[Finale] Finale 2012 centering a single whole note in a measure

2018-10-26 Thread Martin Banner
I’m running Finale 2012 on an iMac. In the last measure of each movement of a 
piece I’m working on, there is a single whole not. How can I center the whole 
note in the measure (the whole note is now aligned to the left of the measure). 
Thanks for your help.

Martin
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[Finale] Finale 2012, Mac 10.9.5 and MIDI

2018-07-23 Thread Martin Banner
For some unknown reason this morning, something happened to my MIDI connection 
where I could not enter notes in speedy entry in Finale 2012 on my iMac (OS 
10.9.5). I unplugged my MIDI interface, went to the “MIDI Studio” window, and 
was able to get back the ability to enter notes using my synthesizer in Speedy 
Note entry.

HOWEVER…now when I enter notes, I get what sounds like a percussion sound 
(perhaps a marimba) each time I enter a different pitch in Finale. How do I get 
rid of this percussive sound when I enter notes now in Speedy?

Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom.

Martin
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[Finale] Finale and Mac OS

2018-06-11 Thread Martin Banner
I currently use Finale 2012 on my iMac with OS 10.9.5.  I am seriously thinking 
about updating the OS on my Mac to High Sierra (not sure what the OS number is 
for that), and also upgrading to the most current version of Finale. If I do 
upgrade from 10.9.5 to High Sierra, will I still be able to access and use my 
Finale files created in earlier versions (FinMac 2008, 20012)? Thanks in 
advance for your advice.

Martin Banner
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[Finale] an 18th Century horn question

2017-10-23 Thread Martin Banner
Greetings Andy,

I hope all is well with you!

I was wondering if you could share your thoughts on the horn parts in a sacred 
latin work for chorus and orchestra by Giambattista (Padre) Martini from 
Bologna that I recently came across. The horn parts are notated on the bottom 
staff of the manuscript, without any indication of what key the horn parts 
should be in. I’m assuming they are written in bass clef, although one is not 
written in the score for the horns. Are they horns in F? Should I rewrite them 
in treble clef, top line and second space?

Thanks for your help, both now and in the past.

Warmest regards,
Martin

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Re: [Finale] Speedy entry issue in Mac Finale 2012

2016-08-04 Thread Martin Banner
John, I don’t think it is…I’ve been playing around with the MIDI setup, 
rebooting Finale and my computer, and somehow my system is working again. I 
have no idea what it is that I did to fix it. I guess I shouldn’t look a gift 
horse…


On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:28 PM, John Blane <j...@blanemusic.com> wrote:

> Is your keyboard capable of "aftertouch" and is it enabled?
> 
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> 
> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> What would you need to know? I’m great at using my system when everything is 
>> working, but not so good at the technical side of things.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:13 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmm.  It almost sounds as if something in your MIDI stream is generating a 
>>> note-on MIDI even for a note-off event.  More details about your MIDI setup 
>>> might be useful here.
>>> 
>>> ***
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>>> ThomaStudios
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I get the percussive mallet sound whenever I press and release any note on 
>>>> my MIDI synthesizer, even if I am not entering a note onto a staff in 
>>>> finale. Trying to figure out how to be able to play a note on my synth 
>>>> without the mallet sound occurring after I release my finger from the 
>>>> synth.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:44 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Check in MIDI assignment in the instrument list.  Sounds as if you have a 
>>>>> percussion sound applied where you don’t want it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ***
>>>>> J D Thomas
>>>>> ThomaStudios
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I created a brand new file in Finale 2012 on my iMac today, and now when 
>>>>>> I enter notes using my MIDI keyboard/synth and speedy note entry, every 
>>>>>> time I enter a new note and lift up my finger from the keyboard, I hear 
>>>>>> a percussive mallet sound. Any ideas what’s causing this, and how I can 
>>>>>> get rid of this annoying sound after entering each new note in Speedy?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Martin
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Re: [Finale] Speedy entry issue in Mac Finale 2012

2016-08-04 Thread Martin Banner
I’m beginning to think the problem is with my MIDI synthesizer and not Finale. 
Even with Finale closed, when I press any note on my synth, I get the mallet 
sound after I release the note on the synth keyboard. Any clue what might be 
causing my synth to do this, and how I can stop it from happening?

Thanks.
Martin


On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:12 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote:

> I think that’s what it’s called.  To be honest, I hardly ever look at the 
> title of a dialog.  I always just it Cmd-K to get there.
> 
> ***
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> By "instrument list", do you mean in the Score Manager?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:44 PM, "j...@thomastudios.com" <j...@thomastudios.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Check in MIDI assignment in the instrument list.  Sounds as if you have a 
>>> percussion sound applied where you don’t want it.
>>> 
>>> ***
>>> J D Thomas
>>> ThomaStudios
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I created a brand new file in Finale 2012 on my iMac today, and now when I 
>>>> enter notes using my MIDI keyboard/synth and speedy note entry, every time 
>>>> I enter a new note and lift up my finger from the keyboard, I hear a 
>>>> percussive mallet sound. Any ideas what’s causing this, and how I can get 
>>>> rid of this annoying sound after entering each new note in Speedy?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> hsu.edu


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Re: [Finale] Speedy entry issue in Mac Finale 2012

2016-08-04 Thread Martin Banner
What would you need to know? I’m great at using my system when everything is 
working, but not so good at the technical side of things.


On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:13 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote:

> Hmm.  It almost sounds as if something in your MIDI stream is generating a 
> note-on MIDI even for a note-off event.  More details about your MIDI setup 
> might be useful here.
> 
> ***
> J D Thomas
> ThomaStudios
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I get the percussive mallet sound whenever I press and release any note on 
>> my MIDI synthesizer, even if I am not entering a note onto a staff in 
>> finale. Trying to figure out how to be able to play a note on my synth 
>> without the mallet sound occurring after I release my finger from the synth.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:44 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Check in MIDI assignment in the instrument list.  Sounds as if you have a 
>>> percussion sound applied where you don’t want it.
>>> 
>>> ***
>>> J D Thomas
>>> ThomaStudios
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I created a brand new file in Finale 2012 on my iMac today, and now when I 
>>>> enter notes using my MIDI keyboard/synth and speedy note entry, every time 
>>>> I enter a new note and lift up my finger from the keyboard, I hear a 
>>>> percussive mallet sound. Any ideas what’s causing this, and how I can get 
>>>> rid of this annoying sound after entering each new note in Speedy?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
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Re: [Finale] Speedy entry issue in Mac Finale 2012

2016-08-04 Thread Martin Banner
I get the percussive mallet sound whenever I press and release any note on my 
MIDI synthesizer, even if I am not entering a note onto a staff in finale. 
Trying to figure out how to be able to play a note on my synth without the 
mallet sound occurring after I release my finger from the synth.


On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:44 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote:

> Check in MIDI assignment in the instrument list.  Sounds as if you have a 
> percussion sound applied where you don’t want it.
> 
> ***
> J D Thomas
> ThomaStudios
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I created a brand new file in Finale 2012 on my iMac today, and now when I 
>> enter notes using my MIDI keyboard/synth and speedy note entry, every time I 
>> enter a new note and lift up my finger from the keyboard, I hear a 
>> percussive mallet sound. Any ideas what’s causing this, and how I can get 
>> rid of this annoying sound after entering each new note in Speedy?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Speedy entry issue in Mac Finale 2012

2016-08-04 Thread Martin Banner
By "instrument list", do you mean in the Score Manager?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 2:44 PM, "j...@thomastudios.com" <j...@thomastudios.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Check in MIDI assignment in the instrument list.  Sounds as if you have a 
> percussion sound applied where you don’t want it.
> 
> ***
> J D Thomas
> ThomaStudios
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I created a brand new file in Finale 2012 on my iMac today, and now when I 
>> enter notes using my MIDI keyboard/synth and speedy note entry, every time I 
>> enter a new note and lift up my finger from the keyboard, I hear a 
>> percussive mallet sound. Any ideas what’s causing this, and how I can get 
>> rid of this annoying sound after entering each new note in Speedy?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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[Finale] Speedy entry issue in Mac Finale 2012

2016-08-04 Thread Martin Banner
I created a brand new file in Finale 2012 on my iMac today, and now when I 
enter notes using my MIDI keyboard/synth and speedy note entry, every time I 
enter a new note and lift up my finger from the keyboard, I hear a percussive 
mallet sound. Any ideas what’s causing this, and how I can get rid of this 
annoying sound after entering each new note in Speedy?

Thanks!

Martin
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Re: [Finale] MacFin 2012 speedy note entry issue

2016-07-16 Thread Martin Banner
I unplugged and then replugged the MIDI interface, and that seemed to do the 
trick finally.


On Jul 16, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Raymond Horton <horton.raym...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When it happens to me, with my USB midi keyboard, I exit Finale, unplug and
> replug the keyboard, and start Finale again. It always works
> 
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> 
> On Jul 16, 2016 2:51 PM, "John Blane" <j...@blanemusic.com> wrote:
> 
>> Great!
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> I took a chance and unplugged my MIDI interface for a minute, then
>> plugged it back in. I’m now back in business again. WHEW!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:25 PM, John Blane <j...@blanemusic.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Martin -
>>>> 
>>>> When this happens to me, I go to Mid/Audio menu>Device
>> Setup>Midi/Internal Speaker setup… to see that the controller is
>> recognized. Usually it is and going through this step re-establishes the
>> midi controller.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> John Blane
>>>> Blane Music Preparation
>>>> 1649 Huntington Ln.
>>>> Highland Park, IL 60035
>>>> (847) 579-9900
>>>> (847) 579-9903 fax
>>>> (847) 217-2174 Cell (text)
>>>> www.BlaneMusic.com
>>>> j...@blanemusic.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have logged out and in several times, have rebooted my computer
>> several times, and still no luck. Any other solutions? Besides, I rarely,
>> if ever, leave my synth and/or Finale on for a while unless I’m actively
>> using them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Eric Fiedler <eric.f.fied...@t-online.de>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This happens to me regularly. Fin seems to lose contact with the
>> midi-interface when left on but not used for a while. Closing Fin and
>> logging out and then in again (or reboot) usually helps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 16.07.2016, at 19:49, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was inputting some notes into a file in speedy note entry with my
>> synthesizer without any problems. I then shut down Finale for a while,
>> restarted Finale and opened up the file to continue inputting some notes,
>> and now the only thing I get when I press a key on the synthesizer and then
>> press a key on the computer number pad, are rests. Any idea what’s wrong
>> now, or what I need to do so I can continue inputting notes using my synth
>> and computer number pad? I have no problem with playback, that’s fine.
>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Martin
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Re: [Finale] MacFin 2012 speedy note entry issue

2016-07-16 Thread Martin Banner
John,

I took a chance and unplugged my MIDI interface for a minute, then plugged it 
back in. I’m now back in business again. WHEW!


