Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi everyone left, On 20.01.14 19:38, Dirk Meyer wrote: > Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not > want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end > of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone > wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github > and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will > the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue > to be valid. > > Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass > the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister > years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new > and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. > Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. This post was six years ago. Now Python 2 is end-of-live and Freevo won't run on Python 3.x.. I myself switched to kodi years ago. Whats left are some parts of the kaa library used by Freevo. I will start porting useful stuff from kaa to Python 3 ... or copy code from Tack who already did it. It may be useful for others and I will need it myself to port some private code to Python 3. kaa.metadata is still very useful for me. So join me at https://github.com/freevo and keep some good parts active and create new libraries. Maybe I will create a new project for kaa. But Freevo itself is dead. Therefore, I will not renew the freevo.org doamin and cleanup everything on sf.net. The "new" homepage will be freevo.sf.net again. If you need to contact me, please use the github page since this mail address will be invalid soon. Bye and again: it was a good time! Dischi ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Mplayer and Debian
Hi, On 02.01.2015 05:13, Dan Schmidt wrote: Thanks Pablo - I had heard that 14.04 has some issues On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Pablo Casas pcasa...@gmail.com wrote: ¿has anybody a freevo 1.9 on an later system? I know that some day I'll also have to upgrade my system too. I play with 2.0, but if someone has a patch for 1.9 I will add it to github. Regards, Dischi -- Please do not complain about the coffee. You'll be old and weak someday, too! -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo 2 installation
Hi, On 22.12.2014 23:29, Pablo Casas wrote: This is a little manual for users like me who just want to install and test freevo2. The manual is in html, with 3 images. To see this manual, put all the attachments together into a folder and launch the html file. Just one small comment: to keep up-to-date without downloading the master over and over, install git and clone all needed repositories. After that a simple 'git pull' will give you the updates. Regards, Dischi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Freevo 2 installation (was: Re: Mplayer and Debian)
Hi, yes, the list of dependencies is not short. Maybe each package should write its dependencies down somewhere. A small note: tvserver-master is not used. I played with tvheadend as TV backend. kaa-epg-master is also not needed right now (TV backend broken) kaa-popcorn-master is also not needed, the player is in kaa.candy kaa-display is only used for the mplayer video backend. No idea if this is still working, gstreamer works well for me. So you also do not need it. It should also work without the clutter-dev packages. There are gir packages in Ubuntu. But you have it running. If you have an android phone, activate the webserver and the jsonrpc plugin and download yatse. Autodetection would work, but if you add the data manually you have a nice remote. Regards, Dischi -- Life is complex, it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Mplayer and Debian
Hi, On 20.12.2014 21:01, Pablo Casas wrote: I tryed to setup a freevo2 on a virtual machine, but I couldn't get it to work. What is the problem? Commands and Games are not working yet, but the Video, Music, Photo stuff does and is real fun with web metadata and an android XBMC remote. Regards, Dischi -- Mustrum Ridcully did a lot for rare species. For one thing, he kept them rare. -- (Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies) -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Android remote for Freevo 2.0
Hi, as I said, Freevo is only sleeping and not dead. :) I played with XBMC some weeks ago and while I still prefer Freevo over XBMC I kind of miss a good Android remote control. My idea was to write one, but there are apps for XBMC out there looking better than anything I could do. Therefore, I added jsonrpc support for Freevo 2.0 to make look Freevo like XBMC for these remotes. The jsonrpc plugin was just pushed to github. Limitations: - Only tested with yatse on Android - Supports basic navigation - Only the video player is detected as activate player - Only the TV Show database works kaa.webmetadata is required to get information and images. Regards, Dischi -- Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups -- alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat. -- Alex Levine -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Small gstreamer update
Hi, in case someone wants to play with Freevo 2.0, I just made a small update to kaa.candy to make it work with the current version of clutter-gst and gstreamer. The file is gstreamer2.py in kaa.candy. It is not finished (e.g. seeking does not work) but it is a start. This plugin should also support DVD playback in the future. Like always: patches welcome. Regards, Dischi -- All bombs with electronic timing devices are fitted with large red readouts so you know exactly when they're going to go off. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, On 17.02.2014 20:58, Valerii Koval wrote: Can you do me a favor and point me on some short guide/piece of text from what I can start? Get the 2.0 source code from github as well as all kaa modules. On install the modules will tell you about their additional requirements. And, to not waste of my time please update me with a short review of mandatory features: recorder (I have mpeg2 TV card) Not integrated. The idea is to the tvheadend. video player (any formats) Works. Ether mplayer or gstreamer photo show Works tv guide viewer + setter to record Again, no TV support yet. USB (the Windows OS keys should be remapped) RC configuration. Works Regards, Dischi -- Obviously the only rational solution to your problem is suicide. -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, this is an answer to all the mails regarding this subject on the lists. Thanks for the mails to show that there are still people using Freevo. Besides DLNA und XBMC, Freevo is still a good compromise between simple and usefull. Keep using Freevo, maybe send patches :) I may have not enough time for Freevo hacking, expressially stuff I do not need, but I have time to accept patches. Regarding Freevo 2.0, I know that it lacks documentation and why should you change from 1.x if your current setup is working. Well, I cannot answer that :) Just try it out. It works great for me. Freevo.org has moved to a different server using other websites as well. The php stuff is now replaced be static pages, the Wiki is saved as static pages as well. I have a backup of the SVN, the Wiki source and the old homepage. So nothing is lost ... well except the 2.0 Wiki which was too outdated and more a confusion that real help. My mail wasn't a good bye :) It is only a facing-the-facts. The project is not dead, it is only sleeping. Regards, Dischi -- The opinions above are solely those of a 12 year old hacker who has broken into my account, and not those of my employer or any other organization. -- Android apps run on BlackBerry 10 Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps. Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more. Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience. Start now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, On 20.01.2014 23:02, Tuomas Tonteri wrote: I used Freevo 1.x for years as HTPC only letting it go a year or two ago as I didn't anymore need any multimedia center. As it worked great, I had no reason to upgrade to anything else including Freevo 2. I'm happy that there are still Freevo 1.x users here. Anyway, about the server shutdown: - Will the freevo web page (http://freevo.sourceforge.net/index.php) still remain? Yes. Only the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. The SVN should be no problem, the code already is on github. https://github.com/freevo/freevo1 I also do see no reason to terminate the Sourceforge part of the project. Therefore, website and mailing lists still remain. I will also keep freevo.org registered so http://www.freevo.org will continue to redirect to SF using a different webserver I share with friends. Regards, Dischi -- Don't play stupid with me - I'm better at it! -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] The future of Freevo(.org)
Hi, I have no idea how many people still read this list, how many people still use Freevo 1.x, and how many people use 2.0 from git (I guess that is only me). I failed to get a release of Freevo 2 out. I changed too much, a complete rewrite and some parts are also written three or four times. My fault, I know -- an error made years ago and when noticed, it was too late to change it. And since I started a new job four years ago my time working on Freevo got smaller and smaller every month. Jason also is completely busy with his job. I still say Freevo 2 is ready to use, but I will not release it. I'm not sure it works with the latest clutter or gstreamer, I only know it works for me. It lacks many important features such as DVD playback (I have a BluRay Player) and TV recording. I do not need it and I don't have time to code it. Besides that, XBMC has a much bigger community, UPnP is enough for many people (even I use NAS + BubbleUPnP + TV sometimes) and new development such as Chromecast will reduce Freevo's usefulness even further. I will continue to use Freevo 2, I may even write an Android client for it (after learning Python with Freevo which was useful for getting my current job, hacking Android is a good next step), but I see no real future for Freevo without a live community and more people hacking code. If someone contributes something, I will add it. If someone needs help to get Freevo 2 running, I will provide it. Since we also lack someone maintaining the server we host and I do not want to pay for something we don't need, I will shut it down at the end of February. This means the SVN and the Wiki will be gone. If someone wants a backup of the Wiki please tell me. The code is already on github and will remain there. The mailing list on SF will continue and so will the mail server hosting freevo.org and all mail addresses will continue to be valid. Maybe after some time someone resurrects Freevo. I would love to pass the maintainership over to someone just as I took it over from Krister years ago. Maybe someone takes the kaa-stuff and writes something new and better. I'm happy to assist and I think the same is true for Jason. Maybe I will release something someday based on the current code. It was a great time, I learned a lot and it was much fun. Regards, Dischi -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo Wiki back up
Hi, looks like we could rescue everything from the broken disk. The WiKi is up again. For 2.0 I plan a WiKi somewhere else to start from scratch so the WiKi will die when 2.0 is finally out (it is usable BTW). Regards, Dischi -- Communism is man's exploitation of man. Capitalism is just the opposite. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Freevo Wiki and old SVN shut down
Hi, we talked about this some time ago: the SVN is outdated and already moved to github and the wiki should also move. Now this day has come. But not as expected. FAQ: Why today? -- Simple: we had a HD crash on the server where freevo.org was hosted. The HD has to be changed. Is there no backup? --- Sure we have a backup. I automatically made backups to another virtal machine. When everything was set up, this was on a different host. After a host update, both virtual machines now are/were on the same host and with my bad luck, both share(d) the same HD. :( What does it mean for Freevo? - First of all: the code is save! We moved to github long ago. The website is on sf, the mailserver is on a RAID-1. Only the Wiki is gone. Unless Jason has a backup on his own, we cannot recreate the Wiki. Sorry about that. Regards, Dischi -- Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] can't control freevo while watching movies
