Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-07-01 Thread catatonya
Cassandra,
   
  I am so terribly, terribly sorry.  I can't imagine how you must feel right 
now.  Please know that you did your best, and you gave Tomi, Kisa, and Koda the 
best possible lives.  Lives that millions of cats never have a chance to live.
   
  take care of YOU.
  tonya

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I 
have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was 
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.
   
  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.
   
  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when 
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He never 
showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never 
got angry.
   
  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was devastated. 
 I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I was 
sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another good 8 weeks 
with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close 
buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as 
I would have liked.
   
  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed 
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he 
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, 
and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.
   
  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, but 
his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began panting, 
and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so scared 
and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse 
thing i've ever experienced.  
   
  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.
   
  Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks 
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.
   
  Cassandra



Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-30 Thread Gina WN
Cassandra,

I'm just now reading all the email from the list.  I got a bit behind.  I 
didn't realize that you had just lost Tomi.  I am so sorry! :(  Following on 
the loss of Kisa and Koda must be devistating.

Losing your best friend in Tomi is so heartbreaking.  You saved him from a life 
on the streets if he even made it that far.  With you, he experienced great 
love and care.

I'll be thinking about you and sending healing vibes.

Gina

Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cassandra I am so sorry you lost your 
sweet Tomi.You were a great Mama to him.Hugs to you,
  Sherry

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I 
have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was 
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.
   
  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there  was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.
   
  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when 
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He never 
showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never 
got angry.
   
  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was devastated. 
 I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I was 
sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another good 8 weeks 
with  him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close 
buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as 
I would have liked.
   
  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed 
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he 
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, 
and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.
   
  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, but 
his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began panting, 
and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so scared 
and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse 
thing i've ever experienced.   
   
  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.
   
  Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks 
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.
   
  Cassandra



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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-30 Thread Gina WN
Your pictures are so beautiful.  They made me cry.  

I feel about my Tigger the way you feel about Tomi.  I've had him for 14+ years 
and it's still not enough.  You only had your Tomi for a short time and it is 
natural to want more time.  We are here for you whenever you need us.

Peace,
Gina

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Thank you all so much for your thoughts 
and prayers.   Knowing there are people out there who truly understand and care 
without having  ever met myself or my babies means so much to me.  This is a 
link to a  picture I made the first time Tomi was sick, and have since had 
printed and  framed (Tomi is on the left, Kisa on the right):  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg .   Now that 
they are both gone, I guess it is even more fitting.
  
 Here is another pic that I like of them:  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/Kissing.jpg
  
 Today is still pretty tough for me.  I still can hear  Tomi's cries at the 
end, and it is breaking my heart.  Everytime I think of  it, I just feel like 
punching something.  I felt so useless and terrified  for him. 
  
 I realize I lost my best friend after my husband  yesterday.  Even if we were 
to get another kitten or two one day, I don't  think i'll ever have as close a 
bond again as I did with Tomi.  I just wish  he could have stayed for longer 
than the 2.5 years I had with him.  My  house feels so empty now.  I can no 
longer give my little boy a good long  hug when I feel upset.
  
 Cassandra
  
  
- Original Message - 
   From:C  J 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
   Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa andKoda
   

   I've just lost my closest friend other than myhusband.  Tomi and I have 
had a special bond ever since my husbandbrought him home.  My husband was 
out walking the dog by the river inOctober of 2004, on a cold and rainy 
day.  There was a kitten crying inthe trees, cold and wet, and my husband 
couldn't just leave him there.  Iwasn't impressed at first, since we 
already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly wonme over.  I've had a very close 
bond with him ever since.

   He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was astrange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catchhim to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one timetoo, it sort of 
looked like a question mark when it was straight up. Tomi quickly came 
around though and trusted us, though he still always hidwhen any strangers 
came to the house.

   Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledgedyour presence 
when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at himsometimes.  He 
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him toomany hugs/kisses, 
and never got angry.

   3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV,I was 
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months untilhe 
crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back andgave me 
another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had towatch Koda 
and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get tospend as 
much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.

   Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi gotsick and 
crashed again with the anemia.  He was having a hard timebreathing, and 
again he bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite,eating everything 
I gave him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, hestarted to crash again.

   Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him andstill drinking, 
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then aroundnoon, he began 
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt meforever.  He was 
so scared and crying because he couldn't catch hisbreath.  This is 
absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced. 

   A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  Iguess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the painwill eventually 
turn to numbness.

   Thank you all for the support you've given me through all ofthis.  It 
looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop sinceMarch 9 is now 
over.

   Cassandra
  

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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-30 Thread Gloria Lane
I'm so sorry, Cassandra, I know how awful it feels to lose a baby  
from anemia and/ or lymphoma.  And to be haunted by the way they  
die.  But I do find that sometimes what haunted me can change in my  
perspective and no longer haunt me.  Tomi was so fortunate to have  
found you. May you find blessings in your memories of Tomi.


Gloria


On Jun 24, 2007, at 3:05 PM, C  J wrote:

I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I  
have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My  
husband was out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on  
a cold and rainy day.  There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold  
and wet, and my husband couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't  
impressed at first, since we already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly  
won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever since.


He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange  
noise or person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch  
him to bring him home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one  
time too, it sort of looked like a question mark when it was  
straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though and trusted us,  
though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.


Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your  
presence when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at  
him sometimes.  He never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave  
him too many hugs/kisses, and never got angry.


3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was  
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until  
he crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back  
and gave me another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time  
I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die,  
so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as I would have  
liked.


Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and  
crashed again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time  
breathing, and again he bounced back.  Last week he had a huge  
appetite, eating everything I gave him, and drank lots of water.   
Yesterday, he started to crash again.


Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still  
drinking, but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around  
noon, he began panting, and I watched him die in a way that will  
haunt me forever.  He was so scared and crying because he couldn't  
catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse thing i've ever  
experienced.


A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll  
just wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain  
will eventually turn to numbness.


Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.   
It looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since  
March 9 is now over.


Cassandra





Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-28 Thread cindy reasoner
Cassandra,

I am so sorry that you lost your precious Tomi and
Koda and Kisa.  I can't imagine how hard this has been
for you.

Cindy Reasoner

--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just lost my closest friend other than my
 husband.  Tomi and I have had a special bond ever
 since my husband brought him home.  My husband was
 out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004,
 on a cold and rainy day.  There was a kitten crying
 in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't
 just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first,
 since we already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me
 over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever
 since.
 
 He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there
 was a strange noise or person, we often wondered how
 my husband was able to catch him to bring him home. 
 His tail had been broken at the end at one time too,
 it sort of looked like a question mark when it was
 straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though and
 trusted us, though he still always hid when any
 strangers came to the house.
 
 Tomi was the type of loving boy that always
 acknowledged your presence when you touched him or
 talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He
 never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him
 too many hugs/kisses, and never got angry.
 
 3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and
 had FeLV, I was devastated.  I watched him slowly
 decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I
 was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back
 and gave me another good 8 weeks with him.  Except
 during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa
 (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't
 get to spend as much time with my Tomi as I would
 have liked.
 
 Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12,
 Tomi got sick and crashed again with the anemia.  He
 was having a hard time breathing, and again he
 bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite,
 eating everything I gave him, and drank lots of
 water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.
 
 Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave
 him and still drinking, but his breathing was
 becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began
 panting, and I watched him die in a way that will
 haunt me forever.  He was so scared and crying
 because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is
 absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.  
 
 A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.
  I guess i'll just wander around like a zombie for
 awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn to
 numbness.
 
 Thank you all for the support you've given me
 through all of this.  It looks like this ordeal that
 has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.
 
 Cassandra



   

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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-27 Thread Belinda
  The problem is MANY times the vet ESPECIALLY with a positive cat will 
assume it's FIP and NOT look for anything else ... and the cat will die 
from something that was in many cases treatable.


And yes, there are lots of diseases that have similiar symptoms, but 
when those diseases are ruled out by medical tests, it only can be 
assumed that it is FIP.


--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candlelight Service
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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-27 Thread Susan Dubose
With Serenity, my felv+ kitty who passed last Thanksgiving, she was in the best 
veterinary hands that money could buy.
He is a feline specialist w/ 40+ yrs. experience.

Dr. Smith confirmed wet FIP, then we started her on predisone  Doxy.

Her stomach was huge, so I bought her a big donut type bed and put it on top 
of 2 thick blankets.

This way she could relax in comfort, because of all the cushioning and the 
donut area in the bed rested her belly.

She was a beautiful Sealpoint Rex that came from an animal cruelty 
confiscation, breeder gone bad situation.

The owner had a house fire, and the cats were trapped inside.

I also acquired Lola, a doll faced cream  chocolate Persian w/ her, as well as 
Ursula, an applehead Sealpoint Siamese.

Lola also tested a hot pos @ AC where she was being held w/ the other 65 cats 
 kittens that were confiscated, Ursula tested neg/neg.

When I took Ursula in for her spay 2 months later, she tested a light pos. for 
felv.

I still have Ursula  Lola, as well as Pugsley from this seizure.

Pugsley I call my $10,000. kitten.

He was in a litter of three kittens, all very small, undernourished, massive 
ringworm  life threatening URI.

One kitten passed fairly soon due to a non functioning GI track.

Pugsley was @ Central Texas Cat Hospital for 6 months, w/ his surviving 
littermate, in quarantine.

I only had space for either neg/neg cats or felv+. cats, no room for 
inbetweens.

After Serenity passed, I brought home Pugsley who still tests neg/ neg, even 
though he was from a house of 65 cats, most of who were felv+.

He must have been in cage or something.

Pugsley brings such joy to my life, (regardless of his litterbox issues) he is 
a flamepoint Rex now approaching his 1st birthday.

He had very tender skin that will irritate him from time to time, and chronic 
weepy eyes that I gentley wash several times per day.

Ursula was obviously a breeder, she is close to 5 yrs, was unspayed, and 
walks like she lived in a cage all of her life until I got her.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
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   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Belinda 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


 The problem is MANY times the vet ESPECIALLY with a positive cat will 
assume it's FIP and NOT look for anything else ... and the cat will die from 
something that was in many cases treatable.


And yes, there are lots of diseases that have similiar symptoms, but when 
those diseases are ruled out by medical tests, it only can be assumed that it 
is FIP.


-- 

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candlelight Service
http://bemikitties.com/cls

HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting  web design]
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BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]
http://bmk.bemikitties.com

Tomi

2007-06-27 Thread Jane Lyons


Cassandra
I've been off line for this past week and was so sad to see
that Tomi did not make it. My first thought was that at least he
is with Kisa and that they are both out of pain.
I hope you can take comfort in knowing that.

Jane




Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread PEC2851
Dear Cassandra,
Please know that I am sending my deepest sympathy to you  your  husband.
What a heart breaking time you have had...  Words can't even convey my  
feelings for your losses...
Much love,
Patti

 



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RE: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread Melissa Lind
Cassandra,

 

I don't even know you or your husband, but I've been so sad for you today. I
wish I could offer some words of comfort, but I know nothing can ease the
pain right now. Just know that you have many friends here to turn to if you
need someone to listen, or if you just want to grieve as you express love
and pain for your lost babies.

 

Melissa

 

I sent you a card off-list to your email address; I hope you don't mind.

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

 

I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have had
a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband
couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we
already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close
bond with him ever since.

 

He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of
looked like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came
around though and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers
came to the house.

 

Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses,
and never got angry.

 

3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he
crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me
another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda
and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as
much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.

 

Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

 

Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking,
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was
so scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is
absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.  

 

A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually
turn to numbness.

 

Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.

 

Cassandra



Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread C J
Tomi may have had wet FIP at the end, I don't know, but he was very anemic as 
well.  For the last week, his belly was swollen, and he was eating and drinking 
alot, but still getting thinner.  Does that sound like FIP?  I don't know where 
he would get that from.  Not that it matters I suppose, because he just 
couldn't deal with the anemia by itself, nevermind FIP thrown in.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan Dubose 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  Hi Cassandra,

  I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing 3 cats so close together 
must have been very hard on you.

  Question, was Tomi's labored breathing  panting due to his felv+ morphing 
into wet FIP?

  Susan
- Original Message - 
From: C  J 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have 
had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out 
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.

Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when 
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He never 
showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never 
got angry.

3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was 
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed 
and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another 
good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa 
(Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time 
with my Tomi as I would have liked.

Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed 
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he 
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, 
and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, 
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began 
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so 
scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the 
worse thing i've ever experienced.  

A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.

Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It 
looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.

Cassandra


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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
I am so sorry about Tomi.  It's very difficult to know now if he had FIP or not 
- there are lots of other causes for swollen belly than FIP - if you had done 
some lab work, I can probably take a look at and see if it was possibily FIP or 
not as I lost 8 kitties to FIP, I am somewhat familiar with diagnosis from the 
lab work.  My guess is, if he was eating a lot towards his final days, it makes 
me doubt that it was FIP -- lots of FIP kitties become anaroxic and won't be 
able to eat.. but also there is an individual difference - so it's hard to 
tell.. this sounds terrible, but I did not notice that my Peter was even sick 
until three days before he passed away... and it was the same way for Olive and 
Simba-- it progressed that fast.. while others, we have the chance to fight 
together for a couple of months.  And 6 out of 8 kitties I lost to FIP did 
suffer moderate anemia which had become more severe as the disease progressed 
to liver or kidney or neurologically.

Hideyo
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  Jmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  Tomi may have had wet FIP at the end, I don't know, but he was very anemic as 
well.  For the last week, his belly was swollen, and he was eating and drinking 
alot, but still getting thinner.  Does that sound like FIP?  I don't know where 
he would get that from.  Not that it matters I suppose, because he just 
couldn't deal with the anemia by itself, nevermind FIP thrown in.

  Cassandra
- Original Message - 
From: Susan Dubosemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


Hi Cassandra,

I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing 3 cats so close together 
must have been very hard on you.

Question, was Tomi's labored breathing  panting due to his felv+ morphing 
into wet FIP?

Susan
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  Jmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have 
had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out 
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.

  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence 
when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He 
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and 
never got angry.

  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was 
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed 
and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another 
good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa 
(Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time 
with my Tomi as I would have liked.

  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and 
crashed again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again 
he bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave 
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, 
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began 
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so 
scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the 
worse thing i've ever experienced.  

  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.

  Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It 
looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.

  Cassandra





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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread C J
Thank you all so much for your thoughts and prayers.  Knowing there are people 
out there who truly understand and care without having ever met myself or my 
babies means so much to me.  This is a link to a picture I made the first time 
Tomi was sick, and have since had printed and framed (Tomi is on the left, Kisa 
on the right):  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg .  Now that 
they are both gone, I guess it is even more fitting.

Here is another pic that I like of them:  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/Kissing.jpg

Today is still pretty tough for me.  I still can hear Tomi's cries at the end, 
and it is breaking my heart.  Everytime I think of it, I just feel like 
punching something.  I felt so useless and terrified for him. 

I realize I lost my best friend after my husband yesterday.  Even if we were to 
get another kitten or two one day, I don't think i'll ever have as close a bond 
again as I did with Tomi.  I just wish he could have stayed for longer than the 
2.5 years I had with him.  My house feels so empty now.  I can no longer give 
my little boy a good long hug when I feel upset.

Cassandra


  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have had 
a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out 
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.

  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when 
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He never 
showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never 
got angry.

  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was devastated. 
 I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I was 
sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another good 8 weeks 
with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close 
buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as 
I would have liked.

  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed 
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he 
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, 
and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, but 
his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began panting, 
and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so scared 
and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse 
thing i've ever experienced.  

  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.

  Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks 
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.

  Cassandra


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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread Kelley Saveika

Cassandra,

I'm so very sorry for your loss.

