...where the white comes from.
This message is from: Kay Van Natta I think Mary is right about the outcross on the Norwegian Duleheste (dale horse). They certainly would've been the handiest choice geographically. They're used on the larger, lowland farms in Norway but are too big and need too many calories to be practical on the tiny mountain farms. I sure haven't seen all of them but I don't think that have too many (or any) color rules. A traditional color (and my favorite) seemed to be black/very dark brown with amber trim...legs, face, flanks, tummy. I'm sure some of them are chromed but I don't think it's a major feature. There aren't a lot of them to look at in North America but I saw some and even got to ride one in Norway. They seemed like sturdy, sensible guys without, maybe, the pretty faces we get to look at in Fjordish circles. Well, that's it from the shallow end of the information pool. Kay at Yellow Pony Farm in MI Sent from my iPad Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Where is Allthingsfjordandmore these days?
This message is from: jadeb...@aol.com Does anybody know how to contact Linda at All Things Fjord and More? Maybe she retired but I'm hoping not. My beloved white BBcap with the blue trotting Fjord on it and several of my favorite T and sweatshirts are entering the terminal stages of their lives and I'd like to replace them but I haven't been able to get in touch. Does anybody have an address, an e-mail address or (my favorite) a telephone number? Kay Van Natta Yellow Pony Farm in MI where Braveheart believes that I shouldn't be riding/driving him on the public roads in ragged garments and Bogie who doesn't care since people clothes just exist for him to rub his face on anyway Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
where is everyone?
This message is from: laura fisher Hi- this is Laura. Where is everyone? _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Laura asks-where do they go?
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" Laura, if you have ever listened to the Kim Komando radio show Kim says that they sometimes go into the Galactic Bit Bucket...never to be seen again. It happens Fred BTW good show and LOTS of good computer information PLUS access to a LOT of FREE useful programs. http://www.komando.com . Been waiting for a royalty check Guess I'll have to wait longer . All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 Subject: Laura asks-where do they go? This message is from: laura fisher I have written a couple other monologues that I was quite proud of. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Laura asks-where do they go?
This message is from: laura fisher I have written a couple other monologues that I was quite proud of and I have noticed that they never saw the light of day- here on the forumdo we get butted out sometimes? Are there technical difficulties with the forum or do I just mess up and send them to who knows whom or where? Just want to know. _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC thats right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Introduction Where is MN?
This message is from: debora seely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Roberta, I was just curious where in southern MN are you located? How far from Mankato area? I use to have Fjord friends there that I would visit when I had to go to my in-laws twice a year. I would give them free dressage lessons in return for some horse contact away from home. Deb Roberta Stockwell Guided Hands Home & Barn Professional Animal Care HTA/AC/Reiki MN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Where is everybody?
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sarah, congratulations to you, the girls and the horses. What a neat story and you should enjoy that feeling of "well done." Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Where is everybody? Libby, of course!
This message is from: "Barbara Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Where is everybody? Some of us were at the Libby evaluation and 22nd Annual International Fjord Horse Show! We had a great time at both. Wayne Hipsley and Karen Maas were the evaluators. Wayne and Karen are great to work with and we all so enjoyed the education that they gave us during the evaluation. The highlight of the eval for me was when a 16 year old mare was awarded a Blue ribbon. She was a super mare. I'll let her owners fill everyone in if they care to. Then the show! We had the best weather I have ever seen! It was cold at night but really warm during the day. I even have a sunburn. It started out on Friday morning with a clinic by Wayne. What great knowledge he has of horse anatomy, form and function. He talked on horses in general and Fjords in particular. He talked on the types of Fjords and the range that we need to keep in them. For the show we had a good turnout with around 35+ horses. Fred and I took the gelding that we have been using the last few years and a 4 year old mare that we just started riding and driving this year. I entered the mare in mostly fun classes where she didn't have to deal with anything but me. I was so pleased with her and how calm she was. At the Moses Lake show she was pretty nervous and didn't want to stand still either riding or driving. At Libby I guess she decided that it was now normal to stand around watching "stuff" happen. Everyone said they had a great time. We even had one man that rode the train from North Dakota to watch the show say that he is going to try to bring a horse out next year. We got to know some of our neighbors from Canada better than we had before and will look forward to seeing them again next year also. Well, time to go feed the critters! Barb Lynch Benton City, WA (Where it was in the 90's today!) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Where is everybody?
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been busy taking horses to shows. Here is the text of a message i just posted on fjord issues - which has pictures. Sometimes it’s not about the scores or the ribbons. On the face of it I could report last Sunday’s dressage schooling show as a “failure.” I took 3 students and 2 of them were disqualified on one ride for leaving the ring before the test was over. Nobody won their class. But here is where the successes came: Student “A” is my adopted daughter. She has learning disabilities and ADHD. She has been running around on a little Welsh cross “handed down” from the older brothers who never allowed her to refer to it as “her pony.” Three weeks before the show I finally convinced her that she was just way to big for the little pony. She choose Nika, a 7 year old Fjord mare that I have been training for about a year as her next mount. We spent 2 weeks on the longe line getting her position firmed up, then I let her do some riding with the side reins on. I had entered Nika in USDF “intro A” class, and 3 days before the show she asked to ride in the show. So we drilled the test for 3 days and then off to the show. She handled it beautifully, getting all 5’s and 6’s. Well, except for the part where both horse and rider lost focus and wandered out the gap in the fence at A during their walk. But A turned back around and completed the test. I was proud of her composure and the grace with which she accepted the news that she was disqualified. Since I had Nika entered in 2 classes and I didn’t think my daughter had the nerves or stamina to ride 2 tests, I called up a second student who hadn’t ridden in 2 months because of depression and told her that I thought she could handle riding Intro B on Nika. To my amazement (since I have been doing anything I could think of to get her riding again) she agreed – even after I told her that she would be picked up at 5:45 am. She got on Nika, had 20 minutes to get in synch with her and rode a very nice test for a 57%. I think my confidence that she could do it meant more to her than all the compliments I could have given her on her riding improvement. The final student to ride was the reason that we originally decided to go to the show. She wanted to try training level, haven ridden the introductory tests at the first show we did in May. She was riding the nice 8 year old mare Valka that I have leased this year from Village Farm. This was Valka’s second show, the first time at training level. This student has been riding with me for 6 months. Her improvement in her riding skills is tremendous – plus she reports to me that she has lost 30 pounds and her resting heart rate has gone form 100 to 70. she scored a 59% in her first test. In her second test Valka – much to everybody’s’ surprise, just hopped over the rail as she took the canter lead. So her rider just hopped her right back in and went on with her test. Several spectators suggested that we had a 3-day event candidate. Again, even thought it was a disqualification, I was happy with her composure and quick thinking. The student was disappointed – she was hoping for a 60% - Yet 6 months ago she couldn’t trot 2 consecutive 20 meter circles. We all told her she was too hard on herself! So was the show a success or failure? Three students found out they were capable of more than they had thought. For one just getting out of bed in the morning would have been a success! I was proud of them for what they did accomplish and also happy with the Fjord mares for being so nice to take to the show. They just hopped into the trailer at home, hopped out of the trailer at the show. They warmed up looking happy and calm among all the snorty thoroughbred event horses! They didn’t even get herd bound and call to each other! While I was coaching Valka’s warm-up I looked up to where Nika was tied to the trailer and she was surrounded by a group of admiring little girls all petting her. > I've gotten very few Emails from the list too, in the > last few days... > Everyone must be out enjoying the horses. > > Amy Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Where is everybody?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've gotten very few Emails from the list too, in the last few days... Everyone must be out enjoying the horses. Amy -Original Message- From: jgayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:00 pm Subject: Where is everybody? This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Never pays to have the Computer geek check out the computer! Ever since I have had twenty to thirty trash messages and only one or two messages from the Fjord list? Are people really that busy? Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Where is everybody?
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Never pays to have the Computer geek check out the computer! Ever since I have had twenty to thirty trash messages and only one or two messages from the Fjord list? Are people really that busy? Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: where theres smoke
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well for these firefighters, fires ARE "rush"...I do think they get addicted! Anyway the firefighters here in Alaska do. Probably some Alaska crews will head down there, as our fire season is mainly in the summer...May through September. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where the Temperature this morning was -2! Lots of sunshine tho. No fires, except in wood stoves and an occasional house where the stove pipe needed cleaning! OK, another update from Jeff. I was just able to reach his cell. He is at the top of some hill. They just " saved " some " old biddie's " home thats a historical site. They " almost burned up " his new firetruck. He said that he got " great pictures " and here is the best quote : " suns comming upfire to the left, fire to the right.what to do?its a good day " ( as hes LAUGHING ) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
where theres smoke
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, another update from Jeff. I was just able to reach his cell. He is at the top of some hill. They just " saved " some " old biddie's " home thats a historical site. They " almost burned up " his new firetruck. He said that he got " great pictures " and here is the best quote : " suns comming upfire to the left, fire to the right.what to do?its a good day " ( as hes LAUGHING ) ; ( Im gonna kick his a$$ when I see him. His fire is headed towards Tustin Foothills and he said they are just trying to protect one home at a timethey cant stop the flames. He sounds pretty excited and happy. They are all nuts. On a worse note.10,000 evacuated near Ramona, CA. to the South of Orange Co. Fire is taking the same path as it did a couple of years ago when 1,000's of homes burned. Malibu is still out of control. Keep those candles lit.Lisa ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
knowing where you belong
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phyllis, Isn't it something how , at times, you really do know where you belong. You certainly needed to be home this last weekend with your aging horse. We missed seeing you and Mary and a lot of other folk, but.there are times when you just know you need to be somewhere else. I was VERY glad we come home when we did. On another note, we got dumped on big time and it just doesn't stop snowing. We got more today and more is coming all week long. BUTit's GORGEOUS out there and PERFECT footing for trail riding and galloping thru the field. I took F. A. Ole , my stallion out today. Promised him a trail ride this morning and made good of it! OH WAS IT FUN. He was up and wanted to go so much and I LOVE riding him. I know I say this often, but that horse is FUN FUN FUN. BIG walk, BIG trot, BIG canter. He loves winter too, and we just have not gotten the weather for truely fun winter riding until NOW!! YES!!! Oh, did forgot to mention that I bought a horse while at the winter meeting!! heehehehe I'm buying Tomas a gelding from Bob and Therine Gudknect. He is 7 yrs old, drives but not started under saddle. I'm hoping he will enjoying riding and then JUMPING!!! Have been missing Silas and need another fjord to bring up the ranks in jumping. :-) I'll keep you all posted. I have my TB and will continue to show him this year. We have our first hunter/jumper show end of March and maybe even a mini event this spring. Although my TB can't hardly be alone riding, so the cross country jumping should be REAL fun. See. why i need another Fjord! :-) Patti Jo Walter-east central wisconsin where it's BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE! www.franciscreekfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Where to advertise saddles?