Hi, On 06/29/2013 01:16 PM, Alberto Hernando wrote: I recently upgraded my debian box to wheezy, and then I was forced to reinstall freevo and mplayer. I had to go to python-2.7 and freevo-git. Well, everything installed fine, more or less, and I managed to make freevo run again (btw, I had to remove the FULLSCREEN option and I didn't see it documented anywhere). Now, when I watch movies, I lose control. Both lirc and keyboard stop working. since you use Freevo from git, Freevo 1.x or 2.x? Regards, Dischi -- Evolution doesn't take prisoners -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Hi, On 06/05/2013 03:26 AM, Jim Duda wrote: On 06/01/2013 03:20 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: Hi, On 06/01/2013 02:53 AM, Jim Duda wrote: I removed the display directory. But now mplayer is looking for display. I wish I could be more helpful here... That is expected, but it shouldn't matter for just starting the simple.py. It still crashes? ERROR candy:__init__(45): unable to import mplayer: No module named display INFO candy:main(97): imp name:candy filename: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa/candy/backend/widgets WARNING candy:main(127): sync took 0.0357 sec INFO candy:main(92): imp path:/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa/candy/backend/player In kaa-candy/src/backend/player/mplayer.py, we have this: # kaa.display for mplayer to draw to import kaa.display Is this the problem? kaa.dispaly is not referenced until do_play method. Yes, try to remove the line and see what is happening. If it still crashes, than I guess your clutter version is too old. Clutter changed a lot the last years. Regards, Dischi -- Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups -- alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat. -- Alex Levine -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Hi, On 06/01/2013 02:53 AM, Jim Duda wrote: I removed the display directory. But now mplayer is looking for display. I wish I could be more helpful here... That is expected, but it shouldn't matter for just starting the simple.py. It still crashes? ERROR candy:__init__(45): unable to import mplayer: No module named display INFO candy:main(97): imp name:candy filename: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa/candy/backend/widgets WARNING candy:main(127): sync took 0.0357 sec INFO candy:main(92): imp path:/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa/candy/backend/player That is still the last line you see? Can you increase the debug with print in backend/player to see where the problem is? I don't understand what's going on here. Regards, Dischi -- The 50-50-90 rule: Any time you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Sorry for the long delay with my answer On 05/23/2013 02:24 AM, Jim Duda wrote: Um, I honestly don't know how to do an uninstall. I've never done this before. I tried python setup.py --help-commands but no obvious uninstall or removal options, just install. How do I remove kaa-display? You should have everything in something similar to /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa (maybe lib64 or maybe a different Python version). Just delete the display subdirectory. BTW, what distro are you using? Ubuntu 12.04 LTS IIRC there was a bug in clutter with that version with gstreamer. But it should work with the basic simple.py. But I updated the code since I used 12.04. The problem may be, that clutter, the lib I use to draw the GUI wasn't finished at that time and had some bugs. Regards, Dischi -- I get to go to lots of overseas places, like Canada. - Britney Spears -- Introducing AppDynamics Lite, a free troubleshooting tool for Java/.NET Get 100% visibility into your production application - at no cost. Code-level diagnostics for performance bottlenecks with 2% overhead Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap1 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Hi, On 05/19/2013 12:33 AM, Jim Duda wrote: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.7/logging/__init__.py, line 846, in emit msg = self.format(record) File /usr/lib/python2.7/logging/__init__.py, line 723, in format return fmt.format(record) File /usr/lib/python2.7/logging/__init__.py, line 464, in format record.message = record.getMessage() File /usr/lib/python2.7/logging/__init__.py, line 328, in getMessage msg = msg % self.args TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting Logged from file main.py, line 97 I do not see any log call in line 97. I guess, it is because you added additional lines for your debug. But all the debug looks good. Maybe you added some debug in this line which is broken? INFO candy:main(92): imp path:/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa/candy/backend/player Fatal Python error: (pygame parachute) Segmentation Fault I wonder what pygame is doing here? Ah, I guess it is kaa.display having SDL support (which I guess nobody is usinf anymore). Can you remove the kaa.display installation just to be sure it is not breaking anything? For my list I already have: 1. Add a flag to increase debugging to avoid such long mail threads 2. Check why the xrandr stuff (x11.py) is crashing your system 3. Cleanup kaa.display -- maybe move the two files I need to kaa.candy BTW, what distro are you using? Regards, Dischi -- All bombs with electronic timing devices are fitted with large red readouts so you know exactly when they're going to go off. -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Hi, On 05/16/2013 01:55 AM, Jim Duda wrote: INFO candy:utils(503): Before mod: video 2013-05-15 19:54:21,544 [ERROR] stage(164): backend error, restarting 2013-05-15 19:54:21,547 [ERROR] async(552): Unhandled InProgress exception: Ah, now I think I have an idea. Can you go deeper? src/backend/video.py is importing x11.py. Can you remove this import and the two lines in the file using it (setting the resolution with xrandr)? My guess is that the ctypes stuff does not work for you. We are getting very close. Regards, Dischi -- Alcohol doesn't solve any problem...but fuck it neither does milk -- A wise man? -- AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Hi, On 05/15/2013 01:55 AM, Jim Duda wrote: I don't get past sys.modules call in imp I have to add some more debug in kaa.candy to avoid this is in the future, but for now your debugging has to do. INFO candy:main(92): imp path:/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa/candy/backend/widgets Next step: edit kaa/base/sr/utils.py function get_plugins and add a print before and after __import__ to see which file causes the problem. Thanks for debugging this. Dischi -- Sorry - yesterday was the deadline for all complaints. -- AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Hi, On 05/10/2013 03:39 AM, Jim Duda wrote: Do I need to worry about flushing out or deleting some left over config file from running freevo1.x? Freevo 2.0 has its own config file. A side-by-side installation with Freevo 1.x should work. jim freevo2 WARNING config(1297): 'Group' object has no attribute 'command': plugin.shutdown.command.halt = default: shutdown -h now WARNING config(1297): 'Group' object has no attribute 'command': plugin.shutdown.command.restart = default: shutdown -h now WARNING config(1297): 'Config' object has no attribute 'player': player.preferred = default: mplayer [...] Before you fixed your install script you had an older Freevo config which created default entries no longer valid. If you open the freevo2.conf you see a list of entries no longer valid at the end of the file. You can just delete them. ERROR core(67): unable to evaluate menu ERROR core(67): unable to evaluate menu I see the same error. Strange, but since it works for me, it should be no problem. ERROR candy:importer(51): Could not find any typelib for ClutterGst ERROR candy:importer(51): Could not find any typelib for ClutterGst Strange. OK, first of all, you are missing the gir-bindings for the clutter gstreamer bindings. But that shouldn't be a problem. I'm missing the line player gstreamer disabled after that. ERROR io(770): some error Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa/base/io.py, line 756, in _handle_read data = self._read(self._chunk_size) File /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/kaa/base/sockets.py, line 708, in _read return self._channel.recv(size) Now the display process is dead. Without any further message. That is very strange. So it looks like it is crashing during player import. It shows the error that you miss clutter gstreamer and does not print the other message. This could mean that it crashes during mplayer import. And crash meaning a segfault in the C-bindings. To skip this for now, please a. Install ClutterGst gir-bindings b. Remove mplayer.py from kaa/candy/backend/player c. Set debug=True in your Freevo 2 config To test something simpler, can you start simple.py in the kaa.candy test directory? Where do you live? Maybe we could schedule a meeting in the Freevo IRC channel. This would make debugging much easier. Regards, Dischi -- Common Sense is very Uncommon. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Hi, On 05/09/2013 01:47 AM, Jim Duda wrote: I have updated to the latest git and installed all of the requirements. I did a git pull on my freevo2 git sandbox. I then did sudo python setup.py install. I now run freevo2 and I get: jim /usr/local/bin/freevo2 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/freevo2, line 69, in module logging.add_stdout_handler() AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'add_stdout_handler' What might I be missing? Do you have kaa.base from git? The function is newer than the latest kaa.base release. The function in question should be in logger,py in kaa.base. Regards, Dischi -- The best things in life aren't things. -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. This 200-page book is written by three acclaimed leaders in the field. The early access version is available now. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/neotech_d2d_may ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
On 05/04/2013 03:17 AM, Jim Duda wrote: On 05/01/2013 05:51 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: Hi, Freevo 2.0 has most features needed for a new release (finally). Some small stuff is still on my TODO list. One major point is an Android remote control. I have a basic web-based control, but an Andoid app with more features would be very nice to have. Is there an Android developer here somewhere? I might be able to handle that. I've actually been thinking about writing an android remote control app for freevo1.x. Cool. If you need help installing 2.0 please ask on this list. Requirements: kaa.base kaa.metadata kaa.imlib2 kaa.beacon kaa.candy - Clutter, ClutterGst and their GIR bindings - Optional: kaa.display and mplayer kaa.webmetadata (optional) It has less plugins as 1.x but I consider it stable. The API also won't change anymore (except how to control it remotely, we will work on this together). One problem: DVD playback is kind of broken. What is the API interface for this android App? A network socket? I wrote a small plugin as webserver + a HTML page + JQuery to control Freevo with my tablet using the browser. I would like to have one control interface for web and Android (maybe also Apple devices, bit I have none). So the interface is a HTTP call to get information using JSON and to send events. Please tell how you would like the interface to work. Currently you can ask Freevo want it is doing (HTTP REST). For a menu you get a list of all items and an ID (JSON). If you provide the same ID again when asking again for Freevo is doing the call will block until Freevo changes (new menu, playback, etc) or a timeout when you have to call again. It is very simple. As a first draft we could work with that. For the future I'm thinking of a query interface and other nice features. If you need anything like more REST calls or more information in the JSON return please contact me. I only wrote a small set of features to get the website working. On thing on my TODO list is a call to get the list of all possible events in the current state. I'm not sure how to do that, but I will figure it out. Regards, Dischi -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Android Developer Wanted
Hi, Freevo 2.0 has most features needed for a new release (finally). Some small stuff is still on my TODO list. One major point is an Android remote control. I have a basic web-based control, but an Andoid app with more features would be very nice to have. Is there an Android developer here somewhere? Regards, Dischi -- Computers follow your orders, not your intentions. -- Introducing AppDynamics Lite, a free troubleshooting tool for Java/.NET Get 100% visibility into your production application - at no cost. Code-level diagnostics for performance bottlenecks with 2% overhead Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap1 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] [OT] Motherboard to use with freevo
