Re: invaluable Fjord List
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:48 PM, ruth bushnell wrote: > wow, the many letters of appreciation for the FJ list are a tribute to the > value it afforded. > the loss will truly leave a large hole in the Fjord world.. I am wondering > if > some of the > best contributions could be reserved somehow.. maybe you could compose a > book, > Steve? I remember when several posts highlighted significant stallions of > the > past.. > it would be a shame if these were lost for all time. > > Merry Christmas to all and a prosperous New Year, Ruthie and Gene Bushnell > âRuthie, The archives are maintained separately from The List server. and so long as that service remains without charge I intend to leave them online. If anyone wishes to dig through 17 years of emails to compile a "Best of FHL" they are welcome to do so. You can find the archives at:â http://tinyurl.com/rcepw. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=smcilree@gmai l.com&idSignature=22> Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Demise of the list
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Frederick Pack wrote: > Steve, if it a matter of finances, I would donate towards the continuation > of your list. What is the cost involved? > Or, are you just burned out? > > How can I (we) help? > âThanks for the offer, Fred. No, I am not burned out, âbut it appears the concept of an email discussion list is. The novelty or perhaps the immediacy of Facebook seems to make the idea of communicating via email just too old fashioned to interest people. The traffic has dwindled to barely a trickle as has what I see on your list also. I've simply decided that fighting the tide of the new "social media" is insane, and though I will miss the folks and discussions here it is time to face the inevitable. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=smcilree@gmai l.com&idSignature=22> Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Farewell
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Gail Russell wrote: > I > â â > do hope Fred will keep his going. I use facebook now, but it is not a > great substitute. I would appreciate knowing the Fjord facebook pages > people are using. > > Thank you Steve. (Did you ever find your new Corgi? > âFred has asked that I let folks know that his âYahoo list is continuing. It does seem to me that the traffic there isn't much greater that it has been around here. I don't know, but I guess there is an immediacy to Facebook that email lists are missing, but after giving it a shot early on I found it to not be my cup of tea. No, I still have not found the ideal Corgi to attempt to replace Clust. If anyone knows of an available young Corgi from active herding lines, please send me contact information. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=smcilree@gmai l.com&idSignature=22> Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Goodbye FjordHorse List
This message is from: Steve McIlree All good things must come to an end. Some of us have been here since March 29, 1998 and a few have arrived only recently. However I have come to the conclusion that the traffic on the list has dwindled to the point that it no longer makes any sense for me to continue to fund it. So when the current year's server subscription runs out, the FjordHorse List will be no more. Technology flows forward, and although I find the current offerings of social media to be somewhat of a black hole for people's time, I am in the minority like the Luddites of the 19th century. For that reason, I must say goodbye to all of you who I have come to know online, because I will continue to refuse to become enmeshed in either Facebook or Twitter. It's been great getting to meet all you folks, but it's now time to draw the curtain on The List. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=smcil...@gmail.com&idSignature=22> Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=smcil...@gmail.com&idSignature=22> Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Malware in Message
This message is from: Steve McIlree Please open no links in any message from jglick. In fact simply delete any messages from that person. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=smcil...@gmail.com&idSignature=22> Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fire in Rock Creek
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Janine Gerrand wrote: > Has anyone heard from Anita & Orville Unrau about the evacuation and if > they > had time get out with any horses? > âI found the following in the Vancouver Sun: *Evacuees Anita and Orville Unrau, who live north of Rock Creek on the east side of the river, are staying with a family in Midway, after a gruelling afternoon Thursday spent trying to save their 12 horses.* *Anita said with the help of kind neighbours all the animals were loaded onto trailers and are temporarily staying with other horse owners in the Kettle Valley and Midway.* *"The fire jumped the river, and we were out there with water and mats from our truck, trying to put out the fire," she said, adding that she witnessed at least one structure go up in flames.* *Yet amid the struggle to save homes and lives, she said there was incredible community spirit, as neighbours helped each other to safety and residents of Midway opened up their homes and cafes to feed the displaced residents and campers* *â.* -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Sent with MailTrack <https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signature&lang=en&referral=smcilree@gmai l.com&idSignature=22> Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fwd: Horse For Sale
This message is from: Steve McIlree -- Forwarded message -- From: Tom Rounsville Date: Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:19 AM Subject: Horse For Sale To: owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com For Sale: - 15-year-old Fjord gelding - 15 hands - Excellent Trail Horse - Has been professionally trained by Fjord trainer - Goes well alone or, in a group - Able to be ridden by anyone - Located in Western New York (Dansville) - Asking $4,000 - (585)-610-0551 -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Warning!
This message is from: Steve McIlree DO NOT click on the link in the message from Lisa Lucidi. Gmail flagged it as suspicious. Actually, it is a good practice to never click on any links in emails from individuals, even if they are your very best friend. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Njål - Time to rewrite the history
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Olivia Farm, Inc. wrote: In he last statement that I marked in bold, though a matter of hearsay and > not > of the official record, Tor's provides one possible explanation for this > discrepancy between what the official record states and what DNA research > indicates. Personally, I would put my money on the DNA research as opposed > to the statements by people who might have something to gain by falsifying > their records. At any rate, I think it is safe to say that the "NjÃ¥l > bottleneck" is very disputable and through the most modern scientific > means. > âThanks for this input Dan. This research seems to be plausible,â but I'm curious if it can provide an answer as to just how many pure Fjord stallion lines survived the Rimfakse years. Also why did the non-dun Fjords disappear in a time frame which seems to coincide with this experiment? -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
White Markings -- Some Food for Thought
This message is from: Steve McIlree This discussion of white markings and how they should be considered in breeding decisions has got me again thinking on a issue which seems to me to be too often overlooked by many Fjord folks. That is the fact that the worldwide gene pool of the Fjordhorse emanates from a single stallion, Njal 166, just over a century ago. So is it possible that eliminating from breeding an otherwise excellent stallion because of some white marking might just be "throwing out the baby with the bath water"? When this discussion started I remembered reading on the Website maintained by a woman from Oslo who was an early member of the List, that in the 19th Century Fjords came in colors other than dun, perhaps even Piebalds. Unfortunately she shut down the site due to lack of time after having a child. But this memory haunted me so I went Googling to see if I could find some existing reference. I found the following on the Website entitled "horse genetics" ( http://goo.gl/kQQoOl) under a sub link devoted to the Fjord Horse ( http://goo.gl/ErjZT3): Originally the breed is known to have included bay and brown horses. Presumably chestnut and the cream dilute colors (palomino, buckskin etc.) also existed in the Norwegian Fjord Horse since the genes for these appear to be in the current day population. At the end of 1800's the Norwegian Fjord Horse almost died out. Todayâs horses all descend from a single surviving stallion, Njal 166, who was born 1891. In genetic terms he is known as a *founder* stallion: his genes have influenced the development of the entire breed and are carried by all living Norwegian Fjord Horses. Because so few individuals survived the genetic diversity of the breed was much reduced, and some alleles were lost altogether, possibly including the AA and At alleles of the agouti locus. The breed went through what is called a *genetic bottleneck*. At the time of the bottleneck the wild-type allele at the dun locus seems to have been lost, so that now all Norwegian Fjord Horses are dun. In this breed the dun allele therefore is the only allele at the locus and is said to be *fixed* (i.e. its frequency is 100%). The colors of Norwegian Fjord horses are shown in the table below and discussed thereafter. As the subject line states, this is offered as "Food for Thought" and hopefully some discussion. â â -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
More on Trimming Replies
This message is from: Steve McIlree It seems as if everyone took to heart the requests to trim their replies, and I hope the links to explanations of making text selections were some help. However, it hadn't occurred to me until I saw a message today which included the entire original message that some people are not using either Windows or OSx to read and reply to the List. They are using phones or tablets running Android or iOS. I am currently doing some research to find tutorials for those mobile OSs that I think are as easy to understand as the two I gave you for the big machines. Those will be coming in the near future, but while Googling around searching for something appropriate, I happened to stumble across a feature of Gmail that will make things much easier in the trimming department for people who use it as their email client. By following these instructions (http://goo.gl/XUitp) you can set Gmail to allow you to select what you wish to leave for context before you reply, and only that will be copied into your message. Two bits of clarification might be helpful here. The first is, that thing that looks like a gear at the top right of your Gmail display will get you to a drop-down menu which contains the link to the Settings. That will open a new window in place of your normal Gmail display. Across the top are selections of various functions you can control the settings for, look for the one toward the right side called Labs. Scroll down that new display until you see "Quote selected text". The second thing is the link says that it may not work with the Reply button, but I have found that it does. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: [Bulk] re: decline in Fjord foaling numbers
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Gail Russell wrote: Gail (who clicked her three little dots dutifully, and thought, just for a > moment, that she saw flash by the words, "click here so Steve will draw and > quarter you, thank you from your friendly Google staff." > âAhh! Those folks at Google are ever so helpful! -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: decline in Fjord foaling numbers
This message is from: Steve McIlree I am not at all sure why Google has chosen to refer to "trimmed content" in the tool tip for the three little dots. It would have been better to have it say "Click here to show what's going to be included along with your reply that probably really should be trimmed". But then that would have made for a very unwieldy tool tip. â -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Gail Russell wrote: So...you got the so-called "trimmed content" > â,,,â > one has to go to the trouble of deleting > it, even if it is labelled as "trimmed content." Counterintuitive. > â Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: decline in Fjord foaling numbers
This message is from: Steve McIlree âWRONG!!! -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Gail Russell wrote: Am trying this WITHOUT hitting the 3 little dots. My "dot section" at the > bottom of the e-mail indicates that what is behind it is "trimmed content." > I think this means that I do not need to trim that unless I want to add > some of the old content to my reply. We will see. â Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: OTC sand colic preventive
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Carol Makosky wrote my husband is about to leave for the morning to pull our supper out of a 30 some inch deep hole & I have the frying pan all ready â Fried gopher, AGAIN? ; >)â â -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BCâ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2015 #10 REQUEST
