Re: winter shod

2000-01-21 Thread Alison Barr
This message is from: Alison Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I was always told that the reason not to shoe in the winter was that
they get really bad snowballs.  I heard (second hand) about a horse that
 god bad enough snowballs that he lay down and wouldn't get up until
they pulled his shoes.
For those thinking of relieving the problem using pads, remember that
the hoof can't breathe, and if you get a lot of melting you could have a
thrush problem when you pull the pads.  Besides, I don't think that a
lot of Fjords need shoes to work.  Fj has never worn them, and will only
start this year, for increased action in dressage.



Re: winter shod

2000-01-21 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jean I have not shod my horses for some time but for three trims I pay $45.
Pretty cheap but I think he is being kinder to long time customers.



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes & Noble Book Stores



Re: Redford / join hands

2000-01-21 Thread Joanna Crell
This message is from: Joanna Crell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 Dear Sheri and Harold,>
>whoaa, I was so sorry to hear about your stroke. what a scarey thing.
I had a stroke when I was thirty, (I'm 42 now) and I know how many millions
of thoughts flood your mind. I am doing what I do now perhaps because of
it,beyond having a sister with disabilities, my own attitude towards
wellness, healing and the future was changed when I felt my freedom
jeopardized. Having something so weirdly  tangeble yet mysterious involve
your body AND your families lives is humbling, it is a time when you become
brave although you feel as powerless as a baby. Compassion is a good friend
in every form and will heal you from the inside out. Its the remembering to
breath part, how to have a quiet mind while realities  seem so magnified.
Everyone of us truly is capable of understanding and finding inner strength
to give when confronted by the assault of illness, pain or grief in others,
its harder to nurture yourself.  Hope is what gives you  inner peace.
Amazing how your soul and your mortality are deeply private and are so
shared.  
Please feel the warmth and loving wishes of everyone here (each house, farm
and fellow)  I know that this  is a living connection. When one of us
needs, many will help. I love seeing the caring communication between
people here, this is a circle of friends that could be a global example.
Take care everyone,  Joanna  
===
Joanna Crell - David Folger
Willowind Therapeutic Horseback Riding Center
Phone & FAX (207) 288-9506




Re: aussie saddles

2000-01-21 Thread Don & Jane Brackett
This message is from: Don & Jane Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We just got a sale flyer from Libertyville Saddle, (they have a web site
somewhere) and they had some of the more expensive aussie saddles at 50%
off, sale price around $500.  Don't know if they are good ones or not.
Jane in Maine where it is blizzarding! (if that's a word) with wind
chills of 40 below.



Re: Easy Boot Application

2000-01-21 Thread Karen McCarthy

This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>






This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I have no doubt that Karen* could make the boots stay on anything,
especially in relatively flat, dry Nevada.


Just a little reminder, repeat after me: basin AND range, basin AND 
range... and we're drowning in mud  :~}


Karen McCarthy, in Carson City, where we keep all our 'using' horses shod - 
too many rocks!


*(not this Karen!)
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Re: self cleaning barns

2000-01-21 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

dear bill, no just a nurse.



Re: Saddles

2000-01-21 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Paula, I saw this saddle at a boarding barn where my friend had taken her
thoroughbred for training.  The trainer rode the thoroughbred with the
saddle, finished, placed the saddle on a small Arab and went back into the
ring.  I was impressed.  It is also light weight.



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes & Noble Book Stores



Re: self cleaning barns

2000-01-21 Thread wcoli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

dear julie,
that's gross  but our old dog, blue, a blue-eyed cowdog/pit bull mix and
the best dog ever,  used to hang with the horses just to "catch a steamer,"
as my husband calls them.  they must taste good, because he seemed to relish
them.  sadly he died last august and we miss him terribly.  our two cairn
terriers don't seem to to interested.  one of them likes the goat raisans
though.  denise in SUNNY AND BREEZY, mokelumne hill, calif.

