Re: BLDL question
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:16:53 -0500 Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Hello: The manual z/OS :DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets SC26-7408-01 in Chapter 5 BLDL :section states that When the system returns control to the problem program, :the low-order byte of :register 15 contains a return code. The low-order byte of register 0 contains a :reason code. :Can one presume that the other 3 bytes of R15 and R0 are '0' (zero)? :Yes. In my experience that's the case. Me too. I have lots of code that check for zero/non-zero in the whole word. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How to monitor CPU peaks from an exec?
I would like to get a fairly simple report in real time of an online server's CPU usage. I'm especially looking for transaction-like peaks/spikes of CPU time, percentage of CPU used on the machine, and how long these spikes last. (What RMF does basically.) Right now I have an exec to get the elapsed time and total CPU time used for the address space. This is pretty good and gives me much of what I need. I'd like to beef it up a bit if possible. It would be nice if I could get this information from a Rexx exec running in a TSO address space. If possible, could anyone give me a hint as to which control blocks to look into? The exec is easier for me because I can monitor things, like at a customer site, without having to bother their RMF guys who are usually quit busy. If not, of course I can always get the RMF data. Thanks! Lindy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HASPINDX Dynamic Allocation Error
Hi Listers, When i try to access the syslog, under SDSF I'm getting the following message ISF008I DYNAMIC ALLOCATION ERROR RC=004 EC=1708 IC=0002 DDN=ISF.HASPINDX VOL=STDPAK DSN=ISF.HASPINDX * Following steps I tried to resolve this error 1) Allocated a new HASPINDX dataset 2) Changed the DSI value to YES under ISFPRM member on SYS1.PARMLIB 3) Refreshed the SDSF address space. Still the same error, is there any clue what to do next is there a need to initialize the HASPINDX dataset how to initialize. Is the HASPINDX dynamically allocated when SYSLOG panel is accessed or howz it done. Please help on this. Thanks Mohan Vel C.A -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to monitor CPU peaks from an exec?
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IEAOPTxx options in use
According to the Initialisation and Tuning Reference, from z/OS 1.3 most IEAOPTxx options are ignored. It also says that if an option is found in IEAOPTxx that is no longer used it is just ignored. It then lists quite a long list of options that are presumably recognised and used. Is there any display or module that will show which IEAOPTxx contents have been accepted? This question arises because I am working in a z/OS 1.4 system that is being prepared for upgrade for z/OS 1.7 first part of which is to switch to z/ARCH mode. My inclination is to empty IEAOPTxx so that the z/OS 1.4 defaults, whatever they are will automatically switch to the 1.4 z/ARCH values, then to the z/OS 1.7 values. Any comments please? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
Then there was Nestle Frankfurt, who wanted both CPUs to have the same serial number. BS3000 was pulled because Fujitsu (deservedly) lost a court case. One of the settlement conditions was the withdrawal of BS3000, another was $600 million, if memory serves. At the time, I not only expected it but felt it long overdue. Served 'em right. AIM was an affront to IBM. I keep seeing this Hercules [EMAIL PROTECTED] turning up, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is. For the nthousandth time - it ain't EVER going to happen - there are so many things against it there's no time to list them. It wasn't going to happen before the IBM/PSI thing (for a number of reasons, one being the attitude of the owners) and IBM actually said so at the time: IBM has taken a business decision not to license its software on this platform. IBM chooses with whom it sleeps. And after IBM/PSI - Jeez! I wish we could save the bandwidth. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 Data Bases and Central Storage
I assume that Lizette's question has to do with DB2 V8 and defining DB2 bufferpools large enough to hold most of the data in the DBM1 above the bar private storage, so it will still be DB2. I've never met a DBA that didn't want more/bigger bufferpools. And of course everyone's heard the the best I/O is no I/O mantra. Get the DBAs to analyze the current buffer pool stats and prove that a (probably) small increase in hit rate would be worth the (potentially) large increase in storage and it's attendant potential impact on the entire complex. If they can, and it's a benefit to the business, do it. From my point of view, this functionality seems to be demanded by (and benefit to) the big end of town. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 IBMLink is UP!!!
The VM/SNA version of IBMLink was reinstated on 06/11 due to the issues that have occurred during the past week. I got an email from the SoftwareXcel Program Manager, Mark Fyffe, the other day with that information, after having lengthy email discussions with him about the web Servicelink issues that have occurred over the past months. I have been persistent in reporting each outage I have seen, as well as the many features that were available in the VM/SNA version that are still on the to-do list for the web version. There is no word from the Mark on how long the VM/SNA version will remain reinstated; only that it is as a result of the accessibility and availability issues with IBMLINK and that those issues are continuing to be investigated. I encourage all people who are interested in the continued use of the VM/SNA IBMLINK to email Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with their comments. I talked to Mark to make sure he was agreeable to accepting feedback via email. That took a little while because we kept missing each other being out of the office on alternating days. I also am new to using listserv, and my original reply apparently didn't go out to the list. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HASPINDX Dynamic Allocation Error
You error says there is NO ISF.HASPINDX on the volume STDPAK. So, have you renamed the file? Also, with a fresh HASPINDX your first user going into LOG will encounter a LONG wait while SDSF initializes this file. So do not attention out. It will eventually come back. In the SDSF Customization manual it states: In ISFPARMS, with the INDEX and INDXVOL keywords of the ISFPMAC macro or OPTIONS statement. Changing DSI only helps with the integretiy of the data set. The name and volume are controled by INDEX and INDXVOL. So if you change the name then you need to review the INDEX and INDXVOL keywords to ensure everything is correct. Also, if you have the ISFPRMxx member compiled, you need to make sure you have refreshed you storage version as well as the PARMLIB member. Sometimes refreshing juse the SDSF Address space is not enough. The following URL: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/I SF4CS50/10.8.1?SHELF=ISF4BK50DT=20050707140821 has a length of 107 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 25 characters: http://tinyurl.com/2ctp68 The tinyurl will get you to the SDSF Customization Manual for z/OS V1.7 Lizette Hi Listers, When i try to access the syslog, under SDSF I'm getting the following message ISF008I DYNAMIC ALLOCATION ERROR RC=004 EC=1708 IC=0002 DDN=ISF.HASPINDX VOL=STDPAK DSN=ISF.HASPINDX * Following steps I tried to resolve this error 1) Allocated a new HASPINDX dataset 2) Changed the DSI value to YES under ISFPRM member on SYS1.PARMLIB 3) Refreshed the SDSF address space. Still the same error, is there any clue what to do next is there a need to initialize the HASPINDX dataset how to initialize. Is the HASPINDX dynamically allocated when SYSLOG panel is accessed or howz it done. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
3270 IBMLINK
The VM/SNA version of IBMLink was reinstated on 06/11 due to the issues that have occurred during the past week. I got an email from the SoftwareXcel Program Manager, Mark Fyffe, the other day with that information, after having lengthy email discussions with him about the web Servicelink issues that have occurred over the past months. I have been persistent in reporting each outage I have seen, as well as the many features that were available in the VM/SNA version that are still on the to-do list for the web version. There is no word from the Mark on how long the VM/SNA version will remain reinstated; only that it is as a result of the accessibility and availability issues with IBMLINK and that those issues are continuing to be investigated. I encourage all people who are interested in the continued use of the VM/SNA IBMLINK to email Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with their comments. I talked to Mark to make sure he was agreeable to accepting feedback via email. That took a little while because we kept missing each other being out of the office on alternating days. I am also new to posting to a listserv, and I don't think my previous attempts were successful. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BLDL question
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Schuster Hello: The manual z/OS DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets SC26-7408-01 in Chapter 5 BLDL section states that When the system returns control to the problem program, the low-order byte of register 15 contains a return code. The low-order byte of register 0 contains a reason code. Can one presume that the other 3 bytes of R15 and R0 are '0' (zero)? Usually. I've not encountered a case where that is not true; however -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DR and JES check point question
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Andy White Im trying to find out from anyone out there who might be doing the same thing. We are planning for a disaster recovery site we control and mirror using XRC over distance. We currently have the JES2 check point for a few systems in a sysplex in an external CF, then the second check point is on DASD and in duplex mode. Its our understanding the second check point on DASD is and know its can be up to 10 writes off from the one in the CF. As a result if you are in this mode do you come up as warm or cold when it comes to JES2? We would like to come up warm so we don't loose work especially if a disaster should happen late during the batch run. Do you just come up and reconfigure using the back up check point from DASD being mirrored and just orphan the output not written to the check point? I mean if you loose a dozen or so output doesn't sound like a lot. How about the case where, among the dozen or so output lost, was the paycheck run? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BLDL question
Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] m... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Schuster Hello: The manual z/OS DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets SC26-7408-01 in Chapter 5 BLDL section states that When the system returns control to the problem program, the low-order byte of register 15 contains a return code. The low-order byte of register 0 contains a reason code. Can one presume that the other 3 bytes of R15 and R0 are '0' (zero)? Usually. I've not encountered a case where that is not true; however ... I back suggestions of others: take IBMs words literally. If they don't say what the other bytes contain, don't make assumptions. If you cannot prove they do not contain zero's that does not prove they do. If you can prove they contain zero's today, that still does not prove this will not change in the future. I remember the TTR in the SYS1.JOBQ of the JFCB that everybody knew to contain the virtual storage address of the JFCB. Until IBM changed this, referring to the original definition. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DR and JES check point question
John - That's the point how do others like this get around it. To us it makes more sense to take the check point out of the CF and have both on DASD mirrored. Then comes the performance hit on the large sysplex . We are just trying to find out what others have done Thanks Andy Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/15/2007 07:49:13 AM: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Andy White We are planning for a disaster recovery site we control and mirror using XRC over distance. We currently have the JES2 check point for a few systems in a sysplex in an external CF, then the second check point is on DASD and in duplex mode. Its our understanding the second check point on DASD is and know its can be up to 10 writes off from the one in the CF. As a result if you are in this mode do you come up as warm or cold when it comes to JES2? We would like to come up warm so we don't loose work especially if a disaster should happen late during the batch run. Do you just come up and reconfigure using the back up check point from DASD being mirrored and just orphan the output not written to the check point? I mean if you loose a dozen or so output doesn't sound like a lot. How about the case where, among the dozen or so output lost, was the paycheck run? -jc- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Hiperspace and IEFUSI
If we don't set anything in the IEFUSI exit to control Hiperspaces, does the system establish any limits on the size of a Hiperspace an application can request? -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- Victory in defeat, there is none higher. She didn't give up, Ben; she's still trying to lift that stone after it has crushed her. She's a father going down to a dull office job while cancer is painfully eating away his insides, so as to bring home one more pay check for the kids. She's a twelve-year-old girl trying to mother her baby brothers and sisters because Mama had to go to Heaven. She's a switchboard operator sticking to her job while smoke is choking her and the fire is cutting off her escape. She's all the unsung heroes who couldn't quite cut it but never quit.* Robert A. Heinlein - Stranger in a Strange Land *Referring to the Auguste Rodin sculpture, Caryatid Who Has Fallen under Her Stone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:55:43 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: There's a specific reason I focused on C and UNIX (actually Linux) development: that was the topic! :-) The topic of discussion was z/OS development until On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:58:19 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: ... However, let's be crystal clear: there's zero impediment that I can see for basement tinkerers/inventors to create wonderful products for the IBM mainframe when it's running Linux. So your statement that you are focusing on Linux development because that's the topic seems at best disingenuous to me. You did manage to sidetrack the discussion to Linux with the suggestion that someone who wants to develop z/OS software should start with Linux. That assertion was challenged by Steve. To continue, On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:55:43 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: 2. Go through university resources if you're in a position to do that. Mainframe access is increasingly available that way, perhaps even if you audit a community college course. Auditing a community college course has a low price, I'd expect. I don't know about your part of the world, but mainframe access is certainly not increasingly available in Michigan. I know that mainframe availability for students at The University of Michigan and Wayne State University was shut down long ago. I'm sure they are not the only ones. There is not a single community college in the state running z/OS. Yes, I am aware of IBM's Academic Initiative. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...