This message is from: Steve McIlree Thanks for that addition Gail. Even though I use Gmail, clicking the dots is so ingrained that I totally spaced mentioning it. BTW, not only Google but it seems all across the net it has become fashionable to use light grey rather than good old black text. Makes it hard for us aging folks to see what's on the screen. I recently found an extension for the Chrome browser called High Contrast which lets you increase the contrast on Web pages and make that grey text black. It ruins pictures, but you can turn it off and on with a keystroke. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Gail Russell wrote: With GMAIL, one does not necessarily see the previous verbiage when > pressing "reply," > â Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2015 #10 REQUEST
This message is from: Steve McIlree OK great, Laurie's request comes at an appropriate time. I had intended to let the reply-trimming thing slide until we saw whether this rejuvenation of the List was going to last or not. However, since it has been brought up I will address it now. Since most folks get the Digest and since the Digests have been nearly unreadable with all the untrimmed replies, I guess it's necessary if I want this level of activity to continue. When you reply to a message your email client will copy everything from that message into your reply. You should eliminate all but a sentence or two which establish the context of your reply. See what I have done to Laurie's original message below. You might want to also leave the line that says who wrote the original message as I have done. Then you need to select all parts of the original message you wish to discard. How do you select text you ask? If you are running Windows, this will tell you in great detail: http://goo.gl/pvQWHh. If you are running Mac OS, this will be your page: http://goo.gl/VTVU8B. If you are running Linux, you are enough of a geek that I don't need to tell you anything. Depending on where the remainder you decide to leave for context is located within the original message you may have to select and delete more than one portion. Once you have made a selection, hit the delete key on your keyboard if you are running Windows. This will also work under Mac OS if you have a full size keyboard, otherwise you will use the Function (fn) plus the Backspace keys. If you find you have deleted too much you can restore all by hitting the Control (Ctrl) plus the Z keys for Windows or the Command plus the Z keys for Mac OS. (The Command key is the one with the funny four leaf clover symbol.) PS -- Since Hell has not frozen over the Mac stuff here is what I find with Google rather than my ever having touched a Mac keyboard. If I got anything wrong, I won't be hurt if any Mac fans set the record straight. â -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM, laurie with wrote: > > i miss this list, too. however, steve, can you explain one teensy little > thing again? how to clip your response so that we donât end up scrolling > through 3 days of previous responses. it gets so long, and sometimes i end > up scrolling past new stuff. â Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: bring it back
This message is from: Steve McIlree I certainly wish we could "bring back" the List. Whenever I have to renew the mail server or the URL I wonder if I should just pull the plug, but then it seems we always have a flurry of activity like we are now experiencing and I let it live. I don't consider myself old fashion, but I simply cannot abide the silly crap that goes along with Facebook so if I end this list I'll complete lose touch with everyone I've come to know since it started. I'll round this out with a short Fjord story from this morning. Tank and Teddy each get two meals a day which consist of 6½ pounds of grass hay and 1½ pounds of alfalfa. We ran out of alfalfa yesterday, so I made up today's breakfast of 8 pounds of grass hay. I always lock the boys in the round pen while I fix their meals to avoid their inevitable offers of help, so after I put breakfast in the feeders I let them out and stood back to watch what would happen when they found no alfalfa. They went to the feeders and began rooting for the alfalfa, eventually throwing most of the grass hay on the ground in a futile attempt to find the hidden treat. Knowing something was decidedly wrong, Teddy retraced my path from the feeders to the hay barn hoping to find where I had undoubtedly dropped the alfalfa. Tank though was more direct; when he had convinced himself that there was indeed no alfalfa, he marched across the pasture to where I was standing. He stopped directly in front of me, lifted his nose until it was just inches from mine, and stared straight into my eyes as if to say, "Where the is our alfalfa!" Then he executed a beautiful turn on the haunches, stomped back to the feeders and started to eat his inadequate breakfast. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Test...are my messages reaching the list
This message is from: Steve McIlree You are getting through fine. If you think you're not because you are not seeing your own messages you might want to check your SPAM folder. Several people have complained about not getting posted because their messages were being treated as SPAM by their email programs. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Gail Russell wrote: > This message is from: Gail Russell > > > I may have been banned because I do not know how to delete old messages > when I reply from my phone. > > Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Malware in Message
This message is from: Steve McIlree DO NOT Click the link in the me message from Shannon Kaplan. It leads to a malware site. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Hello?
This message is from: Steve McIlree I found this message along with two others in my SPAM folder. There was a note attached which reads: "*Be careful with this message.* Our systems couldn't verify that this message was really sent by aol.com. You might want to avoid clicking links or replying with personal information.". I am using Gmail, and I'm not sure how it assigns stuff to the SPAM bit-bucket, but perhaps that is the reason you're not seeing your own messages. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Amy Evers wrote: > This message is from: Amy Evers > > > Please if ANYONE gets this message through the Fjordhorse List, can you > Email me directly at fjord...@aol.com and let me know. I've written to the > list three times since the 31st of July and none of those posts made it > back > to my inbox. I've only gotten 3 random messages through the list since > then, > the latest from Linda Lottie this morning - stating that a flatbed trailer > was > sold. I'd like to figure out where the problem is. I seem to be getting > all my > other Email just fine. ??? > > > Amy Evers > Cottage Grove OR 97424 > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l > > > -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Saddle Message
This message is from: Steve McIlree When Curtis emailed me that his message hadn't been on the List, I check my personal archive and did not find it there. So I thought something must have been wrong with the server on Sunday, and resent his message as a test of the current condition of the server. After receiving a couple messages from folks telling me that my resending was the third time they had seen the saddle, I thought to check me SPAM folder. Low and behold, there were Curtis's original messages. I guess the server has no problems and I apologize for my spamming everyone a third time with the same message. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Western Saddle
This message is from: Steve McIlree I am sending this message which originated from Curtis Pierce as a test of the List's server. Curtis sent it twice on Sunday, but it never showed up on the Individual version of the List. However, I know it made it to the Digest so this is a test to determine whether there is an ongoing problem with the server or if it was a temporary hiccup. Also this looks like a good saddle so you folks getting the Individual version might be interested. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC â Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:35:15 -0400 From: "Curtis Pierce" Subject: Western Saddle This message is from: "Curtis Pierce" This is from a friend of mine who is mostly a mini driver, but she had bought this saddle for her Haflinger. Since her Haflinger is older and often lame, she has decided to stay with driving. Western Saddle - it is in like new condition- I only rode it 5-6 times. It is a TW specialized saddle, http://www.twsaddlery.com/. New she said they are 2600 (with a long wait to get it). It has a matching breast collar. It is 2 sizes wider than a wide tree and can be customized to fit any horse very easily. It was amazing how freely Wings could move when he had a saddle that finally really fit him (for the first time in his long life). (And I have had a broomstick turning the stirrups so it is a little better than a new saddle in that way!) I also have the matching pad, in black. She will custom fit it for $149 within 100 miles of her location, Canutillo, Texas. I would like $2000 for it and I will pay the $149 for the fitting so whoever buys it really gets the benefit of a perfect fitting saddle. The saddle is located in Shepherdstown, WV. Contact Janet Olcott at jwo123...@aol.com. Take care! Curt Pierce Mathias, WV http://www.deepcreekfarm.com/ â Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Malware in Message
This message is from: Steve McIlree Do Not click the link in the message from ncfjo...@aol.com. It leads to a site containing malware. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Bad Link
This message is from: Steve McIlree Sorry about the "twinkletack" malware link that came through on the list yesterday. I did not catch it until I got the Digest because the individual messages ended up in my SPAM folder. Hopefully none of you clicked through on the link or if you did hopefully your AV software, like mine was good enough to block it from opening. I have to recommend Gmail's SPAM filters and Avast AV for catching this link for me. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Gail Russell wrote: > This message is from: Gail Russell > > > It appears that one has to buy the books published between 1945 and 1965 to > get the original illustrations. There seem to be later reprints, but > people complain that the Wesley Dennis Illustrations are in black and > white. > > here is a list of her books. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marguerite_Henry I didn't have the Black Stallion, but I was hooked on the Island Stallion books. Also I loved Brighty of the Grand Canyon.ââ If you are not already familiar with it, ââa very good place to look for older editions of books is AbeBooks (www.abebooks.com). They have good prices and they list inventory from used booksellers across North America and UK. If you cannot find what you want in stock anywhere, you can place a request and you will get an email when any participating merchant gets a copy in. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2014 #21
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:08 AM, wrote: > This message is from: trakeh...@reagan.com > > Why did you ever print that crap "Urgent, need money" Nigerian Scam > letter? What a load of manure. > > Please filter such obvious scams. > ââ Thank you for your suggestion. The filters which are in place on the List are written using Regular Expressionsâ, a data processing concept with which you may be familiar. If you can devise such a filter that will catch all or even most of the "obvious, Nigerian Scams", please forward it to me and I will be happy to implement it immediately. Now, this is not to say that such a filter is not possible. I have to admit I bear some fault because the first I knew of this message was when Jean Ernest sent a warning to the List. Normally, if I had seen the actual message first, I would have warned everyone. However the message never came to my Inbox, because the filters on my Gmail account had sent it to my SPAM folder. Perhaps I should find a Google moonlighter to whip up something. Since a warning had already been sent I saw no need for redundancy, but I did immediately remove the offending email address from the active subscribers list. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjord cover
This message is from: Steve McIlree If you don't get this catalog and you want to see the picture mentioned, look here: http://goo.gl/rKuSMd. Cute, and a print is available at: http://goo.gl/sdymEJ. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Sherrie Dayton wrote: > This message is from: "Sherrie Dayton" > > I just got my copy of the Back in the Saddle catalog and there is a cute > little Fjord filly napping on the snow on the cover and it is also > available > as a print inside the catalog. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Bad Link in Message
This message is from: Steve McIlree Do Not click on the link in either message sent by Ronni Taylor yesterday. They were both flagged by my malware software. Ronni is no longer a subscriber. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
More on the Horse Head Sculptures
This message is from: Steve McIlree Here is an article with more information on the Kelpies horse head sculptures and another video which shows more detail of the heads: http://goo.gl/p53F9g. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Amazing Horse Sculpture
This message is from: Steve McIlree They aren't really Fjord Horses, but these gigantic horse head sculptures in Scotland are worth a look: http://goo.gl/aJdurB. And by the way -- Have a Happy Thanksgiving. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Tail Lights
This message is from: Steve McIlree I just spotted this new project on Kickstarter, tail lights for your horse. This looks like a good idea although perhaps a bit pricey. You can check it out here: http://goo.gl/JZo6pB. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Real Malware Warning - Please Read!
