Re: RES: [gentoo-user] Portage Error

2003-11-19 Thread Norberto Bensa
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 No luck yet. Haven't seen any -MERGING* files, and rysnc no go.


What about fix-db?

/usr/lib/portage/bin/fix-db.py

Regards,
Norberto


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Re: [gentoo-user] Ping errors

2003-11-19 Thread Selentek 24331-03
Rebuild kernel with:

CONFIG_FILTER=y

It's used for attack filter to any socket, used by the program.

On 16:07 Wed 19 Nov , Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 14:24, Thomas Smith wrote:
  I've had Gentoo setup and running on a test server for about a month now
  and didn't notice any of these errors until I configured Nagios--it
  immediately started reporting WARNINGs regarding this error.. I've
  googled for this problem and every body seems to agree that it's an
  issue with the Kernel but no one has offered a solution. The error I get
  is:
 
  WARNING: failed to install socket filter
 
  : Protocol not available
 
  This error occurs when PINGing /any/ host. It doesn't happen with every
  ping--that is, it occurs after every few responses. It doesn't seem to
  be causing any other functionality problems.
 
 I've set up a little Gentoo server at work that I believe experiences exactly 
 the same thing. I'll confirm tomorrow, but for the time being I'll list some 
 details of how it's configured network-wise.
 
 * one interface with multiple IPs
 * IP fowarding enabled
 * TCP packets with destination of port 80 redirected to localhost
 * connection tracking for everything the kernel supports
 * traffic shaping for both incoming and outgoing traffic
 
 That's all that I can remember at the moment. If you could supply the same 
 thing, we can use the similarities to hopefully track the source of the 
 problem down.
 
 Jason
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] rebuild all

2003-11-19 Thread Oliver Lange
Jason Stubbs wrote:
get the same thing. I have been toying with programming since I was 8, yet 
I've never done any sort of Linux-based development as yet (unless fixing a 
Yeah, my story (ok i started at the age of 14), but i'm still new to
Linux, even if i got a firewall-gateway under my desk since a couple
of years... i know how to setup my apache-php-mysql server, but things
like copying files (or using the shell power at all) are still a
riddle for me.. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem installing binaries from grp-installation

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 15:48, Andreas Schmitzer wrote:
 hello,

 i installed my gentoo system from the two Live-CD´s .  while installing,
 all packages where copied to my hard disc.
 now i try to install a package  with  emerge -k  package  and
 nevertheless emerge tries to connect to web sites.
 how can i stop this and force emerge to look only on my hard disc. as far
 as i know the directories are set correctly.

Once you've done emerge sync the game's pretty much over. The problem is 
that half the packages you copied are now more than likely outdated and 
portage always tries to install the latest available that matches your 
stability requirements. You should be able to jump a through hoops to get it 
to use your packages though. Look at the following example.

bash-2.05b# emerge -p abiword

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] dev-python/pyxml-0.8.3
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libglade-2.0.1
[ebuild  N] app-text/aspell-0.50.4.1
[ebuild  N] app-dicts/aspell-en-0.51.0
[ebuild  N] app-text/enchant-1.1.1
[ebuild  N] app-text/wv-1.0.0
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/fribidi-0.10.4
[ebuild  N] app-office/abiword-2.0.1

bash-2.05b# ls /usr/portage/packages/All/pyxml-*
/usr/portage/packages/All/pyxml-0.8.2.tbz2
bash-2.05b# emerge --oneshot -k =dev-python/pyxml-0.8.2
[...]
bash-2.05b# ls /usr/portage/packages/All/libglade-*
/usr/portage/packages/All/libglade-2.0.1.tbz2
bash-2.05b# emerge --oneshot -k libglade
[...]
bash-2.05b# ls /usr/portage/packages/All/aspell-*
/usr/portage/packages/All/aspell-0.50.4.tbz2
bash-2.05b# emerge --oneshot -k =app-text/aspell-0.50.4
[...]
[...]
bash-2.05b# ls /usr/portage/packages/All/abiword-*
/usr/portage/packages/All/abiword-2.0.1.tbz2
bash-2.05b# emerge -k abiword

Sounds like a nightmare right? If you really don't want to update any 
packages, you could rm -rf /usr/portage and then extract the snapshot from 
your installation CD again. Just remember, the longer you wait to update the 
system the more updates there will be.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ping errors

2003-11-19 Thread Thomas Smith
Jason Stubbs wrote:

On Wednesday 19 November 2003 14:24, Thomas Smith wrote:
 

I've had Gentoo setup and running on a test server for about a month now
and didn't notice any of these errors until I configured Nagios--it
immediately started reporting WARNINGs regarding this error.. I've
googled for this problem and every body seems to agree that it's an
issue with the Kernel but no one has offered a solution. The error I get
is:
WARNING: failed to install socket filter

: Protocol not available

This error occurs when PINGing /any/ host. It doesn't happen with every
ping--that is, it occurs after every few responses. It doesn't seem to
be causing any other functionality problems.
   

I've set up a little Gentoo server at work that I believe experiences exactly 
the same thing. I'll confirm tomorrow, but for the time being I'll list some 
details of how it's configured network-wise.

* one interface with multiple IPs
* IP fowarding enabled
* TCP packets with destination of port 80 redirected to localhost
* connection tracking for everything the kernel supports
* traffic shaping for both incoming and outgoing traffic
That's all that I can remember at the moment. If you could supply the same 
thing, we can use the similarities to hopefully track the source of the 
problem down.

Well, it's currently a pretty basic setup--no packet filtering, no 
traffic shaping. It does have two interfaces, though--one unroutable, 
the other live. (It's stricly a test server to plan our migration from 
Red Hat to Gentoo.)

I'm going to investigate the previous post regarding CONFIG_FILTER=y. 
I'm not quite sure what the poster meant by It's used for attack filter 
to any socket, used by the program. or how this option will affect 
other aspects of the server. If you or anyone can elaborate on this 
option please do so.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ping errors

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 16:02, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
 On 16:07 Wed 19 Nov , Jason Stubbs wrote:
  On Wednesday 19 November 2003 14:24, Thomas Smith wrote:
   I've had Gentoo setup and running on a test server for about a month
   now and didn't notice any of these errors until I configured Nagios--it
   immediately started reporting WARNINGs regarding this error.. I've
   googled for this problem and every body seems to agree that it's an
   issue with the Kernel but no one has offered a solution. The error I
   get is:
  
   WARNING: failed to install socket filter
  
   : Protocol not available
  
   This error occurs when PINGing /any/ host. It doesn't happen with every
   ping--that is, it occurs after every few responses. It doesn't seem to
   be causing any other functionality problems.
 
  I've set up a little Gentoo server at work that I believe experiences
  exactly the same thing. I'll confirm tomorrow, but for the time being
  I'll list some details of how it's configured network-wise.
 
  * one interface with multiple IPs
  * IP fowarding enabled
  * TCP packets with destination of port 80 redirected to localhost
  * connection tracking for everything the kernel supports
  * traffic shaping for both incoming and outgoing traffic
 
  That's all that I can remember at the moment. If you could supply the
  same thing, we can use the similarities to hopefully track the source of
  the problem down.

 Rebuild kernel with:

 CONFIG_FILTER=y

 It's used for attack filter to any socket, used by the program.

What is the name of that kernel option? I'm running 2.6 and don't have that 
defined in my .config file and cannot find it in any of the Kconfig files.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ping errors

2003-11-19 Thread Selentek 24331-03
Sorry,
s/attack/attach/

On 00:33 Wed 19 Nov , Thomas Smith wrote:
 Jason Stubbs wrote:
 
 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 14:24, Thomas Smith wrote:
  
 
 I've had Gentoo setup and running on a test server for about a month now
 and didn't notice any of these errors until I configured Nagios--it
 immediately started reporting WARNINGs regarding this error.. I've
 googled for this problem and every body seems to agree that it's an
 issue with the Kernel but no one has offered a solution. The error I get
 is:
 
 WARNING: failed to install socket filter
 
 : Protocol not available
 
 This error occurs when PINGing /any/ host. It doesn't happen with every
 ping--that is, it occurs after every few responses. It doesn't seem to
 be causing any other functionality problems.

 
 
 I've set up a little Gentoo server at work that I believe experiences 
 exactly the same thing. I'll confirm tomorrow, but for the time being I'll 
 list some details of how it's configured network-wise.
 
 * one interface with multiple IPs
 * IP fowarding enabled
 * TCP packets with destination of port 80 redirected to localhost
 * connection tracking for everything the kernel supports
 * traffic shaping for both incoming and outgoing traffic
 
 That's all that I can remember at the moment. If you could supply the same 
 thing, we can use the similarities to hopefully track the source of the 
 problem down.
 
 Well, it's currently a pretty basic setup--no packet filtering, no 
 traffic shaping. It does have two interfaces, though--one unroutable, 
 the other live. (It's stricly a test server to plan our migration from 
 Red Hat to Gentoo.)
 
 I'm going to investigate the previous post regarding CONFIG_FILTER=y. 
 I'm not quite sure what the poster meant by It's used for attack filter 
 to any socket, used by the program. or how this option will affect 
 other aspects of the server. If you or anyone can elaborate on this 
 option please do so.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ping errors

2003-11-19 Thread Selentek 24331-03
my kernel is 2.4.20-gentoo-r8,
I don't know where is this option is 2.6,
but the mesage from ping without with option was: WARNING: failed to install socket 
filter.

On 16:35 Wed 19 Nov , Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 16:02, Selentek 24331-03 wrote:
  On 16:07 Wed 19 Nov , Jason Stubbs wrote:
   On Wednesday 19 November 2003 14:24, Thomas Smith wrote:
I've had Gentoo setup and running on a test server for about a month
now and didn't notice any of these errors until I configured Nagios--it
immediately started reporting WARNINGs regarding this error.. I've
googled for this problem and every body seems to agree that it's an
issue with the Kernel but no one has offered a solution. The error I
get is:
   
WARNING: failed to install socket filter
   
: Protocol not available
   
This error occurs when PINGing /any/ host. It doesn't happen with every
ping--that is, it occurs after every few responses. It doesn't seem to
be causing any other functionality problems.
  
   I've set up a little Gentoo server at work that I believe experiences
   exactly the same thing. I'll confirm tomorrow, but for the time being
   I'll list some details of how it's configured network-wise.
  
   * one interface with multiple IPs
   * IP fowarding enabled
   * TCP packets with destination of port 80 redirected to localhost
   * connection tracking for everything the kernel supports
   * traffic shaping for both incoming and outgoing traffic
  
   That's all that I can remember at the moment. If you could supply the
   same thing, we can use the similarities to hopefully track the source of
   the problem down.
 
  Rebuild kernel with:
 
  CONFIG_FILTER=y
 
  It's used for attack filter to any socket, used by the program.
 
 What is the name of that kernel option? I'm running 2.6 and don't have that 
 defined in my .config file and cannot find it in any of the Kconfig files.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Font problems

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 13:47, Zarick Lau wrote:
 I can sure that ttmkfdir is nothing to do with fontconfig, ttmkfdir is
 just yet another alternative for mkfontdir / mkfontscale.
 i.e. create fonts.dir for X server (or X font server)

 anyway seems that you finally make.

