[gentoo-user] Re: DEPEND/RDEPEND search

2005-01-09 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 09 January 2005 01:53, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
 Exist a bash way to search a value (read package) inside
 DEPEND/RDEPEND variables defined in the ebuilds.
 If not which is the easyer way ?

I'm not sure to understand what are you looking for, but maybe unclepine 
is the tool for you:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=249828

Ciao
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Re: [gentoo-user] Login, Schmogin

2005-01-09 Thread John Lowell
Daniel Westermann-Clark wrote:

 What I really should have asked is:  Do you see the [ ok ] after
 Starting local..., or does the pause happen before that appears?

 If the [ ok ] appears quickly, then (stating the obvious) something
 after /etc/init.d/local is causing the pause.  It might be a problem
 with /sbin/agetty or /bin/login.

The [ok] appears right away with Starting local ... . Looks to you like
something in /sbin/agetty or /bin/login then?

 Can you please send the contents of /etc/inittab and /etc/pam.d/login?

I'll be sending you the contents of these files in a reply to this reply
right away, Daniel. Please don't ask me why I'm doing it this way. :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Login, Schmogin

2005-01-09 Thread John Lowell




John Lowell wrote:

  Daniel Westermann-Clark wrote:

  
  
What I really should have asked is:  Do you see the "[ ok ]" after
"Starting local...", or does the pause happen before that appears?

If the "[ ok ]" appears quickly, then (stating the obvious) something
after /etc/init.d/local is causing the pause.  It might be a problem
with /sbin/agetty or /bin/login.

  
  
The [ok] appears right away with "Starting local ... ". Looks to you like
something in /sbin/agetty or /bin/login then?

  
  
Can you please send the contents of /etc/inittab and /etc/pam.d/login?

  
  
I'll be sending you the contents of these files in a reply to this reply
right away, Daniel. Please don't ask me why I'm doing it this way. :-)

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Here are the files, Daniel, albeit in an unorthodox way. Your
indulgence is appreciated. :-) 

jlowell


#
# /etc/inittab:  This file describes how the INIT process should set up
#the system in a certain run-level.
#
# Author:  Miquel van Smoorenburg, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Modified by:  Patrick J. Volkerding, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Modified by:  Daniel Robbins, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Modified by:  Martin Schlemmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/inittab,v 1.6 2003/01/06 
21:32:43 azarah Exp $

#
# Default runlevel.
id:3:initdefault:

# System initialization, mount local filesystems, etc.
si::sysinit:/sbin/rc sysinit

# Further system initialization, brings up the boot runlevel.
rc::bootwait:/sbin/rc boot

l0:0:wait:/sbin/rc shutdown 
l1:S1:wait:/sbin/rc single
l2:2:wait:/sbin/rc nonetwork
l3:3:wait:/sbin/rc default
l4:4:wait:/sbin/rc default
l5:5:wait:/sbin/rc default
l6:6:wait:/sbin/rc reboot
#z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin

# TERMINALS
c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
c2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
c3:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
c4:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
c5:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
c6:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux

# What to do at the Three Finger Salute.
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -r now

# Used by /etc/init.d/xdm to control DM startup.
# Read the comments in /etc/init.d/xdm for more
# info. Do NOT remove, as this will start nothing
# extra at boot if /etc/init.d/xdm is not added
# to the default runlevel.
x:a:once:/etc/X11/startDM.sh

# End of /etc/inittab
#%PAM-1.0

auth   required /lib/security/pam_securetty.so
auth   required /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
auth   required /lib/security/pam_nologin.so

accountrequired /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth

password   required /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth

sessionrequired /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth
sessionoptional /lib/security/pam_console.so

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[gentoo-user] Re: Login, Schmogin

2005-01-09 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 09 January 2005 09:28, John Lowell wrote:
 Sad to say, it's about a week later and I've still no answer to a
 question I've raised here a couple times and on the forums also. I
 say this in no way to complain but rather to express utter surprize,
 actually. There's a lot of first class Linux talent available on this
 mailing list so if I've stumped you guys, I've really achieved
 something.

There are some more test to do on your side ;-)

 I've made a fresh, stage one install on a machine I intend to use as
 a webserver. I've done a lot of successful Gentoo installations so
 it's not as though I'm an amateur. The install went on without a
 hitch but, booting up, I reach the end of the init sequence and
 there's a delay of 22 seconds before Starting local ... transitions
 in to the usual This is .. and the login prompt. On my three
 workstations this transition take no time at all, it's virtually
 instantaneous. I have nothing in /etc/conf.d/start.local and my USE=
 is limited to -kde. pam is installed. I have no idea what in heaven's
 name would cause a delay of this kind. Is an answer to this problem
 really so obscure? God knows, maybe it is.

 jlowell

If you can exclude pam, you still should check

1) is lo device up and working? (I borked lo, time ago on a rh7 box 
and it took forever to do basilar tasks)

2) hostname dnsdomainname domainname and their config files; IMHO are 
really tricky to setup and can led to weird delays

As a last resort you can create a new runlevel and try to build it step 
by step to see what is delaying startup.

You may exploit /etc/conf.d/local.start not leaving it blank, and to do 
something really useful instead, such as redirecting ps verbose output 
to a file, or better, to start in background a watch task including 
ps...

If you have a serial terminal handy (many PDA have vt emulators) you can 
see if the problem is in /etc/inittab (agetty setup, for example)

HTH. Ciao
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[gentoo-user] Re: Monster emerge -- an odd thing or two

2005-01-09 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 09 January 2005 07:40, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 Having carefully backed up my whole root partition, I just embarked
 on the huge emerge that had built up in just the few days around the
 new years.  I was worried about Xorg, of course -- it was going to be
 a major pain if that didn't work.  In the event, everything seems
 fine, but there were some oddities, in my opinion.  It also seemed to
 replace much of KDE and a bunch of other things too.  38 steps.

 The oddities:

 For one thing, emerge first emerged xorg 6.8.0-r3, then downgraded it
 to xorg 6.7.0-r3, all in the same batch.  Anyone know why it does
 this? I'm running on 6.70 right now, with no noticeable difference
 from the earlier XFree, so I'm not complaining.  It just seems weird.
  Also very time-consuming.

If you sync your system once in a quarter you can expect strange 
behavior ;-)
Seriously: it can depend on the fact that the upgrade/update touched 
portage and/or profiles.

 For another, when it was done, and quite aside from the automatic
 trivial config merges, there were 291 config file changes that
 etc-update wanted me to scrutinize.  I don't have the attention span
 for that, so I looked at the 9 that I most nearly know what they do. 
 The rest I just told it to automerge, and I'm hoping for the best. 
 Is it really necessary to have 300 config files changed in a given
 update?  There just seems to be something unfriendly about that.

 ++ kevin

I put a signature as comment in every /etc/ file I edit, so it is 
easier to sort out which config files deserve _more_ attention.

IMHO, anyway you should better 
- sync your system more often
or
- plan big builds when you have time to look them after.

Again IMHO ten minutes saved in a blind etc-update with a -3 or -5 
switch don't worth hours trying to solve strange issues, and 
potentially rock solid system crawling...

Dispatch-conf may be better suited to your likings, tough...

Ciao
 Francesco

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[gentoo-user] Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: [gentoo-user] Login, Schmogin

2005-01-09 Thread Marc Ballarin
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 03:37:28 -0800
John Lowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...
 The [ok] appears right away with Starting local ... . Looks to you
 like something in /sbin/agetty or /bin/login then?

My wild guess would be some DNS issues. Does your /etc/hosts contain at
least:
127.0.0.1   localhost   your hostname here
?
If not, your machine could either timeout on DNS lookups or even trigger a
dialup to reach your nameserver.

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[gentoo-user] Not working tar -lcf - . | ssh system tar -xvpf -

2005-01-09 Thread Ow Mun Heng
How come this is not working??

portage $ tar -lcf - .  | ssh  -l root x.x.x.x  tar -xvpf - -C
/mnt/gentoo/usr/portage

tar: Bad Option: -xf.
Usage:  tar cmd [options] file1 ... filen

Use tar -help
and tar -xhelp
to get a list of valid cmds and options.

Use tar H=help
to get a list of valid archive header formats.

Use tar diffopts=help
to get a list of valid diff options.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DEPEND/RDEPEND search

2005-01-09 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Francesco Talamona wrote:
On Sunday 09 January 2005 01:53, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
 

Exist a bash way to search a value (read package) inside
DEPEND/RDEPEND variables defined in the ebuilds.
If not which is the easyer way ?
   

I'm not sure to understand what are you looking for, but maybe unclepine 
is the tool for you:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=249828
Ciao
Francesco
 

one shot one kill, it's exactly what I was searching for.
Ciao
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Re: [gentoo-user] Not working tar -lcf - . | ssh system tar -xvpf -

2005-01-09 Thread Marc Ballarin
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:09:34 +0800
Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How come this is not working??
 
 portage $ tar -lcf - .  | ssh  -l root x.x.x.x  tar -xvpf - -C
 /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage

Is the target machine running GNU tar as well? If so, this *should* work.

Alternatively, you can use 
$ scp -rp * [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/gentoo/usr/portage
or
$ scp -rp * -l root x.x.x.x:/mnt/gentoo/usr/portage

That's much more portable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Not working tar -lcf - . | ssh system tar -xvpf -

2005-01-09 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 18:59, Marc Ballarin wrote:
 On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:09:34 +0800
 Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  How come this is not working??
  
  portage $ tar -lcf - .  | ssh  -l root x.x.x.x  tar -xvpf - -C
  /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage
 
 Is the target machine running GNU tar as well? If so, this *should* work.
 

It's 2004.2 Gentoo LiveCD.

 Alternatively, you can use 
 $ scp -rp * [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/gentoo/usr/portage
 or
 $ scp -rp * -l root x.x.x.x:/mnt/gentoo/usr/portage
 

I know.. But that's slower compared to tar  or rsync

 That's much more portable.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DEPEND/RDEPEND search

2005-01-09 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux

 

Exist a bash way to search a value (read package) inside
DEPEND/RDEPEND variables defined in the ebuilds.
If not which is the easyer way ?
  

I'm not sure to understand what are you looking for, but maybe 
unclepine is the tool for you:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=249828
Ciao
Francesco
 

one shot one kill, it's exactly what I was searching for.
Ciao
 Francesco
spoken too fast as always, unclepine check dependancies of installed 
packages, I need a way to grep the portage tree DEPEND variables.
anyway it's an interesting tool, saved for later use ;)

I was thinking to something like:
find /usr/portage -name *.ebuild -exec grep -ls 
\sDEPEND=.*dev-db/mysql {} \;

but DEPEND variable span across multiple lines, and I don't know how to 
parse it :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] udev and cdrecorder permissions

2005-01-09 Thread YoYo Siska

Mitko Moshev wrote:
Makurin Roman wrote:

Hi All!
I`ve got a problem with udev and my cdrecorder permisions.
Cdrecorder is /dev/hdd, in /etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions
I found these lines:
sr*:root:cdrom:660
scd*:root:cdrom:660
pcd*:root:cdrom:0660
cdrom*:root:cdrom:0660
dvd:root:cdrom:0660
rdvd:root:cdrom:0660
cdroms/*:root:cdrom:0660
ls -l /dev/hdd:
brw-rw  1 root root 22, 64 Jan  8 18:26 /dev/hdd
ls -l /dev/cdroms/*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 6   8 18:26 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 - ../hdd
Since /dev/hdd is not accessible for cdrom group ordinary users can`t write to 
it.

How can I fix this problem ?


Umm Looking at that output, I'd say it's plent accessible.
the owner (root) and the group (cdrom) both have read and write 
permissions, so I don't see any problem. If you want to access the cdrom 
just add yourself to the cdrom group.
it says root root...
look at the udev rules for hdb (hd* ?), becase those rules you listed 
tell only about /dev/cdroms/cdrom0, which is a symlink and perms on it 
therefore don't have   any effect

you can chceck also /etc/security/console.perms, pam changes the perms 
after someone logs into a console (X) and after he logs out..

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Re: [gentoo-user] Monster emerge -- an odd thing or two

2005-01-09 Thread Heinz Sporn
If you have an ATI card the downgrade to Xorg 6.7 would be clear. The 
ati-drivers package simply depends on Xorg 6.7. It is said ATI will 
deliver a set of drivers supporting Xorg 6.8 (and DRI) this month. In 
the meantime you could either go with 6.7 or re-emerge 6.8 but forget 
DRI for the moment (and yes it is working).

