Re: Libby and Fun Fest
This message is from: Barbara Lynch fjo...@lynchfarms.com I'm really confident that any venue Fjord people have will have this same family feeling that has been present at Libby and the Fun Fest. This is just how Fjord people are! After all, home is where the heart is and any place Fjord people gather is home for the Fjord family. I am so excited about both our shows this year! - Original Message - From: Sherrie Dayton sunw...@jrcda.com To: Fjord digest fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 5:24 PM Subject: Libby and Fun Fest This message is from: Sherrie Dayton sunw...@jrcda.com Hi all, This year PNFPG will undertake a new location for our International Fjord Horse Show. It will be in Davenport Washington from August 14 through 16th. There are lots of riding classes, fun classes and lots of driving classes, single horse, pairs and 4 in-hands. We will have a pot luck and auction on Saturday evening. Davenport is a small farming town about 30 miles west of Spokane Washington on highway 2. Very easy to get to. We're hoping to recreate the wonderful atmosphere that Libby always had. We're hoping the change of venue will attract some that never made it Libby due to the distance or the dates since it was always after school started. The contact people for this show are Holly Finnoe and Susie Sabatini. We are also doing our 2nd annual Fun Fest in Pasco Washington June 26-28. This is an open show so everyone is welcome. Bring your non Fjord friends and show them what we all love! There are clinics scheduled on Friday with showing on Saturday and Sunday. Everyone that was there last year had a lot of fun and the non Fjord folks commented on how nice and friendly we Fjord folks were. Gretchen Payne is the contact person for this show. All the info on both shows is available at PNFPG.org, click on the calendar tab and scroll down. The show packets, class descriptions, everything is all there. We'd love to see a bunch of you guys at either or both of these shows. Come help us start new memories and traditions. Sherrie Dayton sunw...@jrcda.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Libby and Fun Fest
This message is from: jerry jfri...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Sherrie Dayton Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 5:24 PM To: Fjord digest Subject: Libby and Fun Fest This message is from: Sherrie Dayton sunw...@jrcda.com Hi all This year PNFPG will undertake a new location for our International Fjord Horse Show. It will be in Davenport Washington from August 14 through 16th. There are lots of riding classes, fun classes and lots of driving classes, single horse, pairs and 4 in-hands. We will have a pot luck and auction on Thanks Sherrie, for letting us know. I'll try to make it over. Jerry in Puyallup Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Jean I completely forgot about Orville's snafu. Knowing Orville it was all taken in stride. We didn't have any major problems that weekend. Hey if you have pics put them in a FB album share the link, would love to see them. If I rememebr you were a hazard judge, right? One think I remember was driving cones on the baseball diamond, what fun! :: Karen McCarthy :: Great Basin Fjords :: Madras, Oregon :: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:59:34 -0800 Subject: RE: Libby Show Memories From: jern...@mosquitonet.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Libby Show Memories
This message is from: jern...@mosquitonet.com And I have pictures of that CDE! I think that was in 1992, Orville had a four-up with Anvil's Regin and Anvil's Rider, got stuck around a tree as I remember, I'll have to post the pics on Facebook or something. What I remember about that year is that while I was in Montana and Idaho it had snowed at home in Fairbanks,AK with leaves still on the trees, 11 inches of snow, earliest ever, power out for a week when I got home. And the early snow never left.till spring! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the fall colors are gorgeous and temps about 60. Just a minor correction to your post however. In 1992 (?) I put on a CDE clinic there, and the following year we did a mini CDE using the Libby fairgrounds and the USFS property across the highway. One of our hazards utilized the old stock loading ramp in the woods. There are still a few NW Fjord folks out there who participated who read this list.Remember? Thought so ; ))Trot on! Karen in Oregon...the hay is all in and done and we're happy campers! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Libby
This message is from: Karl Jerrie Froelich [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was at Libby for my 2nd visit. I thought it was a wonderful event. The parade was terrific fun, the Lasseseesseeens (?) costumes were a delight. It was a pleasure seeing all the farm equipment demo'ed, and Jeff Lisa Pederson did a great job with their four-in-hand. Libby is a gorgeous venue, and the show has a very intimate feel to it. There was time to meet people and talk to them. Plus there's the entertainment - watching Ron D. Dancing at the potluck is a sight I'll never forget! Kudos to all who worked on the show to bring it about. I'll have a public site with pictures and video's up tomorrow. K. - Original Message - From: oe Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: Libby This message is from: oe Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am sorry for all the negativity. I personally really like Fred and Lois and I wish Lois better health. They were the first Fjord people that we met when we went to Libby for the first time. They have always treated us very well. Libby this year was smaller but none the less wonderful. The competitors were happy and very friendly to each other. Sharing equipment and helping each other out. Just like Libby always is. The weather was spectacular and according to Dick Springs, so was the fishing. We had a good crowd of people come to see the show on Saturday and I think that they enjoyed it. We followed Jeff and Lisa and Laura up I 15 and barring a few problems, which Jeff fixed with his usual smile. The horses are so patient. I love Fjords. After bedding them down on Thursday, we sat around and visited with everyone. This is one of the highlights of Libby. Met Rune Lassessen(sp) for the first time and saw Catherine's Buhund puppies. They are pretty awesome. We missed seeing Amy. The show went very smoothly and for the first time we saw what Howard's farm implements could really do. That man is amazing. Hauling all the implements around in that big red trailer. He needs a blue ribbon for effort. The Nordicfest people fed us the first night and every morning there were Huckleberry pancakes. Back on my diet now. It was great to see new horses and watch their abilities. These Fjords are a joy to be around. Jeff and Lisa Pedersen are wonderful friends and so willing to share what they know and do. We ask tons of questions and they don't seem to tire of passing on their experience and wisdom. It was great to see Laura again. We met her at Winona and she has become a good friend. Just don't get her going on trivial pursuit. She has an abundance of little known facts. Sorry this is so long, just had to get it out. Pat Wilson Uff Da Fjords Hyde Park, UT PS: I won Sherry Dayton's Fjord wall hanging. Eat your hearts out it is great The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I spent several sleepless hours (between 10pm and 3 AM last night!) trying to figure out what should be done about Northwest Fjord activities. Gail I agree Gail, this is a disturbing turn of events. From the perspective of those who have longtime loved the Libby show, and those who feel outrage over a major injustice done the Packs by the club--- it appears the PNFPG club as we once knew it has gone amuck. First, their deposit on the ML show accommodation before any member consensus was taken, then, the rule that anyone voting on the ML proposition must attend in person in order to vote. Those members adjacently handy and highly motivated easily passed the proposal. Then, just to be sure there was no further opposition to their triumph.. a club rule was passed that no disparaging word, by any member, might be spoken in their direction. This places those of us who have been left behind in somewhat of a predicament, if we dare protest we can be cast out of the club, and we need that membership to enter a show. And, in order to have any kind of representation in the club, one must travel to the meetings a great distance. Small wonder we feel bound, gagged, and victimized. No other breed show in America dictates their members words and behavior OFF-showsite. We pay dues but have no vote--taxation without representation, and we have no freedom of speech.. sounds very un-American. If it wasn't for Steve McIlree allowing us the privilege of speaking here on this list, the majority of the Fjord world would not even be aware of our plight. Thank you. It occurs to me that it is unfortunate that the NFHR has no tie or oversight over regional clubs. (The president of this club does not even belong to the registry?) To my knowledge, those who support Libby have wanted the Moses Lake effort to succeed, not at the sacrifice of Libby of course--but apparently this good will is not reciprocal, Moses Lake proponents are not satisfied to do well-- they further require the destruction of the Libby show, using every possible means to ensure that end.. by arbitrarily scheduling their show just prior to the Libby show, and by once again publishing negative scare rhetoric about asbestos just prior to the show. It does appear to us that the club has mutantly evolved into an entity that cares nothing about some of their least deemed members. When Gene found out about the Packs being refused entrance to the shows this year, he said, I'm not going! We feel a profound sense of injustice for the Packs--they have not been professionally and ethically dealt with as should be required by any club. A 3-yr penalty, or maybe more, for alleged unsafe behavior AFTER show hours is nothing short of ludicrous ! particularly so because Packs were not granted a hearing. If the club now feels pleased that some western breeders and members have been squeezed out of their ranks, (the list is growing) there has to be something basically flawed with that club! Idealism has taken precedence over realism, exclusivity over inclusivity. You've heard of the cart before the horse, well this is the club before the horse, a club more important than the Fjord horse--because if the Fjord horse is our purpose for existing we would be making every possible extension for their all-inclusive individual good, not thinking of ways to exclude some. Plus, the overall benefit of the Fjord brotherhood should be paramount, to promote Fjords we must additionally promote their people. These unfortunate events can not be re-wound, all we can do is focus on how we might best resolve this sorry impasse.. it is time to make lemonade out of the lemon we've been dealt. Obviously, those in authority over the club have no desire for diplomacy or negotiated compromise, therefore a house divided against itself cannot stand. I am NOT speaking on behalf of the Libby show, but it personally seems to me that it would be far better to split the club in two than continue incremental losses to our Fjord support at Libby. Your comment about the gas and distance is a good point. We need our own regional club, one that puts Fjords first and foremost, one that cares about everyone who cares about Fjords, which would even include dissentious factions-- if we are truly to regard EVERY Fjord. =))) We're all for starting that club-- one that welcomes member opinions, allows everyone a mailed vote, one that earns respect through fair dealing, courtesy, and is without discrimination. Granted, perhaps one less sophisticated, but maybe with an acronym everyone can remember, hah. Now that we have been stripped of our assets this may be difficult, but it is not impossible-it was done once upon a time and it can be done again. Ruthie Bushnell, nw mt US The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby-----not a death sentence
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis - Rune and I will be at Libby this year... I am not too concerned with the situation I am sure that the exposure of bomb fall out from the testing of bombs in the Las Vegas, NV area would have more concern... but the tourist keep coming to Las Vegas... I lived in Vegas (1970's) and remember the blasts that would rock the ground... Can't wait to see you and Marge there... Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden Hundehaven - The Dog Heaven www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-541-825-3027 Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby MT
This message is from: Frederick J Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of you that wish to read the text of the PBS POV, go to: http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2007/libbymontana/special_02.html It is also available on that site as a podcast. I would point out that the PBS report is from 1999. For a report from the EPA on the cleanup, go to: http://www.epa.gov/region8/superfund/libby/cleanup.html I stand more chance of injury driving to and from Seattle than living in Libby. This is now nothing more than a tempest in a teapot. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] By chance, did anyone see the documentary about Libby on Spokane PBS last night? A timely wake-up call for sure. I just wish I had seen it years ago. For those of you wishing to become informed about the asbestos issue, go to the KSPS PBS website for availability or the next viewing. uj The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby ad nauseum
