Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Almost works. Dying on ftp.kernel.org downloads. I thin that maybe site related though. I will try it again tomorrow. Evan On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Thomas Genty tomloh...@gmail.com wrote: Le 28/08/2011 08:51, Thomas Genty a écrit : Le 28/08/2011 00:09, Dan Schmidt a écrit : Thanks, that does sound interesting, I think I'd like to try that someday. How difficult is the config? Nothing difficult Just select from make menuconfig/xconfig - freevo mediacenter - your target architectute/cpu ,etc - your target image (iso / flat rootfs) - in Features/Media Player, choose Mplayer make wait if you choose iso, you can use unetbootin to test it with a usb key if you choose flat rootfs, you 've got a script called flat2usb in scripts. Cheers, Tom I've added a new config for freevo, if someone wants to test : hg clone http://hg.openbricks.org/openbricks ./scripts/loadcfg geexbox-freevo-i386-generic make cheers, T..G -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA Learn about the latest advances in developing for the BlackBerryreg; mobile platform with sessions, labs more. See new tools and technologies. Register for BlackBerryreg; DevCon today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-devcon-copy1 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Le 13/09/2011 06:12, Evan Hisey a écrit :
Almost works. Dying onftp.kernel.org downloads. I thin that maybe
site related though. I will try it again tomorrow.
Evan
I've uploaded the package :
in packages/linux/meta, change
PKG_URL=http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-${PKG_VERSION}.tar.bz2;
by :
PKG_URL=$DISTRO_SRCS/linux-${PKG_VERSION}.tar.bz2
and rerun make
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Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Le 28/08/2011 08:51, Thomas Genty a écrit : Le 28/08/2011 00:09, Dan Schmidt a écrit : Thanks, that does sound interesting, I think I'd like to try that someday. How difficult is the config? Nothing difficult Just select from make menuconfig/xconfig - freevo mediacenter - your target architectute/cpu ,etc - your target image (iso / flat rootfs) - in Features/Media Player, choose Mplayer make wait if you choose iso, you can use unetbootin to test it with a usb key if you choose flat rootfs, you 've got a script called flat2usb in scripts. Cheers, Tom I've added a new config for freevo, if someone wants to test : hg clone http://hg.openbricks.org/openbricks ./scripts/loadcfg geexbox-freevo-i386-generic make cheers, T..G -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Le 28/08/2011 00:09, Dan Schmidt a écrit : Thanks, that does sound interesting, I think I'd like to try that someday. How difficult is the config? Nothing difficult Just select from make menuconfig/xconfig - freevo mediacenter - your target architectute/cpu ,etc - your target image (iso / flat rootfs) - in Features/Media Player, choose Mplayer make wait if you choose iso, you can use unetbootin to test it with a usb key if you choose flat rootfs, you 've got a script called flat2usb in scripts. Cheers, Tom -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On 18/08/2011 08:00, Thomas Genty wrote: Le 17/08/2011 05:33, Dan Schmidt a écrit : Truly would be a shame to see Freevo die. I know I've said a couple times before, but I really will get around to helping on the Wiki where I can. As I have said before, if Freevo were distributed as a live distro that was easier to install (Maybe like piren was aiming to be?), and didn't have to deal with lirc bugs (Ubuntu), I think more people would use it. I think this is true and unfortunately the two previous attempts (including piren) have not been kept up to date. You can look at openbricks.org There is already a package with freevo 1.9.0 , dvbstreamer and a (very) small script to configure it. I can provide a config file to build it. You can have a small live usb with freevo and it's easy to test Cheers, T.G Are you active in the openbricks community? I see from the post below they added support for XBMC and MythTV back in December, it would be great if you could get Freevo added. http://www.openbricks.org/2010/12/22/need-a-mediacenter-make-it-4-and-welcome-to-xbmc-and-mythtv/ John -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Le 27/08/2011 13:36, John Molohan a écrit : On 18/08/2011 08:00, Thomas Genty wrote: Le 17/08/2011 05:33, Dan Schmidt aécrit : Truly would be a shame to see Freevo die. I know I've said a couple times before, but I really will get around to helping on the Wiki where I can. As I have said before, if Freevo were distributed as a live distro that was easier to install (Maybe like piren was aiming to be?), and didn't have to deal with lirc bugs (Ubuntu), I think more people would use it. I think this is true and unfortunately the two previous attempts (including piren) have not been kept up to date. You can look at openbricks.org There is already a package with freevo 1.9.0 , dvbstreamer and a (very) small script to configure it. I can provide a config file to build it. You can have a small live usb with freevo and it's easy to test Cheers, T.G Are you active in the openbricks community? Yes I see from the post below they added support for XBMC and MythTV back in December, it would be great if you could get Freevo added. I's already added http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.openbricks.scm/1576 Only 1.90, For more recent , there is problem while cross compiling kaa* under python 1.7 Cheers, T.G http://www.openbricks.org/2010/12/22/need-a-mediacenter-make-it-4-and-welcome-to-xbmc-and-mythtv/ John -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
It told me I did indeed need to have a newer kaa and I was unable to find a way around it. And, I'm a bit afraid to update kaa. Higher on my priority list is to work on the wiki but I hope to someday take another crack at running SVN. I, like all, have little time; next I am sick, I will try to update the wiki with some more pointers for newbies. Speaking of time, thanks for yours Adam. On 08/23/2011 06:01 AM, Adam Charrett wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Dan Schmidt wrote: Very sorry, I would report issues, but I can't get SVN working. 1.9 is pretty old. It was working on back in January, but couldn't get it working. Can you remind me what issues you where having? If you have found some bugs on 1.9 that haven't already been reported, I don't find trying them out on svn if you can describe how to produce the issues/include some test data. Is there a way to install kaa without touching the rest of my machine? I've waxed brave enough to try the beta version but, if I botch it up, I still need to use my Freevo. I was looking at: http://doc.freevo.org/SourceSVNInstallation Any help appreciated, thanks. dan@dan-desktop:~/kaa$ python setup.py install --prefix=/home/dan/freevo-test [setup] Entering kaa submodule base ERROR: detected conflicting files from a previous kaa.base version. To fix, you'll need to rm -rf the following directories: 1. build/ 2. /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/kaa/ Once you delete #2, you'll need to reinstall all the kaa sub-modules you use. I have to admit to not having tried to do this, but I don't think you should need to upgrade kaa to run the svn version (although I could be wrong). On 08/18/2011 09:44 AM, Adam Charrett wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Alan wrote: On a side note, I am in no rush to try 2, I fairly happy with Freevo 1. (For the life of me, I never could get dvbstreamer working nor svn, but 1.9 works for my needs) And, my wife will kill me if I "mess around with that thing" anymore. Never tried XBMC but, if it's anything like Boxee, it's nice, but it's not Freevo - it's cluttered, sluggish on my old pentium4, and it doesn't record. Using Freevo to launch Boxee or Huludesktop is great, but not enough to make me want to get rid of Freevo. I am in the same boat as you, I'm hesitant to update my Freevo installation anytime soon. I would rather see the bugs present in 1.9 fixed before jumping to a new version that will probably have its own issues. For example, Freevo crashes whenever it tries to play a file with accents or japanese in its name. Some plugins don't work. etc. These are all issues that haven't been fixed in a long time, and I don't think a new version would fix this. This is going to be a nag email so I do apologies in advance Have you reported the issues (ie on the tracker, email doesn't count)? If you don't report them they won't get fixed. I don't have a great deal of time to do much on freevo at the moment, but if there are bugs there it does provide an good reason to make some time available. Or a patch that solves the problems would be even better, cuts out the slow middleman (ie me). Cheers Adam
