Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:22:51 + (GMT) Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open Source University Meetup: Angad Singh has invited you to join Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup OSUM (pronounced awesome) is a global community of students that are passionate about Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). Calling all JIITians to join JIIT OSUM - the social network for geeks! Check out Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup: http://osum.sun.com/group/jiitosum?xgi=bRcZu48 [...] As has been requested many times before in similar cases, please do not post such generic invitations to mailing lists. To my mind, this constitutes abuse, and should be grounds for the poster being put on temporary moderation. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
Angad wrote: Check out Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup: http://osum.sun.com/group/jiitosum?xgi=bRcZu48 [...] Gora wrote: As has been requested many times before in similar cases, please do not post such generic invitations to mailing lists Hi Bro Angad, Would be great if you could be a little less generic-- post a few SPECIFIC words about the underlying philosophy and motivation and ideas behind the group; maybe a bit about the specific technologies core members of the OSUM group are interested in; maybe links to their blogs too. I dont agree with everything Gora says; but yea... there's a grain of truth in his objection... coz when I clicked the link, all I got was a landing page which asked me to register-- so even though I love watching demos and learning new techs I couldnt quite get what specifically (out of 3-4 specific goals) you guys aim at in starting OSUM. So buddy; for the benefit of folks like me; feel free to drop another mail with a slightly more detailed thingie about whose the target audience; interests/focus/achievements of core members of OSUM; and which specific open source technologies your initial focus will be on... (and dont say all Open Source Techs...) Also, dont take Gora's comments abt grounds for moderation to heart... he can be caustic at times, but he's just one more member of this group... just like you and me... take it as positive feedback and defend yourself if you think it's off-target, and remember, there are many who're interested in ventures like this one... if only you package the info as something instantly relevant... instead of visit the landing page and register Remember one person, one vote... Take Care... and Look fwd to hearing/learning more abt your venture... OSUM!!! NS On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:22:51 + (GMT) Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
Hi I was watching this thread from past few days...actually not read it full. on which *iux flavor i can install itif i download it... Regs... AjayB On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, --- On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | How to start with foss video editing: \-- LiVES? http://lives.sourceforge.net/ Tutorials: http://www.reimeika.ca/lives/lives_guide.html http://lives.sourceforge.net/content/tut_html/lives_mt_tut.html SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com Wow! This seems cool. Lemme download and use. I do believe now that I wont have to resort to FCP for my work. Thanks a lot SK. Either way I was planning to make a 2-5 minute small ad for Free Software, just for my our appetite. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- -- Best Regards Ajay Bramhe 9818215303 --- 9213345639 My Profile : http://www.geocities.com/ajay_bramhe2001 My Photo Gallery : http://www.flickr.com/photos/bramhe Excellence is not a singular act, but a habit. You are what you repeatedly do. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] A CPIM Hijack of Free Software Foundation?
http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2008-September/005460.html My mail is not appearing in the list archive Posting it again -- Forwarded message -- From: Anivar Aravind anivar.aravind at gmail.com Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM Subject: A CPIM Hijack of Free Software Foundation? To: Principal Support List of FSF-India fsf-friends at mm.gnu.org.in Cc: rms at gnu.org, Nagarjuna G. nagarjun at gnowledge.org, Nagarjuna G. nagarjunag at gmail.com Today I came to know about an event called freedom and software happening in Chennai on 21st September through a blog. The event website is a google site http://sites.google.com/site/freedomandsoftware/ Most of the friends participating are our friends. But this mail is for some clarifications The invitation text says following quote M. Subramanian - The Mayor, N. Ram - Editor, The Hindu, Debesh Das - Minister of Information Technology, West Bengal, Kiran Chandra - Director, Free Software Foundation India Prabir Purkayastha - Secretary, Delhi Science Forum, have been confirmed to be the panel of speakers. The objective of the event will be the launch of the project for the development of a Tamil Version of the GNU/ Linux operating system. The launch will be made by the Mayor, M.Subramanian. The project will be developed by engineering students with able technical support from the IT professionals professors, and infrastructural support by the entrepreneurs. The logo and caption for the Free Software Foundation, Tamil Nadu will be launched by Mr. N. Ram. The event will be attended by the IT professionals, Entrepreneurs, Researchers and professors of reputed colleges, from all over the country and the registration will be open to all, so you can bring all your friends as well. There will be no entry fee for the same. /quote My questions are Following 1.Is this event anyway related with Free Software Foundation? 2. This news is not announced in any Free Software Mailing lists, like FSF-Friends, FSF-Tn(http://mm.gnu.org.in//pipermail/fsf-tn/) ILUG Chennai etc . It is not announced yet in gnu.org.in also. Why This much secrecy around this? 3.. The above invitation text says logo and caption for the Free Software Foundation, Tamil Nadu will be launched in the function. Is FSF India decided to start regional FSFs? If yes why this is organising in a a secret maner? 3. The Invitation text says The objective of the event will be the launch of the project for the development of a Tamil Version of the GNU/ Linux operating system, why there is a need of another distribution when tamil is well supported in most of the upstream distributions? . Let it be the work of Tamil Localisation groups. 4. The contacts provided in the website contact page is not at all familiar in Free Software Community. And There is no information on who is organising this event. On a quick checkup with friends in Chennai, they says it is an event Organised by Communist Party of India (Marxist) . Thats why the secrecy. I don't have a problem in a political party supporting free software cause. But If it is the case i am very suspicious on following points 1. The exclusion of the Free Software Movement in Chennai in Organising it, 2. Creating a body with power structure before Contributing anything . I dont think a free software Foundation is not needed for releasing a Localised GNU/Linux Distribution 3. Secrecy in whole process of a Public event I am expecting a reply from FSF India on this Anivar -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, --- On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | How to start with foss video editing: \-- LiVES? http://lives.sourceforge.net/ the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix upped to debian... can't afford to muck around with my existing 'production' install. if you get it running smoothly, let the list know. regards niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Ajay Bramhe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I was watching this thread from past few days...actually not read it full. on which *iux flavor i can install itif i download it... Regs... AjayB Of course Ubuntu, if you already have it. If you are going to download, go for UbuntuStudio :-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
