[gentoo-user] KDE4 + python3.1 == no system-config-printer-kde ?
Hi everybody, Is it me missing out on something or does KDE4 (namely PyKDE4) is borked when default python is set to 3.1? # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 [2] python3.1 * # eselect python list --python3 Available Python 3 interpreters: [1] python3.1 * # eselect python list --python2 Available Python 2 interpreters: [1] python2.7 * # grep python /etc/make.conf pygrub python python3 pulseaudio qalculate qt3 qt3support with all of the above PyKDE4 compiles, however kde-base/system-config-printer-kde-4.6.3 barfs: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindPyKDE4.py", line 8, in import PyKDE4.pykdeconfig with a bit of look-around it seems like pykde4 has: RESTRICT_PYTHON_ABIS="2.4" which boils down to (what seems like) pykde4 is built only for 3.1 # epm -ql pykde4 | grep pykdeconfig /usr/lib64/python3.1/site-packages/PyKDE4/pykdeconfig.py should I be performing some other waving in the air to make this whole thing fly? It seems like a bug to me, but I'd rather confirm I'm not missing something before reporting it.
[gentoo-user] Gentoo + KDE + pulseaudio + ? == happiness
Hi everybody, not trying to stir up a flamewar about pulseaudio viability etc. I want to make my setup work *with* the pulseaudio, but I feel like I'm missing something. So I'd rather avoid comments "don't use it then" if at all possible. What I have: Gentoo + KDE-4.4.5 + pulseaudio-0.9.21.1 How I use it: In KDE I've got Xine backend setup for playback (if I use gstreamer I get higher frequency of problems popping up, see below). Problems I see: Whenever any app tries to use KDE sound notification system I have a good chance of sound becoming garbled in Amarok (while listening to the music), heck even non-KDE apps like Skype would work fine until something else decides to use sound device (like gnash/lighspark, etc.). Chances of getting garbled sound are 50/50 - it's never a guarantee: sometimes it works - sometimes it "crashes". To get sound back I have to restart app (Skype, Firefox, Amarok, etc.). How I configured it: $ cat /etc/asound.conf # as per http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#ALSAApplications # we're using pulseaudio for everything now... # pcm.pulse { type pulse } ctl.pulse { type pulse } pcm.!default { type pulse } ctl.!default { type pulse } $ cat ~/.asoundrc pcm.hda-intel { type hw card 0 } ctl.hda-intel { type hw card 0 } I've been living with above problems for a while now not having much time to investigate and writing it off as immaturity of stack, but it was out for quite a while and obviously people use it with better rate of success (judging by online resources). My HW looks like this: $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia HDA NVidia at 0xfe02 irq 20 2 [U0x46d0x809]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x809 USB Device 0x46d:0x809 at usb-:00:02.1-2, high speed (second device is a Logitec's USB WebCam). I realize it may be a question more geared toward pulseaudio community but I'd rather find out whether there's something Gentoo-specific I'm missing first.
[gentoo-user] Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and sound card
Hi everybody, I have just bought Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and much to my suprise things pretty much worked out of the box... almost. As I have discovered - even though video is working flawlessly, my audio has gone AWOL. No matter how many goats and virgins I have sacrificed to the gods of Google - can not find an answer. Am I missing something obvious? As a stop-gap measure I'm trying to rebuild my kernel without USB sound support, but it would be nice to not resort to such drastic measures.
[gentoo-user] Kgpg (KDE4) and missing menu items
Hi all, is it me, or does Kgpg (KDE4) indeed miss menu items for "Keys/export" , "Keys/reload" and so forth? I haven't noticed anything like that with any other application so far so I'm curious if that's something in my settings, or shall I stroll over to bugs.kde.org and file it?
Re: [gentoo-user] k3b
On March 17, 2009, Roger Cahn wrote: > Hi, > > k3b will not emerge, in spite it was emerged before: > Failed to emerge app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r3 > On my laptop it worked fine. > > Here are the flags: > > app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r3 USE="alsa dvd dvdr encode hal mp3 vorbis -arts > -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd > -xinerama" LINGUAS="fr > > Here are the last lines: ... > make -j2 > make all-recursive > make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire « > /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r3/work/k3b-1.0.5 » > Making all in doc > make[2]: entrant dans le répertoire « > /var/tmp/portage/app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r3/work/k3b-1.0.5/doc » > /usr/kde/3.5/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook > /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xml-dtd-4.1.2/dbcentx.mod:80: > warning: failed to load external entity > "/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xml-dtd-4.1.2/ent/iso-amsn.ent >" %ISOamsn; > ^ > Entity: line 1: > %ISOamsn; > ^ epm -qf /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xml-dtd-4.1.2/ent/iso-amsn.ent kdelibs-3.5.9-r4 looks like your problem somewhere with kdelibs and not k3b. Either that or docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r3 IMO. Try to re-merge those two and then k3b. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...
On December 4, 2008, Adam Carter wrote: > > Open a Wiki page on Wikipedia, update it every so often and > > provide simple > > parser for it so others can recycle same IPs. Since it's a > > Wiki page - others > > can update it as well (including botnet owners, but then > > they'd have to reveal themselves - tricky situation) :) > > Reveal themselves in what way? If you're taking about source IP, they can > just use one of their bots to make the page update... true. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...
On December 4, 2008, Christian Franke wrote: > I just don't see what blocking ssh-bruteforce attempts should be good > for, at least on a server where few _users_ are active. Considering how much creative paranoia I've exposed in this thread it might come as a surprise, but I do agree with the above statement. Strong passwords (or key-only authentication) would prevent brute-force attacks from being successfull. The only thing that is semi-usefull side-effect is that you can identify compromised machines and deny ANY type of traffic from them preventing possible DoS launched against you. But then IPs are so easy to spoof :) Balance is what makes sysadmin comfortable enough and doesn't compromise usability of the server, so everybody decides for themselves. OP obviously wants that "extra" layer of protection and notification so with a bit of creativity and some external tools it's possible to achieve. As long as he doesn't forget about other aspects of security - he should do just fine with all those extra measures :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...
