Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Dan K]

Caleb Cupples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
>Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put
>one in my Lombard eventually.
I figure an original SuperDrive ought to go for $50 or so, based on the
prices of current models, eg: "Pioneer DVR-K05 8X Dual Layer Slim DVD±RW
Drive" @ US$87:


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

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KNEW I was forgetting one! Wegener Media   
sells kits with the correct bezel and all for starting at $150:  




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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

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On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote:



No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts.  
(College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system)


I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy www.powerbookguy.com> sells one for $129.


Thanks. If anything, Powerbookguy definitely beats OWC's prices for  
superdrives. Does it work with the native drivers in Jaguar, or  
will I have to hack some drivers and/or install PatchBurn?


The one from the Tibook worked just fine right off the bat, but that  
was in 10.3. You might have to run Patchburn if the drive post-dates  
Jaguar.


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Caleb Cupples]

On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 12:43 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote:



On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:




It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the 
drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in 
my Pismo.


The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less 
important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the 
old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier.




Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put 
one in my Lombard eventually.



No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts. 
(College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system)


I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy 
 sells one for $129.


Thanks. If anything, Powerbookguy definitely beats OWC's prices for 
superdrives. Does it work with the native drivers in Jaguar, or will I 
have to hack some drivers and/or install PatchBurn?


Caleb

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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote:



On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson  
wrote:




It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the  
drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in  
my Pismo.


The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less  
important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the  
old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier.




Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to  
put one in my Lombard eventually.



No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts.  
(College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system)


I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy www.powerbookguy.com> sells one for $129.


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Caleb Cupples]

On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote:



It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the drive 
from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in my Pismo.


The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less important. 
It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the old drive to 
attach it to the new one so it's prettier.




Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put 
one in my Lombard eventually.


Thanks,
Caleb

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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jan 24, 2006, at 12:17 AM, kaldav wrote:


Hello,
Does anyone know if a Combo drive from an  iBook G4 12" 1ghz would  
work in a Pismo?


It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the  
drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in my  
Pismo.


The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less  
important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the  
old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier.


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Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?

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On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:17 AM, kaldav wrote:


Hello,
Does anyone know if a Combo drive from an  iBook G4 12" 1ghz would  
work in a Pismo?

Thanks.

Hi Yes it will it is just a straight drop into the pismo caddy but  
the face plate will not fit as it is slot loading. You can make one  
easy enough from an old vst zip drive caddy for the pismo.



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Hello,
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work in a Pismo?

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Re: Ibook G4 1GHz malfunctioning motherboard any value?

[sandra ragan]

Does this work in the G3 dual USB? Mine still has the flaky power  
connector.


Sandra Ragan
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On Jan 15, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

A few months ago, I did replace the motherboard in my daughter's iBook  
G4 at
1GHz. She had spilled water on the keyboard and it found its way to  
damage
the motherboard. Only the video was affected, though, the computer  
seemed to

be working fine except for the video.

So, that motherboard has been sitting on a shelf for a few months now,
collecting dust.

Anybody knows if this has any value that would justify putting it on  
eBay?


Thanks!

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Ibook G4 1GHz malfunctioning motherboard any value?

[Laurent Daudelin]

A few months ago, I did replace the motherboard in my daughter's iBook G4 at
1GHz. She had spilled water on the keyboard and it found its way to damage
the motherboard. Only the video was affected, though, the computer seemed to
be working fine except for the video.

So, that motherboard has been sitting on a shelf for a few months now,
collecting dust.

Anybody knows if this has any value that would justify putting it on eBay?

Thanks!

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Anybody knows for sure if an ATA-6 hard drive would work in an iBook G4?

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Re: Tiger on iBook G4?

[victoria duggan]

Hi Jared

I have a full set of 10.3.9 original G4 ibook discs and also the set  
of 4 restore disks for the G4 ibook if you need them.


let me know

vicki
On 5 Oct 2005, at 02:15, Jared Noska wrote:

Well, do you think that it would matter if say the iBook it was  
from had a newer CPU or if the Gestalt ID was different?


I guess I don't know how specific Apple gets when they make these  
disks.

I liked the days when system disks were almost like universal disks.




I don't see why it wouldn't work.



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Re: Tiger on iBook G4?

[david]

Jared:

To keep casual piracy at a minimum, Apple creates its restore/install  
CD/DVD sets so that they work only with the specific model they  
shipped with. The installer runs a utility to insure that the  
computer is the proper model before the installation is started. IOW,  
you couldn't use my PowerBook restore DVD on your iBook.


Since you have an iBook G4 and the restore set you bought is also for  
a G4 iBook, at first blush it would seem you will be able to use the  
CDs. However, if the G4 model you have and the G4 model the disks  
were made for are different the disks may not work. For example, a  
few weeks ago I took my restore DVD to a friend's how because his  
restore DVD was scratched and not working. The only difference  
between his PowerBook and mine was that mine was speedbumped. The DVD  
wouldn't work.


david

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Hello!

I have an iBook G4 that has OS 10.3.9. It came with OS 10.3.3 on  
DVD. I bought a set disks of from an iBook G4 that have 10.4.2. I  
would imagine that these two would work hand in hand, as I have an  
iBook G4 and the disks are from an iBook G4.


I would like to know if there is any way that these 10.4.2 disks  
wouldn't work.


The only reason I bought another restore disk for my iBook is  
because my first one was lost and I could only find Tiger. Maybe  
this will be more of a hassle. I dunno.


Just need some input on what you guys think!

Thanks.
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Re: Tiger on iBook G4?

[Ben Dyer]

From my experience, it would appear that OS X disks are fairly  
universal. There certainly shouldn't be any problems within the one  
product line.


Cheers,
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On 5 Oct 2005, at 11:15 , Jared Noska wrote:

Well, do you think that it would matter if say the iBook it was  
from had a newer CPU or if the Gestalt ID was different?


I guess I don't know how specific Apple gets when they make these  
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I liked the days when system disks were almost like universal disks.




I don't see why it wouldn't work.



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Well, do you think that it would matter if say the iBook it was from 
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I liked the days when system disks were almost like universal disks.



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Re: Tiger on iBook G4?

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I don't see why it wouldn't work.

On 05/10/2005, at 10:35 AM, Jared Noska wrote:



Hello!

I have an iBook G4 that has OS 10.3.9. It came with OS 10.3.3 on  
DVD. I bought a set disks of from an iBook G4 that have 10.4.2. I  
would imagine that these two would work hand in hand, as I have an  
iBook G4 and the disks are from an iBook G4.


I would like to know if there is any way that these 10.4.2 disks  
wouldn't work.


The only reason I bought another restore disk for my iBook is  
because my first one was lost and I could only find Tiger. Maybe  
this will be more of a hassle. I dunno.


Just need some input on what you guys think!

Thanks.
Jared


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Tiger on iBook G4?

[Jared Noska]

Hello!

I have an iBook G4 that has OS 10.3.9. It came with OS 10.3.3 on DVD. I 
bought a set disks of from an iBook G4 that have 10.4.2. I would 
imagine that these two would work hand in hand, as I have an iBook G4 
and the disks are from an iBook G4.


I would like to know if there is any way that these 10.4.2 disks 
wouldn't work.


The only reason I bought another restore disk for my iBook is because 
my first one was lost and I could only find Tiger. Maybe this will be 
more of a hassle. I dunno.


Just need some input on what you guys think!

Thanks.
Jared


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Re: firewall for iBook G4

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 1, 2005, at 11:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, I'm getting ready to buy an iBook G4  this week. What's a good  
firewall?


The built-in firewall in OS X is perfectly good. A router using NAT  
does do pretty good at blocking things as well.


Truth be told, out of the box OS X doesn't really need a firewall  
because no ports are open: look in the Sharing pane; if nothing's  
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Re: firewall for iBook G4

[JocBr8]

Hi, I'm getting ready to buy an iBook G4  this week. What's a good firewall?  
A friend of mine has some sort of a router box as a firewall instead of a 
program.  
All suggestions appreciated and/or webpages with info.

