Re: [Hornlist] Alphorn needed: SF Bay area

[Leigh Alexander]

I don't have an alp horn but I'm interested in the love you are  
offering at the end of your message. can horn-listers get an early  
bird special on that, or do we have to go through AOL like everyone  
else?

Leigh :o}

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:42 AM, horncabb...@aol.com wrote:


Hey, List:

Does anyone in the San Francisco Bay area
have an alphorn I could borrow/rent for the
weekend of August 1?   The alphorn I had
intended to use has decided to take a trip
out of town.   If you can help, or if you want
to flood my inbox with gratuitous insults,
contact me off-list.   Thanks.

Gotta go,
Cabbage
horncabbage(a)aol.com


**
Looking for love this summer? Find it
now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003 
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Re: [Hornlist] test message

[Leigh Alexander]

Well, you passed anyway:o}
Leigh

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:49 PM, David Goldberg   
wrote:



Bill Gross wrote:
That was a test and only a test.  Had it been a real message there  
would

have been something to read.
-Original Message-
On Behalf
Of Gary Greene
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:38 PM
To: Horn-List
Subject: [Hornlist] test message



What is real?  I read it.  If anything is real, then nothing is  
real.  Other messages are something.  This was nothing; there was no  
thing.  Donut holes are nothing.  This message is a donut hole.   
Isn't that something?


It was a test.  Everything is a test.  But this message was  
nothing.  Nothing is a test.


Did we pass?


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Re: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

[Leigh Alexander]

Laura;

I have a 5802CK I purchased from Ken Pope at IHS '09. I love it and  
the intonation is fine.


Leigh

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Laura Briney wrote:

I am looking at buying this model and I'm looking for any  
information from anyone who has had any experience with this horn.  
Any and all information would be helpful. Thank you.


~Laura B.

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Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

[Leigh Alexander]

Rienzi

Leigh
On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:46 PM, Robert N. Ward wrote:


Hello all,

Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test  
your knowledge:


Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with  
a one single, solo instrument.


I'll get you started:

Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2

Have at it!

Bob

**
Robert N. Ward

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Re: [Hornlist] What to post or not...

[Leigh Alexander]

Ken, I agree with Jeremy. I was thinking the same as you when I read  
the hornplayer.net post this morning.

Leigh

On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote:

Personally, I say "post away!"  It's one thing to send out  
advertisements
for oils, cases, etc.  It's another thing to post a list of  
"orphaned" horns

that are available.

Certainly, I wouldn't check anyone's site on a regular basis for  
used horns,
but if I get that free and easy e-mail, I'm certainly going to take  
notice.
I've bought or had students buy no less than 5 horns from  
hornplayer.net

just because of the horn list e-mail updates.

Cheers-
Jeremy

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Pope [mailto:k...@poperepair.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:12 PM
To: h...@music. memphis. edu
Subject: [Hornlist] What to post or not...

I notice that hornplayer.net posts the recent listings of used horns  
every
now and then on this newsgroup, and I was wondering if it is  
something that
others of us should do as well?  I just added 15 horns this week,  
but I've
always kept away from 'advertising' per se on the newsgroups (even  
though

these instruments all belong to other players).
So, I'm curious about your thoughts on this!
Sincerely
Ken Pope

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Re: [Hornlist] semi-NHR: Recording software for iPhones

[Leigh Alexander]

This doesn't seem to be available in the US yet. That's the notice I  
got anyway.
Sorry if someone has already mentioned this but I don't seem to be  
getting much hornlist mail lately.

Leigh

On Jun 20, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Howard Sanner wrote:

I got the July 2009 issue of EQ magazine yesterday. In it is  
mentioned software for the iPhone and iPod Touch that allows them to  
be used as audio recorders, including with external microphones. The  
program is called FiRe, and is said to feature an accurate waveform  
display and to allow "instand downloading/uploading of audio files."


Price is said to be $5.

Point your browsers to

http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/

for more information.

I'm just passing this along; I don't have any experience with it. I  
know several of you out there in French horn land have iPhones,  
since you send me email from them, and probably also iPod Touches,  
which I do not.


Also, esp. for Jerry and Jeremy, I get EQ free because of my  
"prominent position in the audio engineering profession"; I don't  
pay for it. They should learn that for flattery to be effective it  
has to have some foundation in truth, which this doesn't, especially  
when applied with a trowel, like this. 

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Re: [Hornlist] Double post - After-trip report - IHS Symposium

[Leigh Alexander]

Nah, that wasn't you, that was burger king! Right?
Leigh


On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Bill wrote:



Well, maybe smoke, but for certain the bad odor.

Bill


--- On Tue, 6/9/09, Dan Malloy Jr  wrote:



So that is what all the smoke was
from?!???!!   :-P
Dan







My apologies to those who had to endure about 25minutes of high  
A's and

higher.

Bill




Waterloo-Cedar Falls Symphony Orchestra - Principal Horn
Cedar Rapids Symphony Orchestra - 4th Horn
Private Horn Studio
Piano Tuner

danmalloyjr.com
bsharpmusicservices.com
dan.malloy...@gmail.com
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[Hornlist] Blog Address

[Leigh Alexander]

oh good lord: here's the address for my blog.

Many apologies to all.

http://leighsmentallint.blogspot.com/

Leigh

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[Hornlist] IHS '09

[Leigh Alexander]

Crass need for attention alert:
Check out my blog if you are at all interested in a punter's point of  
view.


Andrew Pelletier is today's fawning but entirely sincere subject.

Leigh

PS: aaah that would be me that was fawning and sincere. Andy is just  
sincere. See? I can't help myself :-P

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[Hornlist] Blogging; Me that is

[Leigh Alexander]

Hello all:

Please pardon the crass self-promotion but I wanted to throw my blog  
address into the ring for IHS '09. I'm going to give it a shot and I  
hope you will be able to see the events as I do. I'm not playing horn  
this year so I should be able to wonder all over. A roving reporter if  
you will.


http://leighsmentallint.blogspot.com/

I've started blogging already to practice. And all of you that blog  
using html continue to feel smug, you deserve to ;-}


Leigh (a blogging dilettante)
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Re: [Hornlist] Head Count - IHS Symposium

[Leigh Alexander]

So, are we all going to try to meet somewhere or is there a "cool  
kids" table during mealtime :-} ?


Leigh

On May 23, 2009, at 6:15 PM, jerryol...@aol.com wrote:


In a message dated 5/23/2009 4:37:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sherpale...@mac.com writes:

Are you  ok with that Jerry?
Leigh


Hi Leigh,

 sorry .. I accidentally hit the
send button.

bottom line, the more dots the better.

Regards,  Jerry in Kansas  City

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Re: [Hornlist] Head Count - IHS Symposium

[Leigh Alexander]

Are you ok with that Jerry?
Leigh

On May 23, 2009, at 2:47 PM, sandyp...@aol.com wrote:


I would be willing to bring dots and hold them at the Pelican Music
exhibit.  That way everyone can find where to pick them up.  How  
does  that sound?


Sandy Petersen
Pelican Music
_www.pelicanmusicpublishing.com_ (http://www.pelicanmusicpublishing.com 
)


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Re: [Hornlist] Head Count - IHS Symposium

[Leigh Alexander]

Me too :-) Pine (Pine is not Elm) was the mailer at my school.
Leigh

On May 22, 2009, at 11:44 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote:

Cool!  I've been on the list since 1994 too - back when it was  
'majordomo'
or something similar.  I had to go to the computer lab at the  
University and

check the messages on my monochrome green and black screen.

-Original Message-----
From: Leigh Alexander [mailto:sherpale...@mac.com]
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:40 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Head Count - IHS Symposium

I'll be there for the duration as well.
Leigh Alexander
list member since 1994 although lurking for the last few years.

On May 22, 2009, at 11:35 PM, John Kowalchuk wrote:


I'll be there, start to finish.

John Kowalchuk
Maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes
Oshawa, Ontario http://kowalchukmutes.com

Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it.



-Original Message-
From: horn-bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-
bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Cucco
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:18 PM
To: h...@yahoogroups.com; 'The Horn List'
Subject: [Hornlist] Head Count - IHS Symposium

Hi Friends!

I wanted to get a head count/roll call of those who will be
attending the
IHS Symposium in a couple weeks.

I'll be coming out, but only for 2 days (Thursday and Friday).

Will there be some gathering for us Internet nerds?



Cheers-

Jeremy

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Re: [Hornlist] Head Count - IHS Symposium

[Leigh Alexander]

I'll be there for the duration as well.
Leigh Alexander
list member since 1994 although lurking for the last few years.

On May 22, 2009, at 11:35 PM, John Kowalchuk wrote:


I'll be there, start to finish.

John Kowalchuk
Maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes
Oshawa, Ontario http://kowalchukmutes.com

Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it.



