Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is there No documentation for K3B ????

2003-12-24 Thread Joshua Banks

--- lodger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All I could find was 
> k3b --help

Yup. I checked that. Sorry, forgot to mention that.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a CD/DVD ripping linux program
that is Very intuitive and has lots of documentation for a newb that is
used to using Windows Nero. (Something with a intuitive GUI)

I use CDroast on occasion but this is something (CD burning) that I
just don't use often enough to warrant a fair opinion when compairing
whats available for linux. 

Thanks for any input. And Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it.

JBanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with new system

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Calvert
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 22:49, Collins wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 13:12, Thomas Richards wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was thinking of maybe a 10 GB /root partition on ext3
> > to store important files.  Has anyone compared JFS to ext3?

I tried jfs on a recent install and had lots of strange behavior.  perhaps I 
set something up wrong, but I had to manually fsck the thing ( after clean 
shutdowns ) at every boot.  I gave up after a week and went back to reiser.
>
> Can't help you with JFS, but I'm an EXT3 fan.  Many of my correspondents on
> the linux-users list prefer XFS over anything else, but it's not available
> without getting patches until 2.6 (there are plans to merge it into 2.4), 

XFS is great, as long as you have a seperate power source for your drives, and 
a battery back up in the raid controller.  Otherwise, you _will_ suffer 
dataloss when your machine gets hardbooted.  strange, inexplicable loss in 
files that wern't even open when the machine went down.

> I just completed a reiserfs install on a SUSE system and found the journal
> trashed a couple of days later, so I've written that one off.

This is the first bad thing i've heard about reiser in a long time, but i'll 
take your word for it.  was the journal on the same drive?

>
> Unless you are putting up a heavy duty server, I don't think you'll notice
> a real speed difference with any of these fs.  I've used EXT3 almost since
> its beginning without any problems.

I have to agree that ext3 is the safest option out there. ( barring ufs2 with 
softupdates :)  
>
> Enjoy your new machine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with new system

2003-12-24 Thread Collins
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 13:12, Thomas Richards wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was thinking of maybe a 10 GB /root partition on ext3
> to store important files.  Has anyone compared JFS to ext3?  

Can't help you with JFS, but I'm an EXT3 fan.  Many of my correspondents on 
the linux-users list prefer XFS over anything else, but it's not available 
without getting patches until 2.6 (there are plans to merge it into 2.4),  I 
just completed a reiserfs install on a SUSE system and found the journal 
trashed a couple of days later, so I've written that one off.

Unless you are putting up a heavy duty server, I don't think you'll notice a 
real speed difference with any of these fs.  I've used EXT3 almost since its 
beginning without any problems.

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[gentoo-user] Weird kppp error annoyance

2003-12-24 Thread Robert Crawford
About one-third of the time when I try to connect with kppp (randomly), I get 
the error box 1-2 times where it says "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!  
Exit status 19. I then click "details," and it gives this message.

Cannot open any of the following logfiles:
/var/log/syslog.ppp
/var/log/syslog
/var/log/messages

Then the next attempt to connect proceeds normally, with no problems. I'm 
wondering why this occurs only sometimes. man pppd says error 19 is "We 
failed to authenticate ourselves to the peer." That's understandable, but 
doesn't seem to be related to logfiles not being opened. It's not really a 
big problem, but I'd just as soon understand why this is happening, and not 
have to make 1-2 extra attempts to connect if there's a setting I have wrong, 
and fixing it would eliminate this minor annoyance. 
H. Come to think of it, this also occurs with my Mandrake box (but not as 
often), so it must be isp and/or generic linux related, and not distro or 
hardware dependent.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Is there No documentation for K3B ????

2003-12-24 Thread lodger
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:44:52 -0800 (PST)
Joshua Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I must be blind. I don't see any man pages nor is there any type of
> tutorial or Help manual that I can find for K3B ver. 0.9.
> 
> Under the drop down "Help" menu, "K3B Handbook is greyed out".
> 
> I'm not complaining, because I found it very intuitive to use. The
> problem that I'm going to have is that I built my brother a Gentoo
> linux system for Christmas and when he goes to rip a cd he's not going
> to have a clue as to what to do.
> 
> Is there a link or an extra documentation download that I missed or is
> this something that is considered assumed knowledge of before
> installing and running. I hope not. 

All I could find was 
k3b --help
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with new system

2003-12-24 Thread Thomas Richards
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Hmm yea, come to think of it your suggestions make more sense.  I
still think I'm going to try out LVM.  I'm just leary of setting
limits on the partitions(paranoid thinking in the future nut).   I
will take yer suggestion and create a /home and a / partition.  Any
suggestion on why I should use JFS over ext3 or vice versa?
Tom

Spider wrote:

| begin  quote On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:34 + Thomas Richards
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|> /boot ext2 10 MB
|
|
| you have 120 gb, use at least 32 mb here. or you'll regret it when
| you want to try out things (oh, new bootloader with some cute games
| in it? perhaps initrd with a mini-safe system on it for... )  just
| in case.
|
|
|> /var ReiserFS X GB(I was thinking maybe 20? 30? any suggestions?)
|>
|
|
| /var ~512Mb - 1Gb,   i prefer ext3, theres no performance horse
| necessary there. you want stability in "append" functions mostly.
|
| /var/tmp  :   ext2,  No need for a journal at all.  ~5-8 Gb is
| quite enough even if you dont clean it out.  ext2 is still by far
| the fastest filesystem.
|
| And frankly, you don't care about "oh i must retain all data if
| power goes" on /var/tmp ..  the thing you do mostly there is
| compile. "oops" if its lost ; )
|
|
|> /usr/portage ReiserFS 5 GB (i read that rfs is good for small
|> files, on the forums it suggested this because of updating the
|> portage cache and most of the files are small, so the process
|> speeds up)
|
|
| I suggest ext2 here too. All the data can be recovered from the
| net, so you dont gain anything from a journal. And once more,
| performance is better on ext2 ;)
|
|
|
|> I dont think I'm going to want to make a seperate /home or /usr
|> partition, but I was thinking of maybe a 10 GB /root partition on
|> ext3 to store important files.  Has anyone compared JFS to ext3?
|> I'm leaning more towards JFS, since I read it does have faster
|> read time. I would make this as my root partition.
|
|
| Separate /home from / , you have far more write activity in /home,
| so you want that separated. and it makes for a better upgrade path
| when you move systems, or try out another root partition
| (reinstalling Gentoo, testing the new flashy distro on a small
| partition? ) as its just to mount /home and all is there as you
| want it.
|
| //Spider
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Re: [gentoo-user] ReiserFSCK woes

2003-12-24 Thread Scott Jackson
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(laughs) I suppose I had it coming. Luckily nothing quite volatile was on the disk 
when it happened, in fact, it probably needed a good formatting, considering the 
number of times and the magnitude at which I screwed up the install. (note to self: 
stage3 tarballs are good)

Anyway, I regret to say I am severely disappointed with genkernel. I'll probably start 
another thread about this, but I decided to stop using it when, for the third time, 
this mailing list told me it was genkernel's fault that my kernel panicked.
well, back to the old emerging board...

Merry Christmas,

Scott Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:11:18 +
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:38:07 -0600 Scott Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | I reiserfsck three different ways until I figure
> | out I need to --rebuild-tree. SHOOP
> | entire filesystem goes into /lost+found. What is a boy to do?
> 
> You're probably best going with a more stable filesystem if you don't
> like your files taking a walk every so often. Alternatively, use lots
> and lots of partitions (LVM is good for this), aiming for one per
> directory, so that when the inevitable reiser screwup nukes your
> directory structure, it's not much work to fix it.
> 
> Okay, bring on the flames. It's freezing outside and I could use a
> little heat to warm things up.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

2003-12-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 25 December 2003 04:18, Vanh Phom wrote:
(B> On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 14:19, Cybercar wrote:
(B> > Hi everyone, firt of all Merry Xmas
(B> >
(B> > Well, Now I was going to try to copy a CD on K3B and I want to know
(B> > first if I have to Add the scsi-emulation on the kernel, or there's
(B> > other new way to do it on 2.6.0 kernel.
(B> >
(B> > Thank's all
(B>
(B> In 2.6.0 you don't need ide-scsi emulation anymore. I'm using xcdroast
(B> to do CD burning with ATAPI ide.
(B
(BWhat's wrong with doing CD burning with ATAPI ide in 2.4.x? I found that 
(Bworked with no problems but that very little software (only cdrecord) 
(Bsupported it. k3b and others have recently added support for atapi ide 
(Bburning, but is there any reason why it wouldn't work with 2.4.x as well?
(B
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Re: [gentoo-user] HOWTO: Installation on Dell Inspiron 8500 Laptop

2003-12-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Chris Nitkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I just finished writing a first draft of an installation HOWTO on my
> Inspiron 8500 laptop... check it out at
> http://www.chrisnitkin.com/wordpress/static_gentoo_guide.php! Please be
> gentle (with both my server and your criticisms)! Thanks!

Chris,
Looks pretty nice, except the layout was a little funky in the gray boxes
-- the text sometimes extended past the right side of the box, using
Firebird.

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] setting default terminal font

2003-12-24 Thread Ian Truelsen
How can I set the default for the console and the terminal in X (Eterm
should it matter)?

I have tried using setfont with fonts from /usr/share/consolefont, but I
get the two error:

putfont: PIO_FONT: Invalid argument

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Re: [gentoo-user] Package question?