2008/9/19 Ajay Bramhe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I was watching this thread from past few days...actually not read it full. on which *iux flavor i can install itif i download it... The suggestion was to go for a flavour that is customised for multimedia usage with all software included. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix upped to debian... can't afford to muck around with my existing 'production' install. if you get it running smoothly, let the list know. regards niyam Ooops. I was a bit excited about it :( Hope I will find anything as good as commercial alternatives. -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
On Friday 19 Sep 2008, Nalin Savara wrote: [snip] Also, dont take Gora's comments abt grounds for moderation to heart... he can be caustic at times, but he's just one more member of this group... just like you and me... take it as positive feedback and defend yourself if you think it's off-target, and remember, there are many who're interested in ventures like this one... if only you package the info as something instantly relevant... instead of visit the landing page and register Remember one person, one vote... I'm afraid you have it completely wrong. Generic invitations to social networking sites are taboo here. If you feel there's a site worth visiting, send a *personal* mail to the list -- hey folks, I found this site, it has helped me, please join up. Even then it may not pass muster unless it's (a) relevant to everyone on the list (not just a few members of an organisation) and (b) strongly related to FOSS and/or Linux. Giving ILUGD's mailing address to some robot that sends out innumerable mails without discrimination can be considered, if not malicious, then at the very least extremely stupid. Take Care... and Look fwd to hearing/learning more abt your Who all want to contribute to the ``ILUGD Buy NS A Spelling Dictionary'' Fund? I'm putting in Rs 500 for starters ;) Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
On Friday 19 Sep 2008, Linux Lingam wrote: [snip] the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix upped to debian... Er, a Knoppix upped to Debian is hopelessly broken by definition. I wouldn't blame LiVES. On a standard Debian (and possibly other) system LiVES installs and runs with no issues at all. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
Er, a Knoppix upped to Debian is hopelessly broken by definition. I wouldn't blame LiVES. On a standard Debian (and possibly other) system LiVES installs and runs with no issues at all. Regards, -- Raju I will be trying that on Ubuntu 8.04 tonight, hope it would work. Asking off topic, I installed Lenny, but it has a lot of issues with Display. What could be the reason? Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
Hi, --- On Friday 19 Sep 2008, Linux Lingam wrote: | the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix | upped to debian... \-- I am using LiVES on Debian Lenny on x86. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:34:29 +0530 Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angad wrote: Check out Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup: http://osum.sun.com/group/jiitosum?xgi=bRcZu48 [...] Gora wrote: As has been requested many times before in similar cases, please do not post such generic invitations to mailing lists Hi Bro Angad, Would be great if you could be a little less generic-- post a few SPECIFIC words about the underlying philosophy and motivation and ideas behind the group. Agreed. For example, this would have been perfectly acceptable as part of the announcement of the JIIT software freedom celebrations. By the way, it is good to see other people doing such FOSS events. [...] Also, dont take Gora's comments abt grounds for moderation to heart... he can be caustic at times, [...] Excuse me? I can indeed be caustic at times, but maybe you can use your alkali detector to point out how this was the case here. I am also perfectly serious about temporary moderation on first offence in such cases. This is standard policy on other lists, and, in my opinion, is essential to try and stop the onslaught of unethical companies, like Orkut and Silicon India, masquerading as social networking sites. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
I am using LiVES on Debian Lenny on x86. SK Hey I installed Lenny, but display is creating issues can you help me in finding the problem. I can provide you with info you need. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
On Friday 19 Sep 2008, Linux Lingam wrote: [snip] the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix upped to debian... Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Er, a Knoppix upped to Debian is hopelessly broken by definition. Yup, I second that, from past experience. Don't do that. PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using LiVES on Debian Lenny on x86. SK Just to add to that lives is to be taken from the debian-multimedia.org repository. Doesn't come by default. There seems to be an issue with the newer audio libraries (namely libavcodec51) which doesn't allow some modules to get loaded though. Because of that a few packages like xvidcap became unavailable due to problems caused to ffmpeg. This was a few weeks back. Don't know if the problem is sorted now. (If somebody has newer information let me know). Hey I installed Lenny, but display is creating issues can you help me in finding the problem. I can provide you with info you need. Whats the problem? Having ATI/Nvidia or something else. does trying: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help? Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Regards Gajendra ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
Whats the problem? Having ATI/Nvidia or something else. does trying: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help? Swapnil ___ Movies don't play well, jerky; and images jitter when enlarged. I have Intel GMA 950, which is ok with Ubuntu as well as Debian Etch. Yes I did try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but no use. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