291 config files: how long didn't you update your machine?
Kevin O'Gorman schrieb:
Having carefully backed up my whole root partition, I just embarked on
the huge emerge that had built up in just the few days around the
new years.  I was worried about Xorg, of course -- it was going to be
a major pain if that didn't work.  In the event, everything seems fine, but
there were some oddities, in my opinion.  It also seemed to replace
much of KDE and a bunch of other things too.  38 steps.
The oddities:
For one thing, emerge first emerged xorg 6.8.0-r3, then downgraded it
to xorg 6.7.0-r3, all in the same batch.  Anyone know why it does this?
I'm running on 6.70 right now, with no noticeable difference from the
earlier XFree, so I'm not complaining.  It just seems weird.  Also very
time-consuming.
For another, when it was done, and quite aside from the automatic
trivial config merges, there were 291 config file changes that etc-update
wanted me to scrutinize.  I don't have the attention span for that, so
I looked at the 9 that I most nearly know what they do.  The rest I just
told it to automerge, and I'm hoping for the best.  Is it really necessary
to have 300 config files changed in a given update?  There just seems
to be something unfriendly about that.
++ kevin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Login, Schmogin

2005-01-09 Thread Heinz Sporn
Had the same problem yesterday. The answer was simple: the system was 
not able to resolve it's own hostname XY via DNS (understandable). After 
putting it into /etc/hosts

127.0.0.1 localname XY
everything went fine.
John Lowell schrieb:
Sad to say, it's about a week later and I've still no answer to a 
question I've raised here a couple times and on the forums also. I say 
this in no way to complain but rather to express utter surprize, 
actually. There's a lot of first class Linux talent available on this 
mailing list so if I've stumped you guys, I've really achieved something.
 
I've made a fresh, stage one install on a machine I intend to use as a 
webserver. I've done a lot of successful Gentoo installations so it's 
not as though I'm an amateur. The install went on without a hitch but, 
booting up, I reach the end of the init sequence and there's a delay of 
22 seconds before Starting local ... transitions in to the usual This 
is .. and the login prompt. On my three workstations this transition 
take no time at all, it's virtually instantaneous. I have nothing in 
/etc/conf.d/start.local and my USE= is limited to -kde. pam is 
installed. I have no idea what in heaven's name would cause a delay of 
this kind. Is an answer to this problem really so obscure? God knows, 
maybe it is.
 
jlowell
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Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp jpeg HELP

2005-01-09 Thread Heinz Sporn
Well, then good luck then. ;-)
Vittorio schrieb:
Heinz:

Well, I am sorry Vittorio but I am not sure if you understand the
concept of the magic USE flag right. 

Apparently I didn't understand that!

Let me put it this way: 
1. Look into your /etc/make.conf
2. Check if the line starting with USE= contains the string jpeg
I now have a richer USE line in 
make.conf 
USE=-java -gnome jpeg tiff gimpprint
 

3. Remove all occurences of -jpeg in that file
4. Run an emerge -pvV gimp
5. Does it now come up with +jpeg or -jpeg ???

With +jpeg*

6. And please forget that echo $USE stuff ;-)
Wrongly I had put the above USE line in a file under /etc/env.d to be executed 
as an environmental variable. My mistake! Thanks for shedding a light on it!!

Tomorrow I'll have another compilation of the Gimp.


Vittorio schrieb:
Perhaps I'm somewhat slow or I don't understand how to use emerge
correctly but ... as I stated my USE :
-
# echo $USE
-java -gnome kde dvd cdr alsa jpeg tiff jpeg tiff gimpprint
-
*** contains *** the jpeg (and tiff and gimpprint) flag.
Therefore, in a nutshell, I don't understand where I am wrong according
to you.
Ciao
Vittorio
Alle 19:52, sabato 8 gennaio 2005, Heinz Sporn ha scritto:
Again: perform an
emerge -pvV gimp
It should come up with something like:
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/gimp-2.0.4  +aalib (-altivec) -debug -doc
gimpprint* +jpeg +mmx* -mng* +png +python +sse* -svg* +tiff -wmf*
Notice the +jpeg flag. If you have -jpeg then run
USE=jpeg emerge gimp
exactly as stated here.
Vittorio schrieb:
I didn't succeed!
I had a go with:
# echo $USE
-java -gnome kde dvd cdr alsa jpeg tiff jpeg tiff gimpprint
# emerge unmerge gimp To be on the safe side!!!
# emerge -b gimp
BUT I'm still unable to open a jpg file (of the hundreds I used to work
with!!) under the Gimp (unknown file)!
Please help
Vittorio
Alle 19:31, venerdì 7 gennaio 2005, Heinz Sporn ha scritto:
Look at the output of emerge -pvV gimp. You'll notice that it uses
the jpeg flag. So either perform
USE=jpeg emerge gimp
or add jpeg to your USE flags in /etc/make.conf and emerge Gimp
again.
Vittorio schrieb:
Dear All,
I compiled gimp 2.0.4 from the latest stage1 but it doesn't support
jpeg files requiring an extra library.
Therefore I've just compiled the media-libs/jpeg library from stage1
but gimp is still unable to open jpeg files.
What else should I compile?
Thanks
Vittorio
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[gentoo-user] ps ax stuck process, help :)

2005-01-09 Thread Dave S
Hello,
I was editing package.keywords on ctrl,alt f1 vith vim
I know I pressed a ctrl- ? (opps it may have been f or s)  the terminal 
has totaly locked :-(

I tried the usual, Esc etc, I tried everything.
I did a ps ax
2762 tty1 S+ 0:00 vi package.keywords
followed by a
kill 2762
It still stays alive !
followed by a
kill -9 2762
That killed it but my terminal is still frozen.
I remember someting about terminal ctrl codes freezing output in one of 
my linux books but cannot find it again. I could be wrong but I suspect 
I just have to ctrl - something to unlock it.

Any ideas ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update difficult?

2005-01-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 17:34, Holly Bostick wrote:
On the other 
hand, I can't understand how to use dispatch-conf at all.
Why would that be the case? The way you described etc-update, to me it
seems the same as dispatch-conf. 
I know dispatch-conf does the same thing, but it does it a different 
way, and I don't understand the output (it displays diffs, for example, 
in such a way that I can't recognize which is which, and I don't easily 
see the commands to select one or the other). I admit this is my problem 
and likely not some fault with dispatch-conf, but I can understand 
etc-update on first sight, whereas dispatch-conf, I can't, which seems 
odd to me, and tends to turn me off it.
Admitedly there are minor differences, but both of it does the same job
and it's roughly the same process.
On rare occasions, there's something I want from 
both blocks and getting the new settings means removing a line from the 
old that I think I want. This doesn't happen often, and when it does is 
limited to one line, or a few easily recognizable lines, that I then 
edit manually after finishing the operation on the file. That really 
In dispatch-conf, there's an option to interactively merge the
difference between both files and choose which gets merged into the
final file. It also splits into 2 sides via a vertical line and you
choose left or right.
Yes, of course, you can do that in etc-update as well. My issue was, 
suppose the block of the individual diffs comprises 6 lines. In the 
original, there are 3 blank lines, one line containing a setting, and 
one two-line comment.

In the new file, there are 4 blank lines and one two-line comment.
If I want to both adjust the comment (from the diff) and keep the 
setting (from the original), I have to edit the file manually, because 
merging the diff refers to merging blocks from one with blocks from 
the other, not merging line-by-line (which is, admittedly, manual editing).

This is not a problem (because the one setting line I want to also add 
is just one line, and easily recognized, so not difficult to copy and 
paste), and this issue does not come up often by any stretch of the 
imagination, but is occasionally necessary, thus something to keep an 
eye out for, that's all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] fetchmail not flushing yahoo pop3

2005-01-09 Thread Jane
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 08:46 -0700, D. Wokan wrote:
 Yahoo does allow POP3 access as a paid-for add-on feature.
 
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No, you don't have to pay for POP3 access to yahoo mail accounts.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Palm/Visor + Gnome 2 + Evo 2 + gpilotd Problems...

2005-01-09 Thread Heinz Sporn
Ok. I deleted the original Pilot entry from Pilot Settings. Restarted 
gpilotd-control-applet and added the Tungsten again which went fine. The 
terminal output was as follows:

** Message: No pilot userid/username information located
** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset
** Message: Cradle Type - USB
** Message: cradle device name - Cradle
** Message: cradle device name - /dev/usb/tts/1
** Message: Pilot Speed  - 115200
** Message: Timeout - 2
gpilotd-Message: Activating object OAFIID:GNOME_Pilot_Daemon
** Message: No pilot userid/username information located
** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset
** Message: Cradle Type - USB
** Message: cradle device name - Cradle
** Message: cradle device name - /dev/usb/tts/1
** Message: Pilot Speed  - 115200
** Message: Timeout - 2
Strange thing though: after closing the applet, /usr/libexec/gpilotd 
kept running and prevented jPilot to synchronize. I remember that in 
earlier Gnome versions there was a small applet that allowed me to turn 
that thing on and off allowing other applications to talk to the Palm.

Nevertheless synchronizing with Gnome/Evolution didn't change a thing. 
Except for contacts everything is simply ignored.

Since your problem seems to be more technical we should propably compare 
our environments:

As of January 8th I am running a 99% stable Gentoo with kernel 2.6.9 and 
Gnome 2.8.2. The only unstable package regarding our problem is:

app-pda/jpilot 0.99.7-r1
The rest:
app-pda/pilot-link 0.11.8
app-pda/gnome-pilot-conduits 2.0.10-r1
mail-client/evolution 2.0.2
The hardware (kern.log after inserting the Palm):
Jan  9 14:27:41 spok kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1f.2: port 1 portsc 0093
Jan  9 14:27:41 spok kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: port 1, status 0101, change 
0001, 12 Mb/s
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: debounce: port 1: total 100ms 
stable 100ms status 0x101
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: uhci_hcd :00:1f.2: CTRL: TypeReq=0x2301 
val=0x2 idx=0x0 len=0 == -32
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using 
address 19
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: new device strings: Mfr=1, 
Product=2, SerialNumber=5
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: default language 0x0409
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: Product: Palm Handheld
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc.
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: SerialNumber: PalmSN12345678
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: hotplug
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: adding 1-1:1.0 (config #1, 
interface 0)
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1:1.0: hotplug
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usbserial_generic 1-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usbserial_generic 1-1:1.0: 
usb_probe_interface - got id
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: visor 1-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: visor 1-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: visor 1-1:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB0
Jan  9 14:27:42 spok kernel: usb 1-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB1

That's it.
David D. Rea schrieb:
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 00:37 +0100, Heinz Sporn wrote:
I do have a similar issue here. My Tungsten E synchronizes perfectly 
with jPilot. With Evolution only contacts are somewhat working. Memos / 
calender are simply ignored. Not even an initial forced copy from Palm 
to Evolution works - no warnings no errors.

So at least I guess we are not alone ;-)

OK, let's try an experiment to see if we're really on the same page. Run
`gpilotd-control-applet` from a terminal window, and see what the output
looks like when you try to set up a new Pilot and click Get ID from
Pilot or whatever the button says...
If you see the following on the terminal output, we are indeed in the
same boat:
(gpilotd-control-applet:8611): gpilotd-WARNING **:
gnome-pilot-client.gob:484: Caught exception:
IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
Then we will figure out what's going on - WE SHALL EMERGE VICTORIOUS!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Palm/Visor + Gnome 2 + Evo 2 + gpilotd Problems...

2005-01-09 Thread Heinz Sporn
I made real progress - and it is embarrassing how. I simply overlook a 
tiny checkbox in Evolution titled Personal. So I am fine now 

David D. Rea schrieb:
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 00:37 +0100, Heinz Sporn wrote:
I do have a similar issue here. My Tungsten E synchronizes perfectly 
with jPilot. With Evolution only contacts are somewhat working. Memos / 
calender are simply ignored. Not even an initial forced copy from Palm 
to Evolution works - no warnings no errors.

So at least I guess we are not alone ;-)

OK, let's try an experiment to see if we're really on the same page. Run
`gpilotd-control-applet` from a terminal window, and see what the output
looks like when you try to set up a new Pilot and click Get ID from
Pilot or whatever the button says...
If you see the following on the terminal output, we are indeed in the
same boat:
(gpilotd-control-applet:8611): gpilotd-WARNING **:
gnome-pilot-client.gob:484: Caught exception:
IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
Then we will figure out what's going on - WE SHALL EMERGE VICTORIOUS!
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Re: [gentoo-user] ps ax stuck process, help :)

2005-01-09 Thread James Hiscock
 I remember someting about terminal ctrl codes freezing output in one of
 my linux books but cannot find it again. I could be wrong but I suspect
 I just have to ctrl - something to unlock it.

If you did hit CTRL+S, then hit CTRL+Q to unlock it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Login, Schmogin

2005-01-09 Thread Daniel Westermann-Clark
On 2005-01-09 03:47:04 -0500, John Lowell wrote:
 Here are the files, Daniel, albeit in an unorthodox way. Your
 indulgence is appreciated. :-)

Those files look okay.

Like a few others have suggested, check that your /etc/hostname (e.g.
server1) and /etc/dnsdomainname (e.g. example.com) are set correctly and
that your FQDN (server1.example.com) and short hostname (server1) are
listed in /etc/hosts.

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[gentoo-user] nxclient unmasked, servers masked..?

2005-01-09 Thread fire-eyes
I'm looking at nxclient, and realize I need a server too. However both
nxserver-enterprise and nxserver-business are masked. Oh and
nxserver-personal is masked, too.

nxserver-freenx is unmasked, but I have no idea if this will do the
task, and the URL listed in esarch doesn't exist.