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Re: AUGH! Ibook G4 with fried hard drive

[Misha Antonich]

>>  bluetooth module

I bought a usb to bluetooth adapter for around $15 almost a year ago and it
works great. It plugs into the usb port, has the size and appearance of a
usb memory stick and give a good range (about 15 - 20 meters).
I certainly would recommend going this route for this part.

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Re: AUGH! Ibook G4 with fried hard drive

[Richard Clark]

On Aug 31, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Henry Taylor wrote:


 bluetooth module


not easy to find internal BT for ibook online you need to find four  
separate parts to install one better off with an external one. I put  
in BT on my ibook by myself a week after i got it as a gift was lucky  
to find someone with a broken PB that sold me the parts i needed not  
all of them were the correct parts but i modded them and now have  
Internal BT.


Richard


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Re: AUGH! Ibook G4 with fried hard drive

[Henry Taylor]

   Not to miss the point of this post, but is the iBook still under 
warrenty? If so, replacement is free. If not, there are guides 
(pbfixit) that give instructions on how to take apart an iBook ( or 
any other book). That being said, taking apart an iBook is no small 
feat, though it can be done. I've not priced an airport card or 
bluetooth module, though both can be found online.

Good luck on whatever route you take, wish I could be more help.

Henry





I bought an Ibook so as not to be tempted to muck around in its 
innards.  Now, its hard drive is fried.  TTP4 indicates that 
everything else is fine, but not even DiskWarrior has been able to 
retrieve anything from the HD.  There's nothing irreplaceable on it, 
so I figured I'd just replace it.  The only local apple service 
provider wants $75 JUST TO LOOK AT IT!  I'm on disability, so doing 
things as cheaply as possible is a necessity.  How difficult is it 
to get an Ibook open?  Once I have it open, what issues do I need to 
be aware of in replacing the HD?  If I've got the sucker open, I'd 
like to drop in an airport card and maybe a blue tooth module, but 
I've got to balance total costs of replacement and upgrades against 
throwing in the towel and just buying a new Ibook, since the new 
ones have airport and bluetooth standard.  Any advice appreciated.


peace, love, and joy,

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AUGH! Ibook G4 with fried hard drive

[Samantha]

I bought an Ibook so as not to be tempted to muck around in its innards.  Now, 
its hard drive is fried.  TTP4 indicates that everything else is fine, but not 
even DiskWarrior has been able to retrieve anything from the HD.  There's 
nothing irreplaceable on it, so I figured I'd just replace it.  The only local 
apple service provider wants $75 JUST TO LOOK AT IT!  I'm on disability, so 
doing things as cheaply as possible is a necessity.  How difficult is it to get 
an Ibook open?  Once I have it open, what issues do I need to be aware of in 
replacing the HD?  If I've got the sucker open, I'd like to drop in an airport 
card and maybe a blue tooth module, but I've got to balance total costs of 
replacement and upgrades against throwing in the towel and just buying a new 
Ibook, since the new ones have airport and bluetooth standard.  Any advice 
appreciated.

peace, love, and joy,

Samantha

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Re: 10.4 on iBook G4 from eMac DVD?

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 23/06/05 15:18, "Steve Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I'm not sure it will work. Before those restore DVDs started
>> appearing, you
>> could pretty much use any OS X installation CD and install it on any
>> computer. Now, you have restore CDs or DVDs that seem to be custom
>> configured for a specific line of Macintosh. Is there any technical
>> reason
>> to do so? I'm not sure there would be any. Is Apple trying to
>> restrict the
>> use of those restore disks? Maybe...
> 
> I would guess that the idea is to keep people from doing exactly what
> is occurring. Selling a restore disk to someone else, so that the
> purchasing party won't have to pay for a full copy of Tiger or
> whatever the OS is on the DVD. Another thing may be that Apple has
> rights to distribute certain 3rd party software titles on certain
> classes of machines. IE Marble Blast Gold can only be shipped on G4
> ibooks and not on PowerBooks.

Yes, I was thinking about something similar after I sent my reply. The
restore DVDs that came with my PowerBook 17" had some specific applications
on them, not mentioning the system that is the least version you can get
installed. You use the same restore DVD whether you want to reinstall the
system or just add an application that you trashed. So, maybe there is some
technical aspect to it...

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Re: 10.4 on iBook G4 from eMac DVD?

[Steve Fuller]

I'm not sure it will work. Before those restore DVDs started  
appearing, you

could pretty much use any OS X installation CD and install it on any
computer. Now, you have restore CDs or DVDs that seem to be custom
configured for a specific line of Macintosh. Is there any technical  
reason
to do so? I'm not sure there would be any. Is Apple trying to  
restrict the

use of those restore disks? Maybe...


I would guess that the idea is to keep people from doing exactly what  
is occurring. Selling a restore disk to someone else, so that the  
purchasing party won't have to pay for a full copy of Tiger or  
whatever the OS is on the DVD. Another thing may be that Apple has  
rights to distribute certain 3rd party software titles on certain  
classes of machines. IE Marble Blast Gold can only be shipped on G4  
ibooks and not on PowerBooks.


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Re: 10.4 on iBook G4 from eMac DVD?

[Jared Noska]

Yeah, well I'm sure that it is just about the $$$
anymore...
 
> I'm not sure it will work. Before those restore DVDs
> started appearing, you
> could pretty much use any OS X installation CD and
> install it on any
> computer. Now, you have restore CDs or DVDs that
> seem to be custom
> configured for a specific line of Macintosh. Is
> there any technical reason
> to do so? I'm not sure there would be any. Is Apple
> trying to restrict the
> use of those restore disks? Maybe...
> 
> -Laurent.
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Re: 10.4 on iBook G4 from eMac DVD?

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On 23/06/05 13:48, "Jared Noska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi! I'm new to the list, so greetings! I have a
> problem that is probably easily fixed and all I need
> is a little help.
> 
> So here's the story:
> I obtained an eMac DVD which contains the install for
> 10.4. I would like to get this on my ibook g4, but I
> popped the disc in my drive and it told me that this
> software won't work with my computer. All I need now
> is to change the gestalt ID so that my computer will
> be recognized as an eMac through the install and then
> change it later back to my configuration? Is this at
> all possible? I've done this before only it was 8.6...
> 
> Hope someone can help me otherwise I may have to get
> the iBook G4 restores
> 

I'm not sure it will work. Before those restore DVDs started appearing, you
could pretty much use any OS X installation CD and install it on any
computer. Now, you have restore CDs or DVDs that seem to be custom
configured for a specific line of Macintosh. Is there any technical reason
to do so? I'm not sure there would be any. Is Apple trying to restrict the
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10.4 on iBook G4 from eMac DVD?

[Jared Noska]

Hi! I'm new to the list, so greetings! I have a
problem that is probably easily fixed and all I need
is a little help.

So here's the story:
I obtained an eMac DVD which contains the install for
10.4. I would like to get this on my ibook g4, but I
popped the disc in my drive and it told me that this
software won't work with my computer. All I need now
is to change the gestalt ID so that my computer will
be recognized as an eMac through the install and then
change it later back to my configuration? Is this at
all possible? I've done this before only it was 8.6...

Hope someone can help me otherwise I may have to get
the iBook G4 restores 

Thanks,
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Re: brand new iBook G4 with key/lettering coming off

[Jim Dynes]

I am having the same problem. Also, As I am typing I get contextual  
menus popping up.


Jim

On Jun 11, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Michelle wrote:


Hi there,

I have only had my iBook G4 14" since May 10th, 2004. I have used  
it every day but predominantly for email - not a ton of typing by  
any means.


Already the letter "T" and "S" are starting to wear off (peel off?)  
of those keys... what the heck? Is this a thing with the iBooks? I  
have typed a lot more on other keyboards (laptop and otherwise, all  
Macs) without this happening.