Denise, and you were commenting about MY NAME. Do I detect a 
fecal fetish here? [:o)



Re: winter shod

2000-01-21 Thread FJORDING
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 Haven't had shoes on Lars in the 8 years I've had him. This year I took the 
shoes off the Icelandic also, to see how he does without them. Merek



Re: aussie saddles

2000-01-21 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

dear bill,
just about as bad as my family name of moroni.  but my grandfather did'nt
change it when he came over from italy.  so in grade school, my brother and
i were known as the "macaroni twins."  denise



Re: winter shod

2000-01-21 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

dear jean,
no shoes in winter here.  for quinn, no shoes in summer.  he does fine
without, though this year he will get more riding, so we will see.  as for
knute, he is ouchy on the hard packed clay and rocks in my area, so he get
summer shoes.  he was slipping some , so we put a dab of borium on them and
they worked great.  my farrier charges $15.00 per horse to trim only and
$60.00 for regular shoes and a trim.  if borium is added, it is $5.00 more
per shoe.   denise in sierra foothills.



Saddles

2000-01-21 Thread Paula Steinmetz
This message is from: Paula Steinmetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Has anyone tried the Ansur saddle yet?? Looks like
a cross between a dressage saddle and a leather
bareback pad to me.  It can be seen
at...http://www.ansursaddle.com/ for those who
haven't seen one. The web page states it is
"treeless" - fits any horse build(?) and comes
with safety stirrups (h!). I'm going to try
one on Sunday - I've located an owner (in my own
barn!) who is willing to let me "test ride" hers.
Since it appears to be unstructured, it looks like
it may be more comfortable than a standard saddle
- but I'm guessing here.  Anyone tried one yet?



Re: Our Experiences

2000-01-21 Thread Anita Unrau
This message is from: Anita Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Upon reading yesterdays list, I thought I would comment on what we
> have learned over the years.

We are feeding irrigated Alfalfa again this year. We get a couple of B
trains from Alberta and our Fjords as well as all the other various
horses do very well on it. We have found that we can feed about 9 lbs.
per horse per feeding with good quality hay compared to last year
using local hay and having to fed twice as much hay per feeding for
maintaince. The horses that are being worked get fed more when the are
in the barn during the day and everyone gets turned out at night. All
the TB's and TB X's are in Paddocks and the Fjords other then the
stallions are all in big pastures. The weanlings and yearling are the
only one with a run in shed. All the other outside horses have trees
for protection. We are very fortunate in having dry snow and very
little wind. My daughter has to keep a blanket on her TB eventing
horse as he uses up to much energy staying warm. We have fed Alfalfa
every winter for about 20 years. Do like an orchard grass mix with it
if available. This year have about 10% orchard grass in the 100#
bales.

Orville does not like to drive any horse unless they have shoes on.
His opinion is that the horse must be paying attention to what is
asked of him and not worrying about slipping, rocks, sore feet, etc.
During the winter of 85-86 a man by the name of Buck Jenkins came out
to do an article for the Sons of Norway magazine "Viking". He had been
to several places in the east and was doing some stories on the Fjord.
He wanted a bunch of pictures of Orville using the horses around the
farm. Orville hooked up George and Harvey and went to go out with the
sleigh and when he got to the gate that was real icy George and Harvey
refused to go through. This had never happened before so Orville
thought about it for a minute and turned around and went back to the
barn. Unhooked and put shoes on George and Harvey. Because he was
driving colts that winter he had taken off their pulling shoes with
big corks and left them barefoot. They had always had shoes with
borium for all the work they had done and were not about to change
things now. After putting their winter shoes on, we hooked back up and
they drove through the gate as though there was no ice. They taught us
that it was important for them to work with secure footing. George and
the three kids unloading bedding from the barn made the front cover.

I checked out the webb page for the US Marine art. Again back in the
early 80's we were told there are pictures at the army base in Calgary
of the Canadian Army on winter manoeuvres in Norway. They would race
each other to a mountain top and the first one with camp set up won.
The Norwegians consistenly would win with their Fjord horses on
snowshoes packing everything up the mountain. The Canadians would use
Bombadiers or early snowmobiles. We were sorry to hear when the
Norwegian Army quite using horses.

