Re: [IceHorses] trivia question

2007-11-19 Thread Mic Rushen

hmm.  that sounds right... but i heard it was Neptune.!  Are neptune
and poseidon the same dude??  Just surprised me it was a seashore god
and a horse is a land animal  but cool anyway!

Poseidon is a Greek god, Neptune a Roman one. Like Poseidon, Neptune
was also worshipped by the Romans as a horse god, under the name
Neptune Equester, patron of horse-racing. Worship of Poseidon involved
the sacrificial drowning of horses, as he drives an undersea chariot
pulled by horses. He was father of the flying horse Pegasus (out of
the gorgon Medusa), and is said to have given the first horses to
Athens. Neptune, according to the Romans, invented horses.

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

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Re: [IceHorses] Fjord an Icelandic??

2007-11-19 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:54:14 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

They have been connected thru mitochondrial DNA, so
Fjord may be an ancestor of the Icelandic.

Interesting! Can you point me at the relevant study please? I thought
studies in the past (especially by Marit Jonsson) had proved there was
no connection between Fjords and Icelandics (though there is
considerable evidence to suggest that the Norwegian Dole horse is an
ancester, as well as various British pony breeds).

Mic


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Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Mic Rushen

I've just finished Water for Elephants.  Couldn't put it down...highly 
recommend!


Well, I've just ordered it from Amazon so will look forward to reading
it.

What's your favourite Tepper? Mine is probably The Family Tree, though
it's hard to decide. My first one was The Gate to Women's Country,
which I read more years ago than I like to think about.

Mic


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Re: [IceHorses] Collecting the Head?!?!

2007-11-19 Thread Mic Rushen
I would think whoever translated this had no horse knowledge - or the
person who wrote it didn't speak particularly good English! ; )

Mic


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Re: [IceHorses] my new babies

2007-11-19 Thread Mic Rushen
Aw, too cute!

I just bought a cheap incubator on ebay so we may get a few of these
too.

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

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Re: [IceHorses] Re: Boots

2007-11-19 Thread Nancy Sturm
Wow!  I wonder how they'd be to walk in.  I always ride in half chaps.
Those would eliminate the chaps.

Nancy



Re: [IceHorses] Re: Boots

2007-11-19 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 19/11/2007, Nancy  Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wow!  I wonder how they'd be to walk in.  I always ride in half chaps.
 Those would eliminate the chaps.

That's what I was thinking.

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] Tivar does hornets

2007-11-19 Thread Nancy Sturm
Wow, Janice, are all the horses okay?  We did an endurance ride last summer
that is famous for its bees.  A couple of the thinner-skinned Arabs had
pretty good reactions to the venom.  There were a couple of riders who
pulled and our daughter's mare had to be checked by a vet a couple of days
later.

And yes, you're right about allowing Tivar to escape.   For endurance
riders, the warning is Bees!  Move it!  Of course, for endurance riders,
Move it is the answer to many of life's emergencies.

It really is the only answer - get your horse away from the swarm.  Amber
Applegate makes up a homegrown concoction she swears will repel bees.  I
wasn't exactly a believer, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to apply it.
Hunter was only stung once and one sting for me.  I don't know if it was
Amber's recipe, but we will all be using it next year.

Nancy



Re: [IceHorses] trivia question

2007-11-19 Thread Anneliese Virro

On 11/16/07 7:55 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 who is the horse God in Greek mythology?
  
 Janice

Pegasus or Pegasos, the winged horse, son of the see god Poseidon.
(google that, there are various versons of the story).

-- 
Anneliese Virro
UNICORN VALLEY ICELANDICS
1800 Carter School Road
Stanford, Kentucky 40484
606-346-4963
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Re: [IceHorses] Bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Nancy Sturm
Because we are raising our second or third household of kids, I have one
last daughter to coach in the selection of husbands.  She's only 14 and has
severe cerebral palsy, so I don't think she's leaving the nest any time
soon.  My advice, Don't choose them for their bodies.  When they turn 65,
they look like Dad.  Actually, Dad is pretty curte for a short bald guy,
but as our older  daughter, whose first horrid husband was gorgeous, says,
You forget really quickly what they look like.

For horses, I do think correct conformation is a good thing, but I'd take
temperment over gorgeous any day.

Nancy



Re: [IceHorses] my new babies

2007-11-19 Thread Nancy Sturm
Ohmigosh!  What are they?

Nancy


Re: [IceHorses] Foxhunting In NC

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
  We followed
 along in the Tally-Ho wagon.  It was all veddy civilized with a
 stirrup cup of port before starting and champagne afterwards!


Trish, I would love it if you would take one of your gorses on the
hunt as a HIlltopper.  I can only imagine the comments as that can be
a very snooty crowd at times.  It would be great - they just wouldn't
get it
-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] Foxhunting In NC

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
 Trish, I would love it if you would take one of your gorses

That should be horses :-)))--
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
 Great minds think alike ;-) .  I first discovered her when we lived in the UK 
 and the local library had Beauty on the shelf.  I was hooked and have read 
 everything she wrote since.


Thanks for the heads up on this one guys - I love to learn about new
authoprs I haven't read before.  I put Beauty at the top of my
Booksfree list.

-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] OT-Parrots

2007-11-19 Thread Anneliese Virro
 
 Seriously, if you know you will be away for more than 7-14 days at a time,
 several weeks a year - well, that might mean that a parrot isn't the best
 pet for you.  Unless you want to buy an RV, so they can always be with you
 in a climate-controlled environment!  (Seriously, Cary thinks we'll do that
 someday...but an RV that will pull a 24-horse-trailer...?  I think we'll
 need our own private rail-line!)
 
 
 Karen Thomas
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Karen:

That is what I was afraid of. So the caretaker would have to be available
before we can get a parrot because we do have to go abroad (at least to
Estonia) at least once or twice a year. Oh well.

Anneliese




Re: [IceHorses] Bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Anneliese Virro

On 11/17/07 5:56 PM, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Is Scooter an import?
 
 
 He is supposed to be. I have no papers but he was
 advertised as imported.
 