Ed, Actually I find it interesting that you should say what you have. It is my understanding that while it is true that IBM has not had anything to process the data in the past, the original purpose of SMF was to provide accounting data for chargeback purposes. It took a while and some head pounding by SHARE, GUIDE, and CMG members to get IBM to put some good performance data into SMF. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- Tom, I found it interesting that they (IBM) have anything. IMO IBM in the long past and recent past have been lets say less than enthusiastic in doing anything about charge back. IMO most of the improvements (not all) in RMF came from users requesting (GUIDE SHARE) additions. IIRC IBM short of held their breath when talking charge back. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperspace and IEFUSI
If we don't set anything in the IEFUSI exit to control Hiperspaces, does the system establish any limits on the size of a Hiperspace an application can request? Yes. The defaults are clearly explained in Installation Exits. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...
while it is true that IBM has not had anything to process the data in the past Some years ago Barry Merrill wrote a paper on the history of SMF. He described an SMF-processing system IBM developed but never released (SMFMAN?). Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:59:47 +0900, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Zelden writes: An *IBM representative* used the U word not once, but twice. As mentioned countless times, and which I guess I have to repeat yet again, I'm not an IBM representative here in IBM-MAIN. I speak only for myself here. I was only joking about this because that was an argument someone else used. But to that point, you are no different than anyone else. No one that I can think of who participates regularly in this list does so as an official IBM representative. They all do so on their own time because they want to and presumably like helping people or enjoy the discussions (and I for one sincerely appreciate the fact that they do so and thank them!). I think think that is true for most if not all the people on this list who work for software or hardware vendors. I suppose some ISVs probably have people monitoring IBM-MAIN to keep everyone honest about their product(s), but that is the exception and they aren't regular contributors. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
Mark Zelden wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:46:50 +0900, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip probably with USS. snip and z/OS 1.9 introduces USS improvements snip What... no takers, no war? I'm disappointed. An *IBM representative* used the U word not once, but twice. Does that mean it's officially ok to use again casually when the context is clear? Oh, btw, I'm glad to see VTAM is finally getting some improvements in that area. Now if they can just improve z/OS Unix. ;-) Mark (please accept my apologies ... I just couldn't resist) Why pick on Timothy, he's too easy a target. Tom Moulder -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple TSO logons
Craddock, Chris wrote: Nope. Completely different. The z/OS System Explorer was/is a single address space server that provided a (Java) GUI interface for most of the things you would typically do under ISPF and SDSF. File browse/edit (using your own choice of editor), search/compare, dataset manipulation, job submission, job output management yada yada yada. And there were plans for a set of product functions that would plug into the same infrastructure and UI. CC Agreed Chris. I did not say that it was a replacement for TSO. It did however remove the need for VTAM in the middle of things because it was JAVA and pure TCP/IP. Tom -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:51 PM, FRASER, Brian wrote: What mainframe software did CA originally develop? In a message dated 6/14/2007 10:11:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My vague recollection was the cobol optimizer capex. I could be wrong its been ages and ages. Capex was the name of an ISV in Phoenix, I think. They had several products. My employer bought one of their products ca. 1972. I can't remember now what it did (too many ages and ages). I don't remember what happened to Capex, but they were probably borged by CA. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DR and JES check point question
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:57:24 -0400, Andy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im trying to find out from anyone out there who might be doing the same thing. We are planning for a disaster recovery site we control and mirror using XRC over distance. We currently have the JES2 check point for a few systems in a sysplex in an external CF, then the second check point is on DASD and in duplex mode. Its our understanding the second check point on DASD is and know its can be up to 10 writes off from the one in the CF. As a result if you are in this mode do you come up as warm or cold when it comes to JES2? We would like to come up warm so we don't loose work especially if a disaster should happen late during the batch run. Do you just come up and reconfigure using the back up check point from DASD being mirrored and just orphan the output not written to the check point? I mean if you loose a dozen or so output doesn't sound like a lot. But we'd like to hear what other companies do? I think you'll get answers in both directions. Here, we do it both ways. Even some systems with all DASD checkpoints get cold started to avoid any possible problems. Since every environment contains some product to handle production output (CA-Dispatch, CA-View, CA-Deliver, Mobius View Direct, Beta 92, etc.), the loss from the spool itself is not considered critical since it will be 99% test jobs and programmer output. But there are some we warm start also. One of the other reasons we cold are large environments is the amount of bandwidth for mirroring all those spool volumes (one of them has 65 3390-3 spool volumes). JES2 is very good these days at starting up after a checkpoint failure (which this is), so I don't really buy into the need to start up clean to avoid any possible problems like I used to. Even if there were a problem you could probably offload most or all of what was there and then do a cold start. So I think there is no correct answer here... it depends on what is right for your environment. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 09:01 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote: Some years ago Barry Merrill wrote a paper on the history of SMF. He described an SMF-processing system IBM developed but never released (SMFMAN?). He presented at SHARE 73 in August of 1989. Here are notes of that session from my trip report of the time: === This was an outstanding presentation by Barry Merrill on the history of SMF. He assembled the information from recently declassified IBM documents, and through interviews with the original architects of the facility. OS/360 was announced on April 7, 1964 with no SMF. Barely three months later the SHARE Systems Objectives and Requirements Committee (SORC) presented IBM with a report that said: IBM S/360 must provide as a standard feature job accounting information. The SORC report included most of the data items that you have seen in SMF data over the past 20 years. The SHARE SORC also asked for a couple of data items that we still don't have after 20 years: * operator intervention time (time awaiting tape/paper mounts, etc.) * core used by program, core used by data The closest thing to SMF provided by IBM at the time was the IEFACTRT exit. IEFACTRT was provided pointers to data items such as the jobname and stepname. OS/360 also provided a system dataset - SYS1.ACCT - to which IEFACTRT could write user records. The SORC report basically lay dormant until June 1966 when Bob Brockish joined IBM (he had previously been active in SHARE). He looked seriously at the SORC report and saw two architectural goals of a future SMF project. Users needed to account for time and resource usage on their expensive mainframes. IBM needed to know how OS/360 was being used in the field! In fact, there was an active project at the time within IBM - called the SYSOUT Project - which was devising programs to look at SYSOUT tapes from customer sites and try to analyze system usage from the output that customers produced. On July 6, 1966, the name SMF - System Management Facility - was picked in a brainstorming session. The philosophy of the project was that IBM would provide a way to collect data, but the customer must actually report on the collected data (IBM couldn't see how to second-guess customers on their use of accounting data). After surveying data requirements, it was determined that SMF would have to modify 160 modules of the operating system. This caused a great deal of worry over system performance, and so IBM planned for installation-selectable packages of information. GUIDE finally got involved in the SMF project on May 22, 1967. On August 25, SHARE went to its membership with a survey which asked How much degradation is OK for collection of SMF data? The SMF exits and intercepts were originally called the Dynamic Control Capability. It consisted of a system management dataset, five data collection packages, and dynamic control entries (which presumably controlled which packages were to be activated). The data collection packages each were to record a certain level of detail: Package 1: job level data Package 2: step level data Package 3: additional job/step data Package 4: still more data Package 5: sample data Packages 1-4 were for accounting purposes. Package 5 was for performance measurement (and was never implemented until MF/1 came around in MVS). SMF was to provide utility reports based on data recorded in SYS1.MAN - system, job and step profiles. There was to be no performance degradation when no SMF is employed. Packages 1-3 should not degrade the system more than 3%. Package 4 was allowed to degrade the system 4%. Package 5 time/sample was to be no more than 500 milliseconds on a 360/50 CPU. Subset 2 of the SMF definition contained a dataset management utility. It provided an archive for the SYS1.MAN database. It also reported on dataset OPENs and CLOSEs, and provided additional billing information. On July 27, 1967, volume and PDS reorganization utilities were defined as part of SMF (the system was to write a message to the console when a PDS required reorganization)! IBM at the time had 550 users of OS/360 and they forecasted an eventual total of 1,590 users. With 75,000 CPUs delivered worldwide, this estimate may have been low... One of the SMF architects - Bart Page - was designing a SRM component for SMF, but he was a better technician than he was a salesman. He subsequently left SMF to go work on the MVM - Multiple Virtual Memories - project. In January 1968 the final specification for the management utility was internally published, and included DASD and tape inventory functions. The specification included utility syntax, JCL to execute and output messages (numbered IEH901 through IEH916). The program name: IEHMAN! It was tested on a 360/50, and took 19 minutes to update the archive from a SYS1.MAN with 60 jobs on it. On June 25, 1969 the Resource Management Utility was deleted with no explanation. This was indeed a last-minute
