Re: [ilugd] Startup programs with su privileges
Pratul Kalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is something I have been battling for long. How can I set a program to start using superuser privileges, when my computer boots? Lets say I want a daemon to run the time I login, but it needs superuser privileges to work properly. If i just add sudo daemonname in gnome-sessions, it doesn't work. it doesn't work is too vague a description. Go through http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html to understand how to ask questions the smart way. Then, give a clear, specific example; explain why you want to do it that way; and the discussion will be off to a better start. To try and answer your question already: There are standard documented ways of building a daemon from a skeleton. Your problem may be how you are using sudo (but the it doesn't work description won't help people understand what you want clearly enough). If you don't want a daemon, consider setting the process to run using cron's @reboot setting (see man 5 crontab). If you want something to start after you have logged in, consider putting it in your .xsession or your .bash_login. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Load balancing router
Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 26 May 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote: [snip] I've seen a couple of SMC barracuda ADSL routers that will handle dual links and do some failover stuff. I'd guess you already had modems for those links ? That helps. Finally found the following 4 that seem to fit the bill, no clue about availability in India: Raj, were you able to arrive on a solution for this? I have recently ordered a second Reliance Wimax connection and would want to use my Tata Indicom Broadband along with that. A single router wherein both the cables can go shall be really helpful. Thank you Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Load balancing router
On Monday 16 Jun 2008, Vivek Kapoor wrote: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 26 May 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote: [snip] I've seen a couple of SMC barracuda ADSL routers that will handle dual links and do some failover stuff. I'd guess you already had modems for those links ? That helps. Finally found the following 4 that seem to fit the bill, no clue about availability in India: Raj, were you able to arrive on a solution for this? I have recently ordered a second Reliance Wimax connection and would want to use my Tata Indicom Broadband along with that. A single router wherein both the cables can go shall be really helpful. Well, the situation changed when the chap told me that his wife would be the one who would manage the router. So in the end it turned out to be simpler to get her to unplug the cable from one router and put it into the other one, rather than changing configurations. Would still be interested in knowing if someone did it with a black box. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Load balancing router
On Mon, June 16, 2008 2:10 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: Well, the situation changed when the chap told me that his wife would be the one who would manage the router. So in the end it turned out to be simpler to get her to unplug the cable from one router and put it into the other one, rather than changing configurations. Would still be interested in knowing if someone did it with a black box. I spoke to Artec Enterprises in Nehru Place. They're selling the DLink DI-LB604 for INR 5500+Taxes. It is not ADSL or Wifi, so probably I'd need to live with 3 routers - one for my Tata Indicom, the Wifi Router and the Dlink one. Regardless, once I get this Reliance Wimax, then would probably buy it and experiment. Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Load balancing router
Vivek Kapoor wrote: On Mon, June 16, 2008 2:10 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: Well, the situation changed when the chap told me that his wife would be the one who would manage the router. So in the end it turned out to be simpler to get her to unplug the cable from one router and put it into the other one, rather than changing configurations. Would still be interested in knowing if someone did it with a black box. I spoke to Artec Enterprises in Nehru Place. They're selling the DLink DI-LB604 for INR 5500+Taxes. It is not ADSL or Wifi, so probably I'd need to live with 3 routers - one for my Tata Indicom, the Wifi Router and the Dlink one. Regardless, once I get this Reliance Wimax, then would probably buy it and experiment. Check with Sigma distributor in Nehru Place for an option from TP Link - Shashi Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] OT: ahoo toolbar spyware...
+++ Nalin Savara [13/06/08 21:43 +0530]: Hi Folks... My Mozilla browser earlier had a Google search toolbar--- and suddenly, overnight, it got replaced by a yahoo! toolbar-- without my doing anything. I dont have any yahoo messenger on this comp; nor did I ever consent to adding a yahoo toolbar. Seems in it's desperation, yahoo has lost some of it's ethics. Anyone have a similar experience ? Not speaking on behalf of Yahoo here, but this seems to be Mozilla that you are talking about, and not IE. Never heard of anything yet being installed on its own in Mozilla (Firefox?). I am assuming you are talking about a Windows machine too. Are you sure you haven't installed any software recently, which could have possibly have the toolbar bundled? - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya http://blog.sandipb.net ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BBC on Microsoft standard stalled
+++ Yashpal Nagar [12/06/08 17:18 +0100]: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the ol' beeb mentions india and three other countries... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7445956.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6291124.stm Another interesting one. I have collected a bit from information from around on this. http://blog.sandipb.net/2008/06/06/the-reasons-behind-the-ooxml-appeals/ Interesting to see the length to which corporate lobbying happens in India in the IT sector. You should atleast read the complete blog post of the IIT professor. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya http://blog.sandipb.net ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:29:29 +0530 Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sun Campus Ambassador program is alligned towards the same goal. Sun has hired 500 campus ambassadors in universities all over the world to promote open source technologies. [...] With all due respect, and speaking only for myself, please stop your constant astroturfing for Sun Microsystems. Not that Sun is not doing good things in open source, but as your major contribution in this newsgroup seems to be to keep bringing up the name of Sun and/or OpenSolaris, and in light of your (presumably remunerated) position as Sun campus ambassador, this is a conflict of interest, and plainly embarrassing, in my opinion. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Review of workshop at IPEC, June 7th
