Re: How fast is the Code in OS X: 10.2 vrs. 10.3 vrs. 10.4 ???

[James Sanderson]

On 26 Feb 2006, at 15:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 -- Is 10.2 faster or slower than 10.4?


Is a cheetah faster than a tortoise? However, Jag is much less  
stable than Tiger.  The best compromise, IMHO, is Panther with  
XPostFacto.


Caleb


Having used both OS's on a WS I and a WS II, I have to agree.   
Panther corrected a number of issues both Wallstreets I used had with  
Jaguar.


Jim Sanderson



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Re: Wegener Media

[James Sanderson]

This question was asked a day ago...or so:



And, as far as relevant questions: What can anyone tell me  
about Wegener

Media and the service they provide?


I ordered my Pismo G4/550 upgrade from them and waited for five days  
for an email notification of shipment.  The only other communication  
I recieved was an emailed receipt of sale a couple of days after the  
purchase.  I suppose you could say that they are minimalist in  
communication.  They are very much unlike Daystar in this respect.   
However, the upgrade is working fine.  I will know more about how  
well they take care of their customers as I wait for the 'core' cost  
rebate.


Jim Sanderson

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Re: open source software site

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On 2 Feb 2006, at 19:20, Harry Corsover asked:

Can Keynote presentations be shared with Windows users? Can it take  
a PowerPoint presentation and clean it up, as well as save it in  
PowerPoint format?


Not to present.  You can export the Keynote presentation to PPT.  In  
the '05 version you would lose some of the formatting, though.  I  
don't know if this is true of the 06 version.


J Sanderson

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Re: WallStreet DVD-ROM issue, perchance?

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I was able to get a Pismo on eBay for $200+s/h.  I did spend money to  
add memory and move to a 500 MHz processor.  I think that I got  
'lucky' because the comp's description included a pink-light-on-start- 
up-but -goes-away-after-a-seconds issue.  The latter hasn't bothered  
me in the least.  I've priced out the replacement.  I think I'll be  
with this one for a while.
I was happy with the WS for basic internet surfing and note-taking.   
When I decided I wanted to use Keynote for several school  
presentation, the WS became obsolete.


Cheers,

Jim Sanderson
On 1 Feb 2006, at 17:36, Der Mickster wrote:


Should have got me a Pismo, by the look of it. But, well, I have this
WallStreet and it's here to stay, and I intend to use the living hell
out of it. So, yeah . . .

Any idea about how to procure a budget-conscious bootable DVDROM drive
for the WallStreet? I'm being offered one for 80 USD, which somehow
strikes as a ripoff, especially considering that the postage will eat
up another 30 . . . I don't think I'm ready to spend that much for a
mere DVDROM; ideas, anyone?

Also - if my display can't keep vertical and needs something heavy to
lean against, does it mean my hinges are pushing up the daisies? I've
seen an excellent HOWTO that covered the issue extensively, but I am
somewhat squeamish about attempting it myself. RAM, HDD, whatever, but
the display . . . scary. Or is it some other problem that can be more
easily soluble?

Another thing: I've read a couple of scare stories about how hard
drives with more capacity than 30-40 gig may not be too friendly with
the WallStreet . . . should I look no further than the 40-gig
Travelstar that I mentioned in a previous post?

Cheerio,

Mick.



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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

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On 31 Jan 2006, at 16:44, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:



DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in  
Pismos.


I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they  
show the

symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.


How do you know the LG model from any of the others?

Jim Sanderson

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Re: introducing another gerontotechnophile

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On 30 Jan 2006, at 02:59, Der Mickster wrote:


Alrighty there,

So I got this'ere Wallstreet II (G3 300/192 megs of RAM)  - been using
it for surfing and text processing primarilyI am running OS X  
10.2



Little did I know. At any rate, no Classic apps will run, and there's
nothing to dual boot into.


No OS 9 installed?  It should boot into 9 if you want it too.  I had  
none of this with two WS's.



I'll be getting a 40-gig Travelstar pretty
soon,


great move!


if I'm getting this correctly, I should
partition it to smithereens, install OSX into the first partition, the
Classic OS into the second, and use whatever remains for bulky file
storage; any caveats you feel worth mentioning?


Don't know about partitioning to smithereens--a bit of an hyperbole,  
perhaps--but definitely in two sections with  X on the first  
partition and 9 on the second.  Install 9 first and download  
XPostFacto if you want to go to Panther, 10.3, which I would  
recommend for the following reason:



4) The Curse of the Darkened Screen. During bootup (and after the
initial apple logo vanishes), you can only see what's going on if you
use a torch or some such. Upon bootup, this can be rectified with a
single touch of the brightess regulator, but that's the only option.
If I accidentally close the lid, it goes into sleep mode and then
doesn't make the screen bright enough when it awakens. The brightness
regulator does nothing in those cases. Is there a cure?



I believe your problem stems from running Jaguar.  I've had two WS's  
with similar issues in Jaguar.  Among the video issues in 10.2 were  
artifacts left on the screen that opening a window might eliminate,  
not waking from sleep, washed out screen, melting screen effects and  
so on.  An upgrade to 10.3 solved the problem entirely.  Both  
machines have run flawlessly in Panther.



 5) Processor upgrade. Is the 250-dollar upgrade to G4 500 offered by
wegenermedia.com the best and cheapest option, or have I missed
something? Will I be better off with an equal G3? Are there any better
ways?


Some may disagree with me, but I feel that a G4 upgrade, while  
attractive, doesn't make a lot of sense on this machine.  It has a  
slower bus speed than a Lombard (or Pismo), 66 MHz vs 100 MHz.  A G3  
upgrade, maybe.  The machine is a trooper and can do all sorts of  
things that surprises my Windows friends when we compare their  
machines made at the same time as the WS.  But the bus speed, I  
think, hobbles its ability to work with such apps as Keynote and  
Pages.  There are others who can speak better to this issue.


HTH,

Jim Sanderson






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Pink Hue on Pismo display

[James Sanderson]

I am wondering if anyone here can remind me what causes the above  
symptom.  It goes away after a few seconds and the colour is fine.   
The pink colour returns after waking the comp from sleep.  The colour  
always goes away.  Is this something to be very concerned about,  
somewhat concerned about , not to worry about in the near future but...


TIA,

J Sanderson

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Re: Lombard OS X Install Crash

[James Sanderson]

Your installing OS X on the second partition, could be the issue.
It wants to be on the first partition.  Either install it there or  
don't partition.
Tried this on a WS II, installing on the second partition.  It would  
not install until I repartitioned the drive to install X on the  
first.  9 presents no such issue.


Jim Sanderson

On 8 Jan 2006, at 22:18, Scott Warnock wrote:

I know this subject has been talked about a lot on this list, and I  
went

back and checked the archives, but am still having a problem I can't
resolved. I have a 400 mhz Lombard with 320 Mg ram and a 40 Gig  
Hard Drive.
I have been trying to install OS 10.2 and it keeps crashing or  
freezing up
about a third through the install. I get the HOLD the POWER BUTTON  
DOWN

screen or it simply freezes. I tried swapping out the top Ram and no
difference. I have the Hard Drive partitioned in two and on one I  
am running

OS 9.2.2 with no problem. I am trying to install OS X on the second
partition. Can anyone tell me what else I should do or  
check...Thanks very

much. Also, I have nothing in the PCMCIA slot.

Scott



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Re: Lombard won't boot

[James Sanderson]

If this is so, and Clark says he could do this on a WS, I wonder what  
I was doing wrong.
Still, the suggestion in the past has been to start with the memory.   
If it's the L2 cache (which is a memory register--if that's the right  
term), you'll have to swap with a compatible processor card.

Well, I'll just be quiet now and learn from you good folks!

J Sanderson
On 2 Jan 2006, at 23:15, Caleb Cupples wrote:

The Lombard does have OF, because I've used it before. It's a  
NewWorld machine, similar to the Pismo.


HTH,
Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 23:08 America/Chicago, Clark Martin wrote:


At 11:48 PM -0500 1/2/06, John McGibney wrote:
Isn't the Lombard too old a design for Open Firmware? According  
to Mactracker "Hardware Test" isn't supported. The Pismo is the  
first Powerbook that is.