 If you can figure out what's happen inside qt / kde in your previous
 problem, share with me, ok?

Hmmm, I was thinking that it was because I hadn't run some magic command on 
the appropriate directories. I thought that magic command was fontconfig, but 
now I can't seem to find it. Is it fc-cache? 

Let me ask a more general question:
If I want a fresh install of X to make use fonts I have placed 
in /usr/local/share/fonts via xft, how do I do it?

Whatever step I missed in the answer will be the reason why I couldn't get 
fonts to work correctly before. I doubt that it was a qt3 issue at all.

Regards,
Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ping errors

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 16:33, Thomas Smith wrote:
 I'm going to investigate the previous post regarding CONFIG_FILTER=y.
 I'm not quite sure what the poster meant by It's used for attack filter
 to any socket, used by the program.

read attack as attach

Jason

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[gentoo-user] Xsession

2003-11-19 Thread Ted Ozolins
When I mess up I realy do a great job of it. Somehow I've managed to 
blank the contents of Xsession. I could really use a copy. Anyone?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xsession

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 17:09, Ted Ozolins wrote:
 When I mess up I realy do a great job of it. Somehow I've managed to
 blank the contents of Xsession. I could really use a copy. Anyone?

/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession attached.

Jason


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Re: [gentoo-user] Xsession

2003-11-19 Thread Peter Eis
etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
etc/X11/Sessions/Xsession
HTH,
Peter
Ted Ozolins wrote:

When I mess up I realy do a great job of it. Somehow I've managed to 
blank the contents of Xsession. I could really use a copy. Anyone?




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Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing problems

2003-11-19 Thread Harlan
Yes I did.  I just checked, I have version 1.4.1.  

Thanks for the suggestion.

Harlan...

On Wednesday 19 November 2003 01:01 am, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 Le 11/18/03 Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:


 Just one more idea: have you emerged hpijs as needed?

  Thank you for your reply.
 
  I tried -L /dev/lp0 and -L file:/dev/lp0
 
  Still no joy.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Harlan...
 
  On Monday 17 November 2003 11:24 am, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
  Le 11/16/03 Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:
   Here is what I have tried:
  
   bash-2.05b# grep 420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/*
   /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-DeskJet_420C.xml:printer
   id=printer/HP-DeskJet_420C
   /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-DeskJet_420C.xml:
   modelDeskJet 420C/model
  
   bash-2.05b# grep HP-DeskJet_420C
   /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/*
   /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/cdj500.xml:
   idprinter/HP-DeskJet_420C/id!-- HP DeskJet 420C --
   /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/hpijs.xml:
   idprinter/HP-DeskJet_420C/id!-- HP DeskJet 420C --
  
   bash-2.05b# foomatic-configure -s cups -p HP-DeskJet_420C -c
   file:/dev/lp0 -n HP420C -d hpijs
   lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused
   Could not set up/change the queue HP420C!
 
  From the foomatic-configure FM it seems that the c option is for a
   remote printer (connect), and L would be the printer's address. Can
  you try it with L?
  cheers,


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[gentoo-user] filesystem mounted read only during emerge process

2003-11-19 Thread Ian Truelsen
Okay, this one is a stumper.

Whenever I try to emerge any package that tries to go through the
compile part of a build (checking for . . .) it hangs at that point. It
is not necessarily the same point, but it is always at the same stage of
the build process. Those ebuilds that do not go through this, like
man-pages, do not suffer this fate.

Here is the weird part though: after the process has hung, and very
likely the cause of the hang, my root filesystem is mounted read only. I
can't su, or run any process that needs to write to the file system. I
can't even reboot properly because it complains about not being able to
create a lockfile.

I have tried turning off ccache and distcc even going down to -O2 from
-O3 -pipe in case that was the problem but to no avail.

Anyone who can give me a hint on what to check for will earn a seat at
the head table with their favourite deity.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Hall,

Thanks for your advice.

At 12:07 PM 11/18/2003, you wrote:

# make clean dep
# make bzImage modules
# make modules_install
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-gentoo-r8
I suppose arch/i386/boot/bzImage will be created after make 
modules_install


No, make bzImage actually creates that file. The instructions have 
seemingly always been written this way and they've stuck. It's not 
really important either way.
Noted with thanks

# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/video/nvidia.o
(should be enough to protect r7's nvidia modules, but it would be 
better to
# emerge nvidia-kernel

What is nvidia-kernel?
3. optional: if you use nvidia-kernel

Do you use an nVidia video card ?? If not, disregard that step. If you 
do, here's a very brief description: 
http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?nvidia-kernel-1.0.4496-r4. You may 
also want nvidia-glx too. Read about it here, 
http://packages.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?nvidia-glx-1.0.4496-r1. They 
simply provide optimized performance of your video card under X-Windows.
I am running Maxi Gamer Phoenix card (featuring Voodoo Banshee, 2D/3D 
Graphics Card, 16MB memory).  I am not quite sure whether it is a nVidia 
video card.  How to check it?

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi mathieu,

Thanks for your advice.

- snip -
 

1. emerge the new kernel, configure and build:
# emerge gentoo-sources
# cd /usr/src
# rm -f linux
# ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux
# cp linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/.config linux
 

Is it .config a hidden file under linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7/
   

yes. it's created by make menuconfig (or config / oldconfig / config).
I've never understood why it's hidden, I would have called it kernel.config.
There is also a live version that you can find in /proc/config but maybe 
you've got to compile something in kernel (or it's only for 2.6, I don't 
remember)

 

Noted with thanks

2. optinal: if you use alsa-driver
# cd /lib/modules
# touch 2.4.20-gentoo-r7/kernel/sound
(should be enough to protect r7's alsa modules, but it would be better to
backup them)
# emerge alsa-driver
 

I have not installed alsa-driver yet.  Gentoo 1.4 is without sound.
At time of installing Gentoo1.4 I installed emerge emu10k1 because the
box has a Creative Sound Blaster Live sound card.  The installation
was interrupted unexpectedly.  I posted for assistance on this List and
I was advised that I should install alsa-driver.  Therefore I just
left it there incomplete.  Now at boot the OS can't detect the sound module
I tried to find the bootlog to show it here but could not find it under
/var/log/
   

follow the gentoo doc to install alsa-driver, it's easy and clear, as ever ;-)
 

OK I will search this doc.

4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the
lines for your other kernel and change whatever is needed.
 

What shall I add to /boot/grub/grub.conf
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7
   

Sorry, I'm a lilo-user. When I try to install grub, I get stuck in the 
post-bios-boot-thingy (before bootloader gets loaded) with a blinking cursor 
at bottom of screen.

but, I would do the following.

title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r8
or in vi
/Gentoo4yy3jpf(Cgentoo-r9esc2j^Aj^A:wq
;-)
Sorry, I am not very clear.  It seems having only one kernel there, the 
new kernel.  How can I select the old kernel if something going wrong.  
I expect clarifying it before start.

Any folk on the List can shed me some light.

Thanks in advance.

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 17:54, Stephen Liu wrote:
 I am running Maxi Gamer Phoenix card (featuring Voodoo Banshee, 2D/3D
 Graphics Card, 16MB memory).  I am not quite sure whether it is a nVidia
 video card.  How to check it?

Google for Voodoo Banshee.

To save you the time, Voodoo Banshee is a chip produced by the long-gone 3DFX.

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Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi MAL,

Thanks for your advice.

- snip -

Is it;
On MachineA
tar   zcvf   folderToBeTared.tar.gz   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/user/download/folderToBeTared


No, SSH takes anything passed to stdin, and outputs it to stdout on 
the other end, so:

tar zcv folderToBeTarred | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /dir ; tar zxv
It works.

What will be the command for another way round.

If, on MachineA, to tar a folder on MachineB, send the tarball via SSH 
to MachineA and untar it on select folder automatically.

Is it;
$ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/folder | tar zcf cd 
/user:MachineA/path/to/folder tar zxf

Will it tar the full path?  If I only want to tar a selected path say. 
/user/download/folderToBeTared the what shall be the syntax?

man tar

tar will store paths relative from where you run it.

So if you wanted to tar only /usr/download/folderToBeTared but keep 
the full path, you'd do:

cd /
tar zcvf /tmp/folderToBeTared.tar.gz user/download/folderToBeTared
Or if you only wanted the content of the directory:

cd /user/download/FolderToBeTared
tar zcvf /tmp/folderToBeTared.tar.gz .
Or just keep the top folder in the archive:

cd /user/download
tar zcvf /tmp/folderToBeTared.tar.gz folderToBeTared
That is what I am doing now, changing to the top folder of the path to 
be tarred.  I am looking for whether there is shortcut.

Thanks

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing problems

2003-11-19 Thread Kathy Wills
Harlan wrote:

Well, I re-installed (emerged in gentoo parlance) gimp-print, foomatic (and 
related packages) with newer versions.  I still have the same problems with 
the command-line foomatic-configure.  When I try to use the web admin tools 
with cups (Add Printer), I cannot select the device.  I put in the name I 
want, click on the Continue button, the Device dropdown is empty - no 
device choices.

In the cups-doc.html that Kathy suggested, 5. Configure CUPS. says to 
basically use the Add Printer with a web browser and follow the directions, 
which I have done.

Any ideas on how to get a device to be recognized?

I do have /dev/lp0 and I can cat a text file to it.

Thanks,

Harlan...
 

Did you do /etc/init.d/cupsd stop then /etc/init.d/cupsd start after 
doing your upgrades? Is the parport module loaded? Do you have any error 
messages regarding this in /var/log/cups?

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[gentoo-user] emerge system - install question

2003-11-19 Thread gnu4u

Hi all!
I'm installing Gentoo from stage1. I've been through the bootstrap process and then 
emerge system. In the end of the emerge system process I get the message:

Install-info: menu item `Bash' already exists, for file `bash'
* Processed 48 info files; 1 errors.

My question is; is this normal and is it safe to continue from here (timezone, fstab, 
kernel etc.)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel - graphic card

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Jason,

Sorry I made a mistake. 

The graphic card running on Gentoo box is
Creative Graphic Blaster rivaTNT. 

I meshed it with another graphic card running on a RH9 box used for 
testing SSH.

How to check it whether it runs nVidia driver?

B.R.
Stephen
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 17:54, Stephen Liu wrote:
 

I am running Maxi Gamer Phoenix card (featuring Voodoo Banshee, 2D/3D
Graphics Card, 16MB memory).  I am not quite sure whether it is a nVidia
video card.  How to check it?
   

Google for Voodoo Banshee.

To save you the time, Voodoo Banshee is a chip produced by the long-gone 3DFX.

Jason
 



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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Sergey Spiridonov
Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote:

Sorry, if answers are well-known, but I failed to find them on 
www.gentoo.org.

Who are Gentoo managers? Are they elected? Are they Gentoo Technologies 
Inc employees?