-Original Message-
From: horn-bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-
bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Jeremy  
Cucco

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:18 PM
To: h...@yahoogroups.com; 'The Horn List'
Subject: [Hornlist] Head Count - IHS Symposium

Hi Friends!

I wanted to get a head count/roll call of those who will be  
attending the

IHS Symposium in a couple weeks.

I'll be coming out, but only for 2 days (Thursday and Friday).

Will there be some gathering for us Internet nerds?



Cheers-

Jeremy

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[Hornlist] IHS 09

[Leigh Alexander]

Hi folks;

I was wondering if anyone on the list has plans to take the evening  
train from O'Hare to Macomb. Maybe we could meet up to get from the  
airport to the train station?


Leigh
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[Hornlist] Re: Falling Apart - mute fell

[Leigh Alexander]

Holy c**p :-} I'd 'a paid to see that! 

Leigh 



hans writes: 


Once in a Vienna Phil Concert under Leonard Bernstein,
Wolfgang Tomboeck�s mute fell off the music stand, but he
tried to catch it by his foot, but he was too fast & strong,
so he kicked it right through the strings passing
Bernstein�s head, but the mute landed in the first row,
where a listener caught it. So no noise, but a VERY
surprised Bernstein.

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[Hornlist] Re: I Found My Horn/A Devil To Play

[Leigh Alexander]

Then I must say: I'm glad I ordered the UK version. I loved it; pathetic, 
non marmite eating, anglo-fanatic that I am. 

Leigh 




Jasper Rees writes:

"Are there other major differences between the American and British editions
of your book?"


etc. etc. etc 



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Re: [Hornlist] (no subject)

[Leigh Alexander]

Serenade for Tenor, Horn & Strings - Britten
See, I can do it too


On Feb 25, 2008, at 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Auf dem strom - Schubert

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Re: [Hornlist] German-speaking horn players

[Leigh Alexander]

ehhh, No...

On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


yes


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Re: [Hornlist] Re: UnRaveled Redux

[Leigh Alexander]

First I'd go ahead and buy some new scores. Then I'd call the 2/3rds  
that left the old orchestra and tell them a new one is starting up,  
then I'd tell the 1/3rd left in the old orchestra that the 2/3rds who  
left have started a new orchestra. Next, I'd get the mailing list for  
the decimated audience and tell them a new orchestra has started and  
invite them to submit entries for a request concert. Then I'd hire a  
new conductor/music director for the new orchestra auditioned by the  
orchestra. Print up the programs, have a concert and leave the old  
conductor flailing in the wind.


If you want to have someone conduct the Stars and Stripes then you  
find a local celeb for the 4th of July Pops concert you do in the park  
for free and he invites all his/her bigwig hangers-on and increases  
your audience with the feature's reporter for the local rag in  
attendence. If you get a local anchorperson to conduct, then you get a  
free special on the evening news.

Let us know how it goes :-}
Leigh

On Feb 16, 2008, at 6:27 PM, John Baumgart wrote:

It would seem that firing The Podium(TM) at next opportunity would  
be in

order.  I'm guessing a move like this would not be unprecedented with
respect to his conducting career.

John Baumgart

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
Behalf

Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:50 PM
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Subject: [Hornlist] Re: UnRaveled Redux

Your point is well made and unfortunetly shy of the mark Loren.  The
conductors tenure  last season and this has seen attendence at  
peformance
decline by ninety per cent, the schedule halved and orchestra  
membership
reduced by two/thirds.  The responsibilty for this is the  
conductor's.  He
allows talking during rehearsals, programs kiddies with us and  
barber shop
quartets etc.  And has a raffle where the winner in the audience  
conducts

the orchestra in Stars and Stripes Forever.
My complaint with him was scheduling a middle school piece for an  
adult
orchestra.  And I volunteered to pay for the original score and  
music.  I
also quietly and discreetly tried to suggest ways to improve the  
orchestra.

He rejected my ideas and insulted me and the orchestra with his music
choices.  Plus  his administrave competence is abysmal.
My UnRaveled thread was meant to be humorous.  Why not laugh at the  
brics

and bracs of our lives.

Bill


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Re: [Hornlist] Instrument of the Devil?

[Leigh Alexander]

Why should he? The Devil wrote Kopprasch ;-P
Leigh

On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:33 PM, David Lamb wrote:

Besides, lets face it: the Devil would never take the time
to master Kopprasch.

David Lamb in Seattle


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[Hornlist] Re: LA Horn Club Music on CD

[Leigh Alexander]

Sounds like the one I have. Got it @ the Kalamazoo-zoo-zoo workshop.  
I think. Or the Athens, GA one. Definitely not the Banff one.


Leigh

On Oct 9, 2007, at 6:36 PM, Larry Jellison wrote:

There is a two LP remake on a single CD of the Los
Angeles Horn Club music labeled, "Hollywood Horns"
(case color photo of horns on a lawn).  I bought the
CD several years ago and cannot retrace from what
company I purchased it.  The CD includes the words, "A
Reproduction of the two LP's made in the '50's".  The
inside label contains, "A Reproduction of the Los
Angeles Horn Club Recordings.  A Gift from the Wendell
Hoss Memorial Library".  Oddly, there is no catalog
number and the paper insert looks like a homemade
product.  I could not find this disk using an Internet
search.  Perhaps someone else knows how to locate the
source of this disk, and indicate how to purchase it.

Larry


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[Hornlist] Re: New York Phil Opening Night

[Leigh Alexander]

Actually, even though Henry did give a speech to the Virginia  
Convention (1775), there is no proof that he said anything resembling  
the "give me liberty or give me death" speech attributed to him. This  
was part of a "Biography" of Henry written by William Wirt and  
published in 1817. Henry was an orator with an underlying baser  
agenda of his own.


Leigh

On Sep 21, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Bill Tyler wrote:
rob schmidtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Give me liberty or  
give me death, Patrick Henry,1775 during the civil war.  It was a  
pun based on that slogan.

Actually, it was the American Revolutionary War.
For another idea on brass playing, here's an article from Doug Yeo,  
bass trombonist of the Boston Symphony. He has an excellent web  
site ...

www.yeodoug.com/articles/text/teamplayer.html
Bill


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[Hornlist] Was: NYP Opening Night, Now: Chicago

[Leigh Alexander]

True enough! Much as I might love a "push it toward the wall" brass  
section, sometimes it was as if the strings and woodwinds didn't  
exist.  *duck* *ow! hey!?*

Of course that didn't stop my buying CSO recordings:-P
When Barenboim took over, the orchestra seemed to sound a bit more  
balanced.

And now with Haitink... well! Mahler anyone?
Leigh

On Sep 19, 2007, at 8:13 PM, G wrote:

Or Chicago under Solti...
Gary

--- Paul Rincon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Is there "too loud" playing by the brass section in
this symphony? NO. They absolutely destroyed and
dominated this piece."
Yep. Sounds like the NY Philharmonic from your
description...
Paul Rincon


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Re: [Hornlist] Playing a trombone

[Leigh Alexander]

Folks:
On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 09:29 AM, blackjack_ cajun wrote:
Hi all,
can some of you share some insights on playing a trombone and horn at 
the same time?
what do you guys think?
regards,
Jon
But seriously Jon (what a bunch of comedians eh??)
I remember my daughter playing horn and trombone in junior high. As the 
horn player in the family I was pleased but bewildered that she would 
even pick up the "devil's instrument", all that Dies Ire stuff don't 
you know. Then I realized that the kid had a talent somewhat for jazz  
band and that was why she was playing both. The Kid (Harmony is her 
name for future reference) come to some great musical DNA from her 
father who was a shining light in the tuba, upright bass world when he 
was in school. He now can play just about anything he wants to pick-up 
including some pretty luscious folk viola playing (hey, no jokes now, 
I'm serious).

So it can be done by the young who don't think anything of just wading 
in there and doing it. Had Harmony not gone into theater (I blame her 
father for that, his theater DNA was stronger than my music DNA) I 
would have tried to direct her toward horn only and maybe flugel if she 
wanted to do jazz band and march (however, the small private school she 
went to in ME didn't have a marching band). Harmony now works on the 
set of "Alias" as a 2nd AD, which just goes to show if you let a kid 
follow her(is) happiness good things result.

All that motherly boasting aside, I would have to say that in my 
limited experience anyone who switched to horn from anything else never 
really takes the time to think about how different the horn religion is 
from the other brass religions and the results have been (for the most 
part) horrendous.

