[Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH
I'm using basic XPATH4AS2 of XFactor Studio. I have an XPATH Query like: var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad [contains(label, '')]; And it's Ok. Search for '' into the field 'label' and founds several results. I have seen into class code that there is an upper-case function that i can use to make more useful searchs... i tried: var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label], mySearchTerm.toUpperCase ())]; NO RESULTS... somebody knows how to use the upper-case function in the example? I'm implementing in Flash 8 Pro and AS2.0. Thanks in advance ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH
var mySearchTerm:String = HeLlO; var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label],' + mySearchTerm.toUpperCase () + ')]; This maybe? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens julian atienza Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2006 10:06 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Onderwerp: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH I'm using basic XPATH4AS2 of XFactor Studio. I have an XPATH Query like: var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad [contains(label, '')]; And it's Ok. Search for '' into the field 'label' and founds several results. I have seen into class code that there is an upper-case function that i can use to make more useful searchs... i tried: var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label], mySearchTerm.toUpperCase ())]; NO RESULTS... somebody knows how to use the upper-case function in the example? I'm implementing in Flash 8 Pro and AS2.0. Thanks in advance ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] I need your support
I can confirm that this solution does _not_ work on Safari... Let me know it I need to test something :), as we are looking forward to a back/history solution for flash sites. greetings Joeri On 5/22/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've written an external interface solution for back/forward/bookmark functionality. Before I use it, I'd really appreciate it if you guys could help me get some information on the different browsers it works with. http://anticipatechange.com/pierinc/browserSupport/ So far I've tested Firefox and IE, I think though that I will have to use the IE solution for other (safari i think?) popular agents. Thank you! M. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Tufat.com Datagrid
Hey, I need datagrid where can i change row height for each row, height can vary for each row. I just found Tufat's datagrid for 5 USD, but today his site doesnt work for me http://www.tufat.com/datagrid.php is that site working, does someone knows, where can i get this component, or similar (i have to have possibility change height for each row) ? I need it ASAP, today is best, for my customer Thanks for advices -- - Franto http://blog.franto.com http://www.flashcoders.sk ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH
In a recent project, I used the Macromedia implementation of XPath instead of the Xfactor XPath. I can't say which one is better (or faster)... Although I did have to double check everything because of some small (syntax) differences.. See the documentation: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flash/fl8/XpathAPI.pdf I didn't miss any functionality not present in one of the implementations, but that could be because I just do simple extraction of the xml nodes. greetings Joeri On 5/23/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: var mySearchTerm:String = HeLlO; var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label],' + mySearchTerm.toUpperCase () + ')]; This maybe? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens julian atienza Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2006 10:06 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Onderwerp: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH I'm using basic XPATH4AS2 of XFactor Studio. I have an XPATH Query like: var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad [contains(label, '')]; And it's Ok. Search for '' into the field 'label' and founds several results. I have seen into class code that there is an upper-case function that i can use to make more useful searchs... i tried: var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label], mySearchTerm.toUpperCase ())]; NO RESULTS... somebody knows how to use the upper-case function in the example? I'm implementing in Flash 8 Pro and AS2.0. Thanks in advance ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Flash Remoting onStatus in Flash Player 8
Hi, I'm having a strange problem that only occurs in Flash Player 8 and above. Apparently when I publish to Player 8, my Connection.onStatus ceases to function correctly. The method is still called, but the status information (normally passed as a Object) is undefined. Any ideas on this? Thanks, Rui Duarte Silva Senior Flash Developer / User Experience Developer MNI - ALERT www.alert-online.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Slides and Screens - Help, please
Google Flash Slideshow. You will find all kinds of code and tips. You may find that people in this forum are more inclined to get involved when you have a more particular problem with some code that you are debugging. How do I write code... is not a promising start to a question. If you look at one of the many examples already written, you will find it easy to get started and then we can be of more help. Ron Loren R. Elks wrote: I am beginning to work with screens and slides. I understand how to load external swfs into my slides or screens. Here's the question: How do I write code such that when my external swf that is loaded into the current slide or screen finishes playing, the application will automatically move to the next slide (or another slide or screen)? Sincerely, Loren ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] domain name
I try to find a page and determine if www are there I have to write all the time the website name. Is there a way to know if www is in Name ?? Thank you domainname = new LocalConnection(); trace(domainname.domain()); this.dm.text = domainname.domain(); if (this.dm.text == www.webpage.com) { #include flash_AS_detection.as } else { getURL(http://www.webpage.com;, _parent); } ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] domain name
You cannot include an as file in run-time. This is done by the compiler when you publish your swf file. When you want to check the existence of a substring in some string (like a domain name) you can use the string functions in actionscript. Like the split function... var domain_str:String = www.somedomain.com; var split_arr:Array = domain_str.split (.); /* * split_arr is now an array [www,somedomain,com] if (split_arr[0] == www) { trace (got www); } else { trace (no www here); } But i'm not sure this is what you mean! Simon Citeren Laurent CUCHET [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I try to find a page and determine if www are there I have to write all the time the website name. Is there a way to know if www is in Name ?? Thank you domainname = new LocalConnection(); trace(domainname.domain()); this.dm.text = domainname.domain(); if (this.dm.text == www.webpage.com) { #include flash_AS_detection.as } else { getURL(http://www.webpage.com;, _parent); } ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] domain name
You cannot include an as file in run-time. This is done by the compiler when you publish your swf file. When you want to check the existence of a substring in some string (like a domain name) you can use the string functions in actionscript. Like the split function... var domain_str:String = www.somedomain.com; var split_arr:Array = domain_str.split (.); /* * split_arr is now an array [www,somedomain,com] if (split_arr[0] == www) { trace (got www); } else { trace (no www here); } But i'm not sure this is what you mean! Simon - Original Message - From: Laurent CUCHET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] domain name I try to find a page and determine if www are there I have to write all the time the website name. Is there a way to know if www is in Name ?? Thank you domainname = new LocalConnection(); trace(domainname.domain()); this.dm.text = domainname.domain(); if (this.dm.text == www.webpage.com) { #include flash_AS_detection.as } else { getURL(http://www.webpage.com;, _parent); } ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] [Q] Multipurpose Media Player with FLV/SWF/JPEG???
Howdy... :) Okay... Now I need to find or create a multi-purpose media play that can read a playlist that tells me what sorts of files that need to be played and it should support at least FLV(progressive for now but not limited to)/SWF/JPEG file formats... I've done some googling last night but I was not able to find anything that can do that... It sorta surprised me... The technology has been out there for a while and there was no product that I was able to find it... What would be the reason for that??? Is is something that is not possible or is is something that won't make much money??? Anyways... Did anybody ever seen one or built one before and would like share some thoughts on this??? ;) Have a nice day!!! :) Jason ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] I need your support
It does not work with Opera either. Personally, I think that the IE solution will work only on IE, and you should be using the firefox solution, or something very similar to it, for all other browsers. Ujjwal Kabra On 5/23/06, Joeri van Oostveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can confirm that this solution does _not_ work on Safari... Let me know it I need to test something :), as we are looking forward to a back/history solution for flash sites. greetings Joeri On 5/22/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've written an external interface solution for back/forward/bookmark functionality. Before I use it, I'd really appreciate it if you guys could help me get some information on the different browsers it works with. http://anticipatechange.com/pierinc/browserSupport/ So far I've tested Firefox and IE, I think though that I will have to use the IE solution for other (safari i think?) popular agents. Thank you! M. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH
In a recent project, I used the Macromedia implementation of XPath instead of the Xfactor XPath. If I could jump in with a side question, I thought I had heard something about that - can that be published down to the Flash 7 player? I would assume so if it's just As 2.0 classes, but just thought I would check. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Sound.position inaccuracy
If i load up an mp3 file, i can get its duration sound position no problem... however while playing, if i load another mp3 to replace the 1st mp3, the duration changes correctly - but the .position picks up from the previous mp3... even when the mp3 is started at 0 ms! Does the sound object need a frame or two or somethign to properly clean up and produce an accurate .position value? Seems a bit buggy... - e.dolecki ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] ObjectEncoding for LocalConnection
It works now ;) The main issue was simple: the argument I specified in the receiving method was incorrect. As soon as I cleared that up, I was receiving log events. thanks again for your files and help Muz, JG On 5/22/06, Muzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tried it again in beta 3 and works fine. Uploaded the sample: http://www.muzakdeezign.com/flex2/localconn.zip Note however that I'm sending *from flex to flash* You're looking for the opposite right? Haven't tried that yet, but should work just the same (AFAIK). regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] ObjectEncoding for LocalConnection Yeah that's exactly it, trying to get Flex front end to communicate with Xray connector in flash 8 swf. Right now, I set up a simple LC in a basic Flex front end that has a method for listening for trace statements and while it connects just fine, nothing is received on the method defined. I assume since LC uses AMF that it'd have to be set to AMF0 for the communication to work. Maybe I'm missing something simple, but I've tripple checked things like *when* the connection is made in relation to when the object is instantiated (hence the custom method being available before connecting). Any tricks you used when you did it? THanks again Muz, JG ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Flex list
what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Flexcoders: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list
The one on yahoo groups - Flexcoders Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Flexcoders www.flexcoders.org On 5/23/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Stealth mission John? Don't get caught, mind. May the force be with ya! Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson Sent: 23 May 2006 15:21 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list Flexcoders: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness
I've embedded the font, naturally. I'm getting extremely buggy behavior. Sometimes the textfield will appear partially... only the right half of the textfield, but most of the time, not at all. At one point, I found that removing the dropshadow filter from the textfield, and then adding it back later programmatically helped the problem. But, now that I've added the alpha mask, it doesn't behave right, and it's very slow. The only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with the combination of movies compiled with MTASC versus the Flash IDE. The shell is all code, compiled in MTASC, and it loads in modules created in the Flash IDE. On 5/22/06, Vivek lakhanpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try embedding font for the textfield. Thanks, Vivek On 5/23/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I'm masking a MovieClip with an alpha mask using cacheAsBitmap. The MovieClip has a dynamic text field inside it that I populate at a later time. When I play the movie, the area where the textfield is remains empty. If I drag the corner of the player to resize the movie, the text magically appears. Anyone run into this sort of weird behavior? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Thanks for the tip, already signed up! - Marcelo. On 5/23/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: excellent, thanks! On 5/23/06, Daniel Cascais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flexcoders www.flexcoders.org On 5/23/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list
ha! I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;) So far so good! On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stealth mission John? Don't get caught, mind. May the force be with ya! Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson Sent: 23 May 2006 15:21 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list Flexcoders: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst. Attack!!! ;-) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: 23 May 2006 15:55 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list ha! I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;) So far so good! On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stealth mission John? Don't get caught, mind. May the force be with ya! Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson Sent: 23 May 2006 15:21 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list Flexcoders: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list
lol, you're starting to scare me :) On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst. Attack!!! ;-) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: 23 May 2006 15:55 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list ha! I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;) So far so good! On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stealth mission John? Don't get caught, mind. May the force be with ya! Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson Sent: 23 May 2006 15:21 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list Flexcoders: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Yeah, I get that from time to time. Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: 23 May 2006 16:02 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list lol, you're starting to scare me :) On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst. Attack!!! ;-) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: 23 May 2006 15:55 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list ha! I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;) So far so good! On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stealth mission John? Don't get caught, mind. May the force be with ya! Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson Sent: 23 May 2006 15:21 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list Flexcoders: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Lee sometimes become violent when he hear about Flex. Try to speak to him about haXe to calm him down :) lol, you're starting to scare me :) On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst. Attack!!! ;-) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: 23 May 2006 15:55 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list ha! I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;) So far so good! On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stealth mission John? Don't get caught, mind. May the force be with ya! Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson Sent: 23 May 2006 15:21 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list Flexcoders: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst. Attack!!! It's still Flash ;) Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list
Er, I think I'm starting to build a bit of a reputation. Who else has been following my coding/political endeavours? Hehe Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cannasse Sent: 23 May 2006 16:14 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list Lee sometimes become violent when he hear about Flex. Try to speak to him about haXe to calm him down :) lol, you're starting to scare me :) On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst. Attack!!! ;-) Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: 23 May 2006 15:55 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list ha! I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;) So far so good! On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stealth mission John? Don't get caught, mind. May the force be with ya! Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Robson Sent: 23 May 2006 15:21 To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list Flexcoders: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion? Thanks for the help, -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list
I know, but I used to get annoyed at Macr, and have always quite detested Adobe... I kinda feel like the product line has become tainted. Besides, what's wrong with Laszlo? Lee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: 23 May 2006 16:10 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst. Attack!!! It's still Flash ;) Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH
:( Sorry. About replies... 1) Bernard Visscher. I posted the sentence bad. I didn't toUpperCase like literal. take this literal example if u prefer: var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case(fichaLocalidad),' + TESTING PHRASE + ')]; But no good results anyway... 2)Joeri van Oostveen. Macromedia implementation of XPath have less functions and functionally. That's because I'm using XFactor Studio implementation. No contains function. f.e. 3)Merrill, Jason. I didn't understood your mssage. Thanks anyway :( Nobody knows the upper-case of XPATH for Xfactor Studio and how can i use it Thanks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Hello all, So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys prefer, and why? I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-) Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Diddo! I'd love to hear some discussion on this... Doug Coning Senior Web Development Programmer FORUM Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:10 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hello all, So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys prefer, and why? I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-) Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness
Indeed, it´s a buggy flash player behavior. When you mix TextFields with Masks and FX, all goes wrong. It has nothing to do with MTASC. I already reported that to MM (with very simple and small test cases) Maybe in the next update? Or maybe we need to wait for the V9 player. On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:42:35 -0300, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've embedded the font, naturally. I'm getting extremely buggy behavior. Sometimes the textfield will appear partially... only the right half of the textfield, but most of the time, not at all. At one point, I found that removing the dropshadow filter from the textfield, and then adding it back later programmatically helped the problem. But, now that I've added the alpha mask, it doesn't behave right, and it's very slow. The only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with the combination of movies compiled with MTASC versus the Flash IDE. The shell is all code, compiled in MTASC, and it loads in modules created in the Flash IDE. On 5/22/06, Vivek lakhanpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try embedding font for the textfield. Thanks, Vivek On 5/23/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I'm masking a MovieClip with an alpha mask using cacheAsBitmap. The MovieClip has a dynamic text field inside it that I populate at a later time. When I play the movie, the area where the textfield is remains empty. If I drag the corner of the player to resize the movie, the text magically appears. Anyone run into this sort of weird behavior? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- _ Marcelo Volmaro ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] I need your support
Hmm, I am told that it probably cannot be done in Safari Joeri, but let there be hope, I will be in deep thought concering this problem. The IE solution is used when IE is detected, so the firefox solution is what's used rather by default. In spite of this I was expecting it to work in Opera. Luckily, I can grab the windows compilation for Opera for debugging... Joeri I have a question for you, does the external interface initialize with Safari? Check for ExternalInterface.available? true/false in the test swf. Thank you for the support guys, M. On 5/23/06, Ujjwal Kabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does not work with Opera either. Personally, I think that the IE solution will work only on IE, and you should be using the firefox solution, or something very similar to it, for all other browsers. Ujjwal Kabra On 5/23/06, Joeri van Oostveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can confirm that this solution does _not_ work on Safari... Let me know it I need to test something :), as we are looking forward to a back/history solution for flash sites. greetings Joeri On 5/22/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've written an external interface solution for back/forward/bookmark functionality. Before I use it, I'd really appreciate it if you guys could help me get some information on the different browsers it works with. http://anticipatechange.com/pierinc/browserSupport/ So far I've tested Firefox and IE, I think though that I will have to use the IE solution for other (safari i think?) popular agents. Thank you! M. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH
Julian- I found out a few weeks ago that the Xfactor Studio XPATH classes were broken when compiling to Flash 8. Compiling to flash 6 and 7 was ok, but not 8. -Mark On 5/23/06 11:23 AM, julian atienza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :( Sorry. About replies... 1) Bernard Visscher. I posted the sentence bad. I didn't toUpperCase like literal. take this literal example if u prefer: var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case(fichaLocalidad),' + TESTING PHRASE + ')]; But no good results anyway... 2)Joeri van Oostveen. Macromedia implementation of XPath have less functions and functionally. That's because I'm using XFactor Studio implementation. No contains function. f.e. 3)Merrill, Jason. I didn't understood your mssage. Thanks anyway :( Nobody knows the upper-case of XPATH for Xfactor Studio and how can i use it Thanks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness
Yeah, I was sure MTASC was fine... I was more thinking it was the combination of the two. Thanks for the info. The entire system I am building is based on Masking text (a signage system), so this is a real problem. I guess i'll have to wait on using filters. Thanks again, -g On 5/23/06, Marcelo Volmaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, it´s a buggy flash player behavior. When you mix TextFields with Masks and FX, all goes wrong. It has nothing to do with MTASC. I already reported that to MM (with very simple and small test cases) Maybe in the next update? Or maybe we need to wait for the V9 player. On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:42:35 -0300, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've embedded the font, naturally. I'm getting extremely buggy behavior. Sometimes the textfield will appear partially... only the right half of the textfield, but most of the time, not at all. At one point, I found that removing the dropshadow filter from the textfield, and then adding it back later programmatically helped the problem. But, now that I've added the alpha mask, it doesn't behave right, and it's very slow. The only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with the combination of movies compiled with MTASC versus the Flash IDE. The shell is all code, compiled in MTASC, and it loads in modules created in the Flash IDE. On 5/22/06, Vivek lakhanpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try embedding font for the textfield. Thanks, Vivek On 5/23/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I'm masking a MovieClip with an alpha mask using cacheAsBitmap. The MovieClip has a dynamic text field inside it that I populate at a later time. When I play the movie, the area where the textfield is remains empty. If I drag the corner of the player to resize the movie, the text magically appears. Anyone run into this sort of weird behavior? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- _ Marcelo Volmaro ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