On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote: > Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > >> Erm - surely I either need to set up my client to port-knock... which > >> is a faff I'd rather avoid... in order to use the technique. > > > > nope. just start connection. wait a minute. cancel. start another one. > > wait a minute. cancel. start new one - voila! :) > > Eeew... especially as this would apply to all connections - even the > ones where I have a DSA key. I might be able to cope with this if it > only applied to my initial connection, from which I could grab a copy of > the DSA key. Ok, let's theoreticise some more. My paranoia feels particularly frisky today, so here it is: remember, I've mentioned origianlly that once you authenticate successfully once with DSA key - your IP is whitelisted. So subsequent connections go right through. > > well. Nobody but you knows your requiremens and specifics - we're just > > listing options. It's up to you to either take 'em or leave 'em ;) > > Fair enough - but I've still not found an option for sharing/using > shared block lists for bot-nets. Open a Wiki page on Wikipedia, update it every so often and provide simple parser for it so others can recycle same IPs. Since it's a Wiki page - others can update it as well (including botnet owners, but then they'd have to reveal themselves - tricky situation) :) P.S. I think I'd better stop with my mad science projects here before I go too far and invent brand new theory on host protection ;) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...
On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: > > I think using Dmitry's idea of rejecting the first 2 connections, but > > then allowing it as normal on the third attempt would satisfy your > > requirements for being on the normal port, allowing all IPs and > > requiring no special setup on the client end (other than knowing they > > have to to retry twice). > > Erm - surely I either need to set up my client to port-knock... which is > a faff I'd rather avoid... in order to use the technique. nope. just start connection. wait a minute. cancel. start another one. wait a minute. cancel. start new one - voila! :) > While I recognise port knocking as a valuable strategy in some > circumstances, it seems a very bad fit for my needs. well. Nobody but you knows your requiremens and specifics - we're just listing options. It's up to you to either take 'em or leave 'em ;) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...
On December 3, 2008, Paul Hartman wrote: > Of course, this is assuming the botnet stops after rejected connections... oh no, not rejected - dropped ;) let them go through pains of timing out without knowing if anything is actually listening on the other side ;) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...
On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote: > I have, in the past, used DSA only keys - but this was frustrating on > several occasions when I wanted access to my server and didn't have my > SSH keys available to me... I almost always connect using a key pair > rather than a password - but the password option is very useful to allow > me to get hold of my SSH keys in the first place in some environments. > If I found a distributed attack on a valid user name, for example, I'd > consider this a critical change - however inconvenient. get yourself some portable linux device capable of either USB, ethernet or wifi connection (OpenMoko, Nokia NXXX, etc.) plug your keys there - and voila, you've got yourelf both secure terminal and key storage in one box. I would be highly suspicious initiating SSH connection with my servers from untrusted box (which is any box not built and maintained by me ;) ) as there is a chance of keylogger (no matter how friendly owner of spoken box is - you don't know if he wasn't hacked and you have no time for even casual checking). You can use variation of port-knocking and reverse your strategy based on the pattern: 1. drop first connection from specified IP and record it in "first_try" table 2. drop second connection from specified IP and record it in "second_try" table 3. if IP is in both first_try and second_try - allow it to attempt authentication but only with the keys. (removing it from *_try tables and possibly recording it in whitelist) 4. if IP fails X number of attempts within specified timeframe - remove from whitelist and record in blacklist bit tricky logic, but fairly simple to implement (I use *BSD PF so no ready recipe for iptables here ;) ). bit paranoid, but it covers your initial concern with distributed attack and single-attempts. You can further collect older entries from first_try into blacklist and do whatever you please with them. You can also collect high-frequency attempts into blacklist and have very big blacklist you can sell off on eBay :) P.S. I actually don't do any of the above. It was just a surge of creative paranoia in response to initial request :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious pattern in log files from ssh...
On December 3, 2008, Steve wrote: > Sure, I could use IPtables to block all these bad ports... or... I could > disable password authentication entirely... but I keep thinking that > there has to be something better I can do... any suggestions? Is there > a simple way to integrate a block-list of known-compromised hosts into > IPtables - rather like my postfix is configured to drop connections from > known spam sources from the sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org DNS block list, for > example. I went the path of paswordless entries (i.e. DSA/RSA keys) and I think it helped a lot, no botnet/worm/cracker is known to do selective key assembly so far and it's a labour-intensive process. I think applying keys is a very good step forward (well, and make sure every externally exposed service is properly patched and secured ;) ). -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't
On November 25, 2008, Stroller wrote: > On 25 Nov 2008, at 14:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > ... > > I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff. Only KDE3. > > I can't help wondering if that's your problem. You unmasked KDE on > your own machine... now in the main tree KDE 3 is no longer masked, > but KDE 4 is available (so your machine thinks you wanted it > unmasked). I would try removing *everything* KDE-related from /etc/ > portage/package* & trying `emerge -pv world` again. if Nikos is after 3.5.10 he needs it to be unmasked as it's in ~arch just as KDE4 is ;) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants KDE4, I don't
On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > I didn't unmask nor keyword any *KDE4* stuff. Only KDE3. Previous > portage was happy with that. The new portage is not. I have dozens of > packages in package.keywords that look like this: > > kde-base/kdelibs in which case portage did exactly what you've asked it to. You should've mentioned either which specific versions you're unmasking/keywording or slots. Either way it's not a bug it's a true feature. > Now portage wants to install the 4.1 versions of all those. The > previous portage did not; I had to tell it to keyword the 4.1 versions > if I wanted that. It exhibits proper behavior, what's wrong with that? I'd be surprised if I ran system with blanket keyworded kde builds (no slot or version mentioning) and portage wouldn't suggest KDE4 install. KDE4 is a successor of KDE3 so it's all correct. The fact that you've enabled ~arch builds without consideration for future implications doesn't constitute fault on part of portage, sorry. I would suggest now and in the future either specify slot or version of package you're unmasking unless you *really* know what you're doing. P.S. KDE3 and KDE4 would live happily alongside each other as long as you have USE="kdeprefix" specified in /etc/make.conf . -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants KDE4, I don't
On November 25, 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > I decided to give portage 2.1.6_rc1 a try. Now it wants to upgrade my > KDE3 to KDE4. I never unmasked or keyworded any KDE4 stuff. Any > options other than removing portage 2.1.6_rc1 again? 1st of all, I'm running 2.2.x versions of portage and never had KDE4 magically unmasked. You'd better check your setup. I do realize that 2.2.x is not 2.1.6_rc1, but what I mean - it must be either a bug in portage or your setup. Find where the problem originates. Do you have ~arch KDE3 ? I suppose you don't run ~arch branch, right? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?
