Re: [ilugd] Shocking and Sad news.
It is indeed a shocking news. I have known him through his activities and also had good fortune of meeting him once personally. I do hope everyone of the group will try to carry on his legacy forward. Prof. (Dr.) Anil Kumar Pandey Director- General GNIT Group of Institutions, Greater NOIDA --- On Thu, 13/12/12, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com wrote: From: Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ilugd] Shocking and Sad news. To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Thursday, 13 December, 2012, 4:55 AM On 12/13/2012 01:00 AM, Kishore Bhargava wrote: 12-12-12. What a very very sad day. We lost a very dear friend, Raj Mathur. People who knew and have met Raj will always remember him as a lively and humourous person - brutally honest and a man of principles. Raj was a founder member of the Indian Linux Users Group and a very active member of the Free and Open Source community. Well respected and extremely knowledgable, he was often sought after for advice which he readily dispersed. Raj loved to have fun and encouraged everyone around him to do the same. He loved his food, his movies, his music and being with friends and family. A brilliant hacker and much respected for his pioneering work, he will be missed by one and all. Rest in peace, Raj Oldmonk Mathur. Though I never met him personally, but I knew he was a very nice person. Heartfelt condolences for his family and friends. RIP, Raj Oldmonk Mathur; that's what all I can pray. -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman (http://werc.homelinux.net/contact/) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Special Economic Zone in Himachal Pradesh
Hello, We have Head office in Delhi, Could any one help me on establishing SEZ unit in Himachal Pradesh for IT Industries, I would like to know the procedure, can I run that unit separately as a branch or I have to open new office there? or have to take SEZ registration at Delhi? Please help me on this issue. Regards, Anil Sharma -- Srijan Technologies Private limited Solitaire Plaza Unit No. 303, 3rd floor MG Road, Gurgaon-122001 P.No. 0124-4849300-10 Fax-0124-4102920 Website:www.srijan.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Bad news for mobile Linux
On 11 February 2011 16:32, Vivek Kapoor subs...@exain.com wrote: Nokia has partnered with Micro$oft and will deliver WM7 devices. No more MeeGo. MeeGo was possibly going to be the actual open-source OS available on mobile devices. Stephen Elop, Nokia's current CEO has said Win phone is their primary smartphone strategy. MeeGo hasn't yet been released and probably that's the last of it now. Had been waiting for a Meego device for almost 6-8 months now :-( http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=3537Itemid=74 Microsoft applies make-up to Nokia's corpse Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Problem in ubuntu login
Have you tried the safe boot alternate on Ubuntu? What problem does that give? If it is a Intel 845/945, this could be video freezing problem. You can find links for the problems using google search. Anil On 4 February 2011 12:02, Mukul Sharma mukul...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I am having OS Ubuntu 10.10 in my system. I just updated my OS yesterday night and in the morning i was unable to access my system. The system is asking the password to login but neither the keyboard nor the mouse is working. Although the keyboard and mouse are working fine in the parallel OS Window7. Please help me in figuring out this problem. Thanks Mukul Sharma mukul...@gmail.com Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] KEYBOARD Problem
You may need to explain what is Windows 7 on this list. Anill On 25 January 2011 10:13, ashish gupta ashish.hc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, My keyboard is not working properly from last couple of the days.I m have lenovo Y500 series laptop with windows 7 . Without pressing function key(Fn) its working as when i press fn key .and shift+ those key for capital latter (ex I,O,P) is not working . if any body know what should i have to do to overcome with this problem .please let me know thanks -- *Regards * *Ashish Kumar * *mob No :9989273252* ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] linux
You may want to look at this. Intel 845 graphics cards have had a problem for the last year or so. http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bubuntu-x%5D-intel-845g-855gm-hangs-90191/ You may wish to disable desktop effects in case they are enabled. That may work on your system. Regards Anil On 22 January 2011 10:53, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: (P) 2.53 GHz/533 *Chipset* Intel 845GV *Motherboard* Giovani2-GL6 please suggest me where do you live ? i mean area , then it would be easier someone from that area can help you . -Satya satyaakam.net ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Commercial] Co-locating with Srijan in Gurgaon
We're based at Signature Towers in Gurgaon. The office space we currently (about 2850 sq. ft.) have is much larger than what we require in the current team. We had a lot of aggressive growth plans, which are shelved. Our Dev+QA team size is about 25 people. We plan to remain broadly this size only. The office rental is quite a lot, and therefore we're looking out for companies who may want to co-locate. Our office can easily accommodate a team of 15-20 people. We could have a common Admin department. We're interested in companies with whom we could form a business 'synergy' - those working in the following domains: - Social Media Marketing - Design agencies - Corporate training - Content/Technical Writing - Software Development (Drupal, Rails, Java, Django) About Srijan Srijan Technologies is a leading Drupal development company having built sites like www.openthemagazine.com and www.mnn.com. It works on the entire stack related to Drupal - a) Configuration and Development, b) Performance Tuning c) Support and Maintenance. It also works on FaceBook apps, and shortly getting into iPhone and Android development. Should you be interested to find out more, please call Anil Sharma at: +91 98997 45832 or write to him at a...@srijan.in -- Srijan Technologies Private limited 1207, Signature Towers, 12th Floor Tower B, N.H. 8, South City 1 Gurgaon-122001 P.No. 0124-4849300-10 Fax-0124-4102920 Website:www.srijan.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] ubuantu 10.10
On 11 January 2011 13:31, vivek kumar vivek.2k...@gmail.com wrote: hi All i have install 10.10 ubuntu in Piv machine with 512mb ram but after 30 minuts system hang but is the problem its ram issu plz suggest me ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd I had problems with P4's with intel video on Fedora 12 and Ubuntu 9.10 onwards. If the PC has an intel 945 graphics chipset, the likelihood of the system freezing with Fedora 12 or Ubuntu 9.10 is very high. The solution I applied for may parents computer was to use Arch Linux and downgrade half a dozen packages a year ago. The method was partly documented - http://sethanil.blogspot.com/2010/01/arch-linux-for-parents.html Everything but the half a dozen packages on the system are current - including 2.6.36 kernel on the system. Regards Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] A firewall for UBUNTU
In case a versatile and powerful firewall is needed. http://www.fwbuilder.org/ On 6 October 2010 10:54, Jeba Singh Emmanuel jebasingh.emman...@gmail.com wrote: UFW - https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html Firestarter - http://www.fs-security.com/ On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Ajay Bramhe bra...@gmail.com wrote: Friends... Can someone tell me about a nice firewall which i can configure on UBUNTU. Which is easy to download and configure :) - Regards... Ajay ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] calculator with a memory?
