Re: 2097?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:09:22 -0600, Tom Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many of you have heard of an IBM z9 model number 2097? It shows up as a z/HE in a CPU display (D M=CPU). The ZHE is the CPC (or processor name) which you define via the HCD so unless you did this then it could well be the factory default. Seb. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VLF - What's in your VLF
Van Dalsen, Herbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Kees, Two questions there, 1. CLASS NAME(PR*)IBM Data Propagators. Is mainly for IMS ? 2. We only have CA-ENDEVOR... a bit of a waste to run CAS9 just for one product, Not sure if CLASS NAME(CAENFU) CAIENF/USS cache. Will make that much difference to us. Regards Herbie Herbie, 1. Yes, IMS to DB2. 2. I don't know what it is used for, I did not install the products. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PR: The Future Runs on ?????? ? Events in North America
On the other hand, there's a joint GSE - IBM event in Brussels and one item on the agenda is : 'System z ´the future runs on System z´' I must admit, this sounds not so spectacular or Extraordinary New'. cf. https://www-926.ibm.com/events/wwe/swgp/swgpbe.nsf/agenda?openformseminar=kwoDDEDDHESlang=en Marc Wambeke Systems Architect Dolmen CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mainframe-watch-belgium.blogspot.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Define more than 100 Consoles in a Plex
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:49:51 -0500, Lizette Koehler wrote: Is there a way to define more than 100 consoles in a SYSPLEX? You could try SNACONS. Its consoles do not count towards the 99 console limit. See http://www.snacons.com where you can even download a free edition. Regards, Roger Bowler SNACONS developer http://perso.wanadoo.fr/rbowler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ISMF split second question
Hello, I reorganized my VIO Storage Groups, deleted the old SGs, added 2 new SGs and changed the ACS SG routine to route VIO datasets to the new VIO SGs. The question is: what happens when I activate the new configuration. Is it possible that the new ACS routines are activated a few milliseconds before the new SG definitions or visa versa? If so, the ACS routine can route datasets to the old SGs, which are already invalidated, or route them to the new SGs, which have not been activated yet. Or is this fully synchronized and safe to do? Thanks, Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISMF split second question
Kees, I don't want to sound silly, but why would you need more than one VIO Storage Group in the first place? Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] ISMF split second question Hello, I reorganized my VIO Storage Groups, deleted the old SGs, added 2 new SGs and changed the ACS SG routine to route VIO datasets to the new VIO SGs. The question is: what happens when I activate the new configuration. Is it possible that the new ACS routines are activated a few milliseconds before the new SG definitions or visa versa? If so, the ACS routine can route datasets to the old SGs, which are already invalidated, or route them to the new SGs, which have not been activated yet. Or is this fully synchronized and safe to do? Thanks, Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF
Gerry, That is the actual LPAR percent busy. The first number is calculated as the compliment of CPU wait time and patently wrong. A large difference between the two means can indicate that that LPAR is starving for CPU. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Anstey Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] SDSF All, in the DA display for SDSF what is the figure in the heading after the CPU ? eg SDSF DA FMVS BMVS PAG0 CPU/L72/ 42 LINE 1-1 (1) the 42 in the above example. thanks Gerry PS I would have searched the archives but I'm having trouble logging on at the moment. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS V1R9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] panel
Mark, We are running with a customized [EMAIL PROTECTED] that has 15 option lines that was built from some previous release and it still works under V1R9. I did a SUPERC of the modified one against the V1R9 version and differences appeared to be minor. I did not see anything that should prevent you from getting those 17 lines, but then again, I haven't seen the guts of your panel. Also, you may want to cross post this to ISPF-L. Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS V1R9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] panel When I tried to update the [EMAIL PROTECTED] panel and customize it to our display I am only able to get 13 option lines: 0 Settings Terminal and user parameters 1 View Display source data or listings 2 Edit Create or change source data 3 Utilities Perform utility functions ... The previous release (z/OS V1R7) I was able to display 17 option lines: I have looked in the ISPF Planning Customizing manual and can't figure out what I need to update. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF
Gerry Anstey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com... All, in the DA display for SDSF what is the figure in the heading after the CPU ? eg SDSF DA FMVS BMVS PAG0 CPU/L72/ 42 LINE 1-1 (1) the 42 in the above example. thanks Gerry Try the PF1 key for a change: Option: 4 - Fields on the DA panel CPU/L/Z/ 26/ 26/ | | | | Percentage of time the CPU is busy, MVS, LPAR and zAAP views Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF
Thanks I did do F1 and read what you have helpfully reproduced but it did not make me any the wiser. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
The company I was previously associated with received one of these boxes in mid December as part of an early support program. I saw very few documents regarding this machine but it was listed as ZHE. It is supposedly the next generation of IBM mainframe. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF
Thanks Ron, can you elaborate on the first figure,are you saying it is fairly meaningless? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF
I believe that the numbers are statistical averages from the last time you hit enter in the SDSF DA screen. Not sure if they are similar to what you would see in the RMF Monitor or not. They do represent the CPU Utilization. I think if demand paging is low then it is how much of the Processor that LPAR is getting. If you have it capped, I think that also will have a play in it. IIRC. Lizette All, in the DA display for SDSF what is the figure in the heading after the CPU ? eg SDSF DA FMVS BMVS PAG0 CPU/L72/ 42 LINE 1-1 (1) the 42 in the above example. thanks Gerry Try the PF1 key for a change: Option: 4 - Fields on the DA panel CPU/L/Z/ 26/ 26/ | | | | Percentage of time the CPU is busy, MVS, LPAR and zAAP views -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
Rick, The member had already 2,304 lines in it. I have allocated a larger pds and it seemed to have worked. Just scratching my head as to why when I ran the compress batch job it didn't do anything, leaving the allocated extents at 16. Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo To all A batch job abended on a IEC032I E37-04. The job was trying to write out to a member in a PDS library. I checked the status of the library and it showed that it had the following allocation: Current Allocation Allocated tracks . : 5,000 Allocated extents . : 16 Maximum dir. blocks : 400 Current Utilization Used tracks . . . . : 958 Used extents . . . : 1 Used dir. blocks . : 25 Number of members . : 425 I executed a compress (via batch successfully). However, when I perform an I it shows the same statistics. Is there something else that I am supposed to do even though I compressed the library? Thanks in advance for your replies to my post. -- How big is the member you're trying to write into the PDS? Try writing it to a BIG sequential file, just to get a size value. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pat Mihalec I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? Not at all. You'll continue to pay either directly (like annual automobile registration fees) or indirectly (like fuel taxes built-in to the selling price), but you WILL have to pay, or stop using the software. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Rick, The member had already 2,304 lines in it. I have allocated a larger pds and it seemed to have worked. Just scratching my head as to why when I ran the compress batch job it didn't do anything, leaving the allocated extents at 16. John, Compress only compresses the data in the dataset, moves data to the front and leaves all free space at the end. It does not change the size of the dataset. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
Besides re-allocating the dsn what else should I do to I tackle this problem? Current Allocation Allocated tracks . : 5,000 Allocated extents . : 16 Maximum dir. blocks : 400 Current Utilization Used tracks . . . . : 1,643 Used extents . . . : 3 Used dir. blocks . : 25 Number of members . : 425 Am I intepreting something wrong? It shows that the dsn was using 1,643 tracks even though it allocated 5,000 trakcs. How should I fix the discrepancy between the Current Allocation and Current Utilization Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Dawes wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Rick, The member had already 2,304 lines in it. I have allocated a larger pds and it seemed to have worked. Just scratching my head as to why when I ran the compress batch job it didn't do anything, leaving the allocated extents at 16. John, Compress only compresses the data in the dataset, moves data to the front and leaves all free space at the end. It does not change the size of the dataset. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
