[Hornlist] FS: Alexander Stop Mute

[Chris Tedesco]

Pardon the double post!


I'm selling a used Alexander stopping mute and I wanted to post to the lists 
before eBay.  It has a few dings in the corpus, the cork is in great shape as 
is the lacquer and this mute is LOUD.  This mute retails for about $340 from 
Osmun, I'm asking  $215 or best offer including domestic shipping.  Feel free 
to contact me offlist for pictures or more info.  I do kindly ask you that you 
remove [horn] or [hornlist] from the email so it gets to the right folder in my 
overflowing mailbox. 

Thanks for your time,
Chris Tedesco
tedes...@yahoo.com 


  
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[Hornlist] New World Orchestra Rankings

[Chris Tedesco]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97291390

Came across this link posted by colleague on facebook, interesting read!

Chris



  
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Re: [Hornlist] NY Times horn feature

[Chris Tedesco]

In Baseball you can miss 70% percent of the time and be "good"

Chris



- Original Message 
From: Adam Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Horn List 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:38:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] NY Times horn feature


I guess my point is that even Nadal and Federer miss sometimes. It is 
unrealistic to expect them to NEVER miss. Us struggling amateur hornists 
obviously miss a lot more often than the professionals. As human beings in any 
endeavour, we do aim for perfection - that is after all, what keeps us 
improving. But, we never quite get there, do we?
Adam> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:20:50 -0400> Subject: 
Re: [Hornlist] NY Times horn feature> To: horn@music.memphis.edu> > Those that 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:40:56 -0400> Subject: Re: > 
[Hornlist] NY Times horn feature> To: horn@music.memphis.edu> > I'm going to > 
open myself to a ton of criticism but I can think of one > solution for horn > 
players everywhere and it can be summed up into two words:> > Don't miss.> > > 
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Re: [Hornlist] What's the Best PHC Mouthpiece for me?

[Chris Tedesco]

Getting a new mouthpiece cold turkey can be a daunting experience especially if 
you don't readily have access to a plethora of different pieces.  To say what 
is best for you specifically, probably only you can truly know through trial 
and error of different dimensions for the variables.  

Having said that, when I'm looking for a new mouthpiece, I try to keep a good 
eye on the specifics of what I LIKE about my current mouthpiece.  That is, if I 
know I prefer a 17.5mm inner diameter over all else, which I do, I don't bother 
with other sizes.  I think it also helps to know what general shape of a rim 
you like since that also is an important part of the mouthpiece.  

To be pragmatic, sometimes you can order a number of mouthpieces or even a demo 
kit with some kinda of partial deposit or having them hold onto your CC number 
in case they don't return:)  I have found this to be pretty convenient if not a 
little costly.  Then again, I think it's better to spend a little in 
shipping/restocking/santizing etc then to buy a mouthpiece that is not for you. 
 I'd try and find any US retailers of PHC mouthpieces and see if you can do a 
trial of a few that you think you'd like.  If you more or less like the one you 
are trying, you can start by ordering a few a little 
bigger/smaller/rounded/flatter etc. than the one you are trying and know you 
like more than yoru current set up.  Aside from the price, you might run into a 
problem of them not having every single variation on the mouthpeice theme in 
stock and won't get the full variety you'd might like.  

Happy mouthpiece hunting,
Chris



- Original Message 
From: Michael Kolaghassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Horn list 
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 1:10:55 AM
Subject: [Hornlist] What's the Best PHC Mouthpiece for me?

Hey everyone,
I am trying out a PHC mouthpiece through Mr. Dennis Houghton and previously 
played on a Holton MDC.  I guess I have fuller/bigger lips than the average 
horn player and have found the low register (despite how often or long I 
practice it) to be quite troublesome (i.e. attacks lower than G below treble 
clef are very messy and almost non-existant to obtain playing staccatto).  
 
The PHC mouthpiece (rim AN, cup 23) I am trying has made things easier, the 
lower register comes more freely and attacks are somewhat easier.   
 
I am interested in purchasing a PHC Mouthpiece but before I make a purchase I 
would like some recommendations on what would be best suited for my lips.  I 
assume a wider inner diameter rim would be best but HOW wide?  And also what 
about the size of the cup and rim thickness?  There are so many variables it 
bewilders me, and I would appreciate any help from any knowledgeable people out 
there.
 
 
Thank you,
 
Michael Kolaghassi
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Re: [Hornlist] Bad experience with David Thompson store

[Chris Tedesco]

I've purchased a case and music a number of times from Mr. Thompson 
pre-shopping cart (i.e. when you had to email him to order) and all of my 
experiences have been pretty smooth.  You might have better luck contacting him 
directly through other means.  Below is a paste of other ways to contact him 
from http://thompsonedition.com/contact.php

Thompson Edition, Inc.
215 Bailey Ave.
Rock Hill, SC 29732-1003
U.S.A.

Telephone  (+1) 803-366-4446
Fax  (+1) 303-593-8519

Fax (Europe)  (+34) 933 931 963


I think he runs the Yahoo hornlist and is very possibly is subscribed to this 
hornlist as well, so perhaps you will garner his attention with your recent 
post.  I personally would not be concerned ordering from him again and as with 
any business, things like this can happen from time to time.  

unabashedly biased,
Chris

- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:45:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bad experience with David Thompson store

Wee everyone has an opinion,

I have done business with Dave many times and no complaints, products  
delivered and e-mails answered.

John Wilber

Flagstaff AZ


In a message dated 7/26/2008 2:15:10 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello  Guy

I ordered the Hindemith Trumpet Sonata at David Thompson store and  I didn't
receive it yet. I ordered it in November and I sent several  e-mails asking
for track and trace number, but they were never  answered!

I'm here not only to complain, but also to advise people that  they never
give feed backs.

Even if one day I receive the Sonata I  will never again buy at David
Thompson store.

Take  care

Robson
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[Hornlist] FS: Houser JL underpart

[Chris Tedesco]

Hello fellow hornlisters,

Just thought I would offer this up to the list before hawking it on eBay, I'm 
selling a Houser JL mouthpiece cup.  This is the Julie Landsman model and I'd 
imagine it would work best in an 8D style horn with its deep cup and large 
bore.  New, they are $95 + shipping and I'm asking for $45 OBO including 
domestic shipping.  If you are interested in this before I put it up on eBay, 
would like pictures, or have any questions, feel free to contact me offlist at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks and apologies as always for the double post,
Chris Tedesco



  
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[Hornlist] Rim nomenclature identification

[Chris Tedesco]

Pardon the double post!

I was recently digging through a box and found a mouthpiece I didn't know I 
have.  (Imagine that!)  

Anyway, I have been able to identify the underpart but the rim is still 
elusive.  There is no brand marking and the engraving reads "L3.5X 80"  The "." 
between the 3 and the 5 is a not exactly perfectly placed so it may be 
incidental.  

The overall shape of the rim reminds me of a Lawson and I vaguely recall seeing 
a number of modified mouthpieces from a Lawson demo kit in undergrad with a 
similar nomenclature but nothing definitive.  I am asking mainly because I want 
to sell this mouthpiece and would like to represent it accurately.  

If anyone on the list has any clues as to where this mouthpiece rim may have 
come from, feel free to contact me with ideas.  


Thanks in advance,
Chris Tedesco



  
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Re: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?

[Chris Tedesco]

This mirrors my own experience on flying in smaller planes.  I have done most 
of my flying with my horn out of the Dayton airport and it nearly always 
requires a connecting flight to a bigger hub via a smaller plane, causing a 
little conflict with those that want me to check my horn.  

When it comes to cases specifically, as has been mentioned in the thread, the 
case with the unzippable bell piece can make dealing with small planes a lot 
easier.  I personally have not owned or travelled with such a case but a number 
of my colleagues have used them extensively and said that it allowed them to 
store part of under the seat and another part in the smaller overheard.  

Another thing to consider, though, is that when you do NOT have one of these 
cases, is that the flight crew can often accommodate your instrument in another 
ways.  I have used empty seats and buckled my case down as if it were a 
passenger and also have had the crew place the case in the crew's closet in 
lieu of an empty seat.  One of my former teachers once told me his default 
Yamaha cut-bell suitcase-style case was placed in between the pilots in the 
cockpit even.  This is definetly easier said than done but calmly and 
courteously asking the attendant for this special request will end more 
favorably than angrily demanding.  

I will admit that on my first trip with my horn, I actually did check my horn 
under the bug squasher  only if it was placed on top of the other luggage and 
would be strapped down so it didn't move.  They assured the safety of my 
instrument despite honestly having no idea how they would handle it.  When the 
plane landed my horn placed in the beastly Thompson Edition cut bell 
case(shameless plug) came out unscathed.  Since then I have never had to check 
it under the plane.  

Feigning ignorance and surprise at the expected size of the overhead 
compartment for which your case was specifically designed as well as politely 
explaining the fragile, costly and sometimes irreparable nature of instruments 
has worked well for me in obtaining special accommodations for your horn on 
small planes.  Interestingly enough, the smoothest time I have had was on a 
connecting flight from Malpensa to Catania, Italy on Alitalia in which the 
pilot himself helped me find a place for my horn and let the crew know to keep 
the drama down.  

One thing I haven't quite understood is why the attendants act like they have 
never seen an instrument on a plane before.(ZOMG HORNS ON A PLANE)  Nearly 
whenever I fly, I see others walking around the airport with instruments so I 
would imagine it's more common than you think and thus would be a fairly 
frequent occurance for the flight attendants to handle.  Nevertheless, their 
often appearant and visible annoyance or perceived crisis at my request for 
instrumental safety is why I insist on being calm and polite with requests 
because... they seem a little stressed out already.  (Not that I would 
necessarily blame them based on how rude many of the passengers are to them)

Chris



- Original Message 
From: Nicholas Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: horn list 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:48:04 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Is there a universal flight case?

I just finished a day of travel headaches with Delta airlines. They had me on a 
tiny twin engine connection jet, and they tried their hardest to get me to 
check my Marcus Bonna MB5, but I told them that the case would fit, that it had 
been designed to fit on airplanes, and that I had done it all before with no 
problem. Skeptically, they let me board. The seats on the plane were set up so 
that there was a line of single window seats, then an isle, then a line of 
double seats, one on the isle, one by the window. My seat was one of the single 
window seats, and to my horror, my case, the case that I bought specifically to 
fit on these darn things, did not fit under those single seats! The only thing 
that saved my horn from the claws of the trained monkeys was the fact that it 
BARELY fit under the double seats, so when nobody was looking I snatched one of 
the roomier seats. The point of this lengthy anecdote is I was wondering if 
there is a better flight case
than the MB5? I've heard that the MB3 clamshell style fits, even though it's 
not technically a flight case. I have to fly back in a couple of weeks, and I 
just hope that there is another open seat that I can sneak into. Oh, and they 
lost my luggage too. Not that I'm bitter or anything...

Thanks for the help,
Nick Hartman



  
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Franz Welser-M?st Comments

[Chris Tedesco]

I noticed that Herr Pizka's emails to the list were coming into my spam box.  
I'm not totally sure why but I know a lot of filters will put any "foreign" 
based emails directly there as part of spam protection, so I'd guess that is 
why.  You can mark it as non spam but it will likely enter your main inbox 
rather than any hornlist folder you have set up to wrangle the hornlist emails.

Having said that, I noticed a lot of the emails come in without text as well, 
so it probably doesn't matter what folder it ends up in in that case:)

Chris

- Original Message 
From: Paul Rincon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; The Horn List 

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:13:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Franz Welser-M?st Comments

Hans, your messages are still being 'swallowed' up and don't show at all, at
least on my computer...



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Re: [Hornlist] Alessio Allegrini - Strauss 2

[Chris Tedesco]

I love how he is described as "mythic" by the poster, certainly appropriate!

Chris

- Original Message 
From: "Pandolfi, Orlando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Horn List 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:56:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Alessio Allegrini - Strauss 2

Alessio is a wonderful talent.  I heard him as a teenager when I was
playing and teaching in Rome. I know he would be something special.  He
is a very musical player. I believe he was a student of Luciano
Giuliani.

Orlando

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:46 PM
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Subject: [Hornlist] Alessio Allegrini - Strauss 2

I have just been pointed towards this clip on youtube:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZGtT6iPM0E&feature=related_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZGtT6iPM0E&feature=related) 

I've never heard of him before - we should hear more.

Cheers,

Lawrence

lawrenceyates.co.uk



  
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[Hornlist] Alex flipper wrench

[Chris Tedesco]

Hello hornlist,

I can't seem to find the wrench for my flipper anywhere.  If I wanted to get a 
replacement at a hardware store, what size should I look for?

Chris



  

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[Hornlist] FS: Hausotte Mute

[Chris Tedesco]

Before I list elsewhere, I wanted let the lists know that I am selling a medium 
taper Hausotte mute in excellent condition.  The mute is tunable and the cork 
is in perfect condition.  From what I understand, these mutes are no longer 
being made may soon be a rare item. I am asking $105 including domestic 
shipping..

Chris Tedesco
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
937.367.7394




 

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[Hornlist] FS: MB2 Case, Mouthpeices, and more!

[Chris Tedesco]

Apologies in advance for the double post!

I am having a garage sale of horn stuff:


Osmun Vienna Cup with 10 bore and gold plated Vienna Rim in great Condition:  
65$  

NEW Stork Custom Froydis Model mouthpiece with an Alexander Shank:  75$

Lawson S660 Cup in good condition:  55$

Lawson L35X80 Rim in good condition:  50$

Seiko ST-1100 Chromatic Tuner in great condition:  65$  (I believe this model 
is discontinued, but here are the details http://preview.tinyurl.com/2sv6cj)

Slightly damaged but otherwise fully functional Marcus Bonna fixed bell MB2 
horn case in black cordura with shoulder strap:  $275

The upper left ring has broken off and I have worn the case on my back with 
both of the straps attached to the right ring.  The shoulder strap component is 
not damaged.  

Michael Hoeltzel - Mastery of the French Horn:  Technique and musical 
expression:  20$

Pictures available offlist to interested parties and all prices include 
domestic shipping.  

Removing horn from the subject will get the email right to my inbox but is not 
necessary.

Chris




   
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Re: [Hornlist] Messiaen Appel Interstellaire

[Chris Tedesco]

I'm not sure if this is legal, (prolly not), but I knew a colleague in the past 
who copied out the horn solo by hand from the full score in lieu of a seperate 
publication for the horn solo portion of the piece.  If you're on a budget...

Chris

- Original Message 
From: Steve Haflich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Horn List ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2007 2:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Messiaen Appel Interstellaire 

   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   Short of plunking down 120 bucks for a full score, does anyone know where
   I can legally get a copy of this part from Des Canyons aux Etoiles?