Horn doesn't not sound like trombone & while it might be admirable to 
get a trombone to sound like a horn; (really why would you try, one is 
playing a trombone for cripes sake) it should never be confused with 
one. Just because you can play louder in the low range of a horn 
because of your trombone technique doesn't mean that this is something 
you should do on a horn. It sounds horrid and when the same technique 
is applied to the upper range of the horn (assuming the ex-trombone 
player can play above a staff "Eb") then the effect is even more 
painful as fatigue and "white-noise" set in almost immediately.  There 
is no other way for me to put this (well there is, but I'm just not up 
to pandering diplomacy) but I find in my particular rung of the music 
world that some of the most un-hornlike sounds come from people who 
have switched from other brass instruments to the horn. And this leads 
me to why? Why would one switch? And if one does; why on earth not 
think beyond this one simple fact: you are NO LONGER playing a trumpet 
(higher, faster, louder, brighter, I was the star in my marching 
band/jazz band/drum corp) or a trombone (lower, faster, louder, I was 
the star in my marching band/jazz band/drum corp)! You are playing 
horn; with all the difference and change in mindset that entails.

Horn is a different sound so here's the thing:
1. You insist on playing both: learn to compartmentalise your playing 
techniques into HORN & TROMBONE (not shouting just emphasising). Listen 
to top rung players of both instrument, preferable before you sit down 
to practice, but hey listening is learning so do it when you can. As 
you start to listen and learn from each of the best players of the two 
instruments you will come away with the proper mind set and techniques 
required to do both well. You want to follow this duel instrument thing 
to a ridiculous conclusion then find a trombone teacher _&_ a horn 
teacher.
Think about why you want to play both; you never mentioned. If it is so 
that you can play horn in concert band and then, perhaps, play 
something other than the traditional switch to mello for marching (I'd 
shoot myself in the foot before I'd try to march mello; who needs the 
grief.) or maybe you want to play in jazz band (and who wouldn't want 
to do that, even the jazz clueless like me would like to have a shot at 
some big band/traditional jazz playing) maybe, instead of the 
"traditional" horn shift to trombone, you (and others like you) could 
switch to flugel.

I think that horn players would be perfectly suited for this switch. 
The ability to use the traditional flugel mouthpiece, much more 
resembling the horn mouthpiece than the trumpet mouthpiece (which is 
the usual doubling) and a horn players sense of "sound" would translate 
much more lusciously to the flugel. Besides think of the reading speed 
you gain by playing a flugel. Flugel and Horn are conical and I should 
think that would be a plus in doubling; with trombone and horn one is 
switching between conical and cylindrical bore, different animals 
there.  Less embouchure struggle too. Who needs to mess with switching 
from the daintiness that is the horn mouthpiece to the birdbath 
sensation that is 

[Hornlist] Was H. Gottwald now Valencia

[Leigh Alexander]

On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 04:46 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Greetings
Hans Pizka, just back from the Valencia Horn Symposium.
So, how did it go? Anybody else go?
Leigh
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Re: [Hornlist] Mouthpiece popping

[Leigh Alexander]

Gee, I don't know..
Why does Jan Bach's terrific "Two-bit Contraptions" call for.what 
was it? A comb to be run across the horn mute?
Better sense of humour?

Or maybe:
Mozart was a snotty little putz who thought himself musically superior 
to everyone else and took himself too seriously, Wagner was a musically 
longwinded pompous anti-semite who took himself too seriously, Strauss 
came from a line of waltz writers, was looking for daddy's approval and 
took himself too seriously and Mahler was a depressive who couldn't 
decide whether to be a jew or a catholic and took himself way too 
seriously?

Or how about this: they were all Germanic? (Austria, Saxony, Bavaria & 
Bohemia respectively)

Nah, that couldn't be it;-P
Leigh (bloody hell, just had the nomex cleaned, guess I'll go put it on 
again *sigh*)

On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 07:40 AM, Hans Pizka wrote:
Question:
Why didn´t Mozart or Wagner or Strauss or Mahler ask for mouthpiece
popping ?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf
Of Robert Dickow
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:35 AM
To: The Horn List
Subject: [Hornlist] Mouthpiece popping
About mouthpiece popping...
I have at least two compositions that call for mouthpiece popping while
the horn is still attached to the instrument. The pieces have been 
played
all over the world (well  England and the U.S. ;-) and I've never 
had a
problem. On one occasion, however, a hornist objected that doing this
effect could cause his mouthpiece to get stuck. "No, I don't think 
so only
trumpets have this problem," I assured him. Well, you guessed it. One
'pop' into the piece and his mouthpiece was thoroughly jammed into his
leadpipe.
His tone on the popping effect, however, was superb.
Robert Dickow
Lionel Hampton School of Music
University of Idaho
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[Hornlist] Surgery & Horn playing

[Leigh Alexander]

Hornfolks:
Please excuse the dual posting but I just had some unexpected abdominal 
surgery and I was wondering if any of you have recovery experience you 
would like to share with me off list. How soon after did you start 
playing, what compromises did you make and how quickly do you feel it 
took you to recover completely; things like that. I've got my Dr.'s 
help of course but I would like to take any experiences you all might 
have had under advisement too:-}
Thanks so much for any help,
Leigh

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Re: [Hornlist] Different Kind Of French Horn Playing

[Leigh Alexander]

Alan;
That was fabulous! Someone hire that guy for the next IHS symposium!
That's an Icelandic site isn't it?
Leigh
On Tuesday, February 10, 2004, at 09:16 AM, Alan Cole wrote:
For a brief film clip of an on-stage performance (in French), check 
out...
http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=681
-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
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Re: [Hornlist] Satire & scams

[Leigh Alexander]

Looks like a satirical page.google bombing involved?

Look folks, the lesson here is that no matter the site, account info 
can be stolen and used fraudulently. This is happening with alarming 
regularity on eBay and other selling sites. The items we (as 
horn-players) sell are in the thousands of dollars/euros range and that 
rings bells to scammers. There are escrow accounts and other somewhat 
safe options available, but it is my feeling that what was once a 
pleasant option for selling what you have to someone who wants it has 
now turned into a high stakes game of fraud, deceit and fear. Almost 
every day one forum or news organization warns people about the 
"latest" scam online.
Leigh
PS: It's sad that most people know Nigeria for two things: Drugs 
traffic hub and Internet scams.

On Sunday, January 25, 2004, at 04:46 PM, Steven Ovitsky wrote:
There was some recent discussion of financial scams relating to buying 
/
selling horns over the internet.  These email scammers are getting 
better
organized, as you can see by following this link to the 3rd Annual 
Nigerian
Email Conference home page.
http://www.j-walk.com/other/conf Too bad the conference is over.   
 LOL
Cheers,
Steven Ovitsky
www.sotone.com
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Celebrities

[Leigh Alexander]

Didn't Lee's brother George play the horn as well? Or was that Rudy?
Leigh
On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 03:11 PM, John Mason wrote:

Liberace's father, Salvatore Liberace, was a
professional hornist who played in several orchestras,
including the Milwaukee Symphony, during the first
part of the last century.
I'm only slightly embarrassed to know this.

--John

=
J. Mason
Charlottesville, Virginia
Cool snaps:  http://wtju.radio.virginia.edu/mason/
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn celebrities?

[Leigh Alexander]

I was amazed at the number of players who carried their instruments (on 
the bus, down the street) around without a case!
Leigh

On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 01:35 PM, Dr. Carole Nowicke, Applied 
Health Science wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Walter Lewis wrote:
I saw Ewan McGregor in a British Film entitled "Brassed Off" where his
character plays Alto
Don't forget, the peck horn (or blat weasel) player is the one who gets
the girl.  Didn't see her with one of the fat guys on tuba, did you?
I was amused to note the tuba players carrying German-made tubas around
in outside scenes and using English-type tubas in the close-ups and
indoors.
Carole "who owns one of each, plus a fine Besson alto" Nowicke
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn celebrities?

[Leigh Alexander]

That would be Cartman: "I'm not fat, I'm just big boned"
Leigh
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, at 06:52 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hartman exists in South Park, need I say more?  Then there was the  
Captain
(Colonel?) in  "MASH" who played horn. Hmmm,maybe we ARE dorky!

- Original Message -
From: David Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:04 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Horn celebrities?

HR, wouldn't it be amusing if some websited person among us were to  
keep
a
list compiled of well-known folks who play the horn, but are not
well-known as horn players?  Or does it exist already?
Jon Stewart
Hartman (uh, who's that?),
Debbie Reynolds
David Ogden Stiers (Charles Winchester, in 'MASH')
???
{  David Goldberg:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  }
{ Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }
{ Ann Arbor Michigan }
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[Hornlist] Pro Tec

[Leigh Alexander]

Hi folks;

Firstly: Thank you to everyone who purchased items I had for sale. They 
all went to good homes:-}

Secondly: I have one more item left and that is the Pro Tec bag ($100). 
As mentioned before I have digital photos of the bag with my horn and a 
tape measure so you can get an idea if your horn might fit. The case is 
in excellent shape; it's only a couple months old. It's a very good 
bag, just a little too bulky for my personal tastes.