John, How often do you update it? If quite a lot, leave it alone. If once a year, reduce it. Same thing applies to the # of directory blocks. If you aren't going to add a lot of new members, drop the 400 down to 30-50. Also, get PDS 8.6 as I suggested. You won't regret it. Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION Besides re-allocating the dsn what else should I do to I tackle this problem? Current Allocation Allocated tracks . : 5,000 Allocated extents . : 16 Maximum dir. blocks : 400 Current Utilization Used tracks . . . . : 1,643 Used extents . . . : 3 Used dir. blocks . : 25 Number of members . : 425 Am I intepreting something wrong? It shows that the dsn was using 1,643 tracks even though it allocated 5,000 trakcs. How should I fix the discrepancy between the Current Allocation and Current Utilization -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Besides re-allocating the dsn what else should I do to I tackle this problem? Current Allocation Allocated tracks . : 5,000 Allocated extents . : 16 Maximum dir. blocks : 400 Current Utilization Used tracks . . . . : 1,643 Used extents . . . : 3 Used dir. blocks . : 25 Number of members . : 425 Am I intepreting something wrong? It shows that the dsn was using 1,643 tracks even though it allocated 5,000 trakcs. How should I fix the discrepancy between the Current Allocation and Current Utilization John, I don't understand your question: what do you want to fix? The dataset has allocated 5000 tracks, 1643 tracks used and 3347 tracks free for you to write into. If you need to write more, the dataset needs to extend, but it cannot because it already has 16 extents and a PDS cannot go multivolume. Therefor you need to allocate a larger dataset. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
-snip--- Also, get PDS 8.6 as I suggested. You won't regret it. -unsnip BIG AMEN to that, too. I consider it to be the most useful Systems Programming tool on the entire CBT site! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
-snip The member had already 2,304 lines in it. I have allocated a larger pds and it seemed to have worked. Just scratching my head as to why when I ran the compress batch job it didn't do anything, leaving the allocated extents at 16. ---unsnip- 1. IEBCOPY simple compress will not release unused extents. Look at the number of used extents. To release empty extents, try using ISPF 3.4. 2. Is the program writing the report multiple times? That would account for the difference between PS dataset and PDS member sizes. When a sequential file is re-opened, it starts back at the beginning; but a new PDS member starts at the end of the last member. And since in this situation you would have the same member name, you might have multiple copies of the report and the directory pointer would indicate only the last occurence. Just for grins, try writing the report to SYSOUT and see how many copies you get. I've seen this behaviour before, when the programmer (improperly) PERFORMed the reporting paragraph(s) from within a loop. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
-snip-- Besides re-allocating the dsn what else should I do to I tackle this problem? Current Allocation Allocated tracks . : 5,000 Allocated extents . : 16 Maximum dir. blocks : 400 Current Utilization Used tracks . . . . : 1,643 Used extents . . . : 3 Used dir. blocks . : 25 Number of members . : 425 Am I intepreting something wrong? It shows that the dsn was using 1,643 tracks even though it allocated 5,000 trakcs. How should I fix the discrepancy between the Current Allocation and Current Utilization ---unsnip- Why do you consider it a discrepancy? Lots of PDS's have some unused space; taking another extent is an expensive process, even with SMS management. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.
McKown, John wrote: [snip] I don't look for zAAP information on anything. The mainframe is going away is the mantra and nothing that I have done in the past can even get the attention of management. They simply don't seem to want to be bothered with the System z in any manner. John, I was going through some of my old emails the other day and I noticed you writing the mainframe is dying is the motto around here on July 22, 2005. So it seems to be taking its own sweet time. Is this the kind of situation Stephen Y Odo writes about? He's in the 18th year of a five year plan to get rid of the mainframe. Maybe someone in your management might be amenable to recognizing that the reality is the mainframe is not going away at UICI Insurance Center. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS system programmer staffing
snip--- It all depends what your structure is. If it was me and I was say the head of IT where you are, I would appoint the team-lead sysprog( someone with all the credentials) first, and let him select his team... I have seen it many times, and this would be the best recipe. It would not pay him to get someone below him that he would not be able to rely on, on cannot work with. -unsnip- We did it that way at Clearing for many years; both the manager and I would interview prospects. Only when management decided that my participation was unnecessary did the atmosphere change. New people with different work styles can sometimes lead to friction and that's never a good thing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS system programmer staffing
That is just my point, Once you are happy that the Lead has the 'work styles' ethics that you want, that is it! He will make sure that that is carried forward/maintained. I think sometimes 'management' perceives the standards that will be set by the 'lead' to be to restrictive, and that they struggle to fill the positions, but forget about the consequences if they disregard his 'lead'. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: 13 Februarie 2008 02:54 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing snip--- It all depends what your structure is. If it was me and I was say the head of IT where you are, I would appoint the team-lead sysprog( someone with all the credentials) first, and let him select his team... I have seen it many times, and this would be the best recipe. It would not pay him to get someone below him that he would not be able to rely on, on cannot work with. -unsnip- We did it that way at Clearing for many years; both the manager and I would interview prospects. Only when management decided that my participation was unnecessary did the atmosphere change. New people with different work styles can sometimes lead to friction and that's never a good thing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. John, when you zip a file using the jar command, do you see any zAAP eligible workload? Just curious. Although the jar command is part of the Java runtime, I'm not sure whether jar sends anything to the zAAP. - - - - - Timothy Sipples I don't look for zAAP information on anything. The mainframe is going away is the mantra and nothing that I have done in the past can even get the attention of management. They simply don't seem to want to be bothered with the System z in any manner. If I had a zAAP, I would likely write my own Java program to do the zipping. That way, I could use JZOS's ZFile to read and write legacy datasets directly. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Attaching tasks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Being bored, I am indulging in a bit of a mental exercise. I want to ATTACH a total of 20 tasks. Which is best: 1: Determine number or CPUs in LPAR, fire off that many at clip until all 20 tasks are exhaused. 2: Scream 'Banzai', and fire off all 20, IE shooting the rapids. Thanks We have WLM to manage the hundreds or thousands of tasks in a system, don't try to help or correct him. Unless they all run at SYSTEM or SYSSTC, I'd say: kick them all in. And don't scream 'Banzai' unless you fire 200 or more or WLM will laugh at you ( 'Listen how we stampede' said the mouse to the elephant when they crossed the bridge toghther). Kees. P.S. this newsgroup is a mirror of a listserver, use that to reach the larger part of the population. See the automagically attached info below. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMCS Console Question
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:20:09 -0800, George Fogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's how MCS/SMCS console command authority works for the V CN(SMCS6001),LOGON=OPTIONAL) command were talking about. 1.) I can issue this VARY from any MCS or SMCS console that I *didn't* logon to (LOGON=OPTIONAL) if AUTH=MASTER is defined in the CONSOLxx parmlib member for the console(s) because the OPERCMDS class check is bypassed, even if the OPERCMDS class is active. RULE: If I'm not logged on to a MCS/SMCS console then basically,no OPERCMDS class checking. If you're worried about that exposure, though, why would you have any consoles defined with LOGON(OPTIONAL)? I would expect you to use LOGON(AUTOMATIC), and make sure that the auto-logged on ID (the console name) does not have authority to issue that VARY command. Thanks for providing the explanations, by the way. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Two COBOL questions
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Ross Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Two COBOL questions I think you have a bug in your call to CEEENV. You have: call 'ceeenv' using update-req, six, file-name, val-length, val-ptr, fc call 'ceeenv' using update-req, six, file-name, val-length, env-val, fc John, Steve is right, his example is correct and yours is not. LE wants an address of an address of the env var value. The LE books says the environment name should also be an address of an address but the books are wrong. I will get them fixed. I was just coding calls to CEEENV to update my SHARE presentation 'Got COBOL' yesterday and running tests on this very service! Cheers, TomR COBOL is the Language of the Future! Thanks. I guess I trust the manuals too much. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
