[gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
Hello, Last time I tried to upgrade my kernel I botched it somehow. I would like to upgrade from 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 to r8 and move my r7 .config settings into the new r8 kernel. I used Genkernel to compile last time and this time I would like to manually do this for learning experience. I found the following on Gentoo web forum and just wanted someone to take a look at this and tell me if this is outdated or still in its correctedness. It also looks as though its missing some steps concerning System.map. Can someone please confirm the following steps. And whether or not after step 11 I should cp System.map to /boot I also don't have anything referencing bizImage linux directory tree. Maybe its because I used Genkernel last time? I'm running a PIII 667EB coppermine processor. * If you wish to maintain as much of your old kernel configuration as possible when installing your new kernel, copy /usr/src/linux/.config to your new kernel tree (1), then switch to the base source directory (2) then delete the symlink pointing to linux (3) and re-link linux to your new kernel tree (4), now enter your new linux directory (5) and run make oldconfig (6) - this attempts to preserve existing kernel configurations - you will be prompted to make choices regarding new kernel options (and if you don't know whether or not to enable some option, simply pressing return usually selects No. Once you have completed this step, then you should run make menuconfig (or make xconfig) (7) and then carefully look over the sections involved in selecting file systems, printer setup, usb setup and possible scsi emulation-the time spent here can save much time and many needed re-compiles later. After you have finished configuring the kernel, you must compile and install your new kernel. (8-17) (in step format:) [1] cp /usr/src/linux/.config /usr/src/linux-2.x.xx-yy/.config [2] cd /usr/src [3] rm linux [4] ln -s linux-2.x.xx-yy linux [5] cd /usr/src/linux [6] make oldconfig [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install **My Comments** shouldn't this be make dep make clean bizImage modules modules_install ?? And don't I wan't to cd to the new 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 kernel tree before issuing this step 8 command? [9] mount /boot (where /boot is an entry in your /etc/fstab, which should [normally not be mounted during normal use) [10] mv /boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.old [11] cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage [12] edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add an entry for your new kernel and replace the reference to bzImage in your previous kernel entry to point to the deprecated kernel file (bzImage.old) [13] if you are using nvidia- emerge nivdia-kernel [14] if you are using alsa - emerge alsa-driver [15] edit /etc/modules.autoload to reflect any changes in modules to be auto loaded [16] unmount /boot (ie. umount /boot) [17] shutdown -hr now and voila you new kernel entry should appear in the grub menu waiting to be tried Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ITeX PCI ADSL modem
I have an ITeX PCI ADSL modem. Has anyone succeeded in getting one of these to work under Gentoo? If so, with which kernel and which driver? Which protocol do you use? (My connection is protocol T1.143 / 1577--classical IP over ATM.) TIA, -- *Martin Polley *Technical Communicator +972 (53) 864280 ** -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
- Original Message - From: Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade Hello, Last time I tried to upgrade my kernel I botched it somehow. I would like to upgrade from 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 to r8 and move my r7 .config settings into the new r8 kernel. I used Genkernel to compile last time and this time I would like to manually do this for learning experience. No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the subject of a security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us encountered bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the time being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option. Regards. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 03:38, Dennis Robertson wrote: No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the subject of a security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us encountered bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the time being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option. Please don't recommend staying with a kernel that has a root exploit. I'd rather have a bug than get rooted. gentoo-2.4.20-r9 and gentoo-2.4.22-r1 are both patched with the fix, as is the latest version of every other kernel sources package in portage. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
TOP POSTING this one: Ahhh.. Thanks Dennis. I will hold-off on upgrading then. Much appreciated. I would still like to get some confirmation on the info from my original posting (the one before this) from any of the seasoned kernel hackers out there please. Thanks, Joshua Banks --- Dennis Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade Hello, Last time I tried to upgrade my kernel I botched it somehow. I would like to upgrade from 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 to r8 and move my r7 .config settings into the new r8 kernel. I used Genkernel to compile last time and this time I would like to manually do this for learning experience. No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the subject of a security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us encountered bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the time being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option. Regards. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
--- Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 03:38, Dennis Robertson wrote: No doubt you'll get more informed comment than I can provide on the upgrading process. However, you should be aware that -r8 is the subject of a security warning recommending upgrade to -r9. Quite a few of us encountered bugs with -r9 so I would recommend you stay where you are for the time being, until there is a bug-free upgrade option. Please don't recommend staying with a kernel that has a root exploit. I'd rather have a bug than get rooted. So, does -r7 suffer from the same root exploit? gentoo-2.4.20-r9 and gentoo-2.4.22-r1 are both patched with the fix, as is the latest version of every other kernel sources package in portage. Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 05:10, Joshua Banks wrote: --- Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't recommend staying with a kernel that has a root exploit. I'd rather have a bug than get rooted. So, does -r7 suffer from the same root exploit? Yes, everything below -r9 does. gentoo-2.4.20-r9 and gentoo-2.4.22-r1 are both patched with the fix, as is the latest version of every other kernel sources package in portage. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] illegal instruction attempting to run emerge
I upgraded the kernel on my mail server (P233-MMX) from gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r8 to gs-sources-2.4.23-pre8, then afterwards emerge'd a binary gcc package compiled on my desktop machine. I rebooted to load the new kernel, and was going to finish 'emerge -u world' but emerge died with Illegal instruction. I rebooted back into my original kernel, and tried emerge and got the same thing, so I am assuming it is something wrong with gcc. I compiled gcc on my desktop machine with (the env variables are the same as what's in the mail server's make.conf): # export CHOST=i586-pc-linux-gnu # export CFLAGS=-O3 -mcpu=pentium-mmx -funroll-loops -pipe # emerge -B gcc Then on the mail server, I had to create /usr/portage/packages, /usr/portage/packages/All, and /usr/portage/packages/sys-devel. I copied the build file to packages/All then make a sym. link from packages/sys-devel to packages/All then did 'emerge -K gcc' emerge completed w/o error gcc itself seems to work ok.. If I can't find a solution, how would I revert back to the old gcc w/o emerge!?! does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Aaron -- /usr/bin/fortune says: Every silver lining has a cloud around it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Multiple Nic's.
--- Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- quoting Joshua Banks -- Thanks Matthias. you're welcome ;) please report if you succeeded with your 2nd NIC! Pretty painless once all the research was done. The most confusing part was the fact that my nic card read as being a model 3c905 and this wasn't a given choice in: /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/drivers/net Alittle google'ing helped figure that confusion out. 1) Added/edited 3c59x to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4 2) cd /etc/init.d 3) cp net.eth0 net.eth1 4) Manually added new interface ifconfig eth1 (ip-address) broadcast (broadcast address) netmask (netmask address) No need for a gateway address as of now. So I didn't use route add to add the default gateway yet. 5) Edited /etc/conf.d/net to add eth1's interface info. 6) rc-update add net.eth1 default 7) Edited Shorewall/firewall interfaces file, to make it aware of the newly added interface. 8) Verified ping connectivity and new eth1 interface statistics via ifconfig eth1. 9) Set eth1 link speed to 100Mb-HD via mii-diag -F 080 eth1. Was set to full duplex. Not sure why that happened since eth1 and eth0 are plugged into a 10/100 hub and I'm not using patch cables that I don't believe would support Full-Duplex anyways. 10) Reboot to varify everything works after reboot via shutdown -ar 11) Pointed internal Windows machines to the new eth1 interface for their DG's for internet access. Dialed-up and all internal machines were able to gateway through eth1ppp0intenet Success.. Wahoo... Now I just sit and wait (with anticipation) for Comcast to turn on the 3Mb-down/385KB-up switch.and say bye-bye to my clunketty dial-up. Although dial-up is slower than crap, it works well and I will always be able to fall back on it when Comcast isn't working correctly. Which I here, happens allot with Cable internet access. To all who responded to this thread, Thanks for your support/comments :D Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ATI TV out
hi, your XF86Config worked :-D now I can see my gnome desktop on my TV. I will try to merge with mine I have with ServerLayouts. How can I switch automatically from one ServerLayout to another? is that possible? But I still have a problem :-( that is when I watch a movie with MPlayer It gives nothing. This is a normal behaviour but where can I switch this to work? In Windowz I had to go to display properties. thanx On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 23:22, Michael Mauch wrote: Helder Rossa wrote: I have my acer tm800 working with 2.6 kernel. All runs very good. What's its video chipset? but I cant put TV out working. It gives me an black white garble image. Maybe some refresh settings are wrong. hi. i have the same laptop. kernel-2.6 this is how i got tvout working: i use the binary drivers from ati (emerge ati-drivers). start fglrxconfig to generate an XF86Config file. when he asks you, say yes to tv-out. the mode i got it working is this: clone mode (so the same thing is displayed on both screens), and the TV had to be the primary, and the LCD the secondary screen. after that it was only a matter of connecting the svideo out to my TV, and it worked. (i think i had to switch the displaying to the TV with Fn-key + F5 (or F6, i don't remember which switches the display :-). i attached my XF86Config, that is set up for TV-OUT (i only use this file when i want to watch something on the TV. for normal use, i use a different XF86Config), hope it helps. bye, gabor __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge kdevelop gives me an error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi to anyone, I'm trying to install kdevelop, but net-libs/libwww gives me this error while compiling creating wwwconf.h cd . aclocal cd . automake --foreign --include-deps Makefile cd . autoconf aclocal.m4:267: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion autoconf/c.m4:1180: AC_C_VOLATILE is expanded from... aclocal.m4:267: the top level autom4te-2.58: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 make: *** [configure] Error 1 !!! ERROR: net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r2 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 59, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) This package also conflicts with dev-libs/9libs, so I uninstalled it.. Can anyone understand the problem and help me? Thanks!! Mauro -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE/2FJwbDc1RiYuWJgRAp4uAJdLpoEyMQFD0ATCmqTnr2zrzVbfAJ9rHRTU C7mR7JrdSv7u9ElH917h4w== =Hn3F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution 1.5 on Gentoo
1.5? I'm assuming this is a development version as www.ximian.com reports 1.4.5 as the latest release. You can get 1.4.5 from portage anyway. I do not recommend trying evolution's development versions, unless you have a red-carpet supported system, in my experience it is dependency hell (some of their test packages break other gnome programs). On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 19:54, Goran Kavrecic wrote: I've downloaded Evolution 1.5 and tried to compile it on Gentoo 1.4 Gnome 2.4 Package Version Evolution 1.5 Gtkhtml 3.1.4 Gal 2.1.1 Evolution Data Server 0.0.3 Libsoup 2.1.2 It compiled libsoup ok, the configure failed on gtkhtml due missing enough new gal, but gal stopped due missing XML parser for perl: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool Or maybe it misses perl for XML-parser? How do I get it? Regards, Goran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- __ Guy Van Sanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technisch beheerder http://www.hoogspanning.be PGP KeyID: 28F16C35 http://users.pandora.be/guyness/gvs/gvs.asc Fingerprint: 7436 65AE 8B18 6995 9D63 ED2B D670 A283 28F1 6C35 Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] rc-update with dhcp interface?
