[Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH

2006-05-23 Thread julian atienza

I'm using basic XPATH4AS2 of XFactor Studio.

I have an XPATH Query like:

var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad
[contains(label, '')];

And it's Ok. Search for '' into the field 'label' and founds
several results.

I have seen into class code that there is an upper-case function that
i can use to make more useful searchs...

i tried:
var strXPATH:String =
//Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label],
mySearchTerm.toUpperCase ())];

NO RESULTS...

somebody knows how to use the upper-case function in the example?

I'm implementing in Flash 8 Pro and AS2.0.

Thanks in advance
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RE: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH

2006-05-23 Thread Bernard Visscher
var  mySearchTerm:String = HeLlO;
var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label],'
+  mySearchTerm.toUpperCase () + ')];

This maybe?

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens 
 julian atienza
 Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2006 10:06
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
 flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Onderwerp: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH
 
 I'm using basic XPATH4AS2 of XFactor Studio.
 
 I have an XPATH Query like:
 
 var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad 
 [contains(label, '')];
 
 And it's Ok. Search for '' into the field 'label' and 
 founds several results.
 
 I have seen into class code that there is an upper-case 
 function that i can use to make more useful searchs...
 
 i tried:
 var strXPATH:String =
 //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label],
 mySearchTerm.toUpperCase ())];
 
 NO RESULTS...
 
 somebody knows how to use the upper-case function in the example?
 
 I'm implementing in Flash 8 Pro and AS2.0.
 
 Thanks in advance
 

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Re: [Flashcoders] I need your support

2006-05-23 Thread Joeri van Oostveen

I can confirm that this solution does _not_ work on Safari...

Let me know it I need to test something :), as we are looking forward
to a back/history solution for flash sites.

greetings
Joeri

On 5/22/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've written an external interface solution for back/forward/bookmark
functionality. Before I use it, I'd really appreciate it if you guys could
help me get some information on the different browsers it works with.

http://anticipatechange.com/pierinc/browserSupport/

So far I've tested Firefox and IE, I think though that I will have to use
the IE solution for other (safari i think?) popular agents.

Thank you!

M.
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[Flashcoders] Tufat.com Datagrid

2006-05-23 Thread franto

Hey,

I need datagrid where can i change row height for each row, height can vary
for each row.
I just found Tufat's datagrid for 5 USD, but today his site doesnt work for
me

http://www.tufat.com/datagrid.php

is that site working, does someone knows, where can i get this component, or
similar (i have to have possibility change height for each row) ?
I need it ASAP, today is best, for my customer

Thanks for advices



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Re: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH

2006-05-23 Thread Joeri van Oostveen

In a recent project, I used the Macromedia implementation of XPath
instead of the Xfactor XPath.
I can't say which one is better (or faster)...
Although I did have to double check everything because of some small
(syntax) differences..

See the documentation:
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/documentation/en/flash/fl8/XpathAPI.pdf

I didn't miss any functionality not present in one of the
implementations, but that could be because I just do simple extraction
of the xml nodes.

greetings
Joeri

On 5/23/06, Bernard Visscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

var  mySearchTerm:String = HeLlO;
var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label],'
+  mySearchTerm.toUpperCase () + ')];

This maybe?

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens
 julian atienza
 Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2006 10:06
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Onderwerp: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH

 I'm using basic XPATH4AS2 of XFactor Studio.

 I have an XPATH Query like:

 var strXPATH:String = //Localidades/Localidad
 [contains(label, '')];

 And it's Ok. Search for '' into the field 'label' and
 founds several results.

 I have seen into class code that there is an upper-case
 function that i can use to make more useful searchs...

 i tried:
 var strXPATH:String =
 //Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case[label],
 mySearchTerm.toUpperCase ())];

 NO RESULTS...

 somebody knows how to use the upper-case function in the example?

 I'm implementing in Flash 8 Pro and AS2.0.

 Thanks in advance


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[Flashcoders] Flash Remoting onStatus in Flash Player 8

2006-05-23 Thread Rui Duarte Silva
Hi,

I'm having a strange problem that only occurs in Flash Player 8 and above.
Apparently when I publish to Player 8, my Connection.onStatus ceases to
function correctly. The method is still called, but the status information
(normally passed as a Object) is undefined.

Any ideas on this?

Thanks,

Rui Duarte Silva

Senior Flash Developer / User Experience Developer
MNI - ALERT

www.alert-online.com


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Re: [Flashcoders] Slides and Screens - Help, please

2006-05-23 Thread Ron Wheeler

Google Flash Slideshow.
You will find all kinds of code and tips.

You may find that people in this forum are more inclined to get involved 
when you have a more particular problem with some code that you are 
debugging. How do I write code... is not a promising start to a question.


If you look at one of the many examples already written, you will find 
it easy to get started and then we can be of more help.


Ron

Loren R. Elks wrote:

I am beginning to work with screens and slides.  I understand how to load 
external swfs into my slides or screens.
 
Here's the question:  How do I write code such that when my external swf that is loaded into the current slide or screen finishes playing, the application will automatically move to the next slide (or another slide or screen)?
 
 
 
Sincerely,
 
Loren 
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[Flashcoders] domain name

2006-05-23 Thread Laurent CUCHET
I try to find a page and determine if www are there
I have to write all the time the website name.

Is there a way to know if www is in Name ??
Thank you

domainname = new LocalConnection();
trace(domainname.domain());
this.dm.text = domainname.domain();
if (this.dm.text == www.webpage.com) {
#include flash_AS_detection.as
} else {
getURL(http://www.webpage.com;, _parent);
}



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Re: [Flashcoders] domain name

2006-05-23 Thread flashcoders
You cannot include an as file in run-time. This is done by the compiler when
you publish your swf file.

When you want to check the existence of a substring in some string (like a
domain name) you can use the string functions in actionscript.
Like the split function...

var domain_str:String = www.somedomain.com;
var split_arr:Array = domain_str.split (.);
/*
* split_arr is now an array [www,somedomain,com]
if (split_arr[0] == www) {
 trace (got www);
} else {
 trace (no www here);
}


But i'm not sure this is what you mean!

Simon


Citeren Laurent CUCHET [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I try to find a page and determine if www are there
 I have to write all the time the website name.

 Is there a way to know if www is in Name ??
 Thank you

 domainname = new LocalConnection();
 trace(domainname.domain());
 this.dm.text = domainname.domain();
 if (this.dm.text == www.webpage.com) {
 #include flash_AS_detection.as
 } else {
 getURL(http://www.webpage.com;, _parent);
 }



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Re: [Flashcoders] domain name

2006-05-23 Thread Zimmen
You cannot include an as file in run-time. This is done by the compiler when 
you publish your swf file.


When you want to check the existence of a substring in some string (like a 
domain name) you can use the string functions in actionscript.

Like the split function...

var domain_str:String = www.somedomain.com;
var split_arr:Array = domain_str.split (.);
/*
* split_arr is now an array [www,somedomain,com]
if (split_arr[0] == www) {
trace (got www);
} else {
trace (no www here);
}


But i'm not sure this is what you mean!

Simon

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:16 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders]  domain name



I try to find a page and determine if www are there
I have to write all the time the website name.

Is there a way to know if www is in Name ??
Thank you

domainname = new LocalConnection();
trace(domainname.domain());
this.dm.text = domainname.domain();
if (this.dm.text == www.webpage.com) {
   #include flash_AS_detection.as
} else {
   getURL(http://www.webpage.com;, _parent);
}



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[Flashcoders] [Q] Multipurpose Media Player with FLV/SWF/JPEG???

2006-05-23 Thread Jason

Howdy...  :)

Okay...  Now I need to find or create a multi-purpose media play that can
read a playlist that tells me what sorts of files that need to be played and
it should support at least FLV(progressive for now but not limited
to)/SWF/JPEG file formats...

I've done some googling last night but I was not able to find anything that
can do that...  It sorta surprised me...   The technology has been out there
for a while and there was no product that I was able to find it...  What
would be the reason for that???  Is is something that is not possible or is
is something that won't make much money???

Anyways...  Did anybody ever seen one or built one before and would like
share some thoughts on this???  ;)

Have a nice day!!!  :)

Jason 



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Re: [Flashcoders] I need your support

2006-05-23 Thread Ujjwal Kabra

It does not work with Opera either.

Personally, I think that the IE solution will work only on IE, and you
should be using the firefox solution, or something very similar to it,
for all other browsers.

Ujjwal Kabra

On 5/23/06, Joeri van Oostveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I can confirm that this solution does _not_ work on Safari...

Let me know it I need to test something :), as we are looking forward
to a back/history solution for flash sites.

greetings
Joeri

On 5/22/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've written an external interface solution for back/forward/bookmark
 functionality. Before I use it, I'd really appreciate it if you guys could
 help me get some information on the different browsers it works with.

 http://anticipatechange.com/pierinc/browserSupport/

 So far I've tested Firefox and IE, I think though that I will have to use
 the IE solution for other (safari i think?) popular agents.

 Thank you!

 M.
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RE: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
In a recent project, I used the Macromedia implementation of XPath
instead of the Xfactor XPath.

If I could jump in with a side question, I thought I had heard something
about that - can that be published down to the Flash 7 player? I would
assume so if it's just As 2.0 classes, but just thought I would check.


Jason Merrill
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Technology Solutions
 
 
 
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[Flashcoders] Sound.position inaccuracy

2006-05-23 Thread eric dolecki

If i load up an mp3 file, i can get its duration  sound position no
problem... however while playing, if i load another mp3 to replace the 1st
mp3, the duration changes correctly - but the .position picks up from the
previous mp3... even when the mp3 is started at 0 ms!

Does the sound object need a frame or two or somethign to properly clean up
and produce an accurate .position value? Seems a bit buggy...

- e.dolecki
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Re: [Flashcoders] ObjectEncoding for LocalConnection

2006-05-23 Thread John Grden

It works now ;)

The main issue was simple:  the argument I specified in the receiving method
was incorrect.  As soon as I cleared that up, I was receiving log events.

thanks again for your files and help Muz,

JG

On 5/22/06, Muzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just tried it again in beta 3 and works fine.
Uploaded the sample:
http://www.muzakdeezign.com/flex2/localconn.zip

Note however that I'm sending *from flex to flash*
You're looking for the opposite right?
Haven't tried that yet, but should work just the same (AFAIK).

regards,
Muzak

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Yeah that's exactly it, trying to get Flex front end to communicate with
Xray connector in flash 8 swf.