This message is from: oe Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya Hoo Lois ! I love Libby. It was the first place that OE and I were exposed to a multitude of Fjords. It is a special place and a beautiful place to show horses. The facilities have been updated and the sceanery(sp) is beyond description. Besides the fishing is spectacular (right Jeff and Dick). As long as there is a show there, we will go because if feels like going home when we come out of the canyon and head into town. I'm sure Moses Lake was great, but it will never replace Libby for me. Pat Wilson UFF Da Fjords The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby ad nauseum
This message is from: fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] When PNFPG voted to have a show in Moses Lake the only available date in 2007 was this past weekend unless PNFPG wanted to have it the weekend of Libby. That wasn't even considered as an option. It isn't an either/or situation. There is no reason two shows can't be held so we have 3 different venues to enjoy. Spring Fling, NW Fjord Show and Libby. There are a number of ideas floating around and information being gathered so the shows would not be held so close together. These will be presented at the fall PNFPG meeting on November 3rd at the Best Western in Moses Lake. If you want a say in what happens - come to the meeting. I'm tired of all of the accusations, bickering and nasty remarks. We are all Fjord lovers and I would hope we could all act more like adults. Join in the efforts for a solution so we can have 3 times a year to get together and enjoy our Fjords and friends (right now I'm using that term loosely). Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oe Wilson Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:49 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Libby ad nauseum This message is from: oe Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya Hoo Lois ! I love Libby. It was the first place that OE and I were exposed to a multitude of Fjords. It is a special place and a beautiful place to show horses. The facilities have been updated and the sceanery(sp) is beyond description. Besides the fishing is spectacular (right Jeff and Dick). As long as there is a show there, we will go because if feels like going home when we come out of the canyon and head into town. I'm sure Moses Lake was great, but it will never replace Libby for me. Pat Wilson UFF Da Fjords The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=NzYwNTU6MzkxMjY5ODU1Om Zqb3Jkc0Bud2dhbWViaXJkcy5jb20%3D The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby
This message is from: greta cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] As one who has recently lost her mother to a horrifically painful death from Multiple Myeloma (bone marrow cancer which has no known cause and no cure) as well as my father-in-law to asbestoses cancer I am sensitive to this issue. I seek information and make decisions based upon what I have learned. Sharing information with others is what I do and hope others will do with me. I expect people to make up their own mind with the information they gain and do what works for them. I have attended the Libby show with my family and fjords for the past six years and have been involved with the show committee for three years. The Libby community in very generous, the show has been a great experience and given my family and I many wonderful memories and new friends. This is not about one show or another. The focus is on information and personal decisions. This list is a great source of information for all to use as they see fit. We all have a delete button on our computer and can choose to use it whenever we please. I am not a breeder and have nothing to gain. I am however a proponent of the breed and will continue to do my best to advocate for the fjord horse in all its facets. Greta Cook This message is from: Lois Anne Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] You said it Fred! Thank you for the updated site report, link by the way. I was just discussing this very thing with another list member last night and today. It is amazing to what lengths people will go to for politics and money. Why denegrate one well established fun show for any other purpose than to obtain potential revenue from it? You don't like Libby, don't come and certainly don't deliberately ruin it for those who do like it using outdated reports of contamination!!! (And yes, I have spent HOURS researching this!) This fearmongering for private gain and status has got to stop, and if this ruffles feathers and makes enemies...there are plenty of other people in the world I can deal with! Let's get the focus back on Fjords, not on money and whose got the biggest, bestest shiniest show of all. I'll go back to semi-lurking now... *For a report from the EPA on the cleanup, go to: **http://www.epa.gov/region8/superfund/libby/cleanup.html*http://www.epa.go v/region8/superfund/libby/cleanup.html *I stand more chance of injury driving to and from Seattle than living in Libby. This is now nothing more than a tempest in a teapot. Fred _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxm kt=en-us The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby ad nauseum
This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, There is no reason not to have two shows. However, the Moses Lake show needs to be in June, possibly in conjunction with the PNFPG Spring meeting. This will solve two problems. First - weather [this year's was Not typical, it's usually Much hotter in August]. Any local will tell you this. Second - it would not pose such a problem for exhibitors who can't attend two shows so close together, thus having to choose between them. Also, this change might allow some healing within the organization. Peg Knutsen - Original Message - From: fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: RE: Libby ad nauseum This message is from: fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] When PNFPG voted to have a show in Moses Lake the only available date in 2007 was this past weekend unless PNFPG wanted to have it the weekend of Libby. That wasn't even considered as an option. It isn't an either/or situation. There is no reason two shows can't be held so we have 3 different venues to enjoy. Spring Fling, NW Fjord Show and Libby. There are a number of ideas floating around and information being gathered so the shows would not be held so close together. These will be presented at the fall PNFPG meeting on November 3rd at the Best Western in Moses Lake. If you want a say in what happens - come to the meeting. I'm tired of all of the accusations, bickering and nasty remarks. We are all Fjord lovers and I would hope we could all act more like adults. Join in the efforts for a solution so we can have 3 times a year to get together and enjoy our Fjords and friends (right now I'm using that term loosely). Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oe Wilson Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:49 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Libby ad nauseum This message is from: oe Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya Hoo Lois ! I love Libby. It was the first place that OE and I were exposed to a multitude of Fjords. It is a special place and a beautiful place to show horses. The facilities have been updated and the sceanery(sp) is beyond description. Besides the fishing is spectacular (right Jeff and Dick). As long as there is a show there, we will go because if feels like going home when we come out of the canyon and head into town. I'm sure Moses Lake was great, but it will never replace Libby for me. Pat Wilson UFF Da Fjords The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=NzYwNTU6MzkxMjY5ODU1Om Zqb3Jkc0Bud2dhbWViaXJkcy5jb20%3D The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby ad nauseum
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very well said Lois. Promoting Fjords and friendships is much more fun. Have a great day. I have to get back to my wonderful furry friends! Bonnie Morris The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby MT
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] By chance, did anyone see the documentary about Libby on Spokane PBS last night? A timely wake-up call for sure. I just wish I had seen it years ago. Ursula Are you referring to the Lumby Deposit near you-- in saying you wish you'd seen it years ago? I'm very sorry for you folks also -with mica (vermiculite) in your back yard. You're so right that awareness is crucial, thank goodness we have that now. I saw the documentary you refer to quite some time back, it is mostly of a historical nature, because there has since been enormous clean up of every trace. Last year when we had this conversation, regards the Libby Fjord Horse Show, I contacted the Mayor of Libby and one of the County Commissioners; they emphatically assured me there is no risk whatsoever in the occasional guest (nor even for residents) because of the fastidious clean-up. Any vermiculite that made it into Libby, in the past, was unwittingly transported there before anyone knew the hazard, it is not just an element lying about any-old-where. It was removed from a pit mine about 7 miles from Libby and brought in by individuals for insulation. Every building in Libby has been combed for any trace and removed by the EPA. I suppose there would be no more risk in coming to Libby than going to your farm near Lumby for a driving vacation, assuming that mica has not been unknowingly broadcast. In doing research on vermiculite I came across the Lumby Deposit and would be glad to share references with you. Ruthie, nw mt US The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby MT
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I spent a year and a half working in a vet office in Vancouver BC back in 1969. We used 10 x 13 baking pans (lasagna size) as litter boxes, with about an eighth to a quarter cup of vermiculite in each to entice the caged kitties to use the pans as litter boxes. I handled a lot of that stuff. Gail Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby ad nauseum
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaving aside feelings about the two shows and lobbying for each, is it a practical problem to have a show in June, during the height of foaling and breeding season? Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby MT
This message is from: greta cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those in W WA, KCTS channel 9 Public Television is airing the program P.O.V. Libby, Montana on Monday, October 22 at 10 PM. http://www.pbs.org/pov/ For some reason P.O.V. did not air this week. From: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordlist fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Libby MT Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:50:05 -0700 This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] By chance, did anyone see the documentary about Libby on Spokane PBS last night? A timely wake-up call for sure. I just wish I had seen it years ago. For those of you wishing to become informed about the asbestos issue, go to the KSPS PBS website for availability or the next viewing. uj Ursula and Brian Jensen Box 1032 Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.trinityfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw _ A new home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here. http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby Raffle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Well, it's almost back to school time and end of summer horse shows. I have been contacted by a number of you regarding donating items from you or your farms for the Libby raffle. We have always had a nice turnout for folks attending and participating in the raffle. It is a unique and fun way to have something announced about your farm and program as they raffle each item. Naturally horse, and fjord in particular, items are popular but our raffle also includes other nice items that folks enjoy. If you would like to donate an item or items please contact Linda Stevenson at 1-(208)-623-6156 or E-Mail her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) . She will give you all the info you need. You may bring your item to the show or send it on ahead. I thank you in advance for your support and contributions to the Libby Raffle. Please contact Linda if you can help man the raffle booth at the show. It's a fun opportunity to visit with lots of nice folks and keep your eye on your favorite items:) Have a safe trip to the show. Kathleen Rollins ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is the Libby or Moses Lake? Not, Libby and Moses Lake? At 81 I have been to too many clubs, meetings and organizations where new comers or unhappy people try to take down the whole process! It always surprises me how quickly others join who really do not care where it is but enjoy the battle. At any rate, leave Libby alone and let the unhappy ones do the hard work of putting together a different show, time and place. Quite a job but I imagine Libby was also quite a job. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: More Contamination News re: Libby MT.