Top Canadian CDE competitiors, David and Christi Wharton have a
beautiful barn set up in Kendal, Ont. Each box stall has a trap door
that opens up to the underbarn conveyor belt that dumped all the
bedding and manure behind the barn into the manure spreader. It takes
just a few minutes to pick each stall and dump into the trapdoor.
Christi had a choice between a new kitchen or the easier barn chores.
Horses do tend to come first don't they.

Our experiences with meadowbrooks has not been good. Sam was about 15
when we were at a Bill Long clinic in Washington state. She used her
gelding Anvil's Klipper and the two wheeled cart for her lesson and
after it was done her Dad took Klipper out practising hazards. On the
flat at a good trot in a hard turn the cart flipped over. The next day
Cathy Shives with their gelding Anvil's Ryder did the same thing in a
flat hazard on a hard turn. That is when Orville started designing
four wheel carriages. He said our daughter is not going to be
competing in a two wheeled vehicle. Funny how small things can make
big changes. Rattled on enough.

Anita Unrau
Anvil's Acres Norwegian Fjords
"Disposition, Conformation, Versatility"



Re: Easy Boot Application

2000-01-21 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.greatbasin.net/~sportssaddle/Easyboot.html
>
> Marsha - do you think even these methods would have held an easy 
> boot on draft-shaped feet?

Depends

I have no doubt that Karen could make the boots stay on anything,
especially in relatively flat, dry Nevada.  Whether *I* could make
them stay on in the steep, clay-mud slime I have to deal with is
unclear.  ;-)

Sleepy is very "talented" at stepping on anything that trails behind
his front hooves.  He has even managed to remove nailed-on shoes, when
the farrier left a smidge too much pad sticking out behind!  (He's OK
in the summer; it's winter mud and cooped-in-the-corral-too-long
"enthusiasm" that usually do in shoes.)

However, yes, Easy Boots do stay on him a little better if I put a
"sock" on under them (in my case, gauze wrap and duct tape).  But,
IMHO, that takes the "easy" out of using boots

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif.



Re: aussie saddles

2000-01-21 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

dear wcoli,
sorry everytime i see your address i think of e. coli.  nasty intestinal
bacteria, anyway, in regards to the saddle.  try aussie stock saddles out of
malibu.  they have lighter ones to and will measure and make a saddle to fit
any horse, guarrenteed.  denise



Re: winter shod

2000-01-21 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Alison, we use rim snow pads which leave the bottom of the foot open.  the
"HUF-GRIP" brand ia rim pad with a hollow tube which sets just inside of
the shoe and it is attached to the flat portion which fits between the shoe
and the hoof to hold it in place...nailed on along with the shoe.  These
work very well to pop the snow out, and also afford more traction than the
full pads.  Winter shoes have borium on them to give some traction.
Putting the proper amount of borium in the right place is an art and many
farriers in the warmer states/provinces don't have much experience with it.
We don't want too much "stick" but enough to keep from slipping on ice.

My two geldings have shoes on in the winter: Old Bjarne because he had lot
of trouble with his feet when he had a bad shoulder infection and we have
worked hard to get them in shape...His heels break down and get under-run
without shoes and he is tender footed.  Bjorken, My 15-2 hand gelding has
rather flat feet that flare and his heels also tend to break down.  Besides
I like to ride him in the winter and it is much safer with the borium shoes
and pads in our 6 months of snow and ice.

The two mares, Stella and Anvil's Adel have wonderful feet, very well
shaped a nice domed sole and don't generally need shoes.  I have put shoes
on Stella but I may never shoe Adel.  (Mary, they have Line's wonderful
feet!) However, they do get snowballs in some snow conditions and I have to
hack  the snow out with the claw side of a claw hammer.  Another advantage
of the Borium and Rim Pads!

The rim pads, unfortunately, would not last long if the horses ran on
gravel or dry hard ground.  This is the reason I generally wait until snow
falls in October before putting the borium and rim pads on them. So altho
this system works great up here in my conditions it might not be as good in
your conditions...It all depends on the conditions where you are. The rim
pads we used this year are still good from last year.  The newer ones that
are the translucent plastic seem to hold up better than the black neoprene
or rubber ones we used before.