Right now, I set up a simple LC in a basic Flex front end that has a
method
for listening for trace statements and while it connects just fine,
nothing
is received on the method defined.  I assume since LC uses AMF that it'd
have to be set to AMF0 for the communication to work.

Maybe I'm missing something simple, but I've tripple checked things like
*when* the connection is made in relation to when the object is
instantiated
(hence the custom method being available before connecting).  Any tricks
you
used when you did it?

THanks again Muz,

JG



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[Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread John Grden

what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion?

Thanks for the help,

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Jim Robson
Flexcoders:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders


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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:12 AM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list

what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion?

Thanks for the help,

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
The one on yahoo groups - Flexcoders 


Jason Merrill
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Technology Solutions
 
 
 

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Grden
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list

what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion?

Thanks for the help,

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Daniel Cascais

Flexcoders
www.flexcoders.org

On 5/23/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion?

Thanks for the help,

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Stealth mission John?  Don't get caught, mind.  May the force be with
ya!

Lee



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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

Flexcoders:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders


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Grden
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex list

what's the main list people are using for Flex discussion?

Thanks for the help,

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Re: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness

2006-05-23 Thread Rifled Cloaca

I've embedded the font, naturally.  I'm getting extremely buggy behavior.
Sometimes the textfield will appear partially... only the right half of the
textfield, but most of the time, not at all.

At one point, I found that removing the dropshadow filter from the
textfield, and then adding it back later programmatically helped the
problem.  But, now that I've added the alpha mask, it doesn't behave right,
and it's very slow.

The only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with the
combination of movies compiled with MTASC versus the Flash IDE.  The shell
is all code, compiled in MTASC, and it loads in modules created in the Flash
IDE.



On 5/22/06, Vivek lakhanpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Try embedding font for the textfield.

Thanks,
Vivek

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 All,

 I'm masking a MovieClip with an alpha mask using cacheAsBitmap.  The
 MovieClip has a dynamic text field inside it that I populate at a later
 time.  When I play the movie, the area where the textfield is remains
 empty.  If I drag the corner of the player to resize the movie, the text
 magically appears.  Anyone run into this sort of weird behavior?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa

Thanks for the tip, already signed up!

- Marcelo.

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excellent,  thanks!

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 Flexcoders
 www.flexcoders.org

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread John Grden

ha!  I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;)  So far so good!

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Stealth mission John?  Don't get caught, mind.  May the force be with
ya!

Lee



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Flexcoders:
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst.  Attack!!!

;-)

Lee



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ha!  I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;)  So far so good!

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 Stealth mission John?  Don't get caught, mind.  May the force be with
 ya!

 Lee



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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread John Grden

lol, you're starting to scare me :)

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Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst.  Attack!!!

;-)

Lee



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ha!  I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;)  So far so good!

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 Stealth mission John?  Don't get caught, mind.  May the force be with
 ya!

 Lee



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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Yeah, I get that from time to time.

Lee



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lol, you're starting to scare me :)

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 Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst.
Attack!!!

 ;-)

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 ha!  I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;)  So far so good!

 On 5/23/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Stealth mission John?  Don't get caught, mind.  May the force be
with
  ya!
 
  Lee
 
 
 
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  Flexcoders:
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Nicolas Cannasse
Lee sometimes become violent when he hear about Flex. Try to speak to 
him about haXe to calm him down :)




lol, you're starting to scare me :)

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Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst.  Attack!!!

;-)

Lee



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ha!  I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;)  So far so good!

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 Stealth mission John?  Don't get caught, mind.  May the force be with
 ya!

 Lee



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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst.
Attack!!!

It's still Flash ;)


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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Er, I think I'm starting to build a bit of a reputation.  Who else has
been following my coding/political endeavours?  Hehe

Lee



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Lee sometimes become violent when he hear about Flex. Try to speak to 
him about haXe to calm him down :)


 lol, you're starting to scare me :)
 
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Attack!!!

 ;-)

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 ha!  I'm converting the Xray interface to Flex2 ;)  So far so good!

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wrote:
 
  Stealth mission John?  Don't get caught, mind.  May the force be
with
  ya!
 
  Lee
 
 
 
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  Flexcoders:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders
 
 
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex list

2006-05-23 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
I know, but I used to get annoyed at Macr, and have always quite
detested Adobe... I kinda feel like the product line has become tainted.

Besides, what's wrong with Laszlo?

Lee

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Aaarrrggg A traitor in our midst.
Attack!!!

It's still Flash ;)


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RE: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH

2006-05-23 Thread julian atienza

:(

Sorry. About replies...

1) Bernard Visscher. I posted the sentence bad. I didn't toUpperCase
like literal.

take this literal example if u prefer:
var strXPATH:String =
//Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case(fichaLocalidad),' +
TESTING PHRASE + ')];

But no good results anyway...

2)Joeri van Oostveen. Macromedia implementation of XPath have less
functions and functionally. That's because
I'm using XFactor Studio implementation. No contains function. f.e.

3)Merrill, Jason. I didn't understood your mssage.

Thanks anyway :(

Nobody knows the upper-case of XPATH for Xfactor Studio and how can i
use it Thanks
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[Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Kevin Newman

Hello all,

So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys 
prefer, and why?


I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But 
I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-)


Thanks,

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Doug Coning
Diddo! I'd love to hear some discussion on this...

Doug Coning 
Senior Web Development Programmer
FORUM Solutions, LLC
 
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 So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you
guys
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 I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing.
But
 I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-)
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness

2006-05-23 Thread Marcelo Volmaro

Indeed, it´s a buggy flash player behavior.
When you mix TextFields with Masks and FX, all goes wrong. It has nothing  
to do with MTASC.

I already reported that to MM (with very simple and small test cases)

Maybe in the next update? Or maybe we need to wait for the V9 player.


On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:42:35 -0300, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



I've embedded the font, naturally.  I'm getting extremely buggy behavior.
Sometimes the textfield will appear partially... only the right half of  
the

textfield, but most of the time, not at all.

At one point, I found that removing the dropshadow filter from the
textfield, and then adding it back later programmatically helped the
problem.  But, now that I've added the alpha mask, it doesn't behave  
right,

and it's very slow.

The only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with the
combination of movies compiled with MTASC versus the Flash IDE.  The  
shell
is all code, compiled in MTASC, and it loads in modules created in the  
Flash

IDE.



On 5/22/06, Vivek lakhanpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Try embedding font for the textfield.

Thanks,
Vivek

On 5/23/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All,

 I'm masking a MovieClip with an alpha mask using cacheAsBitmap.  The
 MovieClip has a dynamic text field inside it that I populate at a  
later

 time.  When I play the movie, the area where the textfield is remains
 empty.  If I drag the corner of the player to resize the movie, the  
text

 magically appears.  Anyone run into this sort of weird behavior?
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Re: [Flashcoders] I need your support

2006-05-23 Thread elibol

Hmm, I am told that it probably cannot be done in Safari Joeri, but let
there be hope, I will be in deep thought concering this problem. The IE
solution is used when IE is detected, so the firefox solution is what's used
rather by default. In spite of this I was expecting it to work in Opera.
Luckily, I can grab the windows compilation for Opera for debugging...

Joeri I have a question for you, does the external interface initialize with
Safari? Check for ExternalInterface.available? true/false in the test swf.

Thank you for the support guys,

M.

On 5/23/06, Ujjwal Kabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It does not work with Opera either.

Personally, I think that the IE solution will work only on IE, and you
should be using the firefox solution, or something very similar to it,
for all other browsers.

Ujjwal Kabra

On 5/23/06, Joeri van Oostveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can confirm that this solution does _not_ work on Safari...

 Let me know it I need to test something :), as we are looking forward
 to a back/history solution for flash sites.

 greetings
 Joeri

 On 5/22/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've written an external interface solution for back/forward/bookmark
  functionality. Before I use it, I'd really appreciate it if you guys
could
  help me get some information on the different browsers it works with.
 
  http://anticipatechange.com/pierinc/browserSupport/
 
  So far I've tested Firefox and IE, I think though that I will have to
use
  the IE solution for other (safari i think?) popular agents.
 
  Thank you!
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Llobrera
Julian-

I found out a few weeks ago that the Xfactor Studio XPATH classes were
broken when compiling to Flash 8. Compiling to flash 6 and 7 was ok, but not
8.

-Mark

On 5/23/06 11:23 AM, julian atienza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 :(

Sorry. About replies...

1) Bernard Visscher. I posted the sentence bad. I
 didn't toUpperCase
like literal.

take this literal example if u prefer:
  var
 strXPATH:String 
 =
//Localidades/Localidad[contains(upper-case(fichaLocalidad),' +
TESTING
 PHRASE + ')];

But no good results anyway...
  
2)Joeri van Oostveen.
 Macromedia implementation of XPath have less
functions and functionally.
 That's because
I'm using XFactor Studio implementation. No contains
 function. f.e.

3)Merrill, Jason. I didn't understood your mssage.

Thanks
 anyway :(

Nobody knows the upper-case of XPATH for Xfactor Studio and how can
 i
use it Thanks

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Re: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness

2006-05-23 Thread Rifled Cloaca

Yeah, I was sure MTASC was fine... I was more thinking it was the
combination of the two.  Thanks for the info.  The entire system I am
building is based on Masking text (a signage system), so this is a real
problem.  I guess i'll have to wait on using filters.

Thanks again,
-g


On 5/23/06, Marcelo Volmaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Indeed, it´s a buggy flash player behavior.
When you mix TextFields with Masks and FX, all goes wrong. It has nothing
to do with MTASC.
I already reported that to MM (with very simple and small test cases)

Maybe in the next update? Or maybe we need to wait for the V9 player.


On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:42:35 -0300, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I've embedded the font, naturally.  I'm getting extremely buggy
behavior.
 Sometimes the textfield will appear partially... only the right half of
 the
 textfield, but most of the time, not at all.

 At one point, I found that removing the dropshadow filter from the
 textfield, and then adding it back later programmatically helped the
 problem.  But, now that I've added the alpha mask, it doesn't behave
 right,
 and it's very slow.