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby DVDs
This message is from: Kimberly Kinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good morning Brian and Ursula!!! Is it possible to request one of those sets now? Regards, Kimberly Kinney - Original Message From: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordlist fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 4:40:20 PM Subject: Libby DVDs This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings from Brian Jensen. I have about five persons requesting the Libby Show/2006 DVDs who have not sent in their 25.00 for their three DVDs. Contact us privately if you asked but did not receive the mailing. Last call before closing this offer. Brian J Ursula and Brian Jensen Box 1032 Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.trinityfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby DVDs
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Brian and Ursula, I was not going to purchase these, but just learned that Alex Wind, who had a rare kind of melanoma in her eye, is still alive, and could probably use some cheering up. Maybe I will get them, then look at them and send them on to her. Should I just send cash? I know my bank will nail me if I send a check and it gets converted to US funds. Gail -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ursula Brian Jensen Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:40 PM To: fjordlist Subject: Libby DVDs This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings from Brian Jensen. I have about five persons requesting the Libby Show/2006 DVDs who have not sent in their 25.00 for their three DVDs. Contact us privately if you asked but did not receive the mailing. Last call before closing this offer. Brian J Ursula and Brian Jensen Box 1032 Lumby, B.C. Canada V0E 2G0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.trinityfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Libby DVDs - oops
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could have sworn I put Brian's address in instead of the list! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: More Contamination News re: Libby MT.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark,
I thought that was what America is all about: Lobby for your cause
If I want to lobby to move the show to some other location, how would you
recommend I go about it, or is that just not allowed in your part of America?
As far as someone putting down their own money to hold a time spot for a show,
I thought was pretty well explained as to why that was done, if the whole post
was read.
It seemed to make good sense to me to actually have a place to have the show if
you were going to make a motion to move the show and that motion passed. It
would be ignorant to me to go through all the motions of moving the show and
then finding out that there were no dates available to have the show where you
just moved it.
Unlike you and others that are so harsh in your comments when it concerns
someone else's opinion, I am trying to be open minded to what is being asked of
us to consider.
To do that I need information. Information like what was posted by Mr Rosen.
Does that mean that I'll be basing my whole opinion on that information, No,
but every little bit helps.
Why don't you instead of being so inflammatory, give me some information to
back your opinion of why we should keep the show in Libby. Just because,
doesn't cut it for me.
These kinds of posts are not winning any support from my wife or I to keep the
show in Libby.
Consider us new blood, not afraid of new ideas but not lost to the ideas of
tradition either.
David VanHoof
-- Original message --
From: Skeels, Mark A (GE Healthcare) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\)
People still live there and quite well and healthy. I don't think 1
week a year is going to kill anybody or their horses. Also someone
argued that the weather in Libby is terrible, sounds like the recent
show in Winonna was very similar climate to what has been in Libby in
the past. Maybe that show should be also moved to Washington, then you
wouldn't have to drive very far to that either.
I think this sort of email to argue a point is pretty lame. There have
been environmental disasters many places in the nation. The situation
in Libby pertains mostly to the people that worked in a certain business
at a certain site and the cleanup of that site. I bet nobody from the
Fjord show visited that site and got contaminated when they went to
Libby. If the EPA thought it was such a risk they would have evacuated
the people that live there 365 days a year, long ago, way before some
little group that visits for 5 days out of the year. It really makes me
wonder why people are lobbying so hard all of a sudden to move the show,
other than your pocket book and you not having to drive 7 hours. It's
all about me, me, me mentality. If you want to move the Libby show, why
don't you just have a spring show in Washington and quit trying to lobby
your position. I'm sure a spring show in Washington would do just as
good for promoting the Fjord breed as a Fall show would, and then it
would be all about the Fjord, Fjord, Fjord. Your post seems like it has
a little political slant. I'm sure we could dig up a little dirt on any
community that we would want to move the show to. People putting in
their own money to reserve a new location before it is even voted on to
move it. Why even vote, sounds like the decision is already made.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rosen
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: More Contamination News re: Libby MT.
This message is from: Robert Rosen
I recently offered my 2 cents re: Pacific Northwest Fjord
promotional
Group's(PNFPG) discussion of finally moving the Libby Show to a
non-contaminated facility in Washington State. My support for this idea
drew some heated responses from some die-hard Libby advocates.
Actually; DIEHARD is what my concerns are all about.
Just a few days ago (10/11/06) a Los Angeles Times article appeared
in the Spokane paper about a Supreme Court refusal to hear a Libby case
having to do with who will have to pay for an ongoing cleanup that
currently has a
$54.5 million price tag. Among other things the U.S. Attorney for
Montana described what was unleashed there as a human and environmental
tragedy...Further: Federal Courts have,... sided, with an EPA
contention that the public health crisis required ongoing action. The
situation confronting the EPA in Libby is truly extraordinary, said
the 9th circuit Court. ...About 12,000 residents of Libby and nearby
communities ( FACE ONGOING,PERVASIVE EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS PARTICLES
BEING RELEASED){caps added}.
There was a lot more in the article - my point being: WHY WOULD ANY
ORGANIZATION WISH TO INVITE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE U.S
RE: More Contamination News re: Libby MT.
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess I got a little off the hoof, so to speak by your labeling people, or name calling, whatever you will, as DIEHARDS. I don't appreciate the name calling bit so got a little hot in my reply,... sorry. The article you sent out was not researched by yourself as to what really is going on in Libby and the hazard that is involved for, visitors, which is probably not any higher than the radon or mold or gang violence in some other motel or city. To just throw out negative articles to lobby your point without research is very political in my opinion. How you lobby is to get ALL the facts, not just ones that are swayed to your opinion. On my own involvement with the NW Fjord Horse Show, I personally haven't been involved with it, except as a spectator, I hope to be in the future. If it moves to Washington, I would probably not go and instead go to Blue Earth, as Libby is about a 5.5 hour drive right now, and Washington would maybe be 9 hours, so I would probably add just a few hours and go to Blue Earth anyhow. Montana is a big state, it could be just as far to drive to Libby for someone from Wyoming, Montana or Idaho, as it would be for you to drive to Libby from Washington or Oregon. Putting it in Washington would further the distance for some, make it closer for others. I personally don't know why it was ever put in Libby to begin with, but like Blue Earth, it just probably just sort of happened. Has anyone contacted any city officials or Mayor of Libby to talk about the show and it's future? From some of the posts, it sounds like the community of Libby welcomed us Fjordies with open arms, sponsoring lunches and other things, but we as a group, for the most part, didn't recipricate the appreciation. Sure they don't have a big indoor arena, nor probably the budget to build one just for us. But the years I have been there the weather has been good to very nice, having a couple rainy cold years can happen anywhere. In and of itself, 1 or 2 rainy years is no reason to dictate change all of a sudden. I have only been on this post for maybe 2 years, but it seems like this is fairly sudden and a bit of a hasty decision to me. I would like to hear from some of those pushing for change, why don't you respond positively to having a spring show, and leave Libby alone? I haven't heard anything but lets drop Libby, period, from some of those who are lobbying for the change, without any alternative, 2 shows would only help promote the breed farther, I learned of the breed while visiting Libby, as I'm sure others have, and I purchased one because of it, have had 12 Fjords, now have 10, all because of the Libby experience. If there are people with the time, desire and energy to do a Washington show, my blessing would be with them and I would hope for a positive outcome, as it can only benefit the Fjord breed. You will also have people in Washington that would get to that show that would never go to Libby, and like myself, get the Fjord bug. If you want 2 shows promoted by the NW group, bring in evaluators, judges, etc, then split the funds if that's what is necessary. Or raise the yearly fee's for membership or hold a fund raiser to fund it. There are many options for a willing group. I think some enjoyed Libby this year, even if the weather was a little difficult. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:32 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: More Contamination News re: Libby MT. This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark, I thought that was what America is all about: Lobby for your cause If I want to lobby to move the show to some other location, how would you recommend I go about it, or is that just not allowed in your part of America? As far as someone putting down their own money to hold a time spot for a show, I thought was pretty well explained as to why that was done, if the whole post was read. It seemed to make good sense to me to actually have a place to have the show if you were going to make a motion to move the show and that motion passed. It would be ignorant to me to go through all the motions of moving the show and then finding out that there were no dates available to have the show where you just moved it. Unlike you and others that are so harsh in your comments when it concerns someone else's opinion, I am trying to be open minded to what is being asked of us to consider. To do that I need information. Information like what was posted by Mr Rosen. Does that mean that I'll be basing my whole opinion on that information, No, but every little bit helps. Why don't you instead of being so inflammatory, give me some information to back your opinion of why we should keep the show in Libby. Just because, doesn't cut it for me. These kinds of posts are not winning any support from
More Contamination News re: Libby MT.
This message is from: Robert Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently offered my 2 cents re: Pacific Northwest Fjord promotional
Group's(PNFPG) discussion of finally moving the Libby Show to a
non-contaminated facility in Washington State. My support for this idea drew
some heated responses from some die-hard Libby advocates. Actually;
DIEHARD is what my concerns are all about.
Just a few days ago (10/11/06) a Los Angeles Times article appeared in
the Spokane paper about a Supreme Court refusal to hear a Libby case having
to do with who will have to pay for an ongoing cleanup that currently has a
$54.5 million price tag. Among other things the U.S. Attorney for Montana
described what was unleashed there as a human and environmental
tragedy...Further: Federal Courts have,... sided, with an EPA contention
that the public health crisis required ongoing action. The situation
confronting the EPA in Libby is truly extraordinary, said the 9th circuit
Court. ...About 12,000 residents of Libby and nearby communities ( FACE
ONGOING,PERVASIVE EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS PARTICLES BEING RELEASED){caps
added}.
There was a lot more in the article - my point being: WHY WOULD ANY
ORGANIZATION WISH TO INVITE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE U.S. AND CANADA (and
other countries) TO A PLACE AS HAZARDOUS AS LIBBY HAS BEEN CERTIFIED FOR
SEVERAL YEARS?? It appears that many person's health has seriously
been affected by the conditions there.
--
Robert Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The FjordHorse List archives can be found at:
http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: More Contamination News re: Libby MT.
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People still live there and quite well and healthy. I don't think 1
week a year is going to kill anybody or their horses. Also someone
argued that the weather in Libby is terrible, sounds like the recent
show in Winonna was very similar climate to what has been in Libby in
the past. Maybe that show should be also moved to Washington, then you
wouldn't have to drive very far to that either.
