Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-28 Thread Mike Walter
While z/OS is a licensed product (and probably so is OS/390 and MVS/ESA), 
check the following page for possible legal alternatives:
http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/

I'm not an attorney (especially not an IBM attorney), and thus cannot 
offer legal advice - so note the use of the word "possible".

On the other hand, IBM sales people are often very happy to loan hardware 
and software for trial periods. 
It can't hurt to ask yours, or contact IBM or an IBM partner to ask.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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On Tuesday, 07/28/2009 at 02:59 EDT, Sergio Lima  

wrote:

> All that We tried to run ZOS17 under Z/VM, was unsucessfuly.
> How We said, this is a lab environment for us, that run under Hercules 
> emulator, and of course, We don't have much support.

It's more complicated than that, Sergio.  Two points:
1. IBM does not license z/OS to Hercules boxes, and
2. There is no such thing as "free z/OS."

It doesn't matter whether you are running z/OS at work, at home, in the 
lab, on the playground, or in a virtual machine -- there are license 
charges to use z/OS.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/28/2009 at 02:59 EDT, Sergio Lima  
wrote:

> All that We tried to run ZOS17 under Z/VM, was unsucessfuly.
> How We said, this is a lab environment for us, that run under Hercules 
> emulator, and of course, We don't have much support.

It's more complicated than that, Sergio.  Two points:
1. IBM does not license z/OS to Hercules boxes, and
2. There is no such thing as "free z/OS."

It doesn't matter whether you are running z/OS at work, at home, in the 
lab, on the playground, or in a virtual machine -- there are license 
charges to use z/OS.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-28 Thread Mike Walter
Sergio,

Telling us that you run this lab environment under Hercules provides 
significant new information, information that might have been helpful to 
know (or perhaps not) right from the first request for help.  Still, 
anything you can contribute as general knowledge should always be 
appreciated by those following in your footsteps.

I've never used Hercules, so at this point I probably wont be able provide 
much more useful assistance.  And I certainly do not know any of the legal 
implications of running licensed IBM software (even in a lab environment) 
under Hercules.

Good luck!

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.





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Hello Mr. Mike,
 
All that We tried to run ZOS17 under Z/VM, was unsucessfuly.
How We said, this is a lab environment for us, that run under Hercules 
emulator, and of course, We don't have much support.
How, with the ZOS19 version, the system is up normally for us is enough.
But, We will continue look more thinks that can do this problem.
All what We see, will put here ok ?
 
Thanks
 
Sergio
 
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:01:55 -0500
> From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> Sergio,
> 
> For the benefit of others who run into the same problem in the future, 
> would you please explain what caused the problem, and what solved it? 
This 
> discussion listserver can be searched online via the web (what a GREAT 
> tool!!) from: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html
> 
> We all learn from each other's problems/mistakes and solutions. 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Sergio Lima"  
> 
> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 
> 07/27/2009 07:43 AM
> Please respond to
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> 
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> To
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> cc
> 
> Subject
> Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Mike, and others.
> 
> We solved our problem, working with ZOS 19 .
> Now without problem, and
> Thanks very much from all help.
> 
> Sergio
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:50:03 -0500
> > From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > 
> > Sergio,
> > 
> > You sound relatively new to z/VM. I'm not sure it will help directly 
in 
> > this case, but it might be of general help to examine the redpaper 
> > "Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM" found at: 
> > 
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4507.html?Open&pdfbookmark
> > 
> > There are CP directory examples and other tips related to running 
(more 
> > than one) z/OS under z/VM. 
> > 
> > Have you opened a PMR with IBM to determine the cause of the VTAM 
abend 
> in 
> > z/OS while it is running under z/VM?
> > 
> > Mike Walter
> > Hewitt Associates
> > Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> > represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> > 
> > "The IBM z/VM Operating System"  wrote on 
> > 07/22/2009 10:22:58 AM:
> > 
> > > Hi List,
> > > 
> > > We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only 
> > > class G in the VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a 
> > > problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
> > > The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
> > > Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS 
> > > un der ZVM ?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Sergio
> > > 
> > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> > > > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> > > > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > > 
> > > > >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of 
> > > the privilege classes
> > > > >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, 
> > > but I don't think z/OS
> > > > >needs all that.
> > > > 
> > > &g

Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-28 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello Mr. Mike,
 
All that We tried to run ZOS17 under Z/VM, was unsucessfuly.
How We said, this is a lab environment for us, that run under Hercules 
emulator, and of course, We don't have much support.
How, with the ZOS19 version, the system is up normally for us is enough.
But, We will continue look more thinks that can do this problem.
All what We see, will put here ok ?
 
Thanks
 
Sergio

 
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:01:55 -0500
> From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> Sergio,
> 
> For the benefit of others who run into the same problem in the future, 
> would you please explain what caused the problem, and what solved it? This 
> discussion listserver can be searched online via the web (what a GREAT 
> tool!!) from: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html
> 
> We all learn from each other's problems/mistakes and solutions. 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Sergio Lima"  
> 
> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 
> 07/27/2009 07:43 AM
> Please respond to
> "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 
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> 
> 
> To
> IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> cc
> 
> Subject
> Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Mike, and others.
> 
> We solved our problem, working with ZOS 19 .
> Now without problem, and
> Thanks very much from all help.
> 
> Sergio
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:50:03 -0500
> > From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > 
> > Sergio,
> > 
> > You sound relatively new to z/VM. I'm not sure it will help directly in 
> > this case, but it might be of general help to examine the redpaper 
> > "Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM" found at: 
> > 
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4507.html?Open&pdfbookmark
> > 
> > There are CP directory examples and other tips related to running (more 
> > than one) z/OS under z/VM. 
> > 
> > Have you opened a PMR with IBM to determine the cause of the VTAM abend 
> in 
> > z/OS while it is running under z/VM?
> > 
> > Mike Walter
> > Hewitt Associates
> > Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> > represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> > 
> > "The IBM z/VM Operating System"  wrote on 
> > 07/22/2009 10:22:58 AM:
> > 
> > > Hi List,
> > > 
> > > We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only 
> > > class G in the VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a 
> > > problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
> > > The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
> > > Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS 
> > > un der ZVM ?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Sergio
> > > 
> > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> > > > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> > > > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > > 
> > > > >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of 
> > > the privilege classes
> > > > >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, 
> > > but I don't think z/OS
> > > > >needs all that.
> > > > 
> > > > It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of 
> > > them used to have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we 
> > > replaced that with the MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became 
> > available.
> > > > Dennis O'Brien
> > > > 
> > > > "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 
> > > 11, 20 July 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.
> > > EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> > > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > > Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > > 
> > > > >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  
> > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > -snip-
&

Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-28 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello Mr. Mike,

 

All that We tried to run ZOS17 under Z/VM, was unsucessfuly.

How We said, this is a lab environment for us, that run under Hercules 
emulator, and of course, We don't have much support.

How, with the ZOS19 version, the system is up normally for us is enough.

But, We will continue look more thinks that can do this problem.

All what We see, will put here ok ?

 

Thanks

 

