Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
I lost interest in KOL rather quickly though. A lot of the humor just seemed extremely corny to me. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. From: elementalult...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:07:59 -0600 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I have to disagree, Kingdom of Loathing has very strong substance to it. Its got solid backing mechanics, amusing quest lines, a good battle system, and quite a bit of replayability. But I will agree that sryth is the only serious RPG to date that has much to it. Most other games either have a good storyline or a good battle system, not both. Its rather saddening. -- From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:45 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I agree. THe only things keeping me in Sryth are A. It's the only remotely accessible such game that actually has any substance to it and B. when new signgle-player adventures do come out they still manage to keep me interested. And the GM has been extremely accomodating with regard to us blind folks. I haven't known many other such folks who'd do that. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:01:29 -0400 From: thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Bryan, Like many here it was the number of actual adventures that helped me decide to pay for a guild subscription. Some of them are quite good, interesting, and Sryth is beginning to lose that with the grinding content. It is almost as bad as the online RPG games that obsess over player verses player style play, and don't have much of anything else to speak of. Bryan Peterson wrote: I couldn't agree more. In fact what determines the Creyne Blade is the amount of gold inside the sarcofagus. If it's more than 250 upi ;; find it. But I totally agree. I liked the game when it was all about actual adventures. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
I've tried about six times to get into KoL myself, and each time I just don't find there's enough in the general plot and world of the game to keep me interested in playing. The adventure in each location has the possibilities for interesting content (even if personally I'd prefer a more conventionally explorable world), and once some kind people in the talk channel pointed me in the direction of the various cooking and selling bots it felt much less grindy, - however I just cannot seem to really care about completing the various quests, or feel a sense that I've done something worth while even when i complete them. Then of course, I did find the item count in the game rather ridiculous. Frequently I'd end up with literally hundreds of items which I either didn't know the use of, or which were practically useless, --- like the low grade weapons and armor. While I realize the point was to try out the various crafting methods in the game to make useful items, there were literally so many to combine that experimentation in the vague hope of creating something got rather dull after a while, - and then, even if I did create something, odds were that I'd probably either found or bought something better. Maybe it's also that KoL isn't too newby friendly, sinse so much in the game requires knolidge of some pretty whacked out puzles or odd combinations that I just ended up looking up online, - sinse given the limited number of dayly adventures it was either that or spend absolutely weeks casting around for a vaguely right answer with no hints in site. Just my thought of course, and I know many people enjoy KoL, which is why there's such an extensive entry on it on audiogames.net. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I lost interest in KOL rather quickly though. A lot of the humor just seemed extremely corny to me. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. From: elementalult...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:07:59 -0600 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I have to disagree, Kingdom of Loathing has very strong substance to it. Its got solid backing mechanics, amusing quest lines, a good battle system, and quite a bit of replayability. But I will agree that sryth is the only serious RPG to date that has much to it. Most other games either have a good storyline or a good battle system, not both. Its rather saddening. -- From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:45 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I agree. THe only things keeping me in Sryth are A. It's the only remotely accessible such game that actually has any substance to it and B. when new signgle-player adventures do come out they still manage to keep me interested. And the GM has been extremely accomodating with regard to us blind folks. I haven't known many other such folks who'd do that. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:01:29 -0400 From: thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Bryan, Like many here it was the number of actual adventures that helped me decide to pay for a guild subscription. Some of them are quite good, interesting, and Sryth is beginning to lose that with the grinding content. It is almost as bad as the online RPG games that obsess over player verses player style play, and don't have much of anything else to speak of. Bryan Peterson wrote: I couldn't agree more. In fact what determines the Creyne Blade is the amount of gold inside the sarcofagus. If it's more than 250 upi ;; find it. But I totally agree. I liked the game when it was all about actual adventures. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
I can see where you're coming from, and like I said in my last message, basically if you don't like it, you're never going to like it. One thing we have in common dark is that we're both hardcore exploration fanatics. I'm not sure what your views on puzzles are, but generally I end up looking them up anyway, since in my experience the majority of puzzles, especially in text games, are similar to those in KoL, requiring either guess the syntax or very simplistic thinking disguised as overthinking. KoL is a game built more on humor and references more than actual plot, though it does have a pretty solid plotline, if not a little weird. In a sense I guess its more like grand theft auto, in that technically the plot is just you taking missions from the council and completing them rather than actually advancing a storyline, perhaps that's why you can't get into it. Anyway, this is just speculation, KoL's definitely one of those games that you either love or hate, there doesn't seem to be much of an in between. As for the item count, that does get a bit crazy, but I'd personally prefer a massive item count like you see in many MMO's over say, sryth's item count, where one of two options present themselves, everyone's either wearing the highest end equipment they can get without donating, or the highest they can get with tokens. It just makes each character seem more unique if everyone's not wearing the same stuff, eating the same stuff every day, etc. Anyway I'm really not sure why I'm writing all this out since I'm not trying to convince you to play, just wanted to say my piece I guess. -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:46 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I've tried about six times to get into KoL myself, and each time I just don't find there's enough in the general plot and world of the game to keep me interested in playing. The adventure in each location has the