On November 12, 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > wouldn't call it stupid though. FHS compliance is a good thing (I'm a > > sysadmin so I really appreciate when things can be easily located > > universaly). > > why? the FHS is a stupid standard. Why is following stupid standards a good > thing? What next? LSB compliance - because it is great to be broken by > definition? any consistency on a system is a good thing. when you deal with N systems you really appreciate when things are easily located and could be deducted easily even if you don't know where they are. Any standard could easily be called "stupid" but in absense of better alternatives I'd rather have "stupid" standard than none. > > I think what failed is communication on that change. In > > developers defense I'd say that we're dealing with ~arch packages here so > > we've been warned they'll be somewhat not-so-stable. What I think needs > > to happen is gentoo users have to be warned in big red letters everywhere > > possible when upgrading from KDE3 to KDE4 to make firm decision whether > > to use "kdeprefix" or not. > > it would have been better to NOT introduce that kdeprefix flag and instead > introducing a FHS flag - which should have been off by default. The current > way - kdeprefix to get sane behaviour, that turned off, changing the > default behaviour is either stupid or evil. see, that depends on your perspective and long term goal. Like Alan mentioned in his post: if long-term strategy is to have gentoo more FHS-friendly (for whatever reasons) then default compliance is a good thing, if long-term solution is to keep doing things in non-FHS-way (a.k.a. gentoo-way ;) ) then your suggestion is a more viable one. So the real question you want to ask: "Is gentoo as a whole intends to be FHS compliant in the future? What are the reasons for that? Can I opt-out?". For myself I think I know answers for the last two, but for you, I guess you'd have to find out yourself. What would be interesting to know for the entire group is the answer to the first question: "Is gentoo as a whole intends to be FHS compliant in the future?". Does anybody know the answer? > > Enforcing proper FS layout is a good thing IMO. Just needs clear > > communication before marked as stable :) > > Like making kde update interactive? Require a 'yes, I know about kdeprefix' > dialog box? no. there are simplier alternatives. Read Alan's post, and as an alternative here's my take: you can fail building any kde build if state of "kdeprefix" is undefined in /etc/make.conf. So you'd have to have that either explicitely enable or disable there. Not sure if that'd be easy to implement with current portage EAPI (not flaming - just don't know ;) ) > kde has always been in its own directory tree. /opt back in the suse days > for example. Elderly kde documentation told people to install kde in its > own sub tree - and I loved that. I always hated gnome for cluttering /usr > with its garbage. Having a big project like kde in its own tree has a > bazillion of advantages. I can list quite a few disadvantages as well. So it boils down to the matter of personal preference and the direction that gentoo dev team chose for the future. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?
On November 12, 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I had something similar on my first try: > > > > kde-4 went into /usr > > kde-3 went into /usr/kde/3.5 > > > > And bizarre weird errors kept happening. I remerged all of kde-4 with > > USE="kdeprefix" to put it back into /usr/kde/4.1 and all the weirdness > > went away > > in my opinion installing kde straight into /usr and changing the default > behaviour is the most stupid thing gentoo devs have done in the last couple > of years. wouldn't call it stupid though. FHS compliance is a good thing (I'm a sysadmin so I really appreciate when things can be easily located universaly). I think what failed is communication on that change. In developers defense I'd say that we're dealing with ~arch packages here so we've been warned they'll be somewhat not-so-stable. What I think needs to happen is gentoo users have to be warned in big red letters everywhere possible when upgrading from KDE3 to KDE4 to make firm decision whether to use "kdeprefix" or not. Enforcing proper FS layout is a good thing IMO. Just needs clear communication before marked as stable :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?
On November 12, 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008 18:31:41 Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > I've just updated to 4.1.3 (slotted alongside with 3.5.9) and all of > > sudden konqueror and akregator (didn't test much more, but I'm sure > > something else was broke too) stopped launching hinting that there is a > > CSS version mistmatch blah-blah-blah. Path to CSS suggested that 4.1.3 > > was using CSS from 3.5.9 which was bizzare since it was working before. > > > > so I checked my KDEDIRS environment variable and found out that kde-3.5 > > was listed there (no traces of kde-4.1) and to work around it I just > > applied little script that rewrites KDEDIRS to something more usefull (?) > > placing it under ~/.kde-4.1/env/kde4-kdedirs.sh: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > export KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local > > > > and this fixed it. Now my question is: is it something about my setup or > > it's happening to others too? Is there a "more proper" way to fix it? > > I had something similar on my first try: > > kde-4 went into /usr > kde-3 went into /usr/kde/3.5 > > And bizarre weird errors kept happening. I remerged all of kde-4 with > USE="kdeprefix" to put it back into /usr/kde/4.1 and all the weirdness went > away I've dealt with this in the past too. I'm pretty sure I have enabled "kdeprefix" before 4.1.3 merge. I know it's there now and emerge -uDNp world doesn't show anything to be rebuilt due to useflag change. :( -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?
On November 12, 2008, Peter Alfredsen wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > I've just updated to 4.1.3 (slotted alongside with 3.5.9) and all of > > sudden konqueror and akregator (didn't test much more, but I'm sure > > something else was broke too) stopped launching hinting that there is > > a CSS version mistmatch blah-blah-blah. Path to CSS suggested that > > 4.1.3 was using CSS from 3.5.9 which was bizzare since it was working > > before. > > You need to go fully ~arch on KDE for them to co-exist in a nicer way. looking at BGO I somehow don't feel too encouraged to go fully ~arch ;) http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=3.5.10 most of bugs listed above suggest that things break when moving in 3.5.10 direction. I'm not really prepeared to part with 1 stable platform in favor of using 2 unstable ones ;) I'll have to live with workarounds for a while I think, since I really depend on 3.5.x (i.e. fully functional KDE) and 4.1.3 is more of sneak-peek and an attempt to adjust/get used to the "new way" ahead of time :) Another silly question that bothers me now: KDE3 menu displayes "double" entires for most KDE applications whereas KDE4 doesn't. Did anybody try to solve this one (even as a workaround)? This behavior was there ever since I first tried KDE-4.0.x. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] KDE-4.1.3 + KDE-3.5.9 = messed up KDEDIRS ?
