Re: [gentoo-user] Re: encrypted email (gentoo-windows)

[Steven Susbauer]

On 3/27/11 5:00 AM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote:
> In linux.gentoo.user, James wrote:
>>
>> What I would really like is to be able to exchange encrypted mail
>> with any MS user
> 
> What, you've never received an encrypted email from a windows user 
> before? If you think about it, surely you have...
> 
> I know ms is pretty bad about standards and interoperability, but 
> pgp or gpg encrypted mail is relatively common on win, *nix, and 
> os x. Pretty sure the problem you're trying to solve doesn't exist.
> 

"Outlook" uses S/MIME rather than PGP. If this user is used to being
part of a normal Windows domain infrastructure with PKI and they haven't
set up their system properly then it would appear that they cannot
exchange encrypted mail with an MS user.



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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel linux-2.6.27-gentoo-r7 won't load network!

[Steven Susbauer]

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2009 02:56:28 schrieb Denis:
>> I have Intel network hardware that
>> runs on the E1000 driver
> 
> Did you try e1000e?
> 
> Bye...
> 
>   Dirk

e1000e had been disabled in 2.6.27 versions, was it put back in by -r7?

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server update: Keyboard and mouse dead

[Steven Susbauer]

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> BTW, is evdev usable already? Some time ago I have tried it, but have not 
> found (or didn't understand) alternatives for 
> 
> Option "Sensitivity" "0.25"
> 
> for mouse, and
> 
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us,ru(winkeys)"
> Option  "XkbOptions""grp:menu_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
> 
> for keyboard. The only way to make x11 work properly was to unmerge evdev at 
> all and use "old way" approach.
> 
I believe you have to continue to use "the old way" for specifying
special options.

One thing that has been an issue recently is Xorg by default marking
AllowEmptyInput as true, which leaves this gem in the Xorg log:

(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd' or 'mouse' will
be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0

If you do not have evdev and this is enabled, your mouse and keyboard
are disabled. Adding the following to the ServerLayout section should
fix this:
Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false"

To the OP, glad your Xorg is working now. In the future I suggest you
look for and post relevant sections of your Xorg log file, as that is
most likely where the issue will be viewable.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: provided kernel

[Steven Susbauer]

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Simon wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>   long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually.  I had
>> added the
>> line "sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24" (without quotes) to the file
>> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided.  There is no kernel in
>> /var/lib/portage/world...  This may be related to the fact i recently
>> moved my
>> make.profile to point to 2008 instead of 2007...
> nvidia-drivers doesn't depend on gentoo-sources, but on
> virtual/linux-sources.  That means you have to emerge either
> gentoo-sources or vanilla-sources.  And I don't think you should be
> messing with /etc/portage/profile/package.provided that way :P  Just
> emerge vanilla-sources.

You don't need to emerge vanilla-sources. Also, that is exactly the use
of /etc/portage/profile/package.provided

With a little bit of testing, I was unable to get vanilla-sources of any
version to work with package.provided, but it works fine if actually
installed.

Adding sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.24 to your package.provided should
prevent it from trying to grab new ones. It did for me. :) I blame the
virtuals file.

   -Steve



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@

[Steven Susbauer]

Dale wrote:
> If you have no ideas on how to disable, what are some free email
> servers that allow pop access?
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> 
I use the Webmail extension for Thunderbird (I don't know if it works in
Seamonkey), it supports quite a few webmail interfaces and lets Mozilla
talk to them with pop. It is mostly stable, sometimes it gives me a few
issues, but I manage my own spam settings (I use it with Hotmail).

http://webmail.mozdev.org/

There are two pieces: The main webmail extension and the extension for
the specific service you're using.

I don't know if it will make a difference with Gmail, but it may be
possible to tell it to download all messages. Otherwise you can use some
other free email account.

   -Steve



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Re: [gentoo-user] Wiki Gentoo article "info" question

[Steven Susbauer]

Dale wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>> The Wiki page on Qemu says 
>>
>>"To test if kqemu is correctly installed, run info kqemu. If
>> it returns kqemu support: enabled for user and kernel code,
>> your installation is correct."
>>
>> On my installation 'info kqemu' runs the Gnu info utility,
>> which doesn't seem to know anything about kqemu.  What "info"
>> program is the Wiki talking about, and where does one get it?
>>
>>   
> 
> I would assume you are talking about something like a man page.  Usually
> you get those by installing the package.  Example, if I wanted the man
> page for apache, I would need to install apache to get it.  Of course,
> you can also google for it if you are just curious.
> 
> It sounds like the package is not installed if I understand this correctly.
> 
> Dale
> 
In this case he is not trying to view the info page, but is ending up
with that result.

According to a quick Google search, you are supposed to run "info kqemu"
inside of the qemu window, see:
http://en.opensuse.org/Qemu_with_kqemu_kernel_module_support#Verifying_kqemu_acceleration

   -Steve



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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

[Steven Susbauer]

Stroller wrote:
> It's a bug because it annoys people. It only tends to annoy me when the
> sender has set the text to a size which is unreadable or intrusive on my
> monitor (a size which is undoubtedly perfect on the sender's 800x600
> monitor), but it appears to annoy other people more. That there's scope
> for us to have this discussion demonstrates that it's simply better to
> post plain-text to mailing lists. Mailers should default to plain text
> unless the user explicitly chooses otherwise.
> 
> Stroller.
> 
Mailers should also default to useful column sizes, which seem to have
failed in the case of your last message.

Many mailers do default to plain text, as it is all they handle, it is
essentially for them that we use plain text vs html anyway, along with
other reasons that are demonstrated at
http://www.expita.com/nomime.html. On this list I am sure the reasons
are more for text readers and the digests vs Microsoft vulnerabilities.

Until a mailer can sense that is it subscribed to a mailing list, they
will never default to plain text. Adding pretty markup and pictures or
colors is considered an important feature to many people.

I agree that it wouldn't hurt to put a link to a mailing list guide, or
a few pointers in the welcome post, or on the mailing list webpage. If
anything, to prevent users from getting as bent out of shape. As for the
 replies they get, they generally aren't rude.

I would not say it's a piece of Gentoo "enculturation", as it is similar
on most mailing lists.

 -Steve



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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

[Steven Susbauer]

Willie Wong wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 09:16:05PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
>> This is my two cents.  Since when someone comes here and posts a html
>> message they get told not to use html anyway, why not let them know
>> beforehand that html is not the "norm" on this list?  I don't think it
>> would hurt to put that on the website where the mailing lists subscribe
>> info is and also in the email that confirms the subscription.  I
>> wouldn't mind seeing that part in bold or something in the email to make
>> sure it is seen.  I suspect this would solve a lot of problems in the
>> long run.
> 
> Uh... so how will you put something in "bold" in an e-mail without
> HTML? And if you do use HTML, is it not hypocritical to tell the
> users, in bold nontheless, that they should not? 
> 
> ;p
> 
> W
Some mail readers convert *asterisks* as bold statements. I believe it
is the generally accepted way to make a section stand out when dealing
with plain text.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Why do these packages depend on corefonts?

[Steven Susbauer]

Erik Hahn wrote:

Why the hell do these packages depend on corefonts?:

app-emulation/wine-1.1.6
net-www/netscape-flash-10_rc20080915
x11-misc/slim-1.3.1

It somehow makes sense with wine, maybe even - remotely - with flash.
But why, why should *slim* need Windows fonts to work?


According to the slim webpage, it only needs freetype (along with
libjpeg, libpng, and X11).

It appears to be explained in the bug about it though:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215661
"the default theme uses verdana which is provided by corefonts"

   -Steve

Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

[Steven Susbauer]

Sadly, I did not read this until these were all unmerged, and wget is
truly broken.

Happily, I do run with buildpkg on all the time, but an this the first time 
I've

really needed them.  Getting back to a running system was pretty easy.

However, this does not really solve the problem.  What's a safe way to
do this emerge?

++ kevin


I mention the steps in the bug report:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907#c70

You may also choose to mask the affected packages, or remove kerberos
support entirely.

Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

[Steven Susbauer]

Eray Aslan wrote:

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:09:00PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

I have unmerged all the files involved in the blockage

allan Mail # emerge --ask --unmerge e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-libs ss 
com_err


>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

--- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs-libs' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'ss' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'com_err' to unmerge.

>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge

But when I do an emerge world I still get the blockage
(I previously tried emerge -1 e2fsprogs, which brought in
e2fsprogs-libs, but still gave the blockage shown below).


Careful with the unmerges.  Check the following for the gory details and
possible work arounds:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244511

Such a mess.


Yes it is. I was extremely tempted to post a thread about this issue
last night that explained the issue and the fix, as there weren't any
posts about it yet but they were sure to come as people broke wget. It
slipped my mind though. :-\

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!

[Steven Susbauer]

deface wrote:

   I am reaching out to the community in search of someone, or someone
who may know someone at either TEL-X (http://www.telx.com)
or 56Marietta (http://www.56marietta.com). I'm sure everyone on this ML
is aware that wiki is down. It may not concern some of you, as
it is not an official documentation site; but for the rest of us, it is
a very helpful resource. You can read the current status of the wiki as
thrasher7 (Mike Valstar - mikevalstar@gmail.com) blogs it. Our
options are stated, but we hope to find another through
this e-mail. If anyone has any sort of contact with anyone at either of
these locations, please let me or Mike know.

Thanks in advance,

deface


The Gentoo-Wiki and Gentoo-Portage pages are unofficial, but it would be
very nice if Gentoo was able to provide its own wiki service (and
Gentoo-Portage-like thing, packages.gentoo.org is nowhere near as
useful), possibly working with Mike on an official basis. I've always
been curious why the Foundation is passing up a great opporitunity to
have a lot of good, community based documentation especially for
projects and setups that Gentoo itself does not provide documentation
for, as well as an easy frontend for reading all about different ebuilds.

I am unfortunately unable to help with this predicament though plan on
putting in a donation once the sites are up. It does appear he was able
to get in touch with TelX so hopefully everything gets up and running
quickly.