So... which of the dates suit you ? On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Prakhar Agrawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gora, a) Yes.. you are right ... Pilani is around 200 kms away from Delhi. b) Our college reopens in August after the summer vacations So we shall be looking at conducting the workshop around 2nd, 3rd or 4th weekends of August The possible dates would then be : (1) 9-10 Aug Or (2) 16-17 Aug Or (3) 23-24 Aug I hope one of these will be fine for you ... c) Also, we shall prefer the workshop to be spread over 2 complete days ... So that the students may actually learn how to use Linux and like it .. rather than just the installation and configuration ... d) We have huge lecture theaters and computer labs.. So the infrastructure shall not be a limitation Thanks and Regards, Prakhar Agrawal On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:49:42 -0500 Prakhar Agrawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gora, a) I would like the workshop to be for linux in general, just like the most of your workshops (with an extra session on ubuntu, if possible). So that it does not violate the spirit of the ILUGD. b) Travel and other incidental costs shall be reimbursed ... c) Your accommodation shall be taken care of in the BITS Pilani Guest House. I hope this clears all of your doubts... If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask here .. [...] Great. This sounds fine. Please give me several possible dates, as we will need to set up a complete agenda of workshops for this summer, and get volunteers for all of these. Regards, Gora P.S. Pilani is about 175-200km from Delhi, right? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Notetakers Annotators in Linux
On Saturday 14 June 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [snip] I use a paper pad - it is exactly like a real paper pad (in fact it *is* a real paper pad) - and I have enough kingfisher pens to last me a lifetime. How do you do backups? -Taj. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Notetakers Annotators in Linux
Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [snip] I use a paper pad - it is exactly like a real paper pad (in fact it *is* a real paper pad) - and I have enough kingfisher pens to last me a lifetime. How do you do backups Xerox copy? Carbon paper? ;) -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Review of workshop at IPEC, June 7th
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:36:36 +0530 Prakhar Agrawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... which of the dates suit you ? [...] Sorry, was away on a family medical emergency till today, and have not made any more progress on this front. We will need to get dates for other potential workshops, call for volunteers, and then set up a schedule. I imagine that doing this will take a while. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all due respect, and speaking only for myself, please stop your constant astroturfing for Sun Microsystems. Not that Sun is not doing good things in open source, but as your major contribution in this newsgroup seems to be to keep bringing up the name of Sun and/or OpenSolaris I am extremely sorry that i have created such an impression that I have been 'astroturfing' for Sun Microsystems on this list, though it was never my intention to do so. With all due respect, you've associated my speaking once (in total) about trying out OpenSolaris with my mentioning of being a Sun Campus Ambassador as an indicator of me doing some kind of a marketing for my company (or whatever, that's just down-right sick IMHO). I admit that I have been a mere 'lurker' on this list for a very long time, but that is due to the sheer reason that I did not find any topics of interest to contribute my input and my previous experience here. Excuse me for being so blunt and frank myself (you deserve this now anyway), but frankly speaking, I find that ILUG-D doesn't function very well as what it is supposed to be - 'a LUG', and it is pretends to be much more. Many times in the past, I've seen that everyone starts pulling each other's hair for stupid issues. I am sorry but I did not find it a very healthy and open community at all. It would be better if I don't speak more on that, but I mention this, since it has been one of the primary barriers of participation, atleast for me, and I believe, others. Now that you've spoken up so bluntly, I wouldn't stop myself to tell about my experiences with ILUG-D to the entire list as well. We started off with our college linux club last year, we did a few meetings with workshops on using FOSS tools, and a few installfests and the like. My connection with ILUG-D started when one of my seniors' friend Gaurav Mishra contacted us to conduct a talk by ILUG-D at our college. I was thrilled to hear this and welcomed the request. I wasn't a sun campus ambassador back then. I was just leading the linux club at my college. Unfortunately Gaurav wasn't able to organize that talk (not being his fault at all), but someone called me up at the last moment, 1 day before the talk was scheduled and was kind enough to save us from the embarrassment after the publicity we had done about the event. That's when I had met some enthusiastic folks like Gaurav, Triveni, etc. and we planned on any future collaboration of our college LUG with ILUG-D. Back then, ILUGD was promoting Freed.in and Gaurav and I setup a bus trip taking 60 students from our college to Freed. The students loved it, it was a first time experience for them, and it increased awareness about open source, and at the same time it helped Freed get some participation. That particular Freed took place at JNU and we were very excited about it, so we thought why not try to have the next Freed at JIIT. I understood that JIIT would have to be closer to ILUG-D for that to happen so when there was a mail sent out at the list asking for a venue for the next monthly meet, I had sent a request to the mailing list that we would love if the meeting took place at our college and it got accepted. ILUG-D had it's October, 2007 meeting at our campus. We discussed the prospects of having the next Freed at JIIT. Dr. Andrew suggested having a satellite conference at first. Niyam and others on the list suggested that we should learn, test