Oh---Only knows Windows Ummman---would really love to comment on this one...lol...but may cause a stir ... -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
I have allocated a larger pds and it seemed to have worked. Just scratching my head as to why when I ran the compress batch job it didn't do anything, leaving the allocated extents at 16. Compress does not release unused space. You need to free it with a utility. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
Do you have a link for that report? No, but their main site is www.linuxformat.co.uk, I still like to have the paper in my hand and I can always go back to an old article as long as my attic still has space... Search for IBM and Sun snuggle up or Solaris hits big blue's mainframes shocker! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 13 Februarie 2008 04:17 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Herbie, Do you have a link for that report? snip I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. McKown, John wrote: [snip] I don't look for zAAP information on anything. The mainframe is going away is the mantra and nothing that I have done in the past can even get the attention of management. They simply don't seem to want to be bothered with the System z in any manner. John, I was going through some of my old emails the other day and I noticed you writing the mainframe is dying is the motto around here on July 22, 2005. So it seems to be taking its own sweet time. Is this the kind of situation Stephen Y Odo writes about? He's in the 18th year of a five year plan to get rid of the mainframe. Too true. In fact, the mainframe stayed and management went away (was allowed to persue other interests or some such HR-speak). But the motto has stayed. Maybe someone in your management might be amenable to recognizing that the reality is the mainframe is not going away at UICI Insurance Center. The current management still says that it is going away (despite the fact that the workload is growing). They base this on the plan to replace the mainframe software with COTS software running on other platforms such as Linux (Windows is now considered to be also ran around here). They just haven't really found the COTS software that they need yet. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
With us that stuff is all spelled out in the contract. No surprises later. How can an IT director have only Windows experience? Does that mean my mother could be an IT director? : ) Dave Thorn * Senior Technology Analyst * SunGard Computer Services * 600 Laurel Oak Road, Voorhees, NJ, 08043 Tel 856 566-5412 * Mobile 609 781-0353 * Fax 856 566-3656 CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing Better to check the agreement very thoroughly. I would want to know, before signing, what is covered *after* the contract has been signed. You might be surprised at what you'll be paying for a few weeks down the road after the contract has been signed and you need *x* to be investigated, solved, implemented, upgraded, etc... for you by the outsourcer. I'm willing to bet that a lot of companies get hit with hidden fee's down the line where it becomes evident that outsourcing is ending up costing more that was originally thought. Pat Mihalec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current director. He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. He thinks that if you move to the outsourcer system you no longer pay the fees. It comes as a shock to him. I suggested he ask the outsourcer directly about this. Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
Better to check the agreement very thoroughly. I would want to know, before signing, what is covered *after* the contract has been signed. You might be surprised at what you'll be paying for a few weeks down the road after the contract has been signed and you need *x* to be investigated, solved, implemented, upgraded, etc... for you by the outsourcer. I'm willing to bet that a lot of companies get hit with hidden fee's down the line where it becomes evident that outsourcing is ending up costing more that was originally thought. Pat Mihalec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current director. He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. He thinks that if you move to the outsourcer system you no longer pay the fees. It comes as a shock to him. I suggested he ask the outsourcer directly about this. Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
If you aren't going to add a lot of new members, drop the 400 down to 30-50. There are 44 directory blocks per track. They are all formatted, but only the number you specify are addrressible. Also, I wouldn't worry about having 400. It takes less than 10 tracks. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current director. He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. He thinks that if you move to the outsourcer system you no longer pay the fees. It comes as a shock to him. I suggested he ask the outsourcer directly about this. Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/12/2008 04:43 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Question on Out Sourcing I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? Of course the licence still has to be paid for. You can either transfer it to the service provider, or continue paying it yourself. If you've transfered, it will be buried in your service fees. It's not free. A certain large ISV wanted to charge us 10 times the annual rate to transfer the licence to our out-sourcer. They did this because the out-sourcer had a fully funded (and approved) initiative to replace all the products they supplied with any other equivalent. The ISV was/is not popular. They decided they'd rather gouge us one more time because they were going to lose us, if they transfered the licence. (You can probably figure out which ISV) But, the bottom line is maintenance is not going to go away, regardless of who pays for it (directly, or indirectly). - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PR: Almost Introducing the Extraordinary New XXXXX
Ed Finnell wrote: I thought it was verboten to have announcements during SHARE? I can recall several major software announcements that coincided with SHARE. However, mainframe hardware announcements usually come in the Fall after SHARE is over. If this is a hardware announcement, the timing is unusual. And, SHARE attendees would be the first to hear it! They might even be the first to *see* it! If I were IBM, planning to announce a new-generation, 21st-century processor at SHARE, I would wheel a couple of them onto the floor of the SHARE Technology Exchange! Excuse me, Sir. The line forms at the back. 8-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS system programmer staffing
It all depends what your structure is. If it was me and I was say the head of IT where you are, I would appoint the team-lead sysprog( someone with all the credentials) first, and let him select his team... I have seen it many times, and this would be the best recipe. It would not pay him to get someone below him that he would not be able to rely on, on cannot work with. Herbie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: 12 Februarie 2008 09:30 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing What would all of you consider a senior level systems programmer (how many years of experience) ? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Alequin Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing Here is my opinion on Z/OS system programer staffing. When I decided to start looking for a new JOB in the mainframe world, I found that many companies were looking for System Programmer Gods that knew about everything. This surprised me because I had enough work only working with implementation of OPC Scheduler, now known as TWS and other products installations. After that I started getting also the responsibility of OS390 - Z/OS installations, SMS, DFHSM implementation and Disaster Recovery Planing and execution. Right know I am one of the youngest System Programmer in my actual job. I decided to stay in the mainframe world even thou people said that mainframe was dying, but it has been difficult for me to find an attractive job in the US. Everything is contracts and that is not paying as much as it used to. The people that have been in this field a long time know what I am talking about. Besides when people see in my resume that I am currently living and working in Puerto Rico don't pay that much attention. A lot of people that gratuated with me are just foucused and oriented to open systems. Now I am just wondering if I should have decided to work in Open Systems. Anyway I could keep on writing but I'll start bouring people. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
z9 EC has modes S08, S18 etc but the machine type is always 2094 z9 BC has models R07 and S07, machine type is always 2096 so every z9 EC reports 2094 and every z9BC reports 2096 Then you have capacity settings, like 508, 715, 754 etc for z9 EC and like A01, Q03 etc for z9 BC. They are also reported in D M=CPU Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMCS Console Question
George Fogg wrote: Well, not quite true Ed. However, I do agree with you that ... Also, I didn't mentioned the fact that ... Here's how MCS/SMCS console command authority works ... [Lots of text snipped] George, What I was trying to say was just this simple: Assume all user-accessible EMCS consoles are protected by logon, ensure all SMCS consoles are defined with LOGON(REQUIRED), and deny access to MVS.VARYLOGON.CN. Then, the only consoles capable of changing the LOGON requirement for other consoles will be standard MCS consoles that are not logged on -- which, if any exist, are (or ought to be) located in a secure area. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
