Re: [HOT] Need reviewers for HOT Summit 2019 Talk Proposals!

[Dale Kunce]

Rachel, I'd like to help out if you still need help.

Dale

On Fri, May 10, 2019, 12:01 PM Rachel VanNice 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> The Summit Working Group is busy preparing a stellar Summit for September,
> in collaboration with the global State of the Map conference. We're at the
> exciting stage of choosing our speakers for the Summit and we need your
> help!
>
> We've got  the review form ready but I need a few more volunteers to
> review Summit talk proposals.  Each reviewer only needs to evaluate 17
> proposals based on short abstracts and you'll have 2 weeks in which to
> review.
>
> Please let me know ASAP if you can review so I can send the form out to
> all. I recognize I'm sending this on Friday afternoon, so if you could let
> me know by *Tuesday, May 14th*, that'd be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Rachel
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Re: [HOT] Learning to Use Machine Learning - A learn along for folks who want to be using ML in their work.

[Dale Kunce]

@Blake Girardot  Fantastic Job pulling together
all these resources for folks.

I'm really am excited for all the possibilities and time savings and better
data the machines will give us. However, with emphasis, I'm also excited by
the work that HOT is doing and has been doing to prepare for the machines.
To answer a lot of the questions will inevitably come up. For instance: How
will humans verify the results? What will a mapathon look like in 2 years?
Do we still need to trace X features? How do machines fit in with OSM
culture?

I believe firmly that OSM is best when a human is the one that makes the
final edit. I do see many workflows happening that will allow us to take
advantage of the great work that our corporate partners and community are
coming up with.

Looking forward to learning and working on these issues together.



On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:02 AM john whelan  wrote:

> One does hope that a manual check will be part of the process?
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 9 August 2018 at 08:10, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> In case you missed it, Dale Kunce tweeted this out yesterday:
>>
>> The day of Machine Learning and OSM/Humanitarian mapping reckoning is
>> getting closer. Very excited for the possibilities these new methods
>> have for @hotosm @RedCross. Next frontier is making HOT and
>> @TheMissingMaps more valuable than just a training dataset for the
>> machines.
>>
>> https://twitter.com/calimapnerd/status/1027275305440829440
>>
>> Toward that end, I have been watching and in some cases working with
>> various ML tool chains over the past 2 years and really, not having a
>> lot of luck with my level of skill and knowledge. I am a pretty
>> advanced sysadmin, comfortable on the command line, but understanding
>> the terminology and installations has been a bit beyond me.
>>
>> So if anyone is like me and sees all of these great tool chains and
>> would like to learn how to use them with your peers learning along
>> with you and hopefully some experts as well, I created a dedicated
>> #mlearning-basic channel on the OSM-US slack (
>> https://osmus-slack.herokuapp.com/ )
>>
>> OSM-US runs a lovely, informative, lively, international slack with
>> many channels and everyone is welcome!
>>
>> The #mlearning-basic channel is for the absolute beginner basics, how
>> to install and use the existing and emerging tools chains and OSM/OAM
>> data to generate usable vector data from Machine Learning quickly.
>>
>> You are all invited to join, but it is very basic. Hopefully some of
>> the ML experts from the projects below will be in there to hand hold
>> us newbies through actually making use of what we are seeing more and
>> more everyday. Excellent tool chains exist, world changing tool
>> chains, now we just need to get them into the hands of the people who
>> need and want to use them everyday :)
>>
>> Everyone is welcome and encouraged to join, it is intended to be kind
>> of a "learn-a-long". Our first project, my first project, is building
>> on the Anthropocene Labs work and doing the same area using MapBoxes
>> RobotSat tool chain using Danial's and Maning's posts as a guide.
>>
>> For reference please see this incredible work the community has shared
>> in the past months, much like humanitarian mapping in general, the
>> projects you see below will start changing the world over the next 12
>> months. Apologies if I missed any other OSM ML public projects, please
>> reply and let us all know!
>>
>> =
>>
>> Anthropocene Labs @anthropoco
>>
>> #Humanitarian #drone imgs of #Rohingya refugee camps + pretrained
>> model finetuned w @hotosm data. Not perfect maps but fast, small data
>> need, works w diff imgs. Thx @UNmigration @OpenAerialMap @geonanayi
>> @WeRobotics 4 #opendata & ideas! #cloudnative #geospatial
>> #deeplearning
>> https://twitter.com/anthropoco/status/1027268421442883584
>>
>> =
>>
>> This post follows Daniel’s guide for detecting buildings in drone
>> imagery in the Philippines. The goal of this exercise is for me to
>> understand the basics of the pipeline and find ways to use the tool in
>> identifying remote settlements from high resolution imagery (i.e
>> drones). I’m not aiming for pixel-perfect detection (i.e precise
>> geometry of the building). My main question is whether it can help
>> direct a human mapper focus on specific areas in the imagery to map in
>> OpenStreetMap.
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/diary/44462
>>
>

Re: [HOT] [Osmf-talk] [hotosm-membership] Re: Code of Conduct Reminder

[Dale Kunce]

Rafael,
Saying things like "x is childish" is not in keeping with good manners.

I think the larger point is that this space is not "gentle." We clearly
need a CoC or at the very least to enforce the rules we (OSM) already have
in place. OSM is not so special from every other internet community. Most
software projects, data projects, and even media companies have open CoC
and expectations for how you behave in there space. OSM is not unique, we
need to set clear expectations about how to act in this space.

Is it so hard for people to be nice to one another? I think it behoves
everyone in this community to make the affirmation of being nice to one
another the same way we all made the commitment to the ODBL. I think it
behoves us all to call out bad behavior when we see it. Keep others honest
and on topic not through enforcing a CoC but through the accepting the
rules outlined in the CoC or etiquette guidelines.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, Pete:
>
> Yes, I forgot to say my opinion about the user who said he was
> unsubscribing.
>
> In my opinion, it's childish to quit an open forum, where anyone can
> subscribe, just because somebody says something you don't like. Specially
> when you see already some people telling you that no one can control what
> others have to say.
>
> If it was me, I would say it politely, like "I think not having a tool to
> create squared buildings in iD is a pity, because if we had, more squared
> buildings would be mapped". But what I, you or Dale think about politeness
> is something that depend on many factors, the most important of them
> cultural. Believe me when I tell you that I didn't find it unpolite, and it
> passed unadverted to me.
>
> We, the overall OSM community, are very gentle and pacific in general, so
> we can govern ourselves without the need of any CoC. All this thread tells
> me very clear how negative a CoC in OSM lists would be.
>
> Are we confortable with that? We can tell him things similar to those that
> others said already to him, in the way "what one person says, whether you
> don't like it, is what one person says, but not what the rest thinks. And
> maybe he wasn't meaning that he hates you, but he hates that you iD devs
> don't have a building tool like JOSM". There are ways to say the same
> better and more clear. But what I am clearly against is to put him under
> the foot of a CoC. Only the name, CoC, scares me a lot.
>
> I hope I make me more clear now.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rafael.
>
> On 15/12/17 19:39, Pete Masters wrote:
>
>> Hi Rafael, I see your point about the CoC and ownership of the list. But
>> that was only the third paragraph of Dale's email.
>>
>> The fact remains that a person was told they are one of a hated group of
>> people and left the list. It's a loss. Are we comfortable with that? Is it
>> just the way it is and everyone has to live with it?
>>
>> Personally, I am not comfortable with it and welcome further discussion.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 Dec 2017 18:24, "Rafael Avila Coya" <ravilac...@gmail.com > ravilac...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Dan:
>>
>> The thing here is that hot@openstreetmap.org
>> <mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org> is, as far as I know, an OSM mailing
>> list, not HOT US inc.'s. I would find it weard that another OSM
>> mailing list was governed by the Red Cross, and that talk-es was
>> governed by the Spanish Government, for example.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rafael.
>>
>> On 15/12/17 19:11, Dan S wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> It does seem to me that more clarity would be good here, i.e.
>> slightly
>> disentangling the lines of accountability regarding the hot@
>> mailing
>> list.
>>
>> Mikel's response has logical sense, but it's probably not clear
>> to the
>> average participant in the hot@ mailing list whether they are
>> automatically made a part of the HOT community. Whether the best
>> clarification is to have two mailing lists, or for the info page
>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot>> to make clear
>> whether
>> it is in general governed by HOT's rules, I don't know.
>>
>> Best
>> Dan
>>
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Re: [HOT] [Osmf-talk] [hotosm-membership] Re: Code of Conduct Reminder

[Dale Kunce]

Just to clear the air. I misspoke in my initial post when I said the HOT
CoC would be enforced on this list. I've since learned that the HOT list is
not administered by HOT and thus our community crafted CoC does not apply
here. Note: it does apply to all other HOT communication channels,
including Tasking Manager, GitHub, slack, etc.

As Mikel said the existing OSM Etiquette rules, however, do apply in this
space.

My earlier statement of asking all community members of this list to think
twice about what you say on this list. This is not an effort to curb free
speech but instead to build a positive collaborative space to discuss.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Russell Deffner <
russell.deff...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I would prefer to participate in mailing lists that are governed by CoC
> and enforced by an organized group rather than individuals.
>
> =Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan S [mailto:danstowell+...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:11 AM
> To: Rafael Avila Coya
> Cc: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org; Mapa Nauta; hot@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [HOT] [Osmf-talk] [hotosm-membership] Re: Code of Conduct
> Reminder
>
> Hi
>
> It does seem to me that more clarity would be good here, i.e. slightly
> disentangling the lines of accountability regarding the hot@ mailing
> list.
>
> Mikel's response has logical sense, but it's probably not clear to the
> average participant in the hot@ mailing list whether they are
> automatically made a part of the HOT community. Whether the best
> clarification is to have two mailing lists, or for the info page
> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot> to make clear whether
> it is in general governed by HOT's rules, I don't know.
>
> Best
> Dan
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[HOT] Code of Conduct Reminder

[Dale Kunce]

Earlier today someone on this list made some rude and disparaging remarks
about the iD developers. This is not the first time an outside supporting
group has been attacked by members of this list. Your words have meaning.
Your words can have far greater impact than you believe. One individual,
not elected, can have a huge negative impact that directly affects HOT's
mission.

One of HOT's biggest fans and supporters has unsubscribed from this list,
rightly so, because of these attacks. The individual was and is key to
helping the OSM community with important technology tools that we need to
map better.

I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of the Code of
Conduct https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct. It will be enforced and
offenders will be asked to leave our community if you cannot help us form a
positive welcoming community. The Code of Conduct is not for some special
group to enforce the power of a strong CoC lies with the community to
enforce good positive communication norms.

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Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

[Dale Kunce]

tor so that we can get them mapping as quickly as we can and then
> deal
> >> with any questions they have during the session.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I do not count any success on how many squares have been completed
> >> although it is encouraging to the group to be shown at the end how much
> >> their contribution has advanced the project they are working on. I
> prefer to
> >> concentrate on getting the mappers to a stage where they are comfortable
> >> with their mapping and confident enough to try mapping further on their
> own
> >> at home and hopefully interested enough to return for further guidance.
> >> Going around the room and looking at what they are doing is paramount to
> >> this success. Telling them that they have got it and their work is good
> >> gives them the assurance they need to continue and even become more
> >> adventurous, so John is correct in saying that the one-to-one does show
> more
> >> promise and achieve better mapping. Even stopping to show a new mapper
> how
> >> to improve and correct their work has a very positive effect on their
> >> confidence.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Working with small groups definitely is an advantage because of the
> >> personal attention they can get, but will be more effective it you can
> get
> >> them meeting on a regular basis to build on their experience and skill
> with
> >> the various tools on JOSM.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At the London monthly Mapathon we have three training sections running
> at
> >> the same time … iD , JOSM and Validating. And it is up to the
> individual as
> >> to which session they sign up to. If they want to start straight away
> with
> >> JOSM they are welcome to do so. The mappers know that there is going to
> be a
> >> Mapathon on the first Tuesday of every month so it becomes a fixed date
> on
> >> their calendar which does help with returning mappers. We also keep the
> >> email addresses of attendees and they will get invited back to future
> >> Mapathons with an Eventbrite invitation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As a guide to success I would point you to the fact that most of the
> >> trainers at the London Mapathons started off as newcomers and have
> stayed
> >> and progressed, a number of attendees have gone on to start up mapping
> >> groups at their universities. Also at universities and corporate offices
> >> where we have run Mapathons they have started up inhouse Mapping
> Parties and
> >> Mapathons of their own.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Martin Dittus gave us some statistics early on in the process of
> evolving
> >> the London Mapathons which showed approximately 30% return rate but it
> >> tailed of quickly, which is why we decided to offer the returning
> mappers
> >> the option of going onto JOSM, this helped the retention of mappers and
> now
> >> we also have a MidMonth Mapathon for experienced JOSM mappers to get
> >> involved in more advanced work.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To sum up, yes JOSM is desirable in getting good building mapping and
> very
> >> definitely when the mapping moves into dense city centres or slums where
> >> they are built butting up against each other. But then for people with
> no
> >> previous map experience the learning curve is very steep, having to
> learn
> >> about OSM, the Tasking Manager, the Editor, read Satellite Imagery,
> drawing
> >> the features and also tagging correctly so reducing this slightly by
> using
> >> the iD Editor to start with does make sense when you have a limited
> time to
> >> get them started.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If you have any questions regarding getting started or running your
> >> Mapathon feel free to email me and I will try to help where I can.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope some of this might be useful.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ralph
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>
> >>
> >>
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[HOT] New Code of Conduct

[Dale Kunce]

HOT is a growing community and a growing NGO. As we’ve grown we no longer
know everyone else that is a contributor by first name. We increasingly
haven’t ever seen each other in real life, haven’t been to a mapathon
together, and work on disparate projects. As we’ve grown we’ve also had our
growing pains with disagreements, hurt feelings, and sometimes worse. Last
year, at the direction of the board, the Governance Working Group (GWG)
starting working together on a number of issues to provide structure and
guidance to the HOT community. The GWG worked diligently on the Code of
Conduct <https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct> now being announced.

The CoC reflects the needs of the community to enable HOT to continue to
grow and thrive the way it has over the past few years. The Board recently
approved the CoC submitted to it by the GWG. Going forward all HOT board
members, members, and anyone using HOT’s resources will be subject to the
guidance and rules of the CoC. The CoC will eventually be embeded into all
of HOT’s online platforms and new users will be required to agree before
using HOT resources.

Ultimately we broke down the CoC into two parts. A shorter version and a
longer version with more guidance and explanation. Below is the short
version, the version we want everyone to follow and be mindful of day to
day. I also encourage everyone to read the longer version as its got some
really great stuff.

*Short Version*

HOT is committed to providing an inclusive, welcoming, and safe environment
for people of of any race, ethnicity, culture, national origin, colour,
immigration status, social and economic class, educational level, sex,
sexual orientation, gender identity and expression, age, size, family
status, political belief, religion, and mental and physical ability.

Encouraged Behaviors:

   - Be friendly and patient.
   - Be welcoming.
   - Be considerate.
   - Be respectful.
   - Be careful in your word phrasing and tone.
   - Assume all communications are positive.
   - When we disagree, try to understand why.

Behaviors that Won’t be Tolerated:

   - Verbal, written, or physical abuse.
   - Discrimination of any person.

The HOT Membership has a formal Complaint Handling Process
<https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct#complainthandling> to assist
with serious issues.

Please read the Full Version
<https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct#fullversion> when you get a
chance.

A huge high five and appreciation goes out to the Governance Working Group
members who worked so hard to discuss, draft, and finalize our new Code of
Conduct.

   - Heather Leson
   - Martin Dittus
   - Blake Girardot
   - Joseph Reeves
   - Melanie Eckle
   - Mikel Maron
   - John Crowley


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Re: [HOT] iD news: v2.4.0 released

[Dale Kunce]

@Brian is it possible to have have 'review_requested=yes' auto filled if a
user has less than some number of edits or would changes_count be a better
way to get the same data.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm huge fan of this feature. Getting changes reviewed is a great way for
> educating and training people. Maybe someday we'll have readability for
> different countries / regions and/or categories of edits.
>
> Can't wait to start using it.
>
> Donal
>
> On 26 Aug 2017 14:15, "Bryan Housel" <br...@7thposition.com> wrote:
>
>> OSMCha will show if a user has requested a review (though I’m not sure if
>> they have pushed the new version yet that does this).
>>
>> We’re also planning to add it to our bots in slack and IRC that monitor
>> edits in the US.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 8:44 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >`review_requested=yes`
>>
>> So how would this be picked up?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On 26 August 2017 at 01:46, Bryan Housel <br...@7thposition.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *iD v2.4.0* was released August 25, 2017 and is now available for
>>> editing on openstreetmap.org
>>>
>>>   *A few highlights from the release:*
>>>
>>> *NEW Esri World Imagery layer:*
>>> Esri has made their World Imagery Service available for OSM use!
>>> Read more here:  https://blogs.esri.com/esri/a
>>> rcgis/2017/08/24/world-imagery-in-osm/
>>>
>>> *NEW fields on the save screen:*
>>>• Added a checkbox for mappers to request for someone to review their
>>> edits.
>>>• Added a Source field to allow users to add multiple sources.
>>>• Added a Hashtags field to allow users to add multiple event
>>> hashtags.
>>> - Hashtags can also be set via the API from a Task Manager or Q/A app.
>>> - Hashtags are automatically extracted from the `comment` field.
>>>
>>> *NEW changeset tags for improved changeset analysis*
>>>• `review_requested=yes`  (“yes” if the user has checked the box)
>>>• `source=*`  (semicolon delimited, e.g. “survey;gps")
>>>• `hashtags=*`  (semicolon delimited, e.g. “#MissingMaps;#Tanzania”)
>>>• `changesets_count=*`  (number of edits the user has made, will be “
>>> 0” for someone making their first edit)
>>>
>>>   Walkthrough tags, will be set only if a user has made <100 edits:
>>>• `ideditor:walkthrough_started=yes`  (“yes” if the user started the
>>> walkthrough)
>>>• `ideditor:walkthrough_progress=*`  (semicolon delimited, e.g. "
>>> welcome;navigation;point;area”)
>>>• `ideditor:walkthrough_started=yes`  (“yes” if the user completed
>>> all walkthrough sections)
>>>
>>> *Performance:*
>>>• iD can now schedule deferred work in modern browsers with
>>> requestIdleCallback, (contributed by Kushan Joshi).
>>> This means big speedups in parsing, loading data from OSM, and rendering.
>>>
>>> *Presets:*
>>>• Added presets for many theme park attractions (contributed by
>>> Willie Marcel)
>>>• Added preset for `amenity=shower` (contributed by JamesKingdom)
>>>• Added preset `emergency=life_ring` (contributed by JamesKingdom)
>>>• Added presets and icons for railway mapping Buffer Stop, Derailer,
>>> Milestone, Signal, Switch, Train Wash (contributed by JamesKingdom)
>>>
>>> ...and more!
>>>
>>>
>>> *Changelog:*
>>>https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#240
>>>
>>> *Twitter:*
>>>v2.4.0 + new save screen:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/s
>>> tatus/901280750540132352
>>>Esri World Imagery announcement: https://twitter.
>>> com/geogangster/status/901194478622433280
>>>
>>> Follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/bhousel for more iD news and
>>> sneak peaks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>> Bryan
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Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings something to think about

[Dale Kunce]

All this is a reminder to everyone to keep the language and intent of
statements in a respectful manner. The iD developers and mainteners work
very hard to manage the project and do a very good job. I know some of you
have frustrations but please be respectful of others time and efforts as
well.