John



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Re: Lombard won't boot

[James Sanderson]

ah ha!  Here's the catch!  and the reason for my not being able to  
boot to Open Firmware on the WS II.  And why Kristina can't do it  
either.


Now I know the rest of the story!
Again, ta!

J Sanderson
On 2 Jan 2006, at 22:48, John McGibney wrote:

Isn't the Lombard too old a design for Open Firmware? According to  
Mactracker "Hardware Test" isn't supported. The Pismo is the first  
Powerbook that is.


John

According to Apple:
"Beginning with Power Macintosh computers with PCI slots, Power  
Macintosh computers rely on a firmware operating system called  
"Open Firmware" for controlling hardware. Open Firmware is a cross- 
platform firmware standard for controlling hardware and is used by  
all PCI-based Mac OS computers."




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Re: Lombard won't boot

[James Sanderson]

Thanks, Clark.  I'm not sure where I read--or got--the info about  
open firmware.  At the time I was having problems with a WS II.  I  
was never able to open firmware with 9, but could with X.  Maybe me  
fingers waren't workin' rright!  Thanks, again for the info.


J Sanderson
On 2 Jan 2006, at 21:49, Clark Martin wrote:


At 9:02 PM -0600 1/2/06, James Sanderson wrote:

I may be wrong, but Open Firmware is something you can do in X not 9.
To paraphrase the adage, many many problems begin with memory.   
Try swapping out what's in with known working memory or take out  
one of the sticks, to see if it boots. You would need to play  
around with this, but it could be the heart of the problem.


Open Firmware is what controls the boot up of the computer.  It is  
there regardless of what OS you are booting into be it X, 9, Linux,  
etc.

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Re: Lombard won't boot

[James Sanderson]

I may be wrong, but Open Firmware is something you can do in X not 9.
To paraphrase the adage, many many problems begin with memory.  Try  
swapping out what's in with known working memory or take out one of  
the sticks, to see if it boots. You would need to play around with  
this, but it could be the heart of the problem.


HTH,

J Sanderson
On 2 Jan 2006, at 21:02, Kristina wrote:


Thanks for the help Caleb,

I found the instructions for Open firmware


Using Open Firmware Holding down COMMAND + OPTION + O + F

used the reset button too and it did boot  but did NOT go to grey  
screen or

a prompt to reset-all...

hmmm did I do that right?

It gave the usual disk aid notice...and then this  ALARMING one!

"Built in memory test has detected a problem.
Please contact a service technician for advice."

clicked OK...and everything looked "normal".

  I was able to reboot using the other partition  which holds disk  
warrior

and ran disk warrior.

When I went to change it back to the main brain it locked  
up...and a

force restart takes me  back to black.

 service technicians?... any advice?

Kristina
near Chicago





Kristina,

Try booting into Open Firmware and typing "reset-all", I believe. I'm
not completely sure, at this rate, but the info is on Apple's site, I
think. Also, if you have the original CD that came with the 'Book,  
you

can try booting from that. Email me offlist if you don't have it, and
I'll see what I can dig up.

Hope this helps,
Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 12:07 America/Chicago, Kristina wrote:


I put it [G3-OS9.2] to sleep last night...was working fine

except sometimes the keyboard doesn't respond...I was thinking it
might need
replaced, I've had to replace everything else...why not!

This morning I turned it on, went to get coffee and when I came back
it was
at the desktop and frozen. Great!

I force quit  control+apple+ on/off button nothing

I try to rebuild the destop with extensions off...and half way  
thru the

startup list of extensions it froze

Now I can't wake it up

I tried reset button...the first time it came opened to the G3
powerbook
Icon wallpaper thingy and dialog box saying your computer did not  
shut

down
properly Disk Aid will perform necessary repairs...

when I clicked   it said that Disk Aid had performed an  
illegal
operation and is interfering with start up ...or something like  
that.


I tried to start up from a CD w Disk Warrior...I had to pop out  
the CD

drive
and pin open the drive to load the CD.

reset button to start up from CD

black as tar.

I hear fan/processor /something going on.

The HD is partitioned so there is a system folder on two of the
partitions...one has disk warrior on it...the other one is my main
brain.

Kristina



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Re: Lombard not mounting discs: Was (Pismo frozen with DVD)

[James Sanderson]

Replace the drive?  I had similar problems on my Pismo.  I replaced  
the drive and have had no problems since.


Jim Sanderson
On 30 Dec 2005, at 00:16, Caleb Cupples wrote:

IMHO, if you're going to watch anything on a Pismo or Lombard, boot  
into OS 9. It saves a whole lot of hassle, plus on the Lombard,  
it's the only way to go. I know this is slightly off the thread  
topic, but it's somewhat related, but I've been having troubles  
with discs refusing to mount on my Lombard. Sometimes it works,  
sometimes it doesn't. Today, it really annoyed me, because I had a  
brand-new CD that I was trying to get to load on the ol' Lombard  
and it refused. It was an "enhanced" CD, but it still clearly said  
on the labeling that it would work on OS 8 or 9 with QuickTime 4 or  
above. The Lombard refuses to mount it in OS X, and I don't want to  
go to OS 9, because I don't have any mp3 encoding software for 9.  
In the end, I gave up and used iTunes on my Windoze machine, but  
I'm really irritated at things for not working on the Lombard.


Any suggestions?

Caleb


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Re: wallstreet questions

[James Sanderson]

I would second this advice.  Those old 233MHz processors don't cut  
it.  Get the second generation processors.  I was informed by one on  
this list that second generation processors would work on the first  
generation machines, not vice versa.  If you were to seek an upgrade  
path to G4dom, this would allow you that option later down the road.


Jim Sanderson

On 28 Dec 2005, at 23:20, Caleb Cupples wrote:

IMHO, I'd upgrade the processor in any Wallstreet before going  
after RAM, as long as you have 128 MB or more. CD-R and RW drives  
are, no offence, extraneous gadgets that are a little farther down  
the list. However, that's only my opinion, but I'm used to a  
Lombard 400 with 192 MB of RAM and I'm looking to swap my 128 MB  
card for a 256 after I get a new battery in it.


Caleb
Lombard 400, 192 MB RAM, OS X Jaguar


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Re: wallstreet questions

[James Sanderson]

Shawn,

I have worked on a couple of WS, both I and II.  I would suggest  
avoiding OS X.2 altogether.  I had sleep and monitor issues on both  
machines that were not resolved until I upgraded to Panther installed  
using XPostFacto 3.  IIRC, there were others on the list had similar  
issues.  If you want OS X, go to Panther rather than Jaguar.



On 29 Dec 2005, at 08:07, shawn wrote:

I got my wallstreet II upgraded to 512mb just recently and it is  
recognized in os9, have not loaded 10.2 yet but will give an update.


Shawn


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Re: Pismo start up problem

[James Sanderson]

Thanks,

I thought of doing that so it reset it.  That didn't solve the  
problem.  I was able to boot of a OX 9.2 disc and reselect the start  
up volume.  Oddly, that didn't work either.  I went back to the  
processor and rearranged the SODIMM's to the original placement, the  
smaller (64 MB) in the lower slot.  Voilà, the computer started up  
without a hitch.


I wonder what that bodes for a memory upgrade for this processor.

Thanks again for your help,

and Merry Christmas!

Jim Sanderson

On 17 Dec 2005, at 02:06, Clark Martin wrote:


At 9:23 PM -0600 12/16/05, James Sanderson wrote:

Hi,

I just tried to install additional memory into a Pismo I just got.  
It was working fine before I tried to add memory to the machine.  
When I tried to start up after putting  the memory in the slots,   
I got a beep.  I tried again and got the same thing.  Figuring the  
problem was the new memory, I replaced the original memory and  
started up again.  I got the chime, but now the computer cannot  
find a start-up volume.  Tried resetting the PRAM a few times  
without luck.  Started up and went to openfirmware, reset the  
nvram successfully as the machine restarted.  But it still can't  
find a start-up volume.
Decided to try to start-up from the Tiger DVD, still no luck.  Any  
suggestions?


Check both ends of the hard drive cable, it's possible it got  
nudged. Try disconnecting each end and reconnecting it just to be  
sure.