 -Steve

Re: [gentoo-user] Protecting my server against an individual

[Steven Susbauer]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Ryan Tandy wrote:

> Lord Sauron wrote:
> > If you can, what I'd do is try and get the guy's MAC Address or
> > something and then totally block that off.  That's send him away right
> > quickly.  I don't know enough to know if that'd be totally possible,
> > but if the guy isn't terribly intelligent, that'll send him packing.
>
> net-analyzer/macchanger ;)
>

What's this? Portage on Windows?
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Re: [gentoo-user] VIDEO_CARDS="vmware" for modular xorg

[Steven Susbauer]

On Sun, 2 Jul 2006, Grant wrote:

> Does anyone know what the vmware VIDEO_CARD option is for under the
> new modular xorg?
>
> - Grant
>

I would think it compiles the X driver for the vmware console, so you're
not stuck with something like vesa.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2GB of RAM

[Steven Susbauer]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Ralph Slooten wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi list,
>
> Today I expended my RAM to 2GB (DDR) to my workstation, as apposed to
> the initial 1GB I had. The RAm added is identical to the initial RAM.
> Without changing the kernel (2.6.16.x) I still get 1GB available, and
> digging into the kernel I found the section regarding the High Memory
> Support and Memory split.
>
> I did a bit of googeling, the first page I found (old) said to turn on
> High Memory Support, however a more recent page
> (http://linux-vserver.org/Step-by-Step+Guide+2.6) states to leave it off
> and just change the split to 2/2 to make full use of 2GB of RAM.
>
> I tried both ways, but either way I get poor 3D performance from UT2004
> when I have this extra memory in.
>
> Now I'm confused ;-) It's (kernel's) default is "3G/1G user/kernel
> split" but there seems to be no documentation supplied with my kernel
> (2.6.16.5).
>
> Do any of you have experience with > 1GB of RAM, and efficiently getting
> this to work _well_ on your systems? What ideal settings should I use in
> my kernel? Are there any downsides to > 1GB?
>
> With "3G/1G user/kernel split" selected, and "High Memory Support (off)"
> I get 1GB despite 2GB in the motherboard, even when lilo boots with
> append="mem=2048M". If I enable the 2/2 option instead I get 2G of RAM.
> I tested the 2GB with 2x virtual machines (vmware) running each with
> 512MB ram (iE 1GB in use for vmware) and the system performed still
> exceptionally well, however UT2004 still sucks when playing (sluggish
> and screen jolts from time to time like I have too little RAM).
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Ralph
>

What graphics card are you using? Sluggish and screen jolts sound possibly
like your graphics are too high for the card. Generally too little ram
will result in your HD doing a lot of work during gameplay.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load

[Steven Susbauer]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:

> I was wondering what gentoo-users think and practice about kernel
> modules.  Do most compile them in the kernel or load them at boot-up.
>
> Note that I'm _NOT_ talking about those modules that have to be compiled
> in such as for your filesystem. This is about the other ones.
>
> I generally like to load them at boot-up.  One reason is that I have
> heard that for suspend or hibernate to work, some modules have to be
> unloaded.
>
> On the other hand, compiling them in results in faster boot times.
>
> So, what do gentoo-users think?
>
> Tony
>


I have never used any modules that I didn't have to. At this point, I use
none. They are all compiled into the kernel, because I don't have a point
to unloading or loading. The only point for modules in any of my
experience is if you're often changing hardware (possibly a laptop with a
base station... or something?)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

[Steven Susbauer]

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Anno v. Heimburg wrote:

> Shawn Haggett wrote:
>
> > Mohammed Hagag wrote:
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
> >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> > Spot the difference?
>
> Yeah, but the Listserv does set Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>
> Anno.
>
>

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown

> Yeah, but the Listserv does set Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH authentication attempts - serious issue

[Steven Susbauer]

On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Oliver Schmidt wrote:

> > Hi,
> >
> >today when I was checking the server log I got many external
> > attempts to connect to my sshd service:
> >
> > ...
> > Jun  5 05:09:45 embedded sshd[4740]: Invalid user barbara from x.y.w.z
> > Jun  5 05:09:46 embedded sshd[4742]: Invalid user barb from x.y.w.z
> > Jun  5 05:09:48 embedded sshd[4744]: Invalid user barbie from x.y.w.z
> > Jun  5 05:09:50 embedded sshd[4746]: Invalid user barbra from x.y.w.z
> > Jun  5 05:09:51 embedded sshd[4748]: Invalid user barman from x.y.w.z
> > Jun  5 05:09:53 embedded sshd[4750]: Invalid user barney from x.y.w.z
> > ...
> >
> > this seems to be a brute force attack, but one thing that worried me
> > is why sshd didn't disconnect the remote host after 3 unsuccessful
> > attemps? If we see in the log, there are many attemps with time
> > interval between attemps of 2 or 3 seconds meaning that the sshd
> > didn't disconnect the remote host after 3 attempts.
> >  So, first, Am I thinking correct about the sshd attempts?
> >  Second, how can I setup sshd or the entire system to permit just 2 or
> > 3 attempts of authentication? I was checking the /etc/login.defs file
> > and I see the following option:
> >
>
> Try use Denyhosts ... no problem with bruteforce attacks anymore. Denyhosts
> add the IP of the attacker to the /etc/hosts.deny file.
> Install it with:
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge denyhosts
> and add to your /etc/crontab
> */10 * * * * root python /usr/bin/denyhosts -c /etc/denyhosts.conf
>
> Use it now for more then a year... its perfect to block bruteforce attacks.
>
> cheers
> Oli
>
>
>

Agreed, DenyHosts works great, even sends me an email when it adds an
address. DenyHosts can also be configured to watch ftp server logs.

You don't need to run it from a cron script (though you certainly can),
there is an init script created on install that works just fine too.
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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login

[Steven Susbauer]

On Wed, 31 May 2006, William Meertens wrote:

> > Take a look at the following page, it will tell you what you need to do.
> >
> > http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2006/03/19/the_shadow_and_pam_login_conflict
>
> This explains it all, only I'm still curious why even with version 6.0 I'm 
> still getting both installed just fine. Hardly look at the messages since 
> Gentoo installs while I'm dreaming. Just as nice without complaining as my 
> dreams are.
>
> Only when doing an update later it starts to complain. Since Gentoo version 
> 5.0 I'm having this on all systems. Regardless the choice of installation.
>
> All my best,
> William.
>
> >
> > On Thursday, 1 June 2006 2:30, JimD wrote:
> > > I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world:
> > >
> > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> > >
> > > Calculating world dependencies  . ... done!
> > >
> > > [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2)
> > >
> > > Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow?  I thought that was part of system?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > --
> > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > > There's no place like 127.0.0.1
> > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > > JimD
> > > Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol
> >
>
>
>

Do you have pam in your use flags? If so, it would make shadow do the job
of pam-login, thus creating the problem. If not, then they are both
welcome to be there.
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Re: [gentoo-user] New adresses

[Steven Susbauer]

On Tue, 30 May 2006, Bertrand Jacquin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My new IM (Jabber) adress is : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My new email is : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Beber
>

BCC is your friend!
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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 4.1.1 Problems

[Steven Susbauer]

No problem, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
you'll recieve them no longer.

You are aware that you had to sign up in the first place though... right?

On Mon, 29 May 2006, John Laremore wrote:

>
> quit f'in email bombing me you arse holes.
>
> 
> From:  Bo ?rsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To:  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> To:  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject:  Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 4.1.1 Problems
> Date:  Mon, 29 May 2006 00:10:25 +0200
> MIME-Version:  1.0
> Received:  from robin.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102]) by
> bay0-mc2-f10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft
> SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 28 May 2006 15:14:51 -0700
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> >Sunday 28 May 2006 21:48 skrev Hemmann, Volker Armin:
> > > > This change could be a
> > > > bugfix. By making your own digest you don't get this
> bugfix...
> > >
> > > more probably - the mirror corrupted the file. Or someone
> replaced it with
> > > a hacked package.
> >
> >While that is possible I'm not really sure why you consider it
> more likely.
> >
> >At least in my case this bug showed when I upgraded from
> perl-cleaner-1.03 to
> >perl-cleaner-1.03-r1. Those two ebuilds are identical and use the
> same tar
> >file as source. This means that when I originally (a couple of
> weeks ago)
> >installed 1.03 the digest fitted the other, smaller tar file,
> which means
> >that devs has approved both versions of that tar file). It did
> install
> >successfully (and seemed to work) so it couldn't be too corrupted.
> >
> >So while it is possible that the devs approved a file that
> shouldn't have been
> >approved, I prefer to think that upstream just did something
> stupid by
> >upgrading the package without a revision bump.. :)
> >
> >--
> >Bo Andresen
>
> ><< attach3 >>
>
>
> 
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[gentoo-user] /var/tmp, no longer symlink to /tmp?

[Steven Susbauer]

Did I at some point screw up my system, or is /var/tmp no longer a link to
/tmp by default anymore? I know that it used to, as I even thought it was
odd that they didn't just use /tmp directly.

I've relinked, and now I'm just curious if there was a real reason for
this not to have been there anymore.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

[Steven Susbauer]

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Sat, 27 May 2006 08:16:02 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>
> > > but eix-sync is still longer than esync (8 to 5) ;)
> >
> > Nah, it's 5 to 5, so eix-sync is NOT longer than esync...
>
> I really think you guys should read this page :)
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml
>
>
>

Long story short, sudo echo "emerge --sync 1>/dev/null 2>&1" >
/etc/cron.daily/portsync, sudo chmod 755 /etc/cron.daily/portsync

Assuming you're on vixie-cron at least.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1: emerge -e world required?

[Steven Susbauer]

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Sat, 27 May 2006 07:54:44 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>
> > > and KDE continued to
> > > work.
> >
> > Not here.
>
> I've had a few strange errors since posting that. Like one from Konqueror
> when trying to load a page, which then loaded perfectly on the next try.
>
> > > Maybe i've not run one of the affected programs.
> >
> >  > Re-emerging
> > > *everything* to fix a KDE problem seems like knee-jerk overkill.
> >
> > Well, but that's what's suggested.
>
> I think I'll pass on that one. Rebuilding all of KDE will take long
> enough, but it seems prudent, I'm certainly not going to spend 16+ hours
> rebuilding OOo if I don't need to.
>
> > Anyway, it's plain wrong that NOTHING has to be done after upgrading
> > to gcc 4.1.1. Maybe an "emerge -e world" is required. And an "emerge
> > -e world" is *very* *much* from doing nothing...
>
> Absolutely. The GWN posting was clearly optimistic :(
>
>

Why would an emerge -e world be required? It is not required to rebuild
every package using the new gcc. They will slowly be rebuilt when they are
upgraded. I have done nothing since upgrading and had not one issue. Why
would I, it doesn't even make sense? They are binaries, after all.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Google Picasa for Linux!