Dale

On Apr 11, 2017 11:43 AM, "Jo"  wrote:

> I'm sorry for having used a four letter word to express how deeply I'm
> disappointed that developing a tool to create a rectangle and marking it
> building=yes in one go with just 3 mouse clicks takes this long.
>
> This is causing other people to lose countless hours of their precious
> time on validating tasks and burning out, like I did.
>
> All the more power to you John for still hanging in there!
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2017-04-11 0:31 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I feel your pain. While demoing JOSM to a potential GSoC candidate I
>> downloaded a building block in Mozambique. Almost all the buildings were
>> tagged area=yes! This is a problem with the iD editor that we reported 18
>> months ago and it's up to JOSM validators to resolve them. Life is just too
>> short. It's beyond belief that the iD developers cannot get their shit
>> straight, even afer all this time.
>>
>> Anyway, for our National Mapathon I had created the following (since we
>> had Windows computers with Java installed available):
>>
>> https://github.com/osmbe/JOSMforMapathons
>>
>> You can download it as a zip from github.
>>
>> Then run the josm_tested.cmd
>> .
>> This will call the powershell script, which downloads JOSM and starts it
>> with settings for remote control enabled. Somehow it's still necessary to
>> download the plugins, but the useful ones are already selected.
>>
>> I hope this helps to organise more mapathons were users are taught to map
>> with JOSM right from the start. It takes a bit longer to get them going,
>> but the users are so much more productive and validators will come in
>> hordes to thank you :-)
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>>
>> 2017-04-10 23:50 GMT+02:00 john whelan :
>>
>>> I've been looking at one section of Africa and tagging untagged ways and
>>> area=yes ways.  It's a very small % of the entire continent.
>>>
>>> So far in the last couple of days I've tagged nearly 800 buildings and I
>>> have another 350 untagged ways to go through.
>>>
>>> Looking at the mappers and the profiles many of these seem to be from a
>>> number of recent building only projects.  Now these should be some of the
>>> simplest things to map.
>>>
>>> Missing 1,000 buildings in this area alone by not tagging them to me is
>>> significant.  It might not be to others.
>>>
>>> My estimate is of the buildings that are mapped 30% are not square or
>>> the building image and the mapping are different in size.  This is a
>>> conservative estimate.
>>>
>>> To save my fingers and wading through the to_do list could a bit more
>>> effort be made on the JOSM building_tool plugin front.  Jo / Polygot has a
>>> recipe for running it from a USB stick.  It is simple to use and very
>>> difficult to misstag.
>>>
>>> You get more buildings out of the mappers and best of all you don't get
>>> 45 tiles on one project marked done as I've seen by a mapper who had mapped
>>> 186 buildings but managed not to tag them.
>>>
>>> This means the project data isn't reliable and in my experience end
>>> users like reliability. I'm not sure why, my programmers always thought
>>> that the speed the programs ran at was more important.
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?

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;>>> of course there is no data transmitted to OSM, but how is the data (I
>>>>>> mean, marked tiles) used after I transmitted it? How much is it worth
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do that mapswiping?
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Re: [HOT] POSM

[Dale Kunce]

John,
We've run parts of the POSM stack on very small performant machines
including machines such as intel edisons and raspberry pis. You won't be
able to run stuff like OpenDroneMap or rendering osm tiles with these low
performance machines but you will be able to use OpenMapKit and Field
Papers.

For future questions on POSM the best place to ask questions is on github.
http://github.com/posm

Dale

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> I'm not sure where to post this but although it was created for intel NUCs
> with 8 gigs of memory can it be run on other boxes such as an i7 Laptop
> with 4 gigs of memory or isn't it stable enough yet?
>
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Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

[Dale Kunce]

Performance for imagery on either POSM or NAS would both be about the same
I think. POSM can do both dynamic tile generation and static tile caches.

POSM edits are still aggregated by a central import account when pushed to
osm.org. The individual editor is kept in the changeset but they don't
credit for the edit. We have been having conversations about ways to allow
contributors edits to stay with them throughout the process and getting rid
of the import account but this requires some changes/trusts with osm.org
that are not currently available. The ultimate solution is that POSM is a
trusted osm account generator, this involves many technical and political
hurdles.

Dale

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Claire Halleux <claire.hall...@hotosm.org>
wrote:

> Thank you Dale for your useful updates, hadn't heard about OpenDroneMap
> module yet.
>
> Our current need is strictly focused on serving imagery tiles, so we are
> not considering the other POSM functionalities in this case.
> In that context, we are looking for the most performant solution, knowing
> that we can use static tile caches (on the NAS), instead of generating
> images dynamically (on the NUC). I'm guessing that a NAS would perform
> better but haven't been able to compare them practically yet.
>
> Regarding POSM, is it now possible to attribute changesets to the
> contributors who initiated them, or are they still all uploaded under a
> single username?
>
> Best,
>
> Claire
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I forgot to mention that we are spending a lot of time to update and get
>> better documentation on POSM out there. Just this week we started to work
>> on the content for a better website. The site is not complete and many
>> things will be changing but it will give you a good idea of the content we
>> are creating. If you have any suggestions please file the issues here
>> https://github.com/posm/posm.io/issues
>>
>> https://posm.github.io/posm.io/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> POSM was developed exactly for this type of use case. The status.md
>>> isn't up to date and should be ignored.
>>>
>>> POSM does host imagery with the new OpenDroneMap module. You can add a
>>> tiff and it will be served as a TMS. You an also add any MBTile archive
>>> (bing) and have that served as well. POSM is designed to take an AOI, use
>>> collected imagery, host field papers, and have support for mobile data
>>> surveys all offline.
>>>
>>> Happy to answer any questions that anyone might have.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks John, but I'm mostly certain POSM doesn't host imagery:
>>>> https://github.com/posm/posm/blob/master/STATUS.md
>>>>
>>>> Looks like it could be a good feature to add though! Looks like Dale
>>>> has opened an issue on it already: https://github.com/po
>>>> sm/posm/issues/277
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Joseph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 March 2017 at 15:58, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ​an old post giving details.
>>>>>
>>>>> John​
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Sayler <matt.say...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 15/08/2016
>>>>> to me, Laura, hot
>>>>> POSM & Red Cross had an excellent presentation at SOTMUS, and Seth
>>>>> mentioned he'd be willing to set some up for the cost of hardware and
>>>>> brownies (I assume that will become dependent on demand/appetite):
>>>>> http://stateofthemap.us/2016/field-mapping-at-scale/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nutshell: POSM is for mapping in low/no service areas. It can serve
>>>>> as a local, disconnected OSM server, which can later push changes up to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> main OSM when in an area with service. They primarily use Intel NUC's
>>>>> (~$350 for all hardware, runs off ~6w), but have installed it on Rasberry
>>>>> Pi, Intel Edison, Beagle Bone, etc. I'm not aware of them doing a usb
>>>>> bootable install, but might be possible? Red Cross uses $50 Android phones
>>>>> & Field Papers for doing the mapping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty freaking cool project!
>>>>>
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Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

[Dale Kunce]

I forgot to mention that we are spending a lot of time to update and get
better documentation on POSM out there. Just this week we started to work
on the content for a better website. The site is not complete and many
things will be changing but it will give you a good idea of the content we
are creating. If you have any suggestions please file the issues here
https://github.com/posm/posm.io/issues

https://posm.github.io/posm.io/



On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:

> POSM was developed exactly for this type of use case. The status.md isn't
> up to date and should be ignored.
>
> POSM does host imagery with the new OpenDroneMap module. You can add a
> tiff and it will be served as a TMS. You an also add any MBTile archive
> (bing) and have that served as well. POSM is designed to take an AOI, use
> collected imagery, host field papers, and have support for mobile data
> surveys all offline.
>
> Happy to answer any questions that anyone might have.
>
> Dale
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks John, but I'm mostly certain POSM doesn't host imagery:
>> https://github.com/posm/posm/blob/master/STATUS.md
>>
>> Looks like it could be a good feature to add though! Looks like Dale has
>> opened an issue on it already: https://github.com/posm/posm/issues/277
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 March 2017 at 15:58, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ​an old post giving details.
>>>
>>> John​
>>>
>>> Matt Sayler <matt.say...@gmail.com>
>>> 15/08/2016
>>> to me, Laura, hot
>>> POSM & Red Cross had an excellent presentation at SOTMUS, and Seth
>>> mentioned he'd be willing to set some up for the cost of hardware and
>>> brownies (I assume that will become dependent on demand/appetite):
>>> http://stateofthemap.us/2016/field-mapping-at-scale/
>>>
>>>
>>> Nutshell: POSM is for mapping in low/no service areas. It can serve as
>>> a local, disconnected OSM server, which can later push changes up to the
>>> main OSM when in an area with service. They primarily use Intel NUC's
>>> (~$350 for all hardware, runs off ~6w), but have installed it on Rasberry
>>> Pi, Intel Edison, Beagle Bone, etc. I'm not aware of them doing a usb
>>> bootable install, but might be possible? Red Cross uses $50 Android phones
>>> & Field Papers for doing the mapping.
>>>
>>> Pretty freaking cool project!
>>>
>>> https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/posm
>>>
>>> On 22 March 2017 at 11:53, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > In a windows environment its fairly easy to configure.  In the
>>>> security tabs for the folder you just make the folder shareable but read
>>>> only.
>>>>
>>>> There's OSM editors that will source imagery over SMB? I've never
>>>> looked into it, but I'd be surprised.
>>>>
>>>> Thinking about this very quickly, my points would be:
>>>>
>>>> 1: RAID: I'd want some disk redundancy as the device is likely to be
>>>> used in tough environments that are far from good sources of replacement
>>>> disks, or replacement imagery.
>>>> 2: Software: As already mentioned, you're going to need some software
>>>> to serve the tiles. WMS? You'd want a device that was easy to get running
>>>> with third party software. Performance may also be an issue, depending on
>>>> how many people you were catering for.
>>>>
>>>> I hope someone will come along with an example of what they've managed
>>>> to do before. If not it should be a fun exercise :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Joseph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 March 2017 at 15:42, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you looking for information on how to do it?  On suggested
>>>>> hardware?
>>>>>
>>>>> Essentially for this purpose I see no reason why one local machine
>>>>> such as a lap top couldn't feed the others.  In a windows environment its
>>>>> fairly easy to configure.  In the security tabs for the folder you just
>>>>> make the folder shareable but read only.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you  looked at POSM?  (Portable OSM) they may have this already
>>>>> worked out and documented for the fi

Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

[Dale Kunce]

POSM was developed exactly for this type of use case. The status.md isn't
up to date and should be ignored.

POSM does host imagery with the new OpenDroneMap module. You can add a tiff
and it will be served as a TMS. You an also add any MBTile archive (bing)
and have that served as well. POSM is designed to take an AOI, use
collected imagery, host field papers, and have support for mobile data
surveys all offline.

Happy to answer any questions that anyone might have.

Dale


On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks John, but I'm mostly certain POSM doesn't host imagery:
> https://github.com/posm/posm/blob/master/STATUS.md
>
> Looks like it could be a good feature to add though! Looks like Dale has
> opened an issue on it already: https://github.com/posm/posm/issues/277
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
> On 22 March 2017 at 15:58, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ​an old post giving details.
>>
>> John​
>>
>> Matt Sayler <matt.say...@gmail.com>
>> 15/08/2016
>> to me, Laura, hot
>> POSM & Red Cross had an excellent presentation at SOTMUS, and Seth
>> mentioned he'd be willing to set some up for the cost of hardware and
>> brownies (I assume that will become dependent on demand/appetite):
>> http://stateofthemap.us/2016/field-mapping-at-scale/
>>
>>
>> Nutshell: POSM is for mapping in low/no service areas. It can serve as a
>> local, disconnected OSM server, which can later push changes up to the main
>> OSM when in an area with service. They primarily use Intel NUC's (~$350 for
>> all hardware, runs off ~6w), but have installed it on Rasberry Pi, Intel
>> Edison, Beagle Bone, etc. I'm not aware of them doing a usb bootable
>> install, but might be possible? Red Cross uses $50 Android phones & Field
>> Papers for doing the mapping.
>>
>> Pretty freaking cool project!
>>
>> https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/posm
>>
>> On 22 March 2017 at 11:53, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > In a windows environment its fairly easy to configure.  In the
>>> security tabs for the folder you just make the folder shareable but read
>>> only.
>>>
>>> There's OSM editors that will source imagery over SMB? I've never looked
>>> into it, but I'd be surprised.
>>>
>>> Thinking about this very quickly, my points would be:
>>>
>>> 1: RAID: I'd want some disk redundancy as the device is likely to be
>>> used in tough environments that are far from good sources of replacement
>>> disks, or replacement imagery.
>>> 2: Software: As already mentioned, you're going to need some software to
>>> serve the tiles. WMS? You'd want a device that was easy to get running with
>>> third party software. Performance may also be an issue, depending on how
>>> many people you were catering for.
>>>
>>> I hope someone will come along with an example of what they've managed
>>> to do before. If not it should be a fun exercise :)
>>>
>>> Cheers, Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 March 2017 at 15:42, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you looking for information on how to do it?  On suggested hardware?
>>>>
>>>> Essentially for this purpose I see no reason why one local machine such
>>>> as a lap top couldn't feed the others.  In a windows environment its fairly
>>>> easy to configure.  In the security tabs for the folder you just make the
>>>> folder shareable but read only.
>>>>
>>>> Have you  looked at POSM?  (Portable OSM) they may have this already
>>>> worked out and documented for the field.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks John
>>>>
>>>> On 22 March 2017 at 11:22, Claire Halleux <claire.hall...@hotosm.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello HOT Community,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm currently looking into NAS specifications for serving imagery
>>>>> tiles locally for OSMapping purposes. The NAS would be coupled to a router
>>>>> accessible to the mappers. Contributors would still be connected to the
>>>>> relatively slow Internet for downloading/uploading their data but the idea
>>>>> is to get the ability to load imagery tiles much faster and access
>>>>> additional images, in particular during mapathons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore I would welcome any feedback from people, organisations or
>&

Re: [HOT] Mapping request for Harper and Pleebo, Liberia

[Dale Kunce]

Jeff,
The Red Cross did a lot of mapping in Liberia (
http://www.missingmaps.org/blog/2017/01/24/west-africa-mapping-hub-end/)
and I think HOT has an upcoming project as well. As Andrew pointed out the
needed thing to map the area remotely would be better satellite imagery.
Once that is obtained the areas could be mapped in detail in just a couple
of days.

Dale

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Andrew Buck <andrew.r.b...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The towns don't look that big so mapping them would be quite easy to do,
> however nether Bing nor MapBox has imagery of imagery of the area that
> is high enough resolution to map them.  If you can find a source of
> imagery where the license allows us to use it for tracing then it
> shouldn't be difficult but otherwise there may not be much we can do.
>
> -AndrewBuck
>
> On 02/15/2017 01:19 PM, Blossom, Jeffrey C. wrote:
> > Hello HOTOSM team,
> >
> >
> > I'm Jeff Blossom, a GIS Manager with the Center for Geographic Analysis
> at Harvard University.
> >
> >
> > I'm working with a Dr. Daniel Palazuelos, who is doing a long term
> health surveillance in West Africa, and has expressed the mapping need
> below:
> >
> >
> > "The recent Ebola epidemic in west Africa  was unprecedented. Critical
> to the response at that time was accurate mapping of the most affected
> households in the most affected areas. Partners In Health is a Boston-based
> nongovernmental organization that began working in Liberia and Sierra Leone
> to assist in the disaster response at the time, but has now made a
> long-term commitment to building functioning health systems in these
> countries so that the next Ebola epidemic does not occur.
> >
> >
> >
> > We are looking for volunteers who can help map beneficiary communities
> in our catchment area, starting with Harper and Pleebo, Liberia.   The goal
> would then be to use these detailed community maps to create public health
> strategies where local community health workers  can perform regular
> outreach campaign to households to be sure that people are healthy, and
> connected to growing clinical services."
> >
> >
> > What is the process to get this mapping request considered?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeff Blossom
> >
> >
> > GIS Service Manager
> >
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> >
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Re: [HOT] What I'd like for next Christmas is...

[Dale Kunce]

John,
Feel free to file this as an issue on the TM repo.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2

Dale

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 5:51 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some sort of notification of when a tile is completed on a selected
> project.
>
> Currently I open up four projects each day and check for completed tiles
> so I can validate them.  Three are moving very slowly currently, it can be
> a couple of weeks before another batch of tiles gets done.
>
> Problem is at the moment the HOT tile server is overloaded and checking
> for done tiles is a load that really shouldn't be placed on the server
> unless a tile has been completed.
>
> So please Santa sort it out for me.
>
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Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve

[Dale Kunce]

Thanks everyone. I agree that the task should be marked as appropriate for
intermediate or advanced mappers.

I also wanted to reiterate a point that Mikel made. Having two tasking
managers, is not the greatest for more coordination. HOT's official tasking
manager should be the only tasking manager used. Having conflicting tasks
introduces errors and makes coordination for actual data use difficult.

Romain,
Thanks for your suggestions. My apologies on not getting back to you I've
been very busy and traveling the last couple of days.
You are correct that we changed the way that created tasks. There was some
debate within the activation team as to which way to do the work. All of
your comments will be captured in the after action for some lesson's
learned.

Thanks again for everyone that is contributing to the mapping.

Dale



On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Romain Bousson <romainbous...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
> I noticed the same issues recently. All along the week, as the media
> coverage increased, the way that the projects and tasks were completing
> themselves changed. From large tiles completed by several users turn by
> turn, we came to big tiles directly divided into tiny tasks, being
> completed by only one user in a few minutes. The peer review process,
> making the quality of the work, was botched.
> I personnaly found many tasks checked green as "validated" by newcomers,
> and "completed" by newcomers.
>
> For example, here is an extract from a message I sent to Dale Kunce (admin
> of many Haïti projects), where I was pointing to the fact that many
> newcomers did not see the instructions tab and so did not use the new
> Digital Globe imagery, and stayed using Bing (that was before today's post
> disaster imagery). But I unfortunately received no answer. I am not here to
> complain about that: I understand that there may be a lot of other things
> to do during these days.
>
>
>> I just saw 4 tiles on the #2223 - Hurricane Matthew: Grand Anse coast
>> project and all were wrong according to me (but maybe I am wrong and
>> somebody have to tell me): - task #53 was checked "complete" by
>> @michaelcraven, but many buildings were missing. - and the 3 main tasks of
>> ANSE D'HAINAULT town : #232, #233 and #13. All 3 were clearly not done
>> using Digital Globe imagery so it missed a lot of things.
>>
>
> I think some more warnings and advices written in the instructions tabs
> would be very simple and quite effective.
>
> Cheers,
> Romain Bousson (mapping as Romainbou)
>
> 2016-10-12 19:34 GMT+02:00 Severin Menard <severin.men...@gmail.com>:
>
>> The edits on hotosm.org job #2228 <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2228>
>> have started and now happens what I feared. There is no mention of what are
>> the necessary skills and newbies are coming with a lot of enthusiasm but
>> with almost no OSM experience. A quick analysis of the first 29
>> contributors shows that 20 of them have created their OSM account less than
>> one month ago. Some did it yesterday or today. Wow.
>>
>> The result of that : obviously, crappy edits are coming, spoiling what we
>> have been doing over the last few days : now we have building as nodes
>> where shapes are totally visible, un-squared bad shaped buildings and the
>> main landuse area is self-cutting in various places (see there
>> <https://leslibresgeographes.org/jirafeau/f.php?h=26gWjHki=1>).
>>
>> Nothing new under the sun : it was already the case for Haiti EarthQuake
>> 2010. Quite a pity that six years after, despite the OSM tools have
>> improved a lot, it remains the same. It is though quite simple to fix the
>> most part of it: do-not-invite-newcomers-to-map
>> -over-complex-crisis-contexts.
>>
>> I guess some will argue that the OSM newcomers are people of good will
>> and that they just want to help and that they my feel offended/discouraged.
>> Of course their intentions are high and yes they may feel a bit hurt. But
>> this is really a classic in humanitarian response: people with the best
>> intentions in the world may not fit for it, just because they are not
>> experienced yet.
>>
>> Mapping in OSM in crisis response is not an exciting one-shot hobby : it
>> does have its learning curve and it is key to learn how to map correctly
>> before being dropped over complex humanitarian contexts. This is why I
>> mentioned three sets of necessary skills for the jobs I created these last
>> days on http://taches.francophonelibre.org. And the beginner mappers who
>> joined the job that fitted for beginners are people that already have a few
>> months of OSM experience, not newcomers

Re: [HOT] Hurricane Matthew Mapping Urgently Needed

[Dale Kunce]

Hurricane Matthew as predicted caused catastrophic damage to Haiti that is
still recovering from the 2010 earthquake. The main damage is located in
western Haiti in Grand Anse, Sud, and Nippes Departments. Current estimates
are that over 800 people have died, thousands are in shelters, and 80% of
all structures are damaged.[1][2]

The HOT community rallied to meet the challenges of mapping this large
area. Just a few months ago and prior to the storm as part of a malaria
campaign Missing Maps lead by Clinton Health Access Initiative and HOT
remotely mapped all structures in the heavily damaged Grand Anse
department. As the storm predictions became dire and in the last few days
over 1,000 mappers contributed over 1.2 million edits, adding 180,000
buildings to the map concentrated in the most affected areas. [2] Together
you have mapped entire cities such as Jereme, Les Cayes, and Petit-Goave.[3]

The mapping is not done however. As humanitarian groups are able to conduct
assessments and plan relief efforts our mapping must continue. Digital
Globe generously donated recent pre-event imagery and is actively tasking
new areas for post-event imagery.[4] New tasks are created almost every day
as new information comes in from the field and new imagery comes online.