Can Gentoo maintainers alter the Social Contract?
Hope it's not a corporate secret ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH

2003-11-19 Thread MAL
Stephen Liu wrote:
tar zcv folderToBeTarred | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /dir ; tar zxv
It works.

What will be the command for another way round.

If, on MachineA, to tar a folder on MachineB, send the tarball via SSH 
to MachineA and untar it on select folder automatically.

Is it;
$ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/folder | tar zcf cd 
/user:MachineA/path/to/folder tar zxf
Interesting guess, but far from correct.

-X is really irrelevant, as we're not doing anything X11 oriented.
ssh is simply being used to run a command (tar), on the remote machine. 
 It will forward any output of the program we run, accross the network, 
to the local machine (so in this case, the output of tar).

So:

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder ; tar zc . | tar zxx

Almost the exact opposite of the command to copy from local to remote. 
The | joins two commands, piping the output of one, to the input of 
another.  ssh and tar happily send data to and from each other, with ssh 
 acting as the go-between.

MAL

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[gentoo-user] problem with X locking up

2003-11-19 Thread Aaron Walker
I got home from work this morning (I work nights), to find my machine 
locked up.  This also happened the day before last.  I could not switch 
to any of the terminals (via ctrl-alt-F1, etc).  I was able to login via 
ssh from another pc, however.  After running top, I noticed X was using 
99% cpu.  Sending X the SIGKILL signal was the only way I could get back 
into the box w/o rebooting.  I'm kind of awestruck because I've used 
linux for 6 or 7 years now and this is literally the first incident I've 
had with anything locking up on me. It's happened twice so far, both 
during the night while I was at work.  I would think if it was an 
overheating problem it would happen during the day while I am sleeping, 
but it hasn't so far.

Any ideas on what might be causing this?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to use userpriv?

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:41, Zarick Lau wrote:
 Hi,

 What is the mean of userpriv in FEATURES inside make.conf?

 Is it something to let a normal user to do emerge?

No

 I add userpriv to FEATURES and then
 ebuild xxx compile

 and I've got a permission error

 If I want to do ebuild/emerge stuff with normal user acct,
 what is the correct way to do so?

userpriv allows portage, running as root, to drop root privileges for the 
compilation.
It's a security feature, there is a miniscule chance that a trojan could get 
implated into the source of a package, without root privs it can't do too 
much.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u world error

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:28, Colin Falkinburg wrote:
 I ran emerge -u world and received this error:

 emerge -u world
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!

 !!! Error: the kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.4 package conflicts with another
 package.
 !!!        both can't be installed on the same system together.
 !!!        Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers.

 Then I ran:

 emerge --pretend kde

But you ran a world update, not a kde install :)
emerge world -up

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI video card

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:12, Marshal Newrock wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Alan wrote:
  Based on what I have heard, mac and pc video cards aren't interchangable
  because the bios is mac or pc :(   You have to flash the bios somehow.
  I'm sure there are tools out there, but like the other poster said, it's
  dangerous (or so I heard).
 
  Gotta love hardware huh? :)  I was looking at buying a mac and figured I
  could just throw my older nvidia card in it to upgrade, but no.
  /rant

 It probably has to do with the different architectures.  Big/little
 endian, word alignments, and other addressing things.  I believe PCI is
 only a physical spec, and has nothing to do with the data being carried
 over it.

That's quite odd, because I bought a second hand/returned ultra160 scsi card 
from Insight over 2 years ago. It had been returned cos it was the mac 
version, yet has worked faultlessly in my athlon fileserver.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel - graphic card

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Jason,

Thanks for your assistance.

I have made google search with

Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT
Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT driver
Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT chipset
and could not find the answer.  What will be the key point making such a 
search.

Thanks

B.R.
Stephen
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 18:56, Stephen Liu wrote:
 

The graphic card running on Gentoo box is
Creative Graphic Blaster rivaTNT.
I meshed it with another graphic card running on a RH9 box used for
testing SSH.
How to check it whether it runs nVidia driver?
   

Same way. Google for Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT.

I'll save you time again. It is a Nvidia chipset and yes the nvidia x11 driver 
does support it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem installing binaries from grp-installation

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 19 November 2003 07:25, Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 15:48, Andreas Schmitzer wrote:
  hello,
 
  i installed my gentoo system from the two Live-CD´s .  while installing,
  all packages where copied to my hard disc.
  now i try to install a package  with  emerge -k  package  and
  nevertheless emerge tries to connect to web sites.
  how can i stop this and force emerge to look only on my hard disc. as far
  as i know the directories are set correctly.

 Once you've done emerge sync the game's pretty much over. The problem is
 that half the packages you copied are now more than likely outdated and
 portage always tries to install the latest available that matches your
 stability requirements. You should be able to jump a through hoops to get
 it to use your packages though. Look at the following example.

emerge package1 package2 package3 ... -pk

You'll either get 
[ebuild .
or
[binary .

I think you can point emerge directly at the binary, like with ebuilds 
bypassing most version checks

emerge /usr/portage/packages/All/abiword...tbz2

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem installing binaries from grp-installation

2003-11-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On 11/19/03  Andreas Schmitzer wrote:

 hello,
 
 i installed my gentoo system from the two Live-CD´s .  while
 installing, all packages where copied to my hard disc.
 now i try to install a package  with  emerge -k  package  and 
 nevertheless emerge tries to connect to web sites.
 how can i stop this and force emerge to look only on my hard disc. as
 far as i know the directories are set correctly.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=105969

Marius

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel - graphic card

2003-11-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 20:17, Stephen Liu wrote:
 I have made google search with

 Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT
 Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT driver
 Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT chipset

 and could not find the answer.  What will be the key point making such a
 search.

I just did a search on creative graphic blaster rivatnt

The first result TOP OFFICE Srl - Prodotti CREATIVE - Graphic Blaster Riva 
TNT contained Delivers world-class 2D and 3D acceleration using nVidia's 
new RivaTNT processor near the top of the page.

The second result User Reviews - Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Riva TNT 
contained I hated the b.s. that came with the creative drivers, so as soon 
as nvidia released an update, I switched to their drivers and now everything 
is great. half-way down the page.

The third result NASCAR Revolution contained NVIDIA® TNT and Riva 128TM 
half-way down the page.

Even the first result returned by your search of Create Graphic Blaster 
rivaTNT was X-bit labs - Articles - Creative 3D Blaster Riva TNT2 M64 
Review - a page almost identical to the first result above.

Should I continue?

 On Wednesday 19 November 2003 18:56, Stephen Liu wrote:
 The graphic card running on Gentoo box is
 Creative Graphic Blaster rivaTNT.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:51:12PM +0100, Sergey V. Spiridonov wrote:
 Who are Gentoo managers? Are they elected? Are they Gentoo Technologies 
 Inc employees?

All managers are listed on
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/metastructure/projects.xml?showlevel=1. They
are indeed elected by the following procedure:

When there is a vacancy, all developers can propose other developers as
project lead. Then all developers (including the nominees) can tell why a
certain person should not be made project lead. Then the existing managers
choose the new lead from the remaining nominees.

This election procedure is currently a draft procedure. Before we took the
most capable person that was interested, as previously we didn't had this
much developers (nor was the management team really official). 
 
 Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract.
 
 Can Gentoo maintainers alter the Social Contract?

Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. That's all there is to
it. No-one is allowed to touch the contract without being backed up by
the managers decision.

Wkr,
Sven Vermeulen

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Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH - security

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Nate,

Thanks.  They are interesting links.  In going through the links another 
question pop-up on my head.

Would it be possible to achieve following targets;

Method 1 - all steps to be performed manually
1) Create a tarball of a bundle of documents on a folder of local 
machine and a key of authentication to untar it simultaneously.  The 
tarball will self-disintegrate on the THIRD attempt of decompressing by 
un-authenticated key
2) Create md5sum file of the tarball (This step can be omitted if the 
key on Step 1 can be created)
3) Send md5sum file and key of authentication to distant machine via SSH 
to a selected folder
4) Send the tarball to that selected folder separately (If the key on 
Step 1 can be created then Step 3 and 4 can be combined)
5) Checksum (optional)
6) Untar the tarball on that folder in the presence of key of 
authentication.

If YES how to make Step 1.

Method 2 - completing those actions on Method 1 automatically with ONE 
command line.

If YES, any suggestion how to proceed.

Any pointer or suggested List/Lists of posting other than SSH would be 
appreciated.   Thanks in advance.

B.R.
Stephen
Nate Duehr wrote:

Stephen Liu wrote:

Hi Nate,

Of course he could have also just piped tar though ssh too... into a 
tar on the opposite side.  This works fine to move a few files too.


Interesting ..


snipped examples of the question of how to do it...

There's a number of ways it can be done, here's one example:

machineA$ tar cf - files | ssh machineB tar xf -

You may need to cd to the appropriate directory before the untar, of 
course, on the far side.

A quick google turned up this page, which seems to have a couple of 
neat tricks... like using two machines to ssh through... good if 
there's a firewall in the way, etc... hadn't thought about that one, 
but it'd work too.

http://www.unixtips.org/

I found this old LJ article in an old bookmark file here too...

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6602

Have fun, it's a neat trick that you can think up all sorts of 
interesting uses for once you figure out that ssh makes for a decent 
machine to machine pipe.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel

2003-11-19 Thread mathieu perrenoud
 4. adda menu in grub.conf to handle the new kernel: copy and paste the
 lines for your other kernel and change whatever is needed.
 
 What shall I add to /boot/grub/grub.conf
 default 0
 timeout 30
 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
 
 title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
 initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7
 
 Sorry, I'm a lilo-user. When I try to install grub, I get stuck in the
 post-bios-boot-thingy (before bootloader gets loaded) with a blinking
  cursor at bottom of screen.
 
 but, I would do the following.
 
 title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
 initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r8
 
 or in vi
 /Gentoo4yy3jpf(Cgentoo-r9esc2j^Aj^A:wq
 ;-)

 Sorry, I am not very clear.  It seems having only one kernel there, the
 new kernel.  How can I select the old kernel if something going wrong.
 I expect clarifying it before start.

 Any folk on the List can shed me some light.

_append_ the lines at the end of grub.conf, like this:

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux (genkernel)
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r7

title=Gentoo Linux, my own new kernel gentoo-r8
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hde3 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r8

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Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax to upgrade kernel - graphic card

2003-11-19 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi Jason,

I re-checked it.
Oh I see.They are case sensitive
Thanks

B.R.
Stephen
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 20:17, Stephen Liu wrote:
 

I have made google search with

Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT
Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT driver
Create Graphic Blaster rivaTNT chipset
and could not find the answer.  What will be the key point making such a
search.
   

I just did a search on creative graphic blaster rivatnt

The first result TOP OFFICE Srl - Prodotti CREATIVE - Graphic Blaster Riva 
TNT contained Delivers world-class 2D and 3D acceleration using nVidia's 
new RivaTNT processor near the top of the page.

The second result User Reviews - Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Riva TNT 
contained I hated the b.s. that came with the creative drivers, so as soon 
as nvidia released an update, I switched to their drivers and now everything 
is great. half-way down the page.

The third result NASCAR Revolution contained NVIDIA® TNT and Riva 128TM 
half-way down the page.