On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:25 PM, John Blane <j...@blanemusic.com> wrote:

> Martin -
> 
> When this happens to me, I go to Mid/Audio menu>Device Setup>Midi/Internal 
> Speaker setup… to see that the controller is recognized. Usually it is and 
> going through this step re-establishes the midi controller.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> John Blane
> Blane Music Preparation   
> 1649 Huntington Ln.
> Highland Park, IL 60035
> (847) 579-9900
> (847) 579-9903 fax
> (847) 217-2174 Cell (text)
> www.BlaneMusic.com
> j...@blanemusic.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have logged out and in several times, have rebooted my computer several 
>> times, and still no luck. Any other solutions? Besides, I rarely, if ever, 
>> leave my synth and/or Finale on for a while unless I’m actively using them.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Eric Fiedler <eric.f.fied...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> This happens to me regularly. Fin seems to lose contact with the 
>>> midi-interface when left on but not used for a while. Closing Fin and 
>>> logging out and then in again (or reboot) usually helps.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 16.07.2016, at 19:49, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I was inputting some notes into a file in speedy note entry with my 
>>>> synthesizer without any problems. I then shut down Finale for a while, 
>>>> restarted Finale and opened up the file to continue inputting some notes, 
>>>> and now the only thing I get when I press a key on the synthesizer and 
>>>> then press a key on the computer number pad, are rests. Any idea what’s 
>>>> wrong now, or what I need to do so I can continue inputting notes using my 
>>>> synth and computer number pad? I have no problem with playback, that’s 
>>>> fine. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>>>> 
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Re: [Finale] MacFin 2012 speedy note entry issue

2016-07-16 Thread Martin Banner
I tried doing this, can’t seem to get this to work. 


On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:25 PM, John Blane <j...@blanemusic.com> wrote:

> Martin -
> 
> When this happens to me, I go to Mid/Audio menu>Device Setup>Midi/Internal 
> Speaker setup… to see that the controller is recognized. Usually it is and 
> going through this step re-establishes the midi controller.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> John Blane
> Blane Music Preparation   
> 1649 Huntington Ln.
> Highland Park, IL 60035
> (847) 579-9900
> (847) 579-9903 fax
> (847) 217-2174 Cell (text)
> www.BlaneMusic.com
> j...@blanemusic.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have logged out and in several times, have rebooted my computer several 
>> times, and still no luck. Any other solutions? Besides, I rarely, if ever, 
>> leave my synth and/or Finale on for a while unless I’m actively using them.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Eric Fiedler <eric.f.fied...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> This happens to me regularly. Fin seems to lose contact with the 
>>> midi-interface when left on but not used for a while. Closing Fin and 
>>> logging out and then in again (or reboot) usually helps.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 16.07.2016, at 19:49, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I was inputting some notes into a file in speedy note entry with my 
>>>> synthesizer without any problems. I then shut down Finale for a while, 
>>>> restarted Finale and opened up the file to continue inputting some notes, 
>>>> and now the only thing I get when I press a key on the synthesizer and 
>>>> then press a key on the computer number pad, are rests. Any idea what’s 
>>>> wrong now, or what I need to do so I can continue inputting notes using my 
>>>> synth and computer number pad? I have no problem with playback, that’s 
>>>> fine. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>>>> 
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Re: [Finale] MacFin 2012 speedy note entry issue

2016-07-16 Thread Martin Banner
This doesn’t work.


On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Happens to me periodically, and all I need to do is turn my MIDI keyboard off 
> and on again to reestablish the connection. 
> 
> Chuck Israels
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Eric Fiedler <eric.f.fied...@t-online.de> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This happens to me regularly. Fin seems to lose contact with the 
>> midi-interface when left on but not used for a while. Closing Fin and 
>> logging out and then in again (or reboot) usually helps.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 16.07.2016, at 19:49, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was inputting some notes into a file in speedy note entry with my 
>>> synthesizer without any problems. I then shut down Finale for a while, 
>>> restarted Finale and opened up the file to continue inputting some notes, 
>>> and now the only thing I get when I press a key on the synthesizer and then 
>>> press a key on the computer number pad, are rests. Any idea what’s wrong 
>>> now, or what I need to do so I can continue inputting notes using my synth 
>>> and computer number pad? I have no problem with playback, that’s fine. 
>>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] MacFin 2012 speedy note entry issue

2016-07-16 Thread Martin Banner
I have logged out and in several times, have rebooted my computer several 
times, and still no luck. Any other solutions? Besides, I rarely, if ever, 
leave my synth and/or Finale on for a while unless I’m actively using them.


On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Eric Fiedler <eric.f.fied...@t-online.de> wrote:

> This happens to me regularly. Fin seems to lose contact with the 
> midi-interface when left on but not used for a while. Closing Fin and logging 
> out and then in again (or reboot) usually helps.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 16.07.2016, at 19:49, Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I was inputting some notes into a file in speedy note entry with my 
>> synthesizer without any problems. I then shut down Finale for a while, 
>> restarted Finale and opened up the file to continue inputting some notes, 
>> and now the only thing I get when I press a key on the synthesizer and then 
>> press a key on the computer number pad, are rests. Any idea what’s wrong 
>> now, or what I need to do so I can continue inputting notes using my synth 
>> and computer number pad? I have no problem with playback, that’s fine. 
>> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>> 
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[Finale] MacFin 2012 speedy note entry issue

2016-07-16 Thread Martin Banner
I was inputting some notes into a file in speedy note entry with my synthesizer 
without any problems. I then shut down Finale for a while, restarted Finale and 
opened up the file to continue inputting some notes, and now the only thing I 
get when I press a key on the synthesizer and then press a key on the computer 
number pad, are rests. Any idea what’s wrong now, or what I need to do so I can 
continue inputting notes using my synth and computer number pad? I have no 
problem with playback, that’s fine. Thanks in advance for any help you can 
offer.

Martin
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Re: [Finale] notehead question

2016-07-13 Thread Martin Banner
Thank you, Raphael, worked perfectly!

Martin


On Jul 13, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Dr. Raphael D. Thöne 
<raphael.tho...@drraphaeldthone.onmicrosoft.com> wrote:

> Note Shape Tool, Special Tools Palette. You have to change the lower two 
> notes manually.
> 
> Best
> Raphael.
> 
>> Am 13.07.2016 um 13:41 schrieb Martin Banner <mbanner...@aol.com>:
>> 
>> I’m using Finale 2012 on an iMac. For a triple stop (3 vertical notes) for a 
>> violin, I want the top note to be a half note (empty note head) and the 
>> lower two notes to be a quarter note (filled in note heads). I’ve entered as 
>> a half note. Now how do I blacken the bottom two notes?
>> 
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[Finale] notehead question

2016-07-13 Thread Martin Banner
I’m using Finale 2012 on an iMac. For a triple stop (3 vertical notes) for a 
violin, I want the top note to be a half note (empty note head) and the lower 
two notes to be a quarter note (filled in note heads). I’ve entered as a half 
note. Now how do I blacken the bottom two notes?

Thanks,
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[Finale] 2012 Finale (Mac) lyric issue

2015-08-05 Thread Martin Banner
When using the lyric tool to enter lyrics in Finale 2012 for Mac, I have 
noticed that most individual syllables of text are centered under each note, as 
they should be (and always were in Finale 2008). However, there are many 
syllables of text that are not centered under the notes to which they are 
attached, but rather a little to the right of center under the notes to which 
they are attached. Is there some setting in Fin2012 I need to adjust so that 
every syllable of text is perfectly centered under each note? 

thanks,
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Re: [Finale] 2012 Finale (Mac) lyric issue

2015-08-05 Thread Martin Banner
John,

I tried all of these, and there’s no difference. It’s very strange that some 
syllables are centered, and some are not. The ones that are not centered often 
affect the appearance (or lack of) of word extensions. In those cases, I have 
to manually drag the syllables to the left in order to get enough room for the 
word extensions to appear. This was never an issue in Fin2008.

Martin


On Aug 5, 2015, at 11:52 AM, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Lyric Options, in the Lyrics menu, gives a number of alignment options 
 for lyrics, including word extensions. Does this help?
 JR
 
 
 On 8/5/15 10:59 AM, Martin Banner wrote:
 When using the lyric tool to enter lyrics in Finale 2012 for Mac, I have 
 noticed that most individual syllables of text are centered under each note, 
 as they should be (and always were in Finale 2008). However, there are many 
 syllables of text that are not centered under the notes to which they are 
 attached, but rather a little to the right of center under the notes to 
 which they are attached. Is there some setting in Fin2012 I need to adjust 
 so that every syllable of text is perfectly centered under each note?
 
 thanks,
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Re: [Finale] 2012 Finale (Mac) lyric issue

2015-08-05 Thread Martin Banner
Christopher,

It just seems like a lot of words are placed too far to the right under a note, 
forcing me to nudge the word back to the left so I can get a word extension to 
appear before the next note/word. This was never an issue for me in Fin2008. 
Plus, there seems to be no rhyme or reason why some text is centered and others 
are too far to the right.

Martin

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 On Aug 5, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Christopher Smith 
 christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote:
 
 As I remember, older versions of Finale were NOT dealing with melismas 
 correctly. A syllable that starts a melisma (in other words, one that would 
 use a word extension, but also one that is followed by a hyphen) are SUPPOSED 
 to be left aligned, not centered. Also, any syllable with more than five 
 letters is supposed to be pushed right a bit, so that the third letter is 
 centered. I think new versions of Finale do it correctly. 
 
 If you want something different than the way Finale defaults to, I'm pretty 
 sure you can find the relevant options in the Lyric Tool. If you still have 
 trouble, write back.
 
 Christopher
 
 
 On Wed Aug 5, at WednesdayAug 5 10:59 AM, Martin Banner wrote:
 
 When using the lyric tool to enter lyrics in Finale 2012 for Mac, I have 
 noticed that most individual syllables of text are centered under each note, 
 as they should be (and always were in Finale 2008). However, there are many 
 syllables of text that are not centered under the notes to which they are 
 attached, but rather a little to the right of center under the notes to 
 which they are attached. Is there some setting in Fin2012 I need to adjust 
 so that every syllable of text is perfectly centered under each note? 
 
 thanks,
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[Finale] Word extensions in Finale 2012

2015-03-28 Thread Martin Banner
I am running Finale 2012 on an iMac and am running into a constant problem with 
word extensions (I never had this problem with Finale 2008). For some unknown 
(to me) reason, sometimes word extensions appear correctly and then other 
times, word extensions do not appear on a final syllable of text with two or 
more notes. If I manually nudge the text syllable enough to the left, the word 
extension will appear. What I’ve noticed with this is that sometimes, the final 
syllable of text is too far to the right, even when I do a layout update. I’m 
assuming there’s something wrong in the documents items, but I can’t figure out 
what it is.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Martin
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[Finale] Repeat tool and Da Capo in FinMac 2012

2015-02-03 Thread Martin Banner
I have a two movement work. At the end of the first movement, there is a Da 
Capo marking, with the repeat of the first movement happening before the second 
movement begins. I used the Repeat tool successfully to place the Da Capo 
marking in the last measure of the first movement, and upon playback, the music 
correctly goes back to measure one and begins playing.

Now for my question…in the repeat of the Da Capo, how do I get the playback to 
stop on beat 3 of measure 73 (there are 90 measures in the first movement), 
rather than continuing to play to the very end of the movement (measure 90). In 
addition, after the Da Capo repeat, I want the playback to continue on to the 
second movement.