[Steven Susbauer]

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Kristian Poul Herkild wrote:
>
> >
> > It works now, but not in the beginning.
>
> Okay.
>
> > When the first news arrived, I couldn't get access to it unless through
> > a translated page. You can see the same problems being discussed at OSN.
> > The reason can be anything, but fact is, we couldn't get access in the
> > beginning.
>
> Well, fact is, that we can now get access to the page. And
> I wonder, why JimD posted, after it's been discovered that
> this "fact" is outdated (the post from Raymond Lewis and
> the replies have been sent before JimD sent his reply).
>
> Alexander Skwar
>

Probably something with DNS...
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

[Steven Susbauer]

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

> On Saturday 27 May 2006 06:04, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> > I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing.  I plan to upgrade to
> > it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first.  No problem,
> > but I think I will then have to recompile all non-kde but related apps,
> > such a k3b, that were compiled against the old libraries.  Right?
>
> em, why do you think you'll have to unmerge 3.4?
> They can coexist very nicely.
>

Waste of space? Why keep something around you're not using?
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Re: [gentoo-user] What is causing x11-terms/xterm to be dragged in?

[Steven Susbauer]

On Fri, 26 May 2006, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:

> Steven Susbauer wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 26 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> > >I should have included that in my original email, of course:
> > >
> > >$ grep USE  /etc/make.conf | grep -v "^#"
> > >USE="berkdb innodb"
> > >
> > >I have no /usr/portage/package.use
> > >
> > >$ grep USE  /etc/make.profile/make.defaults
> > >USE="alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran
> > >foomaticdb
> > >gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad
> > >mikmod
> > >motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell
> > >truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv"
> > >
> > >AHA!
> > >
> > >but the man page for emerge says not to edit
> > >/etc/make.profile/make.defaults.
> > >How do I get X out of there? If in fact that's the cause of my problem?
> > >
> > >Michael
> > >
> >
> >
> > Everything you put in /etc/make.conf should be based on the
> > make.defaults, or possible things you want enabled.
> > If X is in make.defaults, add -X to make.conf to disable it. You should
> > probably add "-X -opengl -gnome -gtk -gtk2 -kde -qt" to /etc/make.conf at
> > least, that should hopefully fix your issues.
> >
> > -Steven
> Curious that "X" should be in make.defaults.  Does that mean that the devs
> think that everyone wants X loaded?
>
> Tony
>

I think the basic default use flags are meant to be for a "general
purpose" system, which would usually include X. If you are lazy and don't
want to change your use flags, chances are you won't have to, at least not
very much, to have all of your programs work. If you're able to use the
system without X installed, it's most likely assumed you can add -X to
make.conf.
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Re: [gentoo-user] What is causing x11-terms/xterm to be dragged in?

[Steven Susbauer]

On Fri, 26 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I should have included that in my original email, of course:
>
> $ grep USE  /etc/make.conf | grep -v "^#"
> USE="berkdb innodb"
>
> I have no /usr/portage/package.use
>
> $ grep USE  /etc/make.profile/make.defaults
> USE="alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran foomaticdb
> gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod
> motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell
> truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv"
>
> AHA!
>
> but the man page for emerge says not to edit /etc/make.profile/make.defaults.
> How do I get X out of there? If in fact that's the cause of my problem?
>
> Michael
>

Everything you put in /etc/make.conf should be based on the
make.defaults, or possible things you want enabled.
If X is in make.defaults, add -X to make.conf to disable it. You should
probably add "-X -opengl -gnome -gtk -gtk2 -kde -qt" to /etc/make.conf at
least, that should hopefully fix your issues.

-Steven
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Re: [gentoo-user] What is causing x11-terms/xterm to be dragged in?

[Steven Susbauer]

On Fri, 26 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to remove any dependencies on x11 from my headless server. Thanks
> to
> someone's help last week, I learned how to configure libdb to not use java,
> which had dragged in the java IDE which dragged in x11.
>
> That worked wonderfully, and I removed x11 and thought I was done.
>
> As a sanity check, I checked to see what emerge world would do and was
> surprised:
>
>  # emerge -Duv --pretend --tree world
>
>   [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-207  -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype -unicode
>   0  kB
>   [nomerge  ]  sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6
>   [nomerge  ]   app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3
>   [ebuild  N]virtual/x11-6.8  0 kB
>   [ebuild  N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts
>   -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers +ipv6
>   -minimal
>   -mmx +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts
>   (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB
>   [ebuild  N]  x11-base/opengl-update-3.0.0  0 kB
>   [ebuild  N]  x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3  0 kB
>
> How can I find out what is requiring x11-terms/xterm-207?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>


What are your use flags from /etc/make.conf and /usr/portage/package.use?
You have opengl as an enabled flag, for example, and that would pull in
xorg if something reacts to it (as libsdl does on my system).
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Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 \w xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7 problem

[Steven Susbauer]

On Sat, 27 May 2006, Alexander Kirillov wrote:

> > > > > >recently my sister descovered a strange and serious bug with
> > > > > >mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 in combination with xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7. After
> > > > > >visiting
> > > > > >http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=36939781
> > > > > >xorg shuts down immediatly direct access to the box via the terminal
> > > > > >is
> > > > > >impossible. logging in remotley via ssh still works ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >can anyone with the above combination verify this ?
> > > > >
> > > > >Yep. Killed my X too. I have these same versions of xorg and firefox.
> > > > >Fortunately I got a kdm login prompt again. The only relevant messages
> > > > >I could find in the logs:
> > > > >
> > > > ># cat /var/log/messages
> > > > >...
> > > > >May 26 01:10:39 baikal kdm[11220]: X server for display :0 terminated
> > > > >unexpectedly
> > > > >...
> > > > >
> > > > ># cat /var/log/kdm.log
> > > > >...
> > > > >*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x096128c0
> > > > >***
> > > > >...
> > > > >
> > > > >You probably should file a bug.
> > > > >Please post to the list if you have any new info on the subject.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I've now filed a bug:
> > > >http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134373
> > > >
> > > >If you are experiencing the same behavour, please post a comment on that
> > > >bug including 'emerge --info', use-flag combinations for xorg-x11 and
> > > >firefox and relevant log entries.
> > >
> > >I've just tried to open the link above with flash plugin disabled
> > >and the page is gone:
> > >
> > >Invalid Friend ID.
> > >This user has either cancelled their membership, or their account has been
> > >deleted.
> >
> >
> > That's what i feared. With that page gone (this wasn't the page of my
> > sister) it might be nearly impossible to reproduce this bug.
>
> Shoot. That's a pity.
> I still think there's a problem with either flash or sound.
> Next time then.
> Sasha
>
>

Does the Google cached page do the same thing? Hurry up and get it, I
don't know how long google's gonna have it up ;)


http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:PlfW7wO2VaEJ:profile.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser.viewprofile%26friendid%3D36939781+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a

My guess is it has something to do with the flash mp3 player on their page
(I see nothing else out of the ordinary). It comes from
http://www.myspacegeeks.com/myspace-generators/flash-mp3-player/ - that
page may/should kill everything as well if that was the problem.

I had no problems with anything freezing up on Windows, but firefox would
no longer type after having that window open for a few moments. It could
have been something else I did, but the behavior stopped after I closed
the profile.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

[Steven Susbauer]

>
> > he copied the config from his old kernel, it
> > is not using the default options and thus *should* work just fine.
>
> Yeah, I missed that line. You're right. But he didn't installed the
> new kernel, and alsa-driver, ndiswrapper, nvidia drivers and a lot of
> other stuff claim a new compile after a kernel upgrade, I doubt it
> would be as clean as the OP stated. But yeah, it may happen.
>

alsa could easily be built into the kernel, I know when I install a new
kernel it is as easy as running make and make install, and re-emerging the
nvidia-kernel if I'm using it. AFAIK this person didn't say anything about
alsa, nvidia, ndiswrapper, etc. etc. A kernel compile compile and
install is precisely as easy as the OP stated. make && make install &&
(make modules_install) is all it takes, if you're pointing at
/boot/vmlinuz.
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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH/SSH2 hosed, partially fixed, some rubble remains

[Steven Susbauer]

On Thu, 25 May 2006, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> /etc/init.d/sshd
> and /etc/init.d/sshd2
>
> I can start and stop sshd, but not sshd2, which complains it's not
> configured.  File
> timestamps indicate that sshd2 stuff has not changed since some time in
> 2004.
> Moreover, "equery belongs" cannot locate any package that owns the sshd2
> files.
> The sshd files belong to  net-misc/openssh-4.3_p2-r1.
>
> STILL TROUBLING:
> why did LDAP get turned on?  Whodunnit?
> why do I have orphaned sshd2 things?
>

It's odd that you would have anything saying sshd2 anyway, openssh is all
that is needed to use the SSH1/2 protocol, not seperate daemons, though
I'm not sure how it might have been in 2004...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow

[Steven Susbauer]

On Thu, 25 May 2006, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

> > I also get the bonehead award: there was a new kernel sitting on my
> > hard drive and just yesterday I found and installed it.  It was
> > remarkably easy to install!  I loaded the configuration file from my
> > old kernel and then just make && make install and it worked!  I didn't
> > even have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst!  Dang...  I got done and said
> > "that was easy."  I think I'm really getting the hang of all this!
>
> You have run an "emerge -u world" and it got the kernel sources, you
> have no special needs and so the default configuration fit your need,
> compiling kernels is EASY, making them work, that's a hard one.
>
> You sincerely must be booting from your old kernel and your
> /usr/src/linux link must be pointing at your old sources, else you
> would have some problems and probably would have to recompile,
> reconfigure some stuff, because after make and all, you should copy
> the image to /boot and, if necessary, change the grub.conf (menu.lst)
> to point at the right file.
>
> See the Kernel upgrade guide at Gentoo.org for more info.