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Pismo start up problem

[James Sanderson]

Hi,

I just tried to install additional memory into a Pismo I just got. It  
was working fine before I tried to add memory to the machine.  When I  
tried to start up after putting  the memory in the slots,  I got a  
beep.  I tried again and got the same thing.  Figuring the problem  
was the new memory, I replaced the original memory and started up  
again.  I got the chime, but now the computer cannot find a start-up  
volume.  Tried resetting the PRAM a few times without luck.  Started  
up and went to openfirmware, reset the nvram successfully as the  
machine restarted.  But it still can't find a start-up volume.   
Decided to try to start-up from the Tiger DVD, still no luck.  Any  
suggestions?


Jim Sanderson 


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Re: Real computers

[James Sanderson]

Worse yet, in my school district Macs are remembered by either the  
still working but unused Apple ][ e (there is one still in the  
Library) or one working LCIII.


On 8 Dec 2005, at 21:09, Dylan McDermond wrote:



On Dec 7, 2005, at 7:49 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote:

 Plus, they think the PowerMac 5200 is an accurate representation  
of Macs in general...



Ding! Ding! Ding! Yes, I get this attitude from people that scoff  
at Macintosh all the time. I politely tell them to have a look at  
OS X since it's obvious that they aren't familiar with any Apple OS  
since OS 7. If they can be shown, they're usually pretty impressed.


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Pink hue on Pismo display

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Listers,

What would cause the above symptom?  It goes away after a short while?
Pismo 400/192 OS 9

Jim Sanderson

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Re: WSII won't see RAM in top slot

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Interesting idea.  Does a WS II CPU work on a WS I?  I upgraded the  
processor to the 292MHz limit after I bought the machine 'cause 233  
was just too slwww.


What's BGA?

Jim Sanderson
On 30 Nov 2005, at 17:39, Tom and Lisa P wrote:


WS on Jaguar

I remember when I had all sorts of issues with mine.  All those  
kinds problems went away with the upgrade to Panther.  With the  
comp not recognising the RAM, that's probably to do with the  
processor.
One person suggested now might be the time to take advantage of  
Daystar's G4 upgrade.  That's a good idea depending on the age of  
the WS.  Mine was among the first made, evidently and could not be  
upgraded because of the type of video card, or so the good doctors  
at Daystar told me.  Because this one is a WS II, I doubt there  
would be any problem.


Jim Sanderson


Daystar (or any other rework shop) has a harder time upgrading the  
WS1 CPUs as the L2 cache parts are BGA, while the WS2 L2 cache  
parts are quad flat (easier to rework).  Find a cheap WS2 233/512K  
l2 CPU card on ebay and send that in for upgrade.


Mad Dog

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Re: WSII won't see RAM in top slot

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In a message dated 11/30/05 11:09:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Say, another question: What screen are you using with your  
Wallstreet? I
think I remember surmizing awhile back that the brightness issue  
may be because my
friend has a 12.1" active matrix (not the more common 12.1" passive  
matrix)
LCD on his Wallstreet. I am wondering if the problem exists with  
13.3" or 14.1"

Active matrix LCDs also.


Nope.  Worked with a 14" WS II with the same issues with video.   
Video problems went away with Panther installed.  The memory issue  
has to do with processor limitations.  My old processor on the WSI  
12" will not see more than 128 in either slot, IIRC.   The 14" WS II  
had no problem seeing 256.


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Re: WSII won't see RAM in top slot

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WS on Jaguar

I remember when I had all sorts of issues with mine.  All those kinds  
problems went away with the upgrade to Panther.  With the comp not  
recognising the RAM, that's probably to do with the processor.
One person suggested now might be the time to take advantage of  
Daystar's G4 upgrade.  That's a good idea depending on the age of the  
WS.  Mine was among the first made, evidently and could not be  
upgraded because of the type of video card, or so the good doctors at  
Daystar told me.  Because this one is a WS II, I doubt there would be  
any problem.


Jim Sanderson


PS:  Hook 'em horns!

On 30 Nov 2005, at 10:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



In a message dated 11/29/05 5:48:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


That may not have anything to do with your RAM problem.  10.2.8 does
that to many WS -- you need to press the brightness button below the
display once startup has reached the desktop.


I can bear witness to that... a friend has a Wallstreet with  
10.2.x, and he

has to adjust brightness whenever he starts it up.

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Re: keyboard marks on the screen

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Or you could buy a piece of felt and place it over the keys.

Jim Sanderson
On 27 Nov 2005, at 14:10, John Roberts wrote:

I have a PB G4 400 MHz. I used to get gunk (oil/dirt) transferred  
from my keyboard to screen. A couple of years ago a wise friend  
advised me to keep a paper towel over the keyboard when the  
powerbook is closed. I use one sheet of Bounty Select-a-Size and  
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Re: OS X on G3 Series PowerBook

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On 12 Sep 2005, at 14:48, Art Richard wrote:


Laurent,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I reseated all of the PC board  
connections inside my Powerbook, made sure the screws were tight  
holding the heat shield against the CPU, and then put spacers under  
the outside of the case and set-up a fan blowing air around and  
under the unit to keep it cool.  I then attempted to install OS X.   
In several tries, it froze-up each time; the best was at 6 minutes  
remaining on the installation.  It appears that I really will  
remain on OS-9.2, which has worked very well and never freezes-up.


Art Richard  (St. Petersburg, FL)



I know this is probably not going to be helpful for getting X on the  
WS; however, I had a similar problem installing X on a B/W.  I tried  
and tried and tried and tried.   I swapped memory and tried a number  
of things that didn't work.  Then I gave up.   One day a FEW months  
later--about seven--I gave it a try. And lo!  it installed without a  
hitch.  I have  no clue why after so many months it allowed the  
installation.
I guess the point is that you can try all the freakin' tech stuff  
that should allow you to do what you know you should be able to do on  
the machine, but the machine sometimes decides when it will do it.  ;-)


Serious suggestion:  try a different HD.  I had a WS--a 4 GB  
original--that would do the same thing when I was installing X.2.  I  
bought a new HD--a 20 GB--and partitioned it per the specs and-- 
voilá!--it installed without a hitch.  Also, I have had terrible luck  
installing and working with X.2 on a WS.  X.3 has proven flawless.


Jim Sanderson
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Re: importing bookmarks from Netscape to Safari?

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On 8 Sep 2005, at 16:53, Anne Judge wrote:



On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


I don't know if it's the best way to do it, but I had noticed it in  
passing so I'll pass it on: OnyX has an import bookmarks checkbox  
in Appearance->Safari.


(I use the appearance-tweaking parts of OnyX to pin my dock at the  
trash end so the trash can doesn't scoot out of the way when I try  
to drag something onto it, and noticed this in exploring the other  
settings.)


Anne


Onyx is good!  You can tell it to enable the debug menu for Safari.   
After the restart you can import the bookmarks from the debug menu.   
You also get a good maintenance utility for free.


J Sanderson

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Re: Wallstreet, OS X and Wavelan Gold

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On 7 Sep 2005, at 12:44, Ken wrote:

I've successfully used the sourceforge driver in a Wallstreet w/ 
Orinoco

Gold.  Try installing again with your Wavelan in the slot.  Then shut
down, and restart with the Wavelan still in the slot.  Go to Sys
Prefs/Network and check the drop-down menu for Network Port
Configurations; IIRC, there should be a new ethernet port (en1 or  
en2)

in the list.  Select the new port and check that your TCP/IP and
AppleTalk settings are correct.

Gene Osburn



Thanks. Tried that. Even tried to install twice. Never got the  
optional
port. Installed the IOXperts driver and it worked with no problem.  
Would

have been nice to have a "free" driver, but...

Ken


Yep.  Been there, tried that.  Same results.

J Sanderson

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Re: Wallstreet, OS X and Wavelan Gold

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IOXperts.  The offer a driver for OS X.  Google for it.  I don't  
remember the address.  It's functionality is limited to 30 minutes at  
a time unless you buy the driver for $20 (for the Silver card I have).


J Sanderson

On 6 Sep 2005, at 22:48, Ken wrote:


This message written: Tuesday, 6 September 2005 20:44:45 PDT

Have been trying to learn OS X. Installed 10.2.8 on a Wallstreet/300.
Seems faster than I expected. The only hangup seems to be that now I
can't get the Wavelan Gold working. I installed a Sourceforge drive  
that

is supposed to work, but no go. It shows up in the list of PC cards in
the menu bar, but is not shown as a choice in the networking "control
panel." Any suggestions?