Kelley

On 6/25/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you all so much for your thoughts and prayers.  Knowing there are
people out there who truly understand and care without having ever met
myself or my babies means so much to me.  This is a link to a picture I made
the first time Tomi was sick, and have since had printed and framed (Tomi is
on the left, Kisa on the right):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg
.  Now that they are both gone, I guess it is even more fitting.

Here is another pic that I like of them:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/Kissing.jpg

Today is still pretty tough for me.  I still can hear Tomi's cries at the
end, and it is breaking my heart.  Everytime I think of it, I just feel like
punching something.  I felt so useless and terrified for him.

I realize I lost my best friend after my husband yesterday.  Even if we were
to get another kitten or two one day, I don't think i'll ever have as close
a bond again as I did with Tomi.  I just wish he could have stayed for
longer than the 2.5 years I had with him.  My house feels so empty now.  I
can no longer give my little boy a good long hug when I feel upset.

Cassandra


- Original Message -
From: C  J
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have had
a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband
couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we
already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close
bond with him ever since.

He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of
looked like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came
around though and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers
came to the house.

Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses,
and never got angry.

3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he
crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me
another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda
and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as
much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.

Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking,
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was
so scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is
absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.

A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually
turn to numbness.

Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.

Cassandra




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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread Susan Dubose
Yes, it certainly sounds like wet FIP.

All cats carry the corona virus, which can morph into FIP.

It really just depends on genetics, age, (very young  older cats) and on 
extenuating circumstance like being felv+. (immune compromised)

There are 2 forms of FIP, the wet  the dry.

My first felv+ kitty, Serenity, passed away from wet FIP.

Their belly begins to swell, to the point where it presses against their lungs 
and makes it hard for them to breath.

Their belly actually accumulates fluid, and the vet can withdraw some for 
testing.

Their backbone will become more prominent, also.

Eventually w/ their swollen belly, breathing becomes labored and they will 
begin to pant towards the end.

Also, you can watch their nostrils for a tiny flare', another way to tell they 
cannot breath.

it is @ this time that you say good bye..  :(...

I had to take Serenity to the emergency room to be PTS on a Sat. night on 
Thanksgiving weekend.

Oh, it was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do.

But you must remember, a compassionate  dignfied death is one of the best 
gifts you can give these cats.

There is no real test for FIP, w/ the exception of withdrawing the fluid fromt 
he belly for testing.

And w/ dry FIP you cannot even do this.

You can, however, have a necropacy (?) performed afterwards, however, if the 
cat is felv+, there is no point.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  Tomi may have had wet FIP at the end, I don't know, but he was very anemic as 
well.  For the last week, his belly was swollen, and he was eating and drinking 
alot, but still getting thinner.  Does that sound like FIP?  I don't know where 
he would get that from.  Not that it matters I suppose, because he just 
couldn't deal with the anemia by itself, nevermind FIP thrown in.

  Cassandra
- Original Message - 
From: Susan Dubose 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


Hi Cassandra,

I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing 3 cats so close together 
must have been very hard on you.

Question, was Tomi's labored breathing  panting due to his felv+ morphing 
into wet FIP?

Susan
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have 
had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out 
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.

  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence 
when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He 
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and 
never got angry.

  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was 
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed 
and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another 
good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa 
(Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time 
with my Tomi as I would have liked.

  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and 
crashed again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again 
he bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave 
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, 
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began 
panting, and I

Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread dede hicken
What sweet and beautiful pictures.  They are so close.
 I am certain they are happy together now.

Dede



--- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cassandra,
 
 I'm so very sorry for your loss.
 
 Kelley
 
 On 6/25/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thank you all so much for your thoughts and
 prayers.  Knowing there are
  people out there who truly understand and care
 without having ever met
  myself or my babies means so much to me.  This is
 a link to a picture I made
  the first time Tomi was sick, and have since had
 printed and framed (Tomi is
  on the left, Kisa on the right):
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg
  .  Now that they are both gone, I guess it is even
 more fitting.
 
  Here is another pic that I like of them:
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/Kissing.jpg
 
  Today is still pretty tough for me.  I still can
 hear Tomi's cries at the
  end, and it is breaking my heart.  Everytime I
 think of it, I just feel like
  punching something.  I felt so useless and
 terrified for him.
 
  I realize I lost my best friend after my husband
 yesterday.  Even if we were
  to get another kitten or two one day, I don't
 think i'll ever have as close
  a bond again as I did with Tomi.  I just wish he
 could have stayed for
  longer than the 2.5 years I had with him.  My
 house feels so empty now.  I
  can no longer give my little boy a good long hug
 when I feel upset.
 
  Cassandra
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: C  J
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
 
 
  I've just lost my closest friend other than my
 husband.  Tomi and I have had
  a special bond ever since my husband brought him
 home.  My husband was out
  walking the dog by the river in October of 2004,
 on a cold and rainy day.
  There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and
 wet, and my husband
  couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed
 at first, since we
  already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over. 
 I've had a very close
  bond with him ever since.
 
  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there
 was a strange noise or
  person, we often wondered how my husband was able
 to catch him to bring him
  home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one
 time too, it sort of
  looked like a question mark when it was straight
 up.  Tomi quickly came
  around though and trusted us, though he still
 always hid when any strangers
  came to the house.
 
  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always
 acknowledged your presence when
  you touched him or talked to him...or even looked
 at him sometimes.  He
  never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave
 him too many hugs/kisses,
  and never got angry.
 
  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and
 had FeLV, I was
  devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for
 nearly 2 months until he
  crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he
 bounced back and gave me
  another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this
 time I had to watch Koda
  and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so
 I didn't get to spend as
  much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.
 
  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12,
 Tomi got sick and crashed
  again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time
 breathing, and again he
  bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite,
 eating everything I gave
  him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he
 started to crash again.
 
  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave
 him and still drinking,
  but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then
 around noon, he began
  panting, and I watched him die in a way that will
 haunt me forever.  He was
  so scared and crying because he couldn't catch his
 breath.  This is
  absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.
 
  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now
 gone.  I guess i'll just
  wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe
 the pain will eventually
  turn to numbness.
 
  Thank you all for the support you've given me
 through all of this.  It looks
  like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop
 since March 9 is now over.
 
  Cassandra
 
  
 
 
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  11:08 AM
 
 
 
 
 
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 http://www.rescuties.org
 
 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
 
 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
 
 Please help Caroline!
 
 http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline
 
 I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
 
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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Cassandra,they are absolutley beautiful angels

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Thank you all so much for your 
thoughts and prayers.  Knowing there are people out there who truly understand 
and care without having ever met myself or my babies means so much to me.  This 
is a link to a picture I made the first time Tomi was sick, and have since had 
printed and framed (Tomi is on the left, Kisa on the right):  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg .  Now that 
they are both gone, I guess it is even more fitting.
   
  Here is another pic that I like of them:  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/Kissing.jpg
   
  Today is still pretty tough for me.  I still can hear Tomi's cries at the 
end, and it is breaking my heart.  Everytime I think of it, I just feel like 
punching something.  I felt so useless and terrified for him. 
   
  I realize I lost my best friend after my husband yesterday.  Even if we were 
to get another kitten or two one day, I don't think i'll ever have as close a 
bond again as I did with Tomi.  I just wish he could have stayed for longer 
than the 2.5 years I had with him.  My house feels so empty now.  I can no 
longer give my little boy a good long hug when I feel upset.
   
  Cassandra
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
  

  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have had 
a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out 
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.
   
  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.
   
  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when 
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He never 
showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never 
got angry.
   
  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was devastated. 
 I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I was 
sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another good 8 weeks 
with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close 
buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as 
I would have liked.
   
  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed 
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he 
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, 
and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.
   
  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, but 
his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began panting, 
and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so scared 
and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse 
thing i've ever experienced.  
   
  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.
   
  Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks 
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.
   
  Cassandra

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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread Marylyn
What wonderful pictures and what good friends they are.  It isn't of much 
comfort right now but they are happily together.  Maybe the thought of them all 
being together, playing, napping and doing all those things cats do will be of 
help later. 






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  Cassandra,they are absolutley beautiful angels

  C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Thank you all so much for your thoughts and prayers.  Knowing there are 
people out there who truly understand and care without having ever met myself 
or my babies means so much to me.  This is a link to a picture I made the first 
time Tomi was sick, and have since had printed and framed (Tomi is on the left, 
Kisa on the right):  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg .  Now that 
they are both gone, I guess it is even more fitting.

Here is another pic that I like of them:  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/Kissing.jpg

Today is still pretty tough for me.  I still can hear Tomi's cries at the 
end, and it is breaking my heart.  Everytime I think of it, I just feel like 
punching something.  I felt so useless and terrified for him. 

I realize I lost my best friend after my husband yesterday.  Even if we 
were to get another kitten or two one day, I don't think i'll ever have as 
close a bond again as I did with Tomi.  I just wish he could have stayed for 
longer than the 2.5 years I had with him.  My house feels so empty now.  I can 
no longer give my little boy a good long hug when I feel upset.

Cassandra


  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have 
had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out 
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.

  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence 
when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He 
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and 
never got angry.

  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was 
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed 
and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another 
good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa 
(Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time 
with my Tomi as I would have liked.

  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and 
crashed again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again 
he bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave 
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, 
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began 
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so 
scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the 
worse thing i've ever experienced.  

  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.

  Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It 
looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.

  Cassandra

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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread MaryChristine

no, ALL cats do NOT carry the corona virus. please get your facts straight
before posting things.

On 6/25/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yes, it certainly sounds like wet FIP.

All cats carry the corona virus, which can morph into FIP.

It really just depends on genetics, age, (very young  older cats) and on
extenuating circumstance like being felv+. (immune compromised)

There are 2 forms of FIP, the wet  the dry.

My first felv+ kitty, Serenity, passed away from wet FIP.

Their belly begins to swell, to the point where it presses against their
lungs and makes it hard for them to breath.

Their belly actually accumulates fluid, and the vet can withdraw some for
testing.

Their backbone will become more prominent, also.

Eventually w/ their swollen belly, breathing becomes labored and they will
begin to pant towards the end.

Also, you can watch their nostrils for a tiny flare', another way to tell
they cannot breath.

it is @ this time that you say good bye..  :(...

I had to take Serenity to the emergency room to be PTS on a Sat. night on
Thanksgiving weekend.

Oh, it was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do.

But you must remember, a compassionate  dignfied death is one of the best
gifts you can give these cats.

There is no real test for FIP, w/ the exception of withdrawing the fluid
fromt he belly for testing.

And w/ dry FIP you cannot even do this.

You can, however, have a necropacy (?) performed afterwards, however, if
the cat is felv+, there is no point.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent





- Original Message -
*From:* C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2007 2:53 PM
*Subject:* Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

Tomi may have had wet FIP at the end, I don't know, but he was very anemic
as well.  For the last week, his belly was swollen, and he was eating and
drinking alot, but still getting thinner.  Does that sound like FIP?  I
don't know where he would get that from.  Not that it matters I suppose,
because he just couldn't deal with the anemia by itself, nevermind FIP
thrown in.

Cassandra

- Original Message -
*From:* Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
*Subject:* Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

Hi Cassandra,

I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing 3 cats so close
together must have been very hard on you.

Question, was Tomi's labored breathing  panting due to his felv+ morphing
into wet FIP?

Susan

- Original Message -
*From:* C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have
had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy
day.  There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband
couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we
already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close
bond with him ever since.

He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of
looked like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came
around though and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers
came to the house.

Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence
when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses,
and never got angry.

3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he
crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me
another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda
and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as
much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.

Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking,
but his breathing

Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Also, there are lots and lots of other (treatable) illness which mimic many 
symptoms of FIP - swallone belly, weight loss, difficulty breathing alone are 
NOT enough to even assume that its' FIP - For example, if you have a kitty with 
liver disease, symptoms you will see is a very similar as you mentioned, my 
baby Garfunkle wh passed away a year and half ago, had lost lots of weight 
during the short period of time, and backbone sticking out, and his belly was 
swalloen with fluid, he lost appetie and difficult time breathing -- but it was 
not FIP, but liver disease.

  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryChristinemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 5:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  no, ALL cats do NOT carry the corona virus. please get your facts straight 
before posting things. 


  On 6/25/07, Susan Dubose  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
Yes, it certainly sounds like wet FIP.

All cats carry the corona virus, which can morph into FIP.

It really just depends on genetics, age, (very young  older cats) and on 
extenuating circumstance like being felv+. (immune compromised)

There are 2 forms of FIP, the wet  the dry.

My first felv+ kitty, Serenity, passed away from wet FIP.

Their belly begins to swell, to the point where it presses against their 
lungs and makes it hard for them to breath.

Their belly actually accumulates fluid, and the vet can withdraw some for 
testing.

Their backbone will become more prominent, also.

Eventually w/ their swollen belly, breathing becomes labored and they will 
begin to pant towards the end.

Also, you can watch their nostrils for a tiny flare', another way to tell 
they cannot breath.

it is @ this time that you say good bye..  :(...

I had to take Serenity to the emergency room to be PTS on a Sat. night on 
Thanksgiving weekend.

Oh, it was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do.

But you must remember, a compassionate  dignfied death is one of the best 
gifts you can give these cats.

There is no real test for FIP, w/ the exception of withdrawing the fluid 
fromt he belly for testing.

And w/ dry FIP you cannot even do this.

You can, however, have a necropacy (?) performed afterwards, however, if 
the cat is felv+, there is no point.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.comhttp://www.petgirlspetsitting.com/
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.orghttp://www.tx.siameserescue.org/
www.shadowcats.nethttp://www.shadowcats.net/
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: C  Jmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:53 PM 
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  Tomi may have had wet FIP at the end, I don't know, but he was very 
anemic as well.  For the last week, his belly was swollen, and he was eating 
and drinking alot, but still getting thinner.  Does that sound like FIP?  I 
don't know where he would get that from.  Not that it matters I suppose, 
because he just couldn't deal with the anemia by itself, nevermind FIP thrown 
in.

  Cassandra
- Original Message - 
From: Susan Dubosemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


Hi Cassandra,

I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing 3 cats so close 
together must have been very hard on you.

Question, was Tomi's labored breathing  panting due to his felv+ 
morphing into wet FIP?

Susan
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  Jmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I 
have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was 
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise 
or person

Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread Sally Davis

Cassandra

I have not been able to keep up with emails of late, but this caught my eye.
I am so sorry. I was so hoping Tomi would rally again. He is at peace and
you saved him from a much worse fate in the woods. He knows he was loved and
is your special angel.

My Tiny died of a sudden respiratory failure. With little warning that
anything was wrong. It too was awful to witness. Thankfully was quick. May
they play together in heaven.

Sally


Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread Susan Dubose
Ok,I was bit liberal w/ my wording.

All cats do not carry the corona virus.

I know that.

However, lots of cats do carry the corona virus, espeically cats in multi cat 
households.

Not all cats w/ the corona virus contact FIP, and it is not known why some do @ 
this point. 

Mostly, however, it will be very young, geriatrics or immune compromised cats 
like felv+ cats.

Feel free to correct if I am wrong.

And yes, there are lots of diseases that have similiar symptoms, but when those 
diseases are ruled out by medical tests, it only can be assumed that it is FIP.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryChristine 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  no, ALL cats do NOT carry the corona virus. please get your facts straight 
before posting things. 


  On 6/25/07, Susan Dubose  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, it certainly sounds like wet FIP.

All cats carry the corona virus, which can morph into FIP.

It really just depends on genetics, age, (very young  older cats) and on 
extenuating circumstance like being felv+. (immune compromised)

There are 2 forms of FIP, the wet  the dry.

My first felv+ kitty, Serenity, passed away from wet FIP.

Their belly begins to swell, to the point where it presses against their 
lungs and makes it hard for them to breath.

Their belly actually accumulates fluid, and the vet can withdraw some for 
testing.