This message is from: Steve McIlree I have forbidden virus warnings on the List, but since it is my list, and since this is one of the scariest pieces of malware I've ever seen I'm going to go ahead and warn you. Recently, there has been a nasty bit of malware called Cryptolock has been going around. There seem to be a number of ways your system can become infected with this particular malware, but the most common appears to be opening picture or .pdf file attached to an email which is the carrier. Once the system is infected, it will lie dormant for a random period of time and then download an encryption key from its server. When it has the key in hand it will begin encrypting EVERY PERSONAL FILE on your computer. After all your files have been encrypted and made inaccessible to you, it will send you a message offering the key to un-encrypt your files after you have paid an amount of around $300. If you haven't sent the ransom within two to four days, the un-encryption key will be destroyed, rendering your files totally unrecoverable. Here is a video covering this threat in some detail: âhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zcj9RKO3e38â. What can you do to protect yourself from this extortionware? The first thing I would recommend is to install the software made by Malwarebytes, the company of the man featured in the video. I've had it on my system for a couple years and would not be without it. The Pro version ($25) WILL protect you from Cryptolock, and will also remove pretty much any malware which might sneak onto your computer. Their website can be found at: http://www.malwarebytes.org. By the way, you want to run this alongside whatever virus software you are already using. There is a cheaper alternative, called CryptoPrevent, but the only thing it does is to block Cryptolock. You can find it at: http://www.foolishit/vb6-projects/cryptoprevent/. You can get a free version, but you have to understand that malware tends to be very fluid, and software to block it must be updated frequently to stay abreast of the latest twist. You could check back to the website a couple times a day to see if a new version of CryptoPrevent had been released, or you could shell out $15 for a version which will download and install updates automatically. That's about it for now. Sorry for the bad news, but cheer up and eat some Halloween candy. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: A simple suggestion
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:05 AM, wrote: > This message is from: trakeh...@reagan.com > > A simple suggestion...when people respond to messages, things can > sure be a lot more readable and clear if you delete the entire string of > messages before yours (leaving the last comment so we know what the > discussion > is). You can't believe how many time I've harped on this subject. I've even gone so far as to threaten repeat offenders with loss of posting privileges.ââ It works for a bit, but it never seems to last longer than a few weeks. I have to admit I've given up out of total frustration. I would go even further than what you suggest, to say that folks should delete all but a sentence or two of the message to which they are replying. Just enough should be left to establish the context for their reply. And before anyone asks how to edit their replies, I don't know your email client so I cannot give you a good answer. However I bet if you would ask your local teenage computer nerd they would be happy to show you in some detail. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Malware Warning
This message is from: Steve McIlree DO NOT OPEN THE LINK IN THE MESSAGE WITH THE SUBJECT "GOOD AFTERNOON FJORDHORSE"!! IT LINKS TO A SITE CONTAINING POSSIBLE MALWARE. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Malware Warning
This message is from: Steve McIlree DO NOT OPEN THE MESSAGE WITH THE SUBJECT "GOOD AFTERNOON FJORDHORSE"!! IT CONTAINS A LINK TO POSSIBLE MALWARE. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Vet Only Rabies Vaccinations
This message is from: Steve McIlree I believe the reason many states restrict rabies vaccine to a prescription item is to help enforce vaccination of dogs and cats. I am certainly in favor of all pets being vaccinated, so I don't think paying for an annual farm check-up call which includes rabies shots is too much of a burden. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Rabies vaccine?
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Main Email wrote: > > This message is from: Main Email > > > I am the only one at my barn who vaccinates for rabies. We board in a rural > area of Colorado (Morrison) south of area with a significant increase in > rabies...it was found at a horse barn after a feral kitten was diagnosed with > it... after scratching people. > > Who else gives rabies shots? Do yours have reactions? Have any > recommendations? We have made rabies shots a regular part of our vaccination schedule for many years. We've never had any problems with adverse reactions. Since rabies outbreaks in wildlife are always a threat I don't believe it's worth taking a chance. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Temperament and evaluations
This message is from: Steve McIlree I am posting this message for Phillip Odden while I try to figure out what is preventing him from posting directly to the List. -- Steve Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List From: Phillip Odden Subject: Temperament and evaluations Date: October 9, 2013 9:06:23 AM CDT To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" This message is from Phillip Odden in Northwestern Wisconsin where the fall leaves are nearing full color. I have not followed the full discussion on temperament and Fjords but I was able to see Lorie's and now Brian's post. So since I feel Brian jerking my chain in a rather soft and supportive way, I feel compelled to throw my two cents into the bottomless pit of opinions. Yes it is widely felt, and I agree, that temperament, willingness, and trainability may be measured best by standard performance tests. I can not imagine how anyone can judge performance in a conformation test when the horse only needs to stand still walk and trot. Though when a horse seems unable to do even these three things one can begin to wonder about the horse's temperament and trainability. But then there is a lot more to it than that since the horse needs to learn to behave as well off the farm as it does on the farm and to do that it needs to get used to being off the farm. All horses are good horses until you ask them to do something. Some Fjords have good temperament and are easily trained but might lack the athletic ability to do the performance tests well. Some have the athletic ability to do the tests but are unable to focus because of outside stimulation or they may be unwilling to work. Some are trainable but down right lazy. Still another group may have athletic ability and are trainable but from time to time decide to do things their way for reasons unknown. Its very difficult to depend on a horse like this. I like Fjords that are calm and easily trained, have lots of athletic ability, and dependable so that I can relax and enjoy getting the job done. Horses like this are fun to work with and much safer. Often the question comes down to nature or nurture. Is the horse naturally gifted or flawed to some degree or has the horse been trained and handled poorly? Is the trainer training the horse or is the horse training the trainer/handler? The horse is always trying to train us you know. In a 5 week station test for stallions in Norway each horse receives the same handling and training and is scored on the same set of diverse tests. The horses are generally of the same year class. The horses receive scores from the trainers and from evaluators at the conclusion of the test. The veterinarian gives a score based on the horse's conformation problems to predict durability and soundness as a breeding stallion. Some European evaluations require that horses do certain tests at a certain age. In this way it might be easier to judge how trainable the horse is if for example all three year old must do a basic performance test to be certified. In our system we judge horses three years old and older in performance and we don't take into account how many years of training and experience they have. You can train the horse for several years to do the test if you wish. And if it doesn't do well you can bring them back and try it again. The Family Fjord tests are meant to evaluate a horse first on basic ground work and later on basic riding and driving. Elements of the FF tests reflect what a well behaved Fjord should be able to do away from home while on a trail ride or pleasure drive. The expectations and skills learned in the ground tests transfer directly to the riding and driving tests. If your horse can accomplish this set of tests with a measure of grace, you probably have a trainable Fjord with a reasonably sound mind and enough athletic ability to make most people happy. The NFHR evaluation system is only a tool to help people understand their horses better. The evaluation system might be useful in identifying lines of horses or individuals with better than average or poorer than average characteristics. The program can be useful for breeders to gauge how their breeding program is going by having their offspring evaluated. All evaluation programs have strengths and weaknesses so each individual needs to bring their own knowledge and experience to the table as well in order to make informed decisions. There is more but that is enough for now. Hoping you are all enjoying your Fjords on which ever level you choose. Phil Odden Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Bad Link in Message
This message is from: Steve McIlree DO NOT OPEN the link contained in the message from Michelle King. It leads to a malware site. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fence Shorts and Waterers
This message is from: Steve McIlree Since PVC is a good insulator, how can the electricity get to the water? Sorry about the untrimmed reply, but I'm writing this on my tablet and it won't let me position the cursor to do so. On Apr 15, 2013 8:44 AM, "Frederick Pack" wrote: > This message is from: Frederick Pack > > > Steve, the spark from fence wire to some kind of ground will travel through > the water in the pipedepending on the mineral content. Solid metal > pipe to the waterers is LESS apt to shock through the water as the metal > pipe acts as an excellent grounding system. The electrical impulse from the > spark will be dissipated over a larger area. The impulse through a PVC pipe > will be channeled to the easiest point of release..I.E. the horses > nose...to ground...his feet on the earth (if un-insulated from the ground). > > The conductivity of the soil also plays a partsand will not conduct an > impulse as easily as iron rich soil. > > > Fred > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Steve McIlree >wrote: > > > This message is from: Steve McIlree > > > > > > Fred, > > > > Can a short in the fence cause shocks from the waterers if the water > supply > > line is PVC? > > > > -- > > Steve > > I > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fjord Priorities
This message is from: Steve McIlree Bonnie's story reminds me of our guys yesterday morning. When I feed, I put them in the round pen to keep them from "helping" while I measure out their meals. They also get fed in the round pen so they think it's a great place when we need to get them out of out hair for some reason. The routine is, once I've measured their hay into muck buckets, I dump the meals over the pen panel into their feeders and then unlatch the pen gate. So night before last, when I flipped the chain latch up it caught without my noticing, and when I went out the next morning to give them breakfast they were still locked in. Since they had been all night without water I thought they would make a rush for the waterer as soon as the gate opened. No, they started checking my pockets for the dinner mint they usually get when I go into the pasture. After I gave them their mints, did they head for the water? Nope, they turned around, went back into the pen and stood by their feeders until I dumped breakfast in. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Non-electric Freeze Free Waterers
This message is from: Steve McIlree Since the waterer thread has sparked some interest, I am going to put in my two cents on what I believe is the smartest waterer design going. We have had a waterer from Bar-Bar A (http://goo.gl/Ez5tv) for about five years and I think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. These look familiar at first glance, there is a paddle in the bowl and when the horses push their noses in it turns on the water for them to drink. That is where the similarity to other waterers ends; the water stands in the bowl for about a minute, then a valve opens and the water drains. Therein lies the advantage to these things, in the summer there is no standing water to grow algae and mosquito larvae, and in the winter there is nothing to freeze. There is of course the additional benefit of no electricity usage and no need for an electrician to install. The drain operates on the same principle as frost free hydrants. The valve system which allows water to flow up to the bowl and then drain back out is installed below the frost line, so water never stands long enough to freeze. When the waterers are installed, a gravel-filled sump is dug below the level of the feed line and valves which catches the water as it drains. So OK these things work in New Mexico, but I live where there is real winter. The Bar-Bar A Website has plenty of testimonials from New England, Canada, Alaska and even one from Norway where the writer says they worked at -32°. I should mention that in the five years we have had one of these waterers installed, the only maintenance required has been to replace a filter one time; a job which took all of twenty minutes. I do not work for or receive any kickbacks from Bar-Bar A, I just believe they have a great product. If you are in need of a practical non-electric freeze free waterer for your horses, I urge you to check them out. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
More on Nelson Waterers