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Thanks, that does sound interesting, I think I'd like to try that someday. How difficult is the config? On 08/18/2011 01:00 AM, Thomas Genty wrote: Le 17/08/2011 05:33, Dan Schmidt a écrit : Truly would be a shame to see Freevo die. I know I've said a couple times before, but I really will get around to helping on the Wiki where I can. As I have said before, if Freevo were distributed as a live distro that was easier to install (Maybe like piren was aiming to be?), and didn't have to deal with lirc bugs (Ubuntu), I think more people would use it. You can look at openbricks.org There is already a package with freevo 1.9.0 , dvbstreamer and a (very) small script to configure it. I can provide a config file to build it. You can have a small live usb with freevo and it's easy to test Cheers, T.G -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Dan Schmidt wrote: Very sorry, I would report issues, but I can't get SVN working. 1.9 is pretty old. It was working on back in January, but couldn't get it working. Can you remind me what issues you where having? If you have found some bugs on 1.9 that haven't already been reported, I don't find trying them out on svn if you can describe how to produce the issues/include some test data. Is there a way to install kaa without touching the rest of my machine? I've waxed brave enough to try the beta version but, if I botch it up, I still need to use my Freevo. I was looking at: http://doc.freevo.org/SourceSVNInstallation Any help appreciated, thanks. dan@dan-desktop:~/kaa$ python setup.py install --prefix=/home/dan/freevo-test [setup] Entering kaa submodule base ERROR: detected conflicting files from a previous kaa.base version. To fix, you'll need to rm -rf the following directories: 1. build/ 2. /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/kaa/ Once you delete #2, you'll need to reinstall all the kaa sub-modules you use. I have to admit to not having tried to do this, but I don't think you should need to upgrade kaa to run the svn version (although I could be wrong). On 08/18/2011 09:44 AM, Adam Charrett wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Alan wrote: On a side note, I am in no rush to try 2, I fairly happy with Freevo 1. (For the life of me, I never could get dvbstreamer working nor svn, but 1.9 works for my needs) And, my wife will kill me if I mess around with that thing anymore. Never tried XBMC but, if it's anything like Boxee, it's nice, but it's not Freevo - it's cluttered, sluggish on my old pentium4, and it doesn't record. Using Freevo to launch Boxee or Huludesktop is great, but not enough to make me want to get rid of Freevo. I am in the same boat as you, I'm hesitant to update my Freevo installation anytime soon. I would rather see the bugs present in 1.9 fixed before jumping to a new version that will probably have its own issues. For example, Freevo crashes whenever it tries to play a file with accents or japanese in its name. Some plugins don't work. etc. These are all issues that haven't been fixed in a long time, and I don't think a new version would fix this. This is going to be a nag email so I do apologies in advance Have you reported the issues (ie on the tracker, email doesn't count)? If you don't report them they won't get fixed. I don't have a great deal of time to do much on freevo at the moment, but if there are bugs there it does provide an good reason to make some time available. Or a patch that solves the problems would be even better, cuts out the slow middleman (ie me). Cheers Adam -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Le 17/08/2011 05:33, Dan Schmidt a écrit : Truly would be a shame to see Freevo die. I know I've said a couple times before, but I really will get around to helping on the Wiki where I can. As I have said before, if Freevo were distributed as a live distro that was easier to install (Maybe like piren was aiming to be?), and didn't have to deal with lirc bugs (Ubuntu), I think more people would use it. You can look at openbricks.org There is already a package with freevo 1.9.0 , dvbstreamer and a (very) small script to configure it. I can provide a config file to build it. You can have a small live usb with freevo and it's easy to test Cheers, T.G -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Alan wrote: On a side note, I am in no rush to try 2, I fairly happy with Freevo 1. (For the life of me, I never could get dvbstreamer working nor svn, but 1.9 works for my needs) And, my wife will kill me if I mess around with that thing anymore. Never tried XBMC but, if it's anything like Boxee, it's nice, but it's not Freevo - it's cluttered, sluggish on my old pentium4, and it doesn't record. Using Freevo to launch Boxee or Huludesktop is great, but not enough to make me want to get rid of Freevo. I am in the same boat as you, I'm hesitant to update my Freevo installation anytime soon. I would rather see the bugs present in 1.9 fixed before jumping to a new version that will probably have its own issues. For example, Freevo crashes whenever it tries to play a file with accents or japanese in its name. Some plugins don't work. etc. These are all issues that haven't been fixed in a long time, and I don't think a new version would fix this. This is going to be a nag email so I do apologies in advance Have you reported the issues (ie on the tracker, email doesn't count)? If you don't report them they won't get fixed. I don't have a great deal of time to do much on freevo at the moment, but if there are bugs there it does provide an good reason to make some time available. Or a patch that solves the problems would be even better, cuts out the slow middleman (ie me). Cheers Adam-- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
14. It has been 2 or 3 years since I last asked for donations and I am paying for the server and the domain on my own since the money run out. It is only 11 EUR/month but it would be nice if some of you would help me out here. You can use paypal and dis...@freevo.org for donations. I git two donations, one very generous. But these do not even cover the last years. Make that three. C'mon people, we should at least help him break even! Especially those of us who can't code. (or can't code well enough) -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
You're right - I'll double mine if we get three more contributions... On 18 August 2011 21:25, Dan Schmidt helpdesk...@gmail.com wrote: 14. It has been 2 or 3 years since I last asked for donations and I am paying for the server and the domain on my own since the money run out. It is only 11 EUR/month but it would be nice if some of you would help me out here. You can use paypal and dis...@freevo.org for donations. I git two donations, one very generous. But these do not even cover the last years. Make that three. C'mon people, we should at least help him break even! Especially those of us who can't code. (or can't code well enough) -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On a side note, I am in no rush to try 2, I fairly happy with Freevo 1. (For the life of me, I never could get dvbstreamer working nor svn, but 1.9 works for my needs) And, my wife will kill me if I mess around with that thing anymore. Never tried XBMC but, if it's anything like Boxee, it's nice, but it's not Freevo - it's cluttered, sluggish on my old pentium4, and it doesn't record. Using Freevo to launch Boxee or Huludesktop is great, but not enough to make me want to get rid of Freevo. I am in the same boat as you, I'm hesitant to update my Freevo installation anytime soon. I would rather see the bugs present in 1.9 fixed before jumping to a new version that will probably have its own issues. For example, Freevo crashes whenever it tries to play a file with accents or japanese in its name. Some plugins don't work. etc. These are all issues that haven't been fixed in a long time, and I don't think a new version would fix this. -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