I don't know what the default grub.conf is for the Gentoo installer, but
if it points to /boot/vmlinuz then make install is sufficient to install
the new, working kernel... it rewrites symlinks to the new kernel. BTW,
he copied the config from his old kernel, it
is not using the default options and thus *should* work just fine.
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Re: AW: [gentoo-user] install gentoo via ssh

[Steven Susbauer]

On Mon, 22 May 2006, patrizius wrote:

> You can do just about anything via ssh. Plus, you don't have to sit there
> and wait while the system is compiling or downloading, since you can just
> minimize the console window and keep on working/surfing/playing.
>
> Is this like what you want to do?
>
> Greetings,
> Patrizius

If you use screen, you don't even have to keep the SSH session connected.
It's on the cd...
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Re: [gentoo-user] install gentoo via ssh

[Steven Susbauer]

On Mon, 22 May 2006, Marco Calviani wrote:

> Hi list,
>   i would like to know if anyone have had experiences in installing
> gentoo on a remote machine using ssh. Is it possible?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> MC
>
>

Boot from the minimal cd. Start ssh by typing /etc/init.d/sshd start, set
a root password with passwd. Make sure your network is up, if it is you're
now able to install over ssh.

-Steven
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[gentoo-user] RE: Portage 2.1-rc1-r2

[Steven Susbauer]

> I don't know where one would post this kind of messages, so here it is.

> I'm using the latest version of portage on a couple of ~x86 boxes and I
> am very impressed. All my cry-babying about portage performance is a thing
> of the past.

> So, thank you, Portage Devs. You've made my Gentoo experience nearly
> 100% enjoyable.

> Jerry McBride

But but the latest portage is Portage 2.1-rc1-r3 ;P
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Re: [gentoo-user] Question on my USE choiche

[Steven Susbauer]

On Sat, 20 May 2006, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:

>
> >However, you'll need kdelibs to be compiled against it if you want to hear
> >sounds in kde (and I mean sounds generated by kde, not sounds from amarok...)
> >
> >
> >
> Not sure what you mean by this.  Should arts be installed before emerging
> kdelibs?
>
> Or something like this:  "USE=arts emerge kdelibs" (which of course pulls in
> arts)?
>
> Tony
>

If you have arts enabled in your use flags, portage will install arts
automatically when kdelibs, or other things that care about the use flag,
is going to be built (or just add it to package.use). It is never a good
idea to use the 'USE="blah" emerge foo' syntax, as it doesn't stick. If
you were to do a kdelibs upgrade, it would ignore arts.
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

[Steven Susbauer]

Harry Putnam writes:

> Do you think this being an athlon64 will have a bad effect on gentoo
> install or will it install as on any other machine and maybe even
> allow me to use the 64bit version if I felt adventurous?

It should install as on any other machine. Install an i586 or i686 build I
would think. I'm not sure if you can use a 64 bit guest OS in a 32 bit
vmware install, that would be worth looking into or at least testing.

> Do you think running gentoo as a main desktop as I have been when it
> owned the machine, doing all mail and most web related stuff like
> keeping a site up or just browsing, running most backup related stuff
> with rsync etc etc will work out in a vmware setting?

Yes, I think that would work out quite well, even if vmware-tools won't
work for you (the only reason I thought to install it was because of a
clock sync issue).

> Considering some rsyncing can be pretty labor intensive or compiling
> something like a kernel or emacs will this just bog down other work
> the athlon may be doing?

It is usually pretty good at sharing, but doing tons of things in the
guest and host OS at once can bog down the resources. The best thing I
could say for that is take a break from the video work when you want to
update world. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

[Steven Susbauer]

On Tue, 16 May 2006, James Ausmus wrote:

> On 16 May 2006 17:56:14 -0500, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > So cutting to the chase here:
> >
> > Do you think this being an athlon64 will have a bad effect on gentoo
> > install or will it install as on any other machine and maybe even
> > allow me to use the 64bit version if I felt adventurous?
> >
> Nope - VMWare doesn't give the guest OS a hardware copy of what the
> host machine is - it does software emulation of the entire computer -
> BIOS, CPU, Video Card, Hard Drive (unless you go for RAW access to a
> specified hard drive), sound, etc etc. IIRC the CPU it emulates is a
> Pentium-III - don't remember how fast...
>
At least in my situation, Gentoo only sees the real cpu (/proc/cpuinfo
shows model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz blah blah). I
have built everything accordingly and used it as a 3.2ghz P4 with no
problems.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

[Steven Susbauer]

On Tue, 16 May 2006, Harry Putnam wrote:

> Using vmware on winxp and I see gentoo is not listed as a supported OS
> like Suse is.
>
> I'm currently running Suse from vmware for that reason.  I did try to
> get gentoo running there sometime ago and don't remember what the
> problems were now.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone here is running gentoo inside vmware on winxp
> and if they might coach me on that.
>
>

I am writing this from Gentoo running in VMware workstation on Windows
Server 2003. It works just fine, just install it like a normal install
except you need to use lspci to find what hardware vmware is showing
Gentoo, and compile accordingly. I have had problems installing the vmware
tools in Gentoo though, they will install but will not run.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anime Music Videos

[Steven Susbauer]

I'm still particular to iMovie, sadly. I've only opened moviemaker once, I 
don't even remember what it looked like. I've heard good things about cinelerra but it looks like all the ebuilds are hard masked until somebody 
fixes the ebuilds. cinelerra-cvs is an unofficial branch, it's only ~x86 so might be worth using.


Some other options in portage are lve (which looks similar to iMovie), 
piave is also an iMovie similar program, there are some other programs in 
portage for DV and AVI editing (I don't think the avi editor is really for 
composing videos).


Hope that helps,
Steven

On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, Ian wrote:


Hey everyone,
What is your favorite video editor of choice for things like anime music
videos?
My friend on Windows has made a few with movie maker (eww!) and I was
wondering what
Linux apps can do a nice job of it? My anime is all stored in avi or mpeg. I
dont have dvds.

Ive looked at Cinellera but I couldn't get it to work, after reading the
tutorial.
Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] progress in emerge --sync

[Steven Susbauer]

'emerge --sync --quiet 1> /dev/null 2>&1' will put nothing in your logs.
If you prefer, just use 'emerge --sync --quiet' and it will say when it's
working but not do the progress or anything else really.

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Beau E. Cox wrote:

> Hi -
>
> I notice that the rsync command generated by emerge --sync contains
> the --progress flag. I run emerge --sync as a cron job ang log the
> output; the progress goo messes up my logs.
>
> I can't find any mention of a 'progress' (or a 'noprogress') flag
> in the emerge man page. Is there a way to get rid of --progress
> that I can't find?
>
> This is picky-picky and really not important, it's just that I
> tend to be that way some times...no big deal...just wondering. :)
>
> --
> Aloha => Beau;
>
>
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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install fails on Locale-gettext

[Steven Susbauer]

Try a revdep-rebuild and see if it wants to build something.

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, daniel wrote:

> I just finished doing a reinstall of my amd64 machine (using x86 though) and
> upon doing a:
>
>   # emerge --update --deep --newuse world
>
> (I'd edited my use flags and done an emerge sync) I got this:
>
>   # emerge --update --deep --newuse world
>   Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>   >>> emerge (1 of 49) dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.05 to /
>   >>> md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.04.ebuild
>   >>> md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.01-r1.ebuild
>   >>> md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.03.ebuild
>   >>> md5 files   ;-) Locale-gettext-1.05.ebuild
>   >>> md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.01-r1
>   >>> md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.03
>   >>> md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.04
>   >>> md5 files   ;-) files/digest-Locale-gettext-1.05
>   >>> md5 src_uri ;-) gettext-1.05.tar.gz
>   >>> Unpacking source...
>   >>> Unpacking gettext-1.05.tar.gz /var/tmp/portage/Locale-gettext-1.05/work
>   >>> Source unpacked.
>* Using ExtUtils::MakeMaker
>   checking for gettext... no
>   checking for gettext in -lintl... no
>   gettext function not found. Please install libintl at Makefile.PL line 18.
>   make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
>
> I tried emerging gettext again, no joy.  rebooting didn't help either.  What
> am I missing?
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Electricsheep (General Question)

[Steven Susbauer]

It takes a lot longer than 8-10 minutes, I don't think their download 
server is very quick, or something like that. Wait a while and it will 
actually start working (and if you have it selected in kscreensaver or 
xscreensaver, you shouldn't need to configure anything).


On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Simon Hogg wrote:


On 1/27/06, Bill Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 20:19 Fri 27 Jan , Ian wrote:
>Hey everyone
>I came across this app and and having issues getting it to work.
>I was told to leave it running so it could do a download. After 8-10
>minutes, nothing came up. Is there any way I can verify what its
>doing? Is this what Im supposed to do?

I played with this a couple of years ago. It is a applet for xscreensaver,
I don't recall the detail of configuring it, but it wasn't too difficult.
But it does chew up alot of bandwidth, and the results were less than
spectacular.  I ended up unmerging it.

Good luck

Bill Roberts



IIRC the program you're trying to remember is xscreensaver-demo

HTH,

Simon
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Re: [gentoo-user] NIC setup? slow transfer speed

[Steven Susbauer]

I've had similar problems quite a bit. After a while I just installed 
pure-ftpd on Gentoo and used smart ftp on Windows. It still took a long 
time but seemed to go much faster than that smb stuff.