Hi, On 20 August 2010 20:46, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Raju Mathur said on Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:50:56PM +0530,: bc and dc don't meet your needs? Frankly, have not tried either. Figuring out commands and options is the last thing one wants while fingering through a sheaf of papers. Thanks to all of you who responded; and apologies for the late reply; had to extend what was supposed to be a one day trip. And I should admit that I rarely install the packagename-help or -doc packages. (of course, the man pages are). Mostly because I rarely read them. Usually can decipher things simply by staring at the screen, or experimenting with commands. -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com A closed mouth gathers no feet. 1. Why not Gnome calculator. It has Advanced, Scientific Financial modes. In all but the basic mode, it has variables - a,b,c, x, y and z Current result can be saved in any of the variables. Using them is easy, just type x + y and the values stored in x y will be added. 2. KCalc has the common Memory register. I can't recall my 'favourite' calculator. It's display was like a paper scroll so virtually unlimited memory. I could pick and any value from the scroll. Regards Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] calculator with a memory?
On 20 August 2010 16:04, Anil Seth seth.a...@gmail.com wrote: I can't recall my 'favourite' calculator. It's display was like a paper scroll so virtually unlimited memory. I could pick and any value from the scroll. I found it - it is the calculator in Sugar! anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Initrd query
On 24 July 2010 15:19, Mahesh Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Can an initrd image built for one hard ware boot other hard ware configuration? Specifically, my ups conked out taking regular machines down with it. Nothing much can be done. And i an lucky to get back the disk with data and os intact. That was an msi mobo with via chipset. Today evening I will get a new system with asus m2n 68 am mobo and nvidia 7025 chipset. Will i be able boot on new mobo using old initrd image? If not what do i need to do? The old initrd image is built using the option to use only required modules. Which meant several modules were left out and i got a very small initrd image and faster system. Apologies for poor formatting. Posting from mobile. Dunno how to enter line break. ___ The initrd on installation media is quite generic. You can use that. If you can boot into the system from an alternate medium, chroot and you can use mkinitrd to create a fresh one. Regards Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
On 23 July 2010 18:57, Vivek Kapoor subs...@exain.com wrote: On 07/23/2010 06:32 PM, Sagar Belure sagar.bel...@gmail.com wrote: Please, bear with me, if I'm not able to properly present my requirement. There are some 32 and 64 bit ubuntu systems in same network. I want only one system(like, one 32 and one 64 bit systems) to be updated and upgraded on daily basis. And, rest of the systems, to fetch those updated packages before they go online and check for new packages. From what I have understood, you don't want every machine to download from the Ubuntu repositories, but only one machine should do the task. It'll handle 32bit and 64bit without any issues. Use one of the following apt-proxy, apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, approx I started with apt-cacher and faced update issues in long term use, so I moved to approx and was happy with it, but newer version presented a bit difficulty in the sense that it didn't run its own daemon. So I moved onto apt-cacher-ng which has been working well for quite some time now. Hope it helps. Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com I have used a simplistic approach by linking /var/cache/apt./archives to a common NFS mounted directory. Only requirement is that no root squash option is needed. It does not even matter which system is updated first as all subsequent updates find the package in the common cache. Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Distributed updates in Ubuntu
On 23 July 2010 19:51, Vivek Kapoor subs...@exain.com wrote: On 07/23/2010 07:23 PM, Anil Seth seth.a...@gmail.com wrote: I have used a simplistic approach by linking /var/cache/apt./archives to a common NFS mounted directory. Only requirement is that no root squash option is needed. It does not even matter which system is updated first as all subsequent updates find the package in the common cache. Wouldn't it create difficulty/corruption if two machines are trying to download a package at the same time? I think the caching tools are designed to prevent that. Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com Yes, it can have issues. For small networks, it is more of an occasional/potential nuisance. For my personal home needs it was not an issue. Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] e-filint IT returns?
On 12 July 2010 21:03, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody here e-file IT returns? Are you able to do it from a FLOSS platform, err.. a PC running GNU/Linux? The IT department provides onl a .xls file, and a .pdf file; the former gives several errors in OO.o, the latter does not open, not even in the official acroread I had downloaded from marillat. (Marillat is the non-official repository of encumbered software for Debian). Any ideas? PDF for ITR1 opened in Acrobat reader(on fedora 13) but seems to save only the second page. I could save the XML file but it loaded only the second page. I haven't tried to file online. On the xls files, the generation of xml and validation options did not work - so wasn't useful. Regards Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Laxmicharan Samineni would like to add you as a friend on Skoost
On 20 April 2010 17:08, Sirtaj Singh Kang sir...@sirtaj.net wrote: On 20-Apr-10, at 4:52 PM, Anil Seth wrote: [snip] I do not know about this site, but I suspect that more often than not, it comes under 'social engineering'. The frequency and variation of these invites (esp. from well-known sites like linkedin) suggests that that's not what this is. Much more likely is people who've added people to their addressbooks with the mailing list address as contact info. I would have expected very amusing emails to wind up on the mailing list in that case. I'm actually genuinely interested in understanding how this works. How do the invites get through to the mailing list? Are all the sender addresses (sko...@skoost.com in this case) subscribed? Hadn't noticed the sender's address in this case. It is curious. The ones I had examined earlier had the email id of the 'victim' as the sender. Regards Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] fedora as a server
On 17 April 2010 18:37, abhishek jain abhishek.netj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends, I have a local fedora machine which i want to use as a server in my local LAN. I have connected it via wifi. I need to use the fedore machine from other machines, in other words the machine should have a active network connection as soon as it is switched on. or in other words the networkmanager should start itself as soon as the machine is booted, ie without a manual login. Currently the network manager is started only once i login in as a normal user. I need to know is it possible? i have used it previously in other flavors of linux , but cannt do this in latest Fedora. Pl. advice, -- Thanks and kind Regards, Abhishek jain ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd I use Network Manager with the option Available to all Users set. Regards Anil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] How to connect Tata Indicom Photon +