If you can speak c++, you should have NO problem with python. Even I can program somewhat in python! (NOT well, mind you) On a side note, I am in no rush to try 2, I fairly happy with Freevo 1. (For the life of me, I never could get dvbstreamer working nor svn, but 1.9 works for my needs) And, my wife will kill me if I mess around with that thing anymore. Never tried XBMC but, if it's anything like Boxee, it's nice, but it's not Freevo - it's cluttered, sluggish on my old pentium4, and it doesn't record. Using Freevo to launch Boxee or Huludesktop is great, but not enough to make me want to get rid of Freevo. Truly would be a shame to see Freevo die. I know I've said a couple times before, but I really will get around to helping on the Wiki where I can. As I have said before, if Freevo were distributed as a live distro that was easier to install (Maybe like piren was aiming to be?), and didn't have to deal with lirc bugs (Ubuntu), I think more people would use it. On 08/15/2011 06:49 PM, Jim Duda wrote: On 08/15/2011 04:11 PM, Dirk Meyer wrote: Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. Anyone? If I have to do it myself, Freevo 2.0 will stay the way it is right now only with a changed GUI backend and some bugs fixed. That would be sad. I really want to help as I really like my freevo. I'm a good C/C++ coder, can read Python, but no expert yet by any means. I no nothing about Clutter. I am however a quick study (so I'm told, :-) ) What documentation can I start reading to understand what I can do to help? I did manage to get freevo 2.0 installed and running from subversion. Thanks, Jim -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, On 07/17/2011 11:47 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: please read this if you are a Freebo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. Sadly, I did not get the response I was hoping for. I cannot code everything myself, my time is limited. The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. I now have one Freevo-hacking day in my calender each week which may be dropped if the weather is too good but it is there and I plan to use it. I started changing the internals of kaa.candy which is close to be done. I still have some problems, but I hope to figure it out. 8. kaa.popcorn (or video player) needs clutter support to write on a texture. This would enable us to draw on top of the video and put it on the background. Again: help needed here. we could either put the mplayer output on a texture or use gstreamer. Jason played with the first option but the code is not finished yet. Jason: do you think you can finish it? Others: do you want to help here? You need to understand kaa.base and kaa.popcorn (which you could change to your needs). Besides that, mplayer and/or gstreamer. The mplayer integration would also require C and clutter knowledge. The gstreamer integration needs pygstreamer. And we need to figure out how to integrate it with kaa.candy and the Freevo core. That would be my task. This is my biggest problem. The current code just starts mplayer. No real DVD support, no overlay. If nobody steps in, this will stay that way. :( 10. I have no time to work on TV support. I need help on working on the TV server, the TV devices (e.g. dvbstreamer), the EPG, etc. This is one of the major tasks I want to assign a new maintainer. No TV support from me 11. There is not webserver for Freevo 2.0. Anyone willing to take over this part? You have complete control what you want to do. I guess you have to know your HTML/CSS/JS-fu. 12. Android / iPhone support? Not needed but nice to have Nice to have, but I have no time. But IMHO this is not urgent. 14. It has been 2 or 3 years since I last asked for donations and I am paying for the server and the domain on my own since the money run out. It is only 11 EUR/month but it would be nice if some of you would help me out here. You can use paypal and dis...@freevo.org for donations. I git two donations, one very generous. But these do not even cover the last years. Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. Anyone? If I have to do it myself, Freevo 2.0 will stay the way it is right now only with a changed GUI backend and some bugs fixed. That would be sad. Dischi -- Time is a drug. Too much of it kills you. -- in Small Gods (Terry Pratchett) -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:11:14 +0200 Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: On 07/17/2011 11:47 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: please read this if you are a Freevo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. Sadly, I did not get the response I was hoping for. I cannot code everything myself, my time is limited. Would a bit of organisation now assist with next year's google_summer_of_code project? -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On 08/15/2011 04:11 PM, Dirk Meyer wrote: Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. Anyone? If I have to do it myself, Freevo 2.0 will stay the way it is right now only with a changed GUI backend and some bugs fixed. That would be sad. I really want to help as I really like my freevo. I'm a good C/C++ coder, can read Python, but no expert yet by any means. I no nothing about Clutter. I am however a quick study (so I'm told, :-) ) What documentation can I start reading to understand what I can do to help? I did manage to get freevo 2.0 installed and running from subversion. Thanks, Jim -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
One thing that Freevo 2.0 needs besides the (obviously) functionality is the looks. None of the existing skins look appealing nor do fully utilize the capabilities of the modern displays. Disappointing looks are some of the the reasons people are looking towards projects like xbmc for example. I have started playing with some skinning in 1.9.x and came up with a clone of the xbmc confluence skin look for freevo. The work is 80% done and looks quite impressive already. I will post some screenshots later on today in a separate thread on the freevo-devel list for comments. Especially nice are the new audio player screens, both attached and detached (I use PlayStateDialog) as well as video PlayState screen which all look (almost) identical to xbmc ones. Features like fancy animations etc. are beyond current capabilities of Freevo (and I'm not sure if really necessary) but the final result is, nevertheless, quite nice and esthetically pleasing. If this is accepted, then we should start thinking at porting this to Freevo 2.0 (which I can definitely help with). Cheers, Maciej On 11-07-26 09:59 PM, Phil Raymond wrote: I might be the only Freevo user using this method of recording, but it's worked like a charm for nearly 2 years and I have a library of HD movies and concerts to show for it. I use the HD PVR too, and (for the moment) do recording with a custom script that uses firewire to change channels on my cable box and scrapes from /dev/video0. My talk about a parser (if that's what James was referring to) was with kaa.metadata. Currently kaa.metadata doesn't understand m2ts files, so it can't tell you about resolution, framerate, audio/video tracks, duration, etc. That's what I'd like to see support added for. We don't need to write full demuxers for playback -- MPlayer already does that -- but we need a limited parser in kaa.metadata that can peel out that information. Cheers, Jason. -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On 11-07-26 09:59 PM, Phil Raymond wrote: I might be the only Freevo user using this method of recording, but it's worked like a charm for nearly 2 years and I have a library of HD movies and concerts to show for it. I use the HD PVR too, and (for the moment) do recording with a custom script that uses firewire to change channels on my cable box and scrapes from /dev/video0. My talk about a parser (if that's what James was referring to) was with kaa.metadata. Currently kaa.metadata doesn't understand m2ts files, so it can't tell you about resolution, framerate, audio/video tracks, duration, etc. That's what I'd like to see support added for. We don't need to write full demuxers for playback -- MPlayer already does that -- but we need a limited parser in kaa.metadata that can peel out that information. Cheers, Jason. -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
I thought I'd chime in here too. I admit I haven't even tried any other HTPC packages out there. I went with Freevo from the start and have been using it ever since, from it's humble beginnings (in my hands) playing back video and audio in a beige box tower, to the TV-tuning, cable box controlling, radio streaming, podcast-playing powerhouse that it is now (and in a nice Antec HTPC case, too). I do like the customization and plug-in architecture. It allows me to put in just the idlebar stuff I want, or if I'm not playing games I can take that out completely. I will admit I feel you need to be more knowledgeable to do the configuration... wading through the local_config file can be daunting at times. It will be nice when it's eventually an easy to use system of menus (either on-screen or via web). And speaking of web, love the web interface. I use it almost exclusively for scheduling and keeping tabs on programs. Just last week I was over 100 miles from home when I realized I'd forgotten to set a recording for the Formula One race. All I had to do was whip out my phone, call up the web page and set the recording. Piece of cake! But the number one reason I love Freevo is because Python is not a terribly hard language to learn. If Freevo had been written in C/C++, I might have gotten enough motivation to contribute. But with it being in Python, it was easy to jump in and start twiddling and tweaking and see the results immediately, without any recompiling. The barrier to entry for anyone who wants to contribute or even just modify their local version is a lot lower, in my opinion. And that is good! As for the future of it, I'm eager to see Freevo 2.0. Just listening to everyone talk about the plans in these last few e-mails has gotten me excited all over again. I don't know how much I can contribute just yet, but a few things sparked my interest: * Streaming source - I don't know if I can help make it happen, but I vote for it. I haven't been dabbling in the direct-over-firewire recording I was working on