This message is from: Steve McIlree After I answered Valerie's message, I Googled Nelson Waterers because I was curious about how the price compared the non-electric freeze free waterer we use. I still haven't found the price, but I did stumble on this comment in a thread on horseforum.com. "There were a few small installation problems in the beginning, but they were worked out easily enough, and you absolutely can adjust the amount of water you want in the bowl. The lids require a human with opposable things to get off--no way a horse could do it. The heater seems to work pretty well, but when it's super cold and windy the outside waterer has had a thin layer of ice develop on it (nothing the horses couldn't easily break with their muzzles, but we only have mild to moderate winters here, too). The waterers have not broken down and require no maintenance, except for when *the builders who put them in wired them wrong and caused our horses to get a shock every time they got a drink*but you can't blame that on Nelson." -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Waterers
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 7:15 AM, valerie pedersen wrote: > This message is from: valerie pedersen > > > We built a new barn and put expensive Nelson waterers in each stall and one > in the paddock. The horses refuse to use them. One of the Fjords will use > it if there is nothing else, one Fjord mare will not use it at all. The old > Morgan has already had an impaction colic but it may not be the waterers > fault. I have tried treats in them, no one cares. I am trying to make my > life easier. Any ideas? > Valerie > Now in Virginia > âDo the waterers have electric heaters? If so are they connected through ground-fault circuits? We once had an instance at a boarding barn where the horses suddenly stopped drinking. We found that there was a short in the water heater that was giving a mild shock. We finally spotted it when it got bad enough that it knocked my Morgan to his knees and then threw me across the pen when I touched it. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fjord Crosses
This message is from: Steve McIlree Our late, long-time boarder Nigel was the perfect example of a Fjord cross that worked the way one would wish. He was a Fjord/Arab cross, and had the personality of a Fjord and the go and agility of an Arab. When we took them both out for a drive, he would keep Tank from falling asleep in the shafts. I used to have great fun driving him in ad hoc obstacle patterns, weaving through creosote bushes in the desert. He remained an active and responsive driving and saddle horse until the last couple years of his long life. Rumor had it that he was from the group of Fjord/Arab crosses Finn Casperson bred for combined driving. We did a clinic with Bill Long who had been Casperson's whip, and evidently from his strong dislike of Fjords, Nigel was the exception in this bunch. If this history was true, he was somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 years old when he passed last year, so he did get longevity from the Fjord side. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Salt
This message is from: Steve McIlree Since Tank and Teddy spend much of each day sculpting their salt block into a beautifully abstract statuette, I thought to do a bit of research on the subject of horses and salt. Here is what I found with some concentrated Googling. There seems to be no dispute that horses need salt as a part of their diet, but salt blocks are perhaps not the best method to offer salt to them. Salt blocks are made for cattle who have rough tongues, and horses whose tongues are smooth have a harder time fashioning blocks into their artistic visions. As a result they may chew the salt which can lead to damage to their teeth and even their jaws. Because of this design flaw they may not be able to get sufficient salt if it is presented in blocks. Every source I read seems to stress that horses are very good at self regulating their salt intake; unless they have been deprived of salt or are severely undernourished, they will not overdose. The preferred method of presenting their salt is loose granules in a container attached to a fence or stall, and they will eat what they need. Salt should not be added to feed, because that would put the dosage in your hands rather than the horses mouth. The take away seems to overwhelmingly be this, make sure your horses have access to plenty of salt, and they will know the amount to eat better than you ever could. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
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This message is from: Steve McIlree On behalf of the FjordHorse List family I would like to extend sincere condolences to Fred Pack for his recent great loss. Since Fred's messages are currently being monitored, I am passing along one from him which was filtered by the server earlier today. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC = Thanks to all Although this is not Fjord related, I would like to post something that my son wrote on Facebook: "Jeff Pack My Mom Lois Pack passed away at 6:42qm this morning after a long bout with respiratory issues. She came home from the hospital wednesday to pass away in familiar surroundings, and not a stark hospital environment. I can relate to that. Anyways, I was fortunate enough to have seen her last night and say good bye, expecting that would be last time I'd see her, but hoping otherwise I was afraid heading up there to the house, my last memory of her would be her laying there on a bed all frail looking. But when I came in, she awoke briefly, her face lit up, and she smiled ear to ear, then returned to whatever limbo she temporarily came out. That'll always be my last memory of her. Be happy mom. you are in a better place now." Fred Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: No Answer
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Frederick Pack wrote: > This message is from: Frederick Pack > > > My offer of $500.00 to our former trainer to sign a COB expired at > midnight 11Jun12... un-answered. > > I will be re-submitting a petition to the NFHR BOD to register our > foal without a COB. > > If you feel that the prior denial of registration was an error by the > BOD, please contact our elected BOD members and voice your opinion. > > In light of the recent exchange and false statements (not by ME), I > believe in the interest of the Fjord Breed, and the protection of our > innocent girl, she should be registered. Fred, Obviously, you didn't believe I was a man of my word when I said ENOUGH. You will continue to receive the List, but further messages from you will be moderated for the next 60 days. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fjord Smarts
This message is from: Steve McIlree This morning when I went out to feed the boys, Teddy came immediately to the gate but Tank stayed out in the pasture by the north fence. This is unusual behavior because they are normally anxious to get their pre-meal mints. As I opened the gate, Tank whinnied pitifully, "Please come and save me!" I went to where he was standing to find he had managed to stick his hoof through one of the lower openings in the field fencing which surrounds the pasture. He had been standing patiently for some time, waiting for rescue. He gave me total control of his foot and I was able to easily get it back through the fence with absolutely no harm to his leg. When released he nosed me for his expected morning mint and then calmly headed for the feeders. This is not the first time one of the Fjords has managed to get caught in fencing, or wire or even the stock panels on their round pen. The thing which we find remarkable is that when it happens they have always displayed the presence of mind to stand quietly and wait until their humans arrive to extricate them. This is so unlike many instances we have known where horses of other breeds have panicked in similar situations and done themselves serious damage. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: FW: Fjords on TV
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Cynthia Madden wrote: > ...However despicable the show, what an opportunity for exposure to Fjords > and > carriage driving. Probably a lot more people watch the Bachelor than the > infrequent opportunities on RFD-TV... > I have to agree wholeheartedly with Cynthia, and not just to maintain domestic tranquility. If the Registry doesn't jump on this opportunity to work Lindsey and Devon into national advertising it would be very unfortunate. This stupid show was on ABC, one of the broadcast networks! People get those channels even if they are still stuck with an antenna on the roof. Even with cable or satellite, one has to have a upgrade package to get RFD-TV and even a better package to get some of the other channels which people here have excitedly announced were showing Fjords. Even if they happen to have one of the horsey outlets, how many folks are going to abandon their reality pap to chance to see a Fjord there? This thing is pure gold for the breed! People are going to see an unusual horse in an activity of which probably they knew nothing. And if they have even the slightest interest in horses, they are probably going to try to find out what that funny little horse was and what he was doing pulling that weird cart around. If you don't think so, check out this thread from the "Chronicle of the Horse" forum: http://goo.gl/H9pIV. It starts out with someone asking "What breed was that cute little pony?" and progresses through various speculations to eventually others saying "I think my daughter needs one." and "Where would you recommend shopping for one?". -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: trimming posts
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Debby wrote: > This message is from: "Debby" > > While I don't know that I'd agree with Steve calling the way I reply to a > ongoing subject as netiquette, I've not seen it done in a way that is > confusing to the other list members. > I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to convey. I thought you were recommending simply starting a new message with the same subject and no contextual quotation, rather than using the reply button and editing the quotation. If one does the former, it can be confusing to others who have no idea to what specifically one is replying. There is another problem which is caused by simply starting a new message in reply to an ongoing thread. Many email programs try to group all messages in the same thread together. They do this by information which is contained in the message header which is invisible to us. When one creates a new message rather than using the reply button, their message lacks the header information which allows the recipients' email programs from placing it in the proper thread. And of course, if anyone replies to that message, their new message is also left out of the original thread even if they used the reply button. I'm also sorry for sometimes forgetting that others haven't been around since the days of bulletin boards and 300 baud acoustic modems. Netiquette is simply the word that emerged back in the dark ages to cover Etiquette on the Net. There used to be sites which enumerated rules of Netiquette covering such things as trimming replies, not flaming and not SHOUTING. I guess trimming replies was a bit more important back in the 300 baud days, but I do get really irritated by some groups I'm on where replies sometimes quote the entire content of five or six previous messages. The owners of those groups seem to not care, so I suppose I take out my frustration on you folks. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: trimming posts
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Debby wrote: > Most times I don't hit reply, just type a new email and put the "subject" > in the subject line. Although this is a good way to stay out of hot water with the list owner, it is also a violation of netiquette. If, in the middle of a complex thread, your reply is directed toward something which was said in a specific previous message, it can be quite confusing to other List readers if some context isn't established. Please everyone, I ask of you. If you don't know how to select and delete the bulk of your reply's quotation, find someone to show you. I'm sure all of you have someone close who understands these things; an aunt, a neighbor, or the kid down the block. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Trim your posts
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Caroline Warren wrote: > This message is from: Caroline Warren > > Maybe you should explain again how we do that trimming bit. If we send a > "Reply" does the previous message appear? Sorry, but some of us are just > dense. I've sent replies that never posted and always wondered why. Now I > know they've been trashed. > The closest I can offer as a blanket answer is that you need to select and delete everything in the quotation portion of you reply that is extraneous to its context. I'm very sorry, but beyond that the specifics are different for each combination of email program and operating system. Therefore it is impossible for me to give an answer that will apply to all. That is the reason I give the advice to ask a local geek or kid, so they can show you on your own setup. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Fjordlist
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Ursula & Brian Jensen wrote: > This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" > > Steve, it would be most helpful if you give us all a parameter of your > ideal expectations in the length of a narrative response to the Fjordlist? > If you are asking about how much of the original message should be quoted in the reply, I believe that every time I've had to chasten the list about trimming posts, I've stated that the quotation in the reply should be no longer than what is needed to establish context for that reply. For example, here I've removed all the references to the Jensens' use of the list. I have left the specific question which I've answered above, so if anyone missed Brian's post they would still know what prompted the answer I've given above. Finally, I've also removed the stated reason for asking the question as well as the weather report, the signature block, and the List footer. In other words, I've boiled Brian's message down to that to which I've replied and nothing more. As far as the length of the actual response, I believe there should be no limit so long as it addresses the issue raised in the original message. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: postings