Hi Nalin, Gora and Raj, This was indeed extreme stupidity on my part. I let the Invite more feature of that site hijack my gmail account and send invites to all of my contacts, which included mailing lists aliases. I did it in a hurry and should have made been a lot more careful, it did not strike me that this would happen. Apologies for the email blast. -Angad On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:34:29 +0530 Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angad wrote: Check out Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup: http://osum.sun.com/group/jiitosum?xgi=bRcZu48 [...] Gora wrote: As has been requested many times before in similar cases, please do not post such generic invitations to mailing lists Hi Bro Angad, Would be great if you could be a little less generic-- post a few SPECIFIC words about the underlying philosophy and motivation and ideas behind the group. Agreed. For example, this would have been perfectly acceptable as part of the announcement of the JIIT software freedom celebrations. By the way, it is good to see other people doing such FOSS events. [...] Also, dont take Gora's comments abt grounds for moderation to heart... he can be caustic at times, [...] Excuse me? I can indeed be caustic at times, but maybe you can use your alkali detector to point out how this was the case here. I am also perfectly serious about temporary moderation on first offence in such cases. This is standard policy on other lists, and, in my opinion, is essential to try and stop the onslaught of unethical companies, like Orkut and Silicon India, masquerading as social networking sites. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Angad Singh http://blogs.sun.com/angad Sun Campus Ambassador Tech Lead ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer
Movies don't play well, jerky; and images jitter when enlarged. I have Intel GMA 950, which is ok with Ubuntu as well as Debian Etch. Yes I did try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but no use. If you have your debian etch settings replace your current xorg.conf with that one. (If not replace with maybe one generated by a knoppix live CD). Exact small tweaking may be needed. Better to take these two shortcuts. I have the same card on etch too and it works fine. Regards Gajendra ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
Cool; so I guess all's well that ends well. @Gora: [...] Also, dont take Gora's comments abt grounds for moderation to heart... he can be caustic at times, [...] Excuse me? I can indeed be caustic at times, but maybe you can use your alkali detector to point out how this was the case here. With due respect to you, I repeated much of what you said-- and rephrased your mail in a way that Angad feels a need to politely reply rather than there be a flame-fest like earlier--- about Solaris versus Linux. As much as I respect you; I felt, that getting a guy to automatically raise his defenses and fight it out--- with 30-40 mails exchanged is bad for a public mailing list's readership figures. Also, Gora, maybe it is a cultural thing but the way your mail was phrased it is easy to misunderstand it as a threat-- atleast many of my elders would have--- and react offensively--- will talk more of that someday offline in person with you. Regards, NS ps: end of exchange-- atleast from my side. @Raj: Kind Sir, a dictionary!!! wow... your Rs 500/- is happily accepted thanks in anticipation... Om, Shubh Labh, Shubh Labh (auspicious gain!!!) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Participate in ODF Olympiad for schools
-- Forwarded message -- From: Anivar Aravind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:15 PM Subject: [FSUG-Bangalore] Fwd: Participate in ODF Olympiad for schools To: Free Software Users Group - Bangalore [EMAIL PROTECTED], ഗ്നു/ലിനക്സ് കൂട്ടുകാര് - തിരുവനന്തപുരം [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- From: Jaijit Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear All, ODF Olympiad 2008 is open for submissions from Sep 20, 2008 (Software Freedom Day). Your children and their schools can win many prizes and also contribute to reducing the digital divide. For more information, visit www.odfolympiad.org. Please forward this mail to all relevant people and organizations. Thanks and regards Jaijit -- [image: Sun Microsystems] http://www.sun.com/ Jaijit Bhattacharya, PhD Director, Government Strategy India and Asia South Sun Microsystems India Pvt. Ltd. The Capital Court, Olof Palme Marg, 5th Floor, R Wing, Munirka New Delhi - 110 067 Direct:(91) 11 4219 1089 Board Number: (91) 11 4219 1100 Fax: (91) 11 2616 0928 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Document Format is an important standard for ensuring computer literacy and is fundamental to enabling computer education globally. ODF is easy to learn and anyone who has used any presentation software can immediately start using ODF software such as OpenOffice.org, StarOffice, IBM Symphony etc. We, along with IIT Delhi, Knowledge Commons, IOTA (Government of West Bengal), MAMPU (Government of Malaysia), JNU, IIM Ahmedabad and other organizations are conducting the ODF Olympiad 2008. ODF Olympiad tests the proficiency of school students in their usage of basic computers. The students are required to submit presentations using ISO complaint ODF format on specific topics which will be evaluated by an eminent jury based on specific parameters. Participate in the *ODF Olympiad' 2008*- an open standard inter-city contest to win : - Participation Certificate for All - Attractive prizes for 3 winners in each category - Silver Plaque for school of the winner in each Category - Prestigious ODF Olympiad Trophy for the winning School - Software Freedom Trophy for inter-country winning School ODF Olympiad is open to students from all countries. Submissions for ODF Olympiad will be open from* September 20th which is the Software Freedom Day.* I would request you to encourage your children and their schools to participate in ODF Olympiad 2008 *For details submissions log on to: *www.odfolympiad.org ___ FSUG-Bangalore mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ │ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ │ │ └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
LinkedIn Siddharth Shekhar requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: -- Vinay, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Siddharth View invitation from Siddharth Shekhar http://www.linkedin.com/e/qWyQOxWKoBniiga-E9SHaxMCNW6ih6nQ4y5zLL81tR/blk/760300664_2/cBYQdzoMc3cMdzsLqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/ -- DID YOU KNOW your LinkedIn profile helps you control your public image when people search for you? Setting your profile as public means your LinkedIn profile will come up when people enter your name in leading search engines. Take control of your image! http://www.linkedin.com/e/ewp/inv-22/ -- (c) 2008, LinkedIn Corporation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Fwd: [FSF] Thank you SGI, for freeing the GNU/Linux 3D desktop!