Hello, I've just added another nic card and statically assigned the address and used rc-update add net.eth1 default and added the eth1 interface/address info in /etc/conf.d/net. This works fine right now with a static address. 2 questions: 1) Eth1 will be connected to a cable modem and will need to be using dhcp to get its interface/gateway info. So do I just simply edit the /etc/conf.d/net settings when the time comes to change from static to dhcp and the eth1 interface will automatically revert to using dhcp settings or do I need to do something otherwise? 2) Having added eth1 to the default run-level via rc-update, will switching the interface to dhcp (versus it being statically addressed now) have an effect or not? If so, what (if simple) do I need to do? Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:37:07 -0500 Tom Hosiawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I tried that, I get: emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to satisfy dev-python/PyXML. I just got the same message for a different package. I found out that its ebuild was already removed from portage. Fortunately, i was able to find it in gentoo's cvs attic. :) -- /~\ The ASCIIAndrej Ticho Kacian andrej at kacian dot sk \ / Ribbon Campaign GnuPG public key ID: 7CD93FE2 (pgp.mit.edu) X Against HTML Key fingerprint: / \ Email! E87D 9DEF 2A23 6FFB 7AD9 542F 4253 3A46 7CD9 3FE2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Wierd crashes (progress?)
For those of you that have been following my problems with my unexplained crashes, I seem to be making progress. All of the suggestions made by people on the list have been considered and most tried but none provided a cause. I've started to turn things off on my system. Logic told me that there may be some problem related to my nforce2 chipset so I turned off all network related services. This proved uneffective. The board also has onboard sound, so I killed artsd and speechd and the box is up 36 hours at this point. This is 8 hours longer than any period since mid November, and about 30 hours longer than normal. If the box stays up another 24 hours I will rebuild artsd and retest. Thanks again to all who have offered advice. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] PHP-GTK
Has anyone had any luck emerging php-gtk I keep getting configure not found and something about 'phpize' which I have no clue that is. All that I want to do is play around with learning php by creating gtk programs with it. Does anyone have any advice concerning this. Derek -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: esd not starting
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: I'm having a problem with my sound configuration. I'm using the i810_audio kernel module, which is the correct one for my sound (I've used it before). It get loaded properly at boot, I can use the Gnome volume control, and my system beeps are sound-card generated instead of pc-speaker beeps. The volume control changes the system beep volume, although max volume-control doesn't make it very loud. I have /etc/init.d/esound installed into /etc/runlevels/default. The boot sequence shows that it gets started successfully. But none of my apps (ayttm, savagedemo) actually play any sounds (except those system beeps in the console). A quick look at `ps -A` doesn't show esd or esound anywhere. `killall esd` and `killall esound` result in No processes stopped'. When I try to start it with `/etc/init.d/esound start', I get a message saying it's already started. `/etc/init.d/esound stop` gives esound stopped... followed by a [!!]. Retrying the `start` command after that still results in a message saying it's already started. Manually running `esd` says that /dev/dsp is busy, even though I'm not running anything that's using it. I'm in the 'audio' group. Oops, OSS sound support wasn't enabled in the kernel. That explains that... -- Joel Konkle-Parker Webmaster [Ballsome.com] Phone [+1 662-518-1636] E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] PHP-GTK
More specifically : make: phpize: Command not found make: *** [buildmk.stamp] Error 127 /usr/sbin/ebuild.sh: line 40:phpize: command not found !!! ERROR: dev-php/php-gtk-1.0.0.0 failed. !!! Function econf, Line 340, Exitcode 1 !!! no configure script found That is what # USE=gtk ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge php-gtk Puts out. -Original Message- From: Tracy Cpl Derek E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] PHP-GTK Has anyone had any luck emerging php-gtk I keep getting configure not found and something about 'phpize' which I have no clue that is. All that I want to do is play around with learning php by creating gtk programs with it. Does anyone have any advice concerning this. Derek -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 07:31, Joshua Banks wrote: [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install **My Comments** shouldn't this be make dep make clean bizImage Here the way I did it. make dep clean bzImage make install /// make install will copy the new kernel (vmlinuz)and system.map to /boot and also rename the old version to .old. With a bonus it's also copy your config file to /boot too. make modules make modules_install Then edit you grub or lilo as needed. Vanh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] python2.3 and portage...
Jon Ellis wrote: I have just installed python2.3 and I am having problems emerging libraries for both python2.2 and 2.3. For example, I need pyGTK installed for both 2.2 and 2.3. If I emerge it with /usr/bin/python linked to python2.3, it will remove the pyGTK libraries from python2.2 every time I emerge clean. Is there any way to keep pyGTK installed for both 2.2 and 2.3? TIA If both versions are incompatible, why is it that they aren't in different slots? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PHP-GTK
Le Jeudi, 11 Décembre 2003 14.00, Tracy Cpl Derek E a écrit : More specifically : make: phpize: Command not found make: *** [buildmk.stamp] Error 127 /usr/sbin/ebuild.sh: line 40:phpize: command not found maybe you should install php-core. or recompile it? # qpkg -f /usr/bin/phpize dev-php/php-core * -- mathieu perrenoud -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] python2.3 and portage...
Le Jeudi, 11 Décembre 2003 14.05, Lucas Sallovitz a écrit : Jon Ellis wrote: I have just installed python2.3 and I am having problems emerging libraries for both python2.2 and 2.3. For example, I need pyGTK installed for both 2.2 and 2.3. If I emerge it with /usr/bin/python linked to python2.3, it will remove the pyGTK libraries from python2.2 every time I emerge clean. Is there any way to keep pyGTK installed for both 2.2 and 2.3? TIA If both versions are incompatible, why is it that they aren't in different slots? they are not? # grep SLOT python-2.*ebuild python-2.1.3-r1.ebuild:SLOT=2.1 python-2.2.1-r5.ebuild:SLOT=2.2 python-2.2.2.ebuild:SLOT=2.2 python-2.2.3-r1.ebuild:SLOT=2.2 python-2.2.3-r5.ebuild:SLOT=2.2 python-2.2.3.ebuild:SLOT=2.2 python-2.3.2-r2.ebuild:SLOT=2.3 -- mathieu perrenoud -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
Mea culpa. I'll simply practice what I preach and shut up about it. - Original Message - From: Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Solved: rp-pppoe
Dennis Freise wrote: Looks like you're missing some kernel-modules. Try settings these values in your kernel .config: CONFIG_PPP_ASYNC=m I've just activated the following option: 'PPP support for async serial ports' I guess this is equal to CONFIG_PPP_ASYNC ? That solved the puzzle. I didn't need to activate the CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY option for my dsl connection. However, without your help I'm sure that I never had the idea to activate that option. The kernel config help says: 'Say Y (or M) here if you want to be able to use PPP over standard asynchronous serial ports, such as COM1 or COM2 on a PC. If you use a modem (not a synchronous or ISDN modem) to contact your ISP, you need this option.' I've not used a serial port on any of my boxes at least for the last 5 years... I've been surfing thru' PPP and PPPOE guides, manuals FAQs around the globe, and i couldn't find that hint anywhere, including roaring penguine's rp-pppoe site. This is what i call a real beginner trap. For the next days, better don't hand a pump-gun to me.. :) However, thank you very much for the solution, i don't know what i'd do without this mailing list.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] again: rp-pppoe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Network device support --- ... M PPP (point-to-point protocol) support [*] PPP filtering M PPP over Ethernet (EXPERIMENTAL) I couldn't find an option like 'PPP filtering' (kernel v 2.4.20-gentoo-r9), but, however, the problem is solved now ( --- previous msg) Thank you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] again: rp-pppoe
Oliver Lange wrote: Network device support --- ... M PPP (point-to-point protocol) support [*] PPP filtering M PPP over Ethernet (EXPERIMENTAL) I couldn't find an option like 'PPP filtering' (kernel v 2.4.20-gentoo-r9), but, however, the problem is solved now ( --- previous msg) as said in the original post : it's only (?!) needed for firewalling to have the option you have to select: Network packet filtering in the networking options I think you will need a firewall soon ... but it's your choise and yes, T-DSL is a variant of ADSL Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wierd crashes (progress?)