This message is from: Steve McIlree Oops! The first time I sent this I overlooked the fact that the word e-n-c-o-d-i-n-g is one of the verboten ones that gets filtered out. It came to me that perhaps the problem was contained in the character e-n-c-o-d-i-n-g being used by the various email clients. Here is a possible answer I have been able to run down so far. This is from Microsoft in response to what seems to be a common problem with Live Mail. WLMail 2011 automatically âsmartensâ apostrophes and quotation marks, substituting typographersâ marks for the ones you may be used to.Check your* International Settings* at Options > Send (press Ctrl-Shift-*O* to open the*O*ptions sheet). If the default is set to Unicode, WLMail will transmit Unicode characters for apostrophes and quotation marks (and a few other characters) which will display wrongly when read by the recipient using a non-Unicode e-n-c-o-d-i-n-g . If you normally write in English or another Western language, set the default *Send* e-n-c-o-d-i-n-g to, say, Western European (Windows). If you use a serif font for composing that clearly shows the difference between the two types of character, you should be able to spot the substitution when it happens. When it does, Backspace, Ctrl-Z or a click on the *Undo *button will reverse the change. To read received messages showing weird characters, click the * E-n-c-o-d-i-n-g* * *button on the *Home *tab and select, say, Unicode (UTF-8). This last should also work for those receiving strange characters if your email client will allow you to change the character e-n-c-o-d-i-n-g to UTF-8. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: postings
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Debby wrote: > This message is from: "Debby" > > > Looks like most do have an issue and it does seem to be with the > apostrophes. ...I will try to play around and see if I can figure it out. > ...p.s. I have windows live mail, windows 7. If anyone can help me. > thanks. > Let's get a bit more input before you "play around" with anything Debby. It is obviously a bad interaction between your email client and at least one other client. From what I've seen so far the clients that are seeing the incorrect characters are Outlook and Outlook Express. The first thing to determine is if anyone else is using Windows Live Mail. If you are using that please pipe up, and be sure to include some apostrophes in your message. Then we need to isolate the bad receiver. If anyone not using a flavor of Outlook is seeing the bad characters, please pipe up. Finally, if anyone is seeing the strange characters in messages coming from people other than those who identify themselves as Windows Live Mail users, let us know so we can find out what they are using to send their email. Since Outlook and Live Mail are both MS products it's strange that there should be an incompatibility, but anything is possible in the wonderful world of computers. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Just an idea to run by you.
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > Why not a type of registration for non-breeding grade horses? Their registration could be with a > special designation that disallows breeding of these horses and that any offspring could not be > registered. This way horses that are grade (or lineage cannot be traced) could still be involved in > promoting the Fjord Horse breed and participate more fully in the Fjord community. I'm going to put my two cents in here and say I think it's a great idea, and I speak from some experience on this subject. First, there is the case of my Corgi Clust. When I got him he was too old to register with the American Kennel Club without going through a lot of paperwork and expense. But since I really wished to have him compete in AKC herding trials, I got him an Indefinite Listing Privilege. To do that I had to send several photographs of him so it could be determined that there was very little doubt that he was a Pembroke Corgi. When he was accepted, he was issued certificate and ILP number. That gives him the right to compete in any AKC sanctioned event which is open to any other Corgi with the exception of Conformation shows. Other than that he can take part in Herding Trials, Obedience Trials. Tracking Tests and Agility Trials. This program still exists with a new name with which I am not familiar. Of course there is the requirement with the AKC program that an animal in this category be spayed or neutered. Not to hard with male horses, but somewhat problematic in the case of mares. So now I will present Skipper, my late Registered PART TRAKEHNER mare. The American Trakehner Association allows mares to be registered as Full Trakehner, Anglo/Arab Trakehner or Part Trakehner. Skipper qualified for the latter as her sire was a registered Trakehner stallion and her dam was a registered American Remount, a half-Thoroughbred registry. Not only was she registered in the ATA studbook, it was possible for a female offspring after several generations of breeding to purebred Trakehner stallions to be accepted a a Full Trakehner. Then there is my experience with Pferd, my late grade Morgan. I never had any idea of his background, other than it was rumored that an old fellow, from around where I thought he had come, had been breeding some purebred Morgan stock without bothering with all that silly paperwork. Anyway, Mr. P looked enough like a Morgan that I often had longtime breeders asking about his lines. I was passionate about the breed, and became a longtime member of the American Morgan Association. I certainly couldn't have done anything more to promote Morgans if Pferd had a pedigree tracing his lineage all the way to Justin Morgan's Figure. That involvement with the breed resulted in my membership on several Morgan discussion lists, and led directly to the creation of this List. So I would encourage you to not simply dismiss Laurel's suggestion out of hand. There is merit in the idea of welcoming all who love a breed whether they own a purebred or not. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Trimming Replies -- sigh, AGAIN
This message is from: Steve McIlree I haven't been particularly diligent recently about grumping at people to trim their replies to messages, but that's because most folks have gotten pretty good about doing it without being constantly reminded. But I guess it's time to reiterate because there have been a growing number of untrimmed replies showing up recently. Maybe those guilty are new and haven't seen this rant before, or maybe they simply forgot. Anyway, here it is again. It is simple netiquette to trim the quotation of the previous message to just enough content to establish context for your reply. Usually just a line or two of the original message can accomplish this quite nicely. Here is the point that computer literacy comes into this issue. Since most email programs copy the entire original message into any replies you make, you need to be able to select those portions that are unnecessary to include and delete them. If you do not know how to select and delete with your particular email program, please ask the nearest geek or lacking a geek, ask a kid. So will failing to trim your replies bar you from posting? Well, if you are subscribed to the Individual Message format of the List, you will not have a problem other than incurring my wrath and causing irritation to other subscribers. If on the other hand, you are subscribed to the Digest format of the List and you choose to share the entire previous digest with the rest of us. you will run smack into a filter I've installed on the server and your carefully crafted reply will end up in the data dumpster. My advice here is the same as above, find a geek or a kid to show you how to delete all of the digest except for the line or two which establish context for your reply. While you're at it, you might wish to change the subject line from "Re: fjordhorse-digest V2011 #000" to one that reflects the subject line on the original message. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: horse breed genetics
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Barbara wrote: > This message is from: Barbara > > >This article came in my e-mail this morning thought some of you > might find it of interest. > Inbreeding greatest in thoroughbreds, standardbreds - research > Horsetalk.co.nz - International horse news > > Barb > Middleage Spread > Eagle Creek OR > First of all, the link Barb gives us to this very interesting article is to the Home Page of the newsletter which evidently changes content rapidly. The first time I checked it out I found a summary of the inbreeding article with direct link to the main content, but when I went back the summary and link were no longer there. So here is a link directly to the article: http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2012/01/230.shtml. So why should the folks here be interested in this study? Well, although Fjords are not specifically mentioned in the article, if you look at the accompanying table you will find that in the midst of the three breeds that are mentioned as having the highest inbreeding coefficients is nestled Norwegian Fjords. This is something that I have harped about on and off over the years. The genetic bottleneck that was introduced to the breed in the early 1900's with Njal 166, is probably responsible for a great deal of similarity of ancestry. The efforts to keep the pure dun coat has possibly also been some factor since it has undoubtedly lead to the culling of some potentially good individuals from the breeding pool because of "unacceptable" markings. And if the rumors of piebald Fjords in the 1800's has any merit, it probably took no little amount of inbreeding to get the pure dun colors as well established as they presently are. I don't believe that we can point to any specific bad results which have popped up in the breed because of a lack of diversity as one can in many dogs which have been closely bred, However, the results of this study make it clear to me that inbreeding coefficient is something that Fjord owners should probably take into consideration when deciding on suitable crosses. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Happy New Year
This message is from: Steve McIlree I hope everyone here had a great Christmas and I wish you all the best in the New Year. The List will be 14 years old at the end of March this year. I know some of you have been with us since the first week and some of you have just joined, but I believe my original vision of a virtual kitchen table where we can sit together and discuss our favorite horses continues to be realized. Our subscriber base has been remarkably consistent for the past several years hovering between 725 and 780 members. With additions since the last time I pruned inactive addresses, the current number stands at 736 total subscribers with 514 folks receiving the Digest and 195 getting the individual message version. I look forward to another fun year with our horses as the List becomes a well adjusted adolescent. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC PS. I know that discussing the details of making sausage is not for the squeamish, but I found this look at the internals of the service running our Fjordhorse Archives worth sharing with you. Below is the New Year message I just received from Jeff Briedenbach, one of the fellows who runs the server where the Archives reside. Please bear in mind they are doing this at no cost to those who store their lists' history there. Happy New Year! As 2011 ends, it is once again time to look back at The Mail Archive. First, let's talk hardware. We broke the 100 million message barrier this year, which is getting close to the design limit for our current hardware. Next year will almost certainly require a new storage system, although we'll probably wait at least a quarter as supplies continue to recover from the horrific flooding in Thailand. And who knows, maybe 2012 will be the year we finally jump completely to solid state storage. The Mail Archive typically runs at 8X replication, which turned out to be an excellent idea this past week when we lost four (!) copies due to mechanical failure of disk drives. I suspect the reason has to do with one of the failure modes of spinning disks; they seem happy but once they stop moving they don't want to start again. Hence it is not that surprising to lose multiple disks during a reboot. There was some downtime but no data loss, and we end the year with 99.7% uptime. Next let's cover financials. I'm once again proud of The Mail Archive's donations. This year we helped support the Ada Initiative, which helps women pursue engineering and technology. We donated towards disaster relief in Japan. And we're still picking out the final recipient in these waning hours of 2011. Donations are a fixed portion of advertising revenue, which unfortunately declined this year. For whatever reason, there are fewer visitors coming in from the global search engines. Fortunately, revenue still exceeds the costs of running the service. So if you or your friends have additional lists to archive or import, please go for it. Bottom line is after 13 years The Mail Archive is still going strong, but there is no danger of anyone getting rich. Finally, let's talk about fun events. By far the most challenging import this year was with the IEEE; I almost went crazy in the process but their requested material is successfully online. Big thanks to the patient folks on the IEEE side. Another set of kudos goes to the LibreOffice people; being "difficult" and "demanding" helps keep us on our toes. Thank you. In personal news, I became a father this year, so the majority of sleepless nights had nothing whatsoever to do with email. Finally, one of the charter goals of Mail Archive, Inc. is to have fun, and towards that end the three of us have booked a flight aboard a zeppelin on January 8th. Most of my knowledge about zeppelins comes from Indiana Jones movies, so I'm expecting a lot of excitement. Have a happy and healthy 2012, Mayan Apocalypse or not! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Can't Post to List