Anything I could or should do about it? I'd rather not take a  
Sharpie marker and write them in... but I also don't want all the  
other letters/etc coming off! (I'm a decent typist, but I need to  
see what's where sometimes... :-)  )


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Re: brand new iBook G4 with key/lettering coming off

[Amber]

On 11-Jun-05, at 5:50 PM, Michelle wrote:


Hi there,

I have only had my iBook G4 14" since May 10th, 2004. I have used  
it every day but predominantly for email - not a ton of typing by  
any means.


Already the letter "T" and "S" are starting to wear off (peel off?)  
of those keys... what the heck? Is this a thing with the iBooks? I  
have typed a lot more on other keyboards (laptop and otherwise, all  
Macs) without this happening.




Hi Michelle,

Do you live near an Apple store ? If so, take the iBook in and let  
them have a look at it.

If not,  contact Applecare and advise them of what is happening.
There is no way that the letters should be wearing off already.   
Whatever you do, do NOT write on the keys.   Your iBook is still  
under warranty so you should be able to get some resolution from Apple.


Amber


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Re: brand new iBook G4 with key/lettering coming off (HAD it one month... my oops...)

[Michelle]

Hi there,

I have only had my iBook G4 14" since May 10th, 2004. I have used it 
every day but predominantly for email - not a ton of typing by any 
means.



OOPS - sorry, I meant 2005... barely one MONTH ago... my typo - Michelle

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brand new iBook G4 with key/lettering coming off

[Michelle]

Hi there,

I have only had my iBook G4 14" since May 10th, 2004. I have used it 
every day but predominantly for email - not a ton of typing by any 
means.


Already the letter "T" and "S" are starting to wear off (peel off?) 
of those keys... what the heck? Is this a thing with the iBooks? I 
have typed a lot more on other keyboards (laptop and otherwise, all 
Macs) without this happening.


Anything I could or should do about it? I'd rather not take a Sharpie 
marker and write them in... but I also don't want all the other 
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Re: Taking apart an iBook G4

[JF Arotxa]

Thanks, I'll make sure it's bookmarked.
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On 20-May-05, at 9:57 AM, JF Arotxa wrote:
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step by step instructions and lots of pictures showing how to 
disassemble the computers, change parts, and put them back. 
Unfortunately, I lost the URL.

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Re: Taking apart an iBook G4

[Rick McCutcheon]

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Unfortunately, I lost the URL.

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Arne




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Re: Taking apart an iBook G4

[JF Arotxa]

I saw a few months ago a website with almost all PBs and iBooks, with 
step by step instructions and lots of pictures showing how to 
disassemble the computers, change parts, and put them back. 
Unfortunately, I lost the URL.

frank
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taking them apart. I have taken powerbooks apart before just looking for some 
tips with the iBook.
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Re: Taking apart an iBook G4

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 19, 2005, at 8:46 PM, maclist wrote:
Has anyone had any experience with taking apart aniBook, I want to put 
in a bluetooth module, but before I do I want to know if anyone has 
had any trouble taking them apart. I have taken powerbooks apart 
before just looking for some tips with the iBook.
iBooks in general are more complicated than Powerbooks to disassemble.
That said, check out PBFixit.com, they may have a disassembly guide for 
it.


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Re: Taking apart an iBook G4

[Richard Clark]

Pulled mine apart a month after i bought it to put the BT inside i  
had a hard time finding the parts but finally found most of them on  
ebay, If i remember correctly there are 4 parts needed, the actual BT  
board, the wire to connect the board, the antenna wire with antenna,  
and the antenna board holder. As for pulling it apart and doing the  
job wasn't very hard but i did have the manual to follow.
Richard
On 20/mag/05, at 05:46, maclist wrote:

Has anyone had any experience with taking apart aniBook, I want to  
put in a bluetooth module, but before I do I want to know if anyone  
has had any trouble taking them apart. I have taken powerbooks  
apart before just looking for some tips with the iBook.
Arne


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Taking apart an iBook G4

[maclist]

Has anyone had any experience with taking apart aniBook, I want to put in a 
bluetooth module, but before I do I want to know if anyone has had any trouble 
taking them apart. I have taken powerbooks apart before just looking for some 
tips with the iBook.
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Re: Slow iBook G4 1Ghz (wife...)

[Larry le Mac]

From: Beniamino Cenci Goga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In general use it is hard to find any difference: for instance my wife 
cannot tell any difference and ...
Hmm, not much of an argument...
I have a really bad habit of swapping my Macs, as some of you know,
and my wife is getting real pissed off with not knowing which Mac or
back-up disk has which document and so on, hence I am moving to
Macs that I will not sell, brand new ones.
To the point, I asked her what she would lika as "her" Mac and she
claims that she really doesn't care as long as it works and that it stays.
Oh, and as she's got taste (She's married to me...) she prefers OS X
over OS 9 or Windoze.
Right, in the past she's had a 12" iBook 800 who's screen (I do refer
to Macs as persons) was "too small", fine. However, when I had the
AlBook 12" a month later, she picked it up and said "is this my new
Mac then ?!"
Doh!!
It's now be a Mac mini with 17" TFT, period!!
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Re: Slow iBook G4 1Ghz

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

I have a huge PowerBooks collection: at least all form factor (1xx, 
190, 520/540, 5300, 1400, 3400/3500, WS/lomb/Pizmo, Titan, Alum, 
iBooks (clamsh., withe).

Well, I would like to bring my experience to this topic.
Wallstreet 15", BlueChip 500 MHz, 512 MB RAM
vs.
iBook G4 14", 933 MHz 384 MB RAM
vs.
PowerBook G4 15", 1,25 MHz, 1000 MB RAM
Well, to tell the truth the Aluminium is faster, but I notice this 
only with processor and RAM demanding tasks.

In general use it is hard to find any difference: for instance my 
wife cannot tell any difference and actually she is still complaining 
for the purchase of the Aluminum (the only reason that she admits is 
the nice shape and the necessity for my collection...).

Moreover she still find the Wallstreet with OS 9.2.2 the best thing.
Personally I use the iBook G4 90% of the time because it is sturdy 
and the battery last longer than on the Aluminium. Only when I need 
to work on huge (>5 MB) Word files or PDFs I switch to the Aluminium.

Then I have a G5 2 x 2 with 2.5 GB RAM: well this monster is really 
faster than the three 'Book mentioned.

Let's go back to 1995-1996: PowerBook 1400/3400 were a big 
improvement over the 5300ce, but by today's standard they are pretty 
the same thing.

I guess that after you have driven a Porsche (never had one...) 
probably you do not notice any difference between a 1999 1.5 L Jetta 
or a 2005 Passat V8.

Ben

I too would really like to know about this.  I recently acquired a 
G4 800mhz iBook and immediately upgraded it to a gig of RAM and I 
swear that it is slower at most tasks than my  400mhz Pismo, also 
with a gig of RAM.  I really expected a big difference in speed and 
I just haven't seen it.  Any ideas??

Nancy
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Re: Slow iBook G4 1Ghz

[Nancy Lawrence]

I too would really like to know about this.  I recently acquired a G4 
800mhz iBook and immediately upgraded it to a gig of RAM and I swear 
that it is slower at most tasks than my  400mhz Pismo, also with a gig 
of RAM.  I really expected a big difference in speed and I just haven't 
seen it.  Any ideas??

Nancy
On Feb 15, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Mikael Byström wrote:
About one year ago I had a Wallstreet II / PDQ 266 with 128MB RAM 
running
Panther (I believe 10.3.5. and Jaguar 10.2.6 before that). I know this
was too little, but unless I used very memory intensive apps it was OK.
Now have encountered an iBook G4 1Ghz with 128MB running Panther 10.3.6
that is slower than my old WS machine!

I looked at the processor with Top and it was running at about 50%. 
Some
VM activity was going on, but it didn't seem excessive nor did the 
drive
trash. Also I only found 3 swap files, which I'd expect with this 
little RAM.