On Thursday 11 Dec 2003 12:40, Ernie Schroder wrote: For those of you that have been following my problems with my unexplained crashes, I seem to be making progress. All of the suggestions made by people on the list have been considered and most tried but none provided a cause. I hope you find the cause soon Ernie. My problem with losing the mouse (and occasionally the keyboard) is, I think (prays), now fixed. I thought it was due to wine/winex, because it was that that triggered it, but then I noticed I was unable to mount some (not all) nfs partitions because of server denied permission. This didn't make sense, so I booted into memtest86 and instantly found one of my DIMMs was failing badly. Since I put new memory in it's been OK. Peter -- == Gentoo Linux: Portage 2.0.49-r18 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r3, 2.6.0-test11-gentoo-r1-win4lin) i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ == -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wierd crashes (progress?)
On Thursday 11 December 2003 21:40, Ernie Schroder wrote: For those of you that have been following my problems with my unexplained crashes, I seem to be making progress. All of the suggestions made by people on the list have been considered and most tried but none provided a cause. I've started to turn things off on my system. Logic told me that there may be some problem related to my nforce2 chipset so I turned off all network related services. This proved uneffective. The board also has onboard sound, so I killed artsd and speechd and the box is up 36 hours at this point. This is 8 hours longer than any period since mid November, and about 30 hours longer than normal. If the box stays up another 24 hours I will rebuild artsd and retest. Thanks again to all who have offered advice. I doubt that it would be the problem given today's modern hardware, but pre-PCI days hardware conflicts could often cause intermittent crashes. However, it was usually with more frequency than what you're describing. Anyway, have you tried actually taking out all but necessary hardware (and possibly replacing anything else) and testing. If you can pinpoint it down to a specific piece of hardware, you can continue to test with drivers and such to confirm if it is a hardware or software problem and so on. Regards, Jason Stubbs -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird after upgrade to 0.7-r1
I upgraded mozilla-firebird over night and when trying to start it this morning it just died. No error output what so ever. Anyone else experiencing this? And more important: Anyone have a fix for it? Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird after upgrade to 0.7-r1
Try renaming or deleting the ~/.phoenix directory - this is where you preferences are stored so renaming it would be best. Tried it, but it didn't work after that either. Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
Hi, Why is emerge telling my it wants to install alsa-driver 0.9.8 when I have 1.0.0rc2 installed? It's strange that it's doing this only for the driver file and not the rest of Alsa: Wizard root # emerge -Up world --upgradeonly implies --update... adding --update to options. These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.75-r1 [0.99.75] [ebuild N] media-sound/alsa-driver-0.9.8 Wizard root # emerge -s alsa-driver Searching... [ Results for search key : alsa-driver ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * media-sound/alsa-driver Latest version available: 0.9.8 Latest version installed: 1.0.0_rc2 Size of downloaded files: 1,608 kB Homepage:http://www.alsa-project.org/ Description: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture kernel modules I looked at /var/cache/edb/virtuals and didn't spot anything, but maybe I'm missing something obvious. Is there another file that does something similar to this? virtual/blackbox x11-wm/openbox x11-wm/fluxbox virtual/xft x11-base/xfree virtual/cron sys-apps/dcron sys-apps/console-tools sys-apps/kbd virtual/ssh net-misc/openssh virtual/drm x11-base/xfree-drm virtual/editor app-editors/vim app-editors/vi app-editors/nano virtual/inetd sys-apps/xinetd sys-apps/netkit-base virtual/x11 x11-base/xfree virtual/jdk dev-java/blackdown-jdk virtual/cdrtools app-cdr/cdrtools virtual/lpr net-print/cups virtual/java-scheme dev-java/blackdown-jdk dev-java/blackdown-jre virtual/bootloader sys-boot/grub virtual/os-headers sys-kernel/linux-headers virtual/kernel sys-kernel/linux-headers virtual/python dev-lang/python virtual/glibc sys-libs/glibc virtual/aspell-dict app-dicts/aspell-en virtual/modutils sys-apps/module-init-tools sys-apps/modutils virtual/motif x11-libs/openmotif virtual/opengl x11-base/xfree virtual/jre dev-java/blackdown-jdk dev-java/blackdown-jre virtual/linux-sources sys-kernel/gentoo-sources virtual/glu x11-base/xfree virtual/textbrowser net-www/lynx virtual/jack media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit virtual/logger app-admin/sysklogd virtual/glut media-libs/glut virtual/mta net-mail/ssmtp Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird after upgrade to 0.7-r1
Patrick Börjesson wrote: Try renaming or deleting the ~/.phoenix directory - this is where you preferences are stored so renaming it would be best. Tried it, but it didn't work after that either. Patrick Börjesson did you delete the chrome directory in /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird? Sometimes this directory can cause problems when upgrading. If you delete it it will be rebuilt the next time you launch firebird. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
Because the driver is not unmasked. Just ignore emerge. It really wants to downgrade since the unmasked version is lower. I'm seeing it too every time I do a emerge -uD world -p so I ignore it. You can fix it by editing the ebuild and taking the ~x86 out of the KEYWORDS entry. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:23:11 -0800 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Why is emerge telling my it wants to install alsa-driver 0.9.8 when I have 1.0.0rc2 installed? It's strange that it's doing this only for the driver file and not the rest of Alsa: Wizard root # emerge -Up world --upgradeonly implies --update... adding --update to options. These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.75-r1 [0.99.75] [ebuild N] media-sound/alsa-driver-0.9.8 Wizard root # emerge -s alsa-driver Searching... [ Results for search key : alsa-driver ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * media-sound/alsa-driver Latest version available: 0.9.8 Latest version installed: 1.0.0_rc2 Size of downloaded files: 1,608 kB Homepage:http://www.alsa-project.org/ Description: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture kernel modules I looked at /var/cache/edb/virtuals and didn't spot anything, but maybe I'm missing something obvious. Is there another file that does something similar to this? virtual/blackbox x11-wm/openbox x11-wm/fluxbox virtual/xft x11-base/xfree virtual/cron sys-apps/dcron sys-apps/console-tools sys-apps/kbd virtual/ssh net-misc/openssh virtual/drm x11-base/xfree-drm virtual/editor app-editors/vim app-editors/vi app-editors/nano virtual/inetd sys-apps/xinetd sys-apps/netkit-base virtual/x11 x11-base/xfree virtual/jdk dev-java/blackdown-jdk virtual/cdrtools app-cdr/cdrtools virtual/lpr net-print/cups virtual/java-scheme dev-java/blackdown-jdk dev-java/blackdown-jre virtual/bootloader sys-boot/grub virtual/os-headers sys-kernel/linux-headers virtual/kernel sys-kernel/linux-headers virtual/python dev-lang/python virtual/glibc sys-libs/glibc virtual/aspell-dict app-dicts/aspell-en virtual/modutils sys-apps/module-init-tools sys-apps/modutils virtual/motif x11-libs/openmotif virtual/opengl x11-base/xfree virtual/jre dev-java/blackdown-jdk dev-java/blackdown-jre virtual/linux-sources sys-kernel/gentoo-sources virtual/glu x11-base/xfree virtual/textbrowser net-www/lynx virtual/jack media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit virtual/logger app-admin/sysklogd virtual/glut media-libs/glut virtual/mta net-mail/ssmtp Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird after upgrade to 0.7-r1
Then it's broke G. Don't know what else to tell you. Try running it from a terminal window and see what messages you get. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:18:08 +0100 Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try renaming or deleting the ~/.phoenix directory - this is where you preferences are stored so renaming it would be best. Tried it, but it didn't work after that either. Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird after upgrade to 0.7-r1
Try renaming or deleting the ~/.phoenix directory - this is where you preferences are stored so renaming it would be best. Tried it, but it didn't work after that either. did you delete the chrome directory in /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird? Sometimes this directory can cause problems when upgrading. If you delete it it will be rebuilt the next time you launch firebird. I moved my ~/.phoenix and /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird/chrome to somewhere else. After that I tried starting MozillaFirebird, but this resulted in an immediate crash directly after the generation of my ~/.phoenix directory. It didn't go as far as regenerating /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird/chrome. Before I tried removing the chrome directory MozillaFirebird at least showed me a window for a short momemt before crashing. Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] MTA with my special features wanted