I’ve read the online manual, but I sure I’m missing something here. Thanks in 
advance for any helpful hints or suggestions.

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[Finale] 18th Century horn notation and playback on Finale 2012

2015-01-28 Thread Martin Banner
I am currently preparing a modern performing edition of an 18th Century Italian 
sacred work for chorus, strings, oboes and two horns.

Looking at the written horn parts, they appear to be in D, since the key 
signature for the composition is D major (2 sharps), and the horn parts are 
written with no key signature (first note is written on third space above 
middle C, which should sound concert D fourth line.

When I enter the horn parts around the second and third spaces above middle C 
(in treble clef), the note heads appear in yellow. The C and D above middle C 
playback correctly, but the fourth space E (and anything higher) do not play 
back. The playback is a step higher than written, which works in the key of D 
major.

Is there something is Score Manager transposition that I can do to get all the 
notes to appear in black and play back? Should the playback of these notes 
sound an octave lower hovering around middle C?

All you horn specialists (and I know there are some of you out there who have 
been of great help to me in the past), please weigh in on this and help me 
figure this out.

Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] 18th Century horn notation and playback on Finale 2012

2015-01-28 Thread Martin Banner
Using Staff Transposition in Score Manager, what should I enter in the Interval 
and key alter boxes under other?


On Jan 28, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:

 Horns in D should sound a minor seventh lower than written: an octave lower 
 than the transposition you are using. 
 
 Best wishes,
 Michael
 
 On 28 Jan 2015, at 17:04, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I am currently preparing a modern performing edition of an 18th Century 
 Italian sacred work for chorus, strings, oboes and two horns.
 
 Looking at the written horn parts, they appear to be in D, since the key 
 signature for the composition is D major (2 sharps), and the horn parts are 
 written with no key signature (first note is written on third space above 
 middle C, which should sound concert D fourth line.
 
 When I enter the horn parts around the second and third spaces above middle 
 C (in treble clef), the note heads appear in yellow. The C and D above 
 middle C playback correctly, but the fourth space E (and anything higher) do 
 not play back. The playback is a step higher than written, which works in 
 the key of D major.
 
 Is there something is Score Manager transposition that I can do to get all 
 the notes to appear in black and play back? Should the playback of these 
 notes sound an octave lower hovering around middle C?
 
 All you horn specialists (and I know there are some of you out there who 
 have been of great help to me in the past), please weigh in on this and help 
 me figure this out.
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] 18th Century horn notation and playback on Finale 2012

2015-01-28 Thread Martin Banner
Michael,

Thanks for this. I actually figured out the settings while waiting for a 
response to my previous inquiry. Everything works now as it should!

Martin


On Jan 28, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:

 Interval: 6
 Key Alter: -2
 
 I still have to think twice about these settings. It would be nice if they 
 were made more musician-friendly...
 
 
 On 28 Jan 2015, at 17:26, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Using Staff Transposition in Score Manager, what should I enter in the 
 Interval and key alter boxes under other?
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:
 
 Horns in D should sound a minor seventh lower than written: an octave lower 
 than the transposition you are using. 
 
 Best wishes,
 Michael
 
 On 28 Jan 2015, at 17:04, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I am currently preparing a modern performing edition of an 18th Century 
 Italian sacred work for chorus, strings, oboes and two horns.
 
 Looking at the written horn parts, they appear to be in D, since the key 
 signature for the composition is D major (2 sharps), and the horn parts 
 are written with no key signature (first note is written on third space 
 above middle C, which should sound concert D fourth line.
 
 When I enter the horn parts around the second and third spaces above 
 middle C (in treble clef), the note heads appear in yellow. The C and D 
 above middle C playback correctly, but the fourth space E (and anything 
 higher) do not play back. The playback is a step higher than written, 
 which works in the key of D major.
 
 Is there something is Score Manager transposition that I can do to get all 
 the notes to appear in black and play back? Should the playback of these 
 notes sound an octave lower hovering around middle C?
 
 All you horn specialists (and I know there are some of you out there who 
 have been of great help to me in the past), please weigh in on this and 
 help me figure this out.
 
 Thanks!
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[Finale] Finale 2012 (Mac) and expression tool

2015-01-12 Thread Martin Banner
I am using Finale 2012 on my iMac (OS 10.9.5) and have a question about the 
expression tool. When I used to use Finale 2008, I was able to choose (or 
create a new) tempo marking, and then to to “staff list” dialogue box and 
choose which staves I wanted the dynamic marking to appear (I could also check 
or uncheck “independent placement” or something like that). In 2012, I do not 
see the “staff list” option. Any help as to where I’ll find it?

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] Re(2): Finale 2012 and EVPUs

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
John,

THANK YOU!!!

This did the trick! I wonder why the tech guys at Finale Central didn’t tell me 
to do this!

Martin


On Nov 11, 2014, at 7:42 AM, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 I have never had problems regarding EVPUs which I have used since 
 version 2.1. I seem to recall that the defaults changed, so you have to 
 change preferences.
 
 The main global selection is not in Preferences per se: it is in the 
 Finale 2012 menu. Right below Preferences is Measurement Units where you 
 select EVPUs.
 
 And don't forget to Save Preferences (bottom of the File menu) after 
 you've done this.
 
 JR
 
 
 
 On 11/11/14 1:04 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote:
 My apologies to Martin Banner and the members this list: I do not have 
 Finale 2012 installed any more; my answer was referred to Finale 2014 for 
 which I don't have the problems mentioned by Martin on 2012. I was misled by 
 a usual hurry which sometimes I'm invaded by.
 
 Giovanni
 
 
 
 
 Giovanni Andreani
 
 www.giovanniandreani.com
 
 I've got measurements units set to EVPUs on a Mac and don't have your
 problem, although I have others!
 
 Giovanni
 
 
 
 
 Giovanni Andreani
 
 www.giovanniandreani.com
 
 At least under Finale 2014 Windows that does not occur
 if you set the default measurement units to EVPUs.
 I wonder why this behaviour should be platform dependent.
 
 Jan
 
 Am 10.11.2014 16:41, schrieb Martin Banner:
 I have been using Finale since version 1.0, and therefore have been
 trained from the very beginning to do all of my measurements in EVPUs.
 For the last several years I have been using Finale 2008 and able to
 complete all of my projects in EVPUs.
 
 Because my old iMac (OS 10.5.8) died a month ago, I had to buy a new
 iMac (OS 10.9.5) and am forced into using Finale 2012 (2008 is no longer
 compatible with Mavericks). When I try to use EVPUs in the Staff Tool to
 respace staves and also change position staff name, Finale only shows
 inches, NOT EVPUs. In Page Layout Tool, when I go to edit system
 margins, the boxes show only inches, NOT EVPUs.
 
 I spoke to tech support at Make Music/Finale this morning, and they
 were able to re-create my situation. I was told this is indeed a
 problem, and is as well in Finale 2014.  He was going to report it, but
 had no idea when (or if) there might be a fix for this.
 
 YIKES (and totally disappointed and frustrated after almost thirty
 years of using Finale.
 
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[Finale] Finale 2012 and document options

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
In Finale 2012 (on a Mac OS 10.9.5), I want to be able to create new files by 
using “Setup Wizard” in the Launch Window. I also want to be able to save 
specific setting in “Document Options”, such as lyric and text block fonts, 
time and key signature settings so that whenever I do open Setup Wizard to 
begin a new project, those settings are already there.

Thanks for instructions and help in accomplishing this.

Martin
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 and document options

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
That’s what I thought I did (and just tried to do again), but it’s not working 
for me.  I’m sure I’m doing something incorrectly here. I hate to sound like 
I’m totally inept, but I really need someone to list, step by step, what I need 
to do, with the exact names of where I need to click on to accomplish this. I 
don’t see anything that specifically says “Default Template”. When I open 
Finale, my Launch Window lists, on the upper left hand side:

Setup Wizard
Default Document
Templates

I went into “Default Document”, changed the document options settings that I 
want to save, and yet when I close and save this, then open up a new file using 
setup wizard, my changed settings are not there. Please help if you can. Thanks.


On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:08 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
wrote:

 
 that, my friend, is what we like to call a 'template 8-)
 
 the wizard will ask you to set up the time/key 
 sigs each time you open a new doc with it though. 
 but lots of other settings can be set up to be 
 automatically implemented in any new document by 
 updating your Finale Default Template
 
 In Finale 2012 (on a Mac OS 10.9.5), I want to 
 be able to create new files by using ³Setup 
 Wizard² in the Launch Window. I also want to be 
 able to save specific setting in ³Document 
 Options², such as lyric and text block fonts, 
 time and key signature settings so that whenever 
 I do open Setup Wizard to begin a new project, 
 those settings are already there.
 
 -- 
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 and document options

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
Let my try and clarify what I want to be able to do…

I want to be able to open up a new project in Setup Wizard and have all of my 
specific settings and libraries there every time. No matter what I do, that’s 
not happening for me.

Martin


On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:

 That’s what I thought I did (and just tried to do again), but it’s not 
 working for me.  I’m sure I’m doing something incorrectly here. I hate to 
 sound like I’m totally inept, but I really need someone to list, step by 
 step, what I need to do, with the exact names of where I need to click on to 
 accomplish this. I don’t see anything that specifically says “Default 
 Template”. When I open Finale, my Launch Window lists, on the upper left hand 
 side:
 
 Setup Wizard
 Default Document
 Templates
 
 I went into “Default Document”, changed the document options settings that I 
 want to save, and yet when I close and save this, then open up a new file 
 using setup wizard, my changed settings are not there. Please help if you 
 can. Thanks.
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:08 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 that, my friend, is what we like to call a 'template 8-)
 
 the wizard will ask you to set up the time/key 
 sigs each time you open a new doc with it though. 
 but lots of other settings can be set up to be 
 automatically implemented in any new document by 
 updating your Finale Default Template
 
 In Finale 2012 (on a Mac OS 10.9.5), I want to 
 be able to create new files by using ³Setup 
 Wizard² in the Launch Window. I also want to be 
 able to save specific setting in ³Document 
 Options², such as lyric and text block fonts, 
 time and key signature settings so that whenever 
 I do open Setup Wizard to begin a new project, 
 those settings are already there.
 
 -- 
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 and document options

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
I apologize, I’m just getting more and more confused. What I really need is 
someone to list, one step at a time, from when I open the Finale program, what 
I need to do, using exactly the terminology used in Finale. Sorry I’m not 
understanding this. Not sure if you’d be willing to do this privately.


On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:43 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
wrote:

 
 in programme prefs (cmd-, on mac), in the New 
 tab make sure Default Document is set to use 
 the default template you changed (e.g., Finale 
 2012/Music Files/Default Files/Maestro Font 
 Default.mus).
 
 does that do it?
 
 That¹s what I thought I did (and just tried to 
 do again), but it¹s not working for me.  I¹m 
 sure I¹m doing something incorrectly here. I 
 hate to sound like I¹m totally inept, but I 
 really need someone to list, step by step, what 
 I need to do, with the exact names of where I 
 need to click on to accomplish this. I don¹t see 
 anything that specifically says ³Default 
 Template². When I open Finale, my Launch Window 
 lists, on the upper left hand side:
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 and document options

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
I can’t find any of those thanks to things getting screwed up when I had to get 
a new computer and re-install OS software on my hard drive. My backup files 
from previous computer (document styles folder) are aliases, can’t open up 
document styles folder. Can’t find any of the other things you mentioned here.


