Re: SHUTTRAP

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 10:06 EDT, David Boyes  
wrote:
> > You will not find any published information on the mechanism.
> 
> There is a tiny amount of information in the POP manual in the external 
> interrupt section on the original LPAR deactivation signal and what's 
supposed 
> to happen when it triggers, but the end comment is that the effect will 
be 
> "implementation dependent".

What POP are you looking at?  I can't find any reference to LPAR 
deactivation.  The only machine-dependent external interrupt I can find is 
"Service Signal" and that covers a lot of ground, notifying the OS of the 
completion of some previously requested machine function.

The 9730/9221 used to reflect "now on batteries!" and "now on utility 
power!" via an external damage machine check.  The logical response to 
"batteries!" would be to almost-but-not-quite shutdown and quiesce.  That 
is, go into an enabled wait for "utility!" and then come roaring back to 
life with an almost-but-not-quite IPL.  (The machine even had a published 
DIAGNOSE to cause the machine to power down.)

Alan Altmark

Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Kent E. Taylor]

Scott, I, too, agree a website would be a useful place for such discussions.  
Is constructing such a site something you could volunteer to do?

Mongo

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Walter 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels


 

Scott,

 

I can't speak for the unpaid volunteer organizers of the VM Workshop, but that 
certainly sounds like a fair and a good idea.  

 

Mike Walter


 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:11 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

 

Maybe the workshop can provide a website to share such things..   I think it's 
fine to announce these events here -- but all the attendance, lodging, etc type 
details should be discussed elsewhere (IMHO).  

Scott Rohling

 

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mike Walter  wrote:

I'm not so sure. this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop.  VM is 
definitely the direct point of this list.

 

My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending the 
workshop.  My reply today was to answer the question asked about the source of 
that report.  But I think we're pretty much done now if that will help you any 
sleep better. don't let the bed bugs bite!  ;-)

 

(Now I'm all itchy!) 

 

Mike Walter

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM


To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

 

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc?  
 

 

Scott Rohling

 

 

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Kent E. Taylor]

Well, Scott, where do you suggest the discussion be held?  I would think that 
the Workshop is a suitable topic for this board and lodging considerations are 
an essential part for most everyone but locals.  Perhaps if you have no 
interest in these posts you could simply ignore them

Mongo (Kent Taylor)

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Rohling 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels


Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc?  
 


Scott Rohling

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Kent E. Taylor]

Thank you for your post, Chip.  The news media has made me paranoid 
about bedbugs.  Before I retired about 20 years ago, I travelled a LOT 
on business, but bedbugs were not an issue then.  We have not had 
occasion to stay in hotels for a number of years, so this is our first 
hotel stay since the bedbug flap started.  As a result I have no 
perspective on the realities.  Therefore your post is extremely 
valuable to me because you have presented the case that the flap is 
overblown.


Again, I appreciate your input, Chip.

Kent "Mongo" Taylor

- Original Message - 
From: "Chip Davis" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM 
Workshop Hotels



Sadly, it's become common practice to trash competitors in reviews 
on most online sites.  So much so that there are companies that will 
(for a fee) look for them and delete them for you.  (For all I know, 
the trashing is being done for a fee as well.)  Quite the 
opportunistic little eco-system.


I travel a lot and stay at a variety of low- to mid-tier properties, 
albeit usually ones affiliated with national brands.  I have never 
seen a bedbug, much less been bitten by one.  And yes, I've stayed 
at hostel-grade properties in NYC, Chicago, and LA.  You stay where 
your budget will allow.


I think the whole "hotel bedbug infestation" publicity is blown out 
of proportion, but I could be wrong.


-Chip-

On 6/28/11 16:57 Len Diegel said:
I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn 
locations ($69/night).  She has been there 2 years and they've had 
no issues as described in earlier notes.  She has no idea why this 
came up on someone's site and would like to know the source.  We 
will be leaving that hotel option on the site.
 I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza. 
They are a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast.  The 
rate is $89/night and we will be listing this as the "Conference 
Hotel".  I hope this helps with those still in the process of 
deciding on rooms.

 Regards,
Len

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Kent E. Taylor]

Len, thanks for the update.

The Varsity Inn manager wanted to know the source of the negative information,  
Yahoo! Travel has several negative reviews at this web page:
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-hotel-367432-varsity_inn_osu_north-i
Note that the bedbug review was from April 2011 but the other three reviews are 
old, from 2005 and 2004.  But perhaps the manager should be aware of them 
anyway because they might influence people,

I dread bedbugs.  If you happen to pick up bedbugs in your luggage you could 
wind up introducing them to your own home.  Worse yet, if you visit family or 
friends before you return home (as we plan to do after the workshop), you could 
introduce them to their homes.  But the poor hotel could be a victim, too.  All 
it takes is one guest bringing in bedbugs in his luggage.  Even a very 
conscientious hotel might not find out right away, leaving enough time for 
another guest to be infested before the hotel takes action.

I should note that there were a number of very positive reviews on 
TripAdvisor.com and no mention of bedbugs that I saw.

Kent Taylor

- Original Message - 
From: Len Diegel 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels


I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations 
($69/night).  She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as described 
in earlier notes.  She has no idea why this came up on someone's site and would 
like to know the source.  We will be leaving that hotel option on the site.

I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza.  They are a 
full service hotel with free parking and breakfast.  The rate is $89/night and 
we will be listing this as the "Conference Hotel".   

I hope this helps with those still in the process of deciding on rooms.

Regards,
Len

Re: SHUTTRAP

[David Boyes]

> You will not find any published information on the mechanism.

There is a tiny amount of information in the POP manual in the external 
interrupt section on the original LPAR deactivation signal and what's supposed 
to happen when it triggers, but the end comment is that the effect will be 
"implementation dependent". 

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 07:35 EDT, "Schuh, Richard"  
wrote:
> Close, but I am not willing to grant you a cigar. If all, or even most, 
have 
> the same Signalled by id, then either a "signal shutdown all" was done 
or a 
> program did multiple "signal shutdown user userid" commands in rapid 
sequence.

You cannot tell the difference between SIGNAL SHUTDOWN USER  and 
SIGNAL SHUTDOWN ALL.  If the signal is the result of an LPAR deactivation 
(or 2nd level equivalent), then the Signalled By user will be SYSTEM. 

Alan Altmark

Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott

Re: OSA Transport Problem

[Burch, Aubrey D Mr CIV DISA CDB12]

Thanks Alan. The error disappeared after I had the OSA CHPIDs
deactivated/activated at the HMC. I actually had both the Link and the
VSWITCH defined as layer2, so no further changes were needed.