I think this sort of email to argue a point is pretty lame. There have
been environmental disasters many places in the nation. The situation
in Libby pertains mostly to the people that worked in a certain business
at a certain site and the cleanup of that site. I bet nobody from the
Fjord show visited that site and got contaminated when they went to
Libby. If the EPA thought it was such a risk they would have evacuated
the people that live there 365 days a year, long ago, way before some
little group that visits for 5 days out of the year. It really makes me
wonder why people are lobbying so hard all of a sudden to move the show,
other than your pocket book and you not having to drive 7 hours. It's
all about me, me, me mentality. If you want to move the Libby show, why
don't you just have a spring show in Washington and quit trying to lobby
your position. I'm sure a spring show in Washington would do just as
good for promoting the Fjord breed as a Fall show would, and then it
would be all about the Fjord, Fjord, Fjord. Your post seems like it has
a little political slant. I'm sure we could dig up a little dirt on any
community that we would want to move the show to. People putting in
their own money to reserve a new location before it is even voted on to
move it. Why even vote, sounds like the decision is already made.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rosen
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: More Contamination News re: Libby MT.
This message is from: Robert Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recently offered my 2 cents re: Pacific Northwest Fjord
promotional
Group's(PNFPG) discussion of finally moving the Libby Show to a
non-contaminated facility in Washington State. My support for this idea
drew some heated responses from some die-hard Libby advocates.
Actually; DIEHARD is what my concerns are all about.
Just a few days ago (10/11/06) a Los Angeles Times article appeared
in the Spokane paper about a Supreme Court refusal to hear a Libby case
having to do with who will have to pay for an ongoing cleanup that
currently has a
$54.5 million price tag. Among other things the U.S. Attorney for
Montana described what was unleashed there as a human and environmental
tragedy...Further: Federal Courts have,... sided, with an EPA
contention that the public health crisis required ongoing action. The
situation confronting the EPA in Libby is truly extraordinary, said
the 9th circuit Court. ...About 12,000 residents of Libby and nearby
communities ( FACE ONGOING,PERVASIVE EXPOSURE TO ASBESTOS PARTICLES
BEING RELEASED){caps added}.
There was a lot more in the article - my point being: WHY WOULD ANY
ORGANIZATION WISH TO INVITE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE U.S. AND CANADA (and
other countries) TO A PLACE AS HAZARDOUS AS LIBBY HAS BEEN CERTIFIED FOR
SEVERAL YEARS?? It appears that many person's health has seriously
been affected by the conditions there.
--
Robert Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The FjordHorse List archives can be found at:
http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
The FjordHorse List archives can be found at:
http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ron Sherrie, As you may know Connie I joined the PNFPG 2 years ago at the fall meeting in Moses Lake but have not been able to attend any other meetings since. This last show at Libby was the first one we've gone to so we have no history with the group or with Libby. Connie I are looking for information that will help us vote intelligently at the upcoming meeting. Is there any information or history that you'd be willing to share with us to help us understand some of the passion that we've witnessed in the last month? As I said in a previous post, if I had to vote right now I'd vote to move to Moses Lake: my reasons are closer to home (3 hour drive as opposed to 9 hours) facilities for my horses out of the weather, more room to grow the show, better camping facilities for people. I haven't heard any solid reasons why to keep the show in Libby other than because it's always been there. Believe me, I have an open mind and am trying to look at all the facts, I just don't have any to support Libby. Can you help? Also, as a long time member (you not us) what do you think about having a show in Moses Lake, say 4th of July weekend (or middle of July) then also having the show in Libby. It sounds like a lot of folks who breed have babies being born are not to kean about a spring show, so what is your opinion? Anyways...we're just looking for answers to what seems to be a pretty volotile question. Thanks for your time, Your friends with Fjords, David Connie VanHoof -- Original message -- From: Ron Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Ron Sherrie Dayton Be advised that the latest mailing to the PNFPG membership from the Riddles regarding the Libby/Moses lake question is FULL of LIES and MIS-INFORMATION.The truth will come out at the fall meeting in November and you will be given the REAL FACTS. Also, regardless of the outcome on the Libby Moses Lake Question, There will be a show at Libby in 07. Same time as always. You can take that to the bank I find it kind of ironic that Sherrie I have just finished the book on Fjords, Farms, and Friends to help bring the Fjord community closer together and now we have a member trying to tear us apart. To all the GOOD folks in the PNFPG, Happy Trails Ron Dayton Sunwood Fjords and Carriage Co. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby show site. Do both
This message is from: Lauren Sellars [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my opinion Libby is an absolutely great show. Leave the Libby show where it is. The Nordic fest is not going to follow us to Moses lake. Great people have put years years of blood sweat and tears into making the Libby show what it is today. All great events have room to improve. Personally I may not make it to the show every year (weekends are our bread butter or hay oats) I am there in spirit and one day more in flesh. I am always happy to read about Libby and see the photos and dream of going again. We are outgrowing the Libby show grounds ability to contain all the buggies in one areana or practice area. Moses Lake does have more room I strongly encourage the Moses Lake Idea of a Spring show /or clinic combination. There is defineatly enough interest to do both. If more energy was put into promoting more events, then riping apart the one great show we have.We'd be doing a better job of promoting fjords. Our mandate is to promote the fjord horse. Let's keep that focus in mind. Let us be thankful for all our wonderful volunteers. I personally want my cake and eat it to. Libby Moses lake. Lauren Sellars Snowy mtn fjords www.fjordhorse.net The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby show site ..Response to Warren
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings to all PNFPG members from Warren and Sylvia Riddle, Teddy Bear Fjords. The following motion will be presented for a vote at the November 4 PNFPG meeting in Yakima WA: That the September 2007 International Fjord Show, sponsored by PNFPG, shall be held at the Grant County Fairgrounds in Moses Lake, Washington. As members, not officers of PNFPG, we, Warren and Sylvia Riddle, will bring this proposed motion before the members for discussion and vote. PNFPG meets only twice yearly to conduct business. At these business meetings absentee votes are not permissible under PNFPG By-laws. Warren THAT sounds irregular? most bylaws make provision for a total membership vote on any kind of significant departation from the state of bylaw origin. Certainly the state level guideline for incorporating would include this provision, because many states frown on conflicted corporation takeovers, and might not this appear to be? (with only a minimal vote) In any case, provision or no, it only seems fair and upright in a proposal of this magnitude, to include the entire membership in the decision. Not doing so could lend the appearance of rank piracy, and ruffle many feathers. The rise and fall of successful shows have a delicate balance that can be easily tipped, we just attended the annual Sandpoint ID Draft horse show and were dismayed to find it only a quarter the size of a few years ago! Not sure why, someone suggested increasing ingrown management (no outreach). It seemed like many regular show horse participants were there, but not near the exhibitors nor the spectactors. When it comes to making sudden MAJOR changes in a show, we should perhaps proceed with discretionary caution and some careful planning. I suggest research into other horse shows that have made bold moves, and additionally garnering the majority support of the ENTIRE membership. Ruthie, nw mt US The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, as much as I would have loved to see this Libby show, I don't think I cold have taken the heat, being an Alaskan: When it gets up to 80 degrees I suffer! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska Where it was nice and warm today at 68 degrees. Yes like everyone that attended the evaluation and show we enjoyed the whole experience again. I can tell that we live in a bit cooler climate when others are posting that 95F was not too warm. My Canadian Fjord was quick to point out that shade was his preferred spot. Gordon Fulton Alberta
Re: Libby - from my perspective...WOW!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a LONG way from Davisburg MI but I still dream of coming to the Libby show someday. It sounds so great! Kay Van Natta and Braveheart, the wonder pony and Bogie, the love pony
Re: Libby - from my perspective
This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gayle, thanks so for the news of Libby. I have always held Dusty as my favorite stallion and believe it or not Wez was my most ideal horse. I had the opportunity to watch Ann bring him up through the ranks while he was at stables where my Charley was in training in Olympia WA. These horses really let us live alot through them and their spirit. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
Re: Libby - from my perspective
This message is from: Sarah Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd love to see that! Can you post it somewhere? -Sarah For our grand finale Wez did a levade while Dusty did a bow. The photographer got a spectacular shot of us that just gave me chills. A moment frozen in time that I will cherish forever. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR www.fjordhorse.com - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
RE: Libby - from my perspective
This message is from: gillgables _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for describing in such detail the highlights from Libby. My husband and I have tried in vain to get to Libby for the past couple years so hearing about it is greatly appreciated. Maybe next year in person! PLEASE post as many pictures as possible...us wanna-bes never get enough pics of the Fjords in action! And congratulations to all who won and all who participated! Susan Gill (dreamin' of Fjords in Oklahoma)
RE: Libby
This message is from: Frederick J Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Sherrie, Gonna beat you there. We will be there Monday evening. Hope our stalls are ready. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: Libby This message is from: Ron Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, For all of you that are heading out for Libby I've checked the weather forecast for the next week and it looks like we should have nice weather this year. Please all of you drive carefully and I'll see you all there. I'll be there on Tuesday morning. Sherrie Dayton 2006 Libby Show Chair
Re: Libby Evaluation
This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't sent our show application in yet because I am waiting to get Woody to sign for his part of the show. Will send asap. Cheers, Peg - Original Message - From: Ron Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fjord List fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Libby Evaluation This message is from: Ron Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Just a reminder that if you're planning on attending the Libby Evaluation the deadline was the 15th but I know that Mike is still accepting Preliminary entry forms. If you need forms they can be downloaded at www.pngpg.org or you can e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll be glad to e-mail them to you. Thanks, Sherrie Dayton Sunwood Fjords
Re: Libby and other things
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a link to the PNFPG web site where the forms can be downloaded for the Libby Evaluation and Show. http://www.pnfpg.org/ Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA This message is from: Ron Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I just wanted to let you all know that all the forms and patterns are now available for downloading for the Libby show. Also if for some reason you didn't get the Evaluation Preliminary packet that was mailed back in June it is also there for downloading. And finally, our book, Fjords, Friends and Farms is in the hands of the publisher. Thanks to all of you that sent us photo's and write up's for the book. The plan is that we'll have them ready for the Libby show and I'll be bringing some to the National show in Winona. Hope to see a bunch of you at Libby, Sherrie Dayton Sunwood Fjords
Re: Libby Raffle..still time:)
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello there all on the list, We have lots of neat items coming in for the raffle this year. There is still time to donate and/or bring your items to the show to help support it. We appreciate all items, horsey or not and will make sure to ad your farm cards or info to the item as the donor. Tickets will be available Friday and the items will be raffled off Sat and Sun. If you are not attending but have a friend going..give them some money for tickets in your name as you must be there to win! This is because of shipping costs..:) See you there..ask for Kathy Rollins to drop off your items to at the show. Many thanks, Kathleen Rollins
RE: Libby/Blue Earth/Safety
This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] a little aside, and Fjord related, I have been told that the Blue Earth and Libby shows are getting so big that the driving classes are becoming hazardous due to lack of facilities/space to allow for safe classes, and safe hitching and warm-up areas. Just a caution..the Fjord shows could be headed for a disastrous accident that could maim or kill some of US (exhibitors and/or spectators)...all because the business grew a bit too fast and caution was not exercised in time. I don't know about Blue Earth but I do know about Libby. We split the classes in two this past year and that made them no larger than a regular driving class would normally be. The Libby grounds have been greatly improved over the past 18 months and the facilities are becoming more outstanding as time goes on. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA
Re: Libby
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great report, Beth! Who has purchased Flotren? Jean in cold and cloudy Fairbanks, Alaska, summer went up in smoke and now we're looking winter in the face! :( Well, we haven't quite recovered yet, having just returned home yesterday evening (it's a two day haul for us eacy way) however I'll give it a try. The evaluation was well attended with at least 36 horses entered in both the conformation and the performance tests. I believe there were over 80 horses at the show (at least there were over 80 horses stalled!) Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, I too am finally getting back to normal after the Libby show. We arrived in Libby last Tuesday and did not leave until Monday, so needless to say I was very tired and ready to come home. But I had a wonderful time and it was great to see so many competitors in so many classes. Some classes were so large they had to be divided in two ( Ladies Cart for instance). Sherrie Dayton, Shirley Anderson and everyone on the PNFPG show committee..Thank you for another job well done. The big thrill for me was getting a blue ribbon in ground driving with my yearling stallion, Andor. This was my first performance class ever ( I never thought I could do it ). And to think that just 2 months ago neither Andor or myself knew anything about driving. In fact, I think he taught me and I believe knowing how to drive is somehow part of the Fjords' internal mechanism somehow! He is something else. I also really enjoyed seeing Flotren in the flesh and under saddle...whew !! what a horse that is !! Good luck to him and his new owner in Montana. I also was impressed with my good friend Beth Bettis and her son Justin and their great little mare, Echo Valley Aud. This was Beth and Justin's first horse show and they did it all : ground driving, novice cart, log skid, western pleasure, pie eating contest, costume..( they really needed two horses, not just one !! :) ) Is there anything they can't do ? Wow, it was just great !! Gayle Ware did demonstration with her stallion, Dusty. I have never seen a Fjord with such an extended, floating trot as this horse has. Thank you Gayle for sharing that with us. My good friend Jim McMillan, also in his first competition, got first in the Farm Hitch class with his team of 4 year old mares, Leena and Nina in a wagon he made himself. Good job Jim !! I am glad to be home , but I am already planning for next year to enjoy it all over again. Judy Phelps Echo Valley Fjords Chelan, Wa.