Even the first result returned by your search of Create Graphic Blaster 
rivaTNT was X-bit labs - Articles - Creative 3D Blaster Riva TNT2 M64 
Review - a page almost identical to the first result above.

Should I continue?

 

On Wednesday 19 November 2003 18:56, Stephen Liu wrote:
 

The graphic card running on Gentoo box is
Creative Graphic Blaster rivaTNT.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - install question

2003-11-19 Thread mathieu perrenoud
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 10:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all!
 I'm installing Gentoo from stage1. I've been through the bootstrap process
 and then emerge system. In the end of the emerge system process I get the
 message:

 Install-info: menu item `Bash' already exists, for file `bash'
 * Processed 48 info files; 1 errors.

 My question is; is this normal and is it safe to continue from here
 (timezone, fstab, kernel etc.)?

no problemo, just go on...
I had the same problem for a long time with gpgme.
It was because I had version 3 and version 4 installed at the same time.
I unmerged gpgme, v3 and the problem was gone.
Anyway, you can live with this problem. At least until you found a solution.

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[gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/net virtual ips

2003-11-19 Thread Oliver Lange
Hello everybody,

How do i setup a virtual ip in /etc/conf.d/net ?

while the following command works well:

  ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.7 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0

..the following line in /etc/conf.d/net throws a parse error:

  iface_eth0:0=192.168.0.7 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0

Sorry for these beginner's questions, i've previously configured network
stuff on a SuSE server, where each interface is defined in a separate
config file..
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with X locking up

2003-11-19 Thread mathieu perrenoud
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 11:35 am, Aaron Walker wrote:
 I got home from work this morning (I work nights), to find my machine
 locked up.  This also happened the day before last.  I could not switch
 to any of the terminals (via ctrl-alt-F1, etc).  I was able to login via
 ssh from another pc, however.  After running top, I noticed X was using
 99% cpu.  Sending X the SIGKILL signal was the only way I could get back
 into the box w/o rebooting.  I'm kind of awestruck because I've used
 linux for 6 or 7 years now and this is literally the first incident I've
 had with anything locking up on me. It's happened twice so far, both
 during the night while I was at work.  I would think if it was an
 overheating problem it would happen during the day while I am sleeping,
 but it hasn't so far.

 Any ideas on what might be causing this?

what have been your last emerge just before the first incident? 
use genlop if you don't remember.

no clue in your XFree86.0.log?

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with X locking up

2003-11-19 Thread Aaron Walker
what have been your last emerge just before the first incident? 
use genlop if you don't remember.

no clue in your XFree86.0.log?

The last package I emerged was wither gnome-vfs-extras or gnome-print.
No, nothing abnormal in XFree86.0.log
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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/net virtual ips

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 19 November 2003 12:24, Oliver Lange wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 How do i setup a virtual ip in /etc/conf.d/net ?

 while the following command works well:

ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.7 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask
 255.255.255.0

 ..the following line in /etc/conf.d/net throws a parse error:

iface_eth0:0=192.168.0.7 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0

 Sorry for these beginner's questions, i've previously configured network
 stuff on a SuSE server, where each interface is defined in a separate
 config file..

It's documented in the config file.

# For adding aliases to a interface

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system - install question

2003-11-19 Thread gnu4u



On Wednesday 19 November 2003 10:49 am,

no problemo, just go on...
I had the same problem for a long time with gpgme.
It was because I had version 3 and version 4 installed at the same time.
I unmerged gpgme, v3 and the problem was gone.
Anyway, you can live with this problem. At least until you found a solution.

Ok, thank's. It's running on...

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Re: [gentoo-user] fix-db.pl fails

2003-11-19 Thread Sigurd Stordal
 How to fix?
The directory are in lower case, so you have to move it to the right name, 
witht he right case of chars.
 /var/db/pkg/dev-python/PyXML-0.8.2/CONTENTS: No such file or directory
go to the /var/db/pkg/dev-python directory and do a:

mv pyxml-0.8.2 PyXML-0.8.2

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[gentoo-user] Gnome log out

2003-11-19 Thread Tom Caudron
I've had this problem since I upgraded to Gnome 2.4 from 2.2 but just
haven't bothered looking into it yet.

When I select ActionsLog Out within Gnome, instead of giving me a
dialog box to choose between Rebooting, Logging Out, and Shutting Down,
it just throws me out of X and back to the command prompt where I have
to do a halt command.

Anyone have an idea what might have caused this behavior?

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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources

2003-11-19 Thread Chase Jeffery D
Title: Message



Thanks!!

Jeff


  
  -Original Message-From: Jesper Frickmann 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:45 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 
  Gentoo-sourcesHere is my Netfilter configuration on a 
  2.6-test8 kernel:   
  M Connection tracking (required for 
  masq/NAT) 
  M FTP 
  protocol 
  support 
  M IRC 
  protocol 
  support 
  M TFTP 
  protocol 
  support 
  M Amanda 
  backup protocol 
  support 
  M Userspace queueing 
  via 
  NETLINK 
  M IP tables support 
  (required for filtering/masq/NAT)  
 M limit 
  match 
  support 
  M IP range 
  match 
  support 
  M MAC 
  address match 
  support 
  M Packet 
  type match 
  support 
  M 
  netfilter MARK match 
  support 
  M Multiple 
  port match 
  support 
  M TOS 
  match 
  support 
  M recent 
  match 
  support 
  M ECN 
  match 
  support 
  M DSCP 
  match 
  support 
  M AH/ESP 
  match 
  support 
  M LENGTH 
  match 
  support 
  M TTL 
  match 
  support 
  M tcpmss 
  match 
  support 
  M Helper 
  match 
  support 
  M 
  Connection state match 
  support 
  M 
  Connection tracking match 
  support 
  M Owner 
  match 
  support 
  M Packet 
  filtering 
M 
  REJECT target 
  support 
  M Full 
  NAT 
  M MASQUERADE target 
  support 
  M REDIRECT target 
  support 
NETMAP target 
  support 
SAME target 
  support 
  [*] NAT of local connections 
  (READ 
  HELP) 
  M Basic SNMP-ALG 
  support 
  (EXPERIMENTAL) 
  M Packet 
  mangling 
  M TOS 
  target 
  support 
  M ECN 
  target 
  support 
  M DSCP 
  target 
  support 
  M MARK 
  target 
  support 
CLASSIFY 
  target 
  support 
  M LOG target 
  support 
  M ULOG target 
  support 
  M TCPMSS target 
  support 
  M ARP tables 
  support 
  M ARP 
  packet 
  filtering 
  M ARP 
  payload 
  mangling 
ipchains (2.2-style) 
  support 
  ipfwadm (2.0-style) supportAs far as I remeber, one of the modules 
  also required this under QoS and/or Fair queuing:  
   
  [*] Packet classifier 
  API 
 
   
TC index 
  classifier 
 
   
  M Routing table based 
  classifier 
 
   
Firewall based 
  classifier 
 
   
U32 
  classifier 
   Good luck!JesperChase Jeffery D wrote:
  

Does anyone have a list of kernel settings for 
build time that includes iptables/netfilter/mangaling ? I'm 
having a heck of a time Building the kernel. I continually get errors 
or genkernel won't get past "Make Modules". I've looked at the log in 
var but thats not much help. Any help would be greatly 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome log out

2003-11-19 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:28:50 -0500
Tom Caudron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've had this problem since I upgraded to Gnome 2.4 from 2.2 but just
 haven't bothered looking into it yet.
 
 When I select ActionsLog Out within Gnome, instead of giving me a
 dialog box to choose between Rebooting, Logging Out, and Shutting
 Down, it just throws me out of X and back to the command prompt where
 I have to do a halt command.
 
 Anyone have an idea what might have caused this behavior?


Because we couldnt find a secure way to implement the reboot/shutdown
(they would just shut up and ignore any other choice than logout
unless you're root)   it was decided to simply disable the logout prompt
per default.

If you want the question back , applications-Desktop preferences-
advanced- Session :  prompt on logout 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome log out

2003-11-19 Thread Larry Meadors
Nope. Mine does it too though.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/03 6:28 AM 
I've had this problem since I upgraded to Gnome 2.4 from 2.2 but just
haven't bothered looking into it yet.

When I select ActionsLog Out within Gnome, instead of giving me a
dialog box to choose between Rebooting, Logging Out, and Shutting Down,
it just throws me out of X and back to the command prompt where I have
to do a halt command.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Completely headless install.

2003-11-19 Thread Stroller
On Nov 19, 2003, at 2:42 am, Tom Eastman wrote:
I'd like to do an installation of gentoo completely over the network, 
i.e.
without having to plug a monitor and keyboard at all.

I think all I'd need to do is to find some way of making it boot the 
LiveCD
with sshd started and ...

So... how hard would it be for me to change the LiveCD to accomplish 
this aim?
The below was posted a week or 2 ago. I hope you find it useful.

Stroller.

On Nov 3, 2003, at 6:59 pm, Luke Davison wrote:
Have you checked out this article on hacking the LiveCD?

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=21327

Regards,
Luke
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Subject: [gentoo-user] how to make own version of LiveCD?
would it be possible to make an ISO of the Gentoo LiveCD, mount this 
ISO in
some way, add some contents to it and burn it to a CD, so that it is 
still
bootable and I can install from it, plus have all my added tools on 
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Re: [gentoo-user] dual-head

2003-11-19 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I would like to view your config file, if possible.

I'm trying to set twinview up to run a program (mythtv) over the TV-OUT
on my card, while maintaining my normal display.
My Card can do this (it's in the Windows-drivers), do I hope to get it
running on Linux.

On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 04:43, Andrew Cowie wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 07:54, Alan wrote:
   As far as i understand it does not run x twice, rather it runs one
   instance of x, with a wider screen.
  
  I've only run it this way (via nvidia twinview, their version of
  xinerama)
 
 Nvidia seems to offer a best-of-both-worlds solution; using what they
 called TwinView I've got a 2560x 1024 desktop (across two 1280x1024
 montitors) but Nvidia implemented the Xinerama extension (NOTE! You
 don't use -xinerama on the X command line!) Xinerama information is
 available to clients (ie the window manager) that need to know. 
 
 Xinerama support across the X software universe is still a bit spotty,
 but, notably, one of the major internal enhancements in GNOME 2.4 was
 much better support here; in almost all cases it does the right thing
 - in particular, maximize goes to a single monitor, not across the whole
 two monitor desktop, and GDM puts its login window on one monitor, not
 spread across two (and thus centered rught in the gap between two, which
 would be really annoying. Xscreensaver is notable in that any hack which
 tries to center itself looks a bit dumb as it will be centered in the
 air gap between two monitors...
 
 ... so this is all to say that having XINERAMA (and one X server) seems
 better than not, and two independent X servers (plus, presumably,
 x2x)...
 
  , but I understand that it can be set up with a second X
  running if it's desired.
 
 For both setups, extensive documentation is available in
 /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-1.0./README.gz [though the run two X
 servers isn't recommended because then you a) don't get they're built
 in Xinerama, and, more importantly, you don't get 3D hardware accel on
 both monitors].
 