Anyone know how I get nx working in gentoo?
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Re: [gentoo-user] The only things keeping me using Windows

2005-01-09 Thread Subiaco
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/08/2129250from=rss

HTH

On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 13:11 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 emerge net-www/netscape-flash
 
 On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 14:05 -0500, Alec wrote:
  Jamie Dobbs wrote:
  
   he only software keeping me using Windows is:
  
   DreamWeaver   -   I just love its ease of use and power.
  
  KDE's own Quanta
  And someone's NVU, which is Mozilla Composer with more 
  DreamWeaver-like features.
  
   All the stuff from www.popcap.com as I love fun, quirky little games. 
   Yes I guess I could play the flash versions of the games - is there 
   any way these can be 'downloaded' so I don't have to be on the 'Net to 
   play them? But I'd prefer Linux equivalents (I know, not much chance 
   there!)
  
  flash games*shudders*.  You'd have to go to Flash's site and get 
  their Moz/Opera/Foo plugin and install it.  Relatively painless, just a 
  script to run, and you need to know where your browser is installed.  
  Not sure if there is an ebuild, but if there is I'm pretty sure it's 
  fetch restricted.
  
   So if anyone can give me any pointers to software for Gentoo that will 
   let me get rid of Windows and just use Linux then I'd appreciate it.
  
   I should note that because of issues in the past I'm not keen on 
   anything not in the stable branch of Gentoo. :-) (But I'm prepared to 
   be told that I have nothing to worry about should I try again)
  
   Cheers
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] kdeartwork-3.3.2 failing compilation

2005-01-09 Thread Vittorio
Alle 00:29, domenica 9 gennaio 2005, Sascha Hlusiak ha scritto:
 Vittorio schrieb:
  I have been building my own gentoo box from scratch with the latest
  stage1.
 
  Now, I'm compiling everything and the kde stuff with the following USE
  variable
 
  # echo $USE
  -java -gnome kde dvd cdr alsa jpeg tiff jpeg tiff gimpprint
 
  BUT
 
  kdeartwork fails during compilation. Here it is an extract of the
  session:
 
  ...
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x2e59): In function 
`EuphoriaWidget::updateParameters()':
  : undefined reference to `glTexParameteri'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x2e77): In function 
`EuphoriaWidget::updateParameters()':
  : undefined reference to `glTexParameteri'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x2e90): In function 
`EuphoriaWidget::updateParameters()':
  : undefined reference to `glTexParameteri'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x2ea4): In function 
`EuphoriaWidget::updateParameters()':
  : undefined reference to `glTexParameteri'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x2ef5): In function 
`EuphoriaWidget::updateParameters()':
  : undefined reference to `glTexImage2D'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x3105): In function 
`EuphoriaWidget::updateParameters()':
  : undefined reference to `gluBuild2DMipmaps'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x316e): In function 
`EuphoriaWidget::updateParameters()':
  : undefined reference to `glDeleteTextures'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x1591): In function `wisp::draw()':
  : undefined reference to `glPopMatrix'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x18c4): In function `wisp::drawAsBackground()':
  : undefined reference to `glPopMatrix'
 
  Euphoria.o(.text+0x2947): In function `EuphoriaWidget::resizeGL(int, 
int)':
  : undefined reference to `glTranslatef'
 
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  make[4]: *** [keuphoria.kss] Error 1
  make[4]: Leaving directory
  `/var/tmp/portage/kdeartwork-3.3.2/work/kdeartwork-3.
  make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[3]: Leaving directory
  `/var/tmp/portage/kdeartwork-3.3.2/work/kdeartwork-3.
  make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[2]: Leaving directory
  `/var/tmp/portage/kdeartwork-3.3.2/work/kdeartwork-3.
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory
  `/var/tmp/portage/kdeartwork-3.3.2/work/kdeartwork-3.
  make: *** [all] Error 2
 
  !!! ERROR: kde-base/kdeartwork-3.3.2 failed.
  !!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 142, Exitcode 2
  !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
  .
 ...
 
  Please help.

 I know these errors from compiling some packages with nvidia driver
 installed, which offers own libraries and include files.

 Switch to the xorg opengl interface with:
  opengl-update xorg-x11
 Then compiling should work good, when it is finished, you can just call
  opengl-update nvidia
 to activate the nvidia interface. If you don't have a nvidia board,
 please tell me your card and which kind of driver you have installed.


Sasha,
I made it, at last!! I mean the compilation.

I don't have a nvidia chipset. 
lspci tells the following:
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon 
Mobility 7500]

What should the last step be?

Thanks for the helpful suggestion!

Vittorio

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdeartwork-3.3.2 failing compilation

2005-01-09 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Please help.
I know these errors from compiling some packages with nvidia driver
installed, which offers own libraries and include files.
Switch to the xorg opengl interface with:
opengl-update xorg-x11
Then compiling should work good, when it is finished, you can just call
opengl-update nvidia
to activate the nvidia interface. If you don't have a nvidia board,
please tell me your card and which kind of driver you have installed.

Sasha,
I made it, at last!! I mean the compilation.
I don't have a nvidia chipset. 
lspci tells the following:
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon 
Mobility 7500]

What should the last step be?
I see that opengl-update can handle the ati drivers. So you should be 
able to switch to the xorg-x11 opengl implementation with
	opengl-update xorg-x11
compile, and switch back to ati with
	opengl-update ati

I hope, this works. I don't have an ATI.
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Re: [gentoo-user] nxclient unmasked, servers masked..?

2005-01-09 Thread fire-eyes
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 16:22 +0100, meax wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I dont' kow if this helps (haven't played with nx myself), but did you
 look at the gentoo guide:
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nx-guide.xml
 
 HTH
 max

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[gentoo-user] Problem with 2004.3-r1 universal live cd image

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin
Hi All-

I'm having some installation problems that are associated with the
subject CD image:

install-x86-universal-2004.3-r1.iso

I recently downloaded and burned this iso image to CD.  I checked the
gpg signature and md5sum before and after burning and they were both ok.

On two very different hardware platforms, I've used this image to
install Gentoo systems and either during or after installation (or
both), I've seen these problems:

Various emerge -v X commands have failed with segfaults and messages
along the lines of, ...not reproducible so probably hardware or OS
related

In one case, even the tar -xvjpf stage3-... command segfaulted.  I
managed to get it to complete after several tries and by removing the
-v flag (for some odd reason, the -v definitely has an impact on
whether or not segfaults occur on both boxes with either tar or emerge).
In this case (with the tar files), I md5sum'ed the stage3 bzipped
tarfiles and they were ok, but bzip2 -vvt reported integrity problems
(with the one I wanted and all the others on the CD also, except for one
of them).  Later, running bzip2 -vvt reported no integrity problems, so
I went ahead with the tar -xjpf command without problem.  Clearly,
something is inherently unstable here because running the same command
(bzip2 -vvt) on the same file stage3-whatever fails at one point in time
and succeeds at another (no reboot in between).

I've also seen kernel Oops and kernel panics.

The two hardware platforms were:

1) An eMachines T2824 desktop computer.  Specifications:
-Intel Celeron D 325 Processor (2.53 GHz, 256k L2 Cache, 533 MHz FSB);
-Intel 845GV Chipset
-8-in-1 Digital Media Manager (USB 2.0, Secure Digital (SD), Smart
 Media, Compact Flash, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, Micro Drive,
 Multimedia Card)
-standard 256 MB DDR (PC 2100) RAM replaced with 1024 MB of same
-http://www.emachines.com/support/support_info.html?prodName=T2824
 for others if you're interested.

I used the stage3-pentium4 tarfile for this.  I'm really not sure if
that's right or if I should be using one of the others (i686?  pentium3?
x86?  With Celeron processors, how does one decide which CFLAGS and
binaries to use?).  I chose pentium4 because memtest86+ v1.11 reported
the CPU as a pentium4 and I've seen some hints that some Celeron
processors are Pentium-4 flavors.

2) A very old Cyrix 6x86 with 132 MB RAM, using the stage3-x86 tarfile.

I have run memtest86 and memtest86+ on both boxes (at least 10 passes
each) and discovered no errors with the memory in either case.
Interestingly (at least to me), memtest86+ v1.3 reports FSB at 133 MHz
rather than 533 MHz.  Could this be a clue as to the cause of the
problems?

Does anyone have any thoughts on what's causing this strange behavior?

I installed first on the eMachines box and suspected hardware problems,
but the segfaults were not so frequent that I could not proceed, so
whenever I encountered one, I just ran the command again until it
completed successfully and figured I could troubleshoot the hardware
more later, after the base install.

But now that I've seen the same sorts of problems on this Cyrix 6x86
CPU, I'm less inclined to think hardware problems and more inclined to
think that there may be some problem with the software on the subject
iso image.

Has anyone else encountered this?  Any ideas as to what else could be
the problem if not the memory?  As I said, the md5sum is fine on the cd
image, the cd itself, and various tar files on the cd.  Is there another
hardware component that could be causing this (aside from the memory).

TIA for any thoughts.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdeartwork-3.3.2 failing compilation

2005-01-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Sascha Hlusiak wrote:
I see that opengl-update can handle the ati drivers. So you should be 
able to switch to the xorg-x11 opengl implementation with
opengl-update xorg-x11
compile, and switch back to ati with
opengl-update ati

I hope, this works. I don't have an ATI.
I do (have an ATI card). It does (work)--- assuming all went well with 
the ati binary driver install; I don't know if this command is 
appropriate if one is using the kernel 'radeon' drivers, which use MESA, 
afaik. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] kdeartwork-3.3.2 failing compilation

2005-01-09 Thread Sascha Hlusiak

Holly Bostick schrieb:
Sascha Hlusiak wrote:
I see that opengl-update can handle the ati drivers. So you should be 
able to switch to the xorg-x11 opengl implementation with
opengl-update xorg-x11
compile, and switch back to ati with
opengl-update ati

I hope, this works. I don't have an ATI.
I do (have an ATI card). It does (work)--- assuming all went well with 
the ati binary driver install; I don't know if this command is 
appropriate if one is using the kernel 'radeon' drivers, which use MESA, 
afaik. ;-)
This is covered by the xorg-x11 opengl subsystem, like on my notebook, 
which uses the Intel I915 kernel module. I only have the xorg-x11 subsystem.
opengl-update is needed, when one has different opengl-headers and 
opengl-libs installed, like with nvidia and ati drivers.

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[gentoo-user] OT: Small fonts when printing webpages from Konqueror

2005-01-09 Thread Christoph Eckert

Hi,


my girlfriend likes to print webpages for some reason.

Unfortunately, text is printed out very small, maybe 8 points 
is the size.

In kwrite there are settings for the textsize for display and 
print, but I didn't find a similar option in Konqueror.

Anyone a small hint for me?


 Thanks  best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] THE .muttrc color definition set

2005-01-09 Thread purslow
050108 Grant wrote:
 I just plugged in a set of color definitions for the .muttrc file
  it sure is cool.  Can anyone point me toward their favorite?

running on Konsole with a normally white background, i have :

  color normal black default
  color message black default
  color error red default
  color indicator red default
  color status cyan default
  color index blue default ~A
  color index green default ~U
  color index black default ~D

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RE: [gentoo-user] Problem with 2004.3-r1 universal live cd image

2005-01-09 Thread Charlie Gehlin
Been there too :(
Really, boot a memtest86 kernel and test your hw.
#emerge memtest86
Don't remember if there is any memtest-option on the LiveCD...?

Cheers!
/C

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 9 januari 2005 17:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] Problem with 2004.3-r1 universal live cd image

Hi All-

I'm having some installation problems that are associated with the subject
CD image:

install-x86-universal-2004.3-r1.iso

I recently downloaded and burned this iso image to CD.  I checked the gpg
signature and md5sum before and after burning and they were both ok.

On two very different hardware platforms, I've used this image to install
Gentoo systems and either during or after installation (or both), I've seen
these problems:

Various emerge -v X commands have failed with segfaults and messages along
the lines of, ...not reproducible so probably hardware or OS related

In one case, even the tar -xvjpf stage3-... command segfaulted.  I managed
to get it to complete after several tries and by removing the -v flag (for
some odd reason, the -v definitely has an impact on whether or not
segfaults occur on both boxes with either tar or emerge).
In this case (with the tar files), I md5sum'ed the stage3 bzipped tarfiles
and they were ok, but bzip2 -vvt reported integrity problems (with the one I
wanted and all the others on the CD also, except for one of them).  Later,
running bzip2 -vvt reported no integrity problems, so I went ahead with the
tar -xjpf command without problem.  Clearly, something is inherently
unstable here because running the same command
(bzip2 -vvt) on the same file stage3-whatever fails at one point in time and
succeeds at another (no reboot in between).

I've also seen kernel Oops and kernel panics.

The two hardware platforms were:

1) An eMachines T2824 desktop computer.  Specifications:
-Intel Celeron D 325 Processor (2.53 GHz, 256k L2 Cache, 533 MHz FSB);
-Intel 845GV Chipset
-8-in-1 Digital Media Manager (USB 2.0, Secure Digital (SD), Smart  Media,
Compact Flash, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, Micro Drive,  Multimedia
Card) -standard 256 MB DDR (PC 2100) RAM replaced with 1024 MB of same
-http://www.emachines.com/support/support_info.html?prodName=T2824
 for others if you're interested.