possibilities for interesting content (even if personally I'd prefer a more conventionally explorable world), and once some kind people in the talk channel pointed me in the direction of the various cooking and selling bots it felt much less grindy, - however I just cannot seem to really care about completing the various quests, or feel a sense that I've done something worth while even when i complete them. Then of course, I did find the item count in the game rather ridiculous. Frequently I'd end up with literally hundreds of items which I either didn't know the use of, or which were practically useless, --- like the low grade weapons and armor. While I realize the point was to try out the various crafting methods in the game to make useful items, there were literally so many to combine that experimentation in the vague hope of creating something got rather dull after a while, - and then, even if I did create something, odds were that I'd probably either found or bought something better. Maybe it's also that KoL isn't too newby friendly, sinse so much in the game requires knolidge of some pretty whacked out puzles or odd combinations that I just ended up looking up online, - sinse given the limited number of dayly adventures it was either that or spend absolutely weeks casting around for a vaguely right answer with no hints in site. Just my thought of course, and I know many people enjoy KoL, which is why there's such an extensive entry on it on audiogames.net. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
While I don't mind a few grinding/xp areas I really hope this doesn't become too much a trend. In the earlier days it was excellent as Sryth was more a story based sort of thing. I truly hope Mathew doesn't loose sight of that appeal factor. Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi, In the immortal words of Shaggy, zoiks! Either way that is a lot for a shield, but i know what you mean. Adventurer tokans are too rare to spend them all on a good shield, and the alternative is to play the Ice Troll Layer 36 times to get something as good as it. Given the choice I'd pick the 36 runs through theIce Troll Layer too. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
Hi. I must admit, I do see your point about characters wearing and using different items, as a pretty heavy going single player bod I probably didn't think of that. Actually I wouldn't say I either love or hate KoL, it's really an in betwene thing. It's almost the case that I see it's clear advantages, but then do not find enough substance in the plot and game world to keep me going, and yet in a sense i stil regret not persisting with the game more. On the puzles front, this is why I admire systems like the invisiclues of the old Infocom games, systems which can just give you greater and greater nudges until you get something. This stil gives you some sense of discovery and satisfaction, but doesn't get you frustrated. I've actually seen my Gm in mutants and monsterminds pulling similar stunts through npcs when we've all been stuck on an in gamemystery. I'd say my favourite sorts of puzles are those found in games like Sryth or gamebooks. Puzles where rather than guessing an obscure reference or odd syntacs, if you pay attention to the story and world, talk to every npc, visit every location and occasionally put two and two together, you will find the answer. A great example of this sort of puzle occurs in the Snes rpg Secret of mana. About a quarter of the way through the game, you visit the desert town of Cakariko. They have no water. This is initially thought to be a problem with the fire elemental living close by, but after you fix that (something which has to be done to progress in the game), they stil don't have their water back. Much much muuch later on, when you can fly around the world, you can speak to an npc living in a lighthouse, one of the things he will tell you is water is attracted to a sea hair's tale. A litle later, you can visit an island wear a sea hair's tale is being sold (admittedly for quite a lot of cash, though by that stage in the game you usually have money to spend0. If you buy the item and then return to Cakariko desert, you can use it to attract water and fill their well. they'll give you a status effect reducing item, but this isn't entirely necessary for completing the game, it's just one of those litle quests. these are my favourite sorts of puzles, those intimiately connected with the world and it's plot. this is again, probably why I'm a litle uncertain of KoL, because of it's less substansive plot. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I can see where you're coming from, and like I said in my last message, basically if you don't like it, you're never going to like it. One thing we have in common dark is that we're both hardcore exploration fanatics. I'm not sure what your views on puzzles are, but generally I end up looking them up anyway, since in my experience the majority of puzzles, especially in text games, are similar to those in KoL, requiring either guess the syntax or very simplistic thinking disguised as overthinking. KoL is a game built more on humor and references more than actual plot, though it does have a pretty solid plotline, if not a little weird. In a sense I guess its more like grand theft auto, in that technically the plot is just you taking missions from the council and completing them rather than actually advancing a storyline, perhaps that's why you can't get into it. Anyway, this is just speculation, KoL's definitely one of those games that you either love or hate, there doesn't seem to be much of an in between. As for the item count, that does get a bit crazy, but I'd personally prefer a massive item count like you see in many MMO's over say, sryth's item count, where one of two options present themselves, everyone's either wearing the highest end equipment they can get without donating, or the highest they can get with tokens. It just makes each character seem more unique if everyone's not wearing the same stuff, eating the same stuff every day, etc. Anyway I'm really not sure why I'm writing all this out since I'm not trying to convince you to play, just wanted to say my piece I guess. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Amen to that. I used to logue into Sryth every day or two and get really excited about new advs. Now, I frequently logue in once a month and then find, oh look, another grinding area. I did send Matthew a message about this worrying trend last year, but I'm not sure whether he got it sinse he didn't reply. i don't want to spam him, but I'm very tempted to see if I can put together something more pointed on my thoughts of where Sryth is going. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye While I don't mind a few grinding/xp areas I really hope this doesn't become too much a trend. In the earlier days it was excellent as Sryth was more a story based sort of thing. I truly hope Mathew doesn't loose sight of that appeal factor. Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi, In the immortal words of Shaggy, zoiks! Either way that is a lot for a shield, but i know what you mean. Adventurer tokans are too rare to spend them all on a good shield, and the alternative is to play the Ice Troll Layer 36 times to get something as good as it. Given the choice I'd pick the 36 runs through theIce Troll Layer too. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