and hold a mashup event first instead of jumping to the main Freed event directly. We totally agreed. We sent a formal proposal with details about our campus facilities, events, etc that our linux club has been organizing.etc. Mr. Gora then asked us to make a presentation detailing all the facilities, we as a college can provide for Freed. For some unavoidable reasons, we were unable to come for the following meeting (which was announced on the short notice of only a few days) since we had our exams coming up. So we apologized to the list and requested to show our presentation at the next meeting, but then afterwards, it all really became a very sorry affair. We were ignored and denounced (for those interested may go back and read the archives). That was most discouraging. Few people saw how you were treating us and contacted us off list to help organize such an event without ILUGD's support. From then onwards, I didn't ever feel like participating. Recently, I gained a lot of interest in OpenSolaris and (made a big mistake) to mention one line about it in reply to a discussion on the list. I forgot the stringent view of a few people who manage this community. I should have known that my speaking of OpenSolaris will be taken in the most negative and narrow-minded way and will be spoken of as 'astroturfing for the company that pays you'. For what it's worth, Sun doesn't give me any extra compensation to speak about OpenSolaris in public mailing lists (or any
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:33:04 +0530 Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Dear Angad, I have read through your follow-up, and am admittedly not quite sure what to think at the moment. Given that this has become largely off-topic for the list, I would suggest that we take this discussion to private e-mail, and off-list. However, if you would prefer, we can continue this discussion here. Please give me till tomorrow to respond to your message off-list. Should you feel it necessary, you can follow up to that mail on the list. You do raise what might be valid points, and we have struggled with ways of incorporating more people into ILUG-Delhi. While we try to be inclusive, from what I see, there are strict lines drawn by the consensus of active participants in ILUG-D. Where those lines should be are, of course, open to discussion. And, just for the record, I am not, nor is any one person, the final arbiter of what is acceptable on the list, or in ILUG-Delhi. As I tried to make explicit, that was my personal opinion. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all due respect, and speaking only for myself, please stop your constant astroturfing for Sun Microsystems. Not that Sun is not doing good things in open source, but as your major contribution in this newsgroup seems to be to keep bringing up the name of Sun and/or OpenSolaris I am extremely sorry that i have created such an impression that I have been 'astroturfing' for Sun Microsystems on this list, though it was never my intention to do so. With all due respect, you've associated my speaking once (in total) about trying out OpenSolaris with my mentioning of being a Sun Campus Ambassador as an indicator of me doing some kind of a marketing for my company (or whatever, that's just down-right sick IMHO). [snip] Ok , let`s take the issues in your previous mail one by one as you replied to one of my mails which evoked the issue. 1. You TOP- POSTED , that`s against mailing list rules.(You have been warned again and again) 2. There was no context all together in reply of my previous mail, The replies were not quoted . This is called thread hijacking, Which is against mailing list rules 3. You never talked about Opensolaris in your previous mail, Your mail even don`t tell me what opensolaris is ,The only reference of open solaris is Open solaris Users group 4. After this conversation personally i don`t get a good feeling about SUN and it`s intentions as Campus ambassador, specially if they are trying to outdo running LUG`s. 5. The mail talks about marketing of SUN ambassador program which is *now* not looking different from Microsoft Siksha program, You clearly violated *written* mailing list rules, and still blame ILUGD for not being co-operative, Bah -- Thanks and Regards Gaurav Mishra Linux User #348873 http://gauravmishra.info/blog When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Content Management Tool
Hello Folks I need your Suggestion in selecting a Enterprise level Content Management Software , Considering that Iam not a developer or coder by profession . and yet i wanna design a powefull enterprise level portal . These are the few which I came across : Joomla , Drupal , Mambo , typo3 . Please let me know whch one to head for .. As Ever Saurabh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Gaurav Mishra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all due respect, and speaking only for myself, please stop your constant astroturfing for Sun Microsystems. Not that Sun is not doing good things in open source, but as your major contribution in this newsgroup seems to be to keep bringing up the name of Sun and/or OpenSolaris I am extremely sorry that i have created such an impression that I have been 'astroturfing' for Sun Microsystems on this list, though it was never my intention to do so. With all due respect, you've associated my speaking once (in total) about trying out OpenSolaris with my mentioning of being a Sun Campus Ambassador as an indicator of me doing some kind of a marketing for my company (or whatever, that's just down-right sick IMHO). [snip] Ok , let`s take the issues in your previous mail one by one as you replied to one of my mails which evoked the issue. 1. You TOP- POSTED , that`s against mailing list rules.(You have been warned again and again) I accept that and I guess I have apologized for it each and every instance. 2. There was no context all together in reply of my previous mail, The replies were not quoted . This is called thread hijacking, Which is against mailing list rules No comments, since this is irrelevant. The current topic is much adverse than the following of mailing list rules IMNSHO. Playing the 'mailing list rule man' game is simply proving you're unjustified defense to protect yourself. 