   Lorraine

So I would guess that he is probably not really bolting but thinks that
speed is what is wanted. I had an import from Iceland who would take off
like a bat our of hell the minute you got on; she was also very sensitive to
having her sides touched. I finally concluded that she was trained to do
that in Iceland and that if she did not go and go fast right away, she got
hit with a whip. 

So I rode her in a confined space and praised her for going slow. It took a
while but she finally understood that speed is not always wanted.

Anneliese




Re: [IceHorses] Ricky Bobby

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
 which is so stupid!  Gosh why do horse people say THAT!!!  If a person
 is so afraid to get on a horse that they need to callm yourself,
 think calming thought, control your heartbeat!


All someone has to do is to tell me to relax and I'll tense up like a
piano wire.

-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


[IceHorses] Generator Safety Article

2007-11-19 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
http://www.alfaaic.com/MrktgTips/Electric_Generator.pdf

Thought this might be of interest to some of y'all! :)

Steph

-- 
Brutality begins where skill ends.
Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for
rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels.
Von Niendorff


Re: [IceHorses] Boots

2007-11-19 Thread susan cooper

--- Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone own a pair of these?
 
 http://www.equestrian-tack.com/neduribo.html
 

I don't own them, but they certainly are pricey!!!  I
have a pair of winter boots from Lands End.  If you
look at their winter hikig boots, a lot of them have
heels and they are good for riding.  Plus, they are cheaper!!!

Susan in NV   
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Re: [IceHorses] Boots

2007-11-19 Thread Nancy Sturm
They are expensive, but if you add the cost of a pair of riding boots to the
cost of half chaps, the total is lower.

Nancy



Re: [IceHorses] my new babies

2007-11-19 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island

--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 happy easter
 janice



I just love Ducks!  We have a JRT that will not allow me to have them
any longer, we are still trying to figure out a way to have her and
the ducks
I go to Wailua lake to watch the ducks and the herons play now  :(


Skye


[IceHorses] Re: Fox's shape

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
thats proper english attire by the way, a liz and jane tunic dress
over a tee shirt and tights.  you have to have a really handsome horse
to get away with this outfit.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Icehorses sweating

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/17/07, Narnia Fell Ponies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Reading your mails about sweating Icelandics I remembered an article I've 
 read a while ago. The author of this article sees a connection betwenn 
 sweating / non-sweating in the Icelandics and sweet itch. Unfortunately the 
 article is written in German, but possibly a German member of the group 
 can/could translate an abstract of it.

 http://www.taktklar.de/taktklar/documents/18082000-01.htm



can you give me the gist?  I am on dialup at home.  I will read the
whole thing later.  but does it say sweating leads to SE or non
sweating...

i would guess sweating, because sweating attracts gnats, right?
smelliness attracts gnats.  a moist environment attracts gnats.

Because even when not sweating my horse's eyes attract gnats, and
their sheathes.  Where things are moist and also can be smelly :)

Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Hoof problems

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
a good way to apply is to take a syringe and put the medicine,
whatever you use, and put the needle barely in the cracks and squirt
real forcefully and get it all up in there.  Is exspecially good if
you have some hoof wall separation.  or you could make them stand the
foot in something where the solution is deep enough.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Hoof problems, rain rot

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
right now my horses have something weird!  I am familiar with most
types of rainrot, but this is little, small, like pencil eraser sized
nubby bumps and so far the hair isnt falling out but if you scratch it
with your fingernail it comes off easily and is like scaley dust.  And
betadine didnt help it.  So next is bleach.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Hoof problems, rain rot

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
there are so many varieties of things...  one time I waded on a shore
near a papermill and I got the weirdest little fungus or whatever, it
spread and was composed of large pus-filled bumops and right in the
center of each one was a big round black dot.  I told my husband it
was bubonic plague.  It was very hard to cure until I poured straight
bleach on it.  It hurt really bad but killed it instantly!  lord only
knows. some papermill rot deal...--
yipie tie yie yo


[IceHorses] the holiday

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
my daughter will be here tomorrow night and the whole house is a wreck
and i was supposed to clean all day but went riding instead and the
spare bedroom has a smelly incubator that needs sterilizing and a big
box full of baby ducks and once my daughter gets here oh lord forget
it, nothing will get done for a week.  I just hope none of the dogs
get into the room if she leaves the door open and walks out with
little duck feet hanging out the corner of its mouth.  that could
throw a pall on the whole dinner thing.
janice

-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Fjord an Icelandic??

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
she is awesome.  What are the 10% other colors Cherie??  I thought
they only came in that one color...
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


[IceHorses] Re: Fjord an Icelandic?

2007-11-19 Thread Victoria
Hi!

Here in Norway there are (naturally) a lot of Fjords, and though they
are thought to be quite stubborn, the fjord is also a very versatile
breed. Here it's used both in light farm work - in the forest etc..
Presciciondriving, marathon and those kind of things.. But also in
jumping, dressage etc. A lot of fjords have quite a personality! But I
don't think i would ever own one - I'm having a good time with my
Icelandics:)

Here is a link to the Nordic Championships that were held i Denmark
this august: (lots of pictures!)

http://www.fjordhest.no/bilder.asp?mode=viskat=30 

Victoria



RE: [IceHorses] Hoof problems

2007-11-19 Thread Mary
 
 Betadine is not antifungal? I use betadine or diluted iodine on
 rain rot and
 it works. And rain rot is caused by a fungus isn't it? I am going
 to have to
 read up on that.

The betadyne or diluted iodine is probably just drying out the rain rot, but
not necessarily killing it.

Mary Dudley, LVT




Re: [IceHorses] Fox's shape

2007-11-19 Thread Raven
 Fence? What fence?

good job mic!


Re: [IceHorses] my new babies

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/19/07, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Aw, too cute!

 I just bought a cheap incubator on ebay so we may get a few of these
 too.

 Mic


I got the hovabator on ebay :)  Hey, I used to have a lousy hatch rate
til I got rid of the automatic turner.  My friend susan told me if
you turn by hand three times a day you get a better hatch rate, that
its natures way, you are handling the eggs in a manner more like a
mother hen.  i thought well, the temps would drop and affect things
but she said no, the mother hen usually leaves the nest briefly once a
day to take care of her needs, its natures way, and it works!  Just
get the temps perfectly on 100 and then put the eggs in.  I got these
eggs from a person who sells Indian Runner Duck Asst on ebay and
last time man I got one of the most incredible beautiful ducks!  Color
and markings like a brown quail!  But I have such a high coyote
disappearance rate.  I lose so many.