 The only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with the
 combination of movies compiled with MTASC versus the Flash IDE.  The
 shell
 is all code, compiled in MTASC, and it loads in modules created in the
 Flash
 IDE.



 On 5/22/06, Vivek lakhanpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try embedding font for the textfield.

 Thanks,
 Vivek

 On 5/23/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  All,
 
  I'm masking a MovieClip with an alpha mask using cacheAsBitmap.  The
  MovieClip has a dynamic text field inside it that I populate at a
 later
  time.  When I play the movie, the area where the textfield is remains
  empty.  If I drag the corner of the player to resize the movie, the
 text
  magically appears.  Anyone run into this sort of weird behavior?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread John Grden

well my initial response is: Depends on who you're talking to.

I'm completely stoked about Flex2 builder in that building
applications/forms etc is what it's suited for.  So, when dealing with these
type of projects its by far the choice IMHO.

But I don't know how you compare it to the Flash IDE.  I mean, the other
half of my projects are experience sites (marketing sites) where there's
alot of triditional animation and assets being used.  In that scenario,
Flash IDE is, as of right now, ideal.  You really can't compare it as far as
I can tell right now.

If you're strictly talking about form/application developement, yeah Flex
rocks \m/ and certainly seems to address many of the voodoo areas that you'd
experience with building the same apps in Flash IDE.

then again, take what I'm saying with the knowledge that I've just started
seriously working with Flex2 and I *live* in the IDE/FlashDevelop otherwise.

hth,

JG

On 5/23/06, Doug Coning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Diddo! I'd love to hear some discussion on this...

Doug Coning
Senior Web Development Programmer
FORUM Solutions, LLC

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 Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

 Hello all,

 So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you
guys
 prefer, and why?

 I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing.
But
 I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-)

 Thanks,

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
It' more dependent on what kind of project you are building.  Flex would
not be good for an animated cartoon or highly customized sites.  It
takes much longer to build a business RIA in Flash... Etc.


Jason Merrill
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Technology Solutions
 
 
 

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Newman
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:10 AM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

Hello all,

So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys
prefer, and why?

I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But
I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-)

Thanks,

Kevin N.

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RE: [Flashcoders] help: XfactorStudio XPATH

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
I found out a few weeks ago that the Xfactor Studio XPATH classes were
broken when compiling to Flash 8. Compiling to flash 6 and 7 was ok, but
not 8.

Works just for me.  Are you using an older version of the classes?


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Re: [Flashcoders] How to disable button if MC is loaded

2006-05-23 Thread Gerry Creighton

Add this...
this.enabled = false;
to your onRelease code. You'll also need additional code to set that  
to enabled = true;

if another button is clicked.

Gerry

On May 23, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Tony Watkins wrote:

Ok, take a look at my scribble. Notice that onRelease, the about  
button
loads resources/about.swf. Great, but if resources/about.swf is  
already

loaded and you release the button, about.swf loads all over again. If
about.swf is already loaded I would like the about button to ignore
onRelease – or something like that.


mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOver = function() {
this.gotoAndPlay(2);
};
mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOut = function() {
this.gotoAndPlay(_totalframes-_currentframe);
};
mainMenu.menu01.about.onRelease = function() {
this._parent._parent._parent.grassAni01.gotoAndPlay(playOut);
this._parent._parent._parent.workingHereAni01.gotoAndPlay 
(playOut);

this._parent._parent._parent.nurses.gotoAndPlay(playOut);
this._parent._parent._parent.about.loadMovie(resources/ 
about.swf, 1);

};

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[Flashcoders] IFrames in flex

2006-05-23 Thread Manuel Saint-Victor

http://au.sys-con.com/read/223822.htm
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RE: [Flashcoders] How to disable button if MC is loaded

2006-05-23 Thread Lewis, Chuck
Set a true/false flag or test if the about.swf is visible

this._parent._parent._parent   wooo

-- Chuck

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Subject: [Flashcoders] How to disable button if MC is loaded

Ok, take a look at my scribble. Notice that onRelease, the about button
loads resources/about.swf. Great, but if resources/about.swf is
already
loaded and you release the button, about.swf loads all over again. If
about.swf is already loaded I would like the about button to ignore
onRelease - or something like that.


mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOver = function() {
this.gotoAndPlay(2);
};
mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOut = function() {
this.gotoAndPlay(_totalframes-_currentframe);
};
mainMenu.menu01.about.onRelease = function() {
this._parent._parent._parent.grassAni01.gotoAndPlay(playOut);
 
this._parent._parent._parent.workingHereAni01.gotoAndPlay(playOut);
this._parent._parent._parent.nurses.gotoAndPlay(playOut);
this._parent._parent._parent.about.loadMovie(resources/about.swf,
1);
};

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Jorge Antonio Diaz Gutierrez
Hi Kevin

I'm not an expert but Maybe I could add an idea. Flex is for a huge and 
serious applications development based on Flash Player. Flash is for a fully 
creative environment and very cool in terms of design and animation (that's 
why I said Serious on Flex, I don't mean better whit it), that can do almost 
all that Flex does, but there's lot of work between them. Flex is in days what 
Flash could be In Months, in terms of Application Development.

You can see some examples of Flex and Flash Sites at www.adobe.com. Don't 
worry. You'll see the difference yourself.

Bye

Jorge A. Díaz Gutiérrez

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Asunto: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

It' more dependent on what kind of project you are building.  Flex would
not be good for an animated cartoon or highly customized sites.  It
takes much longer to build a business RIA in Flash... Etc.


Jason Merrill
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Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

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So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys
prefer, and why?

I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But
I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-)

Thanks,

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Muzak
Personally I think a far more important question is how (well) Flex and Flash 
will work together, because now we'll have 2 IDE's to 
work with.

For a long time there have been 2 (or more) type of Flash users: developers and 
designers. And with each new (Flash) version the gap 
between the 2 became bigger. Now with the release of Flex2 both type of users 
will be able to focus better on what they're good at, 
working with an IDE they feel comfortable with.

Maybe one downside for certain developers will be that we'll have to own/use 
both. I'm thinking of freelancers like myself.

regards,
Muzak

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 Hello all,

 So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys 
 prefer, and why?

 I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But I'd 
 love to hear some opinions from this list. :-)

 Thanks,

 Kevin N.



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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread jcanistrum

and someone have experienced the openlaszlo to give some advice about it ?

it promises the same as Flex, plus outputs in SWF and DHTML, but it is free
and OpenSource.  www.openlaszlo.org

and to get more people in trouble ( just to decide about -)  there is haXe,
www.haxe.org  also free, also generating for javascript and swf and AS 3.0,
if I´m not wrong.

I´m note sure like people are going to cope with so many options -)

JoĂ£o Carlos
2006/5/23, Muzak [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Personally I think a far more important question is how (well) Flex and
Flash will work together, because now we'll have 2 IDE's to
work with.

For a long time there have been 2 (or more) type of Flash users:
developers and designers. And with each new (Flash) version the gap
between the 2 became bigger. Now with the release of Flex2 both type of
users will be able to focus better on what they're good at,
working with an IDE they feel comfortable with.

Maybe one downside for certain developers will be that we'll have to
own/use both. I'm thinking of freelancers like myself.

regards,
Muzak

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 So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you guys
prefer, and why?

 I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing. But
I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-)

 Thanks,

 Kevin N.



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Re: [Flashcoders] How to disable button if MC is loaded

2006-05-23 Thread Gerry Creighton

Tony,
This is how I do it... this example is code for the About button on  
the root timeline.

code
aboutBut.onPress = function() {
if (_global.currentBtn == this) {
this.enabled = false;
} else {
curMC = _global.currentBtn;
curMC.enabled = true;
curMC.onRollOut(); //sets the rollover effect back to a static 
mode
}
};
aboutBut.onRelease = function() {
_global.currentBtn = this;
this.enabled = false;
	sectLoadSeq(about.swf); //a function to load the section which  
does other stuff...including setting the button
   // clicked to the rollOver state to signify the current  
section selected.

};
/code

Gerry

 
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On May 23, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Tony Watkins wrote:

Ok, take a look at my scribble. Notice that onRelease, the about  
button
loads resources/about.swf. Great, but if resources/about.swf is  
already

loaded and you release the button, about.swf loads all over again. If
about.swf is already loaded I would like the about button to ignore
onRelease – or something like that.


mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOver = function() {
this.gotoAndPlay(2);
};
mainMenu.menu01.about.onRollOut = function() {
this.gotoAndPlay(_totalframes-_currentframe);
};
mainMenu.menu01.about.onRelease = function() {
this._parent._parent._parent.grassAni01.gotoAndPlay(playOut);
this._parent._parent._parent.workingHereAni01.gotoAndPlay 
(playOut);

this._parent._parent._parent.nurses.gotoAndPlay(playOut);
this._parent._parent._parent.about.loadMovie(resources/ 
about.swf, 1);

};

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Doug Coning
I was looking at the components that make up the Flex environment and
noticed that Charting is now a separate component.  The promo mentions
that charting will work seamlessly with Flex Data Services.  

Does this mean that it won't work with Web Services?  Do you have to use
the Data Services to use charts?

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muzak
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:10 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
 
 Personally I think a far more important question is how (well) Flex
and
 Flash will work together, because now we'll have 2 IDE's to
 work with.
 
 For a long time there have been 2 (or more) type of Flash users:
 developers and designers. And with each new (Flash) version the gap
 between the 2 became bigger. Now with the release of Flex2 both type
of
 users will be able to focus better on what they're good at,
 working with an IDE they feel comfortable with.
 
 Maybe one downside for certain developers will be that we'll have to
 own/use both. I'm thinking of freelancers like myself.
 
 regards,
 Muzak
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:09 PM
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE
 
 
  Hello all,
 
  So what are the opinions regarding Flex vs. Flash IDE? Which do you
guys
 prefer, and why?
 
  I've been looking into Flex 2.0, and so far I like what I'm seeing.
But
 I'd love to hear some opinions from this list. :-)
 
  Thanks,
 
  Kevin N.
 
 
 
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[Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

2006-05-23 Thread Fitzpatrick, Kevin
Hey all,

A question regarding frame labels. When using the
gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the
string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20)
it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead
to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *.

Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it
that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a
number.

Sorry if that was a bit confusing.