Ken

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Re: upgrading my wallstreet

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On 29 Aug 2005, at 19:29, Lisa & Tom P wrote:


You can also get upgrades from Daystar [snip].  I bought a G4/466  
from Daystar for $210. It works great.


Mad Dog




I didn't find any Wallstreet upgrades at Daystar.  Wegener's prices  
seem quite for a G3 upgrade to 400 MHz.


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Re: Problem with Wallstreet HD install

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On 23 Jun 2005, at 12:03, Ben Woodard wrote:


I haven't tried the metal strip because I thought this
was related only to sleep issues and newer drives did
not have the problem. Could be wrong.


No, you're right.  I didn't know if you had an old drive or a new one.


It seems to be a problem with booting from the cd. I
can do it with the old drive, but not the new.


Curious.  Try another disc?


 does the computer have
to see a hd even if there is no OS on it?


No.  The computer should be able to boot from the CD as long as it  
can read it.  The computer will look for a boot volume.  When it  
doesn't find one it should flash the folder icon with a '?' (OS X) or  
the sad Mac (OS 9).  If you tell it to boot from the CD by holding  
down the 'c' button, I think it should boot.



Maybe there is something wrong with the new drive.


Could be.  Do you have access to another HD, other than the old one,  
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Re: Wallstreet issues

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On 23 Jun 2005, at 06:33, Lisa & Tom P wrote:


So you had a G4 card and a Travelstar under OS 9, and that caused  
the problem ?  I wonder if there is some setting for the drive that  
can be changed ?


thanks,

Mad Dog


This is what happens when I read posted too late at night.  Your  
issue isn't exactly as mine was.   I had a WS II with a stock G3/282  
in it.  The TravelStar HD was an older model without the liquid  
bearing.  Something about the placement of the HD in the WS causes  
the older drives to freeze up, something about magnetism...  Anyway  
the older drives need to have some kind of shielding placed on them  
to keep them from locking up.  The one I had was really bad; it would  
lock up after going to sleep; at times it would lock up on start up;  
at times is would lock up if it idled to long (after I disabled the  
sleep mode).  Since your machine seems to lock up regardless of the  
OS, perhaps the HD is the problem.  I don't believe there are any  
settings on the HD itself to change.
 I suggested this because you seem to steer away from the heat  
issue.  I don't recall if the fan on my WS runs full time, though I  
imagine it must.  If yours doesn't, perhaps the fan itself is  
defective or the connector is not making full contact.  You're right  
it does seem to be a software issue with 9 since the machine performs  
with the cache write-through on in X.  Perhaps you should contact  
Daystar about this; they were always quite helpful to me with the  
upgrades I made on my older Power PC's, very responsive.


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Re: Problem with Wallstreet HD install

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Decided today to try to get a little more life out of
the old Wallstreet by putting in a new hd. I had a 30g
Hitachi i bought six months ago and stuck it in.
Holding down the C key I tried to boot to the 10.2
disk, but only got the flashing question mark. This
made no sense so I tried resetting pram, power
manager, tried an external keyboard, used a zip with
9.1 on it, and diskwarrior but no luck.
Thinking I must have damaged something, I took the new
drive out and replaced the old. It started up and I
was able to boot the 10.2 disk. Put the new drive in
an enclosure, hooked it up to my G4 and formatted and
partioned it. Back into the Wallstreet and the same
problem.
I have installed a number of drives over the years,
but this has me stumped. Its got to be something
simple I'm overlooking - a real forehead smacker.
Could someone please tell me what I'm missing here?


Rereading this post led me to understand that you have a clean  
HD without any OS on it.  Boot from a OS 9 CD.  Partition the HD in  
two sections, the first partition must be less than 8 GB.  Install OS  
9 on the second partition.  I don't know if you can do this from your  
Zip drive, unless you have the disk utility on it. After installing  
the OS, restart the machine using OS 9 then download XPF and install  
OS X.3 using XPF on the first partition.  I would not install X.2 on  
the Wall Street as it causes all sorts of flaky monitor behaviours,  
like a 'melting' effect from which you cannot recover without a  
restart, no wake from sleep,  desktop pictures that are partially  
scrambled cured by moving an open window around (mine did this on the  
lower portion of the monitor only).  The first two are the real 'turn- 
offs,' though.
I have a 12" WS I upgraded to a 300 MHz processor and 83 MHz bus  
as a result of the upgrade and added a larger HD as you are doing.  X. 
3 has run with a hitch and smoothly even with only 160 MB of RAM.  I  
have also worked on a WS II with a 14.1" screen, doing much the  
same.  I had the same issues with X.2 on it as well, but no problems  
with X.3.  If you should go to X.3 do follow XPF's directions for  
installation carefully as there is a video issue with a WS  
installation of X.3.


HTH

J Sanderson

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Re: Wallstreet issues

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On 22 Jun 2005, at 20:53, Lisa & Tom P wrote:



Has anyone figured out a way to get the fan on a Wallstreet to  
actually run during operations ?  The WS seems to run pretty how  
with either the G3/300 or a G4/466.


On a separate note, I am having some trouble with my new G4/466  
upgrade from Daystar.  I noticed after running a few minutes under  
OS X 10.3.9, the unit would lock up the first time it went to  
sleep. Under OS 9.2.2, the unit would lock up within 60 seconds of  
booting. This did not appear to be a heat issue.


After installing the XLR8 software, and using the write through  
cache setting, the lockups under OS X stopped and the unit runs  
fine in X. I did the same for OS 9.2.2, and it didnt improve  
anything.  I tried an entirely different hard drive with 9.2.2 on  
it, and the same lock up occurred.  I made sure to enable power  
conservation under both OS versions.  it also doesnt seem to be RAM  
related.


This appears to be some sort of software issue with OS 9 and a G4.  
Has anyone run across this type of problem before ?


Only when I used an old TravelStar HD.  It would do exactly as you  
describe.  Doubt this is a software issue.


J Sanderson

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Re: remove an icon in the menu bar

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On 21 Jun 2005, at 03:57, Luis Sequeira wrote:


I am surprised no one answered this (I'm catching up on a few  
digests, and figured there would be a bunch of replies...); the  
answer is "hold down the command key and drag the icon out of the  
menu bar".


Luis Sequeira


Perhaps the answer was so simple everyone else figured I would figure  
it out...  thanks a bunch for your help!


J Sanderson

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Re: DVD.app error

[James Sanderson]

How did you install Tiger?


On 10 Jun 2005, at 23:59, Rad Craig wrote:

OSX isn't supposed to run on Wallstreets either, but many people do  
run it successfully.  According to Apples specs, it (Lombard) is  
designed to support OSX:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=43120

Not Tiger, because of the firewire, but still.

That message seemed like some kind of configuration error, like  
perhaps there might be a file that I can edit?


My Lombard came with DVD drive in it, when I bought it used.  My  
Pismo has a DVD and it works fine, I didn't think there was that  
much of a difference between the two other than the firewire.



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Re: Wallstreet Dual-Boot Issues .....

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On 3 Jun 2005, at 08:54, Pacer wrote:


My Fellow PowerBook-philes,

...Well.  One of them is real nice, an upgraded Wallstreet to  
466 Mhz

and with full RAM.  I have Mac OS X.2.8 running on it.

But the screen does this funky thing where the backlight on the LCD
stops working when it boots up.  To fix it, all you need to do is hit
the "brightness" button.  When it goes to sleep, however, it seems to
not want to come back up.

I have read on Lowendmac.com (I'll find this link later) that if you
boot into OS 9, let it go to sleep, then bring it back up, boot back
into OS X then it should be fixed.  (At least until you let your
batteries die while your Wallstreet is asleep again.)


I have a WS I that had the same issues only in in X.2.x.  When I  
upgraded to X.3.x, the backlighting and display sleep went away  
problems and never came back.   I will admit that I have never tried  
putting the hard drive to sieep because I used to have an old  
Travelstar 20 GB that would lock up if it did.  I never changed the  
setting after I changed the hard drive.