Ron, Why would the z/9 or z/6 not make a perfect Windows terminal server... It is stable and all the rest... I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. Who would have thought the day would come that that would be possible... 10 years ago, certainly not me. Regards Herbie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wells Sent: 13 Februarie 2008 04:01 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing Oh---Only knows Windows Ummman---would really love to comment on this one...lol...but may cause a stir ... -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
Herbie, Do you have a link for that report? snip I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Mihalec Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current director. He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. He thinks that if you move to the outsourcer system you no longer pay the fees. It comes as a shock to him. I suggested he ask the outsourcer directly about this. SNIP To quote a friend of mine and former co-worker, a nickle's worth of free advice: Since your director has no experience with large data centers [that is what the statement He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. means, isn't it?], make sure that your contract requires the outsourcing company to cover the costs of your moving back to the facility where you came from should they breach the contract, or not be able to fulfill the contract satisfactorily. This suggestion was followed by a certain ISV some years ago when a certain outsourcer promised them all kinds of things (such as APF libraries they would need for continued development, a test environment to validate their changes, etc.). The outsourcer failed to deliver, and had to cover their costs to move back to the environment where they had been. While this may seem a bit trivial, to move back to where you came from, if you are into this outsourcing agreement by 90 days, and you have gotten rid of equipment... Or your current environment is also an outsourcer and there is a penalty to be paid to get back into your old contract... Make sure you read the fine print and make sure you know what constitutes a breach, what can be done to fix or heal the breach, and what your costs can be for such things. The devil is in the details and while the sales people can make it sound all kinds of great, that phrase this is our standard contract or this is a standard phrase/clause is generally a RED FLAG if you were prompted to ask a question about it. Again, a nickle's worth of free advice. Regards, Steve Thompson -- All opinions expressed by me are my own and may not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
I understand from sources close to the port that it is indeed underway and should be sometime this year. Staller, Allan wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Do you have a link for that report? -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
Rich, I should probably not put this in because the Feb edition is not online to read yet(probably still selling in Eason's / W.H. Smith)... But the exact words of this article is this... IBM signaled another change in its relationship with Sun Microsystems by announcing the success of a project to port OpenSolaris to its mainframe for the first time. Later on in the article it says the following: James Stallings, general manager, IBM System z, said Solaris integration made perfect sense... The future of the data center lies in virtualization's ability to reduce skyrocketing energy and maintenance costs and more... Regards Herbie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: 13 Februarie 2008 04:51 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing I understand from sources close to the port that it is indeed underway and should be sometime this year. Staller, Allan wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Do you have a link for that report? -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Do you have a link for that report? No, but their main site is www.linuxformat.co.uk, I still like to have the paper in my hand and I can always go back to an old article as long as my attic still has space... Search for IBM and Sun snuggle up or Solaris hits big blue's mainframes shocker! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: 13 Februarie 2008 04:17 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Herbie, Do you have a link for that report? snip I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
Several years ago I was the data center for a very large Texas-based regional hospital (over 1K in beds) running on a 9672 (at the time). Our holding company owned another dozen or so small (50-75 bed) hospitals running on a client-server solution. The software running in the smaller hospitals was not Y2K compliant and time was running out so they contracted with Perot Systems to get it finished. An overly aggressive sales team got their foot in the door and promised a $100M in cost savings over the 10-year contract. Of course the executives jumped on the agreement and we all ended up being outsourced. The first year (and only year - I left afterward) after outsourcing the operational cost of the data center (not including software) doubled! In fact there has been ZERO cost savings as a result of the outsourcing if anything costs have been ~ 50% higher. I am sure that in certain circumstances economies of scale will prevail and cost saving can be realized. But, as was our case, when you have a streamlined operation with a limited, hardworking staff that's not always the case. Gary -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing Better to check the agreement very thoroughly. I would want to know, before signing, what is covered *after* the contract has been signed. You might be surprised at what you'll be paying for a few weeks down the road after the contract has been signed and you need *x* to be investigated, solved, implemented, upgraded, etc... for you by the outsourcer. I'm willing to bet that a lot of companies get hit with hidden fee's down the line where it becomes evident that outsourcing is ending up costing more that was originally thought. Pat Mihalec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current director. He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. He thinks that if you move to the outsourcer system you no longer pay the fees. It comes as a shock to him. I suggested he ask the outsourcer directly about this. Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
Certain times you can be added to the outsource company's MIPS/site license. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Out Sourcing I have a question on Out Sourcing. When you sign a contract does that mean you no longer have to pay for your software product maintenance licenses? Of course the licence still has to be paid for. You can either transfer it to the service provider, or continue paying it yourself. If you've transfered, it will be buried in your service fees. It's not free. A certain large ISV wanted to charge us 10 times the annual rate to transfer the licence to our out-sourcer. They did this because the out-sourcer had a fully funded (and approved) initiative to replace all the products they supplied with any other equivalent. The ISV was/is not popular. They decided they'd rather gouge us one more time because they were going to lose us, if they transfered the licence. (You can probably figure out which ISV) But, the bottom line is maintenance is not going to go away, regardless of who pays for it (directly, or indirectly). - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PR: Almost Introducing the Extraordinary New XXXXX
At SHARE in Orlando, MVSE Sessions 2832, 2833 and 2836 on Wednesday morning have abstracts which tend to make one think that IBM will be talking about something new. So, keep an eye on these slots. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM PR: Almost Introducing the Extraordinary New XXXXX
In a message dated 2/13/2008 10:09:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this is a hardware announcement, the timing is unusual. And, SHARE attendees would be the first to hear it! They might even be the first to *see* it! If I were IBM, planning to announce a new-generation, As previously mentioned...It's already out and running to the few privileged to have infrastructure and ties to IBM to participate in ESP. Guess my feeling is it's late and there have been a few surprises. **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
John Dawes wrote: Besides re-allocating the dsn what else should I do to I tackle this problem? Current Allocation Allocated tracks . : 5,000 Allocated extents . : 16 Maximum dir. blocks : 400 Current Utilization Used tracks . . . . : 1,643 Used extents . . . : 3 Used dir. blocks . : 25 Number of members . : 425 Am I intepreting something wrong? It shows that the dsn was using 1,643 tracks even though it allocated 5,000 trakcs. How should I fix the discrepancy between the Current Allocation and Current Utilization There is no discrepancy between Current Allocation and Current Utilization. This is MVS specific: allocated space does not mean used space. That's why we have both Current's. It's like fuel tank - sometimes it's half empty. However when filling up, it cannot obtain secondary extents g -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on Out Sourcing