Sergio
 
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:01:55 -0500
> From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> Sergio,
> 
> For the benefit of others who run into the same problem in the future, 
> would you please explain what caused the problem, and what solved it? This 
> discussion listserver can be searched online via the web (what a GREAT 
> tool!!) from: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html
> 
> We all learn from each other's problems/mistakes and solutions. 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Sergio Lima"  
> 
> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 
> 07/27/2009 07:43 AM
> Please respond to
> "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 
> 
> 
> 
> To
> IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> cc
> 
> Subject
> Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Mike, and others.
> 
> We solved our problem, working with ZOS 19 .
> Now without problem, and
> Thanks very much from all help.
> 
> Sergio
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:50:03 -0500
> > From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > 
> > Sergio,
> > 
> > You sound relatively new to z/VM. I'm not sure it will help directly in 
> > this case, but it might be of general help to examine the redpaper 
> > "Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM" found at: 
> > 
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4507.html?Open&pdfbookmark
> > 
> > There are CP directory examples and other tips related to running (more 
> > than one) z/OS under z/VM. 
> > 
> > Have you opened a PMR with IBM to determine the cause of the VTAM abend 
> in 
> > z/OS while it is running under z/VM?
> > 
> > Mike Walter
> > Hewitt Associates
> > Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> > represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> > 
> > "The IBM z/VM Operating System"  wrote on 
> > 07/22/2009 10:22:58 AM:
> > 
> > > Hi List,
> > > 
> > > We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only 
> > > class G in the VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a 
> > > problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
> > > The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
> > > Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS 
> > > un der ZVM ?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Sergio
> > > 
> > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> > > > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> > > > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > > 
> > > > >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of 
> > > the privilege classes
> > > > >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, 
> > > but I don't think z/OS
> > > > >needs all that.
> > > > 
> > > > It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of 
> > > them used to have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we 
> > > replaced that with the MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became 
> > available.
> > > > Dennis O'Brien
> > > > 
> > > > "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 
> > > 11, 20 July 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.
> > > EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> > > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > > Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > > 
> > > > >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  
> > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > -snip-
&

Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-27 Thread Mike Walter
Sergio,

For the benefit of others who run into the same problem in the future, 
would you please explain what caused the problem, and what solved it? This 
discussion listserver can be searched online via the web (what a GREAT 
tool!!) from: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html

We all learn from each other's problems/mistakes and solutions. 
Thanks!

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.




"Sergio Lima"  

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Hello Mike, and others.
 
We solved our problem, working with ZOS 19 .
Now without problem, and
Thanks very much from all help.
 
Sergio
 

 
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:50:03 -0500
> From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> Sergio,
> 
> You sound relatively new to z/VM. I'm not sure it will help directly in 
> this case, but it might be of general help to examine the redpaper 
> "Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM" found at: 
> 
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4507.html?Open&pdfbookmark
> 
> There are CP directory examples and other tips related to running (more 
> than one) z/OS under z/VM. 
> 
> Have you opened a PMR with IBM to determine the cause of the VTAM abend 
in 
> z/OS while it is running under z/VM?
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> 
> "The IBM z/VM Operating System"  wrote on 
> 07/22/2009 10:22:58 AM:
> 
> > Hi List,
> > 
> > We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only 
> > class G in the VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a 
> > problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
> > The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
> > Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS 
> > un der ZVM ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Sergio
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> > > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> > > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > 
> > > >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of 
> > the privilege classes
> > > >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, 
> > but I don't think z/OS
> > > >needs all that.
> > > 
> > > It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of 
> > them used to have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we 
> > replaced that with the MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became 
> available.
> > > Dennis O'Brien
> > > 
> > > "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 
> > 11, 20 July 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.
> > EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > 
> > > >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  
> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > -snip-
> > > > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no 
> > problem, but when 
> > > > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> > > > 
> > > > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> > > > 
> > > > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> > > -snip-
> > > > 
> > > > Someone already saw this ?
> > > 
> > > The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I 
> > would seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes 
> > from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I
> > don't think z/OS needs all that.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mark Post
> > 
> > Compartilhe os momentos mais importantes da sua vida com quem você 
> quiser.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-27 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello Mike, and others.

 

We solved our problem, working with ZOS 19 .

Now without problem, and

Thanks very much from all help.

 

Sergio

 