Denny
  

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 18:29
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: OSA Transport Problem

On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:01 EDT, "Burch, Aubrey D Mr CIV DISA CDB12"

 wrote:

> ToOsd ProcessReadBuffer: Termination failure code 
F6   
> 
> Possible LAN transport misconfiguration detected during OSD device 
> initialization

That termination failure code is generated only by CP, not by the OSA,
and 
reflects the inability of the virtual NIC to switch to layer 2 or 3 as 
requested by the device driver, the request being in opposition to the 
IP/ETHERNET definition on the VSWITCH to which the NIC is coupled.

1.  Verify that the NIC is actually coupled to the VSWITCH you think it
is 
coupled to
2.  Verify that the coupled VSWITCH is ETHERNET
3.  Verify that your TCP/IP stack is of the same level as the ones that 
are working

If all else fails, open a PMR.

Alan Altmark

Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Schuh, Richard]

Close, but I am not willing to grant you a cigar. If all, or even most, have 
the same Signalled by id, then either a "signal shutdown all" was done or a 
program did multiple "signal shutdown user userid" commands in rapid sequence.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Raymond Noal
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:38 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP
> 
> Richard,
> 
> You can use the CP command - 'Q SIGNALS' to make your 
> determinations, as in - 
> 
> q signals  
> Signalled  Timeout  
> UseridSignalSignal Status   By Remaining
> LN192209  SHUTDOWN  Enabled -  -
> VMSERVR   SHUTDOWN  Enabled -  -
> VMSERVU   SHUTDOWN  Enabled -  -
> VMSERVS   SHUTDOWN  Enabled -  -
> 
> Happy parsing!!
> 
> Raymond E. Noal
> 
>EMC²
> where information lives
> 
> Phone: (508) 249-4076
> Ext:  44076
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:22 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP
> 
> Given the lack of direction, I suppose that you can do almost 
> anything, so long as you are consistent. There is no right or 
> wrong, so logging off will work so long as the watchdog 
> machine does not bring logged off users back on. Is there any 
> way for a user to determine if it is being targeted alone, by 
> a "signal shutdown user userid" or is included in a "signal 
> shutdown all"? I suspect not, but I can see where that might 
> be useful at times. Also, CP does notice when a user who has 
> requested the shutdown signal logs off and cancels the 
> request, does it not? It must because a virtual machine can 
> log off at any time, regardless of the shutdown signal, and 
> CP has to handle it correctly. Does CP disallow new logons 
> when it receives  "signal shutdown all" command?
> 
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh 
> 
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:56 PM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP
> > 
> > On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:10 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to 
> find it in 
> > > the documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the
> > SHUTDOWN
> > > command
> > and
> > > it can be anything between 1 and . I cannot find where
> > the default
> > is FFF. 
> > > Is that a true system default or is it a code you have 
> adopted for 
> > > your
> > use?
> > 
> > You will not find any published information on the mechanism.
> > 
> > I *observe* that if you SIGNAL SHUTDOWN to a 2nd level VM, it will 
> > load wait state FFF and the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command gives a 
> > "successful termination" message.
> > 
> > Draw your own conclusions.
> > 
> > Alan Altmark
> > 
> > Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab 
> Services and 
> > Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
> > office: 607.429.3323
> > mobile; 607.321.7556
> > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
> > IBM Endicott
> > 
> 

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Raymond Noal]

Richard,

You can use the CP command - 'Q SIGNALS' to make your determinations, as in - 

q signals  
Signalled  Timeout  
UseridSignalSignal Status   By Remaining
LN192209  SHUTDOWN  Enabled -  -
VMSERVR   SHUTDOWN  Enabled -  -
VMSERVU   SHUTDOWN  Enabled -  -
VMSERVS   SHUTDOWN  Enabled -  -

Happy parsing!!

Raymond E. Noal

   EMC²
where information lives

Phone: (508) 249-4076
Ext:  44076

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:22 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP

Given the lack of direction, I suppose that you can do almost anything, so long 
as you are consistent. There is no right or wrong, so logging off will work so 
long as the watchdog machine does not bring logged off users back on. Is there 
any way for a user to determine if it is being targeted alone, by a "signal 
shutdown user userid" or is included in a "signal shutdown all"? I suspect not, 
but I can see where that might be useful at times. Also, CP does notice when a 
user who has requested the shutdown signal logs off and cancels the request, 
does it not? It must because a virtual machine can log off at any time, 
regardless of the shutdown signal, and CP has to handle it correctly. Does CP 
disallow new logons when it receives  "signal shutdown all" command?

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:56 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP
> 
> On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:10 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" 
> 
> wrote:
> > No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to find it in  
> > the documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the 
> SHUTDOWN 
> > command
> and 
> > it can be anything between 1 and . I cannot find where 
> the default
> is FFF. 
> > Is that a true system default or is it a code you have adopted for 
> > your
> use?
> 
> You will not find any published information on the mechanism.
> 
> I *observe* that if you SIGNAL SHUTDOWN to a 2nd level VM, it 
> will load wait state FFF and the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command 
> gives a "successful termination" message.
> 
> Draw your own conclusions.
> 
> Alan Altmark
> 
> Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab 
> Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
> office: 607.429.3323
> mobile; 607.321.7556
> alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
> IBM Endicott
> 

Re: OSA Transport Problem

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:01 EDT, "Burch, Aubrey D Mr CIV DISA CDB12" 
 wrote:

> ToOsd ProcessReadBuffer: Termination failure code 
F6   
> 
> Possible LAN transport misconfiguration detected during OSD device 
> initialization

That termination failure code is generated only by CP, not by the OSA, and 
reflects the inability of the virtual NIC to switch to layer 2 or 3 as 
requested by the device driver, the request being in opposition to the 
IP/ETHERNET definition on the VSWITCH to which the NIC is coupled.

1.  Verify that the NIC is actually coupled to the VSWITCH you think it is 
coupled to
2.  Verify that the coupled VSWITCH is ETHERNET
3.  Verify that your TCP/IP stack is of the same level as the ones that 
are working

If all else fails, open a PMR.

Alan Altmark

Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Schuh, Richard]

Given the lack of direction, I suppose that you can do almost anything, so long 
as you are consistent. There is no right or wrong, so logging off will work so 
long as the watchdog machine does not bring logged off users back on. Is there 
any way for a user to determine if it is being targeted alone, by a "signal 
shutdown user userid" or is included in a "signal shutdown all"? I suspect not, 
but I can see where that might be useful at times. Also, CP does notice when a 
user who has requested the shutdown signal logs off and cancels the request, 
does it not? It must because a virtual machine can log off at any time, 
regardless of the shutdown signal, and CP has to handle it correctly. Does CP 
disallow new logons when it receives  "signal shutdown all" command?