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:01 PM, ilugd-requ...@lists.linux-delhi.org wrote: I need to connect Tata Indicom Photon + internet on Centos 5.3 Dont know how to do that, reading the posts here i found i need to execute the command wvdial. [r...@localhost ~]# wvdial -- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.54.0 -- Warning: section [Dialer Defaults] does not exist in wvdial.conf. -- Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory -- Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory -- Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory With the earlier USB stick, the wvdial conf file was: [Modem0] Modem = /dev/ttyACM0 Baud = 115200 SetVolume = 0 Dial Command = ATDT Init1 = ATZ Init3 = ATM0 FlowControl = CRTSCTS [Dialer TataIndicom] Username = internet Password = internet Phone = #777 Stupid Mode = 1 Init1 = ATZ Inherits = Modem0 Regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft Project 2003 Alternative to Open Source
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:06 PM, ilugd-requ...@lists.linux-delhi.org wrote: I need to suggest an open source alternative to MS project 2003 to our Engineering team. while googling i found two such open source project which are equivalent to MS Project. 1. Open workbench , it is open source but sponsored by CA. http://www.openworkbench.org/index.php?option=com_docmanItemid=28 2. OpenProj 0.9.6 http://openproj.org/openproj If anyone has tested or used in past or using in present then please suggest which one is good to go. While not a well known project, I had found 'faces' to be very attractive and potentially useful even when it had very little GUI. The GUI is now present but different - that may have made it difficult to get accepted and the project has been dormant for a year. That is a pity because I have felt that managers with programming background should have loved this tool. Oh, well. http://faces.homeip.net/ Regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Informal meeting this Thu., 4th June, 7.30pm
Dear Mr. Gora I shall not be attending this informal meeting due to some prior engagements.Thanks for the invitation. Anil Kumar Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:26:23 +0530 From: g...@sarai.net To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: [ilugd] Informal meeting this Thu., 4th June, 7.30pm Hi, Vipul is in town, and has expressed interest in meeting up with people from ILUG-Delhi. With this in mind, we are planning on having an informal eating^Wmeeting as per the details below. This will also be a good opportunity to get together, and talk about possibilities for the LUG. Please note that ILUG-Delhi is *not* supporting expenses, and everyone will be expected to share in the bill. Please do let me know off-list if you are planning on attending, so that we have at least a rough head-count. Event: ILUG-Delhi meeting Date: Thu., June 4th, 2009 Time: 7.30pm Agenda: Informal get-together, plus dinner. Participants: All on this list. Venue: Golden Dragon, C-Block Main Market, Vasant Vihar Contact: Me (9868527992) Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ _ cricket and news. Logon to MSN Video for the latest clips http://www.exploremyway.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Fw: ILUG-D Elections on May 3 - Results
Dear Gora, Congratulations and best wishes to all the members of new managing committee. Look forward to very fruitful year ahead. Prof. (Dr.) Anil Kumar Pandey Chairman, CSI Ghaziabad Chapter Director GNIT Girls Institute of Technology Greater NOIDA --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Priya Kumar sweetcornc...@gmail.com wrote: From: Priya Kumar sweetcornc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Fw: ILUG-D Elections on May 3 - Results To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 1:22 AM i THINJK On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: dear all, best wishes and good cheer to all for their new or renewed posts. regards niyam The 5 posts were filled unanimously in the following manner: President: Kishore Bhargava - nominated by Andrew Lynn Vice President: Andrew Lynn - self-nominated Treasurer: Tirveni Yadav - nominated by Andrew Lynn General Secretary: Gora Mohanty - self-nominated Joint Secretary: Gaurav Mishra - nominated by Andrew Lynn The election was followed by a discussion among those present about ILUG-D's focus this year. Those observations will be separately posted by Gora Mohanty. regards, Jyoti Bhargava jy...@jdesignlab.com ___ Freed mailing list fr...@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/freed -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] $98 laptop from China - Industry changer?
Hi, If real, a much better option than the Intel based Netbooks! http://techvideoblog.com/ifa/98-linux-laptop-the-hivision-mininote/ HiVision makes the worlds cheapest Linux laptop at $98 using a new cheaper MIPS based processor, WiFi, 1GB flash storage, it runs Linux, has 3 USB ports, Ethernet, SDHC card reader, audio in and out, voice-chat, skype, multi-tabbed Firefox browser support and Abiword for word processing. Automatic and secure online software updates. Their current model is running a smooth and pretty snappy Linux user interface. In this video, I got to borrow a review sample of the laptop overnight, and I try to show you all the browser and other software interfaces in this extended video review of this cheap MIPS based laptop. Embedded is the way that I hope that most cheap laptops are going to be based on in the near future, Google will hopefully make a great Chrome browser for this kind of Laptop and hopefully that OLPC soon will announce that they will work to improve Embedded Linux based laptops in the upcoming XO-1.5 and XO-2 designs. Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Draft policy on Open standards for e-Gov in India -Open for Public review
Thanks for this very important mail. - Prof. Anil Pandey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The government has released a draft version of a Policy on Open standards for e-Governance. It is presently open for Public review. Please find the policy at the link below- http://egovstandards.gov.in/Policy_Open_Std_review The policy seems to have some really good points like- 5.1) Mandatory Characteristics: 5.1.1)Selected Standard should be Royalty Free for life time of the standard. 5.1.2)Selected Standard should be developed in a collaborative and consensus manner and not led by a single agency or a small closed group of interested parties 5.1.3)Selected Standard should be recursively open; They shall not use unpublished extensions However we really do need to look at it with greater detail and discuss the same. Thanks, Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change [EMAIL PROTECTED] 91-98805-95032 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] asus eeepc 4gb with linux spotted in delhi
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:56:50 +0530 From: Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] asus eeepc 4gb with linux spotted in delhi To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 dear all, i spotted a linux-based asus eeepc 4gb with a 7 screen at a gadget shop, in a mall in delhi. they allowed me to fiddle around with it. am quite impressed with the machine: what a beautiful and elegant interface to linux, even newbies to computers and the internet can use it. this netbook is easier to use than win or mac, thanks to the interface. does anyone own one yet? does it easily configure and use roaming internet access via a usb-dongle from tataindicom or reliance or other mobile net ISPs? fyi, they were selling it at rs 18,000 all inclusive, but the US retail street price is obviously less. what are the prices you've discovered here? it's wi-fi is quite impressive, good at catching weak signals, which other wi-fi devices could not catch in the same vicinity. am considering buying one for myself, for just regular netbooking. what do you say? regards niyam -- niyam bhushan I have had one for 3 months and like it very much. Primarily used for browsing and entertainment I use Tata Telecom for USB browsing - not very often. Performance was quite satisfactory in Mumbai(Mahim) but not so good in Chandigarh. Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Offtopic: Caution
Hi, Please do not register on http://moneycontrol.com/ I found myself getting spam. They have an un-subscribe option which seems to be ignored. I unsubscribed at least 6 times and no effect. Anyway, Google's spam filtering gets rid of all their mails. But I would not trust their site now for anything. Regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Candidate for Hall Of Shame?