2003-12-24 Thread Vanh Phom
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 15:58, Robert G.Waycott wrote:

> 
> 
> Vanh, you can easily type all the packages you want to emerge on one line before 
> pressing enter key. Such as:
> 
> # emerge xfce4-package1 xfce4-pkg2 etc etc etc etc
> 
> That ought to do it--granted the builds go properly and nothing fails, of course.
> 
> Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

2003-12-24 Thread Vanh Phom
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 14:19, Cybercar wrote:
> Hi everyone, firt of all Merry Xmas
> 
> Well, Now I was going to try to copy a CD on K3B and I want to know
> first if I have to Add the scsi-emulation on the kernel, or there's
> other new way to do it on 2.6.0 kernel.
> 
> Thank's all

In 2.6.0 you don't need ide-scsi emulation anymore. I'm using xcdroast
to do CD burning with ATAPI ide.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with new system

2003-12-24 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:34 +
Thomas Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> /boot ext2 10 MB

you have 120 gb, use at least 32 mb here. or you'll regret it when you
want to try out things (oh, new bootloader with some cute games in it?
perhaps initrd with a mini-safe system on it for... )  just in case. 


> /var ReiserFS X GB(I was thinking maybe 20? 30? any suggestions?)

/var ~512Mb - 1Gb,   i prefer ext3, theres no performance horse
necessary there. you want stability in "append" functions mostly.

/var/tmp  :   ext2,  No need for a journal at all.  ~5-8 Gb is quite
enough even if you dont clean it out.  ext2 is still by far the fastest
filesystem.

And frankly, you don't care about "oh i must retain all data if power
goes" on /var/tmp ..  the thing you do mostly there is compile. "oops"
if its lost ; )


> /usr/portage ReiserFS 5 GB (i read that rfs is good for small files,
> on the forums it suggested this because of updating the portage cache
> and most of the files are small, so the process speeds up)

I suggest ext2 here too. All the data can be recovered from the net, so
 you dont gain anything from a journal. And once more, performance is
better on ext2 ;)



> I dont think I'm going to want to make a seperate /home or /usr
> partition, but I was thinking of maybe a 10 GB /root partition on ext3
> to store important files.  Has anyone compared JFS to ext3?  I'm
> leaning more towards JFS, since I read it does have faster read time.
> I would make this as my root partition.

Separate /home from / , you have far more write activity in /home, so
you want that separated. and it makes for a better upgrade path when you
move systems, or try out another root partition (reinstalling Gentoo,
testing the new flashy distro on a small partition? ) as its just to
mount /home and all is there as you want it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0 on gentoo with nvidia

2003-12-24 Thread Cybercar
I've fixed the problem.
Just to put the nvidia as a module in the autoload file, and it works
fine.

Merry Xmas

El jue, 25-12-2003 a las 04:08, Jason Stubbs escribió:
> On Saturday 20 December 2003 00:01, Cybercar wrote:
> > My XF86Config is a bit full of shit ( so many comments # )
> 
> You're XF86Config looks fine as well. I just checked your kernel .config again 
> and found:
> 
> CONFIG_AGP=y
> CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y
> CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA=y
> CONFIG_DRM=y
> CONFIG_DRM_I830=y
> 
> What it your motherboard chipset? More specifically, what is your AGP chipset? 
> You only want the driver for whatever your AGP chipset is - by the look of 
> the above, I'm guessing it's Intel. You might want to remove the DRM stuff as 
> well.
> 
> Everything looks like there is no problem but it's not even getting the X 
> server up. If it was starting up correctly but locking up occasionally, I 
> would say to remove AGP from the kernel altogether, which would then use 
> NVidia's AGP driver by default. But I don't think that would help any.
> 
> If none of the above works, check the NVidia readme. It contains a list of 
> files that should be installed. Check through that and make sure that every 
> file exists and that the permissions provide at least read-only access for 
> your users. Anything you find amiss, let us know about.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Package question?

2003-12-24 Thread Vanh Phom
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 13:42, Oliver Lange wrote:

> You normally don't need to do that.. if you enter 'emerge xyz', you'll get
> the package inclusing all dependencies. I guess you're using a dial-up
> connection and want to download everything in one go before installation ?
> 
> Then use 'emerge --fetchonly xyz', that'll download the packages without
> installing. When done, enter 'emerge xyz' to install them.

Thank you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0 on gentoo with nvidia

2003-12-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 20 December 2003 00:01, Cybercar wrote:
(B> My XF86Config is a bit full of shit ( so many comments # )
(B
(BYou're XF86Config looks fine as well. I just checked your kernel .config again 
(Band found:
(B
(BCONFIG_AGP=y
(BCONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y
(BCONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA=y
(BCONFIG_DRM=y
(BCONFIG_DRM_I830=y
(B
(BWhat it your motherboard chipset? More specifically, what is your AGP chipset? 
(BYou only want the driver for whatever your AGP chipset is - by the look of 
(Bthe above, I'm guessing it's Intel. You might want to remove the DRM stuff as 
(Bwell.
(B
(BEverything looks like there is no problem but it's not even getting the X 
(Bserver up. If it was starting up correctly but locking up occasionally, I 
(Bwould say to remove AGP from the kernel altogether, which would then use 
(BNVidia's AGP driver by default. But I don't think that would help any.
(B
(BIf none of the above works, check the NVidia readme. It contains a list of 
(Bfiles that should be installed. Check through that and make sure that every 
(Bfile exists and that the permissions provide at least read-only access for 
(Byour users. Anything you find amiss, let us know about.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with new system

2003-12-24 Thread Thomas Richards
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I didnt know about LVM before, it looks very interesting.  I think I'm
going to try it out.
Tom

Just Modeste wrote:

| On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:34 + Thomas Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| wrote:
|
|> I recently decided to build a new gentoo system for xmas.  With
|> this new system, I will be getting a 120GB hard drive.  I was
|> contimplating a partition scheme and I would like some advice.
|> Currently, I have this worked out:
|
|
| You can use LVM (or LVM2 with kernel-2.6) for dynamic partitions.
| You can resize it when it is smaller...
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[gentoo-user] OT: Is there No documentation for K3B ????

2003-12-24 Thread Joshua Banks
I must be blind. I don't see any man pages nor is there any type of
tutorial or Help manual that I can find for K3B ver. 0.9.

Under the drop down "Help" menu, "K3B Handbook is greyed out".

I'm not complaining, because I found it very intuitive to use. The
problem that I'm going to have is that I built my brother a Gentoo
linux system for Christmas and when he goes to rip a cd he's not going
to have a clue as to what to do.

Is there a link or an extra documentation download that I missed or is
this something that is considered assumed knowledge of before
installing and running. I hope not. 

Thanks,
Joshua Banks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with new system

2003-12-24 Thread Just Modeste
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:34 +
Thomas Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I recently decided to build a new gentoo system for xmas.  With this
> new system, I will be getting a 120GB hard drive.  I was contimplating
> a partition scheme and I would like some advice.
> Currently, I have this worked out:

You can use LVM (or LVM2 with kernel-2.6) for dynamic partitions. You
can resize it when it is smaller...

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[gentoo-user] Help with new system

2003-12-24 Thread Thomas Richards
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Hello,

I recently decided to build a new gentoo system for xmas.  With this
new system, I will be getting a 120GB hard drive.  I was contimplating
a partition scheme and I would like some advice.
Currently, I have this worked out:
/boot ext2 10 MB
/var ReiserFS X GB(I was thinking maybe 20? 30? any suggestions?)
/usr/portage ReiserFS 5 GB (i read that rfs is good for small files,
on the forums it suggested this because of updating the portage cache
and most of the files are small, so the process speeds up)
I dont think I'm going to want to make a seperate /home or /usr
partition, but I was thinking of maybe a 10 GB /root partition on ext3
to store important files.  Has anyone compared JFS to ext3?  I'm
leaning more towards JFS, since I read it does have faster read time.
I would make this as my root partition.
I'm trying to get a system that is flexible for future upgrades(the
large /var for the /var/tmp dir) and general use.  I also want to be
able to squeeze as much speed out of this as I can; thats why I'm
using ReiserFS in the /var and /usr/portage.  Any comments and
suggestions are welcome.  I want to get something set up once, I dont
want to go back and have to resize partitions.  Thats why I'm
overestimating the size of my partitions, to allow room for future
storage.
Thank You

Thomas Richards

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[gentoo-user] No sound with bttv from kernel 2.6

2003-12-24 Thread romildo
Hello.

I have a PixelView PlayTV Pro PV-BT878P+ Rev. 8E installed
in my system, which runs the kernel gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.0.
The soundcard is a C-Media CM8738, driven by Alsa.

The TV card works perfectly, but without sound.

With the kernel gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r8 it does have
no problems with audio. I have noticed that with the 2.4.20
kernel, no tvaudio module is loaded (so I assume it is
not needed).

Would something changed with the new kernel and
I have missed it?

Any clues?

My modules configuration includes:

---
alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0 bttv
alias char-major-81-1 bttv
alias char-major-89 i2c-dev

options i2c-core i2c_debug=1
options i2c-algo-bit bit_test=1
options i2c verbose=1 scan=1 i2c_debug=1
options turner debug=1
options bttv card=70 tuner=2 radio=1 bttv_verbose=2 gbuffers=32 bttv_gpio=1
---

The loaded modules are:

Module  Size  Used by
tuner  15436  0 
tvaudio21964  0 
bttv  136428  0 
video_buf  22276  1 bttv
i2c_algo_bit   10184  1 bttv
btcx_risc   4808  1 bttv
v4l2_common 4608  1 bttv
videodev9792  1 bttv
i2c_core   25288  4 tuner,tvaudio,bttv,i2c_algo_bit
nvidia   1700716  10 
sg 32728  0 
ipt_state   1856  5 
ipt_REJECT  6592  1 
ipt_LOG 5440  1 
iptable_filter  2752  1 
ip_nat_ftp  4912  0 
iptable_nat22444  2 ip_nat_ftp
ip_conntrack_irc   71284  0 
ip_conntrack_ftp   72052  1 ip_nat_ftp
ip_conntrack   32176  5 
ipt_state,ip_nat_ftp,iptable_nat,ip_conntrack_irc,ip_conntrack_ftp
ip_tables  17792  5 ipt_state,ipt_REJECT,ipt_LOG,iptable_filter,iptable_nat
ppp_synctty 9408  0 
ppp_async  11584  1 
ppp_generic26064  6 ppp_synctty,ppp_async
slhc7488  1 ppp_generic
parport_pc 29352  1 
lp  9920  0 
parport28832  2 parport_pc,lp
ohci_hcd   18368  0 
uhci_hcd   32208  0 
ehci_hcd   24260  0 
vgastate   10368  0 
snd_pcm_oss53156  0 
snd_mixer_oss  19200  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_cmipci 34964  0 
snd_pcm99940  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_cmipci
snd_page_alloc 11844  1 snd_pcm
snd_opl3_lib   11008  1 snd_cmipci
snd_hwdep   9504  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart 7744  1 snd_cmipci
snd_rawmidi25056  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_oss34624  0 
snd_seq_midi_event  7936  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq55312  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer  25796  3 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  8136  4 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd55268  13 
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_cmipci,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
rtc12664  0 
usbcore   110684  5 ohci_hcd,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
soundcore   9536  2 bttv,snd
ide_scsi   15172  0 
via_rhine  21256  0 
8139too23104  0 
mii 5056  2 via_rhine,8139too
crc32   4352  2 via_rhine,8139too
ide_cd 41028  0 
sr_mod 17380  0 
scsi_mod  112120  3 sg,ide_scsi,sr_mod
cdrom  35360  2 ide_cd,sr_mod


And amixer (from Alsa) gives me:

Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%]
Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Synth',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch cswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [on]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Line-In As Bass',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: 

[gentoo-user] gnomad2 error

2003-12-24 Thread Stephen Turner
> usb_bulk_write: No such file or directory
> send_njb3_command: I/O failure on USB data pipe

hey guys the above is an error i get while running gnomad2 for my zen xtra
i cant get it to work and would rather not use windoze, any suggestions?
this error comes from the command prompt immediately after execution of gnomad2

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Re: [gentoo-user] x86+scsi problem

2003-12-24 Thread George Hernandez
On 12/24/03 3:01 AM, "Peter Ruskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks peter... I think I had forgotten pts support.. So I recompiled the
kernel right now.. Hopefully it will work.. So far I did have /proc as you
showed me and /dev/shm
Lets see what happes



> On Wednesday 24 Dec 2003 04:07, George Hernandez wrote:
>> Hello all.. Hopefully you guys can help me.
>> Here is my grub.conf file...
>> [grub.conf]
>> 
>> 
>> default 0
>> timeout 30
>> splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>> 
>> title=Gentoo Linux
>> root (hd0,0)
>> kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.23 root=/dev/sda3
>> [end]
>> 
>> Here is my fstab..
>> [fstab]
>> /dev/sda1/boot   reiserfs notail 1 1
>> /dev/sda3/   reiserfs notail 0 0
>> /dev/sda2noneswap sw 0 0  
>> 
>> [end]
> 
> Add these:
> 
> none /proc proc   defaults 0 0
> none /dev/pts  devpts defaults 0 0
> none /dev/shm  tmpfs  defaults 0 0
> 
>> 
>> But my box stalls at the following..
>> [code]
>> Mounting proc at /proc ..
>> And it just hangs..
>> [code]
>> Before that I get the following msg:
>> vfs: Mounted root(reiserfs filesystem) readonly
>> mounted devfs on /dev
>> 
>> If that is any help.
>> [/code]
>> 
> 
> Peter


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Re: [gentoo-user] 'system' packages list; svscan & inittab

2003-12-24 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 03:20:11 +0200
Alex Efros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> without prob, but all software with optional XFree support will be
> compiled without it.

 
> Ohh, sorry!!! I've just rechecked /etc/make.profile/packages and
> noticed
> what there is no 'star' at line '>=x11-base/xfree-4.1.0-r12', so it
> shouldn't be installed by `emerge system` at all, right?

Well, python has "tcltk" as a USE flag, and tcltk is "tk", means "X"
(its an X toolkit after all)  so depending on your settings you may get 
X from "emerge system" 


> 
> 
> Hmm. I think it's simple enough to realize 'readlink' as bash-function
> using 'ls -l'... but this isn't really important.

Well, that is simple, but doesn't work for buildscripts , so its simpler
to just provide it ;)
  
> > > 7) bc
> > Common unix standard tool, used by a lot of buildscripts. 
> 
> I don't know such buildscripts... Really:

Well, we cheat. if something is mentioned in system it doesn't have to
be a total DEPEND.  okay, its bad form , but it eases calculation in a
few cases.  But if you find things that break without bc, tell us and we
can fix the dep's. 



> 
> I've now checked /etc/make.profile/packages again, and all my
> questions
> about it content disappear: bc, dhcpd, debianutils, etc. is mostly
> small
> harmless things. Only question left is my initial question: do you
> really think what PAM support is 100% required for anyone and should
> be in 'system'? Is it safe to just unmerge pam and pam-login (I've
> USE="-pam")?  ... From my point of view, PAM is very good idea with
> very bad realization -
> there a number of bugs and security holes found from time to time in
> PAM,
> so it's safer to not use PAM if you don't need some PAM's features.
> 


This is up for argument, I think pam-login is pulled in because shadow's
login implementation had a -bad- case of login-fails-three-times and get
root access.   Frankly i haven't given it much thought myself, but Its a
nice goal to see if you can cut out pam completely and not have things
breaking. (please document it! ;)


As seen, a lot of things are done because it eases support burden and
doesn't break things.  I'm pretty sure you can streamline a profile far
more than this.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 'system' packages list; svscan & inittab

2003-12-24 Thread Alex Efros
Hi!

On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 01:29:16AM +0100, Spider wrote:
> > Some other software which may be removed from 'system' is:
> > 1) gawk - there is a lot of different 'awk' realizations which user
> > may want instead of gawk (I prefer 'mawk')
> This may not be direct in system, check virtuals/  support ( a list of
> packages that provide the same functionality )

Ok, thanks, I will check it.

> > 2) sysklogd - for example, I prefer 'multilog t /var/log/kernel
> >  > 'syslogd'.
> its not. virtual/logger is.  if you don't supply a logger yourself, it
> will use sysklogd because its "default"

Yeah, you right.
 
> > 3) xfree - I don't know why xfree is in 'system' - I think this is
> >bad idea to have 'xfree' always installed, even on servers.
> USE flag +X +gtk +qt +kde +tcltk  may any and all of those bring in
> xfree as a dependency. I'd suggest reading some more on USE flags too
> ;).

Hmm.. So, if I set USE="-X" then xfree will not be compiled by `emerge
system`? As far as I understand USE - it affect only "optional package
dependency", not "packages to install": I can `emerge xfree` with USE="-X"
without prob, but all software with optional XFree support will be
compiled without it.

Ohh, sorry!!! I've just rechecked /etc/make.profile/packages and noticed
what there is no 'star' at line '>=x11-base/xfree-4.1.0-r12', so it
shouldn't be installed by `emerge system` at all, right?

> > 4) dhcpd - it's small, but probably not 'system' because it isn't used
> >at all in many networks 
> its a hard package cause there were too many users who forgot  to
> install it and ended up with nonworking machines.  :)

Ok, let it be there... ;-))

> > 5) debianutils
> Needed for "readlink" , and only that afaik.

Hmm. I think it's simple enough to realize 'readlink' as bash-function
using 'ls -l'... but this isn't really important.
 
> > 7) bc
> Common unix standard tool, used by a lot of buildscripts. 

I don't know such buildscripts... Really:

home root # qpkg --installed --query-deps bc
sys-devel/bc-1.06-r5 *
DEPENDED ON BY:
sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r3 *
DEPENDED ON BY:
gcc-3.2.3-r3

but I 100% sure what gcc will compile without 'bc' just because I've
compiled it (many versions from 3.0 to 3.2.3) a lot of times for my
distribution, and I've no 'bc' in my distribution. (I've about 200
packages in my distribution, and no one of them need 'bc'.)

For me, 'bc' is too strange thing, I prefer to use 'expr' from sh-utils
for simple calculations in bash scripts and 'perl' in complex cases.

> > 8) ... and some other utilities, which may or may not be useful, but
> >which are not required, so they shouldn't be in 'system' - user can
> >install 'fbset' or 'bc' or other such utils later at any time...
> System provides a set of decent defaults for a user, making it simple to
> redo. 
> if you wish to roll your own profile its dead simple actually, just
> check the /etc/make.profile, move it from a link to a directory and then
> do the changes.. (or simply relink it to another place ;)

I've now checked /etc/make.profile/packages again, and all my questions
about it content disappear: bc, dhcpd, debianutils, etc. is mostly small
harmless things. Only question left is my initial question: do you
really think what PAM support is 100% required for anyone and should be
in 'system'? Is it safe to just unmerge pam and pam-login (I've USE="-pam")?
... From my point of view, PAM is very good idea with very bad realization -
there a number of bugs and security holes found from time to time in PAM,
so it's safer to not use PAM if you don't need some PAM's features.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting winxp-vfat

2003-12-24 Thread Chris
On Wed December 24 2003 5:00:pm, Chris I wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 16:38, Chris wrote:
> > On Wed December 24 2003 7:33:am, Norberto Bensa wrote:
> > > Harald Arnesen wrote:
> > > > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >> On Tuesday 23 December 2003 02:38 pm, Chris wrote:
> > > > >> just do a "mkdir /mnt/c" as root then try it
> > > > >
> > > > > had to reboot but it worked thanks
> > > >
> > > > It was not neccesary to reboot because of that.
> > >
> > > Heh, he has been using Windows for so much time that "reboot for this
> > > change to take effect" is deeply impressed in his mind :-D
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Norberto
> >
> > actually when I tried to mount it b4 rebooting all i got was an empty
> > window and i havent used the win hd on this thing in over 6 months so
> > that hd will be reformated and used strickly for my music
>
> An empty window?
>
> mount /mnt/c
>
> That would have worked just as well (*ahem* better) than a reboot ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] 'system' packages list; svscan & inittab

2003-12-24 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:26:13 +0200
Alex Efros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Some other software which may be removed from 'system' is:
> 1) gawk - there is a lot of different 'awk' realizations which user
> may want instead of gawk (I prefer 'mawk')
This may not be direct in system, check virtuals/  support ( a list of
packages that provide the same functionality )

> 2) sysklogd - for example, I prefer 'multilog t /var/log/kernel
>  'syslogd'.

its not. virtual/logger is.  if you don't supply a logger yourself, it
will use sysklogd because its "default"


> 3) xfree - I don't know why xfree is in 'system' - I think this is
>bad idea to have 'xfree' always installed, even on servers.
USE flag +X +gtk +qt +kde +tcltk  may any and all of those bring in
xfree as a dependency. I'd suggest reading some more on USE flags too
;).

