Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Mark Knecht wrote:
That said I use openoffice-bin and revdep-rebuild always complains.

With the latest version of revdep-rebuild (you need to unmask the latest 
gentoolkit) you can add SEARCH_DIRS_MASK=/opt/OpenOffice.org to make.conf 
and it won't complain anymore.
 
 
 But doesn't this just mask the problem? I thought this was telling
 revdep-rebuild not to look at OO, and not that it was telling
 revdep-rebuild where to find the dependencies that are missing.
 
 Please correct me if I'm wrong but if what revdep-rebuild does is
 important then I want to kow about any program on my system that
 doesn't have all it's dependencies met, right? Seems that OO-bin has
 this problem and, unless I find out what USE flags the -bi versio was
 built with and match them in my setup then I'm going to be subject to
 a problem. (possibly...)
 

Well, the notion of what USE flags the -bin version was built with can be a 
complex one because the binary package may have been built on a non-Gentoo 
system and linked against who knows what libraries.  It's simple to ignore a 
few broken dynamic links as long as the  software remains functional.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 Normally when I want to populate a new dir structure (which is empty to
 begin with) I do
 
 instead of issuing the command 
 cp -a /some/area/mp3 /other/area/mp3-store
 
 use
   
 tar lcf - . | (cd /other/area/mp3-store; tar -xpvf - )
 tar lcf - /path/to/file | (cd /other/area/mp3-store; tar -xpvf - )
 
 tar -czf - /directory/to/copy | ssh systemB tar -xzvf - -C /tmp
 

Thanks, that clarifies it for me.  I wasn't aware that cp and rsync were 
inferior to tar in this respect but I suppose a simple benchmark would prove it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing output of cron jobs

2005-06-16 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:

 But your mention of bway.net reminds me of something I wanted to ask
 you-- are you in NYC?

Yes I am - Im assuming you no longer are - where are you now ?

 I was a bway.net customer before I left New York,
 so it made me wonder. I found them a great little ISP, and if you are in
 the city, find a reason to drop by their office downtown-- they have
 (Nerf) toys (or at least they did when I was there)!

Thats pretty funny... I see their office everyday because I work there ;-)

(We'll be moving soon... two blocks north... our building is going condo
so we're being forced to move).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome-config question

2005-06-16 Thread Zarick Lau
Hi,

On 14/Jun/05, Tres Melton wrote:
   I'm trying to port plextor-tools.ebuild from ~x86 to ~amd64 and have
 encountered a problem.  The Makefile sets
 
 CFLAGS=`gnome-config --cflags applets` $(SCFLAGS)
 
 but gnome-config --cflags applets returns Unknown library `applets'
 even though I have gnome-base/gnome-applets installed.
 
 *  gnome-base/gnome-applets
   Latest version available: 2.10.0
   Latest version installed: 2.10.0
   Size of downloaded files: 5,529 kB
   Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/
   Description: Applets for the Gnome2 Desktop and Panel
   License: GPL-2 FDL-1.1

Al gnome2 based libs will use pkg-config, if you see gnome-config in
Makefile, most likely, it is referring to gnome1 stuffs.
So obviously, you need to the gnome applet library of gnome1.4 (not
gnome2)

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing output of cron jobs

2005-06-16 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:

 Thanks to your help, and a slightly revised version of Neil's script
 (thanks, Neil!), it seems to be working. I would also like to thank the
 author (scottro?) or authors of the Quick-N-Dirty guides found at
 http://www.qnd-guides.net/ , whose Q-n-D SSMTP guide really helped get
 this set up quite quickly.

Though the guide doesn't say anything about the revaliases file...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Glsa-check and binutils-- how to stop the madness?

2005-06-16 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:

 I've been running a little scriptlet to test whether I could get mail
 sent to my ISP inbox. The full script runs esync and glsa-check, but
 naturally I didn't want to sync 700 times, so I just ran the glsa-check
 section.

Is this script glcu ? ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Mark Knecht wrote:
My one wish, for the number of times I've done this, is that by
definition the LiveCD kernel is good enough to boot the machine so I
wish that kernel was installed and the Live CD was gone before I
started worrying about choosing kernel options and booting the machine
from my ow kernel. That way I'd always have one known-good kernel on
the machine. The current install process forces me to fall back to the
LiveCD if I mess up the initial kernel build. Anyway, that's a small
complaint.


You're not really forced to build your own kernel.  I've always used the 
LiveCD kernel during initial install.  Just copy the kernel and the modules 
and you are ready to go.

cp /mnt/livecd/boot/gentoo /mnt/gentoo/boot/kernel-livecd
rsync -a /lib/modules/* /mnt/gentoo/lib/modules
 
 
 Cool. Thanks Zac! I think that should be added to the install docs.
 
 

Not a bad idea, especially in the GRP install part of the handbook.

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[gentoo-user] Can not login via GDM

2005-06-16 Thread Nadav Horesh
I have several desktops installed -Gnome, KDE and
xfce. Whaen I try to logon via GDM as a normal user,
the Xsession script always gets the token
visible-stats as a parameter instead of the
requested session name.

Configuration:
1. Dual P4 + 512M
2. Xorg 6.8.2
3. kernel: 2.6.11-gentoo-r11
4. GDM version: 2.6.0.9

 Any idea how to trace the origin of the
visible-stats parameter? (It is not even define in
/etc/inputrc).

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[gentoo-user] ndiswrapper problems

2005-06-16 Thread Colin
Finally.  I'm sending this email from a working Gentoo system.

My wireless card (D-Link DWL-120+, ACX100 chipset) had trouble with
acx100, so I unmerged that and gave ndiswrapper a shot.  As you can see,
it works, despite not being listed on ndiswrapper's compatibility page. 
(I should probably add it.)

Anyway, the problem here is that when you reboot the system, the
wireless card doesn't find my access point (D-Link DI-614+), not even
with iwlist wlan0 scan.  It's only after bringing down wlan0, bringing
up wlan0, and issuing iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid my network
ESSID channel my channel key open s:my key nick computer's
nickname commit that it might come online.  And then I need to run
dhcpcd and then re-add the gateway (it's a different computer, not the
AP).  If it still doesn't work, I just mess around until I can ping an
outside host.

Is there an easier way to make this cheap card work without manual
configuration all the time?  net.wlan0 isn't in my /etc/init.d
directory, but I did add wlan0 is in the autoloaded modules list. 
Kernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r11.  Using the tiacxusb.sys and tiacxusb.inf
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Re: [gentoo-user] ooffice 2.0 and kde

2005-06-16 Thread Massimiliano Bellomo




Richard Fish wrote:

  Massimiliano Bellomo wrote:

  
  
Hi all,
do you know if it's possible to have KDE integration with
OpenOffice 2.0 beta ?

  
  

Depends on what you mean by integration.  If you mean the 'quickstart'
applet that sits in the system tray for OOo1.1.x, then no, that doesn't
exist yet.

But file associations and K menu entries should be created
out-of-the-box by the ebuild.

-Richard


I mean the rendering of the KDE native widget, icons, file dialog
(open, save as, ...); in 2 words the use of the kde "look  feel".
I've red somewhere that OO 2.0 will have this feature, but my beta
release looks always like a java application.
Maybe there is some option that i've switched off or some packages i'm
missing.
I know that maybe this is not the right place for this question, but,
well, i feel good with gentoo people !
Anyway i'll try also in OO or kde mailing list.
Bye,
 Max.




Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:58:04 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 The first step would be to mount /usr/portage on a separate machine
 using NFS. Setup an NFS server on that remote box, export the
 directory as rw, and then mount it as rw on your machine in fstab. At
 this point all the code that's downloaded by your box is actually
 placed on another machine where you have space. Keep i mind that this
 is 2-3 times the network traffic when you are building code -
 Internet-small machine-NFS drive for storage- small machine to be
 built. None the less it works.
 
 More practical is to just do things normall and watch after the
 /usr/portage/distfiles.

A better approach may be to point DISTDIR to an  NFS or Samba drive.
That way you get the speed of a local portage tree with the distfiles
held elsewhere. This cuts down on the network traffic as only the
unpacking is done over the network.
 

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[gentoo-user] SB Audigy Platinum (emu10k1) mixers

2005-06-16 Thread Colin
There are so many of them, and the names don't correspond with what they
do in Windows.  I can figure out what most of them mean, but there are a
few mixers that I just can't figure out.  Maybe someone can help me
complete this list?

Master - Master Volume
Tone - ?
Bass
Treble
PCM - ?
PCM Center - ?
PCM Front - ?
PCM LFE - ?
PCM Surround - ?
Front - Front speaker volume
Surround - Rear speaker volume?
Center - Center channel volume
LFE - Subwoofer volume
Music - MIDI synthesizer volume?
Line - The analog line input on the back of the card
Line2 - The microphone jack on the LiveDrive
CD - Is this the analog (4-pin cable) or digital (2-pin) connector?
Mic - Microphone jack on the card
Mic Boost - 20 dB microphone boost
Phone - TAD port on the card.
IEC958 Optical  - ?  (It's either SPDIF in, SPDIF out, optical in or
optical out.)
IEC958 Optical Raw - ?
PC Speaker - ?
Aux - Auxiliary MPC-2 4-pin input on the card.
Aux2 - The RCA jacks on the LiveDrive
Analog Mix - CD, Line In, Line In 2, Aux, Aux 2, Mic, Phone (if I
remember correctly)
Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack - As far as I can tell, this switches
between analog output and digital output
Audigy CD - Maybe the digital CD (2-pin) input?
External Amplifier - Does this toggle SPDIF AC-3 decoding?  That's my
best guess.

System information:  Using ALSA 1.0.8, emu10k1 support is compiled into
my kernel, 2.6.11-gentoo-r11.  Sound works perfectly.  I have the
LiveDrive! attachment for the card... I love that thing.  As reported by
AlsaMixer:  Card=Sound Blaster Audigy.  Chip=TriTech TR28602.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Please correct me if I'm wrong but if what revdep-rebuild does is
 important then I want to kow about any program on my system that
 doesn't have all it's dependencies met, right? Seems that OO-bin has
 this problem and, unless I find out what USE flags the -bi versio was
 built with and match them in my setup then I'm going to be subject to
 a problem. (possibly...)

revdep-rebuild is irrelevant to ooo-bin, and others, because you cannot
rebuild a binary package. All it does is reinstall the same binary, not
build a new one.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:52:49 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote:

 A problem with the above is that its hard to remove all the fluff on
 built system, so the best effect is on a new install.  Believe it or
 not, it is possible to put a fully usable desktop with office apps on a
 bootable 256M USB key with room to spare!  Very tricky methods used, but
 thats the fun of it.

Are you referring to Flash Linux? That's a really neat system, but it is
not a full Gentoo system in that you cannot maintain it. Not only is it
missing Portage, it doesn't even have Python AFAIR.

Having said that, it is really handy and a good way to impress people :)


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[gentoo-user] Can't mount vfat partition

2005-06-16 Thread Colin
I just can't mount this FAT32 partition:
/dev/hde5   /home/colin/Documents   vfat   
uid=colin,umask=122   0 0

When I try to mount it, I get this error:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hde5,
   or too many mounted file systems

I've tried every mount command I could think of.  It mounted under the
LiveCD.  Yes, I've compiled in msdos, VFAT and NTFS support, but it just
refuses to mount.
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[gentoo-user] Re: email sending problem

2005-06-16 Thread askar ...
Thank you for advice!

askar

On 6/16/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, askar ... wrote:
 
  --- Session Transcript ---
  Parsing Message C:\MDAEMON\REMOTEQ\pd5072158.msg
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: sdfadfad
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MX-record resolution of [eu-bomca.org http://eu-bomca.org] in progress
  (DNS Server: 85.115.195.3 http://85.115.195.3)...
  The name server reports that it is having technical problems.
  Attempting SMTP connection to [eu-bomca.org http://eu-bomca.org : 25]
  A-record resolution of [eu-bomca.org http://eu-bomca.org] in progress
 (DNS
  Server: 85.115.195.3 http://85.115.195.3)...
  D=eu-bomca.org http://eu-bomca.org TTL=(1440)
  A=[193.220.173.5http://193.220.173.5
  ]
  Attempting SMTP connection to [193.220.173.5 http://193.220.173.5 : 25]
  Waiting for socket connection...
  Socket connection established (85.115.195.2 http://85.115.195.2 : 1366
 -
  193.220.173.5 http://193.220.173.5 : 25)
  Waiting for protocol initiation...
  -- 220 **0***
  -- EHLO mail.intranet.kg http://mail.intranet.kg
  -- 502 unimplemented (#5.5.1)
  -- HELO mail.intranet.kg http://mail.intranet.kg
  -- 250 mx01.undp.kg http://mx01.undp.kg
  -- MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -- 250 ok
  -- RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -- 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)
  --- End Transcript ---
  : Message contains [1] file attachments
  ---
 
 I think you need to read up about DNS and MX records. When a mail server
 attempts to send email to a domain, it will query for the MX records for
 the domain. So:
 
 # host -t mx eu-bomca.org
 eu-bomca.org mail is handled by 40 undp-link.elcat.kg.
 eu-bomca.org mail is handled by 5 212-42-113-235.elcat.kg.
 eu-bomca.org mail is handled by 10 mail.taide.net.
 