 This is all on a [in this case PNY] GForce FX5200 [PCI dual VGA] card.
 YMMV.
 
No idea how to set it up though, I'm sure
  there's info in the web forums though.
 
 I can make my XF86Config available if someone needs a specific example.
 
 Cheers,
 
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[gentoo-user] Modem supports but doesn't work under v.90

2003-11-19 Thread Meka[ni]
Modem is ISA 3Com. I know that it works fine (just to be at my friends 
computer), but at
my machine it connects on v34 protocol (maximum of 33600). I also know that this has
something to do with my board, but don't know what. Is there anyone who knows the 
solution
or has a 3Com manual for ISA modem. I think there is an option to make it connect above
given speed. Am I right?

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[gentoo-user] USB Hub + Mouse problems

2003-11-19 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm having some problems connecting a mouse/keyboard combo through a USB hub. I
hat my XF86Config set up to use my mouse on /dev/input/mice. When I plug the
keyboard/mouse straight into my USB socket, I get a couple system messages
indicating they were detected, and it maps them to /dev/input/mice, and I'm good
to go. When I plug in the hub, I get some messages saying a 4-port hub was
detected, and the USB 2.0 LED on the hub itself goes on. When I plug the
keyboard/mouse into the hub, I get the same messages I did when I plugged them
straight into the system, but I can't seem to use them. They don't work in X,
and nothing happens when I cat /dev/input/mice and start typing and moving the
mouse around.

Is there some trick here to getting these hubs to work correctly?



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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Xnest GDM login from KDE

2003-11-19 Thread Guy Van Sanden
I found the answer throught the gnome shortcut
It is a seperate application that does that:

gdmflexiserver --xnest

On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:24, Alan wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:59:48PM +0100, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  How can I get a GDM login using Xnest under KDE?
  Gnome has it in the menu options.
  
  I can do Xnest :1, but that only starts the server.
 
 I run gdmXnestchooser as root, and it allows me to choose my server, and
 then login and choose whatever session type I'd like.  Give that a shot.
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[gentoo-user] Is mirrorselect using ping?

2003-11-19 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Hello. This is my first post to this list.
As well, it is my first attempt installing gentoo linux. I am tryig to 
install stage1.

I am trying to use mirrorselect, knowing my network har problems with PING.
I don't know why, but that is kinda off topic.
During the install procedure, the guide suggests I should use 
mirrorselect to get useable gentoo mirrors.
I go:

mirrorselect -a -s4 -o  /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf

However, it fails (i guess). Here is the output:

netselect: unknown host ftp6.uni-erlangen.de
netselect: unknown host ftp6.uni-erlangen.de
netselect: unknown host ftp.ipv6.uni-muenster.de
And the last line of /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf:
GENTOO_MIRRORS=
I know the network works for other tasks such as getting pages with 
wget. But ping doesn't for several servers/networks.

Does mirrorselect use ping as a method for checking whether a mirror 
exists, when going auto mode?
Might that be the reason why it fails in my case?

I should add:
This is a playground server (beeing my first gentoo attempt), and I am 
testing this from behind an ISDN connection box with an integrated 
firewall - router.

I manually selected close servers, so it isn't really a big issue, but I 
was just wondering.

Best regards, gentoo linux is a pleasant experience so far.

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[gentoo-user] Freevo/Mplayer/Nvidia/X help please!

2003-11-19 Thread Murray Shields
Hi all,

I recently replaced a RH9 and older verion of Freevo with a Gentoo build 
and the latest Freevo (with absolutely everything installed via emerge). 
Everything was compiled, so everything is up-to-date.

The hardware is identical, and primarily consists of a Celeron 1.1, 
256Mb RAM and a Nvidia GeForce 440MX with 64Mb RAM. I should also note 
that Freevo is started from the command line, not from within X itself. 
Whilst it was out of date, Freevo worked perfectly before the reload.

Freevo will now run quite happliy boot and play MP3's and image 
slideshows, but when I try to view a video (any video, any codec) I get 
a black screen for several seconds then get dumped back to the Freevo 
menu. If I use mplayer from the command line it works fine and plays the 
specified movie file (the same file that fails from within Freevo).

When I exit Freevo I see messages indicating that errors have been 
placed in the mplayer logs, as follows:

mplayer_stdout.log looks good until the line:
vo: x11 uninit called but x11 not inited..
and then it exits.
mplayer_stderr.log has this:
can't open '/root/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory.
can't open input config '/root/.mplayer/input.conf': No such file or 
directory.
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
Error opening/initialising the selected video_out (-vo) device.

If I change Freevo to use x11 instead of fbdev as its display mode, 
I get an additonal Freevo error saying:

Warning: display is set to x11, but the environment has no DISPLAY set. 
Setting display to fbdev.

mplayer_stderr.log no longer has the lines complaining about the 
video_out device.

Note that XFree86 is installed, as is the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx. 
KDE and Gnome are NOT installed. I believe the Nvidia drivers are 
installed correctly (I get the Nvidia logo when I do a startx, which 
runs just fine). Running Freevo from inside X does not fix the problem.

I am probably missing something simple, but stuffed if I know what it 
is. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Murray.





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Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock

2003-11-19 Thread Marianne Taylor
On November 18, 2003 09:43, A. Craig West wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Javier Gostling wrote:
  Actually, Windows assumes the hw clock to be set to local time, so if you
  set Linux to UTC, then Linux will mess your time. I had this happen some
  time ago, and instructing Linux that the hw clock is in local time solved
  the issue.

 I've never really understood why it is that Microsoft does not allow a UTC
 hardware clock. Because of daylight savings time, having the hardware clock
 set to localtime causes the actual hardware clock to be reset twice a year.
 This can result in flakiness with any process that happened to be waiting
 for a time to occur at that instant.

 My solution, which isn't particularly good, is to run any dual boot
 machines in UTC and tell windows that my timezone is Greenwich Mean Time,
 and set it to not adjust the clock for daylight savings. I would rather
 have to deal with times in GMT than have random intermittent flakiness.

Now that we are done the debate on M$ vs. linux I hope? 

Does anyone know the answer to my original question.  Up until about a month 
ago I was keeping good time both in windows and in gentoo with my hwclock set 
to local.  Now for some reason everytime I boot gentoo it thinks that the 
hwclock is set to UTC and corrects for that ie) it sets the time 8 hrs 
earlier.  So where do I look other than rc.conf to correct this??


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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Sergey Spiridonov
Sven Vermeulen wrote:

Thank you for answers.

Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. That's all there is to
it. No-one is allowed to touch the contract without being backed up by
the managers decision.
Are managers 'Gentoo Technologies Inc' employees?
Can managers alter the Social Contract?
How much power Daniel Robbins have? Can he override (or veto) managers 
decisions?

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Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock

2003-11-19 Thread brett holcomb
It wasn't a debate on MS vs Linux - someone gave wrong 
advice so several corrected that so you didn't go barking 
up the wrong tree.

You might try man hwclock (if I remember correctly as my 
Gentoo machine is not available) allows you to update the 
system clock with what you have set.  I had to do that on 
a machine that didn't keep time.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:20:11 -0800
 Marianne Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On November 18, 2003 09:43, A. Craig West wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Javier Gostling wrote:
 Actually, Windows assumes the hw clock to be set to 
local time, so if you
Now that we are done the debate on M$ vs. linux I hope? 

Does anyone know the answer to my original question.  Up 
until about a month 
ago I was keeping good time both in windows and in gentoo 
with my hwclock set 
to local.  Now for some reason everytime I boot gentoo it 
thinks that the 
hwclock is set to UTC and corrects for that ie) it sets 
the time 8 hrs 
earlier.  So where do I look other than rc.conf to 
correct this??

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Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock

2003-11-19 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Marianne Taylor wrote:

 Does anyone know the answer to my original question.  Up until about
 a month ago I was keeping good time both in windows and in gentoo
 with my hwclock set to local.  Now for some reason everytime I boot
 gentoo it thinks that the hwclock is set to UTC and corrects for that
 ie) it sets the time 8 hrs earlier.  So where do I look other than
 rc.conf to correct this??

If at some point in the past, you booted the system with UTC in /etc/rc.conf
and then switched it to LOCAL and shut your system down.  It saved the
offset time as the local time.  Essentially, your system clock was set back
8 hours.  The only fix is to manually update the time yourself using 'date'.

Usage: date [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]


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Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock

2003-11-19 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 07:20, Marianne Taylor wrote:
 Now that we are done the debate on M$ vs. linux I hope?

 Does anyone know the answer to my original question.  Up until about
 a month ago I was keeping good time both in windows and in gentoo
 with my hwclock set to local.  Now for some reason everytime I boot
 gentoo it thinks that the hwclock is set to UTC and corrects for that
 ie) it sets the time 8 hrs earlier.  So where do I look other than
 rc.conf to correct this??

$ grep RTC /usr/src/linux/.config
# CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT is not set
CONFIG_RTC=m

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
Sergey,

I am curious, your a Debian guy from my google searches. If your trying to fish for 
information. Why don't you look at the home pages and talk to Daniel Robbins himself?? 
Your fishing for information from people who just simply love gentoo for what it is, 
and don't care about the politics.. Your best to go to the man himself who really sets 
this stuff up...

Seems pretty childish to run around fishing for information to try to see how we work 
when you can just read the homepage and get it yourself.

 Thank you for answers.
 
  Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. That's 
 all there is to
  it. No-one is allowed to touch the contract without being 
 backed up by
  the managers decision.
 
 Are managers 'Gentoo Technologies Inc' employees?
 Can managers alter the Social Contract?
 How much power Daniel Robbins have? Can he override (or veto) 
 managers 
 decisions?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock

2003-11-19 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 Nov 2003 07:20, Marianne Taylor wrote:
 Now that we are done the debate on M$ vs. linux I hope?

 Does anyone know the answer to my original question. Up until about
 a month ago I was keeping good time both in windows and in gentoo
 with my hwclock set to local. Now for some reason everytime I boot
 gentoo it thinks that the hwclock is set to UTC and corrects for that
 ie) it sets the time 8 hrs earlier. So where do I look other than
 rc.conf to correct this??

 $ grep RTC /usr/src/linux/.config
 # CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT is not set
 CONFIG_RTC=m


Why would the real-time-clock have anything to do with the system date?
That is for another purpose altogether.

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Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock

2003-11-19 Thread mathieu perrenoud

  Does anyone know the answer to my original question. Up until about
  a month ago I was keeping good time both in windows and in gentoo
  with my hwclock set to local. Now for some reason everytime I boot
  gentoo it thinks that the hwclock is set to UTC and corrects for that
  ie) it sets the time 8 hrs earlier. So where do I look other than
  rc.conf to correct this??

sorry, I didn't follow the thread, but what is your /etc/localtime linking to?

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo user -- Questions

2003-11-19 Thread Luke Scharf
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 16:49, Hall Stevenson wrote:
 At 03:23 PM 11/18/2003, you wrote:
 When using gs-sources, is there any way to get genkernel to
 automagically copy the bzImage to /boot and run make modules_install
 like it does with the other kernels?
 