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Elaine, We've had luck with Craig's list. Good luck, Peg Knutsen www.horsehumor.net - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Where to advertise saddles? This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, For those of you who have bought used English saddles, where do you look for them? I want to sell the Wintec WIDE that I'm not using, and I want to target draft (I include Fjords in that category) and wide draft crosses. Any ideas? Or should I just list it on ebay? Eileen in gray eastern WA, going for a trail ride with the Bob Marshall saddle The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Where to advertise saddles?
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, For those of you who have bought used English saddles, where do you look for them? I want to sell the Wintec WIDE that I'm not using, and I want to target draft (I include Fjords in that category) and wide draft crosses. Any ideas? Or should I just list it on ebay? Eileen in gray eastern WA, going for a trail ride with the Bob Marshall saddle The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: where is my email going?
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Steve, might be the storms we have been having but that is only recently. Will check. Jean Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: where is my email going?
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean-- Thursday, November 16, 2006, you wrote: > Sorry about the many messages but if you look at the dates, they > have been "resting" someplace/Steve, I mentioned this before? Jean Since nobody else seems to be experiencing this kind of problem to such a degree, I suggest you check with the folks at techline.com. This flurry of messages going back over a month is pretty good proof that your stuff is getting hung up somewhere, and the most likely place is at Techline. I just checked the header on some of the old messages, and they WERE received by the Techline server on the date you sent them but were not sent on from there until 2:15 this morning. If they give you any guff, you have the proof right there in the headers of the your own messages you received today. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA From each according to his culpability, to each according to his greed. --Arianna Huffington The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
where one's mind goes
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All - I have been working diligently on the "Stallion Review" portion of the 25th Anniversary and will soon post on the list a bit more information on all of the stallions coming and the great night it is turning out to be. BUT to give you an idea of how our minds work - in connection with the "real" world - The other night I attended a football game at our daughter's high school - because I know nothing about the game - I took some paperwork with me - scheduling the stallions for the review - I mean REALLY how much action is there really in a football game when - all these guys just run into each other and go like two feet? Anyway...when I was sitting there looking out over the field all I could think about is how the football field would make a great driving arena.. I guess you can take the horse out from under you - but you can never take the horse out of our minds! As Ever Pat Holland
Kathy Spiegel where are you
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If Kathy Spiegal is on this list please contact me personally. Thank you Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] (815) 591-3658
RE: Fw: where to find replacement browband
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Camptown Dave - of course! Aka Dave McWethy, aka West Coast [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees From: "windago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: "fjord horse digest" Subject: Fw: where to find replacement browband Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:35:38 -0600 This message is from: "windago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: "windago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: where to find replacement browband >Hello list, >Can anyone tell me where to look for a larger browband for a driving >bridle? I need one larger than what came with my Amish work >harnessyou knowthere is sooo much brain under all that >forlock!! > >Thanks for your input. > >Teresa Farley >Winfield, MO
Re: Fw: where to find replacement browband?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Teresa, The not-enough-browband thing came up for me too when I bought new harness. I know it's not close to you but Jack Alvarez at Driving Essentials in Leola PA got me one the right size when the one that came with the marathon harness was too small. You can talk to him at 1-800-622-8543 or look at the website...www.DrivingEssentials.com for more info. He's outfitted a few Fjords before and should be able to help. Happy shopping! Kay Yellow Pony Farm SE MI
Fw: where to find replacement browband
This message is from: "windago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: "windago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: where to find replacement browband Hello list, Can anyone tell me where to look for a larger browband for a driving bridle? I need one larger than what came with my Amish work harnessyou knowthere is sooo much brain under all that forlock!! Thanks for your input. Teresa Farley Winfield, MO
Re[2]: Where is My Message to the List?
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean-- Friday, February 10, 2006, you wrote: > ...have you been able to do anything about the archives? Last I > tried, they were not working..the whole eScribe site wasn't working! eScribe has finally shut down for good. I don't know of anyone else offering a similar archiving service. If someone can come up with the name and URL of something like that I have a nearly complete archive of the list going back to day one on my hard drive. When I first found eScribe, I was able to upload the back activity to them to get it started. So how about it? If you want archives find me another free archive service. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue. --Anonymous
Re: Where is My Message to the List?
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Steve, good to see you are still with us. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
Re: Where is My Message to the List?
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Steve, Glad to see you back on the list..have you been able to do anything about the archives? Last I tried, they were not working..the whole eScribe site wasn't working! I miss the archives...Also those folks that think they aren't getting messages can go to the Archives and read them there if there ARE any. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where we are having extra warm weather: +35! Nice after our three weeks in the deep freeze! At 03:11 PM 2/10/2006 -0700, you wrote: >This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If you have written a message to the List and it's never shown up > here there are several possible reasons.
Where is My Message to the List?
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you have written a message to the List and it's never shown up here there are several possible reasons. The number one most likely thing that will keep a message off the List is that you have sent it from an email address other than the one which you used when you subscribed. If you are RECEIVING the List, you must still have access to that address, but for some reason you are SENDING from a different one. If you think this may be your problem, look at the detailed headers of a message you receive from the List; there should be a line there which says "Received: from mystery.com", then some cyber-junk, then "for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" where that is the email address you used when you subscribed. Get someone to help you set up your email program so at least your messages to the List come from that address. Or unsubscribe that address and re-subscribe using your new one. The second most common reason that a message will be rejected by the List is when a Digest subscriber replies to a message and leaves the entire Digest attached as a quotation. This is simple to solve, just be sure you delete all but a sentence or two quotation which establishes context for your reply. It's also possible you used the work *virus* or some obscenity in your message. The server watches content and rejects messages for these words. There are a couple other highly unlikely reasons the List server might have rejected your message; and then there is the possibility that it's still wandering around in some obscure corner of the Internet and will arrive someday. -- Steve McIlree - Pferd, Skipper & Clust - Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then give him only two of them. --Phil Pastoret
where do you live?
This message is from: Carol Makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HI Lists, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Put you approximate location (where you live) unless you are embarrassed by it. This is especially directed towards those offering a horse or item for sale. I enjoy knowing what part of the country I am hearing from. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
Re: Where is my ballot??
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:31 PM 10/13/2005, you wrote: This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> According to Page 7 of the Fjord Herald, ballots were supposed to be mailed out on October 1st. All ballots are in the mail. I thought that a three person group was supposed to be formed for this election. So far, I have heard nothing about it. Not true. The ballots will be verified by a second person - an NFHR member & horse owner. What gives with the BOD. Are we too dumb, not be informed of what is going on?? I don't think so. BUT this is not the correct place to ask these questions. This list is not an NFHR list. It is a private list run by Steve McIlree and not the way to get an answer from the NFHR BOD. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is my ballot??
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> According to Page 7 of the Fjord Herald, ballots were supposed to be mailed out on October 1st. Perhaps they are coming from the East coast via a Chinese Tramp steamer just now entering the Panama Canal?? We haven't got ours yet. Has anyone?? Also, when certain things were removed from the By-Laws, they were supposed to be moved to the Operations Manual. Where is the Operations Manual and how can a member find out what is inside. Ballots need to be verified by more than one person. Not that I doubt the integrity, or honest of anyone, but perhaps we need to bring up the old saying: "Trust, but verify." I thought that a three person group was supposed to be formed for this election. So far, I have heard nothing about it. What gives with the BOD. Are we too dumb, not be informed of what is going on?? Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus 2004. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/friendlyfred98
Where and When is the stallion Review?
This message is from: "Catherine lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pat thanks for the heads up where and when is the stallion review? I think it would be fun to have all the boys in one place but with fuel at 3.80 a gal. Our farm will be limited to how far we will haul. If it is far on the calendar maybe we can get a large truck to stop along the way and pick up stallions on the route to the location... like in 1997 when NFHR paid 10,000 to have horses hauled to Equitana USA. Just a thought... For some the distance may be to far. Please give details the earlier the better. Thanks for the heads up. Catherine
Re: Where is everyone??????????????????