3. You never talked about Opensolaris in your previous mail, Your mail even don`t tell me what opensolaris is ,The only reference of open solaris is Open solaris Users group Again, You should do your homework before trying to rubbing against the comprehensive details: I and Mr. Gora, both, were referring to my preaching of using OpenSolaris at the thread with the subject shabdanjali ISSUES by 'Ajay Tripathi' -- http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21486.html. 4. After this conversation personally i don`t get a good feeling about SUN and it`s intentions as Campus ambassador, specially if they are trying to outdo running LUG`s. If this is what your comprehended of the above mail, then my friend, no one can help you.. whoever is reading this can tell you why. Stop putting words into my mouth. It won't help you at all. 5. The mail talks about marketing of SUN ambassador program which is *now* not looking different from Microsoft Siksha program, No comments, except that I feel sorry for you too now. You're lack of understanding makes me sad. Go study the A,B,C's first and then come back and talk. You clearly violated *written* mailing list rules, and still blame ILUGD for not being co-operative, Bah You insult me on a public mailing list and try to take up offense of mailing list rules as an argument for defense, I thought you'd do better than that, you disappoint me. Oh, and please keep my manager out of the stupid flame war. He has better things to do. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:04 AM, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Gaurav Mishra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Ok , let`s take the issues in your previous mail one by one as you replied to one of my mails which evoked the issue. 1. You TOP- POSTED , that`s against mailing list rules.(You have been warned again and again) I accept that and I guess I have apologized for it each and every instance. 2. There was no context all together in reply of my previous mail, The replies were not quoted . This is called thread hijacking, Which is against mailing list rules No comments, since this is irrelevant. The current topic is much adverse than the following of mailing list rules IMNSHO. Playing the 'mailing list rule man' game is simply proving you're unjustified defense to protect yourself. I am referring to the mail posted on a different subject here , And which is the same mail on which the current thread is, You can go through complete thread here http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/index.html#21512 http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21512.html were your reply is purely off context 3. You never talked about Opensolaris in your previous mail, Your mail even don`t tell me what opensolaris is ,The only reference of open solaris is Open solaris Users group Again, You should do your homework before trying to rubbing against the comprehensive details: I and Mr. Gora, both, were referring to my preaching of using OpenSolaris at the thread with the subject shabdanjali ISSUES by 'Ajay Tripathi' -- http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21486.html. Again as per subject the mail is http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21512.html Oh, and please keep my manager out of the stupid flame war. He has better things to do. ___ He was added by you only on first hand -- Thanks and Regards Gaurav Mishra Linux User #348873 http://gauravmishra.info/blog When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Content Management Tool
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:18 AM, saurabh vadhera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Folks I need your Suggestion in selecting a Enterprise level Content Management Software , Considering that Iam not a developer or coder by profession . and yet i wanna design a powefull enterprise level portal . These are the few which I came across : Joomla , Drupal , Mambo , typo3 . Please let me know whch one to head for .. http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ is a good website for comparison. On a personal front i prefer Joomla for corporate portals . -- Thanks and Regards Gaurav Mishra Linux User #348873 http://gauravmishra.info/blog When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
[snip] 2. There was no context all together in reply of my previous mail, The replies were not quoted . This is called thread hijacking, Which is against mailing list rules No comments, since this is irrelevant. The current topic is much adverse than the following of mailing list rules IMNSHO. Playing the 'mailing list rule man' game is simply proving you're unjustified defense to protect yourself. I am referring to the mail posted on a different subject here , And which is the same mail on which the current thread is, You can go through complete thread here http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/index.html#21512 http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21512.html were your reply is purely off context Thanks for enlightening me about the concept of 'thread hijacking'. I confess, 'I didn't know' about that rule. Agreed that it was wrong. Though, the point is that the above reply (providing links to the original reply that I had sent), is neither a reply to my counter-argument to your previously stated point#2, nor is point #2 in context whatsoever of the topic we are discussing here. 3. You never talked about Opensolaris in your previous mail, Your mail even don`t tell me what opensolaris is ,The only reference of open solaris is Open solaris Users group Again, You should do your homework before trying to rubbing against the comprehensive details: I and Mr. Gora, both, were referring to my preaching of using OpenSolaris at the thread with the subject shabdanjali ISSUES by 'Ajay Tripathi' -- http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21486.html. Again as per subject the mail is. http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21512.html Oh god! is the only thing I ought to reply to this. But to articulate what I mean, I was pointing you, to the reference of 'OpenSolaris', which Mr. Gora and in turn, I, were referring to! I quote it again here: the line in context was Better yet, switch to OpenSolaris!, and can be seen at: http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21488.html. Oh, and please keep my manager out of the stupid flame war. He has better things to do. ___ He was added by you only on first hand I had cc'ed him the initial reply. The flame war started when you came in with your list of points. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Content Management Tool