 This says that 212-42-113-235.elcat.kg is the primary MX.
 
 I thought I would try connecting to it manually to test it:
 
 # telnet 212-42-113-235.elcat.kg 25
 Trying 212.42.113.235...
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:07:35 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 
 
The dd program knows nothing about partions but it will work with the
associated device file.  I would use fdisk, mke2fs, and rsync.
 
 
 I'd go with rsync too. It may well be slower than tar, but it can be
 interrupted and resumed.
 
 You can use dd for this, I have done so. As long as the new partitions
 are larger than the old ones, you'll end up with a small filesystem on a
 large partition, which you can then resize with the appropriate tool for
 the filesystem. I wouldn't chance dd'ing a whole drive unless they are
 identical, you could cause problems with the partition table.
 
 You should also note that dd is by far the slowest way of doing this,
 partimage is a much better tool for cloning partitions.
 
 

Yeah, partimage is nice the way that it skips empty blocks.  Can it clone 
directly from one partition to another or is an intermediate file required?

I've found that squashfs is an iteresting option for doing backups/cloning 
because the compressed filesystem can also be reused to make a livecd or 
livedvd.  For normal cloning, I mount the squashfs and use rsync to copy the 
files into a fresh ext3 partition.

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[gentoo-user] Scroll wheel doesn't scroll

2005-06-16 Thread Colin
Sorry for all the messages all at once.  I've noticed recently that my
mouse's scroll wheel isn't working.  How do I turn on the wheel in X
(since I'm guessing it's off)?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't mount vfat partition

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Colin wrote:
 I just can't mount this FAT32 partition:
 /dev/hde5   /home/colin/Documents   vfat   
 uid=colin,umask=122   0 0
 
 When I try to mount it, I get this error:
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hde5,
or too many mounted file systems
 
 I've tried every mount command I could think of.  It mounted under the
 LiveCD.  Yes, I've compiled in msdos, VFAT and NTFS support, but it just
 refuses to mount.
 --
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After you try to mount does the output of dmesg|tail have anything 
interesting?  What's the output of fdisk -l /dev/hde?  Have you been able to 
mount other vfat filesystems with this kernel, perhaps a floppy or usb flash 
drive?

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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng

 I've found that squashfs is an iteresting option for doing backups/cloning 
 because the compressed filesystem can also be reused to make a livecd or 
 livedvd.  For normal cloning, I mount the squashfs and use rsync to copy the 
 files into a fresh ext3 partition.

This is interesting.. How is it done? Can you elaborate more??


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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 08:46 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:07:35 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 
  The dd program knows nothing about partions but it will work with the
  associated device file.  I would use fdisk, mke2fs, and rsync.
 
 I'd go with rsync too. It may well be slower than tar, but it can be
 interrupted and resumed.


As mentioned, go with tar if the destination tree is empty. If you have
to abort midway, there's still an option to run rsync on it. So you
still do save some time. But note that rsync _may_ take up more CPU
resource than tar.

 You should also note that dd is by far the slowest way of doing this,
 partimage is a much better tool for cloning partitions.


But one thing about partimage, I tried it once and going from a 10GB
partition in partimage to 20GB partition in the new drive, the new drive
only still saw itself as 10GB. I had to use partimage to resize and
extend it to make it recognise itself as 20GB again.

I don't know what happened and it was a long time ago.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scroll wheel doesn't scroll

2005-06-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 04:17 -0400, Colin wrote:
 Sorry for all the messages all at once.  I've noticed recently that my
 mouse's scroll wheel isn't working.  How do I turn on the wheel in X
 (since I'm guessing it's off)?

grep -i 4 5 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5


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Re: [gentoo-user] Scroll wheel doesn't scroll

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Colin wrote:
 Sorry for all the messages all at once.  I've noticed recently that my
 mouse's scroll wheel isn't working.  How do I turn on the wheel in X
 (since I'm guessing it's off)?
 --
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It's the ZAxisMapping option.

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol IMPS/2
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is the Gaim window dockable?

2005-06-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 03:38 -0400, Colin wrote:
 There was an option to make the window dockable in the Windows port.  I
 really miss that feature, since windows would (or they were supposed to,
 most did) maximize around the window, so that the Buddy List was
 effectively a panel docked on the side of the screen.
 
 Can the Buddy List be docked under GNOME?  I'm using Gaim 1.3.0.

yep.. 

-pref-plugins-sys tray icon

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[gentoo-user] Samba Machine based log problem

2005-06-16 Thread Chris Ong

Hi all,
My samba server just doesn't create machine based log files. This 
is the details


/var/log/samba/log.smbd
[2005/06/16 16:28:56, 0] lib/debug.c:reopen_logs(589)
  Unable to open new log file /var/log/samba3/log.tasmanian: No such 
file or directory

[2005/06/16 16:29:42, 0] lib/debug.c:reopen_logs(589)
  Unable to open new log file /var/log/samba3/log.tasmanian: No such 
file or directory

[2005/06/16 16:31:04, 0] lib/debug.c:reopen_logs(589)
  Unable to open new log file /var/log/samba3/log.tasmanian: No such 
file or directory


/etc/samba/smb.conf
# 3. Logging Options:
# this tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine
# that connects
   log file = /var/log/samba3/log.%m

# Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb).
   max log size = 50

# Set the log (verbosity) level (0 = log level = 10)
; log level = 3

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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
I've found that squashfs is an iteresting option for doing backups/cloning 
because the compressed filesystem can also be reused to make a livecd or 
livedvd.  For normal cloning, I mount the squashfs and use rsync to copy the 
files into a fresh ext3 partition.
 
 
 This is interesting.. How is it done? Can you elaborate more??
 
 

Install squashfs-tools and use mksquashfs to make compressed filesystems 
(similar to tar archives but mountable).  The standard gentoo-sources are 
already patched with squashfs so you only have to enable it in the kernel 
config.

To do online backups of my desktop system I have a script that backs up my 
whole root filesystem with the exception of some files (especially some 
sensitive ones in /etc).  I do separate backups of /etc.  Occasionally I use my 
squashfs backups to create livedvds.  I use a genkernel initrd that is patched 
to use unionfs for copy on write functionality.

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[gentoo-user] games, evolution and games unwanted.

2005-06-16 Thread Chris Ong

Hi all,

I have added in /etc/portage/package.keywords to tell portage not 
to install evolution, epiphany and gnome-games. But by doing this cause 
dependency fail when emerge gnome. Anyway to get rid of those packages 
but portage will still install gnome for me ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scroll wheel doesn't scroll

2005-06-16 Thread Chris Ong

Zac Medico wrote:

Colin wrote:


Sorry for all the messages all at once.  I've noticed recently that my
mouse's scroll wheel isn't working.  How do I turn on the wheel in X
(since I'm guessing it's off)?
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It's the ZAxisMapping option.

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol IMPS/2
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
  Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
  Option  Emulate3Buttons no
EndSection

Zac

Did you miss out
Option  Buttons x

x = no. of button in your mouse.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't mount vfat partition

2005-06-16 Thread Christoph Gysin
Colin wrote:
 I just can't mount this FAT32 partition:
 /dev/hde5   /home/colin/Documents   vfat   
 uid=colin,umask=122   0 0
 
 When I try to mount it, I get this error:
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hde5,
or too many mounted file systems
 
 I've tried every mount command I could think of.  It mounted under the
 LiveCD.  Yes, I've compiled in msdos, VFAT and NTFS support, but it just
 refuses to mount.

FAT32 needs the correct codepage selected to mount the FS. You have to
compile them in your kernel and select the correct one as default, or
specify it on the commandline:

for example:
$ mount -o codepage=cp850 /dev/hde5 /mnt/point

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't mount vfat partition

2005-06-16 Thread Colin
Zac Medico wrote:

Colin wrote:
  

I just can't mount this FAT32 partition:
/dev/hde5   /home/colin/Documents   vfat   
uid=colin,umask=122   0 0

When I try to mount it, I get this error:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hde5,
   or too many mounted file systems

I've tried every mount command I could think of.  It mounted under the
LiveCD.  Yes, I've compiled in msdos, VFAT and NTFS support, but it just
refuses to mount.
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After you try to mount does the output of dmesg|tail have anything 
interesting?  What's the output of fdisk -l /dev/hde?  Have you been able to 
mount other vfat filesystems with this kernel, perhaps a floppy or usb flash 
drive?
  

Found it!  It was complaining about the iocharset iso-8859-1 not
existing.  I must have mistyped that when I was building the kernel.  I
just stuck iocharset=iso8859-1 into my fstab and now it mounted just
fine.  Thanks for the tip, didn't expect to find that in dmesg--I
thought that was just for boot-up messages.
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Re: [gentoo-user] games, evolution and games unwanted.

2005-06-16 Thread Chris Ong

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in worse case you can emerge gnome, then --unmerge unwanted packages

I did this all the time.
But when  emerge -aDvut --newuse world or emerge --aDvut world
to do overall package upgrade will re-install this 3.. making me sick..
Just wanted a permanent way to get rid of this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is the Gaim window dockable?

2005-06-16 Thread Colin
Ow Mun Heng wrote:

On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 03:38 -0400, Colin wrote:
  

There was an option to make the window dockable in the Windows port.  I
really miss that feature, since windows would (or they were supposed to,
most did) maximize around the window, so that the Buddy List was
effectively a panel docked on the side of the screen.

Can the Buddy List be docked under GNOME?  I'm using Gaim 1.3.0.



yep.. 

-pref-plugins-sys tray icon
  

All I see is the option Hide new messages until tray icon is clicked. 
I just upgraded to Gaim 1.3.1;  maybe your version is older.
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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:29:10 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

  You should also note that dd is by far the slowest way of doing this,
  partimage is a much better tool for cloning partitions.
 
 But one thing about partimage, I tried it once and going from a 10GB
 partition in partimage to 20GB partition in the new drive, the new drive
 only still saw itself as 10GB. I had to use partimage to resize and
 extend it to make it recognise itself as 20GB again.

partimage actually copies the filesystem. Put a 10GB filesystem on a 20GB
partition and it will still be a 10GB filesystem. you just need to resize
it.


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[gentoo-user] ...and now, blocked packages

2005-06-16 Thread Colin
I went to do an emerge -Duvn world (I changed my USE flags), and
apparently, I've somehow installed conflicting packages... don't ask me how.

[blocks B ] app-admin/gnome-system-tools-1.1.91 (is blocking
app-admin/system-tools-backends-1.2.0)
[blocks B ] =x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.2 (is blocking
x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.6.3)

I'm running GNOME on top of X.  I'm guessing I should keep the GNOME
stuff and eschew the others.  Does anyone else think otherwise?
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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:12:30 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:

 Yeah, partimage is nice the way that it skips empty blocks.  Can it
 clone directly from one partition to another or is an intermediate file
 required?

It appears to want a file, but I imagine you could use /dev/stdin and /
dev/stdout as the files and pie one invocation into the other. Something
like

partimage -z0 -o -b -d -V0 save /dev/hda1 /dev/stdout | \
partimage -b restore /dev/hdc1 /dev/stdin

As the target drive is empty, there's nothing to lose by trying.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Samba Machine based log problem

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Chris Ong wrote:
 Hi all,
 My samba server just doesn't create machine based log files. This is
 the details
 
 /var/log/samba/log.smbd
 [2005/06/16 16:28:56, 0] lib/debug.c:reopen_logs(589)
   Unable to open new log file /var/log/samba3/log.tasmanian: No such
 file or directory

Does the directory /var/log/samba3 exist?