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:56 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP
> 
> On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:10 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" 
> 
> wrote:
> > No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to find it in  
> > the documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the 
> SHUTDOWN 
> > command
> and 
> > it can be anything between 1 and . I cannot find where 
> the default
> is FFF. 
> > Is that a true system default or is it a code you have adopted for 
> > your
> use?
> 
> You will not find any published information on the mechanism.
> 
> I *observe* that if you SIGNAL SHUTDOWN to a 2nd level VM, it 
> will load wait state FFF and the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command 
> gives a "successful termination" message.
> 
> Draw your own conclusions.
> 
> Alan Altmark
> 
> Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab 
> Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
> office: 607.429.3323
> mobile; 607.321.7556
> alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
> IBM Endicott
> 

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Alan Altmark]

On Tuesday, 06/28/2011 at 03:10 EDT, "Schuh, Richard"  
wrote:
> No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to find it in  the 
> documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the SHUTDOWN command 
and 
> it can be anything between 1 and . I cannot find where the default 
is FFF. 
> Is that a true system default or is it a code you have adopted for your 
use?

You will not find any published information on the mechanism.

I *observe* that if you SIGNAL SHUTDOWN to a 2nd level VM, it will load 
wait state FFF and the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command gives a "successful 
termination" message.

Draw your own conclusions.

Alan Altmark

Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Jim Thomas]

Sir,

 

Thank you.

 

Kind Regards

 

Jim Thomas

617-233-4130 (mobile)

636-294-1014(res)

j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Len Diegel
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:25 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

 

That's the correct address and University Plaza is the Conference Hotel.

 

In a message dated 6/28/2011 2:21:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
j...@thethomasresidence.us writes:

Could somebody please confirm the Union Facility's address to be 1739 N.
High Street, Columbus, 
Ohio 43210. 

Do we have a common hotel that most (if not all) are going to be staying at
?. University Plaza,
Varsity Inn, Blackwell Inn ??.

Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:06 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

I'm the one who mentioned bed bugs on this list.  That was only after seeing
customer reviews reporting it on TripAdvisor, see:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g50226-d223766-r93110651-Varsity_
Inn-Columbus_Ohio.html

But the 'reported' problem is not confined to that hotel.  In looking for
the report pasted above, today I happened across the following.  But please
note that this site appears to report that there are many reputable hotels
in Columbus with bed bug reports:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:96qas41VFmwJ:www.raveab
le.com/oh/columbus/bed-bugs-in-hotels/l5302+varsity+inn+south+bed+bugs+colum
bus+ohio&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

The hotel I booked has one reported bed bug incident on that site, too.  It
doesn't seem as if there will be any way to avoid bed bugs across the
country until a better insecticide is discovered.  

Bed bugs are not a sign of a "bad" hotel, just the fact that someone brought
them in from somewhere else.  Without DDT (long banned for good reason) they
are very, VERY difficult to eradicate.  I agree that competitors and
disgruntled customers have been known to lie about conditions.  Take reports
with a grain of salt (and a good flashlight).  :-)

There's no good way to know how significant the problem is, or... was.  The
problem may have been corrected since the first report.  Life's
undercertain, eat dessert first!  ;-)

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Chip Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:38 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

Sadly, it's become common practice to trash competitors in reviews on 
most online sites.  So much so that there are companies that will (for 
a fee) look for them and delete them for you.  (For all I know, the 
trashing is being done for a fee as well.)  Quite the opportunistic 
little eco-system.

I travel a lot and stay at a variety of low- to mid-tier properties, 
albeit usually ones affiliated with national brands.  I have never 
seen a bedbug, much less been bitten by one.  And yes, I've stayed at 
hostel-grade properties in NYC, Chicago, and LA.  You stay where your 
budget will allow.

I think the whole "hotel bedbug infestation" publicity is blown out of 
proportion, but I could be wrong.

-Chip-

On 6/28/11 16:57 Len Diegel said:
> I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations 
> ($69/night).  She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as 
> described in earlier notes.  She has no idea why this came up on 
> someone's site and would like to know the source.  We will be leaving 
> that hotel option on the site.
>  
> I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza.  They 
> are a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast.  The rate is 
> $89/night and we will be listing this as the "Conference Hotel".  
>  
> I hope this helps with those still in the process of deciding on rooms.
>  
> Regards,
> Len
>  
>  



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Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Jim Thomas]

Sir,

 

Thank you for your efforts … a question if I may.. any way to tell where ‘most’ 
of 

the people are staying and of course, which on is the closest to the … umm .. 
where

ever the VM work shop is being held ?.  

 

Kind Regards

 

Jim Thomas

617-233-4130 (mobile)

636-294-1014(res)

j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Len Diegel
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

 

Thanks Mike.  We're going to be using Varsity Inn North as one of the hotel 
options.  (Rate $62/nite)   According to the manager there, there have been no 
issues with bugs.  However, Varsity Inn South did have a water bug issue and 
that was taken care of immediately.  Somehow that got reported on the site. I 
think we're okay with Varsity Inn North.  It's will be listed on the VM 
Workshop web site (www.vmworkshop.org )   but this is the site for the hotel 
for those that are interested.  I believe people can tell them it's for the VM 
Workshop to get the rate.  It should be in their respective systems by 
tomorrow, if not sooner.

 

Conference Hotel ($84/nite)  :   University Plaza - www.universityplazaosu.com 

 

Varsity Inn North ($62/nite)  :   www.varsityinnosunorth.com 
  

 

I hope this helps.

 

Regards, Len

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 6/28/2011 1:18:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com writes:

I’m not so sure… this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop.  VM is 
definitely the direct point of this list.

 

My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending the 
workshop.  My reply today was to answer the question asked about the source of 
that report.  But I think we’re pretty much done now if that will help you any 
sleep better… don’t let the bed bugs bite!  ;-)

 

(Now I’m all itchy!) 

 

Mike Walter

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

 

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc?  
 

 

Scott Rohling

 

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Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Jim Thomas]

Sir's Mike / Scott / Et'al,

 

Forgive for interrupting . this will be the first time I'm coming close to
speaking

and listening about VM in about a decade. Further, I am not familiar w/Ohio
at 

all. 

 

Forgive me but, any and all directions I can get for the conference, is most
valuable

and appreciated (IOW. I will be grateful) by myself.

 

Kind Regards

 

Jim Thomas

617-233-4130 (mobile)

636-294-1014(res)

j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:34 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

 

 

Scott,

 

I can't speak for the unpaid volunteer organizers of the VM Workshop, but
that certainly sounds like a fair and a good idea.  

 

Mike Walter

 

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:11 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

 

Maybe the workshop can provide a website to share such things..   I think
it's fine to announce these events here -- but all the attendance, lodging,
etc type details should be discussed elsewhere (IMHO).  

Scott Rohling

 

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mike Walter 
wrote:

I'm not so sure. this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop.  VM is
definitely the direct point of this list.

 

My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending the
workshop.  My reply today was to answer the question asked about the source
of that report.  But I think we're pretty much done now if that will help
you any sleep better. don't let the bed bugs bite!  ;-)

 

(Now I'm all itchy!) 

 

Mike Walter

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM


To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

 

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs,
etc?   