Now I have coming some more golden phoenix, the chickens with long
tails.  I see on ebay they have some AWESOME hatching eggs in the UK
but i think that would be too far and too long a trip and too much
jostling for egg viability.  I have only been ripped off once on ebay,
where none of the eggs were fertile and the person refused to stand by
it in any way.

But seems every time i buy chicks from the feed store they die.

I see in the UK you can get incredible exotic hatching eggs for
chickens we dont have here, or they are rare.  Like Cuckoo maran etc.

For egg chickens I like buff orpingtons and they are hard to find here
so I get the eggs on ebay, and I see they have tons of them in the UK.

hey maybe there is a chicken list...  i never looked.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Collecting the Head?!?!

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/19/07, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would think whoever translated this had no horse knowledge - or the
 person who wrote it didn't speak particularly good English! ; )




haha, for a minute i thought you were referring to my post.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


[IceHorses] janices morning prayer

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
Dear Baby Jesus,

I know I have been messing up and should have been cleaning house
every waking minute since last thursday evening.  or honestly, it
wouldnt have hurt to have started on it three years ago.  But now my
company is coming in this evening and Jesus?  I swear if you will just
make me get up from this computer and no!  Don't EVEN let me go
outside and look around and think, you know, I need to clean house,
but I think TODAY is the day when I will actually train Nasi to dive
off the porch into a bucket of water and then people will be driving
up and car doors will be slamming and it will be dark and I will be
outside in my nightgown with Nasi in the porch swing and well, again
Jesus, I'm sure we would have those old tiresome discussions about
intervention and mental health.

So if you could just once again, cut me a little slack and somehow
miraculously send a little motivation my way Baby jesus I would be
deeply deeply grateful.  Not where I would actually attend the Sandy
Mountain Church of Fountain down the street (there are no mountains
within 900 miles), but I swear I would take some food or wash dishes
at the rescue mission again.  Thank you.
Your miscreant liege
Janice

-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] my new babies

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
i went to get a peacock once from a place where they had some of these
really rare incredible peacocks that sell for like 700 dollars each
and the man didnt even have an incubator, he had a bunch of cochin
hens sitting in nest boxes and he would just put the eggs under them.
They say if you put hatching eggs under a real hen even for just a
couple of days you will have a way better hatch rate and I tried that
and its true.  No scientific explanation for it but I swear, it was
the only time i had a total 100% hatch rate.  going now to clean out
my smelly incubator before company gets here and yet again assume I am
insane.

I know people will say, why on earth would she leave eggs in the
incubator til they smell...  but after they hatch and make the
incubator water smell to high heaven, you cant just takes the eggs all
out.  Some hatch late, and if you take all the eggs out the temp goes
haywire so you have to wait a few days until people think you are
nuts...

I am so glad we are having these egg discussions Mic.  its fascinating.
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] my new babies

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
somebody make me get up and go clean the house I beg you.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Tivar does hornets

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
 It really is the only answer - get your horse away from the swarm.  Amber
 Applegate makes up a homegrown concoction she swears will repel bees.  I
 wasn't exactly a believer, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to apply it.
 Hunter was only stung once and one sting for me.  I don't know if it was
 Amber's recipe, but we will all be using it next year.

 Nancy


flame me, but I am a believer in OFF insect repellent which my husband
gets mad at me for.  But it really works for keeping hornets away.  I
did not use any yesterday cause it was cool and dry and i didnt hink
it would be buggy.  My mistake!  I forgot about hornets.  or maybe
these were yellowjackets.  They came from a hole in the ground, not a
nest in a tree.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] my new babies

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/19/07, Nancy  Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ohmigosh!  What are they?

 Nancy



They are baby Indian Runner Ducks.  I bought the hatching eggs off
ebay and hatched them in my incubator.  They are already running
around splashing like crazy in a bowl of water :)
janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
I  have almost bought the Water for Elephants book a couple of times
but was afraid it would be too sad.  sometimes I cant take a sad sad
book.  and I have a thing about elephants in captivity.  but now I
think I will try it next.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


[IceHorses] Re: ok i mean it

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
an hour later---

ok this time i really really REALLY mean it.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Turkeys and OT turkey question

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/16/07, Anneliese Virro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Janice: Stupid question: why don't you just eat them? Or have you named
 them?

 Anneliese


now and then I have to kill a baby chick cause it is hurt or deformed
and every time I kill something I almost vomit and blubber crying and
feel upset and distraught for a couple of hours later, at least.  I am
not good at killing things...  At least three times in my life I have
almost rolled my car trying to avoid hitting a critter on the highway,
even a stupid possum.

I am just hoping God will reach down from heaven and take these turkeys HOME.

Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Boots

2007-11-19 Thread Lorraine


 Does anyone own a pair of these?

Those are so cute.  They look too warm for me

  Lorraine


  

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Re: [IceHorses] Darn, that Xylophone

2007-11-19 Thread Lorraine

 Darn, Charm is NOT the first horse to play a
 xylophone!  

Bust Charm is much much cuter Judy.

  Lorraine


  

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Re: [IceHorses] Bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Lorraine
 like a bat our of hell the minute you got on; she
 was also very sensitive to
 having her sides touched. I finally concluded that
 she was trained to do
 that in Iceland and that if she did not go and go
 fast right away, she got
 hit with a whip. 


Judy told me Icelandics were taught to go fast by
hitting them.  Well,that day he was being a butthead. 
He didn't want to go.  So I wacked him with the reins
on the shoulder.  That is when he bucked and took off.
 Other times he was just scared. I don't know what the
difference between bolting and running off are.  But I
don't like either of them

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Re: [IceHorses] Fox's shape

2007-11-19 Thread Anna Hopkins
On Nov 19, 2007 4:04 AM, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fence? What fence?
 ; )

 Mic

You are so talented!  I am so jealous


-- 
Anna
Southern Ohio


Re: [IceHorses] the holiday- baby ducks

2007-11-19 Thread Nancy Sturm
You think?  Our Jack Russell (a rescue, bless her) got into the chicken pen
on Easter Sunday and horrified the children at the Easter egg hunt by
dragging two dead  hens, part of Stephanie's 4-H project, through the yard.
She was NOT a popular dog.