Re: Hiperspace and IEFUSI
In the Installation exits manual under IEFUSI in the common exit parameter list word 7 subword 1 Default data space and hiperspace size. It is specified in blocks of 4K bytes and must be in the range of 1-X'0008'. The IBM-supplied default is 956K (X'00EF' x 4K). Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Hiperspace and IEFUSI If we don't set anything in the IEFUSI exit to control Hiperspaces, does the system establish any limits on the size of a Hiperspace an application can request? -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- Victory in defeat, there is none higher. She didn't give up, Ben; she's still trying to lift that stone after it has crushed her. She's a father going down to a dull office job while cancer is painfully eating away his insides, so as to bring home one more pay check for the kids. She's a twelve-year-old girl trying to mother her baby brothers and sisters because Mama had to go to Heaven. She's a switchboard operator sticking to her job while smoke is choking her and the fire is cutting off her escape. She's all the unsung heroes who couldn't quite cut it but never quit.* Robert A. Heinlein - Stranger in a Strange Land *Referring to the Auguste Rodin sculpture, Caryatid Who Has Fallen under Her Stone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HASPINDX Dynamic Allocation Error
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:29:46 -0500, Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Listers, When i try to access the syslog, under SDSF I'm getting the following message ISF008I DYNAMIC ALLOCATION ERROR RC=004 EC=1708 IC=0002 DDN=ISF.HASPINDX VOL=STDPAK DSN=ISF.HASPINDX * Following steps I tried to resolve this error 1) Allocated a new HASPINDX dataset 2) Changed the DSI value to YES under ISFPRM member on SYS1.PARMLIB 3) Refreshed the SDSF address space. Still the same error, is there any clue what to do next is there a need to initialize the HASPINDX dataset how to initialize. 1708 LOCATE ERROR: ENTRY NOT FOUND, OR VSAM CATALOG REQUEST FAILED. Are you sure the dsn is correct? The DDN in your paste above doesn't look correct (it should be HASPINDX, not ISF.HASPINDX). Did you code INDXVOL, or is ISF.HASPINDX cataloged to STDPAK but doesn't exist? Did you exit / re-enter SDSF after the refresh? Did the refresh work correctly? And finally... was ISF.HASPINDX on STDPAK used previously (or cataloged there) since you were logged on to TSO. HASPINDX might still be allocated to your TSO session. In that case, you can the TSO FREE command or ISRDDN to free the allocationor logoff and back onto TSO and try it again. Is the HASPINDX dynamically allocated when SYSLOG panel is accessed Yes. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple TSO logons (was: Patents, ...)
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:00:27 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how does IKJEFT01 in batch bypass all that stuff? How does it bridge the userid==address space name pitfall? SMOP of course. Oh... you want details? -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...
In a message dated 6/15/2007 8:27:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On July 6, 1966, the name SMF - System Management Facility - was picked in a brainstorming session. The philosophy of the project was that IBM would provide a way to collect data, but the customer must actually report on the collected data (IBM couldn't see how to second-guess customers on their use of accounting data). N.B. that IBM did not name it System ACCOUNTING Facility or System MEASUREMENT Facility. Management means different things to different data centers' management. Some shops did not charge for their computer resources and needed info mainly for gross capacity trending and thus lead time on ordering more equipment or upgrades. Some shops charged for every microsecond and needed detailed info for billing their customers. Other shops' hot button was solving performance bottlenecks, for which they needed detailed performance info. IBM provided the raw management data (not accounting data) for data centers to use in managing their computer resources however they wanted. Over the years far more detailed info and new record types have been added. Many vendors saw fit to write SMF records so data centers could manage the use of those vendor products as well. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple TSO logons (was: Patents, ...)
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:39:30 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: So how does IKJEFT01 in batch bypass all that stuff? How does it bridge the userid==address space name pitfall? SMOP of course. Oh... you want details? No, SMOP is quite the answer I wanted. And it appears that some of the Programming, such as decoupling the userid from the address space has already been done. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:51 PM, FRASER, Brian wrote: What mainframe software did CA originally develop? In a message dated 6/14/2007 10:11:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My vague recollection was the cobol optimizer capex. I could be wrong its been ages and ages. Capex was the name of an ISV in Phoenix, I think. They had several products. My employer bought one of their products ca. 1972. I can't remember now what it did (too many ages and ages). I don't remember what happened to Capex, but they were probably borged by CA. snip They had the CAPEX COBOL Optimizer that was used by two different places where I did contract work in the '80s. I remember calling them about a problem and the next week being told they had been acquired by CA. That's as much as I can recall about them. I remember a bit more about the optimizer, but not much -- one thing being how well dumps were formatted when using one of their options (DTECT?). And so the one client we had was going to get rid of ABENDAID because it didn't make sense to have both products. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
Capex (and the Phoenix location is correct) was the first large software company CA acquired. They had the COBOL Optimizer product as well as the product named SCHEDULER which became, of course, CA-SCHEDULER. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Access 3270 data from anywhere with z/XML-Host Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host Access CMS minidisks from z/OS or z/VSE with CMSACCess Voice: 214-800-8900 Fax: 214-451-6394 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules They had the CAPEX COBOL Optimizer that was used by two different places ...snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BLDL question
In a message dated 6/14/2007 5:47:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... BLDL section states that When the system returns control to the problem program, the low-order byte of register 15 contains a return code. The low-order byte of register 0 contains a reason code. Can one presume that the other 3 bytes of R15 and R0 are '0' (zero)? Never presume. That which is documented is what works. Anything beyond that is presumption. There are some system services that put a return code in byte 3 (the low-order byte) of R15 and a reason code in byte 2 of R15. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: flushing the ARP cache....
John and Dave PURGECACHE came in with z/OS V1R4 Communications Server - as my binary search in the online manuals revealed. See Summary of changes for SC31-8781-02 z/OS Version 1 Release 4. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:51 AM Subject: Re: flushing the ARP cache Dave Jones wrote: I have a question from a colleague: What is the best way to flush ARP cache from a TCPIP stack at the OS/390 V2.10 level? (besides the obvious of stopping TCPIP and then restarting) Thanks. DJ I am not sure if it works under OS/390, but you can try: V TCPIP,,PURGECACHE,interfacename Assuming your IP stc name is TCPIP. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...
On Jun 15, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Kelman, Tom wrote: Ed, Actually I find it interesting that you should say what you have. It is my understanding that while it is true that IBM has not had anything to process the data in the past, the original purpose of SMF was to provide accounting data for chargeback purposes. It took a while and some head pounding by SHARE, GUIDE, and CMG members to get IBM to put some good performance data into SMF. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 Tom: I agree that it took a lot of head pounding from users (you listed) to get IBM to provide the data, I think I said as much in my entry. After all this time of being asked, IBM appears to have listened. What may have happened (and its only a guess mind you) is that the number of OEM providers have thinned out so much that IBM finally saw a chance to make some money. I have not kept up with the OEM smf reporters but there are only a few left after all this time. The two that pop to the front of my memory is MICS and MXG (there could be others but these are sort of the ones that have been around the longest, IMO. MICS is sort of the Rolls Royce and MXG is at the other extreme (cost wise). There may be others out there that are well known but I have not heard a lot about them in recent talk on here. Indeed there have been more that a few people on here that have poopoohed the idea of collecting the data. I don't wish to second guess their reasons but IIRC the reason of cost in storage of such data is expensive. I think while that is true there has to be some idea and costing to show what the users are paying for does make sense. While it may be up in the area on how fine a detail you need to capture, its probably a good idea for for a rough idea. Especially since the cost of storing the data has come down over the years with the virtual drives. I know at one time we were worried about capturing almost everything down to the byte level I think its reasonable now to capture a reasonable picture of the data. One thing that had bothered me is charge back for PSF printing . I could never reconcile with the data that IBM provided was a way to figure out cost for it, that is a different issue and I may be hung up on the bits and bytes to offer any good argument in that area. One of the other big issues is to come up with dollar figures for overhead and I have literally seen the spectrum of opinions. I think it comes down to how serious the company wants to show costs. I am happy that IBM is showing renewed interest in this area but it is surprising as after years of neglect the parent is finally bearing fruit. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to monitor CPU peaks from an exec?