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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:44:56 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:

 To do online backups of my desktop system I have a script that backs up
 my whole root filesystem with the exception of some files (especially
 some sensitive ones in /etc).  I do separate backups of /etc.
 Occasionally I use my squashfs backups to create livedvds. 

I do something similar. I use rdiff-backup to create hourly or daily
backups of various directories. Then a weekly cron job creates squashfs
files of these backups, which I write to a home made live DVD that
contains everything I need (I hope) to restore a system.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA Drivers on A7V8X-X Motherboard

2005-06-16 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
James wrote:
 
Probably not the case, since lspci detects the 8237 chip, but did you
enable the audio chipset in the mobo BIOS?
 
 Un, no, how do you do that? Since windoz was never installed, I 
 doubt this has been done...  

It is motherboard-specific, I can only tell you how I do it on my Asus
K8V: at power-up hit the DEL key to enter the BIOS setup, then go to the
Onboard devices Configuration and set AC97 audio to enabled.

Anyway, here's my relevant configuration:

# relevant dmesg
Jun 12 20:53:36 kernel: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version
1.0.8 (Thu Jan 13 09:39:32 2005
UTC).
Jun 12 20:53:36 kernel: ALSA device list:
Jun 12 20:53:36 kernel:   #0: VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0xcc00, irq 22

# lspci

:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)

# relevant /usr/src/linx/.config

CONFIG_SND=y
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=y
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=y
# CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS is not set
CONFIG_SND_BIT32_EMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER=y
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=y
CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX=y
# CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX_MODEM is not set


# cat make.conf | grep ALSA
# (not sure what this is needed for, since I use the kernel's ALSA)
ALSA_CARDS=via82xx

# grub.conf
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 devfs=mount snd-via82xx.dxs_support=2

The dxs_support kernel boot option is required only if you want to get
5.1 sound out of the 8237. There are some resources on the web that
explain why it is so, I should be able to dig them out if you need. For
now I think you have higher priorities (i.e. make the sound work :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Samba Machine based log problem

2005-06-16 Thread Chris Ong

Zac Medico wrote:

Does the directory /var/log/samba3 exist?


Argh... reado (typo perhaps) error. Thanks Zac.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA Drivers on A7V8X-X Motherboard

2005-06-16 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Holly Bostick wrote:
 James schreef:
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
 
 All these entries are commented out, and not replicated later in the file.
 This can't be right.

But he compiled the VIA driver in-kernel (note the * in the .config),
not as a module, so /etc/modules.d/alsa is basically ignored.

 In my experience, the alsasound script vastly prefers that
 all possible components (excepting snd and alsa itself) be loaded as
 modules either just prior to, or during the loading of the script.

Not in mine :-). I don't have modules support enabled in my both my
kernels (x86 and amd64) and ALSA works fine. I guess YMMV.

 Anyway, the reason you don't have any sound cards is likely both because
 you don't have the modules loaded, and because you haven't told alsa
 that you have a card that needs modules loaded for it (alias
 snd-card-0). Fix that up, and it should work OK.

Again, I am not sure that is true, since he compiled the VIA in-kernel,
not as module.

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Re: [gentoo-user] games, evolution and games unwanted.

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:01:32 +0800, Chris Ong wrote:

 But when  emerge -aDvut --newuse world or emerge --aDvut world
 to do overall package upgrade will re-install this 3.. making me sick..

gnome is a meta-package, containing a full GNOME environment. If you don't
want this you shouldn't be merging gnome, gnome-light would be more
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-16 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
   Browsing through /usr/portage/app-emulation, I see dosemu and wine and
 a whole bunch of others.  Are dosemu and wine the ones to use, or are
 some of the others (which I have no clue about) preferred?

I made good experience using dosbox to run old dos games. I don't know,
if Win 3.11 will run in dosbox, but why not, it is a dos game. ;)

Wine can only emulate win programs (correct me if I'm wrong), so try
this, if you have a win 3.11 game.

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[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA Drivers on A7V8X-X Motherboard

2005-06-16 Thread James
Raffaele BELARDI raffaele.belardi at st.com writes:


 It is motherboard-specific, I can only tell you how I do it on my Asus
 K8V: at power-up hit the DEL key to enter the BIOS setup, then go to the
 Onboard devices Configuration and set AC97 audio to enabled.
 
OK, I check and both are selected for 'AUTO'.


 Anyway, here's my relevant configuration:
 
 # relevant dmesg
 Jun 12 20:53:36 kernel: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version
 1.0.8 (Thu Jan 13 09:39:32 2005
 UTC).
 Jun 12 20:53:36 kernel: ALSA device list:
 Jun 12 20:53:36 kernel:   #0: VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0xcc00, irq 22
 

Well, I went and build a new 2.6.11-gentoo-r11 kernel, selecting
everything for sound as a module:

device drivers--sound
M Sound card support
-- ALSA
M Advanced Linux Sound Architecture  
   M Sequencer support  
 
   Sequencer dummy client   
 
   M OSS Mixer API  
 
   M OSS PCM (digital audio) API
--PCI devices
M VIA 82C686A/B, 8233/8235 AC97 Controller  
M VIA 82C686A/B, 8233 based Modems  


 # lspci
 
 :00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
 VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
 

likewise:
:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)

 # relevant /usr/src/linx/.config
 
 CONFIG_SND=y
 CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
 CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
 CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=y
 CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=y
 # CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER is not set
 # CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS is not set
 # CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS is not set
 CONFIG_SND_BIT32_EMUL=y
 CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER=y
 # CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
 # CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set
 
 CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=y
 CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX=y
 # CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX_MODEM is not set
 


mine looks like this:

CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
# CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
# CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set

 # cat make.conf | grep ALSA
 # (not sure what this is needed for, since I use the kernel's ALSA)
 ALSA_CARDS=via82xx
 
 # grub.conf
 kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 devfs=mount snd-via82xx.dxs_support=2
 
 The dxs_support kernel boot option is required only if you want to get
 5.1 sound out of the 8237. There are some resources on the web that
 explain why it is so, I should be able to dig them out if you need. For
 now I think you have higher priorities (i.e. make the sound work 

For now I'd just like to get the basic sound working. (I.E. ignore
5.1 audio for now.) I have 2 identical systems. I'm trying to get
ALSA working on the one without the LML framegrabber board now.

What puzzles me now is when I try to run (from the web page
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml#alsa-utilities)
'emerge alsa-driver' I get this error message:
snip
* Determining the location of the kernel source code
 * Found kernel source directory:
 * /usr/src/linux
 * Found sources for kernel version:
 * 2.6.11-gentoo-r11
 * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options
 *   ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.
 * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly.
 * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging
 * this package again.

!!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 failed.
!!! Function check_extra_config, Line 430, Exitcode 0
!!! Incorrect kernel configuration options
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Now remember form above, everything under sound is a m module.


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[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA Drivers on A7V8X-X Motherboard

2005-06-16 Thread James
Holly Bostick motub at planet.nl writes:

 
 James schreef:
 
  ## IMPORTANT:
  ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
  ## and then run `update-modules' command.
  ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
  ##
  ##  ALSA portion
  ## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
  ## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
  ##  OSS/Free portion
  ## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
  ## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
  ##
 
 All these entries are commented out, and not replicated later in the file.
 
 This can't be right.
 
 Basically, you need

OK, I built a new 2.6.11-gentoo-r11 kernel with everything under sound
as a module:
device drivers--sound
M Sound card support
-- ALSA
M Advanced Linux Sound Architecture  
   M Sequencer support  
 
   Sequencer dummy client   
 
   M OSS Mixer API  
 
   M OSS PCM (digital audio) API
--PCI devices
M VIA 82C686A/B, 8233/8235 AC97 Controller  
M VIA 82C686A/B, 8233 based Modems  


 
 alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx
 alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx
 

OK I addes these lines to a pristine /etc/modules.d/alsa file.

 to be listed, uncommented, in this file. (These settings are copied from
 an old backup-- my motherboard has VIA 8233 onboard sound as well, but I
 replaced it with a dedicated C-Media card and turned off the onboard sound).
 
 You also need to make sure that the snd-via82xx modules are loaded,
 preferably in modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, rather than compiled into
 the kernel. In my experience, the alsasound script vastly prefers that
 all possible components (excepting snd and alsa itself) be loaded as
 modules either just prior to, or during the loading of the script.
 Alsasound also seems to prefer being loaded in the default runlevel,
 rather than the boot runlevel.
 
 So how I had it set up was the following modules were loaded from
 modules.autoload.d:
 
 snd_via82xx
 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_seq_oss
 snd-seq-midi-emul

OK, I added these to '/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6'
and rebooted. I did not have anything 'oss' selected;


 gameport
 ns558
 joydev
 sidewinder
 
 The last four are only relevant if you have the gameport enabled, want
 to use it, and have a Sidewinder connected to it (which I also don't,
 anymore). Other modules are loaded automatically by some of these
 modules-- snd-seq-oss loads some other sequencer module that I don't
 remember without looking in the kernel config, but I do remember that
 you don't have to load it explicitly for that reason.

Wells something's not right. Maybe I need to select some of the OSS
options? 'emerge -s alsa-driver' fails:


 * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options OK
These are red -- failed
 *   ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.
 * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly.
 * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging
 * this package again.

 Anyway, the reason you don't have any sound cards is likely both because
 you don't have the modules loaded, and because you haven't told alsa
 that you have a card that needs modules loaded for it (alias
 snd-card-0). Fix that up, and it should work OK.

I'm not sure what's screwed up. 'rc-update show' reveals:
 alsa |
alsasound | boot

???
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Re: [gentoo-user] What's wrong with my locales?

2005-06-16 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Maybe you're missing /etc/env.d/02locale, where you must set your LANG,
LANGUAGE and LC_ALL.

Bye.

El mi, 15-06-2005 a las 16:21 +0200, Holly Bostick escribi:
 I've been trying to get my locales straightened out. I want to use
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ISO8859-15) as my default encoding. I originally followed
 the Gentoo Localization Guide and defined the following locales in
 /etc/locales/build:
 
 en_us/ISO-8859-1
 en_US.ISO-8859-15/ISO-8859-15
 en_US.UTF-8/UTF-8
 nl_NL/ISO-8859-1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ISO-8859-15
 nl_NL.UTF-8/UTF-8
 
 rebuilt glibc (again) and everything was kinda OK, except that
 
 1) GDM was displaying in English, so clearly some global setting prior
 to loading the user desktop was set to English;
 
 2) random programs, usually when run from a su - terminal, reported
 that the locale was not recognized, and were defaulting to C. This
 continued to occur even after I put
 
 export LANG=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 in root's .bashrc (it had originally been set to en_US something, as an
 additional check against remembering that any given program was being
 run as root and to be careful).
 
 Then I found a how-to on the Wiki:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_an_UTF-8_enabled_system .
 
 Of course, I didn't so much want UTF8 as I did ISO8859-15 (I've not
 found UTF, which I used previously, all it's cracked up to be, frankly,
 as the relative lack of applications that support it as opposed to the
 ISO8859 encodings seemed to cause the stated benefits to evaporate).
 
 But what I did find in the wiki article was this new (to me) information:
 
 Now you should create /etc/env.d/02locale file, specifying the locales
 to use. You can add one or two different values usually, but for
 european countries with euro currency you need to add a third.
 
  LANG=it_IT.UTF-8
  LC_ALL=it_IT.UTF-8
 
 I didn't have an /etc/env.d/02locale file, so I created one:
 
 LANG=nl_NL.ISO-8859-15
 LC_ALL=nl_NL.ISO-8859-15
 
 So now, GDM says Welkom bij (hostname) instead of Welcome to
 $(hostname), and the buttons on the side say things like Taal instead
 of Language. So I've done something right. But I've also done
 something wrong:
 
 emerge -av splashutils splash-themes-livecd splash-themes-gentoo
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = (unset),
   LC_ALL = nl_NL.ISO-8859-15,
   LANG = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).
 
 
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = (unset),
   LC_ALL = nl_NL.ISO-8859-15,
   LANG = nl_NL.ISO-8859-15
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).
 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = (unset),
   LC_ALL = nl_NL.ISO-8859-15,
   LANG = nl_NL.ISO-8859-15
 are supported and installed on your system.
 perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).
 