Thank you all again,

Leigh

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Re: [Hornlist] NIGHTLINE:Instruments of Peace (somewhat NHR)

[Leigh Alexander]

Err, oops;-P
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/entertainment/july-dec03/iraq_12-10.html
Leigh
On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 11:56 AM, Paul Mansur wrote:
OK, What URL?
On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 10:26 AM, Leigh Alexander wrote:
Please go to the following URL to read about the concert what Slatkin 
said and to see links to reports about the looting.
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Re: [Hornlist] NIGHTLINE:Instruments of Peace (somewhat NHR)

[Leigh Alexander]

Lehrer did a segment on the night. I believe the current incarnation of 
the Iraqi Symphony is much decimated, and the orchestra performing that 
night was a mixture of the National Symphony and the Iraqi Orchestra. 
It was mentioned that Yamaha, among other corporations, has donated 
instruments to the orchestra. I also believe a collection of orchestra 
works was donated to the orchestra. The hall the Iraqi Orchestra 
suffered very much from looting and fires.
Please go to the following URL to read about the concert what Slatkin 
said and to see links to reports about the looting. If we can do 
something as a group I would be on board with that.
Leigh

On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 01:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was happy to hear that the Iraqi Symphony was playing again.
I was in Baghdad on tour with a jazz group in the middle 60's and was 
invited
to play with the orchestra while I was there.
There were quite a few European players in the orchestra then.
I was suprised at how well the orchestra played (even if it was at 
about
a=448).
They had some pretty incredible gypsy type violinists back then.
One of the horn players was from Switzerland and was there because he 
was
studying middle eastern languages.
If anyone has any connections with musicians there who might need 
music,
mouthpieces, or other accessories, please post whatever addresses you 
have and
maybe some of us could send them some things.
Paul Navarro
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Re: [Hornlist] Mini-balls do not apply even torque (Proof included)

[Leigh Alexander]

This chimpanzee might like to try though:-}
Leigh
On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 01:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very good point. You can also give a Porshe to a Chimpanzee but that 
doesn't
mean he'll make a qualifying lap at Nurburgring.
-William
In a message dated 12/6/2003 10:30:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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But anyway, interesting equation. Does the average customer understand
that, the customer, who does not even know where to apply the oil ?
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[Hornlist] Marcus Bonna is sold

[Leigh Alexander]

Hey folks;
I just know I've left off notifying some of the interested people so I 
thought I would use the lists to get the info out. Thank you for all 
the interest.
Leigh

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[Hornlist] Selling horn stuff update

[Leigh Alexander]

Hornfolks;

After a gentle talking-to by my friends and some of the people on this 
list; I'm going to keep the horn and the minimum accoutrement. I still 
need to weed out the remaining flotsam so the following things are 
still for sale:

1. Yamaha Silent Brass, older model, works great $75
2. Marcus Bonna Flight Case (I have photos I can send) $150
3. Altieri Gig Bag(photos of this avail too) $ 60
4. Pro Tec Case 	(photos avail)	$100
(The Cases and Gig bag are for a detachable bell horn)
5. E. Schmid (no. 8) mouthpiece $45 (these are $65 new)
6. K&M "Robby" style folding music stand w/black cordura case. $30 
(sturdy, in excellent shape)
7. Music (list avail) $140 for the lot

Leigh
PS I'm thinking of using ebay to sell some things and I wonder if one 
or more of the ebay gurus on the lists would mind contacting me, I 
could use some help.

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[Hornlist] Horn for sale

[Leigh Alexander]

Life has taken a turn that requires I sell my Horn and the 
accoutrements. So with that in mind the following items are for sale.

1. My (almost 3 year old) HeGa Classic, Pizka Model w/ Marcus Bonna 
Flight Case $4,400. This horn is in excellent shape!
2. Yamaha silent brass, older model $95
3. solid desk portable stand w/accessory shelf $45
4. K&M horn stand $15
5. K&M Robby stand w/black cordura stand case. $30
6. Altieri gig bag, upgraded padding. $70
7. Pro-Tec horn case. $100
8. Lewis Mute $75
9. Top Crown stop mute $10
10. E. Schmid (8) mouthpiece $50
11. Music (email for a list)
12. water bottle holder $12
13. Mute + bottle holder $15
14. Pizka mouthpiece $50
15. Exotic wood bullet mouthpiece holder $30

I've taken pictures of all of the above so email me and I'll send 
photos if you need to see the condition of items interesting to you.
Passing this info on to your friends and colleagues is appreciated.

Leigh Alexander

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[Hornlist] EU Copyright laws

[Leigh Alexander]

Some of you might be interested in this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3256945.stm
some of you might already have seen it & the rest won't give a rat's 
patootie:-}

Leigh

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[Hornlist] NEHW 2004

[Leigh Alexander]

Northeast Hornfolks,

As of this date there still isn't a site available for the Northeast 
Regional Horn Workshop. If any of you have the ability and resources to 
host this event please contact: Marilyn Bone-Kloss at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Leigh Alexander

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Re: [Hornlist] Le Basque Follow-Up

[Leigh Alexander]

International and Lesnick did a four horn version as well, I think.  
Ken? It's in the box too isn't it?
Leigh

On Thursday, November 6, 2003, at 10:53 AM, Alan Cole wrote:

Hey, wouldn't it be cool to do an all-horn arrangement of Le Basque,  
for solo horn backed up by 4 more horns doing boom-chick?

If you couldn't get 5 hornists together, 1 capable hornist could do it  
via digital tape overdubbing.

That would be something to hear, eh?

-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
   McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn w/brass or w/wwquintet quintet feature

[Leigh Alexander]

If you want a short piece International Opus publishes "Le Basque"  
(arranged by Adam Lesnick) in both Brass and Wind 5tet versions. I saw  
them at Ken Pope's on Monday.
Leigh

On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 05:16 PM, Robert Dickow wrote:

Can anybody suggest a good piece for 'featured horn' with
horn in woodwind quintet or horn in brass quintet? I have
a couple (such as the Mozart Quintet) but need more
suggestions. It is for one of my students, and I have run
out of ideas. (Must be the weather... ;)
Bob Dickow
Hampton School of Music
University of Idaho
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Re: [Hornlist] L.A. Phil concert

[Leigh Alexander]

I was going to say something but then I thought it had been discussed  
earlier..
The hall is beautiful!!! I can't wait to see it when I go visit my  
daughter in LA. I saw some interesting things in the orchestra. First  
off; lots of women, strange thing to notice but I did. A bass (?)  
trumpet player with an injured left hand and another trumpet player  
with damage to the fingers of his right hand. Did I see this correctly?  
The alto flute playing was nice and so was the alto flute itself:-} 3  
men of colour: percussion (kinda cute:-), horn and bass. I thought the  
camera work was ok but the direction was boring. Same groups of people  
over and over. It wasn't until a pan shot that I was able to notice the  
horn section was in two rows. I'm mildly interested in what make horns  
were played. Most seemed to be nickel-silver.
Jody Foster spoke too rapidly for my liking and Catherine Zeta-Jones  
seemed nervous. I have to admit that I didn't stay tuned much for the  
last half hour as I was watching "Angel" *blush* and I tend to not like  
the pops kind of vocal stuff. I have three more PBS stations on my  
line-up so I might be able to catch it again.

Leigh

On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 12:49 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:
Surprised there are no comments so far regarding the LA Phil's program  
on
PBS last evening,i.e., the new hall,new music,conductor (new ???) and  
of
course the musical performance. Believe I counted 8 horns at one  
point...I
think the new venue will give classical music an exciting new forum.  
Sixteen
years in the planning,they said. Wow!

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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

[Leigh Alexander]

Mark,

And yet, last night the NYPhil, on the roof, playing Mozart, on David 
Letterman; whoda thought it? I'm guessing it was a repeat from last 
month?
I saw "the big man", Phil Myers;-}, but who was the guy next to him?

Leigh

On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 03:03 AM, Mark Louttit wrote:
I think we all realize that there is a larger problem here, and that 
is the
fact that support for western classical music is declining among all
demographic segments of the population.  I tend to be somewhat 
pessimistic
about the future (just my nature, I guess, the glass has always been
half-empty for me).  I fear that I don't share your optimism. The 
United
States is a much bigger country than the area south of Los Angeles.
Caveat lector
Mark L.
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Re: [Hornlist] Tuckwell "C"

[Leigh Alexander]

wee bit of snow in New England as well, same as last year.
I don't know though, the almanacs say bad, bad winter; but the woolly 
catapillery thingie says mild. Who do you trust, really;-}
Leigh

On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 12:44 AM, Hans Pizka wrote:
Greetings from snow in Munich (weather seems to return to normal, as we
had snow around Oct.22nd nearly every year, my school years, back in 
the
1950ies.
Hans
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[Hornlist] Morceau de Concert & Villanelle

[Leigh Alexander]

This is what I have surmised:

Both works were "Morceaux de Concours" jury pieces. The "Villanelle" 
was used in 1906, 1913 & 1927. The "Morceau de Concert" was used in 
1908, 1914 & 1935. It is my understanding that the teaching of hand 
horn technique as a separate discipline stopped around 1903, so it 
would stand to reason that a "Morceaux de Concours" for valveless horns 
would stop as well. This does not mean that teaching of the hand 
technique had stopped it just means that testing on valveless horns 
themselves had stopped. I'm thinking that both the "Villanelle" and the 
"Morceau de Concert" were in point of fact played on valved horns. As 
regards the general statement involving valve clusters being inserted 
during the 19 measures before the notate "with valves" that is indeed 
possible; just from what I understand, but it is not possible to remove 
the valves to play the "without valves" notated at the 6/8. It is 
likely that the piece was played on a "valved horn", using hand 
technique for the two sections marked "without valves". Remember 
students would still be judged on this technique. I think it is 
perfectly clear that the "Morceau de Concert" is a "modern" piece meant 
to be played entirely "with valves" and the only confusion lies with 
the "sons bouches" marking after the adagio. Saint-Saens did intend the 
performer to use the French style of "echo horn". That might have been 
his little nod to the hand technique still being taught, but largely 
falling out of favor.