I would like to get a fairly simple report in real time of an online server's CPU usage. I'm especially looking for transaction-like peaks/spikes of CPU time, percentage of CPU used on the machine, and how long these spikes last. (What RMF does basically.) It would be nice if I could get this information from a Rexx exec running in a TSO address space. If possible, could anyone give me a hint as to which control blocks to look into? Doing basically what RMF does would be enormously difficult as a casual exercise. And why bother? There are plenty of APIs you can call to get just about anything you might want from RMF, or even from SMF. The book you want is here (mind the wrap) http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ERBZPG60/CCO NTENTS?SHELF=ERBZBK60DN=SC33-7994-07DT=20060721101415 Or tiny'd up... http://tinyurl.com/272mhw CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple TSO logons
Tom Moulder said of the z/OS System Explorer Agreed Chris. I did not say that it was a replacement for TSO. It did however remove the need for VTAM in the middle of things because it was JAVA and pure TCP/IP. True. And in one of those bizarre who'da thunkit? moments, it also turns out that it will cheerfully run SUB=MSTR. So you can do a bunch of stuff without even JES being up - basically anything that does not in and of itself require the services of the JES. Obviously you would have to do some quirky things in your z/OS setup to do that, but I tried it out and it worked. BTW there's an embedded gen-u-wine Apache web server running inside of it - which is how I happen to know how much of a pain in the butt it is to port the native Apache C code onto z/OS. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CA Auditor (Examine) for z/OS comparison
Hello, Does anyone have comparative documentation between CA Auditor (was eTrust Examine) versus other z/OS auditing products? If so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share that with me or point me to any known on-line resources where I can download myself. Feel free to send offline to me if preferred. Thanks! Bob Robert B. Fake InfoSec, Inc. 703-825-1202 (o) 571-241-5492 (c) 949-203-0406 (efax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at www.infosecinc.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEAOPTxx options in use
SHOWzOS 715 display some of the values, but fails for RMPTTOM because of a change from milliseconds to microseconds in z/OS R7. This will be fixed on version 716. Our IEAOPTxx contains just RMPTTOM=2000 /*SRM INVOCATION INTERVAL IN MILLISECONDS */ /* see APAR OA18452, Circumvention until PTF */ and this will be obsolete for current releases/maintenance Roland -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Fletcher Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IEAOPTxx options in use According to the Initialisation and Tuning Reference, from z/OS 1.3 most IEAOPTxx options are ignored. It also says that if an option is found in IEAOPTxx that is no longer used it is just ignored. It then lists quite a long list of options that are presumably recognised and used. Is there any display or module that will show which IEAOPTxx contents have been accepted? This question arises because I am working in a z/OS 1.4 system that is being prepared for upgrade for z/OS 1.7 first part of which is to switch to z/ARCH mode. My inclination is to empty IEAOPTxx so that the z/OS 1.4 defaults, whatever they are will automatically switch to the 1.4 z/ARCH values, then to the z/OS 1.7 values. Any comments please? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 IBMLINK
snip The VM/SNA version of IBMLink was reinstated on 06/11 snip Thank you for the update. I did send Mark an email. It's nice to know that we have a backup in the UNLIKELY event that the web IBMLink doesn't work... Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Fatal Flaw in Space station Computers-The Americans did it! ABCNEWS
Well, maybe not on purpose. _http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3281714_ (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3281714) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Compaktor and ML1
Followup: We disabled using Compaktor on ML1 volumes. WE had a long and painful recovery decoding SDSP datasets but ultimately got back a very large majority of datasets that were trapped. Of course, that was under the very capable guidance and tutelage of IBM HSM support. The culprit was some missing maintenance for Compaktor. The hard part for us was learning that we were even running Compaktor when its insallation and activation was by a person or persons unkown. (if it's working, why mess with it.) Thanks to tips and guidance from the listers as well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fatal Flaw in Space station Computers-The Americans did it! ABCNEWS
On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Ed Finnell wrote: Well, maybe not on purpose. _http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3281714_ (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3281714) Ed: Along the same lines we had a intermittent issue with our T1s in the same area as this. It drove us nuts for 3-5 months trying to figure out what was going on. Turned out the telephone people in NYC didn't put shielding on the T1 lines so every time the elevator would go by we lost our lines. I was apologetic with IBM but I think they were happy to hear we figured out what the issue was. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to monitor CPU peaks from an exec?
Chris I just tried your full - long - URL and the following http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ERBZPG60 which probably won't wrap. The results are the same. In other words, all the garbage starting /CCONTENTS is tracking how you got to the referenced page - or something like that - and contributes nothing. In fact, when you use the URL above - or any URL identifying one of these manuals - you will get the CONTENTS Table of Contents page and /CCONTENTS will be appended automatically. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: Re: How to monitor CPU peaks from an exec? ... The book you want is here (mind the wrap) http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ERBZPG60/CCO NTENTS?SHELF=ERBZBK60DN=SC33-7994-07DT=20060721101415 Or tiny'd up... http://tinyurl.com/272mhw CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E, IEBUPDTE, and SuperC (was: CA-1 install - user exits?)
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0500, Kenneth E Tomiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:55:38 -0500, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I heard it, Corporate Executives, not system programmers, told IBM they needed the software installation simplified. ServerPac is the answer. It is dumbing down the field. You did mention looking at the apply, well here I am again stating if the newer people are not looking at the JCL, they are submitting they are certainly not looking at the output. Until it fails. As long as it works, submit and max return code 0 are all they believe they need to know. Sadly, I know a few people with years of experience who can not do much more than this. I have my own issues with Serverpac and post installation dialogs. I think the *operative* words here are: Corporate Executives They just want systems programmers to make *LESS* money, so their companies can make bigger profits and themselves get bigger bonuses. Especially in the contracting / consulting business, be it Fed Gov't, *any* gov't, etc. They don't want to pay us for our experience and expertise. Just pay themselves the *BIG$$$* bucks. Except for Service Bureaus or Time Shares. (Gee, do they still exist?) And with ServerPac, what you end up with are non-systems programmers, or folks who work in DP/APPL/OPER/IT/IS (take your pick), who've just been promoted and are still making peanuts$$. Again, bottom line here. Then those *Maroons* get an error and call someone. Then the fun starts, ay?! And thus, you have the *dumbing down* scenario. Just my 2-cents worth. .mhyI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fatal Flaw in Space station Computers-The Americans did it! ABCNEWS
In a message dated 6/15/2007 9:43:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: out what was going on. Turned out the telephone people in NYC didn't put shielding on the T1 lines so every time the elevator would go by we lost our lines. Did you see the other side bar- receiving ISS video on baby monitor? _http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3277938_ (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3277938) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Free C Compiler (Was: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)
Timothy Sipples wrote: Coincidentally I put some information about a 31-bit z/OS C compiler on The Mainframe Blog yesterday. See: http://mainframe.typepad.com That could get you going. Although if you can get a small zNALC LPAR going IBM's C/C++ compiler is darn close to zero price. Timothy, Have you (has anyone?) actually used GCC, the Tachyon z/Assembler, and LIB390 to port any significant open source software to z/OS USS? Which packages? I'm not saying that this project is not doing excellent work, but I'm skeptical that its ready for prime time. According to the website for LIB390 (the OS390 GLIBC): - well over half of the C library functions are implemented... - Support for the C++ language will require two major enhancements - Debugger support is not available The referenced SHARE Presentation: http://www.tachyonsoft.com/s8131db.pdf is from 2002. Its not clear if this project is very active. I agree 100% with John McKown: having a good bootstrap GNU tool chain for z/OS USS would enable many important packages to be ported to z/OS. (for more see: http://oss4zos.org ) But at this point, I think that building a bootstrap GNU toolchain on top of the IBM z/OS C/C++ compiler is the best way to go. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules
Timothy Sipples wrote: Ray Mullins writes: Random thought - I wonder what would happen if Fujitsu and Hitachi decided to release their clones of MVS and VSE to hobbyists. Yeah, yeah, there's legal agreements, etc., which probably preclude that. It's an interesting hypothetical to ponder for a little while. But I'll ask a question that'll give you a hint what I think the impact would be. Have these companies shipped any substantial innovations or improvements in their operating systems in, say, the past decade? The simple answer to your explicit question: no. But in the MVS-ish world they can deliver almost everything except 64 bit and some sort of OpenMVS functionality (not getting in the you-ess-ess fun). Data spaces, access registers, TCP/IP stack + utilities, a lot of stuff that isn't there in MVS 3.8j. And for BTI (let's drop the slash) types such as myself, that's sufficient. Later, Ray -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Free C Compiler