 $LANGUAGE ? Where am I supposed to set that? And what's the syntax? Perl
 seems to be the only one upset by this; why? And where do I set the
 actual locale, since none of all of these settings seem to be what the
 system (or Perl) is looking for?
 
 It's not a crisis (everything seems to be working nonetheless), but I
 would like to straighten this out (even if it means going to UTF8).
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 Holly

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Re: [gentoo-user] ...and now, blocked packages

2005-06-16 Thread Martins

been there too when gnome update 2.8 -- 2.10
I did
--unmerge gnome-themes-2.8.2 gnome-system-tools-1.1.91
emerge gtk-engines-2.6.3 system-tools-backends-1.2.0 gnome-themes-2.10

martins


On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:03:56 +0300, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I went to do an emerge -Duvn world (I changed my USE flags), and
apparently, I've somehow installed conflicting packages... don't ask me  
how.


[blocks B ] app-admin/gnome-system-tools-1.1.91 (is blocking
app-admin/system-tools-backends-1.2.0)
[blocks B ] =x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.2 (is blocking
x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.6.3)

I'm running GNOME on top of X.  I'm guessing I should keep the GNOME
stuff and eschew the others.  Does anyone else think otherwise?
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Re: [gentoo-user] updating sysvinit coreutils and baselayout broke some locales/letters

2005-06-16 Thread sIbOk
downgrading to bash-2.05d-r11 solved the problem, but now supr
doesn't work, so bash sucks. i hope i can have a stable version
soon...
anyway i'm happy now i can type anything except supr :P

2005/6/14, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 sIbOk wrote:
  splashutils didn't solved the problem and come with a few bugs
 
  2005/6/13, sIbOk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 before posting i reemerged kbd and didn't help. I don't use the
 console on these Pc cause it's my daughter's Pc so i don't have
 consolefont in any runlevel, but that's not the problem. When i have
 to do anything i start it manually, it's not very often. By now
 someone tells that the problem i get is due tu a strange behavour of
 splahsutils and it's solved in a new version, so gonna try to solve it
 this way. If i can solve it i will post here so if someone has a
 similar problem could know the solution. Thanks to all you :)
 
 
 Are you certain that /etc/init.d/keymaps is executed at boot with no errors?  
 Are all the package versions the same as one of your working gentoo systems?  
 Instead of iso8559-15 you may want to try the utf-8 charset since it is 
 probably more common.
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java (Blackdown) and Konqueror

2005-06-16 Thread Martins

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 01:54:32 +0300, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Martins wrote:

i did emerge kdebase, and i belive i put java flag. how to check was it
aplied to konqueror part? I dont want to go back to kde-meta 'cause
kdebase is very fast and stable


In /var/db/pkg the USE files contain the use flags that each package was  
compiled with.




all kde pakages was built with java USE flag

ang good news are konqueror now loads aplets except Java ControlPanel.  
Only change between trys was halt - sleep - boot  ;)


thanx for help

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[gentoo-user] emerge build error with app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14

2005-06-16 Thread Anthony Philipp
Hello all,

Hopefully someone can help me with this issue. I assume this is the
correct place to ask questions. I was emerging
app-text/docbook-sgml-utils from version 0.6.12 to version 0.6.14. I
was doing this during an emerge -uDav world. Here is the build error
I got.



SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \
jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \
-V '%use-id-as-filename%'
../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml
jade: error while loading shared libraries:
libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [api.html] Error 127
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
jade: error while loading shared libraries:
libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file:
No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [backend-spec.html] Error 127
make[2]: Leaving directory

`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory

`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR:
app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode
2
!!! emake failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost
build error, NOT this status message.

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I hope someone knows a workaround to fix this for me. Otherwise I
will wait until the next version update. 

Thanks a lot!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE 3.4.1

2005-06-16 Thread Fernando Meira
Will this way prevent an emerge -uD world to downgrade the KDE version?

Thanks,
FernandoOn 6/15/05, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First unmask the top level package, example:echo kde-base/kdebase-meta ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywordsThen just run this script, example:unmask.pl kdebase-metaYou might want to save a copy of 
package.keywords then compare thetwo for sanity before emerging.Have fun,RoyJanne Vnttinen wrote: Is there any easier way to make Portage to install KDE 3.4.1 to a stable system than to add every single installed package to
 /etc/portage/package.keywords? I wouldn't mind to have the entire kde-base -category use test packages but I would like to keep the rest of the system on stable ground. So PACKAGE_KEYWORDS is not a good
 solution. I tried to define packages with wildcards (like kde-base/* ~x86), with no luck. Is this possible? Thanks beforehand,


Re: [gentoo-user] ndiswrapper problems

2005-06-16 Thread Craig Duncan
Colin wrote:

Finally.  I'm sending this email from a working Gentoo system.

My wireless card (D-Link DWL-120+, ACX100 chipset) had trouble with
acx100, so I unmerged that and gave ndiswrapper a shot.  As you can see,
it works, despite not being listed on ndiswrapper's compatibility page. 
(I should probably add it.)

Anyway, the problem here is that when you reboot the system, the
wireless card doesn't find my access point (D-Link DI-614+), not even
with iwlist wlan0 scan.  It's only after bringing down wlan0, bringing
up wlan0, and issuing iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid my network
ESSID channel my channel key open s:my key nick computer's
nickname commit that it might come online.  And then I need to run
dhcpcd and then re-add the gateway (it's a different computer, not the
AP).  If it still doesn't work, I just mess around until I can ping an
outside host.

Is there an easier way to make this cheap card work without manual
configuration all the time?  net.wlan0 isn't in my /etc/init.d
directory, but I did add wlan0 is in the autoloaded modules list. 
Kernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r11.  Using the tiacxusb.sys and tiacxusb.inf
Windows drivers.
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First make a link in /etc/init.d for your wireless device (wlan0), here
is what I have ...

rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 24246 Apr 14 18:24 net.lo
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 6 Apr 14 18:24 net.eth0 - net.lo
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 8 Oct 26  2004 net.wlan0 - net.eth0

Next add this to the default runlevel
rc-update add net.wlan0 default

Finally, edit /etc/conf.d/wireless and put your settings in there (read
the wireless.example first).

Test: /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 restart

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?

2005-06-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:58:04 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  The first step would be to mount /usr/portage on a separate machine
  using NFS. Setup an NFS server on that remote box, export the
  directory as rw, and then mount it as rw on your machine in fstab. At
  this point all the code that's downloaded by your box is actually
  placed on another machine where you have space. Keep i mind that this
  is 2-3 times the network traffic when you are building code -
  Internet-small machine-NFS drive for storage- small machine to be
  built. None the less it works.
 
  More practical is to just do things normall and watch after the
  /usr/portage/distfiles.
 
 A better approach may be to point DISTDIR to an  NFS or Samba drive.
 That way you get the speed of a local portage tree with the distfiles
 held elsewhere. This cuts down on the network traffic as only the
 unpacking is done over the network.
 

This depends on having a fairly normal Gentoo box on the network that
does the emerge sync, right? What I want to set up here, now that I've
got 5 Gentoo boxes in the house, is just one machine that does all the
downloads and holds the portage tree and all the other machines just
reading it but never writing it. Any problems?

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot emerge docbook-sgml-utils

2005-06-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
I'm sorry.  Thank you for your advice...

On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 16:55 +0100, Tim Igoe wrote:
 
 
 Michael Sullivan wrote:
  While doing last night's daily upgrade docbook-sgml-utils failed.  The
  error was this:
  
  jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
  
  
  I checked and indeed libosp.so.3 does not exist.  Where can I get this
  library?
  
 
 This has come up twice so far in the past week on this list.
 
 emerge openjade
 
 then continue with the
 
 emerge -uD world
 

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[gentoo-user] Re: ALSA Drivers on A7V8X-X Motherboard

2005-06-16 Thread James
Matthew Cline matthew.cline at gmail.com writes:

 If you want to use the drivers provided by the alsa-driver ebuild, you
 need to disable alsa support in the kernel:

 If you have compiled your kernel and want to use alsa-driver, please
 ensure the following before proceeding, else alsa-driver is likely to
 fail. The next code listing gives you one way of performing the
 checks.

1. CONFIG_SOUND is set. (Basic Sound support enabled)
2. CONFIG_SOUND_PRIME is not set. (In-built OSS support disabled)
3. CONFIG_SND is not set. (In-built ALSA support disabled)
4. /usr/src/linux points to the kernel you want ALSA working on.
 
 If you use the kernel ALSA support, even in module form, you cannot
 use the alsa-driver ebuild.

Got it.

I think for now I going to stick with using the kernel's loadable 
modules for audio. 

Thanks for clearing that point up.

James

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT-OO2.0 dbase problems

2005-06-16 Thread Antoine
Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 Any users of oo2.0 and the dbase app of theirs?  My problem is everytime I 
 try 
 to use the wizard to build a query or report when I am all finished it gives 
 me an error 
 
 SQL Status: 01000
 Error code: 1000
 
 The column does not support the property 'Name'.
 
 I have to cancel the report/query?
 
 Anyone seen this, solution??
 
 Mike

The database app is still buggy as hell. I have been trying to use it as
an option to access at work since about week70, and it is still woefully
lacking. They were supposed to have 2.0 out by now but quite frankly it
is still quite a way off RC if you ask me (which nobody did!).
Cheers
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[gentoo-user] Upgrade/Downgrade cycles

2005-06-16 Thread Graham Murray
Sometimes a package will upgrade/downgrade alternately when running
'emerge -uD world'. One such that is happening to me right now is
libtheora. media-lib/xine-lib has a 'straight' (no version) dependency
on libtheora, which causes emerge to update to the latest
version. media-plugins/gst-plugins-theora has a dependency on a
specific version of libtheora, which causes the next emerge to
downgrade libtheora to that version. And so the cycle continues.

Should portage not recognise the specific version requirement and
not perform an upgrade to a later version? 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade/Downgrade cycles

2005-06-16 Thread David Morgan
On 18:36 Thu 16 Jun , Graham Murray wrote:
 Sometimes a package will upgrade/downgrade alternately when running
 'emerge -uD world'. One such that is happening to me right now is
 libtheora. media-lib/xine-lib has a 'straight' (no version) dependency
 on libtheora, which causes emerge to update to the latest
 version. media-plugins/gst-plugins-theora has a dependency on a
 specific version of libtheora, which causes the next emerge to
 downgrade libtheora to that version. And so the cycle continues.
 
 Should portage not recognise the specific version requirement and
 not perform an upgrade to a later version? 

Are you sure you don't have libtheora in your world file? I've only ever
seen this happen when people have the package in question in their world
file. Not sure whether or not it can happen if you don't (but I guess
I'll find out if it's not in your world file)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Walter Dnes schreef:
   Going through some old backup CDs, I found a few obscure DOS games and
 Chessmaster 3000 (I still have the original install floppies!).  I don't
 want to have to dual-boot or dedicate a machine to them.  What are the
 recommended emulators to use under Gentoo?  The DOS games probably bang
 away directly at IO ports, and Chessmaster 3000 could run under either
 Win3.1 or Win95.
 
   Browsing through /usr/portage/app-emulation, I see dosemu and wine and
 a whole bunch of others.  Are dosemu and wine the ones to use, or are
 some of the others (which I have no clue about) preferred?
 

DosBox is working well for me (although I have not used it for much as yet).

As far as I can tell, you might well be able to run some Win 3.1 and Win
95 games under it (since there aren't any Win 3.1 games, they were DOS
games, and half of the Win95 games were just DOS games with a GUI
installer/loader stuck on ($DEITY, those were hell to get running).

So I would suggest that you first go by the DOSBox homepage at
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net and look at their database (it's very very
long), to see if your game is listed, and its run status, by version.

Hope this helps.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade/Downgrade cycles

2005-06-16 Thread Richard Fish
Graham Murray wrote:

Sometimes a package will upgrade/downgrade alternately when running
'emerge -uD world'. One such that is happening to me right now is
libtheora. media-lib/xine-lib has a 'straight' (no version) dependency
on libtheora, which causes emerge to update to the latest
version. media-plugins/gst-plugins-theora has a dependency on a
specific version of libtheora, which causes the next emerge to
downgrade libtheora to that version. And so the cycle continues.