Nancy



Re: [IceHorses] OT - Love in the Times of Cholera

2007-11-19 Thread Raven
  Is that at the movies now???

Yes...opened last Friday.  ;]

Raven
Lucy  Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn  Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze

Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.


Re: [IceHorses] my new babies

2007-11-19 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:13:58 -0600, you wrote:

I see in the UK you can get incredible exotic hatching eggs for
chickens we dont have here, or they are rare.  Like Cuckoo maran etc.

For egg chickens I like buff orpingtons and they are hard to find here
so I get the eggs on ebay, and I see they have tons of them in the UK.

There's certainly all sorts on UK ebay. We have Light Sussex, Cuckoo
Marans, Welsummer, Black Rock, Calder Ranger and Silkies. Plus a
couple of little ducks, too.

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

---
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www.solva-icelandics.co.uk
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Re: [IceHorses] Icehorses sweating

2007-11-19 Thread Judy Ryder

German, but possibly a German member of the group can/could translate an 
abstract of it.

 http://www.taktklar.de/taktklar/documents/18082000-01.htm


Maybe Anneliese can help us with this.

Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com 



Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Anna Hopkins
I am not one for being the first one on the block to buy a new toy,
but when I saw this on Good Morning America and then checked out the
website, I had to order one.  It's a new electronic wireless reading
device.  You can have 200 books on the unit at a time and it will
store more than that for you.  I am too excited.  Buying the books are
cheaper too!  Guess I'll have to buy a lot of books to cover the price
of the unit, but oh well it's cool.  Will be great for traveling.  I
always pack too many books because I don't know what I'll be in the
mood for and how many I'll be able to read.  Check it out

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Amazons-Wireless-Reading-Device/dp/B000FI73MA/ref=sr_na_1?ie=UTF8qid=1195494081sr=1-1

If the address is too long (I don't know how to do tiny url Go to
Amazon.com and type in Kindle.

Anna


Re: [IceHorses] Bolting

2007-11-19 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 07:54:27AM -0800, Lorraine wrote:
 Judy told me Icelandics were taught to go fast by
 hitting them.  Well,that day he was being a butthead. 
 He didn't want to go.  So I wacked him with the reins
 on the shoulder.  That is when he bucked and took off.
  Other times he was just scared. I don't know what the
 difference between bolting and running off are.  But I
 don't like either of them

stjarni (icelandic-trained by an actual icelander) has run
away with me twice.  once a belgian was bearing down behind
us on a narrow trail, and he was getting out of the way, which
was a good idea.  the other time he was racing another horse
(his subordinate in the paddock) and i got scared of the speed,
and i tried to sit down and take up reins (his cue i think for
the flying pace); he slowed down as soon as i asked him to turn.

i ride with a dressage whip most of the time.  i use it to ask 
stjarni to put his hindquarters or his foreleg here or there, or
to brush of flies that are out of reach.  it certainly does not
make him go any faster.  (i've tried that, times he was being a
butthead and not wanting to go; it simply doesn't work for that.
he did offer me some lovely lateral work instead, though :/ )

--vicka


[IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread pippa258
What's your favourite Tepper? Mine is probably The Family Tree, though it's 
hard to decide. My first one was The Gate to Women's Country, which I read 
more years ago than I like to think about.Mic

For me, it's a tie between Grass and Family Tree. Love the otherworldliness 
of Grass.  

Trish




Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
On 11/19/07, Anna Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not one for being the first one on the block to buy a new toy,


When Cherie was here dropping off Mura, she had her E-Reader which is
similar to this and it is so cool, it is definitely on my wish list.
If I remember, though, she had to hook up to the computer to download
books and it seems like the books from her library were a little more
expensive.  Hers did come with 100 of the classics already loaded,
though. - With hers you can download any of your books on the reader
to a library disk and can have almost limitless # of books.  Are you
limited as to the number of books you can have with this?  These are
just so cool and definitely a neat toy if you read a lot.

Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


[IceHorses] Was Reading? Virginia? Now Books to Read

2007-11-19 Thread pippa258
 Thanks for the heads up on this one guys - I love to learn about new 
authoprs I haven't read before. I put Beauty at the top of my Booksfree 
list.

Hi Laree,

Poor Virginia...her name keeps cropping up in the subject...and we've 
drifted off to sci-fi land.

It's an interesting twist on Sleeping Beauty.  You might really enjoy 
Family Tree too.  And there are some horses in Beauty just to keep 
this post somewhat horse-related ;-)

Trish






[IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread pippa258
Trish, I would love it if you would take one of your gorses on thehunt 
as a HIlltopper. I can only imagine the comments as that can bea very 
snooty crowd at times. It would be great - they just wouldn't get it

Did you see the picture of the pony called Frank the Tank?  He was 
definitely not a typical looking hunter!  There were quite a lot of 
draft crosses - not very refined looking at all.  Everyone on the 
Tally-Ho wagons was very nice but I do know what you mean about snooty.  
I found it more amongst the younger riders.  The older ones were very warm.

Trish



[IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread pippa258
Trish, I would love it if you would take one of your gorses on thehunt 
as a HIlltopper. I can only imagine the comments as that can bea very 
snooty crowd at times. It would be great - they just wouldn't get it

I wonder how long it would take me to braid Kopar's mane?!

Did you see the picture of the pony called Frank the Tank?  He was 
definitely not a typical looking hunter!  There were quite a lot of 
draft crosses - not very refined looking at all.  Everyone on the 
Tally-Ho wagons was very nice but I do know what you mean about snooty.  
I found it more amongst the younger riders.  The older ones were very warm.

Trish



Re: [IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On Nov 19, 2007 2:26 PM, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder how long it would take me to braid Kopar's mane?!