Hello folks, I am looking for an MTA with the following special features. The most important thing is that it is easy configurable, i.e. I do not really want hacking sendmail.cf style. 1) No local masquerading Local mails in the local domain must not be rewritten with my account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The From-address must be untouched. I had this feature already in the past with sendmail. But in newer versions the sendmail.cf and the masquerading-feature changed a bit and so it is not working again. And I am not the crazy guy, who dreams all night from sendmail.cf. 2) Per-user SMARTHOST and masquerading configuration I want to use a per-user SMARTHOST configuration. User tomtom sends via gmx.de and with masqueraded From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the outside world. Another user uses another account. 3) To-dependent SMARTHOST and masquerading configuration Is it possible, that the configuration as mentioned in 2) is To-dependent? So, when I write to mailinglist A, config (SMARTHOST and From) A is used, another one, when sending to mailinglist B? Since the time installed linux I am used sendmail. A few weeks ago, I tested postfix, but - erm - my features can't be practiced. (Another issue on postfix: postfix can definitely handle mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] grr). I thought installing qmail, but - my first thought: is it worth the time? So, what are your impressions about existing mta's? Is there a mta, which fulfills all my needs above? Thanks for your ideas and tips, Tom PS: It *would* be an idea, using a highly configurable SMTP-Mailer in Perl, if I would have a faster computer (or lesser mailinglists). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] backup and recovery...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for a new backup recovery system. is there any good tools in portage tree? i like to have a realtime backup and full-system-recovery facility. would you guys recommend me the best tool for backup recovery? non-realtime backup system will be okay too ~ :) thanks... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list there's a tool called mondo rescue that's suposed to be VERY powerfull, but I must say I've never used it, if you are looking for realtime reliability, you should consider some kindo of RAID arrangement -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] System update
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Re: [gentoo-user] again: rp-pppoe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will need a firewall soon ... but it's your choise That's on top of my todo-list. I think that tldp.org will answer all questions, perhaps i'll install shorewall. Just glad to have at least pppoe working (hooray, champaign please :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System update
On Thursday 11 December 2003 16:59, Olli wrote: How I can update all packages with emerge? Do 'emerge system' update all packages, outside base-system? emerge -uD world (or -UD to only update not downgrade) -- Sigurd Stordal master in Petrology/mineralogy President of GOGS Opuscreator VS in DNM95 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] drive timeout
I have only one drive on the raid controller right now but the kernel wants to keep looking for another drive and it takes a LONG time. Is there a way to get it to not keep looking? SiI3112 Serial ATA: IDE controller at PCI slot :02:04.0 SiI3112 Serial ATA: chipset revision 2 SiI3112 Serial ATA: 100% native mode on irq 21 ide2: MMIO-DMA at 0xf8806000-0xf8806007, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio ide3: MMIO-DMA at 0xf8806008-0xf880600f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio hde: ST3120023AS, ATA DISK drive ide2 at 0xf8806080-0xf8806087,0xf880608a on irq 21 hdg: no response (status = 0xfe) hdg: no response (status = 0xfe), resetting drive hdg: no response (status = 0xfe) hde: max request size: 7KiB hde: 234441648 sectors (120034 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(133) /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 Each of those no responses take about a minute to come back. This is a 2.6.0-test10-mm1 kernel but it does the exact same thing on the 2.4 kernels. Also note this is a SATA drive and the only SATA connections on the system board are to the raid controller which doesn't allow disabling just the one drive port. I also seem to have a speed issue and read some stuff on the kernel list about it and noted that someone mentioned the use of libata for this controller and the speed shot up the 60 mb/sec! Here's mine now: ws1 root # hdparm -tT /dev/hde /dev/hde: Timing buffer-cache reads: 2156 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1077.09 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.06 seconds = 20.88 MB/sec ws1 root # Here's my hdparms right now: all_args=-d1 -A1 -m16 -a16 -c3 Just tinkering is all. Nothing has had any effect. I could take them all out and have the same speed test results. Sorry for the 2 parter msg. Thanks for the help! Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System update
emerge -uD system emerge -uD world Try both with the -p option to make sure it will do what you want. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:59:56 +0200 Olli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How I can update all packages with emerge? Do 'emerge system' update all packages, outside base-system? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System update
How I can update all packages with emerge? Do 'emerge system' update all packages, outside base-system? emerge -Du world -vp ^Should show which packages that are going to be updated (remove -vp to do the actual merge), but might miss some if you've unmerged packages... To be sure that all packages will be updated, run the following command instead: emerge -Du `qpkg -I -nc` -vp Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] System update
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:59:56 +0200 Olli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How I can update all packages with emerge? Do 'emerge system' update all packages, outside base-system? snip emerge syncemerge -DUpv world -- Barry Marler Information Analyst II Center for Applied Genetic Technologies University of Georgia Athens, GA USA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird period!
Wtf?! Now I downgraded MozillaFirebird to 0.7 as I couldn't get the 0.7-r1 version to start up, but guess what. The fng application won't start anyway! Plase, someone help me. 0.7 worked for me yesterday... Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] System update
Olli wrote: How I can update all packages with emerge? Do 'emerge system' update all packages, outside base-system? For upgrading *all* packages that are installed on my box, i'm using this one: emerge --oneshot -uU `qpkg -nc -I` -v -p after checking what's going to be installed, enter the same command again, but this time without the -p option. Important: when using this command, never forget the --oneshot option, or you can forget the depclean feature.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Planning for a future crash
IIRC the LiveCD does support ssh. You might have to start the ssh daemon with /etc/init.d/sshd start. Long ago I used it to get the stage 1 tarball from one of my machines to the box that was to be a Gentoo box. Backups: /home/* /etc/* /usr/local/anything you've added here. I'd add /var/cache/edb/world, so you know what packages you had emerged before. -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System update
Patrick Börjesson wrote: emerge -Du `qpkg -I -nc` -vp We already had the same thread 1 or 2 weeks ago. Not using the --oneshot option will *screw up* your world favorites file, so you won't be able to have emerge depclean your system after firing that command. Never tell anyone to use this without adding the --oneshot option. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird period!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This mail won't help you. But this happened to me too, after installing one of the extensions. No warning, no nothing. I emerged mozilla-firebird-bin and lived happily ever after (i didn't want to start another hours of compiling). On Thursday 11 December 2003 18:20, Patrick Börjesson wrote: Wtf?! Now I downgraded MozillaFirebird to 0.7 as I couldn't get the 0.7-r1 version to start up, but guess what. The fng application won't start anyway! Plase, someone help me. 0.7 worked for me yesterday... Patrick Börjesson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/2J5gHMw8JJ+r9ucRAgMCAKCQjPw/xZDeHnN8PI3IGejnryDcSwCeOumF CR8Mmg8V+t9bttZAs+XhSoc= =ouV3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Planning for a future crash
Chris Bare wrote: Backups: /home/* /etc/* /usr/local/anything you've added here. I'd add /var/cache/edb/world, so you know what packages you had emerged before. I'd also add, for example: /root/* - who doesn't change things there ? /var/cache/edb/virtuals (i removed that emacs monster because i don't use it) /usr/src/linux/.config (yeah the kernel config) maybe: /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask (?) and, and, and... - let's see how far this list will grow after some further replies by other readers.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Planning for a future crash
Le Jeudi, 11 Décembre 2003 17.35, Chris Bare a écrit : IIRC the LiveCD does support ssh. You might have to start the ssh daemon with /etc/init.d/sshd start. Long ago I used it to get the stage 1 tarball from one of my machines to the box that was to be a Gentoo box. Backups: /home/* /etc/* /usr/local/anything you've added here. I'd add /var/cache/edb/world, so you know what packages you had emerged before. /var is not another /tmp directory, there are lots of things in it, specially in /var/lib You should definitely not exclude /var from your backups. So keep /var in your backups, but remove /var/log, /var/tmp, /var/run, /var/lock and any other dirs that contain non-persistent files. -- mathieu perrenoud -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
Because the driver is not unmasked. Just ignore emerge. It really wants to downgrade since the unmasked version is lower. I'm seeing it too every time I do a emerge -uD world -p so I ignore it. You can fix it by editing the ebuild and taking the ~x86 out of the KEYWORDS entry. Brett, Your response has all the words I expected to see, but somehow it's not registering in my feeble brain. I assume that all of the Alsa-1.0.0rc2 set of packages are masked. I have all of those packages installed. Why does emerge only mention alsa-driver-0.9.8? Why doesn't it do the same thing for alsa-tools, alsa-utils, etc? Also, what do you mean 'so I ignore it'. I've been ignoring it for a few days thinking that some emerge sync operation would fix it, but it hasn't. My method of ignoring it is to explicitly type in package names (i.e. emerge -U package1 package2 package3) instead of removing the 'p' from emerge -Up world. What is it you do to get around this? Edit all the rc2 ebuilds? I just didn't want the system to emerge 0.9.8 over the top of 1.0.0rc2, which I expect it will do... Thanks very much for the response. Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird period!