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Sue Clark-Sorger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It sure it quiet out there, where is everyone > Maybe enjoying Spring weather and playing outside Definitely spring weather here. We got the equines moved into their new barn a couple weeks back, and are now working on replacing the pasture fences that we had to rip out for barn excavation and construction last summer/fall. Fencing season tends to be a fairly short period between when the ground is too wet/soft to drive the tractor onto, and when the ground gets too dry/hard to get the auger into! > How do you store your > 2 wheeled carts, do you use a shaft stand or one of those stands that go > under the cart My cart is a simple pipe cart (driving animal is an 11.2hh donkey). I store it in my tack room, which has an 8' ceiling. I simply roll it back to the wall, then tip the shafts up until they touch the ceiling---takes up less floor space that way. This would probably not be recommended for a vehicle with wooden shafts. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: Where is everyone??????????????????
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sue, I just got a new Pacific cart last fall (too late to even use it) It is stored in the hay barn..I put support under the shafts (a plastic "sawhorse" with a 2x6 across it) under the short part of the shafts, the rest of the shafts are lying across the seat. I don't know if that is the right way to store it though, so I will be eager to hear from others. I didn't get the cover with it, but bought some "naugahide" type material with a flannel backing to cover it, which is just laid over it now..will make a decent cover for it. Bill Schuil at Pacific told me that My cart was the first one in Alaska. I guess I will have to get busy this summer and get my old mare driving again! Stella is 27 but still acts young and spry. The younger fjords are not trained to drive but I want to get them going also. If only spring will come! Hey, it warmed up to +25 yesterday after -17 the night before. Supposed to hit +50 next week! Major meltdown! Jean in Fairabanks, Alaska, waiting for spring! Fjord fur is flying! >Okay hear we go a question for the drivers on the list: How do you store your >2 wheeled carts, do you use a shaft stand or one of those stands that go >under the cart, not sure what they are called. I have a new Pacific show/training >cart and am looking for the best way to store it when not in use. >Sue > >Sue Clark-Sorger >Crown Oak Fjords >Sandia Park NM > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is everyone??????????????????
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It sure it quiet out there, where is everyone Maybe enjoying Spring weather and playing outside and abandoning your computers. We have rain, wind, hail, thunder and lightning here in NM, so no play time outside for me right now. I getting lonely. Okay hear we go a question for the drivers on the list: How do you store your 2 wheeled carts, do you use a shaft stand or one of those stands that go under the cart, not sure what they are called. I have a new Pacific show/training cart and am looking for the best way to store it when not in use. Sue Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park NM
where is the sun?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean in Alaska - We just got back from a cruise to Antarctica and I found your sun! It rose there at 2:30 am and left at 11:30 pm. Very difficult to get used to, don't know how you cope, though I am sure at this time of year you are looking forward to it. Valerie Columbia, CT
Re: Miller's going down...and where to get a Thorowgood?
This message is from: "John Rooker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> StateLine's warehouse store is near us. I'm glad PetSmart isn't buying Miller's. A Dover store would be really nice! :) *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 9/6/02 at 5:33 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >No it's not PetSmart that's buying Miller's - they did buy PetCo and State >Line. We had a GREAT State Line store in DE which had almost everything. >It >was shut and now StateLine has a small area in PetSmart's stores. > I did hear Dover may be going in where the StateLine store was. Robyn >in >MD
Re: Miller's going down...and where to get a Thorowgood?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No it's not PetSmart that's buying Miller's - they did buy PetCo and State Line. We had a GREAT State Line store in DE which had almost everything. It was shut and now StateLine has a small area in PetSmart's stores. I did hear Dover may be going in where the StateLine store was. Robyn in MD
Re: Miller's going down...and where to get a Thorowgood?
This message is from: "John Rooker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know who might be buying them? PetSmart has purchased State Line Tack which had purchased another dealer before that. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 9/6/02 at 11:04 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Dagrun, go to the Thorowgood web site and you can order directly from >them. I >found out by contacting them by email. Also Miller's is being bought out >by >another company which also bought out another one. Kind of scary getting >to >be a monopoly. You may be able to get the Thorowgood people to express >ship. > What size seat do you need I could ship you Frodo's 17 inch for the >show >and then you could ship it back to me. Robyn in MD
Re: Miller's going down...and where to get a Thorowgood?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/5/02 7:46:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Brigid, can you add in the rules in the Skandifest program that "native Norwegians on Canadian-imported fjords may ride bareback"? >> OK, but only if you wear an Indian costume and feathers in your hair! ;-D Seriously, sorry about the saddle troubles. It just isn't easy to fit these Fjords. Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html";> Fjordings West / )__~ /L /L
Re: Miller's going down...and where to get a Thorowgood?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dagrun, go to the Thorowgood web site and you can order directly from them. I found out by contacting them by email. Also Miller's is being bought out by another company which also bought out another one. Kind of scary getting to be a monopoly. You may be able to get the Thorowgood people to express ship. What size seat do you need I could ship you Frodo's 17 inch for the show and then you could ship it back to me. Robyn in MD
where to get a Thorowgood?
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dagrun, I am a subscriber to the CDList, and one of the other Listers there has a tack store back East...I remember her posting info about Millers bankruptcy & Thorowgood saddles a couple of weeks ago. Anyway, contact Laurie Neely to see if she might be able to help you out: Laurie Neely Tack Up! 41 E Main St Millers Falls MA 01349 Customer Service is still alive! 1-888-726-6511 http://WWW.TACK-UP.COM/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good luck! Kmac Btw: I bought a used Hubertus (Danish made) dressage saddle on Ebaynicely broken in & looks like it will fit an elephant! Should be here tomorrow - wish me luck! Right now I am dreaming of doing some riding in a GOOD dressage saddle (when the docs say I am able to, of course!) Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here
Re: Miller's going down...and where to get a Thorowgood?
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dagrun, try a Canadian Distributer: Greenhawk Harness and Equestrian supply carries the Griffin: http://www.greenhawk.net/ page for the griffin: http://www.greenhawk.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/scstore/p-RIE3663.html?L+scs tore+nclm6191ff9dbc9d+1031301865 They also have a thorowgood "broadback": http://www.greenhawk.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/scstore/p-RIE0027.html?L+scs tore+nclm6191ff9dbc9d+1031304535 "The very broad, cob-type horse needs a saddle engineered to fit a flatter back. This is the answer, with an extra-wide tree, slimline panels and a lower pommel to suit cob withers-all at a great price. Straighter-cut flaps allow broad shoulders to move freely. Unique girthing arrangement and crupper ring for saddle stability." This chain of stores is located in Ontarioa but you could order on-line. The Thorowgoods are on sale, too, the griffin is presently $309.66 US Maybe one of our Ontario List memebers could pick one up and sshhip it? Don't know which would be easier, ordering on-line or having someone get it for ou. Just an idea.. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, warmer today, 65 degrees F. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Miller's going down...and where to get a Thorowgood?
This message is from: "Dagrun Aarsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, I'm back again... (my email is working again, by the way, if you want to throw in a last-minute ad for Skandifest) Just sharing my mild frustration. I ordered the Thorowgood griffin AP broad (XW, 17" seat) and after promising and promising delivery in 2-3 weeks (for 3 months) and making up excuses, the contact at Miller's (Thorowgood Distrib. in the US) had to admit that they will be filing for chapter 11 bankrupcy shortly. I ordered through my tack store...so after expecting it any day, just in time for Skandifest, they had to tell me I will simply not get it. Brigid, can you add in the rules in the Skandifest program that "native Norwegians on Canadian-imported fjords may ride bareback"? If anyone knows of any store having some of these in stock (US, Canada or any other country likely to ship to me) let me know and I'll be on the like a hawk. Can you believe they keep advertising these saddles aggressively in US riding magazines and they're impossible to get? Hrmph. Dagrun, San Jose, CA
where are you?
This message is from: Bonnie Liermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Anne Weyker: Where are you in Wisconsin? I am from Manitowoc, on the shores of Lake Michigan. bonnie
Re: where is the snow?!
This message is from: Pat Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All the snow is in Utah where it should be for the Olympics. Since the Olympics are in Salt Lake and Park City, they should have the snow. I would like a little less in Cache Valley (Utah-Idaho border). We need the snow pack for water next summer, but I am already tired of driving in it. Hey Ruthie, what is it like where you reside. pat ttfn John & Eunice Bosomworth wrote: > This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Didn't think I would ever be saying that a little snow would be just fine! > We are not used to 60+ degree weather in December.I cut the lawn > today (Dec. 5) ...hopefully this will finally be the last for this seaon. > We have had a lot of rain. When our weanlings were let out for a run last > week, > 3 of them found a BIG mud puddle and rolled in it -- like pigs. Should > have had the camera. > > Fjordally yours, Eunice > > John & Eunice Bosomworth > Deere Country Fjords > Ayton, Ontario, CANADA
Re: Where is the snow?!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is about 38 miles north from Karlsruhe (Embedded "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@angus.mystery.com image moved 05.12.2001 05:58 to file: pic16139.pcx) Please respond to fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cc: Subject: Re: Where is the snow?! Security Level:? Internal This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anke, Mannheim is by Karlsruhe? Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of pic16139.pcx]
Re: Where is the snow?!
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anke, Mannheim is by Karlsruhe? Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Where is the snow?!