In a word, YES. Dave Thorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/13/2008 11:17 AM With us that stuff is all spelled out in the contract. No surprises later. How can an IT director have only Windows experience? Does that mean my mother could be an IT director? : ) CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Cross Domain
I am looking for information on how to enable cross domain communications through an OSA T/R link. Normally, we would go CTC but don't have the channels available. Is there a REDBOOK or other source for this info. TIA, Martin /pre font size=2 face=Arial p This message and any attached documents contain information that may be confidential and/or privileged. The information herein may also be protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC Sections 2510-2521. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute, or use this information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message to include any attachments. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
Oops: David Boyes (I misspelled Mr Boyes name). Brian On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:15:41 -0600, Brian Peterson wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:13:28 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: (snip) I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. Who would have thought the day would come that that would be possible... 10 years ago, certainly not me. (snip) From November 2007here's a video of a show floor interview of David Boies demonstrating OpenSolaris running under z/VM. The video is in five parts - the below is a link to part 1, and then you can navigate to parts 2-5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH71qP-yDDIfeature=related Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Interesting Mainframe Article: 5 Myths Exposed
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1299376,00.html?track=NL-576ad=624866asrc=EM_NLN_3060935uid=1900046 Watch the wrap. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:13:28 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: (snip) I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. Who would have thought the day would come that that would be possible... 10 years ago, certainly not me. (snip) From November 2007here's a video of a show floor interview of David Boies demonstrating OpenSolaris running under z/VM. The video is in five parts - the below is a link to part 1, and then you can navigate to parts 2-5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH71qP-yDDIfeature=related Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/ 0,289483,sid80_gci1299376,00.html? track=NL-576ad=624867asrc=EM_NLN_3061007uid=6570353 Watch out for the wrap. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3590 stacking performance via JCL?
Kenaan Tabikh wrote: Is anyone aware of a JCL parameter that enhances 3590 tape stacking performance? Maybe something in DATACLAS? I was told about this but cannot find anything. Maybe DCB=OPTCD=? Thanks, Ken Tabikh Verizon Data Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Well, VOL=(,RETAIN) can tell the operating system to try and keep a volume mounted on a specific drive, if that's what you're thinking of. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3590 stacking performance via JCL?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenaan Tabikh Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 3590 stacking performance via JCL? Is anyone aware of a JCL parameter that enhances 3590 tape stacking performance? Maybe something in DATACLAS? I was told about this but cannot find anything. Maybe DCB=OPTCD=? Thanks, Ken Tabikh Verizon Data Services enhances? What does enhance mean in this context? The only thing that I know of is to use the RETAIN subparameter on the VOL parameter. That should keep the tape mounted on the drive (in most cases). It should also keep the tape positioned at the end of the last file written. This avoids the rewind / dismount / mount / forward-space-file operations, which can be very time consuming. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Interesting Mainframe Article: 5 Myths Exposed
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Green) writes: http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1299376,00.html?track=NL-576ad=624866asrc=EM_NLN_3060935uid=1900046 previous posting mentioning zNextGen program: http://www.garlic.com/2008c.html#45 Young mainframers' group gaims momentum can you say HONE? ... hands-on network experience ... misc. past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone before the 23jun69 unbundling announcements ... novice system engineers would get hands-on experience in customer accounts ... as part of larger team of SEs (with a variety of experience) ... sort of apprentice type program. after the 23jun69 unbundling announcements ... besides starting to charge for software ... SEs time at customer accounts were also charged for. The situation at the time couldn't come up with having apparentice SEs learning on the customer nickle. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#unbundle the initial solution was to put in some number of cp67 virtual machine systems ... and provide remote login access to SEs from branch offices. the science center had pioneered virtual machines systems in the mid-60s ... starting with cp40 (on specially modified 360/40 supporting virtual memory) which morphed into cp67 (when standard 360/67 machines with standard virtual memory support become available) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech the science center had also ported apl\360 to cms\apl. apl\360 installations had typically been limited to 16kbyte or 32kbyte workspaces. the cms\apl port opened up workspace size to full virtual memory (although parts of apl had to be reworked for virtual memory operation). The dramatically increased workspace size and some other features (added to cms\apl) ... allowed a lot more real-world applications to be done in apl. One instance was that corporate hdqtrs people loaded the most sensitive coporate information on to the cambridge system and ran remote business modeling applications from armonk. This also required a very high level of security since the cambridge system also had various non-employees from the area universities and colleges using the system. a little topic drift regarding the security issue: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.cfm another use of cms\apl was to deploy sales and marketing applications on the HONE systems, supporting branch office (other than SEs). Eventually these sales and marketing applications came to dominate all HONE activity ... to the exclusion of SE hands-on use. Before long, it was not even possible for customer machine orders to be submitted unless they had been preprocessed by some HONE application. for slightly other topic drift: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#17 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#23 more on (the new 40+ yr old) virtualization for other folklore topic drift ... starting in the late 70s, there was constant series of efforts to move HONE (sales marketing apl applications) off of vm370 and on to MVS. The cycle was approx. two years, a new executive would come in, discover to their horror that the corporation didn't actually run on MVS ... and mandate HONE be moved to a MVS platform. All work would stop for 6-9 months while everybody worked on attempting to move things over ... which would eventually fail miserably ... and then things would be back to almost normal for a short period until the next executive replacement. At one point in one of cycles in the early 80, one of the POK executives admonished the HONE organization that a MVS port would easily be possible if they would just rewrite all the APL applications in assembler. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP
Just use 192.168.a.b(c,d,) the 192.168 packets never leave the CEC. Once I get the hipersockets set up, I may recommend this. The main problem with the hipersockets is getting a local network address from the NSE (LAN) people so that I'm sure to not conflict with anything else. I'm hoping for something in the class C 192.168.a.b area. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:03:30 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: There are 44 directory blocks per track. Well, there are 45 directory blocks per track on a 3390, except that the last track can only hold up to 44. They are all formatted, but only the number you specify are addrressible. Eh? The directory contains the number of blocks that is specified. The remainder of the last directory track is available for use by PDS members. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
Very clever of IBM to have I running inside VM... That's another $NNN further before you will have Solaris up and running! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Peterson Sent: 13 Februarie 2008 06:19 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing Oops: David Boyes (I misspelled Mr Boyes name). Brian On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:15:41 -0600, Brian Peterson wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:13:28 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: (snip) I just read page 10 of the February edition of Linux Format where the claim is made that OpenSolaris was successfully ported to a System z IBM mainframe that is co-owned by Sun and Sine Nomine in Virginia USA. Who would have thought the day would come that that would be possible... 10 years ago, certainly not me. (snip) From November 2007here's a video of a show floor interview of David Boies demonstrating OpenSolaris running under z/VM. The video is in five parts - the below is a link to part 1, and then you can navigate to parts 2-5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH71qP-yDDIfeature=related Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
3590 stacking performance via JCL?