Thanks,
Kevin

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[Flashcoders] gafette

2006-05-23 Thread Juan Anzaldo
I need to take a Person Picture, crop the face an put
it in a gaffete to print, I want to use flash, how can
I do that? 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Adam Pasztory

I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines.  Like
many other Flash developers, I do both games and animation projects and also
RIA projects, so it looks like I'm now going to have to invest two products
from now on!  This is just one reason why I'm shifting more and more to open
source tools.

I also feel that Adobe/Macromedia has not done a good job explaining the
need for two products, or why I would want to use one or another for a
particular project.  I mean, a deeper explanation than: Flash is for games
and animations; Flex is for Form-based RIAs.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
 I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines. 

Imagine if everyone had complained to Henry Ford about the same thing.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Dave Watts
 I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product 
 lines. Like many other Flash developers, I do both games and 
 animation projects and also RIA projects, so it looks like 
 I'm now going to have to invest two products from now on!  
 This is just one reason why I'm shifting more and more to 
 open source tools.

The IDE isn't being split. There are (and have been) two separate IDEs to do
two separate (and quite different) things. Up until now, one of those IDEs
(FlexBuilder 1.5) has, in my opinion, sucked pretty badly. The development
approach for Flex has more in common with Visual Basic or any other
traditional forms-based development IDE than with traditional Flash
development, and I think it's unrealistic to expect one IDE to serve such
disparate needs.

And, for what it's worth, the major improvement in the new FlexBuilder IDE
is largely a result of being based on Eclipse (an open-source product) - if
Adobe had to create Eclipse's functionality from scratch, the new IDE would
likely be much more expensive and not as good.

 I also feel that Adobe/Macromedia has not done a good job 
 explaining the need for two products, or why I would want to 
 use one or another for a particular project. I mean, a 
 deeper explanation than: Flash is for games and animations; 
 Flex is for Form-based RIAs.

How much deeper could it possibly be? If you're building a traditional
forms-based application, you want to use Flex. If not, you don't!

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Re: [Flashcoders] setRGB for Several Instances of MovieClip

2006-05-23 Thread Zeh Fernando

of MovieClipB inside of it?  In theory, I should be able to set the color
of MovieClipB, and thereby change the appearance of all instances of
MovieClipA?  Doesn't work though -- it only changes the appearance of the
instance of MovieClipA in which I changed the color of MovieClipB.


It doesn't work because it isn't supposed to work like that (your theory 
isn't correct).


All instances are that - instances. Whatever you change on one instance 
isn't reflected on the other. They're completely different objects now, even 
if they have been created from the same original symbol.




Is there any way to do this?


You have to change the color of all instances you want the color to be 
changed.


IE,

var myMovies = [this.movieclipa, this.movieclipb, this.movieclipc];
for (var i in myMovies) new Color(myMovies[i]).setRGB(0xwhatevercolor);

Or any longer version of that.


- Zeh 


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Adam Pasztory

But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one to go away for
weekends.  I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell multiple versions of the IDE,
like they have been doing with Basic and Professional.

On 5/23/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines.

Imagine if everyone had complained to Henry Ford about the same thing.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Dave Watts
 But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one 
 to go away for weekends.  I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell 
 multiple versions of the IDE, like they have been doing with 
 Basic and Professional.

That's a crappy analogy. These IDEs do DIFFERENT THINGS! A better analogy
might be, a car and a boat. Of course, maybe you want a really expensive
car-boat that's not especially good for driving or boating:

http://www.dukw.com/

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Adam Pasztory

I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on whether you
believe Form-based applications are different enough from other flash apps
to warrant their own IDE.  Personally, I don't.  I can already build
Form-based apps just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML.  So please explain how
Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords).

Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool.  Yes, AS 3 looks promising.  But why not just
build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based actionscript compiler/editor?
Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is confusing.  I'm sure it
will create all sorts of workflow headaches between artists and developers.
And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients who may only
have a passing familiarity with Flash that they're going to have to buy both
Flash 9 and Flex 2 to compile my stuff. :(

On 5/23/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one
 to go away for weekends.  I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell
 multiple versions of the IDE, like they have been doing with
 Basic and Professional.

That's a crappy analogy. These IDEs do DIFFERENT THINGS! A better analogy
might be, a car and a boat. Of course, maybe you want a really expensive
car-boat that's not especially good for driving or boating:

http://www.dukw.com/

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Robert A. Colvin
Flash is to Flexbuilder as Fireworks is to Dreamweaver.  That's the way
I see it, except that we may have to wait to benefit from the type of
integration FW and DW have accomplished.

Just my two pence
-Robert

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam
Pasztory
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:18 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on whether you
believe Form-based applications are different enough from other flash
apps
to warrant their own IDE.  Personally, I don't.  I can already build
Form-based apps just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML.  So please explain
how
Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords).

Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool.  Yes, AS 3 looks promising.  But why not
just
build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based actionscript
compiler/editor?
Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is confusing.  I'm sure
it
will create all sorts of workflow headaches between artists and
developers.
And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients who may only
have a passing familiarity with Flash that they're going to have to buy
both
Flash 9 and Flex 2 to compile my stuff. :(

On 5/23/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one
  to go away for weekends.  I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell
  multiple versions of the IDE, like they have been doing with
  Basic and Professional.

 That's a crappy analogy. These IDEs do DIFFERENT THINGS! A better
analogy
 might be, a car and a boat. Of course, maybe you want a really
expensive
 car-boat that's not especially good for driving or boating:

 http://www.dukw.com/

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
I do, I take my Rodeo off-road camping and my Prius for the HOV lanes on
the freeway.  :)There is a reason they started making more than the
model T.

Jason Merrill
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Pasztory
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:22 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

But I don't have to buy 2 cars, one to get to work, and one to go away
for weekends.  I'm fine if Adobe wants to sell multiple versions of the
IDE, like they have been doing with Basic and Professional.

On 5/23/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines.

 Imagine if everyone had complained to Henry Ford about the same thing.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Dave Watts
 I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on 
 whether you believe Form-based applications are different 
 enough from other flash apps to warrant their own IDE.  
 Personally, I don't. I can already build Form-based apps 
 just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML.  So please explain how 
 Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords).

I don't know from superior - I have no knowledge or experience using the
Flash IDE, and I'm not a Flash programmer. I AM a Flex programmer, however.
(An inexperienced Flex programmer, but you have to start somewhere.) I also
have experience developing forms-based applications using other traditional
IDEs, such as Visual Studio and its predecessors. These IDEs have a common
development idiom - you drag controls onto the form, you bind event handlers
to them, etc. The Flash IDE does not follow this idiom, and the FlexBuilder
IDE does. Whether you like it or not, this is very valuable if you want to
attract developers who are familiar with the idiom.

 Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool.  Yes, AS 3 looks promising.  
 But why not just build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based 
 actionscript compiler/editor?

It's all about the idiom, again - people with experience using traditional
forms-based IDEs expect to see certain things. Eclipse has those things, the
Flash IDE doesn't (at least, as far as I know - again, I'm not a Flash
developer.)

 Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is 
 confusing.  I'm sure it will create all sorts of workflow 
 headaches between artists and developers.

I don't think the two products are similar at all. In fact, if they didn't
create applications that used the same runtime environment (the Flash Player
itself) you'd have no reason to assume they shared any commonality at all.

 And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients 
 who may only have a passing familiarity with Flash that 
 they're going to have to buy both Flash 9 and Flex 2 to 
 compile my stuff. :(

Well, fortunately, they won't need to buy Flex 2 to compile your stuff.
There will apparently be a free, command-line Flex compiler which you can
download and use separately from FlexBuilder. In theory, you could just use
Notepad or any other editor for Flex development, although that would
probably be quite tedious and painful; in the same way, you can write C#
apps with Notepad and compile them using the .NET MSIL compiler, but yecch.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Doug Coning
This may be a dumb question, but has anyone ever developed a project in
Flex and towards the end decided that Flash would have been a better
tool for the project?  Or vice-a-versa?

If so, why?  I'm trying to determine if there are any pitfalls of
deciding to use Flex over Flash for larger projects.

Hope that makes sense...

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Re: [Flashcoders] setRGB for Several Instances of MovieClip

2006-05-23 Thread Brandon Krakowsky/MTC
Yeah, that's what I figured.  I was hoping it was more of a Tint type 
effect, as if I manually added a tint on MovieClipB.  Thanks!





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 of MovieClipB inside of it?  In theory, I should be able to set the 
color
 of MovieClipB, and thereby change the appearance of all instances of
 MovieClipA?  Doesn't work though -- it only changes the appearance of 
the
 instance of MovieClipA in which I changed the color of MovieClipB.

It doesn't work because it isn't supposed to work like that (your theory 
isn't correct).

All instances are that - instances. Whatever you change on one instance 
isn't reflected on the other. They're completely different objects now, 
even 
if they have been created from the same original symbol.


 Is there any way to do this?

You have to change the color of all instances you want the color to be 
changed.

IE,

var myMovies = [this.movieclipa, this.movieclipb, this.movieclipc];
for (var i in myMovies) new Color(myMovies[i]).setRGB(0xwhatevercolor);

Or any longer version of that.


- Zeh 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa

Haven´t used Flex Builder yet, but I must say I´m quite satisfied with the
Flash 8 IDE + FlashDevelop2 + mtasc bundle right now. Flash IDE is just fine
both for animations and for the building of forms IMHO.

Wether I will be going to Flex2 or haXe, keep working with AS2 will depend
on several factors... however, even though we are being overwhelmed by the
amount of options, it is indeed exciting to see all this new technology
emerging :) - so, one day after another...

- Marcelo.

On 5/23/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on
 whether you believe Form-based applications are different
 enough from other flash apps to warrant their own IDE.
 Personally, I don't. I can already build Form-based apps
 just fine in Flash 8 or with DHTML.  So please explain how
 Flex is superior (without using acronyms or buzzwords).

I don't know from superior - I have no knowledge or experience using the
Flash IDE, and I'm not a Flash programmer. I AM a Flex programmer,
however.
(An inexperienced Flex programmer, but you have to start somewhere.) I
also
have experience developing forms-based applications using other
traditional
IDEs, such as Visual Studio and its predecessors. These IDEs have a common
development idiom - you drag controls onto the form, you bind event
handlers
to them, etc. The Flash IDE does not follow this idiom, and the
FlexBuilder
IDE does. Whether you like it or not, this is very valuable if you want to
attract developers who are familiar with the idiom.

 Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool.  Yes, AS 3 looks promising.
 But why not just build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based
 actionscript compiler/editor?

It's all about the idiom, again - people with experience using traditional
forms-based IDEs expect to see certain things. Eclipse has those things,
the
Flash IDE doesn't (at least, as far as I know - again, I'm not a Flash
developer.)

 Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is
 confusing.  I'm sure it will create all sorts of workflow
 headaches between artists and developers.

I don't think the two products are similar at all. In fact, if they didn't
create applications that used the same runtime environment (the Flash
Player
itself) you'd have no reason to assume they shared any commonality at all.

 And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients
 who may only have a passing familiarity with Flash that
 they're going to have to buy both Flash 9 and Flex 2 to
 compile my stuff. :(

Well, fortunately, they won't need to buy Flex 2 to compile your stuff.
There will apparently be a free, command-line Flex compiler which you can
download and use separately from FlexBuilder. In theory, you could just
use
Notepad or any other editor for Flex development, although that would
probably be quite tedious and painful; in the same way, you can write C#
apps with Notepad and compile them using the .NET MSIL compiler, but
yecch.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Clint Tredway
Really, the only thing Flash and Flex have incommon is what they compile
to and they both us AS...

Form application development in Flash is a royal pain.. In Flex its much
easier and you can build a much better experience than with Flash. I
know, I have done both... 

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 I guess whether you think it's a crappy analogy depends on whether you

 believe Form-based applications are different enough from other flash 
 apps to warrant their own IDE.
 Personally, I don't. I can already build Form-based apps just fine in 
 Flash 8 or with DHTML.  So please explain how Flex is superior 
 (without using acronyms or buzzwords).

I don't know from superior - I have no knowledge or experience using the
Flash IDE, and I'm not a Flash programmer. I AM a Flex programmer,
however.
(An inexperienced Flex programmer, but you have to start somewhere.) I
also have experience developing forms-based applications using other
traditional IDEs, such as Visual Studio and its predecessors. These IDEs
have a common development idiom - you drag controls onto the form, you
bind event handlers to them, etc. The Flash IDE does not follow this
idiom, and the FlexBuilder IDE does. Whether you like it or not, this is
very valuable if you want to attract developers who are familiar with
the idiom.

 Yes, the Eclipse IDE is cool.  Yes, AS 3 looks promising.  
 But why not just build the Flash 9 IDE with an Eclipse-based 
 actionscript compiler/editor?

It's all about the idiom, again - people with experience using
traditional forms-based IDEs expect to see certain things. Eclipse has
those things, the Flash IDE doesn't (at least, as far as I know - again,
I'm not a Flash
developer.)

 Ceating two similar but non-overlapping products is confusing.  I'm 
 sure it will create all sorts of workflow headaches between artists 
 and developers.

I don't think the two products are similar at all. In fact, if they
didn't create applications that used the same runtime environment (the
Flash Player
itself) you'd have no reason to assume they shared any commonality at
all.

 And I'm really not looking forward to explaining to clients who may 
 only have a passing familiarity with Flash that they're going to have 
 to buy both Flash 9 and Flex 2 to compile my stuff. :(

Well, fortunately, they won't need to buy Flex 2 to compile your stuff.
There will apparently be a free, command-line Flex compiler which you
can download and use separately from FlexBuilder. In theory, you could
just use Notepad or any other editor for Flex development, although that
would probably be quite tedious and painful; in the same way, you can
write C# apps with Notepad and compile them using the .NET MSIL
compiler, but yecch.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
At my previous employer, wanted to build a project with Flex 1.5, client
couldn't/wouldn't pay for it, so we built it with Flash - took 5 times
longer, and was 5-times buggier but it was do-able.  Basically had to
write the same kinds of classes for Flash that macromedia already built
for Flex, and make it renderable by descriptive XML. It was a fun
project, but I wish I had Flex.  It was a very large interactive portal
with different elements which also displayed metrics dashboards.  

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This may be a dumb question, but has anyone ever developed a project in
Flex and towards the end decided that Flash would have been a better
tool for the project?  Or vice-a-versa?

If so, why?  I'm trying to determine if there are any pitfalls of
deciding to use Flex over Flash for larger projects.

Hope that makes sense...

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[Flashcoders] Flash Remoting Freezing Player

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Boutin

Hello everyone,

I have been doing some work with Flash Remoting and AMFPHP.  The problem 
im having is the same problem I get with using PHP and XML.  The Flash 
player seems to just freeze whenever I make a backend call.  No loading 
animations or anything causing the user to think the app has crashed. 
Is this a common problem and are there any work arounds for this? Any 
info about be greatly appreciated!



Thanks!

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RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

2006-05-23 Thread Fitzpatrick, Kevin
Matthew,

Because in this case 2 would refer to the second of a number of
slides.  I know it's not an ideal situation.  


Jason, 
As to it being a best practice to start with a non-numeric character, I
totally understand the logic behind that.  However, I believe that this
is flaw in the player that we are being detoured around by the *best
practices*.  As we all know 2 is very different from 2.  If I specify
a string 2 why would the player reinterpret that into the Number(2)?
Whether I named it a silly name or not, why would the developers have
thought that I'd want them to change the datatype of my parameter when I
explicitly defined it as a String?  

We'll probably work around it by calling the frame Slide 2 or whatever
but it does seem like a silly restriction.  

Of course, there is *always* the chance that I'm doing something
incredibly wrong, too :)

Thanks,
Kevin

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SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing 
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

Just curious, but why would you want to use numerics as frame labels
then use frameLabel:String? Why not frameLabel:Number?

 

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Subject: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

Hey all,

A question regarding frame labels. When using the
gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the
string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20)
it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead
to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *.

Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it
that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a
number.

Sorry if that was a bit confusing.

Thanks,
Kevin

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[Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Juan Anzaldo
You can use a car for a easy drive in a city and a 4X4
for robust use :D IMHO

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RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
There are a lot of silly bugs you have to work around with best
practices - this is common in just about any application development
environment. 


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Matthew,

Because in this case 2 would refer to the second of a number of
slides.  I know it's not an ideal situation.  


Jason,
As to it being a best practice to start with a non-numeric character, I
totally understand the logic behind that.  However, I believe that this
is flaw in the player that we are being detoured around by the *best
practices*.  As we all know 2 is very different from 2.  If I specify
a string 2 why would the player reinterpret that into the Number(2)?
Whether I named it a silly name or not, why would the developers have
thought that I'd want them to change the datatype of my parameter when I
explicitly defined it as a String?  

We'll probably work around it by calling the frame Slide 2 or whatever
but it does seem like a silly restriction.  

Of course, there is *always* the chance that I'm doing something
incredibly wrong, too :)

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Fitzpatrick
Flash Designer,
SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions
Center
3999 West Chester Pike
Newtown Square, PA 19073
C (267) 254-6225
E [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:42 PM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

Just curious, but why would you want to use numerics as frame labels
then use frameLabel:String? Why not frameLabel:Number?

 

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Subject: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

Hey all,

A question regarding frame labels. When using the
gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the
string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20)
it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead
to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *.

Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it
that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a
number.

Sorry if that was a bit confusing.

Thanks,
Kevin

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RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

2006-05-23 Thread Matthew Simpson
Thanks for the knowledge Kevin. 

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Matthew,

Because in this case 2 would refer to the second of a number of
slides.  I know it's not an ideal situation.  


Jason,
As to it being a best practice to start with a non-numeric character, I
totally understand the logic behind that.  However, I believe that this
is flaw in the player that we are being detoured around by the *best
practices*.  As we all know 2 is very different from 2.  If I specify
a string 2 why would the player reinterpret that into the Number(2)?
Whether I named it a silly name or not, why would the developers have
thought that I'd want them to change the datatype of my parameter when I
explicitly defined it as a String?  

We'll probably work around it by calling the frame Slide 2 or whatever
but it does seem like a silly restriction.  

Of course, there is *always* the chance that I'm doing something
incredibly wrong, too :)

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Fitzpatrick
Flash Designer,
SAP.com Web Services Team - SAP Global Marketing SAP Global Solutions
Center
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E [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:42 PM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

Just curious, but why would you want to use numerics as frame labels
then use frameLabel:String? Why not frameLabel:Number?

 

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Subject: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

Hey all,

A question regarding frame labels. When using the
gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the
string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20)
it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead
to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *.

Does everyone else experience this problem and is there anyway around it
that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a
number.

Sorry if that was a bit confusing.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Adam Pasztory

I hate to keep flogging this topic, but I couldn't stop thinking about this
all through lunch.  I will make the following comments and then move on to
more useful things.

1. The mere existance of this thread suggests to me that Adobe hasn't done
an adequate  job explaining what purpose Flex serves, and how it's supposed
to integrate with current workflows.  Maybe they will when they release, but
they haven't yet.
2. I don't buy the argument that Flex is *just* for making forms apps.
There are a number of features in Flex that would be highly desireable for
the Flash IDE, such as the ability to use XML to define a Flash file.  If I
want to take advantage of these features, I'm going to have to use Flex,
regardless of whether I am a Forms Developer or a Non-forms Developer.
3. I am all for Adobe having a wide variety of IDEs, including Flash Newbie
Edition, Flash for Recovering VB Coders Edition, and Flash Super-Ultra-Mega
Enterprise Edition.  But I am questioning the decision to segment the
product line in such a way that requires me to invest in two overlapping but
distinct tools.

I love Flash.  If Flex brings more traditional developers on board with
Flash I think that's great.   But I wanted to share my perspective as
someone who's been developing Flash for years, that these developments are
somewhat perplexing.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Dave Watts
 1. The mere existance of this thread suggests to me that 
 Adobe hasn't done an adequate job explaining what purpose 
 Flex serves, and how it's supposed to integrate with current 
 workflows. Maybe they will when they release, but they haven't 
 yet.

Of course, everyone else commenting in this thread seems to disagree with
you. Perhaps the problem isn't with Adobe?

 2. I don't buy the argument that Flex is *just* for making forms 
 apps. There are a number of features in Flex that would be highly 
 desireable for the Flash IDE, such as the ability to use XML 
 to define a Flash file. If I want to take advantage of these 
 features, I'm going to have to use Flex, regardless of 
 whether I am a Forms Developer or a Non-forms Developer.