-- Forwarded message -- From: John Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:35 PM Subject: [FSF] Thank you SGI, for freeing the GNU/Linux 3D desktop! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In January of 2008, software code at the heart of GNU/Linux 3D applications was discovered to be non-free -- a potential disaster for free software advocates hoping to see advanced graphical acceleration now common on modern operating systems. The code, licensed by Silicon Graphics (SGI), was distributed under the SGI Free License B and the GLX Public License. These licenses, although permissive, contained three sets of terms which created significant burdens for all users and developers and a particular problem for the free software community because they made the code non-free (see the Free Software Definition at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html). The Free Software Foundation (FSF) Free Software Compliance Lab's Brett Smith explained, We discovered that these licenses covered contributions that SGI had made to the X.Org Project and the Mesa 3D Graphics Library. These projects, including SGI's code, are an important and familiar part of modern GNU/Linux desktop systems. The FSF Compliance Lab then worked with SGI towards today's announcement. You can read SGI's press release here: http://www.sgi.com/company_info/newsroom/press_releases/2008/september/opengl.html Please vote for their press release on digg.com at: http://digg.com/linux_unix/SGI_Further_Opens_Its_OpenGL_Contributions Steve Neuner of SGI said, SGI has been one of the most ardent commercial supporters of free and open source software, so it was important to us that we continue to support the free software development community by releasing our earlier OpenGL-related contributions under this new license. This license ensures that all existing user communities will benefit, and their work can proceed unimpeded. Both Mesa and the X.org Project can continue to utilize this code in free software distributions of GNU/Linux. Now more than ever, software previously released by SGI under earlier GLX and SGI Free Software License B is free. Welcoming today's announcement, Peter Brown, FSF executive director, said, We couldn't be happier with this decision, and we're very grateful to SGI for all their assistance. The FSF is committed to ensuring that everyone's computing tasks can be done with free software and this SGI code plays an important role in scientific and design applications and in the latest desktop environments and games. Still, there are a few legal loose ends that need to be tied up before GNU/Linux distributions can utilize all the code base in freedom. Brett Smith explained, There are a few other copyright holders that I'm working with to resolve their licensing issues and I'm confident that fully free distributions like gNewSense will soon be able to utilize all of this code. The FSF will be releasing further information early next week. In addition to thanking SGI for this major contribution, the FSF would like to thank the OpenBSD community for alerting the FSF to the problem. ### Media Contacts Peter Brown Executive Director Free Software Foundation +1 (617) 542 5942 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ info-fsf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ │ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ │ │ └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] How about having a PGP Keysigning party at Software Freedom Day ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I know it is quite late to propose PGP keysigning party[1]. But I'm wondering if something can be done about this. In case yes, then how about posting your key fingerprint to this thread, and meeting at venue with a photo id card proof, hmm..? id: 0x762E5E74 fingerprint: 1E00 4679 77E4 F8EE 2E4B 56F2 1F2F 8410 762E 5E74 References: [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signing_party Thanks Ashish Shukla - -- ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjT5hUACgkQHy+EEHYuXnSMuwCgzcWS7LSL5JSM6Jl4non9UOfR l6kAnRcFmuTDyI86IsVQa6Ni70qVRni1 =ewX3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
On Friday 19 September 2008 00:48:26 Raj Mathur wrote: Who all want to contribute to the ``ILUGD Buy NS A Spelling Dictionary'' Fund? I'm putting in Rs 500 for starters ;) There are more than one active NS on this list. One of them is definitely the candidate. ;) - Sandip ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] ubuntu-studio questions
Hi Friends, Firstly, my thanks to Gajendra of IIT-Del for giving me ubuntu 8 and to the group for sharing it's experiences. Secondly; some questions from my side, since I installed ubuntu 8 and also ubuntu studio; but am facing some issues:-- (1) Ubuntu-studio doesnt seem to remember network settings; infact after installing ubuntu studio, my WLAN is not working. WLAN worked perfect with LiveCD Boot and with some effort worked perfect with Ubuntu also. but after installing ubuntu-studio, it just stopped working. Can some-one please help me; share possible snafus that might be the cause of this ? (2) The boot-menu shows winXP as the last option. how to change the default order of OSes shown in on-boot menu ? Do let me know... Thanks and Regards, N.S ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
Hey, I got a idea that can we GPL our ideas ?? Like normally I use to get a large number of ideas which I will not able to implement in this life. But I want somebody should implement those ideas. But I do not want that somebody should use them as patent or propitiatory work. infact if Ideas are in GPL public domain then everybody is allowed to implement it. So in the current licence schemes , can i publish my ideas under GPL or similar licence. for example , let suppose I will a rocking idea for energy saving system and will tell the way of implement it,But i will not implement it, I want other companies to implement it. So is it possible to deliver the rocking ideas in public domain insuring that it will not be used for patent or similar purpose?? -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ubuntu-studio questions
(2) The boot-menu shows winXP as the last option. how to change the default order of OSes shown in on-boot menu ? Easy Way: sudo editor-of-ur-choice /boot/grub/menu.lst and then change the order acc to your preference Another way(easy or difficult, u decide :) ): sudo apt-get install startupmanager, then run startupmanager, choose ur default os. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ubuntu-studio questions
thanks Shantz; I really 'preciate your suggestions- they're of great help, will do that. What about getting Ubuntu Studio to remember the WLAN settings ? Quick Ques to Shantz: Do you use Ubuntu Studio ? Do reply if possible... Best Regards and Thanks Again, NS On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:14 AM, shantanu goel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: (2) The boot-menu shows winXP as the last option. how to change the default order of OSes shown in on-boot menu ? Easy Way: sudo editor-of-ur-choice /boot/grub/menu.lst and then snip ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