In my old WS changing to another app could take about 5 seconds at 
times,
longer if I ran more than say 5 apps. To start an app took maybe 10 
dock
bounces. On this book starting an app takes very long time, like 15
bounces. Changing app takes way more than 15 seconds, between say, Word
and System Preferences, those two being the only ones loaded.

While any machine with 128MB is running sub-optimally, I was impressed 
on
the WS 266 when Panther support in XPostFacto arrived and how much
snappier my machine felt even with as little as 128MB ( I later 
upgraded
to 384MB).

It seems that I'm not looking at processor overload, but something more
complex. Anyone have any suggestions what to look for including 
hardware
problems in this model?

I'm going to try to redo prebinding and getting rid of all suspect 
prefs,
before I install more RAM. Any other suggestions?


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Slow iBook G4 1Ghz

[Mikael Byström]

About one year ago I had a Wallstreet II / PDQ 266 with 128MB RAM running
Panther (I believe 10.3.5. and Jaguar 10.2.6 before that). I know this
was too little, but unless I used very memory intensive apps it was OK.
Now have encountered an iBook G4 1Ghz with 128MB running Panther 10.3.6
that is slower than my old WS machine! 

I looked at the processor with Top and it was running at about 50%. Some
VM activity was going on, but it didn't seem excessive nor did the drive
trash. Also I only found 3 swap files, which I'd expect with this little RAM. 

In my old WS changing to another app could take about 5 seconds at times,
longer if I ran more than say 5 apps. To start an app took maybe 10 dock
bounces. On this book starting an app takes very long time, like 15
bounces. Changing app takes way more than 15 seconds, between say, Word
and System Preferences, those two being the only ones loaded.

While any machine with 128MB is running sub-optimally, I was impressed on
the WS 266 when Panther support in XPostFacto arrived and how much
snappier my machine felt even with as little as 128MB ( I later upgraded
to 384MB). 

It seems that I'm not looking at processor overload, but something more
complex. Anyone have any suggestions what to look for including hardware
problems in this model? 

I'm going to try to redo prebinding and getting rid of all suspect prefs,
before I install more RAM. Any other suggestions?




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Re: Trying to print from ibook g4 thru Airport Express to C80 onMac Clone

[John McGibney]

> I have recently acquired an ibook g4 running Panther, and an Airport Express
> base station. The Express is connected to one port of an SMC Barricade 4
> Port wired cable/dsl router, along with Mac Clones and an XP home PC. The
> two Mac Clones, a PowerCenterPro 210 and a PowerCenter 150, are running Mac
> OS 9.1 and 8.6 respectively. I cannot see the PowerCenters in the network
> browser on the ibook, but I can connect to them via the TCP/IP option in the
> Sharing Control Panel.
> 
> I would like to be able to print from the ibook to the Epson Stylus C80
> printer I have, by the USB printer sharing control panel in the OS 9.1
> system folder.  
> 
> I cannot figure out how to make the Printer visible to the ibook. Can this
> be done with 9.1 and 10.3.5? Is there something in the Airport Express
> setup?
> 
> Any help would be really appreciated!!!
> 
> Cheers,
> Kenji
> 
Short answer NO. 

Printers can be shared in X with all machines running X OR in 9 with all
machines running 9. You can't print to a shared OS 9 printer from an X
machine except via a "classic" application.

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Trying to print from ibook g4 thru Airport Express to C80 on Mac Clone

[iguy]

I have recently acquired an ibook g4 running Panther, and an Airport Express
base station. The Express is connected to one port of an SMC Barricade 4
Port wired cable/dsl router, along with Mac Clones and an XP home PC. The
two Mac Clones, a PowerCenterPro 210 and a PowerCenter 150, are running Mac
OS 9.1 and 8.6 respectively. I cannot see the PowerCenters in the network
browser on the ibook, but I can connect to them via the TCP/IP option in the
Sharing Control Panel.

I would like to be able to print from the ibook to the Epson Stylus C80
printer I have, by the USB printer sharing control panel in the OS 9.1
system folder.  

I cannot figure out how to make the Printer visible to the ibook. Can this
be done with 9.1 and 10.3.5? Is there something in the Airport Express
setup?

Any help would be really appreciated!!!

Cheers,
Kenji


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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

[Andrew, a Mac Freak]

Ok, yeah that's what I expected :(

Andrew

> Andrew, the only places that I have seen sockets for putters are in 
> bussiness class or first calss, none for us peons.

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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

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haha!  "Excuse me, can I plug this into your socket...thanks, thanks
very much."

Andrew

> just bring a really long extension
> cable.

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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

[Hector I . Macedo]

Andrew, the only places that I have seen sockets for putters are in 
bussiness class or first calss, none for us peons.

On Feb 3, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote:
On all the international flights I have been on I have *never* seen a
power socket to plug up a laptop.  Never.  It has always made me wonder
if they really exist, I have just assumed that they are for the first
class.  The flight is on a 747 on Quantis airlines.   I have flown on
Quantis on a 747 and haven't seen a socket, either.  Thus this monster
D-cell battery pack :)  BTW, has anyone seen an Air socket on a flight
before?  Because I would really like to know...
Hector I. Macedo  "Lord of the 
Flies"	
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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

[Jim Katz]

>On all the international flights I have been on I have *never* seen a
>power socket to plug up a laptop.  Never.  It has always made me wonder
>if they really exist, I have just assumed that they are for the first
>class. 

Right, now if that is the case, just bring a really long extension
cable.


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[- drive - drift - dream -]

On 3-Feb-05, at 9:47 AM, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote:
On all the international flights I have been on I have *never* seen a
power socket to plug up a laptop.  Never.  It has always made me wonder
if they really exist, I have just assumed that they are for the first
class.
I have seen outlets on run of the mill domestic American Airlines 
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under/between the seats, IIRC...  I just remember having a laptop and 
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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

[Andrew, a Mac Freak]

Doh, I just remembered the correct spelling right after I posted it :P

Andrew

> it's Qantas = Queensland and Northern
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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

[Kevin Smith (ae)]

The flight is on a 747 on Quantis airlines.

Andrew, Just being pedantic, but it's Qantas = Queensland and Northern
Territories Air (Services ?)
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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

[Andrew, a Mac Freak]

On all the international flights I have been on I have *never* seen a
power socket to plug up a laptop.  Never.  It has always made me wonder
if they really exist, I have just assumed that they are for the first
class.  The flight is on a 747 on Quantis airlines.   I have flown on
Quantis on a 747 and haven't seen a socket, either.  Thus this monster
D-cell battery pack :)  BTW, has anyone seen an Air socket on a flight
before?  Because I would really like to know...

Andrew

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:14:05 -0800, "Clark Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> At 9:35 PM -0600 2/1/05, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote:
> >Hello, I have a 14 hour plane flight coming up and, wanting to watch
> >movies/play games the whole time, I built a 15 D-cell battery pack.  The
> >fully charged voltage is 24.2 volts.  I searched on Google and found
> >that the power port on Apple's new laptops are standard 2.5mm stereo
> >audio jacks (surprise!) so I connected the pack (with the polarity in
> >mind) to a 2.5mm plug, connected to the ibook, and it works.  My
> >question is: at what voltage will the iBook so into sleep mode, if at
> >all?  I heard somewhere not to go under 12 volts, to avoid damage to the
> >iBook; is this true?
> 
> I don't think it's going to matter.  When the menu bar ICON switches 
> from Charged to On Battery you may have reached the point where the 
> external battery pack isn't helping.  I say may because it might 
> still be providing some power to run the computer and the iBook's 
> battery is providing the rest, I don't know for sure, it depends on 
> the internal power circuitry.  You could test it by monitoring the 
> current from the battery pack and reduce the voltage (use fewer and 
> fewer cells).  When the "On Battery" ICON comes on if the pack is 
> still supplying significant current then it is helping.
> 
> I would at a minimum put a fuse right off the battery pack.
> 
> Have you checked into auto/air adapters (and if your flight has outlets).
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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