Re: Libby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, we are finally home and somewhat recuperated from Libby. We had a great time and all our hard work in teaching the girls (Tone' and Netta) to drive paid off and we got lots of compliments on how nice they and I are coming along. Also a few shocking ribbons that we didn't expect to get. Tone' took third in the fast Keyhole race with the infamous Dusty stallion taking second. Don't know the name of the horse taking first but I'm pretty sure he only stopped because of the judges standing around the outside of the Keyhole circle. Boy did he put the breaks on. Good thing you didn't get run over Peg! Saw lots of old friends and met some new ones. Stayed up swapping funny horse stories one night with the Knutsens, Watanabi's (spelling) and the Cook's. What a riot we all can be at the end of a tiring day Saw a few prospective purchases, if only I had $$ LOL Over all the rain wasn't bad, It had a habit of quitting before or during the first class and did not rain during the show. As far as the parades, You have to go downhill over a concrete bridge to get into town and It was raining hard that morning. Also the staging area for the horses needs to be addressed for safety issues. I think the PFNPG is going to meet with the Nordicfest Parade committee this winter. HUGE turnout of competitors at Libby, and as always it was a lot of fun. I couldn't believe we got 4th in Gamblers Choice Team!! Michele Noonan Stevensville, MT
Re: Libby dates
This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peg Knutsen said: Monica, the NFHR Evaluation will be held on Weds and Thurs, and is also a very educational thing to watch. See you there, I hope, whatever day you come. I'm sure the evaluations would be very educational indeed. Do you think it would be more beneficial to come on Thursday, than on Friday? We want to see lots of Fjords, learn some stuff, meet some people ... but we don't have much time in which to do it. So we're hoping to maximize our Fjord exposure. As always, thanks for the info. Monica in Nelson, BC
Re: Libby
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monica, The website for the Pacific Northwest Fjord Promotional group is http://pnfpg.org/ Friday is the halter classes, starting at 10:00. The some other classes...Ground driving obstacle classes and trail classes Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska A Oooh, excellent! Thank you. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby
This message is from: Monica Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oooh, excellent! Thank you. - Original Message - From: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Libby This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] The show actually starts on Friday, so that would be your day to come! Jean in Failrbanks, Alaska A friend and I are hoping to travel to the Libby show for one day in September, to see so many Fjords all in one place. The problem is, it looks like I won't be able to go on the weekend. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] The show actually starts on Friday, so that would be your day to come! Jean in Failrbanks, Alaska A friend and I are hoping to travel to the Libby show for one day in September, to see so many Fjords all in one place. The problem is, it looks like I won't be able to go on the weekend. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Libby show packets
This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98 Sherrie, No show rules on http://www.pnfpg.org as of 18:00 PDT, or have I (also) had a senior moment and haven't looked in the right place?? Subject: Libby show packets Also I had a senior moment when I sent out the packets and forgot to include a set of the show rules, they will be posted on the web-site later today if you need to down load a set, or e-mail me and I'll send you a set, we will also have them available at Libby for all the exhibitors. See ya at Libby, Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby website
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Information on the Libby show can also be found at the Pacific Northwest Fjord Promotional Group website at www.pnfpg.org. Also, the deadline for sending in your registration forms for the Libby evaluation is July 1. Forms are also available for download on www.pnfpg.org. Judy Phelps Echo Valley Fjords Chelan, Wa.
Re: Libby Evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, The deadline for pre-registering for the Libby evaluation is July 2, not June 1 as I previously posted. Forms can be obtained from Sherrie Dayton. Thanks. Judy Phelps Chelan, Wa.
Re: Libby evaluation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, The deadline for pre-registering for the Libby evaluation is July 2, not June 1 as I previously posted. Forms can be obtained from Sherrie Dayton. Thanks. Judy Phelps Chelan, Wa.
RE: Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOPS! I got my horses bass ackwards. 13A is myself and Tova (From Margaret Strachan at Village Farms). 16A is Laurie Flemming showing our mare Troika. Sorry about that. The master page for the pictures at Libby is: Go to: http://www.mirrorkbranch.com/libbyfjord.htm l for the entire set of pictures. Go to: http://www.mirrorkbranch.com/libbyfjord-p9.html for the halter class 13A is Fred Pack (me) and my mare Troika. 16A is Laurie Flemming showing our filly Tova. Hope everybody else who were there can identify the other photographs for you.
Re: Libby show photos
This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Fred! Frederick J. Pack wrote: This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Hi Taffy, 13A is Fred Pack (me) and my mare Troika. 16A is Laurie Flemming showing our filly Tova. Hope everybody else who were there can identify the other photographs for you. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158
RE: Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Hi Taffy, 13A is Fred Pack (me) and my mare Troika. 16A is Laurie Flemming showing our filly Tova. Hope everybody else who were there can identify the other photographs for you. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158 Subject: Libby show photos / Calendars This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any way to find out who is who and the horses name in the Libby show photos? This was my first show so I haven't met everyone and their horses yet.
Re: Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I admit to the goof. A HREF=http://shopping.webmarket.com/exitpage/exitpage_hm.html;http://shopping.webmarket.com/exitpage/exitpage_hm.html/A Sorry for the Senior moment. This is the address. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: Libby show photos / Calendars
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't hear from Saskia, She had made this site over 2 -3 years ago. Its a good reference. I wish someone would make another site like it. Putting it in the Herald and linked to NFHR would be nice. Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: Libby pictures?
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 02:55 PM 10/1/2002 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, are any of the results for Libby published anywhere? I can't wait for the Herald. The Herald usually has results from the shows in it Fred. The Libby results may or may not be in the Fall issue though as the show was past the deadline for the Herald. The Herald is all printed and is being mailed as we type here. You should be seeing yours soon. Remember it is mailed Bulk Rate from Washington state so it takes awhile to get to the east coast. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby pictures?