 
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:50:03 -0500
> From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> Sergio,
> 
> You sound relatively new to z/VM. I'm not sure it will help directly in 
> this case, but it might be of general help to examine the redpaper 
> "Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM" found at: 
> 
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4507.html?Open&pdfbookmark
> 
> There are CP directory examples and other tips related to running (more 
> than one) z/OS under z/VM. 
> 
> Have you opened a PMR with IBM to determine the cause of the VTAM abend in 
> z/OS while it is running under z/VM?
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> 
> "The IBM z/VM Operating System"  wrote on 
> 07/22/2009 10:22:58 AM:
> 
> > Hi List,
> > 
> > We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only 
> > class G in the VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a 
> > problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
> > The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
> > Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS 
> > un der ZVM ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Sergio
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> > > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> > > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > 
> > > >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of 
> > the privilege classes
> > > >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, 
> > but I don't think z/OS
> > > >needs all that.
> > > 
> > > It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of 
> > them used to have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we 
> > replaced that with the MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became 
> available.
> > > Dennis O'Brien
> > > 
> > > "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 
> > 11, 20 July 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.
> > EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > 
> > > >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  
> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > -snip-
> > > > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no 
> > problem, but when 
> > > > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> > > > 
> > > > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> > > > 
> > > > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> > > -snip-
> > > > 
> > > > Someone already saw this ?
> > > 
> > > The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I 
> > would seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes 
> > from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I
> > don't think z/OS needs all that.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mark Post
> > 
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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-23 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello Mike,

 

We downloaded this manua here, and now have in hand.

Will read now, for see some thinks that need changed.

We don't still open a PMR with IBM, I'm waiting first, if can solve alone (or 
with help list, of course).

 

Thanks

 

Sergio
 
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:50:03 -0500
> From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> Sergio,
> 
> You sound relatively new to z/VM. I'm not sure it will help directly in 
> this case, but it might be of general help to examine the redpaper 
> "Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM" found at: 
> 
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4507.html?Open&pdfbookmark
> 
> There are CP directory examples and other tips related to running (more 
> than one) z/OS under z/VM. 
> 
> Have you opened a PMR with IBM to determine the cause of the VTAM abend in 
> z/OS while it is running under z/VM?
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> 
> "The IBM z/VM Operating System"  wrote on 
> 07/22/2009 10:22:58 AM:
> 
> > Hi List,
> > 
> > We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only 
> > class G in the VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a 
> > problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
> > The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
> > Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS 
> > un der ZVM ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Sergio
> > 
> > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> > > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> > > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > 
> > > >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of 
> > the privilege classes
> > > >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, 
> > but I don't think z/OS
> > > >needs all that.
> > > 
> > > It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of 
> > them used to have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we 
> > replaced that with the MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became 
> available.
> > > Dennis O'Brien
> > > 
> > > "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 
> > 11, 20 July 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.
> > EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > > 
> > > >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  
> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > -snip-
> > > > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no 
> > problem, but when 
> > > > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> > > > 
> > > > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> > > > 
> > > > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> > > -snip-
> > > > 
> > > > Someone already saw this ?
> > > 
> > > The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I 
> > would seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes 
> > from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I
> > don't think z/OS needs all that.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mark Post
> > 
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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-23 Thread Sergio Lima

Ray,

 

We also will look for that.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Sergio
 


Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:17:27 -0400
From: ray.wat...@opensolutions.com
Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU







Sergio,
 
I found this. Maybe?
 
GOOGLE Search: VTAM Abend 0C4 VM
 
1.   IBM - HIPER Fix List for VTAM in the z/OS Communications Server
This document details the HIPER fixes for VTAM and related components on the 
z/OS ... OA25148, 08/05/19, ABEND0C4 IN ISTSSCQ2 DUE TO THE RCPSRLBP IN THE 
RDTE  WHEN RUNNING Z/OS AS A GUEST OF Z/VM 5.2 WITH A DEDICATED OSA ADAPTER
www.ibm.com/.../docview.wss?rs=852... - Cached - Similar
 
Ray Waters
 


From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Sergio Lima
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:23 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
 
Hi List,
 
We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only class G in the 
VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS un der ZVM ?
 
Thanks
 
Sergio
 
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of the 
> >privilege classes
> >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't 
> >think z/OS
> >needs all that.
> 
> It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of them used to 
> have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we replaced that with the 
> MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became available.
> Dennis O'Brien
> 
> "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 11, 20 July 
> 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Post
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> 
> >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  wrote: 
> 
> -snip-
> > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no problem, but 
> > when 
> > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> > 
> > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> > 
> > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> -snip-
> > 
> > Someone already saw this ?
> 
> The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I would 
> seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes from that 
> guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't think z/OS 
> needs all that.
> 
> 
> Mark Post



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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-23 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello Mike,

 

First, thanks very much from your help.