On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:

 What you’re looking for is a Document Style. Create a Finale document with 
 all your custom settings, give it a name you’ll recognise and save it in the 
 Document Styles folder. You’ll find this folder in your User Library under 
 Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2014/MusicFiles. (Make sure it’s the 
 User library and not the System Library).
 
 Now when you open the Setup Wizard your style should be visible.
 
 Best wishes,
 Michael
 
 On 11 Nov 2014, at 16:36, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Let my try and clarify what I want to be able to do…
 
 I want to be able to open up a new project in Setup Wizard and have all of 
 my specific settings and libraries there every time. No matter what I do, 
 that’s not happening for me.
 
 Martin
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:
 
 That’s what I thought I did (and just tried to do again), but it’s not 
 working for me.  I’m sure I’m doing something incorrectly here. I hate to 
 sound like I’m totally inept, but I really need someone to list, step by 
 step, what I need to do, with the exact names of where I need to click on 
 to accomplish this. I don’t see anything that specifically says “Default 
 Template”. When I open Finale, my Launch Window lists, on the upper left 
 hand side:
 
 Setup Wizard
 Default Document
 Templates
 
 I went into “Default Document”, changed the document options settings that 
 I want to save, and yet when I close and save this, then open up a new file 
 using setup wizard, my changed settings are not there. Please help if you 
 can. Thanks.
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:08 AM, SN jef chippewa 
 shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
 
 
 that, my friend, is what we like to call a 'template 8-)
 
 the wizard will ask you to set up the time/key 
 sigs each time you open a new doc with it though. 
 but lots of other settings can be set up to be 
 automatically implemented in any new document by 
 updating your Finale Default Template
 
 In Finale 2012 (on a Mac OS 10.9.5), I want to 
 be able to create new files by using ³Setup 
 Wizard² in the Launch Window. I also want to be 
 able to save specific setting in ³Document 
 Options², such as lyric and text block fonts, 
 time and key signature settings so that whenever 
 I do open Setup Wizard to begin a new project, 
 those settings are already there.
 
 -- 
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 and document options

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
Because of the problems I was having with my new computer, I had to erase my 
hard drive and then re-install the system software, so there was nothing on my 
hard drive. I re-installed Finale 2012 from the Make Music website, and that’s 
where I am now. No document styles folder, no user library under application 
support/MakeMusic, etc.


On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:16 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
wrote:

 
 huh?  maybe you didn't copy things over right and 
 your dumbputer is looking to find things on the 
 old machine...
 
 I can¹t find any of those thanks to things 
 getting screwed up when I had to get a new 
 computer and re-install OS software on my hard 
 drive. My backup files from previous computer 
 (document styles folder) are aliases, can¹t open 
 up document styles folder. Can¹t find any of the 
 other things you mentioned here.
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 and document options

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
Back up one step please…when I open up Finale, and I want to set up a new 
template, what do I click on in the Launch Window? Default Document or 
Templates?


On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:15 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
wrote:

 
 no worries.
 
 (assuming all changes you want to have in new 
 docs from now on have been entered in the 
 template...)
 
 open finale
 
 open Finale 2012 MENU, select Preferences (dialogue opens)
 
 click on New tab in left column (should already be selected)
 
 in Default Document field enter Maestro Font Default.mus
 
 click on Folders tab in left column
 
 click on Default Files (button list on right)
 
 manoeuver through your system to select the file found here (on mac):
HD/Library/Application 
 Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2012/Music Files/Default 
 Files/Maestro Font Default.mus
 
 close preferences
 
 take a deep breath or pray or whatever you do in these circumstances.
 
 open a new doc using setup wizard, make sure you 
 select Engraved Stylke for Document style.
 
 yeah?
 
 
 I apologize, I¹m just getting more and more 
 confused. What I really need is someone to list, 
 one step at a time, from when I open the Finale 
 program, what I need to do, using exactly the 
 terminology used in Finale. Sorry I¹m not 
 understanding this. Not sure if you¹d be willing 
 to do this privately.
 
 -- 
 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 and document options

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Banner
Michael…

THANK  YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! This worked finally for me. I do believe 
I’m back in business. I can’t thank you enough (and everyone else as well for 
your patience and suggestions).

Martin


On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:

 Try this:
 
 - In the Finder, choose the “Go” menu.
 - With the menu still open, press the Option (“alt”) key.
 - “Library” should appear in the menu when you press the Option key. This is 
 your user Library. Open it and navigate through the folders  Application 
 Support  MakeMusic  Finale 2012  Music Files. In this folder, save a 
 standard Finale document (doesn’t have to have music in it but won’t be a 
 problem if it does) with all your custom settings. Alternatively you could 
 simply open up the Engraved Style Document that you’ll find in that folder 
 and edit that. 
 
 
 
 On 11 Nov 2014, at 17:09, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I can’t find any of those thanks to things getting screwed up when I had to 
 get a new computer and re-install OS software on my hard drive. My backup 
 files from previous computer (document styles folder) are aliases, can’t 
 open up document styles folder. Can’t find any of the other things you 
 mentioned here.
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:
 
 What you’re looking for is a Document Style. Create a Finale document with 
 all your custom settings, give it a name you’ll recognise and save it in 
 the Document Styles folder. You’ll find this folder in your User Library 
 under Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2014/MusicFiles. (Make sure it’s 
 the User library and not the System Library).
 
 Now when you open the Setup Wizard your style should be visible.
 
 Best wishes,
 Michael
 
 On 11 Nov 2014, at 16:36, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Let my try and clarify what I want to be able to do…
 
 I want to be able to open up a new project in Setup Wizard and have all of 
 my specific settings and libraries there every time. No matter what I do, 
 that’s not happening for me.
 
 Martin
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:
 
 That’s what I thought I did (and just tried to do again), but it’s not 
 working for me.  I’m sure I’m doing something incorrectly here. I hate to 
 sound like I’m totally inept, but I really need someone to list, step by 
 step, what I need to do, with the exact names of where I need to click on 
 to accomplish this. I don’t see anything that specifically says “Default 
 Template”. When I open Finale, my Launch Window lists, on the upper left 
 hand side:
 
 Setup Wizard
 Default Document
 Templates
 
 I went into “Default Document”, changed the document options settings 
 that I want to save, and yet when I close and save this, then open up a 
 new file using setup wizard, my changed settings are not there. Please 
 help if you can. Thanks.
 
 
 On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:08 AM, SN jef chippewa 
 shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
 
 
 that, my friend, is what we like to call a 'template 8-)
 
 the wizard will ask you to set up the time/key 
 sigs each time you open a new doc with it though. 
 but lots of other settings can be set up to be 
 automatically implemented in any new document by 
 updating your Finale Default Template
 
 In Finale 2012 (on a Mac OS 10.9.5), I want to 
 be able to create new files by using ³Setup 
 Wizard² in the Launch Window. I also want to be 
 able to save specific setting in ³Document 
 Options², such as lyric and text block fonts, 
 time and key signature settings so that whenever 
 I do open Setup Wizard to begin a new project, 
 those settings are already there.
 
 -- 
 
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[Finale] Finale 2012 and EVPUs

2014-11-10 Thread Martin Banner
I have been using Finale since version 1.0, and therefore have been trained 
from the very beginning to do all of my measurements in EVPUs. For the last 
several years I have been using Finale 2008 and able to complete all of my 
projects in EVPUs. 

Because my old iMac (OS 10.5.8) died a month ago, I had to buy a new iMac (OS 
10.9.5) and am forced into using Finale 2012 (2008 is no longer compatible with 
Mavericks). When I try to use EVPUs in the Staff Tool to respace staves and 
also change “position staff name”, Finale only shows inches, NOT EVPUs. In Page 
Layout Tool, when I go to “edit system margins”, the boxes show only inches, 
NOT EVPUs.

I spoke to tech support at Make Music/Finale this morning, and they were able 
to re-create my situation. I was told this is indeed a problem, and is as well 
in Finale 2014.  He was going to report it, but had no idea when (or if) there 
might be a fix for this.

YIKES (and totally disappointed and frustrated after almost thirty years of 
using Finale.

Martin
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Re: [Finale] Re(2): Finale 2012 and EVPUs

2014-11-10 Thread Martin Banner
Giovanni,

Can you tell me how/where you set those measurement units?

Thanks,
Martin


On Nov 10, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Giovanni Andreani l...@giovanniandreani.com 
wrote:

 I've got measurements units set to EVPUs on a Mac and don't have your 
 problem, although I have others!
 
 Giovanni
 
 
 
 
 Giovanni Andreani
 
 www.giovanniandreani.com
 
 At least under Finale 2014 Windows that does not occur
 if you set the default measurement units to EVPUs.
 I wonder why this behaviour should be platform dependent.
 
 Jan
 
 Am 10.11.2014 16:41, schrieb Martin Banner:
 I have been using Finale since version 1.0, and therefore have been
 trained from the very beginning to do all of my measurements in EVPUs.
 For the last several years I have been using Finale 2008 and able to
 complete all of my projects in EVPUs.
 
 Because my old iMac (OS 10.5.8) died a month ago, I had to buy a new
 iMac (OS 10.9.5) and am forced into using Finale 2012 (2008 is no longer
 compatible with Mavericks). When I try to use EVPUs in the Staff Tool to
 respace staves and also change position staff name, Finale only shows
 inches, NOT EVPUs. In Page Layout Tool, when I go to edit system
 margins, the boxes show only inches, NOT EVPUs.
 
 I spoke to tech support at Make Music/Finale this morning, and they
 were able to re-create my situation. I was told this is indeed a
 problem, and is as well in Finale 2014.  He was going to report it, but
 had no idea when (or if) there might be a fix for this.
 
 YIKES (and totally disappointed and frustrated after almost thirty
 years of using Finale.
 
 Martin
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[Finale] Finale 2012 and respacing staves

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Banner
I’m running Finale 2012 on an iMac  with OS 10.9.5. I opened up a new project, 
but can’t figure out how to respace the staves in EVPUs. I went to the Document 
options in the document menu, clicked on EVPUs at the bottom of the screen, and 
I still can’t accomplish what I want when I go back to the “Respace Staves” 
tool in the Staff menu. Back in Finale 2008, I never had a problem doing this.

When I go to “Staff Usage”, I don’t seem to be able to do anything either. 
Thanks for any help you can offer me.

Martin


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[Finale] MIDI interface question

2014-11-01 Thread Martin Banner
Has anyone use the MOTU Micro Lite midi interface to run Finale 2012 on an iMac 
(OS 10.9.5)? Any reviews on this product would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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[Finale] Midi interface

2014-10-30 Thread Martin Banner
Can someone recommend a midi interface to use with Finale 2012 on an iMac 
running OS 10.9.5?

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[Finale] PUC midi interface

2014-10-30 Thread Martin Banner
Has anyone used the PUC wireless midi interface between a synthesizer and IMac 
to run Finale? If so, how does it work?