Hi everybody, I've just updated to 4.1.3 (slotted alongside with 3.5.9) and all of sudden konqueror and akregator (didn't test much more, but I'm sure something else was broke too) stopped launching hinting that there is a CSS version mistmatch blah-blah-blah. Path to CSS suggested that 4.1.3 was using CSS from 3.5.9 which was bizzare since it was working before. so I checked my KDEDIRS environment variable and found out that kde-3.5 was listed there (no traces of kde-4.1) and to work around it I just applied little script that rewrites KDEDIRS to something more usefull (?) placing it under ~/.kde-4.1/env/kde4-kdedirs.sh: #!/bin/sh export KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local and this fixed it. Now my question is: is it something about my setup or it's happening to others too? Is there a "more proper" way to fix it? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice 3 broken?
On November 4, 2008, Philip Webb wrote: > > I'm back to MSOffice. I hate it but it works. Sorry, might be coming late to this discussion and offering something that was already offered, but how about openoffice-bin ? It works for me 100% of the time on several workstations without a glitch (both x86 and amd64)? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu working but invisible
On July 14, 2008, Matt Harrison wrote: > I ran grub-install as normal and it (apparently) installed the > bootloader without problems. > > However, now, when I boot up, I don't get a grub menu or anything on the > screen. Originally I thought there was a problem and my system wouldn't > boot but I tried pressing return and it booted up without problems. same here on 2 independent machines. Each one exhibits same problem. It's not completely broken but sure as heck is annoying. Did I miss some "new" configuration step you have to do with Grub? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] KDE-4.0.4 (not a nag)
Hi everybody, does anybody know what's happening to KDE4 in gentoo land ? Gentoo-KDE folks were pretty responsive with previous 4.0.x releases updating portage tree etc., but now I can't find much updates on what's happening with 4.0.4. Was it 3.5.9 preparations that took priority? Note: this message is not a nag, it's just my curiosity speaking (well and desire to finally switch to KDE4 as 4.0.3 had some glitches and functionality gaps that prevented my permanent switch so far). -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ?
On February 12, 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > So, the only good reason to move to amd64 is when you buy a 64 bit > > > machine > > > > I have 1G RAM and it's a laptop doesn't serve huge databases so I > > guess despite if my CPU is 64 or 32 bits, I'll just stick with the 32 > > version, works great... > > Agreed. You have no obvious benefits from a 64 bit arch. You also get to > not have to struggle with flash wondering if it will work this time or > not ;-) just a bit of personal experience: flash works beter using nspluginwrapper in 64bit mode because when it hangs - it's a simple as shooting it's wrapper process and not the entire FF. oh, and for whatever reason wine performs better under 64 bit OS rather than 32. Don't have any other proof then my own experience but Diablo LOD runs much smoother once I've rebuilt my system with 64bit with the same useflags and everything else. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does firefox always do DNS query for www.gentoo.org?
On January 29, 2008, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 29 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:31:19PM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Shaochun Wang wrote: > > > > Currently, I find that firefox always try to a dns query for > > > > www.gentoo.org when it starts. I don't know the reason. > > > > > > Could it be you made it its startup page? > > > > When I emerge a new version of firefox, it always loads that page the > > first time it runs; it annoys me too. But it only happens to me the > > first start after a new build. > > It used to be the case that FF would search in advance for the Google or > whichever search engine of choice you have selected (on the top RH search > window) by prefetching some relevant pages. Could this have something to > do with your case? Other than that my guess is that you have setup Gentoo > in some place within FF, or one of its extensions and it loads, or > prefetches the page in question. A search through its config might help. I had impression that FF does checks of pages in your Bookmarks every once in a while which includes updating icon etc. Could that be it? Snoop on the wire to see what does it fetch (sorry, I don't have head of this thread so I don't know if you've done this already). -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] KDE4 and kalgebra
I decided to take KDE4 for a spin and sync'd + unmasked all needed components, however build for kalgebra bombs (messages at the end of email). Before I go to bgo or bko can somebody tell me if I'm not missing something obvious? I did check that Graph3D seems to be comming from Qt-4 and Qt *is* built with OpenGL support which should cover those Graph3D functions, correct? [100%] Building CXX object kalgebra/src/CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/functionimpl.o Linking CXX executable kalgebra CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::new_func3d()': algebra.cpp:(.text+0x189): undefined reference to `Graph3D::setFunc(Expression const&)' CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::save3DGraph()': algebra.cpp:(.text+0xefd): undefined reference to `Graph3D::toPixmap()' CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::KAlgebra(QWidget*)': algebra.cpp:(.text+0x26eb): undefined reference to `Graph3D::Graph3D(QWidget*)' CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::KAlgebra(QWidget*)': algebra.cpp:(.text+0x3dfb): undefined reference to `Graph3D::Graph3D(QWidget*)' CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::set_solid()': algebra.cpp:(.text+0x8d): undefined reference to `Graph3D::setMethod(Graph3D::Type)' CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::set_lines()': algebra.cpp:(.text+0xad): undefined reference to `Graph3D::setMethod(Graph3D::Type)' CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/algebra.o: In function `KAlgebra::set_dots()': algebra.cpp:(.text+0xca): undefined reference to `Graph3D::setMethod(Graph3D::Type)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [kalgebra/src/kalgebra] Error 1 make[1]: *** [kalgebra/src/CMakeFiles/kalgebra.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided
On January 8, 2008, Daniel Iliev wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:23:58 +0200 > > Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Daniel Iliev wrote: > > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:11:09 +0200 > > --snip-- > > > Am I correct in saying you plan to emerge mplayer with a few extra > > params and not much else customizing? In that case the mods you will > > make are simple and need to be done just once. Then paste the same > > changes into a new ebuild each time you want to upgrade > > Actually the changes I want to make are not so few. The whole story is > that several days ago a friend of mine pointed me to a very cool > front-end for mplayer: http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/ > Unfortunately it can't be found in portage yet. http://smplayer.wiki.sourceforge.net/Contributed+Packages lists Berkano Overlay as a source for ebuild. You might want to check it out before you go too far building your own :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] amd64 fresh install woes (configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs.???)