 You know, I've been using this for years
 
 make install
 
 It doesn't do 'make modules_install' that I know of though. Maybe it does, 
 but since I've already done it by hand, it skips through it.

make install looks like it'll make things much easier!

I've been setting up the kernel and the System.map by hand since the
2.0.39 days...  I guess I should have delved deeper into the makefiles!

Thanks for the info!
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[gentoo-user] XFS font cache

2003-11-19 Thread Karl Huysmans
Hi,

Does any one know how were xfs might keep it's font cache? Tried to
disable a large font directory in /etc/X11/fs/config, but whatever I
try, the fonts still show up in KDE and Gnome ... 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Sergey Spiridonov
Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
Sergey,

Why don't you look at the home pages and talk to Daniel Robbins himself??
Jeffrey,

isn't gentoo-user the place to ask questions about the Gentoo?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread brett holcomb
Well, since Daniel started Gentoo and it's private I would 
assume that he has final say and I really can't find fault 
with that as he came up with Gentoo and has put a lot of 
time into it.  

As someone else asked - what's the point of all this?  It 
sounds like you have an agenda you want to accompish.  I 
would suggest you email Daniel directly and deal with him 
rather than on the list as none of us can really answer 
your questions.  

I would also suggest you take time to peruse the mail list 
archives as there was a big discussion on Gentoo and it's 
structure, goals, and aims about 6-9 months ago.  Read it 
first before opening it all up again.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:32:46 +0100
 Sergey Spiridonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sven Vermeulen wrote:

Thank you for answers.

Everybody can propose to alter the Social Contract. 
That's all there is to
it. No-one is allowed to touch the contract without being 
backed up by
the managers decision.
Are managers 'Gentoo Technologies Inc' employees?
Can managers alter the Social Contract?
How much power Daniel Robbins have? Can he override (or 
veto) managers decisions?

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[gentoo-user] Installing Latex on Gentoo

2003-11-19 Thread Alan Watson
Hi,

I would like to install the Latex typesetting engine. When I run emerge -s
latex the results only seem to show front end support. Is it included in a
different package?

Thanks,

Alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread brett holcomb
Not these kind which deal with how Gentoo operates in 
detail.  You can go to the home page and if that doesn't 
satisfy you go to the people who run it - Daniel for one. 
We on the user list especially have only a broad overview 
of how Gentoo works internally - some devs have more but 
not much.

Go to the source.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:40:25 +0100
 Sergey Spiridonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
Sergey,

Why don't you look at the home pages and talk to Daniel 
Robbins himself??
Jeffrey,

isn't gentoo-user the place to ask questions about the 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
This is a political question. We know how gentoo runs, most, if not all, can care less 
how developers argue about getting something in some contract as long as gentoo runs 
and ebuilds come out when they should.

Again, whats so hard about asking the people you SHOULD be asking.. I am just trying 
to tell you your asking in the wrong place. If you want to keep asking in here and 
getting opinions from here, fine.. But don't go back to your debian friends with it as 
law, since you find it hard to ask Daniel Robbins.

Frankly, I find your questions to be odd. If you really wanted to get this for some 
Company, or important reasons, you would be smart enough to know where to get the 
information you need. You, to me, seem to just be trying to get some information for 
some other reason..

Just my ¼ cent worth.

You still have not answered MY question of why you need to know?

 Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
  Sergey,
  
  Why don't you look at the home pages and talk to Daniel 
 Robbins himself??
 
 Jeffrey,
 
 isn't gentoo-user the place to ask questions about the Gentoo?

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[gentoo-user] Compilling error

2003-11-19 Thread Vt Vomko
When compiling gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1 it writes:
checking for gnome-vfs library = 0.9... ./configure: line 1:
gnome-vfs-config: command not found
./configure: line 1: gnome-vfs-config: command not found
configure: error: Did not find gnome-vfs installed

!!! ERROR: gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 40, Exitcode 1
!!! (no error message)

But I have gnome-vfs indtalledWhere is the problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Making room for Gentoo

2003-11-19 Thread Lucas Sallovitz
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G'day list,

I'm thinking this question's probably come up here before, but I'm going to pose it anyway; I've got a Compaq Presario 2140 with Windows XP installed, and I'd like to install Gentoo without wiping and repartitioning.  Can anyone recommend any free tools that they've found reliable for resizing partitions for use with WinXP and Gentoo?  I'd appreciate any advise you've got to give.
 

parted (or qtparted) is easy to use, doesn't require defaging and has 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Latex on Gentoo

2003-11-19 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Alan Watson wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I would like to install the Latex typesetting engine. When I run emerge -s
 latex the results only seem to show front end support. Is it included in a
 different package?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] XFS font cache

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Williams
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 try, the fonts still show up in KDE and Gnome ...

I often find looking at the init scripts very helpful, and in this case it is.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
I dont' know, frankly, but he has been on the debian weekly status.. Seems to be very 
active..  I didn't care to go that far. 

I just don't see someone who really wants these questions answered for important 
reasons, coming to a list of us to get it unless he has an agenda, I may not like...

But I am skeptical at heart, so.

 Do you mean he's part of the debian team or just a debian 
 user?
 
 On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:42:20 -0600
   Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sergey,
 
 I am curious, your a Debian guy from my google searches. 
 If your trying to fish for information. Why don't you 
 look at the home pages and talk to Daniel Robbins 
 himself?? Your fishing for information from people who 
 just simply love gentoo for what it is, and don't care 
 about the politics.. Your best to go to the man himself 

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Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock

2003-11-19 Thread gnu4u



On November 18, 2003,   Marianne Taylor wrote:
Does anyone know the answer to my original question.  Up until about a month 
ago I was keeping good time both in windows and in gentoo with my hwclock set 
to local.  Now for some reason everytime I boot gentoo it thinks that the 
hwclock is set to UTC and corrects for that ie) it sets the time 8 hrs 
earlier.  So where do I look other than rc.conf to correct this??

I didn't see your original mail so I'm not quite sure what it is you want but in case 
this is of any interest: on a multi-system box I got, the systems all have an ntp 
client to check the proper time, all from the same server. The local time has to be 
right of course, in my case it's:
# ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Stockholm /etc/localtime

Cheers,
Helgi Örn 




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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Latex on Gentoo

2003-11-19 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:57:39AM +1000, Alan Watson wrote:
 I would like to install the Latex typesetting engine. When I run emerge -s
 latex the results only seem to show front end support. Is it included in a
 different package?

Try tetex 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Barry Marler
This forum's name is fairly illustrative of it's purpose:  to discuss issues relating 
to using the distribution.  The Gentoo philosophy per se is, IMHO, not germane to 
gentoo-user. 

On 17:40 Wed 19 Nov, Sergey Spiridonov wrote:
 Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
 Sergey,
 
 Why don't you look at the home pages and talk to Daniel Robbins himself??
 
 Jeffrey,
 
 isn't gentoo-user the place to ask questions about the Gentoo?

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[gentoo-user] Setting up static routes in gentoo?

2003-11-19 Thread Jason A. Pfeil
Good Afternoon to all.

Does anyone have any way to set up static routes using the standard
gentoo /etc/conf.d/net system instead of having to use the local.start
configuration method of issuing commands myself?

I looked in the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rc script and didn't find a way to
do it so I quickly hacked in a method that seems to work for me.  Please
let me know your thoughts/comments and whether or not I should send this
to gentoo-dev.

The patch against /etc/init.d/net.eth0 is attached.

Have a great day!

--Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:32:46PM +0100, Sergey Spiridonov wrote:
 Thank you for answers.

No problem. As opposed to some ideas that are floating here I do not care
what your motives are to ask this. Every question is a valid one, and
although I don't know everything I just try to reply to my best effort.

The last thing I want to start is the idea that Gentoo is a closed
distribution...
 
 Are managers 'Gentoo Technologies Inc' employees?

No.

 Can managers alter the Social Contract?

Everybody can propose a change to the social contract.

If you mean if someone has the access to the social contract, then all people
involved with the website can, but they aren't allowed to unless they have
the managers' consent.

 How much power Daniel Robbins have? Can he override (or veto) managers 
 decisions?

As this is a hypothetical situation that has never occured before, I can't
answer this one. And I don't think this is a valid question either, as it
cannot be answered perfectly (as it is a hypothetical situation).

Wkr,
Sven Vermeulen

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[gentoo-user] xfce4 panel on top annoying programs pop up under panel

2003-11-19 Thread Wouter Groeneveld
Hi all,

I've set the width on top of my screen to 45, wich means when I maximize 
for instance mozilla-firebird, the program wont go on top of my panel 
wich is located on top of the screen. Im running XFCE4.0.1.

But some programs keep on popping up, wich is kind of annoying. They 
seem to deny the command of keeping out of that 45 area. I mean programs 
like mozilla-thunderbird, not the program itself (remembers position, 
first time only) but every time I want to write a new mail the compose 
window pops up under my panel. Is there a way to solve this bug?
Also, emacs does this all the time but xfce.bugs.org says emacs doesnt 
listen to the xfree width  height. Can live with that, but every time I 
compose a new mail...

Also, small issue with xfce4-iconbox:
iconbox.height is not equal to panel.height!
Annoying when you place them near eachother... a way to manually fix 
this in one of the config files?



Greets
Jefklak.
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[gentoo-user] ati-drivers

2003-11-19 Thread gnu4u

Hi!
I'm installing from stage one and I've come to the step *Installing additional 
hardware-specific ebuilds*, I need to know if the ati-drivers package includes all the 
common ATI graphic cards drivers?
My card is ATI Rage 128VR AGP with 8 MB memory, when using XFree86 on other Linux 
dists I use the ati drivers, I just wonder if this one is the same?

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Latex on Gentoo

2003-11-19 Thread Jason A. Pfeil
Alan,

LaTeX support is in the tetex package.

--Jason

On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 19:57, Alan Watson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I would like to install the Latex typesetting engine. When I run emerge -s
 latex the results only seem to show front end support. Is it included in a
 different package?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Gaffney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
I'm installing from stage one and I've come to the step *Installing additional 
hardware-specific ebuilds*, I need to know if the ati-drivers package includes all the 
common ATI graphic cards drivers?
My card is ATI Rage 128VR AGP with 8 MB memory, when using XFree86 on other Linux 
dists I use the ati drivers, I just wonder if this one is the same?
I have a similar card:

upstairs root # scanpci -v | grep ATI
 ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 SM/4x AGP 4x
 CardVendor 0x1002 card 0x0008 (ATI Technologies Inc Xpert 99/Xpert 2000)
and it works just fine with the xfree 'ati' driver which will automatically load the 
proper driver (probably 'r128'). You can emerge xfree-drm to get the DRI drivers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up static routes in gentoo?

2003-11-19 Thread Jason A. Pfeil
Drat.  I forgot to include the patch...

Here it is...

--Jason

On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 12:02, Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
 Good Afternoon to all.
 
 Does anyone have any way to set up static routes using the standard
 gentoo /etc/conf.d/net system instead of having to use the local.start
 configuration method of issuing commands myself?
 