well my initial response is: Depends on who you're talking to. I'm completely stoked about Flex2 builder in that building applications/forms etc is what it's suited for. So, when dealing with these type of projects its by far the choice IMHO. But I don't know how you compare it to the Flash IDE. I mean, the other half of my projects are experience sites (marketing sites) where there's alot of triditional animation and assets being used. In that scenario, Flash IDE is, as of right now, ideal. You really can't compare it as far as I can tell right now. If you're strictly talking about form/application developement, yeah Flex rocks \m/ and certainly seems to address many of the voodoo areas that you'd experience with building the same apps in Flash IDE. then again, take what I'm saying with the knowledge that I've just started seriously working with Flex2 and I *live* in the IDE/FlashDevelop otherwise. hth, JG On 5/23/06, Doug Coning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diddo! I'd love to hear some discussion on this... Doug Coning Senior Web Development Programmer FORUM Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:10 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hello all, So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys prefer, and why? I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-) Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
It' more dependent on what kind of project you are building. Flex would not be good for an animated cartoon or highly customized sites. It takes much longer to build a business RIA in Flash... Etc. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:10 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hello all, So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys prefer, and why? I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-) Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH
I found out a few weeks ago that the Xfactor Studio XPATH classes were broken when compiling to Flash 8. Compiling to flash 6 and 7 was ok, but not 8. Works just for me. Are you using an older version of the classes? Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] How to disable button if MC is loaded
Add this... this.enabled = false; to your onRelease code. You'll also need additional code to set that to enabled = true; if another button is clicked. Gerry On May 23, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Tony Watkins wrote: Ok, take a look at my scribble. Notice that onRelease, the about button loads resources/about.swf. Great, but if resources/about.swf is already loaded and you release the button, about.swf loads all over again. If about.swf is already loaded I would like the about button to ignore onRelease – or something like that. mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOver = function() { this.gotoAndPlay(2); }; mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOut = function() { this.gotoAndPlay(_totalframes-_currentframe); }; mainMenu.menu01.about.onRelease = function() { this._parent._parent._parent.grassAni01.gotoAndPlay(playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.workingHereAni01.gotoAndPlay (playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.nurses.gotoAndPlay(playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.about.loadMovie(resources/ about.swf, 1); }; ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] IFrames in flex
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RE: [Flashcoders] How to disable button if MC is loaded
Set a true/false flag or test if the about.swf is visible this._parent._parent._parent wooo -- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Watkins Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:54 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] How to disable button if MC is loaded Ok, take a look at my scribble. Notice that onRelease, the about button loads resources/about.swf. Great, but if resources/about.swf is already loaded and you release the button, about.swf loads all over again. If about.swf is already loaded I would like the about button to ignore onRelease - or something like that. mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOver = function() { this.gotoAndPlay(2); }; mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOut = function() { this.gotoAndPlay(_totalframes-_currentframe); }; mainMenu.menu01.about.onRelease = function() { this._parent._parent._parent.grassAni01.gotoAndPlay(playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.workingHereAni01.gotoAndPlay(playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.nurses.gotoAndPlay(playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.about.loadMovie(resources/about.swf, 1); }; ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Hi Kevin I'm not an expert but Maybe I could add an idea. Flex is for a huge and serious applications development based on Flash Player. Flash is for a fully creative environment and very cool in terms of design and animation (that's why I said Serious on Flex, I don't mean better whit it), that can do almost all that Flex does, but there's lot of work between them. Flex is in days what Flash could be In Months, in terms of Application Development. You can see some examples of Flex and Flash Sites at www.adobe.com. Don't worry. You'll see the difference yourself. Bye Jorge A. DĂaz GutiĂ©rrez -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Merrill, Jason Enviado el: martes, 23 de mayo de 2006 12:01 Para: Flashcoders mailing list Asunto: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE It' more dependent on what kind of project you are building. Flex would not be good for an animated cartoon or highly customized sites. It takes much longer to build a business RIA in Flash... Etc. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:10 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hello all, So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys prefer, and why? I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-) Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Personally I think a far more important question is how (well) Flex and Flash will work together, because now we'll have 2 IDE's to work with. For a long time there have been 2 (or more) type of Flash users: developers and designers. And with each new (Flash) version the gap between the 2 became bigger. Now with the release of Flex2 both type of users will be able to focus better on what they're good at, working with an IDE they feel comfortable with. Maybe one downside for certain developers will be that we'll have to own/use both. I'm thinking of freelancers like myself. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hello all, So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys prefer, and why? I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-) Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
and someone have experienced the openlaszlo to give some advice about it ? it promises the same as Flex, plus outputs in SWF and DHTML, but it is free and OpenSource. www.openlaszlo.org and to get more people in trouble ( just to decide about -) there is haXe, www.haxe.org also free, also generating for javascript and swf and AS 3.0, if I´m not wrong. I´m note sure like people are going to cope with so many options -) JoĂ£o Carlos 2006/5/23, Muzak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Personally I think a far more important question is how (well) Flex and Flash will work together, because now we'll have 2 IDE's to work with. For a long time there have been 2 (or more) type of Flash users: developers and designers. And with each new (Flash) version the gap between the 2 became bigger. Now with the release of Flex2 both type of users will be able to focus better on what they're good at, working with an IDE they feel comfortable with. Maybe one downside for certain developers will be that we'll have to own/use both. I'm thinking of freelancers like myself. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hello all, So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys prefer, and why? I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-) Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- JoĂ£o Carlos ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] How to disable button if MC is loaded
Tony, This is how I do it... this example is code for the About button on the root timeline. code aboutBut.onPress = function() { if (_global.currentBtn == this) { this.enabled = false; } else { curMC = _global.currentBtn; curMC.enabled = true; curMC.onRollOut(); //sets the rollover effect back to a static mode } }; aboutBut.onRelease = function() { _global.currentBtn = this; this.enabled = false; sectLoadSeq(about.swf); //a function to load the section which does other stuff...including setting the button // clicked to the rollOver state to signify the current section selected. }; /code Gerry ... http://www.thespikeranch.com Certified Macromedia Flash MX Designer ... On May 23, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Tony Watkins wrote: Ok, take a look at my scribble. Notice that onRelease, the about button loads resources/about.swf. Great, but if resources/about.swf is already loaded and you release the button, about.swf loads all over again. If about.swf is already loaded I would like the about button to ignore onRelease – or something like that. mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOver = function() { this.gotoAndPlay(2); }; mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOut = function() { this.gotoAndPlay(_totalframes-_currentframe); }; mainMenu.menu01.about.onRelease = function() { this._parent._parent._parent.grassAni01.gotoAndPlay(playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.workingHereAni01.gotoAndPlay (playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.nurses.gotoAndPlay(playOut); this._parent._parent._parent.about.loadMovie(resources/ about.swf, 1); }; ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I was looking at the components that make up the Flex environment and noticed that Charting is now a separate component. The promo mentions that charting will work seamlessly with Flex Data Services. Does this mean that it won't work with Web Services? Do you have to use the Data Services to use charts? Doug Coning Senior Web Development Programmer FORUM Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muzak Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:10 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Personally I think a far more important question is how (well) Flex and Flash will work together, because now we'll have 2 IDE's to work with. For a long time there have been 2 (or more) type of Flash users: developers and designers. And with each new (Flash) version the gap between the 2 became bigger. Now with the release of Flex2 both type of users will be able to focus better on what they're good at, working with an IDE they feel comfortable with. Maybe one downside for certain developers will be that we'll have to own/use both. I'm thinking of freelancers like myself. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE Hello all, So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys prefer, and why? I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-) Thanks, Kevin N. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers
Hey all, A question regarding frame labels. When using the gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20) it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *. Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a number. Sorry if that was a bit confusing. Thanks, Kevin Kevin Fitzpatrick Flash Designer, SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions Center 3999 West Chester Pike Newtown Square, PA 19073 C (267) 254-6225 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] gafette