Their backbone will become more prominent, also.

Eventually w/ their swollen belly, breathing becomes labored and they will 
begin to pant towards the end.

Also, you can watch their nostrils for a tiny flare', another way to tell 
they cannot breath.

it is @ this time that you say good bye..  :(...

I had to take Serenity to the emergency room to be PTS on a Sat. night on 
Thanksgiving weekend.

Oh, it was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do.

But you must remember, a compassionate  dignfied death is one of the best 
gifts you can give these cats.

There is no real test for FIP, w/ the exception of withdrawing the fluid 
fromt he belly for testing.

And w/ dry FIP you cannot even do this.

You can, however, have a necropacy (?) performed afterwards, however, if 
the cat is felv+, there is no point.


Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:53 PM 
  Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  Tomi may have had wet FIP at the end, I don't know, but he was very 
anemic as well.  For the last week, his belly was swollen, and he was eating 
and drinking alot, but still getting thinner.  Does that sound like FIP?  I 
don't know where he would get that from.  Not that it matters I suppose, 
because he just couldn't deal with the anemia by itself, nevermind FIP thrown 
in.

  Cassandra
- Original Message - 
From: Susan Dubose 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


Hi Cassandra,

I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing 3 cats so close 
together must have been very hard on you.

Question, was Tomi's labored breathing  panting due to his felv+ 
morphing into wet FIP?

Susan
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I 
have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was 
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

  He

Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-25 Thread wendy
Ouch MC...that hurt...


--- MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 no, ALL cats do NOT carry the corona virus. please
 get your facts straight
 before posting things.
 
 On 6/25/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   Yes, it certainly sounds like wet FIP.
 
  All cats carry the corona virus, which can morph
 into FIP.
 
  It really just depends on genetics, age, (very
 young  older cats) and on
  extenuating circumstance like being felv+. (immune
 compromised)
 
  There are 2 forms of FIP, the wet  the dry.
 
  My first felv+ kitty, Serenity, passed away from
 wet FIP.
 
  Their belly begins to swell, to the point where it
 presses against their
  lungs and makes it hard for them to breath.
 
  Their belly actually accumulates fluid, and the
 vet can withdraw some for
  testing.
 
  Their backbone will become more prominent, also.
 
  Eventually w/ their swollen belly, breathing
 becomes labored and they will
  begin to pant towards the end.
 
  Also, you can watch their nostrils for a tiny
 flare', another way to tell
  they cannot breath.
 
  it is @ this time that you say good bye.. 
 :(...
 
  I had to take Serenity to the emergency room to be
 PTS on a Sat. night on
  Thanksgiving weekend.
 
  Oh, it was one of the hardest things I have ever
 had to do.
 
  But you must remember, a compassionate  dignfied
 death is one of the best
  gifts you can give these cats.
 
  There is no real test for FIP, w/ the exception of
 withdrawing the fluid
  fromt he belly for testing.
 
  And w/ dry FIP you cannot even do this.
 
  You can, however, have a necropacy (?) performed
 afterwards, however, if
  the cat is felv+, there is no point.
 
 
  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
  www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra
 lay in state,
 Faithful Bast
 at her side did wait,
 Purring
 welcomes of soft applause,
 Ever guarding
 with sharpened claws.
  
 Trajan Tennent
 
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2007 2:53 PM
  *Subject:* Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
 
  Tomi may have had wet FIP at the end, I don't
 know, but he was very anemic
  as well.  For the last week, his belly was
 swollen, and he was eating and
  drinking alot, but still getting thinner.  Does
 that sound like FIP?  I
  don't know where he would get that from.  Not that
 it matters I suppose,
  because he just couldn't deal with the anemia by
 itself, nevermind FIP
  thrown in.
 
  Cassandra
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
  *Subject:* Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
 
  Hi Cassandra,
 
  I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing
 3 cats so close
  together must have been very hard on you.
 
  Question, was Tomi's labored breathing  panting
 due to his felv+ morphing
  into wet FIP?
 
  Susan
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  *Subject:* Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
 
  I've just lost my closest friend other than my
 husband.  Tomi and I have
  had a special bond ever since my husband brought
 him home.  My husband was
  out walking the dog by the river in October of
 2004, on a cold and rainy
  day.  There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold
 and wet, and my husband
  couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed
 at first, since we
  already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over. 
 I've had a very close
  bond with him ever since.
 
  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there
 was a strange noise or
  person, we often wondered how my husband was able
 to catch him to bring him
  home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one
 time too, it sort of
  looked like a question mark when it was straight
 up.  Tomi quickly came
  around though and trusted us, though he still
 always hid when any strangers
  came to the house.
 
  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always
 acknowledged your presence
  when you touched him or talked to him...or even
 looked at him sometimes.  He
  never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave
 him too many hugs/kisses,
  and never got angry.
 
  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and
 had FeLV, I was
  devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for
 nearly 2 months until he
  crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he
 bounced back and gave me
  another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this
 time I had to watch Koda
  and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so
 I didn't get to spend as
  much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.
 
  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12,
 Tomi got

Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread C J
I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have had a 
special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out 
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.

Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when you 
touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He never 
showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never 
got angry.

3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was devastated.  
I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I was 
sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another good 8 weeks 
with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close 
buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as 
I would have liked.

Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed 
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he 
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, 
and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, but 
his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began panting, 
and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so scared 
and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse 
thing i've ever experienced.  

A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just wander 
around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn to 
numbness.

Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks 
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.

Cassandra

Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread MaryChristine

i'm so sorry, cassandra.

i've been following your heartaches, even tho i haven't always responded.
GLOW continues to help heal your hearts. i have no idea why these things
happen as they do--i just said goodbye to a six-year-old negative kitty this
morning, the third of my negatives in less than three months. i have to
believe there is a reason, even if nothing more than their jobs here were
complete, that i had learned all i needed to from them, and that their
incredible energy is needed elsewhere in the universe.

they will never leave me, and i hope that my love will travel with them
wherever they go as well.

MC

On 6/24/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have
had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy
day.  There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband
couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we
already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close
bond with him ever since.

He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of
looked like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came
around though and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers
came to the house.

Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence
when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses,
and never got angry.

3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he
crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me
another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda
and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as
much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.

Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking,
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was
so scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is
absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.

A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually
turn to numbness.

Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It
looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now
over.

Cassandra





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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Hi Cassandra,

I am sorry to hear about your recent loses, losing 3 cats so close together 
must have been very hard on you.

Question, was Tomi's labored breathing  panting due to his felv+ morphing into 
wet FIP?

Susan
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:05 PM
  Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have had 
a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out 
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.

  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.

  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when 
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He never 
showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never 
got angry.

  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was devastated. 
 I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I was 
sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another good 8 weeks 
with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close 
buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as 
I would have liked.

  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed 
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he 
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, 
and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, but 
his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began panting, 
and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so scared 
and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse 
thing i've ever experienced.  

  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.

  Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks 
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.

  Cassandra

Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Cassandra I am so sorry you lost your sweet Tomi.You were a great Mama to 
him.Hugs to you,
  Sherry

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I 
have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was 
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.  
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't 
just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we already had 4 
cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever 
since.
   
  He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or 
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him 
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of looked 
like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though 
and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.
   
  Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when 
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He never 
showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses, and never 
got angry.
   
  3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was devastated. 
 I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I was 
sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me another good 8 weeks 
with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close 
buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as 
I would have liked.
   
  Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed 
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he 
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave him, 
and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.
   
  Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking, but 
his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began panting, 
and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was so scared 
and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse 
thing i've ever experienced.  
   
  A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just 
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn 
to numbness.
   
  Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks 
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.
   
  Cassandra


   
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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread dede hicken
Cassandra, My heart is broken for your losses.  I
can't imagine your grief.   How blessed these special
babies were to have had you to love them.  I wiah I
could say something to help.  You are in my thoughts
and prayers.

Dede



--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just lost my closest friend other than my
 husband.  Tomi and I have had a special bond ever
 since my husband brought him home.  My husband was
 out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004,
 on a cold and rainy day.  There was a kitten crying
 in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't
 just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first,
 since we already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me
 over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever
 since.
 
 He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there
 was a strange noise or person, we often wondered how
 my husband was able to catch him to bring him home. 
 His tail had been broken at the end at one time too,
 it sort of looked like a question mark when it was
 straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though and
 trusted us, though he still always hid when any
 strangers came to the house.
 
 Tomi was the type of loving boy that always
 acknowledged your presence when you touched him or
 talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He
 never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him
 too many hugs/kisses, and never got angry.
 
 3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and
 had FeLV, I was devastated.  I watched him slowly
 decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I
 was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back
 and gave me another good 8 weeks with him.  Except
 during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa
 (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't
 get to spend as much time with my Tomi as I would
 have liked.
 
 Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12,
 Tomi got sick and crashed again with the anemia.  He
 was having a hard time breathing, and again he
 bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite,
 eating everything I gave him, and drank lots of
 water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.
 
 Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave
 him and still drinking, but his breathing was
 becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began
 panting, and I watched him die in a way that will
 haunt me forever.  He was so scared and crying
 because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is
 absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.  
 
 A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.
  I guess i'll just wander around like a zombie for
 awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn to
 numbness.
 
 Thank you all for the support you've given me
 through all of this.  It looks like this ordeal that
 has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.
 
 Cassandra


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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread wendy
Oh Cassandra,

I was so disheartened to read your post.  You have
been through so much.  I'm sorry for you and sorry for
your sweet babies that have lost their battles.  I'm
even sorrier that sweet Tomi died in the way he did. 
It was the same way that Cricket died, and I honestly
hope no other animals ever have to go through that. 
And I hope I never have to stand by and watch while
feeling completely helpless, angry, and lost.

Please take care of yourself Cassandra.  You have an
awful lot of grieving to do.  Feel free to post here
or email me off list if you prefer, if you need
anything or just to vent.  My door is always open to
you, and so is this list.  When I lost Cricket, the
members here helped me through his loss probably more
than they helped me deal with his illness.  It was an
invaluable experience and I will always be grateful to
them for putting up with my whining and talking about
things like after-death visits, guilt and
second-guessing myself, etc. (even though they say I
wasn't whining).  The beautiful thing was I felt I was
being a burden, while they welcomed the opportunity to
help me.

Again, I am really sorry about Tomi, and Kisa, and
Koda.  Prayers for your peace and comfort going out.
:)
Wendy

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Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread elizabeth trent

Cassandra,
I am so very sorry.  I know it hurts so much.  You've been the best mommy to
those babies.  Hold on to those wonderful memoriesand know that we are
always here for you.

much love,
elizabeth


On 6/24/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have
had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was
out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy
day.  There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband
couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we
already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close
bond with him ever since.

He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of
looked like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came
around though and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers
came to the house.

Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence
when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses,
and never got angry.

3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he
crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me
another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda
and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as
much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.

Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.

Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking,
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was
so scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is
absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.

A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually
turn to numbness.

Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It
looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now
over.

Cassandra



RE: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Cassandra --
 
I'm so very sorry.  These have been such painful weeks for you.  Thank you
so much for telling us Tomi's story.  He sounds like a special little dude.
I'm sure he's bragging to his new friends at the Bridge how very special you
and your husband were too, and how much he loved you and was loved.  Make
sure and talk to him sometimes, tell him he can come and visit anytime.
Hugs to you and your husband.
 
Diane R.

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda


I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I have had
a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My husband was out
walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on a cold and rainy day.
There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband
couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't impressed at first, since we
already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me over.  I've had a very close
bond with him ever since.
 
He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange noise or
person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch him to bring him
home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, it sort of
looked like a question mark when it was straight up.  Tomi quickly came
around though and trusted us, though he still always hid when any strangers
came to the house.
 
Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your presence when
you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes.  He
never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him too many hugs/kisses,
and never got angry.
 
3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until he
crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back and gave me
another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time I had to watch Koda
and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't get to spend as
much time with my Tomi as I would have liked.
 
Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and crashed
again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time breathing, and again he
bounced back.  Last week he had a huge appetite, eating everything I gave
him, and drank lots of water.  Yesterday, he started to crash again.
 
Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still drinking,
but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around noon, he began
panting, and I watched him die in a way that will haunt me forever.  He was
so scared and crying because he couldn't catch his breath.  This is
absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced.  
 
A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll just
wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually
turn to numbness.
 
Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.  It looks
like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over.
 
Cassandra


Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda

2007-06-24 Thread Lance

Cassandra,

I saw the title of your post in my inbox, and felt a rush of sadness.  
I'm deeply sorry that Tomi has passed. You and your family will be in  
my prayers.


Lance


On Jun 24, 2007, at 3:05 PM, C  J wrote:

I've just lost my closest friend other than my husband.  Tomi and I  
have had a special bond ever since my husband brought him home.  My  
husband was out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, on  
a cold and rainy day.  There was a kitten crying in the trees, cold  
and wet, and my husband couldn't just leave him there.  I wasn't  
impressed at first, since we already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly  
won me over.  I've had a very close bond with him ever since.


He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there was a strange  
noise or person, we often wondered how my husband was able to catch  
him to bring him home.  His tail had been broken at the end at one  
time too, it sort of looked like a question mark when it was  
straight up.  Tomi quickly came around though and trusted us,  
though he still always hid when any strangers came to the house.


Tomi was the type of loving boy that always acknowledged your  
presence when you touched him or talked to him...or even looked at  
him sometimes.  He never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave  
him too many hugs/kisses, and never got angry.


3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and had FeLV, I was  
devastated.  I watched him slowly decline for nearly 2 months until  
he crashed and I was sure he would die.  Amazingly he bounced back  
and gave me another good 8 weeks with him.  Except during this time  
I had to watch Koda and Kisa (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die,  
so I didn't get to spend as much time with my Tomi as I would have  
liked.


Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, Tomi got sick and  
crashed again with the anemia.  He was having a hard time  
breathing, and again he bounced back.  Last week he had a huge  
appetite, eating everything I gave him, and drank lots of water.   
Yesterday, he started to crash again.


Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave him and still  
drinking, but his breathing was becoming more labored.  Then around  
noon, he began panting, and I watched him die in a way that will  
haunt me forever.  He was so scared and crying because he couldn't  
catch his breath.  This is absolutely the worse thing i've ever  
experienced.


A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone.  I guess i'll  
just wander around like a zombie for awhile, and maybe the pain  
will eventually turn to numbness.


Thank you all for the support you've given me through all of this.   
It looks like this ordeal that has been going on nonstop since  
March 9 is now over.


Cassandra






Re: Tomi is worse off than I thought

2007-06-19 Thread wendy
Hi Cassandra,

I am so surprised that hemobart was a problem for both
Kisa and Tomi.  I did a little research and it said
that the mother can pass the parasite to her kittens. 
How old is Tomi?  Isn't he Kisa's brother?  If this is
the case, they may have had the parasite for a while. 
You may have to opt for a blood transfusion to help
Tomi.  It will give him a fighting chance, especially
since his HCT is 7.7.  That's very low.  Has the vet
mentioned this?  Did they prescribe prednisolone for
him?

I can't remember if Tomi is FeLV+.  Something tells me
he is.  

I'm so sorry you are having to deal with anemia again.
 That's horrible.  Don't let it get you down. 
Hemobart is treatable.  Please keep us posted. 
Prayers going out for Tomi and for you.

:)
Wendy

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Re: Tomi is worse off than I thought

2007-06-19 Thread C J
Kisa and Tomi weren't related.  Kisa was about a month older than him.  They 
were very close though, so one may have passed it on to the other, just like 
one likely passed the FeLV to the other.


I'm giving Tomi dexamethasone, even though the vet didn't presribe it, about 
.5 cc twice a day.  That's about 5mg per day.