Lend me a pony and I'll braid manes and tails for you! ;)

Steph
-- 
Brutality begins where skill ends.
Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for
rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels.
Von Niendorff


[IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread pippa258
I  have almost bought the Water for Elephants book a couple of times but was 
afraid it would be too sad.  sometimes I cant take a sad sad book.  and I 
have a thing about elephants in captivity.  but now I think I will try it 
next. Janice--

I think you will do just fine with how things turn out  ;-) 

Trish





Re: [IceHorses] Was Reading? Virginia? Now Books to Read

2007-11-19 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:37 -0500, you wrote:

And there are some horses in Beauty just to keep 
this post somewhat horse-related ;-)

And even more in Grass. And foxhunting too!
; )

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

---
Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: 
www.solva-icelandics.co.uk
---
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes



Re: [IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
  Everyone on the
 Tally-Ho wagons was very nice but I do know what you mean about snooty.
 I found it more amongst the younger riders.  The older ones were very warm.


I'm not sure how this group is, but the one time I rode with the hunt,
I really thought I was going to die - what a group of wild people!
Luckily I was riding an old campaigner that someone had lent me so he
knew just what to do and how to keep us safe but there were people
falling off left and right and they seemed to think that was normal.
They had at least 3-4 people break bones sometime each season.  Of
course, this was all heightened by the fact that flasks were
generously used (I have nothing against alcohol, but never when I'm
getting on a horse) and several of these folks didn't know anything
about horses - just kept them so they could enjoy the social aspects
of the Hunt Club. It was one of the wildest experiences of my riding
career - not one I repeated.  I found out later this was their
toughest course - biggest jumps and steep, slippery down hills and
lots of hairpin turns on narrow wooded paths at full tilt. I just
turned it over to my horse and he brought me home in one piece.
-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On Nov 19, 2007 2:57 PM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure how this group is, but the one time I rode with the hunt,
 I really thought I was going to die - what a group of wild people!

The hunt I've associated with wasn't wild at all. I enjoyed hilltoping
with them.

Steph
-- 
Brutality begins where skill ends.
Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for
rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels.
Von Niendorff


Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman

 I think you will do just fine with how things turn out  ;-)


Yes, the end is very satifying - not like some books that either end
up too sweet or just disappoint.  For those of you not familar with
the author, Sarah Gruen, she wrote 2 very horse oriented books, Flying
Changes and Riding Lessons.  Those are good but Water for Elephants is
definitely her best.

-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
 The hunt I've associated with wasn't wild at all. I enjoyed hilltoping
 with them.


Yes, but did you ever get down in the action with them? - you just
can't appreciate the craziness of it until you're in the middle of it
- especially if it's a big sized group, which this was.

Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread Stephanie Caldwell
On Nov 19, 2007 3:04 PM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, but did you ever get down in the action with them? - you just
 can't appreciate the craziness of it until you're in the middle of it
 - especially if it's a big sized group, which this was.

I never rode with first flight, but I did spend alot of time with them
and went out on the four wheeler as the first aid person some since I
only had a very green horse back then.

Sorry if I sounded snippy, a clients horse is at the clinic today with
a very bad colic. I spent several hours with them and the vet last
night and she's worse today. It breaks my heart for them, she's a
sweet mare. Between her and some problems at home with my fiance I
want to find a hole to crawl into today and cry.

Steph
-- 
Brutality begins where skill ends.
Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for
rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels.
Von Niendorff


Re: [IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
 I just
 turned it over to my horse and he brought me home in one piece.


It's a neat story about the horse I rode that day.   His name was
Bowling Green and he was owned by a gentleman that started a textile
company that made a huge percentage of the denim sold in the US along
with other textiles - it was a huge comapny.  He had a farm that when
he bought it was mostly in the country on the edge of town but the
town grew up around it.  When his company became so big he needed
international headquarters he built this big and very modern (at the
time) building on the land  but he left the barn and some pasture
because he never wanted to make Bowling Green move . When the company
was sold one of the clauses was that as long as Bowling Green lived
they couldn't tear down the barn or build anything on his pasture and
he was to get daily care.  It was always funny to see this big modern
building with a barn and horse tucked behind it. Many people never
knew it was there, though.  Unfortunatly, when they made all these
arrangements they forgot to stipulate that BG needed a companion and
he spent his last years alone.  I often took him treats and spent some
time with him when I could because his owner died but  I understood
how he felt that BG had taken care of him so many times on the hunt
course.  He was a grand old horse.

-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] Bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 stjarni (icelandic-trained by an actual icelander) has run
 away with me twice.

none of my horses (redneck doofus trained by redneck doofus me) have
ever bolted, bucked, or purposefully bitten me.  Not even Tivar
yesterday, being swarmed by yellowjackets. and of the 7 equines I own,
5 are rescues/rehabs.  Fox was a rearer and a flipper but he only
reared once with me, the first time I ever rode him.  I can whack any
of my horses as hard as I can between the ears with a crop (and I do
it all the time to kill yellow flies etc) and they dont even blink.
I've had two riding lessons.  One from an idiot five years ago and one
two weeks ago where I learned a little but ignored a lot.

I dont know why horses act out, but i believe its like parelli says
--- if you back a horse into a corner he is gonna show you whats in
his bag of tricks.  I dont think icelander trainers, per se, are evil,
i personally just believe 99.9% of ALL trainers are satanically evil.
I have seen dozens and dozens and I've only seen maybe two good ones.
I have watched people give lessons all day at barn facilities and It
has been my considered opinion that 99.9% of all people who give
lessons are in it for the money, know less than almost anybody out
there about horses who actually rides them all the time, and I've only
seen one I would trust someone I cared about to take lessons from
them.  Most were money grubbing dressage queens graduated up from
dressage brats, who decided when they were too old to take lessons
anymore they needed to put out a shingle and give them.  this is my
experience, not only my opinion.

your horse must have been new to you Lorraine when he did that,
otherwise it would not have startled him for you to whack him.  Or
else someone in the past has seriously whacked him.  My Fox was hit in
the face with a fist and is so headshy I have to ask people to please
not reach to pet him when I am in the saddle cause he throws his head
in my face.