I need to take a Person Picture, crop the face an put it in a gaffete to print, I want to use flash, how can I do that? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines. Like many other Flash developers, I do both games and animation projects and also RIA projects, so it looks like I'm now going to have to invest two products from now on! This is just one reason why I'm shifting more and more to open source tools. I also feel that Adobe/Macromedia has not done a good job explaining the need for two products, or why I would want to use one or another for a particular project. I mean, a deeper explanation than: Flash is for games and animations; Flex is for Form-based RIAs. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines. Imagine if everyone had complained to Henry Ford about the same thing. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines. Like many other Flash developers, I do both games and animation projects and also RIA projects, so it looks like I'm now going to have to invest two products from now on! This is just one reason why I'm shifting more and more to open source tools. The IDE isn't being split. There are (and have been) two separate IDEs to do two separate (and quite different) things. Up until now, one of those IDEs (FlexBuilder 1.5) has, in my opinion, sucked pretty badly. The development approach for Flex has more in common with Visual Basic or any other traditional forms-based development IDE than with traditional Flash development, and I think it's unrealistic to expect one IDE to serve such disparate needs. And, for what it's worth, the major improvement in the new FlexBuilder IDE is largely a result of being based on Eclipse (an open-source product) - if Adobe had to create Eclipse's functionality from scratch, the new IDE would likely be much more expensive and not as good. I also feel that Adobe/Macromedia has not done a good job explaining the need for two products, or why I would want to use one or another for a particular project. I mean, a deeper explanation than: Flash is for games and animations; Flex is for Form-based RIAs. How much deeper could it possibly be? If you're building a traditional forms-based application, you want to use Flex. If not, you don't! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] setRGB for Several Instances of MovieClip
of MovieClipB inside of it? In theory, I should be able to set the color of MovieClipB, and thereby change the appearance of all instances of MovieClipA? Doesn't work though -- it only changes the appearance of the instance of MovieClipA in which I changed the color of MovieClipB. It doesn't work because it isn't supposed to work like that (your theory isn't correct). All instances are that - instances. Whatever you change on one instance isn't reflected on the other. They're completely different objects now, even if they have been created from the same original symbol. Is there any way to do this? You have to change the color of all instances you want the color to be changed. IE, var myMovies = [this.movieclipa, this.movieclipb, this.movieclipc]; for (var i in myMovies) new Color(myMovies[i]).setRGB(0xwhatevercolor); Or any longer version of that. - Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one to go away for weekends. I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell multiple versions of the IDE, like they have been doing with Basic and Professional. On 5/23/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines. Imagine if everyone had complained to Henry Ford about the same thing. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one to go away for weekends. I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell multiple versions of the IDE, like they have been doing with Basic and Professional. That's a crappy analogy. These IDEs do DIFFERENT THINGS! A better analogy might be, a car and a boat. Of course, maybe you want a really expensive car-boat that's not especially good for driving or boating: http://www.dukw.com/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on whether you believe Form-based applications are different enough from other flash apps to warrant their own IDE. Personally, I don't. I can already build Form-based apps just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML. So please explain how Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords). Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool. Yes, AS 3 looks promising. But why not just build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based actionscript compiler/editor? Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is confusing. I'm sure it will create all sorts of workflow headaches between artists and developers. And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients who may only have a passing familiarity with Flash that they're going to have to buy both Flash 9 and Flex 2 to compile my stuff. :( On 5/23/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one to go away for weekends. I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell multiple versions of the IDE, like they have been doing with Basic and Professional. That's a crappy analogy. These IDEs do DIFFERENT THINGS! A better analogy might be, a car and a boat. Of course, maybe you want a really expensive car-boat that's not especially good for driving or boating: http://www.dukw.com/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Flash is to Flexbuilder as Fireworks is to Dreamweaver. That's the way I see it, except that we may have to wait to benefit from the type of integration FW and DW have accomplished. Just my two pence -Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Pasztory Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:18 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on whether you believe Form-based applications are different enough from other flash apps to warrant their own IDE. Personally, I don't. I can already build Form-based apps just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML. So please explain how Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords). Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool. Yes, AS 3 looks promising. But why not just build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based actionscript compiler/editor? Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is confusing. I'm sure it will create all sorts of workflow headaches between artists and developers. And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients who may only have a passing familiarity with Flash that they're going to have to buy both Flash 9 and Flex 2 to compile my stuff. :( On 5/23/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one to go away for weekends. I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell multiple versions of the IDE, like they have been doing with Basic and Professional. That's a crappy analogy. These IDEs do DIFFERENT THINGS! A better analogy might be, a car and a boat. Of course, maybe you want a really expensive car-boat that's not especially good for driving or boating: http://www.dukw.com/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I do, I take my Rodeo off-road camping and my Prius for the HOV lanes on the freeway. :)There is a reason they started making more than the model T. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Pasztory Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:22 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one to go away for weekends. I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell multiple versions of the IDE, like they have been doing with Basic and Professional. On 5/23/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines. Imagine if everyone had complained to Henry Ford about the same thing. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on whether you believe Form-based applications are different enough from other flash apps to warrant their own IDE. Personally, I don't. I can already build Form-based apps just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML. So please explain how Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords). I don't know from superior - I have no knowledge or experience using the Flash IDE, and I'm not a Flash programmer. I AM a Flex programmer, however. (An inexperienced Flex programmer, but you have to start somewhere.) I also have experience developing forms-based applications using other traditional IDEs, such as Visual Studio and its predecessors. These IDEs have a common development idiom - you drag controls onto the form, you bind event handlers to them, etc. The Flash IDE does not follow this idiom, and the FlexBuilder IDE does. Whether you like it or not, this is very valuable if you want to attract developers who are familiar with the idiom. Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool. Yes, AS 3 looks promising. But why not just build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based actionscript compiler/editor? It's all about the idiom, again - people with experience using traditional forms-based IDEs expect to see certain things. Eclipse has those things, the Flash IDE doesn't (at least, as far as I know - again, I'm not a Flash developer.) Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is confusing. I'm sure it will create all sorts of workflow headaches between artists and developers. I don't think the two products are similar at all. In fact, if they didn't create applications that used the same runtime environment (the Flash Player itself) you'd have no reason to assume they shared any commonality at all. And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients who may only have a passing familiarity with Flash that they're going to have to buy both Flash 9 and Flex 2 to compile my stuff. :( Well, fortunately, they won't need to buy Flex 2 to compile your stuff. There will apparently be a free, command-line Flex compiler which you can download and use separately from FlexBuilder. In theory, you could just use Notepad or any other editor for Flex development, although that would probably be quite tedious and painful; in the same way, you can write C# apps with Notepad and compile them using the .NET MSIL compiler, but yecch. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
This may be a dumb question, but has anyone ever developed a project in Flex and towards the end decided that Flash would have been a better tool for the project? Or vice-a-versa? If so, why? I'm trying to determine if there are any pitfalls of deciding to use Flex over Flash for larger projects. Hope that makes sense... Doug Coning Senior Web Development Programmer FORUM Solutions, LLC This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] setRGB for Several Instances of MovieClip
Yeah, that's what I figured. I was hoping it was more of a Tint type effect, as if I manually added a tint on MovieClipB. Thanks! Zeh Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/2006 02:16 PM Please respond to Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com cc Subject Re: [Flashcoders] setRGB for Several Instances of MovieClip of MovieClipB inside of it? In theory, I should be able to set the color of MovieClipB, and thereby change the appearance of all instances of MovieClipA? Doesn't work though -- it only changes the appearance of the instance of MovieClipA in which I changed the color of MovieClipB. It doesn't work because it isn't supposed to work like that (your theory isn't correct). All instances are that - instances. Whatever you change on one instance isn't reflected on the other. They're completely different objects now, even if they have been created from the same original symbol. Is there any way to do this? You have to change the color of all instances you want the color to be changed. IE, var myMovies = [this.movieclipa, this.movieclipb, this.movieclipc]; for (var i in myMovies) new Color(myMovies[i]).setRGB(0xwhatevercolor); Or any longer version of that. - Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Haven´t used Flex Builder yet, but I must say I´m quite satisfied with the Flash 8 IDE + FlashDevelop2 + mtasc bundle right now. Flash IDE is just fine both for animations and for the building of forms IMHO. Wether I will be going to Flex2 or haXe, keep working with AS2 will depend on several factors... however, even though we are being overwhelmed by the amount of options, it is indeed exciting to see all this new technology emerging :) - so, one day after another... - Marcelo. On 5/23/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on whether you believe Form-based applications are different enough from other flash apps to warrant their own IDE. Personally, I don't. I can already build Form-based apps just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML. So please explain how Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords). I don't know from superior - I have no knowledge or experience using the Flash IDE, and I'm not a Flash programmer. I AM a Flex programmer, however. (An inexperienced Flex programmer, but you have to start somewhere.) I also have experience developing forms-based applications using other traditional IDEs, such as Visual Studio and its predecessors. These IDEs have a common development idiom - you drag controls onto the form, you bind event handlers to them, etc. The Flash IDE does not follow this idiom, and the FlexBuilder IDE does. Whether you like it or not, this is very valuable if you want to attract developers who are familiar with the idiom. Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool. Yes, AS 3 looks promising. But why not just build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based actionscript compiler/editor? It's all about the idiom, again - people with experience using traditional forms-based IDEs expect to see certain things. Eclipse has those things, the Flash IDE doesn't (at least, as far as I know - again, I'm not a Flash developer.) Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is confusing. I'm sure it will create all sorts of workflow headaches between artists and developers. I don't think the two products are similar at all. In fact, if they didn't create applications that used the same runtime environment (the Flash Player itself) you'd have no reason to assume they shared any commonality at all. And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients who may only have a passing familiarity with Flash that they're going to have to buy both Flash 9 and Flex 2 to compile my stuff. :( Well, fortunately, they won't need to buy Flex 2 to compile your stuff. There will apparently be a free, command-line Flex compiler which you can download and use separately from FlexBuilder. In theory, you could just use Notepad or any other editor for Flex development, although that would probably be quite tedious and painful; in the same way, you can write C# apps with Notepad and compile them using the .NET MSIL compiler, but yecch. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Really, the only thing Flash and Flex have incommon is what they compile to and they both us AS... Form application development in Flash is a royal pain.. In Flex its much easier and you can build a much better experience than with Flash. I know, I have done both... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:41 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on whether you believe Form-based applications are different enough from other flash apps to warrant their own IDE. Personally, I don't. I can already build Form-based apps just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML. So please explain how Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords). I don't know from superior - I have no knowledge or experience using the Flash IDE, and I'm not a Flash programmer. I AM a Flex programmer, however. (An inexperienced Flex programmer, but you have to start somewhere.) I also have experience developing forms-based applications using other traditional IDEs, such as Visual Studio and its predecessors. These IDEs have a common development idiom - you drag controls onto the form, you bind event handlers to them, etc. The Flash IDE does not follow this idiom, and the FlexBuilder IDE does. Whether you like it or not, this is very valuable if you want to attract developers who are familiar with the idiom. Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool. Yes, AS 3 looks promising. But why not just build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based actionscript compiler/editor? It's all about the idiom, again - people with experience using traditional forms-based IDEs expect to see certain things. Eclipse has those things, the Flash IDE doesn't (at least, as far as I know - again, I'm not a Flash developer.) Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is confusing. I'm sure it will create all sorts of workflow headaches between artists and developers. I don't think the two products are similar at all. In fact, if they didn't create applications that used the same runtime environment (the Flash Player itself) you'd have no reason to assume they shared any commonality at all. And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients who may only have a passing familiarity with Flash that they're going to have to buy both Flash 9 and Flex 2 to compile my stuff. :( Well, fortunately, they won't need to buy Flex 2 to compile your stuff. There will apparently be a free, command-line Flex compiler which you can download and use separately from FlexBuilder. In theory, you could just use Notepad or any other editor for Flex development, although that would probably be quite tedious and painful; in the same way, you can write C# apps with Notepad and compile them using the .NET MSIL compiler, but yecch. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
At my previous employer, wanted to build a project with Flex 1.5, client couldn't/wouldn't pay for it, so we built it with Flash - took 5 times longer, and was 5-times buggier but it was do-able. Basically had to write the same kinds of classes for Flash that macromedia already built for Flex, and make it renderable by descriptive XML. It was a fun project, but I wish I had Flex. It was a very large interactive portal with different elements which also displayed metrics dashboards. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Coning Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:45 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE This may be a dumb question, but has anyone ever developed a project in Flex and towards the end decided that Flash would have been a better tool for the project? Or vice-a-versa? If so, why? I'm trying to determine if there are any pitfalls of deciding to use Flex over Flash for larger projects. Hope that makes sense... Doug Coning Senior Web Development Programmer FORUM Solutions, LLC This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Flash Remoting Freezing Player
Hello everyone, I have been doing some work with Flash Remoting and AMFPHP. The problem im having is the same problem I get with using PHP and XML. The Flash player seems to just freeze whenever I make a backend call. No loading animations or anything causing the user to think the app has crashed. Is this a common problem and are there any work arounds for this? Any info about be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Mike ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers
Matthew, Because in this case 2 would refer to the second of a number of slides. I know it's not an ideal situation. Jason, As to it being a best practice to start with a non-numeric character, I totally understand the logic behind that. However, I believe that this is flaw in the player that we are being detoured around by the *best practices*. As we all know 2 is very different from 2. If I specify a string 2 why would the player reinterpret that into the Number(2)? Whether I named it a silly name or not, why would the developers have thought that I'd want them to change the datatype of my parameter when I explicitly defined it as a String? We'll probably work around it by calling the frame Slide 2 or whatever but it does seem like a silly restriction. Of course, there is *always* the chance that I'm doing something incredibly wrong, too :) Thanks, Kevin Kevin Fitzpatrick Flash Designer, SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions Center 3999 West Chester Pike Newtown Square, PA 19073 C (267) 254-6225 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Simpson Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Just curious, but why would you want to use numerics as frame labels then use frameLabel:String? Why not frameLabel:Number? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fitzpatrick, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:33 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Hey all, A question regarding frame labels. When using the gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20) it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *. Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a number. Sorry if that was a bit confusing. Thanks, Kevin Kevin Fitzpatrick Flash Designer, SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions Center 3999 West Chester Pike Newtown Square, PA 19073 C (267) 254-6225 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
You can use a car for a easy drive in a city and a 4X4 for robust use :D IMHO __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers
There are a lot of silly bugs you have to work around with best practices - this is common in just about any application development environment. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fitzpatrick, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:36 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Matthew, Because in this case 2 would refer to the second of a number of slides. I know it's not an ideal situation. Jason, As to it being a best practice to start with a non-numeric character, I totally understand the logic behind that. However, I believe that this is flaw in the player that we are being detoured around by the *best practices*. As we all know 2 is very different from 2. If I specify a string 2 why would the player reinterpret that into the Number(2)? Whether I named it a silly name or not, why would the developers have thought that I'd want them to change the datatype of my parameter when I explicitly defined it as a String? We'll probably work around it by calling the frame Slide 2 or whatever but it does seem like a silly restriction. Of course, there is *always* the chance that I'm doing something incredibly wrong, too :) Thanks, Kevin Kevin Fitzpatrick Flash Designer, SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions Center 3999 West Chester Pike Newtown Square, PA 19073 C (267) 254-6225 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Simpson Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Just curious, but why would you want to use numerics as frame labels then use frameLabel:String? Why not frameLabel:Number? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fitzpatrick, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:33 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Hey all, A question regarding frame labels. When using the gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20) it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *. Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a number. Sorry if that was a bit confusing. Thanks, Kevin Kevin Fitzpatrick Flash Designer, SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions Center 3999 West Chester Pike Newtown Square, PA 19073 C (267) 254-6225 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers
Thanks for the knowledge Kevin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fitzpatrick, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:36 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Matthew, Because in this case 2 would refer to the second of a number of slides. I know it's not an ideal situation. Jason, As to it being a best practice to start with a non-numeric character, I totally understand the logic behind that. However, I believe that this is flaw in the player that we are being detoured around by the *best practices*. As we all know 2 is very different from 2. If I specify a string 2 why would the player reinterpret that into the Number(2)? Whether I named it a silly name or not, why would the developers have thought that I'd want them to change the datatype of my parameter when I explicitly defined it as a String? We'll probably work around it by calling the frame Slide 2 or whatever but it does seem like a silly restriction. Of course, there is *always* the chance that I'm doing something incredibly wrong, too :) Thanks, Kevin Kevin Fitzpatrick Flash Designer, SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions Center 3999 West Chester Pike Newtown Square, PA 19073 C (267) 254-6225 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Simpson Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Just curious, but why would you want to use numerics as frame labels then use frameLabel:String? Why not frameLabel:Number? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fitzpatrick, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:33 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Hey all, A question regarding frame labels. When using the gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20) it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *. Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a number. Sorry if that was a bit confusing. Thanks, Kevin Kevin Fitzpatrick Flash Designer, SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions Center 3999 West Chester Pike Newtown Square, PA 19073 C (267) 254-6225 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
I hate to keep flogging this topic, but I couldn't stop thinking about this all through lunch. I will make the following comments and then move on to more useful things. 1. The mere existance of this thread suggests to me that Adobe hasn't done an adequate job explaining what purpose Flex serves, and how it's supposed to integrate with current workflows. Maybe they will when they release, but they haven't yet. 2. I don't buy the argument that Flex is *just* for making forms apps. There are a number of features in Flex that would be highly desireable for the Flash IDE, such as the ability to use XML to define a Flash file. If I want to take advantage of these features, I'm going to have to use Flex, regardless of whether I am a Forms Developer or a Non-forms Developer. 3. I am all for Adobe having a wide variety of IDEs, including Flash Newbie Edition, Flash for Recovering VB Coders Edition, and Flash Super-Ultra-Mega Enterprise Edition. But I am questioning the decision to segment the product line in such a way that requires me to invest in two overlapping but distinct tools. I love Flash. If Flex brings more traditional developers on board with Flash I think that's great. But I wanted to share my perspective as someone who's been developing Flash for years, that these developments are somewhat perplexing. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