As for the marking three measures before the "Legerement retenu" in the 
"Villanelle", the one that's causing all the confusionwell, in the 
Durand edition the marking is: "Sons Bouches" and then "(en echo)". 
According to Francis Orval, Dukas' intention _was_ what we have been 
calling echo-stopping (hand cover bell opening, finger 1/2 step up). 
However he himself and evidently Baumann (at least on my recording) 
play this "stopped"; as in slam the hand closed, go for the nasal and 
finger 1/2 step down. Orval, at least, explains that using echo horn 
here can't be distinguished and in most cases not be heard over the 
piano and possibly not over a large orchestra. As an aside I notice 
that Baumann plays the "sons bouches" in the "Morceau de Concert" also 
fully stopped.  John S. mention in a recent email that: "as a point of 
pride, I've always performed the echo horn section with the echo horn 
technique, even when I've played the piece with orchestra" and I say 
that if the orchestra is small then yes, use the "echo horn" even 
though Baumann, Orval and others might not. But if you are playing the 
"Villanelle" with a piano accompaniment then go for the "stopped" 
stylistically it works with this "modern" section and it will be heard. 
 In Sorcerer's Apprentice the marking is "(Sons d'echo)" and further 
explained by the instructions (prenez le doigte un demi-tone au dessus) 
which means "finger a 1/2 tone up". Some confusion about this passage 
could be because in a the 1958 "Orchestral Passages for the French Horn 
from the modern French Repertoire" Compiled and Edited by Phil Farkas 
and published by Durand, I believe Mr. Farkas miss translates the 
instructions as "1/2 tone _down_ rather than _up_. Every one in the US 
knew that 1/2 down was stopped and maybe this lead to other 
mistranslations of anything marked "echo". This "echo" direction seems 
to be a French stylistic technique not well known in the US in the 
early days (like that French Overture style, it isn't written as a 
double dot, but you all know to play it that way, now don't you?). 
Dukas knew what he wanted, and asked for it. However as is noticed by 
various performers the "echo stop" isn't acoustically perfect and 
performers play what they think works best. Personally I like the 
"echo" for the "Morceau de Concert" and "stopped" for the "Villanelle".

Leigh

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Re: [Hornlist] Saint Saens - Morceau de Concert

[Leigh Alexander]

The explanation I got (almost 20 years ago) was that the "sons bouches" 
meant an "echo stop" and it was explained to me that I should "cover" 
the sound by closing the hand loosely over the bell and finger up a 
half-step to give a nice mysterioso echo to the repeated figure.

Hans and others, do I understand you to say that the technique instead 
should be to close the hand entirely as if to "full stop" but not so 
much to cause the buzzing inherent in the "full stop" and still finger 
down a half step?

Leigh

On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 08:06 AM, Hans Pizka wrote:
"bouche" means "stopped" not "muted" or "half stopped". Here we go 
again
with the confusion by the term "half stopped". This term is absolutely
wrong. It should better read "muted by hand" or in German "gedaempft",
which means exactly "muting down the pitch for a half step" by half
closing the bell by hand more or less.
What explanation did you get from your teacher ?
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Re: [Hornlist] something to think HR-

[Leigh Alexander]

Hoss and Hans

Bloody h*ll, this reoccurring head-butting battle for supremacy between 
a new buck and an alpha buck is boring the cr*p out of the long-term, 
less testosterone driven of the herd!
Maybe the both of you could stop beating the rest of us to death with 
your respective banners. We've all heard this before and before and 
before.
Figure out how to get around the "reply" action of your mailer and take 
it off-list.
Leigh

On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 10:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Free country hans.Free country!  Tried to end it nicely now 
I'm just
not going to respond!
Hoss
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Re: [Hornlist] Selling horns on the internet

[Leigh Alexander]

I agree with Alan, this is the scam verbatim, to top it off this has 
all the feeling of a form letter! Anyone knowing horns, no matter what 
level of english they speak would probably not say "your PRODUCT called 
Walter Moennig". Don't do this! Probably best to just ignore the letter 
altogether, although I did read about someone who said she sent back a 
letter saying that she knew this was a fraud and that she had sent the 
who thing on to the authorities; she said she never heard from this 
person again. FWIW

definitely my couple'a lira

Leigh

On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Alan Cole wrote:
According to some recent media reports, one way this kind of scam 
works is that the "buyer" arranges for somebody to come hand you a 
bogus cashier's check & pick up the item in person.  Of course, the 
cashier's check doesn't look bogus.  From all appearances, the 
cashier's check handed over to you is the real mccoy.  Plus, the check 
amount is for several hundred dollars more than your agreed selling 
price.  So the "buyer" asks you to hand over the item you're selling, 
plus change (in cash).  The cash difference that you hand over is 
claimed to be an amount that the "buyer" owes to the person picking up 
the item, or possibly an amount necessary to pay for shipping the item 
to some far away land.  (The "buyer" says he'll handle shipping 
himself, right?)  On the surface it all seems semi-plausible.  The 
weenie is that by the time your bank discovers that the 
authentic-looking cashier's check is bogus & charges you back for the 
full amount of the bogus cashier's check, your item is gone without a 
trace & so are the person who picked up your item & the extra cash you 
handed over.  The scam is possible only because USA bank procedures 
allow cashier's checks to be paid before their authenticity can be 
ascertained.  The bad guys not only figured that out before the good 
guys could catch on, they also cooked up scams to take advantage of 
that banking wrinkle.  So beware.
-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
 ~
At 10:40 AM 10/18/2003 +0100, you wrote:
I have just received this email regarding the horn I have for sale. 
Remembering recent discussion concerning bogus buyers/sellers on the 
net, I enclose verbatim, the email. Comments anyone? The emailer goes 
by the name of Aaron Stone. Anyone heard of him?
"Hello,
 My Name is Aaroni view your advert on internet and i 
contacted my client who is in need of this kind of your product.So he 
was very excited about your product called Walter Moennig which is 
£1250,I want it shipped to starford in Algeria,I'll arrange for the 
shipping myself.Hope payment by a cashier's check will be ok.If this 
is alright with you,do get back to me mmediately so I can arrange for 
the payment.
I await to hear from your response.
Thanks"
Many thanks,
Brian.
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[Hornlist] Looking for Richard Oldberg

[Leigh Alexander]

Any Colorado hornists:

I'm looking to reconnect with Richard (Dick) Oldberg. He and his then 
wife (I don't know if they are still together) Julia Pack stayed with 
me during spring semester 99. I've got the pictures to prove it:-}
Anyway, I've lost his contact info; most specifically I would like his 
email address if anyone has it. Alternatively, if anyone is 
uncomfortable sending out his address with-out his permission/knowledge 
please feel free to forward this email to him with my best wishes and 
hopes that he will email me.

Thank you for any help,
Leigh Alexander
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Re: [Hornlist] Beware of sham buyers!

[Leigh Alexander]

Dave & all;

This sounds like a variation of the "Nigerian" scam (I think that's the 
name; it might be other names as well) I, also think, this started in 
the horse or dog breading world, has shown up in other specialist 
fields as well. The identifying marks of this scam are all the things 
that Dave has listed; sort of like the "Travelers", (never let someone 
you don't know or didn't hire directly, drive up to your house and do 
repairs) this is one of those "rings of hell" universes that most 
people don't even know exist. No matter how many times Dateline, 60 
Minutes, 24 Hours, or even the local news does a story on these 
parallel universes people still get caught and sometimes the results 
are just sad. I think we can add these people to the list of things 
that would survive a nuclear explosion; roaches, twinkies, spam (the 
food and the mail) and these people.