I thought about a transfusion, but he's had one already, and he's having 
troubles getting his HCT back to normal range even when the Hemobart is 
gone.  I don't think I should put him through the stress of a transfusion 
because all that would do is buy him some time.  He needs to be able to 
produce those red blood cells on his own.  The vet believes the FeLV is 
suppressing his bone marrow.


He does seem a little better today.  His appetite is better and he's more 
alert.  I don't feel the lumps in his stomach anymore either.  He is 
drinking alot of water though, and peeing 4-5 times per day.   Hopefully he 
doesn't have another problem now on top of the anemia.


Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Tomi is worse off than I thought



Hi Cassandra,

I am so surprised that hemobart was a problem for both
Kisa and Tomi.  I did a little research and it said
that the mother can pass the parasite to her kittens.
How old is Tomi?  Isn't he Kisa's brother?  If this is
the case, they may have had the parasite for a while.
You may have to opt for a blood transfusion to help
Tomi.  It will give him a fighting chance, especially
since his HCT is 7.7.  That's very low.  Has the vet
mentioned this?  Did they prescribe prednisolone for
him?

I can't remember if Tomi is FeLV+.  Something tells me
he is.

I'm so sorry you are having to deal with anemia again.
That's horrible.  Don't let it get you down.
Hemobart is treatable.  Please keep us posted.
Prayers going out for Tomi and for you.

:)
Wendy

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2007-06-17 Thread dede hicken
Cassandra,

Just wanted you to know I was thinking about you and
Tomi.  Hope things are going better for you.  You are
in my thoughts.

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Re: Tomi is worse off than I thought

2007-06-17 Thread C J

  - Original Message - 
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 2:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Tomi is worse off than I thought


  Cassandra,
  I am so very saddened with all you have dealt with your precious babies.
  And, I apologize [sincerely] for not sending you my condolences for your loss 
of Kisa.  But, please know.she was in my prayers, along with all the other 
babies, both w/ illness or passing...  It's just very difficult for me to see 
to read all posts, and sit at PC.Never-the-less, I try to either get on PC, 
or have my room mate read me posts
  And, please, don't blame yourself for spending most of your time/energy w/ 
Kisa  perhaps neglecting your Tomi  I did the same exact thing when I 
[suddenly] lost my Charity.. Blamed myself for missing something because, 
in all truthfulness, my Puma has been my main concern since his diagnosis, 
along w/ his age, 17+. And, I still look back wondering if Charity was 
showing some [any] signs that I over-looked...   I think, maybe, I'm finally 
coming to the point that she wasn't showing symptoms, and she passed, just like 
Black Bart, due to FIP.  Bart was her constant companion while she was still an 
outdoor feral And, when he got very ill, she came to me to her [our] 
boy.But Bart was so ill.many symptoms,  when I did confine him, prior to 
getting him to vet,well, he was eating, drinking - even loving!  But, just like 
Charity, suddenly, he gave up on food, became listlessbut still showed 
loving to me I'm just so relieved I was able to get him to vet in 2 days, 
and, when the exam was done, a likely diagnosis given, the way he looked at me 
w/ those big, beautiful eyes, I KNEW HE WAS THANKING ME, AND ASO LETTING ME 
KNOW. TT'S OK MOM TO ASSIST W/ MY PARTING... So, sadly I did have him PTS 
I'll never forget his eyes, they say so much...  And Charity became such a 
love-muffin, but only w/ me.  She was doing so well, so when she went downhill 
so very fast, I just couldn't believe it!!!  And, of course, I blamed myself 
because I needed some/any explanation I guess because that feral girl stole 
my heat  I gained her trust...
  And you're so right about the list members here - caring, compassionate  so 
very knowlegable  They are always there for one another..
  And as far as other humans, all I am going to say is I prefer my babies, and 
ALL critters way more than people,,,  A lot has to do w/ al I've seen them do 
in all my years of rescue...
  Anyway, your husband sounds magnificent!!
  So, again know, your Tomi is [still] in my prayers.  And I'm so very sorry 
about Kisa's passing.
  Hugs,
  Patti  her gang






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Re: Tomi is worse off than I thought

2007-06-17 Thread C J
Thank you, for your thoughts.  I know you've been going through a really rough 
time as well, and sometimes its hard to respond to other's losses when one is 
feeling one's own losses so keenly.  I know it is difficult for me to offer 
words of support to others when i'm dealing with my own grief.  These furbabies 
mean so much to us, I think the only thing worse that could happen would be if 
I had to go through the same thing with my husband or child.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 2:24 AM
  Subject: Re: Tomi is worse off than I thought


  Cassandra,
  I am so very saddened with all you have dealt with your precious babies.
  And, I apologize [sincerely] for not sending you my condolences for your loss 
of Kisa.  But, please know.she was in my prayers, along with all the other 
babies, both w/ illness or passing...  It's just very difficult for me to see 
to read all posts, and sit at PC.Never-the-less, I try to either get on PC, 
or have my room mate read me posts
  And, please, don't blame yourself for spending most of your time/energy w/ 
Kisa  perhaps neglecting your Tomi  I did the same exact thing when I 
[suddenly] lost my Charity.. Blamed myself for missing something because, 
in all truthfulness, my Puma has been my main concern since his diagnosis, 
along w/ his age, 17+. And, I still look back wondering if Charity was 
showing some [any] signs that I over-looked...   I think, maybe, I'm finally 
coming to the point that she wasn't showing symptoms, and she passed, just like 
Black Bart, due to FIP.  Bart was her constant companion while she was still an 
outdoor feral And, when he got very ill, she came to me to her [our] 
boy.But Bart was so ill.many symptoms,  when I did confine him, prior to 
getting him to vet,well, he was eating, drinking - even loving!  But, just like 
Charity, suddenly, he gave up on food, became listlessbut still showed 
loving to me I'm just so relieved I was able to get him to vet in 2 days, 
and, when the exam was done, a likely diagnosis given, the way he looked at me 
w/ those big, beautiful eyes, I KNEW HE WAS THANKING ME, AND ASO LETTING ME 
KNOW. TT'S OK MOM TO ASSIST W/ MY PARTING... So, sadly I did have him PTS 
I'll never forget his eyes, they say so much...  And Charity became such a 
love-muffin, but only w/ me.  She was doing so well, so when she went downhill 
so very fast, I just couldn't believe it!!!  And, of course, I blamed myself 
because I needed some/any explanation I guess because that feral girl stole 
my heat  I gained her trust...
  And you're so right about the list members here - caring, compassionate  so 
very knowlegable  They are always there for one another..
  And as far as other humans, all I am going to say is I prefer my babies, and 
ALL critters way more than people,,,  A lot has to do w/ al I've seen them do 
in all my years of rescue...
  Anyway, your husband sounds magnificent!!
  So, again know, your Tomi is [still] in my prayers.  And I'm so very sorry 
about Kisa's passing.
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Re: How is Tomi?

2007-06-17 Thread C J
Tomi isn't doing very well.  He's really been going downhill the last few 
days.  Now he is vomiting twice a day, and it is so heartbreaking, as he 
cries out like he is scared before he vomits.  He cried like that a few 
times when he was sick 2 months ago and having trouble catching his breath. 
To hear someone you love cry like that is the worst thing in the world.


He doesn't have much appetite left.  He'll eat a bit of liver, or nibble a 
bit on food.


His belly feels odd to me also.  It feels kind of hard and lumpy here and 
there.  They didn't say anythign about organ troubles when they did the 
blood test, so I don't know what that could mean.


I would say Tomi's time is limited, unless he can pull off a miracle like he 
did last time.  Maybe this time he doesn't want to though...he might want to 
be with his best friend Kisa.


I just don't know what i'll do without my little boy.  He is so loving.  The 
last two cats I have aren't very receptive to receiving attention most of 
the time.  They get grouchy when they're not in the mood.  Tomi has always 
stoically and lovingly put up with all the attention I wish to lavish on 
him.


Cassandra

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:10 AM
Subject: How is Tomi?



Cassandra,

Just wanted you to know I was thinking about you and
Tomi.  Hope things are going better for you.  You are
in my thoughts.

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RE: How is Tomi?

2007-06-17 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I'm so sorry, Cassandra, to hear Tomi isn't feeling good. I know how
heartbreaking it is to watch our little furry loved ones suffer.
Sending positive vibes that your little sweetie will pull through this
too. He sounds such a lovebug. I'm glad that he has such a loving and
caring mom by his side. There's no price you can put on that.
love and hugs to you both, Kerry M.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 10:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: How is Tomi?


Tomi isn't doing very well.  He's really been going downhill the last
few 
days.  Now he is vomiting twice a day, and it is so heartbreaking, as he

cries out like he is scared before he vomits.  He cried like that a few 
times when he was sick 2 months ago and having trouble catching his
breath. 
To hear someone you love cry like that is the worst thing in the world.

He doesn't have much appetite left.  He'll eat a bit of liver, or nibble
a 
bit on food.

His belly feels odd to me also.  It feels kind of hard and lumpy here
and 
there.  They didn't say anythign about organ troubles when they did the 
blood test, so I don't know what that could mean.

I would say Tomi's time is limited, unless he can pull off a miracle
like he 
did last time.  Maybe this time he doesn't want to though...he might
want to 
be with his best friend Kisa.

I just don't know what i'll do without my little boy.  He is so loving.
The 
last two cats I have aren't very receptive to receiving attention most
of 
the time.  They get grouchy when they're not in the mood.  Tomi has
always 
stoically and lovingly put up with all the attention I wish to lavish on

him.

Cassandra

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:10 AM
Subject: How is Tomi?


 Cassandra,

 Just wanted you to know I was thinking about you and
 Tomi.  Hope things are going better for you.  You are
 in my thoughts.

 Dede






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Re: How is Tomi?

2007-06-17 Thread catatonya
Cassandra,
   
  I hope Tomi turns this around.  You have been through so much.
  tonya

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tomi isn't doing very well. He's really been going downhill the last few 
days. Now he is vomiting twice a day, and it is so heartbreaking, as he 
cries out like he is scared before he vomits. He cried like that a few 
times when he was sick 2 months ago and having trouble catching his breath. 
To hear someone you love cry like that is the worst thing in the world.

He doesn't have much appetite left. He'll eat a bit of liver, or nibble a 
bit on food.

His belly feels odd to me also. It feels kind of hard and lumpy here and 
there. They didn't say anythign about organ troubles when they did the 
blood test, so I don't know what that could mean.

I would say Tomi's time is limited, unless he can pull off a miracle like he 
did last time. Maybe this time he doesn't want to though...he might want to 
be with his best friend Kisa.

I just don't know what i'll do without my little boy. He is so loving. The 
last two cats I have aren't very receptive to receiving attention most of 
the time. They get grouchy when they're not in the mood. Tomi has always 
stoically and lovingly put up with all the attention I wish to lavish on 
him.

Cassandra

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:10 AM
Subject: How is Tomi?


 Cassandra,

 Just wanted you to know I was thinking about you and
 Tomi. Hope things are going better for you. You are
 in my thoughts.

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Tomi is worse off than I thought

2007-06-16 Thread C J
I guess I should have been paying closer attention to him while dealing with 
Kisa's illness.  I took him to the vet today to get a complete blood count 
done.  The hemobartonella is back, and his red blood cells are down to 1.35 
(normals are 5-11).  HCT is 7.7.  All his other counts are abnormal too.  High 
white blood count and lymphocytes etc.

They increased the amount of Doxycycline we'll be giving him, moreso than what 
he got last time.  It is 25mg twice a day now, I think it was 40mg once a day 
last time.

I would have expected him to be acting sicker, but maybe he's getting used to 
having such a low number of red blood cells.  He is out of breath if he does 
too much, but so far he is still eating and getting around.

I guess we'll see how it goes.  I'm kind of numb about it all, I can't really 
contemplate Tomi dying right now.  As much as I loved Kisa and Koda, Tomi is 
the one who has always been the closest to my heart.  He's the one who puts up 
with all my hugs and kisses when i'm feeling upset.

Cassandra

Re: To Cassandra; Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-20 Thread C J

Thank you.

Tomi is still doing ok *fingers crossed*.  In fact i've even gotten him to 
eat a raw poultry diet now, instead of only dry food.  I'm following the 
recipe on this site http://www.catnutrition.org/recipes.html.


Hopefully he's thinking that i've finally figured out the proper food to 
give him instead of all that canned junk.


Cassandra



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From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: To Cassandra; Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda



Cassandra,

I'm so happy to hear about Tomi's recovery!  How
wonderful!  I'm equally saddened to hear about your
Koda.  I hope she's able to pull through this like
Tomi did.  Prayers for peace going out for you and
your family.

:)
Wendy

--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well, Tomi seems to be doing much better after his
crash 2 weeks ago.  He is acting alot more like his
normal self, though I think he still is a little
anemic.  I don't understand how his PCV can go so
low, then go back up on its own.  I am hoping all
the prayers helped him and he will continue to
improve.

I'm weaning him off the Prednisone, and though I
can't get him to eat anything other than chicken
liver and dry food, at least he is eating again.
I've tried about 12 different brands of quality
canned foods, plus homemade, and he will only take a
few licks before he runs off licking and scratching
himself.

We seem to be destined for only a small break in
fortune though, as our oldest cat, Koda, is now
dying.  We found Koda about 12 years ago.  She was
emaciated, and her ears, nose, and feet were
frostbitten.  We're not sure how old she was, but we
guess she was at least 2-3 years at the time.

Last summer she was diagnosed with diabetes, which
we've controlled mainly with diet.  Recently, we
noticed she was quite constipated, and took her to
the vet for an enema.  She seemed fine up to that
point, even though she was constipated.  When we
brought her home though, she wouldn't eat (very odd
for her), and was lethargic.

We took her back to the vet, and she ended up
spending 2 days and 2 nights there.  They said her
kidneys and liver were failing.  We brought her home
today, since they couldn't do much more for her.  At
least she will be more comfortable at home.  I don't
think she will last the weekend though.  She's too
weak to move, and feels cold.  She is also crying
some, and I hope she is not in pain :(.

I guess i'm hoping she will somehow pull through
this like Tomi did.  I just wish that my family
could get out of crisis for awhile and return to
normal.

Cassandra



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Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-13 Thread Marylyn
I am very lucky to have a monument company in town (headstones etc) that will 
sandblast names into stones.  There are portable machines (re marking date of 
deaths in pre-need stones).  I can't tell you anything about prices since it 
varies so much from area to area.  It sounds like Koda has a wonderful place 
for her body.  Remember her heart is still with you and will be as long as you 
want it to be.  She is so grateful to have left this world at home instead of 
at the vet's.  She really didn't like that place at all.  Much too cold for 
her.  She sends her love and says she will send you a sign that is ok and 
happy.  She had 12 wonderful years and thanks you for them.






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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda


  Thank you all.

  Well, Koda didn't make it through the night.  We had a heating pad for her 
wrapped in flannel sheets.  I went to bed at midnight last night, and my 
husband sat up with her for awhile.  She passed away at 1am this morning.  He 
said it was really hard to watch her go, but at least he was there for her in 
her last moments.

  We buried her in front of a huge rock that is on our lawn across the yard 
from our picture window.  Her favorite place to sit was on the loveseat in 
front of that window, staring outside, so now she can still see her favorite 
spot.

  Afterwards, we went out collecting rocks from the ditches around our area.  I 
want to make a big rock garden over and around her grave, and plant flowers in 
amongst the rocks...maybe some daisies.

  I just need to figure out a way to write her name on the rock.  She was such 
a gentle soul.  At least she had 12 good years she wouldn't have otherwise 
lived if we hadn't found her.

  Cassandra
- Original Message - 
From: C  J 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:44 PM
Subject: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda


Well, Tomi seems to be doing much better after his crash 2 weeks ago.  He 
is acting alot more like his normal self, though I think he still is a little 
anemic.  I don't understand how his PCV can go so low, then go back up on its 
own.  I am hoping all the prayers helped him and he will continue to improve.