The bad thing with some really smart horses is they never ever EVER
forget what someone has taught them, good or bad.

and I believe most horses won't hurt someone on purpose, deliberately.
 My most dangerous horse stonewall is my most loving.  he just gets
too freaked out sometimes and I cant get him back, he jumps and spins
and whirls but stops, and the time he hurt me really bad by spinning
he fought my husband trying to stay beside me when he tried to lead
him away.  he didnt mean it, but that doesnt make him less dangerous.
he is my only horse that has been professionally trained.
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] the holiday- baby ducks

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/19/07, Nancy  Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You think?  Our Jack Russell (a rescue, bless her) got into the chicken pen
 on Easter Sunday and horrified the children at the Easter egg hunt by
 dragging two dead  hens, part of Stephanie's 4-H project, through the yard.
 She was NOT a popular dog.

 Nancy



HAHAHAHAHA  oh gosh this sounds like one of my stories!
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Collection and the Gaited Horse

2007-11-19 Thread iceryder
I have to admit, that I agree with his assessment above.
http://iceryder.net/icecollection.html


 Having come from a mostly dressage background, this has been my
 feeling all along, too.  I know this debate has been tossed around
 many times but to me there is just no question that he is correct.

It's pretty easy to see that the hindquarters are not engaged in tolt.  It's 
pretty easy to see that the back is not in bascule in tolt.  It's pretty 
easy to see that the neck is not telescoped in tolt.

If one looks only at the head, it may be confusing.  But if one looks only 
at the head, it's the wrong place to look!

The set of the head (where the horse places his head when the components of 
collection are in place) is a gift that the horse gives the rider, and it 
will appear with draped reins (per the masters), and not with contact.

Icelandic trainers haven't yet started studying equine biomechanics.  For 
education and information, we look to those who are familiar with that area.

Here's an interesting discussion on raising the base of the neck:

http://esiforum.mywowbb.com/forum1/116.html

Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com 



Re: [IceHorses] the holiday- baby ducks

2007-11-19 Thread toltallyice
Okay I have a Janice story I think it can compare, barely maybe, but 
compare.

Oh and I'm in town babysitting 4 grandkids, that's my excuse for not getting 
the house cleaned for Thanksgiving Janice what is yours? Are you done??  :o)

We're all sitting at the table having thanksgiving dinner, company and all. Big 
picture window beside the beautiful Thanks Giving feast. Outside under the 
picture window is a picnic table.

Our Newfoundland Bruneau jumps up on the picnic table with a big old, stiff, 
dead squirrel in his mouth! just feet away from our lovely meal Fore lorn 
eyes asking to join the feast, even brought his own meal!

:o)

Cheryl
Sand Creek Icelandics
www.sandcreekicelandics.com


RE: [IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread Karen Thomas
 Yes, but did you ever get down in the action with them? - you just
can't appreciate the craziness of it until you're in the middle of it -
especially if it's a big sized group, which this was.


Was that the hunt club in Greensboro?  I've heard that's a pretty diehard
group!


Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] the holiday- baby ducks

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
 Our Newfoundland Bruneau jumps up on the picnic table with a big old,
 stiff, dead squirrel in his mouth! just feet away from our lovely meal
 Fore lorn eyes asking to join the feast, even brought his own meal!




What a picture that paints :-)))


 Laree in NC
 Doppa  Mura
 Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

 Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the
 horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  - William
 Farley



Re: [IceHorses] Bolting

2007-11-19 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 03:34:52PM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote:
  stjarni (icelandic-trained by an actual icelander) has run
  away with me twice.

i think isolating this sentence makes it sound like stjarni was doing
something wrong.  i don't think that is correct.  i think that when we
were being run down by the out-of-control belgian, getting the heck out
of the way as fast as possible was the best course of action.  and i
think my failure to correctly understand how to cue him to slow down was
what allowed it to happen the second time; he was not actually out of
control, as demonstrated by the fact that i could turn him and he slowed
down for me as soon as i did that (i.e. asked for something in a way he
understood).

nor has he ever bucked or reared under saddle, nor bitten (except the
stray unseen finger too-clumsily offering him a treat), nor kicked.

i'm glad your horses are so nice, too.

 if you back a horse into a corner he is gonna show you whats in
 his bag of tricks.  

i don't think i've ever seen stjarni feel backed into a corner, except
that time on the trail with the belgian galloping at us.  he's a brave 
guy.  he's handled being surrounded by police scooters with lights and 
sirens going and ten-year-olds crawling under his belly with the same
mild aplomb.  i've never met a more trustworthy horse.

 I have watched people give lessons all day at barn facilities and It
 has been my considered opinion that 99.9% of all people who give
 lessons are in it for the money, know less than almost anybody out
 there about horses who actually rides them all the time, and I've only
 seen one I would trust someone I cared about to take lessons from
 them.  Most were money grubbing dressage queens graduated up from
 dressage brats, who decided when they were too old to take lessons
 anymore they needed to put out a shingle and give them.  this is my
 experience, not only my opinion.

i'll try not to take it personally, despite my dubeity about your
ability to statistically handle numbers.  i don't believe anyone is ever
too old to take lessons; i have students older than myself, and i think
most of my instructors have been younger than i.  perhaps the fact that
my state requires apprenticeships and exams and licensure for riding
instructors raises the quality around here relative to where you live.
 
--vicka


RE: [IceHorses] Foxhunting in NC

2007-11-19 Thread Karen Thomas
  Yes, that's the one - that was quite a while back, though, so who knows
how they are now.


The stories I heard were from the late 1980's and the early 1990's, when my
good friend lived in the area.  I haven't heard anything more recently than
that...but I heard a LOT back then!


Karen Thomas, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] Fox's shape

2007-11-19 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Nov 19, 2007 5:04 AM, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fence? What fence?

How did you do that?!
V


Re: [IceHorses] Was Reading? Virginia? Now Books to Read

2007-11-19 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Nov 19, 2007 3:21 PM, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Poor Virginia...her name keeps cropping up in the subject...and we've
 drifted off to sci-fi land.


I'm a SF fan too so that's OK!
:D
V


RE: [IceHorses] Fox's shape

2007-11-19 Thread Karen Thomas
 Look at fox's beautiful shape. 


Fox is one gorgeous horse. 