Leigh

On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 01:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
All,
There has been a rash recently of sham buyers for horns advertised on
hornplayer.net.  Be wary of your buyer!  There are several warning 
signs that your
buyer may not be all he or she says they are:
1. They want you to ship the horn out of the country, and even offer 
to have
their own shipper come and pick it up.
2. They offer you a certified check, but it is not in their name.
3. They offer you more than you are asking for an item, and ask you to 
send
the item along with the "change".
4. They cannot provide basic personal information to confirm their 
identity.
These people will respond to your request for more information, but 
they will
never give complete information.  Never, never, never let a buyer send 
a
shipper to pick up the item you are selling.  Do not be fooled by sham 
buyers!
Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited
Baltimore, MD
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Re: [Hornlist] horn auction

[Leigh Alexander]

Frequentin? what's that, new car smell?

Leigh

On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 05:12  PM, T. Nicholas Jones wrote:
There are three possibilities which are commercially available:
Hexyl vanillate
1,3-epoxycyclohexanecarboxylate
1,3-adamantanedicarboxylate
T. Nicholas Jones
Former 2nd Horn Bozeman Symphony Orchestra
--snip--
As an aside, are there any chemists out there that can identify the
hydrocarbon represented by the sellers ID?
John Baumgart
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Re: [Hornlist] Ballet? To whose music?

[Leigh Alexander]

In a word: Yes.
I've been under the impression that "serious" (or is that "classical"?) 
dancers/choreographers are miffed because they "need" music to dance; 
so to that end some dance companies will even schedule dance pieces 
with-out music. Pure art, doncha know;-)

On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 09:36  PM, Ralph Mazza wrote:
.. and I only went to that one because I was familiar with the 
music and counted on that to rescue the evening if I didn't like the 
dancing. Do ballet impresarios believe the music to be so trivial a 
part of the production as to be unworthy of attribution?
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Re: [Hornlist] Film Music

[Leigh Alexander]

LaNetra,

I don't know if you ever said where you live now, but don't let 
anything like the perceived cost of living stop you from going to USC 
if that's what you need to do. My daughter lives in Studio City and has 
found a nice, safe place to live for quite-a-bit less than the same 
sort of place would have cost in Portsmouth, NH (where I used to live)! 
Go, girl go, LA's not _that_ bad:-)
Leigh

On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 08:56  AM, Lanetra Carther wrote:
...I personally would love to become a studio player someday, but 
you have to go to USC for that kind of training, and there is NO WAY 
I'm going to live in LA due to their rediculous living expenses.  What 
film scores do you have?
-LaNetra
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Re: [Hornlist] Off-center mouthpiece placement

[Leigh Alexander]

Matt,
Hi! Topsham? I used to live there many, many years ago. Now it's Dover, 
NH. Have you always lived in ME? When do you think you will be up to 
playing in some groups? And how far would you be willing to travel for 
said group? Just general type questions you need to get used to when 
you are a horn player in New England:-) I hope other people in groups 
in Me have contacted you already. Sometimes another horn player is 
needed.

Re, the lip thing I'm not sure it really matters but then again, I 
think you should have a horn teacher look/listen to your playing to 
make sure that your embouchure is efficient, no matter where the 
placement. You might have a dental glitch that make it more comfortable 
to slide the mouthpiece one direction or another. If the dental glitch 
is the problem and a simple fix you might want to look into that. Do 
you think you play/sound better when you move the mouthpiece to the 
more central location? If so then you should have a teacher guide you; 
if not maybe you should just leave that sucker where it is and plod on 
ahead:-}

Leigh Alexander

On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 12:17  AM, M Pollack wrote:
I just started playing the horn again after a 14-year hiatus.  I'm now 
in my late 30's (although I do not plan to turn 40 for at least 15 
years).
I have noticed that when I picked up the horn again recently, I do the 
same thing I did long ago:  I place the mouthpiece slightly off-center 
(horizontally) against my lips.  That is, I place the mouthpiece a few 
millimeters (at least it feels like a couple of millimeters) to the 
left of the center of my lips.  Even if I try to correct it, I find 
myself subconsciously reverting to the slightly-off-center position.
My questions are these:  Does it matter?  Do I need to work hard on 
getting the mouthpiece centered, or should I work on other things?  
And if I should work on getting it centered, does anybody have any 
advice or hints for me to use when I practice?
Thanks!
Matt Pollack
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Re: [Hornlist] wind octet pieces

[Leigh Alexander]

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Daniel Canarutto wrote:
Dear list,
I'm looking for short (about 5 min) nice pieces for wind octet
(2ob,2cl,2cr,2fg), which should form the second part of a concert
program (1st part is Mozart's K.375). Any advise gratefully
appreciated.
On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 12:28  PM, David Goldberg wrote:
Franz Vincenz Krommer!  Any of his octets - they might run a little 
more
than 5 minutes, so just play until the audience screams with joy.  
Op.57
is really cool.
2cr??? crumhorns?
David Goldberg
Only if you play badly then they would be crumyhorns:-P
but I agree, I think Krommer would offset Mozart well.
But then I guess that would give you Krommyhorns
*sigh*
Leigh
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Re: [Hornlist] Gold or silver

[Leigh Alexander]

Simone;

Ask the players in your orchestra why _they_ sport the gold. Compare 
them to the answers you get from this list. It's possible a lot of the 
players in your orchestra have them because the player: think it looks 
cool, thinks it makes them look pro, the teacher has one, etc. However, 
you might get one player that has actually thought about it an made a 
decision about what is right for them. I had a gold plated mp because I 
play with a wetish embouchure and I liked the slickness and the warmth 
of the gold. My current mp doesn't come in gold and I've been to lazy 
to send it out to be plated. I've survived.

Leigh

On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 12:30  AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Dear all,
Other than the appearance, do you think that gold-plated mouthpieces 
works differently compared with silver-plated mouthpiece for the same 
brand and model of mouthpiece? Quite a lot of brass players in my 
youth orchestra use gold plated MPCs. Which do you prefer, gold or 
silver plated?
Simone
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Re: [Hornlist] Bolero Encounter

[Leigh Alexander]

On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 08:51  AM, Margaret Dikel wrote:
At 03:52 PM 9/11/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> From: "Russ Smiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I has my first encounter as third horn with Bolero tonight.   My, 
there
> are a lot of Ds!  The first horn and I thought we'd spell each 
other.  Are
> there any standard places for each part to lay off?
A good trick is to do a deal with the 2nd or 4th horn as applicable, 
and
swap octaves every repetition of the tune when you get into the 
repeated D's
(tutti) sections.
Last time I played it we used the rehearsals to work on alternate
fingerings, tonguing patterns (single, slow double, ).
We also practiced our octaves.  And we took turns taking breaks.
Yes, we behaved during the performance.
Margaret
Margaret & list;
I am given to understand that Msr. Ravel was displeased that this one 
work of his became so popular (didn't he intend it as some sort of 
dynamic study?). If this is true then misbehaving during concerts might 
get the bloody thing of the programs. Ravel would be happy, the 
orchestra would be happy and the public might come to realise that 
there are somethings from the disco era that should never-ever be 
revisited, Bolero, and cornrows on white women, two things that come to 
mind right off *yikes*
Leigh

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Re: [Hornlist] Han's are you Here?

[Leigh Alexander]

In the mean time Hoss, check out the fab. pictures and info on Hans' 
site:
www.pizka.de
I have one of his horns and I love it.
Leigh

On Saturday, September 6, 2003, at 09:09  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Hoss, I am still in Bangkok but flying home tomorrow, so I will answer
in details on Monday.
Greetings
Hans
==
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
If so I'm looking for info. on your "Pizka Classic horn".
 Please email me
some more info. as I'm very curious about your horns.
What are some of the
dimensions compared to say a Carl Geyer horn?  Pretty
much any info. you have on
your horns would be absolutely fantastic.
Thanks,

Hoss
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Just when you thought it was safe to go tothe office...

[Leigh Alexander]

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 10:02  AM, Robert Marlatt wrote:
I have played this gig a couple of times. Basically it is a seminar 
teaching teamwork to mid/upper-level managers. The approach is a 
little cheesy (cabbage? I'm ready), but it is fun to see how the 
participants react to what we do. The conductor is extremely 
respectful of the musicians, and in that respect I applaud him for 
presenting our art to a captured audience. It's a little weird getting 
dressed in formal tails for the presentation, but that is all part of 
the schtick.
I'm glad she cross posted:-} I read the article and I thought this was 
a really great idea; when one is manager I bet there are a lot of 
management training seminars one is dragged kicking and screaming to. I 
remember the TMQ crap that went (still goes?) on in the Armed Services 
*gack*. Maybe the military service/field bands could be used when it's 
time to teach the officers that micro-managing doesn't work.

Now if corporate America could find a way to use this approach to teach 
morality to it's top level execs.

Leigh

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Re: [Hornlist] Paxman Posters

[Leigh Alexander]

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 07:53  AM, Tom Warner wrote:
Get'em while they're hot. They're cheap but, it's one to a customer.


Thanks Tom:-}
Just put my order in; I'll frame it when it arrives.
Anybody who crashes in my guest room will know what to expect:-}
Leigh

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Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!