I've seen the difference that these maps can make to humanitarian work in
the field first hand. I strongly encourage everyone to map a little bit
this weekend. I also encourage you to find a few friends and teach them how
to map as well.[5]

Lastly, many people on this list actively deploy to disasters. If you need
help or would like HOT to direct its amazing volunteers to map an area of
interest not yet covered, please send a note to activat...@hotosm.org. If
you would like to help manage the activation please feel free to join us on
Slack.[7]

   1.
   
https://app.klipfolio.com/published/ec77978d9513651515591847f84e4e61/hurricane-matthew-#

   2.
   
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/world/americas/after-hurricane-matthew-devastation-in-southern-haiti.html
   3. http://bl.ocks.org/d/40e98b36a9b97a6869c04555c127c930
   4.
   
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=hurricanematthew#9/18.3650/-73.5315
   5.
   
http://blog.digitalglobe.com/2016/10/07/open-data-volunteer-mapping-to-support-hurricane-response-in-haiti/
   6. http://tasks.hotosm.org
   7. https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/


On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Kevin Bullock <kbull...@digitalglobe.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Blake and Mike for your feedback on this. I work at DG and all of
> this imagery over Haiti is from us (via Bing, Mapbox or direct from us). If
> we are seeing 1m-2m offsets, that is completely normal/expected. the
> circular error of our satellites is approximately 3m in any direction.
> Please let me know how I can help.
>
> Best, Kevin Bullock
>
>
> > On Oct 7, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike, that is good too.
> >
> > Typically, we adjust the background imagery to match the existing
> > mapping as that is easier for iD users.
> >
> > But either way works.
> >
> > The most difficult is when there is mapping that is based on multiple
> > imagery offsets, but again, we can work with that too.
> >
> > I just updated the imagery for Project 2210, so I expect a lot of
> > imagery offset issues, but I updated the instructions as well, so
> > hopefully that helps address some of the questions.
> >
> > Small offset differences of 1 or 2 meters is not a problem for the
> > relief effort use cases at all. The only issue that it causes is as
> > you said, roads over lapping buildings or buildings overlapping each
> > other.
> >
> > If we can avoid those overlaps, other small offset differences are
> > much less critical.
> >
> > Thank you to everyone!
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I have been adjusting all buildings to the new imagery in the tasks I
> have
> >> worked on.  If that causes a road or other physical feature to run
> through a
> >> building, I adjust that other feature too. I hope that is the proper
> >> procedure.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Leon,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for the info, I am looking into it now.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Blake
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Leon van der Meulen
> >>> <leonvandermeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hey Dale,
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a major offset in th

Re: [HOT] Hurricane Matthew Mapping Urgently Needed

[Dale Kunce]

We are coordinating the mapping efforts on Slack. If you would like to join
the HOT slack channel just click the link below and you'll have access. All
are welcome.

https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:44 AM, Elise White <elis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dale,
>
> Thank you very much for this information and our well wishes.
>
> Kind regards,
> Elise
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Elise,
>> Thanks so much for reaching out. The learning curve to start mapping
>> takes about 15 min for basic mapping of buildings. Instructions are
>> included in each tasks and more how to map videos are available via
>> YouTube.
>>
>> If you would like GIS data from the OSM this is also available and most
>> easily downloaded from http://export.hotosm.org
>>
>> As far as shelters please share and we can work to get them included in
>> OSM. We have already done some of this exact same work for Haiti and
>> Jamaica.
>>
>> Feel free to reach out again if the above isn't clear or you need more
>> help. Stay safe and good luck through the storm.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2016 5:20 AM, "Elise White" <elis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good Morning,
>>>
>>> Thank you Dale for this information on Task 2196. I am a local GIS
>>> Technician on Grand Bahama island in the Bahamas, but I am a novice when it
>>> comes to HOT. I am trying to learn quickly so that I can contribute as much
>>> as I can. Is the learning curve steep on HOT? I am asking because I would
>>> like to promote this and other tasks through my friends, family and
>>> colleagues to get people contributing their knowledge of the areas. I have
>>> coordinates for shelters on Grand Bahama, but not for the other islands,
>>> just a list with names. I am wondering how easily others who are not so
>>> familiar with mapping can help locating these shelters on the other islands.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Elise White
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hurricane Matthew continues to strengthen and is advancing on Haiti and
>>>> the Bahamas. The next day is very important to keep mapping so that relief
>>>> and humanitarian organizations like the Red Cross and others can help those
>>>> affected in the coming days.
>>>>
>>>> We need to keep the mapping going. Some areas with potential
>>>> "catastrophic" damage are still unmapped.
>>>>
>>>> https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-matthew-
>>>> caribbean-haiti-jamaica-cuba-bahamas-forecast-oct2
>>>>
>>>> Please help HOT by contributing the mapping. Task 2196
>>>> <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2196> is live right now and needs
>>>> more mappers. The activation team anticipates additional projects for Haiti
>>>> and the Bahamas over the next few days.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your contribution and continued support of HOT.
>>>>
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>>>> Vice-President
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>>>>
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>>
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Re: [HOT] Hurricane Matthew Mapping Urgently Needed

[Dale Kunce]

Elise,
Thanks so much for reaching out. The learning curve to start mapping takes
about 15 min for basic mapping of buildings. Instructions are included in
each tasks and more how to map videos are available via YouTube.

If you would like GIS data from the OSM this is also available and most
easily downloaded from http://export.hotosm.org

As far as shelters please share and we can work to get them included in
OSM. We have already done some of this exact same work for Haiti and
Jamaica.

Feel free to reach out again if the above isn't clear or you need more
help. Stay safe and good luck through the storm.

Dale

On Oct 4, 2016 5:20 AM, "Elise White" <elis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good Morning,
>
> Thank you Dale for this information on Task 2196. I am a local GIS
> Technician on Grand Bahama island in the Bahamas, but I am a novice when it
> comes to HOT. I am trying to learn quickly so that I can contribute as much
> as I can. Is the learning curve steep on HOT? I am asking because I would
> like to promote this and other tasks through my friends, family and
> colleagues to get people contributing their knowledge of the areas. I have
> coordinates for shelters on Grand Bahama, but not for the other islands,
> just a list with names. I am wondering how easily others who are not so
> familiar with mapping can help locating these shelters on the other islands.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elise White
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hurricane Matthew continues to strengthen and is advancing on Haiti and
>> the Bahamas. The next day is very important to keep mapping so that relief
>> and humanitarian organizations like the Red Cross and others can help those
>> affected in the coming days.
>>
>> We need to keep the mapping going. Some areas with potential
>> "catastrophic" damage are still unmapped.
>>
>> https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-matthew-
>> caribbean-haiti-jamaica-cuba-bahamas-forecast-oct2
>>
>> Please help HOT by contributing the mapping. Task 2196
>> <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2196> is live right now and needs more
>> mappers. The activation team anticipates additional projects for Haiti and
>> the Bahamas over the next few days.
>>
>> Thanks again for your contribution and continued support of HOT.
>>
>> --
>> Dale Kunce
>> Vice-President
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>
>>
>>
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[HOT] Hurricane Matthew Mapping Urgently Needed

[Dale Kunce]

Hurricane Matthew continues to strengthen and is advancing on Haiti and the
Bahamas. The next day is very important to keep mapping so that relief and
humanitarian organizations like the Red Cross and others can help those
affected in the coming days.

We need to keep the mapping going. Some areas with potential "catastrophic"
damage are still unmapped.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-matthew-caribbean-haiti-jamaica-cuba-bahamas-forecast-oct2

Please help HOT by contributing the mapping. Task 2196
<http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2196> is live right now and needs more
mappers. The activation team anticipates additional projects for Haiti and
the Bahamas over the next few days.

Thanks again for your contribution and continued support of HOT.

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Re: [HOT] Shelter list Jamaica, help wanted

[Dale Kunce]

I just preemptively published a task for Haiti.


http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2195


Much of the area hasn't been mapped since 2010 it looks like.


At this time HOT has not activated and this is purely
for preparation incase the situation becomes more likely in the next 24
hours.


Dale




On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote:

> Looks like the hurricane is moving away from Jamaica, towards Haiti.
>
> https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2016/Hurricane-Matthew
>
> Sameer
>
> On Oct 1, 2016 8:57 AM, "Milo van der Linden" <m...@dogodigi.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> The list of shelters is available as csv on gist:
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/milovanderlinden/9d8d68f4cb0d72f29f1ca375d5338d18
>>
>> And I am in the process of looking them up and mapping them to
>> openstreetmap. If anyone cares to join in and help, please let me know!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Milo
>>
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Re: [HOT] Is there a tutorial video perhaps on how to map a highway?

[Dale Kunce]

John,
This video is available on the HOT youtube channel and is cross posted on
the missing maps website.

https://youtu.be/ZBLwb2nisJQ

http://www.missingmaps.org/contribute/



On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:44 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm seeing some mappers put a node in on a track every 3 inches even when
> its straight.
>
> Is there something somewhere about what is appropriate number of nodes on
> a highway?
>
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Re: [HOT] 1794 Ecuador

[Dale Kunce]

1794 should be archived at this time. There is no longer any good high-res
imagery for the project.

I can do this Humberto if you would like me to.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 2:06 PM, hyan...@gmail.com <hyan...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks John.
>
> Yes, new projects to come with new pre - post imagery.
>
> We are now in pre-event imagery TM projects, starting with
> avaibie-more-new imagery: Bing; Mapbox and IGM - Ecuador.
>
> Please add a line to instruction for this tasks with low resolution or
> empty imagery.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Humberto
>
> 2016-04-19 12:58 GMT-05:00 john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Very large chunks of this project are low res in Bing.
>>
>> Since many of these tiles have been marked done and low res if there is
>> better imagery available could either a new project be made up or the
>> existing project instructions be amended.
>>
>> Thanks John
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Re: [HOT] Tagging evacuation centers

[Dale Kunce]

I like 'evacuation_center=yes' that way it fits more with the global
context and can be used to denote facilities that are sometimes evac
centers as is the case in most of the world.



On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Paul Uithol <paul.uit...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Something that recently came up in Tanzania in discussions with municipals
> officials and the Tanzanian Red Cross Society is mapping of proposed
> evacuation centers.
>
> I've found some text on this on the talk-us list (
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2016-February/015874.html),
> where it's noted the `evacuation_center` tag is being used in the
> Philippines, but this appears to be a broader issue. A complicating
> factor is that in Dar (as in other places, as noted in the other thread) most
> of these places have other primary purposed (schools, playgrounds, etc).
>
> Has anyone encountered this in other contexts as well, or used another tag
> in a different locations perhaps? Would be good to have a
> documented/standard way of tagging these I'd say, would enable them to show
> up on the HDM style and presets as well?
>
> best,
>
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Re: [HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

[Dale Kunce]

We are looking into why it's getting slow sometimes.

For the hashtags the easiest way is to prepopulate them into the tasking
manager.

If you have any suggestions or feedback feel free to file github tickets so
we can be sure to add it to our backlog.
On Apr 18, 2016 11:42 AM, "Jo"  wrote:

> I take that back, it's not entirely useless. We only need to figure out a
> way to consolidate the lines where people forgot to add the specific code
> with the ones where they did add it. I guess Pandas or R should be able to
> do that, but I'm still rather busy validating the tasks.
>
> This is the url with ULG added:
>
>
> http://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/belgiumunis,ulb,vub,ugent,kul,unamur,ucl,ulg
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2016-04-18 17:23 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>
>> It's rather worthless this way anyway, but Liège doesn't seem to be
>> present in the comparison.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>> 2016-04-18 17:00 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe :
>>
>>> And it's back. But either something went terribly wrong, or our mappers
>>> only added the extra tags in a good 10% of changesets...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/belgiumunis,ulb,vub,ugent,kul,unamur,ucl
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Can we extend the time a tile is locked please?

[Dale Kunce]

John,
I've seen this a lot to and I think it's how iD is used in the mapathon.
When you have lots of mappers ID struggles to redraw the area after a save.
Another problem is that if it's a dense area ID will hide features to
reduce drawing time and increase browser performance.

In general I think the old 2 hour per tile is way way to long. We try and
make tiles for beginners that are about 30 min worth of work. This
increases the amount of tiles completed and gives folks a better sense of
accomplishment even if it's the same amount of mapping.
On Apr 17, 2016 8:26 AM, "Ralf Stephan"  wrote:

> I have seen this too recently, and I also always thought the time too
> short in general.
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM john whelan  wrote:
>
>> When validating I'm seeing buildings double mapped.  I've seen fifty on a
>> tile.  They are both a pain to clean up and a waste of mapper resources.
>>
>> What I think is happening is maperthon mappers going off for lunch or a
>> coffee break and leaving the tile locked.  The time lock expires, someone
>> else grabs the tile but the first mapper continues to map.  Now we have two
>> mappers mapping at the same time on the same tile.
>>
>> I've also seen highways double mapped etc.
>>
>> Ideally a six hour time lock would save a lot of this double mapping but
>> there are trade offs.
>>
>> Could six hours be made the default but for a particular urgent project
>> the project manager could set a lower value?
>>
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Re: [HOT] Management metrics

[Dale Kunce]

Missing maps will soon roll out a feature that tracks these stats for all
tasks on the tasking manager. Our goal is more focused on individual badges
but the data could be used for other purposes.

Once tested I'm sure anyone can take advantage of it and build the summary
pages mentioned.

Dale
On Apr 15, 2016 1:42 PM, "Tyler Radford"  wrote:

> Hi John and Andrew, I think this is a good idea, I know it would be useful
> for me as well. I added an issue in GitHub so we don't lose sight of the
> need.
>
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/779
>
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> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Andrew Buck 
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>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> It would be good to put together some stats on these things, I don't
>> think we know them.  All are fairly easy to do as database queries on
>> the task manager database though.  Would be nice to have a page on the
>> task manager that showed these summary statistics.  We have talked
>> about things like this before, such as a list of the most recently
>> completed tiles, newest users, etc.  The page that lists these kinds
>> of things would be a good place to also show the ones you asked about.
>>
>> - -AndrewBuck
>>
>>
>> On 02/29/2016 08:44 AM, john whelan wrote:
>> > Do we know the average number of tiles mapped per day?
>> >
>> > Do we know the average number of tiles validated per day?
>> >
>> > How many outstanding tiles need to be mapped?
>> >
>> > How many outstanding tiles have been mapped but not validated?
>> >
>> > The reason this stuff is important is that it gives an indication
>> > of capacity and how far behind we are.  Sometimes I suspect we are
>> > overly optimistic about how much mapping capacity we have and
>> > perhaps it is time to slow down on new activations and even revisit
>> > some old ones and ask other than the missing map value is
>> > continuing to map this project of as much value as one of the more
>> > urgent ones?
>> >
>> > Thanks John
>> >
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Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

[Dale Kunce]

I agree with Mike. This is part training, which I think we all strive to do
a good job on. I know all the Missing Maps one stress the need to square
buildings. It's frustrating to watch new mappers try and square stuff to
not have it work. Simply saying they weren't trained enough is not a good
enough answer and is short sighted for the vast majority of new mappers.

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016, 4:58 PM Mike Thompson  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>
>> On 4/14/2016 1:16 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Those are both things that I already tell new mappers. But they type 's'
>> and think they have made a square building.  We can talk about how that
>> they should notice that nothing changed, but no one has ever asked me "why
>> doesn't the 's' key work?" Perhaps they think that the squaring happens
>> behind the scene and isn't visible? Who knows. Below are some of the
>> results (blue buildings) from a recent mapathon.
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> They're not attempting to square the buildings, which indicates a problem
>> with how they're being instructed.
>>
> They were given 20 minutes of instruction / demonstration on a projector
> in a classroom, as well as provided with written instructions.  I am
> certainly open to - and always attempting to - improve my instruction.  But
> I feel the instruction at this event was pretty good. In any event, having
> to explain, "the 's' key will only work if you are reasonably close and
> there is no error message" is just one more thing to explain and for the
> new mappers to remember.
>
> These are not the exact buildings as those were fixed during the mapathon
> (sorry for the confusion), but at this mapathon I did walk over to more
> than one mapper and watch them square a building with the 's' key, have
> nothing happen, and then move on.  Most of the buildings they had drawn
> were not square.  I pointed out the error and they did fix their buildings.
> There should at least be an error message, something like "Failed to square
> building, please redraw with angles 90 +/- 12 degrees"
>
>>
>>
>> If all of those buildings have square corners in reality, there's a
>> second problem that some are so crudely drawn that neither iD or JOSM will
>> come up with a sensible result when attempting to do so.
>>
> JOSM will make the change, it may not match the imagery, but it will be
> obvious that something has changed, hopefully prompting the user to make
> adjustments and try again.
>
>>
>>
>
>> Mike
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Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

[Dale Kunce]

+1 Mike. The need to draw square buildings is really a check to have new
mappers draw more *accurate* buildings.


On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:11 AM, <m...@chrisfleming.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Are non squared building really a big deal, apart from visually? Can we
>> not live at least initially with building as traced?
>>
> If the angles are 90+/- some little bit I don't think it would matter.
> The problem is that once you remove the requirement for squaring some
> (usually very new) mappers will draw grossly distorted buildings.  These
> are so visually unappealing as to reduce the usefulness and trustworthiness
>  of the map IMHO.
>
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Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

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Re: [HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

[Dale Kunce]

Joost,
It's *not case sensitive*. It looks like the backend workers basically
stopped working yesterday. Working on getting everything back up and
running in the next couple of hours and we should still be able to track
all of the edits yesterday.

Good luck on Saturday and let me know if you have any other questions.

Dale

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wrote:

> Is this thing case sensitive?
>
> There are no statistics about task 1775, and I see it suggesting #MissingMaps
>  as opposed to #missingmaps as a changeset comment. If that's the case,
> we should really keep an eye on these comments!
>
>  Example:
> http://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/missingmaps,hotosm-project-1775
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Re: [HOT] Difficulty in communicating with iD users

[Dale Kunce]

I'm totally against HOT maintaining a fork of ID. It sounds simple enough
in the beginning but will be more difficult as time goes on.

Updating training materials is a pretty simple thing to do as we should try
and refresh them regularly anyway.
On Mar 6, 2016 10:55 PM, "Mikel Maron"  wrote:

> People, get a grip.
>
> There are a lot of cool ideas that have risen and re-risen in this thread.
> Custom iD presets for HOT tasks, tighter coordination between training
> guides and software release cycles, better management of tags across OSM.
>
> HOT excels in emergencies, but this isn't one. The label "unclassified
> road" has changed to "minor road". This is a good thing (
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2916) and something we can
> easily get our minds around.
>
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[HOT] Missing Maps French Translation Help

[Dale Kunce]

The new Missing Maps website was released last week and has a bunch of new
features including new users pages and leaderboards.

As soon as the new site was released a bunch of folks wanted to localize
and translate the site. We have a french version started and need some help
to finish it up. Please go ahead and checkout the localization branch and
update the fr.yml file and submit a pull request back to the branch.

https://github.com/MissingMaps/missingmaps.github.io/issues/135

Once we finish french we would love to have the site translated to other
languages that meet the needs of HOT and Missing Maps.

Thanks so much in advance.

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Re: [HOT] A Fiji project for experienced mappers interested in a new damage assessment methodology

[Dale Kunce]

I wasn't part of the discussions to make this a tasks but agree it should
not be a task.

During activations we have as much responsibility for the things we choose
*not* to map as those that are mapped. Previous work in the aftermath of
typhoon Haiyan showed that damage assessment from nadir satellite imagery
is very difficult for remote mappers and yeilds bad data for the most part.
In Haiyan there was only a 30% success rate. HOT is much better and
successful at mapping other things that are more valuable for the relief
effort than building damage assessment.

http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment/

Another thing complicating this task and activation is that no group, NGO,
or government is asking for this data. Field teams in Fiji are not asking
for OSM data at this time. There is a long understanding that HOT does not
and should not map unless there is a requesting group.