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At 10:51 PM +0100 2/2/05, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: Clark Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I would at a minimum put a fuse right off the battery pack.
Good idea, as the voltage drops the current will (?) increase
in order to deliver the same amount of power and at some
point it won't be good...
Well the laptop's power circuitry should protect against that.  The 
fuse on the batery pack is SOP to protect against short circuits. 
Either a cable problem or something contacting the power connector. 
Depending on the battery type you can have a very high short circuit 
current which can burn out wiring, melt plastic casing, cause burns 
againt skin and other problems.
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I would at a minimum put a fuse right off the battery pack.
Good idea, as the voltage drops the current will (?) increase
in order to deliver the same amount of power and at some
point it won't be good...
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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

[Clark Martin]

At 9:35 PM -0600 2/1/05, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote:
Hello, I have a 14 hour plane flight coming up and, wanting to watch
movies/play games the whole time, I built a 15 D-cell battery pack.  The
fully charged voltage is 24.2 volts.  I searched on Google and found
that the power port on Apple's new laptops are standard 2.5mm stereo
audio jacks (surprise!) so I connected the pack (with the polarity in
mind) to a 2.5mm plug, connected to the ibook, and it works.  My
question is: at what voltage will the iBook so into sleep mode, if at
all?  I heard somewhere not to go under 12 volts, to avoid damage to the
iBook; is this true?
I don't think it's going to matter.  When the menu bar ICON switches 
from Charged to On Battery you may have reached the point where the 
external battery pack isn't helping.  I say may because it might 
still be providing some power to run the computer and the iBook's 
battery is providing the rest, I don't know for sure, it depends on 
the internal power circuitry.  You could test it by monitoring the 
current from the battery pack and reduce the voltage (use fewer and 
fewer cells).  When the "On Battery" ICON comes on if the pack is 
still supplying significant current then it is helping.

I would at a minimum put a fuse right off the battery pack.
Have you checked into auto/air adapters (and if your flight has outlets).
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Re: iBook G4 ext Batt

[Steve Fuller]

On Feb 1, 2005, at 9:35 PM, Andrew, a Mac Freak wrote:
Hello, I have a 14 hour plane flight coming up and, wanting to watch
movies/play games the whole time, I built a 15 D-cell battery pack.  
The
One other thing to do is check the web site for the airline you are 
flying on. Many planes now have electrical outlets available for people 
with laptops. The airline's site should have info on what plane your 
flight will be on, and details about the power jacks, if they exist.

Steve
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[Andrew, a Mac Freak]

Hello, I have a 14 hour plane flight coming up and, wanting to watch
movies/play games the whole time, I built a 15 D-cell battery pack.  The
fully charged voltage is 24.2 volts.  I searched on Google and found
that the power port on Apple's new laptops are standard 2.5mm stereo
audio jacks (surprise!) so I connected the pack (with the polarity in
mind) to a 2.5mm plug, connected to the ibook, and it works.  My
question is: at what voltage will the iBook so into sleep mode, if at
all?  I heard somewhere not to go under 12 volts, to avoid damage to the
iBook; is this true?

Andrew

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Re: what system for iBook G4 1gHz?

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On Dec 16, 2004, at 12:56 PM, Hal wrote:
Can anyone tell me what OSX version shipped with the 1gHz iBook G4 
(12" model)?

I just got one, and want to reinstall the system, but didn't get a set 
of discs with it.
I just bought an ibook G4 1.2 ghz and they sent me 10.3.5.
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[Hal]

Can anyone tell me what OSX version shipped with the 1gHz iBook G4 (12" 
model)?

I just got one, and want to reinstall the system, but didn't get a set 
of discs with it.

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Re: Ibook G3 to ibook G4

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> Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from
> G3 iBook To G4 iBook
> that is what I was going to do with my new iBook  but then I got to
> thinking was there any thing  in the Mac OS just for the G3 and wont be
> there for the G4
> Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><
> 

Just transfer your users folder with CCC.
 
That way all G4 support files will remain. You may have to add some apps
later.

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Re: Ibook G3 to ibook G4

[michael Vogt]

That was what I thought to but I thought I would ask and I'm doing as 
we type
so will see what might be missing
Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><
On Nov 22, 2004, at 3:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

On 22/11/04 16:50, "michael Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from
G3 iBook To G4 iBook
that is what I was going to do with my new iBook  but then I got to
thinking was there any thing  in the Mac OS just for the G3 and wont 
be
there for the G4
I'm assuming, since you mention 'Carbon Copy Cloner', that you're 
referring
to OS X.

If that's the case, then know that when I got my PowerBook G4 17", I 
cloned
the Mac OS X system partition on my PowerBook G3 Pismo and restored it 
over
the PowerBook 17 internal hard disk  (which I did while in FireWire 
target
mode). Since my PowerBook G3 Pismo didn't have some G4-based 
applications
(like GarageBand), after I checked that the cloning was successful and 
that
I could boot the 17", I then proceeded to install the missing 
applications
from the installation DVD that came with the 17".

I've been using my PowerBook 17" for over a month now without any 
adverse
effect.

I believe that, except for some applications, the OS X system 
installation
is always the same no matter what the target Macintosh is. For 
instance, all
installations I've done on various Macintosh have all the video card 
drivers
for all the cards supported by Mac OS X, no matter if a given card 
would be
usable in that Macintosh or not.

So, if OS X runs fine on your iBook G3, then it should work fine on 
your
iBook G4...

-Laurent.

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Re: Ibook G3 to ibook G4

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On Nov 22, 2004, at 2:50 PM, michael Vogt wrote:
Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from 
G3 iBook To G4 iBook
that is what I was going to do with my new iBook  but then I got to 
thinking was there any thing  in the Mac OS just for the G3 and wont 
be there for the G4
Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><
I have done this successfully with G4 -> G5 towers.
If this is a brand new G4 iBook, it will ask if you want to copy over 
your files and settings from the old one, if it supports firewire.

You may lack some apps, for example, dvd player is not installed if 
there is no dvd drive.

Belts&suspenders method: CCC old system to new system, then do an 
immediate Archive&Re-install of the system. That keeps all your old 
data and installs a fresh system with everything your current hardware 
supports.

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Re: Ibook G3 to ibook G4

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On 22/11/04 16:50, "michael Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from
> G3 iBook To G4 iBook
> that is what I was going to do with my new iBook  but then I got to
> thinking was there any thing  in the Mac OS just for the G3 and wont be
> there for the G4

I'm assuming, since you mention 'Carbon Copy Cloner', that you're referring
to OS X.

If that's the case, then know that when I got my PowerBook G4 17", I cloned
the Mac OS X system partition on my PowerBook G3 Pismo and restored it over
the PowerBook 17 internal hard disk  (which I did while in FireWire target
mode). Since my PowerBook G3 Pismo didn't have some G4-based applications
(like GarageBand), after I checked that the cloning was successful and that
I could boot the 17", I then proceeded to install the missing applications
from the installation DVD that came with the 17".

I've been using my PowerBook 17" for over a month now without any adverse
effect.

I believe that, except for some applications, the OS X system installation
is always the same no matter what the target Macintosh is. For instance, all
installations I've done on various Macintosh have all the video card drivers
for all the cards supported by Mac OS X, no matter if a given card would be
usable in that Macintosh or not.

So, if OS X runs fine on your iBook G3, then it should work fine on your
iBook G4...

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[michael Vogt]

Has any ever just use Carbon Copy Cloner to take all there stuff from 
G3 iBook To G4 iBook
that is what I was going to do with my new iBook  but then I got to 
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ibook G4 Heating

[Seb Payne]

Hi All

I'm new to the G-Books list. I am having a strange problem with my iBook G4
(1GHz, 14" 2003 model). In the bottom left hand corner (I think the CPU is
here!), there is a sort of burn mark coming through. You have to look
directly at it with a lamp to see it but it is starting to concern me!