BTW, what does everybody pay for shoeing?  My farrier does a regular
shoeing (summer plates, no pads, no special clips,etc.) for $50 and trims
for $25. Hi will come out and remove shoes that get bent, etc and replace
them for no cost.  He reset the winter borium shoes and pads also for $50
but has to charge extra when he makes a new pair of borium shoes and
provides new pads.  A set of 4 pads will cost $35 so new borium shoes and a
new set of pads will run me about $100 per horse.  The pads generally last
the whole winter, maybe two, and the shoes usually last through two
winters.  He sometimes has to apply a little more borium and adjust the
shape.  Also, when the nail holes wear too big he will have to make a new
shoe.  Mine will require new borium shoes the next time, but this setting
may last until spring..Their hooves grow very little this time of year and
we don't run on pavement.

I hope this explains our winter shoeing system...I'm sure it varies from
place to place due to different conditions.

Alison, I'm wondering why they had to pull the shoes on that horse that was
down..why not just knock out the snow balls to get him up?

Jean in balmy Fairbanks, Alaska, another +25F degree day...Shirt sleeve
weather!

At 12:55 PM 1/21/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>This message is from: Alison Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I was always told that the reason not to shoe in the winter was that
>they get really bad snowballs.  I heard (second hand) about a horse that
> god bad enough snowballs that he lay down and wouldn't get up until
>they pulled his shoes.
>For those thinking of relieving the problem using pads, remember that
>the hoof can't breathe, 

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: poop

2000-01-21 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have three piles of poop going, so the first one has time to melt down and
go on the yard or other low places.  We have so much rain that the ground
always seems to be shifting or washing away so plenty of spots to cover,
Exposed tree roots etc.  I am lucky to live on a 75 foot bank and so all
limbs, cuttings and other vegetation goes over the bank.  I constantly add
dirt to the edge of the bank to keep it from eroding.  Seems to me it takes
about two years for the composting of a high (eight foot) pile.  Jean



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes & Noble Book Stores



Re: winter shod

2000-01-21 Thread Carl & Sarah Nagel
This message is from: "Carl & Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Trims in this area are $15.00 and $35 for shoes.   Very reasonable prices,
excellent care and information from my farrier.   I don't know how much the
borium winter shoes and pads would run, but I would expect to pay more since
there is so much added time involved for the farrier.  Right now all three
are barefoot, actually only one of the three has ever worn shoes.

I contemplated a pair of winter shoes for Ori, but decided that I probably
wouldn't ride enough to make the cost worthwhile.  We have three feet of
standing snow right now and I haven't even been tempted to ride!  It's
wy to cold for me.  LOL

Sarah Nagel
Sandpoint, ID
-Original Message-
From: Jean Gayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com 
Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: winter shod


>This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Jean I have not shod my horses for some time but for three trims I pay $45.
>Pretty cheap but I think he is being kinder to long time customers.
>
>
>
>Jean Gayle
>Aberdeen, WA
>[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
>Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
>http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
>Barnes & Noble Book Stores
>
>
>



MWFHC Winter Meeting/Clinic

2000-01-21 Thread Dave Walter
This message is from: "Dave Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just a friendly reminder that the due date for the MWFHC Winter Meeting and
Driving Clinic with Sharon Makaurat in Galena IL,
is Feb. 1st.  All dues must be paid by Feb. 1st as well.  If anyone needs a
registration form you may e-mail Pat Holland at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
call her at 815 777-6008.  She told me this is going to be the greatest
event since the birth of Christ.  Well I don't know about you but his is
highest on my list, so I'm counting on a great clinic/meeting.  There still
is time to get in on this great event, but do get your forms in.
Patti in Wisconsin, looked warm outside, but it wasn't.  Sunny and sub zero
today.



Re: aussie saddles

2000-01-21 Thread charlotte Hoek

This message is from: "charlotte Hoek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Can someone give me an address of a place to price/buy one of
the Aussie saddles that have been mentioned?