The tasking manager as a software development project is open for anyone to
use and contribute. However, the HOT Tasking Manager is a tool for HOT thus
we have roles and privileges on the server. In this instance a decision was
made by senior activatiors that we should not at this time pursue this
tasks.
On Mar 2, 2016 6:47 AM, "Rod Bera"  wrote:

> Hi Mikel,
>
> (not discussing  here the pertinence of task #1575).
>
> I already gave my views on the OSMF list prior to your election to the
> board but this episode is an illustration of what we should not see in OSM.
>
> I wish to emphasise that OSM has nothing to do with HOT's Activation
> Working Group and not OSM tool should be controlled by it.
>
> therefore what you call OSMTM (OPENSTREETMAP Tasking manager) is not OPEN.
> Therefore NOT OPENSTREETMAP.
>
> Please stop claiming so.
>
> ... unless the Tasking Manager (re)becomes truly open. the TM was
> thought as a common for OSM, and having it the thing of a smaller group
>  (which decides who can propose a task and postpone/archive/veto tasks)
> is a real problem.
>
> Otherwise, facing censorship on the TM there are chances that some
> dedicated mappers favour the emergence of an alternative TM (or worse,
> alternative TMs), which would raise other issues (possible concurrent
> tasks on the same regions, etc) unless we develop indexing mechanisms
> (like cross-harvesting INSPIRE catalogues).
>
> This issue should be discussed within OSMF to find the best way to
> transfer the governance of a self claimed OSM tool (which right now it
> is not) back to the OSM community.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod
>
>
>
> On 02/03/16 02:07, Mikel Maron wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > This project hasn't been raised or discussed within the AWG, and raises
> > a number of issues that require careful consideration. For the time
> > being in Fiji, we're focusing on updating the base map only, and this
> > particular OSMTM project has been archived.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Mikel
> >
> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 6:28 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Stronger cyclones are likely to become more frequent with climate
> > change. Categorie 5 cyclone Winston severely hit Fiji on Feb 20th. A
> > state of natural disaster was declared for 30 days. Ten days later,
> the
> > death toll is 43, at least, and more than 50,000 persons who have
> lost
> > their homes are still living in evacuation centers.
> >
> > Improving recovery capabilities is part of Disaster Risk Reduction
> > (DRR). Assessing the damage and obtaining accurate and actionable
> > information as quickly as possible is critical. Ziad Al Achkar,
> Isaac L.
> > Baker and Nathaniel A. Raymond, of the Signal Program on Human
> Security
> > and Technology at the Harvard Humanitarian Initiative (HHI) published
> > these last days a study that describes a new methodology to
> standardize
> > remote assessments of wind disaster damage, from satellite, aerial or
> > drone imagery, named the “BAR methodology”, with a foreword by Ray
> > Shirkodai, Executive Director of the Pacific Disaster Center,
> “Assessing
> > Wind Disaster Damage To Structures”
> > <
> http://hhi.harvard.edu/publications/satellite-imagery-interpretation-guide-assessing-wind-disaster-damage-structures
> >
> >
> > This methodology takes into account structure categories visible in
> the
> > imagery, sorted in “A) Light strength structures (the most
> vulnerable);
> > B) Medium strength structures (moderately vulnerable); and C) Heavy
> > strength structures (usually the least vulnerable).”
> >
> > Each structure is also assigned a damage scale, which is as follows:
> “0
> > = no visible damage to the structure; 1 = visible partial roof
> damage; 2
> > = the roof has suffered significant damage or is completely off, but
> the
> > walls remain standing; and 3 = the walls and the roofs are down and
> the
> > 

Re: [HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

[Dale Kunce]

Mike,
For right now the Missing Maps site is only tracking users that make an OSM
commit using the #missingmaps hashtag. If you use other hashtags at the
same time those edits will be tracked as well.

In the future we hope to allow tracking of all users and all hashtags.

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The missing maps website now has a function when you can see your
> contribution stats (or anyone else's)[1]. However, when I enter my OSM user
> name (tekim) nothing happens.  Does one somehow have to connect one's OSM
> user name to missing maps? I have made quite a few edits to the 
> #hotosm-project-1544
> over the past few days.
>
> Mike
>
> [1]http://www.missingmaps.org/users/#/
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Re: [HOT] Beginner Project for Mapathon

[Dale Kunce]

Mike,
I'm happy to help out and get you a good task for the Red Cross. How many
people are you expecting? Very excited to see our first mapathon in Wyoming.

Dale

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The University of Wyoming in Laramie will be hosting their first mapathon
> on March 9th. I am attempting to help them by selecting a project from the
> tasking manager that would be suitable for those who have not been exposed
> to OSM before (or in some cases have not done any mapping). Something like
> the Swaziland malaria eradication projects would be ideal, but it looks
> like those are nearly complete. Could someone recommend a few projects that
> they could choose from?  If it was connected to the Red Cross or The
> Missing Maps project that would be even better as the local chapter of the
> American Red Cross in interesting in helping to promote the event.
>
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>
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Re: [HOT] Border Crossing West Africa

[Dale Kunce]

Great feedback. I think we will incorporate both of these as they come up.
Thanks for the confirmation.

Dale

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 5:50 AM, Michael Heißmeier <
michae...@digital-filestore.de> wrote:

> Hi Dale,
>
> Dale Kunce schrieb 2016-01-23 03:17:
>
> The Red Cross is continuing our work on mapping the border areas of the
> Ebola affected countries in West Africa. Today something that came up is
> how exactly to tag border crossings. These are vital for humanitarian and
> epidemiology. There is a barrier=border_control
> <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/barrier=border_control#map> tag
> but from my reading of the wiki
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dborder_control> it
> doesn't apply to places where there is no fence. Often the borders in West
> Africa are a river ferry with an office set back some distance away.
>
> I wanted to see people thoughts about the best way forward to track these
> features while still working within OSM conventions.
>
>
> I interpret the wiki so that the tag refers to the checkpoint on a way
> which crosses a border. I do not see that it has to be part of a border
> line. In practice most checkpoints will not be on the border line proper
> but rather inside a country's territory. So I would apply the tag on the
> position of the way where the control takes places, typically one location
> on either side of the border.
>
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[HOT] Border Crossing West Africa

[Dale Kunce]

The Red Cross is continuing our work on mapping the border areas of the
Ebola affected countries in West Africa. Today something that came up is
how exactly to tag border crossings. These are vital for humanitarian and
epidemiology. There is a barrier=border_control
<https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/barrier=border_control#map> tag but
from my reading of the wiki
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dborder_control> it
doesn't apply to places where there is no fence. Often the borders in West
Africa are a river ferry with an office set back some distance away.

I wanted to see people thoughts about the best way forward to track these
features while still working within OSM conventions.


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Re: [HOT] Getting organised

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 sense of ownership.
>>
>> The other five I'd let the board decide.
>>
>> Then we have the dead wood projects that clutter up the medium priority,
>> these are projects where no one has mapped or validated for more than a
>> month.  It maybe the imagery is poor, the instructions too complex, or
>> whatever.  I'd downgrade these to low priority, that way the active
>> projects would stand out more and again stand more chance of completion.
>>
>> It might even be worthwhile having a weighting attached to each project,
>> the more active projects or highly validated projects move up the list the
>> less active ones move down.  It just needs a tag for the task list to
>> order.  The actual computation can be done off line say once a day and
>> someone else can sort out the algorithm.
>>
>> Can we get more out of our mappers?
>>
>> I think we can.  On project 1390 I validated as people mapped.  New
>> mappers got feedback, the advantage is they get a bit more involved and
>> feel engaged.  So we got more tiles out of them.  We got 6 or more tiles
>> out of a number of new mappers or ones who had mapped less than six tiles
>> before, typically I'd expect one or two tiles from them.  On the data
>> quality side I think it was up.  By correcting problems early on the new
>> mappers made less mistakes that need intervention later on from the
>> validation side.  However it takes effort, the faster the feedback the
>> better the results.
>>
>> Validation is a tricky.  HOT isn't traditional OSM where individuals like
>> to map park benches or waste bins.  There is a service level to be met, and
>> if the building is five feet out, well that's probably good enough although
>> we  should strive for accuracy.  It's a bit lets get something useful done
>> with the resources we have.  Normal good management technique is catch them
>> doing something right.  So invalidating a tile is the last thing you want
>> to do.  I normally correct then leave a note, such as added fourteen
>> settlements. Where possible third party it JOSM validation picked up the
>> following: African wiki suggests higway=living street in an African small
>> village may not be appropriate and I must confess I normally delete any
>> zebra pedestrian crossing I come across in Africa.  There is another issue
>> with experienced OSM mappers HOT has its own conventions, such as
>> everything that looks like a building is mapped as an area and tagged
>> building=yes.  Some OSM mappers use a node tagged building=hut etc.  Giving
>> feedback is delicate because in the OSM world what they are doing is
>> acceptable.
>>
>> The worst validation is by someone who has mapped two tiles.  I recently
>> double checked one and JOSM validation picked up a dozen problems and
>> visually there were a few more.  This is a data quality issue and it
>> becomes a matter of are any of the validated tiles to be trusted.  In Nepal
>> this was a major issue.
>>
>> We don't have enough good tactful validators.
>>
>> 1390 was also interesting in that I came across an MSF volunteer, new
>> mapper who mapped accurately, did a fair number of tiles but when it was
>> complete wanted to know which MSF project to map next.  So project managers
>> need to have something in the pipeline.
>>
>> Project managers need to understand the mappers.  We have more
>> inexperienced mappers than experienced ones.  Projects that demand only
>> buildings and have documentation on how to map them work well.  Projects
>> that ask for landuse=residential and connecting highways to be tagged
>> unclassified work well.  Ones that ask for forests, and everything else
>> don't work as well.  New mappers get confused and give up and take up
>> basket weaving instead which is not what we'd like.
>>
>> Mapping should be fun.
>>
>> Anyway there is enough to mull over.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
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Re: [HOT] #1394 - Kinshasa Floods

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Another problem is iD hiding some features at some zoom levels. The
notification isn't large enough for beginning mappers. So many features get
mapped several times in dense areas.

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 12:12 PM Bryan Housel  wrote:

> Hey Blake, your description of the bug is exactly right.  We’ve made a few
> improvements (like introducing a delay to the save), but it can still
> happen sometimes.
> We’re tracking this issue here:
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1646
>
> The telltale signature is when you see a person add a bunch of things, and
> then that same person adds them again a few minutes later (because they did
> not show up post save).
>
> If you see multiple people adding the same things, that’s not an iD issue
> - that’s just multiple people editing in the same location, which we can’t
> do anything about..
>
> Thanks, Bryan
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>
> Hi Henning,
>
> I am not really sure why it happens, someone explained it to me this way,
> but someone who knows more about iD would have to confirm it because I
> might not be remembering it correctly:
>
> When you map with iD things are kept locally as you map them. But then
> when you hit "Save" they get uploaded to the server and iD tries to
> download them from the server to display.
>
> So if there is a delay in the osm servers being able to send what you just
> mapped back to the iD editor for some reason (database update latency or
> network issues) iD can not display what you just saved, so it looks like it
> just "disappeared" and then people map it again.
>
> That is my understanding, and it seems to be rare, but it does seem to
> happen I have been told.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
>
> On 12/29/2015 2:47 PM, Henning Bolz wrote:
>
> Hi Leon,
> the best way to handle this is to delete it and start again.
> And, as Blake said, to inform the mapper who originally did this.
> I have seen this "double mapping" very often and it can be very annoying.
> Blake, do you know why ID is doing this, or in which situation? Can it
> be avoided?
> Regards
> Henning (hebolz)
> -
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 29. Dezember 2015 um 14:18 Uhr
> *Von:* "Blake Girardot" 
> *An:* "Leon van der Meulen" , "HOT
> Openstreetmap" 
> *Betreff:* Re: [HOT] #1394 - Kinshasa Floods
> Hi Leon,
>
> That task square in particular could use some fixing up. Sometimes in
> the iD editor it will fail to display what someone has just mapped so
> things get mapped twice by the same person.
>
> As to the residential areas: I usually do the larger overall residential
> area and then in this case, would have the "cutouts" for the
> agricultural ares.
>
> Again, I think that task square in particular was mapped by a new mapper
> who was not sure the best way to map that area and wasn't sure what an
> allotment was.
>
> It should be pretty easy to fix up so if you wanted to take a few
> minutes and fix it up that would be great.
>
> And I would send a note to the new mapper when you are done, just
> explaining you fixed it up, how and provide a link to the revised task
> square so they can see how a more experienced mapper did it.
>
> Thank you for mapping, reviewing and asking questions, it helps everyone
> learn a bit.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
>
>
> On 12/29/2015 11:52 AM, Leon van der Meulen wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I’m just checking out this task and some things just seem a little
> > weird, for example this square:
> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1394#task/162
> > A lot of areas are traced more than once, and residential land use isn’t
> > mapped consistently. Wouldn’t it be better to trace the whole city once
> > as residential and remove the smaller areas? Some are traced between
> > roads, others just seem to be randomly drawn.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Leon
> >
> >
> >
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> > Junior GIS Specialist, Geodienst
> > University of Groningen
> > @leonmeulen
> >
> > To boldly geo where no one has gone before!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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[HOT] Portable OSM

[Dale Kunce]

The American Red Cross GIS Team is constantly looking for new ways to
improve our workflows and learn from the OpenStreetMap and FOSS4G
communities. I'm proud to say that 95% of the GIS analysis and map making
we do is done using FOSS4G tools.

A couple of years ago we realized that to be effective consumers of OSM
data and FOSS4G software we would need to start contributing and developing
ourselves.

In the aftermath of Typhoon Haiyan we identified
<http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment/> a need for a better OSM
field data collection
<http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment/#recommendations> tool
that could work with structured surveys. Eventually we created OpenMapKit
with initial seed money from USAID Global Development Lab. We have used
OpenMapKit <https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/openmapkit> in several Missing
Maps <http://missingmaps.org/> field mapping missions last year in Zimbabwe,
Rwanda, Tanzania, and Bangladesh
<http://osmstories.org/articles/Missing-Maps-community-mapping/>. During
these field trials we noticed that we were continually in need of an OMK
compatible server that did not rely on connected cloud services. Due to the
remoteness of our mapping locations we also needed to have better ways to
interact and edit OSM in a disconnected way for days and potentially weeks
at a time.

This fall, thanks to the Page Family Foundation, we began work on our
largest and most ambitious mapping project to date. Over the next year we
will map 15km on either side of the Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia
borders <https://arcmaps.s3.amazonaws.com/share/west_africa_mapping-01.png>
(large
PNG). This area was well mapped extensively by remote mappers during the
Ebola crisis but lacks ground truthed data such as identifying hospitals,
schools, churches, and other POIs. As part of this project we will
establish a mapping hub in Guéckédou and develop the software and hardware
tools that we need.

[image: mapping hub]

A couple weeks ago I joined the awesome folks from SpatialDev
<http://spatialdev.com/> and Stamen <http://stamen.com/> in Seattle for a
week of brainstorming and hacking. During the week we outlined and
architected Portable OSM (POSM) <https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/posm>.
As part of the project we are helping make several improvements to Field
Papers <https://github.com/fieldpapers/fieldpapers/labels/POSM> and
OpenMapKit
<https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OpenMapKitAndroid/labels/POSM> as well
as introducing a new lightweight OMK Server
<https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OpenMapKitServer> based on SimpleODK
<https://github.com/digidem/simple-odk>. POSM will hopefully be a very
affordable (sub $300) solution to many problems for us including offline
OSM API, OMK Server, and Offline Field Papers.

The project is being developed in the open on github and we are open to
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Re: [HOT] #1393

[Dale Kunce]

Then latest version of iD works fine with IE 11 and Edge.

https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Piaco,
>
> You can simply use the 'unlock' button. It's not possible to validate the
> tiles you marked done, so no worries that would happen by accident. So you
> can relock tiles you marked done and work some more on them, if you'd like
> to.
>
> I'll validate some of your tiles and 'broadcast' it live on twitch:
>
> http://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap
>
> This is something I'm experimenting with. My own 'agenda' is to get people
> started with the JOSM editor. In the bottom of the screen you can see which
> keys/key combinations I type and this will be the first time I'll try to
> add sound...
>
> You can also see previous recordings at a later time.
>
> Jo
>
> 2015-12-17 23:16 GMT+01:00 Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Piaco,
>>
>> It didn't take long to review because your mapping is great. Your mapping
>> is exactly what we do :)
>>
>> You have mapped a ton in Swaziland, that is amazing, thank you so much!
>>
>> I hope you keep with us.
>>
>> I never mapped with Potlatch2 but you seem to be doing well with it.
>>
>> Please let us know if you have anymore questions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2015 10:02 PM, Pia Conrad Mortensen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there.
>>> Since I’m new in this business I would like if someone, who knows better
>>> than me, would look at some of my (piaco) squares. .
>>> I think that some of the really small buidings I’ve mapped actually
>>> could be cars!
>>> How can I enter one of my finished squares and remake it out without
>>> validating it.
>>> When I’m trying to open ID editor I’m redirected to Potlatch2 so thats
>>> what I’m using.
>>>   -I’m really enjoying this so please help me making it OK.
>>> Best regards Pia Conrad M.
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Projects on the HOT OSM Tasking Manager - lots of them

[Dale Kunce]

Ralf and John.
I don't either of you are ranting but providing good feedback that aligns
with my own thinking about tasks. I favor smaller tasks that can be
completed quickly rather than huge tasks that take multiple mappers to
complete.

One thing that I think we are moving towards is a set of guidelines for TM
PMs. This will standardize a lot of language and help keep tasks
manageable. I'm working on a draft that I'll share with the HOT and TM PM
lists once it's ready to share.

Thanks as always for your time.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015, 11:35 AM Ralf Stephan  wrote:

> The key for moving people from one-time to many-time contribution is
> motivation.
> I have seen volunteers suddenly much more motivated when I commented with
> more
> than a few words on a validation I did. But at least equally important is
> task and tile size.
> Large tasks are tackled more than a few times only by long-time
> contributors. Why have
> such big tasks when there is no hurry? I know I am more motivated if tile
> sizes are small.
> I'm sure it's more so with new contributors, so why have such large tiles
> per default, if
> they aren't completed anyway? Everything is made ever more casual, but I
> need 30-60
> minutes to complete the smallest tile size to my satisfaction. Please
> increase the split
> count AND make the default tile size smaller, or you will never get enough
> completed tiles by people who want to invest rather 15 than minutes.
>
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[HOT] Huaquillos Ecuador Mapping

[Dale Kunce]

As part of the Missing Maps project the American Red Cross is starting to
trace the city of Huaquillos, Ecuador. As we get started with the tracing I
wanted to reach out to see if there are any OSM/HOT folks in Ecuador that
would be interested in either helping to remotely trace or are in
Huaquillos and would be interested in participating or potentially helping
to train local Red Cross volunteers how to field map in OSM.

This is the area that we will be mapping. We anticipate our mapping team to
be on the ground sometime in February.

http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1367

Feel free to reach out to me or Drishtie directly.

Dale

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Re: [HOT] Congratulations to the Ramani Huria Team

[Dale Kunce]

Awesome work folks.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I meant to say when this was posted that it’s super cool :). Great work!
>
> —
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>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Yantisa Akhadi <yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Cool! Great job Ramani Huria Team!
>>
>>
>>
>> *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
>> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
>> Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org
>> hot.openstreetmap.org | openstreetmap.id
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 1:41 AM, Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HI everyone, the hard work of the Ramani Huria team is mentioned in this
>>> Al Jazeera piece.
>>>
>>> http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2015/drowning_megacities/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Heather
>>>
>>> Heather Leson
>>> heatherle...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter: HeatherLeson
>>> Blog: textontechs.com
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[HOT] Job Announcement: Red Cross GIS Supervisor

[Dale Kunce]

The Red Cross GIS team is hiring a GIS Supervisor to lead our West Africa
mapping project. Position is based in Liberia and would be a great
opportunity for someone that is ready to lead a team doing OSM field work
for the next year. Unlike past positions you do not need to have work
authorization to work in the US.

https://www.americanredcross.apply2jobs.com/ProfExt/index.cfm?fuseaction=mExternal.showJob=61025=1

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Re: [HOT] Task 1238 Canaan Important Deletion of existing objects

[Dale Kunce]

Rafael,
We decided to do large scale deletion for a number of reasons.

   - Errors within iD that cause many buildings to be traced several times
   thus resulting in many many overlapping buildings.
   - I personally fixed thousands of overlaps and fixed several thousand of
  other validation errors in the area.
   - Poor spatial consistency between multiple imagery resources
  - Bing
  - 2013 drone imagery
  - 2014 drone imagery
  - 2015 drone imagery
  - Recent GeoEye imagery
   - Lack of existing drone imagery led us to acquire high resolution
   satellite imagery.
  - Imagery isn't nearly as clean and sharp as the drone imagery being
  shot but is consistent throughout the entire area.