Yes.

The Library of Congress has it.  Probably other first-class music
libraries also have it.  Most first-class music libraries have
catalogs online, but since you know your geographical location and I
don't, I'll leave searching them to you.
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Re: [Hornlist] Professional Cleaning

[Chris Tedesco]

I have seen them going as high as 4500 for ones' in good shape with 4000 being 
the mean.  It's a great horn but a little too huge for me:)

Chris


- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2007 12:03:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Professional Cleaning

 
In a message dated 2/1/2007 9:09:18 AM Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Any  thoughts on if I should clean
the horn and how, and if there is any  difference to mainaining an
unlaquered horn as opposed to a laquered  one?  Also, any thoughts on the
value of an 862 in good shape?   Thanks in advance.

Ryan 




Hi Ryan,
 
IMHO, the 862 was one of the best (if not the best) horns 
Yamaha has built.  I don't know why they discontinued it.
I would have a competent repair shop check the horn for 
air leaks, do a sonic cleaning, restring and check rotor 
registration and appraise the rotor and bearing fit.  In other 
words, "service it".  I would not hesitate to send it to one 
of the several shops that are experts in horn repair  many 
of whom are frequent contributors to this list.  The horn is a 
professional level horn and it deserves a complete physical 
and servicing by a qualified horn pro  .. IMHO.
 
Once serviced, you can be confident that any playing problems 
are the fault of the soft stuff north of the mpc and are not related 
to the instrument.
 
BTW, don't be surprised if someone offers $3000 (or more) for an 
862 in good to excellent condition.
 
Just my two cents worth.
 
Best regards,Jerry in Kansas City  
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[Hornlist] Buying an Alexander mouthpiece online

[Chris Tedesco]

Hi all, 

I'm looking to purchase an Alexander mouthpiece online and I have had a hard 
time finding sites that carry them, let alone from companies based in the US.  
I am aware of a retailer in the US that supplies Alexander horns and would 
easily be able to order one but I am unwilling to patronize them.  While I 
would prefer a US based company for shipping reasons, I am not opposed to 
ordering internationally if that is the only way possible.  

Also, if I were interested in purchasing a mouthpiece made by Tilz, aside from 
purchasing directly, if anyone knows of a retailer that I can order from 
online, I would greatly appreciate the help!  

Thanks much in advance,
Chris Tedesco




 

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Re: [Hornlist] tenor

[Chris Tedesco]

hahahaha This has to be a joke.  He might want to check the text of some of 
these arias...

Chris



- Original Message 
From: Klaus Bjerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Horn List 
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] tenor


--- hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Go & visit the following site to get your surprise:
> www.tenor.dk
> 
> There are a lot folks out  - without any self critic.

This is sad!

Even more so as this guy is born in and lives in the town, where I lived, when 
we moved back to
Denmark in 1958. I lived there until I took, what the Germans call Arbitur in 
1966. 

My very old father still lives there in the same house. He has organised a lot 
of concerts over
the years, but it is too late night right now to phone him and ask him about 
this impostor.

This guy must be around my age, but I never heard of him, even if we were in 
the same town at the
same time. And even if I was in the best of two bands and in the only (small) 
orchestra. The town
of Holbæk was rather small back then, which is no longer the case, as it has 
developed into a
housing area for Copenhagen.

In 1990-91 I returned as 4th horn in a really large musical project. That man 
certainly was not
asked to sing there.

Holbæk used to be the home of another impostor, which is far more dangerous, 
because he is our
minister of culture. Sadly sports belong to that department, and that is the 
only part of his
portfolio, which that man has any idea about.

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre

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Re: [Hornlist] garland

[Chris Tedesco]

Could you possibly be referring to the metal-shattering sound when played at ff 
or fff ? :)

I have heard of a few people who overcame this by using a non-original bell, 
has anyone else had this experience?

Chris

- Original Message 
From: hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Horn List 
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:54:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] garland

Off course. It is not my maker of my double horns.
Mr.Worischek, who makes horns in the traditional way, even
the bell is cut, it is cut off the long, one piece bell (one
piece from valve section to the very end.

No, I spoke of another very prominent maker not far from my
place. His craftsmanship is without any doubt, but his
concept (of tone) is wrong totally.
=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pandolfi, Orlando
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:05 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] garland

Thank you Hans.  I have seen the page, and I have seen the
process live in other shops.  I am with you in my preference
for the bells made in the manner described, but there are
certainly many who prefer spun bells. I do not own one of
your horns or flares (although a Viennese horn is on my
"wish list"..I wrote to you offlist a while ago) nor do I
have any reason to doubt what you say.  Nevertheless, I can
only relate my own experience with my own old flares, and my
conversations with various horn makers, which is what I
think I did in my last post.

I am curious about your last comment: 

"And, by the way, this maker's bells are thin anyway, so
extremely sensitive against impact, and his horns make bad
noise if played loudly, no matter if thee is a garland on
the bell or not. We recognized his horns in all auditions to
the disadvantage of the respective candidates." 

When you say "this maker", it sounds as though you are
referring to the fellow on your web page, Mr. Robert
Worischek.  I doubt that is whom you meant to criticize,
since it appears he makes your horns.  Would you please
clarify your comment to those of us who might have
misunderstood about whom you are speaking?

I wish you a joyous and healthy New Year.

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Re: [Hornlist] Elders resource

[Chris Tedesco]

My undergrad has a very successful and popular New Horizons band.  Many of the 
musicians have become quite talented, spending many hours a day practicing.  
They treat student conductors with respect (rara avis) and show a lot of 
dedication and enthusiasm.  The age limits can be somewhat flexible as well 
("We dont' check ID" is what I read in a article about the program at my alma 
mater).  If you or anyone you know is interested in re-learning their 
instrument or learning to play first time, NHB is definetly the place to start.

Chris

- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:20:57 AM
Subject: [Hornlist] Elders resource

Recently, a seasoned citizen wrote asking for help and ideas for reintering 
music and playing the horn.  There is an organization at 
www.newhorizonsmusic.org that addresses this need for elders 50 years and 
better that are reintering or starting  
music interests.  My browser won't let me in to the site so maybe some one with 
a more cooperative computer can advise the list of the site usefullness.

Note  boycot shampoo.  Demand real poo.
William Botte 


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[Hornlist] FS Complete set of Absent Soloist CD

[Chris Tedesco]

Firstly, pardon to all for the double post.

I am selling a complete set of Absent Soloist CDs in New condition.  This 
includes all 4 Mozart horn concerti and Haydn 1.  
Normally priced at 135 Pounds, I'm selling the entire set for $130 including 
Express Mail (1-2 days most places.  Always been 1 day for me).  It would make 
a perfect holiday gift for any horn studio or enthusiast and will help me 
register for classes!

Please contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested.  If i 
have no interested parties, I will accept near offers  


Thanks,
Chris 

PS if you reply, please remove the [hornlist] or [horn] from the subject, as I 
have my hornlist mail filtered and I will be able to reply quicker.


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[Hornlist] Halliburton Horn Case?

[Chris Tedesco]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320007528549&category=16215


Never seen anything like this before.


Chris

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RE: [Hornlist] Airline Travel Blues

[Chris Tedesco]

Just last week, I flew to the thriving metropolis of Aztec, New Mexico with my
MB2.  For the less-geeky, that's the fixed bell model.

I heard from another student using that case for her "pre-103" 103 that they
fit in the overheards on the largest planes, but unfortunately I'll probably
never use one of them until I go abroad again.

It definetly didn't fit in the overheard on the bug squasher or the smaller jet
planes, but it fit underneath just fine.  There is a major caveat here in that
it cutsyour leg room down by about 1/3rd.

As Josh the goat below has mentioned previously on the list, I'm not exactly a
towering juggernaut, so I imagine that if I was annoyed by the further
reduction of my precious leg room, those of a more normal stature would be even
more cramped.  Having said that, I prefer the convenience(day to day, not
flying!) and sound of a fixed bell horn and knew that flying with such a horn
would be a pain, so I was well aware of the sacrifice I was making.  Were I
planning on flying more, I might look into cutting the bell.

Having said all that, don't let anyone say you can't fly with a cut bell!  You
can as long as you learn the bell trick to get the horn under the seats and
don't mind a little less leg room.  But you will mind a little less leg room. 
Trust me.  3 and half hours from SLC to CVG when the babies are crying, the
movie is showing with no sound since you have to buy headphones, the chips are
stales, the stewardess, I mean Flight attendant is being snotty.You'll
mind.


Chris

PS SNAKES ON A PLANE

--- Joshua Cheuvront <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah, the old Stradavarius trick!  I've also only had to use it once.  I was 
> boarding a puddle jumper bound for Fort Wayne, Indiana from Detroit- one of 
> those dual prop planes that only seats 14.  As we were boarding, there were 
> crew members on the tarmac taking everyone's carry-on's and tossing them 
> into the rear cargo bay.  When I told them that I had a French horn, one of 
> the attendants said "Oh, don't worry!  I played French Horn in sixth grade". 
>   I was actually more frightened by the prospect of someone who "thought" 
> they knew about my instrument handling my horn than someone who had no clue. 
>   I ended up convincing her that I'd flown on that particular model of plane 
> many times before and had never had a problem getting my Stradavarius horn 
> to fit (Marcus Bonna flight case MB5).  Once on the plane, it turned out 
> that the horn fit perfectly under the seat, actually with room to spare.
> 
> One little trick I've learned over the past few years is to choose a seat as 
> far to the rear of the plane as possible.  With the airlines I generally fly 
> with, this means I get to board right after first class.  This gives me my 
> pick of overhead bins, and gives me a chance to get my things stowed while 
> the attendants are busy with fussy first-classers and people trying to 
> upgrade at the last minute.  I've used this system twice in the past several 
> months flying with Delta and managed to take, on board, my horn, my laptop 
> bag, and a rolling carry-on.  Not once was I questioned, or even given a 
> second glance.  I try to blend in with the myriad of businessmen types.
> 
> Here's some other "tips" to not arouse suspicion:
> 1.  Don't pester the attendants at the gate before your flight with general 
> questions.  If you stand nearby and listen someone else will probably ask 
> the question for you.
> 2.  Have your boarding pass ready to go.  You have, or should have, at least 
> 1/2 an hour before your flight.  If you have more than one leg to your trip, 
> make sure you have the right one.
> 3.  Try to figure out some way to look like you don't have very many things. 
>   If you have a bunch of music/water bottles/etc. hanging off of your case 
> the attendants will stop you.
> 4.  If you check in at the airline ticket counter, sometimes the person 
> behind the counter will put some sort of tag on your case, even if you tell 
> them you intend to take it on board with you in the cabin.  This tag let's 
> the flight attendants know that your bag should go below in cargo.  It's 
> been a few years since I've been forced to check-in at the counter, but I 
> just removed the tag on the way to the gate.
> 5.  Be organized before you board the plane.  If you have things with you 
> that you'll want during the flight, know where they are, and put them 
> somewhere you can get to them right away.  Standing in the middle of the 
> aisle in everyone's way while you search frantically through your socks and 
> underwear for that new trash romance novel you brought is a great way to 
> attract attention (and other passengers resentment.
> 6.  If you manage to get a seat at the rear of the plane, you'll likely have 
> your pick when it comes to overhead compartments.  Some of the compartments 
> will be full (attendant luggage/pillows/blankets).  Try to find a 
> compartment across the isle from y

RE: [Hornlist] Horn Section Seating

[Chris Tedesco]

I too much prefer the block.  I've played in sections up front and in back and
think it makes hearing a lot easier both ways compared to playing in line. 
Having said that, I think the problem is that in line sections are usually too
closely packed and muffle itself.  Adding more space between each other and
making sure that bells aren't being muffled by yourself or your colleague to
the right improve hearing and ultimately improve the sound of the section. 
Easily solved by playing off the leg:)

Chris

--- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I like sitting in a block rather than a straight line. I think the
> section hears each other better. As the principal, I can say I
> definitely hear the section better.
> 
> If I have correctly read your post, it seems you have a conductor who
> thinks the horn bells need to point to the audience. This seems to be a
> trend, especially in bands. I think they are just trying to make the
> horns easier to hear in the very thick band sonority. In my opinion,
> pointing the bell at the audience takes some of the character of the
> horn sound away. If the conductor is trying to get the horns from the
> center of the band, I would rather see them moved stage left
> 
> Richard Smith
> www.rgsmithmusic.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Bill Gross
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:24 AM
> To: 'The Horn List'
> Subject: [Hornlist] Horn Section Seating
> 
> I have joined a local community band after many years of not playing.
> We have, what is to me, an unusual seating arrangement.  
> 
> Horns are at the conductors left in two rows, first and second row one,
> third and fourth row two.  Since we are a community organization we
> usually
> have two sometimes more players on a part.  
> 
> If the formatting holds, it looks like this.
> 
> Conductor
> Flutes
> Horns:2b2a1b1a
> Horns:4b4a3b3a
> 
> "a" indicates the senior musician with 1a the principal horn.  1a and 3a
> are
> on the edge of the group with their bells pointed at the audience.
> 
> So the question, anyone else seen this type of arrangement?  It makes it
> hard for me playing either in the 3b or 4a position to hear the other
> horns
> and blend with them.
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Recovering after Break

[Chris Tedesco]

Leave it all at home.

Enjoy your vacation   You will appreciate the horn a lot more when you
have a some time living a normal life in contrast.  

Whatever you lose in your chops will be made up 10x in your mind:)


Chris
--- Benjamin Reidhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello - 
>   I'd like to jump in on this thread and ask a question - I am 
> going to be forced to take 3 weeks off of playing due to a vacation (I 
> won't be able to take my horn along).  However, I am able to bring a 
> mouthpiece and tone generator, etc. along.  Any ideas of what I could 
> do during those 3 weeks to prevent my chops from _completely_ dying 
> when I come back?  I am going to try to visit music shops, etc. in an 
> attempt to play different horns (than what is available here), but 
> other than that, I won't be playing at all. 
> Ben
> 
> 
> Benjamin Reidhead
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Poudre School District, Ft. Collins, Co.
> 
> "No opera plot can be sensible, 
> for people do not sing when 
> they are feeling sensible."
> 
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[Hornlist] Strange Mouthpiece on eBay

[Chris Tedesco]

http://tinyurl.com/mujlz   

Anyone ever seen or heard of these before?

Chris

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Re: [Hornlist] accentare ogni nota?

[Chris Tedesco]

Vuol dire Accent every note!