Hi, On 17.01.2013 18:21, Jason Tackaberry wrote: On 13-01-13 06:02 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: No PCI Slots! I use the internal GPU and the CPU for video decoding (more than enough for H.264 1080p). For digital audio out you may need a small extension for koax out (I already had that from my prev. board). You mean you can't do /any/ HDMI audio with Intel on Linux, let alone 8 channel LPCM? I have not tried :) My receiver is old and has no HDMI support. When listening to Music, I do not want to use the TV and use the web controll using my Android tablet. With the TV powered off and the receiver only supporting SPDIF, I never tried HDMI audio out. Unfortunately I don't think MPlayer supports HD audio bitstreaming yet. (XBMC does.) But if that's important to you, now or in the future, I don't think Intel graphics will get you there. What about gstreamer? I use gstreamer in Freevo 2 as default player and I'm very happy with it. It does not support any direct output alone, but makes use of pulseaudio. If pulseaudio supports it so does gstreamer. Dischi -- Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] [OT] Motherboard to use with freevo
Hi, On 01/12/2013 06:16 PM, Leandro Noferini wrote: Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org writes: I skipped the fanless idea I use a small mini-itx board with core i5 and a quite cpu fan + a 12mm case fan powered with only 7V. I can't hear it. What motherboard are you using? http://www.asus.de/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8H77I/ MB: Asus P8H77-I CPU: Core i3 2125 Fan: Scythe Shuriken Rev.2 No PCI Slots! I use the internal GPU and the CPU for video decoding (more than enough for H.264 1080p). For digital audio out you may need a small extension for koax out (I already had that from my prev. board). -- Whoever coined the phrase Quiet as a mouse has never stepped on one. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] [OT] Motherboard to use with freevo
Hi, I skipped the fanless idea I use a small mini-itx board with core i5 and a quite cpu fan + a 12mm case fan powered with only 7V. I can't hear it. Dischi -- None of the ideas expressed above are actually mine. They are told to me by Luthor and Ferdinand, the five inch tall space aliens who live under my desk. In return for these ideas, I have given them permission to eat any dust bunnies they may find under there. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Wiki Spam
I have problems loggin in right now and need Tack to fix it. I will add you as sson as I have access again On 01/06/2013 01:48 AM, Liz wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:33:42 +0200 Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, I updated the BadContent file, added a captcha ... nothing helps. Our wiki gets spam every day and I don't like that the only change is my or Jason reverting spam. Therefore, there is no write access anymore except for users I allow. :( The good news: I will grand this to everyone, just ask by sending me a mail. Send me a mail with your wiki username and you get permission. Sorry, but I don't see another way, Dischi Dischi can I have wiki edit privileges? DrLizAu, Freevo user about 6 or 7 years -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- I am a friend of the working man, and I would rather be his friend than be one. -- Clarence Darrow -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Raspberry Pi
Hi, On 21.06.2012 06:07, Morten Nilsen wrote: Am I reading you right that Freevo 2 isn't in a usable state at this time? Define usable. The video and audio player work. My next task is to update kaa.beacon to DeviceKit and make DVD playback work again (expect this to be working in one week, I'm in hacking mood right now). The image viewer is kind of broken. It works but it is ugly and slow. This will be fixed in about two weeks later. The TV part is completly broken and I have so much on my TODO list that it is very unlikely that I will fix it soon. Sorry if it seems like a stupid question, but I haven't touched freevo for 3 or 4 years now.. I guess this is true for most people. I guess I'm the only one using the latest Freevo based on clutter with animations and even drawing on a gstreamer texture. Back to Raspberry Pi: I don't think it will work yet but there is nothing I can do. When clutter and gstreamer work Freevo will do, too. Regards, Dischi -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Freevo development moved to GitHub
Hi everyone, similar to Kaa, Freevo moved to github. The old svn server is still available but is read-only. You can now find Freevo 1.x, Freevo 2, the Freevo 2 TV server and all Kaa modules at https://github.com/freevo/ If you want to help us developing Freevo 1, Freevo 2 or any Kaa module please clone the git repository and send us a pull request. Note: I'm still new to git, so it may take a while until I figure our what to do. :) Regards, Dischi -- I don't do drugs anymore 'cause I find I get the same effect just by standing up really fast. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] 3D Videos
Hi, does anyone know how to tell a TV to switch into 3D mode? I BluRay Player can do this, so it has to be part of the HDMI spec. Does someone know a command line tool to do this? Regards, Dischi -- Thunder rolled. ... It rolled a six. -- (Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!) -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Really too slow to show photo
Hi, On 11/02/2011 02:37 PM, Maciej Urbaniak wrote: Strange that this has not been fixed yet. I have noticed this behaviour some time ago (when I upgraded to 1.9.x). Jason or Dischi, any chance to get this fixed, once and for all? I'd attempt to have a look at this myself but I know nothing of kaa really :-( From what I have read here, the problem are large image files. Well, imlib2 has to read them and IMHO imlib2 isn't slow. About memory usage: imlib2 has an internal cache. I have no idea what happens between kaa.imlib2 and Freevo 1.9. Maybe the bottleneck is somewhere else. For Freevo 2.0 clutter is reading the image files directly -- this is the fastest way it could get and it still takes around 1 second for large image files. Dischi -- Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] How should Freevo 2.0 look like?
Hi, On 27.09.2011 00:12, John Molohan wrote: I know there was some movement on this in the past and a very rough config editor was built into the web server but if someone could take up that challenge it would be a big plus. You wouldn't need detailed knowledge of Freevo's code. Just enough python to parse and write the config file, maybe split it into multiple smaller configs each focusing on one area for e.g. TV config, audio, games etc. I'm sure the other developers would have some pointers on how best to approach this. Freevo 2.0 does not have a working web server, yet, but we do have a generic config parser that can read and write the config file, supports different categories (tv, video, audio, etc) and already includes a small doc string for each entry. Dischi -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] How should Freevo 2.0 look like?
Hi, I'm done with the GUI changes and the new gui engine is good to go. It may need sme updates depending on how the GUI should look like. I can code, but I'm a very poor designer. So again, I ask for help: 1. I need some large background images. Should they be dark? Blue? Special images for video/audio/image? If we use special images, nly in the main menu? Please search the net, your photo collection or whatever to provide me with images. Please make sure the images can be used in Freevo (e.g. CC licence) and do not copy images from XBMC, etc. 2. How to layout the menu? Special movie/tv related backgrounds? Special images? Freevo could auto-hook into thetvdb and themoviedb to download these images and additional information. Please give me a fake screenshot so I can code the stuff. This is a big show-stopper for Freevo 2.0. Right now it looks ugly because I just used some old images and ideas to changed them to test different layouts. Without help, there will be no 2.0 :( Regards, Dischi -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Feature request: Allow kaa.metadata.parse to take File object as input
Hi, On 08/26/2011 07:07 PM, Leo Barnes wrote: kaa.metadata.parse expects a filename as input, which is pretty cumbersome for me since this requires me to unpack a part of the movie in a temp-file and use this as input. This is quite inefficient since the rarfile module can create a File object that allows direct reading of a file contained in the rar-file. After looking through metadata.parse, it seems that a File-like object is created from the filename in any case, so changing parse so that it can accept a File object should't be very hard. Added in SVN Dischi -- An aquarium is just interactive television for cats. -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, On 07/17/2011 11:47 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: please read this if you are a Freebo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. Sadly, I did not get the response I was hoping for. I cannot code everything myself, my time is limited. The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. I now have one Freevo-hacking day in my calender each week which may be dropped if the weather is too good but it is there and I plan to use it. I started changing the internals of kaa.candy which is close to be done. I still have some problems, but I hope to figure it out. 8. kaa.popcorn (or video player) needs clutter support to write on a texture. This would enable us to draw on top of the video and put it on the background. Again: help needed here. we could either put the mplayer output on a texture or use gstreamer. Jason played with the first option but the code is not finished yet. Jason: do you think you can finish it? Others: do you want to help here? You need to understand kaa.base and kaa.popcorn (which you could change to your needs). Besides that, mplayer and/or gstreamer. The mplayer integration would also require C and clutter knowledge. The gstreamer integration needs pygstreamer. And we need to figure out how to integrate it with kaa.candy and the Freevo core. That would be my task. This is my biggest problem. The current code just starts mplayer. No real DVD support, no overlay. If nobody steps in, this will stay that way. :( 10. I have no time to work on TV support. I need help on working on the TV server, the TV devices (e.g. dvbstreamer), the EPG, etc. This is one of the major tasks I want to assign a new maintainer. No TV support from me 11. There is not webserver for Freevo 2.0. Anyone willing to take over this part? You have complete control what you want to do. I guess you have to know your HTML/CSS/JS-fu. 12. Android / iPhone support? Not needed but nice to have Nice to have, but I have no time. But IMHO this is not urgent. 14. It has been 2 or 3 years since I last asked for donations and I am paying for the server and the domain on my own since the money run out. It is only 11 EUR/month but it would be nice if some of you would help me out here. You can use paypal and dis...@freevo.org for donations. I git two donations, one very generous. But these do not even cover the last years. Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. Anyone? If I have to do it myself, Freevo 2.0 will stay the way it is right now only with a changed GUI backend and some bugs fixed. That would be sad. Dischi -- Time is a drug. Too much of it kills you. -- in Small Gods (Terry Pratchett) -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, On 22.07.2011 22:02, Paul wrote: Like many have said here already the thing that sets Freevo apart for me is its endless configurability, if there's anything I don't like or don't need I can more often than not remove it or change it without having to have vast amounts of geek knowledge. Nice to hear. Yes, that was one plan, to make it possible using plugins to plug in everywhere you want and since it is python code, it is easy to remove/add stuff. I haven't looked at Freevo 2 yet either but, to echo others' comments, I hope it retains the ease of configuration and customisation that make its predecessor so unique. Even better ;) Dischi -- I believe no problem is so large or so difficult that it can't be blamed on somebody else. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, On 19.07.2011 23:43, Andreas Dick wrote: Hei Dischi great to hear that freevo 2 is back on the road! For me, the main plus of freevo 1.x is the simple plugin API... and the powerfull configuration options. Is there allready a plan, how the plugins can be used/reused in freevo 2? is there a new API or just copy and past of the old ones? The basic concept with menus, items and stuff like that is identical, but the API is different, it is more powerfull. Plugins cannot just be used from Freevo 1.9, but porting them should not be too hard if they only use the menu. Plugins using the GUI directly (e.g. the idlebar) may need more work. Dischi -- Drugs cause amnesia and other things I can't remember... -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, I will split my answer into serveral post. Details for kaa.popcorn and kaa.candy only to the devel list. On 21.07.2011 03:57, Jason Tackaberry wrote: On 11-07-17 05:47 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: I tried XBMC some days ago and while it looks very nice, it forces me to organize my media collection in a way I don't want to and has some usability issues (IMHO). Therefore, I still need Freevo. :) You know it's funny you say that, because after finally upgrading the OS on my HTPC -- I had an uptime of 380+ days and I was reluctant to reboot :) -- I also decided to try XBMC. :) Someone else complained that configuring it was difficult, but I didn't find that at all. It ran immediately after installation and configuration was fairly straightforward via the GUI (modulo lirc). Same here -- modulo lcd. It's certainly overall better than the mishmash of half-baked prototypes I was using before. But yes, I did have some usability issues (e.g. library required way too much handholding, requiring manual library scanning after adding or deleting content) Yes, IMHO kaa.beacon is much better here. The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. Yes, this is the fate of many small open source projects: developers eventually get carriers and/or lives and progress atrophies. I wish I had the motivation and energy I had when I was 20. :) Yes. But I think one Freevo hacking evening a week is possible. I'm very motivated after the XBMC test. Especially an M2TS parser. This is one of the bigger gaps in kaa.metadata right now. This would be a great, focused little project for someone looking to contribute. Adding parsers to kaa.metadata is quite simple and you're not required to figure out how kaa.base or other big chunks of code works. All you need to do is read the ISO 13818-1 spec. *cough* :) That is something we need, but it is not on my TODO list right now. 5. kaa.candy has the basics, but may need some nice effects like mirror-effect, better animations, etc. It has everything we need to make Freevo 2.0 work but it could be nicer. If you know C (Python not needed) and want to play with clutter or if you now Python and want to dive into kaa.candy, drop me a note. You only need to know kaa.base and clutter as dependency. I think we should seriously revisit kaa.candy now. clutter has come a long way since we looked at it last, and it now includes containers and layout managers, and lots of new effects and animations, which is a lot of what kaa.candy aimed to add. We should gut what's no longer necessary in kaa.candy and stay as tight to clutter as possible. Agreed. I will start a new posting here about changes in kaa.candy. But this won't delay Freevo 2.0 plugin development. If you do not need the idlebar, Freevo 2.0 is ready. And the GUI code is separented, it is not much work to replace it. 6. XBMC looks s cool. The big background images, the animations. Nice! We do have the code in Freevo 2.0 to do the same (even support to grab TV show or movie specific wallpapers and images). Yeah, but a lot of the credit there really goes to the awesome contributors of thetvdb.com and themoviedb.org. I'm still amazed at the quality of the fan art. Yes. And we could just reuse this. My biggest use-case is that I do most of my file management on my NAS, and the HTPC just has an NFS mount to consume the media. My HTPC is where beacon would run, but because INotify doesn't work through NFS, beacon doesn't see the changes. We had some neat ideas about distributed beacon instances, but there are a couple simpler-to-implement options that I'm more likely to get to first: 1. An INotify reflector: a small process that just passes INotify events over RPC back to the beacon server 2. Have an option to periodically scan NFS mounts in addition to INotify. Currently (IIRC), polling is disabled if INotify is supported. #2 is easiest to implement by a long shot. It's not as elegant as it won't catch file moves, though. Again, not on my list right now. If someone wants to help, this is a good part. [kaa.popcorn stuff see other post] 11. There is not webserver for Freevo 2.0. Anyone willing to take over this part? You have complete control what you want to do. I guess you have to know your HTML/CSS/JS-fu. I'm also lately of the opinion that we need a web services API. RESTful is trendy, and it's usually very easy to work with, lowering the barrier to entry. But this is something we should not worry about until we have a stable and complete core. yes Dischi -- Bad spellers of the world Untie! -- Storage Efficiency Calculator This modeling tool is based on patent-pending intellectual property that has been used successfully in hundreds of IBM storage
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On 17.07.2011 12:19, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:47:46 +0200 Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. I'm not capable of coding or design but i've sent euros - that bit I can do. Thank you very much! Dischi -- Gee Brain, what are we going to do tonight? The same thing, we do every night, Pinky - try to take over the world! -- Pinky and the Brain -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, On 17.07.2011 16:29, Tuomas Tonteri wrote: I was wondering what is the place of Freevo 2.0 in the landscape of alternatives? What makes it unique from all the other HTPC software? There seems to be more competition here than there was five years ago. IMHO there is only one big new player: XBMC. Yes, there are others, but they are small, just like we are now. This from a very happy user of Freevo 1.X through its DirectFB backend. The best thing for me in Freevo (1) is the use of multiple separate programs, especially its use of mplayer. I do not want to change that. There are good video players and many good people working on them. We do not have the man power to build our own player and I don't want to. Just hook into mplayer and gstreamer and reuse their good work. Dischi -- Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi On 18.07.2011 15:42, Stephen Rowles wrote: On 17 July 2011 15:29, Tuomas Tonteri t...@tuomastonteri.fi mailto:t...@tuomastonteri.fi wrote: Hi, I was wondering what is the place of Freevo 2.0 in the landscape of alternatives? What makes it unique from all the other HTPC software? There seems to be more competition here than there was five years ago. This from a very happy user of Freevo 1.X through its DirectFB backend. The best thing for me in Freevo (1) is the use of multiple separate programs, especially its use of mplayer. XBMC looks very flash, but configuring and actually using it is a pain IMO. IMHO configuring it was easier than configuring Freevo. But I don't have everythng running, e.g. my LCD does not work with XBMC. But you only configure once, using it is the major part. And I think Freevo is better in that area: simpler! It's very much style over substance. I tried it for a bit but got fed up and went back to Freevo. Yes they've made it look nice but don't appear to have sat down to make the day to day use smooth (or least not out of the box). Agreed. It also doesn't have built in TV support which is the main thing I use Freevo 1.0 for. Without TV recording Freevo 2.0 is no use to me personally. Unforunately I don't know enough python/C or have enough hours in the day to offer help at the moment. I won't have time to work on the TV support, but since we already have it, I guess we can find someone porting what we have in 1.9 to 2.0 Dischi -- Disclaimer: the above is the author's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of his employer or of the little green men that have been following him all day. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi On 18.07.2011 16:32, Francisco Eduardo Álvarez Solano wrote: Without TV recording Freevo 2.0 is no use to me personally. Unforunately I don't know enough python/C or have enough hours in the day to offer help at the moment. Just as Freevo uses mplayer for music/movie playing, why cannot it use tvtime/vdr for watching/recording tv? I guess it should be easier to integrate both programs into freevo, in a similar way as mplayer, than reinventing the wheel. That is what I have in mind. I have the basic TV handling working but its code broke during some updates. Someone needs to fix it. The tvserver has extra processes called tv device to do the work. And these tv devices just use other programs without reinventing the wheel. There is an example in Freevo 2.0 using dvbstreamer as backend. I don't know enough Python or C either, but I do use vdr for tv recording, and I recall it from freevo main menu. Perhaps it wouldn't be difficult to achieve a closer integration. I do not know VDR well. Maybe. Dischi -- Don't read everything you believe. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On 19.07.2011 00:58, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:32:16 +0200 Francisco Eduardo Álvarez Solano franciscoe.alva...@gmail.com wrote: Just as Freevo uses mplayer for music/movie playing, why cannot it use tvtime/vdr for watching/recording tv? My TV signal is now DVB-T and incompatible with tvtime I guess we could have the following sources for recording: - tvtime for analog - dvbstreamer for DVB-T/C/S - gstreamer has generic backend Dischi -- The only problem with mornings is that they happen too early in the day. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi Adam, On 19.07.2011 20:47, Adam Charrett wrote: It seems that I'm not in the minority then (well not on this list anyway :-) ). I though about switching but having played with it the UI flow just doesn't work for me. I think my biggest dis-like was having to go all the way back to the top of a directory listing just to go up one directory level. Yes, that kind of sucks. It also has so much eye candy I do not need. We should a put the video I am playing into a small window or the background to go into another menu like weather? I've been having problems finding time to work on freevo recently Welcome to the club but my intention has been to look at this side of freevo 2 and see if I can't get it working with Freevo 1 initially, just to get the ball rolling, and then think about Freevo 2 and TV, That would be great. You are one of the two people I had in mind for the TV part. The other one is Soenke. The TV part is designed to even work without Freevo 2.0 itself -- well, you need some sort of interface, but a webserver or smartphone app would also be possible. Dischi, now done with answering all the mails :) -- Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups -- alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat. -- Alex Levine -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi everyone, please read this if you are a Freebo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. I tried XBMC some days ago and while it looks very nice, it forces me to organize my media collection in a way I don't want to and has some usability issues (IMHO). Therefore, I still need Freevo. :) The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. I now have one Freevo-hacking day in my calender each week which may be dropped if the weather is too good but it is there and I plan to use it. There are some minor issues I will fix no matter what happens. But I do not have the time to finish Freevo 2.0 to make it look and feel like I want. If you want to help in any way, please answer to this mail and we can discuss it. If you need help to start (like kaa.base help), feel free to ask. Jason and I can both answer your questions. Jason: I assign your name to some smaller stuff here, I hope it is OK. ;) Freevo Core: 1. kaa.base is done and has all the cool stuff I want. If there is a bug, Jason and I will take care of it. But it shouldn't be much. 2. kaa.metadata is also done. Maybe add or change a parser, but that is not important right now. Patches are always welcome. 3. kaa.imlib2 is also working as it should and it does not play a big role in the Freevo 2.0 core. 4. The Freevo core directory is also mostly done. There are some minor bugs in the playlist stuff but it should be easy to fix. The menu reload also has some problems I need to investigate. To summarize: the core is mostly done and the remaining points are on my TODO list and I will fix them. Now the bigger problems: GUI. The clutter-based GUI can do nice stuff but needs some more work. 5. kaa.candy has the basics, but may need some nice effects like mirror-effect, better animations, etc. It has everything we need to make Freevo 2.0 work but it could be nicer. If you know C (Python not needed) and want to play with clutter or if you now Python and want to dive into kaa.candy, drop me a note. You only need to know kaa.base and clutter as dependency. 