Kirk Wolf writes: [Other excellent points omitted.] But at this point, I think that building a bootstrap GNU toolchain on top of the IBM z/OS C/C++ compiler is the best way to go. I agree, Kirk. That'll support 64-bit code, for one big thing. For reference, I think IBM's compiler is around $10 or $12 per month on a 3 MSU standard commercially licensed zNALC LPAR, assuming you meet the terms and conditions. Speaking of which, there's another idea that I think appeared here in some form (remote COBOL compiles maybe) which I'll repeat more directly. If you look at several open source community projects they have shared build and/or test servers. The Mozilla Foundation's servers are called Tinderboxes, for example. See here for more information: http://www.mozilla.org/tinderbox.html So if the goal is to generate z/OS binaries more easily and inexpensively, why not have a shared z/OS Tinderbox LPAR, with a (probably secured) Web-accessible compiler engine? Submit your compile job, get back the binary (and error/warning messages). If you want to get a little sophisticated, WLM service classing could allow BT/Is free, as soon as the system gets around to it compiles alongside paying users demanding higher service levels. The Web interface might also provide information on how quickly recent compile jobs completed. Such a service would obviously require a consortium or generous benefactor of some kind, but it wouldn't be huge. Bonus points if it's a couple or three different benefactors with a couple or three geographically scattered LPARs. And actually the good people at Dignus have already done something very much like this, albeit for different purposes. See here: http://dignus.com/testdrive.shtml Remote compiles would be the first step. The Mozilla Tinderboxes do extensive testing, and you can look at test reports on the Web. That may be more complicated in this situation. But if you can bootstrap the GNU toolchain, there's a lot of interesting stuff you can produce just with remote compilation service. In case anyone is worried about the financial health of the compiler vendors should such a service appear, I seriously doubt there'd be a problem. For one thing, if you want the compile done NOW, this isn't your service. Also, I don't know very many companies or governments that would want their private source code uploaded to a public Web site. But for things like open source community development (e.g. GNU toolchain initial build and ongoing updates) on a non time-sensitive basis, it'd be interesting. It wouldn't necessarily be limited to C and C++. Assembler is a given, but there could also be Enterprise COBOL, Enterprise PL/I, compiled REXX, VS/FORTRAN, etc. Don't need Java. (You can compile Java anywhere already.) Thinking out loud here. Maybe that's dangerous, but what the heck. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Free C Compiler
Thinking out loud some more, it seems much of the service could be done via convenient e-mail. You'd send an e-mail with a file attachment (in common formats like .zip, .tar, .tar.gz) containing your source code, make file, etc. You'd send the e-mail to something like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or eventually [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. The system would immediately e-mail you back a job submission acknowledgement, with a Web address containing a job number of some kind. It might also send you back the total execution time (wall clock) for the last completed submission and current number of submissions still in progress, just to give you some clues how long it might take. Please save this information. We will send another e-mail when your job is complete. If you go to the Web address you'll get a status page for your compile job. You'll also have the option to terminate the job before completion. (Ideally the system would only let each e-mail address have one compile job running and queue any more sequentially. So it would be to your advantage to terminate any jobs ahead if you no longer want them.) When the job is complete, you'll get another e-mail with a Web link to download the completed output (including binary). There might be a security step or two in here (such as registering your e-mail address first). H Any benefactors out there? Is this something a university might want to host, for example? - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Free C Compiler
Timothy Sipples wrote: Thinking out loud some more, it seems much of the service could be done via convenient e-mail. You'd send an e-mail with a file attachment (in common formats like .zip, .tar, .tar.gz) containing your source code, make file, etc. You'd send the e-mail to something like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or eventually [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. The system would immediately e-mail you back a job submission acknowledgement, with a Web address containing a job number of some kind. It might also send you back the total execution time (wall clock) for the last completed submission and current number of submissions still in progress, just to give you some clues how long it might take. Please save this information. We will send another e-mail when your job is complete. If you go to the Web address you'll get a status page for your compile job. You'll also have the option to terminate the job before completion. (Ideally the system would only let each e-mail address have one compile job running and queue any more sequentially. So it would be to your advantage to terminate any jobs ahead if you no longer want them.) Gee! That's great. Why don't you quit IBM and set it up for us? I'm sure you'd get a lot of takers. When the job is complete, you'll get another e-mail with a Web link to download the completed output (including binary). There might be a security step or two in here (such as registering your e-mail address first). H Any benefactors out there? Is this something a university might want to host, for example? Not IBM, I'll wager. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept Hi all. I know this isn't a z/OS question but I don't think any of us live in a homogeneous environment and the best way I can think of asking this AIX question is to word it in z/OS terminology. I have an application developer who wants to have 2 AIX LPARs access shared disk. He thinks he can just have me point the LUN on the SAN to both LPARs and everything will work just fine. On my Z, I can set up GRS or a third-party competitor to this to serialize I/O requests from various LPARs/machines. Is there something in AIX that performs a similar function? I asked this of an AIX list and the response I got back was something called GPFS which they say can do this. Unfortunately it appears as though I would need to buy and activate HACMP to use GPFS. Is there something else, more of a stand-alone product like GRS that would allow me to share a disk LUN across multiple AIX LPARs without having the LPARs step on each other? Thanks and have a happy Friday. Rex You simply CANNOT DO THIS!! If you actually tried, you'd end up scragging the UNIX filesystem. The only way to share data between UNIX systems is via something like NFS (or GPFS or AFS or some other type of thing). This applies even in z/OS UNIX. If you create an HFS or zFS filesystem and attempt to mount it on multiple z/OS systems which are not in the same Parallel Sysplex with the appropriate setup, then you will fry the UNIX filesystem. I've done it (by accident). Trying to share a UNIX filesystem would be like trying to share a single VSAM file in UPDATE mode between two different batch jobs on two different z/OS images, and you didn't have RLS. There are some UNIX filesystems (the aforementioned AFS or GPFS) which have something like RLS so that filesystem information can be shared between the two UNIX systems. UNIX buffers all the disk I/O into local caches. With two separate UNIX systems, you have two separate caches and no communications between them so that the caches remain coherent. Image trying to run a multitask system with shared memory, but no locking or other safety precautions. You end up, eventually, with trash. Bottom line: Not possible except with the aforementioned filesystems such as AFS or GPFS. I am fairly sure the GPFS is an IBM filesystem for AIX systems. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept
I believe at AIX 5.3 (maybe earlier) you no longer need HACMP in order to use GPFS. I think an easier way is to NFS mount it to the second lpar. Without doing something strange I don't think it would be possible to have the volume group active in read/write at same time to multiple, but if you did it with a JFS or JFS2 file system then you'd be risking corruption of it for sure. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept Hi all. I know this isn't a z/OS question but I don't think any of us live in a homogeneous environment and the best way I can think of asking this AIX question is to word it in z/OS terminology. I have an application developer who wants to have 2 AIX LPARs access shared disk. He thinks he can just have me point the LUN on the SAN to both LPARs and everything will work just fine. On my Z, I can set up GRS or a third-party competitor to this to serialize I/O requests from various LPARs/machines. Is there something in AIX that performs a similar function? I asked this of an AIX list and the response I got back was something called GPFS which they say can do this. Unfortunately it appears as though I would need to buy and activate HACMP to use GPFS. Is there something else, more of a stand-alone product like GRS that would allow me to share a disk LUN across multiple AIX LPARs without having the LPARs step on each other? Thanks and have a happy Friday. Rex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept
Rex, NFS doesn't require a 3rd server. You simply run the NFS server on one of the AIX boxes, and export the required directories, and then NFS mount them on the other box. I have been a number of places that had one server that was the home server, and all the user home directories were physically attached to that, and all other servers nfs mounted the /home mountpoint. That way, I could access my home data from any server in the farm. Granted it is a single point of failure, but if you have a failover mechanism for the boxes that will take control of the LUN in this case, you can get around it. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept John, Thanks for the info. I know I need something like GPFS to do this. I'm NOT going to allow the programmer to just hope for the best and share the disk. What I was looking for was something akin to GPFS (hopefully without the admin overhead of HACMP) that would allow me to do this safely. GPFS is definitely an IBM product. Can you tell me what AFS is? NFS won't work for me because that is giving me a single point of failure in that if the NFS server goes down, I've lost access to the data from both sides of the AIX LPARs. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept Hi all. I know this isn't a z/OS question but I don't think any of us live in a homogeneous environment and the best way I can think of asking this AIX question is to word it in z/OS terminology. I have an application developer who wants to have 2 AIX LPARs access shared disk. He thinks he can just have me point the LUN on the SAN to both LPARs and everything will work just fine. On my Z, I can set up GRS or a third-party competitor to this to serialize I/O requests from various LPARs/machines. Is there something in AIX that performs a similar function? I asked this of an AIX list and the response I got back was something called GPFS which they say can do this. Unfortunately it appears as though I would need to buy and activate HACMP to use GPFS. Is there something else, more of a stand-alone product like GRS that would allow me to share a disk LUN across multiple AIX LPARs without having the LPARs step on each other? Thanks and have a happy Friday. Rex You simply CANNOT DO THIS!! If you actually tried, you'd end up scragging the UNIX filesystem. The only way to share data between UNIX systems is via something like NFS (or GPFS or AFS or some other type of thing). This applies even in z/OS UNIX. If you create an HFS or zFS filesystem and attempt to mount it on multiple z/OS systems which are not in the same Parallel Sysplex with the appropriate setup, then you will fry the UNIX filesystem. I've done it (by accident). Trying to share a UNIX filesystem would be like trying to share a single VSAM file in UPDATE mode between two different batch jobs on two different z/OS images, and you didn't have RLS. There are some UNIX filesystems (the aforementioned AFS or GPFS) which have something like RLS so that filesystem information can be shared between the two UNIX systems. UNIX buffers all the disk I/O into local caches. With two separate UNIX systems, you have two separate caches and no communications between them so that the caches remain coherent. Image trying to run a multitask system with shared memory, but no locking or other safety precautions. You end up, eventually, with trash. Bottom line: Not possible except with the aforementioned filesystems such as AFS or GPFS. I am fairly sure the GPFS is an IBM filesystem for AIX systems. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept John, Thanks for the info. I know I need something like GPFS to do this. I'm NOT going to allow the programmer to just hope for the best and share the disk. What I was looking for was something akin to GPFS (hopefully without the admin overhead of HACMP) that would allow me to do this safely. GPFS is definitely an IBM product. Can you tell me what AFS is? NFS won't work for me because that is giving me a single point of failure in that if the NFS server goes down, I've lost access to the data from both sides of the AIX LPARs. Rex AFS == Andrew File System? Or something similar. But I think it is like NFS and requires the two systems to be in communication with one of them being the actual server. Sorry, but I've never used it and only remember a bit from discussions on the Linux forums. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DR and JES check point question
We use something other than XRC but come up warm in DR. Our configuration otherwise is just as you describe, Primary in the CF and Secondary on Mirrored DASD. My contention is that the spool is not a data repository and should not be relied on to hold information. (If it is that critical then there should be a copy of the data elsewhere). Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy White using XRC over distance. We currently have the JES2 check point for a few systems in a Sysplex in an external CF, then the second check point is on DASD and in duplex mode. Its our understanding the second check point on DASD is and know its can be up to 10 writes off from the one in the CF. As a result if you are in this mode do you come up as warm or cold when it comes to JES2? Email Firewall made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept
John, Thanks for the info. I know I need something like GPFS to do this. I'm NOT going to allow the programmer to just hope for the best and share the disk. What I was looking for was something akin to GPFS (hopefully without the admin overhead of HACMP) that would allow me to do this safely. GPFS is definitely an IBM product. Can you tell me what AFS is? NFS won't work for me because that is giving me a single point of failure in that if the NFS server goes down, I've lost access to the data from both sides of the AIX LPARs. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Quick AIX question rooted in a z/OS concept Hi all. I know this isn't a z/OS question but I don't think any of us live in a homogeneous environment and the best way I can think of asking this AIX question is to word it in z/OS terminology. I have an application developer who wants to have 2 AIX LPARs access shared disk. He thinks he can just have me point the LUN on the SAN to both LPARs and everything will work just fine. On my Z, I can set up GRS or a third-party competitor to this to serialize I/O requests from various LPARs/machines. Is there something in AIX that performs a similar function? I asked this of an AIX list and the response I got back was something called GPFS which they say can do this. Unfortunately it appears as though I would need to buy and activate HACMP to use GPFS. Is there something else, more of a stand-alone product like GRS that would allow me to share a disk LUN across multiple AIX LPARs without having the LPARs step on each other? Thanks and have a happy Friday. Rex You simply CANNOT DO THIS!! If you actually tried, you'd end up scragging the UNIX filesystem. The only way to share data between UNIX systems is via something like NFS (or GPFS or AFS or some other type of thing). This applies even in z/OS UNIX. If you create an HFS or zFS filesystem and attempt to mount it on multiple z/OS systems which are not in the same Parallel Sysplex with the appropriate setup, then you will fry the UNIX filesystem. I've done it (by accident). Trying to share a UNIX filesystem would be like trying to share a single VSAM file in UPDATE mode between two different batch jobs on two different z/OS images, and you didn't have RLS. There are some UNIX filesystems (the aforementioned AFS or GPFS) which have something like RLS so that filesystem information can be shared between the two UNIX systems. UNIX buffers all the disk I/O into local caches. With two separate UNIX systems, you have two separate caches and no communications between them so that the caches remain coherent. Image trying to run a multitask system with shared memory, but no locking or other safety precautions. You end up, eventually, with trash. Bottom line: Not possible except with the aforementioned filesystems such as AFS or GPFS. I am fairly sure the GPFS is an IBM filesystem for AIX systems. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to monitor CPU peaks from an exec?
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 10:33 -0400, Craddock, Chris wrote: Doing basically what RMF does would be enormously difficult as a casual exercise. And why bother? There are plenty of APIs you can call to get just about anything you might want from RMF, or even from SMF. Speaking of which ... Anybody had a play with the (RMF) CIM data yet ???. When I first looked at it I didn't have access to a system at the appropriate level. Still on my gotta try this one day list. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Transferring PDSE form one image to another
I am transferring many SMPE environments of many subsystems such as DB2, IMS etc from one z/OS image to another. For each subsystem, I run ADRDSSU utility and include all SMP datasets to get one sequential dataset which I receive at the target system with FTP GET command. When I try to restore the dataset with RESTORE function of ADRDSSU everything works fine except PDSE datasets are not restored and the following messages are produced 0ADR405E (001)-DYNA (02), DYNAMIC ALLOCATION OF VOLUME DB2005 FAILED. ERROR CODE 0218. INFORMATION CODE . 0ADR380E (001)-FRLBO(60), DATA SET DB2.SMPE.V810.ADSNLOAD NOT PROCESSED, 29 Will some on point me to the right direction to resolve this problem. The control cards that I used for ADRDSSU are : //INDA DD DISP=OLD,DSN=DB2.SMPE.V810.COPY1 //SYSINDD * RESTORE INDD(INDA) - DATASET(INC(**)) /* Thanks Ale Eba - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Transferring PDSE form one image to another
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:48:57 -0700, Ale Eba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am transferring many SMPE environments of many subsystems such as DB2, IMS etc from one z/OS image to another. For each subsystem, I run ADRDSSU utility and include all SMP datasets to get one sequential dataset which I receive at the target system with FTP GET command. When I try to restore the dataset with RESTORE function of ADRDSSU everything works fine except PDSE datasets are not restored and the following messages are produced 0ADR405E (001)-DYNA (02), DYNAMIC ALLOCATION OF VOLUME DB2005 FAILED. ERROR CODE 0218. INFORMATION CODE . 0ADR380E (001)-FRLBO(60), DATA SET DB2.SMPE.V810.ADSNLOAD NOT PROCESSED, 29 Will some on point me to the right direction to resolve this problem. The control cards that I used for ADRDSSU are : //INDA DD DISP=OLD,DSN=DB2.SMPE.V810.COPY1 //SYSINDD * RESTORE INDD(INDA) - DATASET(INC(**)) /* Thanks Ale Eba Error: 60 The requested data set is a PDSE, HFS or an extended sequential data set, but there is a preallocated target data set that is a different type or has different attributes. Response: 60 Process the PDSE, HFS, or extended sequential data set using the RENAME or RENAMEUNCONDITIONAL keywords, or rename the preallocated target data set, or delete the preallocated target data set. -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Transferring PDSE form one image to another
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:00:59 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:48:57 -0700, Ale Eba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am transferring many SMPE environments of many subsystems such as DB2, IMS etc from one z/OS image to another. For each subsystem, I run ADRDSSU utility and include all SMP datasets to get one sequential dataset which I receive at the target system with FTP GET command. When I try to restore the dataset with RESTORE function of ADRDSSU everything works fine except PDSE datasets are not restored and the following messages are produced 0ADR405E (001)-DYNA (02), DYNAMIC ALLOCATION OF VOLUME DB2005 FAILED. ERROR CODE 0218. INFORMATION CODE . 0ADR380E (001)-FRLBO(60), DATA SET DB2.SMPE.V810.ADSNLOAD NOT PROCESSED, 29 Will some on point me to the right direction to resolve this problem. The control cards that I used for ADRDSSU are : //INDA DD DISP=OLD,DSN=DB2.SMPE.V810.COPY1 //SYSINDD * RESTORE INDD(INDA) - DATASET(INC(**)) /* Thanks Ale Eba Error: 60 The requested data set is a PDSE, HFS or an extended sequential data set, but there is a preallocated target data set that is a different type or has different attributes. Response: 60 Process the PDSE, HFS, or extended sequential data set using the RENAME or RENAMEUNCONDITIONAL keywords, or rename the preallocated target data set, or delete the preallocated target data set. -- 0218 THE REQUIRED VOLUME WAS NOT MOUNTED ON AN AVAILABLE DEVICE. Are these dsns SMS controlled? Try pointing it to an output volume. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 IBMLINK
Jack Kelly wrote: snip Thank you for the update. I did send Mark an email. It's nice to know that we have a backup in the UNLIKELY event that the web IBMLink doesn't work... ...because of routine maintenance? http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/06/15/ibm_mainframe_support/ Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Transferring PDSE form one image to another