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...snow? There's some here now in N. Nevada. About 4" down here in the valley. We got blasted yesterday afternoon - a great day to stay inside and bake a Jewish Apple Cake ( a great recipe Becky Vorpagel gave me.) Before the snow started, we thought it best to trailer 3 miles over to the other ranch & check on the cows. It was really blowing & super cold; read: tights under Wrangler's under chinks cold. I didn't want to put a nasty freezing-cold bit in Alycias mouth, so I rode her in her bosal. She was a star, and as frisky & forward as she got, never once took advantage of a perfect situation to be naughty! Together Dave & his Qtr/Arab mare, and Alycia and I cruised all the cows & 3 bulls, managed to check most of the fence and just make it in before the snow started spitting. At one point we were riding right into a hard wind from the south, so strong I almost couldn't breathe, but it felt wonderful, our ponies pushing on in an extended trot, finishing the circle on back to the trailer. They knew where we were headed! Before we left Dave obliged my wierd landscaping whims and did most of the work of hefting into the horse trailer,(while I managed the huge one-piece door in the wind), some gorgeously weathered hand hewn limestone corner blocks that were strewn about where an old ranch building once stood. wood chewing?... Just a tip I learned from a native Nevadan about keeping horses penned in dry lots: to keep 'em from chewing on your fences, toss in some old un-painted & un-treated wood scraps (minus nails,etc.), or non-toxic branches. Her small herd of 5 horses really has a field day with them, dragging them hither and yon, and getting a good chew in as well - all with no ill effects, and yes, wood fence still intact. Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Where is the snow?!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, you asked ... I'm living in Mannheim, this is at the confluence of Rhine and Neckar. (Embedded "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@angus.mystery.com image moved 03.12.2001 19:31 to file: pic11478.pcx) Please respond to fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cc: Subject: Re: Where is the snow?! Security Level:? Internal This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anke, where are you in Germany? I think I asked before when I was coming over but have forgotten, Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563 [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of pic11478.pcx]
Re: Where is the snow?!
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anke, where are you in Germany? I think I asked before when I was coming over but have forgotten, Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Where is the snow?!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thats what I asked me daily ... Here it is raining, raining, raining ... The sky is as grey as a rock, and the temperatures are between 32° and 50° F. I want to have snow, too.
Where is the snow?!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To all of you lucky folks who actually have snow---I am so jealous! We're still waiting patiently for some nice white stuff and those balmy November days are but a annoying memory. When November comes in MI, you *want* it to be chilly! Some white stuff would be *nice!* Personally, I thought it was funny to wear shorts in mid-NOV and still be picking flowers and catnip at Thanksgiving but enough already! It's December-we want some snow, too! Mary and Finn in Ann Arbor MI
Where Fjords were and weren't
This message is from: "Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A week ago last Thursday, I joined Joanna Crell with my mares Signe and Mari
("The Camptown Ladies") to participate in the parade in Washington DC which
marked the end of Michael Muir's trip across the US, driving his horses from
California to Virginia. Michael has had MS most of his life, and drove from a
wheelchair. He is president of Driving for the Disabled. You can see details
of the trip on the website www.horsejourney.com . Joanna played the key roll
in getting the parade permit - not an easy thing to do, she discovered.
We hitched in front of the Relecting Pool (where, it kept going through my
mind, Wilbur Mills ended his career), with the Capitol in the background. The
"Ladies" were well behaved but not impressed ("It's not Oslo!"). We then
paraded up and down Independence Ave. All went well. The crowd was pleased.
Fjords were admired. It was a good day!
This weekend I went for a day to Equine Affaire. It is a different
perspective after a couple of years participating. It made me appreciate all
the great organizing and effort the Giagiaris put into the event for three
(?) years, and all the benefit they brought to the breed. We were definitely
missed this year, and I hope we get back.
Dave
Re: New Mexico Update RE: where is everyone?
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We thought about moving, considering northwest Montana and even Cedar > City, but as we go over things, that seems more than we want to take > on. .. We get a lot of stares and interest because of the horse drawn > buggy, but the cars are scarry. > pat wilson NOT much traffic here Pat! and lots of secondary roads to "toodle" on. Many of them are gated and there's NO traffic on those. They call Montana the "last best" place on earth. It has been extraordinarily beautiful this fall, all the Larch have turned gold/orange and the hills and mountains are ablaze with glory! "Ya' all come! You hear!" =) Ruthie, nw mt Bushwhacker Fjords http://www.libby.org/~bushnell
Re: New Mexico Update RE: where is everyone?
This message is from: Pat Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I envy your and Lisa Pederson and your BLM ground. I wish we had some of that in northern Utah. We have been looking for places to trailer the horses so that we can drive somewhere but on paved roads. We thought about moving, considering northwest Montana and even Cedar City, but as we go over things, that seems more than we want to take on. Keep us posted on your fun drives. We took Lena out last Saturday and hooked her to our cutaway buggy, that was great, but again on paved roads. We get a lot of stares and interest because of the horse drawn buggy, but the cars are scarry. pat wilson ttfn Cynthia Madden wrote: > This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Well, I am still on the list and loving it here in Las > Cruces. I walked through the leaves in my yard on > Sunday (wearing sandles instead of boots or shoes) and > thought what a great change this is from Nebraska in > late October where wind chill temperatures are already > a factor. > > Tank and I went for a drive on Saturday on the BLM > land at the foot of the Organ Mountains. Tank is a > real favorite with the horse people in the > neighborhood and we have to stop and visit everyone on > our way to the entrance to our desert drive. It's > extremely pleasant. This next Saturday we are starting > weekly dressage lessons. It is so nice to be able to > plan things with the horses for the winter. > > The guys are not accepting the change to daylight > savings time very well(neither am I!). When I get home > from work it is almost dark and that's when I turn > them out. Keyah just goes to stand in front of the > feed room telling me it is time for his dinner. Tank, > of course, takes advantage of his time out to graze > the back yard. I have to clean their corrals under the > lights. But it is nice to walk back to the house with > the dogs and look at the stars. I have adopted a giant > schnauzer, Zack. He is an very engaging character and > my mini schnauzer, Arthur, keeps busy trying to keep > him in line. Steve will be here in a few weeks and we > will be busy making our annual supply of wild plum jam > for Christmas. Steve picked the plums and froze the > juice to bring down here. I am looking forward to my > first Thanksgiving here in Las Cruces. > > All in all, life is good here in New Mexico! > > = > Cynthia Madden > Las Cruces, NM > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is everyone/Juli Wills
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pat, Thanks so much for sharing that "Juli is progressing in her recovery!" I've thought of her so often since Darryl's post and although I've never met her I think she has the nicest face and sounds like an exceptionally lovely person. Please be sure to tell her that her List pals are pulling for her and remember her recovery in our prayers. Thanks, Ruthie, nw mt = = = = = = = > Hello Fjord Friends- > My time has been spent facing two challenges: > 1. Looking forward to Julie Will's rebound from her challenge with cancer. > Being a friend who boards my two Fjords at Old Hickory Farm, I have felt the > void on the farm as Julie recovers. Luckily, I get to visit with Julie > regularly and do feel she is progressing and will continue to gain ground! > I am so glad Curt Pierce sent out a notice from Darryl in regards to Julie. > Prayers are a powerful thing and if everyone on the list puts their prayers > together There's no question Julie will be up and about soon! > Pat McCurdy > Cato, NY > Proud Owner of Annie and Patrick :-)
Where is everyone
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Fjord Friends- My time has been spent facing two challenges: 1. Looking forward to Julie Will's rebound from her challenge with cancer. Being a friend who boards my two Fjords at Old Hickory Farm, I have felt the void on the farm as Julie recovers. Luckily, I get to visit with Julie regularly and do feel she is progressing and will continue to gain ground! I am so glad Curt Pierce sent out a notice from Darryl in regards to Julie. Prayers are a powerful thing and if everyone on the list puts their prayers together There's no question Julie will be up and about soon! 2. My daughter, Maggie, has hit the teenage years and has left me alone in the horse world! I'm a recovering Mom who misses her daughter. Now, I'm faced with the challenge of working with two horses and working full time! I'm also learning to ride effectively on Maggie's gelding, Patrick. He's so much more horse than my dear seventeen year old, Annie. I'm figuring this will make me a better horse lady. I took a few lessons from our instructor I will do some more this winter. So, that's my situation, but I'm thankful for so much! What a beautiful Fall we've had! Pat McCurdy Cato, NY Proud Owner of Annie and Patrick :-)
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "John & Eunice Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betsy wrote: <<(sick of clay muck), waiting for new stall doors to arrive, waiting for harness from Camptown...but not Dave's fault...took forever to make decisions and get measurements. One day Mira was 13.2h, the next she was 14.0...was she having a slouch day or a tall day? >> Do you think maybe she was sinking into the mud? Try measuring while she is standing on cement. :-) Fjordally yours, Eunice[EMAIL PROTECTED] John & Eunice Bosomworth Deere Country Fjords Ayton, Ontario, CANADA
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> LOVED the Mullberry episode!! I too love trees and appreciated sharing your experience, also envied your abilities in websiting!! Thanks, Ruthie, nw mt > > I suspect others in Michigan may be recovering from wind? Rain? > Leaves (Fall color) here lasted about 30 seconds. Wind and rain took > everything down. > We are waiting for contractors to come and install French drains around barn > (sick of clay muck), waiting for new stall doors to arrive, waiting for > harness from Camptown...but not Dave's fault...took forever to make > decisions and get measurements. One day Mira was 13.2h, the next she was > 14.0...was she having a slouch day or a tall day? (I have some of each > too...) > > Horses are fine...just being lazy while we deal with life...(and build mini > webpages to keep family informed...) > http://criticseye.bnjweb.org/Rain.html > > http://criticseye.bnjweb.org/Wind.html > > Hey! Jean Gayle! Think of you every time I look at new dog...it's a Corgi: > http://criticseye.bnjweb.org/Panda.html > > Our farrier is in love ---with Lidamir, the filly. He says he wishes the > adult horses he does were as easy to trim. (He likes the other fjords too, > just is so pleasantly surprised about the filly's good behavior.) > > Reading everything on fjord list twice today...getting it at old and new > e-mail > addresses...double the fun. Have not been reading every day, just caught up > today... > So sad to hear about Nansy, Ida and Julie Will. > Best wishes to Julie and Gayle Ware, from a fellow cancer survivor. > > Anke! Do enjoy reading your stories about A'simi... > > Happy Halloween to all...anybody seen my broom? > I want to ride in the moonlight tonight...Think Tomas can fly? > > Betsy -- Michigan > Foxfire Farm > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://foxfirefjords.homestead.com/