I'm weaning him off the Prednisone, and though I can't get him to eat 
anything other than chicken liver and dry food, at least he is eating again.  
I've tried about 12 different brands of quality canned foods, plus homemade, 
and he will only take a few licks before he runs off licking and scratching 
himself.

We seem to be destined for only a small break in fortune though, as our 
oldest cat, Koda, is now dying.  We found Koda about 12 years ago.  She was 
emaciated, and her ears, nose, and feet were frostbitten.  We're not sure how 
old she was, but we guess she was at least 2-3 years at the time.

Last summer she was diagnosed with diabetes, which we've controlled mainly 
with diet.  Recently, we noticed she was quite constipated, and took her to the 
vet for an enema.  She seemed fine up to that point, even though she was 
constipated.  When we brought her home though, she wouldn't eat (very odd for 
her), and was lethargic.

We took her back to the vet, and she ended up spending 2 days and 2 nights 
there.  They said her kidneys and liver were failing.  We brought her home 
today, since they couldn't do much more for her.  At least she will be more 
comfortable at home.  I don't think she will last the weekend though.  She's 
too weak to move, and feels cold.  She is also crying some, and I hope she is 
not in pain :(.

I guess i'm hoping she will somehow pull through this like Tomi did.  I 
just wish that my family could get out of crisis for awhile and return to 
normal.

Cassandra





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Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-13 Thread elizabeth trent

Cassandra,
I am so very sorry.  It will mean a lot to have her buried there.   My heart
hurts with you.

elizabeth


On 5/12/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Thank you all.

Well, Koda didn't make it through the night.  We had a heating pad for her
wrapped in flannel sheets.  I went to bed at midnight last night, and my
husband sat up with her for awhile.  She passed away at 1am this morning.
He said it was really hard to watch her go, but at least he was there for
her in her last moments.

We buried her in front of a huge rock that is on our lawn across the yard
from our picture window.  Her favorite place to sit was on the loveseat in
front of that window, staring outside, so now she can still see her favorite
spot.

Afterwards, we went out collecting rocks from the ditches around our
area.  I want to make a big rock garden over and around her grave, and plant
flowers in amongst the rocks...maybe some daisies.

I just need to figure out a way to write her name on the rock.  She was
such a gentle soul.  At least she had 12 good years she wouldn't have
otherwise lived if we hadn't found her.

Cassandra

 - Original Message -
*From:* C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2007 10:44 PM
*Subject:* Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda


Well, Tomi seems to be doing much better after his crash 2 weeks ago.  He
is acting alot more like his normal self, though I think he still is a
little anemic.  I don't understand how his PCV can go so low, then go back
up on its own.  I am hoping all the prayers helped him and he will continue
to improve.

I'm weaning him off the Prednisone, and though I can't get him to eat
anything other than chicken liver and dry food, at least he is eating
again.  I've tried about 12 different brands of quality canned foods, plus
homemade, and he will only take a few licks before he runs off licking and
scratching himself.

We seem to be destined for only a small break in fortune though, as our
oldest cat, Koda, is now dying.  We found Koda about 12 years ago.  She was
emaciated, and her ears, nose, and feet were frostbitten.  We're not sure
how old she was, but we guess she was at least 2-3 years at the time.

Last summer she was diagnosed with diabetes, which we've controlled mainly
with diet.  Recently, we noticed she was quite constipated, and took her to
the vet for an enema.  She seemed fine up to that point, even though she was
constipated.  When we brought her home though, she wouldn't eat (very odd
for her), and was lethargic.

We took her back to the vet, and she ended up spending 2 days and 2 nights
there.  They said her kidneys and liver were failing.  We brought her home
today, since they couldn't do much more for her.  At least she will be more
comfortable at home.  I don't think she will last the weekend though.  She's
too weak to move, and feels cold.  She is also crying some, and I hope she
is not in pain :(.

I guess i'm hoping she will somehow pull through this like Tomi did.  I
just wish that my family could get out of crisis for awhile and return to
normal.

Cassandra

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Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-12 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Cassandra,sending good thoughts and prayers to you all.I hope Koda starts to 
feel better and Tomi continues to get well.Hugs
  Sherry

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, Tomi seems to be doing much better after his crash 2 weeks ago. 
 He is acting alot more like his normal self, though I think he still is a 
little anemic.  I don't understand how his PCV can go so low, then go back up 
on its own.  I am hoping all the prayers helped him and he will continue to 
improve.
   
  I'm weaning him off the Prednisone, and though I can't get him to eat 
anything other than chicken liver and dry food, at least he is eating again.  
I've tried about 12 different brands of quality canned foods, plus homemade, 
and he will only take a few licks before he runs off licking and scratching 
himself.
   
  We seem to be destined for only a small break in fortune though, as our 
oldest cat, Koda, is now dying.  We found Koda about 12 years ago.  She was 
emaciated, and her ears, nose, and feet were frostbitten.  We're not sure how 
old she was, but we guess she was at least 2-3 years at the time.
   
  Last summer she was diagnosed with diabetes, which we've controlled mainly 
with diet.  Recently, we noticed she was quite constipated, and took her to the 
vet for an enema.  She seemed fine up to that point, even though she was 
constipated.  When we brought her home though, she wouldn't eat (very odd for 
her), and was lethargic.
   
  We took her back to the vet, and she ended up spending 2 days and 2 nights 
there.  They said her kidneys and liver were failing.  We brought her home 
today, since they couldn't do much more for her.  At least she will be more 
comfortable at home.  I don't think she will last the weekend though.  She's 
too weak to move, and feels cold.  She is also crying some, and I hope she is 
not in pain :(.
   
  I guess i'm hoping she will somehow pull through this like Tomi did.  I just 
wish that my family could get out of crisis for awhile and return to normal.
   
  Cassandra


   
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Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-12 Thread Nina
Me too Cassandra. 
It's so uplifting that Tomi made it through his crash and then so 
disheartening now that Koda is ailing.  I understand completely the 
feeling of 'when will things get back to normal'?  So many of us on the 
list have lived through those times.  It will happen though.  Hold on, 
keep doing the best you can do and know that nothing stays the same.  
It's the ebb and tide balance of life.  Things will be brighter again 
one day soon.  We're here for you,

Nina

Sherry DeHaan wrote:
Cassandra,sending good thoughts and prayers to you all.I hope Koda 
starts to feel better and Tomi continues to get well.Hugs

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Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will be sending peaceful thoughts of comfort and love to Koda this
weekend. Do you have a heated bed, or a heating pad she could lay on, that
might help make her more comfortable. Be sure to cover the heating pad in
several towels or a thick blanket and set it on low, the human designed pads
often get too hot.

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Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-12 Thread C J
Thank you all.

Well, Koda didn't make it through the night.  We had a heating pad for her 
wrapped in flannel sheets.  I went to bed at midnight last night, and my 
husband sat up with her for awhile.  She passed away at 1am this morning.  He 
said it was really hard to watch her go, but at least he was there for her in 
her last moments.

We buried her in front of a huge rock that is on our lawn across the yard from 
our picture window.  Her favorite place to sit was on the loveseat in front of 
that window, staring outside, so now she can still see her favorite spot.

Afterwards, we went out collecting rocks from the ditches around our area.  I 
want to make a big rock garden over and around her grave, and plant flowers in 
amongst the rocks...maybe some daisies.

I just need to figure out a way to write her name on the rock.  She was such a 
gentle soul.  At least she had 12 good years she wouldn't have otherwise lived 
if we hadn't found her.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:44 PM
  Subject: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda


  Well, Tomi seems to be doing much better after his crash 2 weeks ago.  He is 
acting alot more like his normal self, though I think he still is a little 
anemic.  I don't understand how his PCV can go so low, then go back up on its 
own.  I am hoping all the prayers helped him and he will continue to improve.

  I'm weaning him off the Prednisone, and though I can't get him to eat 
anything other than chicken liver and dry food, at least he is eating again.  
I've tried about 12 different brands of quality canned foods, plus homemade, 
and he will only take a few licks before he runs off licking and scratching 
himself.

  We seem to be destined for only a small break in fortune though, as our 
oldest cat, Koda, is now dying.  We found Koda about 12 years ago.  She was 
emaciated, and her ears, nose, and feet were frostbitten.  We're not sure how 
old she was, but we guess she was at least 2-3 years at the time.

  Last summer she was diagnosed with diabetes, which we've controlled mainly 
with diet.  Recently, we noticed she was quite constipated, and took her to the 
vet for an enema.  She seemed fine up to that point, even though she was 
constipated.  When we brought her home though, she wouldn't eat (very odd for 
her), and was lethargic.

  We took her back to the vet, and she ended up spending 2 days and 2 nights 
there.  They said her kidneys and liver were failing.  We brought her home 
today, since they couldn't do much more for her.  At least she will be more 
comfortable at home.  I don't think she will last the weekend though.  She's 
too weak to move, and feels cold.  She is also crying some, and I hope she is 
not in pain :(.

  I guess i'm hoping she will somehow pull through this like Tomi did.  I just 
wish that my family could get out of crisis for awhile and return to normal.

  Cassandra


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Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-11 Thread C J
Well, Tomi seems to be doing much better after his crash 2 weeks ago.  He is 
acting alot more like his normal self, though I think he still is a little 
anemic.  I don't understand how his PCV can go so low, then go back up on its 
own.  I am hoping all the prayers helped him and he will continue to improve.

I'm weaning him off the Prednisone, and though I can't get him to eat anything 
other than chicken liver and dry food, at least he is eating again.  I've tried 
about 12 different brands of quality canned foods, plus homemade, and he will 
only take a few licks before he runs off licking and scratching himself.

We seem to be destined for only a small break in fortune though, as our oldest 
cat, Koda, is now dying.  We found Koda about 12 years ago.  She was emaciated, 
and her ears, nose, and feet were frostbitten.  We're not sure how old she was, 
but we guess she was at least 2-3 years at the time.

Last summer she was diagnosed with diabetes, which we've controlled mainly with 
diet.  Recently, we noticed she was quite constipated, and took her to the vet 
for an enema.  She seemed fine up to that point, even though she was 
constipated.  When we brought her home though, she wouldn't eat (very odd for 
her), and was lethargic.

We took her back to the vet, and she ended up spending 2 days and 2 nights 
there.  They said her kidneys and liver were failing.  We brought her home 
today, since they couldn't do much more for her.  At least she will be more 
comfortable at home.  I don't think she will last the weekend though.  She's 
too weak to move, and feels cold.  She is also crying some, and I hope she is 
not in pain :(.

I guess i'm hoping she will somehow pull through this like Tomi did.  I just 
wish that my family could get out of crisis for awhile and return to normal.

Cassandra

Re: Update on Tomi, and my older kitty, Koda

2007-05-11 Thread Kelley Saveika

Cassandra.

I am so sorry for your impending loss.  Peace and love to you and Koda.


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Re: A little thing I made for Tomi

2007-04-30 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey

That's really lovely!  I can't even find my photographs on my computer!





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On Apr 29, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Kelly L wrote:


At 06:41 PM 4/29/2007, you wrote:


That is beautiful Simple beautiful!!!
Kelly



I am not terribly artistic, but I finding spending some doing  
something like this a bit therapeutic.


Tomi and Kisa (his best friend and fellow FeLV+).  http:// 
img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg


I might get a print made eventually, to remind me of him.

Cassandra


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Re: A little thing I made for Tomi

2007-04-30 Thread linda gata
It brought tears
I happen to have a big black boy who is felv- but likes to place his paw around 
my oreo who is felv+. 
Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  That's really lovely!  I 
can't even find my photographs on my computer!  

  

  

  

  
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On Apr 29, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Kelly L wrote:

  At 06:41 PM 4/29/2007, you wrote:


That is beautiful Simple beautiful!!!
Kelly



  I am not terribly artistic, but I finding spending some doing something like 
this a bit therapeutic.
 
Tomi and Kisa (his best friend and fellow FeLV+).  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg
 
I might get a print made eventually, to remind me of him.
 
Cassandra


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Re: A little thing I made for Tomi

2007-04-30 Thread TatorBunz
 
 
That is so beautiful...I love the Angel touching the  kitties!
I wish I could be like that I have no artistic  skills.
 
In a message dated 4/29/2007 6:41:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am not terribly artistic, but I finding spending some  doing something like 
this a bit therapeutic.
 
Tomi and Kisa (his best friend and fellow FeLV+).  
_http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg_ 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg) 
 
I might get a print made eventually, to remind me of  him.
 
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Re: A little thing I made for Tomi

2007-04-30 Thread Kelley Saveika

That is so beautiful...

On 4/29/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am not terribly artistic, but I finding spending some doing something like
this a bit therapeutic.

Tomi and Kisa (his best friend and fellow FeLV+).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg

I might get a print made eventually, to remind me of him.

Cassandra



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Re: Tomi

2007-04-30 Thread C J

Just a small update on Tomi.

I didn't take time off work today, because strangely enough, Tomi is alot 
better today.


He's using the litter box again, and getting around much better.  He has 
quite a large appetite today after eating very little the last week or so.


Tomi even looks much more alert and responsive, watching me with big eyes. 
The last few days, he was just staring into empty space with half-lidded 
eyes.


Considering I was positive i'd be burying my little boy this weekend, this 
is quite a welcome change.


I'm really scared to get my hopes up, that this could just be the calm 
before the storm, but its so hard not to hope.


Cassandra


- Original Message - 
From: C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Tomi



Thank you.  I think this weekend has been the hardest of my life.

Oddly enough, Tomi was a little better today.  I didn't expect him to make 
it through the night last night, but today, he actually walked out of the 
bedroom on his own.


I don't believe he's actually better, though.  He still isn't able to go 
to the bathroom on his own, and is so weak.  He is drinking alot of water 
too. I don't really know if that is good or bad.


I guess I  will see what tomorrow brings.  Sadly I have to go to work, but 
i'll likely take the afternoon off, or call in sick, depending how he is 
in the morning.


Cassandra


- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:04 PM
Subject: Tomi



Hi Cassandra,

I am so sorry that Tomi is so ill.  It does sound like
his quality of life is declining quickly.  It's a
heartbreaking and confusing roller coaster to see our
beloved furbabies enjoying life one day and the next,
obviously in pain or stressed.  If Tomi is going to
pass, I hope that he does it quickly and peacefully.
Bless you for taking such wonderful care of him.

Take care,
:)
Wendy

--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions
for Tomi.

He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching
the birds outside the window for awhile and purring
as I petted him.  He was even interested in eating
some food.

Today was not such a good day.  He seemed ok first
thing this morning, but when I gave him a bit of
food, he promptly vomited up.  He was then a little
out of breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because
I believe he was scared as he was trying to catch
his breath.  He also peed himself for the first time
ever :(

After that, he had no energy to move all day.  He
basically stayed in my bedroom the whole day,  lying
under the sink.  I gave him some towels to lie on,
and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get
up.

My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need
to euthanize him, i'll have to call around and see
if anyone will do a house call.  I don't think he
can handle a car ride at all now.

Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in
tears every time, but I think he's at the point now
that he is getting no pleasure out of life.  I think
he is waiting to die :(

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon


  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would
somehow pull through this, and last week he did seem
to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

  But now, the last few days, he's been going
downhill fast.

  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few
feet, and breathing fast.  I'm still able to coax
him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up
the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up
normally.

  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that
he's not going to get better.

  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing
thing, but I honestly don't know how I could do that
to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing
to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet
visit), seems too hard for me to handle.  I don't
think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To
me it feels like I would be personally ending his
life.

  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not
sure at all how much longer he will last when he is
having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated
due to anemia.

  I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two
months ago I was positive he would one day become a
chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I
would never have dreamed I would lose him after only
2 and a half years.

  Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to
him than ever as I've been trying to nurse him back
to health.He's always been so loving and
tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to
feel so empty when he is gone.


  Cassandra






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Re: Tomi

2007-04-30 Thread Kelly L

At 07:12 PM 4/30/2007, you wrote:



Thank you for the wonderful newsWe are with you both
Kelly



Just a small update on Tomi.

I didn't take time off work today, because strangely enough, Tomi is 
alot better today.


He's using the litter box again, and getting around much better.  He 
has quite a large appetite today after eating very little the last week or so.


Tomi even looks much more alert and responsive, watching me with big 
eyes. The last few days, he was just staring into empty space with 
half-lidded eyes.


Considering I was positive i'd be burying my little boy this 
weekend, this is quite a welcome change.


I'm really scared to get my hopes up, that this could just be the 
calm before the storm, but its so hard not to hope.


Cassandra


- Original Message - From: C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Tomi



Thank you.  I think this weekend has been the hardest of my life.

Oddly enough, Tomi was a little better today.  I didn't expect him 
to make it through the night last night, but today, he actually 
walked out of the bedroom on his own.


I don't believe he's actually better, though.  He still isn't able 
to go to the bathroom on his own, and is so weak.  He is drinking 
alot of water too. I don't really know if that is good or bad.


I guess I  will see what tomorrow brings.  Sadly I have to go to 
work, but i'll likely take the afternoon off, or call in sick, 
depending how he is in the morning.


Cassandra


- Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:04 PM
Subject: Tomi



Hi Cassandra,

I am so sorry that Tomi is so ill.  It does sound like
his quality of life is declining quickly.  It's a
heartbreaking and confusing roller coaster to see our
beloved furbabies enjoying life one day and the next,
obviously in pain or stressed.  If Tomi is going to
pass, I hope that he does it quickly and peacefully.
Bless you for taking such wonderful care of him.

Take care,
:)
Wendy

--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions
for Tomi.

He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching
the birds outside the window for awhile and purring
as I petted him.  He was even interested in eating
some food.

Today was not such a good day.  He seemed ok first
thing this morning, but when I gave him a bit of
food, he promptly vomited up.  He was then a little
out of breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because
I believe he was scared as he was trying to catch
his breath.  He also peed himself for the first time
ever :(

After that, he had no energy to move all day.  He
basically stayed in my bedroom the whole day,  lying
under the sink.  I gave him some towels to lie on,
and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get
up.

My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need
to euthanize him, i'll have to call around and see
if anyone will do a house call.  I don't think he
can handle a car ride at all now.

Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in
tears every time, but I think he's at the point now
that he is getting no pleasure out of life.  I think
he is waiting to die :(

Cassandra
  - Original Message -   From: C  J
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon


  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would
somehow pull through this, and last week he did seem
to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

  But now, the last few days, he's been going
downhill fast.

  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few
feet, and breathing fast.  I'm still able to coax
him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up
the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up
normally.

  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that
he's not going to get better.

  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing
thing, but I honestly don't know how I could do that
to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing
to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet
visit), seems too hard for me to handle.  I don't
think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To
me it feels like I would be personally ending his
life.

  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not
sure at all how much longer he will last when he is
having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated
due to anemia.

  I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two
months ago I was positive he would one day become a
chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I
would never have dreamed I would lose him after only
2 and a half years.

  Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to
him than ever as I've been trying to nurse him back
to health.He's always been so loving and
tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to
feel so empty when he is gone.


  Cassandra

Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-29 Thread Gina WN
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
   
  Gina
  

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions for Tomi.
   
  He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching the birds outside the 
window for awhile and purring as I petted him.  He was even interested in 
eating some food.
   
  Today was not such a good day.  He seemed ok first thing this morning, but 
when I gave him a bit of food, he promptly vomited up.  He was then a little 
out of breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because I believe he was scared as 
he was trying to catch his breath.  He also peed himself for the first time 
ever :(
   
  After that, he had no energy to move all day.  He basically stayed in my 
bedroom the whole day,  lying under the sink.  I gave him some towels to lie 
on, and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get up.
   
  My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need to euthanize him, i'll 
have to call around and see if anyone will do a house call.  I don't think he 
can handle a car ride at all now.
   
  Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in tears every time, but I 
think he's at the point now that he is getting no pleasure out of life.  I 
think he is waiting to die :( 
   
  Cassandra
- Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon
  

  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this, and 
last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.
   
  But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.
   
  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.  I'm 
still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up the last 
bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.
   
  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get better.
   
  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't 
know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing to 
him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for me to 
handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To me it feels 
like I would be personally ending his life.
   
  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer he 
will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated due to 
anemia.
   
  I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was positive 
he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I 
would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half years.
   
  Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've been 
trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so loving and tolerant 
of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so empty when he is gone.
   
   
  Cassandra
   
   

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Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-29 Thread elizabeth trent

Cassandra,
Love to you and to Tomi.  My heart hurts with you.

elizabeth


On 4/28/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions for Tomi.

He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching the birds outside the
window for awhile and purring as I petted him.  He was even interested in
eating some food.

Today was not such a good day.  He seemed ok first thing this morning, but
when I gave him a bit of food, he promptly vomited up.  He was then a little
out of breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because I believe he was scared
as he was trying to catch his breath.  He also peed himself for the first
time ever :(

After that, he had no energy to move all day.  He basically stayed in my
bedroom the whole day,  lying under the sink.  I gave him some towels to lie
on, and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get up.

My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need to euthanize him, i'll
have to call around and see if anyone will do a house call.  I don't think
he can handle a car ride at all now.

Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in tears every time, but I
think he's at the point now that he is getting no pleasure out of life.  I
think he is waiting to die :(

Cassandra

- Original Message -
*From:* C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
*Subject:* I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon


 I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this,
and last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.
I'm still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up
the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.

I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get
better.

I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't
know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing
to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for
me to handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To me
it feels like I would be personally ending his life.

I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer
he will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated
due to anemia.

I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was
positive he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the
sun.  I would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half
years.

Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've
been trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so loving and
tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so empty when he is
gone.


Cassandra



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Tomi

2007-04-29 Thread wendy
Hi Cassandra,

I am so sorry that Tomi is so ill.  It does sound like
his quality of life is declining quickly.  It's a
heartbreaking and confusing roller coaster to see our
beloved furbabies enjoying life one day and the next,
obviously in pain or stressed.  If Tomi is going to
pass, I hope that he does it quickly and peacefully. 
Bless you for taking such wonderful care of him.

Take care,
:)
Wendy

--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions
 for Tomi.
 
 He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching
 the birds outside the window for awhile and purring
 as I petted him.  He was even interested in eating
 some food.
 
 Today was not such a good day.  He seemed ok first
 thing this morning, but when I gave him a bit of
 food, he promptly vomited up.  He was then a little
 out of breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because
 I believe he was scared as he was trying to catch
 his breath.  He also peed himself for the first time
 ever :(
 
 After that, he had no energy to move all day.  He
 basically stayed in my bedroom the whole day,  lying
 under the sink.  I gave him some towels to lie on,
 and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get
 up.
 
 My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need
 to euthanize him, i'll have to call around and see
 if anyone will do a house call.  I don't think he
 can handle a car ride at all now.
 
 Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in
 tears every time, but I think he's at the point now
 that he is getting no pleasure out of life.  I think
 he is waiting to die :( 
 
 Cassandra
   - Original Message - 
   From: C  J 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
   Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon
 
 
   I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would
 somehow pull through this, and last week he did seem
 to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.
 
   But now, the last few days, he's been going
 downhill fast.
 
   Today, he is out of breath just walking a few
 feet, and breathing fast.  I'm still able to coax
 him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up
 the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up
 normally.
 
   I guess I have to finally accept the fact that
 he's not going to get better.
 
   I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing
 thing, but I honestly don't know how I could do that
 to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing
 to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet
 visit), seems too hard for me to handle.  I don't
 think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To
 me it feels like I would be personally ending his
 life.
 
   I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not
 sure at all how much longer he will last when he is
 having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated
 due to anemia.
 
   I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two
 months ago I was positive he would one day become a
 chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I
 would never have dreamed I would lose him after only
 2 and a half years.
 
   Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to
 him than ever as I've been trying to nurse him back
 to health.He's always been so loving and
 tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to
 feel so empty when he is gone.
 
 
   Cassandra
 
 
 
 

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Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-29 Thread catatonya
Cassandra,
   
  You and Tomi are in my thoughts and prayers.
  tonya

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Oh Cassandra,

I am so sorry.

Kelley

On 4/29/07, elizabeth trent wrote:
 Cassandra,
 Love to you and to Tomi. My heart hurts with you.

 elizabeth


 On 4/28/07, C  J wrote:
 
 
  Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions for Tomi.
 
  He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching the birds outside the
 window for awhile and purring as I petted him. He was even interested in
 eating some food.
 
  Today was not such a good day. He seemed ok first thing this morning, but
 when I gave him a bit of food, he promptly vomited up. He was then a little
 out of breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because I believe he was scared
 as he was trying to catch his breath. He also peed himself for the first
 time ever :(
 
  After that, he had no energy to move all day. He basically stayed in my
 bedroom the whole day, lying under the sink. I gave him some towels to lie
 on, and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get up.
 
  My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need to euthanize him, i'll
 have to call around and see if anyone will do a house call. I don't think
 he can handle a car ride at all now.
 
  Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in tears every time, but I
 think he's at the point now that he is getting no pleasure out of life. I
 think he is waiting to die :(
 
  Cassandra
 
  - Original Message -
  From: C  J
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon
 
 
 
  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this,
 and last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.
 
  But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.
 
  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.
 I'm still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up
 the last bit of food I gave him. He never throws up normally.
 
  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get
 better.
 
  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't
 know how I could do that to him. To spend the last hours of his life doing
 to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for
 me to handle. I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision. To me
 it feels like I would be personally ending his life.
 
  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer
 he will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated
 due to anemia.
 
  I still can't believe all this has happened. Two months ago I was
 positive he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the
 sun. I would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half
 years.
 
  Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've
 been trying to nurse him back to health. He's always been so loving and
 tolerant of my hugs and kisses. Life is going to feel so empty when he is
 gone.
 
 
  Cassandra
 
 
 
  

 
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Re: Tomi

2007-04-29 Thread C J

Thank you.  I think this weekend has been the hardest of my life.

Oddly enough, Tomi was a little better today.  I didn't expect him to make 
it through the night last night, but today, he actually walked out of the 
bedroom on his own.


I don't believe he's actually better, though.  He still isn't able to go to 
the bathroom on his own, and is so weak.  He is drinking alot of water too. 
I don't really know if that is good or bad.


I guess I  will see what tomorrow brings.  Sadly I have to go to work, but 
i'll likely take the afternoon off, or call in sick, depending how he is in 
the morning.


Cassandra


- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:04 PM
Subject: Tomi



Hi Cassandra,

I am so sorry that Tomi is so ill.  It does sound like
his quality of life is declining quickly.  It's a
heartbreaking and confusing roller coaster to see our
beloved furbabies enjoying life one day and the next,
obviously in pain or stressed.  If Tomi is going to
pass, I hope that he does it quickly and peacefully.
Bless you for taking such wonderful care of him.

Take care,
:)
Wendy

--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions
for Tomi.

He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching
the birds outside the window for awhile and purring
as I petted him.  He was even interested in eating
some food.

Today was not such a good day.  He seemed ok first
thing this morning, but when I gave him a bit of
food, he promptly vomited up.  He was then a little
out of breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because
I believe he was scared as he was trying to catch
his breath.  He also peed himself for the first time
ever :(

After that, he had no energy to move all day.  He
basically stayed in my bedroom the whole day,  lying
under the sink.  I gave him some towels to lie on,
and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get
up.

My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need
to euthanize him, i'll have to call around and see
if anyone will do a house call.  I don't think he
can handle a car ride at all now.

Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in
tears every time, but I think he's at the point now
that he is getting no pleasure out of life.  I think
he is waiting to die :(

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon


  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would
somehow pull through this, and last week he did seem
to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

  But now, the last few days, he's been going
downhill fast.

  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few
feet, and breathing fast.  I'm still able to coax
him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up
the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up
normally.

  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that
he's not going to get better.

  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing
thing, but I honestly don't know how I could do that
to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing
to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet
visit), seems too hard for me to handle.  I don't
think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To
me it feels like I would be personally ending his
life.

  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not
sure at all how much longer he will last when he is
having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated
due to anemia.

  I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two
months ago I was positive he would one day become a
chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I
would never have dreamed I would lose him after only
2 and a half years.

  Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to
him than ever as I've been trying to nurse him back
to health.He's always been so loving and
tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to
feel so empty when he is gone.


  Cassandra






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A little thing I made for Tomi

2007-04-29 Thread C J
I am not terribly artistic, but I finding spending some doing something like 
this a bit therapeutic.

Tomi and Kisa (his best friend and fellow FeLV+).  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg

I might get a print made eventually, to remind me of him.

Cassandra

Re: A little thing I made for Tomi

2007-04-29 Thread Kelly L

At 06:41 PM 4/29/2007, you wrote:


That is beautiful Simple beautiful!!!
Kelly



I am not terribly artistic, but I finding spending some doing 
something like this a bit therapeutic.


Tomi and Kisa (his best friend and fellow 
FeLV+). 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg


I might get a print made eventually, to remind me of him.

Cassandra


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Re: A little thing I made for Tomi

2007-04-29 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Oh my god Cassandra that is beautiful.Made me cry!!

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am not terribly artistic, but I 
finding spending some doing something like this a bit therapeutic.
   
  Tomi and Kisa (his best friend and fellow FeLV+).  
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg
   
  I might get a print made eventually, to remind me of him.
   
  Cassandra


   
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Re: A little thing I made for Tomi

2007-04-29 Thread Lance
I think the art is quite nice, but the best part, and the part that  
really got to me, is the picture of the best friends. I pray that  
Tomi will rebound. I'm with you about taking time off for an unwell  
cat. I've stayed home with Ember a few times, and if she ever needs  
me, I'll do it again. Even though my job isn't terribly far from  
home, it feels like it when I'm there and she's here.


Prayers for Tomi.

Lance


On Apr 29, 2007, at 8:41 PM, C  J wrote:

I am not terribly artistic, but I finding spending some doing  
something like this a bit therapeutic.


Tomi and Kisa (his best friend and fellow FeLV+). http:// 
img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/FirstSpacetrip5.jpg


I might get a print made eventually, to remind me of him.

Cassandra





Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-28 Thread C J
Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions for Tomi.

He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching the birds outside the 
window for awhile and purring as I petted him.  He was even interested in 
eating some food.

Today was not such a good day.  He seemed ok first thing this morning, but when 
I gave him a bit of food, he promptly vomited up.  He was then a little out of 
breath from vomiting, and cried a bit because I believe he was scared as he was 
trying to catch his breath.  He also peed himself for the first time ever :(

After that, he had no energy to move all day.  He basically stayed in my 
bedroom the whole day,  lying under the sink.  I gave him some towels to lie 
on, and he peed again tonight on those, too weak to get up.

My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need to euthanize him, i'll have 
to call around and see if anyone will do a house call.  I don't think he can 
handle a car ride at all now.

Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in tears every time, but I 
think he's at the point now that he is getting no pleasure out of life.  I 
think he is waiting to die :( 

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon


  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this, and 
last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

  But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.  I'm 
still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up the last 
bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.

  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get better.

  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't 
know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing to 
him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for me to 
handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To me it feels 
like I would be personally ending his life.

  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer he 
will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated due to 
anemia.

  I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was positive 
he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I 
would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half years.

  Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've been 
trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so loving and tolerant 
of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so empty when he is gone.


  Cassandra




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Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-28 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey

Cassandra~~Bless Tomi and bless you.