[Leigh Alexander]

On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 04:15  PM, David Goldberg wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, John Kowalchuk wrote:

P.S.
Those of us in the Toronto area still shudder at the mention of CDC.
OK then, special trill instruction for our acronymically distressed
Canadian friends: CACACACACA...
Oh poop, that's just what my trills sound like:-P

Leigh

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Re: [Hornlist] PopCorno (Hot & Buttery)

[Leigh Alexander]

Hornfolks,
I went to Martin Layman's personal website and discovered that he is 
not only a hornist but a dentist as well, I invited him to join the 
list and he has done so. Here's to welcoming Dr. Layman:-}

Leigh

On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 10:37  PM, Alan Cole wrote:

Dear Friends:

After a 15-year hiatus from playing, Northeastern Ohio free-lance 
hornist Martin Layman has just recently brought out an interesting & 
engaging CD that he has titled PopCorno (Hot & Buttery), consisting 
of...

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Re: [Hornlist] Concertstuck recordings?

[Leigh Alexander]

Speaking of Mr. Oldberg, does anybody have an email address for him? 
I've lost all my info on him and I'd like to get in touch with him 
again.
Leigh

On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 01:32  PM, Robert Marlatt wrote:

Where can we find this cd re-release of the 
Clevenger/Oldberg/Schweikert/Brouk/CSO Konzertstuck?

Bob Marlatt
Boston MA
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Re: [Hornlist] Rednecks...in Germany!

[Leigh Alexander]

And if  you had put in the powdered grape seeds and skins you would 
have had a spa experience some people pay hundreds of euros/bucks for!

Sounds like a fabulous day, good for you:-} (see, I'm not envious or 
anything)

Leigh

On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 04:04  AM, Scott Bacon Dürkhorns wrote:

This past week was extremely hot.  45° c in the sun.  So after working 
on
some horns, and calling it a day, we had a few beers, listened to 
Bruckner
9, and decided it was just a little too hot to do anything.  But we 
chose to
make our own outdoor whirlpool.  We used a neighbors big plastic grape
storage bin.  In this region of Germany you have a plethora of German
Redneck Winemakers to borrow tractors, tools, big plastic grape storage
bins Etc.  Well anyway in a slow and easy going manner, we 
borrowed the
tractor and rode through town drinkin our beers in the wagon while 
holdin on
to the big plastic grape storage bin...  Where I live in town happens 
to be
owned by a famous schnapps maker.  (anyone out there heard of Williams
Schnapps?) ... anyway he always has this big white water tank nearly 
full
and the problem is always where to get rid of the water  So we 
filled
this big plastic grape storage bin with water, drank a beer, put on 
the rest
of Bruckner 9, and had a sit down in the big plastic grape storage 
bin.  Not
long into the 2nd movement, our buddy came up with the idea to snag 
this
whirlpool bath thing from his mother-in-law.  He snagged this 
whirlpool bath
thing and put it in the big plastic grape storage bin.  Within minutes 
we
had an outdoor whirlpool with a shade umbrella decorated with xmas 
lights,
Bruckner 9 finishing up his ideas, beer, bikinis, and a real hoot of a
party.  And yes all who went in the big plastic grape storage bin came 
out
smelling like grapes!!
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Re: [Hornlist] Sheet Music

[Leigh Alexander]

Now, can anyone recommend a site as good as Lucksmusic, but for concert 
band?

Leigh

On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 03:18  AM, Josh Cheuvront wrote:

I prefer to deal with Luck's music in Michigan(1-800-348-8749).  They 
have a
nice website at www.lucksmusic.com  They have their entire catalog 
available
on the website in .pdf format. I've found their selection to be 
the same
as Kalmus as well as having some pieces Kalmus didn't have.
snipping good info

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Re: [Hornlist] Banal fixations on the hornlist

[Leigh Alexander]

I'm Sorry!

Oh, wait...you meant _just_ Dave...*sigh*

;-P Leigh

On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, at 01:31  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
**
Non disputandum yourself, Dave.  I prefer a Schmid
Double-scoop maple-walnut myself, and I think
the hot fudge sauce will give it just the zing it
needs for the Short Call I play next week.
If you apologize, I'll let you lick my right hand after
the solo is over.
Gotta go,
Cabbage
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Re:[Hornlist] Lip injury experts?

[Leigh Alexander]

whoa folks;
I love playing in horn & brass ensembles at workshops. One that was 
particularly fun for me was directed by Hans. I think it's more ego not 
to play in these groups especially, using the "blast" rational. I don't 
blast, I play what is written. If my part can't be heard then it's up 
to the conductor to mention this fact; and if I think the reason he 
can't hear me is because there are "elephants" on the other parts then 
I will say so. I _do not_ waste my time trying to out-play these bozos. 
You will never win this fight & by staying away you only perpetuate 
their sort of behaviour & deny yourself the chance to play this music. 
I participate for myself not for anyone else. If nothing else I am 
always reminded of what that kind of playing sounds like. One can never 
have too many reminders of what it sounds like to play like an 
"elephant".
Leigh

On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 12:27  PM, Hans Pizka wrote:

Bravo, bravo & bravo again ! Why do you dare to express it here on THIS
list, where we see the opinion of so many EGO-experts, specially with
the younger members.
Greetings from Munich.
=
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im
Auftrag von Chris Tedesco
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Juli 2003 17:04
An: The Horn List
Betreff: Re: AW: [Hornlist] Lip injury experts?
This is the exact reason I try to avoid playing in horn or brass
workshop
ensembles.  Most of the musicians play disgustingly loud and
unmusically.
Everyone feels they must be heard regardless of the printed music or
otherwise.


Chris



--- Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...SNIP..
Why do the youngsters have all these lip injuries from playing in the
summer camps ? The teachers there are crazy to conduct, so they put
the
schedule full as possible, no matter the youngsters are prepared fore
that or not. And the youngsters ? Well, they become orgiastic to get
heard in the crowd, no matter it would make sense or not, just to
please
the ego, they exaggerate their limits too far. So they use a lot of
"left hand pressure" & overpress & overblow the lips.
It is no permanent damage (except rare cases), and the momentarian
pain
is a excellent lecture for them to change their habit forever.



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Re: [Hornlist] A positive example

[Leigh Alexander]

Amen, brothers & sisters! The hardest part for me is listening to the 
negative, filtering, and letting it go; I was raised to believe every 
nasty thing said to or about me. Never mind play the horn, there's a 
life time of work in getting over that! :-}
Leigh

On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 01:05  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all,
Part of the way our brains are put together makes it very useful to
express things we wish to accomplish in a "positive" manner.  Consider 
for instance
that it's very difficult to break a bad habit by saying "don't do 
that".  Our
subconscious, which has a hard time with negative concepts tends to 
interpret ..
alot of really great stuff..
-Steve Mumford
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn in C anyone?

[Leigh Alexander]

On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 05:09  PM, Leonard & Peggy Brown wrote:

No has brought up this C horn on Ebay... do you enjoy transposing  
everything
to Eb?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2539246864&category=16215

Leonard, city of frijoles

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[Hornlist] La Choisy

[Leigh Alexander]

The question following the star border is one I sent this to the list a 
few days ago and (as of now) I haven't received any responses. I can't 
believe that no one on this list can help me out on this:-} Now that 
all are home safely from Bloomington, I'm going to try again.
Leigh
***
Hornfolks;

I'm looking for the score to the Michel Corrette "La Choisy" I've seen 
one copy on Sheetmusic.com. Has anyone on the list dealt with them?
I'm open to other resources (from other countries than the US if needs 
be) if you'd all like to share what info you have.

Thank you all,
Leigh
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Re: [Hornlist] Cabbage reports on Bloomington

[Leigh Alexander]

Arrrg, Cabbage, me matey:

Hoisted on yer own pitard;-}

Nice review though, I find it simulates having been there.

Leigh

On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 05:45  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 6/9/2003 5:36:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Many list members commented
on how simulating my postings have been.
Very much as my postings are, however, mine are genuine simulations, 
whereas
we all know that Cabbages are fake simulations.

Dave Weiner
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Re: [Hornlist] Junk Horn Project

[Leigh Alexander]

Bob,
That's what the back yard is for;-P Of course not if you live in the 
"Tropical Rain Forrest" that is New Hampshire. Yeach! I love rainy 
weather and _this_ is getting to be a bit much even for me.
Leigh

On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 09:54  AM, Robert Losin wrote:

At 00:21 08-06-03, you wrote:
The damned thing is almost four feet long {over 1 metre}, and should 
be fun getting enough clearance/headroom around the bench to do it in 
one shot.

  Thanks for playing...

Bob
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[Hornlist] La Choisy

[Leigh Alexander]

Hornfolks;

I'm looking for the score to the Michel Corrette "La Choisy" I've seen 
one copy on Sheetmusic.com. Has anyone on the list dealt with them?
I'm open to other resources (from other countries than the US if needs 
be) if you'd all like to share what info you have.