Hi This my first time on the list, maybe this address can help you out:

http://www.australian-gs.com.au/syd_hill/entrance/frame.htm

Charlotte Hoek
(the netherlands)
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Re: aussie saddles

2000-01-21 Thread wcoli
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> This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> dear wcoli,
> sorry everytime i see your address i think of e. coli.  nasty intestinal
> bacteria, 

Denise, 
Rest assured, unlike my namesake, I am  non-pathogenic. My 
family's "real" name (when my Dad's folks came over from italy) 
was Coccoli (sounds like Coke-o-lee). Apparently, my older brother 
used to take a lot of ribbing in grade school, and my folks decided 
to shorten it before I was born. Unfortunately, they didn't realize 
that they were choosing the species name for a common 
bacterium found in feces. And yes, I have heard that it's at least 
good that my first name wasn't Edward [:o).
Thanks for the reference on the saddle.

Bill



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20

2000-01-21 Thread GailDorine
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 1/20/00 9:16:53 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< SORRY GAIL YOU THOUGHT THE "VANITY" MOMENT WAS SUCH A WASTE!!
 > >>
It wasn't me.  Gail Dorine who also thinks she's the only Gail.  the only 
other one in school was a boy, spelled the same way.



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20

2000-01-21 Thread wcoli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I thought the vanity moment was funny, but can't get over the 
feeling that the host was inserting some sort of "cookie", worm or 
other software that will cause problems down the road or send 
information about me to Bill Gates, Moammar Kaddafy, Jesse 
Helms or some other dangerous fanatic. Hope I'm wrong, but (and 
maybe more knowledgeable computer types can tell me if this is 
possible/accurate) I wonder if "having your picture taken" isn't like 
clicking on an "executable" (.exe).



Re: self cleaning barns

2000-01-21 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

dear julie,
that's gross  but our old dog, blue, a blue-eyed cowdog/pit bull mix and
the best dog ever,  used to hang with the horses just to "catch a steamer,"
as my husband calls them.  they must taste good, because he seemed to relish
them.  sadly he died last august and we miss him terribly.  our two cairn
terriers don't seem to to interested.  one of them likes the goat raisans
though.  denise in SUNNY AND BREEZY, mokelumne hill, calif.



Fjord feet

2000-01-21 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Farrier was just here - inspecting various horsey feet.  He looked at Luisa
and her colt (Odin, now 8 months) and pointed out that he believes that  the
4 week trimming schedule Odin is on accounts for the fact that he has more
rounded feet - better quality - than his mother.  (He looks like one of
those Fjords who will never need shoes right now).  

Can anyone else verify from their experience that consistent trimming when
young yields better feet, long term?

Allison - there are bad Fjord feet.  Some are too drafty shaped - and ouchy
when not shod.  Gunthar's fronts have to be kept shod, even on pasture, or
they spread out terribly. 
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net



Re: Drains

2000-01-21 Thread Lori Albrough
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Denise Delgado wrote:

> thanks becky for your comments. your barn sounds great.  i think i'll try a
> dirt floor, topped with gravel then with rubber mats over.  any water can go
> through the cracks or out the edge.  

I have the Groundmaster mats, laid over stone dust in the stalls. The mats
are made of a sort of lightly pebbled plasticy stuff with holes in, like an
egg carton, the edges of the holes extend down a bit into the stone dust.
The wet drains away very well. I like them a lot. The mats come in one piece
which is sized to your stall so no seams, they are held down by pins you
drive through a few of the holes all around the edges.

The only downside is if you bed with straw, as in a foaling stall, the
little foal feet can go down through the straw and make contact with the mat
which is a bit slippery when they are cantering around the stall. So, in the
foaling stalls I used rubber mats, which I also laid over packed stone dust.

I got the Groundmaster mats from a company in Michigan, they advertise in
the back of horse magazines.

Lori A.



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20

2000-01-21 Thread GailDorine
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 1/20/00 9:16:53 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Always thought " Ride, Till He's Dun " would be cute also.
  >>
I dunno about that.