I think that, despite these features, that's all FlexBuilder is designed for
- forms-based applications. I don't know much about traditional Flash
development, but my experience with FlexBuilder leads me to believe that it
would be difficult to use FlexBuilder to build non-forms-based applications
(which is presumably different from using FlexBuilder as a code editor for
ActionScript).

But if all you want to do is write MXML, you could use any XML-aware editor,
and validate against the MXML schema. If you're not actually building forms,
your MXML will presumably not have much in it, since MXML primarily
describes the view of your application as containers and controls.

 3. I am all for Adobe having a wide variety of IDEs, 
 including Flash Newbie Edition, Flash for Recovering VB 
 Coders Edition, and Flash Super-Ultra-Mega Enterprise 
 Edition. But I am questioning the decision to segment the 
 product line in such a way that requires me to invest in two 
 overlapping but distinct tools.

Well, first, this is largely academic, because they've already done this.
And again, this isn't anything new - right now, in my training room, there's
a Flex 1.5 class using FlexBuilder 1.5, which is a superset of Dreamweaver.
FlexBuilder 1.5 is not especially pleasant to use, in my opinion.

So, practically speaking, there seem to have been a limited number of
options:

1. Build a single uber-IDE capable of serving traditional Flash developers
and Flex developers. Of course, given the fundamental differences between
how these development models work, this would essentially consist of
shoehorning two IDEs within one program - there would be very little
commonality between them. Because they'd be building all this stuff from
scratch, it would presumably be more expensive and less reliable.

2. Continue using Dreamweaver as the basis for FlexBuilder. Yecch.

3. Use an existing IDE as the basis of FlexBuilder - one that is already
quite popular with the target audience for Flex - Eclipse.

But in any case, I don't see these tools as overlapping. As a Flex
developer, I doubt I'll ever use the Flash IDE. Despite the use of a common
runtime, Flex development seems to me to be fundamentally different from
Flash development.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Merrill, Jason
 
I think that, despite these features, that's all FlexBuilder is
designed for
- forms-based applications. I don't know much about traditional Flash
development, 
but my experience with FlexBuilder leads me to believe that it would
be difficult to use 
FlexBuilder to build non-forms-based applications (which is
presumably different 
from using FlexBuilder as a code editor for ActionScript).

FWIW, IMO, not just forms, but metrics dashboards, shopping sites, and I
even saw a really well done interactive e-learning course done with
Flex.  

Jason Merrill
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread ryanm

1. Build a single uber-IDE capable of serving traditional Flash developers
and Flex developers. Of course, given the fundamental differences between
how these development models work, this would essentially consist of
shoehorning two IDEs within one program - there would be very little
commonality between them. Because they'd be building all this stuff from
scratch, it would presumably be more expensive and less reliable.

   I don't necessarily agree with you here. The Flash IDE *could* have a 
robust and useful code view that could also be used to build flex apps 
without ever creating an fla file. That could be used to edit classes and 
even timeline code, while the traditional Flash IDE view could be used to 
make fla files, edit timeline animations, etc. I think it *could* be one 
uber-IDE, as you called it, without necessarily being either more expensive 
or less reliable. The root of the problem is that it's more profitable to 
have two IDEs, because one makes developers from other languages happy and 
one makes the users of previous Flash versions happy, and in the middle is a 
rather large group of people who will have to pay for both. Making one IDE 
would only make those in the middle happy, and would require Adobe to 
rethink a lot of their existing code base instead of simply polishing up 
the existing code base. More work and less profit doesn't make for a good 
business model.


ryanm 


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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Dan Thatcher
Whoa, hold the phone...eLearning?  Do you know/remember what the site was?
I would be very interested to see it

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Jason
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I think that, despite these features, that's all FlexBuilder is
designed for
- forms-based applications. I don't know much about traditional Flash
development, 
but my experience with FlexBuilder leads me to believe that it would
be difficult to use 
FlexBuilder to build non-forms-based applications (which is
presumably different 
from using FlexBuilder as a code editor for ActionScript).

FWIW, IMO, not just forms, but metrics dashboards, shopping sites, and I
even saw a really well done interactive e-learning course done with
Flex.  

Jason Merrill
Bank of America  |  www.bankofamerica.com 
Learning  Organization Effectiveness 
Technology Solutions
 
 

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RE: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers

2006-05-23 Thread Steven Sacks
What's the problem with using a single letter before the frame number?

Such as, f2, f18, f50, etc.



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 Subject: [Flashcoders] gotoAndStop and Frame labels as Numbers
 
 Hey all,
 
 A question regarding frame labels. When using the
 gotoAndStop(frameLabel:String) method in a simple flash movie and the
 string could be evaluated to a Number (such as the string 2 or 20)
 it seems that the flash player does evaluate it and sends the playhead
 to *frame 2* instead of the frame *labeled '2' *.
 
 Does everyone else experience this problem and is there 
 anyway around it
 that still allows one to label a frame with a string that could be a
 number.
 
 Sorry if that was a bit confusing.
 
 Thanks,
 Kevin


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread judah

Adam,
I hear what you're saying. It is frustrating to have to shell out money 
for two different products.


Here's the history. The Flash IDE has had numerous workflow problems, 
intrinsic problems and limitations in the language (prototype based), 
slow engine (in comparison to fp9) and other subtle but nasty bugs. 
Flash started out and was an animation program that has been upgraded 
again and again with new features on top of the previous program and new 
features added to the previous renderer. For example, AS2 is compiled 
down to AS1.


Rather than built on a shaky foundation Macromedia realized the need to 
create a new sturdy foundation and fix the problems that plagued the 
original program and AS1 engine. So looking at all the things they 
wanted to do and fix they created a new rendering engine from the ground 
up and rather than reinvent the wheel, took one of the best development 
environment of the time and built a new product called Flex Builder off 
of it. They set the focus on making it create Applications for the web. 
They set out and fixed a whole huge mess of problems for us. No more 
having to built our own preloaders, awesome event handlers that bubble 
up, great layout tools, new states and transitions with a few lines of 
code, easy bookmarking in the browser and a whole lot of other things 
they knew we would be using it for. Plenty of things were planned in the 
design and implementation.


Most of the benefits are realized once you use it. It would not have 
worked as well to have overhauled the Flash IDE.


A lot of people are trying to differentiate the two by saying one is for 
animation and design and one is for applications and forms. Well yes and 
no. You have to try it but I'm going to say you can do 90% of what is on 
the web with Flex. I made this site in about an hour as practice to see 
if it could be used for websites. Copying and pasting of course (sorry 
it lost some formatting). 
http://www.judahfrangipane.com/examples/main.html. Flex uses MXML and 
ActionScript 3. You still have a design view but you can edit the html, 
I mean xml, I mean MXML. So the layout is very powerful. I could easily 
add smooth transitions and states to that site in about 15 minutes by 
adding transitions tags. The same thing would have taken a lot longer in 
Flash. The one main thing you do lose in Flex is the animation timeline. 
So if you want to do animation with a timeline then you would use Flash.


So we come to now. Adobe has two products that output to FP9 player. 
They both overlap in functionality and you now have two products to 
choose from. The Flex Builder is not out yet so it's feature set is not 
set in stone. Remember the Macromedia guys, who btw are very smart 
blokes, have been in the lab two years scheming like mad scientists to 
make the best new Flash / web content producing ide out there.


The only thing I'm concerned about is if they don't add in the features 
in Flex we need because it is out of scope of RIA development. This 
would be a drag. I plan to use Flex 2 for everything on the web. Not 
just applications. Even if some aspect is a bit more work in Flex I'd 
rather use it. HTH


peace,
Judah


Adam Pasztory wrote:

I am very frustrated by the IDE being split into two product lines.  Like
many other Flash developers, I do both games and animation projects 
and also
RIA projects, so it looks like I'm now going to have to invest two 
products
from now on!  This is just one reason why I'm shifting more and more 
to open

source tools.

I also feel that Adobe/Macromedia has not done a good job explaining the
need for two products, or why I would want to use one or another for a
particular project.  I mean, a deeper explanation than: Flash is for 
games

and animations; Flex is for Form-based RIAs.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Bill Lane
I have been reading this thread with some interest (occassionally
cheering and sometimes getting upset).  We are currently using the Beta
to build an elearning application so I feel I have some useful insights
into the differences between the two.
 
Firstly I don't think the difference is as straight-forward as forms vs
animation.  Many of the things we build will require a blend.  Certainly
if I was doing anything with forms I'd much rather be building it in
Flex.  It is much faster to develop form based things in Flex.  There is
a level of functionality built into the Flex framework that would take
many man hours to reproduce in Flash.  On the other side I wouldn't want
to do any frame based (as opposed to actionscript based ) animation in
Flex.  But there is a whole spectrum of things that sit between these
two extremes.  Anything that could be built using actionscript can be
built in Flex and once you get used to the way Flex does things I think
they can be built faster and that they will be more reliable.  Also you
can use your Flash built animations in Flex but I'm not sure how easily
you could use your Flex built forms in Flash 9.
 
Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the
difference between the two.  I can't see how you can say that.  There
has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost
entirely devoted to it.  The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation
as any developer should need.  The only way to really understand the
difference is to attempt to build something with it.
 
Someone suggests that Adobe's motivation in creating a seperate IDE is
profit.  But the framework itself is free.  I actually don't like
Eclipse myself and have been using a seperate editor for Flex
development.  I always used to use Sepy for my actionscript.  But I
still had to use Flash for compiling.  Now I can compile from the
editor.  I think it will depend on your background which style of
development you will prefer and I think it's great that Flash (as a
platform) can be adapted to suit different needs and is open to Open
Source options.
 
I also don't think it's helpful to talk about the difference as
designers vs developers.  I don't think that Flex Builder is a designer
free app.  I can easily imagine a workflow where the designer prepares
the layout and look of an area and then the developer connects the
functionality to it.
 
I think the biggest problem with the introduction of Flex is the
learning curve.  Flex is a new metaphor for Flash development and there
is a lot to get used to.  But some of that new knowledge is really about
the radical changes in Actionscript 3.  That is something that will
effect all of us sooner or later as it will be part of Flash 9.  It is
AS3 rather than Flex that will increase the distance between designers
and devlopers.
 