On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Stuart Howard wrote:


OK well I give up

Situation :-

Transfer 39Mb file from
gentoo -> XP share using Konqueror trans time <=25 seconds [XP share
mounted smb using Linneibourhood]

Transfer 39Mb file from
gentoo -> XP share using winXP copy trans time >=5 mins [gentoo smb
directory to XP share dir ie. XP shared dir Not mounted]

So this is same file moving from same computer to same computer over
same network with NO changes except that "pushing" the file from linux
is massively quicker than "calling" the file from win.
I realise that there is probably a valid technical explanation for
this behaviour that is Beyond Our Level Of Current Knowledge [Sir]
however should it really be so hard to do this for an average user?

stu

ps. Solution is simple send letter bomb to M$ though it may take a
long while to get there unless I use a m$ proprietory letter carrier.

pps. Apologies if I am using this list for my rant, it was valid
untill this last post. It ends here


On 30/01/06, Stuart Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I agree in that I am using whichever tool is available to measure the
speed  eg. konqueror file transfer dialog or bmon to monitor rate
however I am not talking optmisations here where the same tool would
be necessary
eg. win to lin 39Mb file > 6 minites
win to win 39Mb file <20 seconds all on same hardware and network

The network itself comprises 10/100 nic's and a linksys WAG54G
gateway/router which again is 10/100.
genstu ~ # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
tulip  47264  0
genstu ~ # lspci
00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 (rev 25)

I have tried the MTU method
genstu ~ # ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:4C:A2:28:FF
  inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:15600752 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:18100911 errors:4892 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:4892
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:2679344110 (2555.2 Mb)  TX bytes:764637378 (729.2 Mb)
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xb000
WinXP is now set to
rwin 13140
MTU 1500

router
MTU 1500

#
Well ..

After writing all of this I went back to playing with it all and I
"think" I have somthing that could be considered to be acceptable.
using figures above I have acheived a speed [konqueror dialog] of around
2.6Mb/s ~ 22.6Mbps on a 300Mb file
which is a dramatic improvement really, though I have got to the point
where I have chased the issue round and up my .

but that said transfers are not painful so I seem to have a reasonable
resolution
Thanks for reading.

stu

ps. The quicker I can cut my families ties to Mr Gates the better.


On 30/01/06, William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How are you measuring this?  My first suspicion is that you are
measuring on your machine and trying to compare the figures from
different tools running on different OS's.


You also dont say what type of network this is over - 10/100/1000 ??
Also what hardware and drivers?

BillK


On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 13:06 +0100, Stuart Howard wrote:

Hi

I have a home LAN with a mix of dual boot, XP and Gentoo[<-- mine].
Now the basic problem is this :-
Transfer of file [eg. 200Mb]
Dual boot on XP--  XP  speed approx 50Mbps
Dual boot on linux--  XP  speed <= 1Mbps


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Re: [gentoo-user] Asking dhcp for a static address

[Steven Susbauer]

A static IP address is something you have to configure on the DHCP 
server, on the computer it just asks the server "What IP address am I 
supposed to have?". If you're set up with a static IP, it compares your 
mac address to a list and gives you the one you've assigned to it. The 
client side doesn't do anything out of the ordinary.


Sergio Polini wrote:

I can't understand how to ask dhcp for a static address.
I've read /etc/conf.d/net.example, but using

config_eth0=(  netmask  brd )

in /etc/conf.d/net configures my network interface _instead of_ asking 
dhcp (the files in /var/lib/dhcpc are not updated).


If I use

dhcpcd_eth0="-s "

dhcpcd hangs.

Any hints?

Thanks
Sergio

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange traffic says I am using windoze and have a bug.

[Steven Susbauer]

FYI, the messenger service is disabled by default as of Windows XP SP2On 12/26/05, Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:>> I have a Yahoo account.  I wish I could check it in Mozilla-mail
> though.Why not? I get about one spam from them per month but that means theylet me access via pop. You can certainly activate pop in yahoo. Maybeyou can't access via pop with hotmail but yahoo, gmail and probably most
others will let you...CheersAntoineps. unless you refuse if you don't have imap that is...--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remore control of current desktop

[Steven Susbauer]

As stated before, x11vnc is by far the easiest system to set this up with. When you have an x session running, you can run x11vnc (that's all you need to type) and then connect from anywhere. You can even run the command over an ssh connection. My favorite way of using this is through putty, just forward local port 5900 to the remote host, login to the remote host, start up x11vnc and then run a vncviewer connected to localhost:0, works great.
On 12/18/05, Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TightVNC_connecting_to_current_sessionThe wiki thing is a useful tool if you search for things on it.  It may
not have everything, but it did have what you were lookin for.Ow Mun Heng wrote:>On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 19:46 -0500, Daniel D Jones wrote:>>>>Is there a utility that will allow you to take control of the current Linux
>>desktop from a remote machine?  This is the way VNC works in windows.  Open>>VNC on a remote machine and you see the exact same thing you see on the local>>monitor, including any running programs.  Under Linux, however, VNC (at least
>>the versions I've tried) opens up a new desktop which is separate from the>>currently running desktop.  This is a neat and useful tool, but it's not what>>I need.  Are there, perhaps, any VNC app which offers this feature under
>>Linux?  Or some other way to do it?  If it all possible, it needs to be OS>>independent (take control of a Linux server frrom a client running on Windows>>and vice versa.)>>>>
>>>In Gnome, it's called Vino. This option is also available in VNC 4.0>IIRC. (but Vino surely does it)>>>>--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] VNCviewer config port

[Steven Susbauer]

I think if you connect to computer:4967 or whatever, it will use that instead of 5900 (which is where it will go if you type :0).If you're connecting through windows, putty makes it very easy to use vnc through an ssh tunnel, which would allow you to use 5900 without a problem.
On 12/15/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Hi,does anyone know how to specify a port to vncviewer (i used vncviewer
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install - Concern w/ NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra

[Steven Susbauer]

I just installed the amd64 Gentoo build on nforce 4. No issues whatsoever (except when I was using a 2004.3 cd... once I got the right one it was all working).As Richard said, using a hardware raid is not going to be easy, however an lvm or software raid shouldn't cause you any problems.
On 12/15/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 12/15/05, Doug Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> After a lot of research I have decided to go with Gentoo, and I think I have> all the install issues ironed out. My main concern is with compatiblity
> issues and my mobo. I have read a ton of horror stories, and I want to make> sure I am prepared for any issues that could arise when I install the OS. I> am also concerned mith the onboard raid controller and onboard lan.  I plan
> on setting up RAID 0+1. My mobo is a DFI Lan Party NF4 Ultra-D.  Any help> would be much appreciated.If you are thinking SATA RAID, think twice.  Nvidia doesn't providethe necessary hardware specs to make this work.  According to the
kernel maintainer for SATA support, nvidia is the _only_ majormanufacturer that refuses to release the specs.http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kernel-traffic/kt20050904_324.html#3NVidia does provide a proprietary driver on their web site that should
enable full support in linux, but I haven't tried it yet.However, there is no problem using the software RAID in Linux for this.-Richard--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?

[Steven Susbauer]

I forget where, but I did see some site at some time that had most of portage compiled in x86 binaries...On 12/13/05, Daevid Vincent <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > He should have been here when I installed Gentoo on a
> 200Mhz machine.>> He should have watched me compiling Apache, PHP, MySQL and a lot of> other packages on my Pentium 100 with 48MB of RAM, what other distro> could turn that machine on a useful server other than Gentoo. Keep the
Yeah yeah yeah... Great ol' glory days... Guess what... It's not the 80'sanymore.CPUs are fast, but the programs are still monolithic and take days tocompile.I fully agree (and have brought this up before months and years ago) -- I
believe we should have binaries available for the big packages like KDE, OO,Gnome, etc. Ya'll that like to waste your time compiling can keep on doingthat, while the rest of us would like to get some work done.
The thing that's frustrating me right now, is that I just installed KDE 3.5the other day, then upgraded to the new GCC. After a revdep, it apparentlyhas broken all my libc something or other and so I'm once again re-compiling
KDE to fix that! ...joy, only 176 packages to go... :-\And for you all that want to say -- "switch Distros", your logic is flawed.Just because I don't want to waste 3 days or more compiling KDE on a
2Ghz/640MB notebook, doesn't mean I don't want the other benefits of Gentoo,like "emerge -u world" and the fact that when I do need to install fromsource (like something that isn't in portage), it usually just compiles
fine. RedHat 8 NEVER worked that way for me.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] sata drive on abit fatal1ty an8-sli

[Steven Susbauer]

It loaded sata_nv and I'm pretty sure the drive is probably set up. I'm running headless at the time so I can't confirm. This is a 3gb/sec SATAII drive and controller, so I'm thinking it might be unsupported, at least by the kernel on the live cd (lspci is showing almost everything as "NVIDIA Corporation unknown device")
I'll probably wait and see if drives and everything show up and see if Windows is able to see the drive once I install the nforce drivers for it too, but I can't do that until the 20th when I get a graphics card.
On 12/9/05, maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > the dev tree? I didn't have anything like> /dev/sda.Oops, sorry, I didn't see this part. If the SATAdrivers are loaded when LiveCD boots it should see thedrive. I'm currently having a tussle w/ a SATA drive
myself(mostly resolved)from dmesg:...[   31.970006] nv_sata: Primary device added[   31.970021] nv_sata: Primary device removed[   31.970036] nv_sata: Secondary device removed[   31.970052
] ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/100[   31.970068] scsi0 : sata_nv[   32.170535] ata2: no device found (phy stat)[   32.170551] scsi1 : sata_nv[   32.170637]   Vendor: ATA   Model: WDC
WD1200JD-00G  Rev: 02.0[   32.170770]   Type:   Direct-Access ANSI SCSI[   32.171366] SCSI device sda: 234441648 512-bytehdwr sectors (120034 MB)[   32.171390] SCSI device sda: drive cache: write
back[   32.171445] SCSI device sda: 234441648 512-bytehdwr sectors (120034 MB)[   32.171467] SCSI device sda: drive cache: writeback[   32.171484]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 < sda5 sda6 sda7 >[   32.217661
] Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0,channel 0, id 0, lun 0...Does the drive show up in the POST? If not there Idon't think gentoo will see it either.If you run lsmod after LiveCD boots you'll see what
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Re: [gentoo-user] sata drive on abit fatal1ty an8-sli

[Steven Susbauer]

Well it looks like either Linux or Gentoo's live cd don't support the 3gb/sec SATA yet. It does load the sata_nv driver, but it doesn't seem to do anything with it since it's an older version. I guess I'll have to wait until I have a monitor and can run Partition Magic or something (though I do plan on totally reformatting once I can actually use the system).
On 12/8/05, Steven Susbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes I'm aware of that, what I don't know is what drive to partition, format and mount. In an IDE it is /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, etc. In this I have no clue...
On 12/8/05, 
maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Livecd found the drive but you have to format/mountit.--- Steven Susbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> Hey, I just got my first amd system in a long time.
> It has a 250gb sata> drive and the Gentoo live cd has some dmesg messages> about nvsata or> similar, but it doesn't say anything about where> it's stuck in the dev tree.>> Does the Gentoo live cd support nvidia nforce4 sata
> interfaces? Do I have to> do anything special to add in support at boot and> where would I find it in> the dev tree? I didn't have anything like /dev/sda.>> Thanks a bunch.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] sata drive on abit fatal1ty an8-sli