 

Scott Rohling

 

 

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Re: SHUTTRAP

[Schuh, Richard]

I do not find any mention of "shutdown" in the copy of "z/Architecture 
Principals of Operation" that I just searched. Like I said, the documentation 
is difficult to find.


Regards,
Richard Schuh






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:05 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP

That code is what CP will load when its shutdown is complete.  So, not related 
to signal shutdown's wait code.  I don't remember where I found the code to 
load, my guess is in the z Series Principles of Operations (the shutdown signal 
is not a z/VM invention, but a z HW feature that z/VM also virtualizes).

2011/6/28 Schuh, Richard mailto:rsc...@visa.com>>
No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to find it in the 
documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the SHUTDOWN command and it 
can be anything between 1 and . I cannot find where the default is FFF. Is 
that a true system default or is it a code you have adopted for your use?


Regards,
Richard Schuh






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
[mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Tom Huegel
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:53 AM

To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP

Thanks Kris, that is not obvious, but it makes sense..

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Kris Buelens 
mailto:kris.buel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My RxKernel has ShutTrap support.  RxServer uses WAKEUP (EXT to catch the 
interrupt.  No abends then.

And, to complete handling a shutdown signal, one is supposed to load an FFF 
wait state, not to LOGOFF.  My first attempt was to end with a LOGOFF.  But 
then our automation saw the server go logoff and started it again.  So now I 
end with the official method:
   'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'




2011/6/28 Raymond Noal mailto:raymond.n...@emc.com>>
Hello Richard,

I believe the reason for your error message in using SHUTTRAP is that SHUTTRAP 
can only issue CMS commands and not CP commands. Is the message associated with 
your SHUTTRAP issuing a CP command? I had the same problem when my message was 
a CP command. As a test for SHUTTAP I issued the CMS command 'Q DISK' and it 
worked with no error message.

Hope this helps.

Raymond E. Noal

   EMC²
where information lives

Phone: (508) 249-4076
Ext:  44076

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
[mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:59 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SHUTTRAP

I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my first 
simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did indeed 
trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got this:

SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900 seconds
DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred at 81056162 in system routine WAITRD; 
re-IPL CMS
15:07:56  * MSG FROM RSCHUH1 : DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been 
severed.
HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A 80F3F752

There is nothing in the documentation that would lead me to believe that this 
is normal; however, the documentation consists solely of the HELP file and is 
pretty sparse in this area. I tried reassembling the module with the same 
results.

z/VM 6.1 Service Level 1002
CMS 25, Service Level 002


Regards,
Richard Schuh






--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support




--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Len Diegel]

Scott, thanks.  The info is on the website.  We've tried to do  nothing 
more here than point to it.  Sorry about the other discussion, but  the thread 
was started over here and hopefully ended.
 
Frankly, this is the best place to get info to the VM community and we've  
all seen our share of more useless threads.
 
Regards,
Len
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2011 2:11:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
scott.rohl...@gmail.com writes:

Maybe  the workshop can provide a website to share such things..   I think 
it's  fine to announce these events here -- but all the attendance, lodging, 
etc  type details should be discussed elsewhere (IMHO).  

Scott Rohling

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mike Walter <_mike.walter@aonhewitt.com_ 
(mailto:mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com) >  wrote:


 
I’m not so  sure… this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop.  VM is 
definitely  the direct point of this list. 
My initial  report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending 
the  workshop.  My reply today was to answer the question asked about the  
source of that report.  But I think we’re pretty much done now if that  will 
help you any sleep better… don’t let the bed bugs bite!   ;-) 
(Now I’m  all itchy!)  
Mike  Walter 
 
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:_ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ 
(mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) ] On Behalf Of Scott  Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM 

To: _ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) 
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn  North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop  
Hotels

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss  hotels, bed bugs, 
etc?
 

 
Scott  Rohling 
 

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Len Diegel]

That's the correct address and University Plaza is the Conference  Hotel.
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2011 2:21:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
j...@thethomasresidence.us writes:

Could  somebody please confirm the Union Facility's address to be 1739 N.
High  Street, Columbus, 
Ohio 43210. 

Do we have a common hotel that most  (if not all) are going to be staying at
?. University Plaza,
Varsity  Inn, Blackwell Inn ??.

Kind Regards

Jim  Thomas
617-233-4130  (mobile)
636-294-1014   (res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)


-Original  Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System  [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday,  June 28, 2011 1:06 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity  Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM  Workshop
Hotels

I'm the one who mentioned bed bugs on this  list.  That was only after 
seeing
customer reviews reporting it on  TripAdvisor,  see:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g50226-d223766-r93110651-Varsity_
Inn-Columbus_Ohio.html

But  the 'reported' problem is not confined to that hotel.  In looking  for
the report pasted above, today I happened across the following.   But please
note that this site appears to report that there are many  reputable hotels
in Columbus with bed bug  reports:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:96qas41VFmwJ:www.raveab
le.com/oh/columbus/bed-bugs-in-hotels/l5302+varsity+inn+south+bed+bugs+colum
bus+ohio&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

The  hotel I booked has one reported bed bug incident on that site, too.   
It
doesn't seem as if there will be any way to avoid bed bugs across  the
country until a better insecticide is discovered.  

Bed  bugs are not a sign of a "bad" hotel, just the fact that someone  
brought
them in from somewhere else.  Without DDT (long banned for  good reason) 
they
are very, VERY difficult to eradicate.  I agree that  competitors and
disgruntled customers have been known to lie about  conditions.  Take 
reports
with a grain of salt (and a good  flashlight).  :-)

There's no good way to know how significant the  problem is, or... was.  The
problem may have been corrected since the  first report.  Life's
undercertain, eat dessert first!   ;-)

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are  mine alone, not my employer's.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM  z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Chip  Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:38 PM
To:  IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South &  University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

Sadly, it's become common  practice to trash competitors in reviews on 
most online sites.  So  much so that there are companies that will (for 
a fee) look for them and  delete them for you.  (For all I know, the 
trashing is being done for  a fee as well.)  Quite the opportunistic 
little eco-system.

I  travel a lot and stay at a variety of low- to mid-tier properties, 
albeit  usually ones affiliated with national brands.  I have never 
seen a  bedbug, much less been bitten by one.  And yes, I've stayed at  
hostel-grade properties in NYC, Chicago, and LA.  You stay where your  
budget will allow.

I think the whole "hotel bedbug infestation"  publicity is blown out of 
proportion, but I could be  wrong.