Should portage not recognise the specific version requirement and
not perform an upgrade to a later version? 
  


It is a long-standing bug in portage, and apparently not easy to fix.

You can workaround the problem by adding an appropriate entry to
/etc/portage/package.mask.  For example, I have:

# 1.02 or lower required by piave
media-libs/libdv-0.102
# 28_pre6 or lower required by kwifimanager
net-wireless/wireless-tools-28_pre6

So, just mask out the versions media-libs/theora greater than whatever
gst-plugins-theora wants.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] ooffice 2.0 and kde

2005-06-16 Thread Richard Fish
Massimiliano Bellomo wrote:

 I mean the rendering of the KDE native widget, icons, file dialog
 (open, save as, ...); in 2 words the use of the kde look  feel.


Ah.  Well, the colors are pretty easy...just turn on Apply colors to
non-KDE applications.  But as far as using (or emulating) the KDE
widgets, well, I haven't seen anything in the betas that does that. 
Maybe when the release comes out and we can actually build it from source...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:10:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

  A better approach may be to point DISTDIR to an  NFS or Samba drive.
  That way you get the speed of a local portage tree with the distfiles
  held elsewhere. This cuts down on the network traffic as only the
  unpacking is done over the network.
 
 This depends on having a fairly normal Gentoo box on the network that
 does the emerge sync, right?

No, because it is just a network mounted directory. It can be on a
Windows box if that's what you have available. Unlike the whole portage
tree, this is just a collection of source code tarballs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade/Downgrade cycles

2005-06-16 Thread Graham Murray
David Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Are you sure you don't have libtheora in your world file? I've only ever
 seen this happen when people have the package in question in their world
 file. Not sure whether or not it can happen if you don't (but I guess
 I'll find out if it's not in your world file)

Yes, I am sure that it is not in my world file. Both the packages for
which it is a dependency are in the world file.
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revdep-rebuild and -bin packages (was Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?)

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 6/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:


Please correct me if I'm wrong but if what revdep-rebuild does is
important then I want to kow about any program on my system that
doesn't have all it's dependencies met, right? Seems that OO-bin has
this problem and, unless I find out what USE flags the -bi versio was
built with and match them in my setup then I'm going to be subject to
a problem. (possibly...)

revdep-rebuild is irrelevant to ooo-bin, and others, because you cannot
rebuild a binary package. All it does is reinstall the same binary, not
build a new one.

 
 Right, but.the errors within revdep-rebuild are not irrelivant to
 a user who's just run revdep-rebuild and has to sort through a number
 of errors to decide what to do. My point was that I'd like to know how
 my copy of oo-bin was built/linked so that I could (possibly) set my
 systems up so that everything is 100% cool.
 
  It's only slightly frustrating to deal with that. Not a big deal. And
 since oo-bin hasn't crashed on me in quite awhile it would seem that
 whatever the dependency issues are they aren't serious.
 
 thanks,
 Mark
 

At least on my system, the problem with openoffice-bin-1.9.104 isn't actually 
broken dynamic links.  It's just that ldd complains ldd: warning: you do not 
have execution permission for `something.so' for these files:

/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_tkinter.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/bz2.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/dbm.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/gdbm.so

If I chmod +x those files then it stops complaining.

Zac
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Re: revdep-rebuild and -bin packages (was Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?)

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Zac Medico wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
On 6/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:



Please correct me if I'm wrong but if what revdep-rebuild does is
important then I want to kow about any program on my system that
doesn't have all it's dependencies met, right? Seems that OO-bin has
this problem and, unless I find out what USE flags the -bi versio was
built with and match them in my setup then I'm going to be subject to
a problem. (possibly...)

revdep-rebuild is irrelevant to ooo-bin, and others, because you cannot
rebuild a binary package. All it does is reinstall the same binary, not
build a new one.


Right, but.the errors within revdep-rebuild are not irrelivant to
a user who's just run revdep-rebuild and has to sort through a number
of errors to decide what to do. My point was that I'd like to know how
my copy of oo-bin was built/linked so that I could (possibly) set my
systems up so that everything is 100% cool.

 It's only slightly frustrating to deal with that. Not a big deal. And
since oo-bin hasn't crashed on me in quite awhile it would seem that
whatever the dependency issues are they aren't serious.

thanks,
Mark

 
 
 At least on my system, the problem with openoffice-bin-1.9.104 isn't actually 
 broken dynamic links.  It's just that ldd complains ldd: warning: you do not 
 have execution permission for `something.so' for these files:
 
 /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so
 /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_tkinter.so
 /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/bz2.so
 /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/dbm.so
 /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/gdbm.so
 /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/readline.so
 
 If I chmod +x those files then it stops complaining.
 

I lied, there really are broken dynamic links :-).

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Re: revdep-rebuild and -bin packages (was Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?)

2005-06-16 Thread Wade Brown
Liar!  Well, we forgive you, I think =).

Actually the better (Gentoo suggested) way to squelch these packages
is to exclude /opt from the search path in the revdep-rebuild script. 
Just do EDITOR `which revdep-rebuild` and take /opt out of the
SEARCH_DIRS, most anything that goes in there should be a binary
release, but sadly not every binary package ends up in there
(azureus-bin comes to mind).

On 6/16/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Zac Medico wrote:
  Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 On 6/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 
 
 Please correct me if I'm wrong but if what revdep-rebuild does is
 important then I want to kow about any program on my system that
 doesn't have all it's dependencies met, right? Seems that OO-bin has
 this problem and, unless I find out what USE flags the -bi versio was
 built with and match them in my setup then I'm going to be subject to
 a problem. (possibly...)
 
 revdep-rebuild is irrelevant to ooo-bin, and others, because you cannot
 rebuild a binary package. All it does is reinstall the same binary, not
 build a new one.
 
 
 Right, but.the errors within revdep-rebuild are not irrelivant to
 a user who's just run revdep-rebuild and has to sort through a number
 of errors to decide what to do. My point was that I'd like to know how
 my copy of oo-bin was built/linked so that I could (possibly) set my
 systems up so that everything is 100% cool.
 
  It's only slightly frustrating to deal with that. Not a big deal. And
 since oo-bin hasn't crashed on me in quite awhile it would seem that
 whatever the dependency issues are they aren't serious.
 
 thanks,
 Mark
 
 
 
  At least on my system, the problem with openoffice-bin-1.9.104 isn't 
  actually broken dynamic links.  It's just that ldd complains ldd: warning: 
  you do not have execution permission for `something.so' for these files:
 
  /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so
  /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_tkinter.so
  /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/bz2.so
  /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/dbm.so
  /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/gdbm.so
  /opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/readline.so
 
  If I chmod +x those files then it stops complaining.
 
 
 I lied, there really are broken dynamic links :-).
 
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Re: revdep-rebuild and -bin packages (was Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?)

2005-06-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
Maybe a better way is to emerge hard-masked gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre3
(cause it's only tested on x86).
In it there is a new version on 'revdep-rebuild' which allows you to
mask certain dirs, by using (mine):
...
SEARCH_DIRS_MASK=/home /mnt /opt/sun-jdk /opt/vmware/lib /opt/OpenOffice
...
For more info search for 'revdep-rebuild' on Bugzilla. There one with a
new version (attached)
Think it is the same? version of revdep-rebuild as in the hard-masked
gentoolkit.
HTH. Rumen
Wade Brown wrote:

Liar!  Well, we forgive you, I think =).

Actually the better (Gentoo suggested) way to squelch these packages
is to exclude /opt from the search path in the revdep-rebuild script. 
Just do EDITOR `which revdep-rebuild` and take /opt out of the
SEARCH_DIRS, most anything that goes in there should be a binary
release, but sadly not every binary package ends up in there
(azureus-bin comes to mind).

On 6/16/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Zac Medico wrote:


Mark Knecht wrote:

  

On 6/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:34:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:



  

Please correct me if I'm wrong but if what revdep-rebuild does is
important then I want to kow about any program on my system that
doesn't have all it's dependencies met, right? Seems that OO-bin has
this problem and, unless I find out what USE flags the -bi versio was
built with and match them in my setup then I'm going to be subject to
a problem. (possibly...)


revdep-rebuild is irrelevant to ooo-bin, and others, because you cannot
rebuild a binary package. All it does is reinstall the same binary, not
build a new one.

  

Right, but.the errors within revdep-rebuild are not irrelivant to
a user who's just run revdep-rebuild and has to sort through a number
of errors to decide what to do. My point was that I'd like to know how
my copy of oo-bin was built/linked so that I could (possibly) set my
systems up so that everything is 100% cool.

It's only slightly frustrating to deal with that. Not a big deal. And
since oo-bin hasn't crashed on me in quite awhile it would seem that
whatever the dependency issues are they aren't serious.

thanks,
Mark



At least on my system, the problem with openoffice-bin-1.9.104 isn't 
actually broken dynamic links.  It's just that ldd complains ldd: warning: 
you do not have execution permission for `something.so' for these files:

/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/_tkinter.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/bz2.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/dbm.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/gdbm.so
/opt/OpenOffice.org/program/python-core-2.3.4/lib/lib-dynload/readline.so

If I chmod +x those files then it stops complaining.

  

I lied, there really are broken dynamic links :-).

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI radeon drivers/config

2005-06-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Martins schreef:
 hi,
 
 did a lot of googling, read a lot of howtos, but still strugling to get 
 ATI work perfect. could someone send me working conf files for xorg and 
 kernel and  /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 to row by row check
 
 thanx in advance
 
 Martins
 
 my pci:
 # lspci
 :00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge 
 [K8T800/K8T890 South]
 :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP 
 [Radeon 9600]
 :01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 
 9600] (Secondary)
 
 # glxinfo | grep -i direct rendering
 direct rendering: No
 
 # fglrxinfo
 display: :0.0  screen: 0
 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
 OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
 

I have the ATI drivers working on my AIW 9800SE and Direct Rendering
works too:

 glxinfo | grep -i direct rendering
direct rendering: Yes

So here's the settings you need to get it working for you as well:

The most important setting is in the kernel:

**You must have DRM OFF in the kernel**

You may also need to have agpgart for your motherboard ON.

OK, the actual settings:

CONFIG_AGP=m
# CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set
# CONFIG_AGP_ATI is not set
# CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set
# CONFIG_AGP_AMD64 is not set
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=m
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL_MCH=m
# CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA is not set
# CONFIG_AGP_SIS is not set
# CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set
CONFIG_AGP_VIA=m
# CONFIG_AGP_EFFICEON is not set
# CONFIG_DRM is not set
# CONFIG_MWAVE is not set
# CONFIG_RAW_DRIVER is not set
CONFIG_HPET=y
# CONFIG_HPET_RTC_IRQ is not set
CONFIG_HPET_MMAP=y
CONFIG_HANGCHECK_TIMER=y

Because I need kernel support for my motherboard's AGP bus, I cannot use
the driver's internal agpgart.