> 4) dhcpd - it's small, but probably not 'system' because it isn't used
>at all in many networks

its a hard package cause there were too many users who forgot  to
install it and ended up with nonworking machines.  :)


> 5) debianutils
Needed for "readlink" , and only that afaik.


> 6) fbset
Debateable, I agree.

> 7) bc
Common unix standard tool, used by a lot of buildscripts. 


> 8) ... and some other utilities, which may or may not be useful, but
>which are not required, so they shouldn't be in 'system' - user can
>install 'fbset' or 'bc' or other such utils later at any time...


System provides a set of decent defaults for a user, making it simple to
redo. 
if you wish to roll your own profile its dead simple actually, just
check the /etc/make.profile, move it from a link to a directory and then
do the changes.. (or simply relink it to another place ;)


Hth,
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[gentoo-user] kde beta ( was re: dvd+rw gui interface)

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Calvert

> > the only caveat is that i had to turn off autofs, which kept trying to
> > mount the disk while i was burning it.  no data seems to be damaged.
>
> Ah I could live with that...  As I'm off to bed I think I'm going to
> emerge the kde beta overnight, can always set depclean on it in the
> morning if I don't like it...

kde good :)  my wife loves konqueror on her mac - using fish is so much easier 
than all the silly mac scp clients 

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Re: [gentoo-user] dvd+rw gui interface

2003-12-24 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 22:59, Ben Calvert wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 13:31, Tom Wesley wrote:
> 
> > > I haven't tried nautalus, but strongly recommend k3b for burning.  it's
> > > not too heavy on kde dependencies, and has the most natural interface
> > > i've found for burning anything.
> > >
> > > burning a dvd is as easy as selecting 'dvd-data project' and then
> > > dragging and dropping files.
> >
> > How does it handle the files already on the disk?
> 
> hmm Ihaven't tried before, let's find out
> 
> ok, i create a new project, select Project -> Import Session, 
> 
> and it reads in the contents of the dvd ( this part seems to be taking awhile, 
> but then again i've got 2 GB of stuff on there )
> 
> I was able to add 2 new folders of ogg data, and change then name of one 
> existing folder.
> 
> the only caveat is that i had to turn off autofs, which kept trying to mount 
> the disk while i was burning it.  no data seems to be damaged.
> 

Ah I could live with that...  As I'm off to bed I think I'm going to
emerge the kde beta overnight, can always set depclean on it in the
morning if I don't like it...

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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting winxp-vfat

2003-12-24 Thread Chris I
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 16:38, Chris wrote:
> On Wed December 24 2003 7:33:am, Norberto Bensa wrote:
> > Harald Arnesen wrote:
> > > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >> On Tuesday 23 December 2003 02:38 pm, Chris wrote:
> > > >> just do a "mkdir /mnt/c" as root then try it
> > > >
> > > > had to reboot but it worked thanks
> > >
> > > It was not neccesary to reboot because of that.
> >
> > Heh, he has been using Windows for so much time that "reboot for this
> > change to take effect" is deeply impressed in his mind :-D
> >
> > Regards,
> > Norberto
> 
> actually when I tried to mount it b4 rebooting all i got was an empty window 
> and i havent used the win hd on this thing in over 6 months so that hd will 
> be reformated and used strickly for my music 

An empty window?

mount /mnt/c

That would have worked just as well (*ahem* better) than a reboot ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] dvd+rw gui interface

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Calvert
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 13:31, Tom Wesley wrote:

> > I haven't tried nautalus, but strongly recommend k3b for burning.  it's
> > not too heavy on kde dependencies, and has the most natural interface
> > i've found for burning anything.
> >
> > burning a dvd is as easy as selecting 'dvd-data project' and then
> > dragging and dropping files.
>
> How does it handle the files already on the disk?

hmm Ihaven't tried before, let's find out

ok, i create a new project, select Project -> Import Session, 

and it reads in the contents of the dvd ( this part seems to be taking awhile, 
but then again i've got 2 GB of stuff on there )

I was able to add 2 new folders of ogg data, and change then name of one 
existing folder.

the only caveat is that i had to turn off autofs, which kept trying to mount 
the disk while i was burning it.  no data seems to be damaged.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CD's and MP3's

2003-12-24 Thread Chris I
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 06:51, mathieu perrenoud wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 11.34, Paul Stear wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A very merry xmas to all.
> >
> > I bought my wife a couple of Cd's that I would like  and didn't
> > realise that they are copy protected but list that they can be played on a
> > windows machine.
> > I convert all my Cd's into MP3 using grip and listen to them on my linux
> > box. Has anybody any info, tips, progs that will allow me to rip the Cd's?
> > ( After Christmas of course)
> > I had vowed never to buy any copy protected Cd's for this very reason.  How
> > do people who only have MP3 players get on with these corrupt Cd's.
> 
> you can try this:
> 
> 
> Copy-protection systems work by adding a corrupt data track to the outside 
> edge of a CD. This track is ignored by common audio CD players but prevents 
> copying, and sometimes playing, in the more sensitive PC CD drives.
> 
> By covering up a portion of the dividing line and outside track on the CD, 
> without touching the last audio track, it is possible to fool the CD player 
> into thinking that the extra corrupt data track does not exist. The marker 
> pen line can easily be wiped away afterwards with a soft cloth.
> 
> A similar result was also obtained by sticking bits of a Post-It note along 
> the edge of the CD, but this is not advised as the paper may come loose and 
> damage the drive. 
> """
> (quoted from vnunet.com)

Not all copy protection schemes work like this. Sope throw checksum
errors on the disk, so that a standard cd player won't notice (doesnt
check, time is more important than accuracy), but cd-roms, which verify
data read (accuracy is more important than time) fail. Radiohead's 'hail
to the theif' cd works like this. I can play some of it using xmms'
cdread plugin, but I end up having to revert to analog cd playing to
actually listen to the disc.

Now, one possible way to rip it is to not use the digital ripping of the
disc, instead recording the cd-audio channel while playing (shouldnt be
affected by volume settings methinks). Also, ripping the cd (probably at
a low speed) without error checking and then have a nice, proper .iso.
You could burn this for future cd use, or you could see if grip can rip
from an .iso image.

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Re: [gentoo-user] partition resizing inside of Gentoo

2003-12-24 Thread Oliver Lange
Simon Kellett wrote:
If this *is* a problem then checkout "paud" (try freshmeat). It is a
mini-distro that fits on a single floppy and includes parted (you
download the 1.44Mb image under a working OS, make a floppy, boot it
and re-part you disks as required (I used it a few weeks ago to sort
out my Gentoo install when I created /boot partition too high up the
disk))
I would use the Gentoo Live-CD (stage 1) therefor, a very handy thing that
comes with everything i need, perhaps except of Midnight Commander..
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Re: [gentoo-user] custom ebuilds`

2003-12-24 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 07:07, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> See the 'B' part? That's pretty appropriate. They break things. They
> break things badly.

It's certainly Buyer Beware.

I would like to point out at least one exception (which probably proves
the rule), which was the openoffice-ximian ebuild; that got developed
and tested a bit at BMG; and formed the substantive base for what is now
in Portage.

So it's not *all* bad, but I can appreciate Spider's comment about
idiots who bug Gentoo developers about problems they're having with
externally sourced ebuilds.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ReiserFSCK woes

2003-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:38:07 -0600 Scott Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| I reiserfsck three different ways until I figure
| out I need to --rebuild-tree. SHOOP
| entire filesystem goes into /lost+found. What is a boy to do?

You're probably best going with a more stable filesystem if you don't
like your files taking a walk every so often. Alternatively, use lots
and lots of partitions (LVM is good for this), aiming for one per
directory, so that when the inevitable reiser screwup nukes your
directory structure, it's not much work to fix it.

Okay, bring on the flames. It's freezing outside and I could use a
little heat to warm things up.