Chris

--- Mark Syslo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Charles Chaynes 15 Etudes for horn
> #VIII
> accentare ogni nota
> 
> What does that mean?
> 
> 
> MJS
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RE: [Hornlist] Pressure device and excess pressure

[Chris Tedesco]

I was just about to say that!  Even thinner than the Pizka is the Osmun Vienna
rim.  Also available in smaller inner diameters.  Takes a little getting used
to at first but now I can't play much else because it feels like it's
inhibiting vibration.  


Chris

--- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have you considered a mouthpiece with a thinner rim?  I recently started
> playing with one of Hans Pizka's and, although I'm still adapting, one of
> the first things I noticed was that my endurance was better, and from what I
> understand of these things (which is precious little) it's likely that the
> thinner rim translates into less pressure being possible, so one has no
> choice but to play with less pressure.
> 
> Just a thought from a novice player, hope it's of some help to you.
> 
> -S- 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:24 PM
> > To: horn@music.memphis.edu
> > Subject: [Hornlist] Pressure device and excess pressure
> > 
> > hello all-
> > 
> > I was wondering if anyone knows the best/cheapest place to 
> > buy one of those pressure devices (I think they're called 
> > Alexander Pressure Devices)?   
> > I burrowed one a few years ago when I had a massive battle to 
> > get rid of extreme excess pressure and it helped a lot.  But 
> > recently I took a few days completely off after a local 
> > regional symphony audition and since then have felt real 
> > stiff and been straining in the high register.  I think 
> > unconsciously when I tried to jump back into playing a lot 
> > after a break I was compensating with too much pressure, and 
> > I don't want awful bad habits to return.  
> > 
> > Have people found these useful as a periodic check to ensure 
> > bad habits don't creep back? I am pretty good about not 
> > letting pressure creep in, but I played with too much for 
> > many, many years and it still tries to creep in now and then,.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Dave Meichle
> > Lawrence University
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Hornlist] Bill McHenry/Raleigh/IBM is on vacation returning Thu, May 25th

[Chris Tedesco]

Wouldn't be spring if we didn't get this email :)

Chris

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> 
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[Hornlist] FS: Clebsch Strap

[Chris Tedesco]

Apologies for the double post in advance.  

I have a near-new, used for 1 month condition Clebsch Strap for sale for $35
including shipping.  I accept and prefer paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but
accept Check/MO.  

Thanks,
Chris Tedesco
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [Hornlist] Works for Horn and Flute

[Chris Tedesco]

Hmm, trite and vapid come to my mind before beautiful :) De gustibus et cetera

Flame suit on,
Chris



--- Christine Ranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mr Ewazen's music is so beautiful.
> 
> 
> >From: "Russ Smiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Horn List 
> >To: "'Linda'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'The Horn List'" 
> >
> >Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Works for Horn and Flute
> >Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 20:59:56 -0400
> >
> >I'll second Linda's recommendation.  This is a challenging but very
> >rewarding and accessible work.  The Pastorale is simply gorgeous.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >Linda
> >Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:49 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Horn List
> >Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Works for Horn and Flute
> >
> >Ballade, Pastorale and Dance for flute, horn, and piano by Eric Ewazen.
> >Sound clips and a sample of the score are available at
> >http://www.ericewazen.com/newsite/music/balladehorn.html
> >
> >Linda
> >
> >-Original Message-
> > >From: Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: May 8, 2006 7:21 PM
> > >To: 'The Horn List' 
> > >Subject: [Hornlist] Works for Horn and Flute
> > >
> > >Any list members aware of any works for horn and flute?
> > >
> > >I am very fortunate to have been invited to a through back event a 
> >retired
> > >flute teacher in the area host a monthly "soiree" at her home once a 
> >month.
> > >The way people found entertainment and friendship before the advent of
> > >passive devices such as radio and tv.
> > >
> > >The retired teacher invites mainly flute players, but others to drop in
> >once
> > >a month and play for the others.  A modest fee covers the cost of the
> > >accompanist, supper and wine.  We spend a couple of hours listening to 
> >each
> > >other play, then break bread and have great conversation.  It is not that
> > >far from nirvana.
> > >
> > >She asked if there were any works for horn and flute.
> > >
> > >
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RE: [Hornlist] Re: Conductors, and Ensemble Personalities

[Chris Tedesco]

Play it more "transparent!"

Chris

--- Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Having been in the situation of rehearsing under a conductor who would go
> into long discourse about the back ground of a piece of music, who
> commissioned it, why this or that part was important to the person who
> commissioned the work and so forth, I was reminded of a story attributed to
> Farkas at the CSO.  They were rehearsing some work with a guest conductor
> who told Farkas, "imagine you are on one side of a valley and your girl
> friend is in a house on the opposite side when you play this."  To the
> Frakas responded, "do you want me to play it louder or softer?"
> 
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[Hornlist] Russell Mahler

[Chris Tedesco]

Anyone seen the Ken Russell Mahler movie?  Some interesting depictions of
Kokoshka and Alma  

Chris



--- "Richard V. West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rachel:
> 
> One correction: although Mahler's children did die (shortly after the 
> "Kindertotenlieder" was composed- it was prophetic!), his wife, Alma 
> Mahler, survived him to consort with the expressionist painter Oskar 
> Kokoschka, later marrying the architect Walter Gropius, then finally 
> wedding Franz Werfel, the author of "The Song of Bernadette." Alma was 
> also a sculptor and her bust of Arnold Schoenberg (also a friend from 
> Vienna) is (or was) in the lobby of Schoenberg Hall at UCLA. She wrote 
> an autobiography that is absolutely fascinating. What a woman!
> 
> Richard in Seattle
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > ...Everything after Mahler 5 was done in its particular 'style'  because of
> the tragic demise of Mahler's wife and children...
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Re: [Hornlist] flight cases/correction

[Chris Tedesco]

Hmm..  That line that says "the music pocket holds me" sh ould read "holds more
music". i.e. fits the entire folder whereas the MB sticks out.


Chris

--- Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I flew to and from all of grad auditions as well as my trip to Italy in the
> summer and it was fine.  The TE cases offer some advantages to the MB cases. 
> Lower price and availability make them the best choice for those on a budget.
> 
> Other advantages are that the music pocket holds me and overall the case is
> lighter than the MB.  The few downsides are that it looks like a Ninja Turtle
> shell and you can't hold mutes in it.  YOu can easily attach them with mute
> bags though.  
> 
> Chris
> 
> --- Jen Gesinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have one of David Thompson's standard cut bell cases and it works
> > fine for my 10D.  
> > 
> > JEN
> > 
> > --- Nicholas Hartman Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
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> > > carry it on buses and planes. I'm looking very hard at the Marcus
> > > Bonna cases, particularly the MB5 because It is my impression that
> > > this particular modelis the only one that can fit through carry on
> > > frames on airlines. Is this true, or are there other, more resonably
> > > priced cases by different makers that can do the same? 
> > > 
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Re: [Hornlist] Bells Up

[Chris Tedesco]

The short answer is,he way I play bells up is that I merely rotate the bell up
into the air, but not so much that it distorts how the horn feels on my face
greatly or puts the bell into my colleague's ear.  

There is on major caveat, and that is, I play pretty much off the leg all the
time.  (I put it on the leg for certain passages that I think benefit from the
cover).  That makes rotating the bell higher relatively easy and easy on the
face.  

Having said that, everyone is different and frankly there are a lot of horn
players who hate playing bells up and only do so if prompted by the conductor. 
I've seen professional orchestra sections who merely play off the leg for bells
up and IMHO don't quite get the true character of the sound.  

Then there is the otherside, who think bells up means to play with a bad sound
for the effect.  I think this is also a bit misguided.  While the more rough
nature of the sound and the fairly immediate increase in volume are part of the
effect, I think it's more important to play in tune and balanced and if that
means cutting down on the volume a little, so be it.  

The long answer is that how I play bells up depends on the lick I'm using it
for.  Sometimes the passaged asked to be bells up will be just a few notes in
part of a longer lick and moving at all can be detrimental to the music, so you
have to get that character but with bells down and on just a few notes.  Other
times, bells up can be too much for the ensemble and just playing off the leg
as a group is enough to give the character of the sound on a smaller scale.  

But don't forget the times when a real bells up is not a detriment to the
quality and just doesn't sound right any other way.  
Chris
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Howdy, horn gurus!
>  
> In a "bells up" section of Bernstein's Jeremiah, our conductor  tonight 
> explained that we horns should be holding our instruments in a such  a way
> that 
> would require additional people (maybe small children or midgets) to 
> actually 
> work the valves. I think he's crazy, but he's been right about stuff 
> before...
>  
> Could someone please pass along a clear description of how to hold the horn  
> during "bells up," especially in works that pack a lot of punch like Mahler?
> I 
>  need to see if he's crazy or we are.
>  
> Thanks,
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Re: [Hornlist] flight cases

[Chris Tedesco]

I flew to and from all of grad auditions as well as my trip to Italy in the
summer and it was fine.  The TE cases offer some advantages to the MB cases. 
Lower price and availability make them the best choice for those on a budget. 
Other advantages are that the music pocket holds me and overall the case is
lighter than the MB.  The few downsides are that it looks like a Ninja Turtle
shell and you can't hold mutes in it.  YOu can easily attach them with mute
bags though.  

Chris

--- Jen Gesinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have one of David Thompson's standard cut bell cases and it works
> fine for my 10D.  
> 
> JEN
> 
> --- Nicholas Hartman Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am considering having the bell of my 10D cut so I can more easily
> > carry it on buses and planes. I'm looking very hard at the Marcus
> > Bonna cases, particularly the MB5 because It is my impression that
> > this particular modelis the only one that can fit through carry on
> > frames on airlines. Is this true, or are there other, more resonably
> > priced cases by different makers that can do the same? 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Hornlist] NHR - orchspeak

[Chris Tedesco]

Hmm, I and most of my music student colleagues tend to say just everything like
we would Mahler 5.  The apostrophe and the possessive are too many syllables.

Chris

--- David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Am I imagining it?  We say "Beethoven's 5th", we say "Schumann's 4th", 
> we say "Mozart's 40th",...  But we say "Mahler 5".  What happened to the 
> apostrophe and the possessive?
> 
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Pieta, Signore!

[Chris Tedesco]

Oh God, it's like undergrad recital hour all over again!

Il mio bel fuoco,
Chris

--- David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Steve Freides wrote:
> > Twenty-Four Italian Song and Arias of the Seventeenth and Eighteenth
> Century
> > 
> > It's published by G. Schirmer, and there is an edition for medium-low voice
> > and another for medium-high).  It's in D-minor in one and A-minor in the
> > other, concert pitch, of course, as it's for voice and piano.  Some of
> these
> > songs appear in more than one collection - not sure if this appears
> > elsewhere but this collection is a mainstay of vocal teachers everywhere.
> > Wonderful stuff for beginning singers.
> 
> And wonderful stuff for horn players.  The biggest problem is the 
> absence of a separable singer's part, so you have nasty page turns. 
> Alfred Pub. has essentially the same book, except it is 26 songs, not 
> 24.  You can get this book, and others like it, with an included CD of 
> piano accompaniment.  I tend toward the "Low Voice" version of vocal 
> books, because in many cases that makes it possible to transpose up (to 
> C) instead of down.  Begin your day with a rousing "Per la gloria 
> d'adoravi" or "Alma del core".  Even your neighbors will comment.
> 
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[Hornlist] Funny Horn Ad

[Chris Tedesco]

This ad contains no oogling, only a funny description!   

http://www.hornsaplenty.com/content/view/79/31/



Chris 

PS If any horn is bling, it's this one :)
http://www.hornsaplenty.com/content/view/78/31/  

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[Hornlist] Wichita Band

[Chris Tedesco]

Recently I was in contact with Wichita Band about possibly purchasing a new
Alexander horn.  

They did not stock the options I wanted and their next shipment of horns was
already paid-for.  I was told that I was to be contacted the next day with
availability and price information for the options I wanted and, as I
understood it, that if I ended up buying a horn, I may be able to get it faster
by putting down a fully refundable $200 deposit that day and I would be called
the next day to make a decision.  

I was not called back to this day and a few weeks ago, I recieved a bill in the
mail for a new horn!

I called WB and had the "order" that I supposedly made cancelled and was told
that it would be a few days to have my deposit refunded.  

Nearly 3 weeks later, the deposit had not been refunded and I called again to
see what the deal was.

I spoke to the salesmen with whom I spoke on my first call and he said he
clearly remembered that I "bought" the horn from them and more or less told me
that I was wrong. 

I then inquired about when I could get my deposit back and I was told their
policy is that they do returns 3 weeks after the request has been put in.
(remember that I was told on the phone from another salesperson that it would
only be a few days.  I just returned a pair of shoes that broke and the money
was back in my account in about 2-3 days)

 At this point, the deposit should back into my account around the middle of
next week, so that's probably as good as I could hope for, but I feel VERY
deceived and almost tricked into buying a horn.  

I must add this though:  The second person I spoke to on the phone, with whom I
cancelled my "order", was absolutely professional, curteous, and was just
totally cool about the whole thing.  



/end rant,
Chris



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[Hornlist] FS: Fixed bell Pro-Tec Gig Bag

[Chris Tedesco]

Get it now before it goes up on Ebay.   In as new condition with unused
backback straps.  $90 obo +reasonable shipping.

Chris Tedesco
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn and SQ5

[Chris Tedesco]

I've heard Mozart work well with a string quartet as accompaniment.  I think
there is also a version of the horn quintet for horn and string quartet, (as
opposed to 2 violas, violin and cello).

Chris

--- Gary Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A non-horn list colleague of mine asked me last night if I knew of any 
> pieces for horn and standard string quartet.  My offerings were very 
> limited, and I lack the time right now to go look things up for him.  Any of 
> you able to supply some repertoire off the tops of your heads over the next 
> couple of days?
> 
> Many thanks in advance.
> 
> Gary Greene
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[Hornlist] FS: Lawson P10G 690 Rim and F660 Cup

[Chris Tedesco]

Apologies for the double post in advance.  I just posted the above mentioned
Lawson mouthpiece on ebay!  Urls below:


http://cgi.ebay.com/Lawson-P10G-690-Rim-Used-French-Horn-Mouthpiece-Rim_W0QQitemZ7405333299QQcategoryZ620QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://tinyurl.com/e5yuq

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lawson-F660-Cup-Goldplate-Used-French-Horn-Mouthpiece_W0QQitemZ7405336602QQcategoryZ620QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://tinyurl.com/k5rz6


Thanks,
Chris

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[Hornlist] Rittich Style Mutes

[Chris Tedesco]

I've played on a Hausotte mute for 6 yesrs and love it.  I really enjoy the
sizzle in the sound but I find that blending with others is much easier with a
Rittich style mute because well that's what the majority of horn players that
I've played with have used.