6. XBMC looks s cool. The big background images, the animations. Nice! We do have the code in Freevo 2.0 to do the same (even support to grab TV show or movie specific wallpapers and images). I need help from a designer to make look Freevo even better. Can someone make a fake screenshot how Freevo should look like? Can someone provide nice wallpapers (CC licence)? This is one of the things I can not do myself. The GUI stuff needs help from you. C programmers, Python programmers and artists. Or if you cannot help with that, tell us what you want to have. Let's dive into the media plugins: 7. kaa.beacon is mostly done. I have some minor things on my list I will do the next weeks. The big problem is a better network support. Jason: we talked about distributed beacon servers. Do you still plan to do this? Do you still have time for it? 8. kaa.popcorn (or video player) needs clutter support to write on a texture. This would enable us to draw on top of the video and put it on the background. Again: help needed here. we could either put the mplayer output on a texture or use gstreamer. Jason played with the first option but the code is not finished yet. Jason: do you think you can finish it? Others: do you want to help here? You need to understand kaa.base and kaa.popcorn (which you could change to your needs). Besides that, mplayer and/or gstreamer. The mplayer integration would also require C and clutter knowledge. The gstreamer integration needs pygstreamer. And we need to figure out how to integrate it with kaa.candy and the Freevo core. That would be my task. 9. The image viewer could look nicer. If you want to help on this smaller part of Freevo, feel free to tell me. 10. I have no time to work on TV support. I need help on working on the TV server, the TV devices (e.g. dvbstreamer), the EPG, etc. This is one of the major tasks I want to assign a new maintainer. And something different: 11. There is not webserver for Freevo 2.0. Anyone willing to take over this part? You have complete control what you want to do. I guess you have to know your HTML/CSS/JS-fu. 12. Android / iPhone support? Not needed but nice to have 13. Port plugins from Freevo 1.9 to 2.0 And last but not least: 14. It has been 2 or 3 years since I last asked for donations and I am paying for the server and the domain on my own since the money run out. It is only 11 EUR/month but it would be nice if some of you would help me out here. You can use paypal and dis...@freevo.org for donations. Thank you. Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. Regards, Dischi
Re: [Freevo-users] Trying to run 1.9.2b2 on squeeze
Hi, On 30.04.2011 08:22, Adam Charrett wrote: You need a more recent version of kaa, I would suggest you try the svn version. Should I create a new set of releases for kaa.base, kaa.imlib2, kaa.display and kaa.metadata? Dischi -- WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] freevo/kaa test directory
Hi, On 16.01.2011 22:25, Dan Schmidt wrote: Is there a way to install kaa without touching the rest of my machine? I've waxed brave enough to try the beta version but, if I botch it up, I still need to use my Freevo. I was looking at: http://doc.freevo.org/SourceSVNInstallation Any help appreciated, thanks. dan@dan-desktop:~/kaa$ python setup.py install --prefix=/home/dan/freevo-test [setup] Entering kaa submodule base ERROR: detected conflicting files from a previous kaa.base version. To fix, you'll need to rm -rf the following directories: 1. build/ 2. /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/kaa/ Once you delete #2, you'll need to reinstall all the kaa sub-modules you use. #1 should be enough if you install using --prefix python setup.py install --prefix=/some/dir To use that version instead of the one in the system set PYTHONPATH Dischi -- Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] kaa.imlib2 regressions (was Re: more about images)
Hi, On 10.11.2010 17:20, Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 14:03 +, Adam Charrett wrote: I've copied the freevo-devel list for Jason to pick this up. Which I have, and committed a fix. Alberto, can you please give kaa.imlib2 from svn a try again and report back if you're still seeing any exceptions and in particular the high memory consumption? Also note that at least with kaa, Python 2.5+ is not only supported but required. (kaa.base no longer works with Python 2.4.) If the bug is fixed, remind me to release a new kaa.base, kaa.imlib2 and kaa.metadata when a new Freevo version comes out. And for the testers: please test the svn version of freevo with the svn version of kaa to find additional bugs. Dischi -- Take care to get what you like, otherwise you will be forced to like what you get. -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Wiki Spam Cleanup
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Re: [Freevo-users] What happened to tvcentric.com?
On 31.08.2010 11:42, Adam Charrett wrote: No idea what has happened to tvcentric but if you are interested in browsing the svn repo for freevo you should use http://svn.freevo.org/ as this has freevo-1, 2 and the kaa repos available for browsing. Cool. I did not know we have an SVN HTTP view. Thanks Jason. :) Dischi -- The Second Law of Thermodynamics: If you think things are in a mess now, just wait! -- Jim Warner -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] SVN/Web Downtime
Hi, Dirk Meyer wrote: the Freevo virtual machine where for svn and the wiki is running will move to a new server during this week. Once it is done, I will update the DNS record but it takes some time until all nameserver are changed. During that periode these services are unavailable. These periode is now. The virtual machine moved and the DNS extries are changed. I may take some hours until every nameserver has these changes. Dischi -- If you receive something that says 'Send this to everyone you know,' pretend you don't know me. (Roy Johnson) -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] SVN/Web Downtime
Hi, the Freevo virtual machine where for svn and the wiki is running will move to a new server during this week. Once it is done, I will update the DNS record but it takes some time until all nameserver are changed. During that periode these services are unavailable. Dischi -- multitasking = screwing up several things at once -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Frontend / Backend freevo setup (DVBStreamer)
Evan Hisey wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Stephen Rowles step...@rowles.org.uk wrote: However how do I setup dvbstreamer to run on the server and still allow me to watch live TV with live pause etc? Record files and media I can server over the network (I have 100meg switched to the lounge, so bandwidth shouldn't be a problem, cable is cat 6 so just waiting to upgrade to a gigabit switch sometime soon). Any help greatly appreciated :) This really a feature of the 2.x development branch. Currently not working, but yes, that is was design goal for 2.0. You can have several TV devices in your network, one TV server (scheduler), and several Freevo frontends. BTW, development for 2.0 is kind of slow these days. I plan to finish my PhD thesis in November. After that, I will resume coding on 2.0 Dischi -- A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from? -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] freevo and python 3.x
Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:47 -0500, Jonathan Isom wrote: I was wondering if anyone has used freevo with python3.1 yet? will it work or will just crash? I'm sure it won't work at all. The real question is will py2to3 produce something that works. I doubt it. :) And before we try: do our dependencies work with 3.1? I don't think so. Dischi -- According to my calculations the problem doesn't exist. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Motherboard with onboard HDMI
Shane W wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 05:21:24PM -0400, Jason Tackaberry wrote: I suspect you'll be fine, but you'll want to double check that the sound chipset is supported and your HDMI output is one of the supported MCP versions (currently 67, 73, 78, or 7A). (I suppose you consult google to find out.) The gigabyte board would be perfect but jees, 1 pci slot, that's craziness. Is it? What do you need for a media PC? TV cards: USB (as much cards as you like), Sound: onboard, graphic: onboard (and you would not like PCI anyway), network: onboard. Is there anything else? If there is: USB. Dischi -- If you receive something that says 'Send this to everyone you know,' pretend you don't know me. (Roy Johnson) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Freevo2.0 TvServer does it exist yet?
Hi, Bernard Mentink wrote: Just having a play with 2.0 and thought I would get TV working if I could. The wiki talks about the programs freevo-tvserver, freevo-tvdev and freevo-epg, but I can't find them anywhere The wiki is outdated, stuff changed. All these are now in the tvserver package. You do not need anything from freevo, only some kaa packages. Am I too bleeding-edge here? I wouldn't mind helping out with some coding if someone can point me in the right direction. Yes, you are :) I'm not sure the tvserver works since the latest kaa updates. It should, but I never tried it. OTOH last time I tried it was possible to schedule recordings with the 2.0 GUI, watching TV is not implemented. 1. Know what the status of TV is at present for 2.0 TV watching is not possible. The tvserver itself should be usable for scheduling a recording, favorites, etc. Live-TV is not done yet. Maybe smeone can help me out here. The good part of the current Freevo 2.0 design is that the tvserver does not require you to understand Freevo, only kaa.epg and kaa.base. 2. How to get it going. In particular DVB. DVB should work with the help of dvbstreamer. The tvserver has plugins. One is dvbstreamer, one is mplayer. Only dvb is working. 3. What still needs to be done. analog TV, the ability to stream live TV to a client (to watch it), better epg support. 4. I notice the lirc volume control does not work yet, or freevo full-screen. Are these works in progress too? Feel fee to fix the volume stuff. I do not need it since I use audio pass-through. The full-screen code will be fixed once we switch to the new gui code. There is a branch called candy, but it requires more love and a new video player kaa module. Dischi -- It's the same old story; boy meets beer, boy drinks beer... boy gets another beer. -- Cheers -- ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Kaa-diplay installation error
Duncan Webb wrote: Publicy wrote: This is what I've done but I've got the following error : setup.py:36: DeprecationWarning: The popen2 module is deprecated. Use the subprocess module. import popen2checking for X11 ... okchecking for imlib2 = 1.1.1 ... 1.4.2checking for pygame ... okchecking for pygame header files ... not installedchecking for XComposite ... no This is your problem XComposite is not installed. XComposite should be optional. Dischi -- According to my calculations the problem doesn't exist. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Announce: kaa.metadata 0.7.7
Hi, I released a new version of kaa.metadata today. Please ignore version 0.7.6 because it has a serious bug in the mp3 parser and update to 0.7.7 as soon as possible. Dischi -- A computer without Windows is like a chocolate cake without mustard. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] PRE-[ANNOUNCE] Release 1.8.4
Duncan Webb wrote: Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 17:38 +0200, Duncan Webb wrote: For some people the most important change is that Python-2.4 is no longer supported whereas Python-2.6 is now supported. I wonder if this change alone warrants a version upgrade to 1.9.0? There's an expectation that minor version bumps won't require significant platform changes. Good point, not sure what our strategy is over Python versions. 1.5.4 added support for Python-2.4 and 1.3.3 added support for Python-2.3 so it would seem not that important. IIRC the Python 2.4 support was the only change between 1.5.3 and 1.5.5 and was only a minor patch. Dischi -- Wash: This is gonna get pretty interesting. Mal: Define interesting. Wash: Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die? - Serenity (2005) -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Slightly OT: home automation - x10, zigbee, others?
Christophe Nowicki wrote: On Tuesday 28 April 2009 13:47:05 John Molohan wrote: I'm in Ireland so UK or Irish specific hardware info would be good. I know that UK price are cheaper, I live in France, with the power of Euro, I buy all my Home Automation items in UK ;-) And even more off-topic: if you live with the power of the Euro, buy DVDs at amazon.co.uk. Since it is EU, you do not have to pay customs. For everything below 25 EUR incl. shipping amazon.com is also a good idea since the dollar is also not what it used to be :) Funny side node: a bought the complete Flying Circus at amazon.co.uk last week, payed the low pound-price, and it was shipped from amazon.de. Dischi -- Linux vs. Windows is a no-WIN situation. -- Register Now Save for Velocity, the Web Performance Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] sqlite complaint from freevo2.