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[gentoo-user] ReiserFSCK woes

2003-12-24 Thread Scott Jackson
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Well, I'm writing this email from my older machine right now, which has a Pentium II 
333MHz processor, 60 GB hard drive, etc.
The scheme of my partitioning is quite simple:
/dev/hda1 = boot (ext3)
/dev/hda2 = swap
/dev/hda3 = root (reiserFS)

My brand new computer follows the same scheme, except for the hardware:
AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred 2700+, 40 GB hard drive, etc.

now I've already installed gentoo on this computer, and I had a few kinks but overall 
it ran quite nicely. I've had a bit of a more major problem on my new one, though...
I was able to genkernel, but it died in the middle of startup (I did the "init=" fix 
that the mailing list suggested to compensate for the incorrect installation 
instructions) and dropped me a BusyBox in the middle of my initrd. I tried screwing 
genkernel and going for the gold (make bzImage modules etc...) and it worked fine... 
for one startup. in the middle of said session (I actually started up the XServer a 
few times) the computer locked up. no three-finger-salute could save me, so I hit the 
reset button.
Crap, it shoots me an error about not being able to find tools like "ls" and "awk" and 
drops into the login, but of course everything's broken. I decide to take out the 
trusty-rusty LiveCD and give reiserFSck a whirl, since it might have experienced some 
trouble during the mysterious lockup.
I reiserfsck three different ways until I figure out I need to --rebuild-tree.
SHOOP
entire filesystem goes into /lost+found. What is a boy to do?
Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting winxp-vfat

2003-12-24 Thread Chris
On Wed December 24 2003 7:33:am, Norberto Bensa wrote:
> Harald Arnesen wrote:
> > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >> On Tuesday 23 December 2003 02:38 pm, Chris wrote:
> > >> just do a "mkdir /mnt/c" as root then try it
> > >
> > > had to reboot but it worked thanks
> >
> > It was not neccesary to reboot because of that.
>
> Heh, he has been using Windows for so much time that "reboot for this
> change to take effect" is deeply impressed in his mind :-D
>
> Regards,
> Norberto

actually when I tried to mount it b4 rebooting all i got was an empty window 
and i havent used the win hd on this thing in over 6 months so that hd will 
be reformated and used strickly for my music 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Merry Christmas

2003-12-24 Thread Chris
On Wed December 24 2003 9:30:am, Collins wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 05:38, Oliver Lange wrote:
> > Merry Christmas to all of you !
> >
> > Have a good time, and thanks to all for your gracious
> > help and patience with off-topic questions.
> >
> > Now put your keyboard away and have a good glass of whine (or whatever).
>
> We have a good glass of whine almost every day on this list and most others
> .  Enjoy your good glass of wine for Christmas cheer.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dvd+rw gui interface

2003-12-24 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 21:25, Ben Calvert wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 13:20, Tom Wesley wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've just bought myself a new DVD-/+RW drive, fitted it and done some
> > reading up on the software to control the device.  It all works
> > perfectly if I use the command line tool growisofs (part of
> > app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools), but [1] mentions that it should also work with
> > nautilus-cd-burner and k3b.  I don't have any of KDE/QT installed, but
> > do already use nautilus to burn some cdr's - but cannot make anything it
> > burns to dvd appear when the device is mounted.
> >
> > Anyone have any idea what I'm missing?
> 
> I haven't tried nautalus, but strongly recommend k3b for burning.  it's not 
> too heavy on kde dependencies, and has the most natural interface i've found 
> for burning anything.
> 
> burning a dvd is as easy as selecting 'dvd-data project' and then dragging and 
> dropping files.
> 

How does it handle the files already on the disk?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoouser] [gentoo] sudo-like behaviour

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Calvert
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 13:17, Patrick Audley wrote:
> raptor> hi, Is there a way to run enable some user to run remotely
> raptor> via ssh some commands, but forbid him shell access at
> raptor> all..  I mean I want to eneble him only :
>
> Yes, this is very doable.  If you man sshd and look for the
> section on "AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT" you'll see how to do it.
> Basically you can create a key for each command and make it so that
> when the user uses that key he can only execute the exact command
> specified for that key.

It should be trivial to create a #!/bin/bash wrapper which knows which command 
the user is allowed to use, and then execute that wrapper with ssh, thus 
saving the work of having 15 keys per user

>
> Good Luck,
>  Patrick.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dvd+rw gui interface

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Calvert
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 13:20, Tom Wesley wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just bought myself a new DVD-/+RW drive, fitted it and done some
> reading up on the software to control the device.  It all works
> perfectly if I use the command line tool growisofs (part of
> app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools), but [1] mentions that it should also work with
> nautilus-cd-burner and k3b.  I don't have any of KDE/QT installed, but
> do already use nautilus to burn some cdr's - but cannot make anything it
> burns to dvd appear when the device is mounted.
>
> Anyone have any idea what I'm missing?

I haven't tried nautalus, but strongly recommend k3b for burning.  it's not 
too heavy on kde dependencies, and has the most natural interface i've found 
for burning anything.

burning a dvd is as easy as selecting 'dvd-data project' and then dragging and 
dropping files.

>
> [1]:  http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/

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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoouser] [gentoo] sudo-like behaviour

2003-12-24 Thread Patrick Audley

raptor> hi, Is there a way to run enable some user to run remotely
raptor> via ssh some commands, but forbid him shell access at
raptor> all..  I mean I want to eneble him only :

Yes, this is very doable.  If you man sshd and look for the
section on "AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT" you'll see how to do it.
Basically you can create a key for each command and make it so that
when the user uses that key he can only execute the exact command
specified for that key.

Good Luck,
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[gentoo-user] dvd+rw gui interface

2003-12-24 Thread Tom Wesley
Hi all,

I've just bought myself a new DVD-/+RW drive, fitted it and done some
reading up on the software to control the device.  It all works
perfectly if I use the command line tool growisofs (part of
app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools), but [1] mentions that it should also work with
nautilus-cd-burner and k3b.  I don't have any of KDE/QT installed, but
do already use nautilus to burn some cdr's - but cannot make anything it
burns to dvd appear when the device is mounted.

Anyone have any idea what I'm missing?

[1]:  http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/
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Re: [gentoo-user] the smallest smtp server ?

2003-12-24 Thread Richard Kilgore
On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 09:25:33PM +0100, Simon Kellett wrote:
> On 14 Dec 2003 at 01:56, SMS Webmaster wrote:
> 
> > I want to install the most easy and small smtp server in to my laptop 
> > (localhost) JUST to use it to send my emails
> > 
> > What is the best one ? ( I hope it is in the portage )

Not a server, but a command-line substitute for sendmail is
ssmtp.  mutt can use this quite well, but I don't know about the
fatter, GUI e-mail readers.

ssmtp uses one small config file: /etc/ssmtp.conf.  All it does
is forward to a smart host.

- richard

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RE: [gentoo-user] How to force reinstallation

2003-12-24 Thread Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower)
>-Original Message-
>From: Gerhard W.Gruber
>
>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:35:33 -0600, "Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower)"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>You shouldn't have to build and install Mesa. The program "opengl-update"
>>just changes some links from "/usr/lib" to another directory. The files
for
>>your "mesa" build are still there. Just not linked to "libGL" in
"/usr/lib".
>>FYI, the "mesa" files are built when you build xfree.
>
>I just noticed. Thanks. I now renamed the agpgart.o module so X can't find
it
>and now KDE works again. I really wonder about how it works. In my X-config
>file I have still fglrx, and the module is loaded, but it is no longer used
>since I disabled agpgart. But then how does X run? I thought I would have
to
>have at least change the module to radeon.

There are two modules built for X within the ati-drivers package. The
regular one and the DRI one. The regular one is for 2D stuff and it is
working for you. The DRI one is for OpenGL and is not working for you.

Did you install a new kernel version? FYI, you have to re-emerge ati-drivers
when you do that (because a kernel module is built within that package).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xmas

2003-12-24 Thread Brendan Sullivan
*w00t*

Merry Christmas to all.

Hey, anyone made a Xmas gentoo wallpaper? I'm not that good w/ Gimp, but
i know there are people out there who are ;)

On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 13:12, Jernej Zidar wrote:
> Merry Christmas to all Gentoo users!
> 
> JZIdar
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Re: [gentoo-user] partition resizing inside of Gentoo

2003-12-24 Thread Simon Kellett
On 16 Dec 2003 at 02:07, N. Owen Gunden wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:15:43PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > reading yet, but was wondering if there are tools that can both resize
> > and move existing partitions while they are potentially in use? 
> 
> GNU Parted is a pretty amazing partition editing tool.  I'm fairly
> certain it does *not* allow you to resize a partition while it is in
> use, unfortunately.
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/

If this *is* a problem then checkout "paud" (try freshmeat). It is a
mini-distro that fits on a single floppy and includes parted (you
download the 1.44Mb image under a working OS, make a floppy, boot it
and re-part you disks as required (I used it a few weeks ago to sort
out my Gentoo install when I created /boot partition too high up the
disk))

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Re: [gentoo-user] the smallest smtp server ?

2003-12-24 Thread Simon Kellett
On 14 Dec 2003 at 01:56, SMS Webmaster wrote:

> I want to install the most easy and small smtp server in to my laptop 
> (localhost) JUST to use it to send my emails
> 
> What is the best one ? ( I hope it is in the portage )

I have used masqmail for some time now SUSE 7.1. It is v. small and
simple - it emulates the sendmail interface, and provides a queue (it
is designed for a dial-up machine. I guess on a laptop you would need
this.

Unfortunatly it is not in portage but I just built it in /usr/local
with no problem (./configure, make, make install) a few weeks ago when
I moved to Gentoo !! (You can find it via Freshmeat)

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Re: [gentoo-user] netstat

2003-12-24 Thread Simon Kellett
On 18 Dec 2003 at 15:37, Spider wrote:

>  state would mean that it doesn't let the program terminate
> properly,

Nearly. IIRC a process is classed as a zombie when it *has* terminated
but no other process has collected the return code. All resources used
are freed up, except for a small entry in some kernel task list.

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Re: [gentoo-user] using gentoo to see partions

2003-12-24 Thread Lincoln A. Baxter
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 13:57, Chris wrote:
[snip]
> i guess i'll just keep trying dif combos until this thing finally mounts 
> winxp-vfat

Are you aware that the default XP partition is and NTFS file system?
vfat will never do it unless you have explicitly created the partition
as FAT.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xmas

2003-12-24 Thread Stefan Harrington-Palmer
You too :)

And everyone on the list.

Stefan
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> Merry Christmas to all Gentoo users!
> 
> JZIdar
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[gentoo-user] Xmas

2003-12-24 Thread Jernej Zidar
Merry Christmas to all Gentoo users!

JZIdar

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unsubscribe errors

2003-12-24 Thread Collins
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 08:17, W. Blaine Dowler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I unsubscribed from this list last week, including responding to the
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> message.  Then, overnight, I seem to have been somehow resubscribed.  I
> sent the unsubscribe message once again, but didn't get asked to confirm,
> and have been getting all of the list e-mails.  Does anyone know what's
> going on?  Has anyone else experienced this?  Is there an unsubscribe
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There was a major server outage in the past few days.  Try unsubscribing 
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Re: [gentoo-user] 'system' packages list; svscan & inittab

2003-12-24 Thread Alex Efros
Hi!