If you don't have Panther or you don't want to go through the trouble  
of upgrading (the upgrade requires you to use Xpostfacto 3), let the  
buyer put it on the machine.  Take X off.  The machine is upgradeable  
and runs X.3 competently even with only 160 MB's, which is all I have  
on mine.  It's not blazing fast; it's useable if all the buyer wants  
is to do word processing, reading mail, and surfing the internet.  I  
know that the more memory there is the better the machine operates; I  
simply haven't put it on this one.


Forget all this other stuff.  It doesn't sound like it's worth the  
hassle, especially if you want to sell it.



Well  sounds easy to fix, yes?  No.

I have an OS 9.1 install disk.  It is a backup copy of a broken  
one, so

it is a CD-R.

I can't install OS 9 with it.  (Won't boot into OS 9.)

I then tried to copy over an OS 9 folder which works booting another
Wallstreet which only runs OS 9 by copying it onto a Flash Card and  
then

back into the OS 9 folder.

No dice.  Won't boot.

What I do is go to System Preference-> Startup Disk and then choose  
the

OS 9 partition with the OS 9 start folder.

I then reboot and it reboots into a gray screen.  I then have to spend
the next half-hour to an hour trying to convince it to reboot into the
Mac OS X.2 install CD I have and then I have to reinstall OS X.  (BTW,
the LCD Backlight will not work when doing this.  Loads of fun.)

I'd really like to resell this computer at least at the same price I
bought it at, maybe more, and I think I would be able to do so if I
could 1) get the backlight working and/or 2) get OS 9 to dual boot  
on it.


I could really use the money in order to look into upgrading my GF's
Pismo to use iSight (if possible) or just paying down some credit  
cards

before I go to law school.

Does anyone have ANY ideas on what I can do???


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Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?

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On 24 May 2005, at 15:01, macnifico wrote:


Hi again, Listers!

Thank you all for your opinions, tips, etc.
One thing that I found is that I still do not learn the names of  
the versions, so I'm always wondering if Panther is X.3 or X.2.


Panther=X.3
Jaguar=X.2

Jaguar ran slowly on the WSI with a 233 processor as the WS I/233 has  
no cache and a lower bus speed (66 mhz).  With an upgrade to 292 one  
gains 1 MB of L2 cache and bump in the bus speed to 83 mhz.  These  
gains allow the WS I to run Panther (X.3) competently.  It's not  
blazing fast, but for strolling along the 'superhighway', reading e- 
mail, and doing word processing this is acceptable to me.



It's all relative.


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Re: Mac OS X.3.9 on Wallstreet 233MHz?

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On 23 May 2005, at 20:53, macnifico wrote:


Hi, Listers!

I'm getting a Wallstreet with a 6 Gb HD, 288 Mb RAM, and 233 MHz G3.
It's going to be used mainly for light Web browsing, and a few  
Excel spreadsheests. Nothing processor-intensive.
I was wondering if OS X.3 would run OK on this machine, or if I  
should stay with OS 9.2.2. I have OS X.2, too. But I've grown  
acustomed (spell?) to OS X.3.9, it runs very well in my iMac 400  
MHz with 320 Mb.

Thank you for your input.
HD


Runs great on my WS I/292, with only 162MB.  I think about how much  
better it would be if it could support more memory, but I've had some  
issues with larger memory.  The sound of broken glass at startup with  
two different sticks that work in other computers.  It did this with  
the original processor, too, a 233 like yours.  I think that the  
processor upgrade would be worthwhile if you really like Panther more  
than Jaguar.  This comp had issues with Jaguar; it ran more slowly,  
wouldn't wake from sleep, and it had some serious video issues  
(screen would turn blank, for example, or it would 'melt').  The  
upgrade to Panther fixed all those issues, but ran slowly until I  
upgraded the processor, not that it's blazing fast now, mind, but it  
runs quite well for my needs.


J Sanderson

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Re: Locked Folder

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Thanks, Bruce!  have saved me the hassle of looking at the blasted 
thing for eternity.  It was indeed the "folder from hell."
It has two spawn.  I can use the same command, just change the 
directory to the drive that it is on to eliminate the vermin, right?

Jim Sanderson
On 23 Apr 2005, at 11:34, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Apr 22, 2005, at 4:20 PM, James Sanderson wrote:
open the offending folder so it has it's own window.
Start Terminal.
type cd and drag the folder icon from the window above to the 
termoonal window. That will add the full path of the folder to the 
command line (there has to be a space between the cd and the path.

If you do it right it'll look somehwat like this:
the-pismo:~ johnson$ cd /Users/johnson/Programs/tnef-1.3.2
Hit return.
Now close the finder window of the folder.
Now type cd .. and hit return. That moves you back up the directory 
tree and the prompt should look like:

the-pismo:~ johnson$ cd /Users/johnson/Programs/tnef-1.3.2
the-pismo:~/Programs/tnef-1.3.2 johnson$ cd ..
the-pismo:~/Programs johnson$
now type:
sudo rm -rf 
If the folder name has spaces, enclose the name in double quotes, like 
this:

sudo rm -rf "Folder from Hell"
You will be asked for your admin password, and perhaps offered a bit 
of advice about being polite with other people's files, if this is the 
first tiome you've run sudo,

The folder should be deleted.
typing ls then hitting return should show that the folder doesn't 
exist anymore (The finder may still show it, sometimes updates are a 
bit slow)

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Re: Locked Folder

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On 22 Apr 2005, at 19:00, John McGibney wrote:
There used to be a utility called "Folder From Hell" that worked in OS 
7
thru 9 to delete problem folders. There's probably a utility like that 
for
X. Check out this link and see if it helps:


John
Just tried it.  It didn't work.  It does not allow me to move it to 
another file. It says, "operation cannot be completed because Mark 
Twain is locked."  (Yes, that's really the name of the folder)  It can 
be copied to another drive, which results in having yet another folder 
named "Mark Twain" that is locked and can't be gotten rid of.

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Re: Locked Folder

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On 22 Apr 2005, at 10:59, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Click on the padlock to unlock it.
I laughed outloud when I read this, thinking that had to be too easy. 
It unlocked the owner alright but,
while it allows me to change ownership, I am already the owner.  The 
option to unlock the folder remains greyed out, so I can't get rid of 
this pesky thing.

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Re: Locked Folder

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On 21 Apr 2005, at 05:55, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
Did you check the "Owner & Permissions" section in the Info window? 
You can
try to change the owner there, apply the changes to all enclosed 
items. Did
you try that?

-Laurent.
Yes, I did check that.  The owner's name, mine, shows a padlock next to 
it and the name is greyed out.

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Locked Folder

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How do you unlock a folder that is ensconced on the desktop?  I've 
already tried the Get Info route; the option for unlocking the file is 
greyed out.  Is there a way to unlock it in terminal?  Or do I log into 
root? If so, how?  When I tried to trash the folder am told that I 
don't have enough privileges even though I am the administrator for the 
computer.   If I try to add  to it, I am prompted for my password and 
the folder seems to be opened but when I drag to it I am told again 
that I don't have the privileges.

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Re: Wallstreet start up

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On 27 Jan 2005, at 21:38, Ben Dyer wrote:
How old is the battery? If you start the computer up, then pull the 
power cable out, does it stay on? Sometimes old batteries get confused 
about their charge status, and say they're full when they are in fact 
holding no charge at all.

Cheers,
Ben
I don't know the age of the battery.  I can disconnect it from the 
adapter and it stays on and gives my a full run of 3+ hours.  I've done 
this several (3-4) times since I've gotten this computer.

Ta
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Wallstreet start up

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What would keep a WS from starting up with a fully charged battery?  
The battery indicates that it is fully charged.  The computer starts up 
just fine with the adaptor connected.  When the computer is on the 
indicator says that the battery is fully charged.  I have started the 
computer with the battery only before.  The PMU has been replaced; I 
know it works cause before I replaced it this battery that I have was 
discharged.  The charging unit (or whatever it's called) is also new to 
the computer.

Suggestions please?
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Re: Wallstreet problem

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So to avoid being redundant, what have you done so far?
J Sanderson
On 24 Jan 2005, at 20:49, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
I know, stumped me this time. Can't figure it out, tried everything.
Sometimes tech's don't even have a correct answer. I tried resetting
the PMU. Not a thing
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Re: Even more Pismo Problems!