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:05:29 +0530 From: Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] Candidate for Hall Of Shame? To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On 24-Apr-08, at 8:23 PM, Anil Seth wrote: Incidentally, I had an unfortunate irritant with HDFC as well - for credit card security code. But they were much more sympathetic though I had to use Opera with Mask as IE option to actually register the security code. all HDFC stuff works for me with firefox without any tweaking. Things keep crashing, but that is because the coding is crappy -nothing to do with firefox. For example, I was booking a bus ticket which sent me to the HDFC portal. Entered everything and clicked 'pay', then clicked confirm, then I get a form asking me to join verisign secure or something like that. There is a link saying that I can do this later and can proceed with my transaction. I click that and it says 'transaction cancelled' and times out. Second time round, i click register for the verisign thing. A form appears and i click on 'help'. A popup appears with the help message. I click 'close' on the popup and everything closes and I am returned to the bus company site. However, the transaction has gone through and I have my ticket. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ Here is the problem: On HDFC's home page,under Login to your account, Selecting NetSafe/Verified by Visa/MasterCard SecureCode and choosing to Register, pops up a window warning that Cookies are Disabled. Clicking on 'Click here' works with Opera (masked as IE) however with Firefox 2 on Fedora 8, it gives the error: Only Internet Explorer with version 5.0 or above and Firefox with Version 1.5 or above are Supported. Once I have registered, I have been able to use my credit card with the SecureCode using Firefox on Fedora. Incidentally, SecureCode should make online use of Credit Card safer. Regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Candidate for Hall Of Shame?
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:27:01 +0530 (IST) From: Shiv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I was not able to access netbanking on ABN Amro Bank's website using Firefox on Ubuntu. When I wrote to them, this is the reply I got:- Dear Mr. Jagannath, I got the same stupid response. However, the site works if you give the following url(at least till now): https://netbanking.abnamro.co.in/BANKAWAY?Action.RetUser.Init.001=YAppSignonBankId=ABNAppType=corporate This has finally motivated me into closing this account - online if possible otherwise the next time I am in Delhi. Incidentally, I had an unfortunate irritant with HDFC as well - for credit card security code. But they were much more sympathetic though I had to use Opera with Mask as IE option to actually register the security code. Opera in Mask as IE has worked for several other banks but not for Bank of India and it did not work for the ABN AMRO's home page either. I am worried about the security practices of our financial institutions. I registered for online access to a mutual fund. They asked for a password, security question, etc... and warned me to to keep it confidential. The idiots emailed my password to me! Which seems to imply that they are probably storing the password in clear text! I am waiting for their feedback to my concern. Regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to Hindi, Kasmiri, and Urdu localisation workshop at Sarai: 7-8 Mar.
Dear Gora, I am very happy to learn that you are going to have a workshop on localisation on 7th and 8th March 2008.It is certainly a step in your effort to make computing facilities to common man.I wish u very success. In the meantime I have left RKGIT to join Indraprastha engineering college as addtional director(academics and RD).We have opened a center for localisation and open technologies.We intend to do research work in the area of localisation by way of BTech and MTech projects and PHD thesis. We intend to participate in this workshop.In the meantime it will be helpful if you could send the iternery of the workshop as soon as it is ready. With reagrds thanks Regards: Prof. (Dr.)A.K. Pandey Additional Director (Academic) Inderprastha Engineering College, Ghaziabad. - Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Creative Capitalism
Niyam, Very good thoughts. At present I want to just give my comments. I think Budhism needs to be studied more carefully than it is normally. I am not a Buddist but have some idea. The Kshanikwad and why there is misary in the world is very well explained in Buddism. Redistribution of wealth does not solve problem of poverty. It was done 4 times by a king of Tibet and wealth concentrated again due to system. It needs deep study of social, political and economic understanding and deeper understanding of the forces operating in a particular society and a solution thereof. thanks Regards: Prof. (Dr.)A.K. Pandey - Original Message From: Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 February, 2008 2:54:02 AM Subject: Re: [ilugd] Creative Capitalism [snip] a) bill has no choice but to defecate his billions. he can't digest it all in this life. he can't take it with him to his grave. he can't give it to his children and devastate them. too much wealth can sometimes be a dreadful burden. b) he's taking the most measured approach yet in recorded history, to bring principles of capitalism to charity. c) gautam buddha, mahavir, and a few saints who thought hard about the inequality of wealth always found an easy way to equality: donate wealth and become poor themselves. alas, all the wealth given away through thousands of years by hundreds of wealthy people has not eradicated poverty. yet. it has only made the wealthy poor by their own choice, and helped quite a few assuage their 'money guilt' perhaps because, as mario puzo once said 'behind every fortune there is a crime.' d) bill is trying hard 'to do the right thing.' e) he has studied the problems with charity, the inefficiencies and even corruption that entwines charity, especially in poverty-stricken countries run by despots, and is trying to offer a working solution. f) the key difference in society today is that before the birth of the software industry, and the industrial revolution, the wealth an individual could generate was directly related to his or her efforts, through products and services. the industrial revolution changed this equation. the business models of intangible economies has created the huge imbalance of wealth evident with microsoft, and even warren buffet. could carry on with this topic, as it is quite fascinating and somehow we all always knew that a day will come when this wealth will have to be given away. as krishna explains in the bhagwad-gita: no person can own wealth and riches. at best, a person can only be its guard and caretaker (chowkidaar) maximum for a complete lifetime. then it has to be given away or will be snatched away, or bequeathed away. the ownership of wealth is an illusion. if you could really own it, you could take it with you beyond your grave. rather than just give it away, bill is trying to use it save a life, find solutions to real problems that cause, sustain, and even aggravate poverty. that's his new measure of wealth. a new proposed variable for measuring the wealth of the wealthy. from 'where do you want to go today?' to 'what problem of humanity do you want to try to solve today?' [stop!] regards niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive..com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Let them have laptops
