[Hornlist] Players Musicians
Sorry about the double post-- I just wanted to get as many ideas about this topic as I can. I look forward to hearing input, and hopefully very little heated disagreement. Also, I really enjoyed meeting a lot of you in person this past week; it was nice to put some faces with the names. It seemed to me that a theme that was present throughout the conference (especially the Pedagogical Pearls and Meet the Masters sessions) was the state of music education. The information that I took is that today, a large portion of the teaching community is very focused on getting students through an audition—so much so that we lose individual musicianship. On Tuesday, Dr. Hill stressed the need for teachers to focus on teaching each student. We are not teaching horn, we are teaching individuals (or something to that effect). I remember that during the Meet the Masters session Mr. Cerminaro said something to the effect of (and I am paraphrasing, I don't remember exactly what it was that he said), All of us on this stage are great musicians first and great horn players second. I thought that that was a very good point. They spent some of the time talking about students who do not understand the historical and musical contexts for the music that they play. The problem seems to me to be whether students are being taught to be players or musicians. I'm sure that we have all heard players who hit the right notes, but are uninspiring (sometimes even boring) to hear. I had class with a piano professor who was very fond of encouraging us to play expressively saying, …that's why they call it 'music' and not 'notes.' As tired as I got of hearing that, it has stuck with me and is one I've even used when I teach my middle school and high school students. I wonder how long this trend will continue. Certainly the system will stop short of educating students who are technically proficient but fail to play musically. I am curious as to what everyone's thoughts are on this, and is this as severe a problem outside the US? Thanks William Foss ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Mouthpiece scratch
What I'm wondering is whether or not I should have to worry about how natural fabrics will interact with my synthetic valve oil and vice versa. William Foss On 5/13/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tails in the concert Hall, casual behind the stage, alpine dress in the forest, no dress in the bath room. ___ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Missouri Horn Day
Hello-- I would like to extend an invitation to everyone for Missouri Horn Day on April 19th. The event is held at the University of Central Missouri in Warrensburg, Missouri. There is no registration fee (or any other fee for that matter). We will have a number of presentations as well as times for horn choirs/ quartets/ any other horn group to perform, and the day will finish with a mass horn choir. We would love to have you there. For any further information, please contact Dr. Gary Moege at [EMAIL PROTECTED] William Foss ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Edgy Sound
Dear List, I play on a Holton 281 (a Farkas horn with a rose brass screw bell) and I have a problem with the edgy sound. I am going to describe it as best I can, if something is unclear, let me know and I will try to clarify before someone gets angry (I realize that might take all the fun out of it). There is a point on the dynamic spectrum at which I can no longer play with a 'normal' tone. At this point, which isn't very loud, the sound gets edgy and I don't feel that I have much control over the tone quality. For some time now, I have tried without success to get this problem under control. I realize that this brassy, edgy sound can sometimes be desirable as an effect. However, the undesirable sound is produced whether I am trying to sound brassy or not. Is there a set of etudes for this kind of problem? I would appreciate any advice on the subject. Thanks in advance. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. _ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Saint-Saens op. 94
I'm looking for background information on the Morceau de Concert by Saint-Saens, I haven't had any luck and I would appreciate any information that anyone can give me. Thank you very much William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. _ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Missouri Horn Day
Dear List I would like to invite everyone to Missouri Horn Day on April 14. Here is a link to more information: http://hornsociety.org/NETWORK/user-news/user-news-article.asp?title=Missouri+Horn+Day It's not listed in the article, but we are considering a smash-a-mellophone fundraiser (it has been done with pianos, and what instrument would horn players rather smash?). Of course, the smashing will be done with good humor, not maliciously. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. _ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102tcode=T001MSN20A0701 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bartok hand stopping
As for the use of the stopping mute. I have a very small hand and have always had an issue with hand stopping, even though I play on an Alex 103 Here is a thing that I have heard mentioned as a solution for such a problem: http://www.pyp.f2s.com/html/ease_stop.htm I think it would work- I haven't ever used it myself- but it seems like a good idea. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Practice mutes
Dear List- Speaking of practice mutes, I heard a story from my horn teacher about a band director who was needing to buy mutes for his horns. He saw in the catalogue, practice mutes and bought several of those, thinking that he would upgrade his horn players to real mutes when they got good enough. He wasn't sure what to do when, after receiving the mutes, he couldn't hear the horns at all. Ha ha. That story is up there with the story of the band director who got his brass players in tune and then soldered the slides in place so that they would always be in tune. I hope that these are only stories, but I'm not so sure. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. _ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095tcode=wlmtagline ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Kling 40 Etudes