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Re: Return refurb iBook G4 12" or not?

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 16/08/04 09:27, "Allen Lambert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just got my refurbed iBook G4 1 ghz from Apple on Friday, and I love
> it. There's a slight problem with the screen in that the back left
> corner is warped a bit inward by somewhere between 1/16 and 1/8 inch.
> Everything appears so far to be fully functional, and in addition they
> sent a much larger hard drive than the one I ordered - a "55 Gig" hard
> drive as compared to a 30 gig (by the way, what would I call that 55
> gig, a 60 gig, or a 50 gig?)
> 
> I'd like advice from the list if they would recommend returning the
> ibook or not. I know ultimately my decision should be based on whether
> I can live with it, and I think I can, but I'm wondering if the list
> thinks this is a big enough issue to mess with.

If it's not perfect, you should definitely return it.

The hard drive is most likely a 60 GB...

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[Allen Lambert]

I just got my refurbed iBook G4 1 ghz from Apple on Friday, and I love 
it. There's a slight problem with the screen in that the back left 
corner is warped a bit inward by somewhere between 1/16 and 1/8 inch. 
Everything appears so far to be fully functional, and in addition they 
sent a much larger hard drive than the one I ordered - a "55 Gig" hard 
drive as compared to a 30 gig (by the way, what would I call that 55 
gig, a 60 gig, or a 50 gig?)

I'd like advice from the list if they would recommend returning the 
ibook or not. I know ultimately my decision should be based on whether 
I can live with it, and I think I can, but I'm wondering if the list 
thinks this is a big enough issue to mess with.

Thanks!
Allen
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Re: My new iBook G4!!

[Darkwolf45]

I like the way you think.
While this IS a PC oriented campus, and I HAVE had troubles with profs who requires PC 
only files there, there is at least one mac lab there, and there is at least one IT 
person there that knows macs.  The one guy I know personally should at the very least 
be able to point me in the right direction to clear up any problems, so long as my 
iBook is compatible with their network.  From what everyone is telling me, however, 
I'm thinking it shouldn't be much of a problem.
The Printers in question are both HP printers, each of them installed on at least one 
mac, but I would definately like to consolidate the several computers printing needs 
to one printer.
Brian

In a message dated 7/28/2004 12:12:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> writes:

>If you have a hub or switch already connecting the other systems, then 
>it'll be all you need.
>
>
>>  Keep inmind, i had hoped to put PCs and macs on this wireless network.
>
>802.11b and G is 802.11B or G. Bits is Bits, they don't care what OS 
>the bits came from...
>
>With the right adapter you can put a game console on that network.
>
>You'll need to use your Mac to administer the base station, but 
>anything can be a client.
>
>> Next, The school i go to has a couple wireless hotspots, but is PC 
>> oriented.  What are the odds that I will be able to interface using 
>> these hotspots and my iBook?
>...
>If they require a VPN connection, probably all you need to know is the 
>name of the VPN type (PPTP or L2TP), VPN server, and a 
>username/password to use. Then use Internet Connect to set up the 
>connection.
>
>If your profs demand PC versions of Office files, when you save them, 
>check the box in the file-save dialog to 'append file extension'.
>
>They'll never know it came from a Mac.
>
>Defensively learn Unix. Get the book " Learning Unix for Mac OSX 
>Panther" One, you'll learn a lot of cool and useful stuff. Two, you'll 
>be able to bullsh*t them by talking in terms of "My computer's running 
>Unix, what do I need to know to connect to the wireless..." They're 
>likely to presume you mean Linux, and give you the basic technical data 
>you need to do these connections.
>
>
>
>It's sounds like you have the typical PC Weenie IT folks, who are too 
>stupid and lazy to learn anything, and so respond to anything beyond 
>their pitiful level of knowledge as 'not supported'.
>I have a real desire to apply copious cluestick to people like that; 
>their job function is *support* the users, not dictate to them.
>
>
>
>(why yes, that IS a head-shaped dent in the wall next to my desk...why 
>do you ask, and do you have any aspirin?)
>
>Ask them for written or web-based instructions for connecting via the 
>wireless, and let us look at them.
>
>
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>
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Re: My new iBook G4!!

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 28, 2004, at 11:26 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote:
Why is it that Mac IT folks are expected to know all the ins and outs 
of Windows, and all the ins and outs of the Mac, but PC IT people are 
unable to comprehend the deep mysteries that are the Mac?
Because Windows covers 95% computers on this planet (and 99 to 100% of 
the area they supervise) and they have enough work as of now?
Yeah. I have to know all of that too. I'm NOT just a Mac admin. I 
administer: Windows, Macs, Oracle databases, and three or four flavors 
of Linux. I spend a LOT of time on Google ;-)

Like I said, I'm not a rocket scientist; this stuff isn't that hard.
And yeah... last time I copied Office file from a Mac (Office 2004) to 
a PC (Office 2003), I had to redo half of the tables.

You shouldn't have had to do that. Most likely it's due to different 
printers.

And yeah... even though Panther supposedly supports Windows printing, 
one out of three printers in our office just won't show up in the list 
and there seems to be no way to put it there.
Make sure they're all on the same workgroup; that's the usual cause for 
SMB printers not showing up.

Also if you have a domain, you're going to have to get into the 
authenticating against AD stuff on the Macs, which is doable. Easier in 
Panther than it was in Jag, for sure.

Mac-Windows integration is still far from seamless.
I never said it was. I DID say it's not a deep deep mystery, like most 
IT folks treat Macs.


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Re: My new iBook G4!!

[Marcin Wichary]

Why is it that Mac IT folks are expected to know all the ins and outs 
of Windows, and all the ins and outs of the Mac, but PC IT people are 
unable to comprehend the deep mysteries that are the Mac?
Because Windows covers 95% computers on this planet (and 99 to 100% of 
the area they supervise) and they have enough work as of now?

And yeah... last time I copied Office file from a Mac (Office 2004) to 
a PC (Office 2003), I had to redo half of the tables.

And yeah... even though Panther supposedly supports Windows printing, 
one out of three printers in our office just won't show up in the list 
and there seems to be no way to put it there.

And yeah... AirPort Admin Utility on my Panther has a bug and just 
won't let me configure my AirPort Extreme, while the same program on my 
Windows XP works beautifully.

Mac-Windows integration is still far from seamless. I love my new 
PowerBook and I already know I would be living much calmer and more 
satisfied life in the world without Windows. I don't see how Windows 
admins are not entitled to feeling exactly the opposite.

 Marcin Wichary
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Re: My new iBook G4!!

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 28/07/04 11:41, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wow, sounds like this should be an easier problem than I expected.  If that
> turns out to be the case, this should prove to be a completely different
> experience than the last time a Mac was my main computer.

Depends. What was the last Mac that you used as your main computer? How did
you connect (if at all) to the Internet?

You see, you have much more options now, network-wise, but there are
additional things to manage in order to use those options...

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Re: My new iBook G4!!

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 27, 2004, at 11:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi to all, i'm writing this on my brand spanking new handy dandy high 
speed low drag iBook G4, 14" screen, 768 megs RAM, OS X 10.3.4.
This is the first actually new Mac I've ever had, and I words cannot 
express how thrilled I am to be running it and not have to rely on my 
Compaq presario PC which I've learned to despise.
Besides a quick hello, I actuallywanted to post some questions about a 
topic I've never really put much thought to.  i've always been tied to 
desktop computers, and as such have never noticed how clumsy and 
awkward chords are on a laptop like this one.
Hey! Put GarageBand on that thing and you'll find out that chords 
aren't all that clumsy at all :-P

 As such, i'm thinking of taking advantage of the built in Airport 
Extreme card, and hooking it together with my older computers.  I've 
already asked other questions concerning this on other lists, so I'll 
keep this concise and different from the other questions I've already 
posed elsewhere:  How much gear will I need to buy?  Will an airport 
extreme base station do the trick for networking, or will I need to 
buy some more hardware and software as well?
If you have a hub or switch already connecting the other systems, then 
it'll be all you need.