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:33:10 +0530 From: vivek v [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] Let them have laptops To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Feb 1, 2008 10:17 AM, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find it at: 'Let them have laptops' The IndianExpress ePaper - Digital replica of Print Edition. I do not completely agree to this article.But I thought this would be good to discuss this as an precursor to freed.in and would be an interesting read. The point to consider here is wheter a laptop in the hands of an uneducated poor child is going to significantly alter his life. will it prevent him from dropping out of school or help him get a college degree. We are talking about OLPC serving this purpose in two ways. Children getting used to technology, especially *free* technology. Now is technology helps a person get a degree or stop him from drop is a different question. But Technology does help bring a refreshing change to the way education is delivered. It is likely to reduce the dependence on teachers given/assuming that there is a shortage of qualified teachers. Regarding the cost, it may even be a less expensive option than providing adequate number of qualified teachers, classrooms and printed text books for all children who should be in a classroom. Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fedora Mirror Selection
Hi, The following option in the repo file seems to prevent mirrorlist being updated: mirrorlist_expire=-1 Regards anil On Nov 24, 2007 1:17 PM, Anil Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Fedora 8 shortlists mirrors from China/Japan/Russia with my ip. I manually changed the mirrors to the ones in US/Australia for better performance but yum seems to update that list. Any idea how I can ensure a more appropriate selection of mirrors in the absence of any in India? Thanks regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Fedora Mirror Selection
Hi, Fedora 8 shortlists mirrors from China/Japan/Russia with my ip. I manually changed the mirrors to the ones in US/Australia for better performance but yum seems to update that list. Any idea how I can ensure a more appropriate selection of mirrors in the absence of any in India? Thanks regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Positive List of Bank Sites
Hi, I have been helping my parents with their online bank accounts as well and have concluded that very few sites are friendly to even Firefox. Rather than complaining about the ones which do not work, may be we should list the banks which work well with Firefox and Linux. I have found no problems so far with HDFC and ABN Amro online sites. I am particularly curious whether any public sector bank works well with Firefox and Linux. One PSU even responded to me that they support IE only for 'Security Reasons' :) Regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] OLPC in India
Hi, The software with OLPC is really nice and it is nice to see it being used in India: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_Chronicle Regards Anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] running internet through lan
- Original Message - From: dhiraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [ilugd] running internet through lan hi Mithun, i am from the same collage and doing the same stuff i have done the same and able to run LAN but what will be the proxy setting in browser? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Evolution 2.0
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Re: [ilugd] Re: System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent
can someone define ..following. However, if we count people who are worthy of being called administrators. Not a low paid job at all ! What is this worth ?? Is this anything different from following ??( what i am doing ..) An administrator who takes care of all WAN/ Managed Switched LAN,In house DNS, Router based Firewalls,Router based IP accounting, Internet Traffic monitoring thru MRTG, Linux- sendmail, Antispam on Sendmail and on SMTP Gateway, anti virus, Squid proxy with authentication, logging and web based reporting, CISCO VPN , Linux Intranet with search facility; Solaris - ASIC design tools with solaris, linux and windows client environment; Solaris - NIS, NFS with automount, ASIC tools on Linux servers, VSS, CVS, Web email thru squirrelmail, Majordomo lists and management by users using majorcool web interface, Linux IMAP, LDAP, back up and DR plans implementation.. not to mention the routine SA jobs.. user management.. etc.. What could be the worth of such a person with above skills after 5 years ?? Reason why i am asking is that before i switched to SA 5 years back from hardware board design.. my career graph was exponential and it just got flat since 5 years.. when i entered SA 5 years back.. i did not know what an NT system was.. and 2 years back i had no idea of linux..but still could implement above.. now do not advise me to change the company..i would have done that long back if i wanted.. and the people who i was guiding 5 years back in hardware designing have tripled their salaries in ASIC/ embeded..and are one position above my level in SA.. and now i am thinking of going back to ASIC now.. i am telling all this in support of my belief that there is much more money in technology development than in SA..at least that is what the management says.. any comments ?? On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 22:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if we count people who are worthy of being called administrators. Not a low paid job at all ! HR is this country needs to go through a compulsory administrator practice before things improve here. ;o) Unless the HR realizes the pain involved in attending a complaint, that was created because...taar nikal gayee hai, jhuka nahin jaa rahathey wont realize what an administrator goes through. Until then, job will remain low paying. -Amit. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Regards, Anil Bindal ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent
With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do than be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job. These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground ) in India. However if you are planning to settle abroad then it is a good choice.. On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 12:27, Mr. Dushyant wrote: Dear sir, I am final year student of IIT Delhi(computer science). I am very keen in persueing my career as system administrator (though I don't have much experience as system administrator).But due to my academics I am not able to pursue full time career as system administrator now still I would like to do some volunteer work so that I can have hands-on experience. Could you please consider. I have in depth theoretical knowledge of Linux, and other Unix like arch's, operating systems and computer networks,My Resume is attached with this mail. I would be highly obliged if you let me know if you can help. Thank You. Dushyant On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:52:33 +0530, Dhruv Soi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All We have urgent requirement for System Administrator with our organisation. It will be level 1 profile and person should be capable of handling complete IT infra, project planning and resourcing. Should be capable of taking initiatives and implementing new setups. Person should be excellent in Linux Environment, should have good knowledge with Windows/Solaris systems as well, capable of handling LAN/WAN, sound knowledge of IPTABLES(experience in Shorewall would add advantage), IDS, bandwidth monitoring tools, PPTP/IPSEC VPN, Squid, Sendmail, Apache/Tomcat, Samba, CVS, LDAP, Mysql, Bugzilla, CUPS, Cisco routers, perl scripting, excellent communications skills. Please send your profile to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Opening is Noida based (Morning shift), you can call me incase you like to have more details about profile. Thanks Dhruv +91-9899884990 System Administrator Momentum Technologies(SEI CMM Level 5 company), Noida www.momentum-tech.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: ATTENTION: Re: [ilugd] COMMERCIAL::System Administrator(level 1) -Urgent