-Chip-

On 6/28/11 16:57 Len Diegel said:
> I just  had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations 
>  ($69/night).  She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as  
> described in earlier notes.  She has no idea why this came up on  
> someone's site and would like to know the source.  We will be  leaving 
> that hotel option on the site.
>  
> I also  had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza.  They 
>  are a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast.  The rate is  
> $89/night and we will be listing this as the "Conference  Hotel".  
>  
> I hope this helps with those still in  the process of deciding on rooms.
>  
> Regards,
>  Len
>  
>  



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Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Len Diegel]

Thanks guys.  Hopefully this one is fixed and without an apar.
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2011 3:15:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rhamil...@cas.org writes:

 
Talking about VM and  talking about bugs….so, what’s the issue???   B-) 
R; 
 
 
  

 
From: The IBM  z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu] On 
Behalf Of Len Diegel
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:10  PM
To:  IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North &  South & University Plaza - VM Workshop 
Hotels
 
scott, i'm sure you  are right.  on the other hand, stranger things have 
been discussed on  this one.  :-)
 

 
 
In a message dated  6/28/2011 1:08:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
scott.rohl...@gmail.com  writes:

Gentlemen -- I'm  sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, 
etc?  
 

 
Scott  Rohling 
 






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Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Hamilton, Robert]

Talking about VM and talking about bugsso, what's the issue???   B-)

 

R;

 

 

 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Len Diegel
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:10 PM
To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

 

scott, i'm sure you are right.  on the other hand, stranger things have
been discussed on this one.  :-)

 

In a message dated 6/28/2011 1:08:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
scott.rohl...@gmail.com writes:

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels,
bed bugs, etc?

 

Scott Rohling

 


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Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Len Diegel]

scott, i'm sure you are right.  on the other hand, stranger things  have 
been discussed on this one.  :-)
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2011 1:08:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
scott.rohl...@gmail.com writes:

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed  bugs, 
etc? 


Scott Rohling

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Len Diegel]

Thanks Mike.  We're going to be using Varsity Inn North as one of the  
hotel options.  (Rate $62/nite)   According to the manager there,  there have 
been no issues with bugs.  However, Varsity Inn South did  have a water bug 
issue and that was taken care of immediately.  Somehow  that got reported on 
the site. I think we're okay with Varsity Inn  North.  It's will be listed on 
the VM Workshop web site (_www.vmworkshop.org_ (http://www.vmworkshop.org)  
)   but this  is the site for the hotel for those that are interested.  I 
believe people  can tell them it's for the VM Workshop to get the rate.  It 
should be in  their respective systems by tomorrow, if not sooner.
 
Conference Hotel ($84/nite)  :   University Plaza - 
_www.universityplazaosu.com_ (http://www.universityplazaosu.com)  
 
Varsity Inn North ($62/nite)  :   _www.varsityinnosunorth.com_ 
(http://www.varsityinnosunorth.com/)  
 
I hope this helps.
 
Regards, Len
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/28/2011 1:18:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com writes:

 
I’m  not so sure… this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop.  VM is  
definitely the direct point of this list. 
My  initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending 
the  workshop.  My reply today was to answer the question asked about the  
source of that report.  But I think we’re pretty much done now if that  will 
help you any sleep better… don’t let the bed bugs bite!   ;-) 
(Now  I’m all itchy!)  
Mike  Walter 
 
From: The IBM z/VM  Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On 
Behalf Of Scott  Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM
To:  IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South  & University Plaza - VM Workshop 
Hotels
Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss  hotels, bed bugs, 
etc?
 

 
Scott Rohling 
 



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Re: SHUTTRAP

[Kris Buelens]

That code is what CP will load when its shutdown is complete.  So, not
related to signal shutdown's wait code.  I don't remember where I found the
code to load, my guess is in the z Series Principles of Operations (the
shutdown signal is not a z/VM invention, but a z HW feature that z/VM also
virtualizes).

2011/6/28 Schuh, Richard 

> **
> No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to find it in the
> documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the SHUTDOWN command and
> it can be anything between 1 and . I cannot find where the default is
> FFF. Is that a true system default or is it a code you have adopted for your
> use?
>
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh **
>
> ** **
>
>
>  --
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Huegel
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:53 AM
>
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: SHUTTRAP
>
> Thanks Kris, that is not obvious, but it makes sense..
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Kris Buelens wrote:
>
>> My RxKernel has ShutTrap support.  RxServer uses WAKEUP (EXT to catch the
>> interrupt.  No abends then.
>>
>> And, to complete handling a shutdown signal, one is supposed to load an
>> FFF wait state, not to LOGOFF.  My first attempt was to end with a LOGOFF.
>> But then our automation saw the server go logoff and started it again.  So
>> now I end with the official method:
>>'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/6/28 Raymond Noal 
>>
>>>  Hello Richard,
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I believe the reason for your error message in using SHUTTRAP is that
>>> SHUTTRAP can only issue CMS commands and not CP commands. Is the message
>>> associated with your SHUTTRAP issuing a CP command? I had the same problem
>>> when my message was a CP command. As a test for SHUTTAP I issued the CMS
>>> command ‘Q DISK’ and it worked with no error message.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> *Raymond E. Noal*
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *   EMC²*
>>>
>>> *where information lives*
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *Phone: (508) 249-4076 <%28508%29%20249-4076>*
>>>
>>> *Ext:  44076*
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Schuh, Richard
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:59 AM
>>> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>>> *Subject:* SHUTTRAP
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my
>>> first simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did
>>> indeed trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got
>>> this:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900
>>> seconds  
>>>
>>> DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred at 81056162 in system routine
>>> WAITRD; re-IPL CMS  
>>>
>>> 15:07:56  * MSG FROM RSCHUH1 : DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths
>>> have been severed.  
>>>
>>> HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A
>>> 80F3F752   
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the documentation that would lead me to believe that
>>> this is normal; however, the documentation consists solely of the HELP file
>>> and is pretty sparse in this area. I tried reassembling the module with the
>>> same results.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> z/VM 6.1 Service Level 1002
>>>
>>> CMS 25, Service Level 002
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Richard Schuh 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kris Buelens,
>> IBM Belgium, VM customer support
>>
>
>


-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[David Boyes]

There used to be a VMWKSHP list at Marist.  Dunno if it's still active.

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Mike Walter]

Scott,

I can't speak for the unpaid volunteer organizers of the VM Workshop, but that 
certainly sounds like a fair and a good idea.

Mike Walter

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:11 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

Maybe the workshop can provide a website to share such things..   I think it's 
fine to announce these events here -- but all the attendance, lodging, etc type 
details should be discussed elsewhere (IMHO).
Scott Rohling

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mike Walter 
mailto:mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com>> wrote:
I'm not so sure... this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop.  VM is 
definitely the direct point of this list.

My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending the 
workshop.  My reply today was to answer the question asked about the source of 
that report.  But I think we're pretty much done now if that will help you any 
sleep better... don't let the bed bugs bite!  ;-)

(Now I'm all itchy!)

Mike Walter

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
[mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM

To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc?

Scott Rohling

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Jim Thomas]

Could somebody please confirm the Union Facility's address to be 1739 N.
High Street, Columbus, 
Ohio 43210. 