*Do not *revert these changes as it represents hundreds of man hours by ARC
staff to clean up and fix this area. The area in its current state is the
most up to date the area *has ever been *due to previous efforts by Haiti
Communitaire and the ARC GIS team. We have spent considerable time in the
field and remotely mapping this area.

Again, for continued questions about these changesets please contact me
off-list.

Dale




On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, Pierre:
>
> I guess this is what the majority of people do, and only the most
> experienced users re-trace objects, also using the replace geometry tool
> (CTRL+SHIFT+G). It took me long to me to realise about that too.
>
> As usual in these cases, I would contact him to check what happened, and
> tell him how he should proceed from now on, so he learns the advantages
> of not deleting objects unless really needed, but improving those
> objects instead.
>
> I've checked the edits by that user, and he made lots of changesets
> (maybe around hundred), so I see a potencial reversion very troublesome
> and time consuming.
>
> The first of the changesets seem to have been edited about a month ago
> [1]. So around 6 am 21 Oct 2015.
>
> To check what buildings were at the area before deletion, you may use
> the next overpass query: [2]. As there isn't any Canaan area in OSM,
> just used the ({{bbox}}) thing. I set the date at 00:00:01 of that day
> (so 6 hours before the first changeset).
>
> With this other query [3] you can get a file with the building ways that
> were present at that same date and time, that were deleted, and also
> those that were modified and new buildings created. The output file
> don't open in JOSM, but could be use to get statistical info (for
> example) on number of buildings deleted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rafael.
>
> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34784526
> [2] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cQv
> [3] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cQw
>
>
> On 20/11/15 19:29, Pierre Béland wrote:
> > Being in Port-au-Prince for a Training session of the Haiti
> > OpenStreetMap community (Espace OSM francophone project), I collaborate
> > this week with the Haiti OSM community who have monitored urbanisation
> > progression in the Canaan sector, providing UAV imagery in 2013, 2014
> > and 2015 (60% of the zone covered so far).  They have also added to osm
> > the building footprints in the area from precise and accurate imagery (4
> > cm precision).
> >
> > We organize a mapathon tomorrow to revise the Canaan zone using the
> > November 2015 imagery available and monitor the progress of rapid House
> > contruction in this sector.
> >
> > Planning the work, I see today that one contributor did most of Tak 1238
> > for Canaan Haiti and it seems deleted systematically buildings before
> > redrawing them.  In JOSM if I download buildings and search for newly
> > created buildings (ie version:1), most of the buildings have version=1.
> >
> > If this is exact, we should note that this is contrary to the OSM
> > philosophy. The rule that we generally follow at OSM to respect previous
> > contributions and keep history, is to revise geometry and not delete /
> > retrace.
> >
> > For these two changesets alone, I count 50 and 44 ways deleted.
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35462043
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35462424
> >
> > At the same time, many buildings are missing. Since I have no comparizon
> > with the situation before this mapping, It is hard to say what was done
> > exactly, if any building were erased and not replaced.
> >
> > Could somebody confirm that buildings were systematically deleted before
> > retracing. What should we do to correct rapidly this situation before we
> > start the mapathon tomorrow?
> >
> >
> > Pierre
> >
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Re: [HOT] Task 1238 Canaan Important Deletion of existing objects

[Dale Kunce]

Pierre,
Because of the difficulty in keeping the Canaan area up to date, due to the
rapid urbanization. And a number of recent mapping incomplete efforts ARC
used imagery from September of this year to complete a full QA/QC of the
Canaan area, this included correcting spatial accuracy and updating
building footprints. We spent an entire month of staff time performing this
QA. The data is essential for a coordinated project we are doing with
multiple partners.

Can you confirm the date on the drone imagery? I was told that imagery
flown in 2015 was lost due to a malfunction on the OSM-FR servers. Is this
imagery available? Please be very mindful of the date flown as even a month
can show major changes in the area.

I highly suggest mapping the campeche or onaville areas for the mapathon.
Both projects have up to date high quality satellite imagery and are in
need of more love than central Canaan at the moment.

As always feel free to reach out to me directly if you have further issues
or questions?

Dale

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, 1:32 PM Pierre Béland  wrote:

> Being in Port-au-Prince for a Training session of the Haiti OpenStreetMap
> community (Espace OSM francophone project), I collaborate this week with
> the Haiti OSM community who have monitored urbanisation progression in the
> Canaan sector, providing UAV imagery in 2013, 2014 and 2015 (60% of the
> zone covered so far).  They have also added to osm the building footprints
> in the area from precise and accurate imagery (4 cm precision).
>
> We organize a mapathon tomorrow to revise the Canaan zone using the
> November 2015 imagery available and monitor the progress of rapid House
> contruction in this sector.
>
> Planning the work, I see today that one contributor did most of Tak 1238
> for Canaan Haiti and it seems deleted systematically buildings before
> redrawing them.  In JOSM if I download buildings and search for newly
> created buildings (ie version:1), most of the buildings have version=1.
>
> If this is exact, we should note that this is contrary to the OSM
> philosophy. The rule that we generally follow at OSM to respect previous
> contributions and keep history, is to revise geometry and not delete /
> retrace.
>
> For these two changesets alone, I count 50 and 44 ways deleted.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35462043
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35462424
>
> At the same time, many buildings are missing. Since I have no comparizon
> with the situation before this mapping, It is hard to say what was done
> exactly, if any building were erased and not replaced.
>
> Could somebody confirm that buildings were systematically deleted before
> retracing. What should we do to correct rapidly this situation before we
> start the mapathon tomorrow?
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Task 1238 Canaan Important Deletion of existing objects

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ings are missing. Since I have no comparizon
> > with the situation before this mapping, It is hard to say what was done
> > exactly, if any building were erased and not replaced.
> >
> > Could somebody confirm that buildings were systematically deleted before
> > retracing. What should we do to correct rapidly this situation before we
> > start the mapathon tomorrow?
> >
> >
> > Pierre
> >
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Re: [HOT] Task 1238 Canaan Important Deletion of existing objects

[Dale Kunce]

Hey guys. Sorry I've been offline with my family the last few hours.

I'm not at the event tonight but will contact them them to encourage
mappers to change projects.

Just as an FYI, we've been planning tonight's event for the past couple of
months with many different partners. As part of osmgeoweek we asked
everyone to coordinate to make sure we wouldn't overlap tasks. This is the
only conflict out of over 70 events run because other organizers
coordinated with the HOT about what day and task they would be working on.

Dale

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, 5:57 PM Fred Moine  wrote:

> Dear dale,
>
> Following the email I saw today
>
> For the drone imagery the resolution is 8 cm rather than 50 cm or 30 cm
> for satellite imagery.
>
> The date is November, we just finished the processing.
>
> Since 2013 I am making capacity building for OSM Haiti team mainly with my
> own budget. Only in 2014 we received a small grant.
>
>
> In 2015, we reviewed completely our workflow and in February 2015 we
> started our hydro simulation with elevation model from the drone.
>
> We also tested a near infra-red camera to update the land cover.
>
>
> Now the OSM community are quite ready and will be good to include them as
> their wish was to do a mapping party with this image.
>
>
> It would be good now to let OSM Haiti community benefit first using the
> imagery and have fun with the mapping party they did organize for tomorrow.
> Please, could we respect this whish?
>
>
>
> All the best, FredM
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Re: [HOT] Reference to Drone Imagery in TM1237 - Missing Maps: Campeche, Haiti

[Dale Kunce]

Just to address this quickly.

I love the imagery and use it often for maps and to create data. I love the
work that Fred and Haiti Communitare are doing. I want them to continue to
do it, both for the imagery but also to improve the local OSM community
capacity. ARC has made a commitment both informally and formally to help.

The drone imagery is problematic because it differs dramatically from the
newly acquired WV3 scene. Haiti is a quickly changing city. The drone
imagery shows an entire camp that is no longer present. The spatial
difference is also significant. Lastly, we intend for beginners to trace
the area during mapathons. All of these factors lead me to put the guidance
in.

Instructions to use only the provided WV3 scene are simply to ensure a
better up to date map and are not a judgement of the good quality work
being done by Fred, Pressler, and others in Haiti.

Feel free to contact me off list directly if you have any questions.

Dale
On Nov 11, 2015 8:33 PM, "Frederic Moine"  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> just saw this message
>
>  has poor spatial accuracy  
> https://support.pix4d.com/hc/en-us/articles/202558889-Accuracy-of-Pix4Dmapper-Outputs
>
> About which accuracy we are talking about, and perhaps is better to remove 
> this sentence rather than to spend too much to talk about accuracy;
>
> Since 2011 we are working with UAV for land tenue, census, risk reduction 
> project.
>
> And since 2013, we organized the training of the OSM community in Haiti with 
> drone adventure, cartong, ...
>
> And more after, ready to improve the workflow, ready to make drone image
> as OSM Haiti has some drone in Haiti available especially for OSM project...
>
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Re: [HOT] Admin Boundary Extraction Service

[Dale Kunce]

Samuel,
There is this service I discovered a few days ago.

https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/

Can't speak to its quality yet though.

Dale

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi, Samuel:
>
> Here you have an overpass query to get all boundary relations for all
> states, LGA's and wards of Nigeria, with the admin_centre's and label
> of each relation when available: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cxp
>
> If you want Nigeria country boundary relation too, just change "4|6|8"
> by "2|4|6|8". In case you want for example only states and LGA's, just
> do "4|6", and so on.
>
> In case you want only the boundaries for a certain state, you can use
> this query (this example is for Kano state):
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cxt
>
> In case you don't want the admin_centre's nor labels nodes of any
> relation, you have to run a different query. This one is for Kano:
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cxs
>
> Whenever possible, I advise to use area codes instead names. For
> example, Niger is the name of a state in Central Nigeria, but it's
> also the name of Nigerias north neighbour country: Niger.
>
> Getting the area code is simple: go to osm.org, search for the area
> you are interested in (example Niger), get the relation id we want (in
> our case, let's say we want Nigeria's Niger state relation id, so we
> click in "State Boundary Niger, Nigeria" link, not in "country,
> Niger"), and then we copy it's id (in our example 3718384), and we add
> 36 + 3718384 = 3603718384 to get the Niger state area code for
> overpass queries: (area:3603718384)
>
> To avoid a query to overload your web browser, instead of hitting
> "run" button, click in "Export" button instead. There, go to "Query"
> and then click on "compact" in the "convert to (compact) OverpassQL"
> link. That will open a new window with a compact OverpassQL link.
> Click on it and it will make the query and download directly in your
> file system the result of the query. For example, for the last example
> query (Kano state boundaries without admin_centre's nor labels), the
> link is like this one:
>
> http://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter?data=%5Btimeout%3A250%5D%3B%28relation%5B%22boundary%22%3D%22administrative%22%5D%5B%22admin%5Flevel%22%7E%224%7C6%7C8%22%5D%28area%3A3603710302%29%3B%29%2D%3E%2ErelBoundary%3B%28way%28r%2ErelBoundary%29%3B%29%2D%3E%2EwaysBoundary%3B%28node%28w%2EwaysBoundary%29%3B%29%2D%3E%2EnodesBoundary%3B%28%2ErelBoundary%3B%2EwaysBoundary%3B%2EnodesBoundary%3B%29%3Bout%20meta%3B%0A
>
> If you need any more sofisticated query, just let us know:
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rafael.
>
> On 08/11/15 12:00, Samuel Aiyeoribe wrote:
> > Hello HOTties,
> >
> > Please does anyone know of a service for extracting/downloading
> > OSM Admin Boundary that one can fork and host myself and also
> > available on github.
> >
> > Looking forward to your reply.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Samuel
> >
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Re: [HOT] Suggestion needed for designing an OSM based project

[Dale Kunce]

Ahasanul,
Reach out to Kate Chapman at Cadasta they have a tech stack that might be
more beneficial for you.

Dale

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Nama Budhathoki <namabudhath...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Ahasanul,
>
> I agree with Paul. You are talking about cadastral Information. OSM might
> not be the best platform to capture and store cadastral information.
>
> Nama
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:21 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ahasanul,
>>
>> That sounds like a great project and HOT can help you evaluate all the
>> important points that Paul raised below
>>
>> As always, OSM defers to local insights and understanding of what
>> works best for  the local community.based on their use cases for OSM
>> so lets talk more about it with people from HOT who have planned
>> projects like this before.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> wrote:
>> > On 10/26/2015 10:56 AM, Ahasanul Hoque wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Take greetings from Dhaka Bangladesh. I need a help to design an OSM
>> based
>> >> project. An organization is thinking to digitalise some of their
>> project
>> >> land areas, keep them on open platform and get regular update on the
>> tenure,
>> >> rearrangement of allocation/splitting of the parcels, feature change
>> status
>> >> regularly. But the land parcel's  measurement is a vital, it should
>> have
>> >> inch level accuracy. Also, they are thinking to get all the updates
>> through
>> >> a mobile app from field.
>> >>
>> >> I found a strong potentiality of this idea with OSM . Now wondering, do
>> >> anyone know any example or similar type project what was/were based on
>> OSM ?
>> >> it will be great help for designing the project as well as for
>> spreading OSM
>> >> in Bangladesh if you kindly share the links, report, experience alike.
>> You
>> >> are also welcome to put your valuable suggestion in regards.
>> >>
>> >
>> > OSM and the OSM software stack is designed around crowd-sourcing, which
>> an
>> > inch level accuracy requirement is incompatible with.
>> > This level of accuracy requires expensive specialized equipment with
>> > specialized skills, and you can't use consumer or phone GPS units to
>> record
>> > data.
>> >
>> > Crowd-sourcing makes the technical design of OSM complicated, but here
>> you'd
>> > gain that complexity without gaining its advantages. Additionally, a
>> inch is
>> > near the maximum resolution of the API and many tools designed to
>> consume
>> > OSM data.
>> >
>> > I would recommend you re-evaluate your accuracy requirements to
>> establish if
>> > they are truly necessary.
>> >
>> > Because this isn't a question of humanitarian use of OSM, you might have
>> > more luck with a more general purpose mailing list than hot@.
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Re: [HOT] How to incorporate WASH data into OSM

[Dale Kunce]

Totally agree Joseph. We just need agree on what is what and then push it
into the existing scheme.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sure, but can those existing keys / values be extended to cover the wash
> data or is it too far from the mainstream OSM data? Looking at the examples
> given by Jose I'd say that much could be brought into the existing osm
> schema without too much trouble.
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
> On 27 October 2015 at 11:50, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Joseph,
>> Right now we use a combination of pump=* and amenity=drinking_water both
>> of which don't really cover the full needs of wash data.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi Jose, Dale,
>>>
>>> On the topic of a standard tagging schema, there's the start of
>>> something on the wiki:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pump
>>>
>>> The pump key has already got some use:
>>>
>>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=pump#overview
>>>
>>> It would be great if this could be extended to suit your needs. Some
>>> things would be easily done (PUMP_TYPE, FLOW_RATE), but others such as
>>> the time it's been failed for would presumably take some extra thinking.
>>> I'm sure we could get it worked out though!
>>>
>>> Cheers, Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 October 2015 at 11:42, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jose,
>>>> I think it would be really smart if MSF, Red Cross and other NGOs could
>>>> come up with a standard tagging scheme for wash activities. There isn't
>>>> anything thus far and I can see a huge benefit to support both our Missing
>>>> Maps field work but also field work in other areas such as refugee camps.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Jose Cisneros Gallegos <
>>>> jm.cisnero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> The MSF team in Chad is carrying splendid work and so far has sent
>>>>> previously non-existing data about water points in the region of Bokoro. 
>>>>> At
>>>>> the GIS unit in MSF London we are trying to incorporate this newly 
>>>>> acquired
>>>>> data into OSM, however we are not exactly sure how to proceed. Some of the
>>>>> variables include:
>>>>>
>>>>>  - PUMP_EXISTS
>>>>>  - PUMP_TYPE
>>>>>  - OTHER_PUMP_TYPE
>>>>>  - HAND_PUMP_WORKING
>>>>>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_TIME_UNIT
>>>>>  - NOT_WORKING:HOW_LONG_NOT_WORKING
>>>>>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_LABEL
>>>>>  - WHY_NOT_WORKING
>>>>>  - FLOW_RATE
>>>>>  - BOREHOLE_PROTECTED
>>>>>  - REPAIR_NEEDED
>>>>>  - TYPE_OF_REPAIR_NEEDED
>>>>>
>>>>> Should all of the variables be included as tags? Is there a protocol
>>>>> on how to incorporate WASH and water infrastructure data?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jose
>>>>> GIS volunteer @ MSK UK / BRC
>>>>>
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Re: [HOT] How to incorporate WASH data into OSM

[Dale Kunce]

Joseph,
Right now we use a combination of pump=* and amenity=drinking_water both of
which don't really cover the full needs of wash data.

Dale

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> hi Jose, Dale,
>
> On the topic of a standard tagging schema, there's the start of something
> on the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pump
>
> The pump key has already got some use:
>
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=pump#overview
>
> It would be great if this could be extended to suit your needs. Some
> things would be easily done (PUMP_TYPE, FLOW_RATE), but others such as
> the time it's been failed for would presumably take some extra thinking.
> I'm sure we could get it worked out though!
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
>
> On 27 October 2015 at 11:42, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jose,
>> I think it would be really smart if MSF, Red Cross and other NGOs could
>> come up with a standard tagging scheme for wash activities. There isn't
>> anything thus far and I can see a huge benefit to support both our Missing
>> Maps field work but also field work in other areas such as refugee camps.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Jose Cisneros Gallegos <
>> jm.cisnero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone!
>>>
>>> The MSF team in Chad is carrying splendid work and so far has sent
>>> previously non-existing data about water points in the region of Bokoro. At
>>> the GIS unit in MSF London we are trying to incorporate this newly acquired
>>> data into OSM, however we are not exactly sure how to proceed. Some of the
>>> variables include:
>>>
>>>  - PUMP_EXISTS
>>>  - PUMP_TYPE
>>>  - OTHER_PUMP_TYPE
>>>  - HAND_PUMP_WORKING
>>>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_TIME_UNIT
>>>  - NOT_WORKING:HOW_LONG_NOT_WORKING
>>>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_LABEL
>>>  - WHY_NOT_WORKING
>>>  - FLOW_RATE
>>>  - BOREHOLE_PROTECTED
>>>  - REPAIR_NEEDED
>>>  - TYPE_OF_REPAIR_NEEDED
>>>
>>> Should all of the variables be included as tags? Is there a protocol on
>>> how to incorporate WASH and water infrastructure data?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Jose
>>> GIS volunteer @ MSK UK / BRC
>>>
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Re: [HOT] How to incorporate WASH data into OSM

[Dale Kunce]

Jose,
I think it would be really smart if MSF, Red Cross and other NGOs could
come up with a standard tagging scheme for wash activities. There isn't
anything thus far and I can see a huge benefit to support both our Missing
Maps field work but also field work in other areas such as refugee camps.

Dale

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Jose Cisneros Gallegos <
jm.cisnero...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> The MSF team in Chad is carrying splendid work and so far has sent
> previously non-existing data about water points in the region of Bokoro. At
> the GIS unit in MSF London we are trying to incorporate this newly acquired
> data into OSM, however we are not exactly sure how to proceed. Some of the
> variables include:
>
>  - PUMP_EXISTS
>  - PUMP_TYPE
>  - OTHER_PUMP_TYPE
>  - HAND_PUMP_WORKING
>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_TIME_UNIT
>  - NOT_WORKING:HOW_LONG_NOT_WORKING
>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_LABEL
>  - WHY_NOT_WORKING
>  - FLOW_RATE
>  - BOREHOLE_PROTECTED
>  - REPAIR_NEEDED
>  - TYPE_OF_REPAIR_NEEDED
>
> Should all of the variables be included as tags? Is there a protocol on
> how to incorporate WASH and water infrastructure data?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Jose
> GIS volunteer @ MSK UK / BRC
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[HOT] Missing Maps Update

[Dale Kunce]

Sharing a quick update from Missing Maps.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dkunce/diary/36137

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Re: [HOT] Mapillary plugin for JOSM

[Dale Kunce]

Nice catch. I'll fix the instructions.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 6:10 AM Jo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was looking at some tasks in Haïti which can be performed using
> Mapillary images. Over the summer a plugin was developed for JOSM during a
> GSoC project, so maybe it's possible to mention this. Now iD is mentioned,
> but that's a bit contradictory for some tasks which start out by saying
> JOSM is the better tool for that  sort of job.
>
> After installing the plugin, it's probably most convenient to use
> semi-automatic mode to figure out for which areas Mapillary pictures are
> available.
>
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Re: [HOT] OSM Geo Week

[Dale Kunce]

More updates on OSM Geo Week.