 Keep inmind, i had hoped to put PCs and macs on this wireless network.
802.11b and G is 802.11B or G. Bits is Bits, they don't care what OS 
the bits came from...

With the right adapter you can put a game console on that network.
You'll need to use your Mac to administer the base station, but 
anything can be a client.

Next, The school i go to has a couple wireless hotspots, but is PC 
oriented.  What are the odds that I will be able to interface using 
these hotspots and my iBook?
High. Nearly 100%.
It depends on how they're managing it, but the vast majority of 
wireless networking stuff works just fine with the mac. The WEP key is 
what Airport calls the 'Password'. Wireless is wireless is wireless. 
They would have to go *way* out of their way to make it PC only.

If they require a VPN connection, probably all you need to know is the 
name of the VPN type (PPTP or L2TP), VPN server, and a 
username/password to use. Then use Internet Connect to set up the 
connection.

If your profs demand PC versions of Office files, when you save them, 
check the box in the file-save dialog to 'append file extension'.

They'll never know it came from a Mac.
Defensively learn Unix. Get the book " Learning Unix for Mac OSX 
Panther" One, you'll learn a lot of cool and useful stuff. Two, you'll 
be able to bullsh*t them by talking in terms of "My computer's running 
Unix, what do I need to know to connect to the wireless..." They're 
likely to presume you mean Linux, and give you the basic technical data 
you need to do these connections.


It's sounds like you have the typical PC Weenie IT folks, who are too 
stupid and lazy to learn anything, and so respond to anything beyond 
their pitiful level of knowledge as 'not supported'.

Why is it that Mac IT folks are expected to know all the ins and outs 
of Windows, and all the ins and outs of the Mac, but PC IT people are 
unable to comprehend the deep mysteries that are the Mac? I don't 
know..I manage to know this stuff, and while I'm smart, I'm certainly 
no rocket scientist. I can only conclude that they're bone stupid, or 
worse, remain deliberately ignorant.

Ignorance is a curable condition; willful ignorance is an incurable 
character flaw.

I have a real desire to apply copious cluestick to people like that; 
their job function is *support* the users, not dictate to them.


(why yes, that IS a head-shaped dent in the wall next to my desk...why 
do you ask, and do you have any aspirin?)

Ask them for written or web-based instructions for connecting via the 
wireless, and let us look at them.


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Re: My new iBook G4!!

[Darkwolf45]

>> The AirPort Extreme Base Station should be able to network both  
>> wireless and
>> wired computers. If you have more than one Ethernet wired computer,  
>> you will
>> need an Ethernet hub or, better, a switch.
>>
>> As for the school, you should be able to use those hotspots without any
>> problem. There are even applications that will scan for available  
>> network
>> (like KisMAC).
>>
>> -Laurent.
>> --  
>
>There's also an automatic search feature for hotspots in your  
>neighborhood on the homepage of cnet.com.  Also, check out  
>www.wififreespot.com for a comprehensive list of free wifi hotspots in  
>your area.
>
>
>Zoltan
Wow, sounds like this should be an easier problem than I expected.  If that turns out 
to be the case, this should prove to be a completely different experience than the 
last time a Mac was my main computer.
Thanks for the info,
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Re: My new iBook G4!!

[Zoltan Batiz]

On Jul 28, 2004, at 12:09 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
on 28/07/04 02:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi to all, i'm writing this on my brand spanking new handy dandy high  
speed
low drag iBook G4, 14" screen, 768 megs RAM, OS X 10.3.4.
This is the first actually new Mac I've ever had, and I words cannot  
express
how thrilled I am to be running it and not have to rely on my Compaq  
presario
PC which I've learned to despise.
Besides a quick hello, I actuallywanted to post some questions about  
a topic
I've never really put much thought to.  i've always been tied to  
desktop
computers, and as such have never noticed how clumsy and awkward  
chords are on
a laptop like this one.  As such, i'm thinking of taking advantage of  
the
built in Airport Extreme card, and hooking it together with my older
computers.  I've already asked other questions concerning this on  
other lists,
so I'll keep this concise and different from the other questions I've  
already
posed elsewhere:  How much gear will I need to buy?  Will an airport  
extreme
base station do the trick for networking, or will I need to buy some  
more
hardware and software as well?  Keep inmind, i had hoped to put PCs  
and macs
on this wireless network.
Next, The school i go to has a couple wireless hotspots, but is PC  
oriented.
What are the odds that I will be able to interface using these  
hotspots and my
iBook?
TIA,
Brian
The AirPort Extreme Base Station should be able to network both  
wireless and
wired computers. If you have more than one Ethernet wired computer,  
you will
need an Ethernet hub or, better, a switch.

As for the school, you should be able to use those hotspots without any
problem. There are even applications that will scan for available  
network
(like KisMAC).

-Laurent.
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neighborhood on the homepage of cnet.com.  Also, check out  
www.wififreespot.com for a comprehensive list of free wifi hotspots in  
your area.

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Re: My new iBook G4!!

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 28/07/04 02:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi to all, i'm writing this on my brand spanking new handy dandy high speed
> low drag iBook G4, 14" screen, 768 megs RAM, OS X 10.3.4.
> This is the first actually new Mac I've ever had, and I words cannot express
> how thrilled I am to be running it and not have to rely on my Compaq presario
> PC which I've learned to despise.
> Besides a quick hello, I actuallywanted to post some questions about a topic
> I've never really put much thought to.  i've always been tied to desktop
> computers, and as such have never noticed how clumsy and awkward chords are on
> a laptop like this one.  As such, i'm thinking of taking advantage of the
> built in Airport Extreme card, and hooking it together with my older
> computers.  I've already asked other questions concerning this on other lists,
> so I'll keep this concise and different from the other questions I've already
> posed elsewhere:  How much gear will I need to buy?  Will an airport extreme
> base station do the trick for networking, or will I need to buy some more
> hardware and software as well?  Keep inmind, i had hoped to put PCs and macs
> on this wireless network.
> Next, The school i go to has a couple wireless hotspots, but is PC oriented.
> What are the odds that I will be able to interface using these hotspots and my
> iBook?
> TIA, 
> Brian

The AirPort Extreme Base Station should be able to network both wireless and
wired computers. If you have more than one Ethernet wired computer, you will
need an Ethernet hub or, better, a switch.

As for the school, you should be able to use those hotspots without any
problem. There are even applications that will scan for available network
(like KisMAC).

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My new iBook G4!!

[Darkwolf45]

Hi to all, i'm writing this on my brand spanking new handy dandy high speed low drag 
iBook G4, 14" screen, 768 megs RAM, OS X 10.3.4.
This is the first actually new Mac I've ever had, and I words cannot express how 
thrilled I am to be running it and not have to rely on my Compaq presario PC which 
I've learned to despise.
Besides a quick hello, I actuallywanted to post some questions about a topic I've 
never really put much thought to.  i've always been tied to desktop computers, and as 
such have never noticed how clumsy and awkward chords are on a laptop like this one.  
As such, i'm thinking of taking advantage of the built in Airport Extreme card, and 
hooking it together with my older computers.  I've already asked other questions 
concerning this on other lists, so I'll keep this concise and different from the other 
questions I've already posed elsewhere:  How much gear will I need to buy?  Will an 
airport extreme base station do the trick for networking, or will I need to buy some 
more hardware and software as well?  Keep inmind, i had hoped to put PCs and macs on 
this wireless network.
Next, The school i go to has a couple wireless hotspots, but is PC oriented.  What are 
the odds that I will be able to interface using these hotspots and my iBook?
TIA, 
Brian

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Re: Burning cds on iBook G4

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 27/07/04 16:49, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not sure if my last message went through as I didn't receive a confirmation
> from
> my email program, however, I reformatted my iBook G4, and I'm wondering what
> software from the second install DVD to burn cd's and watch dvd's.
> 
> Please excuse me if I double posted.
> 
> Thanks, Josh

Burning CDs is built-in in OS X, from the Finder, so there is no need to
install additional software. DVD Player is also installed automatically if
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Re: Burning cds on iBook G4

[dmxsoulja3]

Not sure if my last message went through as I didn't receive a confirmation from
my email program, however, I reformatted my iBook G4, and I'm wondering what
software from the second install DVD to burn cd's and watch dvd's.