[Steven Susbauer]

Yes I'm aware of that, what I don't know is what drive to partition, format and mount. In an IDE it is /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, etc. In this I have no clue...On 12/8/05, 
maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Livecd found the drive but you have to format/mountit.--- Steven Susbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hey, I just got my first amd system in a long time.
> It has a 250gb sata> drive and the Gentoo live cd has some dmesg messages> about nvsata or> similar, but it doesn't say anything about where> it's stuck in the dev tree.>> Does the Gentoo live cd support nvidia nforce4 sata
> interfaces? Do I have to> do anything special to add in support at boot and> where would I find it in> the dev tree? I didn't have anything like /dev/sda.>> Thanks a bunch.>
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[gentoo-user] sata drive on abit fatal1ty an8-sli

[Steven Susbauer]

Hey, I just got my first amd system in a long time. It has a 250gb sata drive and the Gentoo live cd has some dmesg messages about nvsata or similar, but it doesn't say anything about where it's stuck in the dev tree.
Does the Gentoo live cd support nvidia nforce4 sata interfaces? Do I have to do anything special to add in support at boot and where would I find it in the dev tree? I didn't have anything like /dev/sda.Thanks a bunch.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Arrghh,,, X.org and NVidia (partly solved)

[Steven Susbauer]

I've always had agp compiled into the kernel and never had a problem with the nvidia driver.I don't know how much you've done, but have you made sure that the system is set for nvidia opengl? I think if it weren't it might explain why it's not saying no screens found with the nvidia driver, but glx isn't working.
eselect opengl list - is nvidia the one with the * by it?On 12/8/05, Kristian Poul Herkild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Luis Ortiz wrote:> Kristian Poul Herkild wrote:> [more...]
>>>_glxgears returns following:_>>Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".>>glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.>>>>_nvidia-settings (under menuitem OpenGL/GLX information) return following:_
>>The OpenGL extension 'GLX' is not supported by>>the X server or there was a problem retrieving>>GLX information from the X server.>>>>-Kristian Poul Herkild>>
> Do you have:>> Load "glx">> in the modules section?>> Section "Module"> # [some other modules...]> Load"glx"> EndSection
>> --> Luis OrtizYup# This loads the GLX module Load   "glx"and it's within the "Module" section. All it took was to uncomment theline. But it's not bad. I got the nvidia kernel to work and that's a
major step forward.However, AGPGART was not compiled as a module but compiled directly intothe kernel which means NvAGP cannot be used, so now I'm recompiling thekernel with AGPGART as a module and I've added Option "NvAgp" "3" to
/etc/X11/xorg.conf ... and then I'll have to do the nvidia-kernel danceagain and if that doesn't do anything I'll come "screaming" again ;)But at least the nvidia-kernel _does_ work :)-Kristian Poul Herkild
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Re: [gentoo-user] 64 bit or not

[Steven Susbauer]

Opera is closed source, I believe. Therefore it'd be using the same binary that everyone else is using.On 12/8/05, Mrugesh Karnik <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Thursday 08 December 2005 15:25, Martins Steinbergs wrote:
> how about Opera? what is proper way to determin is it 32 or 64 app? there> isn't such thing as opera-bin in portage however it must be 32 bit. i keep> it'cause works with netscape-flash.>
> martinsI'm also using Opera on the same system. It's 32 bit and works perfectly withnetscape-flash, which of course is 32 bit too. I just haven't been able tofigure out how to get Sun's JRE to work with Opera though. It works fine with
Firefox.So I use Firefox-bin and/or Opera for websites with Flash. Firefox-bin forJava. Though I also use Konqueror with Blackdown JDK, which is 64 bit, forJava stuff too. And there's Mozilla with VLC plugin for streaming stuff.
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Re: [gentoo-user] system audit

[Steven Susbauer]

Can't help witht he first part for the second one: gentoo-user
  General Gentoo user support and discussion mailing listI think that sums it up nicely. It is the general board, meaning that it is for support of pretty much anything. The problem with the other ones is that they are 
really made for the certain subjects. gentoo-laptop is mostly for power management and pcmcia stuff, you (in theory) don't ask a question about portage in there even if it's running on a laptop - but if you have a specific question about a specific thing that is only on a laptop (such as pcmcia or an intel 2200 wireless network card), you will probably get better answers in there... of course they are also probably reading this one (well many of them) and it's not really an issue if you post it in here, in fact it will probably be solved pretty quickly.
Gentoo-server is for talking about using Gentoo in production environments. That list has a lot of "How do I get my DNS to work correctly, it's not using my forward lookup zones", and hacks for portage for multi-admin setups, but you won't find much basic "How do I install" or "Why isn't it seeing this device?" (unless it's a server raid card or whatever). We don't get much of that in here.
I really think it's fine, I think if you're on  general list you should expect some culmination of general questions. If someone can't get the right help in here, they should try asking in the gentoo-subject and see if they get some more specific support. The IRC channel does it nicely... ask about a sparc and they'll say "Well I think this and this, but check in #gentoo-sparc and you'll probably find a better response".
On 12/7/05, J.A.H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  
  


Hi --- Is there a way to print all of the installed programs by
category. I would like to know what development libraries and tools are
installed and also what is installed that I never use.  

Basically I want to remove everything not in use so that another
upgrade will take less time. Once I remove a program, library, or
something else, how will I know that there will be no affected
dependencies.

Also is there something which will reveal that an executable or library
has never been used or infrequently used. 

I have not installed many packages outside the portage sandbox. Most
packages that were installed outside portage were installed in a
non-portage area within usr.


Note: Why are there administration, laptop, and server related posts at
gentoo-user and less at gentoo-admin or the other ones? The amount of
emails at
gentoo-user is too high volume IMO. 

Why not remove gentoo-user
and instead add more lists like
gentoo-install, or whatever else. The gentoo-user list is misleading
since every
user using gentoo is a user. It should be removed instead.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

[Steven Susbauer]

Where is it posted?Did plugging this back in end up fixing the problem?On 1/7/05, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:It turned out to be unrelated to memory.  Just as I posted it had to
do with what I last had in my hand.  Apparently plugging one of theIDE ribbons pulled out another tiny plug.  I can't tell from theterrible little quick reference that comes with that intel board whatthe heck it was.  It appears to be a connection for front USB 2.
I've posted a picture with 2 arrows.   A red one showing the memorycards to orient the viewer and a green one indicating where this tinyplug is.   My grandson did the honors holding back the extra junk.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleanup kde-3.4

[Steven Susbauer]

And listed from the kde docs, the best way to remove is:equery list kde-base/ | grep 3.4 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretendOn 12/7/05, 
Andres Becerra Sandoval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 12/7/05, Catalin Grigoroscuta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>  Isn't qpkg deprecated?>  Does anybody know the equivalent un-deprecated replacement of this command?
>>>  Neil Bothwick wrote:>  On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:19:27 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:>>>>  I've just completed an upgrade to kde-meta-3.5 from kde-meta-3.4 --
> what's the beast way to clean up all the old kde 3.4 packages.>>  As posted yesterday:>> qpkg -I -nc -g kde-base | xargs emerge --prune>>>>>equery is the actual replacement
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Re: [gentoo-user] 64 bit or not

[Steven Susbauer]

What about things like nvidia drivers, flash and java? (Obviously I could also just look through gentoo-portage.com...). Does firefox run in 64 bit? What about xmms and full alsa?I'm about to mess with my new system once I get the video card, it too is an AMD64.
On 12/7/05, Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 17:25, Ralph Slooten wrote:> Harry Putnam wrote:> > I'm about to install gentoo on an athlon64.  Is there enough 64 bit> > software and other good reasons to use the 64 bit version?
> >> > Although a long time linux user, I'm not particularly skilled at> > dealing with problems (a slow learning or just thick headed I guess).> >> > But have cross posted this to hear from both 32 and 64 bit advocates.
>> Hi,>> I'm also curious to the answers to this question ;-) I just received> (yesterday) my new AMD64 comp, and am busy installing it too as 64bit. I> found this link which does answer quite a lot:
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-amd64-faq.xml>> This does however not  say if users are successfully using 64bit> systems, and if there are actual advantages to it (double-libraries for
> some programs etc etc).>> Greetings> Ralphhi, kde-3.5 desktop with 512 RAM and few webapps on local apache2+php+mysqlruns fine here.martins--Linux 2.6.15-rc2 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
 18:33:42 up  6:20,  6 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.08-- Steven Susbauer

Re: [gentoo-user] Optical mouse lights off on kernel 2.6.14 but works on kernel 2.4.30

[Steven Susbauer]

It will run lilo. It will also ask if you want to make a bootdisk if you are missing lilo and grub.On 12/7/05, Neil Bothwick <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 05:34:19 -0600, Dale wrote:
> >Why not let make do the whole job and add "make install"? That installs> >the kernel, makes the appropriate symlinks to the new and previous> >kernel and backs up your config.
> Because I did that once and it made a mess.  I decided I can do it> better than it can.  It copied a whole bunch of crap over.  Maybe it was> a bug or something.  I dunno.Maybe. I know I've been doing it that way for a couple of years, on
several boxes, without a problem. It should only copy the kernel,System.map and config to /boot, and make the necessary symlinks to savealtering grub.conf. I believe it also runs lilo if necessary, but Idon't use lilo so I can't confirm that.
--Neil Bothwick Q:  How does a Zen Master order a hot dog? A: "Make me one with everything."-- Steven Susbauer

Re: [gentoo-user] Optical mouse lights off on kernel 2.6.14 but works on kernel 2.4.30

[Steven Susbauer]