Having said that, I'm considering purchasing a mute of this style for
situations where it would fit the section better and I am seeking suggestions
on which models to consider.  

I will say this, I do NOT like TrumCor mutes, so no need for the deluge of
TrumCor responses.  (Ok, it's not so much that I don't like them but I know
already that I prefer the Lewis mute over the TrumCor)

The only maker I have had any experience with is the Lewis mute (which I
liked), but I have heard ordering directly can somtimes be an adventure.  Aside
from TrumCor, I'm can't think of makers of this style of mute.  

Where should I start?



Thanks in advance as always,
Chris Tedesco

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RE: [Hornlist] NHR - Must experience this!

[Chris Tedesco]

Maybe this kid's a descendent of Farinelli?  

Oh wait, nevermind:)

Chris

--- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> David Goldberg wrote:
>  
> > A 12 year old boy singing the Queen of the Night's aria.
> > Don't try this at home.
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBXf9rdyJKM
> 
> I have seen this clip already.  The person who sent it to me observed, "I've
> paid good money to hear this done much worse."
> 
> -S-
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RE: [Hornlist] French Horn "sayings"

[Chris Tedesco]

You forgot the missed notes!  

Chris
--- "Hans.Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  ("Hoernertraeger,
> viele Schwaeger !" on special coins from Count Ludwig VIII.
> from Hessen-Darmstadt (1739-68)
> 
> Or "Le Nozze di Figaro"  - fare le corna  - tukatah -
> tukatah - tukatah !! Insiders understand.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of David Goldberg
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 7:13 AM
> To: The Horn List
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] French Horn "sayings"
> 
> Isaiah 16:1
>   fill thine horn with oil, and go
> 
> Job 16:15
>   I have sewed sackcloth upon my skin, and defiled my horn
> in the dust.
> 
> Psalms 75:5
>   Lift not up your horn on high: speak not with a stiff
> neck.
> 
> Psalms 75:10
>   All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the
> horns of the righteous shall be exalted.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [Hornlist] Barry Tuckwell

[Chris Tedesco]

Actually he "came back" a few years ago and was subbing with Baltimore.  I
think I recently heard that he is now back in Australia teaching.


Chris

--- Simon Twigge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Perhaps it was a reference to his retirement from playing which is a loss
> really!
> 
> Simon 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Omar
> Kolaghassi
> Sent: 13 March 2006 18:52
> To: Horn list
> Subject: [Hornlist] Barry Tuckwell
> 
> Hey everyone,
>
>   I was listening to my classical station a few days ago when they announced
> they would air a concerto played by Barry Tuckwell who unfortunately was
> lost to us a couple weeks or years agoI was out of the horn scene for
> about a year, so did he die in that span of a year when I wasn't following
> this?
>
>   Michael Kolaghassi
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Re: [Hornlist] things on my horn

[Chris Tedesco]

Ashtray!

Chris

and a string connected to your spit valve

--- Jerry Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark Syslo wrote:
> > I was looking at my horn during pit practice last night, and realized
> > I have 
> > several things "hanging" from it.  I have a hand guard, Alex flipper,
> > Berp, 
> > and a pencil holder.  What's left?  
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Hoeltzel Book

[Chris Tedesco]

I think most of these are available in his large book.  Unfortunately I can't
remember what it's called and I believe that it is completely in German.  (not
that it matters for the cadenzas)  

If you read German, I imagine that the book is quite useful, as it contains all
kinds of good stuff.  From what I understand, other translations of the book
are in progress but not in any hurry.  

Chris

--- Paul Mansur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Further, some years back, there was a bunch of cadenzas by Michael 
> Hoeltzel circulated rather widely.  I seem to recall that they were 
> sent out with a HORN CALL in the late 70's or early 80's.  In any case 
> I remember mailing a bunch of them out.  I don't have in hand, now.
> 
> Paul Mansur
> 
> On Thursday, March 9, 2006, at 03:35 PM, Richard V. West wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >>   To be more clear, I am gathering information for a  possible 
> >> graduate paper. Any additional information would still be  
> >> appreciated.  V/R
> >>  Mike Rogers
> > Mike:
> >
> > For what it's worth, my hazily recall a couple of articles in the 
> > mid-seventiies (1974?) by Chris Leuba, I believe in "The 
> > Instrumentalist" or similar publication, in which he transcribed all 
> > the Mozart concerti cadenzas recorded up to that time, with 
> > commentary. Hopefully, you could find the reference in the  periodical 
> > index of your university library.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Richard West
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RE: [Hornlist] Good F horns.

[Chris Tedesco]

Check their Non-US sites.  It's up somewhere, you just have to dig a little.

Chris

--- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Didn't Yamaha make a Vienna horn?  A quick look on their site didn't find it
> for me now but I recall reading about it somewhere.  Don't know what the
> price was, either.
> 
> I know a Vienna horn does not equal a more standard single F horn but ...
> 
> -S- 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > du] On Behalf Of WIlliam Botte
> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:53 PM
> > To: horn@music.memphis.edu
> > Subject: [Hornlist] Good F horns.
> > 
> > Mr. Mumford asks a good question.  The lack of good, or, even 
> > more precise; Why the lack of quality, professional grade F horns.
> > The Brasswinds catalogue lists many "student" model F horns, 
> > yet no Pro F horns.  They may also sell the 3/4 wrap kiddee 
> > horns, excellent for marching band, god forbid, I pitched the 
> > catalogue?
> > A reasonably priced, around $2,ooo.oo, pro grade F horn would 
> > a reasonable investment for a students first horn.  If not 
> > damaged and maintained properly, the resale could help 
> > finance the purchase of a pro double when the student needs 
> > to move on.
> > Notice I said, needs.  Today and tomorrow, our orchestra is 
> > performing Tchaikowskis fiddle concerto, Finlandia and other 
> > less exciting pieces.  
> > The horn parts could easily be performed on F horns.
> > If real quality, well slotted intervals, unstuffy F horns 
> > were available the need for expensive doubles could avoided.
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Re: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips

[Chris Tedesco]

A nice warm up and warm down.  

Chris

(Chopsaver may help too)


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>  
> Thanks,
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RE: [Hornlist] NHR - The Magic Flute Explained

[Chris Tedesco]

Couldn't you just say that a Singspiel is a genre of opera? 

Chris

--- "Hans.Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The story of a classical or baroque opera is not important
> at all. It is the same quality (often) as have soap operas
> today in the TV world. But that times operas were more or
> less arias, duets, ensembles & choirs & interludes rowed up
> in a more or less given order. The singing & playing was
> more important than any story behind.
> 
> By the wy, Magic Flute is not an opera, it is a "Singspiel",
> a play with music & singing, so the story might count a bit
> more that usual in that time back 200 years+ .
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Horn List
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] NHR - The Magic Flute Explained
> 
> If this interests you, I highly suggest Jacques Chailley's
> "The Magic Flute
> Unveiled: Esoteric symbolism in Mozart's Masonic Opera".  
> 
> The only gripe I have with the book is that some of the
> things that the author intereprets as symbolism could
> probably be taken cum grano salis.  It seemed like every
> little possible numeric grouping was a symbol.  Having said
> that, his theory as to why the opera seems to flip the
> good/bad characters seems reasonable unlike some of his
> other claims in the book.  
> 
> While I haven't read them yet, I was told that H.C. Robbins
> Landon's "Mozart's Last year" and I think "The Golden Years"
> are a good resource for those interested in the Magic Flute.
> Another book that I understand has a good deal of
> information about the Magic Flute is Paul Nettl's "Mozart
> and Masonry"  (The Chailley critiques the Nettl in a number
> of areas)
> 
> 
> 
> Chris
> (Not related much to the Magic Flute, but Maynard Solomon's
> Mozart biography is a great read!)
> --- Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > My wife and I went to see "Magic Flute" Sunday by the
> Dallas Opera.
> > Afterward we were musing over the plot development.
> Specifically it 
> > was the way Tamino changes loyalties at the drop of a hat
> (from Queen 
> > of the Night to Sarastro).  I asked a friend living in New
> York 
> > (really enjoys opera) to explain this.  I was expecting
> exposition of 
> > plots not fully developed on stage etc.  Instead I got
> this; I think you might enjoy it.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > He's a basso (Sarastro), and everyone knows they have more
> credibility 
> > than sopranos who hit high notes like that.  Those are
> obviously 
> > Wicked Women, and Wizards are much more credible than
> that.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Opera logic.  Besides, Tamino's no mental giant.  All
> those vibrations 
> > in his
> > 
> > head from being a tenor, as Bing used to say.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
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Re: [Hornlist] NHR - The Magic Flute Explained

[Chris Tedesco]

If this interests you, I highly suggest Jacques Chailley's "The Magic Flute
Unveiled: Esoteric symbolism in Mozart's Masonic Opera".  

The only gripe I have with the book is that some of the things that the author
intereprets as symbolism could probably be taken cum grano salis.  It seemed
like every little possible numeric grouping was a symbol.  Having said that,
his theory as to why the opera seems to flip the good/bad characters seems
reasonable unlike some of his other claims in the book.  

While I haven't read them yet, I was told that H.C. Robbins Landon's "Mozart's
Last year" and I think "The Golden Years" are a good resource for those
interested in the Magic Flute.  Another book that I understand has a good deal
of information about the Magic Flute is Paul Nettl's "Mozart and Masonry"  (The
Chailley critiques the Nettl in a number of areas)



Chris
(Not related much to the Magic Flute, but Maynard Solomon's Mozart biography is
a great read!)
--- Bill Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My wife and I went to see "Magic Flute" Sunday by the Dallas Opera.
> Afterward we were musing over the plot development.  Specifically it was the
> way Tamino changes loyalties at the drop of a hat (from Queen of the Night
> to Sarastro).  I asked a friend living in New York (really enjoys opera) to
> explain this.  I was expecting exposition of plots not fully developed on
> stage etc.  Instead I got this; I think you might enjoy it.
> 
>  
> 
> He's a basso (Sarastro), and everyone knows they have more credibility than
> sopranos who hit high notes like that.  Those are obviously Wicked Women,
> and Wizards are much more credible than that.
> 
>  
> 
> Opera logic.  Besides, Tamino's no mental giant.  All those vibrations in
> his
> 
> head from being a tenor, as Bing used to say.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Alex lubricant

[Chris Tedesco]

While we're on the subject, does anyone know if the grease in the syringe is
the same as the grease in the tub?  (for Hetman)


Chris

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 2/17/2006 10:10:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Does anyone happen to know what the Alex factory actually uses?  
> --
> Nelson,
> 
> If it's a new Alex, then they almost certainly delivered it with Hetman 
> lubricants.  Alexander uses Josef Meinlschmitt valves, and J.M. uses Hetman. 
> Same 
> is true of Rauch, Ricco Kuehn, and others who use Meinlschmitt to make their 
> "machines".   
> 
> Dave Weiner
> Maryland Band & Orchestra
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[Hornlist] A steal of a Schmid

[Chris Tedesco]

Pretty rare that one, let alone two E.S. Schmid horns are on Ebay and both look
legit.  The first has a pretty reasonable buy it now price and the second link
has about 2 days left.  


http://cgi.ebay.com/Engelbert-Schmid-double-french-horn_W0QQitemZ7385825352QQcategoryZ16215QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/FRENCH-HORN-Engelbert-Schmid-Full-Double-Horn-F-Bb_W0QQitemZ7383583953QQcategoryZ16215QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Chris

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[Hornlist] Subliminal Learning

[Chris Tedesco]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Learn-the-French-Horn-Faster-Subliminal-Learning-CD_W0QQitemZ6030583003QQcategoryZ3149QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or better at http://tinyurl.com/c68na

What's next, horn hypnosis?


Chris

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[Hornlist] Interview with Lowell Greer in Hornzone

[Chris Tedesco]

The IHS has a new area dedicated to young horn players called the Hornzone with
the first issue featuring an interview with Lowell Greer.  

http://hornsociety.org/RESOURCES/Hornzone/Vol1no1.pdf


Chris

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[Hornlist] Silent Brass Alternatives

[Chris Tedesco]

Has anyone had a chance to play or own one of the Best Brass practice mutes?  

Since it seems that they are priced pretty similarly, I'm curious if there is
reason to choose one over the other, or over any other practice mutes that you
know of.  


Thanks in advance,
Chris

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RE: [Hornlist] Re Vienna PO

[Chris Tedesco]

I had the oppurtunity to see the VPO play Dvorak 9 and a Schubert symphony in
Severance Hall in Cleveland a few years ago.  

There were a couple instances where the first, and the third if I recall
correctly, switched to an F-alto single.  If I am not mistaken it was the
solo/duet at the end, and also the third horn lick in the Scherzo that also
goes up to a high B.  

There were actually a few clams in the concert, but nothing too terrible.  

Chris




--- "Prof.Hans Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Surely, you cannot imagine that, as you are not familiar
> with the F-horn playing technique of the Viennese school.
> At first, what is so important with that Shostakovich no.5 ?
> It is just a wave, a fashion not more & will fade. And if
> they play, they can use a different crook for this passage
> or ask the trombone players to sneek in for the one note.
> Why so "over ambitious" ?
> At second: high e3 on the F-horn is by far easier to get
> than on the Bb-horn, - preconditioned one has the right
> embouchgure to play first horn with the Vienna Philharmonic.
> Have you heard Thomas Joebst playing concertstueck on the
> new CD ? Have you ever heard what kind of programs the VP
> dids on their 1st & 2nd Southamerican Tour 1922 & 1923 ?
> Under Weingartner & Richard Strauss the first tour & under
> R.Strauss all on the 2nd tour: all Tone Poems by Strauss
> within 4 concerts in Montevideo on four consecutive days.
> Just one example. And the tour had 42 concerts. And no
> double horn with them then.
> At third: They use double horns & descant horns for special
> tasks as all do, but the single F-Horn is their main
> instrument, so says their contract. 
> At fourth: Other Viennese orchestras (4 or 5) use double
> horns as well, but dont have the Single F Pumpenhorn written
> in their contracts.
> 
> I can speak about that, as I have done all these things on
> my single F Horn also. We say "Wer kann, der kann !!"
> 
> =
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Marc Gelfo
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:05 PM
> To: horn@music.memphis.edu
> Subject: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound
> 
> > In reality though, the Vienna  Philharmonic is an
> "original 
> > instruments group" in the truest sense.
> 
> I've heard a lot of players in Vienna are using doubles and
> triples for security in the high register, but cannot
> substantiate this claim since I don't remember from whom I
> heard it or any particular names of players in Vienna.
> 
> Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E in
> the 4th mvt of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F
> horn (I guess maybe sort of you could bend down pedal F#
> with F123, but that would be treacherous to attack an
> out-of-the-blue piano low E with that
> fingering)
> 
> Anybody know more about this?  
> 
> I can't imagine playing, e.g., the Strauss domestic symphony
> 1st horn part on a single F horn. 
> 
> Marc Gelfo
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Re: [Hornlist] Howard Hanson Symphony #2- Romantic

[Chris Tedesco]

This work has some great horn parts!  For those of us on a budget, I picked up
a double disc recording of the 2nd symphony and 7th along with a smaller work
or two if I'm not mistaken on Delos with Seattle.  It's nice to hear modern
romanticism without  being derivative or cheesy, at least IMHO.  