Dear List For the coming Spring semester, I need to get a copy of Henri Kling's 40 Characteristic Etudes. I need the International edition (edited by Chambers) and not the Southern Music Co. edition (edited by Sansone). I have tried to find the Chambers edition but I haven't had any luck so far. If anyone knows where I can find a copy, please let me know. Thanks in advance. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. _ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] eBay Horn
I can't believe that nobody has snapped this up- it's such a practical thing! http://cgi.ebay.com/Bb-Professional-Piccolo-French-Horn-Verry-Rare_W0QQitemZ110055738938QQihZ001QQcategoryZ16215QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Although, stopping would be difficult to do without your fingers ending up in your mouth. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Missouri Horn Day
Dear List, On Saturday, April 22, Central Missouri State University in Warrensburg Missouri is hosting Missouri Horn Day. There will be several workshops through the day, performances by horn ensembles from several Universities, also a mass horn choir. You do not need to be from Missouri to attend, there are groups coming from other states as well. For more information, please contact Dr. Gary Moege [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your time William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. Will they stop teaching music in Kansas? After all, it's only theory. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Jokes (NHR)
His private library of two books (2) burned to ashes. It did not harm him that much, except the fact, that he had not finished the task pencil colouring the second book .. I wonder if it is an original about him or if it's one of the proto-jokes just resurfacing when the time is right? I believe that one is a recycled joke. If I remember correctly, I've seen a clip of Carson saying that about Reagan. I've also seen it in a Henny Youngman joke book. It might go back even farther than that. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. Will they stop teaching music in Kansas? After all, it's only theory. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Reynolds 6C
Dear List, I am looking for a Reynolds Pottag model 6C mouthpiece. If anyone can offer any assistance, please contact me off-list. Thank you William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. Will they stop teaching music in Kansas? After all, it's only theory. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] (Very Late) Survey Results
Dear List I'm very sorry that this is so late. I just ran across the disk I had the information on today, and thought that I would share the results of the survey I did a couple of months ago: Practice times averages: Mean: 9.9 hours per week. Median and mode were both 7 hours per week. The standard deviation was 10.2 86% of those who replied practice between -.3 and 20.1 hours per week. (one standard deviation from the mean) 96% of the same practice between -9.9 and 30.3 hours per week (two standard deviations from the mean) Thank you to everyone who responded to my survey, in case I have not thanked you already. I feel that the biggest thing I learned from this project is that a lot of people who love to play, and make the time to play don't consider themselves serious players. In my opinion, those who have a life outside of horn and find a way to include horn are indeed serious players. Hooray for the amateur hornist! William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. Will they stop teaching music in Kansas? After all, it's only theory. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Thank You
Dear List, I would like to thank all of you, I now have many more than enough responses. I will share the results of this little poll just as soon as I have them. Thanks again William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Survey
Dear Ron, Thank you for responding to my survey, ans also for being one of the first. I wasn't sure what kind of response I would get, I needed fifty, but I surpassed my goal. Thanks again, William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Survey Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:09:58 EST I am not a professional, but would like to be. I practice three 45 minute sessions a day, every day. On days I play in ensembles, 2 1/2 hours on mf and 4 hours on w, I practice about 45 minutes on mf, and none on w. But then I'm trying to get there. Ron ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skippy_the_wonderguy%40hotmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
Dear List I am in desperate need of more responses! I think that I will now open the survey to include anyone. No matter how much you practice please contact me privately or on-list as soon as is possible and give me a rough estimation of how many hours you practice on a weekly basis, if it isn't too much trouble. Thank you William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Another Survey Revision