What happens when you start it from a command line? Have you checked to see if there is a lock file in .mozill~? Doesn't start does not give enough info to really know what is or isn't happening. What happens when I start it from the command line is the same as when I don't start it from the command line. It doesn't give _any_ information what so ever why it won't start. This is the output: /home/psycho 0 $ MozillaFirebird /home/psycho 11 $ Sure, it gives an error code of 11, but that doesn't make me understand more of why it died on me. When I remove my ~/.phoenix directory (moz-firebird don't use ~/.mozilla) it initializes ~/.phoenix and for a moment shows me a the base window before it dies. If I remove both ~/.phoenix _and_ /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird/chrome (as someone suggested) it initializes ~/.phoenix, but not the chrome directory and it doesn't show the base window as when only removing ~/.phoenix, it just dies. This is with both 0.7 (which worked yesterday) and 0.7-r1 which I upgraded to during the night. Now I have 0.7 installed again as I thought it was 0.7-r1 that was fubared, but it didn't help downgrading it it seems. Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Planning for a future crash
mathieu perrenoud wrote: Le Jeudi, 11 Décembre 2003 17.35, Chris Bare a écrit : /var is not another /tmp directory, there are lots of things in it, specially in /var/lib You should definitely not exclude /var from your backups. So keep /var in your backups, but remove /var/log, /var/tmp, /var/run, /var/lock and any other dirs that contain non-persistent files. Hey I start to realize that this is going to be a science.. I've installed Linux on all my home boxes in the last weeks, still reading manuals for installing this and that; I didn't reach the 'let's write a comprehensive, all-regarding backup script for my network' stage yet. I guess that'll take another week to find out what to backup and what to leave out.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
Because the driver is not unmasked. Just ignore emerge. It really wants to downgrade since the unmasked version is lower. I'm seeing it too every time I do a emerge -uD world -p so I ignore it. You can fix it by editing the ebuild and taking the ~x86 out of the KEYWORDS entry. Brett, Your response has all the words I expected to see, but somehow it's not registering in my feeble brain. I assume that all of the Alsa-1.0.0rc2 set of packages are masked. I have all of those packages installed. Why does emerge only mention alsa-driver-0.9.8? Why doesn't it do the same thing for alsa-tools, alsa-utils, etc? Alsa-driver-1.0.0_rc2 is ~x86, 0.9.8 is ordinary x86. They are slotted depending on your kernel-version. It now seems as the kernel-version has changed since you installed 1.0.0_rc2 and so portage wants to install alsa-driver for your current kernel-version (in a new SLOT) and since you're not running~x86 it wants to install 0.9.8 instead. If you want 1.0.0_rc2 for your current kernel version you should emerge alsa-driver again with~x86, i.e: KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge alsa-driver Also, what do you mean 'so I ignore it'. I've been ignoring it for a few days thinking that some emerge sync operation would fix it, but it hasn't. My method of ignoring it is to explicitly type in package names (i.e. emerge -U package1 package2 package3) instead of removing the 'p' from emerge -Up world. What is it you do to get around this? Edit all the rc2 ebuilds? You might want to try unmasking alsa-driver in /etc/portage/package.unmask also by adding this line into the file: =media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.0_rc2 Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
If I remember correctly not all the alsa-1.0.x are masked so they dont' show up as needing replacement. Another thing we can do is emerge -UD world where U says do not downgrade or it's not supposed to (I hadn't thought of that before). Another option is emerge -i alsa-driver-0.98.ebuild which will fool portage into thinking it's merged and then it will hush. Until Alsa releases 1.0 I don't think it will be fixed. What I do is emerge -uD world -p | more and see what needs to be upgraded that is not Alsa and I want to upgrade. Let me look at it some more this evening in detail. I've just ignored it because my priority was getting Alsa and Winex working. Now it's time for cleanup G. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:49:30 -0800 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the driver is not unmasked. Just ignore emerge. It really wants to downgrade since the unmasked version is lower. I'm seeing it too every time I do a emerge -uD world -p so I ignore it. You can fix it by editing the ebuild and taking the ~x86 out of the KEYWORDS entry. Brett, Your response has all the words I expected to see, but somehow it's not registering in my feeble brain. I assume that all of the Alsa-1.0.0rc2 set of packages are masked. I have all of those packages installed. Why does emerge only mention alsa-driver-0.9.8? Why doesn't it do the same thing for alsa-tools, alsa-utils, etc? Also, what do you mean 'so I ignore it'. I've been ignoring it for a few days thinking that some emerge sync operation would fix it, but it hasn't. My method of ignoring it is to explicitly type in package names (i.e. emerge -U package1 package2 package3) instead of removing the 'p' from emerge -Up world. What is it you do to get around this? Edit all the rc2 ebuilds? I just didn't want the system to emerge 0.9.8 over the top of 1.0.0rc2, which I expect it will do... Thanks very much for the response. Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MTA with my special features wanted
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:49:19 +0100 Thomas Preissler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, I am looking for an MTA with the following special features. The most important thing is that it is easy configurable, i.e. I do not really want hacking sendmail.cf style. 1) No local masquerading Local mails in the local domain must not be rewritten with my account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The From-address must be untouched. I had this feature already in the past with sendmail. But in newer versions the sendmail.cf and the masquerading-feature changed a bit and so it is not working again. And I am not the crazy guy, who dreams all night from sendmail.cf. Exim 2) Per-user SMARTHOST and masquerading configuration I want to use a per-user SMARTHOST configuration. User tomtom sends via gmx.de and with masqueraded From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the outside world. Another user uses another account. Exim again, simple lookup router and a little header rewriting 3) To-dependent SMARTHOST and masquerading configuration Is it possible, that the configuration as mentioned in 2) is To-dependent? So, when I write to mailinglist A, config (SMARTHOST and From) A is used, another one, when sending to mailinglist B? Exim can do that Since the time installed linux I am used sendmail. A few weeks ago, I tested postfix, but - erm - my features can't be practiced. (Another issue on postfix: postfix can definitely handle mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] grr). I thought installing qmail, but - my first thought: is it worth the time? So, what are your impressions about existing mta's? Is there a mta, which fulfills all my needs above? You can do just about anything in exim, and it's far easier to configure than sendmail. -- Yorkshire Dave. Custom rules for spamassassin, detect listwashing tokens http://www.wot.no-ip.com/cgi-bin/detoken.pl -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird period!