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:18 AM, saurabh vadhera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Joomla , Drupal , Mambo , typo3 . Please let me know whch one to head for .. I personally prefer Drupal and have been using it for the past 3 years. Drupal is powerful, it has got a very modular framework, a powerful, feature-rich administration interface. With drupal, you can setup anything and everything from blogs to community portals to learning management systems to company websites to custom ERP solutions. Sky is the limit. Drupal is backed up by a thriving community driven project at drupal.org and wide variety of themes, modules, etc. + the drupal layout system is very dynamic and let's you control the positioning of content very well. Give it a try. I have tried Joomla for one particular fest website but find it to be lacking in terms of features. (it seems to have better themes though) http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ is a good website for comparison. On a personal front i prefer Joomla for corporate portals . Thanks Gaurav for the comparison matrix. Oh btw, SpreadFirefox.com is built on drupal and there are various other such websites with 1000s of users, exemplify Drupal's scalability and stability.. :) Check out other showcased drupal sites here: http://www.drupalsites.net/ and here: http://drupal.org/forum/25 Reply offline and I'll show you some of my work (as it migh be considered promotion of some sort if I post the links here) Hope that Helps -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] File Repository
Hi Folks I need to setup a file repository for an internal website. Its something like an FTP server but with a web interface, with categories etc. (like download.com). I know that its possible to create this using any of the available CMSs but I don't want to learn an entire CMS for just this as I'm not interested in any customization. Appearance doesn't matter to me, I just need it without frills. I was hoping to find an Open Source solution that I could use out of the box. Any suggestions on this, or a simpler way of going about this than learning to customize a CMS? Thank You Navjot Kukreja ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] File Repository
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Navjot Kukreja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions on this, or a simpler way of going about this than learning to customize a CMS? - A script that I've been using is called 'Olate', with which you can provide categorized downloads to multiple users, and custom fields in downloads, etc.. - You could use Drupal and a module called webfm which gives you an AJAX powered interface, drag and drop files, advanced permission features and then its basically a drupal module, so you can do much more with Views, Panels and other drupal modules to create a mockup download portal. project homepage: http://drupal.org/project/webfm, demo site: http://vera-ikona.com/ - Though this might not be what you are looking for the best php file managers I've known are http://www.phpexplorer.org and phpfm.sourceforge.net - If you want to create a file hosting site like rapidshare, I know there was an old script called php-Rapidshare which was a rapidshare clone, google and you'll find it. - And if you want a plain old directory-listing style display of downloads, tryout http://sourceforge.net/projects/charon-dl/. It's cool ;) You can find many other scripts out there. Checkout hotscripts.com and sourceforge.net. -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Notetakers Annotators in Linux
On 16-Jun-08, at 5:52 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [snip] I use a paper pad - it is exactly like a real paper pad (in fact it *is* a real paper pad) - and I have enough kingfisher pens to last me a lifetime. How do you do backups? xerox - and a burlar/fire proof safe for secure data storage ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
Right, all those who think we've had enough of this enlightening conversation please raise your virtual hands :) Please take it off-line, folks, and let's get on with our How To Reinstall Winduhs Vistula On A Computer Whose MBR Has Been Taken Over By Linux discussions. Regards, -- Raju On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: [lots of snippage] -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Content Management Tool
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, saurabh vadhera wrote: Hello Folks I need your Suggestion in selecting a Enterprise level Content Management Software , Considering that Iam not a developer or coder by profession . and yet i wanna design a powefull enterprise level portal . These are the few which I came across : Joomla , Drupal , Mambo , typo3 . If you're referring to Enterprise Content Management, then none of the above fits the bill. The only FOSS ECM I know of is Alfresco. Apart from that, if you have the couple of million $$$ to spend, you could go for Vignette or IBM DB2 Content Manager or Oracle Content Manager or Filenet or... Oh, and a portal is something else altogether. I suggest you let the list have your requirements from the package so we could give more specific solutions. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIVxGUyWjQ78xo0X8RAq9UAJwK39eBZGwqA40k3NpMOKMgs0SX6QCeKMbM Ak+KAF8iqzLbUjVmyUPoORM= =cSsw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [XPOST] RFC - level playing field
hi, we would appreciate comments and feedback on this: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/playing/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Content Management Tool
On 17-Jun-08, at 2:18 AM, saurabh vadhera wrote: I need your Suggestion in selecting a Enterprise level Content Management Software , Considering that Iam not a developer or coder by profession . and yet i wanna design a powefull enterprise level portal . These are the few which I came across : Joomla , Drupal , Mambo , typo3 . Please let me know whch one to head for .. plone -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On 17-Jun-08, at 3:43 AM, Angad Singh wrote: were your reply is purely off context Thanks for enlightening me about the concept of 'thread hijacking'. I confess, 'I didn't know' about that rule. Agreed that it was wrong. there is no such thing as thread hijacking. There is thread recycling where an new subject line is put in an existing thread by a person too lazy to start a fresh thread - there is also a variety of thread recycling where the person starts a new subject in an existing thread and is too laxy to even put the new subject line. And there is thread forking where a new subject takes off from and existing thread and becomes a subthread (like I am doing in this post). -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Content Management Tool
On 17-Jun-08, at 4:09 AM, Angad Singh wrote: Reply offline and I'll show you some of my work (as it migh be considered promotion of some sort if I post the links here) if the source is available feel free to post here -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] List rules (was) Re: {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