2008/9/20 narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey, I got a idea that can we GPL our ideas ?? Like normally I use to get a large number of ideas which I will not able to implement in this life. But I want somebody should implement those ideas. But I do not want that somebody should use them as patent or propitiatory work. infact if Ideas are in GPL public domain then everybody is allowed to implement it. So in the current licence schemes , can i publish my ideas under GPL or similar licence. for example , let suppose I will a rocking idea for energy saving system and will tell the way of implement it,But i will not implement it, I want other companies to implement it. So is it possible to deliver the rocking ideas in public domain insuring that it will not be used for patent or similar purpose?? Does GFDL (GNU Free Documentation License) fit the bill here? (if we term the description of our idea or implementation as a document) -- I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, U can't prove anything - Bart Simpson http://blog.shantanugoel.com http://tech.shantanugoel.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
2008/9/20 narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, I got a idea that can we GPL our ideas ?? Like normally I use to get a large number of ideas which I will not able to implement in this life. But I want somebody should implement those ideas. But I do not want that somebody should use them as patent or propitiatory work. infact if Ideas are in GPL public domain then everybody is allowed to hehe... nice one man. But like they say... the ideas are free, it's the execution that brings in the money... Or as the Late Great Edison said 1 % inspiration, 99% perspiration... What say ppl ? Just my thoughts would love to hear more... Best Rgds, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Friday 19 September 2008 00:48:26 Raj Mathur wrote: Who all want to contribute to the ``ILUGD Buy NS A Spelling Dictionary'' Fund? I'm putting in Rs 500 for starters ;) There are more than one active NS on this list. One of them is definitely the candidate. ;) I would've never guessed this one! My 250/- INR. Shall I do Bank transfer? ;-) Best Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ubuntu-studio questions
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Shantz; I really 'preciate your suggestions- they're of great help, will do that. What about getting Ubuntu Studio to remember the WLAN settings ? Quick Ques to Shantz: Do you use Ubuntu Studio ? I don't use Ubuntu Studio (Don't have that much artistic creativity in me to be able to put it to use :) ) That's why bypassed the first question.. BTW, what exactly do u mean by remembering the wlan settings? Did you set them up in network manager applet configuration? I always use roaming mode as manual configuration didn't work for me... -- I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, U can't prove anything - Bart Simpson http://blog.shantanugoel.com http://tech.shantanugoel.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Vivek Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would've never guessed this one! My 250/- INR. Shall I do Bank transfer? ;-) No buddy, better you give it in person so that I can give you a piece of my mind also also. Tell me; is writing abt instead of about so damn deviant that you need to pass sarcastic remarks like this ? Or is it that you enjoy being patronizing and kicking a man when he is down, expecting that you'll get away with it ? with the next 1 billion internet users expected to access net frm mobile devices, IMHO it's the ones that make sharp remarks abt SMS lingo that need a SMS dictionary--- rather than me. It's just a opinion--- based on fact--- but if chat lingo can be used, then why not SMS lingo rather than queen's english ? Brother, since your blog analyzes psychology also; tell me we celebrating the software freedom day; but why still this slave mentality and competition to be more english than the englishman himself ??? We gotta get out of our slave mentality... and we gotta stop licking our colonial master's boots-- before our country can really emerge as a global power in it's own right. Think about it... -N.S ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
I have searched on internet but APMK (as per my knowledge), only thing we can make a proper documentation [rather then having a one line eureka and them ] and publish it under GPL. Using this way , nobody will be able to patent it. see this : http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg55240.html But still I am not sure about relaasing the ideas !! I am still not sure that a idea (concept with high level achitecture idea) can be protected under GPL or FIL (free idea licence :) On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/20 narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, I got a idea that can we GPL our ideas ?? Like normally I use to get a large number of ideas which I will not able to implement in this life. But I want somebody should implement those ideas. But I do not want that somebody should use them as patent or propitiatory work. infact if Ideas are in GPL public domain then everybody is allowed to hehe... nice one man. But like they say... the ideas are free, it's the execution that brings in the money... Or as the Late Great Edison said 1 % inspiration, 99% perspiration... What say ppl ? Just my thoughts would love to hear more... Best Rgds, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ │ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ │ │ └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
Narendra wrote: I have searched on internet but APMK (as per my knowledge), only thing we can make a proper documentation [rather then having a one line eureka and them ] and publish it under GPL. Using this way , nobody will be able to patent it. Buddy, That's right. Also, as per US Patent laws, a idea or process can be patented only if it is not already public knowledge at the time the patent application was filed. But yes, on a more serious note beyond Edison's quote; I feel that what you mention has been an issue since time immemorial--- that if one has a good idea and not the time to single-mindedly pursue it; then how can one put that idea in the service of humanity--- without someone else making the bucks on it OR restricting public access to that idea for others who too may take it forward. I would love to hear/learn more abt this. Please do feel free to share your further thoughts on this matter. Best Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ubuntu-studio questions
shantanu goel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, what exactly do u mean by remembering the wlan settings? Did you set them up in network manager applet configuration? I always use roaming mode as manual configuration didn't work for me... Thank you a lot-- I really appreciate your kind suggestion and I will definitely give that a shot. This issue is something I am pretty irritated about-- and is something I am desperately seeking to solve. Furthermore, if possible, I will collate the snaps as well as my experiences in a blog. I dont use ubuntu-studio But man... have you seen the look of it ? If you think iPod is sexy, then chk out ubuntu studio... it is like ipod on rohypnol !!! Thanks and Best Regards, -N.S ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ubuntu-studio questions