Chris

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Being outside US (Japan), I knew and have been loving this particular 
> symphony for decades. I don't think it is merely an epigone of some 
> Austro-German romanticism. Rather, it does sound distinctively American 
> (maybe with a hint of Scandinavian flavor). Each time I listen to it, 
> I feel as if my soul has been purified.
> 
> My favorite recording, along with the composer's own, is Slatkin / St. 
> Louis SO (EMI) which should still be readily available through Amazon etc. 
> 
> JY
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> Á÷¿®¼Ô: Paul Rincon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> °¸Àè: horn@music.memphis.edu
> ÆüÉÕ:Monday, December, 26, 2005, 10:35 PM
> ·ï̾: Re: [Hornlist] Howard Hanson Symphony #2- Romantic
> 
> > 
> > 
> > There is actually a CD recording under the Mercury label of that same
> piece.
> > Could have saved the trouble of transferring it and with much better
> quality
> > as well. Yes, few people outside of the USA know the piece - and it really
> > is a gem. Also good (and included on the same CD reissue) is the "Song of
> > Democracy" and hist first symphony. You can hear part of the "Romantic" at
> > the end of the first Alien movie.
> > 
> > Paul Rincon
> > 
> > 
> > On 12/26/05, jim thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just transferred from 'record' to cd a recording of Howard Hanson's
> > > Symphony #2 Op. 30 - Romantic, done by the Eastman-Rochester Orchestra,
> > > conducted by Howard Hanson. Interesting I find that we hear so little
> about
> > > that piece of music when it's so filled with horn and such a 'stirring' 
> 3
> > > movements.  Jim
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RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto Editions

[Chris Tedesco]

So it begs the question, which modern non ur-text edition is most faithful to
this original publication?  

Chris

--- Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The slurs & dots added later come from performance tradition, most handed
> down by mouth to mouth tradition (meaning of tradire = lat.) special in
> Vienna, where the concertos were written. The first complete edition of K495
> is by Art et Industrie  publications in Vienna according to the autograph,
> which was in Leutgeb�s hands for the greater part. The tradition was handed
> downb to Martin Rupp, the Lewy brothers, Richard Lewy, Schantl, Richter,
> Stiegler & Freiberg, just to name a line. And the bows & dots follow the
> violins & are influenced by our language & the singing tradition. This might
> be difficult  to understand by non-German speakers.
> 
> But if you like to stick to the ur-text (like the autograph), continue in
> the clumsiness, while Mozart trusted his friends (most were horn players in
> Vienna) & their skill & experience & taste.
> 
> ==
> > --- Urspr�ngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > An: "'The Horn List'" 
> > Betreff: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto Editions
> > Datum: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:42:44 -0600
> > 
> > Just a follow up to Hans' statement below.  If the original published
> > version (is that the correct interpretation of ur-text?) of the concertos
> > did not include "slurs & dots we are used too" how did they end up in
> > current publications?  Are they from individuals who heard the original
> > performances or are they from later performances that became accepted as
> > standard interpretations?  
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:18 PM
> > To: The Horn List
> > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto Editions
> > 
> > HENLE Verlag in Munich has all four concertos in urtext, as far as there
> > is
> > urtext (K412 , K447, K417 are existant except slow movement of K417
> > missing.
> > K495 is existant just from middle of 2nd mov to end & middle of third mov.
> > until the end. But there is the first Viennese publication of K.495, where
> > Joseph Leutgeb took part obviously (as he had the missing parts).
> > 
> > The urtext publications dont have the slurs & dots we are used too.
> > 
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Re: [Hornlist] simichrome or flitz

[Chris Tedesco]

Obviously any of these products will remove metal on a microscopic level.  I
recall having a conversation with a repairman about how much metal (what was
it, something like 10 microns?) is removed in hand polishing versus other
methods and he explain that hand polishing effectively did not harm the horn,
as the metal actually removed is relatively negligible.  

My personal experience with Flitz is that it's safe to use and endorsed not
only by my repairman from home, but it was suggested by others as a suitable
solution for hand polishing.  

I have never used simichrome, but Ken Pope uses it exclusively and sells it to
others and frankly I wouldn't think he would use and sell it to us if he
thought he was harming our horns with it!


I do wonder what we would put in our valves that would leave an anti-tarnish
coating...  I only put water, Copper Cup (coffee), and oil in my valves.  I
would highly suggest NOT putting any of above-mentioned cleaners inside the
horn!!!  I think the real experts would agree.


Chris


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thank you for clarifying your own personal level of expertise on this
> subject.  I think I'll continue to use these products in the ways that I've
> adopted over the years based on my own successful experience.
>  
> Good sense should tell you that if you're polishing something, you're trying
> to remove unwanted surface.  Commonly, cleaners will contain a chemical that
> reacts with the oxidized surface, combined with a mild polishing compound. 
> The polishing compound in Flitz or Simichrome is so fine that it will do a
> nice job polishing plastic eyeglasses.
>  
> Non abrasive cleaners should be avoided unless you have specific knowledge of
> what the effects of the included chemicals are.  For example, a chemical
> cleaner for copper or silver may be safe with those materials, but instrument
> materials are usually complicated alloys.  If the chemical is aggressive to a
> component of the alloy, serious damage can be done.  It's not uncommon for a
> residual reaction product to be left behind that eats away at the metal.  You
> may find your horn, a few months later, with irreparable 'red rot'.
>  
> In general, Hand polishing with any of these products is not going to remove
> much good metal, even over many years.  If you want your horn to shine like a
> lacquered instrument, get it lacquered.  Removing finger prints and hand
> slime is generally more important than the cleaner you use.  When using any
> cleaner, whether abrasive or chemical, know what it leaves behind and how to
> clean it up.  An 'anti tarnish' coating left behind on the valves can be a
> real problem.  One of the advantages to Brasso, for the amateur, is that, if
> you don't flush the horn enough, you'll feel it in the rotors when you do re
> assembly.
>  
> Learning to do your own maintenance is important and fun.  There are many
> acceptable methods.  Develop a method you are comfortable with, especially
> cleaning up residuals, and stick to it.  Keep the materials you use on hand,
> and don't experiment.  Unless you use a consistent method, you won't be able
> to assess the results.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Jared Disbro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: horn@music.memphis.edu
> Sent: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:55:02 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: [Hornlist] simichrome or flitz
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   Brasso, simichrome, and flitz are all too abrasive
> and take off more metal than Wright's.  I've been told
> this by the man that does all the work on my horn, and
> made me one, and happens to be my teacher, Mr. Richard
> Seraphinoff.  This would make sense, because we all
> want the least abrasive things for our horns, right? 
> I mean, if you want a horn to last as long as
> possible.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jared Disbro
> 
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Stop mutes

[Chris Tedesco]

While I have never played the TE edition mute, it must be noted that the
Alexander mute has two different bell sizes, with one being considerably larger
than the less expensive models.

If the TE mute is of comparable quality, the 68$ is a steal!


Chris

--- Tyler Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ron,
> 
>While not the cheapest at $68 (but still a small fraction of the Alex
> mute) there's the Thompson Edition/Roemra stope mute (
> http://www.thompsonedition.com/mutes.htm). Last fall at Las Vegas I went
> around to all the stop mutes on the various tables I could find blasting the
> pedal C# from Tchaik 6, and the Romera was much better than the Alex.  I
> would recommend it, as the larger throat gives a louder stopping sound than
> any other stop mute I've played, which are much smaller throated in
> comparison.
> 
> Tyler
> 
> 
> 
> 2005/11/23, Robert Osmun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Orlando's right. The Alex mute is the best, but, the Wick mute is pretty
> > good and 6 for $50 a pop would be hard to pass up!
> >
> > Bob Osmun
> > www.osmun.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Pandolfi, Orlando
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:42 PM
> > To: The Horn List
> > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Stop mutes
> >
> > I think the absolute best is the Alexander stop mute. It is very
> > expensive,
> > but well worth it to the professional.  You could probably try Osmun
> > www.osmun.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Of
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> > Subject: [Hornlist] Stop mutes
> >
> > Does anyone know where to get 6 good stop mutes.  The whole section needs
> > them. I can get Wyck for $50 a piece.  Is the Wyck a good  mute?
> > If not, what would you recommend?  Any bargains out there  anywhere?
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: [Hornlist] 667 or 567?

[Chris Tedesco]

Usually it is unlacquered in the US market but this horn is available in a
lacquered version from the factory (at no extra cost) and is marketed in other
countries with a lacquered option.  There are two lacquered 667V's in the horn
studio at school.  

While they 567 and 667V strangely share the dual-plane system, the engraved
caps give it away.

Chris

--- Tom Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is this for real?  I thought the 667V was an
> unlacquered instrument.  Could it be a 567?
> 
>
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[Hornlist] Instrument Repair Cd on ebay

[Chris Tedesco]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7367286793

Looks like all we need is this cd and we can fix our own horns!

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[Hornlist] Wedding Crashers

[Chris Tedesco]

Did anyone notice the vocal acappella version of third movement of Mozart in
the opening of the movie?

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[Hornlist] 668V R.I.P.

[Chris Tedesco]

I read on an ad for a used 668V that it has been discontinued.  Since it no
longer has a page on the Yamaha site, it seems to be true.

Anyone have any idea why?  

My guess is lack of interest.  The 668V that I owned at least was a great horn,
but they didn't seem to be particularly popular compared to the ubiquitous 8D. 


Chris

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Re: [Hornlist] John Williams Concerto

[Chris Tedesco]

It was high fast and hard.  The publisher is Hal Leonard.  


Chris

--- Aleks Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Chris:
> 
> Can you give a little more detailed impression of the JW horn concerto from 
> looking at the music? Is it high, fast, hard, ?? Did you remember who 
> the publisher was?
> 
> I guess no one has recorded this yet have they...
> 
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> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Hollywood Horn - Speaking of John Williams

[Chris Tedesco]

I saw that the John Williams horn concerto was published in a piano reduction
today at a music store!  Looking at it, I don't think I'll program on my
recital anytime soon.  Or anytime for that matter!  There's a reason it's
written for Dale Clevenger.

CHris

--- William Melton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > I always thought John Williams in 'E.T.' sounded particularly
> > Viennese, even by Hollywood standard which often reveals
> > its direct inheritance from late-romanticism
> 
> Jun isn't mishearing this.  Still, John Williams is at home in quite  
> a few idioms other than the Korngold/Puccini style of 30s Hollywood  
> (like jazz, echoes of Stravinsky in Star Wars, etc.).  It seems he  
> learned this fluency the only way you can -- close exposure to many  
> styles, and plenty of hard work. His  teachers included pianist  
> Rosina Lhevinne (b. Kiev, concertized throughout Germany and Austria  
> prior to 1914) and composer Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco (b. Florence),  
> and Williams did film score orchestrations for Franz Waxman (b.  
> Koenigshuette/Oberschlesien) and Dimitri Tiomkin (b. St. Petersburg).
> 
> M. C.-T., Waxman, and Tiomkin all wrote grateful music for horns.   
> Arthur Olaf Andersen (Rhode Island born, but spent study years in  
> Rome and taught in Berlin until 1908), also tutored the young John  
> Williams. Andersen not only wrote a Nocturne for Horn and Piano, but  
> was himself a hornist.  According to Lorenzo Sansone, Andersen also  
> wrote a rather large Horn Method -- in eleven volumes!
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn

[Chris Tedesco]

Maybe I should read the replies before I reply myself?  Sorry!


Chris
--- Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would imagine it has a good deal to do with the music that was written for
> the natural horn.  After all, how many conch shell concerti do we know of? 
> :)
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> --- Nicholas Hartman Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Dear List,
> >   I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a
> > comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn,
> alp
> > horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to
> > make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the
> > development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words
> "Seraphinoff"
> > and "Conch Shell" in the same sentence (except for just then).
> >  
> >
>  
> >   Thanks,
> >
>  
> >   Nick 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Hornlist] the natural horn

[Chris Tedesco]

I would imagine it has a good deal to do with the music that was written for
the natural horn.  After all, how many conch shell concerti do we know of?  :)

Chris



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> Dear List,
>   I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a
> comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp
> horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to
> make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the
> development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words "Seraphinoff"
> and "Conch Shell" in the same sentence (except for just then).
>  
>  
>   Thanks,
>  
>   Nick 
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> 
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Re: [Hornlist] My instrument is full of water

[Chris Tedesco]

On my Schmidt copy, I had a large problem of water as well.  Some horns just
seem to gather water in more annoying places than others and this horn was the
worst.  The easiest way to deal with water is to blow it out the leadpipe water
key as often as necessary.  It may be more blowing than you're used to, but
it's probably better to keep the water from entering places that are harder to
empty. 

For example, when I did Adagio and Allegro, I emptied water at every rest. 
All, what, two or three of them?  I marked H20 in my part to remind myself to
empty.Another piece with some quick emptying is Auf dem Strom and I did the
same.  If I emptied what little was in the leadpipe at most intervals, it
prevented water from getting deeper into the horn, and thus me having to pull
slides or spin the horn on the stage in a hurry.

Chris
--- Alon reuven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tend to have lots of water while I play - usualy I get along quite
> well , but when it comes to pieces like the Brahms trio or Beethoven
> sonata , I have a hard time emptying it .I will be glad to read any
> advice .
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RE: [Hornlist] Warm-Up routines

[Chris Tedesco]

In my playing,  I admit that I've had a sort of love-hate relationship with
warm ups.  When I was first in college, I absolutely had to play a routine of
sorts.  By my sophomore year, I had more or less made my "warm up routine" and
it's about an hour long.  Without listing it excercise by exercise, it involves
pretty much every fundamental technique except for multiple tonguing: long
tones, Farkas-style (well literally) triadic flexibility, Brophy-style (ok
literally too) overtone flexibility, scales, arpeggios, articulations, high
notes, low notes and lip trills.  