Re: aussie saddles

2000-01-21 Thread wcoli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can someone give me an address of a place to price/buy one of 
the Aussie saddles that have been mentioned?



Re: Turlock auction

2000-01-21 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> What are the dates of the Turlock Draft horse sale and auction please?   

Good question.

The Northern California Driving Club's newsletter says it's March 9-10.

Driving West says April 7-8.

They both agree that one should contact Merlin Carlson at 209-668-1011
for details.

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif.



Re: Drains

2000-01-21 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

thanks becky for your comments. your barn sounds great.  i think i'll try a
dirt floor, topped with gravel then with rubber mats over.  any water can go
through the cracks or out the edge.  never thought about the concrete floor
stinking,  but i guess it would if the manure and urine get stuck under
there.  helpful hints,  thx, denise



Dave McWethy's visit to Minnesota

2000-01-21 Thread Tish Pasqual
This message is from: "Tish Pasqual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dave will be in the Minneapolis area the weekend of February 12 (his son will 
be looking at Carleton College as a possible school to attend), and was 
wondering if some kind of get together - perhaps a dinner somewhere?  Potluck 
at my house (southwest Minneapolis)?  could be organized.  If things work out 
he may also be offering me some driving advice out at my farm.  Any other 
driving/Fjord opportunities for him?

Dave is also on the CD-L, so we may be having a cross-list event!

Tish and Elph in Minneapolis



Easy Boot Application

2000-01-21 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Have a look at this website.
http://www.greatbasin.net/~sportssaddle/Easyboot.html

Marsha - do you think even these methods would have held an easy boot on
draft-shaped feet?
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net



Another Fjord? in art on the web

2000-01-21 Thread Meredith Sessoms
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Theodor Kittelsen
(1857-1914)
http://www.cs.uit.no/~espensk/kittelsen/index-2.0.html
Unfortunately, when I clicked on the horse drawing I only got half the
image, but I could print the small image alone at:
http://www.cs.uit.no/~espensk/kittelsen/svartedauen.gif

>>><<<   Meredith Sessoms
>>><<<   Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA
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Alfalfa/aussie saddles

2000-01-21 Thread misha nogha
This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sorry I have been off the list so long. Some pretty ntense family health
crises'--still going on--visitors, still here, working with horses and
getting my new traditional siamese breeding stock has kept me pretty busy.
I do feed an alfalfa mix hay in the winter without overweight problems. I
don't feed grain--except to put a dash of supplement into--so I like to
have the extra protein in the winter. Also, In the past couple of years it
has rained on the all grass hay and ruined it. So I would rather take my
chances with alfalfa mix than moldy hay. One of the things I have done is
for my hay to be analyzed for nutrition to check out the TDN. It's really
neat to see just what you are feeding your horses. 

My husband uses an Aussie saddle and loves it. He doesn't rope so didn't
feel the need for a western, and liked the secure feeling of the aussie
saddle. He doesn't care at all for my all purpose.

Lots of great stuff on the list. Enjoy reading it.

Hey got a laugh the other day from a girl who wanted to use a picture of my
stallion for her virtual horse. It's a little web club where kids have
pretend horses and take them to pretend shows on the net. It's pretty cute.
Glad she liked Joey. He is a lot of fun as a non-pretend horse too.

Steve could you please send me your mailing address again. Ahem. Lost it.

Misha
Shota Fjords
http://www.eoni.com/~mishamez



Hello Anita

2000-01-21 Thread Ursula Jensen
This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Good to have you back Anita.I always enjoy your stories and I wish you'd
post moreso when are you going to write that book??? We need some of
these stories on paper. Have you ever thought about writing while sitting in
the truck on those long trips? UJ
Ursula & Brian Jensen
Trinity Fjords
Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0
http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(250) 547-6303



Dun looking for names

2000-01-21 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've enjoyed the dun discussion and it brought back memories of my QH mare that
I had as a kid. She was a dark gold buckskin and her registered name was
"Cindy's Goldun," but I her called Goldy. Maybe I should have registered Tank as
"Cynthia's Browndun" and continued the tradition! Dun commenting

Cynthia Madden
Omaha, Nebraska USA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



self cleaning barns

2000-01-21 Thread Julie Will
This message is from: "Julie Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, we don't exactly have a self cleaning barn, but we have 3 very willing
dogs who do their best to help clean up the manure!  Of course with 31
horses, they don't exactly make a dent in it.