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PRAM battery.  It seems that replacing it solves a number of issues, 
though not your mysterious crack.

j sanderson
On 16 Jan 2005, at 21:23, Dyna wrote:
	Yes, this is the same 2000 vintage Pismo I've been writing about for 
the last couple months... Initial symptoms were freezes and eventually 
wouldn't boot at all. After replacing the hard drive and a fresh 
install of OSs 9.1 and 10.2 it was working better. In fact at times it 
would go for a few hours without freezing. But the freezes are back, 
even after I took out the processor card and reseated it. I did note 
some dirtyness where the processor contacts the heat sink though, and 
like another listmember's my case is also mysteriously cracked.

Any suggestions?
thanks,
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Re: Dead Pismo

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The other thing to consider would be the PMU.  I'm thinking about all  
the components that have to do with power management.  The PMU and/or  
the Sound Card are the most likely culprits of your problem.  I'm not  
so sure that the logic board would be at fault.  That's not to say that  
it couldn't be but...
As for the PMU, it is separate from the mb.  Follow this link to see a  
picture of it:   
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Power___Charger_PMU_Battery_Board_Pismo- 
p-16137.html
It is on slide 22 at the 'take apart' link I sent you yesterday.

There is this from xlr8yourmac.com about the PMU reset:
...Most often it is due to a dead cell in the backup battery, or just a  
corrupted PMU. The problem is that you can't reset the PMU correctly  
from a dead backup battery. You can zap the PMU, which will get the  
backup battery charging again. Then reset it in a few hours when the  
battery has some charge. The steps are below.
If this doesn't correct it, then they most likely have a bad (not just  
dead, but bad cell) battery that is corrupting the PMU on its own. The  
first suggested fix is an accurate set of PMU resets as follows.

 RESETTING THE PMU
 A corrupted PMU (Power Management Unit) board can cause many  
sleep/startup issues.
 The PMU is the Power Management Unity of the system. When the  
batteries are completely drained, draining too fast, or a battery with  
a bad cell exists, or if the AC adapter is unplugged from the wall, but  
left connected to the PowerBook, the PMU can become corrupted
 If the internal motherboard backup battery has become completely  
drained, then a 2nd PMU reset will be needed about 4 hours after the  
1st PMU reset and the system has been plugged in for at least an hour  
(once the motherboard battery has enough power to reset the PMU  
properly). The first reset (due to a dead MB battery) wipes the PMU.  
The second reset (using the charged MB battery) rewrites the PMU with  
long-term firmware.
 Before resetting the PMU, check all connections. If possible. Put the  
system to sleep and insert a known good battery, then test.
 Reset the PMU as follows:
 Unplug the AC from the PowerBook.
 Eject the battery(s).
 Depress the PowerBook reset switch ONE TIME (in the back by the modem,  
marked by a white triangle).
 Wait 10 seconds.
 Replug the AC.
 Reinsert the Battery.
 Restart the system.
 After the system has had about 4 hours of "plugged in" time, repeat  
the PMU reset as outlined above. This will rewrite the correct PMU code  
using the trickle from the motherboard battery's charge to do the  
writing.
 If the system still does not charge/drain/startup correctly. You can  
try a hard motherboard reset. Follow the same instructions above, but  
after #2, lift the keyboard and unplug the motherboard battery (lower  
right above CD bay, three wire connector), wait 10 minutes then  
proceed. After running for an hour on AC, do a normal PMU reset.
 Best regards,
 Gary Dailey
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Re: Dead Pismo

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If you are dead in the water, so to speak, it would seem a power issue 
(duh).  So, you may want to check the sound card as it is where the 
power adaptor connects to the computer.  A take apart slide show can be 
found here:  http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum7.html
It seems that this is a place to start since the Pismo booted, then 
panicked, and failed to restart.  Moreover, you're not getting anything 
anywhere, not even a hint that the power is connected, battery or A/C.  
Perhaps while you're in the innards you should check the connexions, 
making sure they are secure.

I am suprised that there haven't been more suggestions.
HTH
J Sanderson
On 14 Jan 2005, at 15:38, CHARLES RICHARDS wrote:
I tried resetting the PMU according to the instructions found at 
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449, after waiting 
for several seconds (more than five) I tried to boot up. Nothing. Any 
other suggestions. Incidentally I have nothing active or on in any 
external ports.

Charlie
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Re: Dead Pismo

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On 13 Jan 2005, at 15:52, John C. Swanson wrote:
got a message to hold
down the start up button for several seconds.
IIRC, this is a kernal panic induced by who knows what.  This happened 
on my WS I while I had a USB card installed.  I was able to restart 
after removing it.  But, no doubt your situation is different.
I think I'd start with a reset of the PMU.  That fixed a boot issue 
with one WS I worked on.  The PMU was eventually replaced along with 
the PRAM battery.  This solved a number of issues on that comp...
To reset the PMU go to this page: 
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449
Try this.  Also, you probably should try to start up from the CD and 
repair permissions, etc.

HTH
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Wallstreet loses settings

[James Sanderson]

Here's my problem.  I installed 10.3 on a WS 1/233 with 288MB desktop.  
It booted into it just fine; would sleep and wake just fine; the video 
wouldn't white out.  It seemed pretty stable.  I shut down after a day, 
allowing it to shut down and restart per a schedule I set.  Everything 
worked fine.  After using it for a time, I shut down for a whole day.  
When I restarted the darn thing booted into 9.2.  Now it boots into 9 
all the time.  To get to 10 I have a ritual I have to go through.  Boot 
into 9, try to reset the start disk, freeze, restart into 9, reset the 
start up disk, restart.  It has done this consistently for three days 
now.  Yesterday the date and time reset.  It holds the time when it 
finally boots into 10, but looses it when it boots into 9.
Would only the PRAM battery be the culprit of all this quirkiness?

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Re: Shift-option-cmd-power key combo ?

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On 4 Jan 2005, at 06:20, Amber wrote:
...I do...sorry.  I meant, Cmd, Option, Shift and power key.
Thanks for the link Fabian !
This resets the PMU (Power Management Unit), which controls such things 
as sleep.

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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On 2 Jan 2005, at 15:14, CR wrote:
Right, Apple System Profiler,
tells me my built in memory,
 but it doesn't tell me what slots or size of each "chip".
I guess one has to open it up.
Cliff
Which OS are you running?  If it's Panther, you go to the apple 
menu>about this Mac.  When the little window opens telling you about 
your Mac, you click on 'more info.'  The system profile window comes up 
and you would click on memory where it tells you what you have where.  
I don't believe Jag did this, however.

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Re: WS I and sleep

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On 2 Jan 2005, at 13:59, Clark Martin wrote:
At 8:13 AM -0600 1/2/05, James Sanderson wrote:
Here is something I have discovered and would never have thought to 
do so!  I have, as I have mentioned, a WS I/ 233/288.  I had a couple 
of familiar problems with it:  not waking from sleep and the random 
but annoying video white out.  I assumed that the issue was a PMU 
that needed replacing and/or a bad inverter.  However, I proceeded to 
install Panther using XPF because I am both foolhardy and intrepid.  
(In keeping with the season) Lo!  the issue resolved itself!  I have 
had the machine on Panther for 36 hours, turning it off and on a 
couple of times.  I have put the computer to sleep and been able to 
awaken it without a hitch.  I would never have thought that the these 
two issues would be resolved by using an OS that is not intended for 
the machine!  There is a God after all!  Miracles DO happen!.
 ... it could simply be a fluke.
Now that is a positive thought!
But it is strange how an unsupported Mac would have a number of 'small' 
issues fixed by an OS upgrade.  Kyle, what do you think?

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WS I and sleep

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Here is something I have discovered and would never have thought to do 
so!  I have, as I have mentioned, a WS I/ 233/288.  I had a couple of 
familiar problems with it:  not waking from sleep and the random but 
annoying video white out.  I assumed that the issue was a PMU that 
needed replacing and/or a bad inverter.  However, I proceeded to 
install Panther using XPF because I am both foolhardy and intrepid.   
(In keeping with the season) Lo!  the issue resolved itself!  I have 
had the machine on Panther for 36 hours, turning it off and on a couple 
of times.  I have put the computer to sleep and been able to awaken it 
without a hitch.  I would never have thought that the these two issues 
would be resolved by using an OS that is not intended for the machine!  
There is a God after all!  Miracles DO happen!
Now if I could...

Have a Merry New Year and be happy in the remaining Christmastide and 
beyond.