Is anyone aware of a JCL parameter that enhances 3590 tape stacking performance? Maybe something in DATACLAS? I was told about this but cannot find anything. Maybe DCB=OPTCD=? Thanks, Ken Tabikh Verizon Data Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Very clever of IBM to have I running inside VM... That's another $NNN further before you will have Solaris up and running! ... Unless you already have z/VM and some spare capacity. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Interesting Mainframe Article: 5 Myths Exposed
On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm- main,alt.folklore.computers as well. ---SNIP- I was going to rebut some of the items in the article but I did not see anyway to do so. Usually (at least in other mags) there is a way to do so but not with these guys. BTW I should have put a disclaimer in my item about them harvesting email addresses and sending out SPAM. I apologize. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SNA Printer driver / tester
I have been asked to provide a software tool capable of sending whatever documents, reports or just strings of text to one among a variety of SNA printer types defined in VTAM. The purpose it to have a tool to help isolate printing problems arising from often very subtle inconsistencies among various SNA printer emulations. Before I start writing a VTAM appl from scratch I'd like to know if I'm about to reinvent the wheel. Searching this forum, the CBTTAPE and Google is inconclusive. Either there is nothing to be found or I am using the wrong search criteria. Perhaps there is indeed nothing but you might know about some Assembler source code (OS/390, z/OS 1.4 level) in the public domain (or in your hands), containing a lot of VTAM error handling code, I could use as a base. Thanks in advance, Andreas F. Geissbuehler AFG Consultants Inc. http://www.afgc-inc.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3590 stacking performance via JCL?
Kenaan Tabikh wrote: Is anyone aware of a JCL parameter that enhances 3590 tape stacking performance? Maybe something in DATACLAS? I was told about this but cannot find anything. Maybe DCB=OPTCD=? Is it a quiz ? There are several JLC parameters related to tapes, especially multi-file tapes. However AFAIK none of them is really related to performance (maybe except RETAIN or PASS). I'd rather suggest TMM, HSM, and last but not least: some learning. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OpenSolaris successfully ported to an IBM Mainframe.. Was Question on Out Sourcing
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:10 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Van Dalsen, Herbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very clever of IBM to have I running inside VM... That's another $NNN further before you will have Solaris up and running! IBM had nothing to do with that decision. Rather it was the decision of the people doing the port. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS system programmer staffing
Thanks so much for all your input, it is very much appreciated! Mary :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Dalsen, Herbie Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing That is just my point, Once you are happy that the Lead has the 'work styles' ethics that you want, that is it! He will make sure that that is carried forward/maintained. I think sometimes 'management' perceives the standards that will be set by the 'lead' to be to restrictive, and that they struggle to fill the positions, but forget about the consequences if they disregard his 'lead'. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: 13 Februarie 2008 02:54 nm To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS system programmer staffing snip--- It all depends what your structure is. If it was me and I was say the head of IT where you are, I would appoint the team-lead sysprog( someone with all the credentials) first, and let him select his team... I have seen it many times, and this would be the best recipe. It would not pay him to get someone below him that he would not be able to rely on, on cannot work with. -unsnip- We did it that way at Clearing for many years; both the manager and I would interview prospects. Only when management decided that my participation was unnecessary did the atmosphere change. New people with different work styles can sometimes lead to friction and that's never a good thing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Elavon Financial Services Limited Registered in Ireland: Number 418442 Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown, Co. Dublin, Ireland Directors: Robert Abele (USA), John Collins, Terrance Dolan (USA), Pamela Joseph (USA), Declan Lynch, John McNally, Malcolm Towlson Elavon Financial Services Limited, trading as Elavon, is regulated by the Financial Regulator -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
Eh? The directory contains the number of blocks that is specified. The remainder of the last directory track is available for use by PDS members. Then, how come I can zap the directory count up to a multiple of 44, and have them available. I also saw some (old) documentation stating this. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
How come I can create a 1 track PDS with 1 directory block and store a member in it? Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/13/2008 4:48 PM Eh? The directory contains the number of blocks that is specified. The remainder of the last directory track is available for use by PDS members. Then, how come I can zap the directory count up to a multiple of 44, and have them available. I also saw some (old) documentation stating this. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3590 stacking performance via JCL?