I'd suggest unmerge it, clean out all files dealing with it in you home directory - look for other than .phoenix - maybe .mozilla, etc. Then remerge. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:20:14 +0100 Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wtf?! Now I downgraded MozillaFirebird to 0.7 as I couldn't get the 0.7-r1 version to start up, but guess what. The fng application won't start anyway! Plase, someone help me. 0.7 worked for me yesterday... Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
Thanks. I'll go back and see what I have in the ebuilds. I'll also check and see if I did a kernel update - I know I did but not just when I did it. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:10:06 +0100 Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the driver is not unmasked. Just ignore emerge. It really wants to downgrade since the unmasked version is lower. I'm seeing it too every time I do a emerge Alsa-driver-1.0.0_rc2 is ~x86, 0.9.8 is ordinary x86. They are slotted depending on your kernel-version. It now seems as the kernel-version has changed since you installed 1.0.0_rc2 and so portage wants to install alsa-driver for your current kernel-version (in a new SLOT) and since you're not running~x86 it wants to install 0.9.8 instead. If you want 1.0.0_rc2 for your current kernel version you should emerge alsa-driver again with~x86, i.e: KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge alsa-driver Also, what do you mean 'so I ignore it'. I've been ignoring it for a few days thinking that some emerge sync operation would fix it, but it hasn't. My method of ignoring it is to explicitly type in package names (i.e. emerge -U package1 package2 package3) instead of removing the 'p' from emerge -Up world. What is it you do to get around this? Edit all the rc2 ebuilds? You might want to try unmasking alsa-driver in /etc/portage/package.unmask also by adding this line into the file: =media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.0_rc2 Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Semantics of emerge -u (was: System update)
emerge -Du `qpkg -I -nc` -vp We already had the same thread 1 or 2 weeks ago. Not using the --oneshot option will *screw up* your world favorites file, so you won't be able to have emerge depclean your system after firing that command. Never tell anyone to use this without adding the --oneshot option. Oops... =\ But is this really what one should expect from an update? Shouldn't emerge just _not_ modify the world file when one gives the -u flag? Should it be possible at all to add a package to the system through 'emerge -u package name'? Shouldn't portage look first to see if the package is installed and then (if it already is installed) try to upgrade it? At least that's what I expect from an update. I certainly don't expect an upgrade to add the package to my world file if I do the upgrade (without --oneshot) manually. Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
I'm currently using samba to share drives between windows and linux systems. Works okay for the windows systems to see the Linux drives. However, to share between Linux sysetms I need something else. I am considering NFS and noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] resolv.conf
Hi blade, maybe you should check your date and time because evolution is telling me that your mail was received at 2003-12-23 which cannot be right. So myabe you can fix that because this a little bit annoying to me. brgds, Marc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
SNIP Another thing we can do is emerge -UD world where U says do not downgrade or it's not supposed to (I hadn't thought of that before). This is the command I use. If I use emerge -up world then emerge tells me it's going to remove all of 1.0.0rc2 and install 0.9.8. I've currently done emerge -C alsa-driver and have re-emerged alsa-driver using 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge =alsa-driver-1.0.0_rc2'. What seems *very* strange to me right now is that before I did this I executed the command 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -Up =alsa-driver-1.0.0_rc2' which to me says emerge only Updates for exactly the package alsa-drive-1.00_rc2' emerge tells me it's going to do something that looks like an emerge -uD world with a list of 25 items. Is this expected? It wasn't by me... Having now done the re-emerge, the command 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -Up world' says everything is fine and it doesn't need to do the other 24 items it was itching to do 5 minutes ago! Another option is emerge -i alsa-driver-0.98.ebuild which will fool portage into thinking it's merged and then it will hush. I'll read about that. Thanks. I guess everything is fine now, but I don't understand why. (No response required. I spend a lot of my life in that state.) ;-) - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [normal] Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge alsa-driver I think there is a little mistake in here, it should be: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge alsa-driver brgds, Marc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge alsa-driver I think there is a little mistake in here, it should be: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge alsa-driver Yeap, you're of course right. =) Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
I missed that. The D says do dependencies so I would assume it's going to merge stuff that alsa-driver depends on. Someone else gave a good explanation of what is happening. I understand - I'm here but where is here? G. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:40:33 -0800 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP This is the command I use. If I use emerge -up world then emerge tells me it's going to remove all of 1.0.0rc2 and install 0.9.8. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver confusion
KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge alsa-driver I think there is a little mistake in here, it should be: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge alsa-driver brgds, Marc Well, yes but no. I'm typing these emails on a Windows box and sometimes mess up what I wrote in an email, but thanks for pointing that out. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] install: bootstrapping w/NPTL support?
Is it possible to bootstrap with NPTL support? Is there a particular stage1 tarball I need? -chris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Semantics of emerge -u
Patrick Börjesson wrote: But is this really what one should expect from an update? Shouldn't emerge just _not_ modify the world file when one gives the -u flag? Well, i'm really not a gentoo expert (4 weeks ago i didn't know anything about it), but at the moment i fired that command, i saw emerge printing 'adding to world favorites file' Did you examine your world file after firing the mentioned command ? How many entries does your world file contain, and can you remember that you've explicitly emerged all of them ? I just made a test: i've not installed lynx on one of my boxes yet, but since it is always a good idea to have lynx on all linux boxes, i entered the following command: emerge -up lynx then, emerge told me that lynx would be installed as new package [N], then i entered emerge -u lynx After installing the package, it has been added to my world favorites file. You're right, one should expect that an upgrade option shouldn't install new packages from scratch, and i think it also shouldn't add the package to the world favorites file. Maybe someone might fire up a feature request to the portage-ng developers ? After all, it is not a serious desaster if one has got all the stuff added to the world file, but i wanted to have a clean system with no software installed that i don't need, so i edited my world file by hand, but had some trouble remembering all and every package. Eventually, 'emerge depclean' told me about 25 packages that it would uninstall. Fortunately, i frequently used 'emerge depclean', so i knew that these 25 packages would all still be required. So i started researching, but as i got tired at night (after many hours of research), i said to myself 'dammit', and entered 'emerge depclean'. I thought it should be no problem to re-emerge these packages later, but the caveeat is that they're added to the world file then.. Final result: my gnome desktop background picture isn't loaded at gdm startup, my desktop is always empty until i manually specify a new picture, but each time i restart gdm, my desktop is empty again. Everything else works fine, so i can live with it for a while. Somewhen in the future, i'll find out what's going on, but i'll never forget the --oneshot option again.. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
brett holcomb wrote: I'm currently using samba to share drives between windows and linux systems. Works okay for the windows systems to see the Linux drives. However, to share between Linux sysetms I need something else. I am considering NFS and noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each. If you don't copy tons of stuff (gigabytes each day), it might be an option just to install shfs. With this package you can mount your linux boxes into your file system just using ssh. That works very well and if you're also using key authorization, you won't even need to enter a password each time you mount your stuff. The caveeat is that everything gets encrypted at file transfer, at the cost of CPU load, but this is definately the easiest and absolute safest way to share your files. Nobody can ever snoop unencrypted samba passwords, snoop unencrypted data, not even in your LAN. With 100Mbit LAN, i had copying speeds of 5 MB/s (using blowfish instead if 3DES), compared to about 8.5 MB/s using samba. Not the hi-speed solution, but a real good alternative. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
Thanks. I'll check that out. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:27:16 +0100 Oliver Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brett holcomb wrote: else. I am considering NFS and noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each. If you don't copy tons of stuff (gigabytes each day), it might be an option just to install shfs. With this package you can mount your linux boxes into your file system just using ssh. That works very well and if you're also using key authorization, you won't even need to enter a password each time you mount your stuff. The caveeat is that everything gets encrypted at file transfer, at the cost of CPU load, but this is definately the easiest and absolute safest way to share your files. Nobody can ever snoop unencrypted samba passwords, snoop unencrypted data, not even in your LAN. With 100Mbit LAN, i had copying speeds of 5 MB/s (using blowfish instead if 3DES), compared to about 8.5 MB/s using samba. Not the hi-speed solution, but a real good alternative. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
i would say you should try nfs, it supports encryption too, and nfs is REALLY easy to use- On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 18:37, brett holcomb wrote: I'm currently using samba to share drives between windows and linux systems. Works okay for the windows systems to see the Linux drives. However, to share between Linux sysetms I need something else. I am considering NFS and noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
I've used NFS on a VMS/Windows situation a long time ago and it worked well there. I was planning to do NFS but was wondering what OpenAFS might have that would be better. Thanks. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:38:02 +0100 Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would say you should try nfs, it supports encryption too, and nfs is REALLY easy to use- On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 18:37, brett holcomb wrote: I'm currently using samba to share drives between windows and linux systems. Works okay for the windows systems to see the Linux drives. However, to share between Linux sysetms I need something else. I am considering NFS and noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Compiling for another machine?
I would like to use my Pentium 3 (1GHz) to compile gentoo for my Pentium Classic (200MHz). How does this work? Won't there be problems with misdetecting the processor type in /mnt/gentoo/proc as well use when using uname in the chrooted environment? Or does the CHOST setting do some hacks to get around this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] install: bootstrapping w/NPTL support?
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 13:15, Chris Graves wrote: Is it possible to bootstrap with NPTL support? Is there a particular stage1 tarball I need? I believe you'll need to do the bootstrapping under a 2.6 kernel as glibc won't build with nptl without one. I had some difficulties using the experimental 2.6 LiveCD so I just used a regular LiveCD and rebuilt glibc and did an emerge -eD world after the install. Everything is working fine. -- Thanks, Thomas Achtemichuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] What does this crash output mean?
Hia, I have been having a few odd stability problems with one of my gentoo machines. It's a dual PIII500 with 768MB of ram running two SCSI drives in a software RAID 1 array. It had crashed a few times so I used the NMI Watchdog to try and figure out what was going on. Anyhow it's crashed again, this time I got to see the watchdog output Bank 3: b202010a Kernel Panic: CPU Context Corrupt In Idle Task - Not Syncing I've found parts of the error on google... references to various things. The one almost exact match I got was here: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0201.3/0382.html Sometimes the quoted problem is memory, or clock speed. However before I built this instance of Gentoo on there it was running as a Gentoo test machine for quite a while. During that time I ran memcheck and cpu_burn for days. No probelms found and no crashes. Can anyone give me any background on this? Or ideas? Relevent URLs? I'm starting to shoot in the dark here ;) Many thanks. Nick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for another machine?
POLAX wrote: I would like to use my Pentium 3 (1GHz) to compile gentoo for my Pentium Classic (200MHz). How does this work? Won't there be problems with misdetecting the processor type in /mnt/gentoo/proc as well use when using uname in the chrooted environment? Or does the CHOST setting do some hacks to get around this? If you're using the same gcc versions on both machines, you might probably want to install distcc on both machines, then you can always let the fast machine compile for the slow one, no matter what you're compiling. There's a distcc manual on www.gentoo.org. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird period!