Thanks ,
Martin

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[Finale] iMac and Midi interface question

2014-10-29 Thread Martin Banner
I have a new iMac running Mavericks 10.9.5 and Finale 2012. I have a Yamaha 
MIDI synthesizer connected to my computer by an M-Audio Midisport 2X2. For the 
life of me I can’t figure out how to configure the Midi/Audio at the top menu 
when I open up a file. I used to have this setup connected to my older (now 
dead) iMac using Finale 2008 (I could open those files in 2012). I can’t input 
notes using the speedy note entry now. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for your help…

Martin
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[Finale] Missing text

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Banner
I went from an old iMac (10.5.8) to a new iMac (10.9.5) using Finale 2012. When 
I open an already existing file, all the notes are there, but there is no text 
(I can input notes in the score via MIDI) and playback the sound.

When I try and create a new default file, I can input notes, but I cannot input 
text beneath the notes (the vertical cursor underneath the notes does not move, 
and no text appears when I type).

In text took, when I try to input text into the Lyric Window, nothing appears.

Any clue as to what has happened to the text, why it does not appear, and why I 
can’t input text. Just to clarify, I emailed one of my 2012 files to a friend 
who happens to be an in house editor for a major choral publisher, and he was 
able to open up my file and see the text.

HELP PLEASE!!!


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[Finale] Brand new iMac and Finale question

2014-10-14 Thread Martin Banner
My old iMac from 2008 died and I was forced into buying a brand new iMac, OS X 
10.9.4. I previously used Finale 2008 without any trouble. All of my files (and 
applications) from my old Mac were migrated over from an external hard drive. I 
was able to reconnect my MIDI interface and input notes from my synthesizer to 
a finale 2008 document, and am able to playback using Garritan sounds. All 
seemed fine…EXCEPT…none of the text (lyrics, dynamics) appear when I open 
previous files (although all of the notes are there, and there are hyphens but 
no lyrics). For the heck of it, I created a brand new file successfully, then 
went to lyric tool and added some text. As I type in one syllable at a time, 
that syllable appears, but then disappears. Again, all that remains are some 
hyphens. When I clicked on each note that should have a syllable of text, the 
syllable appears and then vanishes. I went into the pull down menu and went 
into “edit text” (or edit lyrics, whatever it’s called) and there was 
absolutely nothing in the large box. I was unable to type anything directly 
into that box. 

Please help

thanks,
Martin
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[Finale] 18th Century horn question

2014-08-20 Thread Martin Banner
I have a manuscript (combined choral/orchestral score) that has two  
horn in A parts indicated for the piece which is in A major. So  
three sharps for the concert pitch (C) instruments, no signature for  
the horn parts. No problem.

The horn parts are written with a double treble clef, which I  
understand to mean sounding an octave lower than written, similar to  
the tenor voice part that uses a treble clef with an 8 underneath.

The first written pitch in the manuscript is 3rd space C and middle C,  
for the first and second horn parts. Using Finale transposition as  
horn in A, the actual sound is a third below the written. What should  
the actual sound be?

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] 18th Century horn question

2014-08-20 Thread Martin Banner
Raymond,

The first horn part stays between first G above middle C up to second  
E above middle C, and the second horn part goes from middle C up to  
the second D above middle C.  As I responded privately to someone  
about this, I'm wondering if the double treble clef may really be an  
issue here. Both horns are written on a single staff. I also noticed  
that the two oboe parts are written on a single staff and are also  
notated at the beginning of the staff with a double treble clef. I'm  
thinking that the double clefs on both the oboe and horn staff are  
merely to say that there are two different parts written on a single  
staff.

Martin


On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:

 What is the tessitura of the parts?

 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
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 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Lawrence yateslawre...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

 I thought that the horn in a basso was an19th century instrument  
 (used
 mainly in opera) and that I'm the 18thC it would have been alto.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 20 Aug 2014, at 09:39 pm, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:

 There are two types of horn in A: alto (the more common, sounding a
 minor third below the note written) and basso (rare, sounding an  
 octave and
 a minor third below the note written). Maybe the double treble clef
 indicates that a horn in A basso is required, although (as far as I  
 know)
 it would be an unusual way of doing this.

 Michael


 On 20 Aug 2014, at 19:22, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote:

 I have a manuscript (combined choral/orchestral score) that has two
 horn in A parts indicated for the piece which is in A major. So
 three sharps for the concert pitch (C) instruments, no signature  
 for
 the horn parts. No problem.

 The horn parts are written with a double treble clef, which I
 understand to mean sounding an octave lower than written, similar  
 to
 the tenor voice part that uses a treble clef with an 8 underneath.

 The first written pitch in the manuscript is 3rd space C and  
 middle C,
 for the first and second horn parts. Using Finale transposition as
 horn in A, the actual sound is a third below the written. What  
 should
 the actual sound be?

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[Finale] double whole rest question

2014-05-24 Thread Martin Banner
Using Finale 2008...

In 4/2 time, how do I center a double whole rest in a measure. I was  
able to do that years ago, but have forgotten how.

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[Finale] default rest question

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Banner
I am preparing a modern edition of an 18th century choral/orchestral  
work. The last several movements are in cut time (4/2), four beats to  
a measure, half note gets the beat.

Finale uses a whole rest as the default empty measure rest, but I'm  
not sure if this is preferable, or a double whole rest (which is what  
actually is written by the composer in his autograph score). For a  
modern edition, is standard practice for an empty measure in 4/2 time  
a whole rest or double whole rest?

If the concensus is double whole rest, how does one get the double  
whole rest centered in the empty measures?

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Re: [Finale] default rest question

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Banner
Ryan,

I checked the Dolmetsch book, and if I read it correctly, yes, double  
whole rests are the standard in 4/2 time. The piece that I am editing  
is a multimovement work, with the first movement being in 4/4 time,  
and the last movement being the one in 4/2 time. I may have to resort  
to speedy entry and put in the double whole rests. Do you know how I  
can get Finale to center those double whole rests (I did that many  
years ago, but don't remember how I did centered the rests).

Thanks,
Martin


On May 16, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Ryan wrote:

 You're correct that the convention is to use a double whole rest in  
 4/2
 (and possibly some other large meters). I'd say that today that  
 practice is
 somewhat antiquated. Players will instantly understand that they are  
 to
 remain silent for the entire measure if there's a regular whole rest.

 That being said, if you really want the double whole rest as the  
 Default
 Whole Rest in Finale, go to Doc OptionsNotes  RestsRest  
 Characters pop
 up menu. Choose Default Whole Rest. Select the double whole rest  
 character
 (it's in slot 227 on my machine). Note that this will change all  
 default
 whole rests for every measure, regardless of the time signature. If  
 you're
 working in only 4/2, then this is probably OK. AFAIK, there is no  
 way to
 have Finale automatically use double whole rests in 4/2 and regular  
 whole
 rests in all other meters in the same document. You could insert them
 manually as expressions, though.


 On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Gippo Mercoli i...@clubgippo.com  
 wrote:

 I recenty had to solve a similar situation and I discovered (or  
 should I
 had to know?!) that no matter about the time signature, empty bars  
 need
 whole rest.


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 Il giorno 16/mag/2014, alle ore 17:05, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com 
 
 ha scritto:

 I am preparing a modern edition of an 18th century choral/orchestral
 work. The last several movements are in cut time (4/2), four beats  
 to
 a measure, half note gets the beat.

 Finale uses a whole rest as the default empty measure rest, but I'm
 not sure if this is preferable, or a double whole rest (which is  
 what
 actually is written by the composer in his autograph score). For a
 modern edition, is standard practice for an empty measure in 4/2  
 time
 a whole rest or double whole rest?

 If the concensus is double whole rest, how does one get the double
 whole rest centered in the empty measures?

 Thanks,
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[Finale] Horn question

2014-02-09 Thread Martin Banner
I have a choral/orchestral composition (18th Century piece) in the key  
of e minor, one sharp in the key signature for the C instruments and  
voices. The horn part is written for horn in G (sounds a 4th lower  
than written), and therefore there are no sharps or flats in the key  
signature for the horns. Someone has asked if I could provide a Horn  
in F part for them. Do I simply write the part down a whole step from  
G to F?

Thanks in advance for your help, especially from you horn players out  
there.

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Re: [Finale] Horn question

2014-02-09 Thread Martin Banner
Lawrence,

And the key signature for the newly written part for horn in F?

Martin


On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Lawrence Yates wrote:

 Write it one note higher than the written horn in G part.  (C  
 becomes D; E
 becomes F#; G becomes A)

 Cheers,

 Lawrence


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 I have a choral/orchestral composition (18th Century piece) in the  
 key
 of e minor, one sharp in the key signature for the C instruments and
 voices. The horn part is written for horn in G (sounds a 4th lower
 than written), and therefore there are no sharps or flats in the key
 signature for the horns. Someone has asked if I could provide a Horn
 in F part for them. Do I simply write the part down a whole step from
 G to F?

 Thanks in advance for your help, especially from you horn players out
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Re: [Finale] Horn question

2014-02-09 Thread Martin Banner
As a horn player, which would you rather see, accidentals as you go  
along, or a key signature at the beginning? Thanks for sharing your  
expertise.

Martin


On Feb 9, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Lawrence Yates wrote:

 If you are going to add a key signature rather than insert  
 accidentals as
 you go along, it will be 2 sharps.

 Cheers,

 Lawrence


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 Lawrence,

 And the key signature for the newly written part for horn in F?

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[Finale] cut time question

2013-12-08 Thread Martin Banner
In Finale 2008, I have a movement in 4/2 time (marked alla breve). I  
want the time signature to show as cut time, not 4/2. How do I  
accomplish this?

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[Finale] Finale Compatability question

2013-10-14 Thread Martin Banner
I currently use an older iMac running on OS 10.5.8. I connect my  
synthesizer to my Mac with an older M-Audio USB Midisport 2x2 midi  
interface, and generally use Finale 2008 (although I do have, and  
sporadically use, finale 2012).

My iMac is giving me trouble with non Finale things, and so I was  
thinking about upgrading to a new iMac with a current OS. Does anyone  
on the list know, by experience, if Finale 2008 will still work on a  
new iMac OS? Also, will my current midi interface work with the a  
current OS on an iMac?

Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom.

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[Finale] Finale and iPad

2010-06-25 Thread Martin Banner
Does anyone know if it's possible to load a version of Finale onto an  
iPad and run Finale from there?


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[Finale] speedy note entry and brackets

2010-06-07 Thread Martin Banner
I am using Finale 2008 on my iMac. In 4/4 time, I have several  
occurences of a sixteenth note sextuplet on a single beat. Using  
speedy note entry, I hold down the option key and then press the  
number 6, and proceed to enter my 6 sixteenth notes (actually, some of  
these have a sixteenth note rest followed by five sixteenth notes, and  
some have 6 sixteenth notes).


My problem is this...sometimes there appears a broken bracket around  
the 6 (marking that it is a sextuplet), and sometimes the 6 appears  
without the broken bracket around the 6. Anyone know why this is  
happening? I'd prefer to have the broken bracken appear in all  
instances, but can't seem to figure out how to do this.