Frank W. Samuelson wrote: The answer is: the directory ~/.tvserver did not exist. Fixed in SVN now. Thanks. Dischi -- C.O.B.O.L - Completely Obsolete Boring Old Language. -- ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Playing Copy protected DVD
Duncan Webb wrote: IIRC this is a problem caused by the copy protection breaking libdvdread. I fixed this problem for this DVD by hacking libdvdread, there is a range check in the libdvdread code that causes it to abort reading the disk. The fix was to remove the range check, what I did was to keep the range check but just before the check was to set the the value to value = value % range. It then played fine. I rented a broken disc once: the DVD structure was broken and libdvdread was unable to read it, Windows had the same problem. I did not try anydvd; I did not wanted to make a copy, I wanted to watch it. It should have worked on a normal DVD player. I got my money back. Dischi -- Hello, you've reached the psychiatric hotline. If you are obsessive/compulsive, press 1 repeatedly. If you have multiple personalities, press 2, 3, 4, and 5. If you are simply paranoid, just stay on the line - we know who you are. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Handling usb foreign drives
Benedikt Bär wrote: So, he plugs it in and it shows up under 'external storage', and if he removes it, it disappears. Of course, I made sure the drive was mounted read-only, to insure nothing has to be synced. After all, freevo is for *viewing* the media, they don't even know linux is there behind the scenes doing all the hard work :P Freevo 2.0 will be able to do this ... only the read-only stuff is not implemented. :) Dischi -- Is that a 286 or are you just running Windows? -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] freevo 1.8 memory usage when viewing images
Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 10:55 +0100, Duncan Webb wrote: It should be a lot faster too, it takes quite a long time for imlib2 to process a large photo (3072x2048) about 1.5 secs on my P3 box which is a performance killer. beacon uses epeg (which is nowadays merged with evas, but beacon still has it split out), which is probably the fastest JPEG thumbnailer around. Beacon's epeg code is around 4 times faster than imlib2 (so my changelog says). And it looks even faster since beacon is doing all the stuff in the background and you do not have to wait. Dischi -- I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. -- Bjarne Stroustrup -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The big picture for freevo2
Frank W. Samuelson wrote: I have freevo2 installed, but I am not sure what to do with it now. :) Well, it is work-in-progress I am looking for an explanation of what the different components of freevo2 do and which ones I need configured and running where: mbus, freevo, freevo-tvserver, freevo-tvdev, freevo-epg, etc. The doc is old, the Freevo 2.0 does not have all these anymore. There should only be freevo and tvserver. For example, assume that I have 3 computers in my house, one of which has pchdtv dvb card and a large hard drive. If possible I would like to be able to watch tv, videos, music, etc, from all 3 machines, though not necessarily simultaneously. Yes and no. First the no: live-tv does not work right now. The tvserver can only record ATM. But besides that, yes. The tvserver runs on one machine in the house. If you have another TV card somewhere, this host should run the tvserver in slave mode (--no-scheduler). Thanks for any help. I know it is only a short answer. I don't have much time now and won't be able to write some better docs before the FOSDEM. I know, we need more doc what all this stuff is we have here. :) Dischi -- Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling everything. -- Karl Lehenbauer -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] FOSDEM 2009: Personal Media Networks
Hi, I would like to use the mailing lists to promote my talk at the FOSDEM 2009. It is loosely Freevo related and about what I think a personal media network should be like. If you are at the FOSDEM next weekend, you can find me in Room AW1.120 (the Jabber/XMPP DevRoom). My presentation starts at 16:00. In short: UPnP does not scale outside the home network. I want to schedule recordings from the outside, include Flickr into my media collection similar to local media and many other things. It should be an open standard, different media center implementations and desktop applications should be able to interact with each other. I hope to find some supporters of my vision in the open source community. I will implement it in Freevo 2.0, but it would be cool if others would join me. If you are a coder at MythTV, XBMC, or any media related Gnome or KDE project, I would love to discuss this with you. If you aren't and know someone who is, forward this mail :) Besides the media network, you can find me the whole Saturday in the XMPP DevRoom or nearby for chats about Freevo and other stuff. See you in Brussels, Dischi -- Don't trust reality. After all, it's only a collective hunch. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Hardware for Freevo 2
Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 13:23 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: I have problems getting vsync on my external monitor, but the clutter test app worked well with 1080p video. And, I forget, did you have GMA 900 or 950? Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub IIRC it is a 950 Dischi -- A mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Hardware for Freevo 2
Jason Tackaberry wrote: dischi I think owns a GMA 950 (or, perhaps older). He can comment on how, aside from the fragment program issue, that chipset otherwise performs with clutter. I have problems getting vsync on my external monitor, but the clutter test app worked well with 1080p video. However, I wouldn't at this point recommend you run out and buy anything until we have a chance to do some more testing. At some point, I'm going to whip up a benchmark program and ask the Freevo community to test on various hardware. This will give us a better idea what's workable and what isn't. Once clutter 0.9 is out such a test app would be a good idea. (Intel GMA X3000 on paper has the features, but the Linux driver has a history of sucking, so I don't know if it will work for us without testing.) They are getting better :) Dischi -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. 'No' is the answer! -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
liz dodd wrote: the old celeron did not have enough power to record and run the tuner, so the s-presso case is out of service. DVB or analog? A DVB recorder does not need much CPU power. I use an AMD Geode with 500 MHz and that is enough. If you want to record analog TV with mpeg an-the-fly you need more power. Dischi -- Computer analyst to programmer: You start coding. I'll go find out what they want. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Dirk Meyer wrote: iz dodd wrote: the old celeron did not have enough power to record and run the tuner, so the s-presso case is out of service. DVB or analog? A DVB recorder does not need much CPU power. I use an AMD Geode with 500 MHz and that is enough. If you want to record analog TV with mpeg an-the-fly you need more power. DVB I was trying to record and transcode and it just didn't happen went back to the bigger box and it ran sweetly it may have been memory trouble rather than cpu Transcode is the problem. I only record and store the TS. That does not require much CPU time. Dischi -- Freedom of speech is wonderful - right up there with the freedom not to listen. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 23:00 +, Andrew Flegg wrote: A $40 PCI card, which'll fit a low (CPU-)power Mini-ITX machine in a small case with room for only one or two PCI cards? PCI? No. If you have no free PCI-express slot, then clearly you can't upgrade easily. The alternative is a motherboard with a recent Intel GMA chipset, which we will also support. Right. I tried Jason's current video code with my Laptop which has on on-board Intel card. That works fine, 1080p keps my two cores busy, but it works. We're moving into the HD era. You need a more capable system to play HD content. If HD content doesn't interest you and UI eye candy, Freevo 1.x will continue to be available for as long as Duncan is motivated to work on it. Well, if you don't have HD content, Freevo 2.0 will work for you in most cases. You only need a 3D card for the eye candy. The small boxes have an Intel or Via chip inside. The Intel will work for you, I have no idea if the Via chips have 3D support or not. I hope Duncan will not support 1.x forever and join us on the 2.0 trunk once we have a 2.0pre1 or 2.0alhpa1 out. Supporting older hardware is a pain with increasingly diminishing returns. We have a nice video playback chain now, supporting old xv will tribble the code. We can do all the scaling, zooming, etc. for all players with the same clutter code. That is a huge step to simplify things. We won't support XV content, but there is no one to stop you from adding a patch to support at least one mplayer using xv (not using kaa.popcorn, integrated in Freevo directly). So I guess: if you have a 3D card (no matter what type of card), non-HD content will work for you. For HD content you need more CPU power for the video and some 3D cards may require additional CPU power for the colorspace conversion. Dischi -- Disc space -- the final frontier! -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Stephen Rowles wrote: I was thinking about one of the new Atom 330 (dual core) motherboards as these are supposed to be able to handle 720p and some 1080p content with the latest playback drivers, but the graphics card is a very old GMA 950, would you expect that sort of system to cope with Freevo 2? I guess so. There are four choices: 1. You have a gxf card without 3D support. You are out, Freevo 2.0 will not work for you unless you code support for a new video out. 2. You have a gfx card that does not support hardware colorspace conversion and has no shader support in the GPU. That means we have to do the colorspace conversion in the CPU. If you have a dual core, that should work. One core will decode the video, the other one will do the colorspace conversion. I don't know how the Atom supports 1080p. Windows decoder use both cores for the task while ffmpeg's decoder only uses one in most cases. If 1080p works on Linux, I guess Freevo 2.0 will do, too. 3. You have a gfx card that supports shaders but has no hardware colorspace conversion. We can use the shader to do this. So the work will be done in the GPU if the CPU is not powerfull enough. 4. The gxf card supports hardware colorspace conversion: everything is perfect. I would expect an atom system to be a very popular choice for a media centre hardware, I think so, too. My test platform is a Core Duo 1.7GHz ULV laptop with an 945GM gxf chip. This platform falls under (2). The player uses one core to decode the video and the second one is used for the colorspace conversion. And there is still CPU power left. I wonder why the Atom boards use the GMA 950? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA The board from Intel uses this chip. Aren't there any better boards? Dischi -- Atheism: A non-prophet organization. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Morten Lied Johansen wrote: Dirk Meyer wrote: Morten Lied Johansen wrote: I'm running Freevo using FB (uvesafb I think, been a while since I checked the actual config), simply because I couldn't figure out how to configure it any other way (and get it to work). :) What gfx card to you have? If I recall correctly, that machine has a Nvidia GeForce4 MX 440. That should work with X Dischi -- Customer: I'm running Windows '98 Tech: Yes. Customer: My computer isn't working now. Tech: Yes, you said that. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