Do we have a common hotel that most (if not all) are going to be staying at
?. University Plaza,
Varsity Inn, Blackwell Inn ??.

Kind Regards

Jim Thomas
617-233-4130 (mobile)
636-294-1014(res)
j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email)


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:06 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

I'm the one who mentioned bed bugs on this list.  That was only after seeing
customer reviews reporting it on TripAdvisor, see:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g50226-d223766-r93110651-Varsity_
Inn-Columbus_Ohio.html

But the 'reported' problem is not confined to that hotel.  In looking for
the report pasted above, today I happened across the following.  But please
note that this site appears to report that there are many reputable hotels
in Columbus with bed bug reports:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:96qas41VFmwJ:www.raveab
le.com/oh/columbus/bed-bugs-in-hotels/l5302+varsity+inn+south+bed+bugs+colum
bus+ohio&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

The hotel I booked has one reported bed bug incident on that site, too.  It
doesn't seem as if there will be any way to avoid bed bugs across the
country until a better insecticide is discovered.  

Bed bugs are not a sign of a "bad" hotel, just the fact that someone brought
them in from somewhere else.  Without DDT (long banned for good reason) they
are very, VERY difficult to eradicate.  I agree that competitors and
disgruntled customers have been known to lie about conditions.  Take reports
with a grain of salt (and a good flashlight).  :-)

There's no good way to know how significant the problem is, or... was.  The
problem may have been corrected since the first report.  Life's
undercertain, eat dessert first!  ;-)

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Chip Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:38 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
Hotels

Sadly, it's become common practice to trash competitors in reviews on 
most online sites.  So much so that there are companies that will (for 
a fee) look for them and delete them for you.  (For all I know, the 
trashing is being done for a fee as well.)  Quite the opportunistic 
little eco-system.

I travel a lot and stay at a variety of low- to mid-tier properties, 
albeit usually ones affiliated with national brands.  I have never 
seen a bedbug, much less been bitten by one.  And yes, I've stayed at 
hostel-grade properties in NYC, Chicago, and LA.  You stay where your 
budget will allow.

I think the whole "hotel bedbug infestation" publicity is blown out of 
proportion, but I could be wrong.

-Chip-

On 6/28/11 16:57 Len Diegel said:
> I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations 
> ($69/night).  She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as 
> described in earlier notes.  She has no idea why this came up on 
> someone's site and would like to know the source.  We will be leaving 
> that hotel option on the site.
>  
> I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza.  They 
> are a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast.  The rate is 
> $89/night and we will be listing this as the "Conference Hotel".  
>  
> I hope this helps with those still in the process of deciding on rooms.
>  
> Regards,
> Len
>  
>  



-
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Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Scott Rohling]

Maybe the workshop can provide a website to share such things..   I think
it's fine to announce these events here -- but all the attendance, lodging,
etc type details should be discussed elsewhere (IMHO).

Scott Rohling

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mike Walter wrote:

> I’m not so sure… this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop.  VM is
> definitely the direct point of this list.
>
> ** **
>
> My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending
> the workshop.  My reply today was to answer the question asked about the
> source of that report.  But I think we’re pretty much done now if that will
> help you any sleep better… don’t let the bed bugs bite!  ;-)
>
> ** **
>
> (Now I’m all itchy!) 
>
> ** **
>
> Mike Walter
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
> Behalf Of *Scott Rohling
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM
>
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop
> Hotels
>
> ** **
>
> Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs,
> etc?   
>
> ** **
>
> Scott Rohling
>
> ** **
>

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Schuh, Richard]

No only is it not obvious, so far I have been unable to find it in the 
documentation. You can specify a wait state code on the SHUTDOWN command and it 
can be anything between 1 and . I cannot find where the default is FFF. Is 
that a true system default or is it a code you have adopted for your use?


Regards,
Richard Schuh






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tom Huegel
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:53 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SHUTTRAP

Thanks Kris, that is not obvious, but it makes sense..

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Kris Buelens 
mailto:kris.buel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My RxKernel has ShutTrap support.  RxServer uses WAKEUP (EXT to catch the 
interrupt.  No abends then.

And, to complete handling a shutdown signal, one is supposed to load an FFF 
wait state, not to LOGOFF.  My first attempt was to end with a LOGOFF.  But 
then our automation saw the server go logoff and started it again.  So now I 
end with the official method:
   'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'




2011/6/28 Raymond Noal mailto:raymond.n...@emc.com>>
Hello Richard,

I believe the reason for your error message in using SHUTTRAP is that SHUTTRAP 
can only issue CMS commands and not CP commands. Is the message associated with 
your SHUTTRAP issuing a CP command? I had the same problem when my message was 
a CP command. As a test for SHUTTAP I issued the CMS command 'Q DISK' and it 
worked with no error message.

Hope this helps.

Raymond E. Noal

   EMC²
where information lives

Phone: (508) 249-4076
Ext:  44076

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
[mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:59 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SHUTTRAP

I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my first 
simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did indeed 
trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got this:

SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900 seconds
DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred at 81056162 in system routine WAITRD; 
re-IPL CMS
15:07:56  * MSG FROM RSCHUH1 : DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been 
severed.
HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A 80F3F752

There is nothing in the documentation that would lead me to believe that this 
is normal; however, the documentation consists solely of the HELP file and is 
pretty sparse in this area. I tried reassembling the module with the same 
results.

z/VM 6.1 Service Level 1002
CMS 25, Service Level 002


Regards,
Richard Schuh






--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

OSA Transport Problem

[Burch, Aubrey D Mr CIV DISA CDB12]

Hello all,

I'm having a problem connecting a host to a VSWITCH that is using two
*new* OSA3 adaptors. Here's the message from the TCPIP console followed
by the explanation in the TCPIP Messages and Codes. 

ToOsd ProcessReadBuffer: Termination failure code F6

Possible LAN transport misconfiguration detected during OSD device
initialization

DTCOSD355E Possible LAN transport misconfiguration detected during OSD
device initialization Explanation: An adapter error was received during
initialization. This message is preceded by message DTCOSD066E with the
error code. Possible reasons for error code F6 are: v The adapter was
coupled to a guest LAN or virtual switch with the ETHERNET transport
type. However, the TCP/IP z/VM OSD device driver does not support this
transport type. v In a second-level virtual switch environment, there is
a mismatch between the transport defined for the virtual NIC and the
simulated OSA-Express device. Possible reason for error code 4E is: v A
virtual switch was defined with ETHERNET transport type, but the target
OSA-Express device does not support this transport.System Action: The
device is shutdown. 