 

We do some changes here, like you said, and below some display of the new 
configuration of ZOS machine :

 

The console from Virtual Machine :

 

LOGON ZOS17 
ENTER PASSWORD  (IT WILL NOT APPEAR WHEN TYPED):

z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0, Service Level  (64-bit),
built on IBM Virtualization Technology  
There is no logmsg data 
FILES:   NO RDR,   NO PRT,   NO PUN 
LOGON AT 03:47:54 EDT THURSDAY 07/23/09 
CP IPL 0A80 LOADPARM 0A8200 

CP Q V STOR 
STORAGE = 2G 

 

 

The user directory entry :

 

 USER ZOS17 MIKE 2G 4G G  
 INCLUDE IBMDFLT 
 AUTOLOG AUTOLOG1 OP1 MAINT  
 ACCOUNT 1 SYSPROG   
 MACH ESA
 OPTION MAINTCCW TODENABLE LNKS LNKE LNKNOPAS CFUSER 
 CONSOLE 009 3215 T  
 SPOOL 00C 2540 READER *   

 

The ZOS17 Console :

 

*01.57.20  *IEE362A SMF ENTER DUMP FOR SYS1.MAN1 ON Z7SYS1   
*01.58.19  *BPXP007E STARTING PHYSICAL FILE SYSTEM ZFS IN ADDRESS
* SPACE ZFS  
 01.58.28   $HASP406 BPXASWAS EXECUTING  
 01.58.28   $HASP406 BPXASWAS EXECUTING  
 01.58.28   $HASP406 BPXASWAS EXECUTING  
 01.58.28   $HASP406 BPXASWAS EXECUTING  
 01.58.30   $HASP492 JES2 ALL-MEMBER WARM START HAS COMPLETED
 01.58.31   IEE041I THE SYSTEM LOG IS NOW ACTIVE 
 01.58.40 STC01118  $HASP373 VTAMAPPL STARTED
 01.58.40 STC01117  $HASP373 VTAM STARTED
 01.59.03 STC01117  IEF404I VTAM - ENDED - TIME=01.59.03 

 

How you can see, the VTAM Stop, and terminate, and, if now, when put the ZOS 
native mode, the LOG of VTAM job show the 0C4 abend.

 

We don't worry for now, with CTCA, because this environment, and We must say to 
you, is a LAB environment, and of course, after this primary problems solved, 
We will look for this.

 

For now, I will look for some other suggest that are in the list (If exist) , 
and thanks very much again.

 

Sergio

 


 
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:42:30 -0500
> From: mike.wal...@hewitt.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> Sergio,
> 
> Our mainframe network guy suggests that some messages on the z/OS log 
> before what you included might have indicated the beginning of the 
> problem. Without knowing that your ZOS17 guest only had 500M, he 
> suggested that it might be running short on storage, and that JES was 
> already complaining about storage.
> 
> Try changing
> this: USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> to: USER ZOS17 ZOS17 2G 4G G 
> z/OS is very storage hungry, stealing a "page" (forgive the pun) from the 
> old potato chip commercials is the U.S.: "Eat all you want, we'll make 
> more". Once the problem is solved you can always go back to adjust the 
> ZOS17 guest virtual storage size if the problem is eliminated.
> 
> By the way, you should change the ZOS17 userid password (the second 
> "ZOS17") to something else - hackers ALWAYS try the userid as the password 
> one of their first guesses. Besides, you already showed the password to 
> the whole world in your post).
> 
> We also noted that you only have CTCs for z/OS to use for networking. Was 
> that intentional, or are you maybe missing one or more (usually three) 
> DEDICATE statements for OSA's?
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
> represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-22 Thread Mike Walter
Sergio,

You sound relatively new to z/VM.  I'm not sure it will help directly in 
this case, but it might be of general help to examine the redpaper 
"Multiple z/OS Virtual Machines on z/VM" found at: 

 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4507.html?Open&pdfbookmark

There are CP directory examples and other tips related to running (more 
than one) z/OS under z/VM. 