Well.. What you say is also correct but i was talking in relative terms. e.g. same no. of experience in embeded could fetch double the salary.. and with due respect to our sys admin. profession.. IIT grads. would be more useful in designing more technical stuff like DSP / FPGA etc.. They would be more apted to work on Wireless/ embdeded technologies ... than doing all those kind of routine sys admin work... Working in technologies development would always be highest paid, non-redundant..and highly skilled jobs..Increments for the Sys admin would always be lower as compared to development engineers... it is market economics .. demand and supply type.. Like in Embeded and in ASIC.. it is not unusual to get 5+ lacs above after 3 years of experience.. and it would continue to double every 3-4 years or so.. BTW I am curious to know as to what is the average salary for Indian sys admins in say any MNC for following no. of year's experience.. ( assume that guy has required skills ) 1-2 yrs 3-5 yrs 6-8 yrs 10 yrs 10+ yrs Is there any salary survey for Indian IT guys.. ? I consider big money as 10-12 lacs p.a. for a 8-9 years experience engineering graduate..which is possible these days in Technology development areas.. On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 12:49, Kapil Sethi wrote: Hi Anil, anil bindal wrote: With IIT degree in Com. Science, there could be better things to do than be in Sys Admin. It is a thankless , low paid job. These days one does not need a technical degree to be in sys admin.. and there are abundant of sys admin ( non-technical back ground ) in India. However if you are planning to settle abroad then it is a good choice.. Systems admin is no way a low paid job. Thankless yes, but a sysadmin is backbone of IT deptt of any company. As a human tendency people care more about their face or hands than their backbone, so nothing unusual in that. A good sysadmin requires good understanding of OS internal, networking protocols and is expected to posses good programming skills. BY all means good techical brains are required in the field of systems admin, and yes there is big money here also. Kapil Sethi Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Network Inventory
I have tried many tools including LanDesk, Trackbird many more and suggested ones. Unfortunately they offer very little for linux inventory. Any more suggestions for finding the complete hardware inventory for Linux/Netware (networked/ standalone) PCs ? thanks in advance. On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:41, Amit Sharma wrote: I am searching for a Network inventory tool which will give me the hardware and software inventory for all networked PCs - all platforms - Sun Sparc, X86 with multiple OSes like Linux, MS windows, NT, Solaris, Netware. Needless to say the intention is to do it free of cost http://ocsinventory.sourceforge.net/en/index.php Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Network Inventory
Dear all, I am searching for a Network inventory tool which will give me the hardware and software inventory for all networked PCs - all platforms - Sun Sparc, X86 with multiple OSes like Linux, MS windows, NT, Solaris, Netware. Needless to say the intention is to do it free of cost Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: Senior Systems Engineer (3+ years)
Raju, How can i get such a formatted original message in reply with the sender's name like flwng..what client you use ? Uma Dear sir, I donot have 3+ years of experience . But i know Uma all the things u require . I m an engineering graduate in What I require is someone who (a) can spell and (b) knows the Question Is it possible in Evolution or any other Linux Client ?? Very impressive and informative.. rgds anil On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 12:25, Raj Mathur wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uma == uma sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uma Dear sir, I donot have 3+ years of experience . But i know Uma all the things u require . I m an engineering graduate in What I require is someone who (a) can spell and (b) knows the Question of Life, the Universe and Everything (the one whose answer is 42). I'm glad you believe that you know all these things, though I have serious doubts about (a). Maybe knowing the Question entitles you to find new and innovative ways of breaking the English language. Uma I.T. (4 years degree course). Sir I have experience of six Uma months only. I also have the knowledge of core java. I m Uma sendin u mi resume. Damn, I didn't get your resume. Should be interesting -- just to satisfy my curiousity, how long have you known the Question anyway? Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFBOWbEyWjQ78xo0X8RAovJAJ46+mtVC0A+sI/Ga8Gbl9mdbd9PFgCdG5Ce 9IXSFReGHHH8QpcAFbqYDmY= =/ajc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Need two quick solutions
Dear all, Pl. let me know if there are any answers to our problem.. rgds On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 13:27, anil bindal wrote: Dear all, 1) Is it possible to restrict a user to send out the external email but receive all emails ?? How ?? 2) Is it possible to restrict user to send out the attachments of any size ? Environment is RH 7.3 / sendmail-8.11.6-27.73 Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Need two quick solutions
I wish i could implement suggestions.. Problem is on the user's PC , there are many profiles ( for different emails boxes ) open. All profiles use the same SMTP server . So we need to restrict only one profile from sending the external emails..( even this profile should be able to send the email to local domain users ) Secondly, we want to restrict attachment size only for a particular user. rgds On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 15:32, Amit Sharma wrote: --- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, 1) Is it possible to restrict a user to send out the external email but receive all emails ?? How ?? 2) Is it possible to restrict user to send out the attachments of any size ? Environment is RH 7.3 / sendmail-8.11.6-27.73 Regards, [SNIP] #1 /etc/mail/access ip.address.of.user DENY (ip of the user and deny) #2 yes u can , in sendmail.cf lookout for # maximum message size O MaxMessageSize=100 and change accordingly. amit __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Need two quick solutions
Dhruv, Is it same as implementing quota on /home and then using procmail to keep all emails in /home dirs instead of /var/spool/mail ? Anyone used MIMEDefang to implement attachment size restrictions for outgoing emails ?? rgds An Thu, 2004-09-02 at 16:09, Dhruv Soi wrote: Amit, Can outgoing message size be restricted on the basis of User IDs? For incoming mails i do use Procmail to do so, but for outgoing mails i am still searching some solution. Thanks Dhruv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] hi.org]On Behalf Of Amit Sharma Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] Need two quick solutions --- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, 1) Is it possible to restrict a user to send out the external email but receive all emails ?? How ?? 2) Is it possible to restrict user to send out the attachments of any size ? Environment is RH 7.3 / sendmail-8.11.6-27.73 Regards, [SNIP] #1 /etc/mail/access ip.address.of.user DENY (ip of the user and deny) #2 yes u can , in sendmail.cf lookout for # maximum message size O MaxMessageSize=100 and change accordingly. amit __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Is it possible to create an email account on sendmail not readable by root/SA ??