1. The mere existance of this thread suggests to me that Adobe hasn't done an adequate job explaining what purpose Flex serves, and how it's supposed to integrate with current workflows. Maybe they will when they release, but they haven't yet. Of course, everyone else commenting in this thread seems to disagree with you. Perhaps the problem isn't with Adobe? 2. I don't buy the argument that Flex is *just* for making forms apps. There are a number of features in Flex that would be highly desireable for the Flash IDE, such as the ability to use XML to define a Flash file. If I want to take advantage of these features, I'm going to have to use Flex, regardless of whether I am a Forms Developer or a Non-forms Developer. I think that, despite these features, that's all FlexBuilder is designed for - forms-based applications. I don't know much about traditional Flash development, but my experience with FlexBuilder leads me to believe that it would be difficult to use FlexBuilder to build non-forms-based applications (which is presumably different from using FlexBuilder as a code editor for ActionScript). But if all you want to do is write MXML, you could use any XML-aware editor, and validate against the MXML schema. If you're not actually building forms, your MXML will presumably not have much in it, since MXML primarily describes the view of your application as containers and controls. 3. I am all for Adobe having a wide variety of IDEs, including Flash Newbie Edition, Flash for Recovering VB Coders Edition, and Flash Super-Ultra-Mega Enterprise Edition. But I am questioning the decision to segment the product line in such a way that requires me to invest in two overlapping but distinct tools. Well, first, this is largely academic, because they've already done this. And again, this isn't anything new - right now, in my training room, there's a Flex 1.5 class using FlexBuilder 1.5, which is a superset of Dreamweaver. FlexBuilder 1.5 is not especially pleasant to use, in my opinion. So, practically speaking, there seem to have been a limited number of options: 1. Build a single uber-IDE capable of serving traditional Flash developers and Flex developers. Of course, given the fundamental differences between how these development models work, this would essentially consist of shoehorning two IDEs within one program - there would be very little commonality between them. Because they'd be building all this stuff from scratch, it would presumably be more expensive and less reliable. 2. Continue using Dreamweaver as the basis for FlexBuilder. Yecch. 3. Use an existing IDE as the basis of FlexBuilder - one that is already quite popular with the target audience for Flex - Eclipse. But in any case, I don't see these tools as overlapping. As a Flex developer, I doubt I'll ever use the Flash IDE. Despite the use of a common runtime, Flex development seems to me to be fundamentally different from Flash development. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
I think that, despite these features, that's all FlexBuilder is designed for - forms-based applications. I don't know much about traditional Flash development, but my experience with FlexBuilder leads me to believe that it would be difficult to use FlexBuilder to build non-forms-based applications (which is presumably different from using FlexBuilder as a code editor for ActionScript). FWIW, IMO, not just forms, but metrics dashboards, shopping sites, and I even saw a really well done interactive e-learning course done with Flex. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
1. Build a single uber-IDE capable of serving traditional Flash developers and Flex developers. Of course, given the fundamental differences between how these development models work, this would essentially consist of shoehorning two IDEs within one program - there would be very little commonality between them. Because they'd be building all this stuff from scratch, it would presumably be more expensive and less reliable. I don't necessarily agree with you here. The Flash IDE *could* have a robust and useful code view that could also be used to build flex apps without ever creating an fla file. That could be used to edit classes and even timeline code, while the traditional Flash IDE view could be used to make fla files, edit timeline animations, etc. I think it *could* be one uber-IDE, as you called it, without necessarily being either more expensive or less reliable. The root of the problem is that it's more profitable to have two IDEs, because one makes developers from other languages happy and one makes the users of previous Flash versions happy, and in the middle is a rather large group of people who will have to pay for both. Making one IDE would only make those in the middle happy, and would require Adobe to rethink a lot of their existing code base instead of simply polishing up the existing code base. More work and less profit doesn't make for a good business model. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
Whoa, hold the phone...eLearning? Do you know/remember what the site was? I would be very interested to see it -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:12 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE I think that, despite these features, that's all FlexBuilder is designed for - forms-based applications. I don't know much about traditional Flash development, but my experience with FlexBuilder leads me to believe that it would be difficult to use FlexBuilder to build non-forms-based applications (which is presumably different from using FlexBuilder as a code editor for ActionScript). FWIW, IMO, not just forms, but metrics dashboards, shopping sites, and I even saw a really well done interactive e-learning course done with Flex. Jason Merrill Bank of America | www.bankofamerica.com Learning Organization Effectiveness Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers
What's the problem with using a single letter before the frame number? Such as, f2, f18, f50, etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fitzpatrick, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:33 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers Hey all, A question regarding frame labels. When using the gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20) it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *. Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a number. Sorry if that was a bit confusing. Thanks, Kevin ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
Adam, I hear what you're saying. It is frustrating to have to shell out money for two different products. Here's the history. The Flash IDE has had numerous workflow problems, intrinsic problems and limitations in the language (prototype based), slow engine (in comparison to fp9) and other subtle but nasty bugs. Flash started out and was an animation program that has been upgraded again and again with new features on top of the previous program and new features added to the previous renderer. For example, AS2 is compiled down to AS1. Rather than built on a shaky foundation Macromedia realized the need to create a new sturdy foundation and fix the problems that plagued the original program and AS1 engine. So looking at all the things they wanted to do and fix they created a new rendering engine from the ground up and rather than reinvent the wheel, took one of the best development environment of the time and built a new product called Flex Builder off of it. They set the focus on making it create Applications for the web. They set out and fixed a whole huge mess of problems for us. No more having to built our own preloaders, awesome event handlers that bubble up, great layout tools, new states and transitions with a few lines of code, easy bookmarking in the browser and a whole lot of other things they knew we would be using it for. Plenty of things were planned in the design and implementation. Most of the benefits are realized once you use it. It would not have worked as well to have overhauled the Flash IDE. A lot of people are trying to differentiate the two by saying one is for animation and design and one is for applications and forms. Well yes and no. You have to try it but I'm going to say you can do 90% of what is on the web with Flex. I made this site in about an hour as practice to see if it could be used for websites. Copying and pasting of course (sorry it lost some formatting). http://www.judahfrangipane.com/examples/main.html. Flex uses MXML and ActionScript 3. You still have a design view but you can edit the html, I mean xml, I mean MXML. So the layout is very powerful. I could easily add smooth transitions and states to that site in about 15 minutes by adding transitions tags. The same thing would have taken a lot longer in Flash. The one main thing you do lose in Flex is the animation timeline. So if you want to do animation with a timeline then you would use Flash. So we come to now. Adobe has two products that output to FP9 player. They both overlap in functionality and you now have two products to choose from. The Flex Builder is not out yet so it's feature set is not set in stone. Remember the Macromedia guys, who btw are very smart blokes, have been in the lab two years scheming like mad scientists to make the best new Flash / web content producing ide out there. The only thing I'm concerned about is if they don't add in the features in Flex we need because it is out of scope of RIA development. This would be a drag. I plan to use Flex 2 for everything on the web. Not just applications. Even if some aspect is a bit more work in Flex I'd rather use it. HTH peace, Judah Adam Pasztory wrote: I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines. Like many other Flash developers, I do both games and animation projects and also RIA projects, so it looks like I'm now going to have to invest two products from now on! This is just one reason why I'm shifting more and more to open source tools. I also feel that Adobe/Macromedia has not done a good job explaining the need for two products, or why I would want to use one or another for a particular project. I mean, a deeper explanation than: Flash is for games and animations; Flex is for Form-based RIAs. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing. You can have anything you want - if you want it badly enough. You can be anything you want to be, do anything you set out to accomplish if you hold to that desire with singleness of purpose. - Abraham Lincoln ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
I have been reading this thread with some interest (occassionally cheering and sometimes getting upset). We are currently using the Beta to build an elearning application so I feel I have some useful insights into the differences between the two. Firstly I don't think the difference is as straight-forward as forms vs animation. Many of the things we build will require a blend. Certainly if I was doing anything with forms I'd much rather be building it in Flex. It is much faster to develop form based things in Flex. There is a level of functionality built into the Flex framework that would take many man hours to reproduce in Flash. On the other side I wouldn't want to do any frame based (as opposed to actionscript based ) animation in Flex. But there is a whole spectrum of things that sit between these two extremes. Anything that could be built using actionscript can be built in Flex and once you get used to the way Flex does things I think they can be built faster and that they will be more reliable. Also you can use your Flash built animations in Flex but I'm not sure how easily you could use your Flex built forms in Flash 9. Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the difference between the two. I can't see how you can say that. There has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost entirely devoted to it. The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation as any developer should need. The only way to really understand the difference is to attempt to build something with it. Someone suggests that Adobe's motivation in creating a seperate IDE is profit. But the framework itself is free. I actually don't like Eclipse myself and have been using a seperate editor for Flex development. I always used to use Sepy for my actionscript. But I still had to use Flash for compiling. Now I can compile from the editor. I think it will depend on your background which style of development you will prefer and I think it's great that Flash (as a platform) can be adapted to suit different needs and is open to Open Source options. I also don't think it's helpful to talk about the difference as designers vs developers. I don't think that Flex Builder is a designer free app. I can easily imagine a workflow where the designer prepares the layout and look of an area and then the developer connects the functionality to it. I think the biggest problem with the introduction of Flex is the learning curve. Flex is a new metaphor for Flash development and there is a lot to get used to. But some of that new knowledge is really about the radical changes in Actionscript 3. That is something that will effect all of us sooner or later as it will be part of Flash 9. It is AS3 rather than Flex that will increase the distance between designers and devlopers. Bill Lane ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