On November 27, 2007, Philip Webb wrote: > 071127 Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > > I decided that the time has come to switch over to 64bit computing > > and went with fresh LiveDVD install of gentoo. > > After doing stage3 install and making syncing portage > > I'm failing updates on gcc and sandbox - both complaining: > > 'configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs' > > I recently installed 64-bit Gentoo on a newly-built machine > & had something very similar happen with Gcc & Sandbox. > Try recompiling your kernel with support for > 'Executable file formats/emulations -> [x] IA32'. Thanks! that was it! After 3 days of fiddling I finally got my 64bit system up and running from scratch. Couple of things that suck is the inability to apply same "GUI style" to 32-bit apps so that they look exatly the same as 64bit (gtk-engines-qt etc.) but that's a minor issue. Most importantly all apps do work so far. > You may also later need for some other pkgs > 'app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs' & some of its brothers. that got pulled in with mozilla-firefox-bin :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] amd64 fresh install woes (configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs.???)
Hi all, Little history: like many on this ML I decided that the time has come to switch over to the 64bit computing and went with fresh LiveDVD install of gentoo. Cruel reality: After doing stage3 install and making syncing portage I'm failing updates on gcc and sandbox - both complaining: configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. for sandbox there was a suggestion of turning off "sandbox" in FEATURES. I did that. In fact my FEATURES is absolutely empty at this point and it's still a no-go. Now before I go and post this in bugs.gentoo.org I'd like to know if maybe it's an 64-bit FAQ and I'm doing something wrong. Any pointers/suggestions/directions are appreciated. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] OT: forum <-> mailing list software
It's a bit off-topic, however I have no other place to ask this question: Which online forum systems offer bi-directional gateway with email system. Examples: * user posts on forum - email is being sent to subscribers (that one almost any forum out there has out-of-the-box) * user replies to email sent by forum software and his/her reply gets posted in appropriate thread of that forum (that is what's important) sending out subsequent notifications to other subscribers of that forum. Now I need software that does *both*. Is there any software that does it. Can't quite figure out approriate query for Google to find one. PhpBB doesn't have any info on that subject and I didn't run any forum software in the past. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] amarok, last.fm and recent updates
Hi everybody, after recent updates (emerge --sync && emerge -uDN world) amarok stopped working with http://last.fm streams. I've experienced same behavior on two separate machines. First I've noticed it on my home machine but thought maybe something changed with last.fm and amarok can't connect to it period. To my surprise my workstation in the office was still working fine (until updates that is). After I updated my workstation in the office amarok stopped picking last.fm streams there too. I did revdep-rebuild with no success. I also re-merged ruby (as some of amarok scripts are written in ruby) and amarok just to be sure - nothing helped so far. Here's a list of packages I've updated in case that helps any: Tue Apr 10 09:42:12 2007 >>> dev-libs/gmp-4.2.1-r1 Tue Apr 10 09:42:25 2007 >>> net-misc/dhcpcd-3.0.16 Tue Apr 10 09:50:23 2007 >>> sys-libs/ncurses-5.6 Tue Apr 10 09:50:50 2007 >>> sys-apps/man-1.6e-r1 Tue Apr 10 09:51:38 2007 >>> sys-apps/man-pages-2.44 Tue Apr 10 09:58:10 2007 >>> sys-libs/db-4.3.29-r2 Tue Apr 10 10:06:06 2007 >>> sys-devel/gdb-6.6-r2 Tue Apr 10 10:06:37 2007 >>> app-text/unrtf-0.20.1 Tue Apr 10 10:06:53 2007 >>> dev-perl/HTML-Tagset-3.10 Tue Apr 10 10:06:59 2007 >>> virtual/perl-libnet-1.19 Tue Apr 10 10:07:18 2007 >>> dev-perl/Crypt-SSLeay-0.51-r1 Tue Apr 10 10:07:34 2007 >>> dev-perl/Parse-Yapp-1.05-r1 Tue Apr 10 10:07:49 2007 >>> dev-perl/libxml-perl-0.08 Tue Apr 10 10:08:09 2007 >>> dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.55 Tue Apr 10 10:08:22 2007 >>> dev-perl/XML-RegExp-0.03-r1 Tue Apr 10 10:08:39 2007 >>> dev-perl/URI-1.35 Tue Apr 10 10:08:53 2007 >>> dev-perl/HTML-Tree-3.23 Tue Apr 10 10:09:15 2007 >>> dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.805 Tue Apr 10 10:09:31 2007 >>> dev-perl/XML-DOM-1.44 Tue Apr 10 10:09:45 2007 >>> dev-perl/XML-XQL-0.68 Tue Apr 10 10:11:06 2007 >>> sys-apps/file-4.20-r1 Tue Apr 10 10:11:37 2007 >>> dev-python/pyxml-0.8.4 Tue Apr 10 10:14:50 2007 >>> dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.11 Tue Apr 10 10:16:53 2007 >>> dev-util/cvs-1.12.12-r4 Tue Apr 10 10:26:24 2007 >>> net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.6-r2 Tue Apr 10 10:26:45 2007 >>> app-portage/layman-1.0.10 Tue Apr 10 10:27:36 2007 >>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin-2.0.0.3 Tue Apr 10 10:53:48 2007 >>> media-gfx/inkscape-0.45.1 Tue Apr 10 12:08:15 2007 >>> media-sound/lastfmplayer-1.1.3-r1 Tue Apr 10 12:52:15 2007 >>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.5-r10 Tue Apr 10 12:54:28 2007 >>> sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2-r2 Tue Apr 10 13:03:09 2007 >>> media-gfx/kphotoalbum-3.0 -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpmSz9mOTbGA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dynamic apache configuration
On Friday 15 December 2006 13:49, Alan wrote: > > #!perl > foreach my $host ( qw( foo bar baz) ) { > >push @PerlConfig, < > DocumentRoot /home/httpd/vhosts/${host}.com/ > ServerName ${host}.com > ServerAliaswww.${host}.com > DirectoryIndex index.html index.shtml index.htm index.php > CustomLog /usr/local/apache/logs/${host}-access.log common > ErrorLog /usr/local/apache/logs/${host}-error.log > [...] you get the picture > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/home/httpd/vhosts/${host}.com/cgi-bin/" > > > EOF > } > __END__ > > > Mod_Perl docs have more info, but that's the gist of it. that's pretty close, thanks. My only worry is how do I hook up database into it so that I don't initiate connection with MySQL per-request, but rather have some pooling or otherwise reuse same connection since there are not updates - only selects. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgp6LfbVYavJB.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] dynamic apache configuration