I used the stage3-pentium4 tarfile for this.  I'm really not sure if that's
right or if I should be using one of the others (i686?  pentium3?
x86?  With Celeron processors, how does one decide which CFLAGS and binaries
to use?).  I chose pentium4 because memtest86+ v1.11 reported the CPU as a
pentium4 and I've seen some hints that some Celeron processors are
Pentium-4 flavors.

2) A very old Cyrix 6x86 with 132 MB RAM, using the stage3-x86 tarfile.

I have run memtest86 and memtest86+ on both boxes (at least 10 passes
each) and discovered no errors with the memory in either case.
Interestingly (at least to me), memtest86+ v1.3 reports FSB at 133 MHz
rather than 533 MHz.  Could this be a clue as to the cause of the problems?

Does anyone have any thoughts on what's causing this strange behavior?

I installed first on the eMachines box and suspected hardware problems, but
the segfaults were not so frequent that I could not proceed, so whenever I
encountered one, I just ran the command again until it completed
successfully and figured I could troubleshoot the hardware more later, after
the base install.

But now that I've seen the same sorts of problems on this Cyrix 6x86 CPU,
I'm less inclined to think hardware problems and more inclined to think that
there may be some problem with the software on the subject iso image.

Has anyone else encountered this?  Any ideas as to what else could be the
problem if not the memory?  As I said, the md5sum is fine on the cd image,
the cd itself, and various tar files on the cd.  Is there another hardware
component that could be causing this (aside from the memory).

TIA for any thoughts.

-Kevin




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[gentoo-user] nomachine: nxclient / nxserver-freenx

2005-01-09 Thread fire-eyes
I read the URL about using nomachine in Gentoo, thanks for the URL.

However it talks about using nxserver-{personal,business,enterprise},
and all three are masked.

So I thought i'd check out nxserver-freenx, however I am running into
multiple problems compiling x11-nx 1.4.0-r3.

Has anyone been able to get nxserver-freenx and nxclient going?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DEPEND/RDEPEND search

2005-01-09 Thread Alec
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:

 

Exist a bash way to search a value (read package) inside
DEPEND/RDEPEND variables defined in the ebuilds.
If not which is the easyer way ?
  

I'm not sure to understand what are you looking for, but maybe 
unclepine is the tool for you:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=249828
Ciao
Francesco
 

one shot one kill, it's exactly what I was searching for.
Ciao
 Francesco
spoken too fast as always, unclepine check dependancies of installed 
packages, I need a way to grep the portage tree DEPEND variables.
anyway it's an interesting tool, saved for later use ;)

I was thinking to something like:
find /usr/portage -name *.ebuild -exec grep -ls 
\sDEPEND=.*dev-db/mysql {} \;

but DEPEND variable span across multiple lines, and I don't know how 
to parse it :(


   The easiest way I can think of is using AUX_GET.py.  I can't 
remember if it came with portage, or if genone gave it to me.  Anyway, 
here it is.  Now if you want something out of ebuilds just do aux_get.py 
DEPEND PACKAGE and it will go into the Database and fetch it.
The down side is it used the portage database instead of the ebuilds 
themselves, so it's kinda slow ;)

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#!/usr/bin/python

import sys
sys.path.insert(0, /usr/lib/portage/pym)
import portage

if len(sys.argv) != 3:
	print need exactly two arguments: key and value
	sys.exit(1)

# make a few assumptions for now
db = portage.db[/][porttree].dbapi
key = sys.argv[1]
value = sys.argv[2]

for p in db.cp_all():
	for pv in db.cp_list(p):
		if value in db.aux_get(pv, [key])[0].split():
			print pv

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Re: [gentoo-user] ps ax stuck process, help :)

2005-01-09 Thread Dave S
James Hiscock wrote:
I remember someting about terminal ctrl codes freezing output in one of
my linux books but cannot find it again. I could be wrong but I suspect
I just have to ctrl - something to unlock it.
   

If you did hit CTRL+S, then hit CTRL+Q to unlock it.
 

CTRL Q works for me !
Cheers
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[gentoo-user] Resolution change

2005-01-09 Thread Bill Six
Hi,

I recently ran emerge --update world.  After doing
so, I ran etc-update to update the config files, and
used the -3 options to automerge.

After reboot, my screen resolution changed and now
everything's too big.  Any ideas how to change the
resolution back to 1024x768?

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DEPEND/RDEPEND search

2005-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 09 January 2005 04:53 am, Bastian Balthazar Bux 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Exist a bash way to search a value (read package) inside
  DEPEND/RDEPEND variables defined in the ebuilds.
  If not which is the easyer way ?

 I was thinking to something like:

 find /usr/portage -name *.ebuild -exec grep -ls
 \sDEPEND=.*dev-db/mysql {} \;

Can't you simply use qpkg -q dev-db/mysql ?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Not working tar -lcf - . | ssh system tar -xvpf -

2005-01-09 Thread Sven Köhler
portage $ tar -lcf - .  | ssh  -l root x.x.x.x  tar -xvpf - -C
/mnt/gentoo/usr/portage
you can also try netcat which should be much faster than ssh, since it's 
without encryption - but setting up netcat could be more complicated (i 
never used it yet)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Resolution change

2005-01-09 Thread Bill Six
Nevermind.  sys-apps/ddcxinfo-knoppix gave me what I
needed.


--- Bill Six [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I recently ran emerge --update world.  After doing
 so, I ran etc-update to update the config files, and
 used the -3 options to automerge.
 
 After reboot, my screen resolution changed and now
 everything's too big.  Any ideas how to change the
 resolution back to 1024x768?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
Hi all!
Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment:
http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png
I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system, and 
using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel.

It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web 
browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror).

Does anyone have some hints to help me getting font better rendered?
Thank you.
Fabrizio
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My first suggestion would be to use *real* fonts (no offence 
intended). Those serif, sans-serif and monospace you've got listed 
imo render the worst of all the possible fonts you could have installed. 
If you don't have any real fonts installed, check out the 
bitstream-vera, msfonts, and many other font packages available in 
Portage, and then set your browser to use them to render web pages.

Now, this won't help with the menus and all, because that is set by gtk, 
and your fluxbox desktop fonts are usually set by the theme, iirc. A lot 
of them (fluxbox themes) like you to have the artwiz fonts installed. 
I've never been so fond of artwiz fonts, but naturally, unless you want 
to hack the theme, it's best to have them, otherwise the theme will have 
to make something up, and that usually doesn't look so good.

For GTK apps, you can install gtk-chtheme, which will allow you to 
change the font for the menus and whatnot in GTK-based programs 
(alternatively, if you have GNOME installed, you could use GNOME itself 
to do so, and run gnome-settings-daemon when you start fluxbox, but a 
lot of people don't like this solution).

Hope this helps.
Holly
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[gentoo-user] OT: GMAIL accounts

2005-01-09 Thread Mike Noble
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[gentoo-user] Xorg locks up

2005-01-09 Thread Sarpy Sam
With the developers depriceating xfree86 I am trying to get one
computer running xorg and having difficulty.  Everyone says you can
use the exact same configuration file as xfree86 just rename it
xorg.conf.  Well I emerge xorg and renamed the file and when I start
the xserver all I get is a bunch of colored lines and no amount of
mouse movement or key punches get anything to happen.  The only way
top get out is to kill the computer and try again.  This was the
reason why I ended up installing xfree in the first place a couple of
months ago because xorg won't work on this computer.  Does any one
have any idea what i can do to fix this.

emerge --info

Portage 2.0.51-r3 (default-linux/x86/2004.3, gcc-3.3.4,
glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1, 2.6.9-gentoo-r13 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.9-gentoo-r13 i686 Celeron (Coppermine)
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.8
Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r5
Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
Binutils: sys-devel/binutils-2.15.90.0.1.1-r3
Headers:  sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21-r1
Libtools: sys-devel/libtool-1.5.2-r7
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CFLAGS=-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
COMPILER=
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config
/usr/kde/3.3/env /usr/kde/3.3/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/shutdown
/usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.osuosl.org
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo;
MAKEOPTS=-j2
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=
SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=x86 X acl apm avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups encode fam
foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gpm gtk gtk2 java jpeg kde libwww mad mbox
mikmod motif mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl pam pdflib perl png
python qt quicktime readline sdl spell ssl svga tcpd tiff truetype usb
wifi xml2 xmms xv zlib

Also I have attached the xorg.conf file.  Does anybody have an idea
how to fix this problem.

Kirby Walborn


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Re: [gentoo-user] imap client recommendations

2005-01-09 Thread Frederik 'Freso' S. Olesen
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:07:55 +0100, Jens Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
zap
At least I found one plugin for coloring different quote levels, which
thunderbird isn't (or wasn't?) able to do.

It both was and is able to do that. If you're talking about the
extension I think you're talking about, then all it does is merely
handling the configuration of some lines in one of the JavaScript
configuration files. Probably user.js. I think I did it manually back
with 0.7... like I've manually inserted the X-FOAF header into my
primary profile. ;)
Thunderbird is really more configurable than it seems right off the
bat, you just have to get more into the inner workings, as well as
knowing where to look... ;)

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[gentoo-user] Emerge groff failure.

2005-01-09 Thread Qian Qiao
Hi,

I am trying to emerge groff-1.19.1-r2 and got this error:

!!! Error: sys-apps/groff-1.19.1-r2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 86, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

And I didn't notice any error during the compilation. Is there anyone
on this list that ran into similar problems? Is the a solution to
this?

TIA

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Fabrizio Prosperi
Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then:

1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts 
under /usr/share/fonts ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls
100dpi  TTF corefonts  freefont  misc ttf-bitstream-vera
75dpi   Type1   defaultlfp-fix   ms-truetype  unifont
CID afmsencodings  lfpfonts-var  sharefonts   util
Speedo  artwiz  fonts.cache-1  local terminus

2) I'm emerging gtk-chtheme, does this work better than kcontrol - fonts 
section?

3) I like artwiz-fonts but apart from that I'm using them because they are the 
only fonts which seem good renderered to me, the point about firefox that 
seems strange to me is that even the menu' and toolbars fonts (which are not 
configurable) are bad-rendered, maybe it's really a problem of gtk 
configuration...

Thank you for your help. Fabrizio


On Sunday 09 January 2005 18:54, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
  Hi all!
 
  Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment:
 
  http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png
 
  I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system,
  and using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel.
 
  It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web
  browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror).
 
  Does anyone have some hints to help me getting font better rendered?
  Thank you.
 
  Fabrizio
 
 
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 My first suggestion would be to use *real* fonts (no offence
 intended). Those serif, sans-serif and monospace you've got listed
 imo render the worst of all the possible fonts you could have installed.
 If you don't have any real fonts installed, check out the
 bitstream-vera, msfonts, and many other font packages available in
 Portage, and then set your browser to use them to render web pages.

 Now, this won't help with the menus and all, because that is set by gtk,
 and your fluxbox desktop fonts are usually set by the theme, iirc. A lot
 of them (fluxbox themes) like you to have the artwiz fonts installed.
 I've never been so fond of artwiz fonts, but naturally, unless you want
 to hack the theme, it's best to have them, otherwise the theme will have
 to make something up, and that usually doesn't look so good.

 For GTK apps, you can install gtk-chtheme, which will allow you to
 change the font for the menus and whatnot in GTK-based programs
 (alternatively, if you have GNOME installed, you could use GNOME itself
 to do so, and run gnome-settings-daemon when you start fluxbox, but a
 lot of people don't like this solution).

 Hope this helps.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DEPEND/RDEPEND search

2005-01-09 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
snip

   The easiest way I can think of is using AUX_GET.py.  I can't 
remember if it came with portage, or if genone gave it to me.  Anyway, 
here it is.  Now if you want something out of ebuilds just do 
aux_get.py DEPEND PACKAGE and it will go into the Database and fetch it.
The down side is it used the portage database instead of the ebuilds 
themselves, so it's kinda slow ;)
thanks,
nice little piece of software !
ciao francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DEPEND/RDEPEND search

2005-01-09 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
snip
Can't you simply use qpkg -q dev-db/mysql ?
 

it query the installed packages, maybe qpkg -U ?
in the meantime aug_get.py given from Alec Warner has worked.
thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread James Hiscock
 I like artwiz-fonts but apart from that I'm using them because they are the
 only fonts which seem good renderered to me, the point about firefox that
 seems strange to me is that even the menu' and toolbars fonts (which are not
 configurable) are bad-rendered, maybe it's really a problem of gtk
 configuration...

Try running 
/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon 
from a terminal -- it'll probably solve the ugly fonts problem. If
not, change the fonts using the fonts applet in the Gnome control
center -- KDE control center's font applet is only for QT/KDE apps,
while Gnome's will work for all GTK apps, as long as
gnome-settings-daemon is running.

