sure that Rick was some sort of assistant teacher at that one. [Hiya Rick! :-) :-) :-) I'm the guy whom that nice guy whose name I totally forget described as one who speaks in aphorisms. I'm sure you recall. Heh.] T.T. part two: Biarritz, France, ca. 1976. No recollection of teachers' names, though I could still recite the mantras list for ya if ya like. Sidhis/Governors course: Catskills Academy, ca. 1978. Don't recall any teachers' names. Never hopped, either. Poo. (I could also provide a scan of my now-useless Governor of the Age of Enlightenment card if I were actually interested in proving anything to anyone.) Now to my questions ... You should take these questions seriously. You are perilously close to being branded on FFL as a bold-face liar. This has me intrigued. I'm not familiar with the branding process on this forum. Is it done by popular vote, or simply by unilateral decree? If the former, how much participation here would qualify one to vote? Thanks in advance, and, as always, JGD! p.s. People, please trim your posts. Seriously.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF I wouldn't bother to reply, but I kinda like the metaphor of all of us TMers as pigs riding in a cart to the market. It is heartening to learn that those who stayed on the cart still are looking forward to a bright future at the market, while considering those of us who wriggled away as the losers in this scenario. :-) Turq would never bother to reply, but...as he was one who wiggled out on the surplus market floor and never made grade for checkout.
[FairfieldLife] I Was Rescued from Ignorance
I Was Rescued from Ignorance by the Lord's Army...Swamp Preacher David Sandlin: http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/previousshows/2008/sandlin/sandlin19.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
On 01/18/2012 12:29 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 01/18/2012 07:31 AM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote: So you two Barry's support the Hollywood billionaires AND the Silicon Valley billionaires? Go figure. You sure don't read much of what I post. Try being more of an asshole. Works for me. :-) We don't want him to cry though. I usually ignore him but it's been a slow week and plenty of posts to use. And is really mixed up about these Internet bills. Yesterday he posted a link to an article he must not have read because it also opposed the bill. What would we do without the village idiot? :-D
[FairfieldLife] Stop PIPA too!
PIPA, the Protect IP bill, is also being shoved through the Senate. Our two California senators seemed to have turned into Hollywood Whores supporting the bill. I'm not surprised that Feinstein would though. I've written her several times about my concerns over such legislation and gotten back these lame thought out reasons why she supports the bill. Geez, do I have to vote for Thom Campbell next time (a Republican but liberal and tech savvy and former Congressman)? http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111214/17504317092/ Get on the horn to your senator!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Justified is back
On 01/18/2012 06:35 AM, turquoiseb wrote: And our patient wait is...uh...justified. There was more snappy, Elmore Leonard-style dialog in the first five minutes of the first episode of the third season than there has been on TV as a whole since...uh...the last episode of the second season. Timothy Oliphant continues to be wonderful as Marshal Raylan Givens, as do the rest of the regular cast -- Nick Searcy, Joelle Carter, Natalie Zea, and Walton Goggins. And there are a couple of new faces. Good villain in the first episode, too, well played by Desmond Harrington from Dexter. If you haven't been following Justified all along, you could probably drop into it starting with this season without feeling that you've missed too much. But why deprive yourself? If there is any TV series that deserves to be seen from the beginning, it's this one. Didn't get to it last night as I was finished watching the latest episodes of Don Cheadle's show, Calfornication and Lost Girl which is a 2010 CBC show being repackaged as a Syfy Original before Justified started recording and I don't like to watch commercials so saved it for tonight. Lost Girl isn't bad and shot more like a BBC series which I like instead of the American head shots only your dentist would love style. It may turn out to be just a little too juvenile for my taste though. So instead I chose to watch an Argentine horror flick on Netflix called Phase 7 which was very well done. It's about a world flu epidemic breaking out and a bunch of people in a well stocked apartment complex trying to survive a quarantine. Again the not for everyone warning as their un-sattvic gore and violence in it. But there are some folks here who find such films interesting especially from other cultures. http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Phase_7/70178258 Up for tomorrow night is the critically acclaimed Bellflower arriving on BD after a long wait spell. The filmmakers even built a special camera for it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout
So you two Barry's support the Hollywood billionaires AND the Silicon Valley billionaires? Go figure. Bhairitu: You sure don't read much of what I post. Apparently it's the two Barry's that have the most to lose if the bill passes - free movie downloads. Yesterday he posted a link to an article he must not have read because it also opposed the bill. So, who said I was in favor of the bill? What would we do without the village idiot? :-D What would we do without the village pirates?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
This sounds more secret than a secret handshake. What exactly is the female perspective/experience that distinguishes it from a human one? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Awoelflebater, Wow sounds about right then.  You could be in the right place.  Cat fight is probably the wrong term, which generally assumes a fight between *women* and the majority of the exchanges are between *individuals*, irrespective of gender, or reflect differences in the male/female experience.  (Having said that, I've jumped in from my perspective as a female on several occasions.)  I think of the exchanges here as healthy debates; the forum allows for an expanded level of freedom of expression which is good and posts can be very funny, even the *off-color* ones, from a certain perspective.  Yes, sometimes the language descends into what would be considered the *gutter*, applying typical social convention, but on the other hand, it almost always sparks additional debate.  Few scenarios of this ilk are left untouched and not commented on. This is a different venue and the gift to me is that it does accommodate a wide range of language and visual formats.  