I dont use ubuntu-studio But man... have you seen the look of it ? If you think iPod is sexy, then chk out ubuntu studio... it is like ipod on rohypnol !!! Well, actually I don't think iPod is sexy :P About the looks, anyways for that you don't need to install ubuntu studio, just install the ubuntustudio-look package :) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Narendra wrote: I have searched on internet but APMK (as per my knowledge), only thing we can make a proper documentation [rather then having a one line eureka and them ] and publish it under GPL. Using this way , nobody will be able to patent it. Buddy, That's right. Also, as per US Patent laws, a idea or process can be patented only if it is not already public knowledge at the time the patent application was filed. But yes, on a more serious note beyond Edison's quote; I feel that what you mention has been an issue since time immemorial--- that if one has a good idea and not the time to single-mindedly pursue it; then how can one put that idea in the service of humanity--- without someone else making the bucks on it OR restricting public access to that idea for others who too may take it forward. I would love to hear/learn more abt this. Please do feel free to share your further thoughts on this matter. Best Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Can we make our own licence scheme and publish idea over that. I mean , If we do not such system for this then how we can develop a system for publishing free ideas, moreover it will provide a platform for discussing ideas. Where use can check his idea is already published and then he can find similar person who can work on the same idea. we can call it as socialing ideas. my main concern is about do we have any system for this ? -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ │ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ │ │ └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
Narendra wrote: Can we make our own licence scheme and publish idea over that. I mean , If we do not such system for this then how we can develop a system for publishing free ideas, moreover it will provide a platform for discussing ideas. Where use can check his idea is already published and then he can Narendra, I think what you say is definitely a solid thing--- and we should do it. A bit like a creative commons license--- but for ideas. Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
Nalin Savara wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Vivek Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would've never guessed this one! My 250/- INR. Shall I do Bank transfer? ;-) No buddy, better you give it in person so that I can give you a piece of my mind also also. Tell me; is writing abt instead of about so damn deviant that you need to pass sarcastic remarks like this ? Or is it that you enjoy being patronizing and kicking a man when he is down, expecting that you'll get away with it ? There is a purpose behind each activity. This is a public mailing list the audience is varied. The so called 'SMS Lingo' unnecessarily requires a level of concentration for decoding which not only wastes precious time but has other side effects such as poor search indexing. There is a huge difference in sending a 160 character SMS in which a single word can be abbreviated differently even by the same user, let alone others who use their own protocols. The first principle of communication is that the language being used shall be understood by the parties interacting, otherwise there's no communication at all. I am not sure what good intention you may have trying to rewrite the rules hiding behind the colonial and the slave mentality concept. The reply I had sent was in light humor. I didn't mean to offend, as I did I'm sorry for that. I think I'll be a bit more careful in future. Best Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ubuntu-studio questions
Shantanu wrote: About the looks, anyways for that you don't need to install ubuntu studio, just install the ubuntustudio-look package :) Awesome Shantz!!! (not OSUM :-))) ) This definitely sounds like a interesting thing to try; especially if I had'nt installed ubuntu-studio. Though personally I installed the ubuntustudio-look package--- before installing ubuntu-studio--- but somehow couldnt figure how to switch the look to that. Tell me: how does one switch the look of ubuntu-linux ? You know, switch to the ubuntu-studio look when without ubuntu-studio--- and switch to non-ubuntu-studio look / menu scheme when with ubuntu-studio ? Would really appreciate a pointer/comment on menu commands etc for that Thanks and Best Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
Vivek Kapoor wrote: The reply I had sent was in light humor. I didn't mean to offend, as I did I'm sorry for that. I think I'll be a bit more careful in future. Thank you. My apologies too, to you Vivek; incase I offended you in some way-- but the reference was being made to a single message in which I rephrased a mail because I believed it would avoid a big fight on the list--- and I felt offended because I think it is better if bygones are treated as bygones. Best Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Narendra wrote: Can we make our own licence scheme and publish idea over that. I mean , If we do not such system for this then how we can develop a system for publishing free ideas, moreover it will provide a platform for discussing ideas. Where use can check his idea is already published and then he can Narendra, I think what you say is definitely a solid thing--- and we should do it. A bit like a creative commons license--- but for ideas. Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ This sort of thing is very less common because very rarely a persons think in the diffrent way. So it is not having much atention. But what about a rare person who use to 1 noval idea every month or more frequent. I have many simpler ideas of jugad or some super ideas which can be patentable but I want let it be in public domain. So I was just asking and searching for the patent free ideas. -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ │ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ │ │ └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