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[gentoo-user] Re: THE .muttrc color definition set

2005-01-09 Thread Thomas Kirchner
* On Jan  8 13:43, Grant thusly jotted:
 I just plugged in a set of color definitions for the .muttrc file from
 the web, and it sure is cool.  Can anyone point me toward their
 favorite?

See below.  Tweaked over the course of the last year or so :)
Tom


[~] cat .mutt/colors
color   header  magenta default '^(Date|Posted):'
color   header  yellow  default 
'^(From|Reply-To|Organization|User-Agent):'
color   header  cyandefault 
'^(To|Cc|Delivered-To|X-Original-To):'
color   header  green   default '^(Subject):'
color   header  green   default '^(Mailing-List|List|X-ML)'
color   header  bluedefault 
'^(Message-ID|References|In-Reply-To):'
color   header  red default 
'^(X-Bogosity|X-Spam|X-PerlMx-Spam)'
color   hdrdefault  brightblack default

color   index   brightgreen default ~N

color   treebrightyellowdefault
color   quoted  yellow  default
color   quoted1 green   default
color   quoted2 magenta default
color   quoted3 bluedefault

color   bodycyandefault ((ftp|http|https)://|news:)[^ 
)\\t]+
color   bodycyandefault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
color   normal  white   default
color   error   green   default
color   indicator   white   red
color   signature   brightblue  default
color   status  white   blue
color   tilde   bluedefault


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Fabrizio Prosperi
What do u mean, James... that as long as I don't have any gnome package 
installed I can't make my fonts better? 
And if so, is there a way to have the gnome-settings-daemon installed with the 
minimum number of gnome packages installed? 
Or better, is there some equivalent daemon for kde?

I've run the gtk-chtheme but I've found it not-helping...

Thank u anyway. I've appreciated..but still ugly fonts...



On Sunday 09 January 2005 20:19, James Hiscock wrote:
  I like artwiz-fonts but apart from that I'm using them because they are
  the only fonts which seem good renderered to me, the point about firefox
  that seems strange to me is that even the menu' and toolbars fonts (which
  are not configurable) are bad-rendered, maybe it's really a problem of
  gtk configuration...

 Try running
 /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon 
 from a terminal -- it'll probably solve the ugly fonts problem. If
 not, change the fonts using the fonts applet in the Gnome control
 center -- KDE control center's font applet is only for QT/KDE apps,
 while Gnome's will work for all GTK apps, as long as
 gnome-settings-daemon is running.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,
Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment:
http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png
I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system, and 
using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel.

It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web 
browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror).
From another of your posts, it looks like you have the ttf-bitstream-vera 
fonts installed.

Place the following file at /etc/fonts/local.conf :
www.gnome.org/fonts/local.conf
Add the following line towards the top:
dir/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/dir
Run:
fc-cache -fv
Restart X.
Hopefully you'll then have nicer looking default fonts for sans/sans-serif/etc.
Daniel
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[gentoo-user] gdm without gconf

2005-01-09 Thread Peter Karlsson
Hi!

I would like to build  use gdm as my display manager but I don't want to
install gconf (nor scrollkeeper,orbit,bonobo,portmap,gnome-vfs,fam,
anything gnome-related). Is this possible? Would emerge --nodeps gdm
work? Also, there are quite a few gnome applications that I would like to
use, i.e. I would like to have gnome-base installed without installing
above named packages (irritations :-).

Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp jpeg HELP

2005-01-09 Thread Vittorio
I made it at last! Many thanks
Vittorio

Alle 14:02, domenica 9 gennaio 2005, Heinz Sporn ha scritto:
 Well, then good luck then. ;-)

 Vittorio schrieb:
  Heinz:
 Well, I am sorry Vittorio but I am not sure if you understand the
 concept of the magic USE flag right.
 
  Apparently I didn't understand that!
 
 Let me put it this way:
 1. Look into your /etc/make.conf
 2. Check if the line starting with USE= contains the string jpeg
 
  I now have a richer USE line in
  make.conf
  USE=-java -gnome jpeg tiff gimpprint
 
 3. Remove all occurences of -jpeg in that file
 4. Run an emerge -pvV gimp
 5. Does it now come up with +jpeg or -jpeg ???
 
  With +jpeg*
 
 6. And please forget that echo $USE stuff ;-)
 
  Wrongly I had put the above USE line in a file under /etc/env.d to be
  executed as an environmental variable. My mistake! Thanks for shedding a
  light on it!!
 
  Tomorrow I'll have another compilation of the Gimp.
 
 Vittorio schrieb:
 Perhaps I'm somewhat slow or I don't understand how to use emerge
 correctly but ... as I stated my USE :
 -
  # echo $USE
 -java -gnome kde dvd cdr alsa jpeg tiff jpeg tiff gimpprint
 -
 
 *** contains *** the jpeg (and tiff and gimpprint) flag.
 
 Therefore, in a nutshell, I don't understand where I am wrong according
 to you.
 
 Ciao
 Vittorio
 
 Alle 19:52, sabato 8 gennaio 2005, Heinz Sporn ha scritto:
 Again: perform an
 emerge -pvV gimp
 
 It should come up with something like:
 
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/gimp-2.0.4  +aalib (-altivec) -debug -doc
 gimpprint* +jpeg +mmx* -mng* +png +python +sse* -svg* +tiff -wmf*
 
 
 Notice the +jpeg flag. If you have -jpeg then run
 
 USE=jpeg emerge gimp
 
 exactly as stated here.
 
 Vittorio schrieb:
 I didn't succeed!
 
 I had a go with:
 
 # echo $USE
 -java -gnome kde dvd cdr alsa jpeg tiff jpeg tiff gimpprint
 
 # emerge unmerge gimp To be on the safe side!!!
 # emerge -b gimp
 
 BUT I'm still unable to open a jpg file (of the hundreds I used to
  work with!!) under the Gimp (unknown file)!
 
 Please help
 
 Vittorio
 
 Alle 19:31, venerdì 7 gennaio 2005, Heinz Sporn ha scritto:
 Look at the output of emerge -pvV gimp. You'll notice that it uses
 the jpeg flag. So either perform
 
 USE=jpeg emerge gimp
 
 or add jpeg to your USE flags in /etc/make.conf and emerge Gimp
 again.
 
 Vittorio schrieb:
 Dear All,
 
 I compiled gimp 2.0.4 from the latest stage1 but it doesn't support
 jpeg files requiring an extra library.
 Therefore I've just compiled the media-libs/jpeg library from stage1
 but gimp is still unable to open jpeg files.
 
 What else should I compile?
 
 Thanks
 
 Vittorio
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xcdroast GDK_PIXBUF problems

2005-01-09 Thread Vittorio
The solution came out of the blue from the solution of another problem I had 
been having with kdework. 

I had to 
etc-update opengl
and then recompile everything. And now it works!

Ciao
Vittorio 
Alle 13:55, sabato 8 gennaio 2005, Vittorio ha scritto:
 I'm emerging xcdroast from the latest stage1 with the following USE

 # echo $USE
 -java -gnome kde dvd cdr alsa jpeg tiff jpeg tiff gimpprint

 the configuration of xcdroast fails because of a missing GDK_PIXBUF (see
 the extract below).
 What should I do?

 Ciao
 Vittorio
 ...
. checking for unsetenv... yes
 checking for setreuid... yes
 checking for seteuid... yes
 checking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config
 checking for GLIB - version = 1.2.3... yes
 checking for gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config
 checking for GTK - version = 1.2.3... yes
 checking for gdk-pixbuf-config... no
 checking for GDK_PIXBUF - version = 0.8.0... no
 *** The gdk-pixbuf-config script installed by GDK_PIXBUF could not be found
 *** If GDK_PIXBUF was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
 *** your path, or set the GDK_PIXBUF_CONFIG environment variable to the
 *** full path to gdk-pixbuf-config.
 configure: error: Test for gdk_pixbuf failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for
 help.

 !!! ERROR: app-cdr/xcdroast-0.98_alpha15-r3 failed.
 !!! Function econf, Line 449, Exitcode 1
 !!! econf failed

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Re: [gentoo-user] Monster emerge -- an odd thing or two

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:56:04 +0100, Heinz Sporn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you have an ATI card the downgrade to Xorg 6.7 would be clear. The
 ati-drivers package simply depends on Xorg 6.7. It is said ATI will
 deliver a set of drivers supporting Xorg 6.8 (and DRI) this month. In
 the meantime you could either go with 6.7 or re-emerge 6.8 but forget
 DRI for the moment (and yes it is working).

That's interesting, I suppose, but I have no idea how to use or not use
DRI.  I've just been using whatever is here.  Where do I get an education?

 
 291 config files: how long didn't you update your machine?


About a week.  That's all.  But it included the XFree - xorg switchover, and
a major KDE overhaul as well.  Most of the 291 were X-related.

++ kevin


 
 Kevin O'Gorman schrieb:
  Having carefully backed up my whole root partition, I just embarked on
  the huge emerge that had built up in just the few days around the
  new years.  I was worried about Xorg, of course -- it was going to be
  a major pain if that didn't work.  In the event, everything seems fine, but
  there were some oddities, in my opinion.  It also seemed to replace
  much of KDE and a bunch of other things too.  38 steps.
 
  The oddities:
 
  For one thing, emerge first emerged xorg 6.8.0-r3, then downgraded it
  to xorg 6.7.0-r3, all in the same batch.  Anyone know why it does this?
  I'm running on 6.70 right now, with no noticeable difference from the
  earlier XFree, so I'm not complaining.  It just seems weird.  Also very
  time-consuming.
 
  For another, when it was done, and quite aside from the automatic
  trivial config merges, there were 291 config file changes that etc-update
  wanted me to scrutinize.  I don't have the attention span for that, so
  I looked at the 9 that I most nearly know what they do.  The rest I just
  told it to automerge, and I'm hoping for the best.  Is it really necessary
  to have 300 config files changed in a given update?  There just seems
  to be something unfriendly about that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Monster emerge -- an odd thing or two

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:09:38 +0100, Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 09 January 2005 07:40, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  Having carefully backed up my whole root partition, I just embarked
  on the huge emerge that had built up in just the few days around the
  new years.  I was worried about Xorg, of course -- it was going to be
  a major pain if that didn't work.  In the event, everything seems
  fine, but there were some oddities, in my opinion.  It also seemed to
  replace much of KDE and a bunch of other things too.  38 steps.
 
  The oddities:
 
  For one thing, emerge first emerged xorg 6.8.0-r3, then downgraded it
  to xorg 6.7.0-r3, all in the same batch.  Anyone know why it does
  this? I'm running on 6.70 right now, with no noticeable difference
  from the earlier XFree, so I'm not complaining.  It just seems weird.
   Also very time-consuming.
 
 If you sync your system once in a quarter you can expect strange
 behavior ;-)
 Seriously: it can depend on the fact that the upgrade/update touched
 portage and/or profiles.


This is not called for.  I held off sync for about 2 weeks.  Later you talk
about planning large emerges for when you can deal with them.  Make
up your mind.


  For another, when it was done, and quite aside from the automatic
  trivial config merges, there were 291 config file changes that
  etc-update wanted me to scrutinize.  I don't have the attention span
  for that, so I looked at the 9 that I most nearly know what they do.
  The rest I just told it to automerge, and I'm hoping for the best.
  Is it really necessary to have 300 config files changed in a given
  update?  There just seems to be something unfriendly about that.
 
  ++ kevin
 
 I put a signature as comment in every /etc/ file I edit, so it is
 easier to sort out which config files deserve _more_ attention.

I've been doing this for years, long before I ever heard of Gentoo.


 IMHO, anyway you should better
 - sync your system more often
 or
 - plan big builds when you have time to look them after.
 

Again, is 2 weeks often enough for you?  If not, your second option
doesn't make much sense.

 Again IMHO ten minutes saved in a blind etc-update with a -3 or -5
 switch don't worth hours trying to solve strange issues, and
 potentially rock solid system crawling...


Tell me how you examine 300 unfamiliar diffs in ten minutes. 
Ten hours should do it, but I'd have a hard time staying focused.
No noticeable problems so far.  I think all the -5's related to
config files I have never touched, since there are precious few that
I ever do.  Printing, networking, fstab, ssh, security programs,
and X86Config;  not much else.

 Dispatch-conf may be better suited to your likings, tough...

Why?  I'm not complaining about etc-update, or at least not aware of it
if I am.

++ kevin

 Ciao
  Francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web calendar with overlay feature

2005-01-09 Thread michael
Thanks for the advice. Forgive my ignorance (I'm new to these PIM tools
like calendars - I've used scraps of paper up 'till now :-), but when
you say you use other tools (mozilla/firefox/thunderbird calendar
extension) to edit it, does that have to happen on the same machine on
which your calendar resides, or can it be done remotely?
Thanks,
Michael
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, YoYo Siska wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Along these lines, can anyone recommend a gentoo-friendly web calendar, 
which would allow a small group of people to each have their own
calendar, and to optionally overlay one or more calendar on top of
another? For instance, my wife and I would maintain separate calendars,
but if I were trying to schedule an event with her, I might overlay hers
on mine to seen when we both were free.