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[Finale] continued re-authorization requests

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Banner
Within the last two weeks, I have, upon opening up Finale 2008 (which  
I have been using for the last two years), been asked to authorize my  
copy of Finale. I did this when I first started using Finale 2008 on  
my iMac, and did it again two weeks ago. This afternoon, when I booted  
up Finale to do some work, I was asked to authorize my copy. Anyone  
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Re: [Finale] continued re-authorization requests

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Banner
I guess I'll just go through the re-auth whenever it arises, as seldom  
as it does...thanks.



On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Ryan wrote:

It's an OS problem. The newest Mac OS somehow re-sets permissions  
for Finale

2008 (something to do with the Airport card, IIRC). Call MakeMusic and
they'll give you the application that re-sets the permissions.  
You'll have

to re-start your computer though, which is a pain since it disrupts
workflow...


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G'day Martin
This happened to me with FinWin 2004
You have to sign in as administrator.
Stoopid, innit!
David McKay

On 28 April 2010 06:57, Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com wrote:

Within the last two weeks, I have, upon opening up Finale 2008  
(which I
have been using for the last two years), been asked to authorize  
my copy

of
Finale. I did this when I first started using Finale 2008 on my  
iMac, and
did it again two weeks ago. This afternoon, when I booted up  
Finale to do

some work, I was asked to authorize my copy. Anyone getting this

happening

to them?

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Re: [Finale] continued re-authorization requests

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Banner
Can someone tell me how I sign in as adminstrator on my iMac, as David  
McKay suggested below?



On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Ryan wrote:

Well, you're going to run out of authorization slots and you won't  
be able

to use Finale.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com  
wrote:


I guess I'll just go through the re-auth whenever it arises, as  
seldom as

it does...thanks.



On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Ryan wrote:

It's an OS problem. The newest Mac OS somehow re-sets permissions for

Finale
2008 (something to do with the Airport card, IIRC). Call MakeMusic  
and
they'll give you the application that re-sets the permissions.  
You'll have

to re-start your computer though, which is a pain since it disrupts
workflow...


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wrote:

G'day Martin

This happened to me with FinWin 2004
You have to sign in as administrator.
Stoopid, innit!
David McKay

On 28 April 2010 06:57, Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com wrote:

Within the last two weeks, I have, upon opening up Finale 2008  
(which I
have been using for the last two years), been asked to authorize  
my copy



of

Finale. I did this when I first started using Finale 2008 on my  
iMac,

and
did it again two weeks ago. This afternoon, when I booted up  
Finale to

do
some work, I was asked to authorize my copy. Anyone getting this


happening


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Re: [Finale] continued re-authorization requests

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Banner
I just checked, and it looks like I already AM logged in as admin! So  
now what?


Martin



On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:


Martin,

It's in System Preferences, Accounts.  I think you'll find what you  
need there.


Chuck


On Apr 27, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Martin Banner wrote:

Can someone tell me how I sign in as adminstrator on my iMac, as  
David McKay suggested below?



On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Ryan wrote:

Well, you're going to run out of authorization slots and you won't  
be able

to use Finale.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Martin Banner  
mban...@hvc.rr.com wrote:


I guess I'll just go through the re-auth whenever it arises, as  
seldom as

it does...thanks.



On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Ryan wrote:

It's an OS problem. The newest Mac OS somehow re-sets permissions  
for

Finale
2008 (something to do with the Airport card, IIRC). Call  
MakeMusic and
they'll give you the application that re-sets the permissions.  
You'll have
to re-start your computer though, which is a pain since it  
disrupts

workflow...


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Within the last two weeks, I have, upon opening up Finale 2008  
(which I
have been using for the last two years), been asked to  
authorize my copy



of

Finale. I did this when I first started using Finale 2008 on  
my iMac,

and
did it again two weeks ago. This afternoon, when I booted up  
Finale to

do
some work, I was asked to authorize my copy. Anyone getting this


happening


to them?

Martin








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[Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

2010-03-22 Thread Martin Banner
I am writing an editorial preface for one of my editions and want to  
put a natural sign in a paragraph. When I use maestro font and n, I  
get the natural sign, but it appears lower than the rest of the text.  
I have tried increasing the size of the font(no good, still too low),  
as well as using superscript (too high above the rest of the text).  
Any suggestions?


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Re: [Finale] placing a natural sign in microsoft word file

2010-03-22 Thread Martin Banner

And what character(s) should I type in to get the natural sign?


On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Richard Yates wrote:


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Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Banner
I have two computers, one which runs OS 10.3.9, so I can still use my  
Finale 2003 and Microsoft Works files. Can't access either of those on  
my new iMac that runs 10.5.x


Martin



On Mar 15, 2010, at 3:48 PM, J D Thomas wrote:

Andrew, is there a specific reason why you're still at Mac OS  
10.3.9?  That is a pretty old and deprecated OS for Macs, and the  
way tech is today, might it not be better to upgrade?  Otherwise,  
this type of issue will be ongoing for you, methinks.


J D  Thomas
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My 9-yr.-old browsers no longer support most online video, notably  
UTube. I'd like to upgrade to the most recent available versions  
that will run w. my OS (Mac OS 10.3.9), but can't find these on the  
internet. Can anybody help?


My current browsers are Safari 1.3.2 and IE/Mac 5.2

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[Finale] updating

2009-10-04 Thread Martin Banner
Thanks to all of you for your posts on Finale 2010, with and without  
Mac Snow Leopard. Thanks to all of the reported problems, I've decided  
to stay put with Finale 2008 (took me years to upgrade to that from  
Finale 2003) and Mac OSx.5.8.


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[Finale] notating a composer's dates

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Banner
Normally, when a composer's birth and death year are known, I would  
list their dates in the following for in an edition:


1712 - 1781

However, the birth date (including year), other than it being first  
half of the 18th Century, is unknown. How would you list the dates in  
an edition?


b.? - 1781?

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Re: [Finale] notating a composer's dates

2009-09-14 Thread Martin Banner
This composer was active during the second half of the 18th Century  
and died in 1804. There is very little known about this particular  
composer, and I have been in touch with the Italian source most able  
to give me any information about him.


So again, using the 1800-1900 format, how does one list a composer's  
years of living when only the year of death is known?


Martin






On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:22 PM, John Howell wrote:


At 12:37 PM -0400 9/14/09, Martin Banner wrote:
Yes, John ,this IS a simple question! The year of this particular  
composer's birth is unknown. Period. The most reliable information  
available is that this particular composer was born during the  
first half of the 18th Century. Yes, contrary to what you seem to  
imply, I have indeed done my homework in this matter. Thanks for  
the lecture, but you have not answered my question.


No insult intended.  Do you have ANYTHING about when he was active?

John


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Re: [Finale] Mac Leopard Finale 2009 M-Audio

2009-09-12 Thread Martin Banner
Looks like with all the uncertainty about compatibility between Mac  
Snow Leopard and Finale 2008, M-Audio Midisport 2x2 midi interface, my  
HP laserjet printer and Microsoft Office, I guess I'll be staying with  
Mac OS 10.5.8. At least this way I know everything works!


Martin




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It's Avid/Digidesign. I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. It took them
8 months to get ProTools and drivers certified to work on 10.5.
Hopefully it won't be that long but you never know.

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No driver available yet for the M-Audio Key-Rig 49, which connects  
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USB cord.

Will not work.

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[Finale] Finale 2008 Mac Staff Styles problem

2009-09-11 Thread Martin Banner
In a three movement work, I want to change (and show) the names of the  
new staff names at the beginning of the second movement (in the same  
way that the staff names are listed automatically at the very  
beginning of the first movement). I went to the beginning of the  
second movement, clicked on the first staff, first measure with the  
staff tool highlighted, then went into define staff styles, clicked on  
new to create a new staff style, went into edit and named the new  
staff, clicked on staff name in score under items to display, then  
clicked ok.


From there, I kept the first measure in the first stave highlighted,  
then clicked on Apply Staff Style. I clicked on show staff styles and  
show staff style names, and the little thick blue line with the name  
of the staff style appears.


HOWEVER (and here's the problem), the staff name does not appear in  
the left margin as I want it to. I created a new staff style for each  
staff of the second movement in the same way, and everything seems to  
work except that I cannot get the actual staff names to appear in the  
score. What am I doing wrong?


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 Mac Staff Styles problem

2009-09-11 Thread Martin Banner

Darcy,

Thanks! This did the trick! Hope you manage to stay dry in this  
beautiful New York weather!


Regards,
Martin



On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

In your Staff Style, enter the staff name in the *Abbreviated* Staff  
Name field.


Cheers,

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On 11 Sep 2009, at 10:35 AM, Martin Banner wrote:

In a three movement work, I want to change (and show) the names of  
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same way that the staff names are listed automatically at the very  
beginning of the first movement). I went to the beginning of the  
second movement, clicked on the first staff, first measure with the  
staff tool highlighted, then went into define staff styles, clicked  
on new to create a new staff style, went into edit and named the  
new staff, clicked on staff name in score under items to display,  
then clicked ok.


From there, I kept the first measure in the first stave  
highlighted, then clicked on Apply Staff Style. I clicked on show  
staff styles and show staff style names, and the little thick blue  
line with the name of the staff style appears.


HOWEVER (and here's the problem), the staff name does not appear in  
the left margin as I want it to. I created a new staff style for  
each staff of the second movement in the same way, and everything  
seems to work except that I cannot get the actual staff names to  
appear in the score. What am I doing wrong?


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 and new Mac Snow Leopard OS...update

2009-09-03 Thread Martin Banner
Amen, hence my initial post about the compatibility of Finale 2008.  
After years of using (quite happily) Finale 2003, I finally upgraded  
to 2008 two years ago. Plus I bought a 24 iMac. Kinda sad that I  
won't be able to upgrade to Snow Leopard since I plan to keep on using  
Finale 2008 for quite a while.


Martin




On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:16 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:



While I understand that the issues involved are often created by the
OS itself, it still seems to me that every effort should be made to
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[Finale] Finale 2008 and new Mac Snow Leopard OS...update

2009-09-02 Thread Martin Banner
I just spoke to someone at tech support at Finale headquarters, and  
asked them if they had done, or were planning to do any testing to see  
if Finale 2008 would work with the new Mac Snow Leopard OS. The  
gentleman to whom I spoke said their only commitment would be to make  
sure Finale 2010 works perfectly in Snow Leopard. They absolutely  
would not be testing 2008 (and I assume any other version earlier than  
2010) to see if it would work with Snow Leopard. He did say there  
probably would not be a lot of problems, but there was no guarantee of  
that.


If anyone on this list who currently uses Finale 2008 on a Mac, and is  
planning on trying it with Snow Leopard, could they either post to the  
entire list, or privately to me, how things work out? Until I know for  
sure that Finale 2008 will work under Snow Leopard just as it  
presently does for me under OS 10.5.8, I won't be upgrading to Snow  
Leopard anytime soon. And to think it took me years to finally jump  
from Finale 2003 to Finale 2008.


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[Finale] preferences and Finale 2008(mac)

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Banner
Recently I had to trash my preference file after I rearranged the main  
tool palette and Finale kept crashing on me. Now that I trashed my  
preference file, is it possible to take all my preferences from a  
current Finale document and transfer all those settings directly into  
Maestro Font Default file, or do I have to open that up and start  
adding each of my preferences one at a time from scratch into the  
Maestro Font Default file?