November 15th-21st is Geography Awareness Week, and last year Missing Maps
joined HOT, National Geographic, the U.S. State Department (MapGive),
USAID, the Peace Corps, and the World Bank’s GFDRR in inaugurating
OSMGeoWeek <http://osmgeoweek.org> (site will be updated soon), a global
series of events to highlight OSM and the importance of geographic
education.

OSM Geo Week presents a great opportunity for HOT community members to come
together and map to prepare communities for the next disaster. Represent
your school, community, or work during OSM Geo Week anytime between
November 15th-21st as we remotely map areas for projects by various NGO’s
working in the most vulnerable places around the world. We’ll even send you
some swag!

HOT and our Missing Maps partners would really like to support GeoWeek in a
huge way this year and get 100 mapping parties, mapathons, mappy hours and
mapternoons happening around the world to join with the rest of the
activities being planned by other groups and organizations.

Tasks are already being planned for Ecuador, Colombia, Peru, Kenya,
Myanmar, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and South Africa to name a
few, and will directly support forthcoming will directly support
forthcoming efforts of humanitarian and development partners on the ground.
If this sounds like something you would be interested in supporting, our
team can provide you with all of the materials and remote support needed to
host a successful mapathon.

If you have ever thought it might be fun to get together with co-workers,
friends, students and/or strangers to share your enthusiasm for the power
of maps and make a difference while doing it, GeoWeek is the perfect time
to do it. Events can be any size, some mapathons were as small as 10 people
and as large as a 150 people. Anyone can do it and we have all the
materials to help you host your mapathon.

Register to Host a Mapping Party <http://goo.gl/forms/bBI3pQ1IE6>

Once registered we will contact you with some follow up materials, tasks,
social media toolkit, etc.
If you have any questions please feel free to contact me
<dale.ku...@redcross.org>, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> or Drishtie
Patel <drishtie.pa...@redcross.org>.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My name is Dale Kunce and I lead the International GIS Team at the
> American Red Cross and I am also a HOT Board Member.
>
> One of the projects that the GIS team supports here at the American Red
> Cross is the Missing Maps <http://www.missingmaps.org/> project - a
> collaboration between the Humanitarian OpenStreeMap Team, American Red
> Cross, British Red Cross, and Médecins Sans Frontières.
>
> *The objective of Missing Maps is simple: to map the most vulnerable
> places in the developing world so that local and international NGOs,
> communities and individuals can use the maps and the data to better respond
> to crises affecting the areas. *The project seeks to literally and
> figuratively put people, and their communities, on the map.
>
> Missing Maps will be celebrating it’s one year anniversary on November
> 7th, 2015. To date over 3,500 volunteers have attended mapathons in one of
> 11 countries, collectively making 12 million edits to OSM and putting 7.5
> million people on the map.
>
> *November 15th is OSM Geo Week *and presents a great opportunity for HOT
> community members to come together and map to prepare communities for the
> next disaster. Represent your school, community, or work during OSM Geo
> Week anytime between November 15th-21st as we remotely map areas for
> projects by various NGO’s working in the most vulnerable places around the
> world. We’ll even send you some swag!
>
> HOT and our Missing Maps partners would really like to do GeoWeek in a
> huge way this year and get 100 mapping parties, mapathons, mappy hours and
> mapternoons happening around the world.
>
> Tasks are already being planned for Ecuador, Colombia, Peru, Kenya,
> Myanmar, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and South Africa to name a
> few, and will directly support forthcoming Missing Maps efforts on the
> ground. If this sounds like something you would be interested in
> supporting, our team can provide you with all of the materials and remote
> support needed to host a successful mapathon.
>
> If you have ever thought it might be fun to get together with co-workers,
> friends, students and/or strangers to share your enthusiasm for the power
> of maps and make a difference while doing it, GeoWeek is the perfect time
> to do it. Events can be any size, some mapathons were as small as 10 people
> and as large as a 150 people. Anyone can do it and we have all the
> materials to help you host your mapathon.
>
> Register to Host a Mapp

[HOT] OSM Geo Week

[Dale Kunce]

My name is Dale Kunce and I lead the International GIS Team at the American
Red Cross and I am also a HOT Board Member.

One of the projects that the GIS team supports here at the American Red
Cross is the Missing Maps <http://www.missingmaps.org/> project - a
collaboration between the Humanitarian OpenStreeMap Team, American Red
Cross, British Red Cross, and Médecins Sans Frontières.

*The objective of Missing Maps is simple: to map the most vulnerable places
in the developing world so that local and international NGOs, communities
and individuals can use the maps and the data to better respond to crises
affecting the areas. *The project seeks to literally and figuratively put
people, and their communities, on the map.

Missing Maps will be celebrating it’s one year anniversary on November 7th,
2015. To date over 3,500 volunteers have attended mapathons in one of 11
countries, collectively making 12 million edits to OSM and putting 7.5
million people on the map.

*November 15th is OSM Geo Week *and presents a great opportunity for HOT
community members to come together and map to prepare communities for the
next disaster. Represent your school, community, or work during OSM
Geo Week anytime
between November 15th-21st as we remotely map areas for projects by various
NGO’s working in the most vulnerable places around the world. We’ll even
send you some swag!

HOT and our Missing Maps partners would really like to do GeoWeek in a huge
way this year and get 100 mapping parties, mapathons, mappy hours and
mapternoons happening around the world.

Tasks are already being planned for Ecuador, Colombia, Peru, Kenya,
Myanmar, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and South Africa to name a
few, and will directly support forthcoming Missing Maps efforts on the
ground. If this sounds like something you would be interested in
supporting, our team can provide you with all of the materials and remote
support needed to host a successful mapathon.

If you have ever thought it might be fun to get together with co-workers,
friends, students and/or strangers to share your enthusiasm for the power
of maps and make a difference while doing it, GeoWeek is the perfect time
to do it. Events can be any size, some mapathons were as small as 10 people
and as large as a 150 people. Anyone can do it and we have all the
materials to help you host your mapathon.

Register to Host a Mapping Party <http://goo.gl/forms/bBI3pQ1IE6>

Once registered we will contact you with some follow up materials, tasks,
social media toolkit, etc.
If you have any questions please feel free to contact me
<dale.ku...@redcross.org>, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> or Drishtie
Patel <drishtie.pa...@redcross.org> the American Red Cross Missing Maps
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Re: [HOT] Tagging hut=yes

[Dale Kunce]

At the Red Cross we've used building =Hut looking at fire prevention in
Uganda in 2012. Generally these buildings were round and all tags were
field verified. We also use it in some field mapping activities once we
know the basic construction type. However, I agree with a lot that has been
said already. Using building=Hut is case specific and shouldn't apply to
all round buildings, no matter where they are.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 9:01 PM Courtney Clark <courtneycla...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I agree with Suzan and Jorieke, both in general and specifically as
> someone closely involved with the project around task 1034. While this
> issue may still be in discussion among the HOT community, I can say that
> for this project, the simple building tag is preferred instead of hut.
>
> Thank you, Chris, both for asking this question and for helping with our
> task!
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015, Suzan Reed <su...@suzanreed.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> In many countries people’s houses, churches, workshops and other
>> buildings are round, not square. Or, a building can be a combination of
>> round and square. So tagging should be building=yes. Just because a
>> building is round does not make it a “hut”, whatever that means. It’s a
>> home, church, or industrial building same as if it were square.
>>
>> Two cents from me.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Suzan
>>
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just giving my two cents.
>>
>> For me mapping a building like a hut does not signify a lot.
>> What is exactly a hut? Is it just a round building? Round buildings
>> can be made out of several materials and have several different
>> functions. Also why would a round building get another tag if a square
>> building is almost the same size, made out of the same materials and
>> has the same function?
>>
>> What significant is for me, is that it is a house, a granary or a roof
>> to hide against the sun. Also the material of what it is made of is
>> significant: roof out of straw or metal, walls out of bricks or clay
>> ... In my opinion drawing a circle and tagging it with building = yes
>> , and potentially other tags is the best.
>>
>> For me mapping buildings as huts doesn't signify a lot, on the
>> contrary, I don't know what people who are living in the mapped 'huts'
>> will think of it that their house is mapped like a 'hut'. I suppose it
>> depends on how 'huts' are perceived in every culture. So yes also for
>> this reason I prefer mapping: building=yes.
>>
>> Like I said, just my two cents :-)
>>
>> Best greetings,
>>
>> Jorieke
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-09-29 11:55 GMT, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>:
>> > The HOT convention seems to be tag them building=yes.  OSM and HOT are
>> > slightly different in OSM it is acceptable to tag a node rather than the
>> > HOT convention circle.  Because HOT has a lot of very new mappers and
>> their
>> > work is validated ie often corrected I think it is important to clarify
>> > this.
>> >
>> > Also the training material needs to be considered, having one answer in
>> one
>> > place and having the training material say something else would be
>> awkward.
>> >
>> > Cheerio John
>> >
>> > On 28 September 2015 at 22:29, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Chris,
>> >> I would use the more widely used tag building=hut.
>> >>
>> >> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=hut#values
>> >>
>> >> Dale
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM, chris zontine <
>> chriszont...@icloud.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Greetings.
>> >>>
>> >>> I was involved in mapping task 1034 and a fellow mapper mentioned they
>> >>> used the tag hut=yes in place of building=yes. I looked up the use of
>> >>> key
>> >>> hut[1] and apparently it is used but in very limited circumstances.
>> >>>
>> >>> The mapper said it was used to map a circular structure so I presume
>> the
>> >>> usage was correct. Given the lack of general use what is the consensus
>> >>> on
>> >>> using this tag?
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=hut)
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris Zon

Re: [HOT] Tagging hut=yes

[Dale Kunce]

Chris,
I would use the more widely used tag building=hut.

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=hut#values

Dale

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM, chris zontine <chriszont...@icloud.com>
wrote:

> Greetings.
>
> I was involved in mapping task 1034 and a fellow mapper mentioned they
> used the tag hut=yes in place of building=yes. I looked up the use of key
> hut[1] and apparently it is used but in very limited circumstances.
>
> The mapper said it was used to map a circular structure so I presume the
> usage was correct. Given the lack of general use what is the consensus on
> using this tag?
>
> [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=hut)
>
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Re: [HOT] [info-hotosm] World Bank project - Seismic Risk in Kyrgyz Republic - Create OSM mapping task

[Dale Kunce]

Hey all. Vivien on this list from the world Bank would be the best one to
follow up with yannis. The world Bank has a very long history with OSM and
can support this project I'm sure.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015, 4:19 PM Blake Girardot 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just letting everyone know I will follow up with Yannis to see how we
> can best help him.
>
> cheers,
> Blake
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Yannis Fourniadis
>  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am working for Arup, an international engineering consultancy based in
> > London. As Arup, we have been active participants to OpenStreeMap (OSM),
> > particularly as regards the Missing Maps Project. Employees from Arup
> > offices in the UK and the USA have contributed significant time to map
> parts
> > of South Kivu in the Congo.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am writing to enquire on the feasibility of initiating a mapping task
> > through OSM Tasking Manager (http://tasks.hotosm.org/) for the mapping
> of
> > buildings and infrastructure (roads, railways) in the Kyrgyz Republic.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Kyrgyz Republic is located in a region of high seismic hazard. In
> > addition, the typical buildings in the region are susceptible to damage
> from
> > seismic hazards (e.g. earthquake ground shaking). The population in the
> > region is therefore exposed to the combination of high seismic hazards
> and
> > vulnerable building stock. The country is therefore considered to be a
> > region of high seismic risk.
> >
> >
> >
> > The World Bank is supporting a project whereby a nationwide seismic risk
> > assessment study will be undertaken. A team led by Arup, and including
> the
> > Bishkek-based Central Asian Institute of Applied Geosciences (CAIAG), has
> > been appointed by the World Bank to carry out consultancy services in
> > relation to seismic hazard and risk for the Kyrgyz Republic.
> >
> >
> >
> > Together with science and engineering students from Bishkek University,
> we
> > will undertake community mapping of exposure data (buildings and
> > infrastructure) as part of this project, on 8-9 October 2015. Speaking to
> > Pete Masters (Missing Maps Project Coordinator for Doctors Without
> Borders
> > UK), he suggested I contact you to help us setup an OSM mapping task,
> > through which our local partners could undertake the community mapping.
> >
> >
> >
> > Could you please advise whether you are able and willing to create an OSM
> > task for us to use? I would be happy to liaise further in terms of
> > developing the task (i.e. features to be mapped, commonly used tags
> etc.).
> >
> >
> >
> > Many thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Yannis
> >
> >
> >
> > Yannis Fourniadis
> >
> > Senior Engineering Geologist
> >
> > PhD  DIC  CGeol
> >
> >
> >
> > Arup
> >
> > 13 Fitzroy Street  London  W1T 4BQ  United Kingdom
> >
> > d: +44 20 7755 4310
> >
> > www.arup.com
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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> > systems are scanned for acceptability of content and viruses
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Re: [HOT] Validation

[Dale Kunce]

I like the start mapping/stop mapping names. I always thought unlock was a
bit weird.

@susan since the TM is a project in github feel free to file an issue on
the repo and take a shot at fixing the labels in the code.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Jarmo Kivekäs jarmo.kive...@guttula.com
wrote:

 John,

 The tooltips do not require java, but do require javascript. This should
 not be an issue, though, since the tasking manager UI won't work in the
 first place if the browser is not executing javascript.

 -- Jarmo

 On 30.08.2015 19:04, john whelan wrote:
  Do tool tips require java or javascript?  Not everyone is comfortable
 with
  these from a security point of view.
 
  Cheerio John
 
  On 30 August 2015 at 11:43, Jarmo Kivekäs jarmo.kive...@guttula.com
 wrote:
 
  Currently there are tooltips in place that are displayed when you hover
  the cursor over the button. They give a pretty clear idea on what the
  buttons do:
 
  - Lock this task to tell other that you are currently working on it
  - Stop working on this task and unlock it. You may resume work on it
  again later.
  - Mark this task as done if you have completed all items in the
  instructions.
 
 
  I think we should settle for Start mapping and Stop mapping for the
  button labels.
 
  -- Jarmo
 
  On 30.08.2015 15:18, Martin Dittus wrote:
  A further consideration: the terms should express a sense of _why_
 we’re
  asking people to press these buttons. The technical “check in/out”
 hints at
  this, although it is likely not universally understood, and might not
  easily translate.
 
  Do we explain our coordination workflow anywhere? If we have some
  confidence that people have seen that explanation before they are asked
 to
  “start”, then button labelling will become more straightforward. There’s
  less burden on the button to explain a fundamental workflow in 2-3
 words.
 
  It could be as simple as adding a sentence above the buttons.
 
  Although 2-3 words that label the button *and* explain the process at
  the same time would of course be the most elegant option :)
 
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[HOT] Nepal EQ Thanks

[Dale Kunce]

Thought I would share a video that our response team put together showing
the work that the Red Cross was able to do in Nepal.

A huge thanks to everyone that contributed to the mapping efforts. OSM data
is at the core of the GIS work that the Red Cross does.

http://www.redcross.org/videos/Nepal-Getting-Cash-into-the-Hands-of-Survivors-in-Need
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[HOT] ARC GIS Analyst

[Dale Kunce]

Hey everyone the American Red Cross is hiring for a GIS Analyst to support
our programs in Haiti and in Africa. We do lots of stuff that overlaps with
HOT and use OSM. I really hope to see some HOTties apply. Please do so soon
as we hope to hire very fast.

You must be able to work in the US (citizenship or existing visa).
Position will be based in Washington, D.C.

https://www.americanredcross.apply2jobs.com/ProfExt/index.cfm?fuseaction=mExternal.showJobRID=58038CurrentPage=1

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Re: [HOT] Collapsible tree visualisation of the OSM stack

[Dale Kunce]

Very cool. Even for someone that knows most if the stack this is helpful.
On Jul 22, 2015 4:50 PM, Tajalli Spencer tajalli_spen...@mindspring.com
wrote:

  Thank you, Christophe, very illuminating, esp. for a beginner  with HOT
 like myself.

 Tajalli

 On 7/22/15 1:21 PM, Christophe Rodier wrote:

Hello,

  I've built something that I think/hope could be useful when HOT and/or
 Missing Maps do a little intro about what OSM is during their workshops.
 It's a collapsible tree visualisation of the OpenStreetMap stack to
 present the components OSM world.

  You can find it here http://threefiftythree.com/osmtree/index.html:
 http://threefiftythree.com/osmtree/index.html
 and the code is on GiHub: http://bit.ly/1dP7gcL
 http://bit.ly/1dP7gcL


 [image: Images intégrées 1]

  It's made with D3 and json. For now it's only in English, but I'm hoping
 some people will volunteer to translate it in more languages.

 Hope you'll find it useful.

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Re: [HOT] validation

[Dale Kunce]

I like the done but needs help option. This would be really helpful both
during mapathons and for big activations where we have lots of new mappers.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015, 2:05 PM john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another idea which comes to my mind: let contributors have a third choice
 for their task. Apart from Unlock and Mark task as done something which
 marks the task as done but calls for more-or-less immediate validation
 because the contributor wants feedback about the quality of his work. Such
 tiles would be displayed in a different colour and form a priority queue
 for validation.

 This reduces the pressure of a direct interaction but offers newbies a
 feeling that they will not be left alone.

 I like this idea but it would need some method of picking them up.  There
 is probably a thousand open projects at the moment too many to scan through
 for one person.  The tile needn't be completely done just a please verify
 if what I've done so far is complete.

 On a personal note your validations on 1094 were appreciated, it helped
 lighten the validation load and provided a quicker turn round on the
 validation.  Often when you look at a project the problem mappers haven't
 mapped in seven months so there isn't much point in sending them any
 feedback which is why I just scan three or four projects that way I can
 validate a tile as soon as its done.

 Cheerio John

 On 28 June 2015 at 12:13, Michael Heißmeier 
 michae...@digital-filestore.de wrote:

  Hi all,

 john whelan schrieb am 28.06.2015 um 15:00:

  The problem with email addresses are that when Nepal started up we had
 several thousand new mappers in the first few days, if even 5% contacted
 the email address the person gets swamped and burns out.


 I agree that any direct interaction outside a mapathon venue sounds
 problematic. Even if we had a dedicated irc channel then I imagine several
 people asking questions at the same time and a few validators trying to
 sort that out and answer simultaneously...
 Not to forget that if such an option were offered then such a channel
 would have to be supervised at specified hours. Would require a roster for
 validators.

  Maperthons, 1093 and 1094 I did quite a bit of validation on these,
 much of the initial mapping was done in Maperthons and the quality was
 uneven.

   While validating for projects 831, 833 and 1094 I contacted those
 contributors who made systematic errors, I did so either from the comment
 field in the tasking manager or through the OSM message system when I felt
 a longer explanation possibly with a few images was required. A fraction of
 them responded and those who did were grateful for my comments. As I
 expected, the quality of their mapping was directly correlated to their
 experience in terms of contributions to OSM in general and HOT in
 particular.

  If you put something in the task instructions then people have to read
 them and there seems to be a tendency to just map first and read the
 instructions afterwards.  In African villages highway=pedestrian isn't on
 the list of highways for Africa in the wiki.  Once you nudge them once or
 twice there is far less clean up to do when validating so ideally a tool
 that showed any new mapper who has mapped would be very nice but it isn't
 going to happen overnight.  More validators would be nice but they need to
 be tactful, have read the instructions and also have some knowledge and
 experience.  I recall one of my tiles was bruskly invalidated because I
 hadn't mapped something that was not required in the instructions.

   People might not be reading instructions but they will have to read
 the contribute tab. Maybe something like a clearly visible message please
 read the instructions before you start - if in doubt ask on the mailing
 list could help here.

 Another idea which comes to my mind: let contributors have a third choice
 for their task. Apart from Unlock and Mark task as done something which
 marks the task as done but calls for more-or-less immediate validation
 because the contributor wants feedback about the quality of his work. Such
 tiles would be displayed in a different colour and form a priority queue
 for validation.

 This reduces the pressure of a direct interaction but offers newbies a
 feeling that they will not be left alone.