before, mostly because I don't have the grunt to play back anything more than SD resolution and haven't found a good re-encoding solution/setting for what is recorded in HD. I should dust it off and give it some more work. But this leads me to... * M2TS parser - Obviously goes hand-in-hand with the above, since the output from the cable box is a raw MPeg2 TS stream. I'd be willing to give it a look and see if I can make heads-or-tails out of the spec and how to adapt it to the metadata parser. I wouldn't count on me for this... but if I get some spare time I'd give it a try. I had a few other issues with the direct-recording... but that's a discussion for another thread. Regardless, I love the way things are looking. James Springfield, OR USA -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi James, Glad to see I'm not the only freevo user interested in capturing streams in a more user friendly way. Just as a sidebar to my previous email posted here a week ago, the Hauppauge HD PVR converts analog component HD video from a cable or satellite box to h.264 MP4 in a .m2ts container up to 1080i.From this device, a parser isn't needed and because it's taking analog component out from the box, it's not effected by any encryption, not even premium channels. A simple usb 2.0 cable passes the stream from the HD PVR to the computer where Freevo records it. A parser is still a great idea for those taking firewire out from a cable box. The downside to that is it will only pass unencrypted channels from the box. I might be the only Freevo user using this method of recording, but it's worked like a charm for nearly 2 years and I have a library of HD movies and concerts to show for it. I don't use Freevo to playback, since I a have a Boxee Box connected to my home network for playback to my TV. However, I can play anything it has recorded from Freevo on my computer using VLC, so I think i a VLC plugin for Freevo 2.0 would be useful for playback through Freevo. Phil Original Message - From: James Trietsch kero...@yahoo.com To: freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0 I thought I'd chime in here too. I admit I haven't even tried any other HTPC packages out there. I went with Freevo from the start and have been using it ever since, from it's humble beginnings (in my hands) playing back video and audio in a beige box tower, to the TV-tuning, cable box controlling, radio streaming, podcast-playing powerhouse that it is now (and in a nice Antec HTPC case, too). I do like the customization and plug-in architecture. It allows me to put in just the idlebar stuff I want, or if I'm not playing games I can take that out completely. I will admit I feel you need to be more knowledgeable to do the configuration... wading through the local_config file can be daunting at times. It will be nice when it's eventually an easy to use system of menus (either on-screen or via web). And speaking of web, love the web interface. I use it almost exclusively for scheduling and keeping tabs on programs. Just last week I was over 100 miles from home when I realized I'd forgotten to set a recording for the Formula One race. All I had to do was whip out my phone, call up the web page and set the recording. Piece of cake! But the number one reason I love Freevo is because Python is not a terribly hard language to learn. If Freevo had been written in C/C++, I might have gotten enough motivation to contribute. But with it being in Python, it was easy to jump in and start twiddling and tweaking and see the results immediately, without any recompiling. The barrier to entry for anyone who wants to contribute or even just modify their local version is a lot lower, in my opinion. And that is good! As for the future of it, I'm eager to see Freevo 2.0. Just listening to everyone talk about the plans in these last few e-mails has gotten me excited all over again. I don't know how much I can contribute just yet, but a few things sparked my interest: * Streaming source - I don't know if I can help make it happen, but I vote for it. I haven't been dabbling in the direct-over-firewire recording I was working on before, mostly because I don't have the grunt to play back anything more than SD resolution and haven't found a good re-encoding solution/setting for what is recorded in HD. I should dust it off and give it some more work. But this leads me to... * M2TS parser - Obviously goes hand-in-hand with the above, since the output from the cable box is a raw MPeg2 TS stream. I'd be willing to give it a look and see if I can make heads-or-tails out of the spec and how to adapt it to the metadata parser. I wouldn't count on me for this... but if I get some spare time I'd give it a try. I had a few other issues with the direct-recording... but that's a discussion for another thread. Regardless, I love the way things are looking. James Springfield, OR USA -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On 07/17/2011 05:47 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: Hi everyone, please read this if you are a Freebo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. I tried XBMC some days ago and while it looks very nice, it forces me to organize my media collection in a way I don't want to and has some usability issues (IMHO). Therefore, I still need Freevo. :) I tried xbmc too. I'm going to have to upgrade to use it, because I don't have a card which does VDPAU. I tried to use mplayer as an external player, but it doesn't work as well as it does with freevo and I cannot explain why. Also, I couldn't get the remote to work :-( I like my freevo!! Are there any instructions as to how to install and run freevo2 from svn repository? I don't see anything on the wiki. I've written a couple of freevo plugins, learned python (a little) to do so. I'm might try helping out development if I can install and play with freevo 2. Thanks for any help. Jim -- Storage Efficiency Calculator This modeling tool is based on patent-pending intellectual property that has been used successfully in hundreds of IBM storage optimization engage- ments, worldwide. Store less, Store more with what you own, Move data to the right place. Try It Now! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51427378/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, On 22.07.2011 22:02, Paul wrote: Like many have said here already the thing that sets Freevo apart for me is its endless configurability, if there's anything I don't like or don't need I can more often than not remove it or change it without having to have vast amounts of geek knowledge. Nice to hear. Yes, that was one plan, to make it possible using plugins to plug in everywhere you want and since it is python code, it is easy to remove/add stuff. I haven't looked at Freevo 2 yet either but, to echo others' comments, I hope it retains the ease of configuration and customisation that make its predecessor so unique. Even better ;) Dischi -- I believe no problem is so large or so difficult that it can't be blamed on somebody else. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, On 19.07.2011 23:43, Andreas Dick wrote: Hei Dischi great to hear that freevo 2 is back on the road! For me, the main plus of freevo 1.x is the simple plugin API... and the powerfull configuration options. Is there allready a plan, how the plugins can be used/reused in freevo 2? is there a new API or just copy and past of the old ones? The basic concept with menus, items and stuff like that is identical, but the API is different, it is more powerfull. Plugins cannot just be used from Freevo 1.9, but porting them should not be too hard if they only use the menu. Plugins using the GUI directly (e.g. the idlebar) may need more work. Dischi -- Drugs cause amnesia and other things I can't remember... -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Will 2.0 offer an option to capture streams from devices like the Hauppauge hd pvr, without selecting a channel to record? By that, I mean for example, using the word stream in tv channels in the local conf and Freevo would know it's looking for a stream instead of a channel. On Sun Jul 17th, 2011 4:47 AM CDT Dirk Meyer wrote: Hi everyone, please read this if you are a Freebo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. I tried XBMC some days ago and while it looks very nice, it forces me to organize my media collection in a way I don't want to and has some usability issues (IMHO). Therefore, I still need Freevo. :) The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. I now have one Freevo-hacking day in my calender each week which may be dropped if the weather is too good but it is there and I plan to use it. There are some minor issues I will fix no matter what happens. But I do not have the time to finish Freevo 2.0 to make it look and feel like I want. If you want to help in any way, please answer to this mail and we can discuss it. If you need help to start (like kaa.base help), feel free to ask. Jason and I can both answer your questions. Jason: I assign your name to some smaller stuff here, I hope it is OK. ;) Freevo Core: 1. kaa.base is done and has all the cool stuff I want. If there is a bug, Jason and I will take care of it. But it shouldn't be much. 2. kaa.metadata is also done. Maybe add or change a parser, but that is not important right now. Patches are always welcome. 