Karen Thomas
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[IceHorses] bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Docnshop2
I just returned from the KY Icelandic Horse Show.  I had a nice  conversation 
with Gunnar of Klakahorse Icelandics.  Most of you probably  know that Gunnar 
is Icelandic and his wife Stephanie is American.  We did  briefly discuss 
horse bolting and not wanting to stop.  He said in Iceland  all they want is 
for 
them to go and go really fast.  A lot of large farms  with really great 
competition riders never teach the horse to stop or stand  still to get on.  He 
commented that it took him a while to learn that  Americans want a horse that 
stands still to mount and has good brakes.  He  also said that in Iceland if a 
horse runs away they just kick it to make it go  faster because it will 
eventually stop.  
 
  Renee



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Re: [IceHorses] bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Cherie Mascis
He  also said that in Iceland if a 
horse runs away they just kick it to make it go  faster because it will 
eventually stop.  
 
That would work better in Iceland where you don't have trees to crash into!

Cherie


Re: [IceHorses] bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Laree Shulman
On 11/19/07, Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 He  also said that in Iceland if a
 horse runs away they just kick it to make it go  faster because it will
 eventually stop.

 That would work better in Iceland where you don't have trees to crash into!


Or roads to cross with people that wouldn't know to slow down - the
road is my biggest fear with a runaway horse..
-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] Fox's shape

2007-11-19 Thread kim shumaker
 I love this pic, i wish the dang fence wasnt in the
 way.  Look at
 fox's beautiful shape.  He is loving on me while the
 old man was
 fiddling with him haha
 Janice

He's beautiful!


  

Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
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Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Anna Hopkins
On Nov 19, 2007 2:18 PM, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Are you
 limited as to the number of books you can have with this?  These are
 just so cool and definitely a neat toy if you read a lot.


No computer needed for the downloands.  It will hold 200 books, but
Amazon will hold these plus as many others as you want so you can have
them in your storage when you want to retrieve them and I guess in
case your unit becomes lost/stolen/broken etc., you'll still have
them.  You can also 'mark' pages and put notes on the page or
highlight passages.  I just ordered Water for Elephants for under $7
and You, Staying Young... off the bestsellers list for 9.99.  Says it
will be on my Kindle when it shows up.  We'll see as it's being sent
to my home on Wed and we have no cell phone service from any of the
companies out here.  Cell phone service is about 2-3 miles down the
road.  It's funny cause you'll see people parked at the church's
parking lot talking on the phone.  When our house was being built we
lived in the motor home in the garage.  We got power right away, but
it took the phone company a month to get us wire for service.  It was
kind of nice.  We could always drive to the church on the hill to make
a phone call and we had no pesky calls to deal with.


-- 
Anna
Southern Ohio


Re: [IceHorses] janices morning prayer

2007-11-19 Thread Anna Hopkins
On Nov 19, 2007 8:30 AM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Baby Jesus,

That Ricky Bobby movie is stupid but too funny.  Michael gave me a
lecture before we went to see Karen in NC about not making fun of
NASCAR.  Asked me what I'd say if someone asked me my favorite driver
- I said the one married to Ashley Judd, but he doesn't drive for
Nascar.  The only other names I could think of were Formula One
drivers, cause that's what Michael watches.  Fortunately I never got
quizzed cause I probably would have said Ricky Bobby or the say the
wrong Earnhart driver as in the one that died.

 the Sandy
 Mountain Church of Fountain down the street (there are no mountains
 within 900 miles),

When I got to this and tried to read it to Michael I was laughing so
hard I was crying.  Only Janice would have a church with a name like
this by her.  He came in to see if I was ever going to get off the
internet and come help him with the leaves.  Too late time to go to
town for our chiropractor appointment:)  We did get one pick up truck
load of wood loaded from the place down the road.  Guess we'll unload
it another day.


-- 
Anna
Southern Ohio


Re: [IceHorses] bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Raven
 Gunnar is Icelandic and his wife Stephanie is American. We did
briefly discuss horse bolting and not wanting to stop. He said in
Iceland all they want is for them to go and go really fast. A lot of
large farms with really great
 competition riders never teach the horse to stop or stand still to get on.

how about horses that are sold to the USA...do they take the time to
teach them these USA manners before they are shipped?

Raven
Lucy  Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn  Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze

Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.


Re: [IceHorses] duh hellooo

2007-11-19 Thread kim shumaker

 here is stonewall in curlys foal sized coat.  my
 husband put it on him
 in the dark..  Recon his buttocks were chilly??
 Janice


Too Funny! LOL!


  

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Re: [IceHorses] Hoof problems

2007-11-19 Thread Anneliese Virro


 Well after 11 months you have a whole new hoof anyway, so with good
 care it should grow outgood job!  There are cracks though caused
 by unbalanced trimming...some horses that are pigeon toed  have this
 happen because the farrier tries to correct the pigeon toe on an
 adult horse...and with something like that, cracks can happen.
 
 
 Skye

No, Skye, it was finally the fungicide that did the trick, not regular good
hoof care which she had for years. The horse had been here since 1996, came
with that crack and we tried things for years and years with no results;
nothing worked until I tried the fungicide.

What I am saying is that if you have a stubborn hoof crack, try the
fungicide.

Anneliese




Re: [IceHorses] Fox's shape

2007-11-19 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 19/11/2007, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I love this pic, i wish the dang fence wasnt in the way.  Look at
 fox's beautiful shape.  He is loving on me while the old man was
 fiddling with him haha
 Janice

There you are again...putting pictures on the Internet of that poor
hideous horse.

What saddle are you using on him?  That looks nice.

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] Bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 i'll try not to take it personally, despite my dubeity about your
 ability to statistically handle numbers.  --vicka



and conversely I will try not to take that personally, especially
since I am almost an idiot savant---  an idiot at numbers yet off the
chart mutant -level genius at perceiving dubeity of logic in others
janice.--
yipie tie yie yo


[IceHorses] My Jas

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
oh my gosh, Jas had his teeth done last monday, a week ago and his
weight has gone from 915 to 945!  and his bloodwork showed only
slight anemia which could be a result of the weight loss itself.

I am just so grateful!  this is my thanksgiving, what I am thankful
for!  Thank you for your prayers all of you!

and the moral?  I had his teeth done 8 months ago, and had them
checked four months ago when he started losing.  My vet said his teeth
were fine!  Then another vet in the same practice said she felt one
sharp point that was digging into the roof of his mouth and it looked
infected.  then when she did his teeth said one whole side seemed way
shorter than the other, there was an imbalance.