Have you opened a PMR with IBM to determine the cause of the VTAM abend in 
z/OS while it is running under z/VM?

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.

"The IBM z/VM Operating System"  wrote on 
07/22/2009 10:22:58 AM:

> Hi List,
> 
> We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only 
> class G in the VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a 
> problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
> The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
> Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS 
> un der ZVM ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sergio
> 
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> > Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > 
> > >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of 
> the privilege classes
> > >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, 
> but I don't think z/OS
> > >needs all that.
> > 
> > It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of 
> them used to have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we 
> replaced that with the MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became 
available.
> > Dennis O'Brien
> > 
> > "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 
> 11, 20 July 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.
> EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> > 
> > >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  
wrote: 
> > 
> > -snip-
> > > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no 
> problem, but when 
> > > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> > > 
> > > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> > > 
> > > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> > -snip-
> > > 
> > > Someone already saw this ?
> > 
> > The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I 
> would seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes 
> from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I
> don't think z/OS needs all that.
> > 
> > 
> > Mark Post
> 
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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-22 Thread Mike Walter
Sergio,

Our mainframe network guy suggests that some messages on the z/OS log 
before what you included might have indicated the beginning of the 
problem.  Without knowing that your ZOS17 guest only had 500M, he 
suggested that it might be running short on storage, and that JES was 
already complaining about storage.

Try changing
this: USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
to:USER ZOS17 ZOS17 2G 4G G 
z/OS is very storage hungry, stealing a "page" (forgive the pun) from the 
old potato chip commercials is the U.S.: "Eat all you want, we'll make 
more".  Once the problem is solved you can always go back to adjust the 
ZOS17 guest virtual storage size if the problem is eliminated.

By the way, you should change the ZOS17 userid password (the second 
"ZOS17") to something else - hackers ALWAYS try the userid as the password 
one of their first guesses.  Besides, you already showed the password to 
the whole world in your post).

We also noted that you only have CTCs for z/OS to use for networking.  Was 
that intentional, or are you maybe missing one or more (usually three) 
DEDICATE statements for OSA's?

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.





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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-22 Thread Ray Waters
Sergio,

I found this. Maybe?

GOOGLE Search: VTAM Abend 0C4 VM

1.   IBM - HIPER Fix List for VTAM in the z/OS Communications 
Server<http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=852&context=SSSN3L&dc=DB510&uid=swg21316934&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en&rss=ct852other>
This document details the HIPER fixes for VTAM and related components on the 
z/OS ... OA25148, 08/05/19, ABEND0C4 IN ISTSSCQ2 DUE TO THE RCPSRLBP IN THE 
RDTE  WHEN RUNNING Z/OS AS A GUEST OF Z/VM 5.2 WITH A DEDICATED OSA ADAPTER
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Sergio Lima
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:23 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

Hi List,

We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only class G in the 
VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.
The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.
Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS un der ZVM ?

Thanks

Sergio

> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>
> >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of the 
> >privilege classes
> >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't 
> >think z/OS
> >needs all that.
>
> It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of them used to 
> have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we replaced that with the 
> MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became available.
> Dennis O'Brien
>
> "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 11, 20 July 
> 1969, Sea of Tranquility
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Post
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
>
> >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  wrote:
>
> -snip-
> > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no problem, but when
> > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> >
> > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> >
> > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG
> -snip-
> >
> > Someone already saw this ?
>
> The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I would 
> seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes from that 
> guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't think z/OS 
> needs all that.
>
>
> Mark Post

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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-22 Thread Sergio Lima

Hi List,

 

We already change the machine from XA to ESA, and also let only class G in the 
VM directory, but when ZOS start, again, had a problem with 0C4 in VTAM appl.

The interesting is that ZOS run ok, with VTAM if is native mode.

Someone know, if have a parameter, that is necessary to run the ZOS un der ZVM ?