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred.. sounds like you must have done well! (hence the expediency =))) we've been anxiously awaiting photos also but the gals have a backlog I guess-- the Sandpoint Draft show was the following weekend and they were there as well so it takes them time to sift through the many. you could just jump the gun and tell us how well you did ...? Ruthie This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] I dropped a note to Mirror KB Ranch photographers about the pictures that they took...wondering where and when the pictures will be available for viewing/purchase. Does anyone else have any information about the official pictures? Also, are any of the results for Libby published anywhere? I can't wait for the Herald. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158
RE: Libby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, maybe all you veterans of Libby can answer this dumb question of mine. Is the fee of $15 per stall a per night fee or just a flat fee. The paperwork isn't really clear on it; it has a place for X number of nights for camping but not for the stalls. I did Email Carol Ann, but I don't know if she'll get to her Email till Monday and I need to have this in the mail by then. Help!! Thanks. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby Show
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peg Kuntsen wrote: ... thanks for the kind words about the efforts involved in putting on a Show. Besides Gayle, who put some of her boundless energy into getting the show off the ground, your comments include the old, well, long-time, stalwarts.. I'm sure I will inadvertently leave some out, but the Johnsons, Webbers, Daytons, Bergies, Hoopes, Andersons Rollins's are some that come to mind... Peg I applaud your efforts in recognising the energies, human and other that go into the mix to create the Libby show, or ANY show! It is NOT a simple task by any means, especially as the Fjord exhibitor becomes more and more sophisticated in terms of the range of disciplines they can perform in. However, just wanted to add a few names to your list of above: Bev Bishop (nee Tarmina) and her sister Ailene Oakwright who basiclly originated Libby (correct me if I am wrong here!) and Larry Lynn Bo, who I know were extremely supportive of the show in the early years. Lastly, lets not forget Chip Lamb's contribution... Anyway, just a little addendum to an allready stellar list. Cheers, Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, Nv _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: Libby 2001 Tapes Libby 2002 Show
This message is from: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ursula and Brian, How much are the tapes of the Libby show? I hope to get down to watch next year, since Spruce Meadow and Libby are not in conflit for once. We are getting some snow. I hope to start working horses after Christmas. Have a wonderful Christmas. Alison Bakken Sundre, Alberta
Re: Libby
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:59 AM 12/9/2001 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Evaluation At Libby? So when and where is the fjord evaluation this year? I was under the impression (assumed) that there was always an eval at Libby. Turlock? Where? I'm kind of in a quandry as my work impacts its time off availability very late in the year for the next calendar year. Now I may not be able to access the time off for whenever the eval is going to be. Drat. The dates or places for the 2002 Evaluations have not been set yet Pam. The committee is working on it now. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby 2002
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:16 PM 11/24/2001 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone know for sure the dates for Libby, Montana Fjord Evaluation for 2002? I have to bid for available vacation time. July already looks picked over. I hope it is some other month. Libby just had an Evaluation in September of this year. So far I have not heard of them having another again yet next year. If they do decide to have one I would imagine it would be sometime in that first week of September again though. Does anyone know about Turlock, CA for 2002? Again they just had one this year too. Or are you talking about the Horse Shows? Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby
This message is from: Pat Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the thank you. The fjord on the rock is our FHU Lena. It was a hard decision to let it go for the raffle, but we wanted to make some contribution to the show. We certainly had a good time and like others picked up a lot of information. I doubt we will ever show, but you never know. We are getting Marilyn Heed to paint us another rock. I have one on my desk at work with the likenesses of both our Fjords. I call it my pets rock. pat wilson ttfn Gordon Fulton wrote: This message is from: Gordon Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] This year was our 4th year at the Libby show and it was again a good show. We just do the spectator thing and see what we can learn. A bunch of my skills need to be a lot better before I jump in the ring, not to mention the bottomless gas tank on our truck. Does anyone have a direct e-mail address of any of the organizers as I have a couple of comments to make to them that may be of interest. We did make a profit on the raffle, going home with a neat horse shoe hanger,donated by Brian and Ursula Jensen of Trinity Fjords. We talked to Ursula for awhile on Sunday in the stands and thanked them then . We also won a gift certificate to Becks Montana Cafe from Ron and Sherrie Dayton of Sunwood Fjords,I thanked Ron on Sunday during one of the breaks in the show. On Sunday we bought more raffle tickets and won the best looking rock in Montana.Marilyn Heed of Mountain Top Studio in Idaho Falls,ID painted the head and shoulders of a Fjord on a rock.This was donated by OE Pat Wilson of Hyde Park, Utah. We never got to thank them at the show so this is your thankyou from us. The horse on the rock looks just like one of our fjords Skittle. Gordon Geri Edymore Fjords Bowden,Alberta
Re: Libby video footage
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/20/01 8:42:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that folks (myself included) have been caught up in the tragedy of this past week, but I also think it would be another tragedy if we let this opportunity slip away from us. SOOO, please don't put off getting those tapes to me any longer! Again, I will reimburse you for your costs. Oh dear. You are correct. I still have my video in my camcorder. I showed the raw footage to my trainer (who purchased my 3 yo, Skylark and now knows that Fjords Are Fun!). She was very VERY impressed. Anyway Gayle, I need to know my tape is a little bitty tape that needs to be redone onto a VHS size tape. Do you have a converter, and so I could send you the tape as is (meaning I could get it in the mail tomorrow). Or do I need to transfer it onto a VHS size myself and then send it to you? Pamela
Re: Libby - Show Evaluation
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ruth bushnell wrote: See how I worked that infomercial in Carol? You've taught me a lot =))) (seriously). Very well said, Ruthie. Your descriptions were awesome! ;-) Beth -- Beth Beymer Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Libby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I read such a lot about Libby etc. I wanted I could participate ...
Re: Libby - Show Evaluation
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I very much agree Carol, I would love to have a copy too if anyone made a film. Gene and I have enjoyed the one from last year so much! Sorry you couldn't make it this year. Our A2Z Thorson placed third in the young stallion class (a Gjest grandson) and that was quite good considering the competition (like Obelisk). One of the Snowy Mtn Grays was second; (sorry I can't recall his name Lauren.). Thorson was ridden in the parade as a header for our stagecoach and team; he's a beautiful animal. One of our yearling fillies by A2Z Thorson was first place in yearling halter out of a large class! I hasten to add that she is for sale, her dam is a daughter of Rokida's Nicklaus (a gray that was Grand Champion at Blue Earth a few years ago). This gal is rich in color with very dark markings. See how I worked that infomercial in Carol? You've taught me a lot =))) (seriously). We also have a 2-year old stallion for sale that is a grandson of Gayle Ware's Dustin and he is also a son of Rusten. This sweetheart will do anything for you and is a gentleman through and through. Now I'm not guaranteeing that he'll dance the fandango like Dustin does, but if he was studiously ridden as long as Gayle has ridden Dusty, he just might =))) We have lots of prime young stock for sale, including a gelded son of Trinity's Samstein (2nd place last year) and a yearling filly by A2Z Thorson (2nd place last year). We live in northwest Montana, if anyone is interested in buying a quality Fjord at a reasonable price, give us a call at 406-295-5050 or drop us a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll fill in the particulars. Ruthie http://www.libby.org/~bushnell From the conversation on the List, I gather there wasn't a video made. That's a shame, and I'd like to suggest that it would be a good place for the NFHR to spend some money. A video of such a happening would be a tremendous promotional tool. Just think about it . . . An edited video of the 2001 Libby Show plus Evaluation available at a price, of course, to all interested people, whether current Fjord owners or wannabees. I think that would have been a hot item. Well, there's always next year. I have no idea what a professional video would cost --- $5,000 maybe. Sell them for $35. Such a video would be a great service to the breed, and a moneymaker for the Registry. Was there any kind of amateur video made that might be available for sale? Regards, Carol Rivoire
Re: Libby - Show Evaluation
This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - I wanted so badly to go to Libby this year. It's always been my favorite show, and it's gets better each year, so with the Evaluation happening at the same time, I tried my darndest to get the time off, but alas, no such luck. I want to thank Beth, Catherine, and everybody else who reported so thoroughly on the show. It must have been a grand show, and I'm in awe of those who laboured to put it on. I can only imagine the work and complications needed to coordinate a three-day show with a full-fledged Evaluation. Congratulations to all of you. From the conversation on the List, I gather there wasn't a video made. That's a shame, and I'd like to suggest that it would be a good place for the NFHR to spend some money. A video of such a happening would be a tremendous promotional tool. Just think about it . . . An edited video of the 2001 Libby Show plus Evaluation available at a price, of course, to all interested people, whether current Fjord owners or wannabees. I think that would have been a hot item. Well, there's always next year. I have no idea what a professional video would cost --- $5,000 maybe. Sell them for $35. Such a video would be a great service to the breed, and a moneymaker for the Registry. Was there any kind of amateur video made that might be available for sale? Regards, Carol Rivoire Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www.beaverdamfarm.com
Re: Libby Show and Evaluation (long-more)
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Mike, for your additions and corrections. Glad to hear that you felt that the Evaluation went so smoothly! I had some great concerns about how it was going to end up prior to arriving (worry-wort that I can be.) But once we got going, and I saw just how committed and hard working the volunteers were, I quit worrying. Thanks to the score sheet runners. Thanks to Patty Petersen, Alan and Lois Merrill and Denise Hoopes. Sorry I missed you on the first post. Couldn't have done it without you all. As far as the Starfire team was concerned, we had a pit crew addition with Susan Cargill jumping in, grooming and generally helping anywhere she could to get horses ready for halter classes on Friday. Once those were over we finally got to play! First on the agenda was hitching the Four in Hand. The whole time we were so busy with the Evaluation stuff, Jeff and Lisa Pedersen were driving their Four around the show grounds while I, longingly, looked on! Finally, it was our turn. Our pit crew harnessed and hitched. Dave McWethy came by and gave us some pointers on harness and hitching. Thanks, Dave. Philllip Odden, Arne Presthus and Dave McWethy jumped on the carriage as we drove first to the arena (getting in the middle of Anne Appleby and Gayle Ware's freestyle construction!) Then out to the horse paths in the woods. Ah what fun! That's what it's all about, eh Dave, Jeff, Lisa and Brian? There is nothing like the sound of that team clopping down the road in unison. Speaking on Anne and Gayle, I want to echo (again) what Catherine Lasessen said about the quality of riding and driving we saw at Libby this year. In addition to Anne and Gayle, Joni Morrison, who rode for Anton Voorhoeve, was riding and schooling the Voorhoeve's young horses. This young woman has ridden under world class Dressage instructors in Germany, and it was obvious. Anne let her school Wez and it was something watching her get some very lofty and through tempi changes and passage. What a gas! I commented to Joni about the quality of the work she was getting from Wez, and she said that he was very nice! A tribute to Anne's skill in bringing him up through the levels of Dressage. It was just awesome seeing the high quality of riding and schooling there, all in Libby, Montana at a Fjord horse show. Hard to imagine, but there we were. So, with all of that going on and the Pedersen's, the Jensen's and our Four-in-Hands, there was a lot to see at Libby this year. Saturday's show opened with the three Four-in-Hands and a Pair bringing in the flags for the opening ceremonies. Quite an impressive sight. We continued on with a Four-in-Hand class, then on to the various riding, driving and fun classes that make the Libby show so popular. I kept hearing Jenny Callahan's name placing high in the ribbons. Congratulations, Jenny, quite an improvement from last year. Due to flagging energy on our parts, the Starfire team had to scratch quite a few classes (can you believe it, we even scratched the Log Skid, oh yea, and guys, the GIRLS won the Log Skid again..) I do want to say, however that we were very proud of Sue North's and our little white dun mare, MVF Sara. Sue (Sandy's mother) has been participating in the Libby show for a few years with very limitied riding and driving experience. She did an awesome job driving Sara in the Novice Driving and Ladies driving classes, taking first place and third place, respectively. Sue, who was thrilled last year when she finally placed in a driving class year, was as proud as can be of her little mare. Everyone wanted to take Sara home with them (sorry, you'll have to go through Sue first!) Congratulations to all who were there, whether you showed or not, whether you placed or not. We had another wonderful time, with good friends and awesome surroundings. Thanks, again, PNFPG, for another great time in Libby. We have some nice photos from the show and I'll try to get them up on our website during the next week. Beth -- Beth Beymer Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Libby Show and Evaluation (long)