Bill Lane
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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Dave Watts
 FWIW, IMO, not just forms, but metrics dashboards, shopping 
 sites, and I even saw a really well done interactive 
 e-learning course done with Flex.

Well, it all depends on what you mean by forms-based applications. Prior
to the web, the term meant something pretty specific - applications built
VB-style to run within a windowed, event-driven environment (even if that
windowed environment was in DOS!) It has more to do with the development
metaphors of windowing and events than anything else. All of the examples
you provided could easily be developed within those metaphors.

Now of course, on the Web, forms has a much more limited meaning.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Dave Watts
 I don't necessarily agree with you here. The Flash IDE 
 *could* have a robust and useful code view that could also 
 be used to build flex apps without ever creating an fla file. 
 That could be used to edit classes and even timeline code, 
 while the traditional Flash IDE view could be used to make 
 fla files, edit timeline animations, etc. I think it *could* 
 be one uber-IDE, as you called it, without necessarily being 
 either more expensive or less reliable. The root of the 
 problem is that it's more profitable to have two IDEs, 
 because one makes developers from other languages happy and 
 one makes the users of previous Flash versions happy, and in 
 the middle is a rather large group of people who will have to 
 pay for both. Making one IDE would only make those in the 
 middle happy, and would require Adobe to rethink a lot of 
 their existing code base instead of simply polishing up 
 the existing code base. More work and less profit doesn't 
 make for a good business model.

You've heard the expression good, fast and cheap - pick any two, right? I
don't think it would have been possible for Macromedia/Adobe to deliver a
good, affordable multipurpose IDE in a reasonable timeframe. It's not just
about code view, but rather the whole look/feel/approachability of the IDE.

For someone like me - someone who's not a Flash developer - the Flash IDE is
somewhat overwhelming, and has a bunch of things in it that don't even make
sense from a forms-based application development perspective.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Adam Pasztory

Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the

difference between the two.  I can't see how you can say that.  There
has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost
entirely devoted to it.  The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation
as any developer should need.  The only way to really understand the
difference is to attempt to build something with it.

While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few
hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did
not find the clear explanations I was hoping for.  Maybe that makes me a bad
developer.  But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as
good ones.  :)  This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved.

If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe
that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or
details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow.  Maybe this is all
coming after the release.  Or maybe it's been added since I looked through
the labs site.  Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who
want to transition to Flex?

I want to like Flex.  I really do.  I'm not trying to attack any Flex
developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/Adobe.  I'm
just sharing my personal observations around it so far.  There's enough
contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not doing a
good enough job getting the message out.  The ongoing success of Flash is
important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt the
need to say this.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Bedar
There may have been alpha's betas available for a while, but they've  
been PC only..


i have to grind that axe every now and then




On May 23, 2006, at 9:03 PM, Adam Pasztory wrote:


Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the

difference between the two.  I can't see how you can say that.  There
has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost
entirely devoted to it.  The Samples Explorer is as clear an  
explanation

as any developer should need.  The only way to really understand the
difference is to attempt to build something with it.

While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite  
a few
hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials,  
and I did
not find the clear explanations I was hoping for.  Maybe that makes  
me a bad
developer.  But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as  
well as
good ones.  :)  This was a few months ago, so maybe things have  
improved.


If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from  
Adobe

that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or
details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow.  Maybe this  
is all
coming after the release.  Or maybe it's been added since I looked  
through
the labs site.  Where is the practical tutorial for Flash  
Developers who

want to transition to Flex?

I want to like Flex.  I really do.  I'm not trying to attack any Flex
developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/ 
Adobe.  I'm
just sharing my personal observations around it so far.  There's  
enough
contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're  
not doing a
good enough job getting the message out.  The ongoing success of  
Flash is
important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've  
felt the

need to say this.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Bill Lane
A very reasonable axe it is too.  Apologies.
 
Bill Lane

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/24/06 11:10 am 
There may have been alpha's betas available for a while, but they've  
been PC only..

i have to grind that axe every now and then
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Chambers
We have had Mac builds of the SDKs (compiler, frameworks, etc...)  
since beta 2.


http://www.adobe.com/go/labs_flex2_downloads

In fact, I am developing in AS3 and Flex 2 on my Mac right now.

mike chambers

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On May 23, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Michael Bedar wrote:


There may have been alpha's betas available for a while, but they've
been PC only..

i have to grind that axe every now and then

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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread judah

Adam Pasztory wrote:


While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few
hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and 
I did
not find the clear explanations I was hoping for.  Maybe that makes me 
a bad

developer.  But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as
good ones.  :)  This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved.
I agree. Not about the bad developer part. About the clear explanations 
part. I had to actually start using it to see the differences myself.


If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe
that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or
details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow.  Maybe this is all
coming after the release.  Or maybe it's been added since I looked 
through

the labs site.  Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who
want to transition to Flex?
These would be helpful. I think thats exactly what the Flash communtiy 
needs. Some reviews, side by side comparisons, pros and cons of each 
type of things. I know this things will come out eventually. I wrote a 
post recently that has a little bit of comparison for the Flash 
developer but I don't go into too much detail. Check out these links 
http://www.judahfrangipane.com/?p=22 and 
http://www.judahfrangipane.com/?p=20


Judah


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RE: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness

2006-05-23 Thread Nehal
I already reported that to MM (with very simple and small test cases)

Can you share test case?

Neh


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo
Volmaro
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:31 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Alpha Masking Weirdness

Indeed, it´s a buggy flash player behavior.
When you mix TextFields with Masks and FX, all goes wrong. It has nothing  
to do with MTASC.
I already reported that to MM (with very simple and small test cases)

Maybe in the next update? Or maybe we need to wait for the V9 player.


On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:42:35 -0300, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 I've embedded the font, naturally.  I'm getting extremely buggy behavior.
 Sometimes the textfield will appear partially... only the right half of  
 the
 textfield, but most of the time, not at all.

 At one point, I found that removing the dropshadow filter from the
 textfield, and then adding it back later programmatically helped the
 problem.  But, now that I've added the alpha mask, it doesn't behave  
 right,
 and it's very slow.

 The only thing I can think of is that it has something to do with the
 combination of movies compiled with MTASC versus the Flash IDE.  The  
 shell
 is all code, compiled in MTASC, and it loads in modules created in the  
 Flash
 IDE.



 On 5/22/06, Vivek lakhanpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try embedding font for the textfield.

 Thanks,
 Vivek

 On 5/23/06, Rifled Cloaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  All,
 
  I'm masking a MovieClip with an alpha mask using cacheAsBitmap.  The
  MovieClip has a dynamic text field inside it that I populate at a  
 later
  time.  When I play the movie, the area where the textfield is remains
  empty.  If I drag the corner of the player to resize the movie, the  
 text
  magically appears.  Anyone run into this sort of weird behavior?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Bill Lane
I don't think it's a question good developer vs bad developer.  The Flex
metaphor was developed to be comfortable to developers coming from a
non-Flash background.  Most of us were attracted to Flash exactly
because it wasn't like those environments.  I think you're correct in
saying that the existing documentation is written with non-Flash users
in mind.  Consequently a lot of Flash users may take a while to get
it. I'm still struggling with some of the details.  But I'm finding
more and more situations where I'm asking myself ; is it really that
easy.  But it's taken me quite a few hours to get to that point.
 
Bill Lane

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/24/06 11:03 am 
 Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the
difference between the two.  I can't see how you can say that.  There
has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost
entirely devoted to it.  The Samples Explorer is as clear an
explanation
as any developer should need.  The only way to really understand the
difference is to attempt to build something with it.

While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a
few
hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and
I did
not find the clear explanations I was hoping for.  Maybe that makes me
a bad
developer.  But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well
as
good ones.  :)  This was a few months ago, so maybe things have
improved.

If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from
Adobe
that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or
details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow.  Maybe this is
all
coming after the release.  Or maybe it's been added since I looked
through
the labs site.  Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers
who
want to transition to Flex?

I want to like Flex.  I really do.  I'm not trying to attack any Flex
developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/Adobe. 
I'm
just sharing my personal observations around it so far.  There's
enough
contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not
doing a
good enough job getting the message out.  The ongoing success of Flash
is
important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt
the
need to say this.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Muzak
If you have tried Flex 2 and can't tell the difference between the 2 IDE's, I 
don't know what to say..

http://labs.adobe.com/flexproductline/
some video's
http://labs.adobe.com/flexproductline/videos/
breeze presentation:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/brz_flex2/
FAQ:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/faq/flex2_faq.html

Now, none of the above actually 'compare' both IDE's, but maybe that's because 
there's no comparing them ;-)

Beta 3 comes with a start page similar to the one in Flash and other Adobe 
products that has a list of sample applications, 
tutorials etc..
I think they've done a great job regarding documentation and stuff to get you 
going.

regards,
Muzak


- Original Message - 
From: Adam Pasztory [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE


 Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the
difference between the two.  I can't see how you can say that.  There
has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost
entirely devoted to it.  The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation
as any developer should need.  The only way to really understand the
difference is to attempt to build something with it.

While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few
hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did
not find the clear explanations I was hoping for.  Maybe that makes me a bad
developer.  But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as
good ones.  :)  This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved.

If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe
that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or
details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow.  Maybe this is all
coming after the release.  Or maybe it's been added since I looked through
the labs site.  Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who
want to transition to Flex?

I want to like Flex.  I really do.  I'm not trying to attack any Flex
developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/Adobe.  I'm
just sharing my personal observations around it so far.  There's enough
contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not doing a
good enough job getting the message out.  The ongoing success of Flash is
important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt the
need to say this.



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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread Andy Johnston
its like trying to compare adobe indesign and illustrator, sure they 
share a lot of common underlying elements but the usage is much 
different.  If I want to layout a 100 page book i will use indesign... 
If i want to design a poster with rich graphic elements i will use 
illustrator


Flex is for large scale apps, ease of use with ui components and so 
on... Flash will be for animations on the ole time line and for doing 
smaller scale apps that need to be much more visually customised.


Theres enough space for all of us to play in!