 Regards

 Michael


 On 28 June 2015 at 07:35, Dale Kunce dale.ku...@gmail.com wrote:

 John and Susan I love this idea. The Missing Maps projects are generally
 really good for new mappers. We could set up a couple of tasks outside a
 mapathon just for this purpose.

 Would you once a list of people you can contact in the task
 instructions. These folks will also be the ones responsible for being the
 validates and Mentors

  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015, 9:21 PM Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com wrote:

 John mentors me, and it's been extremely valuable to have him gently
 mentioning problems.

 Having a list of projects for new people where they can get some

Re: [HOT] Questions regarding metrics from taskprojects, tasks and volunteers.

[Dale Kunce]

Milo,
Can you please share with me your contacts at the Dutch Red Cross. I work
for the American Red Cross and am with the British Red Cross and MSF
leading the Missing Map efforts. I would love to walk them through how we
view this stuff from a preparedness and resilience perspective.

Thanks so much for hosting your event and hope you have many more in the
future.

Dale



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wrote:

 Andrew, Martin and John,

 Thank you all for the responses! I have aggregated your reactions and will
 communicate them with the Dutch Red Cross.

 I conclude that it is important a Relief organisation setting up mapping
 tasks is committed to interaction with the community, providing feedback
 and motivating volunteers. Statistics can be gathered in a lot of ways, but
 there is currently no defacto model and statistics of tasks are (currently)
 not directly aggregated from the openstreetmap changesets into the task
 manager.

 I think the main goal is to make relief organisations aware of the
 importance of their commitment. I also think it would be great if we could
 work out a model for statistics and implement this in the task manager,
 perhaps on some sort of statistics dashboard.

 Thanks again, I will pass the message!

 Kind regards,

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Re: [HOT] Kathmandu IDP Camps TM1008 - Validation process

[Dale Kunce]

Nama, do you think you could get them setup with a simple ODK form so we
could encode the data a little faster.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:10 PM Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Thanks, a good idea Nama.
 regard

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 truth IDPs in Kathmandu. I will see if they can help.
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 Could experimented contributors go rapidly and validate tasks to assure
 the quality of this data before the info is sent out?
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008

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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Dale Kunce]

Got it on the tablet and will be going on others in the coming days. We are
deploying a bunch of folks.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 5:39 PM Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Thanks Milo. We will update the wiki page
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake

 once ready.


 Pierre

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 No need to. It is a community effort and all I can think about are the
 poor souls in Nepal.

 I set up the batch process;
 http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf will now be
 regenerated every 30 minutes too.

 Good luck to all the boots on the ground!

 2015-04-26 23:11 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com:


 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Nice work Milo.  If HOT had an award for doing good work, you would be
 a candidate to receive it.  :)

 - -AndrewBuck


 On 04/26/2015 03:54 PM, Milo van der Linden wrote:
  The file is available at
  http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf
 
  The OBF was generated by Frederik, which I downloaded and used to
  create the obf.
 
  Thanks Frederik!
 

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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Dale Kunce]

Super awesome, downloading now. I love you guys.


On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 4:54 PM Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net
wrote:

 The file is available at
 http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf

 The OBF was generated by Frederik, which I downloaded and used to create
 the obf.

 Thanks Frederik!

 2015-04-26 22:48 GMT+02:00 Dale Kunce dale.ku...@gmail.com:

 Milo, we have another 30 minutes.

 Thanks again for your help.

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Great, cheers Milo


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 Just to make sure: I set up a download called nepal2 at
 http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/ this is YESTERDAYS map

 The one I am creating will be available within approx. 10 minutes. This
 is a special handmade with the latest data.

 I suggest you pick up mepal2 tomorrow as it will be generated daily. If
 that update freq. is convenient, that will do, starting with tomorrow. Keep
 you posted.

 2015-04-26 21:24 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net:

 80% ready. ETA: 22:00 Europe/Amsterdam (little more then 30 minutes from
 now)

 2015-04-26 21:05 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com:

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 I am not with the Red Cross, I am just a volunteer from HOT.  I am
 passing along the request on behalf of Dale, who is our contact at the
 American Red Cross.  We have contacts with other countries RC as well,
 but this request comes from ARC.

 - -AndrewBuck


 On 04/26/2015 01:58 PM, Wm Snyder wrote:
 
 
  Andrew,
 
  Which Red Cross are you with and where are departing from?
 
  It looks like TI Airport is up as of now and on schedule so I
  would imagine that updates should be available there. Well maybe...
  Only TIA does not have free wifi and it is not to be an airport
  with technology.
 
  So i agree to be prepared, get the map before departing and update
  if available.
 
  Note that I have not had contact with a local reporter in the last
  two hours when another shock wave hit her. ---
 
  WILLIAM SNYDER
 
  On 26.4.2015 2:34 pm, Andrew Buck wrote:
 
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
 
  I mentioned this to Dale. If it is possible we may update them
  when they land, but that may not be possible, and the users
  themselves might not know how, or have time. So it is preferable
  to load them before they leave, even if they will just get
  updated when they land.
 
  - -AndrewBuck
 
  On 04/26/2015 01:31 PM, Wm Snyder wrote: Andrew, How long till
  they arrive? If possible, update the map when they arrive. These
  maps are getting more detailed every hour. We try to have links
  to the most current feeds and contacts at FEMAC.INFO
 http://femac.info/ , butnot in
  OsmAnd data format. I read that you cold use google Docs? Maybe
  we should add that to our server. --- WILLIAM SNYDER FEMAC.INFO
 http://femac.info/
  On 26.4.2015 2:04 pm, Andrew Buck wrote: Hey everyone, We just
  got an urgent request from Red Cross. They have people getting on
  planes in 3 hours to leave for Nepal, and they want to upload up
  to date OSMand maps onto their phones before they leave. We need
  someone to export the current OSM data and convert it to OSMand
  format and either post it online or email it to Dale as quickly
  as possible. Please respond to this email on the list if you plan
  to do this so others know it is being worked on. Again, this
  request is very urgent: need this data in 3 hours or less.
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Dale Kunce]

Sorry just getting back to email. Thanks so much for the help Milo. At this
point we need all of Nepal. We should be able to narrow that focus in the
next couple of days.

+1 Andrew, this is one of many reasons why I love HOT.

Dale

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:27 PM Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net
wrote:

 80% ready. ETA: 22:00 Europe/Amsterdam (little more then 30 minutes from
 now)

 2015-04-26 21:05 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com:

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 I am not with the Red Cross, I am just a volunteer from HOT.  I am
 passing along the request on behalf of Dale, who is our contact at the
 American Red Cross.  We have contacts with other countries RC as well,
 but this request comes from ARC.

 - -AndrewBuck


 On 04/26/2015 01:58 PM, Wm Snyder wrote:
 
 
  Andrew,
 
  Which Red Cross are you with and where are departing from?
 
  It looks like TI Airport is up as of now and on schedule so I
  would imagine that updates should be available there. Well maybe...
  Only TIA does not have free wifi and it is not to be an airport
  with technology.
 
  So i agree to be prepared, get the map before departing and update
  if available.
 
  Note that I have not had contact with a local reporter in the last
  two hours when another shock wave hit her. ---
 
  WILLIAM SNYDER
 
  On 26.4.2015 2:34 pm, Andrew Buck wrote:
 
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
 
  I mentioned this to Dale. If it is possible we may update them
  when they land, but that may not be possible, and the users
  themselves might not know how, or have time. So it is preferable
  to load them before they leave, even if they will just get
  updated when they land.
 
  - -AndrewBuck
 
  On 04/26/2015 01:31 PM, Wm Snyder wrote: Andrew, How long till
  they arrive? If possible, update the map when they arrive. These
  maps are getting more detailed every hour. We try to have links
  to the most current feeds and contacts at FEMAC.INFO , butnot in
  OsmAnd data format. I read that you cold use google Docs? Maybe
  we should add that to our server. --- WILLIAM SNYDER FEMAC.INFO
  On 26.4.2015 2:04 pm, Andrew Buck wrote: Hey everyone, We just
  got an urgent request from Red Cross. They have people getting on
  planes in 3 hours to leave for Nepal, and they want to upload up
  to date OSMand maps onto their phones before they leave. We need
  someone to export the current OSM data and convert it to OSMand
  format and either post it online or email it to Dale as quickly
  as possible. Please respond to this email on the list if you plan
  to do this so others know it is being worked on. Again, this
  request is very urgent: need this data in 3 hours or less.
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Dale Kunce]

Please ping me as soon as the file is ready.


On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:49 PM Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Yes this is crisis management. We have to play safe even if some
 redundancy.


 Pierre

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  *De :* Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com
 *À :* Wm Snyder wsny...@femac.us
 *Cc :* HOT hot@openstreetmap.org
 *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 26 avril 2015 14h34
 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

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 I mentioned this to Dale.  If it is possible we may update them when
 they land, but that may not be possible, and the users themselves
 might not know how, or have time.  So it is preferable to load them
 before they leave, even if they will just get updated when they land.

 - -AndrewBuck



 On 04/26/2015 01:31 PM, Wm Snyder wrote:
 
 
  Andrew,
 
  How long till they arrive?
 
  If possible, update the map when they arrive.
 
  These maps are getting more detailed every hour.
 
  We try to have links to the most current feeds and contacts at
  FEMAC.INFO , butnot in OsmAnd data format.
 
  I read that you cold use google Docs?
 
  Maybe we should add that to our server.
 
  ---
 
  WILLIAM SNYDER FEMAC.INFO
 
  On 26.4.2015 2:04 pm, Andrew Buck wrote:
 
  Hey everyone,
 
  We just got an urgent request from Red Cross. They have people
  getting on planes in 3 hours to leave for Nepal, and they want to
  upload up to date OSMand maps onto their phones before they leave.
 
  We need someone to export the current OSM data and convert it to
  OSMand format and either post it online or email it to Dale as
  quickly as possible.
 
  Please respond to this email on the list if you plan to do this so
   others know it is being worked on.
 
  Again, this request is very urgent: need this data in 3 hours or
  less.
 
  -AndrewBuck
 
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Re: [HOT] Canaan drone imagery not loading

[Dale Kunce]

Fred, we have had multiple failures of the OSM Haiti drone imagery at
several events, leading to the problems you showed in an earlier email. We
are aware of the issues but have been unable to solve it due to the poor
performance of the tile server. Would it be possible to post the mosaic
some where that we can rehost on a more reliable server?

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015, 4:28 PM Eric Brelsford ebrelsf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Frederic.

 As for the duplicate buildings, a number of participants in the event I
 was leading found those also. We decided not to map in the area since the
 imagery was (is) down, so I don't believe they are a result of my event.

 eric

 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Frederic Moine frmo...@gmail.com wrote:

  In the same time we are looking to the server,

 Could the leader of the mapping party and the coordinator of this task
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/870  can make a control quality of the
 data before sending it on the server.

 And contact directly some OSM contributors.

 Since the beginning of this Hot task,  a lot of mistake has been made,

 Duplication of building
 http://osm.org/go/YeTIXLdXI--

 Overlap of road ( sometime 4 roads has been digitized)
 http://osm.org/go/YeTC7fbA--

 And so one.

 OSM Haiti has started to clean some data and contact some mappers.

 But the best if you are making some mapping party is to check the quality
 of the data before sending in it.

 Apparently a lot of NGO will come in this area in a near future, so if we
 can paid attention of the quality of data as is part of an activation.

 And again if somebody can help OSM Haiti to get the latest imagery over
 this area ( as since 2014 the area has change a lot).
 it will be better to start with the latest imagery.

 All the best FredM

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Re: [HOT] Canaan Haiti Mapping

[Dale Kunce]

Fred, I can't wait for the imagery. I would love to see the imagery and
think of ways to incorporate it into our project in Canaan.

The majority of the help that we need at this moment is completing the
Canaan tracing task. We will begin our field activities in soon and really
need to finish the task.

Any and all help is appreciated.

http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/870



On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:42 AM Frederic Moine frmo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear dale,

 During our last UAV mission with OSM Haiti we covered a small part of
 canaan with a normal caméra and a Near Infra Red Camera.

 We are making the post traitment and will publish it when it will be
 ready (with Jean Guilhem).

 However we will need to cover more area. Our last mission was to test
 NIR camera for hydro model and risk reduction project (OSM Haiti is
 taking the lead).

 Let us know if you need more help from the OSM community on your project.

 All the best FredM

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[HOT] Missing Maps Field Mapping Help

[Dale Kunce]

American Red Cross and Missing Maps need your help.

Do to some staff deployments to support the global Red Cross in Vanuatu,
American Red Cross is in urgent need of a volunteer to help with training
and field mapping in Tanzania. We already have all of the materials and
great lead trainer from American Red Cross GIS team but we need a second
trainer.

What We Need:
 - Two week commitment starting April 10
 - Experience with OpenStreetMap
 - Experience with JOSM and/or iD
 - Experience with Field Papers
 - Previous field experience within a humanitarian context, especially
Africa, a plus

What You Will Do:
Train Tanzanian Red Cross staff and volunteers on
 - OSM data model
 - Using Field Papers to collect OSM data
 - Entering Data in JOSM and/or iD
 - Deploy and test OpenMapKit for use throughout the mapping
 - Help build a local OSM community

Why You Should Do It:
 - Learn how to use OpenMapKit
 - Gain field mapping experience in a humanitarian context
 - Help out Missing Maps and support vulnerable people
 - ARC will pay for all field expenses and travel within our expense rules

Apply:
Send and email to me, dale.ku...@redcross.org, with your CV/Resume and
answer the following questions.
- Why you want to volunteer?
- Description of your OSM/HOT experience
- Statement about your ability to obtain a visa for Tanzania.

Brief Program Description:
The American Red Cross and Tanzanian Red Cross are beginning long term
disaster risk reduction programming in rural Ushirombo, Tanzania. The Red
Cross hopes to capture GIS data using OSM and needs more detailed basemap
data (roads, land features, rivers) to assist in the project design phase.
The maps produced will be used to create more efficient and grounded
programs to reduce the risk or disease and environmental disaster from
affecting the communities.

Thanks
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Re: [HOT] Conflicts of Interest

[Dale Kunce]

Harry I loved your idea of putting the conflicts into a simple post that
can be updated/changed without fear of mucking up the election wiki page.
If anyone identifies other conflicts that I haven't noticed please feel
free to point them out.

As promised I've written my conflicts up.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dkunce/diary/34550

One key thing to my running for the Board is that American Red Cross is ok
with me serving on the HOT board given that I don't participate in any
financial discussions with HOT that are not already in place such as
Missing Maps.



On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:01 PM Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Kate - you're probably correct, we are using the person you referred us
 to, so there should be no surprises there.

 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Kate Chapman kate.chap...@hotosm.org
 wrote:

 Hi Martijn,

 HOT has a conflict of interest policy prepared by I believe the same
 legal expert. It was required to apply for 501(c)(3) status and signed by
 the board at the time.

 On the road so can't look it up at the moment.

 Kate
 On Mar 12, 2015 12:37 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 The OSM US board has just agreed on a COI policy that was prepared by a
 legal expert. I can see if I can get you a copy if that would help?

 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk
 wrote:

  I believe conflicts should be handled in the follow 2 basic ways.
 
  1. Potential conflicts should be talked about and acknowledged well
  before any actual conflicts arise.
  2. Board members should completely recuse themselves from any
  conversation. They should not listen to or be a part of the
 conversation
  during any activities where a conflict exist.
 

 Yep. Those are the rules. It's quite difficult to follow if the topic
 about which you have a conflict of interest, is something coming up a lot
 in board discussions. So in your case Dale, if the board were needing to
 discuss ARC a lot, then you might have to recuse yourself a lot. That's a
 bit awkward but not impossible.

 We found it very difficult in the past having HOT paid staff members on
 the board, particularly as they didn't always seem to understand and accept
 these rules. I guess it was understandable that they wanted to take
 strategic decisions about the projects and parts of the organisation which
 most effected them and their (HOT staff) work.

 Can be tricky.


  As such I'll be posting my conflicts to the Board Election Wiki
  and encourage others to do the same.


 I called mine a Declaration of interests and linked it off my user
 page rather than off the elections wiki (but that's partly because, I was
 *on* the board when I wrote it. Also it serves just as well as a
 declaration for anyone looking at me as a OSMF CWG member)


 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Harry_Wood/Declaration_of_Interests

 Maybe that's useful as a template. Direct financial interests (who pays
 you) is the most important thing for people to be aware of, but I tried to
 think of other affiliations I have which might conflict. I also noted when
 it was last updated, since this information can obviously go out of date.

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[HOT] Conflicts of Interest

[Dale Kunce]

Several members have asked me questions about how I would handle potential
conflicts if elected to the HOT Board.

First, I want to talk about the value of partnerships and why HOT should
pursue more deeply integrated partnerships. My work at the American Red
Cross overlaps a lot with HOT, this is a good thing. As HOT has grown it
has engaged with more and more with larger partners. Kate and others have
done a great job expanding those partnerships to get more funding to expand
HOT's work around the world.

Through partnerships the American Red Cross and Medicine Sans Frontiers,
HOT co-founded the Missing Maps initiative. Until Missing Maps HOT lacked a
way to truly engage partners that are interested in being more than
consumers of HOTs work. Missing Maps provides a great way for HOT to
leverage the size and skill sets of partners to further its own mission.
Working with partners HOT expanded programming in Indonesia, Dar es Salaam
and others. These expanded programs helped to bring together funding for
technology projects such as the original Tasking Manager, Tasking Manager
v2, HOT exports, InaSafe, and the soon to be released OpenMapKit.

As representatives from partners such as myself seek to become more engaged
in HOT will of course have some potential conflicts. These conflicts are
natural and are not something that should preclude any employee of a HOT
partner from running or serving on the board. This type of cross
pollination is healthy not only for HOT as a whole but it provides great
opportunities for skilled partner representatives to give time and skills
in areas needed by HOT such as technology project management, fundraising,
governance, networking, and visioning. These skills and relationships are
desperately needed by HOT as it seeks to secure long term non-project
funding and become more sustainable.

I believe conflicts should be handled in the follow 2 basic ways.

1. Potential conflicts should be talked about and acknowledged well before
any actual conflicts arise.
2. Board members should completely recuse themselves from any conversation.
They should not listen to or be a part of the conversation during any
activities where a conflict exist.

In following with the basic conflict rules above I think it should be every
board candidate to explain any potential conflicts within their candidate
statement. As such I'll be posting my conflicts the the Board Election Wiki
and encourage others to do the same.

I also encourage those candidates that haven't yet created a candidate
statement of manifesto to do so now. Explain why you are running for the
HOT board. Why you are passionate about HOT and what your priorities will
be in the next year. This is important for voting members and for other
board candidates so that we can have a frank, honest, and robust discussion
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Re: [HOT] Canaan Haiti Mapping

[Dale Kunce]

Fred,
Thanks for the update on your work and for your offer for more mapathons.
These will be needed for sure as we intensify our efforts in Canaan.

The Red Cross is very committed to ensuring strong connections with the
community. That part of the project is being handled by other Haitian and
American Red Cross folks based in Port-au-Prince. We do want to engage the
local mappers and are working to get some materials translated to better
work involve the local OSM community.

Any further advice or guidance you or anyone else has from OSM-Haiti is
extremely welcome. We will begin out field mapping work later this spring
and will have very large community volunteer presence.

Thanks
Dale

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 3:21 PM FredM frmo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Dale, very good initiative to have a massive use of Mapillary.

 For OSM Haiti side, We just finished processing of the drones images (
 February 2015 including infrared). We still have a lot of cleaning to do,
 because we want to extract the land cover and height of the building.

 Concerning Canaan:
 This is an informal area it has been built without the help of NGOs.
 This is a complex organization and it is important to be careful and
 involve
 as much as possible the people not only the leader ( what we can do on our
 side is to organize  mapping ,party/participatory gis, training, if by any
 chance somebody has some budget,…)

 OSM haiti made some training in 2014 for  the red cross in Cap Haitien,

 Mappng party in Cannan :

  OSM Haiti has done some work with communities (16 meeting) to identify
 blocks over onaville / Canaan. It is important to be able to support the
 process and let the community organizing and thing about the use of this
 space with of course local authority.

 Remote mapping: Let's see if we can organize a mapping party in Paris, to
 support your initiative.

 We will need to use the same image or reference, to be sure we have the
 same
 spatial reference during digitizing.