This message is from: Steve McIlree I've just had to deal with two subscribers who were complaining they haven't been able to post to the List for some time. Both were correct, they were being denied posting privileges, but for different reasons. I am going to go over the problems here in case anyone else is wondering why their posts aren't showing up. The first one is the easiest to deal with. You change your email address, but don't change your subscription. If you are receiving your email only at the new address, you will probably notice that you are no longer receiving messages from the List and fix the problem yourself. If however, you continue to receive email from your old address as well as you new one you may suddenly find yourself unable to post messages to the List. The reason is that your email program is now set up to use the new address and the List server is set up to only allow current subscribers to post. It looks at your message, sees the new address which is not in its list of subscribers, and it tosses your message into the trash bin. The answer here is if you get a new email address, be sure to unsubscribe from your old address and subscribe to your new one. The second problem is a little trickier; you have to just a little computer literate to deal with it. I haven't been particularly diligent recently about grumping at people to trim their replies to messages, but that's because most folks have gotten pretty good about doing it with being constantly reminded. But I guess it's time to reiterate. It is simple netiquette to trim the quotation of the previous message to just enough content to establish context for your reply. Usually just a line or two of the original message can accomplish this quite nicely. Here is the point that computer literacy comes into this issue. Since most email programs copy the entire original message into any replies you make, you need to be able to select those portions that are unnecessary to include and delete them. If you do not know how to select and delete with your particular email program, please ask the nearest geek or lacking a geek, ask a kid. So how does failing to trim your replies bar you from posting? Well, if you are subscribed to the Individual Message format of the List, you will not have a problem other than incurring my wrath and causing irritation to other subscribers. If on the other hand, you are subscribed to the Digest format of the List and you choose to share the entire previous digest with the rest of us. you will run smack into a filter I've installed on the server and your carefully crafted reply will end up in the data dumpster. My advice here is the same as above, find a geek or a kid to show you how to delete all of the digest except for the line or two which establish context for your reply. While you're at it, you might wish to change the subject line from "Re: fjordhorse-digest V2011 #000" to one that reflects the subject line on the original message. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
A Little Change
This message is from: Steve McIlree With the season for gift giving rapidly approaching, I have made a little change to the list. A couple of years ago, I put three links at the bottom of each message and digest. One of these was for a classified ad site which was never very much utilized, and which finally stopped working at all. I have replaced it with a link to a perfect stocking stuffer, the FjordHorse List T-shirt! Or sweatshirt, or hoodie, or whatever. The site lets you choose from a variety of shirts in all sizes, colors and materials and allows you to see what the chosen shirt will look like on a variety of different models. These shirts are reasonably priced, and feature a design by our own Pat Holland of a Fjord mare diligently perusing her FjordHorse Digest. Good news! If you order a shirt before midnight this Sunday you will get $5.00 off by using the coupon code VETERANSALE5. Note that is the number FIVE on the end of the code not the letter S. -- SteveIt is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
A Little Change
This message is from: Steve McIlree With the season for gift giving rapidly approaching, I have made a little change to the list. A couple of years ago, I put three links at the bottom of each message and digest. One of these was for a classified ad site which was never very much utilized, and which finally stopped working at all. I have replaced it with a link to a perfect stocking stuffer, the FjordHorse List T-shirt! Or sweatshirt, or hoodie, or whatever. The site lets you choose from a variety of shirts in all sizes, colors and materials and allows you to see what the chosen shirt will look like on a variety of different models. These shirts are reasonably priced, and feature a design by our own Pat Holland of a Fjord mare diligently perusing her FjordHorse Digest. Good news! If you order a shirt before midnight this Sunday you will get $5.00 off by using the coupon code VETERANSALE5. Note that is the number FIVE on the end of the code not the letter S. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Google+, Oz, vaccines
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Gayle wrote: > This message is from: "Gayle" > > Steve could you give a quick synopsis of Google+? I'd be interested if I > knew more about it? I am definitely 'computer challenged' and hope I'm not > the only one out here?? > Google+ is the newest entry into the realm of social networking services. It was introduced just over a month ago, and has been growing at a rate which far exceeds its predecessors like FaceBook and Twitter, now boasting over 25 million members. Not too shabby for a service which is still in testing and by invitation only. While this is a drop in the bucket compared to the size of FaceBook, there are many who predict it is only a matter of time before Google+ becomes the dominant service. I could go on to attempt to describe the advantages of Google+, but if you are really interested just spend a few minutes to watch the videos here: http://goo.gl/z9Ntf. If you are then interested in trying it out, just ask and I will send you an invitation. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: of interest
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com Quoting Patricia Holland : This message is from: Patricia Holland ...I can draw anything you want, black and white (pen & ink or pencil) serious work, full color (pencil & ink) logo's for letterheads, my cartoons have been accepted very well, ALL cartoons are custom drawn for YOU - many have been used on T-Shirts, trophies, signs, cards, brochures, advertising, and I have illustrated 3 books and painted full size murals on three public institutions . My work has be used by owners from the northwest, to Florida, throughout the Midwest, Canada and Europe... Something which Pat failed to mention is that way back when the List was in its infancy, she did a logo for it which we put on tee shirts. We took orders for the shirts several times, but finally ran into a complete fiasco with the printer I was using. To make a long story short after hassling with that printer and attempting to find another that would match his prices I finally refunded everyones pre-order monies after about a year delay. In order to avoid similar problems, I found an online printer where people could simply order their own shirts in any size, style and color whenever they wished. The shirts have been available since then at Zazzle, but since I haven't pushed them there have been very few orders. If you'd like to see Pat's cute design for the List's logo you can see it here: http://www.zazzle.com/fjordhorse_list_tshirt-235979709873136637. This reminds me that I once again failed to note the the anniversary of the List's inception which was March 29. It's hard to imagine that many in this group have been here since that date in 1998. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Sold pony
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com Quoting ruth bushnell : This message is from: "ruth bushnell" Did you check the link, Mary, it came from a pretty well known magazine/website. The link is broken. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Malware
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com There is some type of malware infecting members of the List. The symptom we see is a message with no subject which contains only a link to some Web site. Not pointing fingers, but the first to exhibit the problem was Susan Giargiari. I don't know if others became infected by clicking on the links in her messages or not, but as a precaution I am removing those who seem to have the infection from the List. If you find you are no longer receiving your FjordHorse List, you've probably been unsubscribed to protect the rest of the subscribers. After you've cleaned your computer, please feel free to re-subscribe. There is obviously a way to get this malware off your system, because Susan's computer seems to be now free of it. If you see one of these subjectless messages, please DO NOT click on the link it contains. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Setting up a paddock
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com Quoting Lori Albrough : This message is from: Lori Albrough On the vegetation question. I think a Fjord confined to any sort of area less than about an acre in size is going to eat it down to nothing in fairly short order...whatever you see left behind is less desirable and therefore might be poisonous, so if it is a small area I would identify it and probably dig it out before the horse gets bored and finishes that off too. Our guys have managed to eat all but cacti and yuccas. I don't really think that their giving these a pass has anything to do with poison, rather the plants very sharp natural defenses. They have never become so bored that they were willing to ignore the spines, although they have discovered the sweet treats provided by yucca flowers. One horse will bend the flower stalk down and hold it while the other eats the flowers off. During the rainy season, they do get a crop of goats' heads (puncture vine) which they completely eventually eat. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Google Street View Fjords
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com Quoting Karen McCarthy : This message is from: Karen McCarthy Steve, Teddy's expression is hysterical! "Hey, look at me, don't you want to feed me a treat or at least pet me?" he says. Not to sound disparaging, but your road seems little more than a dirt track (no gravel? how fun is that when it rains ;~() No offence taken, it IS a dirt track. When the annual rainfall amounts to 9.97 inches and the soil is mostly sand, you really don't worry too much about mud. When it does rain, it soaks in fast except to the north of us where it accumulates in a couple foot deep low spot in the road we call Cougar Lake. When the lake has water it usually takes several weeks to dry (that's probably because the total rainfall generally takes place in a span of about three weeks). Since the lake covers the road from fence to fence for a length of about 150 feet, we don't bother to use that part of the road then. One positive thing about the lake is it gives the spade foot toads a place to come out of their burrows and breed. While Cougar Lake has water, it is nearly impossible to hear anything other than a gazillion croaking toads. We don't much worry about mosquitoes, because a larvae stands zero chance with all the tadpoles. In Doña Ana County maintained roads have a green road name sign, unmaintained roads have a red sign. Needless to say, Cougar Lane is bright red. I guess that is because roads here just kind of happen. Somebody decides they would like to build a house out in the middle of that open patch and by the time construction has been completed, a new road has been created from the traffic. Still it would be nice to get a couple County truck loads of dirt dumped in Couger Lake. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Imagine my Surprise
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com I recently got a new camera which is a new make for me. As I'm sure anyone who does much photography knows, changing camera brands means looking at the choice lenses compatible with the new one. So I was just looking at a site which compares a couple tele-zooms which will both fit my new camera. Imagine my surprise when I scrolled down to the pictures of the comparable autofocus response of the two lenses to find a series of pictures of a nice little Fjord being driven to a marathon vehicle. I guess since the poster is from the Netherlands it should be less of a surprise, but it is nice it isn't a Friesian or Dutch Warmblood. Here is the link to the site. Be warned you have to scroll down quite a way for the Fjord. -- http://tinyurl.com/476r3fa -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Google Street View Fjords
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com Here is the link for our guys. As you can see, the ever curious Teddy has just run to the fence to see what the weird car that just drove by is doing. "Maybe it's someone coming to feed us!" The more less excitable Tank and Nigel can been seen in the run-in shed in the back. "We'll move when the food actually gets here." -- http://tinyurl.com/4hfgc8x -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Sarcoid Treatment
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com After having the experience of trying a number of unsuccessful treatments for a sarcoid in the saddle area on my late Anglo-trakehner mare, I found this article interesting: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=17568 -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Question for you Texans