There was a time when if I didn't have my warm up, I was so bothered by it
mentally that it affected my playing negatively.  As I grew more mature as
player, I realized that the warming up part grew shorter and shorter and the
practicing part grew and I mostly got over the mental block if I didn't play
it.  

While I physically didn't need the routine after a while, I still felt a little
off-balanced if I didn't have it.  I never understood why my teacher and other
professionals stressed not relying on a routine to play until this past summer
where I got my first "job" playing the horn.  I've had numerous gigs before,
but I count this as my first job, albeit lowly, playing because I got a
paycheck every two weeks with taxes taken out.  I played 8 shows of CATS a week
for 10 weeks at suburban dinner theatre.  It overlapped with school and finals
for about two hellish weeks until graduation, which I had to miss because of
two shows that day.  Once school was over, I had it my head that I would get up
early before the 11AM matinees and go over to the music building and do my warm
up.  The first week out of school, that was totally shot.  One thing about my
routine that is a blessing and curse is that I use a metronome through it out
all.  With out a metronome, the routine isn't the same.  Reality was, I had to
warm up in the pit before the show in front of 300-500 people eating Bustopher
Jones bread and Rumpleteazer pork tenderloin without my metronome and since I
was the only brass player, I was well, the only interested in warming up, not
to mention the loudest.  At that point, I still was nervous about the mic in my
bell and it made it only worse that even with a mute I was the loudest sound in
the building.  

The first few times of that, it irked me to no end, but reality was that I
could no longer rely on my routine simply because there was no time or place to
do it!  While I suppose 11AM call to be in the pit isn't that early, it gets
early fast when you get up at about 1100PM the previous night after the evening
performance, not to the fact that it was summer and I just graduated or any
social activities.  Not that I am proud or would readily admit it, but there
were times when I didn't play much in the days off and had to sit down play two
shows.  I finally understood why I was always told to think about my sound and
not on how things felt.  

I guess my point with all that was I understood why real reliance on a routine
is a bad thing because even in a tiny slice of the real world, it's not always
possible or practicle to do a routine or a warmup that one feels is necessary. 
For me at least, playing for money changes things and you do what you have to
do to do well regardless of the circumstances and if that involves having to
abandon my routine, then you do what you gotta do.  


Chris
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Your method is quite good, but you may consider by the time,
> becomming independent from a certain warm-up routine, as you
> may not have the time to do so in the rehearsal place of a
> professional orchestra. This would mean consequently, that
> you have to warm up at home. How about the cold winter or
> the hot summer, when all the hoe work is gone as soon as you
> leave the house ? Get independent from this routine, so the
> embouchure gets ready as soon as the mouth piece is set on
> the lips. This seems to be strange. Yes, it is. And it works
> only for those, having the so called "embouchure by nature",
> the ideal form of an embouchure. But this is also paired
> with negligence to the necessary home work. 
> 
> So, build up your embouchure exactly the way, you do it or
> as you described it, but still keeping the embouchure
> "alert" to work full after just two three scales. If you
> have to play the great demanding works (Wagner, Strauss,
> Bruckner), you will need the endurance for the piece. If you
> depend on the half hour warm up exercises still, most of
> your "amunnition" will have been spent before the task has
> begun yet.
> 
> About your audition, dear young player, you have got my
> admonition right into the wrong mouth, you have not
> understood the sense of it merely. But it has worked, ifd
> you see the result. A "kick into the ass" at the right time
> can effect miracles. Keep things going upwards, but do not
> forget, hitting the right notes at the right time in the
> right dynamic plus in the righ

Re: [Hornlist] Brass Trio

[Chris Tedesco]

There's a Verne Reynolds trio as well?

Chris
--- BVD Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Poulenc Trio is a great piece! Technically I believe it is called 
> Sonata for Brass.
> 
> I am ready for flaming, but it works with Horn, Euph. and Tuba as 
> well.  Give the Euph. the Trumpet part and the Tuba the Trombone 
> part.  I have played it a few times with this ensemble.
> 
> Wishing you well,
> 
> Bryan Doughty
> BVD Press and Cimarron Music Press
> 79 Meetinghouse Lane
> Ledyard, CT 06339
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> http://www.bvdpress.com/
> http://www.cimarronmusic.com/
> 
> 
> 
> >Dear List,
> >
> > Does anyone know of any college and high school  level Brass Trio music
> >for horn, trumpet, and trombone?
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Re: [Hornlist] Older Yamaha horns

[Chris Tedesco]

That's exactly what I was referring to.  A few brochures are certainly better
than nothing and probably offer more info than the Yamaha site.

Thanks!

chris
--- Klaus Bjerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It may my brass galleries, which Chris refers to. There are quite a number
> of catalogue scans, but when it comes to Yamaha horns my only catalogue
> entry is this one:
> 
> Yamaha Custom Horns from a circa 1988 catalogue:
> 
> Single page 300dpi scans in .pdf format:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YorkMasterPublicPhotosXI/files/Yamaha%20custom
> %20horns%20circa%201988/
> 
> Thumbnails of 120 dpi scans in .jpg format:
> 
> http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxi/lst?.dir=/Yama
> ha+custom+horns+circa+1988+catalogue
> 
> You will have to enter this gallery group via
> 
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/YorkMasterPublicPhotosXI/
> 
> Klaus
> 
> > From: Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > I've looked for info on older models a bit myself and it's definetly a
> pain!
> > 
> > I think one of the listers has a picture site with scans of the original
> > brochures for some of their older models.  They have a bit of info if I'm
> not
> > mistaken.  Could you send us a link?
> > 
> > The other way to find info is to use the search function of the Yamaha site
> in
> > this manner:
> > 
> > Click on search then select from the drop downs "Search all types" and
> "Search
> > all areas" and click search Archived content and then type in the model
> number
> > into the search box.
> > 
> > They used to have this information more readily available on their site in
> the
> > past, but now you unfortunately really have to dig to find it.
> > 
> > 
> > Chris
> > --- Rob Kathner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Just wondering if anybody knows of a website that has information on
> >> older Yamaha horns? Their website only seems to carry information on
> >> current models.
> >> 
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >> 
> >> Rob Kathner
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Re: [Hornlist] Older Yamaha horns

[Chris Tedesco]

I've looked for info on older models a bit myself and it's definetly a pain!  

I think one of the listers has a picture site with scans of the original
brochures for some of their older models.  They have a bit of info if I'm not
mistaken.  Could you send us a link?

The other way to find info is to use the search function of the Yamaha site in
this manner:

Click on search then select from the drop downs "Search all types" and "Search
all areas" and click search Archived content and then type in the model number
into the search box.  

They used to have this information more readily available on their site in the
past, but now you unfortunately really have to dig to find it.


Chris
--- Rob Kathner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wondering if anybody knows of a website that has information on 
> older Yamaha horns? Their website only seems to carry information on 
> current models.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Rob Kathner
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Pirates

[Chris Tedesco]

SEPTEMBER 19TH!  A personal favorite day of mine!


YARRGGG

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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Neil Sanders Mouthpiece and Braces

[Chris Tedesco]

While I personally can't get any sound out of a Neil Sander's mouthpiece, my
teacher from freshman year of undergrad was a Sanders student and had used one,
and occasionally still did, with success.  A friend of mine ended up using a
Sanders rim after I transferred too.  


While the concept may seem ridiculous and the average player may not
necessarily prefer or benefit from one of these goofy looking mouthpieces,
mitigating factors like braces outweigh the other factors.  Moreover, if the
mouthpiece works for someone even WITHOUT special circumstances like the
braces, who cares?  

It honestly doesn't surprise me though that a judge at a state solo and
ensemble type festival had a hissy over something like that. At least in my
experience with Solo and ensemble type things, all of the judges aren't
necessarily qualified to judge.  

Chris


--- Phil Hooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been teaching students for over 40 years. Years ago, when Neil Sanders
> came out with his mouthpiece, my recollection is that one of the benefits of
> the wide rim with the concave design was that it would help to relieve some
> of the discomfort of wearing braces. Over the years I let only a few students
> use it, all of them of which had to play their French horns in marching
> bands. These were the days before the marching mellophones. After marching
> band season I would have them return to their regular mouthpieces.
> 
>  
> 
> I currently have an 8th grade student who came to me with multiple embouchure
> problems, including puffing the cheeks (he looked like Louis Armstrong) and
> excessive movement of the embouchure with each note. These issues have been
> difficult enough to deal with, but now recently he got braces. And it could
> not have come at a worse time, since he was preparing for the State Solo
> Festival, playing the second movement of Mozart #1 (grade 4 on the Maryland
> list). He was having a difficult adjustment to the braces, so I let him try
> the Neil Sanders mouthpiece. He said that it was more comfortable than his
> regular mouthpiece and that he could play better with it. So I decided to let
> him use it for awhile, to get over this hump.
> 
>  
> 
> The judge at the solo festival had a fit over the Sanders mouthpiece. He told
> the student that he should get a teacher (I don't know who he thought I was)
> and to get a "real" mouthpiece. Notwithstanding all this, the student played
> well and received a Superior rating.
> 
>  
> 
> My question is this, by having the student use the Sanders mouthpiece, have I
> really done such a terrible thing as the judge intimated? Am I really that
> bad?
> 
>  
> 
> Phil Hooks
> 
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RE: [Hornlist] Ordinarily I Hate Cellphones In Public, But... NHR

[Chris Tedesco]

That's a good incentive to turn it off.  My ear training professor makes the
entire class do a dictation on it.  

Chris
--- Nicholas Hartman Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cell phones have no place in the world of music. Every concert I've been to
> for the past two years has been disrupted at least once by a cell phone. I
> live in a town with a fairly large music college in it, and there is this one
> professor who, if your cell phone goes off in his class, he will mark you
> absent. I think that is a great strategy. How ironic it is, though, that even
> though, performers on stage learn to hate cell phones with a passion, the
> cell phones themselves seem to love music. What's the most famous cell phone
> ring? Beethoven's fifth. some others are Turkish Rondo, Toccata and Fugue in
> D minor, and the ever-popular funeral march, selections from "Carmen". You
> would think that the people with these phones don't even need to come to the
> concerts. They can just sit at home and call themselves. 
>  
>  
> Nick
> 
> Loren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lawrence wrote, "It is amazing just how loud the speaker of a mobile phone
> can be in the silence of a funeral service."
> 
> My habit is to turn my cell phone off in concerts and the like; usually I
> leave it in the car. But one time I had a critical patient who might have an
> emergency at any moment. So I took my phone with me to a master class, set
> it to silent mode, and stuck it in my pocket. It is amazing how loud the
> "silent' buzz can be in the middle of a rest. I am sure nobody on the stage
> heard it but the people sitting near me did; it was all I could do to keep
> from going ten shades of red. Next time if I'm expecting an emergency I'll
> just stay home.
> 
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> \@()
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (520) 403-6897
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[Hornlist] bell rings

[Chris Tedesco]

One major benefit boasted by using a Schmid ring is the option to change the
bell size.  While, if I understand correctly, the change of bell size isn't as
drastic compared to other horns with similar size designations, it's still
enough to make a noticeble difference.  

But isn't the same thing similarly possible on an Alexander ring?  After all,
larger belled horns like the 8D use the same ring as smaller belled geyer
horns, don't they?  Is the difference in size more or less with an Alexander
ring VS. a Schmid ring?

The major benefit of an Alexander ring is that there are a lot more, and
generally less expensive, bells out there using an Alexander ring.  

So if I were able to change bell sizes as easily with an Alexander as I could
with a Schmid ring, wouldn't the Alex logically be the better choice?  That is,
of course, assuming I could do just that.  

Could anyone out there englighten me a bit? 

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RE: [Hornlist] Decongestants' impact on horn playing

[Chris Tedesco]

That happens to me too.  It's quite ennoying.  I actually keep Claritin in my
horn case.  (I would forgot to take it otherwise).  

Pseudoephedrine, I hope that was close, generally dries me out too much.  But
if I take one of those all-symptom type pills that have lower doses of well
pretty mcuh everything, it helps enough without drying me out.  It's worth a
try.  



--- Wilbert Kimple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Claritin actually makes my playing worse.  My constant nasel drip becomes a
> thick mucus.  Great topic, right?
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry about the decongestant/antihistamine mix up.
> 
>  
> 
> Wilbert
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RE: [Hornlist] Horn Stand

[Chris Tedesco]

I bought two of these when they were on sale at a music convention for $15 a
piece.  Pretty cheap although I don't use it much.  

Chris
--- Sonja Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I actually prefer this one - and it's MUCH cheaper:
> 
> http://www.wwbw.com/Konig-and-Meyer-Multi-Purpose-Instrument-Stand-i97947.mu
> sic
> 
> Sonja Reynolds
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Steve Freides
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:17 AM
> To: 'The Horn List'
> Subject: [Hornlist] Horn Stand
> 
> http://www.wwbw.com/Konig-and-Meyer-French-Horn-Stand-i31443.music
> 
> Anyone ever use a thing like this?  I've seen them for trumpets and other
> "straight" instruments before and think they're very useful there, but this
> is the first time I've heard of one for a French Horn - would maybe save me
> putting the thing down around the house when the phone rings while I'm
> practicing.
> 
> -S-
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Re: [Hornlist] Horns that stand in F or Bb/Triples

[Chris Tedesco]

I think to take full advantage of the...advantages of a triple is play it as it
was intended: resting in B-flat.  

Having said that, there are certainly some advantages to playing a triple
resting in low F.  The biggest advantage is not having to relearn standard
double fingerings.  To me, that's important enough to lose some access to the
high F side.  One downside is that different models of triples are better
suited for this than others.  Yamaha does this fairly easily because of the
adjustable paddles and the Schmid high F model would work well for someone with
larger hands, but it was ergonomically impossble for me to use a Schmidt Eb
triple resting in low F.  I've never had a chance to play a Paxman or Alex
triple.  When my teacher in undergrad bought a triple, I was pretty surprised
that he was able to work the horn well resting in low F.  The thumb paddles on
his triple are adjustable, and you can set it up so that when you push down the
B-flat, you can slip your thumb over the high F.  It's much easier for my
teacher to do it than I can because of my small hands, but it's pretty easy to
push it down for an isolated note, like at the end of the duet in new world. 
Not easy to let go for me though!

Another way to think about it is having a descant and a double in one.  For
pieces that would benefit from extensive use of the high F side, a simple
change to resting in B-flat makes gives unlimited access to the high F side if
it is needed.  