2008/9/20 narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] This sort of thing is very less common because very rarely a persons think in the diffrent way. So it is not having much atention. But what about a rare person who use to 1 noval idea every month or more frequent. I have many simpler ideas of jugad or some super ideas which can be patentable but I want let it be in public domain. So I was just asking and searching for the patent free ideas. Narendra I personally am very cynical-- about people's and corporation's ability to try to snatch or steal credit OR to misuse such licenses by stating generalizations and then a big corporation with millions of $$s for lawyers suing a 2-3 person startup which cannot even afford licenses for non-free software. I have had the experience of having had my own work snatched-- and so as much as I enjoy discussion-- I would fear that someone declares ownership of a idea--- and prevents people like me from profitting on the implementation. Furthermore; if I were you; I would rather focus on refining my own skills and trying to found a startup OR be part of the next Indian big thing--- rather than try to GPL ideas--- though ofcourse I am not you--- and you are free to take your ideas about GPL for ideas forward--- best of luck. Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/20 narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] This sort of thing is very less common because very rarely a persons think in the diffrent way. So it is not having much atention. But what about a rare person who use to 1 noval idea every month or more frequent. I have many simpler ideas of jugad or some super ideas which can be patentable but I want let it be in public domain. So I was just asking and searching for the patent free ideas. Narendra I personally am very cynical-- about people's and corporation's ability to try to snatch or steal credit OR to misuse such licenses by stating generalizations and then a big corporation with millions of $$s for lawyers suing a 2-3 person startup which cannot even afford licenses for non-free software. I have had the experience of having had my own work snatched-- and so as much as I enjoy discussion-- I would fear that someone declares ownership of a idea--- and prevents people like me from profitting on the implementation. Furthermore; if I were you; I would rather focus on refining my own skills and trying to found a startup OR be part of the next Indian big thing--- rather than try to GPL ideas--- I am already working on some set of Ideas. but their are many such small and big ideas which can affect whole system. For example may be I will post a intelligent power saving scheme for automatic shutdown of computer monitor for industries which is nothing more then a tech-jugad or a common sense. But I never found such thing in industry, Even if i make a product company i will money for 1-3 month, after that some other companies will come up with their own solution. So the my efforts will not useful. so it is better to release such ideas for public to implement. releasing the ideas will be useful in a case where you already have a lot of ideas to implement or you are a lazy who do not want to implement it. though ofcourse I am not you--- and you are free to take your ideas about GPL for ideas forward--- best of luck. Regards, NS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ │ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ │ │ └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [OT] Re: Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
On Friday 19 September 2008 13:05:55 Nalin Savara wrote: It's just a opinion--- based on fact--- but if chat lingo can be used, then why not SMS lingo rather than queen's english ? What exactly is the fact out here? :) - Sandip ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] sms speak in mailing lists (was) Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
On Friday 19 September 2008 13:05:55 Nalin Savara wrote: with the next 1 billion internet users expected to access net frm mobile devices, IMHO it's the ones that make sharp remarks abt SMS lingo that need a SMS dictionary--- rather than me. If you had been using a language, then it would be a lesser problem. The point is that 'SMS lingo' is not a *language*. If all you people writing sms-speak would write the same word the same way all the time, you would probably have a better case to argue about it being an acceptable form of communication and perhaps, the rest of us would cringe and accept it as yet another inevitable sign of us getting older. But you do not, and every person writing in such a form has a different interpretation of how to communicate. Actually, I would consider this as noise, in a community where written communication is the major mode of how people interact. So till sms-speak becomes a language, it is going to be considered to be an inferior and an unwanted form of communication here. Nobody is going to ban people writing in such a form, but people who could have had a more fruitful discussion with you, might not. P.S. I consider this discussion to be very relevant to this list, as this is a frequently discussed topic (and is actually mentioned in out list guidelines) and am therefore not marking this mail OT. offtopic I am actually a bit surprised how a mere collective suggestion from people about writing in the official language of this list has to go towards accusations of genuflecting to the British, especially when you are arguing for a (probably american) variation of this language itself. :) It has been 60+ years since we sent the Britishers out, and the fact that we are still using English should amply show that it is as native to this land by now as any other state language. In fact, more people use English virtually as their first language than there are native speakers for many dialects in this country (citation needed :-P ) /offtopic - Sandip ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
On Friday 19 September 2008 12:43:06 narendra sisodiya wrote: Hey, I got a idea that can we GPL our ideas ?? Like normally I use to get a large number of ideas which I will not able to implement in this life. But I want somebody should implement those ideas. But I do not want that somebody should use them as patent or propitiatory work. infact if Ideas are in GPL public domain then everybody is allowed to implement it. So in the current licence schemes , can i publish my ideas under GPL or similar licence. for example , let suppose I will a rocking idea for energy saving system and will tell the way of implement it,But i will not implement it, I want other companies to implement it. So is it possible to deliver the rocking ideas in public domain insuring that it will not be used for patent or similar purpose?? IANAL. First of all, public domain is equivalent to no licence at all, and could probably only theoretically prevent software patents. The only way to *ensure* that it cannot be patented is someone going through every patent application from this day onwards to check if it matches any of your ideas in the public domain. Of course, it is not practical and so you can stop thinking on this line. :) Also, unless your idea is overtly visible, you can never ensure that it is not hidden by implementations protected by trade secrets. My suggestion would be that, if you really interested in the world benefiting from your ideas, to worry less about who can exploit it and instead just go ahead and publish it in some way. The form of publishing(books, art,etc.) could be copyrighted and put in public domain or some of the creative common licenses. What you should worry about is how to disseminate it as much as possible (and therefore it is important you use as liberal a distribution licence as possible) as the more widespread it becomes, the better protection it will get against some one trying to patent it in some way. - Sandip P.S. The world of patents is full of jugaads(we call them hacks, BTW ;) ). So don't let it stop you. :) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT]Come join me on Jaypee Institute of Information Technology University OSUM on Open Source University Meetup...