Thank you all,
Leigh
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Re: [Hornlist] What Darcy discovered

[Leigh Alexander]

Woo hoo! Darcy's been cababaged:-}
Leigh
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 02:55  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I dunno, Darcy, unless you specify which sort of carboard boxes were 
in the
warehouse, how do you expect us to agree with you?  Were they 
corrugated
or single wall?  Were they full, empty, or folded up?  Were they 
slotted
containers, mailers, vari-depth folders, bulk mailers, five panel 
folders, or
bin boxes?  Why these excerpts?  Why not Box Brandenburg Concerto No 1?

Gotta go,
Cabbage
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Re: [Hornlist] A question for the list

[Leigh Alexander]

Hornfolks;

	I must be one of the few community hornist who doesn't like the idea 
of rotating parts. I especially don't like parts to be rotated during a 
concert. If physically moving people is the solution to rotation of 
parts, then concerts start to look like some sort insane version of 
Cirque du Soleil; waiting for the trumpets to move around and the 
percussion to reset is bad enough. If no one switches chairs, just 
music, what kind of list would the conductor have to keep so that he 
knew where his principal for any particular work happened to be 
sitting? Our conductor knows how to conduct, so cues are a wonderful 
and strangely normal part of his conducting.  Besides, our band is set 
up so that the principal player of each section is in close proximity 
to another principal player. Moving your 1st horn part to the middle of 
the section is just setting yourselves up for blending and intonation 
problems.  Changing from concert to concert is fine (I guess) if the 
section is up for that.

	My horn section, also, has recently developed the situation wherein 
people just started to show up to play horn. Of course they weren't in 
attendance for every rehearsal and one person (med student/intern) 
wouldn't show up sometimes until the concert and maybe one or two 
rehearsals and not always the dress. If everyone showed up we had 9 
horns. Now, we have a huge band (lots of great clarinets, flutes, two 
bassoons, oboes (!) a full compliment of saxes and low brass players to 
kill for) so the band can handle the 9 players, I guess.
Here's what happened: when I joined the band I took the 4th part 
because, well, I like 4th and because the other members of the horn 
section had been with the group for a while and wanted to "move up" in 
the section. Both players on principal are very good hornist, so that's 
not the problem. The problem started when the intern (who was playing 
2nd 4th with me) wasn't showing up to rehearsals. So I was playing 4th 
alone often against 6 other hornist. Not a problem really, except I 
don't like the idea of someone just showing up for a rehearsal (or two) 
and then the concert.  With seven (good) horns available all the time 
it's not like this player was saving our bacon or anything. The real 
problem (for me) started when these other two horn players just showed 
up. So the section leader moved me up to 2nd 3rd and the two new 
players were put on 4th. By the second rehearsal it became clear that 
there were rehearsals they couldn't make and a performance one or both 
couldn't make so (as I was there all the time) I moved back to 4th 
while one of the newbies moved to 2nd 3rd and the other stayed on 2nd 
4th. This way those of us who were there for every rehearsal and every 
performance were sitting on first stand each part. I began to dislike 
the uncomfortable feeling of flux that the section now seemed to be in. 
To top it off the player who moved to 2nd 3rd seemed to think I was a 
more inferior player since I was on forth and proceeded to "take an 
interest in my development" as a horn player. Very bossy, very touchy 
feelie (gack:-b) and wouldn't back off until I'd finally had it and was 
snappish in reply to a command.

I haven't been back to band since. Should I talk to the conductor or 
start with the section leader?
Or, should I just move on and take that 10 week woodworking class that 
meets during rehearsal and thereby save myself the hour drive each way, 
the petrol, and the 3.50 in tolls? Other solutions out there?

Leigh

On Sunday, Mar 2, 2003, at 02:02 US/Eastern, Luke Zyla wrote:

Every section in the band should rotate to give everyone a chance to 
play
first.  Some, of course, may not feel up to the task, so the director 
should
discuss part assignments with each section.  Perhaps a section leader,
elected by the members of the section, could administer the assignment 
of
part with input by the director.

snip, snip

I need some input about a situation that has developed in our 
community
concert band.

We are experiencing a period of significant growth, adding almost one
player
per week.  Currently we have 50 musicians, five of them playing horn. 
 Our
regular horn section has been four players for some time.  They are 
all
friends and have divided parts between them as they see fit, always 
with
my
approval.  This has worked well in the past.

Our principal horn is a dedicated amateur.  She has been a member of 
the
band for many years.  She plays at an adequate level, although she is
still
challenged by "Siegfried's Rhine Journey".  I have kept this in the
folders
for several years to encourage her to master the part.  Recently we 
added
snip snip

How can I best incorporate him into the section so that he stays
interested
and no one else is offended or feels slighted?

Guy Hayden, Music Director and Conductor
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Re: [Hornlist] Another Oddball Horn

[Leigh Alexander]

boy is my face red:-}

On Wednesday, Nov 27, 2002, at 08:52 US/Eastern, Leigh Alexander wrote:


Seriously? Man, that is one clunky look'n horn.
Snowing up your way? Kiss your mom hi for me. Then kiss yourself!
Hahahahah, heeeheehee, hoho snort.
LL



On Wednesday, Nov 27, 2002, at 00:01 US/Eastern, John Kowalchuk wrote:


At 08:23 PM 11/26/02 -0500, Alan Cole wrote:

Oo-e, what a strange looking horn!


A friend of mine went through college with a Lidl just like it.

John Kowalchuk  maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes
Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1

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Re: [Hornlist] Another Oddball Horn

[Leigh Alexander]

Seriously? Man, that is one clunky look'n horn.
Snowing up your way? Kiss your mom hi for me. Then kiss yourself!
Hahahahah, heeeheehee, hoho snort.
LL



On Wednesday, Nov 27, 2002, at 00:01 US/Eastern, John Kowalchuk wrote:


At 08:23 PM 11/26/02 -0500, Alan Cole wrote:

Oo-e, what a strange looking horn!


A friend of mine went through college with a Lidl just like it.

John Kowalchuk  maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes
Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1

Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it.
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Re: [Hornlist] triple tonguing

[Leigh Alexander]

On Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002, at 05:44 US/Eastern, Prof.Hans Pizka wrote:


And the flutter tongue ? Why so curious about it ?


Hans, I don't want to be curious; but it's a circus trick some
composers ask us to perform. Apparently they can't let the flutes have
all the fun:-| When ever we complain about having to play (never mind
learn) this  stuff (anyone ever play a band piece that calls for a cup
mute? I have) we're seen as elitest, whining, prima-donnas. In some
horn sections I've been in you can almost hear the face shields come
down and the swords unsheathFREDOM!


Why not thinking about a clean & steady tone first. Dont many of you
have this problem first ? Or the problem of hitting the right note ?


Yes, Yes some of us do have these problems and work on them all the
time; but sometimes "you has to play what the conductor gives you". I
don't envision ever saying: Ya know maestro, I'm not there yet in my
studies, could you put this off until I am?"  Instead I say "never let
'em see ya sweat". So, I take a big swig of a good beer, whine to the
cat for a while, then off I go to learn how to do some boneheaded trick
who's "special effect" will last all of 2.3 seconds (depending on
tempo).

Look at it this way: tricks come in useful at the horn conference
during that all important setting of the pecking order. I prefer my
placement at the bottom of the order; everyone knows all the good beer
and the fun people are in the basement anyway.

Ones articulation might still be below par and you still bobble pp high
g entrances; but you can distract the hoi-polloi  with a pandora's box
of tricks. Don't forget to brush up on your multiphonics while you're
at it.

Now go out there and make mamma proud!

Leigh

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Re: [Hornlist] beer, wine & Wagner?

[Leigh Alexander]

John,
I would have thought Wagner on hockey skates _would_ be just the
thing to get Canadians in to hear opera:-p

Leigh

On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 09:35 PM, John Kowalchuk wrote:


Prof. Pizka writes:
When Siegfried enters Mime's living room (?) he is dressed with a
black pullover including the hood like worn by icehockey players.


I REALLY hope they don't do something like this in two years when the
Canadian Opera Company stages the whole Ring Cycle!

John Kowalchuk  maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes


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Re: [Hornlist] beer, wine & Wagner?

[Leigh Alexander]

Hans,
You don't get paid enough!
Leigh

On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 01:08 PM, Leonard & Peggy Brown wrote:
Hans,
What the hell have you been drinking?
Where can I get some?
LB


Prof. Pizka writes:
I should report here about our new Siegfried as we had our first
rehearsal with the stage today.

When Siegfried enters Mime=B4s living room (?) he is dressed with a
black pullover including the hood like worn by icehockey players. He
also wears a silky silver & black blouse with dark read big numbers
and letters on the back (team name ?) like Ice Hockey fans wear. He
also carries a 30" long thick radio-tape machine and drives a bike.
Anyway, he has to act like a full idiot at IQ 35-.


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