Most of the Performance on tape drives can be accomplished by matching the BUFNO= parameter to the Devices I/O Data Transfer Size. For your model that's probably (most Tapes and VTS are) a 128kb size, so you would want enough buffering to hold at least 1 128k Large Block. So for a BLKSIZE=32768 file you would want a BUFNO=4 at minimum, but would be better off with BUFNO=16 or BUFNO=32 (4 or 8 Large Blocks) as Some VTS Units and the 256 track 3590E have a 256kb Transfer Size. However DFSORT ignores any buffering (It has its own I/O context) on both DASD and TAPE so no need to use it when doing sorts. The other thing you can do is to add a step at start of job that will Pre-Mount the tapes and then Retain them for any following steps, using IEFBR14 as a stub program, and the VOL=(,RETAIN) option mentioned earlier. There is also the /*setup card that can be used on some JES systems. Darren -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenaan Tabikh Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 3590 stacking performance via JCL? Is anyone aware of a JCL parameter that enhances 3590 tape stacking performance? Maybe something in DATACLAS? I was told about this but cannot find anything. Maybe DCB=OPTCD=? Thanks, Ken Tabikh Verizon Data Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Soft Capping
Well, my feeling is that capping is reducing the amount of CPU you have available before you hit the wall, right. Now, if you're a bank like us and you hit the wall during the period when peak online WEB type processing is coming in from the customer base they get terrible response time. If they get enough of that it's bye-bye customer. At least you have to balance the software cost savings against customer dissatisfaction, but then I guess that's for management to do. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City -From Lindy Mayfield - February 8, 2008 - May I ask, just for helping me to understand, why one wouldn't do this to keep software costs down? I'm still, after a long time studying (in a vaccuum) trying to understand all this, so that may be a dumb question. Also I may be mixing up soft capping with resource group capping. Lindy - Please don't say that you're not in favor of capping to keep software costs down. Neither am I so you'd be preaching to the choir. However, as we all know, after all the recommendations you do what your told to do. Tom Kelman * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Soft Capping
Hi, The funny part of all of this , is the fact that IBM is the one that create all of this mess and now IBM tries to convince everybody to consolidate the Linux Servers on their boxes again. Next thing GM will do, after dumping all their employees, is to sell you cars with maintenance fees based on how high the revs meter of the car goes , in any one month. The fact that you only used the 'Cobol Compiler once/Have one DB2 table does not count... You pay based on your REV counter. Have faith in IBM to look after you. Anton On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:00:34 -0600, Kelman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, my feeling is that capping is reducing the amount of CPU you have available before you hit the wall, right. Now, if you're a bank like us and you hit the wall during the period when peak online WEB type processing is coming in from the customer base they get terrible response time. If they get enough of that it's bye-bye customer. At least you have to balance the software cost savings against customer dissatisfaction, but then I guess that's for management to do. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City -From Lindy Mayfield - February 8, 2008 - May I ask, just for helping me to understand, why one wouldn't do this to keep software costs down? I'm still, after a long time studying (in a vaccuum) trying to understand all this, so that may be a dumb question. Also I may be mixing up soft capping with resource group capping. Lindy - Please don't say that you're not in favor of capping to keep software costs down. Neither am I so you'd be preaching to the choir. However, as we all know, after all the recommendations you do what your told to do. Tom Kelman ** *** If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. ** *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Soft Capping
Actually, soft capping can -increase- the amount of CPU available. The algorithm uses a rolling four hour average (R4A). That allows you to buy a 5x (or more) box and pay a 1x price if that is your cap and your R4A remains below that. A really cool thing is that you can use all 5x in spikes. So long as you are capped at 1x, then that's all you pay. And you can up the cap on the fly if there is a business decision to do so. There is a 'hard cap' that is a solid ceiling, but that's not what I'm talking about. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Soft Capping Well, my feeling is that capping is reducing the amount of CPU you have available before you hit the wall, right. Now, if you're a bank like us and you hit the wall during the period when peak online WEB type processing is coming in from the customer base they get terrible response time. If they get enough of that it's bye-bye customer. At least you have to balance the software cost savings against customer dissatisfaction, but then I guess that's for management to do. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City -From Lindy Mayfield - February 8, 2008 - May I ask, just for helping me to understand, why one wouldn't do this to keep software costs down? I'm still, after a long time studying (in a vaccuum) trying to understand all this, so that may be a dumb question. Also I may be mixing up soft capping with resource group capping. Lindy - Please don't say that you're not in favor of capping to keep software costs down. Neither am I so you'd be preaching to the choir. However, as we all know, after all the recommendations you do what your told to do. Tom Kelman NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
Ted MacNEIL wrote: Eh? The directory contains the number of blocks that is specified. The remainder of the last directory track is available for use by PDS members. Then, how come I can zap the directory count up to a multiple of 44, and have them available. I also saw some (old) documentation stating this. Following is a track dump of a PDS with 1 directory block allocated, and 1 member stored in it. The member immediately follows the directory block. Could it be that you used PDS from the CBT tape to add directory blocks? Note: I truncated the right half of the dump to avoid line wrap. FDR522 COUNT FIELD 038E000501080100 00 00 001EE3C5 E2E34040 4040 030216028044 20 LINES 40-E0 SAME AS ABOVE FDR522 COUNT FIELD 038E00050200 -- END OF FILE FDR522 COUNT FIELD 038E00050350 00 E3C5E2E3 40404040 40404040 4040404040404040 40404040 20 40404040 40404040 40404040 4040404040404040 40404040 40 40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040 FDR522 COUNT FIELD 038E00050400 -- END OF FILE -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Soft Capping
Nothing wrong with restricting capacity to save on licensing costs. We use a coupling facility LPAR with dynamic dispatch disabled to control the amount of CPU available to the other LPARs on the machine. The zOS LPARs are all uncapped to allow each LPAR to use any unused capacity. Walter Medenbach On Feb 9, 2008 5:23 AM, Kelman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been cross posted to the MXG list. At the end of last year I was asked to determine what would be practical soft caps for our LPARs. We are currently at z/OS v1.7 so we can't cap at the CEC level yet. Of course, the reason for the cap was to keep software costs down, especially for the OEM software. We have an agreement with most of our vendors that we won't use more than 110 MSUs out of our 138 MSU box. My direction was that we didn't want the total MSU 4HRA to go about 110. So I split 110 between the three LPARs we have as equitably as I could based on a years worth of analysis. This split came to 90 MSUs for production, 19 MSUs for development, and 1 MSU for the sysprog sandbox. We have just hit the cap on development and they are screaming blood murder because there are some deadlines to meet for a conversion. So they want to increase the cap on development. My suggestions were to take some from production and give it to development or to just increase development since the high 4HRA for the individual LPARs never occur at the same time. Now, after that explanation, my question. Has anybody had to cap their machine by LPAR like this? If so, do you insure that the individual caps would add up to some sort of specified limit, or did you set them a little higher realizing that they probably wouldn't hit the max all in the same day? Of course taking the second route will leave open the possibility of going over the CEC 4HRA that you want (in our case 110 MSUs). I'd appreciate any ideas anyone has on determining these caps. Please don't say that you're not in favor of capping to keep software costs down. Neither am I so you'd be preaching to the choir. However, as we all know, after all the recommendations you do what your told to do. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3590 stacking performance via JCL?
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:03:24 -0600, Kenaan Tabikh wrote: Is anyone aware of a JCL parameter that enhances 3590 tape stacking performance? Maybe something in DATACLAS? I was told about this but cannot find anything. Maybe DCB=OPTCD=? Thanks, Ken Tabikh I think you might be referrring to High Speed Positioning, which was introduced in OS/390 R7 by APAR OW49828 back in 2001. From that APAR: File stacking write performance gain requires no application changes. Applications that write multiple files on the same tape, in the same job and that specify a volume disposition that leaves the cartridge positioned at the end of each file created will experience significant performance improvement. This occurs when any of the following are true. 1. CLOSE macro is issued with the LEAVE option. 2. RETAIN is coded in the JCL volume parameter and CLOSE is issued with DISP parameter coded or defaulted. 3. PASS is coded in the JCL disp parameter. This will save several seconds of real time for each file created. There are more details regarding this enhancement in the APAR. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Any RMM Training available?
List, Our Operations Staff is looking for RMM Training. Anybody have any leads or recommendations? Thanks gabe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any RMM Training available?