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Vivek Kapoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would've never guessed this one! My 250/- INR. Shall I do Bank transfer? ;-) No buddy, better you give it in person so that I can give you a piece of my mind also also. Tell me; is writing abt instead of about so damn deviant that you need to pass sarcastic remarks like this ? Or is it that you enjoy being patronizing and kicking a man when he is down, expecting that you'll get away with it ? with the next 1 billion internet users expected to access net frm mobile devices, IMHO it's the ones that make sharp remarks abt SMS lingo that need a SMS dictionary--- rather than me. It's just a opinion--- based on fact--- but if chat lingo can be used, then why not SMS lingo rather than queen's english ? Brother, since your blog analyzes psychology also; tell me we celebrating the software freedom day; but why still this slave mentality and competition to be more english than the englishman himself ??? We gotta get out of our slave mentality... and we gotta stop licking our colonial master's boots-- before our country can really emerge as a global power in it's own right. OMG, Never thought of that.. Hmm, Can we make this hindi-writing-reritng-speaking mailing list ? :D -- Thanks and Regards Gaurav Mishra Linux User #348873 http://gauravmishra.info/blog When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
On Saturday 20 Sep 2008, narendra sisodiya wrote: Hey, I got a idea that can we GPL our ideas ?? Like normally I use to get a large number of ideas which I will not able to implement in this life. But I want somebody should implement those ideas. But I do not want that somebody should use them as patent or propitiatory work. infact if Ideas are in GPL public domain then everybody is allowed to implement it. So in the current licence schemes , can i publish my ideas under GPL or similar licence. for example , let suppose I will a rocking idea for energy saving system and will tell the way of implement it,But i will not implement it, I want other companies to implement it. So is it possible to deliver the rocking ideas in public domain insuring that it will not be used for patent or similar purpose?? Interesting enough as the ``idea'' is :) , I'm afraid it's not feasible for multiple reasons. Firstly, what you're discussing is a form of ``pre-patent''. Patents are on ideas that have existing implementations. Now, patents are bad enough but if we permit, e.g. Microsux to start patenting ideas no one will ever be able to develop software again, since they'll just put 10,000 people into generating ideas and making them proprietary. Remember, you're not the only one with ideas, and GPL-ing them wouldn't be the only thing possible if the law permitted protecting ideas. Then there's the whole question of implementation. Current laws do not permit protecting ideas without implementations for a very good reason: ideas are a dime a dozen (no offence intended). That's one of the reasons you have both FSF and GNU -- the one generates ideas, and the other generates implementations of those ideas that can be protected by law. Third, no law currently exists to protect an idea. Sure, you can document it and protect the document using some licence, but if someone rewords the idea and creates a new document incorporating it she can use the same laws to protect her document too. The legal system currently doesn't (and probably never will) protect bare ideas themselves. The closest thing you can do today is to implement your idea and try to get a patent on it (which I personally believe is a bad move). You /may/ then be able to get some level of protection. Otherwise you're out of luck. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Licence schemes for the Ideas !!!
Thanks for inputs. I think, I can start posting the small ideas which I never want to implement so that somebody can implement and get benefits. for example, ultrafast method of fishing using hand grenade or laser :P (just kidding) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] { Project Idea } Power Saving Scheme for Electronic Devices in Industrial and Software firms using RFID
--- This *Idea Document* is licenced under GNU, FDL All are free to implement it. Nobody is allowed to derive patents on it. Author is too busy to check that it has already implemented or not. Author is releasing on mailing list so that discussion can bring that some more ideas and related work. Please do not complain/abuse if you find this as a stupid idea. (c) - Narendra Sisodiya - * Title : Power Saving Scheme for Electronic Devices in Industrial and software firms using RFID Abstract : *This system make intelligent decision for device turn-off or turn-on which is based on correlation between location of a user and his electronics device such as monitor's using RFID or similar sensor technology. * Description : *Normally in office we use computer monitor and employees use to forget to turnoff/shutdown their system or monitor. same case with lights. We can have a automated intelligent shutdown scheme using RFID position location. In this system, a central database we will be maintained a record for location of electronic device such as computer monitor and will assign a unique device ID. This will also maintain a record for the employees who is using it. So, This database will maintain a user profile under which certain devices will be assigned to a employee. Employee will maintain RFID based or similar low cost sensors which can use triangulation algorithm to discover the position of employee and his system devices and calculate distance and behavior of employee and make a intelligent decision to shutdown the system monitor which consume a large mount of electricity. *Algorithm for Intelligence : *the basic idea of intelligence is to calculate the distance between user and system monitor and decide if he is outside the Building then turnoff the system monitor and corresponding lights. If he is inside the building then decide on the basic past experience. Like user can go for lunch. System finds that if he is away form his place for more then 5-10 minute then turnoff monitors. If user is going outside and coming back again and again for every 5 and 10 minute them we can increase the wait time. We can Also include the Keyboard /mouse under decision process. If we sit against any system it is very unlikely that we do not touch keyboard and mouse for more then 5-10 minute, So this system can also decide that if user is talking to some body and not doing any useful work on computer for more then 20 minutes ( detected by no more keystroke or moving mouse events) then also we can shut down the monitor. After making the decision , the central server will send proper signal to disable power of a particular port. In think , A huge amount of electricity can be saved using this scheme. I do not know more on RFID technology. So I do not know the implementations of distance calculation using RFID. May be we can use some technology such as GPS etc. Regards -- ┌───[ Narendra Sisodiya ]──┐ │ http://narendra.techfandu.org │ │ http://www.lug-iitd.org │ └[ +91-93790-75930 ]──┘ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] { Project Idea } Power Saving Scheme for Electronic Devices in Industrial and Software firms using RFID
On Saturday 20 Sep 2008, narendra sisodiya wrote: [snip] All are free to implement it. Nobody is allowed to derive patents on it. The ideas are good, but I doubt if the second statement (not deriving patents) has any validity. OTOH IANAL, TINLA :) -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] FOSS MS Exchange replacement
2008/8/4 Anand Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the subject says, is there an all-FOSS MS Exchange server replacement? One that does mail and calendaring with LookOut at least. A built-in (or known to work) web-based mail and calendaring add-on would be nice to have Regards, -- Raju http://obm.org From slashdot today http://drupal.zarafa.com/download-community -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: I know most of people do not follow email niceties (mostly they are not aware) but if you follow bottom post/in-line post style of email conversations it becomes a whole lot easier to carry on meaningful dialogue and you can snip out what is not meaningful too. Most people just hit reply button and top post leaving prior message appended uselessly at bottom. See if you can adopt this style and persuade others. In case you are already doing this . great, spread the message. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