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[Finale] Converting Finale 2008 file to pdf - problem

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Banner
I opened up a file in Finale 2008 (for Mac) for which I want to create  
a pdf file. After opening up the file, I went to File, clicked on  
Compile Postscript Listing, then clicked on the compile button when  
the Compile Postscript Listing window came up. I clicked on save. When  
I tried to open the postscript file, I got an error message:


PostScript Conversion Error
The PostScript file Bertoni Credo vocal.ps could be converted to a  
PDF file.



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Re: [Finale] Converting Finale 2008 file to pdf - problem

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Banner
I figured this out on my own, thanks. I had to go to the print  
dialogue box and simply click Print to pdf and voila!


Martin



On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:


I have found a few things that will kill a PDF or EPS file on Mac.

!. Bad font. MIght print and display properly from inside Finale,  
but just won't embed. Usually old fonts (I used to know this, but I  
forgot what the old style of font is that breaks EPS.)


2. Custom arrowheads in Smart Shapes. Even the ones supplied by  
MakeMusic. They just return errors until you are ready to pull your  
hair out. There may be other things in Smart Shapes too, like  
rotated text, that will refuse to embed.


3. An embedded graphic in the Finale file. Once again, I used to  
know exactly which ones broke, but I forgot because I never do it  
any more (would you?)


On a copy of your file, try deleting these items, or try printing to  
file a page range omitting pages with those things, to see if you  
can track down the offending item.


Hope this helps.

Christopher


On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Martin Banner wrote:

I opened up a file in Finale 2008 (for Mac) for which I want to  
create a pdf file. After opening up the file, I went to File,  
clicked on Compile Postscript Listing, then clicked on the  
compile button when the Compile Postscript Listing window came up.  
I clicked on save. When I tried to open the postscript file, I got  
an error message:


PostScript Conversion Error
The PostScript file Bertoni Credo vocal.ps could be converted to  
a PDF file.



Any suggestions for me so that I can get a pdf?

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] 18th Century Horn question

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Banner
That's all well and good for the two outer movements, which are in the  
key of D for this piece. My apologies, but what I neglected to mention  
is that the middle movement of this piece is in Bb major, for horns in  
Bb, still written in alto clef. Does this explanation still hold true  
now?


Martin





On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:52 AM, Lawrence Yates wrote:

I think that was the point I was trying to make right at the start  
of this

discussion.  (I need to learn to express myself more clearly!)

:-)

Cheers,

Lawrence

2009/8/23 Rod McDonald r...@iinet.net.au

and most players won't mind reading it as it is, because if you  
forget

about
the clef and key signature, and imagine it has a treble clef, it  
will look

exactly like a transposed part for horn in D.





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Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 crash

2009-08-23 Thread Martin Banner
Thanks, but as I said before, I won't be messing with the layout of  
the main tool pallette, even though, for the sake of space on the  
screen, I much prefer to drag it so there are only two tools across  
rather than three. I can live with it, beats crashing the program.


Martin



On Aug 23, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote:


At 14:15 -0400 22/08/09, Martin Banner wrote:
I think the crash occured because yesterday, for the first time in  
over a year of using Finale 2008, I decided to re-arrange the main  
tool palette from the 3 across formation to the two across  
formation, and from what I've been told, that was a bug in 2008. So  
now that I have things up and running again, I won't be touching  
the 3 across arrangement of the main tool palette, and hopefully no  
more crashes.


Martin



And the bug persists in Finale 2009, even though I was told by  
MakeMusic support, in writting, it was fixed.


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[Finale] Finale 2008 crash

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Banner
I run Finale 2008 on an iMac, OS 10.5.8...up until this morning,  
everything has been working fine. All of a sudden this morning, when I  
try to launch Finale, it crashes on me. When I try to open a file, or  
open the Finale application, it stops at Initializing Floating  
Windows, the I get the message The Application Finale 2008 quit  
unexpectedly.


I ran disk doctor to correct permissions, etc, and I still can't open  
Finale 2008. Any suggestions? This is really unnerving!


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 crash

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Banner
I think the crash occured because yesterday, for the first time in  
over a year of using Finale 2008, I decided to re-arrange the main  
tool palette from the 3 across formation to the two across formation,  
and from what I've been told, that was a bug in 2008. So now that I  
have things up and running again, I won't be touching the 3 across  
arrangement of the main tool palette, and hopefully no more crashes.


Martin




On Aug 22, 2009, at 12:56 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:



On 2009/08/22(土), at 前10:36, Chuck Israels wrote:

The first thing to do is to delete your Finale preference file. I'm  
pretty sure this file has become corrupted. Restart Finale, and it  
should open without your preferences. You will have to rebuild  
them, after which I suggest keeping a copy of the preference file  
in another location so that, if this reccurs, you can simply  
replace the corrupted file with a clean copy.




I just zip it and leave it next to it.  When crash starts, I  
highlight the pref file, Cmd+Del, then double click on the zipped  
one.  Once it gets to a routine, it isn't that bad :-)



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Re: [Finale] 18th Century Horn question

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Banner


On Aug 21, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Ray Horton wrote:

But how many composers wrote concert pitch horn parts in the score?   
I haven't seen it any where else, but then, I don't deal with the  
MSS too often.


RBH





I have a modern edition (published by Hinshaw Music) of Credo in D a  
8 by Giacomo Puccini senior, the great great grandfather of the  
famous opera composer of the same name (1712-1781), in which the full  
score, in D major, contains horn in G written in concert pitch.


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Re: [Finale] 18th Century Horn question

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Banner
Hinshaw has published well over twenty of my modern performing  
editions of 18th and early 19th Century concerted choral works,  
complete with vocal score, orchestral score and instrumental parts. If  
you click on the second link down below, you can go directly to a  
listing of my editions in the Hinshaw site. Same for Alliance and  
Colla Voce, the first three links below in my signature.


Martin



On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Ray Horton wrote:


Hmm.  What sort of reputation does Hinshaw have in this area?


Interesting, though.


Martin Banner wrote:



I have a modern edition (published by Hinshaw Music) of Credo in D  
a 8 by Giacomo Puccini senior, the great great grandfather of  
the famous opera composer of the same name (1712-1781), in which  
the full score, in D major, contains horn in G written in concert  
pitch.


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[Finale] 18th Century Horn question

2009-08-19 Thread Martin Banner

Are there any 18th Century horn specialists on this list?

I have an autograph manuscript of a combined choral/orchestral work  
from 18th Century Italy. The piece is in D major and the two horn  
parts are written in alto clef. There are two sharps written in for  
the horns, so I will assume these are horns in C. For the first horn,  
the first note (in alto clef) is F#, written on fourth space. For the  
second horn, the first note is D (in alto clef), written on the third  
space. When played as written, will these sound as F# and D right  
above middle C, or will they sound in a different octave? Will a  
trained modern horn player understand how to play this, or should I re- 
notate these two horn parts in treble clef?


Thanks for your wisdom.

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Re: [Finale] 18th Century Horn question

2009-08-19 Thread Martin Banner
Alto clef with two sharps, the piece is in D Major, so the strings  
also have 2 sharps, and so do the horn staves. Wouldn't that make the  
horns in C, not D?


Martin



On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Lawrence Yates wrote:


If I've got this right, alto clef with 2 sharps looks like horn in D
(without the two sharps)

If it's for a modern horn player, write it out in treble!

Cheers,

Lawrence

2009/8/19 Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com


Are there any 18th Century horn specialists on this list?

I have an autograph manuscript of a combined choral/orchestral work  
from
18th Century Italy. The piece is in D major and the two horn parts  
are
written in alto clef. There are two sharps written in for the  
horns, so I
will assume these are horns in C. For the first horn, the first  
note (in
alto clef) is F#, written on fourth space. For the second horn, the  
first

note is D (in alto clef), written on the third space. When played as
written, will these sound as F# and D right above middle C, or will  
they
sound in a different octave? Will a trained modern horn player  
understand
how to play this, or should I re-notate these two horn parts in  
treble clef?


Thanks for your wisdom.

Martin








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Re: [Finale] 18th Century Horn question

2009-08-19 Thread Martin Banner
I hadn't thought about the possibility of the horn parts being written  
out in concert pitch. I have an autograph score of a Credo for double  
chorus and orchestra by Giacomo Puccini senior where he wrote the  
tromba and corni in concert pitch in the full score.


Martin


On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:


Sounds like he was writing the horns out in concert pitch (Graupner
would do that too), but when you look at the parts, they are obviously
in D major. Here's two samples from the same symphony:

http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale

I hope this helps ;)

Thanks
Kim

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wrote:
Alto clef with two sharps, the piece is in D Major, so the strings  
also have
2 sharps, and so do the horn staves. Wouldn't that make the horns  
in C, not

D?

Martin



On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Lawrence Yates wrote:


If I've got this right, alto clef with 2 sharps looks like horn in D
(without the two sharps)

If it's for a modern horn player, write it out in treble!

Cheers,

Lawrence

2009/8/19 Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com


Are there any 18th Century horn specialists on this list?

I have an autograph manuscript of a combined choral/orchestral  
work from
18th Century Italy. The piece is in D major and the two horn  
parts are
written in alto clef. There are two sharps written in for the  
horns, so I
will assume these are horns in C. For the first horn, the first  
note (in
alto clef) is F#, written on fourth space. For the second horn,  
the first
note is D (in alto clef), written on the third space. When played  
as
written, will these sound as F# and D right above middle C, or  
will they
sound in a different octave? Will a trained modern horn player  
understand
how to play this, or should I re-notate these two horn parts in  
treble

clef?

Thanks for your wisdom.

Martin








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Re: [Finale] cut and paste clip file problem

2009-06-28 Thread Martin Banner
I didn't realize the part about using the filter, but I found it, used  
it, and was able to copy what i needed from one document to another.  
Thanks.


Martin





On Jun 28, 2009, at 12:22 PM, terry cano wrote:



I'm on a PC so the commands maybe different...
1.  R U using the filter?  If so make sure it is checked for the  
elements U want to copy.
2.  I highlight the part and select copyI don't save itI  
choose from the Window menu the other score or part...open it and  
paste the part.

Hope this helps
Terry

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From: Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com
Subject: [Finale] cut and paste clip file problem
To: Finale finale@shsu.edu
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 12:25 PM
Using Finale 2008 on a Mac...

I want to create a clip file from one document and paste it
into a new document. Here's what I used to do in Finale
2003a that always worked:

1. highlight the violin 1 part, hold down option key, go to
edit menu and  click on copy to clip file, to create a
clip file of this part, name the clip file and save it
to desktop.

2. open new file, highlight the new empty stave where I
want to copy the clip file to, hold down option key, go to
edit menu, click on paste clip file


In 2008, when I go to paste the original file's music into
the new file empty staff, I don't get anything to appear.
What am I doing wrong?