Thanks,
Michael

phpicalendar?
iirc it's not in portage, but it instalation involvest just extracting it 
somewhere (plus setting  .htacces maybe)

it works with ical files, either local, or on a webdav server, can display 
multiple ical files together.
But i don't know how goot is it at editing, because I use it just to display 
stuf and use mozilla/firefox/thunderbird calendar extension to edit it...

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[gentoo-user] [OT]: Looking for a CMS..

2005-01-09 Thread Daniel G. Siegel
Hi!
I'm looking for a good CMS, that i can run on my Gentoo machine and
on the FreeBSD-Server, where i don't have a root-account. It doesn't
have to exist in portage, i could write an ebuild.
The CMS should have:
A _very_ good gallery, with automatic thumbnail-creating
A small blog-system
my configuration looks like this: safe_mode=off, GD2 installed
php4.3, mysql4.0. I can't use gallery.sf.net, it doesn't work on the
server. Thanks for advices.
Greetings Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread James Hiscock
 What do u mean, James... that as long as I don't have any gnome package
 installed I can't make my fonts better?

Not quite -- it's just a whole heck of a lot easier to deal with if
you've got bits of Gnome installed so you can easily configure your
GTK apps to look prettier than they do by default.

gnome-settings-daemon is provided by the gnome-base/control-center
package. It's got a ton of dependencies, though, so it's probably not
going to solve your problem easily (I'm assuming that you're using KDE
exclusively, and not Gnome)...

 And if so, is there a way to have the gnome-settings-daemon installed with the
 minimum number of gnome packages installed?

Dunno. Best you can do is try 
emerge -av control-center
and see just how much you're going to have to install.

 Or better, is there some equivalent daemon for kde?

I've got a GTK Styles and Fonts applet in my KDE Control Center, but
I'm not sure what package I installed to get it (if any - might be
standard in the current KDE releases)... that should do what you want
it to do, I think... No need for a daemon for KDE, AFAIK.

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[gentoo-user] Xorg release oscillating between 6.7 and 6.8?

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I mentioned elsewhere that emerge -aDvu world emerged xorg 6.8 and
promptly downgraded to 6.7.  Someone opined that it was because I have
ATI Rage XL video and something about ati-drivers.

I have not done an emerge sync since then, and on a whim I just did another
emerge -aDvu world and it offered to install 6.8 again.  Am I going to go
through this sort of oscillation forever?  Is there something I can do
to stop it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Login, Schmogin

2005-01-09 Thread John Lowell
Heinz Sporn wrote:
Had the same problem yesterday. The answer was simple: the system was 
not able to resolve it's own hostname XY via DNS (understandable). 
After putting it into /etc/hosts

127.0.0.1 localname XY
everything went fine.
Heinz,
You hit it on the button, it was a /etc/hosts issue alright! Thanks!
What kept confusing me was the fact that my workstations functioned 
perfectly well while the webserver didn't.  It seems that I was mistaken 
to assume that the installation would treat workstations served by my 
router's DHCP service in this way exactly the same as one assigned a 
static ip with port forwarding. Very wrong. Hopefully this experience 
will help someone else to avoid this pitfall. We live and learn.

I would like to thank everyone here that tried to provide me with help 
for this problem. I'm grateful for your time and expertise.

Very best regards.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then:
1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts 
under /usr/share/fonts ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls
100dpi  TTF corefonts  freefont  misc ttf-bitstream-vera
75dpi   Type1   defaultlfp-fix   ms-truetype  unifont
CID afmsencodings  lfpfonts-var  sharefonts   util
Speedo  artwiz  fonts.cache-1  local terminus
Yes, but your screenshot shows your font preferences for Firefox, and 
you aren't using any of those fonts. You're using 'serif', 'sans serif' 
and 'monospace', which are corefonts, which are ugly as sin. You do know 
you can change these to things like Bitstream Vera Serif, Bitstream Vera 
Sans and Bitstream Vera Mono, in the very dialog that is displayed in 
your screenshot, right? This should improve the rendering of the 
webpages themselves, which is what this setting controls. We are talking 
about two separate issues, you know-- the font used to render the web 
page display (which is controlled by Firefox itself), and the fonts used 
to render the application window (which is controlled by the window 
manager's governing library, meaning GTK or QT). Firefox is a GTK2 
application.

2) I'm emerging gtk-chtheme, does this work better than kcontrol - fonts 
section?
Yes, because Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird are GTK apps, not KDE/QT apps-- 
so kcontrol has no control by default over what fonts they use to 
display their windows unless you get the gtk-qt engine from either 
gnome-look.org or kde-look.org, and/or check the little checkbox that 
says allow non-KDE apps to use my KDE settings in KControl (which you 
should also do). That generally works, but not for all GTK apps 
(especially GTK1 apps). gtk-chtheme allows you to set the fonts and 
theme for these apps independently, although it may mean that you might 
need to trawl around gnome-look.org to find some themes that nearly 
match your  (there are some in Portage).

Why are we even talking about KDE if you use fluxbox? KControl isn't 
available in fluxbox any more than it is in GNOME.

3) I like artwiz-fonts but apart from that I'm using them because they are the 
only fonts which seem good renderered to me, the point about firefox that 
seems strange to me is that even the menu' and toolbars fonts (which are not 
configurable) are bad-rendered, maybe it's really a problem of gtk 
configuration...
Yes, it is-- because since you do not use GNOME, you have no real GTK 
configuration, and the defaults used in the absence of active 
configuration look like junk, generally.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg release oscillating between 6.7 and 6.8?

2005-01-09 Thread Scott Taylor
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 13:34 -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 I mentioned elsewhere that emerge -aDvu world emerged xorg 6.8 and
 promptly downgraded to 6.7.  Someone opined that it was because I have
 ATI Rage XL video and something about ati-drivers.

They are correct. In the ebuild for ati-drivers-3.14.6 is this depend:
DEPEND=|| ( x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.99 =x11-base/xfree-4.3.0 )

 I have not done an emerge sync since then, and on a whim I just did another
 emerge -aDvu world and it offered to install 6.8 again.  Am I going to go
 through this sort of oscillation forever?  Is there something I can do
 to stop it?

ati-drivers will not stop xorg 6.8 from installing. It will pull it back
to 6.7 on the next pass though. Presumably, ati-drivers will offer a
version at some point that will support xorg 6.8, so it won't flip-flop
*forever*.

You have a few choices, including:

1. remove ati-drivers and stay with xorg 6.8. wait for a new ati-drivers
that works with 6.8 to reinstall it.
2. add =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8 to /etc/portage/package.mask to prevent
the 6.8 upgrade from happening, and remove it once a newer ati-drivers
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev and cdrecorder permissions

2005-01-09 Thread Makurin Roman
On Sunday 09 January 2005 19:42, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Sunday 09 January 2005 02:27, Makurin Roman wrote:
  Hi All!
  I`ve got a problem with udev and my cdrecorder permisions.
 
  Cdrecorder is /dev/hdd, in
  /etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions I found these lines:
  sr*:root:cdrom:660
  scd*:root:cdrom:660
  pcd*:root:cdrom:0660
  cdrom*:root:cdrom:0660
  dvd:root:cdrom:0660
  rdvd:root:cdrom:0660
  cdroms/*:root:cdrom:0660
 
  ls -l /dev/hdd:
  brw-rw  1 root root 22, 64 Jan  8 18:26 /dev/hdd
  ls -l /dev/cdroms/*
  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 6   8 18:26 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 -
  ../hdd
 
  Since /dev/hdd is not accessible for cdrom group ordinary users
  can`t write to it.
 
  How can I fix this problem ?

 Make a text file 10-local.permissions in /etc/udev/permissions.d
 with this line in it:

 hdd:root:cdrom:0660
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:54:21 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
  Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then:
 
  1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts
  under /usr/share/fonts ...
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls
  100dpi  TTF corefonts  freefont  misc ttf-bitstream-vera
  75dpi   Type1   defaultlfp-fix   ms-truetype  unifont
  CID afmsencodings  lfpfonts-var  sharefonts   util
  Speedo  artwiz  fonts.cache-1  local terminus
 
 Yes, but your screenshot shows your font preferences for Firefox, and
 you aren't using any of those fonts. You're using 'serif', 'sans serif'
 and 'monospace', which are corefonts, which are ugly as sin. You do know
 you can change these to things like Bitstream Vera Serif, Bitstream Vera
 Sans and Bitstream Vera Mono, in the very dialog that is displayed in
 your screenshot, right? 

Holly,
   Wrong for me. I haven't follow this thread so maybe I'm missing
something, but I've had some font problems in the last few days since
I threw Open Office on this machine. It seems to have changed the
fonts Mozilla is using.

   In my case I have some fonts on the system:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/
bitmap-fonts  bitstream-vera  default  fonts.cache-1  openoffice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera
fonts.cache-1  VeraBI.ttf  VeraMoBd.ttf  VeraMoIt.ttf  VeraSeBd.ttf  Vera.ttf
VeraBd.ttf VeraIt.ttf  VeraMoBI.ttf  VeraMono.ttf  VeraSe.ttf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$

but the only dropdown choices I have are serif and sans serif.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg release oscillating between 6.7 and 6.8?

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:57:01 -0700, Scott Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 13:34 -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  I mentioned elsewhere that emerge -aDvu world emerged xorg 6.8 and
  promptly downgraded to 6.7.  Someone opined that it was because I have
  ATI Rage XL video and something about ati-drivers.
 
 They are correct. In the ebuild for ati-drivers-3.14.6 is this depend:
 DEPEND=|| ( x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.99 =x11-base/xfree-4.3.0 )
 
  I have not done an emerge sync since then, and on a whim I just did another
  emerge -aDvu world and it offered to install 6.8 again.  Am I going to go
  through this sort of oscillation forever?  Is there something I can do
  to stop it?
 
 ati-drivers will not stop xorg 6.8 from installing. It will pull it back
 to 6.7 on the next pass though. Presumably, ati-drivers will offer a
 version at some point that will support xorg 6.8, so it won't flip-flop
 *forever*.
 
 You have a few choices, including:
 
 1. remove ati-drivers and stay with xorg 6.8. wait for a new ati-drivers
 that works with 6.8 to reinstall it.
 2. add =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8 to /etc/portage/package.mask to prevent
 the 6.8 upgrade from happening, and remove it once a newer ati-drivers
 is available.

This makes perfect sense, but it illuminates my ignorance of things video.
How do I learn enough to make an intelligent choice between the two options?
That is:
1) What do I give up by dropping ati-drivers?
2) What do I gain by going with 6.8?
The usual 5-word explanations I get on this list is not informative (for me),
because they usually assume I know a great deal more than I seem to
actually know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg locks up

2005-01-09 Thread Brent Smith
Sarpy Sam wrote:
 With the developers depriceating xfree86 I am trying to get one
 computer running xorg and having difficulty.  Everyone says you can
 use the exact same configuration file as xfree86 just rename it
 xorg.conf.  Well I emerge xorg and renamed the file and when I start
 the xserver all I get is a bunch of colored lines and no amount of
 mouse movement or key punches get anything to happen.  The only way
 top get out is to kill the computer and try again.  This was the
 reason why I ended up installing xfree in the first place a couple of
 months ago because xorg won't work on this computer.  Does any one
 have any idea what i can do to fix this.
 

A number of people have reported problems with i810 and xorg-6.8.x
IIRC, the solution was to downgrade to version 6.7.0.  I use a
computer at work that has this chipset, and while it works with
some of the time, it often crashes and hangs with xorg-6.8.x.
For me, it always crashes when DRI is enabled.

There is also a wealth of information in the forums regarding this
chipset.

Hope this helps.

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[gentoo-user] tar xzf to different folder

2005-01-09 Thread Joseph
Is there a way to untar content of a file to a different folder?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg release oscillating between 6.7 and 6.8?

2005-01-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
I mentioned elsewhere that emerge -aDvu world emerged xorg 6.8 and
promptly downgraded to 6.7.  Someone opined that it was because I have
ATI Rage XL video and something about ati-drivers.
I have not done an emerge sync since then, and on a whim I just did another
emerge -aDvu world and it offered to install 6.8 again.  Am I going to go
through this sort of oscillation forever?  Is there something I can do
to stop it?
++ kevin

Yes, to stop it, put =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0 in 
/etc/portage/package.mask until such time as the conflict between the 
ati-drivers and X.org 6.8 is resolved (supposed to be in the next 
release, expected within days).

The issue is that the ATI binary drivers do not work with X.org 6.8, so 
if you install them, X.org will downgrade to a version that does work 
with them. However, the X.org ebuild does not check as to whether you 
have ati-drivers installed, so it will upgrade on the next sync, unless 
you mask the upgrade. In other words, ati-drivers blocks X.org 6.8, but 
X.org 6.8 is not blocked by the pre-existence of ati-drivers on the 
system (though if you had to reinstall ati-drivers, xorg would downgrade 
again).

Anyway, the easiest thing to do is just mask the upper versions of X.org 
yourself if you want to keep the ati-driver package.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg release oscillating between 6.7 and 6.8?