For me, I enjoy the multiple perspectives as the human condition.  For me, the struggle to conform has been like a noose that slowly tightened around my neck and just about snuffed me out at different times in my life.  This group includes some of the most creative, intelligent and interesting people I've come across in a long time.  The joy of experiencing a robust internet forum with multiple viewpoints is well worth any personal offense taken along the way, IMHO, and further affords opportunities to articulate your own position, or step back and let go, or question/clarify one's own mental/emotional constructs.  For me, I often feel something larger in place here that transcends (and I use that word very loosely) what may be interpreted as petty or insulting or mundane at face value.  I hope you stay and speak out as you see fit.   From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wow  Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in Majorca in 1969. I was 14 at the time. I remember paying one week's allowance for this. I transferred from Colgate University in 1975 to MIU after attending an SCI course at Livingston Manor. It blew me away and I just had to come to FF! I attended MIU from the Fall of 1975 until graduation in 1980. I left FF for a while living in upstate NY with my then boyfriend and fellow MIU graduate. After a couple of years I returned to FF (don't we all at some time?) and taught a horseback riding program with another friend of mine for the students and meditators in town. Around that time I also had a friend that had attended the first Robin Carlsen lecture in town. Their description of it intrigued me. I proceeded to watch a seminar tape, was blown away by that and jumped head first into the most amazing three and a half years of my life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? Just wondering, where you are coming from. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
So, looking back, what is your judgement of RWC's previous claims to enlightenment and his current conversion to Catholicism? Dare you say? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in Majorca in 1969. I was 14 at the time. I remember paying one week's allowance for this. I transferred from Colgate University in 1975 to MIU after attending an SCI course at Livingston Manor. It blew me away and I just had to come to FF! I attended MIU from the Fall of 1975 until graduation in 1980. I left FF for a while living in upstate NY with my then boyfriend and fellow MIU graduate. After a couple of years I returned to FF (don't we all at some time?) and taught a horseback riding program with another friend of mine for the students and meditators in town. Around that time I also had a friend that had attended the first Robin Carlsen lecture in town. Their description of it intrigued me. I proceeded to watch a seminar tape, was blown away by that and jumped head first into the most amazing three and a half years of my life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? Just wondering, where you are coming from. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Is Fully Prepared
John, You mean a line in water ... which disappears even as it is drawn. Barry Hussein is probably not prepared to do too much. However, the Joint Chiefs must expect such trouble and must therefore plan to execute some type of counter-action. So will it help the re-election of the One? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: That's what Panetta said regarding any challenge that Iran may impose at the Straight of Hormuz. A line has been drawn on the sand, figuratively speaking. What will Iran do next? http://news.yahoo.com/panetta-us-fully-prepared-iran-challenge-193126193\ .html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
I didn't say distinguished from the larger human one, talking bigger picture, but yes, but distinguished from the male one as a subset of human. It goes without saying that the female experience (i.e. the experience of being incarnated into a female body) is different than the male experience (i.e. incarnated into a male body). I was just acknowledging that there is a difference in experience and that one gender will never *know* what it feels like to be the other. Hence, differences are reflected in the interplay between the two, as evidenced on this forum. And, I'm not talking about the soul, or astral plane, or other planes of reality, just this physical, mental, emotional one. From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wow This sounds more secret than a secret handshake. What exactly is the female perspective/experience that distinguishes it from a human one? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Awoelflebater, Wow sounds about right then.  You could be in the right place.  Cat fight is probably the wrong term, which generally assumes a fight between *women* and the majority of the exchanges are between *individuals*, irrespective of gender, or reflect differences in the male/female experience.  (Having said that, I've jumped in from my perspective as a female on several occasions.)  I think of the exchanges here as healthy debates; the forum allows for an expanded level of freedom of expression which is good and posts can be very funny, even the *off-color* ones, from a certain perspective.  Yes, sometimes the language descends into what would be considered the *gutter*, applying typical social convention, but on the other hand, it almost always sparks additional debate.  Few scenarios of this ilk are left untouched and not commented on. This is a different venue and the gift to me is that it does accommodate a wide range of language and visual formats.  For me, I enjoy the multiple perspectives as the human condition.  For me, the struggle to conform has been like a noose that slowly tightened around my neck and just about snuffed me out at different times in my life.  This group includes some of the most creative, intelligent and interesting people I've come across in a long time.  The joy of experiencing a robust internet forum with multiple viewpoints is well worth any personal offense taken along the way, IMHO, and further affords opportunities to articulate your own position, or step back and let go, or question/clarify one's own mental/emotional constructs.  For me, I often feel something larger in place here that transcends (and I use that word very loosely) what may be interpreted as petty or insulting or mundane at face value.  I hope you stay and speak out as you see fit.   From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wow  Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in Majorca in 1969. I was 14 at the time. I remember paying one week's allowance for this. I transferred from Colgate University in 1975 to MIU after attending an SCI course at Livingston Manor. It blew me away and I just had to come to FF! I attended MIU from the Fall of 1975 until graduation in 1980. I left FF for a while living in upstate NY with my then boyfriend and fellow MIU graduate. After a couple of years I returned to FF (don't we all at some time?) and taught a horseback riding program with another friend of mine for the students and meditators in town. Around that time I also had a friend that had attended the first Robin Carlsen lecture in town. Their description of it intrigued me. I proceeded to watch a seminar tape, was blown away by that and jumped head first into the most amazing three and a half years of my life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? Just wondering, where you are coming from. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