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Apr 28, 2007, at 9:57 PM, C  J wrote:


Thank you all for your kind thoughts and suggestions for Tomi.

He had a pretty good day yesterday, he was watching the birds  
outside the window for awhile and purring as I petted him.  He was  
even interested in eating some food.


Today was not such a good day.  He seemed ok first thing this  
morning, but when I gave him a bit of food, he promptly vomited  
up.  He was then a little out of breath from vomiting, and cried a  
bit because I believe he was scared as he was trying to catch his  
breath.  He also peed himself for the first time ever :(


After that, he had no energy to move all day.  He basically stayed  
in my bedroom the whole day,  lying under the sink.  I gave him  
some towels to lie on, and he peed again tonight on those, too weak  
to get up.


My vet clinic doesn't do house calls, so if I need to euthanize  
him, i'll have to call around and see if anyone will do a house  
call.  I don't think he can handle a car ride at all now.


Even the thought of putting him to sleep has me in tears every  
time, but I think he's at the point now that he is getting no  
pleasure out of life.  I think he is waiting to die :(


Cassandra
- Original Message -
From: C  J
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through  
this, and last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2  
prednisone per day.


But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing  
fast.  I'm still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he  
just threw up the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up  
normally.


I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to  
get better.


I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I  
honestly don't know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last  
hours of his life doing to him what he hates the most (car ride and  
vet visit), seems too hard for me to handle.  I don't think i'm  
strong enough to make that decision.  To me it feels like I would  
be personally ending his life.


I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much  
longer he will last when he is having difficulty getting enough  
oxygen circulated due to anemia.


I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was  
positive he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat,  
lounging in the sun.  I would never have dreamed I would lose him  
after only 2 and a half years.


Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as  
I've been trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been  
so loving and tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to  
feel so empty when he is gone.



Cassandra




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I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread C J
I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this, and 
last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.  I'm 
still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up the last 
bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.

I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get better.

I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't know 
how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing to him 
what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for me to 
handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To me it feels 
like I would be personally ending his life.

I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer he 
will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated due to 
anemia.

I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was positive he 
would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I would 
never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half years.

Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've been 
trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so loving and tolerant 
of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so empty when he is gone.


Cassandra



Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread Kelly L

At 02:18 PM 4/25/2007, you wrote:


there are many wonderful vets that will come to your home to help 
them cross, Make sure you find one that will pre sedate,I takes about 
10 minutes longer but makes all the difference, I have been there 
twice recently,
the first time big d did not have an IV so the vet gave hime a small 
sedating injestion sub q that he did not even feel, He very 
peacefully just dozed of safely in my arms, and then the vet 
administered the rest and he just looked so peaceful and comfortable,
The last time last month my kitty was having resp problems, and that 
is so ver very hard to watch, Two steps and he was out of breath, He 
had a pulmonary embolism, He was at the emergency vets and so he had 
an IV, the kind vet administered a tranquilizer and he becane very 
comfortable, She wrapped him in a blanket and brought him to me... I 
cried and said my last good byes and petted him and held him close 
while the vet just used the iv to that last medication,, and he too 
just gently crossed over,

It was of course harder on me and still is.
all my very good thoughts for you ,,,this si so very very hard, I 
know. I am so very very sorry,

Kelly L


I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through 
this, and last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.


But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing 
fast.  I'm still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he 
just threw up the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.


I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get better.

I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly 
don't know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of 
his life doing to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet 
visit), seems too hard for me to handle.  I don't think i'm strong 
enough to make that decision.  To me it feels like I would be 
personally ending his life.


I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much 
longer he will last when he is having difficulty getting enough 
oxygen circulated due to anemia.


I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was 
positive he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, 
lounging in the sun.  I would never have dreamed I would lose him 
after only 2 and a half years.


Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as 
I've been trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so 
loving and tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so 
empty when he is gone.



Cassandra




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RE: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread Melissa Lind
My thoughts and prayers are with you Cassandra. I agree that making him
endure a horrifying car ride and having to go to the vet's office with the
scary smells, sights, sounds, would not be fair. I would contact your vet
and see if he/she would visit. It would be very compassionate of you to let
Tomi go in your arms where he is loved and where he only knows safety and
happiness. Whatever you decide, you'll know that you were a wonderful person
to Tomi! Hugs, Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

 

I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this, and
last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

 

But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

 

Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.  I'm
still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up the
last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.

 

I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get better.

 

I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't
know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing
to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for
me to handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To me
it feels like I would be personally ending his life.

 

I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer
he will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated
due to anemia.

 

I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was positive
he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I
would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half years.

 

Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've been
trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so loving and
tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so empty when he is
gone.

 

 

Cassandra

 

 



Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread Marissa Johnson
Oh Cassandra!  I know EXACTLY how you're feeling!!  I had my Slinky for 
only 8 months and we grew even closer than we already had during the weeks I 
was nursing him and praying he'd recover.  
   
  I agree with Melissa.  If he's uncomfortable and not having a good quality of 
life, you may want to consider euthanizing him.  He will tell you when it's 
time...you'll notice that his eyes are empty, that he's getting no enjoyment 
out of life, that he's not himself.  If you are able to quiet your thoughts 
with all the emotions and fears clamoring for your attention, you'll be able to 
hear him tell you what he wants.
   
  With Slinky, I had hoped and prayed that he would go on his own...that way it 
wouldn't feel like a decision I made.  But I could really tell...somehow I just 
knew...when he was ready to go.  After the appointment (much later when I was 
able to process some of it), I realized that I think he needed me to make that 
decision for him.  While I had told him that I would do whatever he wanted me 
to do and that it was okay for him to go, I did so through tears (I wasn't 
strong enough to stop them).  And I think he knew better...I really honestly 
believe that he was fighting for ME...that he wanted to be there to take care 
of me because he knew I needed him.  I think that if I hadn't helped him to go, 
he would have held on to the bitter end and it would have been the most painful 
awful existance he could've had.  I think by making the decision to end his 
fight, I was sending him the message loud and clear that it was okay for him to 
go.
   
  Every time we went to the vet in those last few days/weeks (and going to the 
vet was never terribly traumatic for Slink, so it didn't bother me...but I know 
it can be horrible for other cats), I told him we were going to see Dr. 
Garrison and see if she could make him feel better.  When we went to that last 
appointment, I had dreaded that moment, and trying to figure out what I was 
going to tell him.  But the words came...and I told him that we were going to 
see Dr. Garrison so she could help him go to the bridge, so she coud help him 
leave his sick and tired body...and that I was giving him the only gift I had 
left to give: a peaceful bridge crossing.
   
  I picked up his ashes today when I took my new baby to the vet...so all this 
is a bit raw at the moment.  But it just means I understand completely how 
you're feeling.  If it's terribly traumatic for Tomi to go to the vet, as 
Melissa said, many vets will come to your house for pts...for that very reason. 
 If your vet won't do that, there are house-call vets that you could call.  Of 
course the final decision is yours (and Tomi's).  I remember someone on here 
saying they waited 'till their baby went on his own and by the end they were 
begging God to take him because he was suffering so much.  I'd hate to see you 
or Tomi go through that.  
   
  Their little spirits love us so much that they'll endure almost anything to 
stay with us.  It's our job to steward that love and trust and make the best 
decisions we can with the information we have at the moment.  If that 
information changes later, that doesn't necessarily mean the decision was wrong 
(thanks for that pearl of wisdom, MC!).  Only you can know what the best 
decision is in this situation.  Just love him as much as you can and try to 
listen (and be willing to hear) to what he wants you to do.
   
  ((Cassandra  This is some of the worst pain you can go 
through...hang in there and keep us updated.  We're all here for you!!  Hugs to 
you and head bonks to Tomi.
   
  Marissa, Mouse, and Angel Slinky =^..^=

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through 
this, and last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.
   
  But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.
   
  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.  I'm 
still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up the last 
bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.
   
  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get better.
   
  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't 
know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing to 
him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for me to 
handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To me it feels 
like I would be personally ending his life.
   
  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer he 
will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated due to 
anemia.
   
  I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was positive 
he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I 
would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half

Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread Nina

Cassandra,
I don't know if this would be appropriate, but my Spencer benefited from 
daily Dexamethasone shots I gave him subq.  He was failing fast and the 
dex made him feel so much better and gave him another month of quality 
living.  He did so much better with the steroid shots that I even began 
to hope once again that he would recover.  Unfortunately, it wasn't to 
be.  I will always be grateful for my time with him and esp for that 
last extra month.  When it was clear that his time was at an end, when 
it was apparent to me that he was ready to go on, I had a house call vet 
come to the house to help him on his way.  You might want to ask your 
vet if he thinks steroid shots would help Tomi, and if he could 
recommend a house call vet.

Blessings to you both,
Nina

C  J wrote:
I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through 
this, and last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone 
per day.
 
But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.
 
Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing 
fast.  I'm still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he 
just threw up the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up 
normally.
 
I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get 
better.
 
I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly 
don't know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his 
life doing to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), 
seems too hard for me to handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to 
make that decision.  To me it feels like I would be personally ending 
his life.
 
I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much 
longer he will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen 
circulated due to anemia.
 
I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was 
positive he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging 
in the sun.  I would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 
and a half years.
 
Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as 
I've been trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so 
loving and tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so 
empty when he is gone.
 
 
Cassandra
 
 





Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread Marylyn
The Royal Princess Kitty Katt hated cars and vets too.  So much so that a vet 2 
1/2 hours from me agreed to drive down if I needed him and help her leave this 
world at home.  She did not.  She chose to leave on her own.  Letting her do 
this her way was one of the hardest things I have ever done.  But it can be 
done.  Make very sure this is what Tomi wants to do.  Talk to him with your 
heart or have an AC do it if you are unsure of your ability..I was.  I 
think 7 ACs talked to Kitty and a couple stayed in very close contact with 
herthat really aggravated her.  Kitty had cancer throughout her body 
and her lungs were so bad that the vet wondered how she managed to walk to the 
litter box, much less chase Dixie Louise from her room.  

All of this is to say PLEASE listen to your heart and let Tomi leave this world 
on his terms unless he is in such pain that you just can't (I've made this 
decision too for several critters).  And don't expect to sleep well while you 
are going thru this.  But, at least for me, I sleep well knowing that I did 
what Kitty wanted and I really don't believe she was in much pain.  I do know 
that I arranged for the person she originally chose to live with (my mother) to 
visit and hold her and do those things that only they could doif 
Tomi has anything special, now is the time to give it to him.

Bless you and himit is so very hard.





 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon


  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this, and 
last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

  But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.  I'm 
still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up the last 
bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.

  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get better.

  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't 
know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing to 
him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for me to 
handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To me it feels 
like I would be personally ending his life.

  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer he 
will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated due to 
anemia.

  I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was positive 
he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the sun.  I 
would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half years.

  Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've been 
trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so loving and tolerant 
of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so empty when he is gone.


  Cassandra



Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread Marylyn
Tears are from love and kindness not from lack of strength.never, 
ever be ashamed of tears or even regret them for 1/1 of a second.  

Our little friends often hold on for us or for a special time to leave...some 
day we will always remember perhaps (a long story but two did that with me).  
They have to know it is ok and sometimes we just have to make the 
decisioneven if it is not the one the friend would make they understand 
and love us unconditionally.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marissa Johnson 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:07 PM
  Subject: Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon


  Oh Cassandra!  I know EXACTLY how you're feeling!!  I had my Slinky for 
only 8 months and we grew even closer than we already had during the weeks I 
was nursing him and praying he'd recover.  

  I agree with Melissa.  If he's uncomfortable and not having a good quality of 
life, you may want to consider euthanizing him.  He will tell you when it's 
time...you'll notice that his eyes are empty, that he's getting no enjoyment 
out of life, that he's not himself.  If you are able to quiet your thoughts 
with all the emotions and fears clamoring for your attention, you'll be able to 
hear him tell you what he wants.

  With Slinky, I had hoped and prayed that he would go on his own...that way it 
wouldn't feel like a decision I made.  But I could really tell...somehow I just 
knew...when he was ready to go.  After the appointment (much later when I was 
able to process some of it), I realized that I think he needed me to make that 
decision for him.  While I had told him that I would do whatever he wanted me 
to do and that it was okay for him to go, I did so through tears (I wasn't 
strong enough to stop them).  And I think he knew better...I really honestly 
believe that he was fighting for ME...that he wanted to be there to take care 
of me because he knew I needed him.  I think that if I hadn't helped him to go, 
he would have held on to the bitter end and it would have been the most painful 
awful existance he could've had.  I think by making the decision to end his 
fight, I was sending him the message loud and clear that it was okay for him to 
go.

  Every time we went to the vet in those last few days/weeks (and going to the 
vet was never terribly traumatic for Slink, so it didn't bother me...but I know 
it can be horrible for other cats), I told him we were going to see Dr. 
Garrison and see if she could make him feel better.  When we went to that last 
appointment, I had dreaded that moment, and trying to figure out what I was 
going to tell him.  But the words came...and I told him that we were going to 
see Dr. Garrison so she could help him go to the bridge, so she coud help him 
leave his sick and tired body...and that I was giving him the only gift I had 
left to give: a peaceful bridge crossing.

  I picked up his ashes today when I took my new baby to the vet...so all this 
is a bit raw at the moment.  But it just means I understand completely how 
you're feeling.  If it's terribly traumatic for Tomi to go to the vet, as 
Melissa said, many vets will come to your house for pts...for that very reason. 
 If your vet won't do that, there are house-call vets that you could call.  Of 
course the final decision is yours (and Tomi's).  I remember someone on here 
saying they waited 'till their baby went on his own and by the end they were 
begging God to take him because he was suffering so much.  I'd hate to see you 
or Tomi go through that.  

  Their little spirits love us so much that they'll endure almost anything to 
stay with us.  It's our job to steward that love and trust and make the best 
decisions we can with the information we have at the moment.  If that 
information changes later, that doesn't necessarily mean the decision was wrong 
(thanks for that pearl of wisdom, MC!).  Only you can know what the best 
decision is in this situation.  Just love him as much as you can and try to 
listen (and be willing to hear) to what he wants you to do.

  ((Cassandra  This is some of the worst pain you can go 
through...hang in there and keep us updated.  We're all here for you!!  Hugs to 
you and head bonks to Tomi.

  Marissa, Mouse, and Angel Slinky =^..^=

  C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this, and 
last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

Today, he

Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm so sorry to hear he's struggling. It is very hard to find a vet that
will do a housecall euthanasia in many places, but it's an option you should
call around and inquire about.

Phaewryn

http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources
  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:18 PM
  Subject: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon


  I've been hoping and praying that Tomi would somehow pull through this,
and last week he did seem to be doing better on the 2 prednisone per day.

  But now, the last few days, he's been going downhill fast.

  Today, he is out of breath just walking a few feet, and breathing fast.
I'm still able to coax him to eat a bit of baby food, but he just threw up
the last bit of food I gave him.  He never throws up normally.

  I guess I have to finally accept the fact that he's not going to get
better.

  I've been thinking about the whole euthanizing thing, but I honestly don't
know how I could do that to him.  To spend the last hours of his life doing
to him what he hates the most (car ride and vet visit), seems too hard for
me to handle.  I don't think i'm strong enough to make that decision.  To me
it feels like I would be personally ending his life.

  I don't want him to suffer either, and i'm not sure at all how much longer
he will last when he is having difficulty getting enough oxygen circulated
due to anemia.

  I still can't believe all this has happened.  Two months ago I was
positive he would one day become a chunky, lazy old tom cat, lounging in the
sun.  I would never have dreamed I would lose him after only 2 and a half
years.

  Over the last 7 weeks, i've become even closer to him than ever as I've
been trying to nurse him back to health.He's always been so loving and
tolerant of my hugs and kisses.  Life is going to feel so empty when he is
gone.