Somewhat offtopic question, but here it goes: does anybody know of a module for apache that will use database to "suck in" part of apache http.conf file? What I need is dynamicaly manage my apache host with as few FS writes as possible. I remember seeing such a thing long time ago. Now I coudn't find it. mod_vhost doesn't cut it since I need full access to pretty muc all apache statements. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpSx9ivYNDlo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo box "hangs"
On Friday 06 October 2006 00:58, Mick wrote: > I've run memtest86+ a number of times and no errors were shown. > There's a whole thread (either in this ML or in the forums) as to > why memtest is not a foolproof test for your *system* as opposed to > a memory module. Try to search around and look in Google too, in > case you find it. There's alternative tests to memtest involving > running some script (if I remember right). As I said, whichever > test you run you need to make sure that it exercises your whole > memory system (modules, controllers, swap). > > Good luck. :) > > PS. My box would also crash in M$Windoze if the page file was > being used (e.g. manipulating large sections of text or pictures), > but not at the frequency of it crashing under Gentoo with a heavy > emerge and updatedb taking place. Thanks it helps to know that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo box "hangs"
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 18:24, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 04 October 2006 21:01, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > > To eliminate KDE problem I tried to run fluxbox with Firefox && > > xterm - same results - hard freeze. > > > > Did anybody see something similar or at least some educated > > guesses are welcome. > > Last time I experienced something like this was on a desktop which > had incompatible memory modules fitted. Trial and error resulted > in me removing all but one module and the crashes miraculously > stopped! Knoppix alone would not cause any crashes whatsoever, but > as soon as updatedb and an emerge were to take place > simultaneously, the system would crash. In particular, it would > usually crash when the memory of the modules was about to be > exhausted and the system was going to start writing on the swap > partition. It wouldn't happen every single time, but towards the > end it was happening every time I booted the darn thing up. thanks for sharing. One question I have - did you run memtest86 or something similar at the time? The reason I'm asking - I ran memtest86 on this machine and it showed nothing. I'm not entirely sure how much I can trust memtest. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo box "hangs"
I've got a problem that makes me think it's a HW problem but I'm trying to "cover all bases". Here's what happened: Last monday I did my regular emerge --sync && emerge -uDN world all nice and dandy. After that, according to my log files anyway, I did not install a thing. I never rebooted my machine since, except that I think on Thursday it hung up on me so I rebooted it - that's when it started to freeze up on me "randomly" every now and then. At first given all the facts I thought it was HW problem. Right now I'm running Knoppix off the same machine and it didn't freeze up on me even once. That makes me thing it's an OS issue. To eliminate OS I did emerge -e system yet still system freezes up. I can do emerge -e world but I doubt it's going to help. To eliminate KDE problem I tried to run fluxbox with Firefox && xterm - same results - hard freeze. Did anybody see something similar or at least some educated guesses are welcome. Oh, by the way - it's a laptop - IBM X31, the rest is: Portage 2.1.1 (default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.4-r3, 2.6.17 i686) = System uname: 2.6.17 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz Gentoo Base System version 1.12.5 Last Sync: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:30:01 + distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled] app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present] dev-java/java-config: 1.2.11-r1 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r3, 2.4.3-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.17-r1 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=pentium4 -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -msse -msse2" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -march=pentium4 -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -msse -msse2" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="autoconfig buildpkg collision-protect distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict userpriv usersandbox" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp http://gentoo.gg3.net/ http://ftp.gentoo.or.kr/ http://mymirror.asiaosc.org/gentoo/ http://gentoo.channelx.biz/ http://gentoo.kems.net"; LANG="C" LC_ALL="en_US.utf8" LINGUAS="en" MAKEOPTS="-j1" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="x86 X Xaw3d acpi acpi4linux alsa arts artworkextra audiofile authdaemond avantgo ba-completion bcmath berkdb bindist bitmap-fonts bluetooth bootsplash cairo caps cdparanoia cdr chroot cli codecs crypt css cups dbus divx4linux djvu dlloader dnd doc dri dv dvb dvd dvdr dvdread elibc_glibc emboss encode esd exif fam fbcon fbdev ffmpeg firefox flac font-server fortran gamma gdbm gif gimp gimpprint glep glgd gpm graphviz gs gstreamer gtk hal iconv icq idea ieee1394 imagekits imagemagick imap imlib2 innodb input_devices_evdev input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 irda irmc isdnlog j2ee jabber jpeg jpeg2k kde kernel_linux koffice-plugin ldap libg++ libgd linguas_en live lynxkeymap lzo lzw lzw-tiff mad madwifi mikmod mime mimencode ming mmx mmx2 mng monkey mozcalendar mozdevelop mozsha1 mozsvg mozxmlterm mp3 mpeg mplayer msn ncurses netbeans nls nojython nptl nptlonly oci8 ogg opengl opens oracle7 orathreads oscar oss pam pcmcia pcre pda pdf pdfkit perl png pnp postgresql ppds pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime radeon readline reflection samba sdl serial session skey smartcard smime sndfile snmp speedo speex spell spl sse sse2 ssl tcpd tga threads tidy transcode truetype truetype-fonts type1 type1-fonts udev unicode userland_GNU vcd video_cards_radeon video_cards_vesa video_cards_vga videos vidix vim vim-with-x vorbis webdav win32codecs xanim xinerama xml xml2 xmlrpc xorg xosd xpm xscreensaver xv xvid xvmc yahoo zeo zlib" Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xorg and freetype/type1
Did anybody find xorg destabilize after enabling freetype/type1 modules ? My machine freezes up randomly after I activate those two. My config: Pentium M 1.6 IBM ThinkPad X31 gcc (GCC) 3.4.6 (Gentoo 3.4.6-r1, ssp-3.4.5-1.0, pie-8.7.9) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpJ4Lx3zAjKD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Rebuild video drivers after kernel compile?