It is not usually a matter of if I dare say, it is more a case of whether I am able to say. I have limited knowledge of Robin today. I have not spoken to or seen him for 25 years. I only remember his conversion to Catholicism back in 1985 or so and the transition for the group from an emphasis on teachings based on Vedic philosophy to Christianity. Having been raised Catholic this was old news for me and not someplace I really wanted to revisit. I was also branded an evil being at this point and sent packing. I watched from afar via videotapes the somewhat forced transformation my friends were struggling to embrace. This was a pretty big leap for lots of them, including our Jewish contingent. But you must know more about his current adherence to Catholicism than I do through his FFL posts. I have no real judgement of Robin's enlightenment. I was attracted to him because he was bucking the TM movement. I am not sure why that appealed to me. I had been meditating since an early age and had graduated from MIU and had no real issues with the movement or Maharishi or anything else. My sister was a student and TM teacher there, my other sister was on the faculty and my brother in law was Dean of Faculty and taught in the art department. Both my parents meditated as well. So we were pretty immersed in TM as a family. I guess I admired Robin's individuality, his willingness to step outside, way outside, the status quo. His claims to enlightenment were secondary to the fact that the prospect of jumping on this horse (WTS) promised a few bronco busting moments. It proved to be quite a ride. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: So, looking back, what is your judgement of RWC's previous claims to enlightenment and his current conversion to Catholicism? Dare you say? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in Majorca in 1969. I was 14 at the time. I remember paying one week's allowance for this. I transferred from Colgate University in 1975 to MIU after attending an SCI course at Livingston Manor. It blew me away and I just had to come to FF! I attended MIU from the Fall of 1975 until graduation in 1980. I left FF for a while living in upstate NY with my then boyfriend and fellow MIU graduate. After a couple of years I returned to FF (don't we all at some time?) and taught a horseback riding program with another friend of mine for the students and meditators in town. Around that time I also had a friend that had attended the first Robin Carlsen lecture in town. Their description of it intrigued me. I proceeded to watch a seminar tape, was blown away by that and jumped head first into the most amazing three and a half years of my life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? Just wondering, where you are coming from. -Buck in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are right. Good luck to you all. Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as mundane as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you like the result. :-) As for trying to convince others that we're right, well that is something not everyone here indulges in. Some just know that they're right. :-) Awoelf, You come in to the middle of something here. Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness these fallen away wriggle the way they do. Kindly, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Is Fully Prepared
Emptybill, It appears that the US is pushing the envelope to make sure that Iran doesn't close the straight. In other words, the US is willing to pursue a more aggressive step as was taken in Iraq and Afghanistan. It all depends on what Iran will do. If they back down, Obama will look good and should help his cause for re-election. Let's hope that a shootout will not occur. The US cannot afford another war. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: John, You mean a line in water ... which disappears even as it is drawn. Barry Hussein is probably not prepared to do too much. However, the Joint Chiefs must expect such trouble and must therefore plan to execute some type of counter-action. So will it help the re-election of the One? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: That's what Panetta said regarding any challenge that Iran may impose at the Straight of Hormuz. A line has been drawn on the sand, figuratively speaking. What will Iran do next? http://news.yahoo.com/panetta-us-fully-prepared-iran-challenge-193126193\ .html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: So, looking back, what is your judgement of RWC's previous claims to enlightenment and his current conversion to Catholicism? It's no longer current, emptybill. He did convert, but he's said at least a dozen times here--including at least once directly to you, quite forcefully--that he's given up on Catholicism as well as TM. From his post 295520, November 15: I appreciate the vehemence of your beliefs, emptybill. At least you are taking me seriously. but you must take me at my wordand I challenge you to find a single iota of proof to the contrary in all my posts at FFLthat I am not a Catholic*in any form whatsoever*. It may just be that my not defining myself as such, but alluding to Catholicism and Thomas Aquinas, has just about driven you out of your mind. WTF? This guy is bizarre. And you might have a point there, emptybill. But believe me I am sincere and only interested in strengthening my own understanding of what this is all about; I post on FFL in order to elicit just the kind of response that you have given to me here. Because I am thus forced back upon myself and have the opportunity to once again confirm what I know is the truth of my experience and my own philosophy. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/295520 And from a follow-up in response to your reply: For me, emptybill, it is as if there never was a God, never was the Incarnation, never was heaven or hell, never was sin and judgment and grace and Mary and the sacraments and the salvation of the soul. Those are just two examples of *many*.