Gabe Torres wrote: List, Our Operations Staff is looking for RMM Training. Anybody have any leads or recommendations? Thanks gabe Sorry, we don't do that. [Just to jump the gun for all the kind listers who suggest our company when training requests come up.] Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM for toddlers
On the contrary. The confusion stems from NOT thinking of a WLM-managed SPAS as a SPAS. There is one and only one address space called WLM. There used to be one address space called SPAS. Now there can be multiple application environments, each of which is associated with a set of WLM-managed Stored Procedure Address Spaces given a common name. Ask yourself where you might find the STEPLIB DD which points to your library of stored procedures. It is not in the WLM address space. It used to be in SPAS. Now it is in a proc which is started when WLM needs to create a SPAS. I hope that clears it up (but somehow I doubt it ;-)) db -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM for toddlers The SPAS address space is history, so any confusion stems from using SPAS as a word in talking about WLM managed address spaces. You can have many WLM address spaces started based on demand. IBM recommended people shift their stored procedures a couple of versions ago. Luckily, I didn't haven't worry about this, we went from zero UDFs to having several running in WLM managed address spaces. If you don't have any stored procedures and only UDFs, it can hardly be referred to as a SPAS anything, surely? I'm sure the OP is now suitably confusedSorry... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3590 stacking performance via JCL?
On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:44 PM, GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS wrote: Most of the Performance on tape drives can be accomplished by matching the BUFNO= parameter to the Devices I/O Data Transfer Size. For your model that's probably (most Tapes and VTS are) a 128kb size, so you would want enough buffering to hold at least 1 128k Large Block. So for a BLKSIZE=32768 file you would want a BUFNO=4 at minimum, but would be better off with BUFNO=16 or BUFNO=32 (4 or 8 Large Blocks) as Some VTS Units and the 256 track 3590E have a 256kb Transfer Size. However DFSORT ignores any buffering (It has its own I/O context) on both DASD and TAPE so no need to use it when doing sorts. The other thing you can do is to add a step at start of job that will Pre-Mount the tapes and then Retain them for any following steps, using IEFBR14 as a stub program, and the VOL=(,RETAIN) option mentioned earlier. There is also the /*setup card that can be used on some JES systems. Darren Darren, I am fairly sure that the default for QSAM is 5 buffers if you decrease it to 4 you will have a negative impact on performance. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3590 stacking performance via JCL?
Keep forgetting that changed. So to amend what I said, the best minimum in my example would be BUFNO=8 (2 128k Large Blocks or 1 256k large block) Darren -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3590 stacking performance via JCL? On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:44 PM, GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS wrote: Most of the Performance on tape drives can be accomplished by matching the BUFNO= parameter to the Devices I/O Data Transfer Size. For your model that's probably (most Tapes and VTS are) a 128kb size, so you would want enough buffering to hold at least 1 128k Large Block. So for a BLKSIZE=32768 file you would want a BUFNO=4 at minimum, but would be better off with BUFNO=16 or BUFNO=32 (4 or 8 Large Blocks) as Some VTS Units and the 256 track 3590E have a 256kb Transfer Size. However DFSORT ignores any buffering (It has its own I/O context) on both DASD and TAPE so no need to use it when doing sorts. The other thing you can do is to add a step at start of job that will Pre-Mount the tapes and then Retain them for any following steps, using IEFBR14 as a stub program, and the VOL=(,RETAIN) option mentioned earlier. There is also the /*setup card that can be used on some JES systems. Darren Darren, I am fairly sure that the default for QSAM is 5 buffers if you decrease it to 4 you will have a negative impact on performance. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS system programmer staffing
On Feb 13, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: Thanks so much for all your input, it is very much appreciated! Mary :-) Yukas: Don't forget that some(quite a few) installations promote past the level of competence. It is I believed called the Peter Principal. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CECP
Hi all, I have a question in regard to CECP being used on z/OS. I know how to display the CECP for z/OS and thats no problem, I need to change it for a test with a client to 1147 ( UK ) and run a test. How to I set it to 1147 ??? in USS or z/OS ??? Not sure Any help would be appreciated.. Regards, Scott Ford IDF http://www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION
On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Eh? The directory contains the number of blocks that is specified. The remainder of the last directory track is available for use by PDS members. Then, how come I can zap the directory count up to a multiple of 44, and have them available. I also saw some (old) documentation stating this. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! Ted: I think that load module directory entries are larger than say FB (source) type directory entries. I know we are talking about FB type libraries in the thread. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.
On 13 Feb 2008 08:21:59 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. McKown, John wrote: [snip] I don't look for zAAP information on anything. The mainframe is going away is the mantra and nothing that I have done in the past can even get the attention of management. They simply don't seem to want to be bothered with the System z in any manner. John, I was going through some of my old emails the other day and I noticed you writing the mainframe is dying is the motto around here on July 22, 2005. So it seems to be taking its own sweet time. Is this the kind of situation Stephen Y Odo writes about? He's in the 18th year of a five year plan to get rid of the mainframe. Too true. In fact, the mainframe stayed and management went away (was allowed to persue other interests or some such HR-speak). But the motto has stayed. Maybe someone in your management might be amenable to recognizing that the reality is the mainframe is not going away at UICI Insurance Center. The current management still says that it is going away (despite the fact that the workload is growing). They base this on the plan to replace the mainframe software with COTS software running on other platforms such as Linux (Windows is now considered to be also ran around here). They just haven't really found the COTS software that they need yet. Unfortunately even if the mainframe were considered, the probability of finding COTS software that both meets the business need and runs on the mainframe is slim. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.
Clark Morris wrote: On 13 Feb 2008 08:21:59 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. McKown, John wrote: [snip] I don't look for zAAP information on anything. The mainframe is going away is the mantra and nothing that I have done in the past can even get the attention of management. They simply don't seem to want to be bothered with the System z in any manner. John, I was going through some of my old emails the other day and I noticed you writing the mainframe is dying is the motto around here on July 22, 2005. So it seems to be taking its own sweet time. Is this the kind of situation Stephen Y Odo writes about? He's in the 18th year of a five year plan to get rid of the mainframe. Too true. In fact, the mainframe stayed and management went away (was allowed to persue other interests or some such HR-speak). But the motto has stayed. Maybe someone in your management might be amenable to recognizing that the reality is the mainframe is not going away at UICI Insurance Center. The current management still says that it is going away (despite the fact that the workload is growing). They base this on the plan to replace the mainframe software with COTS software running on other platforms such as Linux (Windows is now considered to be also ran around here). They just haven't really found the COTS software that they need yet. Unfortunately even if the mainframe were considered, the probability of finding COTS software that both meets the business need and runs on the mainframe is slim. Sorry. What is COTS? Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:00:38 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote: Clark Morris wrote: On 13 Feb 2008 08:21:59 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main John wrote: -Original Message- On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file. McKown, John wrote: [snip] The current management still says that it is going away (despite the fact that the workload is growing). They base this on the plan to replace the mainframe software with COTS software running on other platforms such as Linux (Windows is now considered to be also ran around here). They just haven't really found the COTS software that they need yet. Unfortunately even if the mainframe were considered, the probability of finding COTS software that both meets the business need and runs on the mainframe is slim. Sorry. What is COTS? COTS == Cheap, Off-The-Shelf (software in this case; it can also apply to hardware... and even to people.) -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COTS software on box ? to replace mainframe was Re: Curious(?) way to ZIP a mainframe file.
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Comstock) writes: Sorry. What is COTS? commercial off the shelf ... i believe coined by somebody in gov. sometime around the early 80s ... as alternative to highly customized, one-off, specialty implementations. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