If you have tried Flex 2 and can't tell the difference between the 2 IDE's, I 
don't know what to say..

http://labs.adobe.com/flexproductline/
some video's
http://labs.adobe.com/flexproductline/videos/
breeze presentation:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/brz_flex2/
FAQ:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/faq/flex2_faq.html

Now, none of the above actually 'compare' both IDE's, but maybe that's because 
there's no comparing them ;-)

Beta 3 comes with a start page similar to the one in Flash and other Adobe products that has a list of sample applications, 
tutorials etc..

I think they've done a great job regarding documentation and stuff to get you 
going.

regards,
Muzak


- Original Message - 
From: Adam Pasztory [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE


  

Someone suggested that Adobe hasn't done a good job explaining the


difference between the two.  I can't see how you can say that.  There
has been a public beta available for over 6 months and a site almost
entirely devoted to it.  The Samples Explorer is as clear an explanation
as any developer should need.  The only way to really understand the
difference is to attempt to build something with it.

While I think the concept of a beta program is great, I spent quite a few
hours poring over the documentation, and followed a few tutorials, and I did
not find the clear explanations I was hoping for.  Maybe that makes me a bad
developer.  But I assume Adobe wants to sell to bad developers as well as
good ones.  :)  This was a few months ago, so maybe things have improved.

If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from Adobe
that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or
details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow.  Maybe this is all
coming after the release.  Or maybe it's been added since I looked through
the labs site.  Where is the practical tutorial for Flash Developers who
want to transition to Flex?

I want to like Flex.  I really do.  I'm not trying to attack any Flex
developers or any of the smart people who work at Macromedia/Adobe.  I'm
just sharing my personal observations around it so far.  There's enough
contradictory info in this thread alone to make me think they're not doing a
good enough job getting the message out.  The ongoing success of Flash is
important to me personally, and to my career, so I that's why I've felt the
need to say this.



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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread David Mendels
Hello,

Let me try to address a few questions on this thread:

 If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, 
 etc. from Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between 
 Flex IDE and Flash IDE, or details about how to integrate 
 Flex into my workflow. 

We have an article on this up on the site here that hits just this
topic: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flex2_flash.html

In addition, one of the best articles on this is now a bit old (since
Flex 1.0, 2 years ago), but still worth checking out: The best article
on this has been on our site since the release of Flex 1.0, 2 years ago.
There are a few points in it that are now out of date, because it
certainly predates Flex 2, AS3, the free SDK, the ability to deploy Flex
apps without a server.  But the core ideas in the article are still
excellent and should help:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flash_perspective.html


-

Metaphors: two cars to get to work?  Or a Boat and Car? 

I don't think either of these metaphors is quite right.  But most
complex projects bring together teams of people with multiple skills and
different tools to achieve an aim.  Build a house.  The architect will
use a cad tool, the carpenter hammer and nails, the interior designer
may use photoshop, the painter will brushes, etc etc.  For a given task,
a carpenter could potentially use a hammer or a screw, but based on
experience, preference etc will usually choose one.  There is no one
answer to how a team should build an RIA, but with Flex and Flash there
is now a much richer toolset available to a wider set of people with
differing skills who can work together to build these RIAs (and others
on the team will use Photoshop, or AfterEffects, or a Java IDE, or PHP,
or or or). If we are right that this RIA idea is a fundamental trend,
having multiple metaphors that let more people design and build them is
a good thing.  Look at building Windows apps--you can use C, C++, MFC,
Visual Basic, Flash Projectors, etc.  To build HTML Web Apps you might
use all or a mix of Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Photoshop, JSP, ASP, CF.
Etc.  In some cases one person spans all of these roles and tools and
does it all, but more and more teams of people build these and bring
different experiences and skills to the project, and need different
tools and metaphors to contribute.


-

Flash for animation and Flex for Forms?

I think this is a bit too simple.  Certainly at the extremes it is a
relatively valid segmentation, but Flash can be used for Forms and Flex
can be used for animation.  For us, the ideal is to enable teams of
people that bring the media, animation, interaction design skills that
proliferate in the Flash community with the coding/architecture skills
that comes from Computer Science backgrounds (not that these are
mutually exclusely) together to build apps the are both media rich and
data rich, that are both beautiful and transactional, that include forms
and visualization, that integrate with with back end systems from FMS to
JMS to WebServices, that scale and are maintainable.  We have a lot more
work to do, but our aim is to enable seamless workflow for designers and
developers to work together more closely and iteratively to build rich
experiences.  As we release Blaze and we have AS3 in both Flash and
Flex, it will become easier still to integrate the two, and you will see
more and more focus on workflow over time. 

For folks who thing Flex is just for forms, check out:
http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/ (built with Flex 1.5)
http://www.harley-davidson.com/pr/gm/customizer/launchCustomizer.asp
(Built with Flex 1.0)
And take a look at how expressive Flex components can be at Ely's blog:
http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/animated-dragtile-compone
nt/ and
http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/fisheye-component/
(requires Flash Player 9 beta 3).



Should we have built a single Uber tool instead?

We sorta tried.  For a while there we tried to make Flash MX all things
to all people.  We found we were not satisfying the designers and
animators and we still had not reached the bar for acceptence by most
developers. Focus matters a lot. A product can't have two design
centers, two souls. In 1996 Director was the world's leading
multimedia authoring tool and Shockwave was doing incredibly on the Web.
But we looked at the total opportunity and decided to both start
Dreamweaver and focus deeply on the needs of professional web designers
doing HTML as well as aquire FutureSplash, now Flash.  While we had
added web export (Shockwave) to Director, we knew that it couldn't
compete (for some uses) with a product like Flash that was designed from
the ground up differently, and far more lightweight. In fact, back then,
I was running the FreeHand product line at Macromedia (among other
things)--should we have said, why add another vector graphics tool to
our product line, lets just add a timeline to 

RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE

2006-05-23 Thread David Mendels
Hello,

I just saw that this month's Edge newsletter has an article on this
topic too: http://www.adobe.com/newsletters/edge/may2006/section2.html

And it points to a relevent User Group presentation on the topic of Flex
for Flash Developers: http://mmusergroup.breezecentral.com/p95561356/

Regards,
David
Adobe 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of David Mendels
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:28 PM
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flex vs. Flash IDE
 
 Hello,
 
 Let me try to address a few questions on this thread:
 
  If I'm wrong, please point me to the documentation, FAQs, etc. from 
  Adobe that clearly explain the diferences between Flex IDE 
 and Flash 
  IDE, or details about how to integrate Flex into my workflow.
 
 We have an article on this up on the site here that hits just this
 topic: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flex2_flash.html
 
 In addition, one of the best articles on this is now a bit 
 old (since Flex 1.0, 2 years ago), but still worth checking 
 out: The best article on this has been on our site since the 
 release of Flex 1.0, 2 years ago.
 There are a few points in it that are now out of date, 
 because it certainly predates Flex 2, AS3, the free SDK, the 
 ability to deploy Flex apps without a server.  But the core 
 ideas in the article are still excellent and should help:
 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/flash_perspective.html
 
 
 -
 
 Metaphors: two cars to get to work?  Or a Boat and Car? 
 
 I don't think either of these metaphors is quite right.  But 
 most complex projects bring together teams of people with 
 multiple skills and different tools to achieve an aim.  Build 
 a house.  The architect will use a cad tool, the carpenter 
 hammer and nails, the interior designer may use photoshop, 
 the painter will brushes, etc etc.  For a given task, a 
 carpenter could potentially use a hammer or a screw, but 
 based on experience, preference etc will usually choose one.  
 There is no one answer to how a team should build an RIA, but 
 with Flex and Flash there is now a much richer toolset 
 available to a wider set of people with differing skills who 
 can work together to build these RIAs (and others on the team 
 will use Photoshop, or AfterEffects, or a Java IDE, or PHP, 
 or or or). If we are right that this RIA idea is a 
 fundamental trend, having multiple metaphors that let more 
 people design and build them is a good thing.  Look at 
 building Windows apps--you can use C, C++, MFC, Visual Basic, 
 Flash Projectors, etc.  To build HTML Web Apps you might use 
 all or a mix of Dreamweaver, Fireworks, Photoshop, JSP, ASP, CF.
 Etc.  In some cases one person spans all of these roles and 
 tools and does it all, but more and more teams of people 
 build these and bring different experiences and skills to the 
 project, and need different tools and metaphors to contribute.
 
 
 -
 
 Flash for animation and Flex for Forms?
 
 I think this is a bit too simple.  Certainly at the extremes 
 it is a relatively valid segmentation, but Flash can be used 
 for Forms and Flex can be used for animation.  For us, the 
 ideal is to enable teams of people that bring the media, 
 animation, interaction design skills that proliferate in the 
 Flash community with the coding/architecture skills that 
 comes from Computer Science backgrounds (not that these are 
 mutually exclusely) together to build apps the are both media 
 rich and data rich, that are both beautiful and 
 transactional, that include forms and visualization, that 
 integrate with with back end systems from FMS to JMS to 
 WebServices, that scale and are maintainable.  We have a lot 
 more work to do, but our aim is to enable seamless workflow 
 for designers and developers to work together more closely 
 and iteratively to build rich experiences.  As we release 
 Blaze and we have AS3 in both Flash and Flex, it will become 
 easier still to integrate the two, and you will see more and 
 more focus on workflow over time. 
 
 For folks who thing Flex is just for forms, check out:
 http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/ (built with Flex 1.5) 
 http://www.harley-davidson.com/pr/gm/customizer/launchCustomizer.asp
 (Built with Flex 1.0)
 And take a look at how expressive Flex components can be at 
 Ely's blog:
 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/animated-dragti
le-compone
 nt/ and
 http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/fisheye-component/
 (requires Flash Player 9 beta 3).
 
 
 
 Should we have built a single Uber tool instead?
 
 We sorta tried.  For a while there we tried to make Flash MX 
 all things to all people.  We found we were not satisfying 
 the designers and animators and we still had not reached the 
 bar for acceptence by most developers. Focus matters a lot. A 
 product can't have two design centers, two souls. In 1996 
 Director was the 

[Flashcoders] Overflowing dynamic text fields

2006-05-23 Thread Sajid Saiyed

Hi,
Was wondering if anyone has tried tis defore.

Most of the magazine layouts are multi-column. LIke two column
vertical or three column vertical.

Is there a way in Flash to create two vertical dynamic text fields and
get content from external file and when the text reaches the end of
the first box, it gets cropped and overflows to the secont text field.

Looking for some hints to achieve this.

Thanks
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