Chris

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 5/7/2005 9:20:55 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> If more teachers believed there might be a triple in their  students'
> future and understood the advantage of playing a triple with the  double side
> lying in Bb, they would encourage their students to play their  doubles lying
> in Bb at the earliest opportunity so as to eliminate one part  of the
> learning curve in switching to a triple in the middle of a career.  I
> believe, but obviously do not have any empirical evidence, that  this
> learning curve is what keeps some pros from taking on the triple and  risking
> their career while they learn to play it; Mr Myers is certainly a  notable
> exception. 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Loren,
>  
> Hope all is well with you.
>  
> I don't follow the logic on the above.  I play triples that stand in  F
> the same as my doubles.  Using this method, I believe the only 
> learning curve associated with learning the triple is learning where 
> and when to use the hi F side.  My thumb has a mind of its  own 
> and it thinks it needs to push when the Bb horn is employed.  I 
> don't think there is a need to change that conditioned reaction 
> just because it's now playing a triple.
>  
> I guess I don't see the "advantage of playing a triple with the 
> double side lying in Bb".  I seems to me that it would be  easier 
> to learn the triple if the triple stood in the key one is used  to.
> Is there a significant advantage to a horn standing Bb rather 
> than F  especially regarding the triple?  
>  
> BTW, looking forward to seeing you in Tuscaloosa.  Johannes 
> should have my overhauled Finke triple there and I would 
> appreciate your comments regarding the horn.   
>  
> Regards, Jerry (never too Old to learn) in Kansas  City 
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Re: [Hornlist] Lip Trills

[Chris Tedesco]

I think I know exactly what you mean and do that method for quick fast trills. 
Like some in Scottish?  

For me, with something that fast, using air and internal movements doesn't
disrupt the embouchure nearly as much as a slower more deliberate trill does,
not to mention I think it adds to the musical quality.  I find that when I do
"normal" trills, I do a little of all three.  


Chris
--- Aleks Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can get a trill in several different ways:
> 
> 1) Just oscillate my lips between 2 notes quickly
> 
> 2) Move the jaw...
> 
> 3) I can use the tongue and say AAEEAAEEAAEEAAEE and the tip of my tongue 
> touches slightly my bottom lip and may even move it. I dunno, when i need a 
> quick fast trill it works well. Does anyone else use this method?
> 
> Aleks Ozolins
> NYC
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RE: [Hornlist] RE: Cryogenicall Frozen horn

[Chris Tedesco]

There was a 667V listed, and sold I assume, on hornplayer.net that said it had
been cryogenically frozen.  I emailed the seller and asked him about it and he
said it did make a difference.  Whether or not it was improvement was
subjective, but he said it definetly didn't make it any worse.  He said that he
had it done after the horn was fairly well broken in, so the effects were
expectedly less dramatic.  

Exactly like it says on the Resonance Enhancement page, he said the effects
were easily felt but sort of hard to describe.  

Now I wonder, would this process work on a lacquered horn?  


Chris
--- "Pandolfi, Orlando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Having tested horns that underwent this process both before and after,
> there is undoubtedly a difference.  Some horns were much improved, in my
> opinion.  Other horns didn't seem to need the process.  As for the horn
> on the internet...who is to say?  Nevertheless, I would not be quite so
> dismissive. 
> 
> O.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of THE VOICE OF THE GUILD
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:16 PM
> To: hornlist
> Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Cryogenicall Frozen horn
> 
> from: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subject: [Hornlist] "Cryogenically Frozen" horn
> 
> I was poking around looking at used horns on the Internet and found one
> that
> said the horn had been "cryogenically frozen" by Osmun - could anyone
> explain this process to me, please? (The horn wasn't for sale at Osmun,
> it
> was at Dillon Music in NJ.)
> 
> Steve,
>  Cryogenically freezing a horn is a proven method of removing money
> from your pocket. Enjoy the rest of the posts, but this is the truth.
>  
> THE VOICE
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Re: [Hornlist] From The Oriental Schmidt House...YHR 863

[Chris Tedesco]

Well since I'm probably one of very few if any one the list to have owned one,
I suppose I should respond.  


It really was an exceptional horn.  It was fairly heavy, but not unresponsive
and I was unable to overblow the instrument.  It was great for that sort of
typical schmidt sound.  Honestly my ONLY gripe about the playing
characteristics was the piston!  The valve they use is larger than all other's
I've seen, so it was a bit too cumbersome and uncomfortable for my small hands.
 On the Bill Barnewitz's FunctionLust Cd, he is holding an 863 on the cover.  
One of the reasons by teacher bought it at the time was that he felt he could
play louder on it compared to his 867G.  The bell size is slightly larger than
the current 667/667V "medium large" size.  

As I understand, the design is a direct copy of Dale Clevenger's Schmidt.  

I thought the B-flat was was a pretty good note actually.  

That price is steal!!  I had people offering me $4500, and another offered
to outbid when I sold mine.  It's hard to find much info about them because
there were less than.  I think it might be sold by now, but Ken Pope had one
for $5500 and there is one at Osmun, that looks almost identical to my former
horn(Lawson finger dimes), that is $5000.  

Strangely enough, when I bought mine, the seller had trouble selling it and
ended up giving me a good deal, but when I put mine up for sale, I got a lot of
responses.  More than the horn I'm selling now, hint hint hint!

Heck, if I could afford it, I'd be buy it for $3200 and email the people who
made offers on my horn.  

863's come up for sale pretty rarely, which I think is a sign of their quality,
among other reasons obviously.  Bill Barnewitz played on one as did my teacher
in undergrad.  My teacher sold his, but I heard from a friend at NW that Mr.
Barnewitz still plays on it sometimes.  My undergrad teacher sold his to a
student because he was playing his triple pretty much all the time.  I think
Mr. Barnewitz did his FunctionLust cd on the 863.  Sounds fantastic either way.
 

Buy it before I sell my car and buy it!


Chris

--- Ray & Sonja Crenshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since there's not much going on here on the list, and since this is going on
> over at
> e-Bay:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7317410797
> 
> ...I'd like to take this opportunity to inquire about the innate goodness of
> these horns.
> 
> For those too jaded to follow the link, it's a YHR-863, Yamaha's version of a
> Schmidt
> piston-change valve double. I remember seeing these in a Yamaha brochure back
> in the early
> 90's but I've never actually seen a real one.
> 
> This one on e-Bay has been listed at least three times (possibly more, I
> don't know) and
> has gone, not only unsold, but unbid-upon. I saw it was $3,500 USD with no
> bids, then
> $3,200 and no bids, and now it's listed at $3,000 and six days left to do
> business. The
> BUY-IT-NOW price has always been $3,500.
> 
> Q: Considered on their own terms, how do these horns play?
> 
> Q: Compared to a real Schmidt, how do these horns play? How's the high Bb?
> Did Yamaha's
> acoustic engineers succeed in replicating the "burr" (Dave Krehbiel's term)
> on this note?
> 
> Q: Do these horns project? ...or do they just make pretty--but local--noise?
> 
> And no, I'm not going to bid on it. It's just curiosity on my part. I won't
> be driving out
> to Bellevue, Washington to try it out, so I'm asking for a "virtual trial" on
> the list
> here. If you've owned or played one, I'm interested in hearing from you.
> 
> jrc in SC
> 
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Tarnished Horn On eBay

[Chris Tedesco]

Conn had hand made horns?

Chris
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 4/16/2005 7:04:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> 
> writes:
> 
> 
> > Nice high-end Yamaha -- check out...
> > 
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16215&item=7315885262&;
> > rd=1 
> > 
> > 
> > One more example of the ravages of atmospheric exposure on raw brass.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Is the original Schmidt a particularly valuable horn?  How does the Yamaha 
> 'Custom' line differ from the hand made horns that Conn, York, or
> particularly, 
> Reynolds made on their American production lines?
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mouthpiece (orig. no subject)

[Chris Tedesco]

He still does!  Except that it's his Houser Bloom these days.


Chris
--- Wendell Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Stacy wrote and I am answering
> 
> "I have a horn teacher that basically insists that all of his horn 
> students
> play a shilke 27 in gold(preferable) when they are of a certain skill 
> level."
> 
> This is just ignorance. Students have different sized (and shaped) lips 
> and lung capacities. Myron Bloom used to do the same thing and it 
> really gave his students a lot of grief because many of them couldn't 
> fill up that #1 bore.
> 
> "The guy knows what he is talking about"
> 
> Not about this.
> 
> " - former CSO and first student of Clevenger,"
> 
> OK?
> 
> " but I am not the average player. Switching to the cup improved
> everything from my low range to my highs with much better attack - yet 
> still
> able to keep a sweet tone."
> 
> I like the sound of a Shilke 27 too, but I can't play on one.
> 
> "The problem is that I have the lips of a tuba player"
> 
> I don't know what you mean. There is no such thing. Do you mean they 
> are large?
> 
> "and though I play very well with this mouthpiece (2 years), I have
> noticed that sometimes notes just won't want to come out because of the
> small diameter."
> 
> That says a lot. Its probably not for you.
> 
> "I love the rim shape and the cup, so does anyone know of a
> similar mouthpiece in gold with a standard size diameter?"
> 
> Sounds like you may need more than a standard diameter. Even a Farkas 
> model or an MDC has more inside diameter than a Shilke 27. Try a Bach 7 
> if you can find one. You need some help from someone who knows about 
> mouthpieces. Since it sounds like you live in the midwest, I would 
> suggest Paul Navarro, but I'm sure there are others who could help you, 
> like Tom Greer at Moosewood in Arizona.
> 
> Good Luck Stacy
> Sincerely,
> Wendell Rider
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[Hornlist] Good Horn Charma

[Chris Tedesco]

I had a church gig this morning for which I played about 10 minutes total out
of the 3 or so hours I spent there and strangely enough, Grammy winning soprano
Sylvia McNair was in the small church choir and sang a solo as well.  That was
worth the gig alone!

Ever show up and get surprised by whom else is there?

Chris

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RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha 666 double horn

[Chris Tedesco]

When you get to the main main instrument page, click on the search heading on
the left.  I typed in the model number, YHR-666 into the query box and clicked
search archived content and then changed it to include all items and all areas.
 IIRC, there was a specific section of archived info on instruments that seems
only accessible now via this search method.


Chris
--- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you very much, Chris.  Could you please tell me exactly how you found
> this information?  I looked on Yamaha's web site before I posted my query to
> the list and again just now and couldn't find any archives.
> 
> -S- 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 6:49 PM
> > To: The Horn List
> > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha 666 double horn
> > 
> > Model:  YHR-666
> > Years:  1981-1985
> > Key:F/Bb
> > Bore:   .469"
> > Bell Throat:Large
> > Bell Material:  Yellow Brass
> > Detachable Bell:No
> > Wrap:   Kruspe
> > Finish: Lacquer or Nickel
> > Current Model:  YHR-668 (N)
> > 
> > 
> > Pasted from the search of archived info on the Yamaha site.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Aleks Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > > 
> > > I don't know what the 666 replaced, but every one I played I was 
> > > pleasantly surprised.
> > > 
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> > > NYC
> > > 
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RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha 666 double horn

[Chris Tedesco]

Model:  YHR-666
Years:  1981-1985
Key:F/Bb
Bore:   .469"
Bell Throat:Large
Bell Material:  Yellow Brass
Detachable Bell:No
Wrap:   Kruspe
Finish: Lacquer or Nickel
Current Model:  YHR-668 (N)


Pasted from the search of archived info on the Yamaha site.

Chris




--- Aleks Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I don't know what the 666 replaced, but every one I played I was pleasantly 
> surprised.
> 
> Aleks Ozolins
> NYC
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Musician Strikes

[Chris Tedesco]

As I understand and have experienced, strikes are pretty common in Italy, but I
wonder, how often, if at all, do Italian musicians strike?


Chris
--- Fred Baucom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> April 4, 2005Rebellion Made Fall of Muti InevitableBy JAMES R. OESTREICH 
> 
> With the attention of the world focused squarely on Rome over the weekend,
> you may have missed what happened in Milan on Saturday: the culmination of
> another drama of consuming national interest in Italy.
> 
> After weeks of vitriolic public wrangling, the renowned Italian conductor
> Riccardo Muti, who had been music director of the famous opera house Teatro
> Alla Scala for 19 years, gave in to the demands of the house's orchestra and
> workers, and announced his resignation. Though simmering tensions rose to a
> boil only in mid-February, Mr. Muti's departure had come to seem inevitable.
> The only real questions were the timing and whether Mr. Muti or the Scala
> orchestra would finally force the issue.
> 
> If Mr. Muti, who continues to turn down requests for interviews, was trying
> to bury the news, he could hardly have chosen a better moment. But it doesn't
> seem his style. The 63-year-old Mr. Muti has never shunned the spotlight,
> whether in triumph or in conflict. It seems more likely, given his intense
> pride, that he was seizing perhaps the last opportunity to leave more or less
> on his own terms.
> 
> He was scheduled to begin rehearsals today with the Filarmonica Della Scala,
> the theater's orchestra, for concerts scheduled later this week, and many
> were convinced, despite assurances to the contrary, that the orchestra would
> strike, as it has done repeatedly in recent weeks. (Those concerts are now in
> jeopardy, along with stage productions to have been conducted by Mr. Muti.)
> He may have chosen to head the orchestra off at the pass.
> 
> Then again, the intensely proud Mr. Muti may simply have been worn down by
> unrelenting attacks in the media. Among the more recent, the influential
> daily Il Foglio described him as a tyrant and an egomaniac. It also said that
> he had a bad international reputation both as a conductor and as someone to
> work with, a recurrent charge that has people mystified from the Philadelphia
> Orchestra, where he was music director from 1980 to 1992, to the Vienna
> Philharmonic, which he is to conduct at La Scala next month.
> 
> The battle was touched off in February by what the orchestra saw as Mr.
> Muti's heavy hand behind the ouster of Carlo Fontana, La Scala's former
> general manager, and his replacement by Mauro Meli, the former director of
> its theater division. The orchestra sought not only Mr. Muti's departure but
> also Mr. Meli's.
> 
> "We don't want Meli because he was Muti's page," Sandro Malatesta, a longtime
> trumpeter in the Filarmonica, said yesterday.
> 
> Mr. Meli, for his part, says he has no plans to leave. "Fortunately, it's not
> the unions who decide on management decisions," he said. "It's not true that
> we make decisions after deliberating with the unions. They were never
> involved before."
> 
> Of his immediate job prospects, he added, "I'm very unworried."
> 
> So the impasse remains, with the orchestra saying it will continue to strike
> the first performance of each production. But at least some players may have
> begun to wonder whether they have thrown out the baby but not the bathwater.
> 
> The orchestra, said Danilo Rossi, a violist, had not initially wanted Mr.
> Muti's resignation. "If Meli had stepped down before," he added, "we would
> never have arrived at this point." The players, he said, are "madder than
> before."
> 
> Both Mr. Meli and the players acknowledge that Mr. Muti will be hard to
> replace. "It hurts just to think about it," Mr. Meli said, adding that he
> hoped that the Scala board, at an emergency meeting called for today, might
> persuade Mr. Muti to remain.
> 
> Early speculation on a successor focuses on three Italian maestros, all
> heavily committed elsewhere: Riccardo Chailly, Antonio Pappano and Daniele
> Gatti. Whoever it may be, in the current politically charged climate, he had
> better watch his back.
> 
> 
> 
> Elisabetta Povoledo contributed reporting from Rome for this article.
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Re: [Hornlist] Old wine in new bottles

[Chris Tedesco]

Ah, nevermind my last post!