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Re: Video problems on WS I

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Forgot about this issue with the 13" WSI.  I should have specified that 
the computer in question is a 12.1".

On 1 Jan 2005, at 23:58, Mikael Byström wrote:
If it's a 13" and the problem kind of phases in, then it's most likely
the display cable that needs replacing (or at least being reinserted). 
If
not the 13" I'm not sure.
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Swapping Diplays

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I am wondering if it is possible to swap the display on the first gen 
Wallstreets with the active matrix display of the second generation.
Is this possible?  If not, why not?

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Video problems on WS I

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I have received a first generation 233 WS and have already begun 
mapping out the needed improvements to make it worthy of the Wallstreet 
name.  However, I need to know what might be the cause of the video 
occasionally going "blank."  It looks like someone just upped the 
brightness to the extreme and I can't reset it unless I restart.  Might 
it be the PMU?  an inverter going out?

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Re: Ram in a Wallstreet

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I bought from them for my first B&W and had to take out the memory in 
order to install Panther.  Later I purchased a second B&W and moved the 
RamDirect memory to that comp.   I tried upgrading and had nothing but 
difficulty.  After two months, I decided to try to upgrade a second 
time and did it without a hitch.  Go figure!
I have never had any difficulty with OWC memory, however.

On 1 Jan 2005, at 11:32, PETE wrote:
How about memory from RamDirect? They're about ten
bucks cheaper than OWC.
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I can second this comment from personal experience.
OS X is picky
about memory; it doesn't matter the size.  I haven't
had any issues
with OWC memory.
On 1 Jan 2005, at 09:47, Ken wrote:
Maybe yes, maybe no. I have heard some grumbles
with some
brands of 256MB DIMMs. Just be sure to get a
"low-profile"
DIMM for the bottom slot. There isn't room for the
"normal"
sized one. Best if seller specifies the DIMM is
for the
Wallstreet bottom slot.
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Ram in a Wallstreet

[James Sanderson]

I can second this comment from personal experience.  OS X is picky 
about memory; it doesn't matter the size.  I haven't had any issues 
with OWC memory.

On 1 Jan 2005, at 09:47, Ken wrote:
Maybe yes, maybe no. I have heard some grumbles with some
brands of 256MB DIMMs. Just be sure to get a "low-profile"
DIMM for the bottom slot. There isn't room for the "normal"
sized one. Best if seller specifies the DIMM is for the
Wallstreet bottom slot.
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Re: Mac CD-RW Burners

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I realised that the address is wrong.  That should be ESBuy.com
On Sunday, May 16, 2004, at 03:32 PM, James Sanderson wrote:
If your in the market and have some dinero, go to easybuy.com.  They 
have the latest Pioneer 107, a superdrive, for under $100 and free 
shipping.
Got mine works great

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Re: Mac CD-RW Burners

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If your in the market and have some dinero, go to easybuy.com.  They 
have the latest Pioneer 107, a superdrive, for under $100 and free 
shipping.
Got mine works great


on 16/05/04 15:16, Amanda Ward at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all,
I recently bought an Iomega USB CD-RW burner that the packaging said
was "Mac Compatible". Well yeah, I can burn CD-R media and read
audio/data disks using Toast (Of course Iomega doesn't yet support OS
X). While that's okay, I really wanted the RW capability and to be 
able
to burn from iTunes. Anyone know of any software that will allow me to
read and write to RW media?

While I'm at it, how about any suggestions for other drives that might
accomplish the task.
I'm running a B&W G3 with a G4-450 CPU and Jaguar 10.2.8

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Weird message

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I am trying to install OS X "jaguar' into a WS I/292 and keep getting a 
mysterious message about the CD.  The machine can't read it and wants 
to either eject or initialize.  If I am patient it will finally read 
the CD after ejecting and reinserting it a few times.  But with the 
installation of the OS requiring a startup from the CD, this is rather 
difficult (though I did try consecutive start-restart cycles).
What would cause this problem?  Is it the CD-ROM?  Or something else?

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Re: HD sizes

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Thanks, Gary.

On May 8, 2004, at 5:53 PM, Gary D. Adams wrote:

9.5 mm will work fine. As long as it's not larger than the original 
drive in height.

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HD sizes

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I am looking to replace a 20 GB TravelStar (the older type) in my WS I 
and have found some laptop HD's that are 2.5" and 9.5mm high for a good 
price.  Does the height matter or do I need to find a 12.5 mm high HD?

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Re: USB/WS II Question

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Try Macally.com?

On May 7, 2004, at 5:14 AM, Bob wrote:

 I need to connect a USB 2.0 laser printer to my WS
II, which will require a PCMCIA card. My drive is partitioned and I
have multiple systems on it, so I need to have a card that will work
with OS 8.6, 9.x and OS X (10.2.4).


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Re: ALSO - Wallstreet LCD fading to white...!

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This is the very problem I have had.  I am awaiting a PMU (Power 
Management Unit), which I have been informed is a possible source of 
sleep problems among other things, the replacement of which may also 
solve a start up problem.  My WS goes to sleep immediately after the 
execution of services and refuses to be awakened.
I was also told that a dead PRAM (CMOS) battery might affect this, but 
you would know that this battery needs changing if the computer can no 
longer keep the date and time.

J Sanderson
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On 26/04/04 10:30, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I forgot to add that, if I put my WS to sleep by closing the lid 
(while the
screen is faded out 2 white), the problems disappears for a moment on 
wakeup.
Or goes completely away, as it has right now...
I've never heard about this problem but it seems to be the screen 
itself,
not the mobo.

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Re: self replacing a powerbook Power Management Unit (PMU)

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On Monday, April 26, 2004, at 07:15 AM, Wayne wrote:
The cost of the PMU is about $300 new
At one of these sites I found them for about US$99.  I don't know how 
that converts to AU$.   The site did not indicate if the parts were 
used, refurbished or new.

As far as doing it yourself, it is one of the hardest parts to replace 
(in
my opinion) since you must take apart the entire bottom casing after
removing the screen.
While it can seem intimidating, if you are careful and pay attention to 
what you are doing, it isn't difficult.  I had to replace the PRAM 
battery in a WS I, which required me to take the computer apart.  I had 
it apart in 20 minutes and back together again in less than 15 with all 
the screws and connexions in place.  This was the first time I had to 
do this, too.

Try this site if this is the route you chose:
http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum3.html  for WallStreet
http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum5.html  for Lombard
http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum7.html  for Pismo
These are take-apart slide shows.
HTH
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Re: vanishing battery

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Power Management Unit.  It is located on the right side of the track 
pad.  Evidently when this goes bad weird things happen.

J Sanderson
On Sunday, April 25, 2004, at 07:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 6:24 PM -0500 4/25/04, James Sanderson wrote:
PMU issues maybe?
On Sunday, April 25, 2004, at 06:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My son's Wallstreet, running OSX 10.2.8, cannot "see" its power 
supply
(yoyo) and consequently the battery has  run down  and the machine 
will
not work.  I've tried two, both of which worked previously.

 Anyone have  (and solve) a similar problem?

PMU?
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Re: vanishing battery

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PMU issues maybe?
On Sunday, April 25, 2004, at 06:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My son's Wallstreet, running OSX 10.2.8, cannot "see" its power supply
(yoyo) and consequently the battery has  run down  and the machine will
not work.  I've tried two, both of which worked previously.
 Anyone have  (and solve) a similar problem?
 Thanks,

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Re: Wallstreet question

[James Sanderson]

Here it is:

http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum3.html

It's a slide show, sort of.

J Sanderson

On Wednesday, April 21, 2004, at 05:29  pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know where I can get a manual for a Wallstreet. I need to
know how to take it apart and upgrade the hard drive for a friend. I've
done this on my Pismo but I can't seem to get the Wallstreet apart and
don't want to force the issue.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: on WS PMUs going bad

[James Sanderson]

Symptoms sound very familiar!

On Wednesday, April 21, 2004, at 03:09  pm, Wayne wrote:
I have a Wallstreet 2, and after much work, we determined it was also 
the
PMU going bad. It started with 2-3 restarts, by the time I retired the
computer, it could take as much as 20 + forced restarts until it 
finally
went through start up. Once there, it worked fine until it was powered 
off.