Please excuse me if I double posted.

Thanks, Josh

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Re: iBook G4

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What don't you get with the iBook G4/800 12.1in that you do get with the
PowerBook G4/1GHz 12.1in other than the speed difference?

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Re: Ibook G4 lower RAM slot

[geno]

yeah I believe it's the same way iBook G4 or G3. It's a way to separate the
iBooks from the Powerbooks.

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Re: Ibook G4 lower RAM slot

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Really?!!!

I thought the iBook G4 had a different MB design. What a pity.

Ben

> The ram that in the "lower slot", is soldered to the motherboard. Not much
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Re: Ibook G4 lower RAM slot

[geno]

The ram that in the "lower slot", is soldered to the motherboard. Not much
chance of swapping that out. I wish a company like Newer Tech would do a
program where you send your iBook in and they remove that chip and upgrade it.

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Ibook G4 lower RAM slot

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

So I manage to reuse the 256MB DDR 333 card on the iBook (it came from the
G4 15").

Now I would like to access the lower slot. It is really difficult to access
the lower RAM slot in the iBook G4 14"?

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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

They have replaced the logic board, this is why the serial # does not show up.
Thanks for your support,
BTW. I have two 256 MB dimms taken from my other laptop (an Aluminium 
15"): will thay work in the 14" G4 iBook?

They physically fit but I don't want to create troubles.

o
Don't know if it applies to iBook, but for the PowerBook G3, if you would
update the firmware to a newer version, you would lose the serial number
which is apparently stored in some section of the firmware...
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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

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on 30/05/04 21:23, Beniamino Cenci Goga at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I brought my Book to the dealer: he called Apple and according to
> serial # my unit was defective. So I left the Book and after a week
> or so I was give it back.
> Same book, same serial # under the battery, but the software thing
> does not contain the serial # anymore.
> 
> It's a mere speculation, however it is weird.

I would presume it was a replacement logic board - so unless they put the
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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

I brought my Book to the dealer: he called Apple and according to 
serial # my unit was defective. So I left the Book and after a week 
or so I was give it back.
Same book, same serial # under the battery, but the software thing 
does not contain the serial # anymore.

It's a mere speculation, however it is weird.
Ben
Did you try calling the dealer or Apple directly? When they service an item
there is a warranty on them and I believe this would qualify as apotential
problem. Some software packages may rely on this information for serial
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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

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On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 11:22 am -0400, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

>Don't know if it applies to iBook, but for the PowerBook G3, if you would
>update the firmware to a newer version, you would lose the serial number
>which is apparently stored in some section of the firmware...

That doesn't seem to have happened to this pismo - firmware was upgraded
about 2 years ago and the original serial number's still reported.

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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

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on 30/05/04 03:26, Beniamino Cenci Goga at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My iBook G4 14" had problems at startup (I posted a question on this
> ML). It went through the Apple dealer and it was fixed by Apple
> itself.
> 
> Now the Book is fine but it does not show anymore the serial number
> on the Hardware section of System Profile.

Don't know if it applies to iBook, but for the PowerBook G3, if you would
update the firmware to a newer version, you would lose the serial number
which is apparently stored in some section of the firmware...

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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

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> Now the Book is fine but it does not show anymore the serial number
> on the Hardware section of System Profile.

Did you try calling the dealer or Apple directly? When they service an item
there is a warranty on them and I believe this would qualify as apotential
problem. Some software packages may rely on this information for serial
numbers. I suggest you to check with Apple.

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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

[John McClernan]

That is strange, indeed. My serial number does show up there, on my G4 iBook
(10.3.3).
John


On 5/30/04 10:34 AM, "Beniamino Cenci Goga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> William is correct. You can also find it under the battery, if your iBook is
>> shut down.
>> Cheers,
>> John
> 
> 
> Yes, I know where it can be found. The weird thing is that it does
> not show up via software.
> 
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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

William is correct. You can also find it under the battery, if your iBook is
shut down.
Cheers,
John

Yes, I know where it can be found. The weird thing is that it does 
not show up via software.

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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

[John McClernan]

William is correct. You can also find it under the battery, if your iBook is
shut down.
Cheers,
John


On 5/30/04 9:39 AM, "AKR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 30-May-04, at 12:26 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote:
> 
>> My iBook G4 14" had problems at startup (I posted a question on this
>> ML). It went through the Apple dealer and it was fixed by Apple
>> itself.
>> 
>> Now the Book is fine but it does not show anymore the serial number on
>> the Hardware section of System Profile.
> 
> Does it show the serial number for you when you go to "About this Mac"
> and click
> on the version number just below the Mac OS X at the top ?  If you
> click a couple of times, you will see the serial number appear.
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Re: iBook G4 14" serial number

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On 30-May-04, at 12:26 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote:
My iBook G4 14" had problems at startup (I posted a question on this 
ML). It went through the Apple dealer and it was fixed by Apple 
itself.

Now the Book is fine but it does not show anymore the serial number on 
the Hardware section of System Profile.
Does it show the serial number for you when you go to "About this Mac" 
and click
on the version number just below the Mac OS X at the top ?  If you 
click a couple of times, you will see the serial number appear.

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iBook G4 14" serial number

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

My iBook G4 14" had problems at startup (I posted a question on this 
ML). It went through the Apple dealer and it was fixed by Apple 
itself.

Now the Book is fine but it does not show anymore the serial number 
on the Hardware section of System Profile.

Ideas?
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iBook G4 14" boot issue

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

This brand new iBook G4 14" does not boot after a cold boot: it emits 
the bong but then the screen stays dark and the HD does not spin.

I have to hit the ctrl + apple + power combination to restart it to 
have it booting properly.

The hardware test says it is okay. I need it to finish my course at 
the university (I teach at the vet school) so I will be able to send 
back, in case it is an hardware problem), to Apple only at the end of 
May.

Ideas?
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Re: iBook G4 into a G3.

[Luis Autrique]

Ben,

I might have to take my words back, actually the MoBo is about 1/2 the 
size of the computer. let me know if you want the pdf (4.1 megs).

Luis

On Apr 17, 2004, at 2:00 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote:

Personally I believe that the larger size is related to the screen, as 
the external connectors on both computers are on the same side (left 
facing the computer) and actually occupy the same space.

modem - ethernet - FW - USB - USB - video -audio.

Thanks for the ironical replies ;-) but my question was serious!

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Re: iBook G4 into a G3.

[Luis Autrique]

Ben,

No, you can not, look at the apple service source manual for the iBook 
G4, and you'll see that all of the space is occupied on the 14" too.
I have a PDF copy of it if you want it.

Regards,

Luis

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Personally I believe that the larger size is related to the screen, as 
the external connectors on both computers are on the same side (left 
facing the computer) and actually occupy the same space.

modem - ethernet - FW - USB - USB - video -audio.

Thanks for the ironical replies ;-) but my question was serious!

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Re: iBook G4 into a G3.

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Personally I believe that the larger size is related to the screen, 
as the external connectors on both computers are on the same side 
(left facing the computer) and actually occupy the same space.

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Thanks for the ironical replies ;-) but my question was serious!

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Re: iBook G4 into a G3.

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Cute! You could fold it also.

Tom

>> Is it feasible to put the logic board of an iBook G4 14" into an ice
>> iBook 12" dual USB.
> 
> After working into a few PowerBook models and seeing how tight the space is
> in a laptop, I would imagine you would have to bend the board a little bit,
> or maybe cut a couple of pieces here and there to make it fit. Of course, it
> would probably not work anymore, but I'm sure it could fit!
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