Hope I didn't spoil anyone's lunch!

Julie, in cold upstate NY where we are expecting wind chills of 40 below
tonight and the tractors won't start. : (



Easy Entry Replacement Wheels

2000-01-21 Thread Steve McIlree
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  While I'm refinishing my country cart this winter, I've been driving
  my metal easy entry cart. It's one of the common ones from Frontier
  with spoked pneumatic wheels. Anyway, several weeks ago Pferd took
  an unscheduled detour thru the woods to avoid some carnivorous
  cattle, and we ended up popping a spoke on a tree root. This was the
  incentive I needed to finally order a set of replacement wheels from
  Paul Milton. If anyone else has been thinking about these wheels,
  I'm writing to encourage you to go ahead and get them. The wheels I
  got are 34 inch diameter, replacing the 25 inch wheels that come on
  the cart. The wheels and spokes are solid steel, with sealed ball
  bearings, and they have a solid rubber buggy tire set in. The extra
  height gained by the larger diameter wheels is wonderful, although I
  don't sit as high as in my country cart, my eye-level is now well
  above Pferd's back, giving me a much better view of the road. In
  addition, the wheels roll much smoother than the old ones, and on
  our test drive yesterday, I had to hold Mr. P back because the wind
  blast in the cold air was causing my eyes to water too much. He's
  going to be able to really move this cart now. And one more benefit
  of the new wheels is they make this light, maneuverable cart
  show-legal. I intend to start using it in obstacle classes at
  pleasure shows. So once again, if you've thought about replacement
  wheels for your easy entry, I encourage you to go ahead and order
  them. (Paul's Web site is http://www.miltoncarriageworks.com, and
  you can see the wheels at the "Accessories" button).

--
Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA
  The air of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. --Arabian 
proverb



Re: self-cleaning barns

2000-01-21 Thread Debby Stai
This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Wouldn't like the conveyor belt and the trap doors but what a wonderful idea
about the jogging track around the stalls. I wonder how the horses in the stalls
react when one goes jogging by? Like anything else, they adapt! Thanks for the
ideas, yall keep them coming. Debby

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I once visited a farm where they had a barn that was as close to
> self-cleaning as any I can imagine.  It was at Thornmar Farm in Maryland, a
> TB nursery/training center.  The barn was a Saratoga-style barn, with a
> double row of stalls in the center, surrounded by an indoor jogging track,
> like this:
> ___
>  /      \
>  I   I__I__I__I__I__I   I
>  I   I__I__I__I__I__I   I
>  \/
> The stalls had a trap-door in the floor at the back of the stalls, which
> opened up to a conveyor belt running the whole length of the barn, and ending
> up at a pit at one end, where trucks were pulled up under the end of the
> belt, waiting to haul the muck away.  WOW!  I was so envious, but I bet it is
> a maintenance nightmare - can you imagine all the little pieces of shavings
> and stuff that end up jammed under the conveyor belt?
> Jan, in Virginia, still mucking the old-fashioned way.
>



self-cleaning barns

2000-01-21 Thread JBonner748
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I once visited a farm where they had a barn that was as close to 
self-cleaning as any I can imagine.  It was at Thornmar Farm in Maryland, a 
TB nursery/training center.  The barn was a Saratoga-style barn, with a 
double row of stalls in the center, surrounded by an indoor jogging track, 
like this:
___
 /      \
 I   I__I__I__I__I__I   I
 I   I__I__I__I__I__I   I
 \/
The stalls had a trap-door in the floor at the back of the stalls, which 
opened up to a conveyor belt running the whole length of the barn, and ending 
up at a pit at one end, where trucks were pulled up under the end of the 
belt, waiting to haul the muck away.  WOW!  I was so envious, but I bet it is 
a maintenance nightmare - can you imagine all the little pieces of shavings 
and stuff that end up jammed under the conveyor belt?
Jan, in Virginia, still mucking the old-fashioned way.