Instead of deleting the chrome directory, just empty it. Leave the directory there. I had to do this (per release notes) when I upgraded firebird on a non-gentoo box. Cheers, Kevin brett holcomb wrote: I'd suggest unmerge it, clean out all files dealing with it in you home directory - look for other than .phoenix - maybe .mozilla, etc. Then remerge. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:20:14 +0100 Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wtf?! Now I downgraded MozillaFirebird to 0.7 as I couldn't get the 0.7-r1 version to start up, but guess what. The fng application won't start anyway! Plase, someone help me. 0.7 worked for me yesterday... Patrick Börjesson -- Public key ID: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for another machine?
I would like to use my Pentium 3 (1GHz) to compile gentoo for my Pentium Classic (200MHz). How does this work? Won't there be problems with misdetecting the processor type in /mnt/gentoo/proc as well use when using uname in the chrooted environment? Or does the CHOST setting do some hacks to get around this? I'm currently doing and investigating much the same thing. It's not a 100% fool proof process at the moment (AFAIK). You can view my basic notes here: http://wiki.nickdafish.com/public/Portage Basicly you have to use the USE, CHOST and CFLAGS settings from the 200 on the PIII. That will make sure that portage build compatable packages. This can be done by setting the vars in bash before you launch the emerge or editing your make.conf. The current downfalls that I'm trying to work out how to get around are 1) At build time some ebuilds require code from packages. For example I didn't have svga lib installed on my host system whne I tryed to build links but I did have svgalib enabled with my USE flags because it was installed on the target system. Because I was using -O portage attemted to build links even though a dependancy was missing. Half way through when the link make tryed to source somethign from svgalib it died. Unless I installed svgalib on the host system I could not build links. 2) Some packages effect the local machine in ways you don't expect For example pcmcia-cs, when you install that it fiddles with your kernel (I think) in /usr/src/linux. I'm really not sure that the packaging really copes with that propperly. 3) There was annother problem that excapes me at the moment. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Distcc and OpenMosix
If I install and use OpenMosix does distcc give me any gains. Wouldn't OpenMosix distribute the jobs across the machines or does distcc do some extra stuff just for portage and compiling Gentoo. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Distcc and OpenMosix
brett holcomb wrote: If I install and use OpenMosix does distcc give me any gains. Wouldn't OpenMosix distribute the jobs across the machines or does distcc do some extra stuff just for portage and compiling Gentoo. 1. Some packages are building and then executing sub-makefiles. These sub-makes aren't spawned by emerge itself, so the settings in make.conf aren't used. That means that everything is compiled using a single job again. To avid that, i've added the following line to my .bashrc config: alias make=make -j5 This will always use 5 jobs for every make, including manually compiled stuff. 2. I heard that some packages turn parallel builds off (don't know how they do that). I guess there's no way to enforce it, and probably it won't be a good idea to do so. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start MozillaFirebird period!
I seem to remember having the same problem on my other machine, but the funny thing was that I could run MozillaFirebird as root. If you get the same thing, i.e. that it runs perfectly if run by root, then you've got a problem with file security, and if I just could remember which directory But check the rights around /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird. It's working for me now, at least. Kind Regards, /Magnus -- Familjen Sjölander Värmfors Sölvesborg, Sverige -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 19:44, brett holcomb wrote: I've used NFS on a VMS/Windows situation a long time ago and it worked well there. I was planning to do NFS but was wondering what OpenAFS might have that would be better. i am not sure if this is right, but i have heard that coda is a fork of afs, and i tried coda, but got confused that you had a dir only, which you could share, maybe afs is like that too, but i am not sure, nfs just works perfect for me! :D i hope you get it running good! Thanks. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:38:02 +0100 Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would say you should try nfs, it supports encryption too, and nfs is REALLY easy to use- On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 18:37, brett holcomb wrote: I'm currently using samba to share drives between windows and linux systems. Works okay for the windows systems to see the Linux drives. However, to share between Linux sysetms I need something else. I am considering NFS and noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Distcc and OpenMosix
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 20:43, brett holcomb wrote: If I install and use OpenMosix does distcc give me any gains. Wouldn't OpenMosix distribute the jobs across the machines or does distcc do some extra stuff just for portage and compiling Gentoo. for compiling distcc is much better, openmosix waits with the migration of processes, and aint really meant for this type of stuff, where distcc is made for it. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution 1.5 on Gentoo
I do not recommend trying evolution's development versions, unless you have a red-carpet supported system, in my experience it is dependency hell (some of their test packages break other gnome programs). actually, they say on their site that using any dev version voids you right to support... so if thats the case.. i wouldnt use a dev version if you DO have a support contract... i could be wrong. - Frank On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 19:54, Goran Kavrecic wrote: I've downloaded Evolution 1.5 and tried to compile it on Gentoo 1.4 Gnome 2.4 Package Version Evolution 1.5 Gtkhtml 3.1.4 Gal 2.1.1 Evolution Data Server 0.0.3 Libsoup 2.1.2 It compiled libsoup ok, the configure failed on gtkhtml due missing enough new gal, but gal stopped due missing XML parser for perl: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool Or maybe it misses perl for XML-parser? How do I get it? Regards, Goran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Semantics of emerge -u
* Oliver Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-11 19:20]: You're right, one should expect that an upgrade option shouldn't install new packages from scratch emerge(1) says that -u is 'update' not 'upgrade' - it updates your system to have the latest version of a pkg, i.e. install pkg X version Y unless already installed. and i think it also shouldn't add the package to the world favorites file. The world file lists all pkgs _explicitly_ emerged unless told to leave off. I think it makes more sense to assume that if I do emerge [-u] X then I'm interested in X unless I say otherwise (--oneshot) rather than assuming that I'm not interested unless I say (?--addworld?). Maybe someone might fire up a feature request to the portage-ng developers ? I think a more useful request would be to have an option to update all installed packages (regardless of the world file) other than emerge --oneshot --update A B C D ... [list of installed pkgs] Cheers David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MTA with my special features wanted
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:49:19 +0100 Thomas Preissler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, I am looking for an MTA with the following special features. The most important thing is that it is easy configurable, i.e. I do not really want hacking sendmail.cf style. 1) No local masquerading Local mails in the local domain must not be rewritten with my account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The From-address must be untouched. I had this feature already in the past with sendmail. But in newer versions the sendmail.cf and the masquerading-feature changed a bit and so it is not working again. And I am not the crazy guy, who dreams all night from sendmail.cf. 2) Per-user SMARTHOST and masquerading configuration I want to use a per-user SMARTHOST configuration. User tomtom sends via gmx.de and with masqueraded From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the outside world. Another user uses another account. 3) To-dependent SMARTHOST and masquerading configuration Is it possible, that the configuration as mentioned in 2) is To-dependent? So, when I write to mailinglist A, config (SMARTHOST and From) A is used, another one, when sending to mailinglist B? Since the time installed linux I am used sendmail. A few weeks ago, I tested postfix, but - erm - my features can't be practiced. (Another issue on postfix: postfix can definitely handle mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] grr). I thought installing qmail, but - my first thought: is it worth the time? So, what are your impressions about existing mta's? Is there a mta, which fulfills all my needs above? Take a look at exim, I like it very much, and it's _highly_ configurable. I'm pretty sure you can do all of the things you want with exim, but it will be no piece of cake. Download the very good docs from www.exim.org and _read_ them - I can assure you, it's worth the time. You will (because of your extraordinary wishes) have to read extensive docs for _any_ MTA you choose. HTH, Dennis -- Dennis Freise [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key fingerprint: 2DE8 CCEF 6E20 11D4 3B27 21EC B0BA 1749 D2C8 38ED Get my public key at : http://www.final-frontier.ath.cx/gpg_public_key.txt pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:02PM -0800, Joshua Banks wrote: I found the following on Gentoo web forum and just wanted someone to take a look at this and tell me if this is outdated or still in its correctedness. It also looks as though its missing some steps concerning System.map. Can someone please confirm the following steps. And whether or not after step 11 I should cp System.map to /boot Not sure about that, I do my kernel by hand and I don't copy System.map. Might have to do with using initrd. I also don't have anything referencing bizImage linux directory tree. Maybe its because I used Genkernel last time? bzImage is a file name for the kernel file, it's not a directory. [snip] [1] cp /usr/src/linux/.config /usr/src/linux-2.x.xx-yy/.config [2] cd /usr/src [3] rm linux [4] ln -s linux-2.x.xx-yy linux [5] cd /usr/src/linux [6] make oldconfig [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install **My Comments** shouldn't this be make dep make clean bizImage modules modules_install ?? I usually use make dep make ... but the other command probably works fine too. And don't I wan't to cd to the new 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 kernel tree before issuing this step 8 command? The ln -s command is making linux a link to linux-2.x.xx-yy, so you already did cd there when you did the cd /usr/src/linux [9] mount /boot (where /boot is an entry in your /etc/fstab, which should [normally not be mounted during normal use) [10] mv /boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.old [11] cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage [12] edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add an entry for your new kernel and replace the reference to bzImage in your previous kernel entry to point to the deprecated kernel file (bzImage.old) [13] if you are using nvidia- emerge nivdia-kernel [14] if you are using alsa - emerge alsa-driver [15] edit /etc/modules.autoload to reflect any changes in modules to be auto loaded [16] unmount /boot (ie. umount /boot) [17] shutdown -hr now and voila you new kernel entry should appear in the grub menu waiting to be tried These instructions are almost exactly what I do and it works fine. I would point out that if you previously have run genkernel in a kernel src tree, then you should remove the tree and reemerge it before trying to use it for a manual build. hth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Distcc and OpenMosix
Thanks. I figured there had to be a reason for having both of them. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:52:23 +0100 Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 20:43, brett holcomb wrote: If I install and use OpenMosix does distcc give me any gains. Wouldn't OpenMosix distribute the jobs across the machines or does distcc do some extra stuff just for portage and compiling Gentoo. for compiling distcc is much better, openmosix waits with the migration of processes, and aint really meant for this type of stuff, where distcc is made for it. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
It's bzImage, not bizImage and it's a file. It's the generated kernel. Copy it to /boot and rename it as you please. make dep ... and doing it all on one line are the same. the form just quits after dep it something goes wrong but so will the other. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:19:02 -0800 Wes Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:02PM -0800, Joshua Banks wrote: I found the following on Gentoo web forum and just I also don't have anything referencing bizImage linux directory tree. Maybe its because I used Genkernel last time? bzImage is a file name for the kernel file, it's not a directory. [snip] [1] cp /usr/src/linux/.config /usr/src/linux-2.x.xx-yy/.config [2] cd /usr/src [3] rm linux [4] ln -s linux-2.x.xx-yy linux [5] cd /usr/src/linux [6] make oldconfig [7] make menuconfig or make xconfig [8] make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install **My Comments** shouldn't this be make dep make clean bizImage modules modules_install ?? I usually use make dep make ... but the other command probably works fine too. And don't I wan't to cd to the new 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 kernel tree before issuing this step 8 command? These instructions are almost exactly what I do and it works fine. I would point out that if you previously have run genkernel in a kernel src tree, then you should remove the tree and reemerge it before trying to use it for a manual build. hth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] DHCP interface?