Dear List, I am testing my hypothesis that I can get my homework turned in (ha ha). The assignment is to take a sample space of fifty (in my case, horn players) the example was to take 50 small bags of MMs and count the number of a certain color in each bag. Or, we could poll a group of fifty people, asking a question with a number for the answer. From there, we measure the central tendency, make a frequency distribution table, pie graph, find variance, standard deviation and then find the intervals of 1,2,3 of the standard deviation. I appreciate the questions that you have for me, they are very similar to those the teacher gave the class to apply to this assignment. I am not really testing any hypothesis, however. The interpretation of the data will not be anything other than this is approximately how much the average horn player practices. Also, now that I think about it, the title of serious horn player was a very poor choice of words. I think that anyone on this list is serious enough to pay attention to the horn world outside of playing is a serious horn person. Some of the people who have sent me results manage to find the time to play, have a life, and have a job all at the same time. I think that that signifies a person who is serious about horn. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. I hate to pester, but I'll take this announcement to repost my earlier question, as I think it is even more applicable now that responses are requested from such a wide variety of people: Though I am sure there are greater experts than I out on the list, I'll do my duty as a doctoral student in a research program (meaning, I've suffered my share of statistics courses) and ask you, William, about what exactly you have in mind for your survey. What hypotheses are you testing with the survey? Is there anything in particular you are trying to demonstrate or support with the info you gather? Is it just the one question regarding hours of practice? What types of analyses are you considering running? Are you just going to do some descriptive analyses and wanted some fun data, or are there any questions you are trying to answer? Knowing the answers to these questions will do wonders for clarifying your potential respondent pool and the phrasing in your survey, and will also help other list members give you the best data you can get. Best of luck, keep us updated! Erin Block Grad. Student, I/O Psychology St. Louis, MO William Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List I am in desperate need of more responses! I think that I will now open the survey to include anyone. No matter how much you practice please contact me privately or on-list as soon as is possible and give me a rough estimation of how many hours you practice on a weekly basis, if it isn't too much trouble. Thank you William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ireland1006%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skippy_the_wonderguy%40hotmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Final Plea
Dear List, If there is a player at any level out there who has not responded, please do so! Right now I am about ten players short of fifty, which is the minimum for this project. Please, if you would not mind, send me the number of hours, or close, that you (or even someone you know) practice each week. Thanks everyone for your help William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Survey Revision
Dear List, I think that I will modify the amount of people who can respond, because I need more responses. If you consider yourself a fairly serious player; if you practice or play regularly, please send me privately or on-list an approximate amount of time that you practice on a weekly basis. Thank you William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Survey Revision
Dear List, I should have been more specific in my description of a serious player. I would say that a serious player might play with a community group or two on a regular basis and also devotes a sizeable amount of time to practicing on his or her own. This is not to say that anyone who does not fit this description is not a serious player, rather, it is simply the term that I will use for my project. I hope that everyone does not get stuck on my use of serious player, because I don't mean to put anyone down. I would like to include practicing only, please, because rehearsals are not continuous playing, like practicing is. Thank you very much William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Survey Revision
Your informations are definitely wrong. Have you ever attended a rehearsal of a Bruckner Symphony or a Mahler Symphony ? I doubt that. There is so much to play that everyone is happy at the break. Do you earnestly think that practising is continuous playing ? In my limited experience, I have not attended a rehearsal of either. I was operating within the limited boundaries of my own experience; rehearsals stop and start, the conductor asks for something different, we play again. And so on. I will try to make less generalizations in the future. I do not think of practicing as continuous playing. That was simply a poor choice of words on my part. What I meant was the time that you set aside for practicing. For example, I just (4:15- 5:50) set aside an hour and a half. I did not practice for the entire hour and a half, I took many short breaks but the majority was playing. I apologize again for my poor choice of words William Foss ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Survey
Dear List, I am doing a statistics for my math class. My topic is practice habits of professional players. If as many teachers or professional players could let me know: How many hours per week do you practice? The requirements of the project require the poll to include fifty people. So, I would like to get as many replies as possible. Feel free to contact me privately or on-list. Thank you very much William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Survey
Dear List, The question relates to statistics; I have to have something that averages to a solid number. Then, I will create a frequency distribution table to represent the data, find central tendency, variance, and standard deviation. The question is one that simply gives a single set of numbers. That is all that I am looking for. William Foss Paul Ingraham's advice to young horn players: Find a good teacher. Practice diligently. Watch what you say to your colleagues. At 1:12 PM + 11/12/05, William Foss wrote: I am doing a statistics for my math class. My topic is practice habits of professional players. If as many teachers or professional players could let me know: How many hours per week do you practice? Will you please explain how this relates to mathematics? Thanks. Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Pinky Problems