Well.. We just wanted to have one global suggestion account for which even SA did not have access..it was not any trust issue..Employees may not give suggestions in case they fear that the email may be available to SA.. they want 1-1 trust with CEO..that was the idea.. We opted for 3rd party email account.. rgds On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 13:11, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Friday 20 Aug 2004 10:29 am, anil bindal wrote: Pl. advise.. Is it possible to have an email account in sendmail on RH which even SA /root can not access ? I am serious.. my CEO wants it.. If you dont have access, you cant manage it. If the CEO doesnt trust his people, ask him to take the mail service from a third party, and let him download mails directly from it. - Sandip Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies This mail was scanned for any virus infection at DCM Technologies SMTP Gateway Server.___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Problem in opening password protected files in OO
Dear all, Is there a way to open password protected MS word files in Open Office 1.0 / 1.1 on Linux ?? Regards, Anil Bindal DCM Technologies This mail was scanned for any virus infection at DCM Technologies SMTP Gateway Server.___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Is it possible to create an email account on sendmail not readable by root/SA ??
Pl. advise.. Is it possible to have an email account in sendmail on RH which even SA /root can not access ? I am serious.. my CEO wants it.. Regards, anil This mail was scanned for any virus infection at DCM Technologies SMTP Gateway Server.___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] reverse DNS
Hi, What needs to be added in sendmail.mc to reject non resolvable ( PTR does not exist ) hosts ? rgds -- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcm technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Sendmail Question
Thanks. Headers of SPAM emails show that emails are at times delivered directly to our email server MX record for Email server is must to act as back up in case of SMTP gateway failure. Solution being used is from Symantec. regards anil On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 14:28, Anand Kapoor wrote: Anil, I can think of only two scenarios ! One you anti SPAM/anti Virus gateway is not blocking certain mails. If you are certain that that is not the case, then check the MX records for your domain. It is possible that you have listed you mail server there as well (maybe on a lower priority though.. ) which would result in mails being delivered directly to your mail server. Anand P.S: BTW out of curiousity what ANTI SPAM / Anti Virus solution ? On 05 Aug 2004 14:21:41 +0530, anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Currently we are receiving the external emails on an SMTP Anti Virus and Anti SPAM gateway server which relays the emails to mail server after scanning. Problem is that we still get the SPAM directly on our email server. How come the SPAM emails are not delivered to Gateway first but directly to our email server. How can we avoid this ? regards anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- Thanks and Regards, Anil Bindal Disclaimer : The information contained in this email is confidential, may be legally privileged, proprietary to DCM Technologies and intended solely for the addressee. In case you are not the intended recipient, please intimate the sender and immediately delete the email from your system. Any disclosure, copying or distribution thereof without our authority is prohibited and may be unlawful. DCM Technologies makes no warranty as to the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this message and hereby expressly excludes all liability of any kind whatsoever arising out of any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance of this message. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Sendmail Question
Our back end MX is a sendmail server which has relay from MX disabled.
dnl FEATURE(relay_based_on_MX)dnl
Also RBL has been implemented..
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `bl.spamcop.net', `450 Mail from spam source
$`'{client_addr} refused - see http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml;')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org', `450 Mail from spam source
$`'{client_addr} refused - see http://www.spamhaus.org;')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `dnsbl.sorbs.net', `450 Mail from spam source
$`'{client_addr} refused - see http://dnsbl.sorbs.net;')
BUT
Still my backup email server ( sendmail server ) does not block the SPAM
IPs listed in above RBLs..( while Gateway does !! )
I am clue less..
what could be the problem ??
regards
anil
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 16:21, Varun Varma wrote:
anil bindal wrote:
Thanks.
Headers of SPAM emails show that emails are at times delivered directly
to our email server
MX record for Email server is must to act as back up in case of SMTP
gateway failure.
Solution being used is from Symantec.
snip
Sending mails directly to the backup MXs, instead of the primary one, is
a very popular way amongst spammers to avoid spam detection. The gist is
that they know that this is a very common setup - primary MX has spam
filtering and the backup MXs don't and, frequently, the primary MX
accepts mails from the backup MXs blindly, i.e. they trust the backup
MXs and don't filter mails from the backup MXs. Also, backup MXs
generally don't check for the existence of user accounts [unless you
have call forwards enabled] or quota limitations, so they accept any/all
mails for a domain blindly.
Spammers exploit this setup and send mails directly to the backup MXs.
Solution: Run spam/anti-virus filtering on all publically exposed MXs.
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Re: [ilugd] Re: [OT]Re: (fwd) am being black-holed - help
which top 5 rbls are most effective as of now ? rgds anil On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 09:58, Jasmeet wrote: Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 29 Jul 2004 9:06 am, Jasmeet wrote: I think the only drawback of Direct-to-mx mailing is that reverse DNS [..] to pour in. - Sandip I understand the concept of spamming via direct to mx mailing, but what i wanted to point out was that for an end user, you fail (using ISP OR any III party SMTP server) in case the opposite domain runs a reverse DNS on you. My point wasn't related to the original post, I was just trying to figure out the drawbacks of using some other SMTP server other than justifiably your own (the one indicated by your MX record). Yeah, i think it was everybody's dream that each SMTP server be able to relay for everybody, but then we had spam. And it would be a better idea to stick to your own (MX) servers for relaying your mail. If this were strictly followed along with reverse DNS lookup, there'd be less spamming (not perfecty zero though). This, along with what you mentioned about the SMTP server being able to detect bulk mailings, we could achieve good sterilisation. Though this may not always be possible, logistics or otherwise, then, as Mary pointed out in another thread (or was it this thread), the use of spf records. They would surely be a good step in fighting spam. Also, i feel every self respecting SMTP server should run a reverse DNS and make use of RBL lists till there is definitive way to fight spam. -js ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcm technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Email Delays
Dear all, Is there a way where i can trace ( other than the mail header ) how the email has travelled from its source o destination ( hops etc.. ) Problem is oly from one domain, we get the email 1.5 hrs later. Source email logs show that it leaves a x time and our email logs show that it hits us at 1.5+ x hrs.. Very mind puzzling.. any clues ?? regards, -- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcm technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Ximian Evolution : cursor not visible when composing emails
Out of blue it has come back.. Ev 1.2 rgds anil On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 11:18, jayant M wrote: Which version of evo are you using ..i am having 1.4 and 1.5 but am not able to find it(cursor) :( Its working properly -jayant --- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, How do i get the cursor back in compose window in message body ? cursor highlights in to,cc etc.. but not in message body.. rgds -- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcm technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcm technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Ximian Evolution : cursor not visible when composing emails