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey Beth, enjoyed seeing Panda and knowing you made such a wise decision in breed She is a doll. Also would like to loan you my broom but my Annie Corgi attacked it and it is more a whisk broom now. Not a reliable ride for Halloween! Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anke you are very funny and I can see why you do not want just a polite and following horse or husband Jean :)) Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "Foxfire Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hmmm...where are we? I suspect others in Michigan may be recovering from wind? Rain? Leaves (Fall color) here lasted about 30 seconds. Wind and rain took everything down. We are waiting for contractors to come and install French drains around barn (sick of clay muck), waiting for new stall doors to arrive, waiting for harness from Camptown...but not Dave's fault...took forever to make decisions and get measurements. One day Mira was 13.2h, the next she was 14.0...was she having a slouch day or a tall day? (I have some of each too...) Horses are fine...just being lazy while we deal with life...(and build mini webpages to keep family informed...) http://criticseye.bnjweb.org/Rain.html http://criticseye.bnjweb.org/Wind.html Hey! Jean Gayle! Think of you every time I look at new dog...it's a Corgi: http://criticseye.bnjweb.org/Panda.html Our farrier is in love ---with Lidamir, the filly. He says he wishes the adult horses he does were as easy to trim. (He likes the other fjords too, just is so pleasantly surprised about the filly's good behavior.) Reading everything on fjord list twice today...getting it at old and new e-mail addresses...double the fun. Have not been reading every day, just caught up today... So sad to hear about Nansy, Ida and Julie Will. Best wishes to Julie and Gayle Ware, from a fellow cancer survivor. Anke! Do enjoy reading your stories about A'simi... Happy Halloween to all...anybody seen my broom? I want to ride in the moonlight tonight...Think Tomas can fly? Betsy -- Michigan Foxfire Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://foxfirefjords.homestead.com/
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/30/01 9:58:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << "That's what I ever say. A'simi is a mule!" I didn't cook anything this evening. >> LOL! What a great story Anke. You & A'simi always have a great time together. Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords / )__~ /L /L
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, he is my husband - and so he must have a great sense of humor to stand my and the world best ponys moods daily *lol*. And if he is hungry, doesn't matter. If he was a pony he had to make a strictly diet as soon as possible :-))
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good for you Anke, mules are very bright though and some people they do not like. They have such big ears and our fjords just have good little ears. I know my Gunnar tries to bite me when I lead him to the arena, but he does not reach me. It is just his way of trying to be boss behind my back. He always reluctantly gives in. Whereas my first and beloved Howdie adored me and always gave me the best behavior and he protected me. Your husband must have a great sense of humor but is also hungry? Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean, no, his brakes are well mounted *lol* But at the time being I had to ride alone (it is nearly dark, when I'm able to go for a ride), and A'simi missed other horses, some days more than others. And so, when I'm not in the saddle but leading him, he is a little bit stubborn, and so, I can tell a new story from yesterday. I'm glad, you cannot see my face when writing this story ... it is as red as my little italian car :-) When I was coming out of the forrest two of the soldiers were looking to my horse. And one of them said to the other: "this is a mule!" Oh dear, I felt just if I had to fall down ... A mule - my world best pony! So I had to tell them that he is pretty little ears, nothing without his sometime stubborness, which can remember to a mule. The poor soldiers had to listen to my lecture about the Fjord, about ponies etc. ... And when I was coming home, I told my husband what happened. And what did he, who ride our very gentle Arabohaflinger told me, after he could speak (he was laughing nearly 10 minutes): "That's what I ever say. A'simi is a mule!" I didn't cook anything this evening. (Embedded "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@angus.mystery.com image moved 30.10.2001 20:18 to file: pic21624.pcx) Please respond to fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cc: Subject: Re: where is everyone? Security Level:? Internal This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Say, Anke, what has happened to that well trained Fjordie that your trainer was so impressed with? Turned into a speedy little car with no brakes? :)) Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563 [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of pic21624.pcx]
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/30/01 4:38:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I cannot believe there have not been any posts on the list lately. Is everyone enjoying these last days of autumn or am I not getting my list letters? I find this very unusual that out of 400 + members nobody has anything to say. >> Sorry Carol, I've been too busy enjoying my Fjords : ) Last week I rode every day, which was a first for me. Unfortunately for $ reasons business has been slow, but it's great to have time for one's favorite activities! One major accomplishment was teaching Tommes to neck rein. My goal is to enter more shows, many of which will be "open" against all breeds and under West Coast rules, which state that any horse over 5 years must be in the curb and ridden with one hand. I've been afraid to try this, but one day I said to myself, this is silly! I can do this as well as anyone else. I've been riding Tommes in a Kimberwicke which is similar to his driving bit, and he goes well in it. After some shopping around, I found a Western curb to fit that big mouth. Off I went with my clicker, my new bit, and knowledge from a riding lesson on proper use of leg aids. After 20 minutes, Tommes would do a lovely turn on the forehand and walking turns in both directions. OK, take a deep breath, put those reins in one hand, and go! I practically had to sit on my right hand to keep it from interfering : ) It didn't take long before he learned to do this as well. Next day, same exercise. It took a few clicks & rewards to remind Tommes of the lesson, then he was more than eager to do a repeat performance. The turns on the forehand were SPINS on the forehand. The walking turns were practically pirouettes. OK, now we work on variations of turns : ) as in, just turn left then go straight, turn left then right, big circle/little circle. We ended the lesson with the beginning of sidepass. Yay! So that's what I've been doing instead of writing to the list. As soon as it quits raining, Jack is going to tape me practicing these things front front, side, and back so we can critique. Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords / )__~ /L /L
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Say, Anke, what has happened to that well trained Fjordie that your trainer was so impressed with? Turned into a speedy little car with no brakes? :)) Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Carol, I always log on in the morning to see who is saying what. Out of eight emails, six are ads...just hate that. But I think someone needs to come up with a new idea or query to liven up the list. Hm, dominant mare problems? My mare must be very frustrated as she calls and calls when separated from the boys as I rotate pastures. But when I put her back in with Gunnar she leaves hairless spots on him and threatens him. She does not do that with Charley except that they have a stand off with glares and ears back. She is Holsteiner and twelve. What is the oldest a maiden mare can be bred? Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
Re: where is everyone
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Morning all, I too noticed a very small amount of mail on the list. Even thought we had been taken off for some reason. Glad all are still here. We took our "siri" to a trainer at the end of August and she was there for several weeks. We had good results and now my wife Ann rides her quite often and feels very comfortable. Normally, she rides one day and I ride the next. With frost in the air, we try to wait till it gets to 60°. We live in the open country and so have many different directions to ride, from along the irrigation canals to around harvested fields. We lock up the animals at night and the miniature donkey, the alpaca, and the pigmy goats all get along with Siri. It is fun to see how they bond. Dave Sperl Othello, WA
New Mexico Update RE: where is everyone?
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, I am still on the list and loving it here in Las Cruces. I walked through the leaves in my yard on Sunday (wearing sandles instead of boots or shoes) and thought what a great change this is from Nebraska in late October where wind chill temperatures are already a factor. Tank and I went for a drive on Saturday on the BLM land at the foot of the Organ Mountains. Tank is a real favorite with the horse people in the neighborhood and we have to stop and visit everyone on our way to the entrance to our desert drive. It's extremely pleasant. This next Saturday we are starting weekly dressage lessons. It is so nice to be able to plan things with the horses for the winter. The guys are not accepting the change to daylight savings time very well(neither am I!). When I get home from work it is almost dark and that's when I turn them out. Keyah just goes to stand in front of the feed room telling me it is time for his dinner. Tank, of course, takes advantage of his time out to graze the back yard. I have to clean their corrals under the lights. But it is nice to walk back to the house with the dogs and look at the stars. I have adopted a giant schnauzer, Zack. He is an very engaging character and my mini schnauzer, Arthur, keeps busy trying to keep him in line. Steve will be here in a few weeks and we will be busy making our annual supply of wild plum jam for Christmas. Steve picked the plums and froze the juice to bring down here. I am looking forward to my first Thanksgiving here in Las Cruces. All in all, life is good here in New Mexico! = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > And I'm here ... doing a lot of fun-work with my Fjordie. > On Saturday he stopped in front of the American soldiers who had to guard > the military area here. And there he said, until here and no further step > ... The soldiers were laughing. Ok, I climbed into the saddle and my horsie > is walking. On the way back he cried for his new friend which we met in the > forrest. The soldiers had something to laugh. On Sunday they had there > photos with them to picture my horse ... Oh Anke that is the best story ever. Don't the Fjords love the mud. I almost look forward to the snow on the ground here so Heidi will stay clean until spring. I am so proud of her going through and around some of the downed trees that were still across part of the trail. She really listened to me and is so light in the mouth to guide through all of the branches and limbs. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Carol Your pigs remind me of our chickens. My husband built our horses nice standing stalls where we feed them. However, the chickens think he build the mangers for them to lay their eggs. It is not unusual for me to go turn the horses out and find a bunch of hay in their manger with an egg in the middle. The horses have been well trained by the chickens to leave their nests alone. It amazes me how different species of animals find a way to get along with each other. Mary Harvey
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I'm here ... doing a lot of fun-work with my Fjordie. On Saturday he stopped in front of the American soldiers who had to guard the military area here. And there he said, until here and no further step ... The soldiers were laughing. Ok, I climbed into the saddle and my horsie is walking. On the way back he cried for his new friend which we met in the forrest. The soldiers had something to laugh. On Sunday they had there photos with them to picture my horse ... So, if you know one of this soldiers and this one show you a picture from a German Fjord which amused the soldiers ... that is my Fjord (and the one with the very red face trying to hide herself behind the horse - that's me) ... And what has this funny horse doing yesterday? I cleaned him, needed just 1 hour to see a Fjord under the mud. And just when I have cleaned his face, he got his head out of the halter and galopped away - through the deepest mud, throwing it also on myself. And with this outfit we had to go to the forrest. And everyone was laughing ... Anke with this humorous Fjord
Re: where is everyone?