3. kaa.imlib2 is also working as it should and it does not play a big role in the Freevo 2.0 core. 4. The Freevo core directory is also mostly done. There are some minor bugs in the playlist stuff but it should be easy to fix. The menu reload also has some problems I need to investigate. To summarize: the core is mostly done and the remaining points are on my TODO list and I will fix them. Now the bigger problems: GUI. The clutter-based GUI can do nice stuff but needs some more work. 5. kaa.candy has the basics, but may need some nice effects like mirror-effect, better animations, etc. It has everything we need to make Freevo 2.0 work but it could be nicer. If you know C (Python not needed) and want to play with clutter or if you now Python and want to dive into kaa.candy, drop me a note. You only need to know kaa.base and clutter as dependency. 6. XBMC looks s cool. The big background images, the animations. Nice! We do have the code in Freevo 2.0 to do the same (even support to grab TV show or movie specific wallpapers and images). I need help from a designer to make look Freevo even better. Can someone make a fake screenshot how Freevo should look like? Can someone provide nice wallpapers (CC licence)? This is one of the things I can not do myself. The GUI stuff needs help from you. C programmers, Python programmers and artists. Or if you cannot help with that, tell us what you want to have. Let's dive into the media plugins: 7. kaa.beacon is mostly done. I have some minor things on my list I will do the next weeks. The big problem is a better network support. Jason: we talked about distributed beacon servers. Do you still plan to do this? Do you still have time for it? 8. kaa.popcorn (or video player) needs clutter support to write on a texture. This would enable us to draw on top of the video and put it on the background. Again: help needed here. we could either put the mplayer output on a texture or use gstreamer. Jason played with the first option but the code is not finished yet. Jason: do you think you can finish it? Others: do you want to help here? You need to understand kaa.base and kaa.popcorn (which you could change to your needs). Besides that, mplayer and/or gstreamer. The mplayer integration would also require C and clutter knowledge. The gstreamer integration needs pygstreamer. And we need to figure out how to integrate it with kaa.candy and the Freevo core. That would be my task. 9. The image viewer could look nicer. If you want to help on this smaller part of Freevo, feel free to tell me. 10. I have no time to work on TV support. I need help on working on the TV server, the TV devices (e.g. dvbstreamer), the EPG, etc. This is one of the major tasks I want to assign a new maintainer. And something different: 11. There is not webserver for Freevo 2.0. Anyone willing to take over this part? You have complete control what you want to do. I guess you have to know your HTML/CSS/JS-fu. 12. Android / iPhone support? Not needed but nice to have 13. Port plugins from Freevo 1.9 to 2.0 And last but not least: 14. It has been 2 or 3 years since I last asked for donations and I am paying for the server and the domain on my own since the money run out. It is only 11 EUR/month but it would be nice if some of you would
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Hi, On 19.07.2011 23:43, Andreas Dick wrote: Hei Dischi great to hear that freevo 2 is back on the road! For me, the main plus of freevo 1.x is the simple plugin API... and the powerfull configuration options. Is there allready a plan, how the plugins can be used/reused in freevo 2? is there a new API or just copy and past of the old ones? The basic concept with menus, items and stuff like that is identical, but the API is different, it is more powerfull. Plugins cannot just be used from Freevo 1.9, but porting them should not be too hard if they only use the menu. Plugins using the GUI directly (e.g. the idlebar) may need more work. It would be great to have a complete DBUS interface too. That would allow integration with external programs without touching the Freevo code. I'm sure many people have good ideas for the next version of Freevo, it would be nice to have a collaboration system for this (if it doesn't exist yet). Could be as simple as a wiki page. -- Storage Efficiency Calculator This modeling tool is based on patent-pending intellectual property that has been used successfully in hundreds of IBM storage optimization engage- ments, worldwide. Store less, Store more with what you own, Move data to the right place. Try It Now! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51427378/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, I will split my answer into serveral post. Details for kaa.popcorn and kaa.candy only to the devel list. On 21.07.2011 03:57, Jason Tackaberry wrote: On 11-07-17 05:47 AM, Dirk Meyer wrote: I tried XBMC some days ago and while it looks very nice, it forces me to organize my media collection in a way I don't want to and has some usability issues (IMHO). Therefore, I still need Freevo. :) You know it's funny you say that, because after finally upgrading the OS on my HTPC -- I had an uptime of 380+ days and I was reluctant to reboot :) -- I also decided to try XBMC. :) Someone else complained that configuring it was difficult, but I didn't find that at all. It ran immediately after installation and configuration was fairly straightforward via the GUI (modulo lirc). Same here -- modulo lcd. It's certainly overall better than the mishmash of half-baked prototypes I was using before. But yes, I did have some usability issues (e.g. library required way too much handholding, requiring manual library scanning after adding or deleting content) Yes, IMHO kaa.beacon is much better here. The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. Yes, this is the fate of many small open source projects: developers eventually get carriers and/or lives and progress atrophies. I wish I had the motivation and energy I had when I was 20. :) Yes. But I think one Freevo hacking evening a week is possible. I'm very motivated after the XBMC test. Especially an M2TS parser. This is one of the bigger gaps in kaa.metadata right now. This would be a great, focused little project for someone looking to contribute. Adding parsers to kaa.metadata is quite simple and you're not required to figure out how kaa.base or other big chunks of code works. All you need to do is read the ISO 13818-1 spec. *cough* :) That is something we need, but it is not on my TODO list right now. 5. kaa.candy has the basics, but may need some nice effects like mirror-effect, better animations, etc. It has everything we need to make Freevo 2.0 work but it could be nicer. If you know C (Python not needed) and want to play with clutter or if you now Python and want to dive into kaa.candy, drop me a note. You only need to know kaa.base and clutter as dependency. I think we should seriously revisit kaa.candy now. clutter has come a long way since we looked at it last, and it now includes containers and layout managers, and lots of new effects and animations, which is a lot of what kaa.candy aimed to add. We should gut what's no longer necessary in kaa.candy and stay as tight to clutter as possible. Agreed. I will start a new posting here about changes in kaa.candy. But this won't delay Freevo 2.0 plugin development. If you do not need the idlebar, Freevo 2.0 is ready. And the GUI code is separented, it is not much work to replace it. 6. XBMC looks s cool. The big background images, the animations. Nice! We do have the code in Freevo 2.0 to do the same (even support to grab TV show or movie specific wallpapers and images). Yeah, but a lot of the credit there really goes to the awesome contributors of thetvdb.com and themoviedb.org. I'm still amazed at the quality of the fan art. Yes. And we could just reuse this. My biggest use-case is that I do most of my file management on my NAS, and the HTPC just has an NFS mount to consume the media. My HTPC is where beacon would run, but because INotify doesn't work through NFS, beacon doesn't see the changes. We had some neat ideas about distributed beacon instances, but there are a couple simpler-to-implement options that I'm more likely to get to first: 1. An INotify reflector: a small process that just passes INotify events over RPC back to the beacon server 2. Have an option to periodically scan NFS mounts in addition to INotify. Currently (IIRC), polling is disabled if INotify is supported. #2 is easiest to implement by a long shot. It's not as elegant as it won't catch file moves, though. Again, not on my list right now. If someone wants to help, this is a good part. [kaa.popcorn stuff see other post] 11. There is not webserver for Freevo 2.0. Anyone willing to take over this part? You have complete control what you want to do. I guess you have to know your HTML/CSS/JS-fu. I'm also lately of the opinion that we need a web services API. RESTful is trendy, and it's usually very easy to work with, lowering the barrier to entry. But this is something we should not worry about until we have a stable and complete core. yes Dischi -- Bad spellers of the world Untie! -- Storage Efficiency Calculator This modeling tool is based on patent-pending intellectual property that has been used successfully in hundreds of IBM storage