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[Finale] finale 2008 garritan sound/smart synth setup question

2009-06-27 Thread Martin Banner
In Finale 2008 on my Mac, I just created a new file and have begun  
inputting notes. I just realized, after playing back the file, that I  
neglected during the setup procedure to pull down to the Garritan  
sounds (instead I ended up with smart synth sounds, or whatever  
they're called). Is there some easy way I can change this so that the  
playback is with the Garritan sounds? Or do I have to create a whole  
new file and remember to pull down to the Garritan tab when choosing  
instruments?


Thanks,
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[Finale] cut and paste clip file problem

2009-06-27 Thread Martin Banner

Using Finale 2008 on a Mac...

I want to create a clip file from one document and paste it into a new  
document. Here's what I used to do in Finale 2003a that always worked:


1. highlight the violin 1 part, hold down option key, go to edit menu  
and  click on copy to clip file, to create a clip file of this part,  
name the clip file and save it  to desktop.


2. open new file, highlight the new empty stave where I want to copy  
the clip file to, hold down option key, go to edit menu, click on  
paste clip file



In 2008, when I go to paste the original file's music into the new  
file empty staff, I don't get anything to appear. What am I doing wrong?


Thanks,
Martin
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[Finale] Finale 2008 % issue on last page of a score

2009-06-18 Thread Martin Banner
On Finale 2008 on my Mac, I am doing a two stave keyboard part  
(continuo realization). I did a save as from my full orchestral  
score, added a blank staff above the cello/string bass part at the  
bottom of the score, then deleted all the wind, string and voice  
parts, leaving me with the two stave keyboard part that I wanted. I  
set the entire file to 82% size (my stats, not the issue here). For  
some unknown reason, on the last page with six systems, the first  
three systems are the size I want (same size as all previous pages),  
but the last three systems on this page are considerably smaller in  
print (I'm in page view).


I can't figure out why this is happening (I even deleted these  
measures and started to speedy note in the music again, thinking it  
would solve my problem). Anyone have any suggestions?


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Re: [Finale] Re: Got Finale 2010 today.

2009-06-10 Thread Martin Banner

So is there a really good reason for me to upgrade from 2008?

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Re: [Finale] Re: Got Finale 2010 today.

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Banner
I usually get an email directly from the folks at Finale, and I  
haven't received anything from them about any offer, or even about  
Finale 2010 period. So much for  a free t-shirt :-)


Martin



On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:04 PM, dhbailey wrote:


Daniel Wolf wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:00:08 +0200, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:
Thanks -- I did bite the bullet and order this upgrade, having  
passed up Fin2009, and am hopeful that I haven't flushed $100 down  
the toilet
I signed in today to check on the upgrade (from Finale 2009) and  
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Re: [Finale] Re: Got Finale 2010 today.

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Banner
Since I was away in Italy doing some research for two weeks, I missed  
out on the earlier discussion. I am presently using Finale 2008, with  
good results. Are there significantly good reasons for me to upgrade  
to 2010?


Martin



On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:

I dunno,  07 has been pretty tractable for me ... enough so that I  
have resisted any upgrades until yesterday.  Hmmm ...


Dean

On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote:

Hey!  Right now I'm drinking out of the beautiful cobalt-blue  
Finale pseudo-pilsner-style glass I got when upgrading back in  
'02?  '03?   It's gotta be a collector's item.  Just imagine all  
its sibling glasses that were hurled across rooms to be smashed to  
pieces all over the world shortly after their owners encountered  
the bugs of '04, '05, '06, '07, '08well, you get the picture.   
And believe me: I've been tempted at times


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So much for  a free t-shirt :-)


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Re: [Finale] Linked Parts

2009-02-23 Thread Martin Banner

not for free anymore...

:-(


On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:


But but...they have T-Shirts man! Come on!

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wrote:



On 23.02.2009 Robert Patterson wrote:

And this not to mention all the critical features that cannot be  
different
in score and part that yet must be: special tool adjustments and  
hairpin

widths are the two most obvious.


Actually, the latter is the one that really shocks me somewhat.  
Even if I
still have to keep two files in the end production process I would  
still

very much welcome completely independently adjustable hairpins.

To be honest, hairpins are still a nightmare area in Finale anyway.  
That

and Cues, which I still find rather badly implemented.

Alas, MakeMusic has stopped listening to my complaints...

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Re: [Finale] O. T. Bach Icon

2009-01-22 Thread Martin Banner
Yes, it does spell B-A-C-H, with B in German being Bb, and H in German  
being B natural (as in Bach's Messe in H-moll, or Mass in B minor)


Martin




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Good Day:

There is a symbol used of Bach's name in a cross shaped icon, you  
can see here:


http://www.bachakademie.de/

On the Bach Yahoo list, someone mentioned that BIS  Records uses this
symbol, but I'm at work and
I don't have a CD handy. But the question was raised, was this symbol
from the 18th century?
Does anyone have more information on it? I'd be most grateful.

Doesn't this icon spell Bach's name in musical notation or am I  
mistaken?




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Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Martin Banner
Wow, even I mentioned this fact as a major event to my high school  
music history class!


Martin



On Jan 20, 2009, at 2:02 PM, arabu...@cowtown.net wrote:

I would look askance at any history class dealing with music of this  
time

period that didn't include this fact. Then again, as a former trombone
player, it is a red-letter event which we all celebrate!

ajr


Ah, thank you sir. That was a fact which escaped my undergrad Music
History class ... or, more likely, I was gone that day, enjoying the
many allurements of the greater Tucson, AZ environs.

Dean

On Jan 19, 2009, at 10:36 PM, arabu...@cowtown.net wrote:


Beethoven 5 is usually considered the first appearance in a
symphony of
trombones, contrabassoon, and piccolo. The contrabassoon mostly
doubles
the string bass parts. When my community orchestra played  
Beethoven 5

years ago the contra was just left out, and not missed. Another
community
orchestra gave the part to a tuba.

ajr


Speaking of bassoons, I went to a symphony concert this weekend,
wherein was performed Beethoven 5.  Included in the instrumentation
was a Contra Bassoon, which was used only (as best I could see) in
the last movement, doubling the Third Bone part.  I don't  have a
score to the work, so can anyone tell me if that is a standard
instrumentation, or an edition of which I've not heard before, or
perhaps the conductor  just wanted the bass sound reinforced?

Thanks in advance,

Dean

On Jan 19, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:



On Jan 19, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:


On Mon, January 19, 2009 2:39 pm, Robert Patterson wrote:

Can the down-arrowhead be an outline for a dotted-half value?


I don't know. He only identifies the solid version of each  
symbol,

which
is typical throughout the book. Since the book is 1966 (DE) 1972
(EN), I'd
imagine things might have been clarified since.

Dennis



Speaking as a bassoonist, I can assure you that any notation  you
use will be unfamiliar, and so *must* be accompanied with a verbal
instruction such as reed only or the like. As a composer, I  
would

use X-shaped noteheads, add the instruction with reed only, and
place the notes on the middle line of the staff. On any subsequent
recurrences, I would shorten the instruction just to reed. If I
wanted the buzz to vary in pitch, I would eliminate the staff  
lines

and place the various (X-shaped) noteheads at higher or lower
levels within the blank space.

I would use this same notation for the oboe, and for clarinet/sax/
brass mouthpiece played alone (except of course that the
instruction would be mouthpiece alone).

Andrew Stiller
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Canto ergo sum

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Re: [Finale] Full measure rests

2008-12-30 Thread Martin Banner
TG Tools  Modify rests  Shift rests  Center whole measure rests in  
measure  double whole rests


This seems to do the trick for me quite easily! Thanks to all for  
their suggestions.


Martin





On Dec 30, 2008, at 2:01 AM, dc wrote:


Martin Banner écrit:

Thanks, but I will be keeping the note values as they are, so I still
don't have a solution to my original question of how to center a
double whole rest in a measure of 4/2, acting as the default rest.


My solution is to use an expression centered in the measure and to  
hide the original rest with a staff style.


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Re: [Finale] Full measure rests

2008-12-29 Thread Martin Banner
Thanks, but I will be keeping the note values as they are, so I still  
don't have a solution to my original question of how to center a  
double whole rest in a measure of 4/2, acting as the default rest.


Martin



On Dec 25, 2008, at 3:57 PM, John Howell wrote:


At 12:58 PM -0500 12/25/08, Martin Banner wrote:
This piece, by Domenico Cimarosa, is for SATB choir, two trombe,  
two oboes, violins, celli and bass.


Well, the problem would go away, of course, if you chose to reduce  
the note values by half and notate it in 4/4.  Which I would  
seriously consider if I were making the edition for my own musicians.


John


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[Finale] Full measure rests

2008-12-25 Thread Martin Banner
I am working on an 18th Century edition from an autograph manuscript  
(dated 1769). The final movement of this choral/orchestral work is a  
fugue in cut time (4/2 time). Although the autograph manuscript  
notates a full measure rest with a double whole rest, I was wondering  
if I should use that in a modern edition or go with the Finale default  
whole rest for a blank measure.


Also, if I use the double whole rest for a blank measure, the rest is  
all the over to the left. How would I go about centering the double  
whole rest?


By the way, I'm using Finale 2008 on an iMac.

Thanks.

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Re: [Finale] Full measure rests

2008-12-25 Thread Martin Banner
This piece, by Domenico Cimarosa, is for SATB choir, two trombe, two  
oboes, violins, celli and bass.


Martin



On Dec 25, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:


Do the rests retain their positioning in the parts if you use TGTools?
And would this not also break up multimeasure rests? (The expression
approach does neither, although the expressions must be manually
hidden the parts as needed.)

Obviously, if it is music with no parts (e.g., choral music) then the
above present less of a concern.

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com  
wrote:


TGTools! Modify | | Shift Rests.


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Re: [Finale] Full measure rests

2008-12-25 Thread Martin Banner
I suppose I could put in two whole rests in such measures, but that is  
just not as professional looking as the single double whole rest. What  
would happen if I entered a whole rest first (then making it  
invisible), then a double whole rest on the third beat (and when the  
dialogue box comes up asking me if i want to leave the measure as is  
or tie it over into the next measure, telling it to leave as is).  
Would this mess up playback or spacing?


Martin



On Dec 25, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:


At 12:52 PM 12/25/2008, Robert Patterson wrote:
Do the rests retain their positioning in the parts if you use  
TGTools?


Sadly, no. TGTools appears to figure out how wide the measure is and  
apply an EVPU offset to the rest. The offset is the same in score  
and parts, so if there are different measure widths, or if you later  
change measure widths, you're out of luck.


And would this not also break up multimeasure rests?

Well, simply entering the double whole rest breaks MM rests,  
regardless of what you do with the positioning.


Sorry, I guess I was just answering the detail question of how to  
position the rest, not really thinking about the larger issues.


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Re: [Finale] Full measure rests

2008-12-25 Thread Martin Banner

I'm using Finale 2008 on an iMac


On Dec 25, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:


The double-whole would not likely be aligned properly even then. When
it serves as a full-meas rest it should be graphically centered
between the barlines. Plus, unless you are using a pre-Fin04 version,
using expressions would be much easier. I would recommend using
TGTools if your Finale version is earlier than Fin04.

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com  
wrote:

What would
happen if I entered a whole rest first (then making it invisible),  
then a

double whole rest on the third beat

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