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com Quoting Rose or Murph : I am wondering if anyone is living in the El Paso, TX area? My husband did a phone interview for a Fed position at FT Bliss in El Paso. Just wanted to get anyone's opinion good or bad about living there. To make this Fjord related, how does your Fjord handle the heat? What is summer riding like, or does it exist when it is that hot? Although happily not Texans, Cynthia and I are probably the closest to being in El Paso as anyone here. We are in Las Cruces, New Mexico, which is just 40 miles up the Rio Grande from the big city. El Paso is where folks from Cruces go for big city shopping and entertainment if they're not going to make the trek to Albuquerque. Although El Paso lies just a usually dry river away from the deadliest city in the Universe (Juarez, Mexico), it has been designated the safest city in the US in each of the past several years. Somehow the drug cartel anarchy of Juarez seems to remain south of the border with nothing save a few stray bullets making to our side. That bit of ugliness aside, El Paso is a pleasant city with good shopping, entertainment, and great restaurants. Ft. Bliss is on its way to being the largest Army base in the US, but there seems to be little direct effect on the larger community. That is to say, that as far as I can see there aren't the strips of GI bars and pawn shops one finds in most military towns. While I'm sure that the base has a tremendous economic effect on the city, it seems to me that the culture is influenced to a far greater extent by the proximity of Mexico than that of the Army. In the 2000 census, the Hispanic population of the city pushed 77%, and currently up closer to 80%. This has the effect of making the city truly bilingual, however you will be hard pressed to find anywhere that you need to speak Spanish. One Web site says, "El Paso is the cultural center of the Southwest, enriched for more than four centuries by contributions from Native Americans, Spanish settlers, Europeans and Asians. The city?s international flavor is apparent in the variety of cultural facilities and events, 18 museums, more than 35 art galleries and 28 resident visual artists of national acclaim." You should be aware that this is not Arizona. Although it is across the state line, the attitude of El Paso is not typical of Texas either; it is much closer to laid back culture of mañana we experience in New Mexico. As far as Fjords living in the weather here, ours have little problem. Although hot in the summer, it is nothing like Florida, or even the Midwest. The temperature can get into the three digits, but there is almost no humidity to accompany it. The horses stay in the shade during the hottest times and seem to be comfortable. Although nobody does much with their horses during the day at the height of summer, the early mornings and late evenings are generally quite pleasant. And of course there is the advantage here of having no snow or rain during the winter months to curtail horse activities. One thing that is a bit of a problem for keeping Fjords here is that most of the available hay is alfalfa. Although we have found sources of good grass hay, it is best to lay in a year's worth at a time to be assured of access. If you have to board, you will find that nobody here is willing to listen to advice or demands of proper feeding of a Fjord, and your horses will be doomed to being FAT. Please bear in mind that this is the Chihuahuan Desert, so you will find it nothing like Washington. You will be trading rain forest for cactus and mesquite, but there is a charm to the latter. Falls and Winters here are very pleasant, followed by the winds and dust storms in April. Summer hopefully brings the "monsoons" when we receive the bulk of our rainfall. The Interstate between Las Cruces and El Paso will soon be all six or eight lanes, so you might consider looking for housing here also. Right now we can make it from our house to the El Paso airport (same as Ft. Bliss) in about an hour, and we are twelve miles off the Interstate. If you have any questions I've not covered, please feel free to address them to me or Cynthia off list. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: webmaster
This message is from: st...@carriagehorse.com Quoting crystalzak : sorry to post this to the list, but the mail address for changing email keeps bouncing back my mail. I can't think what the problem might be. I just sent a successful message to the Majordomo address from a qwest server. Are you using the address: majord...@angus.mystery.com? -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
This link came on my local horse club list
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" http://www.arbico-organics.com/category/free-trial The lady who sent the link tried them herself and was very pleased. Thought I would pass it on. I want to try them myself. Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Farm Moulton AL Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Another link - a lovely painting
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" http://www.karenbrenner.com/beautiful_horses_of_OHIO_gallery_page_2.html Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Found a lovely photo or Ulend and Solvar I think =D
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockandracehorses/3321937612/ Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Farm Moulton AL Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjord featured in news article from Oregon
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080918/LIFE/809180301/-1 /OREGONOUTDOORS01 Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Farm Moulton AL Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: FUGLY takes aim
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" Well, this is my last bit on Parelli for a while, sorry if I come across harsh in my earlier post but sometimes I feel I must defend my friends. This is one of the friends I speak of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYxUslXd7YQ The following paragraph is what I wrote to Debby [miss.am...@earthlink.net] in private email, by the way we had a nice debate discussion off the list. =) This is my take on the video of LP and the half blind horse, and I was so shocked when I first saw that bit on a Parelli dvd that I watched it over and over until I thought I understood what the heck LP thought she was doing ... ~~~ I don't think LParelli handled that half blind horse well either. I do not agree with everything they do. I am not one of their blind followers. In her defense though, the horse's owner had come out to join the group with his horse. The horse put its head up and started looking out into the distance just looking for something to spook at. The horse was behaving downright dangerously, too dangerously to even lead it back to the barn. When LP took the lead she was attempting (very badly I might add) to get the horse away from her and for it to stand still until it decided it would rather be calm with its people than frightened out by itself. Kinda like slapping someone who has gotten into a complete screaming panic and won't stop! Only when it relaxed would she let it stand with them. And I have never been a fan of those big metal clasps hanging from the halters. I thought she had several chances to stop and see if the horse would relax but she just kept whamming it ... maybe she saw something in its behavior that I couldn't see though. I doubt the horse was harmed mentally or physically from what I saw in the video. But I can't help but think there had to have been a better way. The horses owner said that he is horrified that so much negative has been made from that video, he said that Linda and the Parelli course helped him and his horse a lot. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Parelli again
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" "Debby" wrote: Why do you have horses? It doesn't sound as if you like your horses. I'm sad for you, if this is how you feel about your horses. But mostly I'm sad for your horses. I hope that you can get with some of your friends and do something positive with your horses to make them happy horses and to make you feel better about having them. Please do put the whip down. I don't believe the whip was meant as a means to "threaten", but an extension of ones leg and an extension of ones arm. I'm afraid the term "whip" is missunderstood. I never carry a bucket of grain, nor hand treats, but I have lots of hugs and rubs to give and that can do wonders for the ponys and for yourself. Take time for them, with them. ~ Hi Debby, Don't feel sad for me or my horses! I understand perfectly the two uses for a whip: 1) to use as an aid to cue a horse, 2) to deliver a quick 'bite' much like a lead mare would do when a horse misbehaves but without the damage she could inflict. If I go out to carry an armful of hay to the barn with my little herd of horses following me, I would be stupid to not carry a whip. They would be very rudely snatching mouthfuls! While I turned to yell at one horse another would be grabbing the hay and most likely pulling a full flake of it to the ground! With a whip, all I have to do is wave it, or at most smack a chest with it no harder than I would my own denim clad leg, and they respect me as I carry hay to the barn ... shrug, what's the big deal? Most of the time I find myself in a pickle and wishing I had remembered to bring my whip out! Now, my point was, my Parelli friends horses simply wouldn't treat my friends so rudely to begin with! I carry buckets of feed to Solly and Dorina twice a day, and they do love being fed! I do not need to bribe them with food. I can call them to me or walk up to catch any of them at any time with very few exceptions. Oh, and my ponies pester me endlessly when I go out into their pasture with or without food, the same as yours, but it isn't because I am their leader and they just want to be with me, it is, I feel, because I amuse them! How does that make them unhappy? And no, I do not spend enough time with them as I should, but ask them if that makes them unhappy! The time I do spend with them is full and happy, and they are very well behaved (usually) and I love them and they do enjoy my company ... like I said, I amuse them. And I do get myself and my ponies out with friends to goof off in arenas and to trail rides in Bankhead fairly regularly in good weather. I just don't spend a fraction of the time with them as my more accomplished horsey friends spend with theirs. What did I say to make you think for a minute that my horses are unhappy? You must be reading things between the lines that I did not write nor even hint at. Please, reread my post, I took great pains to make myself understood ... Meredith Sessoms Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Feeding a colt under training
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" I have finally found a trainer who is endorsed by two friends and is near enough I can just hop in the car and visit my pony on a whim. The trainer feeds alfalfa and works them fairly heavily once he has them understanding that their job is to do some work for us. So ... if I switch Arlo over from Bermuda to alfalfa and have him on Safe Choice for a pellet feed, is that good enough or should I add or change to another feed for balanced nutrition? Thanks for any input. Meredith Sessoms Tooksend Norwegian Fjordhorses Moulton AL USA Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Please Help R.E.A.D. Program
This message is from: Steve McIlree I know many of you had the opportunity to meet my Corgi, Clust, at the 25th celebration in Winona. At that time I may have shared with you that he is a registered therapy dog. In addition, he is a registered Reading Education Assistance Dog (R.E.A.D.). This is a program, which utilizes dogs who are registered with other recognized therapy groups to help children overcome literacy problems. The concept behind this is that many troubles that youngsters have with reading stem from feelings of inadequacy when read aloud to peers or adults. This feeling of pressure to perform sets up a negative feedback situation and the child reads worse. The Reading Assistance Dogs provide totally non-judgmental listeners for the kids to practice their reading skills, while the human team member sometimes offers help by speaking for the dog. It is a very fulfilling opportunity to help youngsters with the development of an vital life skill. The Intermoutain Therapy Animals group which provides a registry for the R.E.A.D. program has an opportunity to receive a generous grant from Better World Books. The final recipient of this grant is to be determined by a Internet popular vote. The Reading Dogs now stand in second place. I would like to ask all of you to visit the ITA Web site at http://www.therapyanimals.org/Vote.html, and follow the directions you will find there to cast a vote for this worthwhile literacy program. Please do is soon as the voting ends on January 20. Thanks in advance, Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fingers Crossed
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" Steve McIlree wrote: Now that I know it will get through, I'd like to wish everyone a belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! ____ Thank you, Steve, for giving us our Fjord-L. Thank you for fixing it for us and putting up with us when there are problems. A belated Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours! Meredith Sessoms Moulton AL Dorina, NFR Aagot, TK Anjanette, TK Arlo and Sollyskur Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fingers Crossed
This message is from: Steve McIlree OK, I've got my fingers crossed here. It looks as if all the problems that have plagued the list since clear back around Thanksgiving have now been fixed. Hopefully, we will be getting Digests which in fact are digests of a day's worth of traffic. And hopefully, those of you have been unable to post to the list while the rapairs were being done will have no problems now getting through. I do apologize to those who had to suffer deprivation of the List for the past month, and I hope everyone will now jump in and make up for lost communications. Now that I know it will get through, I'd like to wish everyone a belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Digest
This message is from: Steve McIlree > For several days, I've been receiving individual messages instead of the daily > digest. Please advise how to revert to receiving one email a day with all of > the posts. > > I can't say for sure, but your message provides some hope. There has been a problem with the List server since last weekend. Hopefully, since your message made it through and since it hasn't yet arrived as a single message Digest, it is now OK. I've backed off bugging Gabe, who runs mystery.combecause I sympathize with his being hip-deep in alligators. Since your message has arrived, seemingly without problem, I'd encourage all to start using the List again and we will see what happens. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Server Problems
This message is from: Steve McIlree There has been a bit of a problem with the server at mystery.com. If you have sent any messages since Friday afternoon, chances are pretty good that they have ended up in the bit bucket. Gabe thinks everything is now running as it should, so this message is in the way of a test. If you see it then it is now safe to once again use the List. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Instructions to manage subscriptions are found at: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e The FjordHorse List archives are found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Archives
This message is from: Steve McIlree The archives are provided by a third party. I will contact them but that I all I can do about it. I will let everyone know what I find out. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: love to be a member again. I've missed it.