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:42 PM 9/17/2001 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32 horses participated in the Conformation portion of the Evaluation. Three and Under Stallions (3); Three and Under Mares (2); Three and Over Geldings (3); Three and Older Stallions (11); Three and Older Mares (15.) I think we had one scratch in the conformation evaluation. Somewhere around 45 performance tests were completed the following day (actually, it was 54 if you count the utility sections of the tests separately) which started Thursday morning at 8:00 a.m.. If my numbers are incorrect, you'll have to forgive me. I participated in 12 Introductory tests with 6 horses, so my recollection of most of the day is a total blur. I really don't know how you did that Beth. Then to go on for 2 more days of the show with just about as an aggressive schedule too. What a woman! Please, if my numbers are incorrect, feel free to correct them (Mike?) I think we actually had a few less than what you listed. We had a few horses scratch some tests. But your numbers are fairly close. The Medallions were awarded by Mike May the following morning. He must have either stayed up late, or gotten up very early Friday morning to tabulate the scores for this. Am I right, Mike? Actually I had them all set ready to hand out after the last test was scored but we just plain ran out of time. As a horse finished all of its tests I calculated the medallion it was to receive so I wasn't left with several hours work afterwards this time. I would have handed them out right after the last test but most everyone was already on their way to dinner by then. Thanks, again, to everyone involved in the success of this Evaluation. The Libby 2001 Evaluation Committee: Ursula Jensen, Peg Knutsen and I, couldn't have accomplished this without the assistance of (almost) countless people. I'll try to name them all, but if I miss anyone, let me know, as I'd like to include my thanks to them in a Herald article. Thanks to Mike May, Dennis Johnson, Woody Hoopes, Photographers Kim and Kari of Mirror KB Ranch, the Parks and Rec. coordinator Carol Ann (can't remember her last name) Peltier , Brian Jensen, Anne Appleby, Bob North, Frank Ping and Doug Knutsen. Denise Hoopes was my most able bodied assistant too. Patty Peterson also helped out some the first day. Keith Brighton Alan Merrill both were helping me with the running of the score sheets too. I would also like to thank all that helped. Especially the ones that were forgotten above. I hope I didn't miss too many. It was a very smooth running Evaluation this time. They seem to run better every time we have one. I guess we are getting it figured out. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby Show and Evaluation (long)
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi listers, It's been difficult for me to sit down and write in the aftermath of 9-11-01. We were on our second leg of our two day trip home from Libby, had just loaded the horses and were preparing to be on our way when I caught a glimpse of the WTC on our host's television. The first tower was on fire, then the second plane struck. We listened to the events unfold in horror and disbelief as our little caravan drove home. Each new piece of news had us wondering what would come next, and just how bad it might become. Our feelings of helplessness and insignificance, I'm sure, were shared by many. We watched as one jet landed in Billings, MT., then saw no more planes in the sky. It was erie. As someone said on a news program last night, normal is not going to be the same anymore. Thank you to everyone who has shared their words of encouragement and news, both good and bad. It has been especially helpful, and deeply touching, for me to hear of the solidarity felt and displayed around the world. I cannot read, watch or think about the outpouring of untiy and love for fellow human beings without becoming emotional and teary eyed. A deep, heartfelt, thanks for your thoughts, prayers and all you are doing. Life, here, is slowly returning to normal. I, like others have written, take comfort in mundane tasks and the warm, kind, eyes of our horses. I would like to echo Catherine Lassessen's well said thanks to everyone who helped out with the Libby show, and with the driving accident in the pleasure driving class. In addition to the gentlemen who dragged the runaway horse to a stop, several people came into the arena to head the remaining horses while we waited for an ambulance. Thanks to everyone for your assistance and I was glad to know that the driver survived, miraculously, with only bumps and bruises. We participated in both the Evaluation and the PNFPG show. Congratulations, again, to the Libby Show Committee for putting on another wonderful show. Due to the hard work and dedication of wonderful Committee members and volunteers, the Evaluation came off without a hitch. A special thanks to Dennis Johnson and Woody Hoopes, who were there for us to provide just about anything we needed. 32 horses participated in the Conformation portion of the Evaluation. Three and Under Stallions (3); Three and Under Mares (2); Three and Over Geldings (3); Three and Older Stallions (11); Three and Older Mares (15.) Wayne Hipsley and Karen Cabic were the senior evaluators. We were also given the added pleasure of having Arne Presthus, from Norway, complete score sheets for our horses. Arne's scores were not included in the final tablulation of the overall score given for each horse, however it was nice to be able to receive a written document giving us a Norwegian viewpoint of the quality of our horses. In comparing our horses' scores between Wayne's, Karen's and Arne's score sheets, the points are not so far off. When there were differences, they were usually not more than one or a half point apart, which tells me that the qualities that evaluators are looking for in a good horse are similar, whether American or Norwegian. After each group of horses had been evaluated, they were brought back into the arena giving everyone (participants and audience) the opportunity to see the horses (within their respective sex and age group) together for comparison. Wayne, Karen and Arne provided commentary regarding each horse, making it an educational experience for participants and audience. Ribbons and score sheets were awarded at that time. Evaluator trainees also scoring alongside the senior evaluators were; Catherine Lasessen, Curtis Pierce and Phillip Odden. Somewhere around 45 performance tests were completed the following day (actually, it was 54 if you count the utility sections of the tests separately) which started Thursday morning at 8:00 a.m.. If my numbers are incorrect, you'll have to forgive me. I participated in 12 Introductory tests with 6 horses, so my recollection of most of the day is a total blur. I'll take this opportunity to thank our awesome pit crew (Gail and Jim Russel, Sandy North, Bob and Sue North, Kathie Hibbard, Frank and Michelle Ping) who kept the horses coming in their required tack. Special thanks to Jeff and Lisa Pedersen, who stepped in to help out with harnessing, hitching and getting to me the 5 horses I drove in the Intro Driving tests, with only one horse in between each test. Their efforts, along with our pit crew made sure that the evaluators were not kept waiting for tack changes. Please, if my numbers are incorrect, feel free to correct them (Mike?) The order of tests was as follows: Introductory Western (7 tests); Advanced Western (3 tests); Introductory English (14 tests); Advanced English (5 tests); Utility Section of Advanced English/Western Riding (7 tests); Introductory Driving (9 tests);
Re: Libby Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Catherine- Glad to hear you are home safe had a good time. How did your horses place? Was Blaaman there? Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our /A A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Fjords/A / )__~ /L /L
Re: Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/5/01 10:38:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today was wonderful. It was slightly overcast high about 72 or so, really comfortable for a change. Tomorrow is supposed to be about the same then a little warmer for the show on Fri, Sat, Sun with sunshine. Highs in the Thanks to both of you for the weather report. We'll bring appropriate clothes.And my laptop computer! Pamela
Re: Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:55 AM 9/5/01 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good. Mike, what's the weather like? We're leaving Portland tomorrow at noon and I don't know what to pack! Today was wonderful. It was slightly overcast high about 72 or so, really comfortable for a change. Tomorrow is supposed to be about the same then a little warmer for the show on Fri, Sat, Sun with sunshine. Highs in the high 70's according to the news. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only $9.95 per month! Sign up in September to win one of 30 Hawaiian Vacations for 2! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinumrefcd=PT97
Re: Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:37 PM 9/5/01 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pamela I met Mike in Libby today.. maybe he's too busy to respond.. it's overcast here today (thank God for some relief from the heat) but quite warm anyhow. It does get cold at nights here though so bring a jacket =)) Ruthie (looks like a rousing turnout!) Na I am never that busy! ;-) Meeting a lot of the people form the list out here. That is one of the nice parts of coming to the different shows Evaluations around the country. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only $9.95 per month! Sign up in September to win one of 30 Hawaiian Vacations for 2! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinumrefcd=PT97
Re: Libby Weather was Re: awesome Sat. drive
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pamela I met Mike in Libby today.. maybe he's too busy to respond.. it's overcast here today (thank God for some relief from the heat) but quite warm anyhow. It does get cold at nights here though so bring a jacket =)) Ruthie (looks like a rousing turnout!) This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/4/01 10:35:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No it isn't. I am still here I am in Libby typing this actually! Hello from the Libby Evaluation! Mike Good. Mike, what's the weather like? We're leaving Portland tomorrow at noon and I don't know what to pack! Pamela
Re: Libby, Travel Time/Cell Phones
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 02:53 PM 8/31/2001 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also.we are travelling from Cedarville CAfar Northeast corner of CA, right on the Oregon/Nevada borders. MapQuest says it will take 20 hours, thru Sandpoint...GASP. I know MapQuest test drivers drive even slower than I dodoes anyone have a better idea how far off they are? My guess is there is about a 3 hour overestimate. (Assuming we are not hauling horses.) My MS Streets Trips says it is 15 hours 12 minutes. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby, Travel Time/Cell Phones
This message is from: Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know how well cell phones work in Libby. At the Venture Inn? At the show grounds? There are cell towers but service will come and go depending on where you are in relation to the mountains. Overall there is good service. Traveling: Figure 21/2-3 hours from Spokane. Or an hour/11/2 from Sandpoint. Just stay north on H95, go through Bonners Ferry, up the big hill and turn right at the 3 mile gas station. (Which is actually only two miles from town) Stay on that road and you'll end up in Libby. Its about 65 miles from Sandpoint to Libby and the roads are nice but not many passing lanes. Have fun! Teresa Sanders Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Libby or bust
This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sanders wrote: This message is from: Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh ladies, FYI, those guaranteed no bounce braziers, are a joke!! I have one of the no-bounce bras and it sure is better than a regular one, but does not work 100%. I hate when I am half way down the drive and forgot to put my special bra on. So back I go and change. I swear I need a check list posted in my barn to look at before I go out riding. LOL -- Built FJORD tough Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Re: Libby or bust
This message is from: Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh ladies, FYI, those guaranteed no bounce braziers, are a joke!! Double up and triple layer even. I works for me. rotfl (those who know us can see a most definite size difference here) Anyone who wants to see a cute picture of Sarah's STUD colt Casey can email me privately. Hint: it is not a PG rated photo Laughing all the way to Libby Teresa
Re: Libby ???