On Thursday 07 September 2006 08:34, A. R. wrote: > > With modular Xorg, do you still need to re-build your video > > drivers after every time you re-compile a kernel? > > You have to rebuild those drivers that have been obtained outside > the "standard" kernel source tree. This applies to all types of > drivers, not only video drivers, for example: > > ati-drivers (video) > nvidia-drivers (video) > ipw2100 (wireless) > ivtv (pvr card) > > > This is is independent from modular X. better yet - get a habbit of using "module-rebuild" every time after you run "genkernel" ;) References: sys-kernel/module-rebuild sys-kernel/genkernel -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpT11goMQ9zr.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] USB weirdness
Is it my problem or is it a generic problem: My install of Gentoo (2006.0 profile with latest versions of gentoo-kernel etc.) doesn't recognize events happening on USB bus. i.e.: in order to use my multicard reader it has to be plugged in upon boot - otherwise it's not recognized. Furthermore - if I unplug it and plug it back in - can't get to device at all. I checked to have coldplug and hotplug to be activated/deactivated on boot etc. and all combination I've tried didn't help. I also tried to enable USB debugging checking if there is any data comming from USB and it seems like nothing is comming in. Same CardReader works fine with Offtopic OS just fine it seems. Actually same happened to my PDA (Sony Clie) - after I unplug cardreader - Gentoo wouldn't recognize my PDA being plugged in on same USB. At some point (I think it was before switching to 2.6 kernel) it all worked just fine. In case if this is of any relevance - my MB is Tyan Tiger MP 2460, my card reader is Lacie 6-in-1. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpxe4LSbv2J0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: QT 4
On Thursday 16 March 2006 15:03, James wrote: > Dmitry S. Makovey athabascau.ca> writes: > > since packages you use (I assume KDE etc.) are not using qt4 > > (i.e. require specifically qt3 branch) portage doesn't find any > > reasons to bump version of qt. AFAIR Qt is a slotted package and > > you can safely go ahead and do > > emerge =x11-libs/qt-4.1.1 > > but you packages wouldn't use it. > > Ok this kinda makes sense. But what exactly is a 'slotted package', > how do I determine when a packages is slotted, and where do I read > more about 'slotted'? I see this term used ofen, but, really have > no clue exactly what slotted means or if it has various meanings > based on the context of it's (verbiage) usage. in /usr/portage/x11-libs/qt/qt-4.1.1.ebuild check the line SLOT="4" and compare it to /usr/portage/x11-libs/qt/qt-3.3.5.ebuild: SLOT="3" which indicates that those installed in different slots (in basic terms - those could be installed side by side without affecting existing applications unless they explicitly dependant on specific Qt version). there are quite a few "slotted" packages in portage so you might bump into this every now and then (KDE is slotted AFAIR). -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpRm1XWL7WAr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] QT 4
On Thursday 16 March 2006 12:11, James wrote: > Hello, > > Has anyone any experiences with developing software with QT4? > > checking whats available, with 'emerge -pv qt', I see: > x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 > > Nothing else... If I add x11-libs/qt to the package.keywords > file, I get > x11-libs/qt-4.1.1 > > after editing the package.keyword file, If I run emerge -uDp world, > it want to upgrade qt: > Calculating world dependencies ...done! > [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r9 [3.3.4-r8] since packages you use (I assume KDE etc.) are not using qt4 (i.e. require specifically qt3 branch) portage doesn't find any reasons to bump version of qt. AFAIR Qt is a slotted package and you can safely go ahead and do emerge =x11-libs/qt-4.1.1 but you packages wouldn't use it. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpewKocLWeQB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables question
On Friday 20 January 2006 13:49, Trenton Adams wrote: > Under the *nat rule, > > -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58443 -j DNAT --to > 192.168.7.1:443 > > Under the *filter rules. > > -A ADAMS-FW-INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp > --dport 443 -j ACCEPT I tried similar combination as well to no avail. :( -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpplhtQFKxWJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables question
On Friday 20 January 2006 13:41, James wrote: > #for unlimited traffic on the loopback interface > iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > iptables -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT since I've done my "flushing" all my rules are nice and permissive ;) dimon2 ~ # iptables -t filter -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination dimon2 ~ # iptables -t nat -L Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination So I doubt I need specific rules for "lo" or any other device except for NAT rules to redirect my traffic. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgp6S1gU0k90a.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] iptables question
somewhat offtopic, but since I need any help I can get: how do I redirect trafic from outward facing interface (192.168.1.114:80) to loopback device (127.0.0.1:80) ? my most obvious trick: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.114 --dport 80 \ -j DNAT --to 127.0.0.1:80 and echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward didn't help. Machine which is opening connection is hanging there indefinitely... what did I miss? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpGUeQ4bFleF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!
On October 21, 2005 02:30 pm, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: > sorry by the way I put it Jeff I got to angry when All my > services stop working after an ( what should be simple ) update > . Allan ,don't get me wrong - I"m not trying to "pin" you, I just want to point out that computers and software tend to fail, so whenever you're updating/upgrading one or the other you *have to* have backup plan. In most scenarios having production machine means that you *have to* have development machine working in parallel (ideally identical to production machine in all respects) - any changes to production machine should be tried/tested on development machine first. Being sysadmin for about 7 years now I know that things do happen and you have to be ready/prepeared for everything. Another point is to go with the "lowest resistance" path - update only GLSA's and do full-blown upgrades only when you plan them carefully and test'em out on development box. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University http://www.athabascau.ca http://www.makovey.net pgpCIK2Ya9w4X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
On July 18, 2005 12:21 pm, Zac Medico wrote: > mkdir /etc/portage > echo "> /etc/portage/package.mask that would actually produce negative effects on gnumeric so I'd rather do as other post (by Tero) suggests: mask higher version as no package is requiring it anyway. But thanks for stepping in the discussion :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpOcl2U676F3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
On July 18, 2005 11:23 am, Tero Grundström wrote: > > This is because gnumeric REQUIRES =1.10.0... and when you do a > > -uD it will be upgraded. > > > > You should keep using -uNp instead of -uDNp ;) > > I wouldn't throw away -uDNp just because of this. > > On my system there are only two packages that depend on libgsf: > > gnumeric =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.10* > librsvg >=gnome-extra/libgsf-1.6 > > So librsvg can survive with an libgsf version as old as 1.6. > > My solution has been adding these lines to > /etc/portage/package.mask: =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.0 > =gnome-extra/libgsf-1.12.1 I would lean towards abovementioned solution as it is 1) gentoo-way :) 2) is not destructive and if something requires higher version of libgsf it'll complain about masked package and I can deal with it then. Thanks for usefull tip... Live and learn as they say :) -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpUV2E7q0zjk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
On July 18, 2005 09:34 am, Mauro Faccenda wrote: > Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > > For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge > > -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has "jumping" versions. That is > > one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to > > another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? > > This is because gnumeric REQUIRES =1.10.0... and when you do a -uD > it will be upgraded. > > You should keep using -uNp instead of -uDNp ;) looks like it's the case here except that I like my -uDNp as system became bit more stable since I started using "D" and every time I upgrade it picks up everything I need and I didn't have to ask it twice :) Oh well, maybe "-D" is a minor drawback and I can survive occasional rebuild of libgsf :) Thanks a lot for the tip.. it all makes sense now. At least I know now what's going on. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpuB0LXueUyR.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] libgsf weirdness...