FWIW, IMO, not just forms, but metrics dashboards, shopping sites, and I even saw a really well done interactive e-learning course done with Flex. Well, it all depends on what you mean by forms-based applications. Prior to the web, the term meant something pretty specific - applications built VB-style to run within a windowed, event-driven environment (even if that windowed environment was in DOS!) It has more to do with the development metaphors of windowing and events than anything else. All of the examples you provided could easily be developed within those metaphors. Now of course, on the Web, forms has a much more limited meaning. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
I don't necessarily agree with you here. The Flash IDE *could* have a robust and useful code view that could also be used to build flex apps without ever creating an fla file. That could be used to edit classes and even timeline code, while the traditional Flash IDE view could be used to make fla files, edit timeline animations, etc. I think it *could* be one uber-IDE, as you called it, without necessarily being either more expensive or less reliable. The root of the problem is that it's more profitable to have two IDEs, because one makes developers from other languages happy and one makes the users of previous Flash versions happy, and in the middle is a rather large group of people who will have to pay for both. Making one IDE would only make those in the middle happy, and would require Adobe to rethink a lot of their existing code base instead of simply polishing up the existing code base. More work and less profit doesn't make for a good business model. You've heard the expression good, fast and cheap - pick any two, right? I don't think it would have been possible for Macromedia/Adobe to deliver a good, affordable multipurpose IDE in a reasonable timeframe. It's not just about code view, but rather the whole look/feel/approachability of the IDE. For someone like me - someone who's not a Flash developer - the Flash IDE is somewhat overwhelming, and has a bunch of things in it that don't even make sense from a forms-based application development perspective. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the difference between the two. I can't see how you can say that. There has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost entirely devoted to it. The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation as any developer should need. The only way to really understand the difference is to attempt to build something with it. While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did not find the clear explanations I was hoping for. Maybe that makes me a bad developer. But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as good ones. :) This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved. If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow. Maybe this is all coming after the release. Or maybe it's been added since I looked through the labs site. Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who want to transition to Flex? I want to like Flex. I really do. I'm not trying to attack any Flex developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/Adobe. I'm just sharing my personal observations around it so far. There's enough contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not doing a good enough job getting the message out. The ongoing success of Flash is important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt the need to say this. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
There may have been alpha's betas available for a while, but they've been PC only.. i have to grind that axe every now and then On May 23, 2006, at 9:03 PM, Adam Pasztory wrote: Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the difference between the two. I can't see how you can say that. There has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost entirely devoted to it. The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation as any developer should need. The only way to really understand the difference is to attempt to build something with it. While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did not find the clear explanations I was hoping for. Maybe that makes me a bad developer. But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as good ones. :) This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved. If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow. Maybe this is all coming after the release. Or maybe it's been added since I looked through the labs site. Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who want to transition to Flex? I want to like Flex. I really do. I'm not trying to attack any Flex developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/ Adobe. I'm just sharing my personal observations around it so far. There's enough contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not doing a good enough job getting the message out. The ongoing success of Flash is important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt the need to say this. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
A very reasonable axe it is too. Apologies. Bill Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/24/06 11:10 am There may have been alpha's betas available for a while, but they've been PC only.. i have to grind that axe every now and then ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
We have had Mac builds of the SDKs (compiler, frameworks, etc...) since beta 2. http://www.adobe.com/go/labs_flex2_downloads In fact, I am developing in AS3 and Flex 2 on my Mac right now. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 23, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Michael Bedar wrote: There may have been alpha's betas available for a while, but they've been PC only.. i have to grind that axe every now and then ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
Adam Pasztory wrote: While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did not find the clear explanations I was hoping for. Maybe that makes me a bad developer. But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as good ones. :) This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved. I agree. Not about the bad developer part. About the clear explanations part. I had to actually start using it to see the differences myself. If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow. Maybe this is all coming after the release. Or maybe it's been added since I looked through the labs site. Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who want to transition to Flex? These would be helpful. I think thats exactly what the Flash communtiy needs. Some reviews, side by side comparisons, pros and cons of each type of things. I know this things will come out eventually. I wrote a post recently that has a little bit of comparison for the Flash developer but I don't go into too much detail. Check out these links http://www.judahfrangipane.com/?p=22 and http://www.judahfrangipane.com/?p=20 Judah -- Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing. You can have anything you want - if you want it badly enough. You can be anything you want to be, do anything you set out to accomplish if you hold to that desire with singleness of purpose. - Abraham Lincoln ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness
I already reported that to MM (with very simple and small test cases) Can you share test case? Neh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo Volmaro Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:31 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness Indeed, it´s a buggy flash player behavior. When you mix TextFields with Masks and FX, all goes wrong. It has nothing to do with MTASC. I already reported that to MM (with very simple and small test cases) Maybe in the next update? Or maybe we need to wait for the V9 player. On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:42:35 -0300, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've embedded the font, naturally. I'm getting extremely buggy behavior. Sometimes the textfield will appear partially... only the right half of the textfield, but most of the time, not at all. At one point, I found that removing the dropshadow filter from the textfield, and then adding it back later programmatically helped the problem. But, now that I've added the alpha mask, it doesn't behave right, and it's very slow. The only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with the combination of movies compiled with MTASC versus the Flash IDE. The shell is all code, compiled in MTASC, and it loads in modules created in the Flash IDE. On 5/22/06, Vivek lakhanpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try embedding font for the textfield. Thanks, Vivek On 5/23/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I'm masking a MovieClip with an alpha mask using cacheAsBitmap. The MovieClip has a dynamic text field inside it that I populate at a later time. When I play the movie, the area where the textfield is remains empty. If I drag the corner of the player to resize the movie, the text magically appears. Anyone run into this sort of weird behavior? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- _ Marcelo Volmaro ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
I don't think it's a question good developer vs bad developer. The Flex metaphor was developed to be comfortable to developers coming from a non-Flash background. Most of us were attracted to Flash exactly because it wasn't like those environments. I think you're correct in saying that the existing documentation is written with non-Flash users in mind. Consequently a lot of Flash users may take a while to get it. I'm still struggling with some of the details. But I'm finding more and more situations where I'm asking myself ; is it really that easy. But it's taken me quite a few hours to get to that point. Bill Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/24/06 11:03 am Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the difference between the two. I can't see how you can say that. There has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost entirely devoted to it. The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation as any developer should need. The only way to really understand the difference is to attempt to build something with it. While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did not find the clear explanations I was hoping for. Maybe that makes me a bad developer. But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as good ones. :) This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved. If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow. Maybe this is all coming after the release. Or maybe it's been added since I looked through the labs site. Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who want to transition to Flex? I want to like Flex. I really do. I'm not trying to attack any Flex developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/Adobe. I'm just sharing my personal observations around it so far. There's enough contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not doing a good enough job getting the message out. The ongoing success of Flash is important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt the need to say this. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
If you have tried Flex 2 and can't tell the difference between the 2 IDE's, I don't know what to say.. http://labs.adobe.com/flexproductline/ some video's http://labs.adobe.com/flexproductline/videos/ breeze presentation: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/brz_flex2/ FAQ: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/faq/flex2_faq.html Now, none of the above actually 'compare' both IDE's, but maybe that's because there's no comparing them ;-) Beta 3 comes with a start page similar to the one in Flash and other Adobe products that has a list of sample applications, tutorials etc.. I think they've done a great job regarding documentation and stuff to get you going. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Adam Pasztory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the difference between the two. I can't see how you can say that. There has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost entirely devoted to it. The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation as any developer should need. The only way to really understand the difference is to attempt to build something with it. While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did not find the clear explanations I was hoping for. Maybe that makes me a bad developer. But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as good ones. :) This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved. If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow. Maybe this is all coming after the release. Or maybe it's been added since I looked through the labs site. Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who want to transition to Flex? I want to like Flex. I really do. I'm not trying to attack any Flex developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/Adobe. I'm just sharing my personal observations around it so far. There's enough contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not doing a good enough job getting the message out. The ongoing success of Flash is important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt the need to say this. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