 I looked in the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rc script and didn't find a way to
 do it so I quickly hacked in a method that seems to work for me.  Please
 let me know your thoughts/comments and whether or not I should send this
 to gentoo-dev.
 
 The patch against /etc/init.d/net.eth0 is attached.
 
 Have a great day!
 
 --Jason
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--- /etc/init.d/net.eth0.20031119.1200	2003-11-19 07:26:54.0 -0500
+++ /etc/init.d/net.eth0	2003-11-19 06:45:32.0 -0500
@@ -33,6 +33,7 @@
 	inet6_IFACE=$(eval echo \$\{inet6_${iface}\})
 	alias_IFACE=$(eval echo \$\{alias_${iface}\})
 	status_IFACE=$(ifconfig | gawk -v IFACE=${iface} '/Link/ { if ($1 == IFACE) print up }')
+	routes_IFACE=$(eval echo \$\{routes_${iface}\})
 	vlans=$(eval echo \$\{iface_${IFACE}_vlans\})
 }
 
@@ -113,7 +114,28 @@
 		done
 		save_options inet6 ${inet6_IFACE}
 	fi
-	
+
+	if [ -n ${routes_IFACE} ]
+	then
+		ebegin Setting up static routes
+		ROUTE_EXE=/sbin/route
+		ROUTE_CMD=
+		for element in $routes_IFACE; do
+			if [ $element = host -o $element = net ]
+			then
+if [ x$ROUTE_CMD != x ]
+then
+	`$ROUTE_CMD`
+fi
+ROUTE_CMD=$ROUTE_EXE add -$element
+			else
+ROUTE_CMD=$ROUTE_CMD $element
+			fi
+		done
+		`$ROUTE_CMD`
+		eend 0
+	fi
+
 	if [ -n ${gateway} ]  [ ${gateway%/*} = ${IFACE} ]
 	then
 		ebegin   Setting default gateway

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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers

2003-11-19 Thread gnu4u

 Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I have a similar card:

upstairs root # scanpci -v | grep ATI
  ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 SM/4x AGP 4x
  CardVendor 0x1002 card 0x0008 (ATI Technologies Inc Xpert 99/Xpert 2000)

Yours is a PCI while mine is an *onboard* integrated one, might well be the same chip 
though.

and it works just fine with the xfree 'ati' driver which will automatically load the 
proper driver (probably 'r128'). You can emerge xfree-drm to get the DRI drivers.

Thank's for your reply, I'll install the ati-drivers package, but I'm still waiting 
for the emu10k1 package in the making...:-)

Cheers,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: X Forwarding via SSH

2003-11-19 Thread Elliott, Andrew
FYI: I found my problem.  It was two-fold:

1) TCP Wrappers were not allowing X
2) /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf was starting X with -nolisten tcp

Thanks to all for the private replies.

-andrew

-Original Message-
From: Elliott, Andrew 
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: X Forwarding via SSH 


I have recently run into a situation where I need to export my display
from a server without ssh to my gentoo box.  (I had to actually install
telnet to do this)

I have done the following:

on the server:
set the DISPLAY=192.168.0.234:0.0

on my box:
Created a rule to allow that server IP (192.168.0.3) in my IP Tables
rules.
xhost + 192.168.0.3 (on my gentoo box)
even removed -nolisten tcp from the /usr/X11R6/bin/startx script
restarted X

I am still unable to get any X apps from that server to work on my box.
I am able to get various X apps to export to my box from other hosts
using ssh, but for some reason the connections for this one just time
out.

If anyone has any ideas where I might go from here, that would be great.

Thanks in advance,

-andrew

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From: Roberto Padovani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: X Forwarding via SSH 


From my post in the thread: SSH permission question

cheers,

R#

on the X-serving host:

#xhost + 192.168.0.?

being the remote host IP

and also

# echo '192.168.0.?:0.0'  $DISPLAY

being the X-serving host


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Re: [gentoo-user] djbdns setup questions

2003-11-19 Thread Tom Caudron
Well, a month later and I'm back to working on this dns problem.

I tried to follow Mike's advice (found below), but I ran in to a
problem.  When I emerged djbdns, it never created anything called
dnscache.  It only created dnscachex, tinydns, and axfrdns.  And unlike
every other reference I've seen/read about, including Mike's below, it
was put in the /var directory, not the /etc directory.  I doubt the
directory change is an issue, and since I don't really care about acting
as a proxy dns to my internal network, I'm not sure I need dnscache, but
I could be wrong on both counts.

Anyway, it still won't work.  :(

I've added the domain and its aliases to the system using tinydns's
add-host and add-alias.  For simplicity's sake, let's say my IP is
1.2.3.4 and my domain is foobar.com.  Here is the output I get when I
check on my setup:

 tinydns-get a www.foobar.com 1.2.3.4
1 www.foobar.com:
89 bytes, 1+1+1+1 records, response, authoritative, noerror
query: 1 www.foobar.com
answer: www.foobar.com 86400 A 1.2.3.4
authority: foobar.com 259200 NS a.ns.foobar.com
additional: a.ns.foobar.com 259200 A 1.2.3.4

 svstat /service/tinydns
/service/tinydns: up (pid 932) 870016 seconds

 svstat /service/axfrdns
/service/axfrdns: up (pid 13218) 0 seconds

 dnsq a www.foobar.com 1.2.3.4
at this point the system just sits there.  No returned value!

 dnsqr a www.foobar.com
at this point the system just sits there.  No returned value!

 cat /service/dnscachex/log/main/current
@40003fa61ab11f645e8c starting
@40003fadc55d20421074 starting

Looking at tcpdump, If I call up a browser and try to reach
www.foobar.com I get this:

tcpdump -i any | grep foobar
00:41:02.485868 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-my-ip.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  42193 A? www.foobar.com. (38) (DF)
00:41:13.480699 nrfkdnss02.rd.hr.cox.net.56943 
wsip-my-ip.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  25461 A? www.foobar.com. (38) (DF)
00:41:14.775501 192.168.0.9.32806  ns1.hr.cox.net.domain:  38338+ A?
www.foobar.com. (38) (DF)

And that continues for a while, trying different permutations, like
localhost.foobar.com or www.foobar.com.localdomain, etc

tcpdump -i any | grep unreachable
01:35:49.816329 localhost.localdomain  localhost.localdomain: icmp:
localhost.localdomain udp port domain unreachable [tos 0xc0] 

In the end, the browser just says foobar.com could not be found.  :(

I've registered my machine/ip as a valid dns (and I get dns requests all
the time, but the above mentioned udp error suggests to me that they
aren't be fulfilled) and I've got apache set up to give me a domain back
(it works on another hosted domain that uses an external authoritative
dns server for discovery).

Does anyone have a clue as to what could be the problem?  Any help would
be appreciated.  :)

-Tom Caudron



 From: Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] djbdns setup questions
 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:39:20 +0100
 
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 On Saturday 18 October 2003 14:58, Tom Caudron wrote:
  I've googled til my fingers bled and all I cna find are how-to
  describing how I cna set up djbdns to serve a home network (maybe I just
  didn't know what I was looking at?).  Here's what I'm doing.
 
  I have registered a domain (we'll call it foobar.com) and I intend on
  hosting it publicly from my home server, which is running on a cable
 
 [snip snippty]
 
 Right, basic setup.
 Tinydns listens on 127.0.0.1, dnscache(x) listens on an/the external 
 interface(s). Tiny is the resolver, dnscache the  (brainfart moment).
 
 My router has it's internal address in /etc/resolv.conf (it's 192 address).
 
 Lets do this backwards, starting with dnscache.
 redshat root # cat /etc/dnscache/env/IP
 192.168.0.1
 You will need dnscache, and dnscachex. One on the internal that will resolve 
 anything, and one on the external that will only resolve your domain.
 The files in /etc/dnscache/root/ip/ tell dnscache who is allowed access, in my 
 case
 redshat root # ls -lh /etc/dnscache/root/ip/
 total 0
 - -rw---1 root root0 Jul  1 02:43 127.0.0.1
 - -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul  1 02:43 192.168
 I'm pretty sure an @ will allow anyone.
 
 To tell it what it is authorative for, and where it go for the resolver put 
 files in /etc/dnscache/root/servers
 redshat root # ls -lh /etc/dnscache/root/servers/
 total 12K
 - -rw-r--r--1 root root   10 Jul  1 02:43 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa
 - -rw-r--r--1 root root  164 Jul  1 02:43 @
 - -rw-r--r--1 root root   10 Jul  1 02:43 home.gaima.co.uk
 redshat root # cat /etc/dnscache/root/servers/0.168.192.in-addr.arpa
 127.0.0.1
 redshat root # cat /etc/dnscache/root/servers/home.gaima.co.uk
 127.0.0.1
 redshat root # cat /etc/dnscache/root/servers/\@
 198.41.0.4
 128.9.0.107
 192.33.4.12
 128.8.10.90
 192.203.230.10
 192.5.5.241
 192.112.36.4
 128.63.2.53
 192.36.148.17
 198.41.0.10
 193.0.14.129
 

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome log out

2003-11-19 Thread Jon Ellis
Run gnome-session-properties and you can choose to prompt on logout. 
For some reason this gets turned off in Gnome 2.4.

Jon

On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 06:28, Tom Caudron wrote:
 I've had this problem since I upgraded to Gnome 2.4 from 2.2 but just
 haven't bothered looking into it yet.
 
 When I select ActionsLog Out within Gnome, instead of giving me a
 dialog box to choose between Rebooting, Logging Out, and Shutting Down,
 it just throws me out of X and back to the command prompt where I have
 to do a halt command.
 
 Anyone have an idea what might have caused this behavior?
 
 -Tom Caudron
 
 
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[gentoo-user] iptables and linux 2.6-test9

2003-11-19 Thread Redeeman
hi, i am running linux2.6-test9, and i want to use iptables, i read the
gentoo ip masqurading guide, but, i am wondering about the stuff kernel
side, i only want to filter some ports, and forward some ports, what
stuff should i enable in the kernel? and after that, should i emerge
iptables? (is iptables a program needed to use the iptables stuff in
kernel?)

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RE: [gentoo-user] iptables and linux 2.6-test9

2003-11-19 Thread Chris Carter
Hi Redeeman,

 hi, i am running linux2.6-test9, and i want to use iptables, 
 i read the gentoo ip masqurading guide, but, i am wondering 
 about the stuff kernel side, i only want to filter some 
 ports, and forward some ports, what stuff should i enable in 
 the kernel? and after that, should i emerge iptables? (is 
 iptables a program needed to use the iptables stuff in
 kernel?)

I added all kernel options under netfilter (excluding ipchains and
experimental stuff) as modules. The iptables in Portage wouldn't compile
on my hardware so I downloaded the latest available from the iptables
website, compiled and installed that successfully. Then used
turtlefirewall to configure my firewall rules.

Cheers!
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[gentoo-user] gnome session changes...

2003-11-19 Thread Andrei Ivanov


Hello,
I'm having some trouble convincing gnome not to save changes to the 
session.