I have multiple other VSWITCHES using both layer2 and layer3 transport.
It appears from the explanation that there may be either an issue with a
TCPIP 5.4 driver (not likely because I have another stack on the same
LPAR using ETHERNET layer2 on a different OSA), or perhaps there is an
issue with the OSAs. I have recycled the devices and CHPIDs at the VM
level, but have not deactivated/activated at the HMC. And yes, the
VSWITCH is defined to be ETHERNET as well as the link in the TCPIP
definitions.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Denny Burch

z/VM and z/LINUX Systems
DISA DECC Mechanicsburg
717 605-1181
(dsn) 430-1181
 

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Tom Huegel]

Thanks Kris, that is not obvious, but it makes sense..

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Kris Buelens wrote:

> My RxKernel has ShutTrap support.  RxServer uses WAKEUP (EXT to catch the
> interrupt.  No abends then.
>
> And, to complete handling a shutdown signal, one is supposed to load an FFF
> wait state, not to LOGOFF.  My first attempt was to end with a LOGOFF.  But
> then our automation saw the server go logoff and started it again.  So now I
> end with the official method:
>'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'
>
>
>
>
> 2011/6/28 Raymond Noal 
>
>>  Hello Richard,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I believe the reason for your error message in using SHUTTRAP is that
>> SHUTTRAP can only issue CMS commands and not CP commands. Is the message
>> associated with your SHUTTRAP issuing a CP command? I had the same problem
>> when my message was a CP command. As a test for SHUTTAP I issued the CMS
>> command ‘Q DISK’ and it worked with no error message.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Raymond E. Noal*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *   EMC²*
>>
>> *where information lives*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *Phone: (508) 249-4076*
>>
>> *Ext:  44076*
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
>> Behalf Of *Schuh, Richard
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:59 AM
>> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>> *Subject:* SHUTTRAP
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my first
>> simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did indeed
>> trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got this:*
>> ***
>>
>>  
>>
>> SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900
>> seconds  
>>
>> DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred at 81056162 in system routine
>> WAITRD; re-IPL CMS  
>>
>> 15:07:56  * MSG FROM RSCHUH1 : DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have
>> been severed.  
>>
>> HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A
>> 80F3F752   
>>
>>  
>>
>> There is nothing in the documentation that would lead me to believe that
>> this is normal; however, the documentation consists solely of the HELP file
>> and is pretty sparse in this area. I tried reassembling the module with the
>> same results.
>>
>>  
>>
>> z/VM 6.1 Service Level 1002
>>
>> CMS 25, Service Level 002
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>> Richard Schuh 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kris Buelens,
> IBM Belgium, VM customer support
>

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Mike Walter]

I'm not so sure... this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop.  VM is 
definitely the direct point of this list.

My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending the 
workshop.  My reply today was to answer the question asked about the source of 
that report.  But I think we're pretty much done now if that will help you any 
sleep better... don't let the bed bugs bite!  ;-)

(Now I'm all itchy!)

Mike Walter

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc?

Scott Rohling

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Scott Rohling]

Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs,
etc?

Scott Rohling

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Kris Buelens]

My RxKernel has ShutTrap support.  RxServer uses WAKEUP (EXT to catch the
interrupt.  No abends then.

And, to complete handling a shutdown signal, one is supposed to load an FFF
wait state, not to LOGOFF.  My first attempt was to end with a LOGOFF.  But
then our automation saw the server go logoff and started it again.  So now I
end with the official method:
   'CP STORE PSW 000A 8FFF'



2011/6/28 Raymond Noal 

> Hello Richard,
>
> ** **
>
> I believe the reason for your error message in using SHUTTRAP is that
> SHUTTRAP can only issue CMS commands and not CP commands. Is the message
> associated with your SHUTTRAP issuing a CP command? I had the same problem
> when my message was a CP command. As a test for SHUTTAP I issued the CMS
> command ‘Q DISK’ and it worked with no error message.
>
> ** **
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> ** **
>
> *Raymond E. Noal*
>
> * *
>
> *   EMC²*
>
> *where information lives*
>
> * *
>
> *Phone: (508) 249-4076*
>
> *Ext:  44076*
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
> Behalf Of *Schuh, Richard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:59 AM
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* SHUTTRAP
>
> ** **
>
> I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my first
> simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did indeed
> trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got this:**
> **
>
>  
>
> SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900
> seconds  
>
> DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred at 81056162 in system routine
> WAITRD; re-IPL CMS  
>
> 15:07:56  * MSG FROM RSCHUH1 : DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have
> been severed.  
>
> HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A
> 80F3F752   
>
>  
>
> There is nothing in the documentation that would lead me to believe that
> this is normal; however, the documentation consists solely of the HELP file
> and is pretty sparse in this area. I tried reassembling the module with the
> same results.
>
>  
>
> z/VM 6.1 Service Level 1002
>
> CMS 25, Service Level 002
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Mike Walter]

I'm the one who mentioned bed bugs on this list.  That was only after seeing 
customer reviews reporting it on TripAdvisor, see:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g50226-d223766-r93110651-Varsity_Inn-Columbus_Ohio.html

But the 'reported' problem is not confined to that hotel.  In looking for the 
report pasted above, today I happened across the following.  But please note 
that this site appears to report that there are many reputable hotels in 
Columbus with bed bug reports:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:96qas41VFmwJ:www.raveable.com/oh/columbus/bed-bugs-in-hotels/l5302+varsity+inn+south+bed+bugs+columbus+ohio&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

The hotel I booked has one reported bed bug incident on that site, too.  It 
doesn't seem as if there will be any way to avoid bed bugs across the country 
until a better insecticide is discovered.  

Bed bugs are not a sign of a "bad" hotel, just the fact that someone brought 
them in from somewhere else.  Without DDT (long banned for good reason) they 
are very, VERY difficult to eradicate.  I agree that competitors and 
disgruntled customers have been known to lie about conditions.  Take reports 
with a grain of salt (and a good flashlight).  :-)

There's no good way to know how significant the problem is, or... was.  The 
problem may have been corrected since the first report.  Life's undercertain, 
eat dessert first!  ;-)

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Chip Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:38 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

Sadly, it's become common practice to trash competitors in reviews on 
most online sites.  So much so that there are companies that will (for 
a fee) look for them and delete them for you.  (For all I know, the 
trashing is being done for a fee as well.)  Quite the opportunistic 
little eco-system.

I travel a lot and stay at a variety of low- to mid-tier properties, 
albeit usually ones affiliated with national brands.  I have never 
seen a bedbug, much less been bitten by one.  And yes, I've stayed at 
hostel-grade properties in NYC, Chicago, and LA.  You stay where your 
budget will allow.

I think the whole "hotel bedbug infestation" publicity is blown out of 
proportion, but I could be wrong.