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Right here Carol! I'm always game to fill a silent space =))) Why don't you start up a wood lot and drag those downed trees out with your Fjord? Someone may view them as an opportunity and gain a special permit to remove them for firewood. Gene and I went for a Fjord outing last week behind a gated road... wriggled and wedged our wagon around the side and hitched up the team and away we went for a 10 mile drive through fiery autumn colors! Nearly froze some extremeties but it was a rousing and rewarding experience! Now it is a beautiful visual gem in the treasure of our memories. (gosh, a veritable Helen Steiner Rice =))) Well, maybe we've stirred up some kind of response Carol... anyone else want to share what they've been doing? Ruthie > This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi, > I cannot believe there have not been any posts on the list lately. Is > everyone enjoying these last days of autumn or am I not getting my list > letters? I find this very unusual that out of 400 + members nobody has > anything to say. LOL Well, I will have to tell of the nice drives and > rides I have had on Heidi these last few days. The best of all is that > the snowmobile trail is cleared behind my house from the tornado damage > of June and I can once again ride that till the snow falls. But this > beautiful part of the woods sure has changed. Most of the trees are > down and one can see for a mile of so now. The real shame of it all is > that this wood will just go to waste and not be logged like private > property owners are doing. Now it is time to feed all the critters and > I look forward to when the pigs go to market and I am sure deep down > Heidi will not miss them also. They do push her around and she has to > put up with them routing through her hay. > > -- > "Built FJORD tough" > Carol M. > On Golden Pond > Northern Wisconsin
where is everyone?
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I cannot believe there have not been any posts on the list lately. Is everyone enjoying these last days of autumn or am I not getting my list letters? I find this very unusual that out of 400 + members nobody has anything to say. LOL Well, I will have to tell of the nice drives and rides I have had on Heidi these last few days. The best of all is that the snowmobile trail is cleared behind my house from the tornado damage of June and I can once again ride that till the snow falls. But this beautiful part of the woods sure has changed. Most of the trees are down and one can see for a mile of so now. The real shame of it all is that this wood will just go to waste and not be logged like private property owners are doing. Now it is time to feed all the critters and I look forward to when the pigs go to market and I am sure deep down Heidi will not miss them also. They do push her around and she has to put up with them routing through her hay. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Re: Where is everybody?
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol-- Tuesday, June 12, 2001, you wrote: > I have not been hearing anything from the List for 3 or 4 days. Steve. > Did I get un listed or what? Or is everyone so busy that they do not > have time to write. Yes. Your subscription was terminated on June 7, because all mail to your address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" was being returned as undeliverable, starting on June 5. Evidently, you have changed your address to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I don't know if I missed a change of address request, or if you didn't make one, but I will take care of the problem. Please folks, when you are changing ISP's you need to let me know. One problem is that often people subscribe their new address, and do nothing about the subscription to the old one. Then I have to periodically purge all addresses that are coming back as "user unknown" or "mailbox full". -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA What a piece of work is a horse! In action how like an angel! In apprehension how like a man! --James Agate(1877-1947)
Re: Where is everybody?
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear carol, lately, i have noticed a drop in readers and listers too. i guess the spring weather has got them out there enjoying their fjords. your trailer sounds nice. if you drive what do you do with the cart? does it come apart or do you haul with another vechical? i just ride. bye,denise _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Where is everybody?
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List and Steve, I have not been hearing anything from the List for 3 or 4 days. Steve. Did I get un listed or what? Or is everyone so busy that they do not have time to write. The news from my side of the world is that I finally have my first horse trailer and hubby forgot all about his insistance that I not get a large one. The bad news about the trailer is it's at the welder getting a new gate for inside and a window is to be ordered for Heidi to look out. But it does tow real nice and I have not destroyed anything while going on down the road. Now I can't wait to load up and make my and Heidi's debut at our first driving club outing. Other than that I have been driving and riding most everyday and Heidi has been doing a wonderful job at lawn mowing when we do not have time. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Re: where the heck is prineville?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] << This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brigid, do not despair! Prineville is east of Bend. Tons of lodging options! You will love it up there this time of year! Good luck at the show,(hey, you may get lucky and win one of the surprise packets I sent up to give out for awards...) Tell us how it all goes, Karen Thanks Karen! Now I wonder what the surprise gifts are... a video tape of leg stretches for riding a round Fjord? A Fjord diet cook book? The possibilities are endless : ) Yes, now I know where Prineville is. Tilly Evers was kind enough to phone me this morning and clue me in. She also recommended an inn which is offering a discount rate.I will give you all a full report as usual! Brigid
Re: where the heck is prineville?
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brigid, do not despair! Prineville is east of Bend. Tons of lodging options! You will love it up there this time of year! Good luck at the show,(hey, you may get lucky and win one of the surprise packets I sent up to give out for awards...) Tell us how it all goes, Karen Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: where the heck is prineville? Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 01:13:39 EDT This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Oregon Fjord Fans- I'm off to the Oregon Gold Open Horse Show on Thursday. Trying to get motel reservations & directions, but I don't have an address for the Crook County Fairgrounds. Does anyone have this? Also, what are some of the surrounding cities (Prineville not listed on Motel6.com!) Brigid _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
where the heck is prineville?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Oregon Fjord Fans- I'm off to the Oregon Gold Open Horse Show on Thursday. Trying to get motel reservations & directions, but I don't have an address for the Crook County Fairgrounds. Does anyone have this? Also, what are some of the surrounding cities (Prineville not listed on Motel6.com!) Brigid
where their's smoke.....Im cooking
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/8/01 8:58:43 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Lisa P., I hope your dinner came out OK!! Ha Ha Ha! Bye for now! Sue g. >> yes, ha ha ha. Its amazing how easy it was after disconecting the smoke alarm. Lisa Pedersen * who admits that my cooking is not as good as my husbands, only problem being that when a Firefighter cooks, its for 13, not 3. LP
Re: Can Somebody Tell Me Where To Find This?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. I forwarded this onto my friend. Very interesting! Pamela
Re: Can Somebody Tell Me Where To Find This?
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pamela-- Sunday, November 12, 2000, you wrote: > What I'm looking for is the one that talks about how roads started > with horses, wagon wheel ruts, etc. And then railroad tracks were > laid to be the same size and on and on. Do any of you remember this > one? Or know where to find it? It was originally contributed by Steve White. By the way you could have found it in the archives. Anyway here it is again. > Thought you all might enjoy this. Interesting how modern technology > is still tied into old ways. > > Steve White > Waterloo, Nebraska, USA > > What every engineer should know. (Remember, these guys make guns & > ammo too ). > > The US Standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 > feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. > > Why was that gauge used? > > Because that's the way they built them in England, and the US > railroads were built by English expatriates. > > Why did the English people build them like that? > > Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built > the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used. > > Why did "they" use that gauge then? > > Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and > tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel > spacing. > > Okay! Why did the wagons use that odd wheel spacing? > > Well, if they tried to use any other spacing the wagons would break > on some of the old, long distance roads, because that's the spacing > of the old wheel ruts. > > So who built these old rutted roads? > > The first long distance roads in Europe were built by Imperial Rome > for the benefit of their legions. The roads have been used ever > since. > > And the ruts? > > The initial ruts, which everyone else had to match for fear of > destroying their wagons, were first made by Roman war chariots. > Since the chariots were made for or by Imperial Rome they were all > alike in the matter of wheel spacing. > > Thus, we have the answer to the original question. The United States > standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the > original specification for an Imperial Roman army war chariot. > > Specs and Bureaucracies live forever. So, the next time you are > handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came up with it, > you may be exactly right. Because the Imperial Roman chariots were > made to be just wide enough to accommodate the back ends of two war > horses. > > Now the twist to the story > > It is long but the conclusion is worth it. > > There's an interesting extension of the story about railroad gauge > and horses' behinds. When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on the > launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides > of the main fuel tank. These are the solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. > The SRBs are made by Thiokol at a factory in Utah. The engineers who > designed the SRBs might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, > but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the > launch site. The railroad line to the factory runs through a tunnel > in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The > tunnel is slightly wider than a railroad track, and the railroad > track is about as wide as two horses' behinds. So a major design > feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation > system was determined by the width of a horse's ass! -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Men are better when riding, more just and more understanding, and more alert and more at ease... --Edward Plantagenet(1373-1413)
Re: Can Somebody Tell Me Where To Find This?