Chris

(Great piece though!)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>  
> In a message dated 03/04/2005 20:43:19 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> writes:
> 
> It's  scored for WW quintet with (optional(?)) trumpet. 
> 
> 
> It's scored for DOUBLE wind quintet with optional trumpet.
>  
> All the best,
>  
> Lawrence
>  
> "þaes  ofereode - þisses swa  maeg"
> 
> http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Old wine in new bottles

[Chris Tedesco]

Is there a piece of a similar name for wind octet?  


Chris
--- Michiel van der Linden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> carol everson schreef:
> 
> >>From Roscoe Raven:
> >Does anyone know where I can get parts for Gordon Jacob's suite 'Old Wine in
> New Bottles'?
> >The work is scored for horn, trumpet, clarinet, flute and oboe.
> >Any information would be gratefully appreciated.
> >Thanks,
> >Roscoe.
> >
> >  
> >
> http://www.gordonjacob.com/w_old_wine.html
> It's scored for WW quintet with (optional(?)) trumpet. (you left out the 
> bassoon) Any music shop or music library should be able to get you a 
> copy since it's a _very_ popular WW quintet piece.
> 
> Michiel van der Linden
> Bruges, Belgium
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Re: [Hornlist] California Love REALLY NHR

[Chris Tedesco]

Like Dre and Tupac?

The city of compton,
Chris


--- matthew scheffelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Making a plane reservation a couple years ago , I
> asked about the size of the plane, overhead space,
> etc, the operator gave me some good dimensions and
> said my instrument would fit fine. When I walked on
> the plane, I was suprised it was United airlines
> Largest plane, I think it was the 777. What a great
> ride!!! More room in the overhead than my fixed bell
> horn and backpack could fill.
> 
>  I have had good experience on airlines with my fixed
> bell horns. My first trip ever was on Northwest
> airlines and they actually put my horn in the cockpit
> with the pilot. The captian had me open up my case,
> then said, "why don't you play me something" right
> there in the walkway. Very cool. 
>   That was 15 years ago and yes, things have changed,
> but more often than not I get a closet or it fits in a
> overhead. Sometimes I do have some anxious staff, but
> I use healthy doses of California LOVE to make their
> day,,, this usally works in relaxing them and securing
> a good space.(hehe waiting for a good cabbage on that
> one).
> 
> Matthew Scheffelman
> Horn
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] The best music I know, I learned from my friends

[Chris Tedesco]

One piece that should get more exposure than it does is the Berg Horn-Lokk. 
It's unaccompanied and recorded ridiculously well by Froydis.  

Others that come to mind immediately, while I would say are not obscure, but
are often overlooked or overshadowed.  En Foret is super-standard in the horn
rep and is very challenging, but I always thought Sur Le Cimes was much harder,
but a lot of players I know aren't familiar with the piece.  The only recording
I know of is that by Peter Damm.  On Bill Barnewitz's functionlust CD, I really
like the Donizetti "Dirti Addio".  It's super super sleazy, and his use of
vibrato is very "tasty" as my teacher put it.  


One of the few interesting things I did in my weekly performance major
masterlcass in undergrad was a class called "The best music I know is what I
learned from my friends"  Our professor talked about how he and his friends
would drinking pink champagne and watch the Rockford Files and then each week
someone would play a piece they liked.  For our class, he gave us a survey
asking about the five best or most important pieces for your instrument, and
then a larger portion asking about different favorites or things like "what do
you htink is the most beautiful piece of music you know" or "if you met an
alien what music would you give them"  It was pretty interesting.  

You could tell a lot from the results.  It wasn't a coincidence that the better
musicians had a much larger range of music listed and the lesser musicians
listed terrible and vapid music.  

--- Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all!  In the interests of sharing pet pieces and expanding everyone's
> repertoire, I thought it would be fun to have a thread where everyone lists
> favorite pieces they're familiar with that they think are great compositions
> but are underrepresented and not widely known amongst hornists.  In
> particular I was thinking of pieces written for horn and piano, but of course
> solo horn pieces, concertos, and anything else is great as well.  I am always
> looking for really outstanding pieces to work on that I don't have to worry
> about my studio peers also playing =)
> 
> I'll go first: an absolutely outstanding piece that completely deserves to be
> in the mainstream repertoire but isn't is Jane Vignery's 1942 Sonata for Horn
> and Piano, Op. 7.  An excellent recording is available at
> http://www.linfoulk.org for those interested.  I asked this question to Erik
> Ralske when the NY Philharmonic passed through town last month and his answer
> was Gounod's Six Melodies for Horn and Piano (James Sommerville on Marquis
> Classics).  He also mentioned that he doesn't understand why Reinecke's trio
> for clarinet, horn, and piano doesn't get the exposure it deserves while his
> trio for oboe, horn, and piano does.  So let's hear it, everyone!
> 
> Looking forward to replies,
> Kyle
> 
> 
> P.S.  I'm probably making a last-minute substitution in my recital and now
> I'm playing Bozza's En Irlande.  I know absolutely no outside information
> about the piece and can't even find a recording on amazon.com (although I
> know there's one on Robin Dauer's French music recital CD but I don't have
> access to that) so if anyone can tell me anything about the piece
> specifically that would be good for program notes, please let me know in a
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Re: [Hornlist] Custom VS. Non Custom Yams

[Chris Tedesco]

In all due respect, while the non-custom Yamahas IMHO are good horns, they
don't really compare to the custom models.  And I would think most people would
agree.  Moreover, the consistency on their custom models are pretty tight. 
Having owned an 863, a 668V, now a 667V, and having played my undergrad
studio's 881 descant extensively, I found that different horns of the same
model were very very close to identical.  (Yes there were two 863's in the same
room!  One now is played by a freshman at UW Madison who placed first in their
fall orchestra auditions!)  

Does anyone else notice a $2,000 difference in the custom models?

Chris


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 3/18/2005 8:59:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
> > And why is it that horns that are hand made are preferred by professionals 
> > over 
> > those put together with more automated processes?  Surely not simply
> because 
> > 
> > they are hand made.
> > 
> 
> I suppose I'm cursed because my love of engineering seems to carry over to my
> 
> avocations.  Not only do I do brass restorations, I also build and restore 
> stringed instruments, classical and 'popular.'  I'm just finishing a design
> for 
> a new concept of electric bass, tuned to low B, four strings, but with a 40" 
> scale.  I've had to design a graphite box beam structure to allow for such a 
> long neck supported only at the end of the fingerboard.  'Experts' have tried
> to 
> convince me it can't be done, but my finite element analysis indicates that 
> my latest design has plenty of margin.  I'm always being thrown problems that
> 
> are deemed 'impossible.'  When I find a simple solution, I'm always told, "I 
> could have figured that out."
> 
> Your comment that 'professionals' always prefer handmade horns fall in line 
> with what I refer to as philosophy of The Emperor Suit Company.  Clearly, the
> 
> Chinese horns are hand made, but not preferred by professionals.  More to the
> 
> point, Yamaha has for some time offered identical instruments in either a 
> student form, or as a hand made custom series.  At every opportunity, I
> compare one 
> to the other.  The student horns are uniformly good.  The hand made versions 
> can be as good as the student horns, but rarely are.  Often, I run into 
> students who have gotten the horn like the custom horn their teacher plays. 
> When I 
> point out that the student horns are more apt to be better, they agree they 
> like theirs better, but the teacher says they just aren't ready for a 
> professional horn.
> 
> Recently someone sent me a Chambers model horn that felt good to play, but it
> 
> sounded funny.  The places he took it to invariably said it needed a complete
> 
> valve job at a price more than it would be worth, since it was an Abilene 
> horn.  When it showed up, it sounded a bit like a bagpipe with a bad chanter
> at 
> about 1000 Hertz.  My son and I put our acoustics expertise to work and came
> up 
> with a theory that allowed me to fix the horn quite easily.  A ten second 
> inspection ruled out the valves.  Doing a valve job on this horn would have
> been 
> grand larceny.  With the expertise of Brass Arts, I'd be curious what you 
> would look for.  The giveaway is in the bagpipey sound.
> 
> >From what I understand, Herr Schmid is not only extremely knowledgeable, he 
> is also very open with sharing his expertise.  I've been told by people who 
> know him that he and I could probably spend hours swapping stories that would
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: fixed bell and airlines

[Chris Tedesco]

Some people notice a difference in the sound, good or bad.  For those who think
it's not as good as a cut bwll, I suppose to them that's the downside. 
Personally, I'm not sure.  I had a 668V cut and it played BETTER.  The ring
rounded out the metal a bit, so maybe that's why.  

When you have such work done on your horn, you always run a risk of not liking
the result.  Having said that, I'd have no qualms int he future of having the
bell on a horn of mine cut by a seasoned professional.  The travelling benefits
to me are very important.

Chris
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there any downside to a screw -bell?  What about having a fixed bell 
> converted to screw on? Any downside to that?
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RE: [Hornlist] Vienna horns

[Chris Tedesco]

the VPO did a US tour I believe two years ago.  I saw them do Schubert 4(I
think) and New World in Severance Hall.  It wasn't a clean concert for the horn
section, but they sounded fantastic.  The principal used a single (high) F horn
for a couple passages in new world.  It's interesting that they would prefer a
single high F over what wouldn't be a challenge to them on the B side of a
double..

Chris
--- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's a shame, Hans - I would love to see them.
> 
> Is there a European concert schedule?  I see nothing about upcoming concerts
> on the group's web site.
> 
> -S-
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:27 PM
> > To: 'The Horn List'
> > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Vienna horns
> > 
> > As this group includes two of the principals (one is actually 
> > under contract as 2nd horn (no vacancy on 1st) but plays 1st 
> > on many occasions (for me the greatest talent), it would be 
> > most difficult to get off their duties for more than a week. 
> > What is a week ? Does it allow enough concerts on the other 
> > side of the Atlantic to cover the travel expenses at least ?  
> > Surely not. And they make a living by playing the horn, so 
> > they must earn hard cash then. For me it seems impossible. 12 
> > airtickets, 13 single hotel rooms for 6 nights, travel inside 
> > USA, advertissement, rent of the hall, organisation, how many 
> > tickets might be sold  ...
> > Calculate all & find it impossible.
> > 
> > As most of the members of this group do not belong to the 
> > Vienna Phil, they could not be with the two first horns, if 
> > they go to the USA with the VPO. VPO would not hire them as 
> > they have their own horn players. They might hire one or two 
> > in extreme cases (I was with them on 3rd for Bruckner no.8 in 
> > Carnegie Hall, Solti conducting, Heitzinger was also with them then).
> > 
> > 
> > =
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Steve Freides
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:48 PM
> > To: 'The Horn List'
> > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Vienna horns
> > 
> > Does this group have any US performances in the near future?
> > The sound samples on the web site are, to my ears, just wonderful.
> > 
> > -S- 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > .e
> > > du] On Behalf Of Papierniak, Mike
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:32 PM
> > > To: horn@music.memphis.edu
> > > Subject: [Hornlist] Vienna horns
> > > 
> > > Mr. Thomas Joebstl was kind enough to bring a supply of
> > the new CD 
> > > "vienna horns" to New York for the Vienna Philharmonic
> > concerts.  The 
> > > purpose is to make this fantastic CD more readily
> > available to horn 
> > > players in the United States.
> > > Please contact me off list if you would like to purchase
> > the CD.  I 
> > > also have a few of the "Lebenszeichen" CD for purchase as
> > well.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Check out the Vienna Horns website, www.viennahorns.com 
> > >   to see more about the CD.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Michael Papierniak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: fixed bell and airlines

[Chris Tedesco]

Regarding the TSA letter.  When I was confronted with my horn by a certain
overly sassy stewardess, she said "Well, we don't have time to check on that,
so just get on the plane".  I had an earful, but my horn was safe.  

The better method is to humbly ask to put the horn in the crew's locker because
you "didn't know" it wouldn't fit and it's too valuable and fragile to check. 
When I did this, I also made sure I was the last person on the plane, so I
wouldn't hold up everyone else.  

The way I see it, my horn is the single most expensive thing I own, (including
my car), so under no circumstances will I allow it to be checked under the
plane.  Make up any excuse to keep that horn from being mangled by the
airlines.  


Chris
--- Carlberg Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> At 4:25 PM -0600 3/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >The "AFM letter" only details what the TSA must allow through its
> >screening process.  It does NOT mandate that the airlines allow you to
> >carry the instrument on-board.
> 
> 
> Hi, Ron -
> 
> 
> The TSA letter doesn't seem to limit itself to AFM members. I have use it
> several times, but generally haven't needed to do so.
> 
> The TSA letter dated January 17, 2003 says, in part, "On December 20, 2002,
> TSA instructed aircraft operators that effective immediately, they are to
> allow musical instruments as carry-on baggage in addition to the limit of
> one bag and one personal item per person as carry-on baggage on an
> aircraft."
> 
> For me, the only place I've needed to be careful is on entering the plane
> itself, nowhere else. And, as has been said, a smile and a polite request
> have always netted a place for my horn in a closet.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Carlberg
> 
> P.S. If anyone wants a PDF file of that letter, just let me know.
> 
> Carlberg Jones
> Guanajuato, Gto.
> MEXICO
> 
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Re: [Hornlist] IHS

[Chris Tedesco]

Email the webmaster or designer and they can pass along the info for the
entries.  I did that and they were happy to oblige.  I bet that Schmid is sold
though :)  For 5 grand...


Chris
--- "Hunt,Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is quite a long list of used horns at the IHS site.  I get a message
> that the page is down, when I click on any of them.  Anybody know if these
> kinds of thigs are short-term, or maybe it's already been down a long time
> and isnt coming up any time soon.
> 
> tom in iowa
> 
> btw cara sawyer, do you still subscribe to this list?  be in touch!
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