Reposting in the hopes that I get a bite. I've researched this but don't seem to find anything significant that helps answer my 2 questions. JBanks --- Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've just added another nic card and statically assigned the address and used rc-update add net.eth1 default and added the eth1 interface/address info in /etc/conf.d/net. This works fine right now with a static address. 2 questions: 1) Eth1 will be connected to a cable modem and will need to be using dhcp to get its interface/gateway info. So do I just simply edit the /etc/conf.d/net settings when the time comes to change from static to dhcp and the eth1 interface will automatically revert to using dhcp settings or do I need to do something otherwise? 2) Having added eth1 to the default run-level via rc-update, will switching the interface to dhcp (versus it being statically addressed now) have an effect or not? If so, what (if simple) do I need to do? Thanks, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] install: bootstrapping w/NPTL support?
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 19:13, Thomas Achtemichuk wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 13:15, Chris Graves wrote: Is it possible to bootstrap with NPTL support? Is there a particular stage1 tarball I need? I believe you'll need to do the bootstrapping under a 2.6 kernel as glibc won't build with nptl without one. I had some difficulties using the experimental 2.6 LiveCD so I just used a regular LiveCD and rebuilt glibc and did an emerge -eD world after the install. Everything is working fine. As a curiosity, what are the advantages of NPTL? -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP interface?
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 13:35, Joshua Banks wrote: Reposting in the hopes that I get a bite. I've researched this but don't seem to find anything significant that helps answer my 2 questions. JBanks --- Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've just added another nic card and statically assigned the address and used rc-update add net.eth1 default and added the eth1 interface/address info in /etc/conf.d/net. This works fine right now with a static address. 2 questions: 1) Eth1 will be connected to a cable modem and will need to be using dhcp to get its interface/gateway info. So do I just simply edit the /etc/conf.d/net settings when the time comes to change from static to dhcp and the eth1 interface will automatically revert to using dhcp settings or do I need to do something otherwise? Just change it in /etc/conf.d/net like you mentioned. That is all that is needed. 2) Having added eth1 to the default run-level via rc-update, will switching the interface to dhcp (versus it being statically addressed now) have an effect or not? If so, what (if simple) do I need to do? Correct. If you make the change in /etc/conf.d/net it will work as you expect. The file /etc/conf.d/net is nothing more then a place holder for numeric ip values. Adding it via 'rc-update add net.eth1 default' only told gentoo to start that device at boot time, the config is where the acual values come from. All in all you were on the right path to begin with. Jayson Garrell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP interface?
Just change it in /etc/conf.d/net like you mentioned. That is all that is needed. 2) Having added eth1 to the default run-level via rc-update, will switching the interface to dhcp (versus it being statically addressed now) have an effect or not? If so, what (if simple) do I need to do? Correct. If you make the change in /etc/conf.d/net it will work as you expect. The file /etc/conf.d/net is nothing more then a place holder for numeric ip values. Adding it via 'rc-update add net.eth1 default' only told gentoo to start that device at boot time, the config is where the acual values come from. It will only work as you expect if you reboot or restart eth1 manually. To restart it manually do: /etc/init.d/net.eth1 stop /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start That will cause it to go out and get it's new settings via dhcp. -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
Perhaps you could start with explaining why you can't use Samba to share between Linux machines... If you have Samba support compiled into your kernel, you can mount Samba shares as easily as an NFS share. From: brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs? Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:37:35 -0500 I'm currently using samba to share drives between windows and linux systems. Works okay for the windows systems to see the Linux drives. However, to share between Linux sysetms I need something else. I am considering NFS and noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list _ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] install: bootstrapping w/NPTL support?
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 21:46, Tom Wesley wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 19:13, Thomas Achtemichuk wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 13:15, Chris Graves wrote: Is it possible to bootstrap with NPTL support? Is there a particular stage1 tarball I need? I believe you'll need to do the bootstrapping under a 2.6 kernel as glibc won't build with nptl without one. I had some difficulties using the experimental 2.6 LiveCD so I just used a regular LiveCD and rebuilt glibc and did an emerge -eD world after the install. Everything is working fine. As a curiosity, what are the advantages of NPTL? OK, to reply to myself, I have Googled a little. It's seems that NPTL is a more efficient form a thread management. Using a dual processor machine (Athlon MP 2400) would I be likely to see a noticeable speed increase if I enabled the nptl use flag and recompiled everything? -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Upgrade
Ok I will and try and make this simple. Say I'm using genkernel to automate the kernel compile: Will simply moving the .config from the current Kernel tree to new Kernel tree use the same menu slections that were used in the original Kernel tree? E.G. 1) mount /boot 2) cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r7 3) cp .config /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8/.config 4) cd /usr/src 5) rm linux 6) ln -s linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r8 linux 7) cd /usr/src/linux 8) genkernel 9) modify grub.conf to reflect the new kernel 10) umount /boot 11) shutdown -ar __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP interface?
Thanks Jayson. JBanks --- Jayson Garrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 13:35, Joshua Banks wrote: Reposting in the hopes that I get a bite. I've researched this but don't seem to find anything significant that helps answer my 2 questions. JBanks --- Joshua Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've just added another nic card and statically assigned the address and used rc-update add net.eth1 default and added the eth1 interface/address info in /etc/conf.d/net. This works fine right now with a static address. 2 questions: 1) Eth1 will be connected to a cable modem and will need to be using dhcp to get its interface/gateway info. So do I just simply edit the /etc/conf.d/net settings when the time comes to change from static to dhcp and the eth1 interface will automatically revert to using dhcp settings or do I need to do something otherwise? Just change it in /etc/conf.d/net like you mentioned. That is all that is needed. 2) Having added eth1 to the default run-level via rc-update, will switching the interface to dhcp (versus it being statically addressed now) have an effect or not? If so, what (if simple) do I need to do? Correct. If you make the change in /etc/conf.d/net it will work as you expect. The file /etc/conf.d/net is nothing more then a place holder for numeric ip values. Adding it via 'rc-update add net.eth1 default' only told gentoo to start that device at boot time, the config is where the acual values come from. All in all you were on the right path to begin with. Jayson Garrell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP interface?
--- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will only work as you expect if you reboot or restart eth1 manually. To restart it manually do: /etc/init.d/net.eth1 stop /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start That will cause it to go out and get it's new settings via dhcp. Ahhh Thank you. When I do this, (the commands your referring to above) does this tell it to look in ect/conf.d/net then..? And from there it knows whether its a static ip or to run dhcp?? Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 23:04, John Arrowwood wrote: Perhaps you could start with explaining why you can't use Samba to share between Linux machines... If you have Samba support compiled into your kernel, you can mount Samba shares as easily as an NFS share. my reasons are that i hate smb, i want to keep my permissions, nfs is WAY faster, and i have alot problems with smb. and i hate the way to make smb shares :D but i guess the only real reason to have is permissions and speed :) From: brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs? Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:37:35 -0500 I'm currently using samba to share drives between windows and linux systems. Works okay for the windows systems to see the Linux drives. However, to share between Linux sysetms I need something else. I am considering NFS and noticed Gentoo has OpenAFS also. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list _ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