Dear List, When I play every day for a long period of time, I get a pain in my pinky finger. The pain, which shows up about 45-50 minutes into a practice session, extends from the knuckle of my finger to my wrist. However, if I rest for about five minutes or so, I can play for a little while longer before the pain returns. The problem has been occurring off and on for quite a while now. I'm not sure what causes it; I don't have an especially heavy horn, nor do I use a lot of mouthpiece pressure. When the pain gets too bad I can't hold the horn, which presents a problem to playing. Should I tie several dozen balloons to my horn to reduce the pressure, or is there another option? I would appreciate any advice to help with this problem. Thank you William Foss ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Coins (NHR)
Not too long ago, I noticed that the US mint was reintroducing the buffalo nickel into circulation in honor of the 200th anniversary of the Louisiana purchase. I suppose that you could call that the BISON-tennial. (This just might be horn related- if someone attached the nickels to the valve levers) William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Horn and NPR
There was a piece about a Jazz Horn player on NPR, that was very good that I heard a couple years ago. I heard it and found it very informative. Tom Varner studied Jazz Horn with a former member of the Basie big band, I believe. He has a some interesting experiences, saying at one point in the interview Playing horn is like trying to dance a ballet- on ice- in your socks. Might be worth listening to. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1517956 William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] holton 192 or 176
I have a Holton 281 (brass Farkas with a bronze screw bell), and I hope that this is in some way helpful. When I was looking for a horn two years ago, I found out that the 281 is more open feeling than the Holton 180 (Brass Farkas). However, this might only be true for the ones I played, also taking into account every other variable. Before I bought the horn, the salesman advised me to buy the horn as a screw bell, because the bronze is weak because of copper content, so it bends and dents too easily, but having the screw bell ring helps this. I don't know how true any of this is, but I like the Holton 281, it's a good horn for the money. Another thing the salesman told me was that there is no perfect horn; that would take all of the sport out of playing. William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller From: Hunt,Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] holton 192 or 176 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:00:25 -0500 Anybody had a chance to try the H-192. It is a Gye wrap with the Merker dual bore. what about horns they make with bronze bells, the 105 and the 176? Any epxerience? tom in iowa ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Bell Shape
As I was looking at horn pictures, I found the following: http://www.hornsaplenty.com/horns/2_1258.html I noticed that the bell of this horn slopes at about the same angle, making it resemble a funnel (or a little chocolate Hershey's Kiss). Investigating further, found that early horns had similar bells. However, bells are not shaped that way now. What acoustical differences are there because of the Hershey's Kiss bell? Why are bells shaped differently now? Was this change gradual, based on trial and error, or is there a certain horn that changed the ideas about bell shape? I would appreciate any responses to any question. Thank You, William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Villanelle
As strange as this might sound, I am a High school senior who played Villanelle by Paul Dukas for the solo ensemble contest. I got a One rating and will advance to the state level. I have been working on this piece for about a year, to get it to this point (which earned me a scholarship at Central Missouri State University, where I am going to study Horn in the fall) and I am wondering what kinds of advice everyone can offer on this piece. Also, if anyone can tell me about any good recordings of Villanelle, I have the Brain recording, have heard the Baumann recording a few times, and am having trouble finding the Arthur Berv recording. Thanks, William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Missouri All-district
Just to let everyone know: I got through the district audition. I ended up second, right behind a terrific player. So now I go on to try for the all-state Band and Orchestra. I feel like some of this is due to (or maybe despite) the tips I got from those who responded here. Thank you very much. Also on the Kopprasch no. 30- In the Carl Fischer edition there is an A above the staff in measure 26 that sounds bad; my teacher has a different edition that shows the note as an A flat. If everyone could look through your own books and let me know what you have, I would appreciate it very much. William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Missouri All State Audition Pieces
The Missouri State High School Activities Association is just about to hold their District and State Band and Orchestra auditions, the materials all Horn players are the required to try out on (in addition to scales) are: Pottag-Hovey p.31 #128 Kopprasch- 60 Selected Studies p. 6 #8 and pgs. 20-21 #30 Preparatory Melodies to p.22 #56 If anyone has any suggestions regarding tempo, phrasing, dynamics, or anything at all I would very much appreciate hearing them. Thanks William Foss _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Kowalchuk Mutes
Continuing my previous mute question, I have found the Kowalchuk mutes to be some of the best on the market and I am wondering if they hold up well in the low register. the specific passage I am concerned about is the muted part in 'Villanelle' by Paul Dukas, which goes to a low Eb while muted, so I would like to know the quality of the note as well as the quality of the low range in general. Thanks William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Quel Sourdine?