  Cassandra





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Re: I believe I am going to lose Tomi soon

2007-04-25 Thread wendy
Cassandra,

I'm so sorry that Tomi is not doing well.  How hard it
must be for you to watch him decline like he is.  I'm
really sorry Cassandra.  If it doesn't feel right to
take Tomi in for pts, you have two options.  One is to
have a vet come to you to pts at home, or two, to let
Tomi pass naturally.  Only you and Tomi can know what
is right for him.  Tomi should be able to give you
some idea as to what he wants.  Just ask him and then
listen.  No one can say what is right here; it's a
very sensitive, very personal choice.  Do what you
feel is right for him in your gut.  I completely
understand how you feel about this.  This is a
decision that none of us ever want to have to make,
but sadly many of us do.  Please know you and Tomi are
in our thoughts.

:)
Wendy

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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-17 Thread catatonya
He is beautiful!
  tonya


Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-16 Thread Gina WN
Tomi boy is gorgeous!

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I took these pictures today of my 
little Tomi boy:
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
   
   
  And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
   
   
  Cassandra



 
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Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-16 Thread Gina WN
Tomi is in my prayers.  I hope by some miracle he'll pull through.
   
  Gina

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked.  He's been 
lethargic again lately.  The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week 
and a half.
   
  I just don't understand it.  After his transfusion, his blood count went up 
on its own from 13, to 17, then 19.  Now in the last few weeks, its gone down 
to 17, and now 11.
   
  I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now 
all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day.
   
  I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood.  The vet 
says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think 
another transfusion would be worth it.
   
  I don't know what the heck else to do.  Maybe I should stop his interferon 
while giving him the prednisone.
   
  This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually 
pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :(  It's such a feeling of 
desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything 
about it.
   
  Cassandra



 
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RE: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-16 Thread cindy reasoner
Tomi is so beautiful!  The one of him with Kisa is
just so adorable.  I will be praying for both of you.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Diane Rosenfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Beautiful!  My best vibes to Tomi.
  
 Diane R.
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of C  J
 Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today
 
 
 I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
  
  
 And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other
 Felv baby) together:
  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
  
  
 Cassandra
 


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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-15 Thread Barb Moermond
Tomi is absolutely beautiful; you can see the love he has for you in his eyes.
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living 
his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
   - Anonymous

- Original Message 
From: C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25:21 AM
Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today



 
 


I took these pictures today of my little Tomi 
boy:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg

 

 

And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other 
Felv baby) together:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg

 

 

Cassandra





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RE: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-15 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Beautiful!  My best vibes to Tomi.
 
Diane R.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today


I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
 
 
And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
 
 
Cassandra


Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-15 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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It is desperation.  It's the way aids was before they invented all  
those drugs for it.  I am having the same problem with one of my  
darling triplets I raised without a mommy from two days old.  Not  
only is he FelV pos but also a diag of lymphoma.  It has just been a  
comedy of errors, TIME, and  to get to the right (I hope)  
oncologist.  This is the horrible part:  he got it from my mother's  
two feral cats because apparently she never bothered to tame them,  
which could have been done at the time--they were babies--or take  
them to the vet.  I'm an only child and divorced and she won't leave  
her home and now she can't see so I moved it and this is what has  
happened.  I feel the triplets and my other two cats have so  
nightmarishly betrayed.  The vet screwed up, too, because I always  
vaccinate my cats for FelV on general principles--once you'ce seen a  
beloved FelV pos cat pass away (at ten--but STILL. . . .) you never,  
ever want to see that again.


Cassandra, go to the felinelymphomacaregivers.org site.
On Apr 13, 2007, at 6:08 PM, C  J wrote:

I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked.  He's been  
lethargic again lately.  The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the  
last week and a half.


I just don't understand it.  After his transfusion, his blood count  
went up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19.  Now in the last few  
weeks, its gone down to 17, and now 11.


I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half,  
and now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1  
to 2 tablets a day.


I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood.   
The vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and  
she didn't think another transfusion would be worth it.


I don't know what the heck else to do.  Maybe I should stop his  
interferon while giving him the prednisone.


This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might  
actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone : 
(  It's such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting  
worse, and not being able to do anything about it.


Cassandra





Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-14 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Cassandra so sorry about sweet Tomi.Hugs to you.
  Sherry

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I got an extra week of the doxy, so basically I just quit giving it to him a 
couple of days ago. He was on it for nearly 5 weeks, which should be good 
enough (I believe the vet said the hemobart was gone as well, though I 
wasn't really listening to that part after she told me the PCV was 11).

Thank you for the kind thoughts everyone, they are really helpful to me 
right now. I've just never experienced anything quite so agonizing as 
having a loved one slowly slipping away from me day by day.

Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: wendy 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(


 Truthfully, I was wondering the same thing that
 Belinda is saying...when you took Tomi off the doxy,
 is that when his PCV fell again?

 :)
 Wendy

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 Put him back on the doxy you have nothing to lose
 and everything to gain.

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Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-14 Thread Marylyn
I've done this as have a lot of people on the list.  Try very hard to enjoy the 
days you have with Tomi and not to let the thought of losing him overshadow the 
deep love you share.  He has things left to teach you and to share with you.  
If your grief overshadows your time together you will loose this and so will 
he.  The Royal Princess Kitty Katt and Mai Mai taught me this in long, drawn 
out illnesses that totally broke my heart.  I look back and realize grieving 
took away a lot of pleasure.  None of us know when we are going to leave this 
world.  Talk to Tomi and find out what his wishes areit will make you 
feel lots better.

Blessings to you both. 





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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry DeHaan 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(


  Cassandra so sorry about sweet Tomi.Hugs to you.
  Sherry

  C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got an extra week of the doxy, so basically I just quit giving it to him 
a 
couple of days ago. He was on it for nearly 5 weeks, which should be good 
enough (I believe the vet said the hemobart was gone as well, though I 
wasn't really listening to that part after she told me the PCV was 11).

Thank you for the kind thoughts everyone, they are really helpful to me 
right now. I've just never experienced anything quite so agonizing as 
having a loved one slowly slipping away from me day by day.

Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: wendy 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(


 Truthfully, I was wondering the same thing that
 Belinda is saying...when you took Tomi off the doxy,
 is that when his PCV fell again?

 :)
 Wendy

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 and everything to gain.

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A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread C J
I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


Cassandra

RE: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Melissa Lind
Cassandra, My heart hurts for you! Tomi is so beautiful. His eyes just speak
volumes. Thanks for sharing your pictures. Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

 

I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg

 

 

And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg

 

 

Cassandra



Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Cassandra he is a VERY handsome boy.I love the pic of him and Kisa!! 
  Sherry

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
   
   
  And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:
   
  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
   
   
  Cassandra


   
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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Sally Davis

Hi Cassandra,

Tomi looks like my Tiny who passed this past Christmas day. Tiny liked to
cuddle with Ittle Bitty just like your Tomi and Kisa.

They are both beautiful.

Sally


On 4/14/07, C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


Cassandra



Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread TatorBunz
Cassandra,
Those are beautiful photos of Tomi and  Kisa!
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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Kelly L

At 09:25 AM 4/14/2007, you wrote:




He is so beautiful...Oh it is so very very hard, It hurts so damn 
much..I know this is stupid but have they tried the high dose 
steroids or cyclosporins,,I have used the Immuno regulin, but in this 
situation I think immune suppression is needed, not immune stimulation,
We are all just there with you...holding our breaths and sending as 
much good healing energy as possible

Kelly




I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


Cassandra


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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Marylyn
That is a marvelous little cat who obviously adores you...just look into 
his eyes






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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25 AM
  Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today


  I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


  And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


  Cassandra

Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread C J
I'm using steroids right now, 2 tablets of prednisone per day.  This is back to 
the dosage he was at for a week after his transfusion.  This is basically the 
last thing the vet said we could try, she didn't say anything about 
cyclosporins.

I think he needs the immune suppression as well, though I don't know if his 
bone marrow isn't producing enough red cells, or the virus is killing the new 
cells.  It just seems odd that his red count was going up for a couple of weeks 
after the transfusion, and now its going down.  I'm wondering if maybe the 
virus took over his bone marrow while his immune system was suppressed from the 
prednisone, but I guess its pretty hard to know what is going on.

Thank you all for the kind thoughts.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelly L 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today


  At 09:25 AM 4/14/2007, you wrote:




  He is so beautiful...Oh it is so very very hard, It hurts so damn much..I 
know this is stupid but have they tried the high dose steroids or 
cyclosporins,,I have used the Immuno regulin, but in this situation I think 
immune suppression is needed, not immune stimulation,
  We are all just there with you...holding our breaths and sending as much good 
healing energy as possible
  Kelly




I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
 
 
And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
 
 
Cassandra


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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread Kelly L

At 01:33 PM 4/14/2007, you wrote:



If there were away to make this easier I sure would. We are sending 
lot's of good energy to you.please stay on line and just talk to use 
when ever you need to. We are all here for each other,

Kelly




I'm using steroids right now, 2 tablets of prednisone per day.  This 
is back to the dosage he was at for a week after his 
transfusion.  This is basically the last thing the vet said we could 
try, she didn't say anything about cyclosporins.


I think he needs the immune suppression as well, though I don't know 
if his bone marrow isn't producing enough red cells, or the virus is 
killing the new cells.  It just seems odd that his red count was 
going up for a couple of weeks after the transfusion, and now its 
going down.  I'm wondering if maybe the virus took over his bone 
marrow while his immune system was suppressed from the prednisone, 
but I guess its pretty hard to know what is going on.


Thank you all for the kind thoughts.

Cassandra
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kelly L
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

At 09:25 AM 4/14/2007, you wrote:




He is so beautiful...Oh it is so very very hard, It hurts so damn 
much..I know this is stupid but have they tried the high dose 
steroids or cyclosporins,,I have used the Immuno regulin, but in 
this situation I think immune suppression is needed, not immune stimulation,
We are all just there with you...holding our breaths and sending as 
much good healing energy as possible

Kelly




I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg


And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other Felv baby) together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg


Cassandra


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Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-14 Thread Belinda
   I have known of cat with hemo that had to be on the doxy for *longer 
than 6 weeks*, only my opinion but I would put him back on it.  Has he 
been checked for Ehrlichia?  Please make sure you vet is aware of these 
possibilities, talked about below.


Here are some links to some of the causes of feline anemia:

http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=408425

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002PID=2590

Some other causes:

*Feline Haemobartonellosis* is the most frequent cause of anemia in 
cats either as a primary or secondary opportunistic disease. (A cat 
with another disease such as feline leukemia will be more 
susceptible.) The prevalence of the disease is higher in male and 
outdoor roaming cats. It can be transmitted by ticks and also can be 
transmitted from an infected queen to her kittens. Symptoms can 
include sluggishness, depression and a lack of appetite that can 
become severe.


*Feline Babesiosis* is a disease caused by a strain of a Babesia 
protozoan microorganism. The tick Rhipicephalus sanguineos is the 
culprit for this one. Signs to look for include fever, anemia and 
jaundice.


*Feline Cytauxzoonosis* is a disease in domestic cats that causes 
severe anemia and can be fatal. It is transmitted by ticks and mainly 
by the Dermacentor variabilis. Cats with access to the outdoors are 
at a higher risk of this disease and, if infected, can exhibit fever, 
loss of appetite and depression.


If caught quickly, these diseases can all be treated, so keep a keen 
eye on your pet and talk to your vet about any sudden behavioral changes.



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Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-14 Thread C J
Those links are an interesting read, but from what I understood, Feline 
Babesiosis and Cytauxzoonosis are extremely rare in North America.  It looks 
like those mainly occur in South America.  For the Ehrlichia, it looks like it 
also uses Doxycycline as a treatment, so even if Tomi had it, he should be 
treated for it.

It looks like bone marrow suppression is the main cause of anemia in FeLV 
cases, but they don't seem to offer any suggestion on dealing with that :(.

There is one thing I am wondering about with Tomi, and I can't figure out the 
cause.  For the last week or so, something seems to be irritating him.  He will 
sometimes suddenly run a few steps and lick himself vigorously in several 
different spots.  He also seems to be scratching his head/neck more often than 
normal.

I was wondering if he might have fleas, but I can't see anything in his fur.  I 
see no flea droppings etc.  About all i've found is a couple of very small 
scabs, that could easily have been cause by his scratching.  I doubt he has ear 
mites either, since his ears are very clean looking.

Its not likely this has anything to do with his anemia, but its just something 
I find a bit odd.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: Belinda 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(


  I have known of cat with hemo that had to be on the doxy for longer than 
6 weeks, only my opinion but I would put him back on it.  Has he been checked 
for Ehrlichia?  Please make sure you vet is aware of these possibilities, 
talked about below.

  Here are some links to some of the causes of feline anemia:

  http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=408425

  http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002PID=2590

  Some other causes:


Feline Haemobartonellosis is the most frequent cause of anemia in cats 
either as a primary or secondary opportunistic disease. (A cat with another 
disease such as feline leukemia will be more susceptible.) The prevalence of 
the disease is higher in male and outdoor roaming cats. It can be transmitted 
by ticks and also can be transmitted from an infected queen to her kittens. 
Symptoms can include sluggishness, depression and a lack of appetite that can 
become severe.

Feline Babesiosis is a disease caused by a strain of a Babesia protozoan 
microorganism. The tick Rhipicephalus sanguineos is the culprit for this one. 
Signs to look for include fever, anemia and jaundice.

Feline Cytauxzoonosis is a disease in domestic cats that causes severe 
anemia and can be fatal. It is transmitted by ticks and mainly by the 
Dermacentor variabilis. Cats with access to the outdoors are at a higher risk 
of this disease and, if infected, can exhibit fever, loss of appetite and 
depression.

If caught quickly, these diseases can all be treated, so keep a keen eye on 
your pet and talk to your vet about any sudden behavioral changes.



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Re: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today

2007-04-14 Thread wendy
Cassandra,

Tomi is gorgeous!!!  What a beautiful face!  The good
thing for Tomi, but bad for the fleas, is that he's
light colored.  You can see the fleas really easily in
light fur.

:)
Wendy


--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy:
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg
 
 
 And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other
 Felv baby) together:
 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg
 
 
 Cassandra


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Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-13 Thread C J
I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked.  He's been lethargic 
again lately.  The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last week and a half.

I just don't understand it.  After his transfusion, his blood count went up on 
its own from 13, to 17, then 19.  Now in the last few weeks, its gone down to 
17, and now 11.

I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and now all 
the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2 tablets a day.

I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood.  The vet 
says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she didn't think 
another transfusion would be worth it.

I don't know what the heck else to do.  Maybe I should stop his interferon 
while giving him the prednisone.

This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might actually pull 
through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :(  It's such a feeling of 
desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not being able to do anything 
about it.

Cassandra

RE: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

2007-04-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
How long are you giving him interferon?  If it's been for a few weeks,
is it possible that it is losing effect from antibody?

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Well, it looks like i'm going to lose Tomi :(

 

I took Tomi to the vet today to have his PCV rechecked.  He's been
lethargic again lately.  The PCV has gone down to 11 from 17 in the last
week and a half.

 

I just don't understand it.  After his transfusion, his blood count went
up on its own from 13, to 17, then 19.  Now in the last few weeks, its
gone down to 17, and now 11.

 

I've been giving him prednisone again for the last week and a half, and
now all the vet could suggest was to up his prednisone from 1 to 2
tablets a day.

 

I guess his hemobartonella wasn't the only problem with his blood.  The
vet says that its likely his bone marrow is shutting down, and she
didn't think another transfusion would be worth it.

 

I don't know what the heck else to do.  Maybe I should stop his
interferon while giving him the prednisone.

 

This is so hard, just when I had a glimmer of hope that he might
actually pull through this, now my hope is pretty much gone :(  It's
such a feeling of desperation to see him slowly getting worse, and not
being able to do anything about it.

 

Cassandra



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