FIG_FB_VESA=yCONFIG_FB_VESA_TNG=yCONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=yCONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=yCONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=yCONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=yCONFIG_FONT_8x8=yCONFIG_FONT_8x16=yCONFIG_FB_SPLASH=yCONFIG_SOUND=y
CONFIG_SND=mCONFIG_SND_TIMER=mCONFIG_SND_PCM=mCONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=mCONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=mCONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=mCONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=yCONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=mCONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=mCONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_RTCTIMER=mCONFIG_SND_SEQ_RTCTIMER_DEFAULT=yCONFIG_SND_GENERIC_DRIVER=yCONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=mCONFIG_SND_DUMMY=mCONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI=mCONFIG_SND_MTPAV=mCONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550=m
CONFIG_SND_MPU401=mCONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=mCONFIG_SND_AC97_BUS=mCONFIG_SND_VIA82XX=mCONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=yCONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=yCONFIG_USB=mCONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=yCONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m
CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=mCONFIG_USB_STORAGE=mCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DATAFAB=yCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_FREECOM=yCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_ISD200=yCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DPCM=yCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_USBAT=yCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR09=y
CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR55=yCONFIG_USB_STORAGE_JUMPSHOT=yCONFIG_USB_HID=mCONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=yCONFIG_HID_FF=yCONFIG_HID_PID=yCONFIG_LOGITECH_FF=yCONFIG_THRUSTMASTER_FF=yCONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y
CONFIG_USB_MDC800=mCONFIG_USB_MICROTEK=mCONFIG_USB_DABUSB=mCONFIG_USB_USS720=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GENERIC=yCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_AIRPRIME=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_BELKIN=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_DIGI_ACCELEPORT=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CP2101=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CYPRESS_M8=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EMPEG=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_IPAQ=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EDGEPORT=mCONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EDGEPORT_TI=m
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CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=yCONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY=yCONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP=yCONFIG_FS_XIP=yCONFIG_FS_MBCACHE=yCONFIG_REISERFS_FS=yCONFIG_REISERFS_PROC_INFO=yCONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=yCONFIG_REISERFS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y
CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_SECURITY=yCONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL=yCONFIG_ROMFS_FS=mCONFIG_INOTIFY=yCONFIG_QUOTA=yCONFIG_QFMT_V1=mCONFIG_QFMT_V2=mCONFIG_QUOTACTL=yCONFIG_DNOTIFY=yCONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y
CONFIG_JOLIET=yCONFIG_ZISOFS=yCONFIG_ZISOFS_FS=yCONFIG_UDF_FS=yCONFIG_UDF_NLS=yCONFIG_FAT_FS=yCONFIG_VFAT_FS=yCONFIG_PROC_FS=yCONFIG_PROC_KCORE=yCONFIG_SYSFS=yCONFIG_TMPFS=y
CONFIG_RAMFS=yCONFIG_NFS_FS=mCONFIG_NFS_V3=yCONFIG_NFS_V4=yCONFIG_NFSD=mCONFIG_NFSD_V3=yCONFIG_NFSD_V4=yCONFIG_NFSD_TCP=yCONFIG_LOCKD=mCONFIG_LOCKD_V4=yCONFIG_EXPORTFS=mCONFIG_NFS_COMMON=y
CONFIG_SUNRPC=mCONFIG_SUNRPC_GSS=mCONFIG_RPCSEC_GSS_KRB5=mCONFIG_SMB_FS=mCONFIG_SMB_NLS_DEFAULT=yCONFIG_CIFS=mCONFIG_CIFS_STATS=yCONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION=yCONFIG_NLS=yCONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y
CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=yCONFIG_NLS_UTF8=yCONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=yCONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=yCONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE=yCONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK=yCONFIG_DEBUG_STACKOVERFLOW=yCONFIG_4KSTACKS=yCONFIG_X86_FIND_SMP_CONFIG=y
CONFIG_X86_MPPARSE=yCONFIG_CRYPTO=yCONFIG_CRYPTO_HMAC=yCONFIG_CRYPTO_NULL=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_MD4=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_MD5=yCONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA1=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA256=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA512=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_WP512=m
CONFIG_CRYPTO_TGR192=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_DES=yCONFIG_CRYPTO_BLOWFISH=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_SERPENT=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_586=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_CAST5=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_CAST6=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_TEA=m
CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_KHAZAD=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_ANUBIS=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_DEFLATE=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_MICHAEL_MIC=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_CRC32C=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_DEV_PADLOCK=mCONFIG_CRYPTO_DEV_PADLOCK_AES=y
CONFIG_CRC_CCITT=mCONFIG_CRC32=yCONFIG_LIBCRC32C=mCONFIG_ZLIB_INFLATE=yCONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=mCONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=yCONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=yCONFIG_X86_BIOS_REBOOT=yCONFIG_PC=y
The xorg.conf :Identifier  "Mouse1"Driver  "mouse"Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"Option  "Device"   "/dev/psaux"
Option  "Buttons"  "5"Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"2005/12/5, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 12/5/05, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > The problem isn't in X, it is in the kernel, and when I googled for a
> > solution, I saw a few messages that pointed to the same problem.> > I think it is related to udev.>> No, udev only creates device nodes.  It does not have anything to do> with powering on (or off) devices or intercepting mouse events.  There
> is no udev rule that can fix your mouse behavior, only the kernel or X> configuration can impact this.  Also, you _should_ have a different X> configuration for 2.6 compared to 2.4.>> With that, please specify what kernel options you specified for your
> input devices, and post the InputDevice section of your xorg.conf> file.  For the kernel configuration, feel free to post the result of> "grep =[ym] /usr/src/linux/.config".>> -Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] What package contains startkde

[Steven Susbauer]

kdebase, I believeOn 12/4/05, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've unmerged several kde packages from what was originally probably afull kde install.  Now on starx  the startkde command cannot be found.I hate to reinstall everthing I unmerged just to find this command.
These are the candidates from emerge.log1132029646:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics-3.3.2-r21133109258:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdegraphics1133721861:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdebase-
3.3.2-r21133721955:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r71133722049:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-3.3.21133722086:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7
1133722165:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r11133722205:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.5.01133722232:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/arts-3.4.31133722681:  *** emerge --verbose unmerge kde-base/kdeadmin-
3.4.1Some of these were unmerged because I had the same package from 3.4 installed.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?

[Steven Susbauer]

It's relatively easy to delete the libraries from the world file. All I keep in there is stuff I know I want, like kscd or whatever. You also have to delete the 3.4.3 version numbers from the files, which can be a pain if you don't know how to use vi.
It is for the most part easier to start with a blank slate; in my case I like having everything and deleting things I know I don't need, because otherwise I'm likely to forget something I do.After cleaning up the world file, depclean will remove the things I didn't need.
On 12/4/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 09:38:17 -0800, Steven Susbauer wrote:> since I want the actual installed programs to stay even with a> depclean, I add them to my world file ( equery l kde-base/ | grep> kde-base >> /var/lib/portage/world ).
That will put all kde-base files in world, even libraries and otherdependencies.--Neil BothwickThe quickest way to a man's heart is through his sternum.
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Re: [gentoo-user] C++ missing

[Steven Susbauer]

stage 3 is the suggested way of doing it nowadays anyway. If you're a sp33d d3m0n you can always run the bootstrap and emerge -e system, emerge -e world after you've installed everything. It will take a long while, but since it's still up and running while it does this, that's generally okay.
On 12/4/05, Mike Kenny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dale wrote:>> You should have plenty of space then.  You are not half way there yet.> If you put a full KDE on there, it will be close.>> You may want to do a env-update then exit the chroot.  Just type in
> env-update the exit to exit.  Then go back and chroot in again following> this:>> mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc>> cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf>
> chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash>> env-update>> source /etc/profile>> It may tell you proc is already mounted.  If it does, that's OK.  Next step.>> Whatever you do, don't start over.  Most anything can be fixed and it
> will save you from downloading all the stuff again.  If you do start> over, try to save /usr portage.  That is where it puts the downloaded stuff.>> If chroot'ing in don't help, me clueless.  Maybe a serious guru will
> come along and help.>> Dale> :-)>Thanks for the effort, but I have tried all this. So now, rather thanstart from scratch I am going to install from a stage3 and move on from
there. This should work and as I am pushed now to get an openXchangeconfiguration setup, this will do for now. Once I have it stable itshould be possible to go back and re-install from source, I guess.
--mike kennyLinux Registered User #381724LPI ID# 80080"Hell, there are no rules here, we're just trying to accomplish something"Thomas Edison
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Re: [gentoo-user] Need drive space, what to delete?

[Steven Susbauer]

y controlling her environment excessively.This position is supported by the fact that you *cannot* provide everysingle bell-and-whistle available-- you simply don't have the disk
space. So for you, if you want to encourage your mother (and thegreatest encouragement is a positive user experience), the best way todo that is to customize the PC to her actual needs, rather than tryingto cover every possible eventuality of what you *think* she *might* want
*someday*.I'd say, strip the system down to the bare minimum of what she's likelyto need "daily" (and what the system can reasonably support to runquickly, since a slow computer is not part of a positive user
experience), and let her get comfortable with that-- if she then expandsher horizons and needs more functionality, she can ask you (mother-sonbonding, an added benefit), or she can learn about Gentoo at her own
pace and have the thrill of accomplishment just like you've had.Just my 5 Euros,Holly--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] "check for update" option greyed out for firefox1.5

[Steven Susbauer]

It could be edited on purpose by the person that compiled it... since
using the firefox updater doesn't work on Gentoo and you have to update
with portage instead.On 11/30/05, 黄飞 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
the problem arised since my installation of firefox1.5rc series, i
tried to find out any improper settings from about:config, but no luck.it was a clean emerge of mozilla-firefox-bin (a compiled version of firefox1.5rc-3
 had the same issue). how come this would happen?the 1.5 version just works on Windows. but not for my gentoo?anybody here would kindly give me some advice? thanks in advance.--

daniel 

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Re: [gentoo-user] World File

[Steven Susbauer]

Yes, /var/db/pkg will have information about every package installed (in the subdirectories).

The world file has things that you want to always be there, or you installed manually.On 11/26/05, Jeff Grossman <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I was reading a different thread about the world file does not
necessarily contain all of the programs installed, if they areinstalled from a dependency.  Is there a way to see what programs areinstalled on the machine which are not in the world file?Thanks,Jeff
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Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?)

[Steven Susbauer]

Maybe it's just me, but I have never seen the Stage 1 as any harder
than Stage 3. The only difference was... umm... setting your CFLAGS and
USE flags. Seriously, how hard is it to type bootstrap, or emerge -e
system?

I am not saying the move is bad, I totally understand it. I hope that
the new docs do have a "How to recompile everything" at the end
somewhere though, for those of us that like the optimization.