This message is from: Steve McIlree Carol Rivoire wrote: > Steve, > I understand that there is no connection between the List and the NFHR, nor > any other organization. > Carol Rivoire Welcome to the FjordHorse List. I have started a subscription for you to the Digest format. Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Ethanol and Hay
This message is from: Steve McIlree Is the ethanol you're putting in your car or truck endangering your horse? http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=12413 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Carol Rivoire and the FjordHorse List
This message is from: Steve McIlree First, let me state that I am much saddened by the passing of a great Fjord stallion. Gjest has had and will continue to have a major impact on the Fjord breed in North America. My deepest sympathy goes out to Carol Rivoire for her loss. I would like to clear up the idea that Carol is not allowed on the FjordHorse List. It has been some time since she chose to leave the List. The problem began after I limited her posting privleges for repeated violations of standing rules about advertising. Carol then vehemently complained to the NFHR Board of Directors. Since, as Mike has stated, the operation of this List has nothing to do with the Registry, I informed Carol that her posting privileges would be suspended indefinitely until she sent a message to the List stating she fully understood that this List was owned and operated as a private service and had no connection whatsoever with the NFHR. At that point she chose to unsubscribe from the List. Since then she has never attempted to resubscribe. I will state here to that portion of Fjord Horse community represented on the FjordHorse List that Carol Rivoire is welcome back as a subscriber any time, so long as she willing to abide by all rules of the List and will publicly acknowledge that there is no connection between the List and the NFHR nor any other organization. Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Address of the List
This message is from: Steve McIlree OK, I guess it's time to try once again to get everyone using the correct address for the FjordHorse List. The only address that is correct is " fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com". For some reason people often send messages to " owner-fjordho...@angus.mystery.com". The owner is me, therefore those messages come straight to my inbox and never reach others on the List. The same happens to messages which are addressed to " owner-fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com". Now, I used to be a nice guy and redirect messages sent to "owner" on to the List as a whole, but in my old age I have decided it is easier for you folks to do it right than for me to clean up after you several times each week. Another bad address that is repeatedly used is " fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com". I understand, it makes sense if you receive the Digest format of the List then that is where you should send your messages. Well, they do get to the List; but depending on how folks have their email programs set up they may get misdirected on people's individual computers. So just to avoid any such problems please remember, the only correct address for the list is "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com". Thanks, Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Subscription Management
This message is from: Steve McIlree I will say this now, and I will probably have to repeat it at some yet-to-be-determined intervals. At the bottom of every message and Digest you folks receive from the List is a link labeled "Subscription Management". By that I hoped to convey in a couple words, "Here is where to go to find out how to get on the List, get off the List, or change your email address." Since following the directions you find at that Web page is just as easy as sending a message to me or the List asking to be unsubscribed or have your email address changed, I have hoped most people could take care of their changes by themselves. I have therefore recently made it a policy to ignore requests for changes. If you have asked me to unsubscribe you and find you are still getting the list, it's because I'm ignoring you. If you sent out a mass email address change to everyone in your address book and the List is still going to your old address, it's because I'm ignoring you. Please folks, grow up and do it yourself! -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Treeless saddle
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" I have a Barefoot treeless saddle and I love mine. I use a Grandeur pad with it, with or without a Mayatex saddle blanket, and I won't go out on the trail without a breastplate. I started using the Mayatex under the Grandeur when I became concerned about keeping some wool between my horse and the foam cell in the Grandeur on long hot rides. I think the breastplate is the key to keeping it from slipping. Since I started using a breastplate I have had no slippage problems. Before I got one, saddle slipping was a problem on my round-backed Anjee. I think you also have to be especially vigilant not to mount up without a mounting block with a treeless. If you do have to mount without a block, be sure to lift with your weight as close to the horse as possible until you can put your balance in the middle so as not to shift the saddle. Meredith Sessoms Moulton AL ~ Dorina, Sollyskur, NFR Aagot, TK Anjanette, and baby boy TK Arlo ~ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
OT: Space Shuttle Atlantis
This message is from: Steve McIlree This isn't Fjord related, but since I know the List owner I will post it anyway. As many of you know, I am at Cynthia's while she recovers from a broken knee. The sound of high performance aircraft is not unusual, since the house is located within spitting distance of the White Sands Missile Range, and just on the other side of the Range is Holloman AFB which previously had F117 Stealths and now has F22 Raptors. But this morning I was shaken by what sounded like a jet landing in the pasture. I hurried outside to see the 747 with the Space Shuttle Atlantis fly directly over my head at an altitude of about 500 feet. Truly an awesome sight and sound. A quick search of Google brought the information that the shuttle had departed Edwards AFB this morning and was scheduled to spend the night at Biggs Field in El Paso. When I stopped at a local cafe for lunch, there were several people from NASA's White Sands Test Facility there. The NASA site is just a couple miles from the house. The folks at the restaurant confirmed my suspicion that the super low flyover had been a favor from the pilot for the personnel there. To make this a little less off-topic, this is the second time I had the shuttle ferry fly right over my head. The first time was some 24 years ago when Space Shuttle Columbia passed over me on its way to a touchdown at Offutt AFB. At the time I was sitting on horseback next to a windmill. I've always been struck by the contrast in modes of travel that moment represented. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Shooting Fjords
This message is from: Steve McIlree > Does anyone out there have a spare or know of a place I can find one? > Here are the specifics > Canon CB-2LW > Battery Charger NB- > 2L/NB-2LH > Any help would be appreciated...uj B&H Photo http://tinyurl.com/ks3ux3 shows the charge as being "In Stock" for $18.95. I have dealt with B&H many times with always great results. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Glory Bits
This message is from: Steve McIlree I don't have any bits for sale. That message was from Jen Frame . The original message was rejected by the List server, and somehow when I approved it for posting it ended up looking as if it came from me. If you are interested in the bits, please contact Jen. -- Steve McIlree Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Cynthia Madden
This message is from: Steve McIlree Susan Cargill wrote: Steve - could you give us an update on her condition? If, she is going to be hospitalized for a few days, I would appreciate the name of the hospital. I'm sure she would enjoy notes and cards. I really don't know any more than you at this time. She was going to call, but I haven't heard from here yet. I do know that the particular procedure she was having done is classified by the insurance company as outpatient surgery so she should be in the hospital under 24 hours. She isn't home yet, but it wouldn't be 24 hours until tomorrow morning. I will definitely keep everyone informed as I hear anything. I will be going down to New Mexico next week to care for the critters until she get back on her feet. I'm know she would appreciate notes sent to cynt...@carriagehorse.com or 7280 Cougar Ln, Las Cruces NM 88012. -- Steve Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Doing the Right Thing for the Wrong Reasons
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" Ooooh, Kate! Congratulations on getting one of the prettiest little Fjord mares on the planet! If you haven't seen her yet, when you do, you will see where dear Joe gets his darling teddy bear looks. If I am not mistaken ... she got top honors in conformation at the evaluation under Dr. von Bon several years ago. Meredith Sessoms Moulton AL Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjord at clinic photos
This message is from: "Steve Sessoms" Who is the lovely Fjordie in the Carol Walker photos from the Piaffe and Passage with Manuel Trigo in Franktown CO in 2008? Is it Obie? Hope the link works. http://www.livingimagescjw.com/CLIENTS/08PiaffePassage/08PiaffePassage-1.htm Meredith Sessoms Moulton AL Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