This works for me. I believe the the OUTDD(DISK) pointing to a DASD volume on the receiving system is what makes it work. //REST1EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=7M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=(,),OUTPUT=(*.R1,*.R2) //TAPE DD DISP=SHR,DSN=A409916.VIPER.FILEDUMP.DS1 //DISK DD VOL=REF=*.TAPE,UNIT=AFF=TAPE,DISP=SHR //SYSINDD * RESTORE DATASET(INCLUDE( - **- )) - RENUNC( - (F8CAUB.A501319.PDSE - F8CAUB.A501319.PDSE.JLV) - )- REPLACE CATALOG TOL(ENQF) INDDNAME(TAPE) SPHERE OUTDD(DISK) Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ale Eba Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Transferring PDSE form one image to another I am transferring many SMPE environments of many subsystems such as DB2, IMS etc from one z/OS image to another. For each subsystem, I run ADRDSSU utility and include all SMP datasets to get one sequential dataset which I receive at the target system with FTP GET command. When I try to restore the dataset with RESTORE function of ADRDSSU everything works fine except PDSE datasets are not restored and the following messages are produced 0ADR405E (001)-DYNA (02), DYNAMIC ALLOCATION OF VOLUME DB2005 FAILED. ERROR CODE 0218. INFORMATION CODE . 0ADR380E (001)-FRLBO(60), DATA SET DB2.SMPE.V810.ADSNLOAD NOT PROCESSED, 29 Will some on point me to the right direction to resolve this problem. The control cards that I used for ADRDSSU are : //INDA DD DISP=OLD,DSN=DB2.SMPE.V810.COPY1 //SYSINDD * RESTORE INDD(INDA) - DATASET(INC(**)) /* Thanks Ale Eba - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PR/SM -- WLM Capping
Shane: I appreciate the reference and have now read portions dealing with capping. It just never quite got to the point of telling for certain how PR/SM cuts off service, but it hints at it being a non-dispatch of an LCP by a real CP. I was not surprised by capping extending into lunch. What did surprise me was that, when we seemed to need but 3 of the 5 engines (60% busy) to do the work during lunch time, capping degraded online response time tremendously. The question is, why, since it was not necessary? My only guess, since for the present I have no definitive answers on this point, is that zOS has no idea that his LCPs are not being dispatched for minutes to hours at a time, and he keeps on sending work to his 5 logical CPs while only 3-4 of them are getting any dispatching. OK, perhaps all 5 get it eventually, and within a second or so at that, but obviously this has the effect of significantly slowing down a given logical engine's effective service rate. Now if PR/SM told zOS to not dispatch work on a CP (as if it had been varied offline), then the remaining four in our 5-CP box could be dispatched at full speed and we would be 75% busy; if 2 offline, then 100% busy on just three engines. And response time should have not suffered as WLM would have batch wait for online transactions. And mathematically, PR/SM would still have accomplished his goal of getting the 4HRA back to earth. Running on many effectively slower engines rather than fewer same-speed engines is not usually a performance boost. WSC LPAR setup information tells us to not over-commit CPs to an LPAR as the many engines will too often not be running if the LPAR has insufficient weight. During capping, I suspect that the LPAR effectively looses some of its weight, the LCPs do not get dispatched, and transaction response times elongate as LCPs have no dispatched CP, while an SDSF screen looking from inside that same LPAR is reporting 50-70% busy. Thanks, Rick Confidentiality Notice: This email is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential, proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, review, dissemination, copying or action taken based on this message or its attachments, if any, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy or delete all copies of the original message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PR/SM -- WLM Capping
Rick -- You're really off here. PR/SM does not suspend logical processors for minutes to hours at a time. As Jim Mulder wrote Wednesday, it just does not work that way. The suspension of the processor is a short duration. The time-slicing generally dynamic and all the logical engines get an equal share of an LPAR's allocation. This is not new since your 2064 it has always worked this way (back to the 3090 where PR/SM was introduced). The premise of your question is wrong, so it's hard to answer the question. You attributed some past performance problems being due to this issue, but that is not correct either. There is or was another cause of your performance problems. Regards, Al Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning, WLC, LPARs, IRD and LCS Software Seminars on IBM SW Pricing, LPARs, and IRD Voice: +1 414 332-3062 Web: www.sherkow.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Transferring PDSE form one image to another
Thanks everyone for the help. The problem is with the ACS routine. I had to code BYPASSACS and added STORCALS and DATACLAS manually. After that it worked fine. Ale Eba - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Free C Compiler
Timothy Sipples wrote: Thinking out loud some more, it seems much of the service could be done via convenient e-mail. You'd send an e-mail with a file attachment (in common formats like .zip, .tar, .tar.gz) containing your source code, make file, etc. You'd send the e-mail to something like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Timothy, Kinda been-there/done-that - see http://www.dignus.com/testdrive.shtml It's not the entire compile step (you see the assembly source, don't get an object) - but it's a nice proof-of-concept. And, to do some late friday-afternoon horn tooting Regarding the idea of using WDz - The Dignus compilers integrate well into that Eclipse-based environment, even supporting the IBM 'events file'. So, after the compile or assembly, the eclipse editor jumps to the lines with any messages, etc... And - Dignus supports IBM compatibility; so if you wanted to build those GNU utilities on say, your Linux platform using Dignus as a cross-compiler, we can handle that... and you wind up still using the IBM runtime (or, of course, you could use our runtime if you prefer - and be non-LE.) - Dave Rivers - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]Work: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe programming tools at http://www.dignus.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: flushing the ARP cache....
In a message dated 6/15/2007 2:30:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did manage to find (by RTFm-ing:-) the PURGECACHE command, but as Chris notes, it is only for z/OS 1.4 and later. This site is stilling running OS/390 V2.10. Well, you could set ARCAGE to 1 via obeyfile and wait 60 seconds. Often times it was sufficient to simply flush the DNS cache by doing obeyfile to the GATEWAY. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: flushing the ARP cache....
In a message dated 6/15/2007 3:00:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ARCAGE to 1 via obeyfile and wait 60 seconds. Often Got fingers ahead of brain, ARPAGE(default 20). ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3270 IBMLINK
In a message dated 6/15/2007 2:12:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: because of routine maintenance? That's pretty typical of PFCSK's. It may be changing all the IP addresses and upgrading the switches, but it's routine! It wasn't just IBMLink BTW. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFSORT/ICETOOL question
On Jun 15, 6:19 am, oktg wrote: I wonder if anybody could help me out with following question: i want to use DFSORT/ICETOOL to convert a flat file (eg FB,80) having the following layout: +1+2+3 ** FL641 10JAN1993 VOL JFK FL642 11JAN1993 JFK VOL ** col 1-5: flightnumber col 7-15: flightdate col 17-19: departure station col 21-23: arrival station to an XML file having the following layout (eg, VB,255) ROW FLIGHTNRFL641/FLIGHTNR FLTDATE10JAN1993/FLTDATE DEPSTATVOL/DEPSTAT ARRSTATJFK/ARRSTAT /ROW ROW FLIGHTNRFL642/FLIGHTNR FLTDATE11JAN1993/FLTDATE DEPSTATJFK/DEPSTAT ARRSTATVOL/ARRSTAT /ROW so i need to map 1 input record to n output records Many thanks in advance Here's a DFSORT job that will do what you asked for: //S1EXEC PGM=ICEMAN //SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=* //SORTIN DD DSN=... input file (FB/23) //SORTOUT DD LRECL=255,DSN=... output file (VB/255) //SYSINDD* OPTION COPY OUTFIL FTOV,BUILD=(C'ROW',/, C'FLIGHTNR',1,5,C'/FLIGHTNR',/, C'FLTDATE',7,9,C'/FLTDATE',/, C'DEPSTAT',17,3,C'/DEPSTAT',/, C'ARRSTAT',21,3,C'/ARRSTAT',/, C'/ROW') /* Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Specialties: PARSE, JFY, SQZ, ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DR and JES check point question
Hi Andy, We use synchronous PPRC on a HDS9980V and synchronous SRDF on a EMC DMX200 unit. We previously ( June 1998 to October 2004 ) had used XRC to a site about 900 'cable miles' away. One of the 'operational issues' we had to deal with was the fact that XRC being asynchronous might cause our D/R solution to be seconds to possibly a minute or more 'behind' the 'write activity' of the production site. We didn't XRC the JES2 Checkpoint/Spool volumes at that time ( our PPRC/SRDF solution does now ) so that wasn't an issue. The thing I liked about XRC was the 'time consistency' of the data, even across multiple storage subsystems ( we had 4 HDS 7700E's, 1 HDS9960 1 HDS9980V ). So, XRC will make sure that the data is written to the XRC Secondary DASD volumes in the same exact order they were written to the XRC Primary DASD volumes. The question becomes: How does JES2 react during startup when it attempts to access the primary CF resident Checkpoint dataset and that attempt fails? Have you tried that failure scenario at your primary site on a 'sandbox' z/OS system? For example, while JES2 is running at the primary site, SYSTEM RESET CLEAR the z/OS image AND SYSTEM RESET CLEAR the CF LPAR that contains the primary checkpoint ( simulates a site failure at the primary site ). Then IPL z/OS and restart JES2, see what messages/WTORs JES2 issues. HTH Glenn Miller -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Fatal Flaw in Space station Computers-The Americans did it! ABCNEWS
On Jun 15, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 6/15/2007 9:43:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: out what was going on. Turned out the telephone people in NYC didn't put shielding on the T1 lines so every time the elevator would go by we lost our lines. Did you see the other side bar- receiving ISS video on baby monitor? _http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3277938_ (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3277938) No ... our people out there were less than trained. It was a remote local location. We had CPU's tape dasd modems there. The people were holdovers from decades past. I wasn't responsible for training of the people. That was a group that more or less worked for another group. At times it was frustrating as I could not turn the issue over to our network people as the 3745 box was throwing out the errors. The only option I had was running traces and it never seemed to hit when the traces were running. The remote scope like I said no one was trained. We were a medium size corporation but the politics were something else. It was really bad out in NYC as the TP people had two bosse one in Chicago and one in NYC. The NYC people ruled he roost. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple Copying Program