By default, gnome saves the changes, so if I logout of gnome with some 
programs running, when I logon the next time it starts them again.

So I closed all the applications and logged out, and then I logged in 
again (no applications were started automatically... good).
I disabled Applications- Desktop preferences- Advanced- Session 
Options:  Automatically save changes to session and logged out.

But when I logged in, the Sessions configuration dialog appeared, and, 
after it, Nautilus also started and this happens now every time... :(

What can I do ?


Btw: why can't I use the `win` key on my keyboard as a shortcut ? (it 
seems gnome doesn't see the key press)

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[gentoo-user] PCMCIA HDD

2003-11-19 Thread Tracy LCpl Derek E
Does anyone know how to get a 5gig PCMCIA HDD working on the 2.6.0-test9
kernel?  I have emerged pcmcia-cs and still do not know how to get it
working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] djbdns setup questions

2003-11-19 Thread Eric Paynter
I missed the first part of the thread (new to the list) so I didn't
get exactly what you're trying to do. Is it just host a DNS server
as the authority for your domain? Where are your secondaries? You
don't need dnscache to host an authoritative DNS, you just need
tinydns for that.

The first thing I like to do when diagnosing a network service
problem is determine what process is listening on the port I'm
trying to troubleshoot.

netstat -nlp will show you this. On our DNS server, I look for the
UDP line on port 53 and get this:

 netstat -nlp | grep udp | grep 53
udp0  0 (myIP):53  0.0.0.0:*
  1666/

To confirm this is in fact tinydns listening, I do a ps for the pid
1666 and find this:

 ps -p 1666 -f
UIDPID  PPID  C STIME TTY  TIME CMD
tinydns   1666  1638  0 Oct04 ?00:04:41 [tinydns]

Now I know that it's tinydns listening and that some other process
hasn't bound to that port. Then I can move forward to troubleshoot
the problem with tinydns.

I use dig to troubleshoot DNS problems. If you do:

 dig @ns.foo.com www.foo.com a

It will query the name server ns.foo.com for the a record
www.foo.com. What output does dig give on your system?

Also, knowing your actual domain name would be helpful. Then I could
try to query from here and see what the response is.

btw, your axfrdns is not working, as is shown by the 0 seconds
uptime. You only need axfrdns if you have secondary DNS servers
using the BIND protocol to sync with your primary, so that may not
be an issue?

-Eric


Tom Caudron said:
 Well, a month later and I'm back to working on this dns problem.

 I tried to follow Mike's advice (found below), but I ran in to a
 problem.  When I emerged djbdns, it never created anything called
 dnscache.  It only created dnscachex, tinydns, and axfrdns.  And
 unlike every other reference I've seen/read about, including
 Mike's below, it was put in the /var directory, not the /etc
 directory.  I doubt the directory change is an issue, and since I
 don't really care about acting as a proxy dns to my internal
 network, I'm not sure I need dnscache, but I could be wrong on
 both counts.

 Anyway, it still won't work.  :(

 I've added the domain and its aliases to the system using
 tinydns's add-host and add-alias.  For simplicity's sake,
 let's say my IP is 1.2.3.4 and my domain is foobar.com.  Here is
 the output I get when I check on my setup:

 tinydns-get a www.foobar.com 1.2.3.4
 1 www.foobar.com:
 89 bytes, 1+1+1+1 records, response, authoritative, noerror
 query: 1 www.foobar.com
 answer: www.foobar.com 86400 A 1.2.3.4
 authority: foobar.com 259200 NS a.ns.foobar.com
 additional: a.ns.foobar.com 259200 A 1.2.3.4

 svstat /service/tinydns
 /service/tinydns: up (pid 932) 870016 seconds

 svstat /service/axfrdns
 /service/axfrdns: up (pid 13218) 0 seconds

 dnsq a www.foobar.com 1.2.3.4
 at this point the system just sits there.  No returned value!

 dnsqr a www.foobar.com
 at this point the system just sits there.  No returned value!

 cat /service/dnscachex/log/main/current
 @40003fa61ab11f645e8c starting
 @40003fadc55d20421074 starting

 Looking at tcpdump, If I call up a browser and try to reach
 www.foobar.com I get this:

tcpdump -i any | grep foobar
 00:41:02.485868 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
 wsip-my-ip.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  42193 A? www.foobar.com. (38)
 (DF) 00:41:13.480699 nrfkdnss02.rd.hr.cox.net.56943 
 wsip-my-ip.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  25461 A? www.foobar.com. (38)
 (DF) 00:41:14.775501 192.168.0.9.32806  ns1.hr.cox.net.domain:
 38338+ A? www.foobar.com. (38) (DF)

 And that continues for a while, trying different permutations,
 like localhost.foobar.com or www.foobar.com.localdomain, etc

tcpdump -i any | grep unreachable
 01:35:49.816329 localhost.localdomain  localhost.localdomain:
 icmp: localhost.localdomain udp port domain unreachable [tos 0xc0]


 In the end, the browser just says foobar.com could not be found.
 :(

 I've registered my machine/ip as a valid dns (and I get dns
 requests all the time, but the above mentioned udp error suggests
 to me that they aren't be fulfilled) and I've got apache set up to
 give me a domain back (it works on another hosted domain that uses
 an external authoritative dns server for discovery).

 Does anyone have a clue as to what could be the problem?  Any help
 would be appreciated.  :)

 -Tom Caudron



 From: Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] djbdns setup questions
 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:39:20 +0100

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 On Saturday 18 October 2003 14:58, Tom Caudron wrote:
  I've googled til my fingers bled and all I cna find are how-to
 describing how I cna set up djbdns to serve a home network
 (maybe I just didn't know what I was looking at?).  Here's
 what I'm doing.
 
  I have registered a domain (we'll call it foobar.com) and I
 intend on hosting it publicly from my home server, 

Re: [gentoo-user] djbdns setup questions

2003-11-19 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 19 November 2003 17:50, Tom Caudron wrote:
 Well, a month later and I'm back to working on this dns problem.

 I tried to follow Mike's advice (found below), but I ran in to a
 problem.  When I emerged djbdns, it never created anything called
 dnscache.  It only created dnscachex, tinydns, and axfrdns.  And unlike
 every other reference I've seen/read about, including Mike's below, it
 was put in the /var directory, not the /etc directory.  I doubt the
 directory change is an issue, and since I don't really care about acting
 as a proxy dns to my internal network, I'm not sure I need dnscache, but
 I could be wrong on both counts.

I don't believe there is actually any difference between dnscache and 
dnscachex, really. It's just a naming convention.
The /var vs /etc thing, that's weird. But so long as the links into /service 
are right, and the ...{tinydns,dnscache(x)}/env/ROOT are correct, it doesn't 
matter.
If you are only serving your own DNS out to the world, you don't actually need 
dnscache.
I've never had a need to do zone transfer with djbdns so can't help with 
axfrdns.

 Anyway, it still won't work.  :(

Is listening on the network properly?
'netstat -nlp'

 I've added the domain and its aliases to the system using tinydns's
 add-host and add-alias.  For simplicity's sake, let's say my IP is
 1.2.3.4 and my domain is foobar.com.  Here is the output I get when I

[snip]

 And that continues for a while, trying different permutations, like
 localhost.foobar.com or www.foobar.com.localdomain, etc

try 'dig @127.0.0.1 www.foobar.com', or 'host www.foobar.com 127.0.0.1'
Replace 127.0.0.1 with the IP tiny is listening on.

 I've registered my machine/ip as a valid dns (and I get dns requests all
 the time, but the above mentioned udp error suggests to me that they
 aren't be fulfilled) and I've got apache set up to give me a domain back
 (it works on another hosted domain that uses an external authoritative
 dns server for discovery).

 Does anyone have a clue as to what could be the problem?  Any help would
 be appreciated.  :)

Not really :)
Dan isn't exactly forgiving with configuration errors, or helpful with 
diagnosing.

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RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA HDD

2003-11-19 Thread Tracy LCpl Derek E
Ok I got it working now but the problem is it only shows up as 2.1 gigs and
it is a 5 gig device is that because there are 2 gigs worth of info stored
on it right now or is it really only going to let me use 2 gigs?

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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:34 PM
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Subject: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA HDD


Does anyone know how to get a 5gig PCMCIA HDD working on the 2.6.0-test9
kernel?  I have emerged pcmcia-cs and still do not know how to get it
working.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Luke Scharf
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 11:50, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
 This is a political question. We know how gentoo runs, most, if not
 all, can care less how developers argue about getting something in
 some contract as long as gentoo runs and ebuilds come out when they
 should.

This is how I feel as well.  I like Open Source because I can use my
computer much more effectively -- and because I think the GPL is a fair
deal.

I'd prefer to avoid the politics if I can.  I don't care.  I just want
quality tools to do my job, or to play with if I'm in the mood.

-Luke

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome session changes...

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Farmer
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:18:09 -0800, Andrei Ivanov muttered:
 I'm having some trouble convincing gnome not to save changes to the 
 session.
 
 By default, gnome saves the changes, so if I logout of gnome with some 
 programs running, when I logon the next time it starts them again.
 
 So I closed all the applications and logged out, and then I logged in 
 again (no applications were started automatically... good).
 I disabled Applications- Desktop preferences- Advanced- Session 
 Options:  Automatically save changes to session and logged out.
 
 But when I logged in, the Sessions configuration dialog appeared, and, 
 after it, Nautilus also started and this happens now every time... :(
 
 What can I do ?

One way to fix this would be to log out, log in on a VT, and delete
.gnome2/session -- this'll clear anything you have saved for the session.

 Btw: why can't I use the `win` key on my keyboard as a shortcut ? (it 
 seems gnome doesn't see the key press)

You may have to mess with xmodmap.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

2003-11-19 Thread Sergey V. Spiridonov
Sven Vermeulen wrote:

No problem. As opposed to some ideas that are floating here I do not care
what your motives are to ask this. Every question is a valid one, and
although I don't know everything I just try to reply to my best effort.
Thanks, I see.

Everybody can propose a change to the social contract.

If you mean if someone has the access to the social contract, then all people
involved with the website can, but they aren't allowed to unless they have
the managers' consent.
I meant, if managers discuss and vote for some amendment to Social 
Contract,  will they be able to carry out it?
Are they entitled to do such things?
As far as I understood, anyone can propose a change. Who is entitled to 
accept it?
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[gentoo-user] What is the best way to start iptables on boot time?

2003-11-19 Thread Tiago Lima



Hi,

Sorry for this newbie question but what is the 
"best" way to start iptables (and rules)on boot time?

Thanks in advance,
 Tiago Lima



Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way to start iptables on boot time?

2003-11-19 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 19:59, Tiago Lima wrote:
 Hi,
  
 Sorry for this newbie question but what is the best way to start
 iptables (and rules) on boot time?
  
 Thanks in advance,
 Tiago Lima

Set up your rules how you want them manually, then:

# /etc/init.d/iptables save
# rc-update add iptables default

and they will be restored when you reboot.

Personally, I prefer gshield from portage, works fine for my needs.

 
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