 

Thanks

 

Sergio
 
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:08 -0700
> From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> 
> >In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of the 
> >privilege classes
> >from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't 
> >think z/OS
> >needs all that.
> 
> It doesn't. Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G. Some of them used to 
> have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we replaced that with the 
> MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became available.
> Dennis O'Brien
> 
> "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed". -- Apollo 11, 20 July 
> 1969, Sea of Tranquility
> 
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> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Post
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> 
> >>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  wrote: 
> 
> -snip-
> > We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no problem, but 
> > when 
> > try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> > 
> > Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> > 
> > USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG 
> -snip-
> > 
> > Someone already saw this ?
> 
> The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM. In the meantime, I would 
> seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes from that 
> guest's definition in USER DIRECT. I might be wrong, but I don't think z/OS 
> needs all that.
> 
> 
> Mark Post

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Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-21 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>In the meantime, I would seriously think about removing most of the privilege 
>classes
>from that guest's definition in USER DIRECT.  I might be wrong, but I don't 
>think z/OS
>needs all that.

It doesn't.  Our z/OS guests run just fine with class G.  Some of them used to 
have class B to run MIA's Autoattach feature, but we replaced that with the 
MULTIUSER option of DEDICATE when it became available.
    
   Dennis O'Brien

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1969, Sea of Tranquility

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:12
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

>>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  wrote: 

-snip-
> We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no problem, but when 
> try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> 
> Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> 
> USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG   
-snip-
> 
> Someone already saw this ?

The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM.  In the meantime, I would 
seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes from that guest's 
definition in USER DIRECT.  I might be wrong, but I don't think z/OS needs all 
that.


Mark Post


Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-21 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 7/21/2009 at 12:10 PM, Sergio Lima  wrote: 

-snip-
> We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no problem, but when 
> try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
> 
> Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
> 
> USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG   
-snip-
> 
> Someone already saw this ?

The way to find out is to open a PMR with IBM.  In the meantime, I would 
seriously think about removing most of the privilege classes from that guest's 
definition in USER DIRECT.  I might be wrong, but I don't think z/OS needs all 
that.


Mark Post


Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
There are some IBM products that do what gags you. RMSMASTR is one: 

   
"16:32:17  * MSG FROM RMSMASTR: DFSMS IS STARTING 
 
Virtual Machine not in XA or XC mode 
DFSMS initialization failed"

 
I don't know if there are others, but I would not be willing to bet against the 
possibility.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:58 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM
> 
> On Tuesday, 07/21/2009 at 12:34 EDT, Marcy Cortes 
>  wrote:
> > Shouldn't that be MACH ESA ?
> 
> It doesn't matter - XA is an alias for ESA in USER DIRECT.  
> (The machine 
> doesn't have a mechanism to restrict a guest to 370-XA mode.)
> 
> Sometimes a CMS-based app will issue INDICATE USER to find out and do 
> something stupid like "If not XA, then must be 370."   (gag)
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
> 

Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/21/2009 at 12:34 EDT, Marcy Cortes 
 wrote:
> Shouldn't that be MACH ESA ?

It doesn't matter - XA is an alias for ESA in USER DIRECT.  (The machine 
doesn't have a mechanism to restrict a guest to 370-XA mode.)

Sometimes a CMS-based app will issue INDICATE USER to find out and do 
something stupid like "If not XA, then must be 370."   (gag)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM

2009-07-21 Thread Marcy Cortes
Shouldn't that be MACH ESA ?

 
 

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Sergio Lima
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:10 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] VTAM Abend 0C4 under Z/VM


Hello List,
 
We have a ZOS 1.7 System here, that run in native mode, no problem, but when 
try run under Z/VM, the VTAM had a 0C4 abend.
 
Below, the user directory entry, and the log of VTAM.
 
 
USER ZOS17 ZOS17 500M 1000M ABCDEFG   
 INCLUDE IBMDFLT  
 AUTOLOG AUTOLOG1 OP1 MAINT   
 ACCOUNT 1 SYSPROG
 MACH XA