1. You TOP- POSTED , that`s against mailing list rules.(You have been warned again and again) 2. There was no context all together in reply of my previous mail, The replies were not quoted . This is called thread hijacking, Which is against mailing list rules I am not sure whether we should say that top-posting,lack of context and thread hijacking/recycling are violation of list rules. They are certainly things which make mailing list experience subpar, and probably that is the intention of formulating some sort of guideline[1]. [1] http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/MailingListGuidelines But it is a guideline nevertheless. Also, if you look it up, it doesn't even mention top-posting and proper quoting inside it. You can mention it as a netiquette [2]. [2] http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/MailNetiquettes Just because someone is not speaking your language is no reason to throw the book at him/her. In classic mailing list/newsgroup behaviour, everyone has the option of ignoring what they feel is uncouth behavior. But if there are people who can have a conversation with such people and can provide value to others, I am all for it (even though I might never participate in such discussions). Let's not commit the classic Indian mistake that permeates every part of our social existence - lets not make rules which we know is likely to be broken and is therefore unforceable. Lets look at more realistic rules. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya http://blog.sandipb.net ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, all those who think we've had enough of this enlightening conversation please raise your virtual hands :) +1 -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Notetakers Annotators in Linux
[snip] On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Mani A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have plenty of excellent open source s/w for the purpose: http://www.dklevine.com/general/software/tc1000/jarnal.htm http://www.adebenham.com/gournal/ [/snip] It's the web2.0 age and we like our data to be 'in the cloud' these days and as such, I would rather prefer an online note-taking solution, so that you have your notes wherever you go, regardless of your platform or whether on PC or mobile. Google notebook does a good job at that with it's firefox plugin and it's mobile version at http://www.google.com/notebook/m. You might consider other firefox plugins while you're at it: Zotero (a complete researching tool, allows you to save web pages, take notes). Going on a completely different track, the filthy rich could consider getting LiveScribe, an amazing technology which was showcased in ths year's JavaONE at James Gosling's toy show. It is a 'smartpen'. It records what you write on paper inside it's memory along with your voice and can replay on tapping on to any word you wrote down earlier. It can be programmed using java to recognize written gestures to perform some kind of computation. (like a built in calculator, translator, etc.) ;) -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Content Management Tool
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the source is available feel free to post here Well they are websites, and as such, source can be available, on demand :) But I guess I should mention them, atleast to show the variety of use cases drupal can handle for you: - Blog (http://angadsingh.in) -- My drupal blog. Most recent addition to the family. Everything that a blog has + cool stuff (like showing similar posts in the sidebar on the basis of matching keywords in other posts, etc. - Community Portal (http://www.jiityouthclub.org) - Events system, students can RSVP. Forum, Notices, User Blogs, Aggregated Blog, Polls, even shows all the user locations on a pretty map :) - Group Blog (http://www.jiitsunclub.org) - Not that built up, basic drupal installation for now. - Virtual InstallFest Website (http://installfest.jiitsunclub.org) -- a custom implementation of drupal for running a unique even wherein participants can view a live screencast of host's system, who installs an OS inside a VM and they follow along. The website provided an IRC-like chat room (phpFreeChat + it's module for drupal), feedback form system, etc. - College Library Website (its internal only) - issuing books, books inventory management, integration with Dspace repository of research material of faculty. - College Learning Management System - The de-facto student teacher interaction system at JIIT, course-wise assignment submissions with deadlines, notices / announcements system, special interest group sub-portals, Forums (with mailman bridge), Private Messages, authentication using LDAP (integration with college LDAP server), etc. (Work in Progress) - New Belenix.org Website - I am working on a revamp for them. Belenix is a LiveCD OpenSolaris distro, they use drupal. The upgraded one will have a community portal for belenix fans to post their tips, fan posts, screenshots, be able to login to the site using the mailing list password, the mailing list will be sync'ed with site's forums, etc. (Work in progress) -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] shabdanjali ISSUES
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better yet, switch to OpenSolaris! Sorry for digging the grave here (4 days is grave I guess), and not that I intend to start any other flame war, but if anyone needs it, I am open for an objective discussion of the 'why' around the statement which I made here. Yes, I am posting this in the light of a recent criticism about this post, being delivered without reason, so here I am ready for justifications :) -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] List rules (was) Re: {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On 17-Jun-08, at 8:11 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Let's not commit the classic Indian mistake that permeates every part of our social existence - lets not make rules which we know is likely to be broken and is therefore unforceable. Lets look at more realistic rules. how much to enforce rules is always a group decision. But one thing, using rules to shoot down another persons arguments is not correct. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] shabdanjali ISSUES