As far as I've seen, stage 1 is still on the mirrors. If it's really an
issue for you, why not download it and just run bootstrap and emerge?On 11/21/05, kashani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Jason Dodson wrote:> Such a scenario could be your your arms and legs falling off...
I suspect I'd spend more time typing if I had to use only my noserather than fingers so this fails the "get more work done" test. Perhapsyour nose is more dexterous than mine?Jokes aside my definition of "getting more work done" does include
things being stable so I don't have to fix them again, not giving upflexibility that would save me work in the future, and so forth. Thereis a fine line to walk and in many case I'll err on the side of more
work during working hours to be sure of no work in my own time.On the other hand I just took a job as employee #6 at a startup in SanFrancisco which is sure to double the number of hours I work as well as
move me cross country so maybe I'm not as smart as I thought.kashaniPS: anyone in SF need a roommate?--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] BUG? - bridge-utils no binary?

[Steven Susbauer]

Check the emerge logs and see what files were copied where (the part 
where it's like /usr/bin/brctl - or whatever). It may be that the 
command is slightly different with this version. *shrugs*


Ognjen Bezanov wrote:

Hello

I am building a linux AP using a clean installation of gentoo and this
howto:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Building_a_Wireless_Access_Point_With_Gentoo

Everything was going great until I came to emerging bridge-utils.

the actual emerging didnt fail (using "emerge bridge-utils -av") but
typing the command brctl it tells me '-bash: brctl: command not found'

next I try "whereis brctl", resulting in:

brctl: /usr/man/man8/brctl.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/brctl.8.gz

ok, so the man files are there, it seems the package was installed. but
no binary.

Using "find / -name brctl"  i also got nothing.

It seems that there is no binary, I have tried emerging again,
unmerging, updating and the like, still the same problem.  The emerge
itself doesnt fail with the usual "Error..." so I presume thats fine (or
am i wrong that
emerge would halt on all errors?)

Any help appreciated as I am somewhat at a loss as to whats going on.

thanks




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Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2?

[Steven Susbauer]

Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:

On 6/19/05, Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 10:28 -0700, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:


Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2 (x86
architecture)? I just can't seem to remember the name of the site.


Could it possibly be http://chinstrap.alternating.net/ ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dependency problems with Stage 1 install

[Steven Susbauer]

Ezequiel Tolnay wrote:

I've also noticed that during gettext compilation, the configure script 
probed for the availability of certain compilers, like f77. If f77 is 
later installed, will it mean that gettext should be recompiled?


No. It's just checking to see what compiler is available. In the end the 
binary is pretty much the same.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamic DNS

[Steven Susbauer]

This is not what dyndns is for. dyndns is for when your external IP
changes because of your internet provider, internal network DNS will
always have to be done by yourself.


On 5/25/05, James Hiscock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I want to use dhcp on my home network to assign IP addresses which means
> > I'll need a dynamic DNS.  I know I can go to dyndns.org and set up
> > something with them but can I setup my own name server (BIND or whatever)
> > and some program that will work with that to keep the DNS updated?
> 
> There's a much simpler solution, specifically for LAN setups: dnsmasq.
> You might want to look into it - much easier than dealing with BIND or
> a more full-featured DNS server, especially when coupled with
> dhcpd/dhcpcd...
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200-IGNORE FOUND PAGE TO FIX

[Steven Susbauer]

C R. Little wrote:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1060314#1060314

-Original Message-
From: C R. Little 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:30 PM

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] ipw2200


How do I emerge the ~x86 version of the ipw2200 package? with out installing 
all of the ~x86 packages.

I do.
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -Dupv ipw2220 and it wants to recompile almost 
every package.

Why not do `ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge ipw2200`. Reemerging a 
package, or getting one of a newer version, removes the original.


I would suggest adding the line `net-wireless/ipw2200 ~x86` to your 
/etc/portage/package.keywords file, then running a normal emerge ipw2200 
(or update).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install from Hell, now it's bash-2.05b

[Steven Susbauer]

Walter Dnes wrote:

  I'm trying to do a stage 1 install on an old 400 mhz PII with 128 megs
of RAM for use as an experimental server.  Compile options are sane...
-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -pipe
I'm having extreme problems getting past...  "emerge --emptytree system"
at chapter 6.d of the online install docs at
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 and will
probably attempt a stage 3 install next time, just to bypass it, unless
somebody can come up with a quick-n-dirty solution to my problems soon.


Isn't a P2 i586? I've never gotten a 686 build to work on mine.

I'm also not seeing -mmmx as a valid compile option, either on Gentoo 
Wiki or the GCC optimization listings. Maybe it is and I'm just not 
finding it, but you could try removing that one and seeing if it makes a 
difference.

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Re: [gentoo-user] only binaries

[Steven Susbauer]

Johannes Weiner wrote:

On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 09:53:36AM +0200, Al Bayrouni wrote:


Hello,

I like gentoo but I hate to pass hours (sometimes days) for installing 
what I need.(celeron 2GH is not fast machine)


So my question is:

Is it possible to install only binaries (if they exist).

Thank you very much
Bayrouni.



What do you like Gentoo for then?

Ease of administration? That's my main reason, it's always been pretty 
straightforward.


I do not think that binaries are hosted anywhere, but I know that some 
people have local binary repositories. There is the gentoo GRP if you're 
just looking to get something up and running.


In my case it's building newer packages for older hardware using a newer 
machine...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy

[Steven Susbauer]

rob3 wrote:
I can't keep the clock on the right time.   This Dell 8600 Laptop has a
brand new mobo in it.  So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead
already.  Windoze shows the same behavior.
Thanks,  Rob
  

Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more
or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock
to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and
Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each
other??
Check /etc/rc.conf and see if clock says "UTC" or "local". If it says 
UTC, than that is the problem (as Windows doesn't support having a 
different OS clock than bios clock).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Are there ANY working wireless cards?

[Steven Susbauer]

I've found the NDIS wrapper to work AMAZINGLY well with many different
Windows drivers! My built in wireless card on my laptop (made my Alink)
actually does have a linux driver, but I have stuck with the NDIS wrapper
and windows driver because of how well it works. :)
--Josh Hunholz
Unless you want to run something like Airsnort, Aircrack, kismet, etc. etc.
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Re: [gentoo-user] test

[Steven Susbauer]

Gmail will not send you your own messages. It's both "smart" and annoying.

On 5/6/05, Jan Han Xie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 07 May 2005 04:37, Tom Wesley wrote:
> > On Sat, 7 May 2005 04:30:14 +0800
> >
> > Jan Han Xie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Sorry but it seems my post won't appear in the list...
> > > This is a test post.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Computer Science & Engineering Department,
> > > College of Computer Science, Zhejiang University,
> > > Hangzhou, China
> >
> > I got it.
> Damn it. I haven't received my test post yet in my gmail box. It seems the
> gmail's problem...
> 
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> 
> 
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?

[Steven Susbauer]

I think there's one thing that Outlook has done correctly. If you set it 
to compose text messages, the style bars and all that are still there. 
If you click bold or italic, it asks you if you want to compose this 
message in HTML instead. If Thunderbird and other email clients made it 
so easy to switch to HTML when you want it (and not when you're just 
writing a little text message), I don't think it would be as much of a 
problem.

Calvin Spealman wrote:
Going by the same reasons of client differences, one could argue we
never should have extended HTML beyond the first version of Mosaic.
This is insane, of course. Progress is a driving force of technology.
I use HTML to style code samples in my postings, and to add some pizaz
when e-mailing friends. Plug, I enjoy the interface for it in GMail.
If your text-only email client can't even strip out html tags,
complain to the developers, not me.  Progress should not be held back
by the few who think there is any value in plain text. Instead of
everyone keeping track of where to send plain text and where to send
real text, maybe the recipients should take responsibility for their
own preferences.
I will remember to use plain text for this list, but let it be known
that I don't want to and I shouldn't have to. If i knew I wouldn't get
banned for no good reason at all (and it would be no good reason at
all, mind you), I'd turn the HTML right back on. With XSLT styling, no
less.
We've all got our opinions. That's mine, and I know I don't hold it
alone, not even on this list, so at least cut the arrogent attitudes
about it.
On 5/2/05, Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I know people say it, but why?
It's an extreme waste and provides no value.
We're here to post questions and responses, not to create pretty pictures
with colored fonts, etc.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is gpgsm?

[Steven Susbauer]

I do believe that newpg is in GnuPG as of GnuPG 1.9
Luigi Pinna wrote:
Hello!
I search to install the gpg-agent plug-in in my GENTOO box, but it 
doesn't support the  s/mime because gpgsm is not installed.
The problem is that binary is in the package newpg that isn't more in 
the portage tree...
Does it exist a new package or I must install it manually? I'm very 
curious to know the reason because this package doesn't exist more...
Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-user] Are my posts getting through?

[Steven Susbauer]

Gmail doesn't give you back posts that you write (it's intelligent, or 
annoying, whatever your viewpoint).

This stands for users using POP/SMTP for Gmail as well (like myself).
Robert G. Hays wrote:
Um,
1) your got here.
2) I get mine back.
hth,
rgh.
The Disguised Jedi wrote:
you don't get your own posts back, as far as i know.  Of course, I'm 
using Gmail, which may not show them anyway
 
This post got throughthat's for sure

 
On 4/13/05, fire-eyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

I can't really think of another way to verify this so here we go.
Are my posts making it through to the list? I recently posted one
about
a 3Com card but never saw it show up.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox XML problems

[Steven Susbauer]

chrome is the guts of the browser, not really much for you to do with it 
anyway.

I'd suggest reemerging firefox, if you haven't already.
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
It seems that suddenly, anything to do with downloading, or even
viewing HTML source,
is broken.  I get a dialog box showing (for viewing source):
XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: chrome://global/content/viewSource.xul
Line Number 1, Column 1:
;
^
Is this a known problem?  Is there a fix?
I have no idea where to look for "chrome://" so there's not much for me to do...
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerginig e100

[Steven Susbauer]

compile it in the kernel. You do not need to emerge anything. If 
compiled in the kernel it will "Just Work" (TM)

pat wrote:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:02:12 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:31:37 +0200 "pat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I tryed to emerge e100 net card driver, but it failed with an error.
e100 is supported in-kernel.

So there is not necessary to emerge this net card, ok, how to enable this card
??? What is better solutin, use it as module or compile it to the kernel ???
Thanks
 Pat
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