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Like many have said here already the thing that sets Freevo apart for me is its endless configurability, if there's anything I don't like or don't need I can more often than not remove it or change it without having to have vast amounts of geek knowledge. A couple of years ago when I set out to build a media centre I remember going through most of the usual suspects: XBMC, Linux MCE, Geexbox, Moovida, an early look at Enna etc - it wasn't actually that time consuming as I invariably almost instantly found something that I didn't like or something that I couldn't do (with many I recall it was simply playing a LAN shoutcast stream playing from MediaMonkey on my Windows desktop) with no obvious way of rectifying it. Freevo was one of the last ones I tried and it was quickly fairly apparent that, with a little work, this was something that I could customise to my needs. I'm probably different to many here in that I don't use the TV recording part of Freevo at all - initially I was just interested in playing recorded TV or ripped DVDs over the network from my desktop, playing music either a LAN stream using my Mediamonkey playlists, ripped CD's or radio and viewing photos. But now with just a little bash scripting knowledge my Freevo is also a karaoke machine, an internet browser with access to news/tv/movie streams google earth, an arcade/c64/DOS retro gaming machine, and a photo booth all controlled with a wiimote which changes automatically from keyboard interface to mouse pointer to joystick depending on which application is being used. I haven't been back to check on the other media centre applications since mainly because I'm fairly sure I would run into a dealbreaker fairly quickly - I doubt there is anything else out there that would allow the average user to do all of this and more with just a bit of scripting. I haven't looked at Freevo 2 yet either but, to echo others' comments, I hope it retains the ease of configuration and customisation that make its predecessor so unique. Viva Freevo On 19 July 2011 18:43, Andreas Dick and...@gmx.ch wrote: Hei Dischi great to hear that freevo 2 is back on the road! For me, the main plus of freevo 1.x is the simple plugin API... and the powerfull configuration options. Is there allready a plan, how the plugins can be used/reused in freevo 2? is there a new API or just copy and past of the old ones? Andreas Am Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011, um 11.47:46 schrieb Dirk Meyer: Hi everyone, please read this if you are a Freebo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. I tried XBMC some days ago and while it looks very nice, it forces me to organize my media collection in a way I don't want to and has some usability issues (IMHO). Therefore, I still need Freevo. :) The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. I now have one Freevo-hacking day in my calender each week which may be dropped if the weather is too good but it is there and I plan to use it. There are some minor issues I will fix no matter what happens. But I do not have the time to finish Freevo 2.0 to make it look and feel like I want. If you want to help in any way, please answer to this mail and we can discuss it. If you need help to start (like kaa.base help), feel free to ask. Jason and I can both answer your questions. Jason: I assign your name to some smaller stuff here, I hope it is OK. ;) Freevo Core: 1. kaa.base is done and has all the cool stuff I want. If there is a bug, Jason and I will take care of it. But it shouldn't be much. 2. kaa.metadata is also done. Maybe add or change a parser, but that is not important right now. Patches are always welcome. 3. kaa.imlib2 is also working as it should and it does not play a big role in the Freevo 2.0 core. 4. The Freevo core directory is also mostly done. There are some minor bugs in the playlist stuff but it should be easy to fix. The menu reload also has some problems I need to investigate. To summarize: the core is mostly done and the remaining points are on my TODO list and I will fix them. Now the bigger problems: GUI. The clutter-based GUI can do nice stuff but needs some more work. 5. kaa.candy has the basics, but may need some nice effects like mirror-effect, better animations, etc. It has everything we need to make Freevo 2.0 work but it could be nicer. If you know C (Python not needed) and want to play with clutter or if you now Python and want to dive into kaa.candy, drop me a note. You only need to know kaa.base and clutter as dependency. 6. XBMC looks s cool. The big background images, the animations. Nice! We do have the code in Freevo 2.0 to do the same (even support to grab TV show or movie specific wallpapers and images). I need help from a
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 14:42 +0100, Stephen Rowles wrote: On 17 July 2011 15:29, Tuomas Tonteri t...@tuomastonteri.fi wrote: Hi, I was wondering what is the place of Freevo 2.0 in the landscape of alternatives? What makes it unique from all the other HTPC software? There seems to be more competition here than there was five years ago. This from a very happy user of Freevo 1.X through its DirectFB backend. The best thing for me in Freevo (1) is the use of multiple separate programs, especially its use of mplayer. XBMC looks very flash, but configuring and actually using it is a pain IMO. It's very much style over substance. I tried it for a bit but got fed up and went back to Freevo. Yes they've made it look nice but don't appear to have sat down to make the day to day use smooth (or least not out of the box). It seems that I'm not in the minority then (well not on this list anyway :-) ). I though about switching but having played with it the UI flow just doesn't work for me. I think my biggest dis-like was having to go all the way back to the top of a directory listing just to go up one directory level. It also doesn't have built in TV support which is the main thing I use Freevo 1.0 for. Without TV recording Freevo 2.0 is no use to me personally. Unforunately I don't know enough python/C or have enough hours in the day to offer help at the moment. I've been having problems finding time to work on freevo recently, but my intention has been to look at this side of freevo 2 and see if I can't get it working with Freevo 1 initially, just to get the ball rolling, and then think about Freevo 2 and TV, Cheers Adam -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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On 17.07.2011 12:19, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:47:46 +0200 Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. I'm not capable of coding or design but i've sent euros - that bit I can do. Thank you very much! Dischi -- Gee Brain, what are we going to do tonight? The same thing, we do every night, Pinky - try to take over the world! -- Pinky and the Brain -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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Hi, On 17.07.2011 16:29, Tuomas Tonteri wrote: I was wondering what is the place of Freevo 2.0 in the landscape of alternatives? What makes it unique from all the other HTPC software? There seems to be more competition here than there was five years ago. IMHO there is only one big new player: XBMC. Yes, there are others, but they are small, just like we are now. This from a very happy user of Freevo 1.X through its DirectFB backend. The best thing for me in Freevo (1) is the use of multiple separate programs, especially its use of mplayer. I do not want to change that. There are good video players and many good people working on them. We do not have the man power to build our own player and I don't want to. Just hook into mplayer and gstreamer and reuse their good work. Dischi -- Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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Hi On 18.07.2011 15:42, Stephen Rowles wrote: On 17 July 2011 15:29, Tuomas Tonteri t...@tuomastonteri.fi mailto:t...