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Try the CD-L Archives. I do remember reading this, almost positive it was on CD-L Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, 3-4 inches of snow, and warm ( +30 F) and I actually got out to ride in all the fresh snow! BTW, we'll have snow on the ground now for the next 4-5 months. Dog mushers are happy! >What I'm looking for is the one that talks about how roads started with >horses, wagon wheel ruts, etc. And then railroad tracks were laid to be the >same size and on and on. Do any of you remember this one? Or know where to >find it? > >Pamela > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can Somebody Tell Me Where To Find This?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something circulated on the internet a while back, and I "think" Mike sent it through the Fjord list. And I need help finding it for a friend who is doing a "quiz show" type of school project, utilizing little known facts. What I'm looking for is the one that talks about how roads started with horses, wagon wheel ruts, etc. And then railroad tracks were laid to be the same size and on and on. Do any of you remember this one? Or know where to find it? Pamela
Re: Give Credit Where Credit is Due - BDF JOHN ARTHUR & BDF MAGNUM at Libby -
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - First of all . . . . Thanks Ursula for the interesting posting on Libby. Congratulations to you and Brian for some great driving. Wish I'd been there this year. You mentioned the driving competition getting fierce at Libby. Well I guess. . . with an FEI driver like Orville Unrau. Were there any levels other than Novice and Open at Libby? Somehow it doesn't seem fair for Training or Preliminary Level drivers competing against World-Class drivers. Orville Unrau has competed in a World Championship, hasn't he? What do you think? On the other hand, it must have been fun to have him back at Libby, and to have the opportunity to compete against him. ~~~ Ursula, you reported . . . ~~ >Beymer pulled off an amazing 31 sec single log skid and placed first... ~~ "Uh-hum", Ursula, but that was - Beth "AND" BDF MAGNUM (Gjest x Holly-Solar daughter) who did the log skid in the amazing 31 seconds. Beth also won the Log Skid in '99 with Magnum's brother, BDF JOHN ARTHUR (Gjest x Holly). And in 1999, BDF MAGNUM placed second to his brother in that class. ~~~ Ursula went on to say - >Beth Beymer and Sandy North of Starfire Farm now own two horses with the >Versitility award...Congratulations and 'good -on-ya-girl' such a lot of >hard work ~ Beth won the 2000 Versatility Award with BDF MAGNUM (Gjest x Holly, having won it last year with BDF JOHN ARTHUR (Gjest x Holly), who by the way is named after our grandson. ~~~~ GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE - Since we (riders/drivers) don't win horse show awards all by ourselves, I think it's only fair to name the horses who pull the log, the carriage, or carry the rider. And in the interest of educating ourselves about our breed, and what makes a good Fjordhorse, I think we also need to name the parents of the horses AND the breeder, if that's not asking too much. How else can we possibly learn what the various bloodlines pass on? I certainly don't wish to diminish any of the credit and "glory" that deservedly goes to good trainers like Beth Beymer and the Jensons. It's pretty obvious that the horses can't do it alone. However, when it comes down to it, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A GOOD HORSE!!! And, we should give them the credit at every opportunity. I'll tell you, after finishing an extraordinarily busy Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacation season, all of us at BDF were SO GRATEFUL, and so much in awe of our wonderful horses who worked so well for us the entire season. The debt we, at Beaver Dam Farm, owe these horses was so evident, particularly this year when we were full-up most every week. All of us (the people) got out of sorts from time to time, but the horses, absolutely never. They just did their jobs!!! It was a wonderful summer . . . But, it was busy and there were stresses. Our program is called a BEGINNER DRIVING VACATION, and that's what it is. Our guests are beginners. Not necessarily beginner horse people, but all are beginner drivers, or the next thing to it. --- Can you imagine what these incredibly patient horses have to put up with during the ten weeks of our season, each week with new, inexperienced hands on the lines? -- I'll tell you, at the end of the season, everyone in the barn felt like getting down on their knees in front of Gjest, Holly, Toril, Maryke & Tessa (our driving horses), as well as all the other horses used everyday for riding lessons and trails. Each horse had done his/her jobs unstintingly through the long summer. They'd never, not once, let us down in any way whatsoever. None of them went lame. None were sick. None were disobedient. -- They just did their job every single day. --- So at the end of the summer, we felt we should kiss their feet, throw them a party . . . Do something to show our gratitude. But, all we could think to do was turn them out on grass for two weeks, which of course they loved. --- The down side of our gesture of gratitude was that at the end of their two weeks at grass, they've, all four of them, completely lost their svelte figures gained through months of work. You wouldn't believe the grass bellies. GIVING CREDIT TO THE HORSES - This has been a pet peeve of mine for years. When I go to horse shows, I like to hear the name of the horse, and hopefully, a little about that horse.
Re: grazing where?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 4 acres It is enough space to turn out in... my 2cents worth Catherine >> There's an important piece of the equation missing. In NM, you can feed a cow on 60 to 120 acres a year apiece. When I lived in Washington state, the rules were quite different. Gail
FW: Trend Virus Report AND where to get a housecall for virus scan and repair.
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Re: Grey Fjords/Where is Lena?
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Mike, Thanks for your advice on the grey. Odin's muzzle is grey - so maybe he is a grey. As to his conformation, I didn't mention it, but we are looking at his conformation. I would be tarred and feathered (gently, of course) by various persons on this list if I didn't consider that. :) So far, I can find nothing out of place. Very nice hindquarters, *beautiful hard pony feet - he looks like he may never need shoes*, very balanced body, straight legs, nice balanced movement - though more an exquisite flat hunter type like his mom's (she is beautiful when she trots) than the flashy dressage type (see Susan Harris' book on gaits for comparision of these types), friendly and spookproof to the max (he whinnies (sp)and comes running whenever anyone approaches the pasture), very friendly, good neck and shoulder. He is going to be a tall, big and solid Fjord, but also move light on his feet. EVERY time the vet or farrier come around I tell them - "Tell me ANYTHING you see that doesn't look right - in the slightest." Believe me, my farrier would tell me immediately - he is a friend and would definitely prefer it if I did not have a stallion around. He is not thrilled that I bought Romulus - and definitely would discourage me from maintaining an inferior stallion. I keep asking Amy (the horsetrainer) about anything wrong - whenever I talk about gelding him early she pleads with me to wait a bit longer. I ask the vet to walk around him and check him out too - actively invite him to point out any conformation flaws. The vet is a popular one, breeds horses and mules himself, does a lot of AI work with the local warmblood breeders and with a nationally known dressage trainer. I think he would be straight with me. The only thing I can find to criticize is I would like his head to be a perfect Fjord head - it looks to me like that is not going to happen - though the overall look may change when his forelock grows out. He won't have a bad looking head (not the overlong "horsie" look), but I don't think it will be that exquisite look some Fjords have that makes grown men weep - and kiss pony muzzles when no one is looking. The only reason I would geld him if he were not grey is that I believe that there are plenty of Anvil's Regin (Regin is his grandsire) offspring out there - particularly in the Pacific Northwest - and lots with the nice qualities that come with those bloodlines. In grey - I don't think that is necessarily so - that is why I asked about other gray offspring from Rudaren/Regin. I think he might well be a good addition to the pool of grey genes - particularly for creating a 14.2+ pony hunter/low level dressage type horse that would be suitable for adults or children. Oh - and Jean reminded me to mention that Odin's sire is Leidjo - which is almost certainly where at least some of his grey genes came from. Anita and Orville regularly got grey babies from Leidjo x Lena(Odin's granddam) - in fact I believe Luisa (Odin's dam) was a one-time test mating with Regin to see if he would transfer his good qualities well. Then Lena went back to Leidjo as she reliably produced greys from him. The fact that Odin carries Leidjo blood is another reason to geld him if he is a brown dun - in that, between Regin and Leidjo, he will be related to a lot of the brown duns in the Pacific Northwest. Probably no real need for more of those bloodlines - unless Odin could add something in particular to the grey gene pool. Speaking of Lena - does anyone on the list have her, or know about the grey filly she had after Luisa - or whether she is still producing babies or what? My next project is asking about breeding for "perfect pony feet" - unless someone does it for me? Thanks all :) Gail > >How about looking at his conformation too? Don't just look at his >color. A bad grey stallion is no more desirable that a bad brown or any >other color. Color is of course a consideration but don't let it be the >only thing your looking at. > >Mike > > > > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net
Re: WHERE ARE YOU????????
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When list members advertise, a horse for sale or an upcoming clinic, etc., could you please put where you are. I am constantly pulling out my NFHR membership roster to find out where people are. This of course doesn't always work because every one on The List is not a NFHR member. Thanks. Sue Clark-Sorger Sandia Park, NM (Where we are having wonderful driving/riding weather).
Re: Where are the geldings?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last week a friend of mine in Washington state told me she went to an all breed auction. A six year old Fjord gelding sold for $1000. She said he was well trained, no flaws to her eye. I told her next time she sees something like this at an auction, not to tell me the next day, but call me ASAP Pamela
Where are the geldings?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian J. - interesting that you have so many folks looking for geldings. When I began looking for a Fjord I sent a "want ad" to 40 breeders. While I did find geldings forsale they were on the west coast and east coast. I am in the midwest!! I came close to purchasing one from a video when I decided to first exhaust all possibilities in the midwest. I called most everyone in Minnesota within a 3 hours radius of Mpls./St. Paul. I found lots of babies forsale, young stock forsale and a few young geldings, but NO older, trained geldings - and I was willing to pay!!! :) Finally, I decided to just go see one of the younger geldings. The fellow had mentioned earlier that he had an older gelding, not the most beautiful, but had done everything - however, he was not forsale. When I got to the farm there were two horses in the barn - he said they decided they would be willing to sell the older one as well. Within l0 minutes I knew he was the horse for me - and I thought he was BEAUTIFUL - drafty with the sweetest temperment and big brown eyes. Yes, he has a long head and tends to be a bit chunky - but he is wonderful. I was so thankful the family was willing to sell him to me - they had owned him for 9 years. He has been a great teaching horse for me (driving) and while I know the family misses him they are happy to see him getting LOTS of attention. The point of my story is to those looking for geldings - call everyone Go see as many as you can and if someone has one of the older, done everything, been everywhere geldings ASK if they would be willing to sell it. Be willing to pay a decent price - those years of experience are worth alot. To those of you who might have an older gelding that has some worthwhile experience - if the good ole' boy is just hanging around while you fuss and work with younger horses - have just to darn many horses or don't have time to go and do stuff with him - consider selling him to someone who does. The lady I bought my Fjord from still refers to him as her "best friend" but she is happy we are enjoying him, love him and are giving him a wonderful home. Best of luck to those looking for that wonderful Fjord in their future. Linda in Minnesota where it is HOT, HOT, HOT and muggy - the horses just love it when I hose them down at the end of the day - then they go stand in front of their fans on their stalls :)
Re: Where the heck are you going?