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better yet, switch to OpenSolaris! Sorry for digging the grave here (4 days is grave I guess), and not that I intend to start any other flame war, but if anyone needs it, I am open for an objective discussion of the 'why' around the statement which I made here. Yes, I am posting this in the light of a recent criticism about this post, being delivered without reason, so here I am ready for justifications :) If you're earning money as a Sun ambassador or whatever, it's in rather bad taste to be plugging them on a FOSS mailing list, regardless of whether the software you're pushing is FOSS or not. At the very least, add a disclaimer that says that you earn money for plugging Solaris so that there are no ambiguities about your motives. -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Raj Mathur wrote: Right, all those who think we've had enough of this enlightening conversation please raise your virtual hands :) Yes, had enough of it. This is a Linux list and those wishing to promote other alternatives are welcome to start their own mailing lists; as a courtesy the least they can do is mark the discussion [OT] on this list. -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
Yes, had enough of it. This is a Linux list and those wishing to promote other alternatives are welcome to start their own mailing lists; as a courtesy the least they can do is mark the discussion [OT] on this list. * Cough * I don't know why people are never clear about ILUG-D's objectives. Back in November, 2007, at the meet in our college, I had a quick chat with someone who told me that this list is 'not just a linux list' and I can go ahead and discuss anything open source, be it linux or freeBSD, (and opensolaris). -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] File Repository
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Navjot Kukreja wrote: Hi Folks I need to setup a file repository for an internal website. Its something like an FTP server but with a web interface, with categories etc. (like download.com). I know that its possible to Suggest TikiWiki, it has a lot of features you can activate only the ones you want. It has photo galleries, file management through a browser. Set up is fairly easy, requires PHP and MySQL. HTH, -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] shabdanjali ISSUES
If you're earning money as a Sun ambassador or whatever, it's in rather bad taste to be plugging them on a FOSS mailing list, regardless of whether the software you're pushing is FOSS or not. At the very least, add a disclaimer that says that you earn money for plugging Solaris so that there are no ambiguities about your motives. I don't get it. Why can't I talk about something that I care for just because I am in being paid by someone to promote it in my campus. If you work for mozilla, you're not allowed to talk about Firefox? If you work for RedHat, then you probably shouldn't even be on this list, as you're every post about Fedora would be in bad taste, right? -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is being paid for promoting FOSS bad? [was] shabdanjali ISSUES
On 17-Jun-08, at 9:35 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: If you're earning money as a Sun ambassador or whatever, it's in rather bad taste to be plugging them on a FOSS mailing list, regardless of whether the software you're pushing is FOSS or not. NRC-FOSS pays me to promote FOSS, and NRC-FOSS - does that mean that 'plugging' these initiatives on *this* mailing list is in bad taste? At the very least, add a disclaimer that says that you earn money for plugging Solaris so that there are no ambiguities about your motives. so are you implying that his motives are love of money and not love of foss? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Arun Khan wrote: Yes, had enough of it. This is a Linux list and those wishing to promote other alternatives are welcome to start their own mailing lists; as a courtesy the least they can do is mark the discussion [OT] on this list. Hmm, not sure I agree with that. I see the issues at hand as being (a) gratuitously pushing a product/service/group that has no relevance in the current context and (b) not clearly specifying that you get paid for peddling that item, whatever it is. And if the latest (proprietary) product that Mr Singh mentioned turns out to be a Sun product, I'll request the list admin to moderate his postings until he (Angad) clearly understands that this is not a medium for marketing proprietary crap from anyone, be it Sun, IBM, RH or MS. I personally have no issues with discussion on any FOSS product or activity on this list, but it's up to the list managers and ILUGD office-bearers to define the scope within which we operate here :) I do believe we've outgrown just Linux as an objective and can calmly and reasonably discuss other FOSS alternatives, provided there's no vested interests involved. BTW, my Premier and my Contessa outrank your Amabssador. g,dr Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [OT] the new blender movie is out
Hi all, Maybe we missed it in the commotion of a latest bollywood movie ;) , but still, Big Buck Bunny has been released a while ago and is available for download. http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/ Its a short-feature around 10 minutes long, but is pretty cool given the fact that it is released under a CC license. And quite obviously it was created using Blender[1]. AFAIK, the DVD set contains all .blend files and hence would be a perfect medium to showcase the capabilities of FOSS tools in Multimedia where it seems to lag behind a bit. Check out the .OGG video from the German server, others seem not to respond at the moment. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, not sure I agree with that. I see the issues at hand as being (a) gratuitously pushing a product/service/group that has no relevance in the current context and a) In http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21486.html, there was a recommendation made by Mr. Gora for other linux distros, without giving any reason to back his views, and so did I for opensolaris. What is not in context here? b) In http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg21510.html, there was a show of concern for creating awareness for opensource and so I mentioned about our program and what it does to fulfill that purpose! (b) not clearly specifying that you get paid for peddling that item, whatever it is. And if the latest (proprietary) Proprietary??? I don't know why and how people are so uninformed here! OpenSolaris is Open Source! ALL the code in it is open and NOTHING in it is sun proprietary. I'm not a fool to talk about it on a FOSS list otherwise! Get the facts right first, with all due respect. product that Mr Singh mentioned turns out to be a Sun product, I'll request the list admin to moderate his postings until he (Angad) clearly understands that this is not a medium for marketing proprietary crap from anyone, be it Sun, IBM, RH or MS. * Oh my god! * Sir, with all due respect, I know you're the one with the big stick and the admin hat here, but I would definitely want to CLEAR this out right here, right now that: OpenSolaris is NOT Sun 'proprietary crap' I personally have no issues with discussion on any FOSS product or activity on this list, but it's up to the list managers and ILUGD office-bearers to define the scope within which we operate here :) And you call that open source :) You call that FOSS! BTW, my Premier and my Contessa outrank your Amabssador. g,dr Oh so very funny, I'm rolling on the floor laughing over this :) -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is being paid for promoting FOSS bad? [was] shabdanjali ISSUES