On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 05:59:01PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:11:40 +0200 Alex Efros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | 1. Why there is so many packages in 'system' list? Why not make
> | 'system'
> |list much smaller (like in LinuxFromScratch)? Is there exists
> |documentation which describe reason to include all these packages
> |in'system' list?
> 
> Well, you could make your own profile (/usr/portage/profiles/) with
> fewer things in it. Just don't blame us when it goes wrong :)

:-)) I understand this.

Gentoo try to allow people to configure it as much as possible, this is
Gentoo's philosophy! :-) I just try to point to another thing which may
be configurable - PAM support - and which now can't be configured in
legal/supported way because it's in 'system' list.

Also I think what there is probably too much 'system' packages
(comparing to LinuxFromScratch), and maybe it will be nice to exclude
some packages from 'system' list to make Gentoo much more configurable.

Some other software which may be removed from 'system' is:
1) gawk - there is a lot of different 'awk' realizations which user may
   want instead of gawk (I prefer 'mawk')
2) sysklogd - for example, I prefer 'multilog t /var/log/kernel 

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge: Invalid db entry

2003-12-24 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
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From: "Robert G.Waycott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge: Invalid db entry


>
> I, too, have this problem, although I have /dev support built into my
kernel. What, then?
>
> Bob
>

This is actually a bug in portage ...

There is fix but it means applying a "patch" to portage manually rather than
simply syncing to get the fix.  I refer you to this drawn out thread.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31881

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Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd ... in x86 stable!

2003-12-24 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
It doesn't justify not committing the fix to stable either.  Certainly, it
is not clear to anybody starting out that it is a cosmetic bug.  My point is
that it wasn't tested and it is not stable (although it is functional).

Tom Veldhouse

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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd ...
in x86 stable!

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:32:26 -0600 "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Nothing has worked.  However, what I need to know is if there is an
| actual process to fix this.  If not, the patch needs to be commited to
| "stable"(x86) ASAP or the current version of portage in stable needs
| to be revoked as unstable.

Why? It's a minor cosmetic bug that doesn't cause any data loss. That
doesn't justify making everyone downgrade.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd ... in x86 stable!

2003-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:32:26 -0600 "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Nothing has worked.  However, what I need to know is if there is an
| actual process to fix this.  If not, the patch needs to be commited to
| "stable"(x86) ASAP or the current version of portage in stable needs
| to be revoked as unstable.

Why? It's a minor cosmetic bug that doesn't cause any data loss. That
doesn't justify making everyone downgrade.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] 'system' packages list; svscan & inittab

2003-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:11:40 +0200 Alex Efros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| 1. Why there is so many packages in 'system' list? Why not make
| 'system'
|list much smaller (like in LinuxFromScratch)? Is there exists
|documentation which describe reason to include all these packages
|in'system' list?

Well, you could make your own profile (/usr/portage/profiles/) with
fewer things in it. Just don't blame us when it goes wrong :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge: Invalid db entry

2003-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:24:28 -0800 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Speaking of which, when will this ever be fixed?  Every newbie who
| comes along encounters this.  I even got it when reinstalling from
| Stage1 on a new machine.  Even with the instructions in bugzilla, it
| took several attempts before the problem went away permanently.

Speaking entirely from a vague memory of a conversation with carpaski on
irc that I think happened ('cos bugzilla's not loving me right now),
it's already fixed in everything after the current stable-on-x86
portage. But then, someone might have thrown the proverbial spork into
the works...

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[gentoo-user] slocate doesn't release memory

2003-12-24 Thread purslow
when i run 'slocate' as a cron job or via CLI,
it raises net memory usage from  c 60 MB  to  c 200 MB  & leaves it there
(ie 'used +/- buffers/cache' in 'free').  exiting X makes no difference,
but rebooting (naturally) restores the memory figure to the previous level.
i've checked the forum (search 'slocate') w/o finding any mention.
i am using the most updo-date version of 'slocate', ie 2.7-r2 .
i have  512 MB  DDR400 memory & an Athlon XP 2500+ processor.

has anyone else encountered this ?  any suggestions for preventing it ?

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[gentoo-user] Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd ... in x86 stable!

2003-12-24 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Hello all ... to the list .. welcome back after the unexplained hiatus.

Often, after an emerge of a particular package, I see this error:

Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd

I have followed all the directions according to the link below ... EXCEPT
for manually patching portage.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31881

Nothing has worked.  However, what I need to know is if there is an actual
process to fix this.  If not, the patch needs to be commited to "stable"
(x86) ASAP or the current version of portage in stable needs to be revoked
as unstable.

Is there anything I should do in the meantime?  I don't relish the patch
because of the possibility of the bug coming back if the package were
refreshed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] thunderbird and gtk-theme

2003-12-24 Thread Mental Patient
Eric Marchionni wrote:
hi,

after emerging the latest mozilla-thunderbird ebuild (v0.4) the 
appearance of
my email client is totally different: it shows up in a aqua gtk-theme. 


So how'd you emerge it? When I try to emerge it, it fails as a masked 
package. I'm running a current, stable system. Did you have to use 
ACCEPT_KEYWORD="~x86" or something? Thus far I've avoided doing that as 
I'm new to gentoo, and using ACCPET_KEYWORDS in the past has caused me 
problems.

Re: the gtk issue...

Is it using gtk1 or 2? There are 2 different rc files. Its just an idea.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unsubscribe errors

2003-12-24 Thread Dennis Freise
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:17:23 -0700
"W. Blaine Dowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I unsubscribed from this list last week, including responding to the 
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> the unsubscribe message once again, but didn't get asked to confirm, and have 
> been getting all of the list e-mails.  Does anyone know what's going on?  Has 
> anyone else experienced this?  Is there an unsubscribe method other than 
> sending a message to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"?

The server that hosted the gentoo mailing lists had some problems and was taken
offline, therefor you didn't receive mails for 5 days. Now, there is a new
server online for the lists, and I think they took a backup of the
list-subscriptions to get it running. That might explain why you've got
resubscribed. The new server seems to listen to lists.gentoo.org, not
gentoo.org, so please try to direct your unsubscribe to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know if that helps, I didn't
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unsubscribe errors

2003-12-24 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 16:17, W. Blaine Dowler wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I unsubscribed from this list last week, including responding to the 
> unsubscribe confirmation.  For about five days, I didn't receive a single 
> message.  Then, overnight, I seem to have been somehow resubscribed.  I sent 
> the unsubscribe message once again, but didn't get asked to confirm, and have 
> been getting all of the list e-mails.  Does anyone know what's going on?  Has 
> anyone else experienced this?  Is there an unsubscribe method other than 
> sending a message to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"?
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> Any help would be appreciated.
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There were problems with the list server it seems (no one received
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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting winxp-vfat

2003-12-24 Thread Norberto Bensa
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> On Tuesday 23 December 2003 02:38 pm, Chris wrote:
> >> just do a "mkdir /mnt/c" as root then try it
> >
> > had to reboot but it worked thanks
>
> It was not neccesary to reboot because of that.

Heh, he has been using Windows for so much time that "reboot for this change 
to take effect" is deeply impressed in his mind :-D

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Re: [gentoo-user] install confusion

2003-12-24 Thread Linux Gentoo
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:38:37 -0800
Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote the words:

> Did you configure (usually automatic when the livecd boots) your
> network/gateway and did you do an emerge sync or emerge rsync.  If you
> did then it will be looking for a newer version than you have on the
> cd, then fails to download the new one.   Look inside
> /usr/portage/disfiles and see what version is there.
> 

I should have mentioned that I don't have a network/gateway.  So
naturally I did not configure any such thing.  I'm trying to install
from the CDs with no internet involved.

So no, I am not doing emerge sync or emerge rsync.

On a unrelated note, do we reply at the top or the bottom of post on
this list?  Some people are pretty serious about this topic, and I hate
to tick off people, especially when I'm asking for help.  =)

Thank you
Adrian

> 
> On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 18:41, Linux Gentoo wrote:
> > Greetings all.  I am trying to install Gentoo, and not making
> > progress. I have no idea what I am doing wrong.  I have used and
> > installed Linux before, Debian & Mandrake, so I am not a total
> > newbie, but by no means do I claim to be a master of the command
> > line either.  Here is the deal.
> > 
> > I have the x86 and the P4 optimized versions, live CDs, both CDs for
> > each.  I have tried installing on two different computers, and from
> > stage 1 and from stage 2.  I end up with the same result:
> > 
> > couldn't download portage-2.0.49-r4.tar.bz2. aborting
> > 
> > I have the PDF install instructions printed out and I am following
> > along with them.  I assume I must be reading something wrong,
> > skipping a section or just a plain idiot
> > 
> > When I do the following commands -->
> > 
> > tar -xvjf /mnt/cdrom/snapshots/portage-20030911.tar.bz2 -C
> > /mnt/gentoo/usr
> > 
> > cp -R /mnt/cdrom/distfiles /mnt/gentoo/usr/protage/distfiles
> > 
> > cp -a /mnt/cdrom/packages /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/packages
> > 
> > --> suppose to arrange things so that I don't need to download this
> > portage file?  I've tried installing 5 times now, sure that I was
> > just missing a step.  Whatever it is, I keep right on missing it.
> > 
> > Can someone please knock me on the side of the head?
> > Thank you very much.
> > Adrian
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[gentoo-user] question about alsa-sound and aplay

2003-12-24 Thread Alex Koval
Hi

I am using alsa-sound and I have no idea how to mix sounds?

I read all manual on aplay, alsa-sound, searched google, and nothing 
helps, so I am asking
community..

Problem: I set 'sound' into my IM as 'aplay soundfile'.  When I listen to 
music
via XMMS, XMMS blocks the audio device. As result, I do not hear the sound 
from
my IM program (in fact, a number of aplay process are waiting in 
background until
XMMS is finished).

So, when I stop playing XMMS, it takes around 2-3 minutes to listen to all 
those sounds
which were waiting for several hours.