So here's the relevant settings of my xorg.conf (I don't use composite,
I didn't even install it, as the fglrx drivers don't work with it, even
if it worked, which as I understand it, it doesn't, very well):

# **
# DRI Section
# **
Section dri
# Access to OpenGL ICD is allowed for all users:
Mode 0666
# Access t#
**
# DRI Section
# **
Section dri
# Access to OpenGL ICD is allowed for all users:
Mode 0666
# Access to OpenGL ICD is restricted to a specific user group:
#Group 100# users
#Mode 0660
EndSection

# === ATI device section ===

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Graphics Adapter
Driver  fglrx
# ### generic DRI settings ###
# === disable PnP Monitor  ===
#Option  NoDDC
# === disable/enable XAA/DRI ===
Option no_accel   no
Option no_dri no
# === misc DRI settings ===
Option mtrr   off # disable DRI mtrr mapper,
driver has its own code for mtrr
# ### FireGL DDX driver module specific settings ###
# === Screen Management ===
Option DesktopSetup   0x
Option MonitorLayout  AUTO, AUTO
Option IgnoreEDID off
Option HSync2 unspecified
Option VRefresh2  unspecified
Option ScreenOverlap  0
# === TV-out Management ===
Option NoTV   yes
Option TVStandard NTSC-M
Option TVHSizeAdj 0
Option TVVSizeAdj 0
Option TVHPosAdj  0
Option TVVPosAdj  0
Option TVHStartAdj0
Option TVColorAdj 0
Option GammaCorrectionI   0x06419064
Option GammaCorrectionII  0x
# === OpenGL specific profiles/settings ===
Option Capabilities   0x8000
# === Video Overlay for the Xv extension ===
Option VideoOverlay   on
# === OpenGL Overlay ===
# Note: When OpenGL Overlay is enabled, Video Overlay
#   will be disabled automatically
Option OpenGLOverlay  on
# === Center Mode (Laptops only) ===
Option CenterMode off
# === Pseudo Color Visuals (8-bit visuals) ===
Option PseudoColorVisuals on
# === QBS Management ===
Option Stereo off
Option StereoSyncEnable   1
# === FSAA Management ===
Option FSAAEnable yes
Option FSAAScale  1
Option FSAADisableGamma   no
Option FSAACustomizeMSPos no
Option FSAAMSPosX00.00
Option FSAAMSPosY00.00
Option FSAAMSPosX10.00
Option FSAAMSPosY10.00
Option FSAAMSPosX20.00
Option FSAAMSPosY20.00
Option 

[gentoo-user] python-ldap on amd64

2005-06-16 Thread Meinholz, Lloyd
Title: python-ldap on amd64





The python-ldap ebuild doesn't seem to have amd64 as an option. Is there
a reason for this? Thanks,


Lloyd





[gentoo-user] 802.1x Wireless Configuration

2005-06-16 Thread Sean Crandall
Hi All,

I'm having a devil of a time getting my laptop on the school's wireless
network.  Here's what I've managed so far:

I've got a Dell Inspiron 5160.  I know the wireless card works with the
network because it works in WinXP without a problem.  I also know that
the linux driver is working because I have been able to connect to an
unsecured network, and I can successfully scan this network with iwlist.
The only problem appears to be authentication.

I've emerged wireless-tools and wpa-supplicant, and I know I have to use
them in some combination, but I can't for the life of me figure out what
goes where.

The network protocol is 802.1x and I've got an alphabet soup of Open
WEP, PEAP and EAP-MSCHAPv2 that I don't totally understand.  I know the
ESSID and I have a valid login.  The problem I have is that I have no
idea how to use wpa-supplicant and/or iwconfig to get the thing running.
I've read the help files and man pages, but I'm still confused.  Do I
use both in a certain order, or just one?  It seems like the WEP needs
an encryption key, but I think I use my password for the MSCHAP
authentication.  So where do I get the encryption key from?  Is that my
password too?  

 Any help anybody could offer would be great.

Thanks much!

Sean Crandall

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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?

2005-06-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:10:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
   A better approach may be to point DISTDIR to an  NFS or Samba drive.
   That way you get the speed of a local portage tree with the distfiles
   held elsewhere. This cuts down on the network traffic as only the
   unpacking is done over the network.
 
  This depends on having a fairly normal Gentoo box on the network that
  does the emerge sync, right?
 
 No, because it is just a network mounted directory. It can be on a
 Windows box if that's what you have available. Unlike the whole portage
 tree, this is just a collection of source code tarballs.

Ah, OK - good point, although that wasn't the portion of network
traffic I was speaking about. I was thinking of the source code
arriving at the house, going from the router to the local box, off to
the share and then back to the local machine again to get unpacked.

Anyway, thanks.

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT-OO2.0 dbase problems

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Antoine wrote:
 Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 
Any users of oo2.0 and the dbase app of theirs?  My problem is everytime I 
try 
to use the wizard to build a query or report when I am all finished it gives 
me an error 

SQL Status: 01000
Error code: 1000

The column does not support the property 'Name'.

I have to cancel the report/query?

Anyone seen this, solution??

Mike
 
 
 The database app is still buggy as hell. I have been trying to use it as
 an option to access at work since about week70, and it is still woefully
 lacking. They were supposed to have 2.0 out by now but quite frankly it
 is still quite a way off RC if you ask me (which nobody did!).
 Cheers
 Antoine

I had problems with it too.  The last time I tried it was version 1.9.95 and I 
had better luck with the mysql driver than the built in hsql backend.

Zac
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[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Alienware laptop

2005-06-16 Thread Michael Madden
Has anyone gotten Gentoo to work on a Alienware Area-51m 7700 or Sentia?  I
am leaning towards the Sentia since I still get performance and mobility
without the bulk of the Area-51m 7700.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: revdep-rebuild and -bin packages (was Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?)

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:55:09 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 It would be nice, I would think, to have some info somewhere on how
 the binary package was built - what flags, what gcc, etc., if only for
 reference.

Binary packages are not compiled by Gentoo, so that information may not
be easy to come by.


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Re: [gentoo-user] distcc configuration

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
michael higgins wrote:
 I have a couple of questions about using distcc. I have two machines. One is 
 significantly faster than the other, both x86 (pentium 2 and amd athlon-xp). 
 
 I've followed the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml instructions for 
 configuring portage to use distcc. Should I need to continue with the 
 instructions for working with automake?
 

Portage does this automatically as long as you have the corresponding FEATURES 
enabled.

 Also, how do I tell the faster machine to just use it's own power and not 
 attempt to use the slower one?
 
When you run distcc-config --set-hosts on the faster machine you want to 
exclude the slower machine.

 I tried so far, getting distccd running on both machines, each distcc-config 
 --set-hosts has one IP entry, that of the other machine. Is this right? 
 

You may want to include localhost.

 I ran distcc-gnome and saw no activity reported on the faster machine when 
 emerging something on the slower one. So, it would seem it's not working. 
 
 Can anyone give me some hints? The manpage for distcc doesn't seem (to me) to 
 be much related to the gentoo how-to... '-)
 
 TIA,
 

#!/bin/bash
source /etc/make.globals
source /etc/make.conf
export DISTCC_DIR=${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/portage/.distcc
exec /usr/bin/distccmon-gnome

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade/Downgrade cycles

2005-06-16 Thread Christoph Gysin
Richard Fish wrote:
 It is a long-standing bug in portage, and apparently not easy to fix.

reference to bugzilla, anyone?

Christoph
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Alienware laptop

2005-06-16 Thread Matthew Cline
On 6/16/05, Michael Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone gotten Gentoo to work on a Alienware Area-51m 7700 or Sentia?  I
 am leaning towards the Sentia since I still get performance and mobility
 without the bulk of the Area-51m 7700.

Have you seen this:

http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/alienware/ (for the 7700)
http://www.transient-iss.com/sentia.html (for the Sentia)

BTW, both of these links came courtesy of http://www.linux-laptop.net/


Matt

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Re: revdep-rebuild and -bin packages (was Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?)

2005-06-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:55:09 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  It would be nice, I would think, to have some info somewhere on how
  the binary package was built - what flags, what gcc, etc., if only for
  reference.
 
 Binary packages are not compiled by Gentoo, so that information may not
 be easy to come by.
 
Oh!! I had no idea that was the case. I always assumed that this was
done by you guys for a few specific packages. If they come from
elsewhere then all bets are certainly off.

Thanks for the eye opening response.

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] distcc configuration

2005-06-16 Thread Catalin Trifu
   Hi,

In order for distcc to actually work there are a few steps to make:
If you have one machine 192.168.0.1 second 192.168.0.2 and assuming
192.168.0.1 is the power
These are the things you should do on the slow machine (there may be
more, i've done it some time ago :)):

first in /etc/make.conf make sure MAKEOPTS is something like this
MAKEOPTS=-jN where N is the number of
CPUs per machine + 2 (1 for each machine). This makes sure make will try
to use as many parallel processes as it should
make sure on both machines you have set-up distccd to listen and to
accept connections, check /etc/conf.d/distcc
on 192.168.0.2 make
# distcc-config --set-hosts 192.168.0.1:3632 3 192.168.0.2:3632 2
this ensures the slow machine will first try the fast one and then
then itself. The number 3 and 2 assume the first machine
is a dual processor and the second is a single processor (number of cpus
+ 1 per machine)
on 192.168.0.1 make
# distcc-config --set-hosts 192.168.0.1:3632 3
only the power machine is used this way or add the same as above if
u also want the slow
in the portage features in /etc/make.conf there should be distcc
Of course, both machine should use the same build environment (gcc +
glibc + binutils)
That's about it.
# ps aux
from time to time on the machine will show some gcc process and you
will know it works :) If it works once
it will work always.


Hope this helps,
Catalin

 

michael higgins wrote:

I have a couple of questions about using distcc. I have two machines. One is 
significantly faster than the other, both x86 (pentium 2 and amd athlon-xp). 

I've followed the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml instructions for 
configuring portage to use distcc. Should I need to continue with the 
instructions for working with automake?

Also, how do I tell the faster machine to just use it's own power and not 
attempt to use the slower one?

I tried so far, getting distccd running on both machines, each distcc-config 
--set-hosts has one IP entry, that of the other machine. Is this right? 

I ran distcc-gnome and saw no activity reported on the faster machine when 
emerging something on the slower one. So, it would seem it's not working. 

Can anyone give me some hints? The manpage for distcc doesn't seem (to me) to 
be much related to the gentoo how-to... '-)

TIA,


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Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:14:37 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 I am installing 2005.0 onto an empty partition.  The bootstrap from
 stage 1 to stage 2 went fine, but 
   emerge --emptytree system
 failed as shown below.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help.
 
 allan
 
 
emerge (37 of 173) dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1 to /
Downloading http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz
 
 --22:06:28--  http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz
= `/usr/portage/distfiles/libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz'
 Resolving gentoo.osuosl.org... 140.211.166.134
 Connecting to gentoo.osuosl.org[140.211.166.134]:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 323,724 [application/x-gzip]
 
 100%[] 323,724   49.55K/sETA 
 00:00
 
 22:06:35 (44.20 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz' 
 saved [323724/323724]
 
 
md5 files   ;-) libgpg-error-0.7-r1.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) libgpg-error-1.0.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) libgpg-error-1.0-r1.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) libgpg-error-0.6-r1.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) ChangeLog
md5 files   ;-) metadata.xml
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-libgpg-error-1.0
md5 files   ;-) files/libgpg-error-1.0-locale.h.patch
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-libgpg-error-0.6-r1
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-libgpg-error-0.7-r1
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-libgpg-error-1.0-r1
md5 src_uri ;-) libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz
Unpacking source...
Unpacking libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz to 
/var/tmp/portage/libgpg-error-1.0-r1/work
 
  * Applying libgpg-error-1.0-locale.h.patch ...   [ 
 ok ]env: autoconf: No such file or directory
 
 !!! ERROR: dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed.
 !!! Function src_unpack, Line 27, Exitcode 127
 !!! autoconf failed
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
 message.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage #


 Does /usr/bin/autoconf exist?

 emerge autoconf-wrapper

 Zac
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Thank you zac.

/usr/bin/autoconf did not exist.  Indeed as shown below a number of
files need to be emerged.  I have started the emerge and will then
redo
   emerge --emptytree system

My question now is what went wrong.  That is, why didn't I have
autoconf after the bootstrap or why didn't the 
  emerge --emptytree system
bring it in before it was needed?

thanks again,
allan



ajglap / # emerge --verbose --ask autoconf-wrapper

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/glib-1.2.10-r5  -debug -hardened 411 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/miscfiles-1.4.2  -minimal 1,489 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-libs/cracklib-2.7-r11  -debug -minimal +pam 20 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.5  514 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r3  647 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.6.3  465 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.7.9-r1  564 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.4_p6  366 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-wrapper-1-r1  0 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.9.5  740 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-libs/pam-0.77-r6  +berkdb -debug -pwdb (-selinux) 3,552 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/pam-login-3.14  -livecd +nls (-selinux) 137 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.5-r3  -debug +nls +pam (-selinux) -skey 988 
kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r6  903 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13  433 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-2-r1  0 kB

Total size of downloads: 11,234 kB

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade/Downgrade cycles

2005-06-16 Thread Richard Fish
Christoph Gysin wrote:

Richard Fish wrote:
  

It is a long-standing bug in portage, and apparently not easy to fix.



reference to bugzilla, anyone?