@tuomastonteri.fi wrote: Hi, I was wondering what is the place of Freevo 2.0 in the landscape of alternatives? What makes it unique from all the other HTPC software? There seems to be more competition here than there was five years ago. This from a very happy user of Freevo 1.X through its DirectFB backend. The best thing for me in Freevo (1) is the use of multiple separate programs, especially its use of mplayer. XBMC looks very flash, but configuring and actually using it is a pain IMO. IMHO configuring it was easier than configuring Freevo. But I don't have everythng running, e.g. my LCD does not work with XBMC. But you only configure once, using it is the major part. And I think Freevo is better in that area: simpler! It's very much style over substance. I tried it for a bit but got fed up and went back to Freevo. Yes they've made it look nice but don't appear to have sat down to make the day to day use smooth (or least not out of the box). Agreed. It also doesn't have built in TV support which is the main thing I use Freevo 1.0 for. Without TV recording Freevo 2.0 is no use to me personally. Unforunately I don't know enough python/C or have enough hours in the day to offer help at the moment. I won't have time to work on the TV support, but since we already have it, I guess we can find someone porting what we have in 1.9 to 2.0 Dischi -- Disclaimer: the above is the author's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of his employer or of the little green men that have been following him all day. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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Hi On 18.07.2011 16:32, Francisco Eduardo Álvarez Solano wrote: Without TV recording Freevo 2.0 is no use to me personally. Unforunately I don't know enough python/C or have enough hours in the day to offer help at the moment. Just as Freevo uses mplayer for music/movie playing, why cannot it use tvtime/vdr for watching/recording tv? I guess it should be easier to integrate both programs into freevo, in a similar way as mplayer, than reinventing the wheel. That is what I have in mind. I have the basic TV handling working but its code broke during some updates. Someone needs to fix it. The tvserver has extra processes called tv device to do the work. And these tv devices just use other programs without reinventing the wheel. There is an example in Freevo 2.0 using dvbstreamer as backend. I don't know enough Python or C either, but I do use vdr for tv recording, and I recall it from freevo main menu. Perhaps it wouldn't be difficult to achieve a closer integration. I do not know VDR well. Maybe. Dischi -- Don't read everything you believe. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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On 19.07.2011 00:58, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:32:16 +0200 Francisco Eduardo Álvarez Solano franciscoe.alva...@gmail.com wrote: Just as Freevo uses mplayer for music/movie playing, why cannot it use tvtime/vdr for watching/recording tv? My TV signal is now DVB-T and incompatible with tvtime I guess we could have the following sources for recording: - tvtime for analog - dvbstreamer for DVB-T/C/S - gstreamer has generic backend Dischi -- The only problem with mornings is that they happen too early in the day. -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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Hi Adam, On 19.07.2011 20:47, Adam Charrett wrote: It seems that I'm not in the minority then (well not on this list anyway :-) ). I though about switching but having played with it the UI flow just doesn't work for me. I think my biggest dis-like was having to go all the way back to the top of a directory listing just to go up one directory level. Yes, that kind of sucks. It also has so much eye candy I do not need. We should a put the video I am playing into a small window or the background to go into another menu like weather? I've been having problems finding time to work on freevo recently Welcome to the club but my intention has been to look at this side of freevo 2 and see if I can't get it working with Freevo 1 initially, just to get the ball rolling, and then think about Freevo 2 and TV, That would be great. You are one of the two people I had in mind for the TV part. The other one is Soenke. The TV part is designed to even work without Freevo 2.0 itself -- well, you need some sort of interface, but a webserver or smartphone app would also be possible. Dischi, now done with answering all the mails :) -- Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups -- alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat. -- Alex Levine -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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Hei Dischi great to hear that freevo 2 is back on the road! For me, the main plus of freevo 1.x is the simple plugin API... and the powerfull configuration options. Is there allready a plan, how the plugins can be used/reused in freevo 2? is there a new API or just copy and past of the old ones? Andreas Am Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011, um 11.47:46 schrieb Dirk Meyer: Hi everyone, please read this if you are a Freebo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. I tried XBMC some days ago and while it looks very nice, it forces me to organize my media collection in a way I don't want to and has some usability issues (IMHO). Therefore, I still need Freevo. :) The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. I now have one Freevo-hacking day in my calender each week which may be dropped if the weather is too good but it is there and I plan to use it. There are some minor issues I will fix no matter what happens. But I do not have the time to finish Freevo 2.0 to make it look and feel like I want. If you want to help in any way, please answer to this mail and we can discuss it. If you need help to start (like kaa.base help), feel free to ask. Jason and I can both answer your questions. Jason: I assign your name to some smaller stuff here, I hope it is OK. ;) Freevo Core: 1. kaa.base is done and has all the cool stuff I want. If there is a bug, Jason and I will take care of it. But it shouldn't be much. 2. kaa.metadata is also done. Maybe add or change a parser, but that is not important right now. Patches are always welcome. 3. kaa.imlib2 is also working as it should and it does not play a big role in the Freevo 2.0 core. 4. The Freevo core directory is also mostly done. There are some minor bugs in the playlist stuff but it should be easy to fix. The menu reload also has some problems I need to investigate. To summarize: the core is mostly done and the remaining points are on my TODO list and I will fix them. Now the bigger problems: GUI. The clutter-based GUI can do nice stuff but needs some more work. 5. kaa.candy has the basics, but may need some nice effects like mirror-effect, better animations, etc. It has everything we need to make Freevo 2.0 work but it could be nicer. If you know C (Python not needed) and want to play with clutter or if you now Python and want to dive into kaa.candy, drop me a note. You only need to know kaa.base and clutter as dependency. 6. XBMC looks s cool. The big background images, the animations. Nice! We do have the code in Freevo 2.0 to do the same (even support to grab TV show or movie specific wallpapers and images). I need help from a designer to make look Freevo even better. Can someone make a fake screenshot how Freevo should look like? Can someone provide nice wallpapers (CC licence)? This is one of the things I can not do myself. The GUI stuff needs help from you. C programmers, Python programmers and artists. Or if you cannot help with that, tell us what you want to have. Let's dive into the media plugins: 7. kaa.beacon is mostly done. I have some minor things on my list I will do the next weeks. The big problem is a better network support. Jason: we talked about distributed beacon servers. Do you still plan to do this? Do you still have time for it? 8. kaa.popcorn (or video player) needs clutter support to write on a texture. This would enable us to draw on top of the video and put it on the background. Again: help needed here. we could either put the mplayer output on a texture or use gstreamer. Jason played with the first option but the code is not finished yet. Jason: do you think you can finish it? Others: do you want to help here? You need to understand kaa.base and kaa.popcorn (which you could change to your needs). Besides that, mplayer and/or gstreamer. The mplayer integration would also require C and clutter knowledge. The gstreamer integration needs pygstreamer. And we need to figure out how to integrate it with kaa.candy and the Freevo core. That would be my task. 9. The image viewer could look nicer. If you want to help on this smaller part of Freevo, feel free to tell me. 10. I have no time to work on TV support. I need help on working on the TV server, the TV devices (e.g. dvbstreamer), the EPG, etc. This is one of the major tasks I want to assign a new maintainer. And something different: 11. There is not webserver for Freevo 2.0. Anyone willing to take over this part? You have complete control what you want to do. I guess you have to know your HTML/CSS/JS-fu. 12. Android / iPhone support? Not needed but nice to have 13. Port plugins from Freevo 1.9 to 2.0 And last but not least: 14. It has been 2 or 3 years since I last asked for donations and I am paying