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oops - wrong address. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where the heck are you going?
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Gail ! Long time, hows Whdnie ? Whodini is great - now that we figured out that he really needs hind shoes. He kept going slightly off in his left hind - just short strided a little. Turns out his front/rear hoof angles have to be right. His conformation behind doesn't allow for any errors. We had been trying to leave him barefoot around here as we were just working him in sandy loam AND he picks so many fights that we wanted to prevent him from really doing damage by kicking out. But he seems to cause some kind of soft tissue damage (tendon pulls, who knows what?) if allowed to play without shoes. Farrier said he was wearing his heels down - creating the long toe/low heel situation behind. When we put hind shoes on him he was magically cured. We were jumping him - until he came up lame in front after plowing through a low jump and bumping his front cannon bone(didn't figure it was high enough to try jumping). The idea is that Amy rides and shows him - cleans up in the shows and thereby enhances her reputation as a trainer (but she isn't giving up her day job running a tack store). Amy really is not willing to push horses as hard as it takes to actually run a training barn - so her "training career" has to be a little off beat. Anyway - she was supposed to show him at a little schooling show here - but instead, she rode Gunthar (cause Whodini was lame). This was at the dressage barn where Gunthar ran off with the trainer several times - he basically got kicked out. Gunthar did very well, and took third in a jumping class (very low rails) over all the $10,000 horses. Partly his Myler bit (it really helps!! in getting him on the bit and bending) - partly Amy's riding, and partly the fact that he hadn't been worked in months and wasn't arena sour. We had a kind of sweet revenge - though the dressage trainer really was a good sport about it. Right now Whodini is learning to be a trail horse - and spending his days picking fights in the pasture. He has a prehensile upper lip that can be *really irritating* to a dignified QH! He plays chicken by "lipping" Jim's horse until Jim's horse just has to take a chunk out of his hide. He must have 20 dings on him at all times. I am sure the horses regard him as the worst kind of "little Brother" anyone could ever have. Are you going with Del >Tanner on his Wagon Drive ?wish we could go this year. You did this? With horses - or just as a passenger? Jim is out of vacation - but I might go. - Although it sounds like you might be able to cram it into a weekend. Tell me about it if you have time - and juicy personal experience. When we travel >from Ca. to Libby, Mt. I plan to go to Libby this year. we have to get Health Cert. within a few days of >travel, or risk expiring while on the road. Wow - I didn't realize they were so short-lived. Nevada does require a Neg. >Coggins and a Health Cert. We haven't gotten organized to get a Coggins - so we probably will not go. I actually would prefer not going so far anyway right now. In the fall we're taking our horses up to Modoc to stay on a cattle/hay ranch. Great place for family stuff. You have the whole house to yourself in the middle of 1000 acres of hay. (By fall it will be cut and we can ride in the huge fields). Plus you can take horses into the Warner Wilderness. Gotta figure out how to get a cell phone that works anywhere though - I don't particularly want to be six hours from nowhere without help. - we need satellite phone I think. What we really need is a way to rent one for a short time - wonder if anyone does that. On to somewhere, maybe Nev. ? where you need a >BRAND INSPECTION.LOL all true. How on earth would I prove that I own Whodini. I don't think I even have a bill of sale for him (though could just write one up I suppose) and he has no papers or registration. Great to hear from you. Are you really thinking of moving to Utah (or was it Idaho?) anytime soon? I think I'll be coming to the California Classic CDE, so may see you there. Luisa's baby is doing well. The vet says he has never in his life seen such a precocious foal. Farrier says the same. He acts like he is all grown up at two months old. When the vet arrives in his truck Otis (well, maybe we're naming him Otis - I hate Norwegian names, but feel obligated to use one somehow) comes galloping up to it to see the vet. Farrier walked into a pen with him where he was lying down and he just looked up - then laid back down to relax. He has discovered the apples in the trees - that I thought the big horses would find first. No - he eats them and gets the runs - and they are completely unaware! Better go. Anyway - great to hear from you. Gail BTW, Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where the heck are you going?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 99-07-06 05:59:35 EDT, you write: << Not really Fjord related - but I know there are listers who travel between CA and Nevada fairly regularly. I want to take two horses to Elko Nevada for a few days later this week to ride in the Ruby Mountains. From what I can gather, no health certificate is required by *California* when re-entering as long as they have been gone less than 14 days. However, it appears to me that Nevada has an unequivocal rule that any horse shipped, transported or otherwise brought into the state must have a health certificate (with negative Coggins). Does anyone know for sure whether this applies to a horse that will only be there for a few days? I wasn't sure whether the regulation applied only to horses that were going to stay in the state, though, from the wording of the statute, it sounds like it applies to all horses crossing the Nevada line. >> Hi Gail ! Long time, hows Whdnie ?Are you going with Del Tanner on his Wagon Drive ?wish we could go this year. When we travel from Ca. to Libby, Mt. we have to get Health Cert. within a few days of travel, or risk expiring while on the road. Nevada does require a Neg. Coggins and a Health Cert. but the kicker is that Arazona, who we go through for a total of 1 hr or so, also has strict rulesthen we get up to Idaho, ( or is it UTAH) and we have to show registration papers, plus all the goodies already mentioned. On to somewhere, maybe Nev. ? where you need a BRAND INSPECTION.LOL all true. Then we get to Mt. who never seems to care what we are hauling, and into the show grounds, where, in the pouring rain, in the middle of the night, some poor guy came out, and checked ALL paperwork, and compared our papers with the swirls and whirls on our Fjords. Whu ! Moral of this story iscall your VET who can bring everything with him to get you where you are going. My vet also had to verify something in route with one bourder crossing...as we were on the last day of coggins check.Makes you want to stay home now, dosnt it ? BTW, crossing back into Calif. all they wanted to know was if we were hauling cherries and any of that nice UTAH hay.at 2.80 a bale. I wish. Nope, we just had the rip-off Calif, 12.00 a bale stuff, and NO CHERRIES.Lisa Pedersen
Re: where is my foal
This message is from: "B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know, Griet, it makes you crazy! But she will do it at the "right" time. Best wishes, Bonnie Hendricks Gallery Horse Portraits, Oil Paintings, Prints, Books http://www.hendricksgallery.com http://members.xoom.com/BHendricks/Gallery1.html -Original Message- From: griet vandenbroucke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 5:20 PM Subject: Re: where is my foal >This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >She looks ready since the day she was due so?? >I don't know anymore. >As long as she seemes allright I 'm fine. >The udder isn't too thick but she drups since a month ago. > >Lot's of greetings Griet. >-Oorspronkelijk bericht- >Van: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Datum: vrijdag 23 april 1999 0:08 >Onderwerp: Re: where is my foal > > >>This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Gosh...that is a long time to wait! But good to hear the vet isn't >>worried! Be patient...nature knows best! Is her udder full and does she >>look ready? >> >> > >
Re: where is my foal
This message is from: "griet vandenbroucke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> She looks ready since the day she was due so?? I don't know anymore. As long as she seemes allright I 'm fine. The udder isn't too thick but she drups since a month ago. Lot's of greetings Griet. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: vrijdag 23 april 1999 0:08 Onderwerp: Re: where is my foal >This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Gosh...that is a long time to wait! But good to hear the vet isn't >worried! Be patient...nature knows best! Is her udder full and does she >look ready? > >
Re: where is my foal
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone! My ferret's name is Alfvin, meaning "friends of the elves". If you knew my ferret, you would understand his name! :) Anyway, thought I would try to help with the A name. Listed below are mythological names beginning with A. These are actually in Old Icelandic, which is considered to be the same as, or very close to Old Norse. These are NOT from modern Norwegian texts. Alfrodul=sun goddess Adils=king Aegir=sea god Alf=dwarf Alfarin=giant Ali=god name (son of Odhinn) Alsvart=giant Althiolf=dwarf Alvig=giant Am=giant Ama=gaintess Amgerd=giantess (note, Gerd is another name of a giantesssymbolizes great beauty) Andvari=dwarf Angrboda=giantess Apli=ox Arf=ox Arfuni=ox Asabrag=name of the god, Thorr AsaThor= same as above Ask=first human man Aslaug=mortal daughter of legendary hero, Sigurd. Atal=sea king Ati=sea king Atla=gaintess Atli=another name for Thorr Atrid=another name for the god, Odhinn Atridi=same as above, also associated with god, Freyr Aud=son of goddess of the night Audhumla=first aurochcreation myth Audi=son of king Audmund=sea king Aurboda=giantess Aurgelmir=giant Aurgrimnir=giant Aurnir=gaint Austri=dwarf (meaning east) Awl=dwarf Lynda