liz dodd wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2009 8:05:09 pm Stephen Rowles wrote: Now I have a VERY low profile case (40mm hight clearance internally) and only space for 1 card... now as that slot will probably be a 2 tuner tv card, my new tv tuner is just an oversized usb stick in size and is no trouble out of the box Same here. My record server is a low powered AMD Geode with an external DVB tuner and an external HD. Works great. Dischi -- Overflow on /dev/null, please empty the bit bucket. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 10:52 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: I guess so. There are four choices: Only three. 2. You have a gfx card that does not support hardware colorspace conversion and has no shader support in the GPU. That means we have to do the colorspace conversion in the CPU. Hardware colorspace conversion uses fragment shaders to do the work. So these aren't different things. Ok 1080p. Windows decoder use both cores for the task while ffmpeg's decoder only uses one in most cases. If 1080p works on Linux, I guess Freevo 2.0 will do, too. I assume by Windows decoder you mean Windows has a native h264 decoder? Are you sure? Core AVC is available, which does frame level parallelism. But this is commercial (though not expensive). I was refering to Core AVC. Now, it's not good enough for the graphics chipset to support shaders. The driver has to support it too, and without any bugs that interfere with a (albeit relatively simple) fragment program involving multitexturing. Sure. That could be the problems with ATI cards. No idea what the Linux drivers can do. Dischi -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. (Albert Einstein) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 10:55 +0100, Duncan Webb wrote: When comparing the picture quality of TV broadcasts from CRT TVs and TFT TVs the picture quality was simply much better with the CRTs. I'm rather tempted to say the reason is, paradoxically, because of the added (temporal) resolution and (spacial) clarity in the newer progressive displays. My best guess is that thanks to phosphor decay in CRTs, you effectively get the rough equivalent of a blend deinterlacer for each pair of fields, which also serves to smooth out artifacts and other noise that are rampant in analogue and lower resolution broadcasts. So, maybe apply a gaussian blur to every frame coming from an analogue source before displaying to a progressive HD display and it might look equivalent to your average CRT. :) I guess it depends on the source. Years ago I watched a VCD on my monitor because my TV was broken. The result was very bad. But for analog TV broadcasts you can record in higher quality, PAL/NTSC isn't that bad. But you shouldn't use the small VCD resolution. If you record the full 480 or 576 pixel height, the quality is ok. Dischi -- [Our enemies] never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. (George W. Bush, August 5th 2004) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Morten Lied Johansen wrote: I'm running Freevo using FB (uvesafb I think, been a while since I checked the actual config), simply because I couldn't figure out how to configure it any other way (and get it to work). :) What gfx card to you have? As to the 4:3 vs 16:9 debate, I am of the opinion that a 4:3 screen adding black borders above and below a 16:9 image is wy more comfortable to watch than a 16:9 screen adding black borders on the sides of a 4:3 image. At the same time, there is still a lot of content being broadcast in 4:3 (atleast around here), so I want to stay with my 4:3 TV until it falls apart.. :) That is fine, 4:3 will be supported by Freevo 2.0. The only thing is that you will not be able to use a 4:3 theme on a 16:9 TV and the other way around. I will create a basic theme for both, but I expect more 16:9 themes in the future. If people only submit cool 4:3 themes, than there will be more 4:3 themes to choose from. Dischi -- /* Host controller interrupts must not be running while calling this * function or the penguins will get angry. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/ohci.c -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Jason Tackaberry wrote: I'm prepared now to begin using Python 2.5 features inside kaa.base and make it a formal requirement unless there are no further arguments. This new requirement will apply to svn shortly, and to the next release. We could remove the 2.4 yield support with the get_result() stuff. That would be an API change we should doc. When you start removing 2.4 support, make sure setup.py checks for = 2.5 and 3. After that we can remove that check for the other kaa modules. Duncan: if you don't mind, I will try to update Freevo 1 branch to all API changes we make. I don't think you use coroutines, but you use kaa.rpc and we want to rename one function there. I guess you also use kaa.Process which will be updated with a new API soon (that API requires 2.5). As kaa.base is a dependency for all kaa modules, this requirement then applies to all modules under the kaa umbrella. So dischi, we can start using relative imports for kaa.metadata (and elsewhere, where desired). IIRC kaa.base, kaa.imlib2, and kaa.metadata are the old modules working with 2.4. The others already require 2.5. For kaa.metadata relative imports would be nice, kaa.imlib2 does not need anything special. Dischi -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. (Albert Einstein) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Duncan Webb wrote: I've just started the jump from Python-2.4 to Python-2.6 on my DirectFB machine. So far it has been easy enough and been fairly trouble free. Stupid question from the 2.0 development point of view: you use DFB in Freevo? What card to you have? For 2.0 we are going we are making X a requirement. Well, sort of. We use clutter, but I'm not sure how good the clutter SDL backend works on DFB. So after the 2.4 question, here a new one: anyone not using X11 and why? Dischi -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. (Albert Einstein) -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
John Molohan wrote: Dirk Meyer wrote: Duncan Webb wrote: I've just started the jump from Python-2.4 to Python-2.6 on my DirectFB machine. So far it has been easy enough and been fairly trouble free. Stupid question from the 2.0 development point of view: you use DFB in Freevo? What card to you have? For 2.0 we are going we are making X a requirement. Well, sort of. We use clutter, but I'm not sure how good the clutter SDL backend works on DFB. So after the 2.4 question, here a new one: anyone not using X11 and why? Up until sometime last year I was still using directfb with a matrox g400 card as I was outputting to a CRT. I'd guess that's the main reason why people would still use it? I guess so, too. For a CRT the G400 is great. But I expect CRTs to die in the next years. Even with kaa.popcorn integrated, Freevo 2 is only beta status. 1.8 has many cool features that need to be ported. I don't know how many people will jump on the 2.0 branch once I release pre1, but I expect it to be at least until the end of 2009 until 2.0 has all the features (maybe I'm wrong). At that time, I guess most people have a TFT. Freevo 2.0 has support for 4:3 themes but expect most themes will be designed for 16:9. Note: in 2.0 the themes scale only in size, keeping aspect. A theme for 720p works perfect on 1080p or 480p 16:9, but will not work for 4:3 outout. Dischi -- Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Please Read: Making Python 2.5 a requirement
Hi, we are wondering if we can make Python 2.5 a requirement for Freevo 1.8? It would make things a lot easier in kaa.base (signal handler) and kaa.metadata (relative imports). So how many users still use Python 2.4 and why? Dischi -- It's not Area 51 I'm worried about- it's Areas 1 through 50. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] osd changes and imlib2 trackback
John Molohan wrote: None? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# vim test.c [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cc test.c `imlib2-config --libs --cflags` [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# That is odd, that is what kaa.base is doing to detect imlib2 support. Can you try to debug the library functions in kaa.base.distribution.core? Dischi -- This signature is temporarily under construction - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] osd changes and imlib2 trackback
John Molohan wrote: + X11 (evas, evasGL, no imlib2) + Framebuffer (imlib2, evas) - DirectFB - SDL That reminds me of something that we should do before we release kaa.display: make imlib2 a requirement. And while we are changing stuff like this: maybe remove the evas support. kaa.evas is deprecated and may not even compile with the latest evas version. kaa.display X11, Framebuffer and SDL all work with imlib2 or evas, if we remove evas, imlib2 is a requirement. About the dfb support: it only opens a surface. What is this good for? Ok, with evas you can use evas on dfb, but if we drop even, we may also want to drop dfb support. Comments? Dischi -- panic(kmem_cache_init(): Offsets are wrong - I've been messed with!); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/mm/slab.c - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] disc detection error
Hi, Bjoern Franke wrote: my rf inferno - cell:nine-DVD is not detected by freevo any more: I do not think it ever did :) 2008-10-28 23:36:47,554 DEBUGrom_drives.py (445): Inserting disc in drive CD-1 2008-10-28 23:36:53,766 DEBUGrom_drives.py (524): drive_status changed 2 - 4 2008-10-28 23:36:53,888 DEBUGTrying audio/cd 2008-10-28 23:36:53,889 DEBUGTrying video/dvd 2008-10-28 23:36:55,146 ERRORkaa.metadata.create error Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/kaa/metadata/factory.py, line 327, in create return self.create_from_device(name) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/kaa/metadata/factory.py, line 289, in create_from_device t = self.get_class(e[R_CLASS])(devicename) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/kaa/metadata/disc/dvd.py, line 124, in __init__ self.parseDisc(device) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/kaa/metadata/disc/dvd.py, line 196, in parseDisc self._parse(device) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/kaa/metadata/disc/dvd.py, line 151, in _parse ti = DVDTitle(title) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/kaa/metadata/disc/dvd.py, line 105, in __init__ for id, lang in info[-1]: ValueError: too many values to unpack That happens if the disc reports subtitles and when kaa.metadata wants to read what kind of subtitles there are they are not available. Current kaa.metadata svn fixes that. Dischi -- I have yet to meet a C compiler that is more friendly and easier to use than eating soup with a knife. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] About Freevo Hacking
Andreas Dick wrote: Am Dienstag, 21. Oktober 2008 20.28:53 schrieb Dirk Meyer: A chart is (as always) missing. Most of it is not only in my head, it is also in the code. wow. I checked it out and scanned trough the sources... yes, I am just impressed! Thanks the next time I try to understand more of the structure. I think I should be able to follow the thread, if not, I let you now. We should move that discussion to the devel list. and then I should try to run it... for now I have not all deps installed. #freevo on irc.gnu.org if you have questions. Installing 2.0 is not that easy right now. Dischi -- Don't piss me off - I'm running out of places to hide the bodies. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Myth frontend
Jason Tackaberry wrote: As a developer, or even as a systems engineer (which I am during the day), I'm happy to answer questions and explain how things work in detail. However I'm at my least happiest when writing documentation. :) Full ACK Mind you, I also recognize that it's often a chicken-and-egg problem. You can't have users unless _somebody_ knows how it works, and that usually starts with the developers. But once you build that momentum, there are some very capable writers out there. (Unfortunately there are some very bad ones too. So it goes.) The basic idea is: if you want to use something here with bad doc, tell us. Hans wanted to use beacon and I wrote some basic doc for it. That is how it works. But if someone finds out something by reading the inline doc or the test cases, it would be nice if he/she writes a small doc and sends a patch. Dischi -- Murphy's Laws: (1) If anything can go wrong, it will. (2) Nothing is as easy as it looks. (3) Everything takes longer than you think it will. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Myth frontend
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, is there any support for EIT yet? mythtv has no trouble pulling guide data off the air these days. For the stations i can pick up at least. Freevo 2.0 has some basic support for it. dvbstreamer scans the EPG, generates XMLTV and kaa.epg loads that file. Dischi -- As I said before, I never repeat myself. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] About Freevo Hacking