Christoph
  


I've been trying to get a link, but bugs.gentoo.org seems to
be...well...buggy right now.  Sometimes it responds, sometimes not.  I
do remember that it is under Portage Development, bug id# around
13000.  Maybe you will have better luck looking it up than I.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 
 /usr/bin/autoconf did not exist.  Indeed as shown below a number of
 files need to be emerged.  I have started the emerge and will then
 redo
emerge --emptytree system
 
 My question now is what went wrong.  That is, why didn't I have
 autoconf after the bootstrap or why didn't the 
   emerge --emptytree system
 bring it in before it was needed?
 
 thanks again,
 allan
 

Good question.  My best guess is that you deviated from the handbook or simply 
borked something somehow.  Then again, maybe it's a bug that can be reproduced. 
 Anyone?

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:32:23 -0400 Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:14:37 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 I am installing 2005.0 onto an empty partition.  The bootstrap from
 stage 1 to stage 2 went fine, but 
   emerge --emptytree system
 failed as shown below.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help.
 
 allan
 
 
emerge (37 of 173) dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1 to /
Downloading http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz
 
 --22:06:28--  http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz
= `/usr/portage/distfiles/libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz'
 Resolving gentoo.osuosl.org... 140.211.166.134
 Connecting to gentoo.osuosl.org[140.211.166.134]:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 323,724 [application/x-gzip]
 
 100%[] 323,724   49.55K/sETA 
 00:00
 
 22:06:35 (44.20 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz' 
 saved [323724/323724]
 
 
md5 files   ;-) libgpg-error-0.7-r1.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) libgpg-error-1.0.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) libgpg-error-1.0-r1.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) libgpg-error-0.6-r1.ebuild
md5 files   ;-) ChangeLog
md5 files   ;-) metadata.xml
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-libgpg-error-1.0
md5 files   ;-) files/libgpg-error-1.0-locale.h.patch
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-libgpg-error-0.6-r1
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-libgpg-error-0.7-r1
md5 files   ;-) files/digest-libgpg-error-1.0-r1
md5 src_uri ;-) libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz
Unpacking source...
Unpacking libgpg-error-1.0.tar.gz to 
/var/tmp/portage/libgpg-error-1.0-r1/work
 
  * Applying libgpg-error-1.0-locale.h.patch ...   [ 
 ok ]env: autoconf: No such file or directory
 
 !!! ERROR: dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed.
 !!! Function src_unpack, Line 27, Exitcode 127
 !!! autoconf failed
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
 message.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage #


 Does /usr/bin/autoconf exist?

 emerge autoconf-wrapper

 Zac
 -- 
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 Thank you zac.

 /usr/bin/autoconf did not exist.  Indeed as shown below a number of
 files need to be emerged.  I have started the emerge and will then
 redo
emerge --emptytree system

 My question now is what went wrong.  That is, why didn't I have
 autoconf after the bootstrap or why didn't the 
   emerge --emptytree system
 bring it in before it was needed?

 thanks again,
 allan

 

 ajglap / # emerge --verbose --ask autoconf-wrapper

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N] dev-libs/glib-1.2.10-r5  -debug -hardened 411 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-apps/miscfiles-1.4.2  -minimal 1,489 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-libs/cracklib-2.7-r11  -debug -minimal +pam 20 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.5  514 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r3  647 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.6.3  465 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.7.9-r1  564 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.4_p6  366 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-wrapper-1-r1  0 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/automake-1.9.5  740 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-libs/pam-0.77-r6  +berkdb -debug -pwdb (-selinux) 3,552 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-apps/pam-login-3.14  -livecd +nls (-selinux) 137 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.5-r3  -debug +nls +pam (-selinux) -skey 
 988 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r6  903 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13  433 kB
 [ebuild  N] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-2-r1  0 kB

 Total size of downloads: 11,234 kB

 Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
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This failed as well.  When trying to emerge automake,
/usr/bin/autoconf is needed (see below).  I could copy
/usr/bin/autoconf from my current gentoo to this new one, but I would
like to do a clean install.  Should I get a new stage1 file and
start over?

allan



 emerge (5 of 16) sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r3 to /
 Downloading http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/automake-1.8.5.tar.bz2
--21:35:10--  http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/automake-1.8.5.tar.bz2
   = `/usr/portage/distfiles/automake-1.8.5.tar.bz2'
Resolving gentoo.osuosl.org... 140.211.166.134
Connecting to gentoo.osuosl.org[140.211.166.134]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 663,182 [application/x-tar]

100%[] 663,182   77.72K/sETA 00:00

21:35:18 (86.37 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/automake-1.8.5.tar.bz2' saved 
[663182/663182]

 md5 files   ;-) automake-1.9.5.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) automake-1.5.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) automake-1.7.9-r1.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) automake-1.6.3.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) automake-1.4_p6.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) automake-1.9.4.ebuild
 md5 

Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 This failed as well.  When trying to emerge automake,
 /usr/bin/autoconf is needed (see below).  I could copy
 /usr/bin/autoconf from my current gentoo to this new one, but I would
 like to do a clean install.  Should I get a new stage1 file and
 start over?

I recommend a stage3 install to everyone unless you can't get a stage3 for your 
CHOST.  IMO the progression from stage1 to stage3 is best handled by catalyst.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:44:04 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 
 /usr/bin/autoconf did not exist.  Indeed as shown below a number of
 files need to be emerged.  I have started the emerge and will then
 redo
emerge --emptytree system
 
 My question now is what went wrong.  That is, why didn't I have
 autoconf after the bootstrap or why didn't the 
   emerge --emptytree system
 bring it in before it was needed?
 
 thanks again,
 allan
 

 Good question.  My best guess is that you deviated from the handbook
 or simply borked something somehow.  Then again, maybe it's a bug
 that can be reproduced.  Anyone?

I agree that it is most likely operator error.  The only thing I
(knowingly) did slightly different from the base install is that I am
installing on a clean partition but did *not* do a mkfs.

The partition to hold my new gentoo (/dev/hdc3, the only hard disk is
hdc) is my current active partition, i.e. grub is in its boot block.

I wish to continue using this boot block (I dual boot windows to
(shamefully) play diablo II; and have had trouble in the past with
windows so try to not affect anything it its path to booting).

Note that with this new installation I have *not* yet reached the
point of configuring the kernel or installing grub.

What I do is remove all the directories (and hidden files) except
for boot and rename boot to boot-old.  Then I bring in stage1 and
unpack.

When I want to reboot into my old system I move the boot from the
stage1 unpack to boot-new and move boot-old to boot.

I don't see how this could affect /usr/bin/autoconf but of course
finger slips can occur.

Anyway I will try again and will check at various points if
/usr/bin/autoconf exists.

Thanks again for your help.
allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:59:30 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 This failed as well.  When trying to emerge automake,
 /usr/bin/autoconf is needed (see below).  I could copy
 /usr/bin/autoconf from my current gentoo to this new one, but I would
 like to do a clean install.  Should I get a new stage1 file and
 start over?

 I recommend a stage3 install to everyone unless you can't get a
 stage3 for your CHOST.  IMO the progression from stage1 to stage3 is
 best handled by catalyst.

Perhaps this is sound pragmatic advice and, if I didn't have a fully
functional gentoo on which to run, I would adopt it.  However, I am
somewhat bitten by the do-it-from-scratch bug (not enough to
actually use linuxfromscratch) and would like to see what went wrong
so I will try again from stage1.

The handbook suggests that with stage3, you can't tweak all the
settings.  Can you change CFLAGS and then bootstrap gcc and glibc?

thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Major ndiswrapper problems - was Re: [gentoo-user] ndiswrapper problems

2005-06-16 Thread Colin

Craig Duncan wrote:


Colin wrote:

 


Finally.  I'm sending this email from a working Gentoo system.

My wireless card (D-Link DWL-120+, ACX100 chipset) had trouble with
acx100, so I unmerged that and gave ndiswrapper a shot.  As you can see,
it works, despite not being listed on ndiswrapper's compatibility page. 
(I should probably add it.)


Anyway, the problem here is that when you reboot the system, the
wireless card doesn't find my access point (D-Link DI-614+), not even
with iwlist wlan0 scan.  It's only after bringing down wlan0, bringing
up wlan0, and issuing iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid my network
ESSID channel my channel key open s:my key nick computer's
nickname commit that it might come online.  And then I need to run
dhcpcd and then re-add the gateway (it's a different computer, not the
AP).  If it still doesn't work, I just mess around until I can ping an
outside host.

Is there an easier way to make this cheap card work without manual
configuration all the time?  net.wlan0 isn't in my /etc/init.d
directory, but I did add wlan0 is in the autoloaded modules list. 
Kernel 2.6.11-gentoo-r11.  Using the tiacxusb.sys and tiacxusb.inf

Windows drivers.
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First make a link in /etc/init.d for your wireless device (wlan0), here
is what I have ...

rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 24246 Apr 14 18:24 net.lo
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 6 Apr 14 18:24 net.eth0 - net.lo
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root 8 Oct 26  2004 net.wlan0 - net.eth0

Next add this to the default runlevel
rc-update add net.wlan0 default

Finally, edit /etc/conf.d/wireless and put your settings in there (read
the wireless.example first).

Test: /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 restart

I'd give that a shot, but Linux seems to lock up randomly.  Commands 
such as ping website and dhcpcd sometimes crash the system.  It only 
spits out a panic message when it crashes outside of X, and when it 
does, ndiswrapper is mentioned in the panic.  The only reason for it 
crashing that I can come up with would be my kernel upgrade 
(2.6.11-gentoo-r9 to -r11), but it was working after the upgrade for 
like a day or so.


It doesn't lock up if the wireless card isn't connected to my network.  
It seems right after I connect to the network and send a few packets, 
the entire system locks up.


I hate this card.  I'm going to buy a Linux-compatible PCI wireless card 
(Prism chipset) and then sell this one to some Windows user on eBay.  
But in the meantime, I'd like to see if I can get this one working.


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[gentoo-user] stage1 vs. stage3 was Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Allan Gottlieb wrote:

I recommend a stage3 install to everyone unless you can't get a
stage3 for your CHOST.  IMO the progression from stage1 to stage3 is
best handled by catalyst.
 
 
 Perhaps this is sound pragmatic advice and, if I didn't have a fully
 functional gentoo on which to run, I would adopt it.  However, I am
 somewhat bitten by the do-it-from-scratch bug (not enough to
 actually use linuxfromscratch) and would like to see what went wrong
 so I will try again from stage1.
 
 The handbook suggests that with stage3, you can't tweak all the
 settings.  Can you change CFLAGS and then bootstrap gcc and glibc?
 

You can tweak all you want with a stage3 except for CHOST.  An emerge -e 
world will always actualize all of your tweaks.  You can tweak your own stage3 
if you build it yourself with catalyst.

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Re: revdep-rebuild and -bin packages (was Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage?)

2005-06-16 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Thu, June 16, 2005 10:20 pm, Mark Knecht said:

 Binary packages are not compiled by Gentoo, so that information may not
 be easy to come by.

 Oh!! I had no idea that was the case. I always assumed that this was
 done by you guys for a few specific packages. If they come from
 elsewhere then all bets are certainly off.

The *-bin packages, as opposed to the binary GRP packages, are where the
developers supply a binary, such as OOo and the Mozilla family.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI radeon drivers/config

2005-06-16 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Maybe you have a previous version of the ati-drivers, and you have a
2.6.11 or like kernel. If you are not using the last ati-drivers, you
need 2.6.10 in order to make them work succesfully.

Bye.

El jue, 16-06-2005 a las 18:38 +0300, Martins escribi:
 fglrx failing to load
 
 mar log # modprobe -l fglrx
 /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r11/video/fglrx.ko
 
 and here some interesting parts
 
 mar log # cat dmesg | grep fglrx
 fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies,  
 Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
 fglrx: Unknown symbol agp_bind_memory
 fglrx: Unknown symbol agp_enable
 fglrx: Unknown symbol agp_backend_acquire
 fglrx: Unknown symbol agp_free_memory
 fglrx: Unknown symbol agp_allocate_memory
 fglrx: Unknown symbol agp_unbind_memory
 fglrx: Unknown symbol agp_copy_info
 fglrx: Unknown symbol agp_backend_release
 
 mar log # cat dmesg | grep radeon
 radeon: Unknown symbol remap_page_range
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:00:07 +0300, Rafael Fernndez Lpez  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Check some things:
 
  * fglrx is loaded in the kenrel (lsmod).
  * fglrx is loaded as the xserver driver.
  * Run # opengl-update ati
  * BE CAREFUL: You must not have COMPOSITE EXTENSION enabled in the
  xorg.conf or your fglrx module will not direct render.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 vs. stage3 was Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:32:00 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 
 The handbook suggests that with stage3, you can't tweak all the
 settings.  Can you change CFLAGS and then bootstrap gcc and glibc?