Question:
---
Does anybody know how to play sounds simultaneously (via some mixer???) so 
I will
hear both IM and XMMS player?

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Re: [gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

2003-12-24 Thread Robert G . Waycott


From: Cybercar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2003/12/24 Wed AM 09:19:56 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

Hi everyone, firt of all Merry Xmas

Well, Now I was going to try to copy a CD on K3B and I want to know
first if I have to Add the scsi-emulation on the kernel, or there's
other new way to do it on 2.6.0 kernel.

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Don't need scsi emulation in 2.6 kernel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Package question?

2003-12-24 Thread Robert G . Waycott


From: Vanh Phom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2003/12/24 Wed AM 12:25:03 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] Package question?

Hi All,
I'm a gentoo newbie. Recently I have emerges lots of packages including
xfce4. Is there a single package that contain all the related packages
for xfce4 (or any other package) so I don't have to sit in front of the
monitor and emerge every single one of them?

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Vanh, you can easily type all the packages you want to emerge on one line before 
pressing enter key. Such as:

# emerge xfce4-package1 xfce4-pkg2 etc etc etc etc

That ought to do it--granted the builds go properly and nothing fails, of course.

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Re: [gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

2003-12-24 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 24 Dec 2003 14:31, Redeeman wrote:
> the cdrom scsi emulation layer is broken in 2.6, but in advance, 2.6
> supports atapi burning

It works fine here

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 autoload

2003-12-24 Thread Robert G . Waycott


From: Cybercar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2003/12/24 Wed AM 07:16:16 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 autoload

Have you done the rc-update net.eth0 default ?
 
Merry Xmas
El mié, 24-12-2003 a las 13:02, Alexander Epifanov escribió:
> Hello,
> 
> In kernel 2.4 eepro100 was compiled as module and /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start worked 
> perfectly.
> But in 2.6 kernel eepro100 as module don't load automatically. why ?
> 
> PS:
>   gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.0
> 
> 
> Thanks.
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Correction: should be 'rc-update add net.eth0 default

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge: Invalid db entry

2003-12-24 Thread Robert G . Waycott


From: Cybercar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2003/12/24 Wed AM 06:56:35 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge: Invalid db entry

Which kernel are you using?
If you're using the 2.6.0 kernel add to it the devfs support.

Merry Xmas!
El mié, 24-12-2003 a las 12:55, Guy Van Sanden escribió:
> I now get this message when doing anything with emerge:
> 
> >>> Auto-cleaning packages ...
> !!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry:
> /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd
> 
> Does anyone know what this means?
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I, too, have this problem, although I have /dev support built into my kernel. What, 
then?

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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting winxp-vfat

2003-12-24 Thread mathieu perrenoud
Le Mercredi, 24 Décembre 2003 16.43, Robert G. Waycott a écrit :
> 
> From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/12/23 Tue PM 02:38:27 EST
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gentoo-user] mounting winxp-vfat
>
> I need to move some things from winxp-vfat-hda1-C to gentoo-hdb3 so I
> looked in the forums http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=29285 for a
> how to while the list was down the couple days and found one. It said to
> compile windows nonsence into the kernel (it was already compiled in so no
> prob there) then add a line to fstab so it can be mounted (/dev/hda1
> /mnt/cvfat  defaults,umask=000 0 0) is the one I chose
> since it gives me the most leway. On boot it gives the following error ;
> Mount:mountpoint /mnt/c does not exist.
>
> What could I have done wrong, I followed the instructions to the letter?

the error message is clear, and the solution trivial:
mkdir /mnt/c

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Re: [gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

2003-12-24 Thread mathieu perrenoud
Le Mercredi, 24 Décembre 2003 16.34, Collins a écrit :
> It's not necessary on the 2.6 kernels (even 2.4 at some point).  Just use
> 'cdrecord --scanbus dev=ATAPI:' - then use 'dev=ATAPI:x,y.z' depending on
> what you got back from scanbus.

you can even use the /dev device:
cdrecord -dev=/dev/cdroms/cdrom1

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Re: [gentoo-user] mounting winxp-vfat

2003-12-24 Thread Robert G . Waycott


From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2003/12/23 Tue PM 02:38:27 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] mounting winxp-vfat

I need to move some things from winxp-vfat-hda1-C to gentoo-hdb3 so I looked 
in the forums http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=29285 for a how to 
while the list was down the couple days and found one. It said to compile 
windows nonsence into the kernel (it was already compiled in so no prob 
there) then add a line to fstab so it can be mounted (/dev/hda1 
/mnt/cvfat  defaults,umask=000 0 0) is the one I chose 
since it gives me the most leway. On boot it gives the following error ; 
Mount:mountpoint /mnt/c does not exist.

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Sounds like you forgot to create the /mnt/c directory.

# mkdir /mnt/c

That ought to do it.


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[gentoo-user] 'system' packages list; svscan & inittab

2003-12-24 Thread Alex Efros
Hi!

I've used for about 2.5 years my own linux distribution based on ideas
from LinuxFromScratch, so I'm not a newbie in this area. At this time
I'm interested in Gentoo because I've no more time to support my own
distribution.

I want to compile and configure Gentoo in the way I use for my distribution,
and I've some question related to this:

1. Why there is so many packages in 'system' list? Why not make 'system'
   list much smaller (like in LinuxFromScratch)? Is there exists
   documentation which describe reason to include all these packages in
   'system' list?
   
   Here is one small example: I don't need and don't like PAM. But 'pam'
   and 'pam-login' is in 'system' list, so I can't compile Gentoo without
   PAM...

2. My distribution uses a lot of DJB's software like daemontools, qmail,
   djbdns... And I've installed in way recommended by DJB, i.e. "svscan"
   was executed from /etc/inittab (it's 100% reliable because if it died
   by some reason then "/sbin/init" process will restart it, so all my
   daemons guarantied to work while "/sbin/init" process exists and they
   don't depend on any bash scripts and /var/run/*.pid files).

   Is there exists a way in Gentoo to execute "svscan" from
   /etc/inittab instead of /etc/init.d/svscan and execute all other
   daemons under svscan/supervise control (instead of under /etc/init.d/*
   bash scripts plus /var/run/*.pid files control which is less reliable)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] x86+scsi problem

2003-12-24 Thread George Hernandez
On 12/23/03 8:07 PM, "George Hernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My
 Hello all.. Hopefully you guys can help me.
  for some reason my box stalls at /proc..
I am running 2.4.23 kernel..
Here is my grub.conf file...
 [grub.conf]
> 
> 
> default 0 
> timeout 30 
> splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> 
> title=Gentoo Linux
> root (hd0,0) 
> kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.23 root=/dev/sda3
> [end]
> 
> Here is my fstab..
> [fstab]
> /dev/sda1            /boot                    reiserfs     notail   1 1
> /dev/sda3           /                         reiserfs notail  0  0
> /dev/sda2          none                        swap        sw      0  0
> 
> [end]
> 
> But my box stalls at the following..
> [code]
> Mounting proc at /proc ..
> And it just hangs..
> [code]
> Before that I get the following msg:
> vfs: Mounted root(reiserfs filesystem) readonly
> mounted devfs on /dev
> 
> If that is any help.
> [/code]
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[gentoo-user] sudo-like behaviour

2003-12-24 Thread raptor
hi,

Is there a way to run enable some user to run remotely via ssh some commands, but 
forbid him shell access at all..
I mean I want to eneble him only :

ssh  [EMAIL PROTECTED] cmd1
ssh  [EMAIL PROTECTED] cmd2
ssh  [EMAIL PROTECTED] cmd3

i may enable sudo, but sudo is active after I give the user shell access, i don't want 
to give him shell access..

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 autoload

2003-12-24 Thread Alexander Epifanov
Why kernel 2.4 does't need eepro100 in this files ?

On 15:21 Wed 24 Dec , Cybercar wrote:
> So, you have to add the module which you want to load on boot in the
> file 2.4 if you have 2.4 or in the 2.6 if you Sorry, its my bad
> english
> 
> Byez
> El mi?, 24-12-2003 a las 15:13, Alexander Epifanov escribi?:
> > files /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4 and .../kernel-2.6 are empty.
> > 
> > On 14:28 Wed 24 Dec , Torsten Veller wrote:
> > > * Alexander Epifanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > In kernel 2.4 eepro100 was compiled as module and /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start 
> > > > worked perfectly.
> > > > But in 2.6 kernel eepro100 as module don't load automatically. why ?
> > > 
> > > Maybe you didn't add it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ?
> > > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

2003-12-24 Thread Collins
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 06:19, Cybercar wrote:
> Hi everyone, firt of all Merry Xmas
>
> Well, Now I was going to try to copy a CD on K3B and I want to know
> first if I have to Add the scsi-emulation on the kernel, or there's
> other new way to do it on 2.6.0 kernel.
>

It's not necessary on the 2.6 kernels (even 2.4 at some point).  Just use 
'cdrecord --scanbus dev=ATAPI:' - then use 'dev=ATAPI:x,y.z' depending on 
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Re: [gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

2003-12-24 Thread Redeeman
the cdrom scsi emulation layer is broken in 2.6, but in advance, 2.6
supports atapi burning


On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 15:19, Cybercar wrote:
> Hi everyone, firt of all Merry Xmas
> 
> Well, Now I was going to try to copy a CD on K3B and I want to know
> first if I have to Add the scsi-emulation on the kernel, or there's
> other new way to do it on 2.6.0 kernel.
> 
> Thank's all
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Re: [gentoo-user] Merry Christmas

2003-12-24 Thread Collins
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 05:38, Oliver Lange wrote:
> Merry Christmas to all of you !
>
> Have a good time, and thanks to all for your gracious
> help and patience with off-topic questions.
>
> Now put your keyboard away and have a good glass of whine (or whatever).
>

We have a good glass of whine almost every day on this list and most others 
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Re: [gentoo-user] CD's and MP3's