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Re: Wallstreet Display

[James Sanderson]

If I understood this right, the original thread (see below) never 
implies that the hard drive was changed.  The solution that is being 
offered here is assuming that the HD was changed to a TravelStar HD, 
which had this sleep issue.
As I understood the problem, it's a video issue and this issue has not 
been answered to satisfaction.  My Wallstreet still has problems with 
the video going blank, though I recently discovered that this seems to 
happen only if the battery is in.  The battery is old and didn't hold a 
charge for more than 30 minutes when it was fully charged and the 
computer was using OS 9.  After the OS X upgrade, I began having this 
problem.
Now on start up, after the comp has started up the various services, if 
I press the brightness button I get a picture.  If the battery is in, 
the vid lasts for a few minutes.  If the battery is out the vid 
stays--for days if I leave the comp alone.  If I don't catch it at the 
right moment the computer goes to sleep and no tapping or magnet 
passing over the HD will awaken it; it has to restarted.
If anyone has any better suggestions, I'm reading for it.

Thanks,

J Sanderson

On Sunday, April 18, 2004, at 01:16  pm, Mike Kauspedas wrote:

If you use a magnet close to your hard drive you are asking to loose 
all your data. I don't care what other people have done, drives work 
off magnetic polarity, if you reverse it with a magnet, viola your 
data is gone. I would go with the brass idea instead. I have a 
Mainstreet (300MHz 14.1") and have never had this problem with 
multiple drives including the original 4900RPM 8GB IBM, 10,20, and now 
30GB Toshiba drives.Those drive are also located in the same place. 
Thats just my humble opinion though.

Mike @ AAHS
Tech
On Sunday, April 18, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Tom wrote:

Try gingerly running a magnet along the right side of the keyboard, 
over the
hard drive. Reed switch may be hung and needs a jiggle to allow 
wakeup if
you have put a modern hard drive in place of the OEM hard drive. I 
keep a
fridge magnet handy and use it way too often, Have not erased hard 
drive
yet.

-Original Message-
From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
Howe
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:01 AM
To: G-Books
Subject: Wallstreet Display

Hi-

I remember a thread from a few days ago about sleep/display problems 
on a
Wallstreet. At the time, I wasn't having any problems so I didn't pay 
much
attention, but oddly enough, a Wallstreet I just sold to a friend is 
having
the problem now.

Was ther any resolution found for this problem? I deleted my old 
messages.
Specs for his machine:
14.1 inch display
300 MHz
192 MB RAM
10.2.8

Thanks,

Scott

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Wallstreet video problems

[James Sanderson]

While upgrading my Wallstreet (g3/250) with a new HD (a Travelstar 
20GB), adding memory (384MB),  installing Jaguar, and changing the PRAM 
battery, I have encountered this problem.  On start up I will get the 
grey apple start up screen but the moment it goes to the Mac OS X 
screen I lose the video.   Sometimes I can see the ghost of the Mac OS 
X rectangle.   Sometimes I can regain the video by pressing volume or 
the brightness controls; most of the time I cannot.  If I can't get the 
video to work  the machine seems to go to sleep and it snores, refusing 
to be stirred.  Is there some incompatibility with the video card?  
Would an vid card upgrade be in order if there is one?  I did try to 
get the machine to boot into OS 9 but OS X asserted itself.  Would I be 
better off in OS 9 (though the machine handles X without any other 
problems, works quite well, actually)?
I like this laptop very much and would like to keep it in X because the 
OS networks so easily with Windows, the OS of choice at work.

Any suggestions?

TIA

Jim Sanderson

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Re: OSX on Wallstreet: the saga continues

[James Sanderson]

On Tuesday, Dec 23, 2003, at 17:25 US/Central, B Gardner wrote:

And the results
It didn't work.  The video didn't dissolve this time, but the computer 
froze with "39 minutes" left for the installation of the first disc.

Jim

Byron
On Dec 23, 2003, at 4:46 PM, James Sanderson wrote:
...I have noticed that I can keep it from dissolving by shaking the 
mouse if I catch it early enough.  On the install before this, I 
managed to stop it a couple of times before I got distracted and the 
video went bye-bye.

So, I'm stubborn, and am trying this again, sharp eyes focused on the 
screen to give that mouse a shake before it melts away into a white 
oblivion and I have to start over.


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OSX on Wallstreet: the saga continues

[James Sanderson]

OK.  I  decided to try using XPF to install OS X on the computer, but I 
get an error:  "there was a problem writing to NVRAM."
What could cause this problem?  Bad PRAM battery?  What kind of issues 
does this indicate?

I've tried the original configuration with the OS X already on the 4 
GB.  The computer started up without a hitch.

Went back to the Travelstar, wiped it clean and repartitioned it.  
Installed OS 9 and upgraded to 9.2.1 without a problem once the disc 
was recognised.  (this still has me perplexed:  why does the computer 
insist on reinitialising the CD:  "it is unreadable; format in ProDOS?" 
 It does this with almost every CD I put in it.  It also no longer will 
play music CD's; rather it starts and then stops after 1-4 seconds.  
Change track?  If your lucky.)

Anyhow, on the last attempt I got further than I ever had before.  
There was well over a gig of files in the partition before the screen 
dissolved.  (I like that description, thanks, Byron!)  I have noticed 
that I can keep it from dissolving by shaking the mouse if I catch it 
early enough.  On the install before this, I managed to stop it a 
couple of times before I got distracted and the video went bye-bye.

So, I'm stubborn, and am trying this again, sharp eyes focused on the 
screen to give that mouse a shake before it melts away into a white 
oblivion and I have to start over.

Jim Sanderson

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Re: OSX on Wallstreet

[James Sanderson]

In a word, Jaguar.

On Tuesday, Dec 23, 2003, at 00:07 US/Central, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

on 22/12/03 23:34, James Sanderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I have the drive partitioned at 7.9 GB's, so I don't believe this is
the problem
On Sunday, Dec 21, 2003, at 21:50 US/Central, Gavin Tiplady wrote:

The reason I asked is that are you trying to install on a partition
larger than 8GB?
Or a partition less than 8Gb but which -does not fall entirely within
the first 8Gb- of the physical drive.
Hmmm, but what are you trying to install on that Wallstreet? Jaguar or
Panther? Panther is not supported, unless you use XPostFacto...
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Re: OSX on Wallstreet.

[James Sanderson]

Thanks for the help about the above.

Now, I have a more serious difficulty.  For some mysterious reason the 
video display will start going haywire during the installation process. 
 Most of the time--this may be the 3rd or 4th--it will simply go blank 
and give me a white-blue screen.  This time--the 5th-- it has given 
many beautiful colours.   It must have gotten fairly well along in the 
install process as now the computer can't find a start-up volume, even 
with the OS X CD in the CD-ROM drive.

This really has me mystified.  I had NO problem installing X on the 
original HD--a 4 GB original.  It's tempting to go back to the original 
configuration say to heck with it all, but the extra space is needed 
for storage and for Classic.

Something else this machine is doing is not recognising CD's, in 
particular, CD-RW's.  It also will not always mount the OS install 
disc.  It has done this with both the OS and X discs.

Any ideas are welcome.

TIA

Jim Sanderson

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Re: OSX on Wallstreet

[James Sanderson]

I have the drive partitioned at 7.9 GB's, so I don't believe this is 
the problem

On Sunday, Dec 21, 2003, at 21:50 US/Central, Gavin Tiplady wrote:

The reason I asked is that are you trying to install on a partition 
larger than 8GB?
Or a partition less than 8Gb but which -does not fall entirely within 
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[James Sanderson]

I have been given charge of upgrading a Wallstreet.  I have already
upped the memory to 384 MB's.  I have installed a new HD, a 30 GB
Travelstar, and partitioned it for OS X.  I have installed OS 9.2.1 and
am working on installing OS X, but I have run into problems with in OS X
install. It hangs about half way through the disc 1 install.  A couple
of times I was prompted upon inserting the OS X disc, to initialize or
eject it because the disc was not readable by Mac OS.   Is there some
secret I need to know about in doing the installation?  Is it a problem
with the disc?  
I did install it without a hitch on this computer's original 4 GB HD,
but 4 GB's just doesn't give enough space for storage after putting the
OS and the desired programmes on it.
Suggestions?

Thanks,

Jim Sanderson


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