Hi Dave, If all of the CA7 datasets you need copied are on the same DASD volume, then something like IBM Flashcopy volume , EMC Snapshot copy volume, HDS Shadowimage volume or STK Snapshot copy volume may work. You could also PPRC the volume within the same DASD subsystem without needing any 'wires' between multiple DASD subsystems. You would still need to 'post process' the target DASD volume because the dataset names will be same as the source DASD volume ( maybe thats good, maybe not, depends on what you want to do with those datasets ). If the CA7 datasets resides on two or more DASD volumes, that is where it gets a little tricky. XRC can give you that multiple volume consistency. It is possible ( and supported ) to XRC within the same datacenter and within the same DASD subsystem. Your DASD subsystem must have the XRC feature activated, each vendor has their own method for providing XRC support. The z/OS setup for XRC is not that difficult because the System Data Mover ( address space: ANTMAIN ) is always running. However, if you have z/OS R7, then you may want to take a look at section: 5.1.5 FlashCopy Consistency Groups in the manual: z/OS V1R7.0 DFSMS Advanced Copy Services. All of the above assumes that the reason you need the 'parallel' copy of these datasets is because you do not want to quiesce the application ( CA7 ) that owns these datasets. HTH Glenn Miller -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFHSM-ABARS
Willie, I hope that you have solved your issue as of this writing. In the future proving more details would be helpful. Items such as Address space status (LW, NS, IN, OUT), on what SDSF screen DA, IF DA what is the CPU (% or accumulated time). What does RMFIII say for delays? Resource contention (ENQ/RES)? going for a while (9 hours). are totals increasing other than elapsed time? Kevin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DFHSM-ABARS Good Day, I have submitted 5 ABARS recovery jobs to execute but when I check on SDSF it only shows 1 job which has been going for a while (9 hours). I did a query active on DFHSM and it only shows me that request as well. Is there a reason that the 5 jobs are stuck? DFHSM is set to execute 6 tasks. Any suggestions would be gladly welcomed. Thanks. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RACF DELDSD command with non-standard char x'FD'
So, somehow, back in the dark ages, someone created a RACF dataset rule with a non-alphanumeric non-national char in it. In this case X'FD' and it looks like this : QCAML.Ù So I just figured I would get rid of the thing... RIGHT TSO DELDSD 'QCAML.Ù' gets the following : IKJ56702I INVALID DATASET NAME, 'QCAML.:' Attempting to delete it from the ISPF panels gets Invalid DSN - qualifier So, anybody have the knack? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DFHSM ABARS
Kevin, I found that the job which triggers DFHSM to submit the aggregate restore abended on a wait time. For some unknown reason (still trying to find it) DFHSM did not acknowledge the command. I finally shutdown DFHSM, brought it up again and tried the restores which all worked. Seems that there was a glitch with DFHSM. I checked the output of it but nothing seems out of the ordinary. Below is the abend: 23.29.46 JOB00728 THURSDAY, 14 JUN 2007 23.29.46 JOB00728 IRR010I USERID SAWPWX ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB. 23.29.46 JOB00728 $JHJES131 TIME=1440 SPECIFIED ON JOBSTEP. IT HAS BEEN CHANGED 23.56.18 JOB00728 ICH70001I SASPWX LAST ACCESS AT 23:55:22 ON THURSDAY, JUNE 23.56.18 JOB00728 $HASP373 RW1 STARTED - INIT 27 - CLASS M - SYS C090 23.56.18 JOB00728 IEF403I RW1 - STARTED - TIME=23.56.18 00.25.51 JOB00728 FRIDAY,15 JUN 2007 00.25.51 JOB00728 JHSMF20I RW1 - EXCEEDED JOB WAIT TIME 00.25.51 JOB00728 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 761 761 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=522 761 TIME=00.25.51 SEQ=00768 CPU= ASID=0051 761 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 471C1000 86838310 ILC 2 INTC 01 761ACTIVE LOAD MODULE ADDRESS=06832000 OFFSET= 761NAME=IKJEFT01 761DATA AT PSW 0683830A - C4901311 0A0145E0 2BBE9180 761AR/GR 0: /0001 1: /FF84E168 761 2: /86837768 3: /06838767 - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E, IEBUPDTE, and SuperC (was: CA-1 install - user exits?)
On Jun 15, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Mark H. Young wrote: ---SNIP- I think the *operative* words here are: Corporate Executives They just want systems programmers to make *LESS* money, so their companies can make bigger profits and themselves get bigger bonuses. Especially in the contracting / consulting business, be it Fed Gov't, *any* gov't, etc. They don't want to pay us for our experience and expertise. Just pay themselves the *BIG$$$* bucks. Sad but probably true... Except for Service Bureaus or Time Shares. (Gee, do they still exist?) True I have not heard about any in several years... if I were guessing they probably have second lives as DR type companies. And with ServerPac, what you end up with are non-systems programmers, or folks who work in DP/APPL/OPER/IT/IS (take your pick), who've just been promoted and are still making peanuts$$. Again, bottom line here. Then those *Maroons* get an error and call someone. Then the fun starts, ay?! And thus, you have the *dumbing down* scenario. Yea I ran into a scenerio with the servpac support was in Germany. I was less than happy with support I got (this was 10 years ago maybe its improved since then). I have talked about detail on here before and I won't rehash it again. But I thought to myself my if this call was handled this way with a long time sysprog how would it have been received by a newbie. IBM support is either really good or really bad generally its at least OK. OEM vendors tend to be really bad or sometime excellent (like Innovation) but since INNOVATION is the exception, IMO, they probably shouldn't be in any average since it throws the average out of skew. On another product about 5 years ago (out of Germany I believe as well) the vendor support was really below par. Of course we found out before purchasing their product and stopped the purchase. Ed Just my 2-cents worth. .mhyI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF DELDSD command with non-standard char x'FD'
I've seen this before. A shop I was working with had created a home grown RACF administration system written in assembler and driven by IDMS. The assembler programs accepted non-standard characters so if you attempted do do things like LU * the command would only process up to the point where a non-standard character was found. The system was eventually dismantled but only after using it to feret out and delete all of the offending instances. Standard RACF commands will not allow you to issue defines like what you are seeing. If there is, or ever was a system such as the one I described in your shop, you should try to use it to back out the profile. If not, then you must have some sort of corruption. Try to walk the database by going generic searches to see if you hit other instances. This may not be an isolated bad profile. - Original Message - From: John Mattson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: RACF DELDSD command with non-standard char x'FD' So, somehow, back in the dark ages, someone created a RACF dataset rule with a non-alphanumeric non-national char in it. In this case X'FD' and it looks like this : QCAML.Ù So I just figured I would get rid of the thing... RIGHT TSO DELDSD 'QCAML.Ù' gets the following : IKJ56702I INVALID DATASET NAME, 'QCAML.:' Attempting to delete it from the ISPF panels gets Invalid DSN - qualifier So, anybody have the knack? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF DELDSD command with non-standard char x'FD'
To remove this type of RACF issue you can probably use the RACKILL utility that IBM has on their website http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/racf/goodies.html Lizette So, somehow, back in the dark ages, someone created a RACF dataset rule with a non-alphanumeric non-national char in it. In this case X'FD' and it looks like this : QCAML.Ù So I just figured I would get rid of the thing... RIGHT TSO DELDSD 'QCAML.Ù' gets the following : IKJ56702I INVALID DATASET NAME, 'QCAML.:' Attempting to delete it from the ISPF panels gets Invalid DSN - qualifier So, anybody have the knack? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RACF DELDSD command with non-standard char x'FD'
I've seen this many times int he past. That profile could be a result of EGN having been active (at some time) in the past and not active now. (xFD is special for '**' in certain places.) So, all you would need to do is turn EGN on for DATASET and you should be able to list it and delete it. Having EGN on is a personal preference thing, but I have noticed that at one point in time it seems to have been the default for a lot of shops and for some reason it became no longer a default at some later point and no one noticed, (until the error). If you turn EGN on for DATASET, delete the entry, and then turn it back off, all will be well. Brian Westerman Syzygy Incorporated -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PR/SM -- WLM Capping
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 14:47 -0500, Al Sherkow wrote: You're really off here... The premise of your question is wrong, so it's hard to answer the question. As Jim and Al have said, things don't work the way you postulated. In fact, to use the vernacular - you've got it arse about. When you get dispatched, you get 100% of an engine. When you a see a processor at (say) 60%, that is *NOT* the engine running at 60% - it is the processor running at 100% for 60% of the time. Extrapolate across all the (logical) engines in the LPAR. Plenty has been said in the past about the limitations of using averages based on a sampler, but it's what we have. When you see your LPAR (of say 5 engines) at 60%, it is *not* running on 60% of the engines. It is running on all 5 for 60% of the time. Effectively all 5 are running at 60%. This leads to short engines (do a search) - and is a likely cause of the performance impacts you are seeing. Presuming no IRD involvement - others will be able to say whether IRD is even definable for capped LPARs; I haven't looked. Whatever, don't blame WLM and the LPAR dispatcher - the cap was established as a business decision by your company. It may be that if your cap (and presumably target weight) resolve to approximately 60% of the CEC you'd be better off reducing the number of engines to ameliorate the short engine effect when capping is enforced. If the cap is just too tight for the work to get through, swallow hard and make a (business) decision. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