its like trying to compare adobe indesign and illustrator, sure they share a lot of common underlying elements but the usage is much different. If I want to layout a 100 page book i will use indesign... If i want to design a poster with rich graphic elements i will use illustrator Flex is for large scale apps, ease of use with ui components and so on... Flash will be for animations on the ole time line and for doing smaller scale apps that need to be much more visually customised. Theres enough space for all of us to play in! If you have tried Flex 2 and can't tell the difference between the 2 IDE's, I don't know what to say.. http://labs.adobe.com/flexproductline/ some video's http://labs.adobe.com/flexproductline/videos/ breeze presentation: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/brz_flex2/ FAQ: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/faq/flex2_faq.html Now, none of the above actually 'compare' both IDE's, but maybe that's because there's no comparing them ;-) Beta 3 comes with a start page similar to the one in Flash and other Adobe products that has a list of sample applications, tutorials etc.. I think they've done a great job regarding documentation and stuff to get you going. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Adam Pasztory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the difference between the two. I can't see how you can say that. There has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost entirely devoted to it. The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation as any developer should need. The only way to really understand the difference is to attempt to build something with it. While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did not find the clear explanations I was hoping for. Maybe that makes me a bad developer. But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as good ones. :) This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved. If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow. Maybe this is all coming after the release. Or maybe it's been added since I looked through the labs site. Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who want to transition to Flex? I want to like Flex. I really do. I'm not trying to attack any Flex developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/Adobe. I'm just sharing my personal observations around it so far. There's enough contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not doing a good enough job getting the message out. The ongoing success of Flash is important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt the need to say this. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
Hello, Let me try to address a few questions on this thread: If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow. We have an article on this up on the site here that hits just this topic: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flex2_flash.html In addition, one of the best articles on this is now a bit old (since Flex 1.0, 2 years ago), but still worth checking out: The best article on this has been on our site since the release of Flex 1.0, 2 years ago. There are a few points in it that are now out of date, because it certainly predates Flex 2, AS3, the free SDK, the ability to deploy Flex apps without a server. But the core ideas in the article are still excellent and should help: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flash_perspective.html - Metaphors: two cars to get to work? Or a Boat and Car? I don't think either of these metaphors is quite right. But most complex projects bring together teams of people with multiple skills and different tools to achieve an aim. Build a house. The architect will use a cad tool, the carpenter hammer and nails, the interior designer may use photoshop, the painter will brushes, etc etc. For a given task, a carpenter could potentially use a hammer or a screw, but based on experience, preference etc will usually choose one. There is no one answer to how a team should build an RIA, but with Flex and Flash there is now a much richer toolset available to a wider set of people with differing skills who can work together to build these RIAs (and others on the team will use Photoshop, or AfterEffects, or a Java IDE, or PHP, or or or). If we are right that this RIA idea is a fundamental trend, having multiple metaphors that let more people design and build them is a good thing. Look at building Windows apps--you can use C, C++, MFC, Visual Basic, Flash Projectors, etc. To build HTML Web Apps you might use all or a mix of Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Photoshop, JSP, ASP, CF. Etc. In some cases one person spans all of these roles and tools and does it all, but more and more teams of people build these and bring different experiences and skills to the project, and need different tools and metaphors to contribute. - Flash for animation and Flex for Forms? I think this is a bit too simple. Certainly at the extremes it is a relatively valid segmentation, but Flash can be used for Forms and Flex can be used for animation. For us, the ideal is to enable teams of people that bring the media, animation, interaction design skills that proliferate in the Flash community with the coding/architecture skills that comes from Computer Science backgrounds (not that these are mutually exclusely) together to build apps the are both media rich and data rich, that are both beautiful and transactional, that include forms and visualization, that integrate with with back end systems from FMS to JMS to WebServices, that scale and are maintainable. We have a lot more work to do, but our aim is to enable seamless workflow for designers and developers to work together more closely and iteratively to build rich experiences. As we release Blaze and we have AS3 in both Flash and Flex, it will become easier still to integrate the two, and you will see more and more focus on workflow over time. For folks who thing Flex is just for forms, check out: http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/ (built with Flex 1.5) http://www.harley-davidson.com/pr/gm/customizer/launchCustomizer.asp (Built with Flex 1.0) And take a look at how expressive Flex components can be at Ely's blog: http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/animated-dragtile-compone nt/ and http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/fisheye-component/ (requires Flash Player 9 beta 3). Should we have built a single Uber tool instead? We sorta tried. For a while there we tried to make Flash MX all things to all people. We found we were not satisfying the designers and animators and we still had not reached the bar for acceptence by most developers. Focus matters a lot. A product can't have two design centers, two souls. In 1996 Director was the world's leading multimedia authoring tool and Shockwave was doing incredibly on the Web. But we looked at the total opportunity and decided to both start Dreamweaver and focus deeply on the needs of professional web designers doing HTML as well as aquire FutureSplash, now Flash. While we had added web export (Shockwave) to Director, we knew that it couldn't compete (for some uses) with a product like Flash that was designed from the ground up differently, and far more lightweight. In fact, back then, I was running the FreeHand product line at Macromedia (among other things)--should we have said, why add another vector graphics tool to our product line, lets just add a timeline to
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
Hello, I just saw that this month's Edge newsletter has an article on this topic too: http://www.adobe.com/newsletters/edge/may2006/section2.html And it points to a relevent User Group presentation on the topic of Flex for Flash Developers: http://mmusergroup.breezecentral.com/p95561356/ Regards, David Adobe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mendels Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:28 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE Hello, Let me try to address a few questions on this thread: If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow. We have an article on this up on the site here that hits just this topic: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flex2_flash.html In addition, one of the best articles on this is now a bit old (since Flex 1.0, 2 years ago), but still worth checking out: The best article on this has been on our site since the release of Flex 1.0, 2 years ago. There are a few points in it that are now out of date, because it certainly predates Flex 2, AS3, the free SDK, the ability to deploy Flex apps without a server. But the core ideas in the article are still excellent and should help: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flash_perspective.html - Metaphors: two cars to get to work? Or a Boat and Car? I don't think either of these metaphors is quite right. But most complex projects bring together teams of people with multiple skills and different tools to achieve an aim. Build a house. The architect will use a cad tool, the carpenter hammer and nails, the interior designer may use photoshop, the painter will brushes, etc etc. For a given task, a carpenter could potentially use a hammer or a screw, but based on experience, preference etc will usually choose one. There is no one answer to how a team should build an RIA, but with Flex and Flash there is now a much richer toolset available to a wider set of people with differing skills who can work together to build these RIAs (and others on the team will use Photoshop, or AfterEffects, or a Java IDE, or PHP, or or or). If we are right that this RIA idea is a fundamental trend, having multiple metaphors that let more people design and build them is a good thing. Look at building Windows apps--you can use C, C++, MFC, Visual Basic, Flash Projectors, etc. To build HTML Web Apps you might use all or a mix of Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Photoshop, JSP, ASP, CF. Etc. In some cases one person spans all of these roles and tools and does it all, but more and more teams of people build these and bring different experiences and skills to the project, and need different tools and metaphors to contribute. - Flash for animation and Flex for Forms? I think this is a bit too simple. Certainly at the extremes it is a relatively valid segmentation, but Flash can be used for Forms and Flex can be used for animation. For us, the ideal is to enable teams of people that bring the media, animation, interaction design skills that proliferate in the Flash community with the coding/architecture skills that comes from Computer Science backgrounds (not that these are mutually exclusely) together to build apps the are both media rich and data rich, that are both beautiful and transactional, that include forms and visualization, that integrate with with back end systems from FMS to JMS to WebServices, that scale and are maintainable. We have a lot more work to do, but our aim is to enable seamless workflow for designers and developers to work together more closely and iteratively to build rich experiences. As we release Blaze and we have AS3 in both Flash and Flex, it will become easier still to integrate the two, and you will see more and more focus on workflow over time. For folks who thing Flex is just for forms, check out: http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/ (built with Flex 1.5) http://www.harley-davidson.com/pr/gm/customizer/launchCustomizer.asp (Built with Flex 1.0) And take a look at how expressive Flex components can be at Ely's blog: http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/animated-dragti le-compone nt/ and http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/fisheye-component/ (requires Flash Player 9 beta 3). Should we have built a single Uber tool instead? We sorta tried. For a while there we tried to make Flash MX all things to all people. We found we were not satisfying the designers and animators and we still had not reached the bar for acceptence by most developers. Focus matters a lot. A product can't have two design centers, two souls. In 1996 Director was the
[Flashcoders] Overflowing dynamic text fields
Hi, Was wondering if anyone has tried tis defore. Most of the magazine layouts are multi-column. LIke two column vertical or three column vertical. Is there a way in Flash to create two vertical dynamic text fields and get content from external file and when the text reaches the end of the first box, it gets cropped and overflows to the secont text field. Looking for some hints to achieve this. Thanks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com