2005-01-09 Thread afabian
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:12:26PM -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 1) What do I give up by dropping ati-drivers?
 2) What do I gain by going with 6.8?
 The usual 5-word explanations I get on this list is not informative (for me),
 because they usually assume I know a great deal more than I seem to
 actually know.

I've never used the binary ATI drivers, but I am familiar with the
binary nvidia drivers.  I know in that case, there is really not too
much difference, except that the NVIDIA binary drivers have 3D
support, and the open-source driver doesn't.  I suspect (but do not
know) that there is a similar situation with the ATI drivers.  So, if
you don't play any 3D games, there's a good chance you're better off
with the open-sounce drivers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Mark Knecht wrote:
   In my case I have some fonts on the system:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/
bitmap-fonts  bitstream-vera  default  fonts.cache-1  openoffice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera
fonts.cache-1  VeraBI.ttf  VeraMoBd.ttf  VeraMoIt.ttf  VeraSeBd.ttf  Vera.ttf
VeraBd.ttf VeraIt.ttf  VeraMoBI.ttf  VeraMono.ttf  VeraSe.ttf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$
but the only dropdown choices I have are serif and sans serif.
Then you need to add the font paths to fontconfig file and update the font 
cache. See my earlier post in this thread.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:54:21 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then:
1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts
under /usr/share/fonts ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls
100dpi  TTF corefonts  freefont  misc ttf-bitstream-vera
75dpi   Type1   defaultlfp-fix   ms-truetype  unifont
CID afmsencodings  lfpfonts-var  sharefonts   util
Speedo  artwiz  fonts.cache-1  local terminus
Yes, but your screenshot shows your font preferences for Firefox, and
you aren't using any of those fonts. You're using 'serif', 'sans serif'
and 'monospace', which are corefonts, which are ugly as sin. You do know
you can change these to things like Bitstream Vera Serif, Bitstream Vera
Sans and Bitstream Vera Mono, in the very dialog that is displayed in
your screenshot, right? 
Holly,
   Wrong for me. I haven't follow this thread so maybe I'm missing
something, but I've had some font problems in the last few days since
I threw Open Office on this machine. It seems to have changed the
fonts Mozilla is using.
   In my case I have some fonts on the system:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/
bitmap-fonts  bitstream-vera  default  fonts.cache-1  openoffice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera
fonts.cache-1  VeraBI.ttf  VeraMoBd.ttf  VeraMoIt.ttf  VeraSeBd.ttf  Vera.ttf
VeraBd.ttf VeraIt.ttf  VeraMoBI.ttf  VeraMono.ttf  VeraSe.ttf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$
but the only dropdown choices I have are serif and sans serif.
- Mark
Are you talking about OOo or Mozilla? Hopefully Mozilla, because I don't 
have OOo on my system atm.

Plus, I use Firefox, but it's not that different.
If you look at the Firefox font config screen, the first thing it asks 
you is what encoding (Western).

Then it asks you what *kind* of font you want to use as your 
Proportional font by default: serif or sans-serif. These are your 
choices in variable-width font types; fixed-width fonts are generally 
only used in mail, or called for by the webpage itself, so you don't get 
this as an option, since no one really wants to read a webpage in 
Courier 10.

Then there are three separate dropdown menus that ask you which 
*specific* font you want to use for your serif font, your sans-serif 
font, and your monospace font.

So if you say that you want webpages generally to be displayed in 
sans-serif style, and then you choose Arial to be the sans serif font, 
your web pages will display in Arial. If you have also chosen Times New 
Roman as your serif font, you still won't see any Times New Roman-- 
unless you change the style of display to Serif, in which case you won't 
see any Arial, but only Times New Roman (except in those instances where 
a webpage has embedded a particular font and uses that instead).

As far as I know, Mozilla has these settings (or very similar ones) as 
well; what OOo has to do with it, I don't know, but I'm almost certain 
that you can change the default display font there as well, if necessary.

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[gentoo-user] usb hotplug problems

2005-01-09 Thread Vittorio
I recently moved to kernel 2.6.9 compiling a new system from scratch every  in 
my all my gentoo linux  notebook.

Now I'm sure I enabled the usb stuff in the kernel and compiled and installed 
hotplug according to the instructions in the handbook.

The weird fact is that, even though the usbfs filesystem is mounted according 
to tle log file, when I insert a usb device nothing seems to happen and no 
sign of a new usb device is detected in messages.log. The 
directory /proc/bus/usb is completely empty.

Besides, while hotplug under the 2.4 kernel was quite talkative, now if I 
issue /etc/init.d/hotplug restart it stops and starts without saying 
anything but only OKs. At the same time /etc/init.d/hotplug status gives 
started.

WShat's going on and what should I do?

Vittorio

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:31:47 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:54:21 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
 Thank U Holly, I've a few questions then:
 
 1) what do u mean with *real* fonts? I've this fonts
 under /usr/share/fonts ...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/share/fonts $ ls
 100dpi  TTF corefonts  freefont  misc 
 ttf-bitstream-vera
 75dpi   Type1   defaultlfp-fix   ms-truetype  unifont
 CID afmsencodings  lfpfonts-var  sharefonts   util
 Speedo  artwiz  fonts.cache-1  local terminus
 Yes, but your screenshot shows your font preferences for Firefox, and
 you aren't using any of those fonts. You're using 'serif', 'sans serif'
 and 'monospace', which are corefonts, which are ugly as sin. You do know
 you can change these to things like Bitstream Vera Serif, Bitstream Vera
 Sans and Bitstream Vera Mono, in the very dialog that is displayed in
 your screenshot, right?
 
  Holly,
 Wrong for me. I haven't follow this thread so maybe I'm missing
  something, but I've had some font problems in the last few days since
  I threw Open Office on this machine. It seems to have changed the
  fonts Mozilla is using.
 
 In my case I have some fonts on the system:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/
  bitmap-fonts  bitstream-vera  default  fonts.cache-1  openoffice
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ls /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera
  fonts.cache-1  VeraBI.ttf  VeraMoBd.ttf  VeraMoIt.ttf  VeraSeBd.ttf  
  Vera.ttf
  VeraBd.ttf VeraIt.ttf  VeraMoBI.ttf  VeraMono.ttf  VeraSe.ttf
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$
 
  but the only dropdown choices I have are serif and sans serif.
 
  - Mark
 
 Are you talking about OOo or Mozilla? Hopefully Mozilla, because I don't
 have OOo on my system atm.
 
 Plus, I use Firefox, but it's not that different.
 
 If you look at the Firefox font config screen, the first thing it asks
 you is what encoding (Western).
 
 Then it asks you what *kind* of font you want to use as your
 Proportional font by default: serif or sans-serif. These are your
 choices in variable-width font types; fixed-width fonts are generally
 only used in mail, or called for by the webpage itself, so you don't get
 this as an option, since no one really wants to read a webpage in
 Courier 10.
 
 Then there are three separate dropdown menus that ask you which
 *specific* font you want to use for your serif font, your sans-serif
 font, and your monospace font.
 
 So if you say that you want webpages generally to be displayed in
 sans-serif style, and then you choose Arial to be the sans serif font,
 your web pages will display in Arial. If you have also chosen Times New
 Roman as your serif font, you still won't see any Times New Roman--
 unless you change the style of display to Serif, in which case you won't
 see any Arial, but only Times New Roman (except in those instances where
 a webpage has embedded a particular font and uses that instead).
 
 As far as I know, Mozilla has these settings (or very similar ones) as
 well; what OOo has to do with it, I don't know, but I'm almost certain
 that you can change the default display font there as well, if necessary.
 
 Holly

Thanks Holly. This was the first good explanation I've seen on how to
actually make this work. I appreciate it greatly. I'm now able to make
changes and they actually show up. Stupid me for not checking all the
drop down boxes. Silly mozilla.org for not making this jsut a bit
clearer. (Or stupid me again!)

Anyway, thanks.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] tar xzf to different folder

2005-01-09 Thread Peter Gordon
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Try using the '-C directory' option:
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Hope that helps!
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Re: [gentoo-user] tar xzf to different folder

2005-01-09 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Joseph wrote:
Is there a way to untar content of a file to a different folder?
 

tar -xvf yourfile.tgz -C /your/folder
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Re: [gentoo-user] usb hotplug problems

2005-01-09 Thread Christoph Eckert

 WShat's going on and what should I do?

The 2.6 series are more supportive concerning USB, but also 
more precisely. So, my hub working very well on 2.4 was 
simply trash with 2.6.

If you plug in your device to a hub, try it pluggin to the 
root hub directly instead.


 Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Holly Bostick wrote:
So if you say that you want webpages generally to be displayed in 
sans-serif style, and then you choose Arial to be the sans serif font, 
your web pages will display in Arial. If you have also chosen Times New 
Roman as your serif font, you still won't see any Times New Roman-- 
unless you change the style of display to Serif, in which case you won't 
see any Arial, but only Times New Roman (except in those instances where 
a webpage has embedded a particular font and uses that instead).
I don't think it exactly works like this.
If a web page specifically uses font family Arial then Arial will be used, 
if present, no matter what your font settings are.

(This is of course assuming that you don't have the Always use my fonts box 
ticked.)

If no font is specified by the website, it uses whatever you have chosen for 
your Proportional font (which as you point out is a pointer to one of the 
other choices).

I don't think it is used much, but I think using font family sans, 
sans-serif, etc, is encouraged on websites, and if a website was to specify 
this, then the font you have chosen in that dialog would be substituted in.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg locks up

2005-01-09 Thread Sarpy Sam
 A number of people have reported problems with i810 and xorg-6.8.x
 IIRC, the solution was to downgrade to version 6.7.0.  I use a
 computer at work that has this chipset, and while it works with
 some of the time, it often crashes and hangs with xorg-6.8.x.
 For me, it always crashes when DRI is enabled.
 
 There is also a wealth of information in the forums regarding this
 chipset.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
I will give it a try a report back when able.

Kirby Walborn

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[gentoo-user] cloning servers and preventing genetic drift

2005-01-09 Thread Dennis Allison
I have created a gentoo server (A) that I wish to clone to 
to other servers ( B and C ) with minor differences in their 
setup.  Over time I want to ensure that the three systems remain
synchronized.  Is there any easy way to do this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] tar xzf to different folder

2005-01-09 Thread Joseph
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 14:53 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
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 Joseph wrote:
 | Is there a way to untar content of a file to a different folder?
 |
 Try using the '-C directory' option:
 $ tar -xzf /path/to/archive.tar.gz -C /where/to/unpack
 
 Hope that helps!

This is like redirecting the content of the archive to specific folder.
What I wanted to do is to suppress/overwrite the extracted directory
name to my own name.

Example if I do:
$ tar -xzf archive.tar.gz -C my_folder
I get:
/my_folder/archive

What I wanted to change is the name of the original folder to different
one; example from: archive to archive-temp to the content would not
generate archive but archive-temp
archive-temp/

Though I'm not sure it this can be done.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Daniel Drake wrote:
Holly Bostick wrote:
So if you say that you want webpages generally to be displayed in 
sans-serif style, and then you choose Arial to be the sans serif font, 
your web pages will display in Arial. If you have also chosen Times 
New Roman as your serif font, you still won't see any Times New 
Roman-- unless you change the style of display to Serif, in which case 
you won't see any Arial, but only Times New Roman (except in those 
instances where a webpage has embedded a particular font and uses that 
instead).
I don't think it exactly works like this.
If a web page specifically uses font family Arial then Arial will be 
used, if present, no matter what your font settings are.

(This is of course assuming that you don't have the Always use my 
fonts box ticked.)
Well, that's kind of what I said, but I was trying to keep it relatively 
simple. If a web page specifically uses a font family, that is not 
really vastly different from embedding a specific font (since you may 
not actually have Arial, but a bunch of aliases aliasing Arial to 
Helvetica, in which case you'd see Helvetica). In any case, this is all 
pretty shoddy HTML coding in any case, and I didn't see so much need to 
discuss the intricacies of shoddy coding in a general explanation of the 
Mozilla/Firefox configuration dialog and what the various options were 
actually meant to effect.
If no font is specified by the website, it uses whatever you have chosen 
for your Proportional font (which as you point out is a pointer to one 
of the other choices).
Which is as it should be, imo. I've been to enough websites that 
actually offered a font download so you could see the page as it was 
intended (assuming I care about the artistic-ness of it all), and I 
find that kind of thing really annoying-- as I do embedded fonts in 
email. Not only does this behaviour take away my choice, and eat up my 
hard drive space, but it may even be a problem-- if I'm visually 
disabled, I may not even be able to read your cute little font (and 
sometimes even when I'm not-- what some people find readable truly 
eludes me at times). In any case, I'm interested in the information, not 
the creative vision, and the best way to be sure that the information 
is readable for me (at this very literal level, nothing said about 
general site/page design), is to let me decide what font is used to 
display the page, since I know what font and size I find most 
comfortable to read, and the  site creator does not. So why should that 
person get to decide? (They shouldn't, and they shouldn't code to force 
that decision on me.)

I don't think it is used much, but I think using font family sans, 
sans-serif, etc, is encouraged on websites, and if a website was to 
specify this, then the font you have chosen in that dialog would be 
substituted in.
Well, that's getting into CSS stylesheets, which are used quite a lot, 
and is *really* not the subject of this discussion ;-) .