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lauren. I have tried 4 times to your site and get the same message. Host taking to long to respond. I have put in a complaint to systems response. Lets see what will happen . Good Luck to all and a safe, happy trip to all that are going to Libby. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: Libby ???
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren, Sherrie Dayton of Sunwood Farms could probably answer any question you might have regarding Libby. You could contact her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 208-623-3600. Just a few days ago I was wondering what's become of you... you've been quiet for some time.. I was very glad to hear that you're coming to Libby! It sounds as though we're going to have a great turnout! Looking forward to seeing everyone too! Ruthie, nw mt Hello everyone I am needing some help please. Does anyone know the phone # in Montana to get your livstock transportation number (or whatever it is called) Is there a discription for the trail class at Libby this year. Or will it be a surprise for us all? Does anyone know a source of good clean hay close to Libby? My computer server has been very bad for several weeks now. Can someone tell me if my website is accessable. www.fjordhorse.net Thank you for any help I am in the midst of a very busy summer not ready for Libby but getting excited. Looking forward to seeing everyone. Lauren Sellars
Re: Libby and this and that
This message is from: Teressa Kandianis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oops. Sorry, meant that last to be a private post. Teressa - Original Message - From: Teressa Kandianis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Libby and this and that This message is from: Teressa Kandianis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello B U: Yes, we'd be interested in the sweaters. Or, I would. I'll have to check with Mark. We drove Merit both Saturday and Sunday - still monkeying with the gear - but he's still doing great. I mowed avenues through our pasture so we can practice hills, turns and so on without going out on the road. Lovely weather here - sunny, warm - a little breeze so no bugs. And no volcanic action over on Mt. Baker. Lovely spot. Later, mark and teressa - Original Message - From: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordlist fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: Libby and this and that This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] The program/brochure for the NFHR Evaluation is in the making but if anyone still wants to advertise by sending in $10 and a business card to Peg Knutson or Mike May (whichever is quickest) please do so right away. To be fair and equitable we are only allowing business card ads. I'm sure there is also an opportunity to place an ad in the PNFPG show booklet in which case contact Sherrie Dayton for info...The PNFPG is also looking for raffle items . This would be a great opportunity for fjord artists to donate a piece of their work and have it displayed at the show. These raffle items are real important for the group as they support the all important fund raising aspect of the group so please support the PNFPG. We are gearing up for the big event by working our horses daily and in this heat it's certainly been a challenge. Shirley Anderson, I've lost your e-mail address...please contact me. I am also looking for a room in Libbyso if anyone has a reservation and will not be using it,please contact me right away. thanks. I have just been contacted by a Norwegian Knitting company who made the Norwegian sweaters that were so sought after in Norway this year. It has fjords knitted into the pattern (not the actual animal but a picture) and are very nice...I'm sure you will see them throughout the country at some of the horse events as about 12 of us managed to weasel them from district members in Norway this springThey asked me to see if there is a market in N.A...IS there? Let me know. These are not cheap (circa $200) but are a lifetime investment. UJ Ursula Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
Re: Libby Bee's
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ruth bushnell wrote: And speaking of looking back at past Libbys. we just watched the PNFPG video of last year's event and are hoping someone is going to do that again!.?? Pretty please! =))) I shared Sandy last year with the filming of the PNFPG show, and I sorely missed her. I'll need every wonderful ounce of her this year, with the evaluation and the 4-in-Hand class, so it'll have to be someone else who does the filming. Sorry for being greedy, but it's my turn this year! ;-) Beth -- Beth Beymer Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Libby Bee's
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gearing up for Libby should include bee sting kits. The doctor yesterday told us everyone should carry Benadryl at all times when they are outdoors during bee season. Add some to you first aid kits for trail rides. It saved Jennie's life and could save yours. Teresa Sanders Northern Idaho SORRY to hear of Jennie's close call Teresa! That's very good advice. I recall there have been a lot of bees in the food area in past years at Libby. Hopefully, they may have replaced the open garbage containers with closed ones..?? And speaking of looking back at past Libbys. we just watched the PNFPG video of last year's event and are hoping someone is going to do that again!.?? Pretty please! =))) Ruthie, nw mt
Re: Libby Bee's
This message is from: Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gearing up for Libby should include bee sting kits. The bee's in our area, (the term bee's = yellow jackets, bald faced hornets, wasps etc) were out early this year and some areas are already having problems with the shear volume of the bees. There could bee another invasion at Libby. Remember two years ago?? EVEN IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU ARE ALLERGIC YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED. We learned this lesson last week when Jennie was stung and had a severe reaction. IF you develop hives from a bee sting you need to take Benadryl even IF you don't think you are allergic, if swelling or hives start get to a doctor/hospital immediately. Jen had to have epinepherene/adrenalin and lived on Benadryl for three more days before she was out of the woods. Apparently, if you have hives from any allergic reaction your breathing is at risk. The doctor yesterday told us everyone should carry Benadryl at all times when they are outdoors during bee season. Add some to you first aid kits for trail rides. It saved Jennie's life and could save yours. Sorry for the doom and gloom but. Teresa Sanders Northern Idaho
Re: Libby and Trinity Fjord Happenings
This message is from: LarryMargaret Shorhen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Ursula I haven't had the opportunity to meet you and your husband yet but my husband and I raise Fjords near Calgary. I was wondering if you could help us in regards to the Libby show. We have been trying for years to make it down to watch but something always comes up. We are determine to go this year but we are having trouble finding out if there is any camp site still available. We don't need anything special as we just have a truck and camper. Could you let us know who tocontact or would anyone around that area let us park in their field. Any help would be greatly appreciated and hope to see you at the show. Thanks , Marg -Original Message- From: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordlist fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: August 12, 2001 3:26 PM Subject: Libby and Trinity Fjord Happenings This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Group from Brian Jensen; The Libby Show 2001 will have a great starter with the fours entering the arena at 1 P.M. on Sat. The midwest group has been running the four-up class for many years and Libby can finally follow suit. As the pictures have shown recently there looks to be at least three fours competing this year. Many thanks to Dennis Johnson and the show committee for including the class. Beth and Sandy of Starfire will be there as well as Jeff and Lisa Peterson.Trinity Fjords four will be there as well.I was hoping for Pat Malloy to start a four , but some bad luck with a helpers injury and a huge drought in their area has caused them to cancel their trip this year . We will certainly miss them. Our Driving Weekends have been completed successfully for the third year with about 20 successful entrants overall. If you are interested in 2002 talk to us at Libby about a weekend next year.We already have bookings and some spaces taken so let us know if you are interested. Hopefully there are now more enthused and safety aware drivers out there to use their Fjords in the wonderful sport of Driving. I may be looking for a groom for the four and unique hitch so if you are interested in the sport of driving and want to participate in the show let me know. I have one groom confirmed and another cancelled due to personal reasons. Most men do not want to dress in livery for the class so usually it is the ladies who give me a hand. See you at Libby for lots of Fjord fun and visiting Ursula Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
Re: Libby-2001- Driving Class
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/6/01 7:49:11 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Talking lately with Dennis Johnson, Show Comm. chairperson for this years Libby Show. A four-in-hand class has been added for the coming event. I immediately think of Pedersons, Beymer, Malloy, Boes, and ourselves as possibilities for this class. Are there any closet want to be s out there who wish to do a four Or folks who just need a little convincing to give it a try. While we are talking four-in-hand I will throw in a for sale item. Los Trigos Ranch has a four-in-hand Freeman harness for sale. It is Fjord size up to about 15.1 hands. The harness has been very lightly used and has nickel hardware. They are asking $7000. Or the harness can be split into two pairs with the wheeler pair (new) selling for $4000 and the leader pair (used about 2 dozen times) selling for $3000. All combinations come with the appropriate lines. Anyone who is interested please email me privately and I will put you in touch with Los Trigos. Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park NM (where 2 feet of snow is trying to melt in 2 days and we have mud up to our hocks, mine and the Fjords)
Re: Libby-2001- Driving Class
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I luckily got to view the Libby tape. It was good. We have not yet attended a Libby show, and it sure helped to see what goes on there. The parade looks like a blast.. I very much enjoyed to see the four up Brian drove and it was great. He truly looks like he enjoys the driving. I will view it over and over. It would be nice to have a tape with all the different ways Brian has hitched up. What way will be next, Brian? I 'll hope to get to Libby one of these days. Seeing them in person along with the four up class, which will no doubt have a large entry, will be a treat. Thanks go out to all that helped to make that tape. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: Libby 2000 videos
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ursula, would you tell me if these are well done videos or from a distance etc. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: Libby 2000 videos
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have fun and enjoy the whole show from your living room this winter. Ursula Jensen THANKS Ursula!! I just wrote Sarah and reserved one for us (it pays to get up early) Appreciatively, Ruthie
RE: Libby show.....with the BIG BOYS !
This message is from: Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa Pederson wrote: I recieved (Sic) the nicest card from Brian and Ursula Jensen today with a beautiful picture of Jeff entering the ring at Libby with the tandem hitchthe ONLY picture to come out BTW without that ^%$%* chain link fence in the way !Now THATS class ! We were glad to meet you guys too ! Thanks for the compliments, and picture, guys. Lisa I guess you haven't looked at the photo albums. Jeff is shown in: MVC-834s, shown in my Libby Series 3 album...captioned: mvc-834s. Jeff Pederson. Pederson Fjords. Cedar City, UT. Pederson Fjords. Was it the same picture? Fred Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, WA
Re: Re;Libby etc....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO: Cynthia, Jon and Mary, Lisa and Jeff Pederson LOL LOL LOL LOL Michele
Re: Re;Libby etc....
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, Enough! PLEASE let the rest of us in on the joke! What's the rest of the story? Jean in gloomy Fairbanks, Alaska where we're having a hay shortage and the 2nd cutting is getting wet as I type! (but I have all my hay!) TO: Cynthia, Jon and Mary, Lisa and Jeff Pederson LOL LOL LOL LOL Michele Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re;Libby etc....
This message is from: Jon Mary Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cynthia Madden wrote:A note to Lisa and Mary Ofjord - have you done any dumpster diving lately?? To that I have to NOTE: JUDGE not, lest ye be JUDGED S! MO