I couldn't agree more Dark. My greatest fear is that Sryth is going to turn into another PVP type game It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. From: d...@xgam.org To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:25:57 +0100 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Amen to that. I used to logue into Sryth every day or two and get really excited about new advs. Now, I frequently logue in once a month and then find, oh look, another grinding area. I did send Matthew a message about this worrying trend last year, but I'm not sure whether he got it sinse he didn't reply. i don't want to spam him, but I'm very tempted to see if I can put together something more pointed on my thoughts of where Sryth is going. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye While I don't mind a few grinding/xp areas I really hope this doesn't become too much a trend. In the earlier days it was excellent as Sryth was more a story based sort of thing. I truly hope Mathew doesn't loose sight of that appeal factor. Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi, In the immortal words of Shaggy, zoiks! Either way that is a lot for a shield, but i know what you mean. Adventurer tokans are too rare to spend them all on a good shield, and the alternative is to play the Ice Troll Layer 36 times to get something as good as it. Given the choice I'd pick the 36 runs through theIce Troll Layer too. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
Hi Dark Your mention of the email brings to mind my recent one about the Sarnguard Isle. As I'd said I've tgot the gloves but still can't open the dang door there for some reason or other. When you get frustrated a game does loose some appeal. Originally the story was part of the attraction, perhaps it's worth letting him know that it should be more important then stat crunching. Ron - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Amen to that. I used to logue into Sryth every day or two and get really excited about new advs. Now, I frequently logue in once a month and then find, oh look, another grinding area. I did send Matthew a message about this worrying trend last year, but I'm not sure whether he got it sinse he didn't reply. i don't want to spam him, but I'm very tempted to see if I can put together something more pointed on my thoughts of where Sryth is going. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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When I saw Sarngard originally, i thought we were getting more story, afterall it gives Thane Pyrond distinctly more plot. However the way it's been implemented is indeed rather unsatisfactory. As I said, I don't want to spam the man, but I have seen this worrying trend for the passed few years, which is why my Sryth playing has decreased so much. While I also don't want to cryticize someone who's writing I greatly admire, I do also believe the Gm has become rather financially greedy. Originally, I thought subscription for a game was a good idea, --- it shows my appreciation, and gives the gm the security to develope. The original Tallys idea was okay too, --- back in the days when the most expensive gear was 32 tocans or so. donating here was a way to show your appreciation with a few more dollars which gave you an extra bit of push, - though not too much. However recently, it seems there are many areas in the game which are just At sponges, and the disparity betwene Tallys items and the most powerful in game ones is just extreme! It wouldn't matter if you could stil get through the adventures with normal equipment, - but most of the time you can't, and with the game now rewarding players for extensive donating and grinding, this gap is just getting larger. This is the chief reason why i've mooved much more into the realms of gamebooks these days. I do have half a mind to send the Gm an honest E-mail, just to let him know that not everyone out there approves of Sryth's competitive leanings. I also find it sad that Ekitrina is a character I am deeply fond of, she has her own background, story, appearence and personality. yet the more generically grindy Sryth becomes, the less in touch with her as a character I feel, which isn't nice, considdering how long we've been together. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Dark Your mention of the email brings to mind my recent one about the Sarnguard Isle. As I'd said I've tgot the gloves but still can't open the dang door there for some reason or other. When you get frustrated a game does loose some appeal. Originally the story was part of the attraction, perhaps it's worth letting him know that it should be more important then stat crunching. Ron - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Amen to that. I used to logue into Sryth every day or two and get really excited about new advs. Now, I frequently logue in once a month and then find, oh look, another grinding area. I did send Matthew a message about this worrying trend last year, but I'm not sure whether he got it sinse he didn't reply. i don't want to spam him, but I'm very tempted to see if I can put together something more pointed on my thoughts of where Sryth is going. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I seem to remember the developers discussing making a system that gives you hints based on what quest you're on at some point, but it seems they never really got around to it. There's some hints in the quest log as the quest advances, but in my experience those never really helped much. Yes, I agree completely, the puzzles of mainstream RPG's especailly are usually the kind of puzzles I like as well. The problem with KoL is, while it uses those types of puzzles, it doesn't really have a world, hah, it kind of steals from everyone elses world. Some parts have backstory, some parts don't. Some parts have a bit of history, others are just learn as you go type of things. It's a very weird game, and the only real way to actually get into it is to not expect it to give you fully featured history or backstory and play more for the humorous and completely whacky missions that are usually based on some other game. KoL definitely isn't one of my favorite games, and I actually don't play it that often unless new content or the like comes out or I just feel like playing through an ascention again, but its something I'll always keep coming back to just to see what craziness the developers come up with for new content and adventures. On the subject of Snes games, you may not believe it, but my favorite RPG to date is still Mario RPG. Its got really cool puzzles, a surprisingly full and detailed world, a great plot, and the characters have depth which is surprising in a mario game, since mario even in the modern world without RPG elements is just a platformer. Its got a really, really advanced battle system, where 90% of the battle is under the players control. Whereas most RPG's just allow you to pick an attack, special attack, spell or whatever and watch it, mario RPG gives you control over that attack. Every single regular attack can be timed to do more damage and a little something extra, for example, bowzer with his chain chomp weapon will spin it above his head and slam the chomp into the enemy like a morning star, but if you press a right as the chomp is about to hit, the chain chomp will latch on to the enemy and bit them a few times for more damage. Specail attacks are the same way. Take Mario's super flame attack. You actually have to repeatedly tap y to get him to throw as many fireballs as possible. Its really neat. Out of battle its got platforming elements, you can have mario jump around and run, and often times puzzles involve doing crazy things, firing yourself from a cannon to hit a switch, driving a mine cart, jumping across tadpoles to play a musical melody, all kinds of neat things. This is by far the type of game I prefer, a game with well thought out and challenging puzzles, but also very deep mechanics that really give the game some depth and power. So far, no RPG I've heard of to date has come close to being as advanced as mario RPG was mechanically. Animations sure, and I've heard legend of dragoon comes close, but from the little I saw, even that one falls a bit short. I'd love to see an audiogame like this, and would program one if I had the time or patience. The audiogames community needs to expand more into the RPG genre, in my opinion, regardless of voice actors and all that. Entombed has proven that a game can be just as fun without full voice acting quite nicely. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I think this is something we all need to do. It sounds to me like we've all been tempted to do it at one point or another, but are uncertain as to weather or not one opinion will have all that much effect. Perhaps we should either put together something that says what we're all thinking, at least us exploration freaks anyway, and just send it, or we could all use the feedback form and send our own sepperate message to really try and drive the point home. I'd love to see sryth turn back in the direction it used to be, when we could actually adventure and have fun rather than having to grind through the same area 50 times to get to the new, possibly fun and overpoweringly rewarding content. Just my two cents though. -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Amen to that. I used to logue into Sryth every day or two and get really excited about new advs. Now, I frequently logue in once a month and then find, oh look, another grinding area. I did send Matthew a message about this worrying trend last year, but I'm not sure whether he got it sinse he didn't reply. i don't want to spam him, but I'm very tempted to see if I can put together something more pointed on my thoughts of where Sryth is going. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye While I don't mind a few grinding/xp areas I really hope this doesn't become too much a trend. In the earlier days it was excellent as Sryth was more a story based sort of thing. I truly hope Mathew doesn't loose sight of that appeal factor. Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi, In the immortal words of Shaggy, zoiks! Either way that is a lot for a shield, but i know what you mean. Adventurer tokans are too rare to spend them all on a good shield, and the alternative is to play the Ice Troll Layer 36 times to get something as good as it. Given the choice I'd pick the 36 runs through theIce Troll Layer too. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Actually you make a point. Perhaps a bit of good old fashion concensus here might be a plan, - especially given the amount of stat grinding pvp freaks out there. I can never forget how those opinions destroyed the Muelsfell game and turned it into a grinding pvp monster before it even started, - despite some potentially really interesting possibilities in developing your resources for map exploration. Perhaps several polite, though firm messages making our opinions known might be the way to go here. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hints in KoL would be good indeed, and something I'd much prefer to looking up puzle solutions online. As for graphical rpgs, well sadly Marrio rpg never had a release over here, so I never had chance to encounter the game. I have read a script however and agree on the rather surprising character depth. The mechanics of the Grandia games always amazed me for their symplicity, and yet how flexible they were. Each character had a number of power meters which built up over time, and a number of moves or actions they could perform depending upon where their meater was. Enemies worked the same way, so for quick enemies, it was sometimes better to wait, and then slam them with a more devastating attack, or to use a number of quick attacks. Sinse actions also included dodging, changing party order, healing, parrying etc, this made for a very in depth set of mechanics. I also absolutely agree on the audio rpg front. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Actually Mario RPG just got released over there, I believe last year. It was sort of celebrated amongst the gamers community when it came out in europe on the virtual console. However, as good as Mario RPG is, even if you had sighted assistance to play it, I wouldn't say its worth getting a Wii just to play. Yeah, I've heard good things about Grandia. Hopefully one of these days I'll have a chance to check it out. -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:31 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hints in KoL would be good indeed, and something I'd much prefer to looking up puzle solutions online. As for graphical rpgs, well sadly Marrio rpg never had a release over here, so I never had chance to encounter the game. I have read a script however and agree on the rather surprising character depth. The mechanics of the Grandia games always amazed me for their symplicity, and yet how flexible they were. Each character had a number of power meters which built up over time, and a number of moves or actions they could perform depending upon where their meater was. Enemies worked the same way, so for quick enemies, it was sometimes better to wait, and then slam them with a more devastating attack, or to use a number of quick attacks. Sinse actions also included dodging, changing party order, healing, parrying etc, this made for a very in depth set of mechanics. I also absolutely agree on the audio rpg front. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Yep, and there's also been a Ds port i believe, though I must confess sinse the Gba became more out of fashion and things got visually impossible for me again, I haven't really taken as much notice of main stream game releases. Generally, I don't get sited assitance in games, both because I live on my own, and because i've always felt it was a bit too much to ask someone to sit there and read an entire game and explain a combat system while I made decisions. I've watched my friends play rpgs, and they've read the text, rather the same way I've watched subtitled anime, but they've handled the actual game itself. I only know of game mechanics from long discussions with my brother. generally, in terms of graphical games, I play things which I can get through with a combination of my vision and a faq. These have included some fairly complex 2D things (particularly the Metroid and Mega man series), pluss a few 3D beat em ups, but no honest to goodness rpgs. currently, I haven't yet decided whether to get a Wii or Ps3. The Ps3 is better for beat em ups, but the Wii has the virtual console which includes many fun games (especially Mega man 9). on the other hand, my Snes and Mega drive stil work very well and i play them often, so much of the 16 bit stuff on the virtual console it just wouldn't be worth me buying. In fact I bought several games, including streets of rage 3 and some Turrican titles from E-bay just last week. But before this turns into a low vision gaming discussion I'll stop. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Actually Mario RPG just got released over there, I believe last year. It was sort of celebrated amongst the gamers community when it came out in europe on the virtual console. However, as good as Mario RPG is, even if you had sighted assistance to play it, I wouldn't say its worth getting a Wii just to play. Yeah, I've heard good things about Grandia. Hopefully one of these days I'll have a chance to check it out. -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:31 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hints in KoL would be good indeed, and something I'd much prefer to looking up puzle solutions online. As for graphical rpgs, well sadly Marrio rpg never had a release over here, so I never had chance to encounter the game. I have read a script however and agree on the rather surprising character depth. The mechanics of the Grandia games always amazed me for their symplicity, and yet how flexible they were. Each character had a number of power meters which built up over time, and a number of moves or actions they could perform depending upon where their meater was. Enemies worked the same way, so for quick enemies, it was sometimes better to wait, and then slam them with a more devastating attack, or to use a number of quick attacks. Sinse actions also included dodging, changing party order, healing, parrying etc, this made for a very in depth set of mechanics. I also absolutely agree on the audio rpg front. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Ten times to access the rest? Holy crap that's hard to imagine, I had enough troubles even the first time through and I doubt the enemies get any easier. This does raise the question though of would the reward be worth it after the grinding. Ron - Original Message - From: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye The problem with 90% of the tarn content is you have to go through the city multiple times to get anywhere. I believe its 10 runs before you can even access the lower levels of the city, which is plain ridiculous if you ask me. There's even content up to 15 runs, which I doubt I'll ever make. Its kind of like the ice shield you get from the ice troll, sadly more for the hardcore grinders than those of us looking for a good adventure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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If it's going to take so long to get through I'm not sure if I'll work on it immediately. Once the lower levels are accessed do you still need to clear the 17 or so buildings? Ron - Original Message - From: Casey Mathews csm...@cfl.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye You need to get all four shards from the lower level... Casey Mathews Web Friendly Help | Demystifying Tech www.WebFriendlyHelp.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'm right with you Ron. As much as I love Sryth I don't often have the patience for a lot of this new stuff. I only go after the Ice Shield because it's the best shield you can get without having to pay your weight in Adventurer Tokens. But I barely managed to open up the lower level of Tarn and get the four shards of the amulet. It's just lucky that the reward for completing that adventure was worthwhile. I wouldn't have done it otherwise. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. From: blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:53:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Ten times to access the rest? Holy crap that's hard to imagine, I had enough troubles even the first time through and I doubt the enemies get any easier. This does raise the question though of would the reward be worth it after the grinding. Ron - Original Message - From: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye The problem with 90% of the tarn content is you have to go through the city multiple times to get anywhere. I believe its 10 runs before you can even access the lower levels of the city, which is plain ridiculous if you ask me. There's even content up to 15 runs, which I doubt I'll ever make. Its kind of like the ice shield you get from the ice troll, sadly more for the hardcore grinders than those of us looking for a good adventure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Yeah, that is a lot of work. Personally, I am a bit sick and tired of some of these grinding matches and wish Sryth would go back to actual adventures instead of the various areas where you have to grind away multiple times to get anything you want. Sheesh, I've been trying for a month to get my hands on the Creyn Blade, and every time I make my way through the semitary, slay Lord Creyn, the dang blasted sword isn't there. I'm half willing to complain to the gm about this, because after I play the area four or five times I should have found the sword by now. How many frickin' times do I have to run through the semitary to get it? Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi Ten times to access the rest? Holy crap that's hard to imagine, I had enough troubles even the first time through and I doubt the enemies get any easier. This does raise the question though of would the reward be worth it after the grinding. Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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To complete a run through tarn you don't actually have to clear all the buildings, you just have to get the 3 copper keys, the gear and spin the wheel. All clearing the buildings does is increase the xp reward at the end. Provided I can work up some motivation, I'd just do short runs through tarn without maxing the xp reward. But for 10 even short runs through tarn, that content better have some amazing plot behind it, not just some xp, gold and tokens and maybe another random item or loose end. If sryth had anymore loose ends it'd straight come unravelled. -- From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:53 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Ten times to access the rest? Holy crap that's hard to imagine, I had enough troubles even the first time through and I doubt the enemies get any easier. This does raise the question though of would the reward be worth it after the grinding. Ron - Original Message - From: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye The problem with 90% of the tarn content is you have to go through the city multiple times to get anywhere. I believe its 10 runs before you can even access the lower levels of the city, which is plain ridiculous if you ask me. There's even content up to 15 runs, which I doubt I'll ever make. Its kind of like the ice shield you get from the ice troll, sadly more for the hardcore grinders than those of us looking for a good adventure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Sadly the crane blade is strictly random. I think it was proven in the forums that the gold total you get from the tomb has to be higher than 250 for the blade to show up. Worst part is its not even that great of a weapon. Helps a little with that scennario but I just never found much use for it. And I know exactly where you're coming from. Back before the GM started catering to people who want to grind their skills, powers and gold, sryth used to be so much more epic. I think it all started with the dungeon system, which still bugs me to this day. For example, I don't know how many sryth players on this list will remember this, but back before the dungeon system ever went in, westwold was 10 times more awesome. The goblin cave played more like a gamebook, where each room was different, and it really felt like you were moving through a cave on an adventure rather than just moving through a coordinate grid. I can see why the GM would have put in the dungeon system, it would make adventures easier to put out I'm sure. He's probably got a basic engine built where he can just make the coordinate grid, put in the passages and put events where he wants them. That I can deal with. But the way content is going lately where everything's gone to the grindstone I'm almost ready to give up on the game. Now its all about making donations or limited of time rewards or having to spend days on end grinding through a scennario just to see some new content. Sryth just isn't the game it used to be, and I doubt any amount of complaining or feedback to the GM would change that given how many people seem to like the replayables and the ability to grind skills, even if they are capped. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:45 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi, Yeah, that is a lot of work. Personally, I am a bit sick and tired of some of these grinding matches and wish Sryth would go back to actual adventures instead of the various areas where you have to grind away multiple times to get anything you want. Sheesh, I've been trying for a month to get my hands on the Creyn Blade, and every time I make my way through the semitary, slay Lord Creyn, the dang blasted sword isn't there. I'm half willing to complain to the gm about this, because after I play the area four or five times I should have found the sword by now. How many frickin' times do I have to run through the semitary to get it? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan I've been out of the Sryth loop so to speak and was wondering where the ice shield can be found? I know I've seen the cave/lair before but was busy doing something else at the time. Thanks Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I'm right with you Ron. As much as I love Sryth I don't often have the patience for a lot of this new stuff. I only go after the Ice Shield because it's the best shield you can get without having to pay your weight in Adventurer Tokens. But I barely managed to open up the lower level of Tarn and get the four shards of the amulet. It's just lucky that the reward for completing that adventure was worthwhile. I wouldn't have done it otherwise. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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You have to beat the crimson helmed rider 7 times in a row without missing even once. He then shows you the location of the lair. If you think tarn's bad though, to get the ice shield you have to beat the ice troll a grand total of 36 times, and then put a lot of xp into the shield to level it up to the point where it's actually powerful. I've also heard you ocasionally have to toss xp into it since it melts after battle. -- From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:02 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Bryan I've been out of the Sryth loop so to speak and was wondering where the ice shield can be found? I know I've seen the cave/lair before but was busy doing something else at the time. Thanks Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I'm right with you Ron. As much as I love Sryth I don't often have the patience for a lot of this new stuff. I only go after the Ice Shield because it's the best shield you can get without having to pay your weight in Adventurer Tokens. But I barely managed to open up the lower level of Tarn and get the four shards of the amulet. It's just lucky that the reward for completing that adventure was worthwhile. I wouldn't have done it otherwise. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Okay actually I just stumbled upon it so no worries. Now to give it a go I suppose. - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Bryan I've been out of the Sryth loop so to speak and was wondering where the ice shield can be found? I know I've seen the cave/lair before but was busy doing something else at the time. Thanks Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I'm right with you Ron. As much as I love Sryth I don't often have the patience for a lot of this new stuff. I only go after the Ice Shield because it's the best shield you can get without having to pay your weight in Adventurer Tokens. But I barely managed to open up the lower level of Tarn and get the four shards of the amulet. It's just lucky that the reward for completing that adventure was worthwhile. I wouldn't have done it otherwise. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shadow Dragon, Yes, I know. The first time you get 250 gold coins from Lord Creyn's tomb you will get the Creyn Blade. The problem is that the odds are very low that it will randomly select the 250 gold coins required to get the Creyn Blade. One time, with an older character, i got it the first try. However, that's the only time i found the sword at all. Most of the time I don't get much of a reward for hacking and slashing my way through their. The only reason I'm doing so now is to get some experience points for various powers. Anyway, I do remember what Sryth was like way back when, and it was, in my opinion, so much better. My disappointment with the current way Sryth is going is one of the reasons I am currently working on a gamebook style adventure system on my own. It is not anything to speak of yet, but it is being written in c++, currently runs on Linux, but when it gets further along I plan to port it to Windows. It isn't Sryth, but it is something like what Sryth use to be way back when. Smile. Shadow Dragon wrote: Sadly the crane blade is strictly random. I think it was proven in the forums that the gold total you get from the tomb has to be higher than 250 for the blade to show up. Worst part is its not even that great of a weapon. Helps a little with that scennario but I just never found much use for it. And I know exactly where you're coming from. Back before the GM started catering to people who want to grind their skills, powers and gold, sryth used to be so much more epic. I think it all started with the dungeon system, which still bugs me to this day. For example, I don't know how many sryth players on this list will remember this, but back before the dungeon system ever went in, westwold was 10 times more awesome. The goblin cave played more like a gamebook, where each room was different, and it really felt like you were moving through a cave on an adventure rather than just moving through a coordinate grid. I can see why the GM would have put in the dungeon system, it would make adventures easier to put out I'm sure. He's probably got a basic engine built where he can just make the coordinate grid, put in the passages and put events where he wants them. That I can deal with. But the way content is going lately where everything's gone to the grindstone I'm almost ready to give up on the game. Now its all about making donations or limited of time rewards or having to spend days on end grinding through a scennario just to see some new content. Sryth just isn't the game it used to be, and I doubt any amount of complaining or feedback to the GM would change that given how many people seem to like the replayables and the ability to grind skills, even if they are capped. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Ok, now that does sound like it really sucks. Having to defeat the ice troll 36 times to get the ice shield seriously bites. The gm can eat my shorts before I'll do that. Cheers. Shadow Dragon wrote: You have to beat the crimson helmed rider 7 times in a row without missing even once. He then shows you the location of the lair. If you think tarn's bad though, to get the ice shield you have to beat the ice troll a grand total of 36 times, and then put a lot of xp into the shield to level it up to the point where it's actually powerful. I've also heard you ocasionally have to toss xp into it since it melts after battle. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I fully agree, and actually i've been rather sad over what has happened to Sryth. From it's original intent of playing like a gamebook, it's now far closer to the standard grindable rpg, just from all of those people who want to be on the top of the list with big stats. Also, I do feel the Adventurer tocan system, which originally was just a nice way to contribute something extra to the game, has got a bit extreme, sinse now there are even adventures you can't get to without contributing, - and the disparity betwene the equipment you can buy with adventurer tocans and what you can buy without them is just too great. I do remember the original westwold, and fully agree with you about the changes. That's one reason these days I'm far more interested in online gamebooks than in online rpg games, sinse it seems the majority of players wish simply to competatively grind for status, if not actual pvp, and games are set up to cater to this. Even Sryth which began as something different is rapidly falling into this trap. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Sadly the crane blade is strictly random. I think it was proven in the forums that the gold total you get from the tomb has to be higher than 250 for the blade to show up. Worst part is its not even that great of a weapon. Helps a little with that scennario but I just never found much use for it. And I know exactly where you're coming from. Back before the GM started catering to people who want to grind their skills, powers and gold, sryth used to be so much more epic. I think it all started with the dungeon system, which still bugs me to this day. For example, I don't know how many sryth players on this list will remember this, but back before the dungeon system ever went in, westwold was 10 times more awesome. The goblin cave played more like a gamebook, where each room was different, and it really felt like you were moving through a cave on an adventure rather than just moving through a coordinate grid. I can see why the GM would have put in the dungeon system, it would make adventures easier to put out I'm sure. He's probably got a basic engine built where he can just make the coordinate grid, put in the passages and put events where he wants them. That I can deal with. But the way content is going lately where everything's gone to the grindstone I'm almost ready to give up on the game. Now its all about making donations or limited of time rewards or having to spend days on end grinding through a scennario just to see some new content. Sryth just isn't the game it used to be, and I doubt any amount of complaining or feedback to the GM would change that given how many people seem to like the replayables and the ability to grind skills, even if they are capped. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:45 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi, Yeah, that is a lot of work. Personally, I am a bit sick and tired of some of these grinding matches and wish Sryth would go back to actual adventures instead of the various areas where you have to grind away multiple times to get anything you want. Sheesh, I've been trying for a month to get my hands on the Creyn Blade, and every time I make my way through the semitary, slay Lord Creyn, the dang blasted sword isn't there. I'm half willing to complain to the gm about this, because after I play the area four or five times I should have found the sword by now. How many frickin' times do I have to run through the semitary to get it? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'll be looking forward to seeing that system Tom. Interestingly enough, I've been beta testing a certain project which should begin to alleviate this situation as well. It's coming out this week, and I'll be preparing an audio tutorial for it soon. Lets just say if you like the old Sryth style dungeons where each room is different, you should enjoy this. I'm also hopeful this is something which will be added to over time. As I said, it's due out this week (which is why I'm saying this now), so watch this space. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I couldn't agree more. In fact what determines the Creyne Blade is the amount of gold inside the sarcofagus. If it's more than 250 upi ;; find it. But I totally agree. I liked the game when it was all about actual adventures. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi, Yeah, that is a lot of work. Personally, I am a bit sick and tired of some of these grinding matches and wish Sryth would go back to actual adventures instead of the various areas where you have to grind away multiple times to get anything you want. Sheesh, I've been trying for a month to get my hands on the Creyn Blade, and every time I make my way through the semitary, slay Lord Creyn, the dang blasted sword isn't there. I'm half willing to complain to the gm about this, because after I play the area four or five times I should have found the sword by now. How many frickin' times do I have to run through the semitary to get it? Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Hi Ten times to access the rest? Holy crap that's hard to imagine, I had enough troubles even the first time through and I doubt the enemies get any easier. This does raise the question though of would the reward be worth it after the grinding. Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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That's the Ice Troll's cave in Southfoot. YOu have to have visited the Crimson Helmed Rider seven times in a row to find it. THen you have to travel to the villageof Moonpath in Southfoot. You need to complete that dungeon 36 times to get the shield. It's a lot of trouble but the only other option is to spend almost 400 Adventurer Tokens to get the Coiled Serpent Shield from Tallys' Trading Post. Youdo ned to level the shield up with EXP to get its maximum benefits but I still like it a lot. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Bryan I've been out of the Sryth loop so to speak and was wondering where the ice shield can be found? I know I've seen the cave/lair before but was busy doing something else at the time. Thanks Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I'm right with you Ron. As much as I love Sryth I don't often have the patience for a lot of this new stuff. I only go after the Ice Shield because it's the best shield you can get without having to pay your weight in Adventurer Tokens. But I barely managed to open up the lower level of Tarn and get the four shards of the amulet. It's just lucky that the reward for completing that adventure was worthwhile. I wouldn't have done it otherwise. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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That doesn't happen very often though I've noticed. Gabba gabba hey! - Original Message - From: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye You have to beat the crimson helmed rider 7 times in a row without missing even once. He then shows you the location of the lair. If you think tarn's bad though, to get the ice shield you have to beat the ice troll a grand total of 36 times, and then put a lot of xp into the shield to level it up to the point where it's actually powerful. I've also heard you ocasionally have to toss xp into it since it melts after battle. -- From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:02 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Bryan I've been out of the Sryth loop so to speak and was wondering where the ice shield can be found? I know I've seen the cave/lair before but was busy doing something else at the time. Thanks Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I'm right with you Ron. As much as I love Sryth I don't often have the patience for a lot of this new stuff. I only go after the Ice Shield because it's the best shield you can get without having to pay your weight in Adventurer Tokens. But I barely managed to open up the lower level of Tarn and get the four shards of the amulet. It's just lucky that the reward for completing that adventure was worthwhile. I wouldn't have done it otherwise. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan, Like many here it was the number of actual adventures that helped me decide to pay for a guild subscription. Some of them are quite good, interesting, and Sryth is beginning to lose that with the grinding content. It is almost as bad as the online RPG games that obsess over player verses player style play, and don't have much of anything else to speak of. Bryan Peterson wrote: I couldn't agree more. In fact what determines the Creyne Blade is the amount of gold inside the sarcofagus. If it's more than 250 upi ;; find it. But I totally agree. I liked the game when it was all about actual adventures. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, In the immortal words of Shaggy, zoiks! Either way that is a lot for a shield, but i know what you mean. Adventurer tokans are too rare to spend them all on a good shield, and the alternative is to play the Ice Troll Layer 36 times to get something as good as it. Given the choice I'd pick the 36 runs through theIce Troll Layer too. Bryan Peterson wrote: That's the Ice Troll's cave in Southfoot. YOu have to have visited the Crimson Helmed Rider seven times in a row to find it. THen you have to travel to the villageof Moonpath in Southfoot. You need to complete that dungeon 36 times to get the shield. It's a lot of trouble but the only other option is to spend almost 400 Adventurer Tokens to get the Coiled Serpent Shield from Tallys' Trading Post. Youdo ned to level the shield up with EXP to get its maximum benefits but I still like it a lot. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
I agree. THe only things keeping me in Sryth are A. It's the only remotely accessible such game that actually has any substance to it and B. when new signgle-player adventures do come out they still manage to keep me interested. And the GM has been extremely accomodating with regard to us blind folks. I haven't known many other such folks who'd do that. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:01:29 -0400 From: thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Bryan, Like many here it was the number of actual adventures that helped me decide to pay for a guild subscription. Some of them are quite good, interesting, and Sryth is beginning to lose that with the grinding content. It is almost as bad as the online RPG games that obsess over player verses player style play, and don't have much of anything else to speak of. Bryan Peterson wrote: I couldn't agree more. In fact what determines the Creyne Blade is the amount of gold inside the sarcofagus. If it's more than 250 upi ;; find it. But I totally agree. I liked the game when it was all about actual adventures. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
I have to disagree, Kingdom of Loathing has very strong substance to it. Its got solid backing mechanics, amusing quest lines, a good battle system, and quite a bit of replayability. But I will agree that sryth is the only serious RPG to date that has much to it. Most other games either have a good storyline or a good battle system, not both. Its rather saddening. -- From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:45 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye I agree. THe only things keeping me in Sryth are A. It's the only remotely accessible such game that actually has any substance to it and B. when new signgle-player adventures do come out they still manage to keep me interested. And the GM has been extremely accomodating with regard to us blind folks. I haven't known many other such folks who'd do that. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:01:29 -0400 From: thomasward1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi Bryan, Like many here it was the number of actual adventures that helped me decide to pay for a guild subscription. Some of them are quite good, interesting, and Sryth is beginning to lose that with the grinding content. It is almost as bad as the online RPG games that obsess over player verses player style play, and don't have much of anything else to speak of. Bryan Peterson wrote: I couldn't agree more. In fact what determines the Creyne Blade is the amount of gold inside the sarcofagus. If it's more than 250 upi ;; find it. But I totally agree. I liked the game when it was all about actual adventures. Gabba gabba hey! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
You need to get all four shards from the lower level... Casey Mathews Web Friendly Help | Demystifying Tech www.WebFriendlyHelp.com -- From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:33 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi all I know there are a few players here, in the city of Tarn you were supposed to find some artifact. I'm curious as to what it was? I've made it through completely once but think I must have missed it. Any sense for direction as to what it is and who I need to see in Trithack would be helpful. I really hope I won't have to go through it again to find the item. Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
Hi all I know there are a few players here, in the city of Tarn you were supposed to find some artifact. I'm curious as to what it was? I've made it through completely once but think I must have missed it. Any sense for direction as to what it is and who I need to see in Trithack would be helpful. I really hope I won't have to go through it again to find the item. Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye
The problem with 90% of the tarn content is you have to go through the city multiple times to get anywhere. I believe its 10 runs before you can even access the lower levels of the city, which is plain ridiculous if you ask me. There's even content up to 15 runs, which I doubt I'll ever make. Its kind of like the ice shield you get from the ice troll, sadly more for the hardcore grinders than those of us looking for a good adventure. -- From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 3:33 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth question the eye Hi all I know there are a few players here, in the city of Tarn you were supposed to find some artifact. I'm curious as to what it was? I've made it through completely once but think I must have missed it. Any sense for direction as to what it is and who I need to see in Trithack would be helpful. I really hope I won't have to go through it again to find the item. Ron --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