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On 17 July 2011 15:29, Tuomas Tonteri t...@tuomastonteri.fi wrote: Hi, I was wondering what is the place of Freevo 2.0 in the landscape of alternatives? What makes it unique from all the other HTPC software? There seems to be more competition here than there was five years ago. This from a very happy user of Freevo 1.X through its DirectFB backend. The best thing for me in Freevo (1) is the use of multiple separate programs, especially its use of mplayer. XBMC looks very flash, but configuring and actually using it is a pain IMO. It's very much style over substance. I tried it for a bit but got fed up and went back to Freevo. Yes they've made it look nice but don't appear to have sat down to make the day to day use smooth (or least not out of the box). It also doesn't have built in TV support which is the main thing I use Freevo 1.0 for. Without TV recording Freevo 2.0 is no use to me personally. Unforunately I don't know enough python/C or have enough hours in the day to offer help at the moment. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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Without TV recording Freevo 2.0 is no use to me personally. Unforunately I don't know enough python/C or have enough hours in the day to offer help at the moment. Just as Freevo uses mplayer for music/movie playing, why cannot it use tvtime/vdr for watching/recording tv? I guess it should be easier to integrate both programs into freevo, in a similar way as mplayer, than reinventing the wheel. I don't know enough Python or C either, but I do use vdr for tv recording, and I recall it from freevo main menu. Perhaps it wouldn't be difficult to achieve a closer integration. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:32:16 +0200 Francisco Eduardo Álvarez Solano franciscoe.alva...@gmail.com wrote: Just as Freevo uses mplayer for music/movie playing, why cannot it use tvtime/vdr for watching/recording tv? My TV signal is now DVB-T and incompatible with tvtime -- Storage Efficiency Calculator This modeling tool is based on patent-pending intellectual property that has been used successfully in hundreds of IBM storage optimization engage- ments, worldwide. Store less, Store more with what you own, Move data to the right place. Try It Now! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51427378/ ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi everyone, please read this if you are a Freebo user, even if you are no developer at all. I have been thinking about the future of Freevo 2.0 and need all your help to get it going somehow. I tried XBMC some days ago and while it looks very nice, it forces me to organize my media collection in a way I don't want to and has some usability issues (IMHO). Therefore, I still need Freevo. :) The main problem with Freevo 2.0 is my and Jason's lack of time the last year. Development was not only slow, it wasn't existant. I now have one Freevo-hacking day in my calender each week which may be dropped if the weather is too good but it is there and I plan to use it. There are some minor issues I will fix no matter what happens. But I do not have the time to finish Freevo 2.0 to make it look and feel like I want. If you want to help in any way, please answer to this mail and we can discuss it. If you need help to start (like kaa.base help), feel free to ask. Jason and I can both answer your questions. Jason: I assign your name to some smaller stuff here, I hope it is OK. ;) Freevo Core: 1. kaa.base is done and has all the cool stuff I want. If there is a bug, Jason and I will take care of it. But it shouldn't be much. 2. kaa.metadata is also done. Maybe add or change a parser, but that is not important right now. Patches are always welcome. 3. kaa.imlib2 is also working as it should and it does not play a big role in the Freevo 2.0 core. 4. The Freevo core directory is also mostly done. There are some minor bugs in the playlist stuff but it should be easy to fix. The menu reload also has some problems I need to investigate. To summarize: the core is mostly done and the remaining points are on my TODO list and I will fix them. Now the bigger problems: GUI. The clutter-based GUI can do nice stuff but needs some more work. 5. kaa.candy has the basics, but may need some nice effects like mirror-effect, better animations, etc. It has everything we need to make Freevo 2.0 work but it could be nicer. If you know C (Python not needed) and want to play with clutter or if you now Python and want to dive into kaa.candy, drop me a note. You only need to know kaa.base and clutter as dependency. 6. XBMC looks s cool. The big background images, the animations. Nice! We do have the code in Freevo 2.0 to do the same (even support to grab TV show or movie specific wallpapers and images). I need help from a designer to make look Freevo even better. Can someone make a fake screenshot how Freevo should look like? Can someone provide nice wallpapers (CC licence)? This is one of the things I can not do myself. The GUI stuff needs help from you. C programmers, Python programmers and artists. Or if you cannot help with that, tell us what you want to have. Let's dive into the media plugins: 7. kaa.beacon is mostly done. I have some minor things on my list I will do the next weeks. The big problem is a better network support. Jason: we talked about distributed beacon servers. Do you still plan to do this? Do you still have time for it? 8. kaa.popcorn (or video player) needs clutter support to write on a texture. This would enable us to draw on top of the video and put it on the background. Again: help needed here. we could either put the mplayer output on a texture or use gstreamer. Jason played with the first option but the code is not finished yet. Jason: do you think you can finish it? Others: do you want to help here? You need to understand kaa.base and kaa.popcorn (which you could change to your needs). Besides that, mplayer and/or gstreamer. The mplayer integration would also require C and clutter knowledge. The gstreamer integration needs pygstreamer. And we need to figure out how to integrate it with kaa.candy and the Freevo core. That would be my task. 9. The image viewer could look nicer. If you want to help on this smaller part of Freevo, feel free to tell me. 10. I have no time to work on TV support. I need help on working on the TV server, the TV devices (e.g. dvbstreamer), the EPG, etc. This is one of the major tasks I want to assign a new maintainer. And something different: 11. There is not webserver for Freevo 2.0. Anyone willing to take over this part? You have complete control what you want to do. I guess you have to know your HTML/CSS/JS-fu. 12. Android / iPhone support? Not needed but nice to have 13. Port plugins from Freevo 1.9 to 2.0 And last but not least: 14. It has been 2 or 3 years since I last asked for donations and I am paying for the server and the domain on my own since the money run out. It is only 11 EUR/month but it would be nice if some of you would help me out here. You can use paypal and dis...@freevo.org for donations. Thank you. Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. Regards, Dischi
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:47:46 +0200 Dirk Meyer dis...@freevo.org wrote: Long mail and I hope to get some feedback. Who is willing to help? Code C or Python? Clutter knowledge? Gstreamer? Web-stuff? Or a designer without coding? It would be a shame if Freevo dies, but I cannot do this alone. I'm not capable of coding or design but i've sent euros - that bit I can do. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
Re: [Freevo-users] The future of Freevo 2.0
Hi, I was wondering what is the place of Freevo 2.0 in the landscape of alternatives? What makes it unique from all the other HTPC software? There seems to be more competition here than there was five years ago. This from a very happy user of Freevo 1.X through its DirectFB backend. The best thing for me in Freevo (1) is the use of multiple separate programs, especially its use of mplayer. As for contributing, I could spend some time with the kaa.candy C backend/clutter department, to give something back and to do my bit. But only if I am well motivated about Freevo 2 in general. -- Tuomas Tonteri -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freevo-users mailing list Freevo-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Re: Future of Freevo 2.0 recording
Justin Wetherell wrote: Will 2.0 have the ability to detect conflict It already does that. Not perfect, but it works or have a priority system? Both. And it has that, too. On conflicts the tvserver will drop recordings based on priorities of the recordings, the cards, overlapping, etc. Will you be able to mark arctors, mark subjects, or mark genre? If someone does that, sure, why not. It is more or less some sort of favorite. Will you be able to remove a recording from schedule and not have it come back after updating? It should already work that way. These would be very nice to have in the next release of Freevo. Try :) Dischi -- Bad spellers of the world Untie! pgpWWpklR6YBM.pgp Description: PGP signature