 All the best FredM




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Re: [HOT] HOT Board and Chair Elections

[Dale Kunce]

HOT,
When I sat down and starting reading through my email tonight I came across
Joseph's great post about announcing the desire to serve on the HOT board.
I quickly sat down and starting writing my first every OSM diary entry as
my HOT board statement. I humbly ask for your nomination to the board.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dkunce/diary/34502

My HOT journey and story really starts with the State of the Map US
conference a few years ago. I had just started working for the American Red
Cross and was asked to talk about how and why we use OpenStreetMap. At the
conference, I had the pleasure of meeting Mikel, Schuyler, Russ, and many
other passionate HOT folks. Six months later, I was fully embedded and
accepted into HOT, working very closely with Andrew Buck and Pierre Beland
to provide the NGO perspective for the Typhoon Haiyan activation. In the
weeks and months to follow, I learned of the tremendous passion and
dedication that all HOT people have for the organization, the work, and the
continued success of HOT.

It is with that same passion that I ask for your nomination to the HOT
Board. HOT is still at a pivotal time in its growth. We haven't fully put
the events the past few board elections behind us. The old debates of what
a 'HOT project' is versus what is HOT, still go on. HOT must grow out of
this current adolescent phase if it is to become truly successful and
sustainable. HOT is and will always be a mapping NGO. However, to get HOT
to where it needs to be, it needs to be about more than skilled mappers and
dedicated activators. HOT needs to improves its fundraising,
administration, and visioning to become a sustainable organization. I know
that there has been some resistance to HOT growing as an organization and
that there are those members that see HOT the NGO as being different from
the HOT community. I understand the resistance but disagree, HOT the NGO
and HOT the community should be the same thing for a variety of reasons,
most importantly fundraising.

In my day-to-day professional life as the GIS lead for the American Red
Cross, I am constantly talking, bragging, and honing the work that HOT
does. When the American Red Cross asked other organizations to come
together to create the Missing Maps http://missingmaps.org/ project, we
did so because of how much we like and support HOT. Missing Maps is a huge
accomplishment for HOT. It allows HOT to engage with new stakeholders,
local communities, and donors to accomplish HOT's work. I've worked hard
since joining the non-profit sector to lend my hand at strengthening HOT:
founding Missing Maps, building technology to enable our work (Tasking
Manager 2, OpenMapKit, OSM-Meta-API), fundraising for various projects,
helping host and plan the upcoming HOT Summit, and generally working behind
the scenes in the humanitarian sector to lead the adoption and use of OSM
by humanitarian organizations.

My vision for HOT is a continuation and evolution of its current path. I
want HOT to have a solid financial foundation that supports both technology
and field projects, HOT helps guide other humanitarian organizations to
adopt and use OSM, and the old animosities are replaced with a renewed
passion and dedication to help HOT grow.

The key areas that I will focus on if elected to the board include:

   - *Governance*: Build upon the momentum created by existing HOT staff
   and working groups to manage and maintain the governance structures within
   HOT.
   - *Overhaul Board Terms of Reference*: The existing HOT Board is
   required to oversee the daily management of HOT and does not have enough
   time to focus on creating and implementing a longer term vision. I will
   work to empower HOT staff to take a more active part in the daily
   decision-making process in line with how other NGOs function.
   - *Partnerships*: It is imperative that HOT build better partnerships
   *before* disasters. One of the main reasons the American Red Cross uses
   OpenStreetMap is due to the relationship built prior to, rather than
   during, a disaster. Pre-established relationships can strengthen the
   broader applications of HOT to other actors. I will develop and strengthen
   partnerships with humanitarian relief organizations so that OSM and HOT are
   embedded into their business operations.
   - *Fundraising*: HOT needs to create an endowment to support long term
   projects, technical infrastructure, and increased staff. Many organizations
   depend on HOT during times of crisis and even during normal operations.

During my time at the American Red Cross I've had the privilege of working
directly with a number of the members. I've also had the privilege of
seeing the HOT's work first hand being used to alleviate suffering after
Typhoon Haiyan and heard stories and reports from many humanitarians that
depend on HOT to do their work for the West Africa Ebola outbreak and from
many other activations. I want to see that HOT keeps being able to make
others 

Re: [HOT] Canaan Haiti Mapping

[Dale Kunce]

Thanks for updating the links Emir and Blake. I'm still not used to the
link structure of the new Task Manager.

The sky was very very blue during our time mapping. In the next few weeks
additional roads and paths will be completed and uploaded for Mapillary. We
plan to revisit, using mapillary, a large portion of Canaan every three
months or so and continue to improve the map.


On Thu Feb 19 2015 at 2:46:37 AM Rod Bera r...@goarem.org wrote:

  On 19/02/15 03:22, Dale Kunce wrote:

 using Mapillary
 http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/bbox/18.62802725546566/18.6841385903599/-72.32025146484375/-72.1966552734375

 apprently this is a blue sky project... ;-)

 The next step is to capture what's on the ground.

 More seriously, this is an excellent initiative we should consistently
 replicate so as to better know what we are mapping (e.g. the hut
 discussion).


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Re: [HOT] What is a hot activation?

[Dale Kunce]

Accidentally only replied to Fred. Resending with everyone copied in.

As someone that uses HOT resources a variety of ways for American Red Cross
and Missing Maps I have a few opinions on your questions. First I really
love the work done by you and others in Gaza as it really showed the growth
of HOT and a reflection of lesson's learned from theHaiyan OSM Assessment
http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment.

…

*When we know that is an Hot activiation. For gaza it wasn’t an HOT
activation,  as we didn’t decide it.*

Anytime you use the HOT Tasking Manager to organize volunteers and work the
project becomes a HOT project. Even if in the situation of Gaza or any
number of ARC or MSF or Missing Maps projects the requesting NGO supplies
the majority of the volunteers through mapathons or social media calls the
volunteers themselves are still HOT volunteers. In my opinion activations
are different in that they have a HOT lead, typically an activation lead,
shepherding the process as is the case for Ebola or Malawi floods or
similar type disasters. The idea that HOT 'activates' is still one of the
weirdest things about HOT. HOT has truly only 'activated' a few times over
the past five years. The vast majority of the work, from my perspective, is
similar to Gaza or the DRC or Dhaka.
…

*It was just an initiative as an OSM and HOT members done in a short period
of time.*

Whether the effort was short or long doesn't change the fact that the Gaza
effort used the Tasking Manager to marshall volunteers and organize the
work.
…

*Who can use this tasking manager : NGO, state, local OSM group, etc*

The TM has policies in place for establishing new tasks and folks capable
of creating tasks. I think the current system works pretty well of having
seasoned HOT folks guide and mentor newer TM folks like myself until we
gain enough experience to create our own tasks.
…

*Of course a real HOT activation can improve the
communication/mobilization. , but according to the news at that time we
just digitized as fast as we could. *

I've learned a very important lesson during my time at ARC; communication
about what you are doing and how you are doing it is almost as important as
the work. Communicating and bragging like Mikel was doing about the Gaza
mapping opens more doors, forms new partnerships, and validates the work
that so many of us do.

I suggest that when projects are complete that the creator of the project
should share the outcomes and their experience with the project/activation
through blog post on hotosm.org much like Pierre and Andrew do for
activations. This allows the community to be informed and be aware of
others activities.
…

*So how many big activation could we handle at the same time?*
Great question. As HOT has gotten better at its work and NGOs adopt it more
into our business process and workflows the frequency and expectations we
put on HOT are only going to grow. It is really important that HOT grow
with those expectations. This is one of the reasons you saw many
organizations come together to improve the tasking manager. Its also a
reason MSF and the Red Cross founded Missing Maps. It allows us to give
back and strengthen HOT as a true partner.

On Thu Feb 19 2015 at 1:17:45 PM Mikel Maron mikel.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 There was some work a while back to put more definition around the stages
 of Activation, and differentiate from HOT related activities or
 projects. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation. There's
 lots done in the HOT community which doesn't go through the activation
 process, including the original Gaza effort back in 2009, which led to the
 formalizing of HOT.

 At the Board face to face in June, we made a priority to define a HOT
 project, broadly encompassing all kinds of activities taking place in the
 HOT community, even if not an official project or activation.

 In any case, I think there's more work to be done to make this clear and
 useful for us. I think the Activators Training and HOT Summit will be a
 great time to work on these.

 -Mikel


 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


   On Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:18 PM, Blake Girardot 
 bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hi Fred,

 My responses are in line below.

 On 2/18/2015 10:25 AM, Frederic Moine wrote:
  What is ahot activation?
 
  I saw this slide presentation 16 17 on Gaza.
  I have activate this task this summer during my holiday as an OSM
  contributor. I posted the announcement on OSM lists include HOT.
  I was in direct contact with the shelter cluster responsible for the
  Middle east region, which has requested assistance for the pre buildings.
 
  Next time it could be somebody from an NGO, cluster or other who make a
  taks on the tasking manager.
  At the end it was not a request from UNOSAT.
 
  I contacted UNOSAT to know what image they were using (the July 6,
  2014). I have conducted a damage assessment with them in 2008 over gaza
 area
  We have digitized 

[HOT] Canaan Haiti Mapping

[Dale Kunce]

Dear HOT,

We need volunteers to work on an exciting new Red Cross community mapping
and mobilization project in Canaan, Haiti.

The American Red Cross is supporting the Haitian Red Cross to expand their
community based disaster response and health efforts into new communities
in the northern metropolitan Port au Prince area. The communities outlined
are at significant exposure to seasonal and acute flooding risks and they
lack access to basic health services, disaster preparedness plans and
disaster response plans. Haitian Red Cross plans to expand their local
volunteer network into these communities in 2015; they will train community
members in first aid, emergency response and evacuation, as well as link
them to healthcare services. Updated maps will support Haitian Red Cross to
identify safe emergency shelter sites as well as to prepare emergency
evacuations routes that reflect population centers and road network
capacity. Furthermore, updated maps will help Haitian Red Cross to identify
particularly vulnerable families and plan ways to improve access to them.

Our plan is simple, remotely map the community and then supplement work
done by remote volunteers with local knowledge and field surveys using
OpenMapKit. We have set up two task that cover the Canaan and St. Christop
areas of interest to start the work.

http://tasks.hotosm.org/870
http://tasks.hotosm.org/879

There are existing efforts through OSM to assist the people of Canaan
through great work using UAVs to provide aerial imagery and assess flood
risk. In addition, the Red Cross recently started using Mapillary
http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/bbox/18.62802725546566/18.6841385903599/-72.32025146484375/-72.1966552734375
to
improve our understanding of the area. After the remote work is completed
we will use the soon to be released OpenMapKit to conduct a full field
survey and household census of the area.

I personally encourage you to donate your skills by helping these
vulnerable communities get mapped.  We are recruiting both remote and local
volunteers to help map the community. If you are able to assist us please
contact me directly at dale.ku...@redcross.org.

Thank you,

Dale Kunce
Senior Geospatial Engineer
American Red Cross
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Re: [HOT] missing maps.org down?

[Dale Kunce]

Making a couple changes to the back in redirects to make github happier.
Should be back up shortly. Thanks for staying vigilant.

On Thu Dec 11 2014 at 11:10:56 AM Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com
wrote:

 It returns:

 404
 There isn't a GitHub Page here.

 For me as well.

 downforeveryone will show it as up because the server responds, just
 with a 404.

 blake




 On 12/11/2014 4:41 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
 
  On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Christian Ledermann
  christian.lederm...@gmail.com mailto:christian.lederm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  http://www.missingmaps.org
 
 
  It is down for me, but according to
  http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ it is up.
 
 
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Re: [HOT] Typhoon Hagupit/Ruby and Field Papers

[Dale Kunce]

To the point about license. That map was created using GADM and so the
fuzzy GADM license would apply.

On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 8:49:31 AM Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Awesome, thanks a lot Alan

 Pierre

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 Hi everyone,

 We're going to be keeping a close eye on Field Papers for the next few
 days and weeks to make sure it stays up during this activation.

 For now, if atlas generation gets stuck for a long time, or if you end up
 with black tiles on your generated atlas, just try making the atlas again.
 Usually the second try will fix things.

 Please report any bugs or crashes at
 http://github.com/stamen/fieldpapers/issues or email h...@fieldpapers.org.
 Thanks!

 I see we still have an overlay layer available in Field Papers that we
 enabled during the Yolanda/Haiyan activation. [1] Can someone knowledgable
 check that and let us know if it's still relevant/useful? We are happy to
 remove it or replace it with something better if there's a different
 overlay layer we should use:

 [1]
 http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/americanredcross.HAIYAN_Atlas_Bounds.html#12/12.2083/125.4694


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Re: [HOT] International Conference of CrisisMappers (ICCM) and HOT Casual meetup

[Dale Kunce]

I'm in.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014, 11:48 AM Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Kristen. Hope to see a few of you there. We made a reservation for
 about 10, so it would be good to know who might be joining us.
 On Nov 3, 2014 3:54 PM, Kristen Egermeier kegerme...@hotosm.org wrote:

 Good Afternoon,
 Here is the reservation for Friday for the casual meetup:
 Little Town - Union Square on Friday, November 7, 2014 at 6:30 PM for 10


- Restaurant Info:
Little Town - Union Square
https://secure.opentable.com/little-town-union-square?kc=1nw=1
118 East 15th Street
New York, NY 10003
(212) 677-630
0 %28212%29%20677-6300
- Thank you,
- Kristen Egemeier


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Re: [HOT] Activation WG: setting a Trello board

[Dale Kunce]

Sev can you make sure Robert and I are on the board.

Thanks
Dale


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 We have been talking for a long time about testing Trello; actually I use
 it ofr internal coordination for the CAR Activation for a couple of months
 with Amadou, but I created one Trello board for the AWG action points so
 that people interested can pick up a task and we can track what we do and
 have reminders with due dates:
 https://trello.com/b/ogU4Wjd6/hot-activation-wg

 Unfortunately the free version of Trello does not allow to create public
 boards, only the people that are members of a board can access to it. I
 added all the people that attended the last 3 last AWG meetings, but if
 anyone is interested to join, please raise the hand, it is really quick to
 set. Here is what it looks like:
 http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=vphwnts=8#.VANRBNatj3w

 Sincerely,

 Severin

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[HOT] Job Posting Red Cross GIS Officer

[Dale Kunce]

The American Red Cross is looking for a full-time GIS Officer to support
long-term programs and disaster response. The ideal candidate has a mix of
developer and solid print map skills, love humanitarian work, knows
OpenStreetMap, and wants to travel a little bit.

The position will be based in Washington DC and you have to be able work in
the US. We are looking for someone with 5 years of experience.

https://www.americanredcross.apply2jobs.com/ProfExt/index.cfm?fuseaction=mExternal.showJobRID=46698CurrentPage=1

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Re: [HOT] Floods in Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina

[Dale Kunce]

The American and British Red Cross teams were activated yesterday to
coordinate with our field teams and local Red Cross staff. We've also been
in touch with MapAction who deployed as part of UNDAC on Monday. It would
be nice if we could get some of the areas better mapped but beyond the
existing tasks we don't have a clear idea yet of where the greatest needs
are from our perspective.

I'll be in touch if anything changes.


Dale


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 There are starting to be requests to the Digital Humanitarian Network
 (DHN) so it would be good to start thinking about an official activation.
 Is there a plan in place yet for that scenario?

 Thanks,

 -Kate


 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 See the Map of flooded zones, May 2014 (Red NASA Lance Modis / Light red
 European Commission Copernicus)
 at
 http://floodobservatory.colorado.edu/RapidResponse/2014Bosnia4139/2014Bosnia.html


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Re: [HOT] Humanitarian Mapping

[Dale Kunce]

Tom,
The great folks over at George Washington are doing lots of stuff with both
MapGive and directly with groups such as USAID and with the American Red
Cross. We, Red Cross, are always looking to engage more students and
classes in humanitarian mapping. I would be happy to share our experience
with OpenStreetMap and HOT during the Typhoon Haiyan and Guinea Ebola
outbreak activations.

Please feel free to contact me offlist to discuss further.

Dale


On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 3:46 PM, AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.comwrote:

 Hello Tom,
 Stephen Beckett at BBC, Click [stephen.beck...@bbc.co.uk]  is putting
 together a documentary on the HOT mapping of Lubumbashi where they used
 printouts from OSM's request for emergency mapping, and may well be what
 you are looking for to show your students.
 Hope this helps
 Ralph

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 Hello. I am the GIS professor at a small school just southeast of
 Pittsburgh,PA called California University of Pennsylvania. I am fairly new
 to HOT. My students worked on MapGive as part of their lab.  How much
 Humanitarian Mapping is occurring at colleges?  I also think another way to
 expand the community would be through educational materials. For example,
 it would be great if I could find some examples of how these maps are used
 and then I could use these examples in my World Regional Geography class.
 The students would not necessarily complete any mapping but they would
 become aware of HOT.

 Just my two cents
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Re: [HOT] Interim Report: Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Damage Assessment

[Dale Kunce]

 to
 have wrong conclusions about actions taken during this crisis.

 The way the report is written, it gives the impression that imprecision in
 evaluation of assesment is due to the use of the OpenStreetMap community.
 The humanitarian community as a whole did not build before this event the
 capacity to react rapidly, deploy teams and provide detailed post-disaster
 imagery in other ways then through Satellite.

 In the context of this emergency and with the imagery provided, would
 professionnals specialized in damage assesment have scored significantly
 better? Due to the limits of such assesments in the operational context of
 this operation, analysis should be based on the capacity to identify zones
 of high damages and not focus on individual houses. To my point of view,
 the objective of that operation following the severed damages after Typhoon
 Haiyan was to give an early warning to identify zones and not individual
 houses. This would need oblique imagery.

 Thinking about a better workflow in the context of such disasters,  the
 capacity to have more flexibility and deploy rapidly teams when necessary
 to obtain either UAV imagery (drone) or aerial oblique imagery would surely
 give a different response, this either with the OpenStreetMap community or
 professionnals of damage assesment.

 We surely have a workflow to build and establish the role and limits of
 assesments done with aerial imagery in the context of such emergency
 operations.

 We should be careful to make the appropriate analysis and not demotivate
 the OpenStreetMap community who made such a huge effort for this
 activation.

 The Red Cross study points to the fact that in most cases the limitation
 in damage assesment was the imagery that seemed to show undamaged buildings
 when in reality they had sustained damage. But this is not reflected in the
 Executive summary and in  the Conclusion of the study. This study should be
 completed with a better analysis of the type of imagery necessary to make
 better asssesment studies.


 Pierre

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Dear HOT Communuity,

 The American Red Cross and the REACH Initiative are pleased to present an 
 interim
 assessment report on the validity of the building damages assessed
 through OpenStreetMap in the weeks following Typhoon Haiyan. You can find a
 print copy attached and a more interactive website version at the above
 link.

  The results were unfortunately negative and underline real limitations
 in OpenStreetMap's ability to capture these results in the present.
 Neverthless, this report identifies strong promise in the OSM model of
 crowdsourcing and highlights the investments needed to make that potential
 possible.  It's our sincere hope that funders, NGO partners and most
 especially the OpenStreetMap community will rally around these investments
 so that OSM can play an even stronger and more operationally useful role in
 future disaster responses.

  We are indebted to the US Agency for International Development's Office
 of Foreign Disaster Assistance (OFDA) for funding this assessment and look
 forward to future partnerships to improve the utility of open data and
 OpenStreetMap in particular for disaster response.

 With all the best,
 Robert Banick, Dale Kunce and Clay Westrope
 American Red Cross  REACH Initiative

   *Robert Banick* | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì 
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Re: [HOT] What are the top coding needs for the activation?

[Dale Kunce]

Simple easy to use disconnected web map that supports MBTiles, geojson, and
csv. In reality I would love to revive the long lost OSM on a stick
conversation.





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 Has anyone been tracking particular software dev needs coming out of the
 activation?

 I may try to join the crisiscamp DC on Saturday, and wonder what else we
 can have folks do besides the mapping.

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Re: [HOT] In Person Mapathons

[Dale Kunce]

The students at George Washington University are mapping everyday from
10-12pm and 8-10pm.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Iván Sánchez i...@sanchezortega.es wrote:

 El Miércoles, 13 de noviembre de 2013 18:31:06 Kate Chapman escribió:
  I'm hearing of some in person mapathons for the Philippines this
  weekend.  So far one in Zagreb and one in Tokyo. If you are organizing
  one please post to the list, I'll try to gather them together in one
  place.

 My good friend @xurxosanz is coordinating a small mapathon in Valencia
 (Spain)
 this friday. He'll be able to provide more details.


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