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 17-Jun-08, at 9:35 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: If you're earning money as a Sun ambassador or whatever, it's in rather bad taste to be plugging them on a FOSS mailing list, regardless of whether the software you're pushing is FOSS or not. NRC-FOSS pays me to promote FOSS, and NRC-FOSS - does that mean that 'plugging' these initiatives on *this* mailing list is in bad taste? If you're plugging a specific product out of context, yes. AFAIK NRCF is product/distro-agnostic. At the very least, add a disclaimer that says that you earn money for plugging Solaris so that there are no ambiguities about your motives. so are you implying that his motives are love of money and not love of foss? I don't know what his motives are. -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] shabdanjali ISSUES
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2008, Angad Singh wrote: If you're earning money as a Sun ambassador or whatever, it's in rather bad taste to be plugging them on a FOSS mailing list, regardless of whether the software you're pushing is FOSS or not. At the very least, add a disclaimer that says that you earn money for plugging Solaris so that there are no ambiguities about your motives. I don't get it. Why can't I talk about something that I care for just because I am in being paid by someone to promote it in my campus. If you work for mozilla, you're not allowed to talk about Firefox? If you work for RedHat, then you probably shouldn't even be on this list, as you're every post about Fedora would be in bad taste, right? I've yet to see a RH employee (and we do have a few on this list as far as I know) marketing any of RH's products or services here. Please note there's a difference between bringing out a strength of your company in a specific, relevant context and just going and willy-nilly plugging your product where there is no context and no relevance. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [Even more OT] Re: [OT] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
2008/6/17 Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [SNIP] Throwing in my weight (which is considerable) in to the ring.Good discussion. Things cleared and understood or misunderstood. One thing that is always to be remembered is that LUG is what its members want it to be. May be active (and many more sleepers) want this or that way. But they have to participate and be active to make it happen. Start a new thread (or more) and lets have exchange of ideas on each topic. -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] shabdanjali ISSUES
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've yet to see a RH employee (and we do have a few on this list as far as I know) marketing any of RH's products or services here. Please note there's a difference between bringing out a strength of your company in a specific, relevant context and just going and willy-nilly plugging your product where there is no context and no relevance. 1. Yes I agree to the willy-nilly (or whatever) part (though I didn't plug any product). I am ready to justify it and that is why I replied to this thread today. And if 'willy-nilly'ed then so did Mr. Gora. There's just no difference between mine and his post (if you observe carefully, with an unbiased eye). 2. I did not even talk about any Sun product here. OpenSolaris is not a sun product. It's an opensource community driven distro built from solaris sources pushed out in the open years ago. Just like Fedora. I am not representing 'my company' at all in any of these mails and I am not talking about any of their 'products'. Prove me wrong. -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] is being paid for promoting FOSS bad? [was] shabdanjali ISSUES
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what his motives are. I know what my motives are, and they aren't monetary at all. You just want to prove otherwise, all of you and won't give up until you prove it. You are confused with your own principles and rules. You 'say' that is not only a linux-list but you don't want it to be. Admit that it isn't and I will stop here and now. -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Even more OT] Re: [OT] {X-post} Experience of Prachi Saxena
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Throwing in my weight (which is considerable) in to the ring.Good discussion. Things cleared and understood or misunderstood. One thing that is always to be remembered is that LUG is what its members want it to be. May be active (and many more sleepers) want this or that way. But they have to participate and be active to make it happen. Start a new thread (or more) and lets have exchange of ideas on each topic. True, that's what the spirit of a LUG should be ! That's what open source means anyway. I agree on the participation part too. I'm ready, but I can't do it until people here are clear about 'my intentions'. -- Angad Singh http://angadsingh.in http://blogs.sun.com/angad The best way to predict future is to invent it ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Ilug-cal-discuss] [OT] the new blender movie is out
Hi all, It would be cool if people can distribute the movie alongwith some of the production files and artwork (.blend) so people can play with them. Even if people charge a reasonable something like 15-20 Rupees as replication charges its ok . -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Ilug-cal-discuss] [OT] the new blender movie is out
shirish wrote: Hi all, It would be cool if people can distribute the movie alongwith some of the production files and artwork (.blend) so people can play with them. Even if people charge a reasonable something like 15-20 Rupees as replication charges its ok . They have released the .blend files AFAIH, check the DVD release which is supposed have them. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Training
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM, RHK HK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please advice if there is any linux Training Institute or workshop available in Delhi or other state. Regards Pls reponse at email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