I am in the process of working on a piece called 'Villanelle' by Paul Dukas. There is a part of the piece that requires a straight mute; I don't have one and I would like to get everyone's opinion about the best kind of mute (in terms of quality, price, intonation problems, etc.). I don't really want to get a mute that is too expensive, but I would like to have a mute that will last for years and years. This isn't a rush situation, because I am going to perform this piece for college scholarship auditions next winter and at at Solo and Ensemble contest in the spring. Thanks for all your help William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller _ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-uspage=hotmail/es2ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Accepted!
I just found out that I have been accepted into the 2004 Missouri FIne Arts Academy. Only 200 students from the entire state are chosen every year in areas such as Instrumental music, visual arts, vocal music, etc. That's about all I know about it. To get in I had to send off an audition tape with a slow, melodic etude and a technical etude, in addition to essays about fine arts in my life and my dreams for the future. For the melodic etude, I chose one from the Pottag book that I really liked that was also All State audition material. The technical was a page long exercise from Kopprasch; it was a killer. Just thought I should share this with all of you, whom I would like to thank for increasing my knowledge and helping me get this spot. William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller _ Get a FREE online virus check for your PC here, from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Clarifying
The etudes I played for the audition were: Kopprasch p. 13 #19 and, not Pottag-Hovey, but Preparatory Melodies p. 27 #67. So if you want to get out your books and see what I played, you can. William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller _ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] No more wisdom (teeth)
After getting my wisdom teeth out and sitting out about 2 weeks, I have picked up my horn again. Picking it up was the easy part, when I got around to playing I could tell I was in trouble. I can hardly play: I can't really feel the notes too well, and my sound is shaky. (On the bright side I've found that not playing has cured me of some of my bad habits) I asked my horn teacher what to work on, he said scales would be good to start out on, but not to go too high. I'm wondering if anyone has any additions to make to that. I'm looking for something that isn't too easy to slip back into those habits. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks William Foss The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that one encounters otherwise in religous controversies. -Gunther Schuller _ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Desert Island Discs
I heard from my horn instructor that there was an audio publication called Desert Island Discs and they would do interviews with famous people and the main point was to ask them what they would take with them on a desert island, he said there was one in particular with Dennis Brain, that he told me a little bit about it. I was wondering where I could find a copy of it. Thanks, William Foss _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Range
About a month of two ago I posted a message about buying a new Holton 281. This is something of a follow-up to that message. Last Wednesday, I was doing a normal practice routine and was working on scales which have been a problem for me. My instructor has told me that I should have learned them before, and then I wouldn't have to learn them now, and I wish I had learned them before. Anyway, I was amazed when I was able to play a four octave C scale. I was amazed and figured that it was just a freak occurrence and played it over and over feeling great playing two C's below middle C all the way up to two C's above it. Then I went on a marching band trip. I had signed up for the trip thinking that it was not a marching trip. So, I had to play mellophone for about a week (ugh). I got home friday and played on Saturday and It just about came out. Sunday it was cleaner, and today it sounded pretty good. I'm wondering is this related to the newness of the horn, or to playing scales over and over, or the alignment of planets, or something stranger? I have not changed mouthpieces or anything in my playing other than adjusting to a Holton 281 from a Conn 6D. Will this range go away, I would appreciate any responses at all. Thank you, William Foss _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Holton 281
On May 31, as the result of my performance at state solo and ensemble contest, my family went to Wichita to look at horns. I tried several great horns, and finally i had settled on two: a Paxman model 23 and a Holton 180. They played similarly, but the prices were like night and day. The Paxman was a titanium valve, screw bell, with lacquer, in short it had everything but diamond studded valve caps. So, my parents chose the 180 because it was considerably cheaper. this last week I attended band camp at Central Missouri State University and had the horn checked out by Dr. Gary Moege. He said I played well on it, and it wa a good horn. The next saturday, I convinced my dad to drive me to Wichita Band Instrument Company and look at the 281, because I found in trying out horns that a rose brass bell was easier to play and got a better, darker sound. While I was there Richard Benson, the resident horn player at Wichita band and also a great person, told me that he had gone to Bloomington and heard the performances on Friday said that two people there had used this, and handed me an Alexander 103 to try out. I liked it a lot, but I went on to try two Holton 281s, one of which was of okay quality and the other, which we bought, was a great horn. I was wondering what everyone knows about Holton 281s or just the characteristics of Holtons in general. We have a 10 day trial period after which we cannot return the horn. any comments would be appreciated William Foss _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