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] tar xzf to different folder

2005-01-09 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Joseph wrote:
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 14:53 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
 

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Joseph wrote:
| Is there a way to untar content of a file to a different folder?
|
Try using the '-C directory' option:
$ tar -xzf /path/to/archive.tar.gz -C /where/to/unpack
Hope that helps!
   

This is like redirecting the content of the archive to specific folder.
What I wanted to do is to suppress/overwrite the extracted directory
name to my own name.
Example if I do:
$ tar -xzf archive.tar.gz -C my_folder
I get:
/my_folder/archive
What I wanted to change is the name of the original folder to different
one; example from: archive to archive-temp to the content would not
generate archive but archive-temp
archive-temp/
Though I'm not sure it this can be done.
 

I dont think it's possible unless you are in a very special case. If you 
have a number of dirs which have one and only one child.
the list of your dir should be something like:
aa
aa/bb
aa/bb/cc
aa/bb/cc/file1
aa/bb/cc/file2
aa/bb/ccc
aa/bb/ccc/file3
aa/bb/ccc/file4

mkdir aaa/bbb
tar -xvf your_arc.tar.gz --strip-components=2 -C aaa/bbb/
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[gentoo-user] off the wall question

2005-01-09 Thread Nick Smith
i was pondering some different ideas about my laptop, i really
would like to get rid of windows, or at least setup vmware with
windows if i need it, and get rid of the dual boot thing, but i
have alot of stuff i cannot loose/reinstall so my question is
this, is it possible to copy over my windows partition into a
vmware session? kinda like coping all the files of one harddrive
to another, at most you might have to do an over lay of the OS
but all the programs would still be installed etc.  anyone had
any experience in this? it was just a thought, i doubt it can be
done, but you never know for sure unless you ask.

thanks for the input

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[gentoo-user] vmware setup

2005-01-09 Thread Nick Smith
im tring to setup vmware on my gentoo installation, and its
asking me where my init files are rc0.d through rc6.d, gentoo
doesnt really have anything like that so what do you do in this
case? /etc/init.d/? any help would be appreciated.

thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware setup

2005-01-09 Thread Calvin Walton
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:23:36 -0500 (EST), Nick Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 im tring to setup vmware on my gentoo installation,

The easiest way to do this is through gentoo's package management -
simply 'emerge -a vmware-workstation'

 and its
 asking me where my init files are rc0.d through rc6.d, gentoo
 doesnt really have anything like that so what do you do in this
 case? /etc/init.d/? any help would be appreciated.

The gentoo ebuild takes care of this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware setup

2005-01-09 Thread Nick Smith
quote who=Calvin Walton
 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:23:36 -0500 (EST), Nick Smith
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 im tring to setup vmware on my gentoo installation,

 The easiest way to do this is through gentoo's package
 management -
 simply 'emerge -a vmware-workstation'

 and its
 asking me where my init files are rc0.d through rc6.d, gentoo
 doesnt really have anything like that so what do you do in
 this
 case? /etc/init.d/? any help would be appreciated.

 The gentoo ebuild takes care of this.

i didnt think vmware was free? what is the version in portage?
demoware or something?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Fabrizio Prosperi
Well, guys, thank U all for the help. I've followed all your suggestions by 
now and surely learnt something more; by now gnome-settings-daemon is 
running, gtk-chtheme has been *theming* but still my fonts look ugly...maybe 
less ugly than before...maybe my eyes haven't been upgraded yet (!) 
I should follow my wife's two hours ago advice and go to bed by now. 
I'll try again tomorrow.

Bye all!


On Sunday 09 January 2005 17:26, Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
 Hi all!

 Here is a snaphshot of my current desktop environment:

 http://tosh.dyndns.biz/~fprosper/snapshot.png

 I'm running fluxbox 0.9.10 and kde3.3 on a gentoo 2.6.8.1 kernel system,
 and using current portage xfs daemon at default runlevel.

 It seems to me that fonts aren't rendered very well, especially in web
 browsers (both Mozilla Firefoz and Konqueror).

 Does anyone have some hints to help me getting font better rendered?
 Thank you.

 Fabrizio


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Re: [gentoo-user] imap client recommendations

2005-01-09 Thread Jens Mayer
* On Sunday 09 January 2005 19:59, Frederik 'Freso' S. Olesen wrote:

 Thunderbird is really more configurable than it seems right off the
 bat, you just have to get more into the inner workings, as well as
 knowing where to look... ;)

But we are still talking about thunderbird as a MUA with a GUI? 

Although I found out how to set some things in prefs.js, I'd always prefer 
mutt if I looked for textfile configurable MUA - mutt's documentation is much 
better in this case. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox or Xorg font rendering?

2005-01-09 Thread Kathy Wills
James Hiscock wrote:
I've got a GTK Styles and Fonts applet in my KDE Control Center, but
I'm not sure what package I installed to get it (if any - might be
standard in the current KDE releases)... that should do what you want
it to do, I think... No need for a daemon for KDE, AFAIK.
 

This is because of the gtk-qt-engines package.
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Re: [gentoo-user] off the wall question

2005-01-09 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Nick Smith wrote:
i was pondering some different ideas about my laptop, i really
would like to get rid of windows, or at least setup vmware with
windows if i need it, and get rid of the dual boot thing, but i
have alot of stuff i cannot loose/reinstall so my question is
this, is it possible to copy over my windows partition into a
vmware session? kinda like coping all the files of one harddrive
to another, at most you might have to do an over lay of the OS
but all the programs would still be installed etc.  anyone had
any experience in this? it was just a thought, i doubt it can be
done, but you never know for sure unless you ask.
thanks for the input
nick
 

done, few years ago with a win98, yes it's possible, it's the same as 
choose your hd and put it on another pc (new motherboard, nic, etc...)
With windows this it's *not* an easy task.
You need to configure wmware to access directly say /dev/hdaX supposing 
that /dev/hdaX is the partition currently used by windows.
Then you can make vmware working on a snapshot, that is leave the 
original untouched, write the diffs elsewhere. safer  slower.
First time you boot unconfigure all that you can, reboot and leave 
windows reconfigure all (I'm laughing sorry).

ciao
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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware setup

2005-01-09 Thread Nick Smith
quote who=Calvin Walton
 On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:23:36 -0500 (EST), Nick Smith
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 im tring to setup vmware on my gentoo installation,

 The easiest way to do this is through gentoo's package
 management -
 simply 'emerge -a vmware-workstation'

well i used your directions, and i get an error that tells me to
reconfigure again, and when i do i get this:

Making sure services for VMware Workstation are stopped.

/etc/vmware/init.d/vmware: line 938: [: -: integer expression
expected
Stopping VMware services:
   Virtual machine monitor  
 failed
   Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0
  done
   DHCP server on /dev/vmnet1   
  done
   SMB share server on /dev/vmnet1  
  done
   SMB name server on /dev/vmnet1   
  done
   Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet1  
  done
   DHCP server on /dev/vmnet8   
  done
   NAT service on /dev/vmnet8   
  done
   Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet8  
  done
   Virtual ethernet 
 failed
Unable to stop services for VMware Workstation

Execution aborted.


and this in the syslog:

Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Internet Software Consortium
DHCP Server 2.0
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997,
1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: All rights reserved.
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd:
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Please contribute if you
find this software useful.
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: For info, please visit
http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd:
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop kernel: /dev/vmnet: open called by PID
12341 (vmnet-netifup)
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop kernel: /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8
successfully opened
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Internet Software Consortium
DHCP Server 2.0
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997,
1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: All rights reserved.
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd:
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Please contribute if you
find this software useful.
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: For info, please visit
http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd:
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Configured subnet: 172.16.147.0
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Setting vmnet-dhcp IP
address: 172.16.147.254
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop kernel: /dev/vmnet: open called by PID
12340 (vmnet-dhcpd)
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop kernel: /dev/vmnet: port on hub 1
successfully opened
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Recving on
VNet/vmnet1/172.16.147.0
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Sending on
VNet/vmnet1/172.16.147.0
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop nmbd[7907]: [2005/01/09 16:15:48, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_packets.c:process_browse_packet(1050)
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop nmbd[7907]:   process_browse_packet:
Discarding datagram from IP 172.16.147.1. Source name LAPTOP00
is one of our names !
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Configured subnet: 172.16.9.0
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Setting vmnet-dhcp IP
address: 172.16.9.254
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop kernel: /dev/vmnet: open called by PID
12352 (vmnet-dhcpd)
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop kernel: /dev/vmnet: port on hub 8
successfully opened
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Recving on
VNet/vmnet8/172.16.9.0
Jan  9 16:15:48 laptop vmnet-dhcpd: Sending on
VNet/vmnet8/172.16.9.0
Jan  9 16:15:55 laptop nmbd[7907]: [2005/01/09 16:15:55, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_packets.c:process_browse_packet(1050)
Jan  9 16:15:55 laptop nmbd[7907]:   process_browse_packet:
Discarding datagram from IP 172.16.147.1. Source name LAPTOP00
is one of our names !
Jan  9 16:15:57 laptop nmbd[7907]: [2005/01/09 16:15:57, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_packets.c:process_browse_packet(1050)
Jan  9 16:15:57 laptop nmbd[7907]:   process_browse_packet:
Discarding datagram from IP 172.16.147.1. Source name LAPTOP00
is one of our names !
Jan  9 16:15:59 laptop nmbd[7907]: [2005/01/09 16:15:59, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_packets.c:process_browse_packet(1050)
Jan  9 16:15:59 laptop nmbd[7907]:   process_browse_packet:
Discarding datagram from IP 172.16.147.1. Source name LAPTOP00
is one of our names !
Jan  9 16:16:01 laptop nmbd[7907]: [2005/01/09 16:16:01, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_packets.c:process_browse_packet(1050)
Jan  9 16:16:01 laptop nmbd[7907]:   process_browse_packet:
Discarding datagram from IP 172.16.147.1. Source name LAPTOP00
is one of our names !
Jan  9 16:16:03 laptop nmbd[7907]: [2005/01/09 16:16:03, 0]
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[gentoo-user] Tool to keep up the time?

2005-01-09 Thread myang
Hello,

Is there any package in the portage which can automatically connect to certain 
server,
get the exact time and automatically adjust the time of my machine? It
seems my machine always behind the current time. Thanks!

MF

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool to keep up the time?

2005-01-09 Thread Michael Sullivan
ntp?

On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 22:31 -0500, myang wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is there any package in the portage which can automatically connect to 
 certain server,
 get the exact time and automatically adjust the time of my machine? It
 seems my machine always behind the current time. Thanks!
 
 MF
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool to keep up the time?

2005-01-09 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
emerge ntp - the man ntp.


On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, myang wrote:

 Hello,

 Is there any package in the portage which can automatically connect to 
 certain server,
 get the exact time and automatically adjust the time of my machine? It
 seems my machine always behind the current time. Thanks!

 MF



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Re: [gentoo-user] Tool to keep up the time?

2005-01-09 Thread myang
yes. It's exactly what I am looking for. Thank you!

On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 09:50:11PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 ntp?
 
 On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 22:31 -0500, myang wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Is there any package in the portage which can automatically connect to 
  certain server,
  get the exact time and automatically adjust the time of my machine? It
  seems my machine always behind the current time. Thanks!
  
  MF
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] off the wall question

2005-01-09 Thread George Garvey
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 06:47:14PM -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
 this, is it possible to copy over my windows partition into a
 vmware session? kinda like coping all the files of one harddrive

   Two ways off the top of the head:
1. Configure VMware to use your MS hard drive's partition directly.
   That is described in the VMware docs, with several caveats if memory
   serves (mostly about continuing to dual boot).
2. Mount your MS partition in Linux. Then set up file sharing between
   VMware and Linux (which is a good idea to do anyway).

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[gentoo-user] gdm xfce4

2005-01-09 Thread Peter Karlsson
Is there someone who can tell me how to make xfce4 the default session?

Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web calendar with overlay feature

2005-01-09 Thread michael

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, YoYo Siska wrote:

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Along these lines, can anyone recommend a gentoo-friendly web calendar, 
which would allow a small group of people to each have their own
calendar, and to optionally overlay one or more calendar on top of
another? For instance, my wife and I would maintain separate calendars,
but if I were trying to schedule an event with her, I might overlay hers
on mine to seen when we both were free.

Thanks,
Michael

phpicalendar?
iirc it's not in portage, but it instalation involvest just extracting it 
somewhere (plus setting  .htacces maybe)

it works with ical files, either local, or on a webdav server, can display 
multiple ical files together.
But i don't know how goot is it at editing, because I use it just to display 
stuf and use mozilla/firefox/thunderbird calendar extension to edit it...
Hi YoYo,
Thanks for the tip. I've been researching the options you suggest and am 
learning a lot.

I guess I need to set up a webdav server, to serve my calendars to
remote clients (including myself). I gather too that Apache can 
do webdav. Can anyone point me at a howto or other tips for

gentoo + apache + webdav
Thanks,
Michael
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