I still trust my vet, everyone makes mistakes, but I think he is not
the best at teeth!  I am just so glad we found the problem knock on
wood!  Keep praying for my jas, he is my heart!

Janice

-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] the holiday- baby ducks

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
 
 
  Our Newfoundland Bruneau jumps up on the picnic table with a big old, 
  stiff, dead squirrel in his mouth! just feet away from our lovely meal 
  Fore lorn eyes asking to join the feast, even brought his own meal!

hahaha its like that movie a Christmas Story when the neighbors dogs
drag the turkey off the table and carry it out the door hahahah
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Was Reading? Virginia? Now Books to Read

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
has anybody read Wicked?
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/19/07, Anna Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We could always drive to the church on the hill to make
 a phone call and we had no pesky calls to deal with.


 --
 Anna
 Southern Ohio



Is that the Sandy Hill Church  ??  haha.  My farrier attends the
Sandy Mountain Church near me.  For a long time I would say are you
riding tomorrow and he would say no, we are going to Sandy Mountain
and for a long time I thought he went to tennessee almost every
weekend :)

One time there was a message on the sign saying wedlock should be a
padlock and I kept telling my husband that just for fun but it made
him mad.
Janice
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Fox's shape

2007-11-19 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/19/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 19/11/2007, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I love this pic, i wish the dang fence wasnt in the way.  Look at
  fox's beautiful shape.  He is loving on me while the old man was
  fiddling with him haha
  Janice

 There you are again...putting pictures on the Internet of that poor
 hideous horse.

 What saddle are you using on him?  That looks nice.

 Wanda



it is my orthoflex stitchdown.  I would not dare ride him on a trail
ride in it, he needs a wide tree, but I feel real secure in it and
thought it would be ok for the lesson.  He seems oblivious to
saddlefit and weight.  I think cause he was never ridden til age 8 he
has a very very healthy sound back.  When I trail ride him I use my
sensation, but I have a wide tree thorowgood which seems to fit, but
it is hard as a rock for me!  Fox doesnt have much withers and even a
wide tree saddle slips on him, but the flex panel doesnt slip and he
seems to gait well in it.

He has been so good lately!  I think I dont have to worry so much
about saddle security with him anymore.  He seems to have moved on
from being so green lately :)  and when he spooks he is so big he cant
really whirl or spin around like stonewall.  and not much spooks him
really.  He has normal fears, but he isnt spooky.  he is a great horse
really.  Pictures dont really show how fleabit he is.  He has little
blue flecks all over his neck and shoulders, and his rear.
janice
-- 
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Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Judy Ryder

OK, I was a little embarrased to walk into the book
store with this list of books:

The Sociopath Next Door
Virgin Suicides
Middlesex
A Confederacy of Dunces.

Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com 


Re: [IceHorses] Icehorses sweating

2007-11-19 Thread Anneliese Virro

 http://www.taktklar.de/taktklar/documents/18082000-01.htm
 
 
 Maybe Anneliese can help us with this.



Judy: you can shoot that at me at some other time. Right now I simply don't
have the time to do it. Translation is time-consuming. And I am finishing
all the trim fro the house - about a mile of it.

Anneliese




Re: [IceHorses] the holiday- baby ducks

2007-11-19 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 19/11/2007, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hahaha its like that movie a Christmas Story when the neighbors dogs
 drag the turkey off the table and carry it out the door hahahah
 Janice

Wasn't the dog yakking it up under the table?

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 19/11/2007, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, I was a little embarrased to walk into the book
 store with this list of books:

 The Sociopath Next Door
 Virgin Suicides
 Middlesex
 A Confederacy of Dunces.

Well...you are either a voracious reader or planning a murder.

There's another good book called...Snakes in Suits...

Wanda


[IceHorses] bolting

2007-11-19 Thread Docnshop2
My sentiments exactly about running into trees,  roads, etc.  Gunnar and I 
discussed all of these obstacles in the USA that  a run away horse could run 
into.  His point was that in Iceland things are  different and after living 
here 
he now knows what most Americans want from a  trained horse.  
 By the way, I did ride Ljosbra with no  noseband.  Stephanie, Gunnar's 
wife, told me that she heard the judges  making comments  now that is a true 
pleasure horse, that horse is easy  to ride, that is a good horse etc.  
They were all good  comments.  
 
 Renee



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Re: [IceHorses] KY Show

2007-11-19 Thread Judy Ryder


I just returned from the KY Icelandic Horse Show.  

How was it?  Any pictures?

Were the judges all icelandic?

Was it the normal type of show with nosebands, boots, etc.

Anyone there barefoot?  bitless?  treeless? 


I did ride Ljosbra with no noseband.  

Great!! Good for you!


Stephanie, Gunnar's 
 wife, told me that she heard the judges  making comments  now that is a true 
 pleasure horse, that horse is easy  to ride, that is a good horse etc.  
 They were all good  comments. 

Superb!

Thanks!


Judy
http://icehorses.net
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RE: [IceHorses] Reading? Virginia?

2007-11-19 Thread Cherie Mascis



Here's a link to the Sony E reader I have.  You do need a computer to download. 
 It holds 80 books on it but as many as you want in the library on your 
computer, you can also store books on memory sticks. It only needs to be 
charged after 7,500 pages are turned. It comes with 100 classics (you chose 
from about 1,000). Other books range from $3.99 to around $24.00. 

http://tinyurl.com/37xkco

Cherie




RE: [IceHorses] Fjord an Icelandic??

2007-11-19 Thread Cherie Mascis
What are the 10% other colors Cherie??  I thought
they only came in that one color...
Janice

The other colors are gray dun-what we call blue dun in Icelandics or grulla in 
Quarter horses with a black or gray stripe in the mane and tail; Red dun-looks 
like a light reddish palomino with a pale reddish stripe in the mane and tail; 
white dun-white or almost white with dark points; and the rarest-yellow 
dun-very light yellow, sometimes with darker yellow points.  Here's a link 
about the colors.
http://www.nfhr.com/Colors.htm 

Cherie




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