2003-12-24 Thread Redeeman
i have never had any problems ripping those cd's, but i found a way to
do it on a friends machine ;D

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=musiccd.iso

then you have the image of the cd, and then create entry in fstab, and
use the cdrom plugin for xmms and point to the iso mount point, and then
use the xmms wavout plugin to write wav files, and then use lame or
oggenc, and you are set ;D

On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 11:34, Paul Stear wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> A very merry xmas to all.
> 
> I bought my wife a couple of Cd's that I would like  and didn't realise 
> that they are copy protected but list that they can be played on a windows 
> machine.
> I convert all my Cd's into MP3 using grip and listen to them on my linux box.  
> Has anybody any info, tips, progs that will allow me to rip the Cd's? ( After 
> Christmas of course)
> I had vowed never to buy any copy protected Cd's for this very reason.  How do 
> people who only have MP3 players get on with these corrupt Cd's.
> 
> Any comments welcome
> regards
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[gentoo-user] thunderbird and gtk-theme

2003-12-24 Thread Eric Marchionni
hi,

after emerging the latest mozilla-thunderbird ebuild (v0.4) the 
appearance of
my email client is totally different: it shows up in a aqua gtk-theme. 
though
i have switched to this theme with switch2 (gtk-theme-switch) befor, 
thunderbird
didn't change it's appearance (that was absolut ok with me).
now how can i make thunderbird use the default gtk-theme? when i change to
the default with switch2, thunderbird still keeps the aqua theme :-/

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 autoload

2003-12-24 Thread Cybercar
So, you have to add the module which you want to load on boot in the
file 2.4 if you have 2.4 or in the 2.6 if you Sorry, its my bad
english

Byez
El mié, 24-12-2003 a las 15:13, Alexander Epifanov escribió:
> files /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4 and .../kernel-2.6 are empty.
> 
> On 14:28 Wed 24 Dec , Torsten Veller wrote:
> > * Alexander Epifanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > In kernel 2.4 eepro100 was compiled as module and /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start 
> > > worked perfectly.
> > > But in 2.6 kernel eepro100 as module don't load automatically. why ?
> > 
> > Maybe you didn't add it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ?
> > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge: Invalid db entry

2003-12-24 Thread Collins
On Wednesday 24 December 2003 04:11, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:55:25 +0100 Guy Van Sanden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> | I now get this message when doing anything with emerge:
> | >>> Auto-cleaning packages ...
> |
> | !!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry:
> | /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd
> |
> | Does anyone know what this means?
>
> It's a harmless little buglet in portage. It's safe to ignore it.


Speaking of which, when will this ever be fixed?  Every newbie who comes along 
encounters this.  I even got it when reinstalling from Stage1 on a new 
machine.  Even with the instructions in bugzilla, it took several attempts 
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[gentoo-user] K3B on 2.6.0

2003-12-24 Thread Cybercar
Hi everyone, firt of all Merry Xmas

Well, Now I was going to try to copy a CD on K3B and I want to know
first if I have to Add the scsi-emulation on the kernel, or there's
other new way to do it on 2.6.0 kernel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Merry Christmas

2003-12-24 Thread Redeeman
merry christmas!!!

On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 14:38, Oliver Lange wrote:
> Merry Christmas to all of you !
> 
> Have a good time, and thanks to all for your gracious
> help and patience with off-topic questions.
> 
> Now put your keyboard away and have a good glass of whine (or whatever).
> 
> Cheers..
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 autoload

2003-12-24 Thread Alexander Epifanov
files /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4 and .../kernel-2.6 are empty.

On 14:28 Wed 24 Dec , Torsten Veller wrote:
> * Alexander Epifanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > In kernel 2.4 eepro100 was compiled as module and /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start 
> > worked perfectly.
> > But in 2.6 kernel eepro100 as module don't load automatically. why ?
> 
> Maybe you didn't add it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ?
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 autoload

2003-12-24 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Alexander Epifanov wrote:

Hello,

In kernel 2.4 eepro100 was compiled as module and /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start worked 
perfectly.
But in 2.6 kernel eepro100 as module don't load automatically. why ?
PS:
 gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.0
 

run   "grep  eepro  /etc/modules.conf "if  u  don't  see

alias  eth0 eepro100

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 2.6 autoload

2003-12-24 Thread Torsten Veller
* Alexander Epifanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In kernel 2.4 eepro100 was compiled as module and /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start worked 
> perfectly.
> But in 2.6 kernel eepro100 as module don't load automatically. why ?

Maybe you didn't add it to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Merry Christmas

2003-12-24 Thread Jeff MacDonald
Happy holidays to all, including those that observe holidays besides
XMas.

Yes even the other athiests and agnostics :)

Jeff.

On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 09:38, Oliver Lange wrote:
> Merry Christmas to all of you !
> 
> Have a good time, and thanks to all for your gracious
> help and patience with off-topic questions.
> 
> Now put your keyboard away and have a good glass of whine (or whatever).
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] CD's and MP3's

2003-12-24 Thread Øyvind Stegard
Paul Stear wrote:

Hi all,

A very merry xmas to all.

I bought my wife a couple of Cd's that I would like  and didn't realise 
that they are copy protected but list that they can be played on a windows 
machine.
I convert all my Cd's into MP3 using grip and listen to them on my linux box.  
Has anybody any info, tips, progs that will allow me to rip the Cd's? ( After 
Christmas of course)
I had vowed never to buy any copy protected Cd's for this very reason.  How do 
people who only have MP3 players get on with these corrupt Cd's.

Any comments welcome
regards
Paul
 

Hello, merry xmas to you too. I have a couple of copy-protected audio 
CDs, which I've not been able to rip using Linux (tried CDDA2WAV & 
paranoia on two different, quite new, drives). But I've successfully 
ripped them in WinXP without doing anything special (my laptop declares 
war everytime I try to install Linux on it). I used Easy CD Creator, 
which just ignored all copy protection on the CDs and ripped them 
happily to proper WAV files (not talking about the WMA crap included on 
many of these CDs). This may be because of a different drive, but may 
also be software related, I don't know. I try to avoid all CD products 
that are sold in a damaged state.  Try different drives or try to rip 
them on an XP install, if that's possible for you.

Øyvind
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Re: [gentoo-user] Merry Christmas

2003-12-24 Thread Kurt Bechstein
Here here.


On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 08:38, Oliver Lange wrote:
> Merry Christmas to all of you !
> 
> Have a good time, and thanks to all for your gracious
> help and patience with off-topic questions.
> 
> Now put your keyboard away and have a good glass of whine (or whatever).
> 
> Cheers..
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Package question?

2003-12-24 Thread Oliver Lange
Vanh Phom wrote:
Hi All,
I'm a gentoo newbie. Recently I have emerges lots of packages including
xfce4. Is there a single package that contain all the related packages
for xfce4 (or any other package) so I don't have to sit in front of the
monitor and emerge every single one of them?
You normally don't need to do that.. if you enter 'emerge xyz', you'll get
the package inclusing all dependencies. I guess you're using a dial-up
connection and want to download everything in one go before installation ?
Then use 'emerge --fetchonly xyz', that'll download the packages without
installing. When done, enter 'emerge xyz' to install them.
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[gentoo-user] Merry Christmas

2003-12-24 Thread Oliver Lange
Merry Christmas to all of you !

Have a good time, and thanks to all for your gracious
help and patience with off-topic questions.
Now put your keyboard away and have a good glass of whine (or whatever).

Cheers..



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Re: [gentoo-user] Package question?

2003-12-24 Thread Spider
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:25:03 +
Vanh Phom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> I'm a gentoo newbie. Recently I have emerges lots of packages
> including
> xfce4. Is there a single package that contain all the related packages
> for xfce4 (or any other package) so I don't have to sit in front of
> the monitor and emerge every single one of them?

isn't "xfce4" the metapackage?


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Re: [gentoo-user] custom ebuilds`

2003-12-24 Thread Spider
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:42:49 +0100
mathieu perrenoud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 04.20, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:59:02 -0800 (PST) Stephen Turner
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | hey guys i was curious where and how to save custom ebuilds i
> > | wanted
> > | to emerge? thanks
> >
> > If they're from BMG, /dev/null is a good place.
> 
> what's wrong with BMG's ebuilds?


The bugs we get from users who come around wanting
-SHINEY-SPARKLE-NEW-BROKEN-BROKEN-BADQUALITY- ebuilds who then think
that its ok to bug us on things that they in their limited scope of mind
consider "unrelated" because its "not the package I got from BMG.


Guess what?  
REFORMAT YOUR SYSTEM. REDO. REINSTALL.

We've had a lot of trouble with end users who take this, shiney,
sparkly, new, and KNOWN BROKEN. thing, install it, realize its BROKEN,
remove the ebuild and fix something up, then two weeks later their
system breaks when compiling, and lo and behold... They still had that
bad header file there, or it was that development library lying around
that wasn't useful.


That, together with their usually way off syntax errors, Mangled
KEYWORDS  and totally broken DEPEND section, makes me abhor and loathe
BMG ebuilds. 


So, 
   I want a contract, written in your blood, on your soul and with the
skin peeled from your back as parchment that you promise to wipe your
whole harddrive before ever touching the Gentoo bugzilla again.

No, I don't care that you think you know what you are doing,  others
thought so too. Insisted on it even.  Did that help? 



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[gentoo-user] gentoo-sources 2.4.22-r2: distcc trouble

2003-12-24 Thread Oliver Lange
Hello everyone,

After installing 2.4.22-gentoo-r2 on two machines
(which are configured as distcc servers), I couldn't
compile anything with distcc anymore. When I used
-j5 with make, *masses* of errors appeared, e.g. like this:
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/include/stddef.h:1:40: invalid flag "usr" in line directive

Running make with -j1 ran well, but as soon as i started to
distribute, tons of errors were thrown.
However, I switched back to my previous kernel. I guess my next
try will be the new 2.6 kernel (somewhen)...
Cheers..



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