For past couple of weeks as I was doing emerge --sync and emerge -uDNp I've noticed that libgsf has "jumping" versions. That is one week it's 1.12.0 another 1.10.0 and it swings from one to another. Does anybody know what might trigger this behavior? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgptfO9Lzdvth.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev & recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
For archiving purposes: I've finally fixed my machine up with as follows: 1. chosen kernel was 2.6.12-r5 as it fixes ugly bug with iptables which takes ages for applications to load. 2. configured grub without using initrd title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda11 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose After doing all that system became usable again and boots with no glitch. Thanks everybody for help. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpxLnnGjhmkH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev & recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On July 13, 2005 03:11 pm, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote: > > Not quite, its an initramfs. Slightly different rules apply for > > initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the "initrd" line > > from grub if you want to eliminate it. > > So if I understand correctly something like: > > title Gentoo linux (update) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11 > init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose finally I've got to optimum (in my opinion) combination: title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 real_root=/dev/hda11 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose But I've got new problem - for some reason KDE (3.4.1) now hangs after login doing "initialize peripherals" or something like that... and it happens only when I switch to 2.6.12, weird... anybody seen symptoms like that? First time since I've switched to 2.6.x kernels I've got so many issues with simple kernel upgrade, is there something going on I should be aware of? -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpkQ2ZRdln06.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev & recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote: > Not quite, its an initramfs. Slightly different rules apply for > initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the "initrd" line > from grub if you want to eliminate it. So if I understand correctly something like: title Gentoo linux (update) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose should produce desired results (i.e. bootable system)? If yes - I've got quite a few error messages about missing symbols in kernel modules on boot :( But I've tries so many combinations already that it could've been attributed to other changes I've made. So I'll try it again and come back if problem persists (or if you'll tell me my assumptions are wrong). -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpbWx32LOIKz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev & recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
On July 13, 2005 11:43 am, A. Khattri wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: > > I recently updated portage tree & kernel and using usual > > > > genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all > > Have you tried building a kernel manually (i.e. without using > genkernel)? Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags). > > > -- > Aj. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgp0EZXwjw5gs.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] udev & recent genkernel + gentoo-sources
I recently updated portage tree & kernel and using usual genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all produced unbootable system :( Symptoms point most probably to udev being used by default etc. Here's what I have in grub.conf: title Gentoo linux (updated) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n I've tried to follow those: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ But it doesn't look like it applies to my case or maybe I jumped too far ahead and udev is not fully supported yet? Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't think it's exact output): -install: applet not found /init: 41: ln: not found /init: 45: cat: not found ... >> Loading modules /init: 172: touch: not found /init: 172: cat: not found /init: 172: sed: not found ... >> Activating udev /init: 178: mkdir: not found /sbin/udevstart: not found -=*something about not being able to mount root partition*=- (boot):: -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpvghHL0ZQXU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] (Was:KDE 3.4.1 released) Removing arts
On June 2, 2005 01:04 pm, Andreas Karlsson wrote: > I don╢t want to start a flamewar here but I don╢t see the reason > why KDE insists on using arts. Why not just route all sounds > through alsa? Or has it to do with some cards limitations for > harwaremixing? because there are more platforms than just linux and not all the platforms have ALSA. There are more reasons than that but this is the most obvious. Arts was single gateway to whatever soundsystem your OS provides for entire KDE in contrast to each application being "smart enough" to recognize what and how to use with each OS. -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgppOSCQpFWrL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub prblems...
On May 25, 2005 06:36 pm, James Hiscock wrote: > > After recent update of the system my GRUB became partially > > broken. Namely: "default saved"/"savedefault" statements stopped > > working. Is it me or it's a common problem and how do I fix it. I > > attach my grub.conf for those who might be interested... > > Once you've managed to boot your system, run "grub-set-default". > It'll create /boot/grub/default, and then the savedefault stuff > will work properly. > > ...at least, that's what fixed it for me... Hmm. I ran grub-set-default and is still complains... maybe something in my config is wrong? Would you care to share your config? > > Seems to apply to sys-boot/grub-0.96-r1... -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 pgpn3hFy5zy6n.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] grub prblems...
After recent update of the system my GRUB became partially broken. Namely: "default saved"/"savedefault" statements stopped working. Is it me or it's a common problem and how do I fix it. I attach my grub.conf for those who might be interested... -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 timeout 30 default saved fallback 1 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Gentoo linux root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r6 savedefault fallback title Gentoo linux (previous) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc vga=0F01 initrd /initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r5 savedefault fallback title Gentoo linux (resume) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.7-gentoo-r11 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc vga=0x317 splash=verbose resume=/dev/hda10 initrd /initrd-2.6.7-gentoo-r11 savedefault fallback title Gentoo linux (generic) root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.7-gentoo-r11.generic root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc vga=0x317 splash=verbose initrd /initrd-2.6.7-gentoo-r11.generic savedefault fallback pgpYgXC8ucS3U.pgp Description: PGP signature