Re:Easy Boots

2000-01-21 Thread HapDayBMF
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Hi List,
I haven't posted in some time, but I've been reading.
I use easy boots.  I haven't ever put shoes on my 2 boys. 5 & 7yrs. 
I trail ride mostly.  We have been in MUD... rocks, rushing water, climbed 
threw brush etc.  I haven't lost one yet.
I started using them mainly because my horses hooves kept getting chipped up 
on the rocks and hard ground.  
They don't all fit perfect but they have a number of adjustments you can make 
to them.  They go on easy and if you have the right tool ( a flat screwdriver 
works BEST) they come off like a dream too. 
I would recommend them highly.
Aimee Day



Trying to get caught up

2000-01-21 Thread Anita Unrau
This message is from: Anita Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Happy New Year  to everyone on the Fjord List,

I am trying to get caught up on four months of the Fjord Digest and
enjoying all the different topics. Our nice quiet stay at home this
fall disappeared as I spent 4 days a week in Vernon , which is about 2
1/2 hrs north of here and close to Brian and Ursula, helping my
sisters to look after Mom. Now that she is gone and Orville has learnt
to cook and do a small amount of house cleaning I can get back to our
Fjord stuff. While reading the different messages and clicking on
websites I came across Bud and Tillies "Dun Lookin" page and seen some
of the old pictures. The picture of Harold Jacobsen with the mare Lise
brought back memories. This was the same picture that Harold sent us
and as a result we bought two mares and foals. Lise is one of two
mares and we later sold her to Chip Lamb. Lise's daughter Else, sired
by Dragtind was sold to a couple in Hawaii and was our first big
export. With Lise open we trained her to drive when she was 12 or 14
years of age and used her in our six horse hitch.

The picture's from Germany probably came from Rhinehold Eitenmuller.
He went to school in Texas for awhile and while in N. America came and
seen us. Must have been about 79 or 80. Eitenmuller's where/are Fjord
breeders in then West Germany. Their stallion was Heino and they did
alot of demos at Equitana, etc then. I think the sidesaddle picture
must be from them as well. In March of 1981 Helena Kelement and
Orville and I flew to Germany and met Rhinehold at Equitana and
watched them do their demo for the event. Met a bunch of German
breeders at that time but don't remember the names now. Helena bought
her six fillies from Germany and we went on to Norway where Helena
bought her stallion Halstien and we bought Rudaren. During that trip
looking at stallions for sale we seen and took pictures of Gjest,
Myrstein (who was our third choice), Norulv, (our second choice), and
many others mentioned recently on the Fjord List. The Dutch Stallion
Nordal is a full brother to Norulv. We seen him on the next trip to
Europe to buy mares. We have never wavered on our first choice of
Rudaren. He has done everything in our breeding program that we
expected from him and his grand/great/ great-great grandchildern. Next
spring will see the next generation being born.. The picture of
Orville holding Rudaren was taken by me when we lived in Bergen,
Alberta. The next picture Orville took while I held onto Rusten and
was in front of our house, built by a Norwegian, in Bergen. Rusty, as
we all affectionally call him, brings back lots of memories. He taught
me the proper way to handle stallions when breeding and always forgave
me my ignorance and mistakes. He would work for me on voice commands
alone and always a perfect gentleman. Orville was working as a Mud
Engineer in the Oil Patch and was gone most of the time. Still miss
Rusty even though our breeding program is based on Rudaren bred to
Rusty's sisters. A full brother George, who was our very first Fjord
in 1973, is going to be 30 years young this year.

I am going to try and get our web page done now that I am home and
hope to be putting lots of our old pictures on it. Enjoyed seeing the
pictures and reliving old memories of friends and Fjords.

Anita Unrau
Anvil's Acres Norwegian Fjords
"Disposition, Conformation, Versatility"

PS
I to have a pet peeve about Confirmation being used for Conformation.
See it all the time.