-Chip-

On 6/28/11 16:57 Len Diegel said:
> I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations 
> ($69/night).  She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as 
> described in earlier notes.  She has no idea why this came up on 
> someone's site and would like to know the source.  We will be leaving 
> that hotel option on the site.
>  
> I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza.  They 
> are a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast.  The rate is 
> $89/night and we will be listing this as the "Conference Hotel".  
>  
> I hope this helps with those still in the process of deciding on rooms.
>  
> Regards,
> Len
>  
>  

Re: Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Chip Davis]

Sadly, it's become common practice to trash competitors in reviews on 
most online sites.  So much so that there are companies that will (for 
a fee) look for them and delete them for you.  (For all I know, the 
trashing is being done for a fee as well.)  Quite the opportunistic 
little eco-system.


I travel a lot and stay at a variety of low- to mid-tier properties, 
albeit usually ones affiliated with national brands.  I have never 
seen a bedbug, much less been bitten by one.  And yes, I've stayed at 
hostel-grade properties in NYC, Chicago, and LA.  You stay where your 
budget will allow.


I think the whole "hotel bedbug infestation" publicity is blown out of 
proportion, but I could be wrong.


-Chip-

On 6/28/11 16:57 Len Diegel said:
I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations 
($69/night).  She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as 
described in earlier notes.  She has no idea why this came up on 
someone's site and would like to know the source.  We will be leaving 
that hotel option on the site.
 
I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza.  They 
are a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast.  The rate is 
$89/night and we will be listing this as the "Conference Hotel".  
 
I hope this helps with those still in the process of deciding on rooms.
 
Regards,

Len
 
 

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Raymond Noal]

Hello Richard,

I believe the reason for your error message in using SHUTTRAP is that SHUTTRAP 
can only issue CMS commands and not CP commands. Is the message associated with 
your SHUTTRAP issuing a CP command? I had the same problem when my message was 
a CP command. As a test for SHUTTAP I issued the CMS command 'Q DISK' and it 
worked with no error message.

Hope this helps.

Raymond E. Noal

   EMC²
where information lives

Phone: (508) 249-4076
Ext:  44076

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:59 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SHUTTRAP

I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my first 
simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did indeed 
trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got this:

SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900 seconds
DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred at 81056162 in system routine WAITRD; 
re-IPL CMS
15:07:56  * MSG FROM RSCHUH1 : DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have been 
severed.
HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A 80F3F752

There is nothing in the documentation that would lead me to believe that this 
is normal; however, the documentation consists solely of the HELP file and is 
pretty sparse in this area. I tried reassembling the module with the same 
results.

z/VM 6.1 Service Level 1002
CMS 25, Service Level 002


Regards,
Richard Schuh

Varsity Inn North & South & University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels

[Len Diegel]

I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations  
($69/night).  She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as  
described 
in earlier notes.  She has no idea why this came up on  someone's site and 
would like to know the source.  We will be leaving that  hotel option on the 
site.
 
I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza.  They  are 
a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast.  The rate is  
$89/night and we will be listing this as the "Conference Hotel".   
 
I hope this helps with those still in the process of deciding on  rooms.
 
Regards,
Len
 
 

Re: SHUTTRAP

[Tom Huegel]

Richard,
I don't see that on my 5.4 system.
Here is how I start it.
/* */
say 'loading SHUTTRAP as a CMS nucleaus extension'
'nucxload shuttrap (system'
say 'enabling SGNLSHUT exec to process shutdown signal'
shuttrap exec sgnlshut
exit

And the sgnlshut exec.
/* exec to perform some functions before SHUTDOWN'  */
say 'Received shutdown signal -- saving "QUERY DASD"'
'pipe cp q dasd | > shutdown dasd a'
say 'done! -- waiting for shutdown'
address command cp logoff
exit

I don't really do anything with this data, just a couriosity thing.

Tom




On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Schuh, Richard  wrote:

>  I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my
> first simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did
> indeed trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got
> this:
>
> SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900
> seconds
> DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred at 81056162 in system routine
> WAITRD; re-IPL CMS
> 15:07:56  * MSG FROM RSCHUH1 : DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have
> been severed.
> HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A
> 80F3F752
>
> There is nothing in the documentation that would lead me to believe that
> this is normal; however, the documentation consists solely of the HELP file
> and is pretty sparse in this area. I tried reassembling the module with the
> same results.
>
> z/VM 6.1 Service Level 1002
> CMS 25, Service Level 002
>
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
>
>
>
>

SHUTTRAP

[Schuh, Richard]

I just retrieved SHUTTRAP from the download page and tried it. In my first 
simpleminded try, the results were mixed. The signal shutdown did indeed 
trigger the command included with the shuttrap command. Then I got this:

SHUTTRAP: Shutdown in 900 seconds
DMSITP143T Addressing exception occurred at 81056162 in system routine WAITRD; 
re-IPL CMS
 15:07:56  * MSG FROM RSCHUH1 : DMSDIE3550I All APPC/VM and IUCV paths have 
been severed.
HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 000A 80F3F752

There is nothing in the documentation that would lead me to believe that this 
is normal; however, the documentation consists solely of the HELP file and is 
pretty sparse in this area. I tried reassembling the module with the same 
results.

z/VM 6.1 Service Level 1002
CMS 25, Service Level 002



Regards,
Richard Schuh

Re: Extending DASD format?

[Leland Lucius]

On 6/28/11 9:45 AM, Richard Troth wrote:


I will, no doubt, annoy several, but I have to say it:  This is why I
recommend "LDL" (misnomer) and don't partition.


Agreed.  The only CDL formatted volumes we use are for the root disk and 
we might even do away with those during our SLES11 upgrade.  We've 
always used LDL disks for everything else.  I just never saw the benefit.


Leland

Re: Extending DASD format?

[Richard Troth]

Several have said ... create a new disk.  That's your safest bet.

To actually enlarge the existing filesystem, you still have want a new
minidisk.  Two things are then needed:  4K blocks on the "new space"
(the extension), and a fixup of the CDL partition table.  If both of
those could be had, then a DDR would handle the copying.  That's in
CMS space.  If doing it from Linux land, you would 'dd' old to new.
In either case, you would then 'resize2fs' the filesys.

I will, no doubt, annoy several, but I have to say it:  This is why I
recommend "LDL" (misnomer) and don't partition.  If you have an LDL
minidisk (only in the sense that it is *not* CDL), and you use the
"whole disk" instead of the partition, then let VM enlarge it (with
the aforementioned 4K blocking) and simply ...

resize2fs

done!

The process then becomes exactly like enlarging the filesystem of an
enlarged logical volume.  Easy.

-- R;   <><





On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 13:35, Tom Huegel  wrote:
> I have a minidisk that LINUX uses. It is defined and formatted h use CDL
> format.
> The MDISK is 100 cylinders but I want to expand it to 200 cylinders.
>
> How can I write the proper format on cylinders 99 to 199?
>
> The only way I found was to create another mdisk with 200 cylinders and
> format it, then DDR copy cyl 99 to 199 to my old disk.
> There must be a better way.
>
> Does anyone know of a utility that will format specific cylinders on a disk?
>
> Thanks