Hi, Andreas Dick wrote: When I wrote plugins for 1.x I found a lot places in the code that should be redesigned or even cleaned from cross dependencies and other software design problems... but thinking about freevo 2 I hope for a wonderfull (software-)world where everything is fine and where hacking is easy and self understandable... Sure :) Thus I am not longer interested in hacking for freevo 1.x as long as I think that my code will not be needed in freevo 2 anymore... Shouldn't we go straight to freevo 2 and forget all the detail problems of 1.x? Maybe you should take a look at 2.0 and check if what you think needs some clean up looks better. If not, let us discuss this here. In fact: I am interested in coding for freevo 2 but I do not see the big plan behind it yet...: So I should help you :) - how will the configuration be? kaa.config: Developers write config schema in xml files. These xml files will be converted to .py files during install. This python code can read _and_ write ini style config files. The user only sees that ini style file and you can also write a small app for configuration so the user does not need to open an editor. Jason started such an editor but it does not support all the features. - how will the plugin structure be? Similar but different at some levels. You do not have a DaemonPlugin, only a generic one and some special types for generating items for the menu (ItemPlugin as in 1.8) and for the idlebar (IdlebarPlugin as in 1.8). All plugins can use kaa.notifier's Timer and Sockets to do stuff in the background and send events if they think it is needed. - the event handling, polling? Events similar. IIRC Freevo 1.8 uses the kaa.notifier event code. You can post() and event and parts of Freevo register to that event and react on it. No polling! - what could the interface be between core and modules (like kaa)? Depends on the kaa module. Kaa defines some generic code Freevo uses. So there is no mplayer or xine video plugin in Freevo, Freevo uses kaa.popcorn to play the video. And kaa.popcorn chooses the player that should be used. That is the main difference between Freevo 1.x and 2.0: the logic is split into several modules. If you want to add a new video player, you do not have to understand one line of code from Freevo, just kaa.popcorn (and kaa.base which is used by kaa.popcorn). Similar is kaa.epg. A new source is added in kaa.epg and Freevo doesn't care. For code like the gui, kaa.mevas (trunk) or kaa.candy (experimental branch) provide the basic functions and Freevo uses it (and adds some more Freevo specific widgets). - and so on. Feel free to ask more and check out the code. Dischi -- WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, as apparently my cats have learned how to type. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] About Freevo Hacking
Andreas Dick wrote: I will check it out and take a overview of the state. The architecture seems to be allready in your (and others) head... is there allready something like a chart of the software structure? A chart is (as always) missing. Most of it is not only in my head, it is also in the code. What do you think is not implemented for a final switch to freevo 2 yet? There are only two major show stoppers for 2.0pre1: 1. The GUI needs a rewrite. I started with that in the candy branch but there are three major things: - There is a bug in the underlying GUI engine clutter in version 0.8 I'm trying to fix with the clutter authors - Video playback does not work in the new gui code. It requires a clutter based rewrite from Jason - The gui needs more love in form of xml theme files and images 2. The TV code was rewritten. The result is the new tvserver module in freevo trunk. - It only supports DVB right now, analog and ivtv support is missing. - The code in the trunk can only schedule recordings, watching TV is not possible. I do not plan to change that because the gui is deprecated anyway. - The code with the new clutter based GUI has no TV support at all. I need to write the widgets for that. Live-TV will depend on the video playback working. - Channel mapping from DVB names to XMLTV names only works on guesses. You can not fix it yourself in the config file. And as always: the doc is far away from perfect. :) Help welcome Dischi -- C++: The power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade. (Kenneth C. Dyke) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] LCD display and Freevo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:48:28 +0200, Markus Wittenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Size=20x4 Tnx Markus, have you some photos from this dispayed freevo file ? i juste found this : http://www.chrismeighan.com/gallery2/d/394-2/media_pc_02.jpg i love that : http://freevo.der-dude.org/ but this is commercial case . think is expensive to build one . If you do not have a good case yet, go for Silverstone cases. Some have iMon integrated, it is very nice. Besides a display you get an integrated IR receiver and a remote and you can turn on the PC with the remote. I have one and I'm very happy with it. http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/enclosure.php?area= I have the LC20M, two years old. I guess there are better choices now. http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=lc20area=usa Dischi -- According to my calculations the problem doesn't exist. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Myth frontend
Eric Jorgensen wrote: I've only been using open source software for 15 years, but a common thread I've seen in user interface design is that it generally looks like it was conceived of by a programmer, and thus typically meets the barest of strict requirements by a hair or less, and has workflow characteristics that too closely resemble procedural programming. Yes, that is true. The problem with that is that it is not easy to find designer for open source projects. We are all coder. I asked on the list several times for designer but got not much response. I can code it, tell me about the look and feel ... and for Freevo: we need more developers. Dischi -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925 - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] unable to view tv channels in freevo2
Hi, Juan Bill wrote: I am having a difficult time in getting to tv channels in freevo2. My tv tuner is the asus u3100 dvb-t usb in ubuntu hardy heron. It works as i can view tv channels in kaffeine. I changed some code and logoc the last weeks. First of all: you can view tv with freevo 2.0, yet. But schedule a recording should work. # No attribute epg epg.mapping['ABC1'] = 'abc1.free.au' The mapping is currently disabled because of some changes I made. /home/gamma/freevo2/lib/python2.5/site-packages/freevo/ui/tv/plugins/guide.py, line 94, in get_channel return self.channels[co] IndexError: list index out of range Freevo is very unstable at this point. It crashes because it does not find any channels in the EPG database. I will fix that the next days. BTW, I just updated the README in tvserver, maybe that helps. Freevo 2.0 has massive problems by only having one developer. The TV part and the candy branch are the current things I'm playing around with, but it takes some time. Dischi -- American beer is like making love in a canoe. It's f*cking close to water. - Monty Python - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] Desperately seeking a motherboard that doesn't suck
Jason Tackaberry wrote: So I just bought an Asus P5Q-E, whose sound chipset (ADI AD2000B) doesn't properly work with ALSA, and (after having spent the last 2 days compiling bleeding edge stuff) I can't get SPDIF output working. I have a board with an Intel HD audio chip. It works very well. A note on some boards from Asus: it looks like they do not have digital out, but that is wrong. They don't have digital out were you would expect it, but they have a connector on the board and you can get an extension to use this for around 15 EUR. Dischi -- The good thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Donations for freevo.org
Hi, a year ago I asked for some money to move the major parts of the Freevo development to a private server. We moved the sources svn and the wiki. This is a huge speed improvement and also makes it easier for an admin because we have root access on the machine. We also wanted to move the rest of the website but never found the time. Now most of the money is gone so I ask again for donations to keep the server running. The server itself is a shared server with other stuff, freevo.org is a XEN based machine. The costs are split between the virual server of the host, the Freevo share is 10 EUR/m + 1 EUR/m for the domain freevo.org itself. The 12 EUR/year domain is my share of the Freevo costs, for the other 120 EUR I ask for a small donation (5 EUR - 20EUR) from some people. You can send the money to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using paypal or ask me in a private mail for my bank account information. Thanks, Dischi -- ACK and you shall receive. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Bounces from xorg
Hi, I get bounces for all mails I send to our lists from the xorg mailing list. If someone here is subscribed to freevo-devel, freevo-users and an xorg list, please check your forwarding rules or procmail. Something is going wrong here. Dischi -- This file will self-destruct in five minutes. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] FreeVo broken with python 2.4 ?
Duncan Webb wrote: Dirk Meyer wrote: Duncan Webb wrote: Dirk Meyer wrote: Duncan Webb wrote: I've not upgraded kaa.base for a while as it broke, simply locking the system without any hint why. But this also happens in a Python 2.5 system with recent versions of kaa. That is odd. It would be nice if you could debug it. Adding print statements along the path until you find the bad line of code. kaa.base works wonderfull for and Freevo 2.0. The latest version seems fine. BTW Would you like to release the metadata, the change from date to userdate is a bit of a problem. I just looked ta the ChangeLog: the userdate change is from 2007-09-16 while the last release is from 2008-03-24. I could release kaa.base 0.5.0 and kaa.metadata 0.7.4 tomorrow if you like. Does everything work with current SVN? I also want to release a new kaa.imlib2, only a small thread bugfix. That would be good, The ChangeLog looks like it has no problems with the latest kaa.base. Since Jason still fixes some stuff in base, I will only update metadata for now. Expect a release the next hour. Dischi -- Students? barked the Archchancellor. Yes, Master. You know? They're the thinner ones with the pale faces? Because we're a *university*? They come with the whole thing, like rats -- -- (Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures) - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] FreeVo broken with python 2.4 ?
Jason Tackaberry wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 16:19 +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote: I could release kaa.base 0.5.0 and kaa.metadata 0.7.4 tomorrow if you like. Does everything work with current SVN? I also want to release a new kaa.imlib2, only a small thread bugfix. Just fixed a few bugs with kaa.base. It could use a bit more time in the oven. kaa.metadata looks good here. IIRC kaa.metadata does not use any fancy stuff from kaa.base. So if current Freevo 1.8 works with base svn and 0.4 I can just release metadata. Duncan: please test. Dischi -- Oh Lord give me patience... NOW! - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] FreeVo broken with python 2.4 ?
Helmut Auer wrote: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/freevo/main.py, line 55, in ? rc.get_singleton(is_helper=0) File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/freevo/rc.py, line 62, in get_singleton _singleton = EventHandler(**kwargs) File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/freevo/rc.py, line 511, in __init__ kaa.Timer(self.poll).start(config.POLL_TIME) TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable I have python 2.4., til now I used 1.80 without problems Any hints whats going wrong ? POLL_TIME is defined in local_conf.py (The error also occurs when I use 0.1 instead of config.POLL_TIME) Since the error is 'NoneType' object is not callable, one of the two calls are broken. Either kaa.Timer is None or kaa.Timer().start is None. Both would be very odd. Any 2.4 users still out there? After upgrading to python 2.5 freevo is running fine now. kaa.base SHOULD work with 2.4. If not, it is a bug. Dischi -- Standards are industry's way of codifying obsolescence. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] FreeVo broken with python 2.4 ?
Duncan Webb wrote: Me, still have Python 2.4 on my test system. Upgrading Python 2.4 to 2.5 on my gentoo system was a real pain, the python-updater crashed whenever it could not find a package. Worked for me. :) IMHO it is a pain that gentoo still uses 2.4 as default. I've not upgraded kaa.base for a while as it broke, simply locking the system without any hint why. But this also happens in a Python 2.5 system with recent versions of kaa. That is odd. It would be nice if you could debug it. Adding print statements along the path until you find the bad line of code. kaa.base works wonderfull for and Freevo 2.0. Dischi -- If at first you don't succeed, look in the trash for the instructions. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