 You can tweak all you want with a stage3 except for CHOST.  An
 emerge -e world will always actualize all of your tweaks.  You can
 tweak your own stage3 if you build it yourself with catalyst.

I see.  If the compiler source changes (say a better optimization),
you need to compile it twice; but if we just change flags, compiling
once is sufficient.

It appears the handbook is misleading in describing the differences
between the stages.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 vs. stage3 was Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 At Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:32:00 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Allan Gottlieb wrote:

The handbook suggests that with stage3, you can't tweak all the
settings.  Can you change CFLAGS and then bootstrap gcc and glibc?

You can tweak all you want with a stage3 except for CHOST.  An
emerge -e world will always actualize all of your tweaks.  You can
tweak your own stage3 if you build it yourself with catalyst.
 
 
 I see.  If the compiler source changes (say a better optimization),
 you need to compile it twice; but if we just change flags, compiling
 once is sufficient.
 
 It appears the handbook is misleading in describing the differences
 between the stages.
 
 allan

Can you point out which part of the handbook is misleading?  This part about 
the CHOST seems pretty clear to me:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5#doc_chap5_sect2

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Re: [gentoo-user] distcc configuration

2005-06-16 Thread William Kenworthy
There were some changes to the tool chain which means that distcc wont
work across different x86 archs (e.g., athlon and pentium) and the devs
wont change it (marked as WONT FIX on the bug).  

The workaround is to add CC-gcc and CXX=g++ to make .conf on the client,
however this may break other things, not to mention that it isnt
currently working for me with gcc3.4 (multiple toolchain scenario).
This is a real pita as distcc is most useful when using a fast modern
machine supporting slow older machines, which usually means different
x86 archs.

If you use distcc, turn logging on on the server and make sure its
really working, and not going through the motions and silently erroring
off.

see the distcc buglist (#84942) and I think some forum posts for the
gory details ...

BillK


On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 12:56 -0400, michael higgins wrote:
 I have a couple of questions about using distcc. I have two machines. One is 
 significantly faster than the other, both x86 (pentium 2 and amd athlon-xp). 
 
 I've followed the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml instructions for 
 configuring portage to use distcc. Should I need to continue with the 
 instructions for working with automake?
 
 Also, how do I tell the faster machine to just use it's own power and not 
 attempt to use the slower one?
 
 I tried so far, getting distccd running on both machines, each distcc-config 
 --set-hosts has one IP entry, that of the other machine. Is this right? 
 
 I ran distcc-gnome and saw no activity reported on the faster machine when 
 emerging something on the slower one. So, it would seem it's not working. 
 
 Can anyone give me some hints? The manpage for distcc doesn't seem (to me) to 
 be much related to the gentoo how-to... '-)
 
 TIA,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Bob Sanders
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:11:33 +0800
Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Actually I would use fdisk/mke2fs and tar rather than rsync since it's
 much faster that way. 
 


I'd suggest another option - use xfs and xfsdump and xfsrestore.
At the bottom of the xfsdump man page there are examples of
ways to dump out the file system.

The way I moved my /home from a small disk to a larger one was -

fdisk/cfdisk the new drive
mkfs.xfs /dev/sda (it was attached via a USB to ide adapter)
mkdir /d2
mount /dev/sda1 /d2
xfsdump - /home | xfsrestore - /d2/

There is a similar dump/restore for the ext2 filesystem - app-arch/dump.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] cloning drivers that are not the same size

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Bob Sanders wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:11:33 +0800
 Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
Actually I would use fdisk/mke2fs and tar rather than rsync since it's
much faster that way. 

 
 
 
 I'd suggest another option - use xfs and xfsdump and xfsrestore.
 At the bottom of the xfsdump man page there are examples of
 ways to dump out the file system.
 
 The way I moved my /home from a small disk to a larger one was -
 
 fdisk/cfdisk the new drive
 mkfs.xfs /dev/sda (it was attached via a USB to ide adapter)
 mkdir /d2
 mount /dev/sda1 /d2
 xfsdump - /home | xfsrestore - /d2/
 
 There is a similar dump/restore for the ext2 filesystem - app-arch/dump.
 
 Bob
 - 
 -  

This method looks interesting.  I found a quote from Linux Torvalds saying dump 
can misbehave if there are dirty buffers.  Has anyone experienced that?

 http://www.geoffholden.com/content/presentations/Backups/

How about benchmarks?  Has anyone seen benchmarks of dump vs. partimage vs. tar 
vs. rsync vs. cp?  That would be interesting.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] Baselayout update blasted my wireless networking

2005-06-16 Thread Bill Rucker
Somewhere around Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:04:48PM +0200, a message
from Richard Fish went like this:
 Jun 14 21:01:02 gt40 cardmgr[5320]: executing: './network start eth1 21'
 Jun 14 21:01:02 gt40 cardmgr[5320]: + /usr/sbin/iwconfig eth1 channel 8
 Jun 14 21:01:02 gt40 cardmgr[5320]: + Error for wireless request Set 
 Frequency
 (8B04) :
   
 
 
 I'm not sure I understand this output...this happens even before the
 net.eth1 script is executed, because the first thing it will do is try
 to load modules, which causes the warning below.  Did you modify the
 pcmcia network script to add an iwconfig command?

I have had my wireless working right along using pcmcia and the
/etc/wireless/wireless.opts. There are no iwconfig parms set up in that file
though, just pretty much the same info I have in this arrangement. Could having
pcmcia set to run at default and trying to configure the wireless have something
to do with the problem?

 Ok, this message happens if iwlist eth1 scanning doesn't produce any
 output on stdout.  Could you try running that command and see what you get?

This is what I get when I run that command:
eth1  Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported

Its been so long since I set my wireless up to run with the pcmcia script I have
to back and look at how to turn it off.

Bill

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 vs. stage3 was Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:09:34 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 At Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:32:00 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Allan Gottlieb wrote:

The handbook suggests that with stage3, you can't tweak all the
settings.  Can you change CFLAGS and then bootstrap gcc and glibc?

You can tweak all you want with a stage3 except for CHOST.  An
emerge -e world will always actualize all of your tweaks.  You can
tweak your own stage3 if you build it yourself with catalyst.
 
 
 I see.  If the compiler source changes (say a better optimization),
 you need to compile it twice; but if we just change flags, compiling
 once is sufficient.
 
 It appears the handbook is misleading in describing the differences
 between the stages.
 
 allan

 Can you point out which part of the handbook is misleading?  This
 part about the CHOST seems pretty clear to me:
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5#doc_chap5_sect2

It is the part where the differences between the stages are described.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=2#doc_chap2

It is not wrong as it only mentions tweaking initial settings, but I
would say that a normal reading is that stage gives you less ability
to tweak the *final* system even though this is not stated.

allan

Stage1  Pros and Cons
+   Allows you to have total control over the optimization settings and 
optional build-time functionality that is initially enabled on your system
+   Suitable for powerusers that know what they are doing
+   Allows you to learn more about the inner workings of Gentoo
-   Takes a long time to finish the installation
-   If you don't intend to tweak the settings, it is a waste of time
-   Requires a working Internet connection during the installation

A Stage2 Approach

A stage2 is used for building the entire system from a bootstrapped 
semi-compiled state.

Stage2 installs allow you to skip the bootstrap process; doing this is fine if 
you are happy with the optimization settings that we chose for your particular 
stage2 tarball.
Stage2  Pros and Cons
+   You don't need to bootstrap
+   Faster than starting with stage1
+   You can still tweak your settings
-   You cannot tweak as much as with a stage1
-   It's still not the fastest way to install Gentoo
-   You have to accept the optimizations we chose for the bootstrap
-   Requires a working Internet connection during the installation

A Stage3 Approach

A stage3 installation contains a basic Gentoo Linux system that has been built 
for you. You will only need to build a few packages of which we can't decide 
for you which one to choose.

Choosing to go with a stage3 allows for the fastest install of Gentoo Linux, 
but also means that your base system will have the optimization settings that 
we chose for you (which to be honest, are good settings and were carefully 
chosen to enhance performance while maintaining stability). Stage3 is also 
required if you want to install Gentoo using prebuilt packages or without a 
network connection.
Stage3  Pros and Cons
+   Fastest way to get a Gentoo base system
-   You cannot tweak the base system - it's built already

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 vs. stage3 was Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Zac Medico
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 
 It is the part where the differences between the stages are described.
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=2#doc_chap2
 
 It is not wrong as it only mentions tweaking initial settings, but I
 would say that a normal reading is that stage gives you less ability
 to tweak the *final* system even though this is not stated.
 
 allan
 
 Stage1Pros and Cons
 + Allows you to have total control over the optimization settings and 
 optional build-time functionality that is initially enabled on your system
 + Suitable for powerusers that know what they are doing
 + Allows you to learn more about the inner workings of Gentoo
 - Takes a long time to finish the installation
 - If you don't intend to tweak the settings, it is a waste of time
 - Requires a working Internet connection during the installation
 
 A Stage2 Approach
 
 A stage2 is used for building the entire system from a bootstrapped 
 semi-compiled state.
 
 Stage2 installs allow you to skip the bootstrap process; doing this is fine 
 if you are happy with the optimization settings that we chose for your 
 particular stage2 tarball.
 Stage2Pros and Cons
 + You don't need to bootstrap
 + Faster than starting with stage1
 + You can still tweak your settings
 - You cannot tweak as much as with a stage1
 - It's still not the fastest way to install Gentoo
 - You have to accept the optimizations we chose for the bootstrap
 - Requires a working Internet connection during the installation
 
 A Stage3 Approach
 
 A stage3 installation contains a basic Gentoo Linux system that has been 
 built for you. You will only need to build a few packages of which we can't 
 decide for you which one to choose.
 
 Choosing to go with a stage3 allows for the fastest install of Gentoo Linux, 
 but also means that your base system will have the optimization settings that 
 we chose for you (which to be honest, are good settings and were carefully 
 chosen to enhance performance while maintaining stability). Stage3 is also 
 required if you want to install Gentoo using prebuilt packages or without a 
 network connection.
 Stage3Pros and Cons
 + Fastest way to get a Gentoo base system
 - You cannot tweak the base system - it's built already
 

IMO it's misleading where it says cannot for stage2 and stage3. That is too 
harsh of a word.  Like I mentioned before, emerge -e world rebuilds 
*everything* so that all your tweaks will be actualized.  It could miss some 
packages but you can get those with emerge -a depclean.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade/Downgrade cycles

2005-06-16 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 17 June 2005 06:11, Christoph Gysin wrote:
 Richard Fish wrote:
  It is a long-standing bug in portage, and apparently not easy to fix.

 reference to bugzilla, anyone?

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13632


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[gentoo-user] Best way to build a Minimal Gentoo

2005-06-16 Thread Ow Mun Heng
I'm talking about something stripped down. Perhaps not to a size of 8MB
but something less than 100MB would be good.

How does one do that? 

This will be a box which will not have portage included once everything
is up.

Most likely will be building with uclibc and the uclibc stage1.

Any other pointers? And how does one substitute bash(and others) with
busybox can it be defined up front so it portage doesn't pull in the
dependencies etc?

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage1 vs. stage3 was Re: [gentoo-user] installation failure (libgpg-error-1.0-r1 failed during emerge --emptytree)

2005-06-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:38:13 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 
 It is the part where the differences between the stages are described.
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=2#doc_chap2
 
 It is not wrong as it only mentions tweaking initial settings, but I
 would say that a normal reading is that stage gives you less ability
 to tweak the *final* system even though this is not stated.
 
 allan
 
 Stage2   Pros and Cons
 +You can still tweak your settings
 -You cannot tweak as much as with a stage1
 
 A Stage3 Approach
 
 Stage3   Pros and Cons
 +Fastest way to get a Gentoo base system
 -You cannot tweak the base system - it's built already
 

 IMO it's misleading where it says cannot for stage2 and
 stage3. That is too harsh of a word.  Like I mentioned before,
 emerge -e world rebuilds *everything* so that all your tweaks will
 be actualized.  It could miss some packages but you can get those
 with emerge -a depclean.

Agreed.
allan
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