Hi all, How do i get the cursor back in compose window in message body ? cursor highlights in to,cc etc.. but not in message body.. rgds -- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcm technologies ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Outgoing emails get stuck in Outlook with Sendmail Server
Dear all, When Internet is down, Out Outlook Clients on MS windows are not able to send out the emails ( not even internal ). While on Linux machines everything works. Outbound emails get stuck in outbox and give error - transport provider not available Just wanted to know if we only face this problem or we are missing something.. regards anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Sendmail/PHP upgrade doubt
Hi all, We have a RH 7.3 server with sendmail 8.11.6 I would like to upgrade sendmail to 8.12.10 keeping all other packages same.. Is it possible ?? i want to use only the rpm for sendmail 8.12.10 If i browse security and errata pages for RH, i find that for RH 7.3 the version is only 8.11.6-27.73..so the doubt... regards anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Email has become very slow
Hi all, Our Outgoing Email SMTP server has become very slow. No problems with incoming.. While doing telnet emailserver 25, it takes more than 2 minutes to get response.. What could be wrong ?? -- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Email has become very slow
1) It is our internal server with internal Primary DNS server 2) Host lookup is OK.. Email is working but it is very slow.. Why should server take so much time to respond to a telnet command on SMTP port ?? rgds anil On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 18:32, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Monday 12 July 2004 5:59 pm, anil bindal wrote: Our Outgoing Email SMTP server has become very slow. No problems with incoming.. While doing telnet emailserver 25, it takes more than 2 minutes to get response.. Is that your ISP's mail server or your own? If it is your own mailserver, do you have DNS running for the machines in your internal lan which send mails through this mail server? Do you have host lookups turned on for your mail server? - Sandip -- Thanks and Regards, Anil Bindal Disclaimer : The information contained in this email is confidential, may be legally privileged, proprietary to DCM Technologies and intended solely for the addressee. In case you are not the intended recipient, please intimate the sender and immediately delete the email from your system. Any disclosure, copying or distribution thereof without our authority is prohibited and may be unlawful. DCM Technologies makes no warranty as to the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this message and hereby expressly excludes all liability of any kind whatsoever arising out of any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance of this message. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Email has become very slow
rDNS is working Sir. rgds On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 23:47, vivek wrote: On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:05 +0530, anil bindal wrote: 1) It is our internal server with internal Primary DNS server 2) Host lookup is OK.. Email is working but it is very slow.. Why should server take so much time to respond to a telnet command on SMTP port ?? because reverse lookup is not working? $ host your.internal.smtp.com may give yu the address of the machine, but have yu tried vice versa? $ host x.x.x.x where x.x.x.x is the smtp server's ip address also, after the connection is established, how is the speed? is it okay? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Need Immd help
Dear all, In my Ximian Evolution 1.2 on RH 7.3 i am no more able to see my IMAP inbox and other folders. I had configured Evolution for two IMAP mailboxes on two different servers. Everything was working fine.. till this morning..when while trying to send email to many people.. Evolution gave an NDR saying too long a header and then asked Evolution to be closed. I closed Evolution and opened again.. now i am not able to see any IMAP folder.. not even able to go to my Local folders.. There ia message in status bar... Reconnecting to ( 2nd ) IMAP server... while mailog in both the IMAP servers are something like this.. Command stream end of file, while reading line user=??? Command stream end of file, while reading line user bindal.. Machine has been rebooted with no status change.. pl. help.. Luckily my Web mail is working..so is it the Evoultion client that is corrupted.. what are the ways to fix Evolution ?? Thanks and Regards Anil Bindal ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Apache SSL https unable to connect
Dear all, I am facing some problems in connecting to Squirrelmail web interface thru https. I am getting error as CErtificate could not be verified but i have checked the key and crt and both have the same records for Modulus and Public Exponent.. ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssl]# openssl x509 -noout -modulus -in dcmtech.crt | openssl md5 713a441fba839490df3778a339d7dfef [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssl]# openssl rsa -noout -modulus -in dcmtech.key | openssl md5 read RSA key 713a441fba839490df3778a339d7dfef ** so where could be the problem.. rgds anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Virtual Domain Email Server
Dear all, We r using sendmail-8.11.6-15 ( on RH 7.3 ) for hosting a domain server a.co.in and we would like to receive emails for b.com ( with reply /forward facility from b.com ) We have updated our DNS records ( MX ) etc.. pointing b.com to our email server hosting a.co.in Now just to be sure, request information from list on how to implement the virtual domain on my existing email server ? rgds anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Video Conferencing facility query.. sorry for being off topic..
Dear all, We need to have 1 hr. VC with a USA customer on 29th June ( Tmrrw ). Does any one know of a vendor where we can do the VC..( Delhi and Gurgaon ) Sort of urgent.. pl. reply back ASAP. Regards anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Web Interface on sendmail
Thanks. We have implemented SM and it is working fine for http:// So far we have not opened it to Internet and it is blocked. 1) Will https:// access on Internet be enough security to open up web mail access to mobile users What are the security considerations for opening up the SM webmail to Public Internet and How do we implement it ?? Regards anil On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 14:40, Amit Sharma wrote: use squirrelmail. amit - Original Message - From: anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 June, 2004 02:37 PM Subject: [ilugd] Web Interface on sendmail Hi all, Like Lotes Domino or MS Exchange Email Server, How can i implement web email interface on sendmail server on RH 7.3 ?? Idea is that users on the move are able to access/reply to emails thru a web browser. Thanks in advance. rgds anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Web Interface on sendmail
Hi all, Like Lotes Domino or MS Exchange Email Server, How can i implement web email interface on sendmail server on RH 7.3 ?? Idea is that users on the move are able to access/reply to emails thru a web browser. Thanks in advance. rgds anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] ISP in CP area ?
Thanks for replies.I talked to W3C, they do not have POP in Kanchenjunga and are asking for Rs. 26 K for small dish antenna set up.. Could you supply me the contact details for Karrier ?? Did not find on Web... Also how is CP Dot's service ? regards anil On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 12:02, Atul Aggarwal wrote: There is a company called W3C in Arunachal Building, they are the one who are providing bandwidth to CP Dot Net and Karrier who are providing internet connections to CP customer. U can directly try and contact W3C. 215 Arunachal Building 19, Barakhamba Road 23356878 On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:20:19 -0500, khurshid iqbal wrote no problem with touchtel as one khurshid iqbal - Original Message - From: anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 15 Jun 2004 12:55:39 +0530 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] ISP in CP area ? Dear all, One of our office in Kanchanjunga , CP requires two independent Internet connectivity connections on two seperate PCs. While there are lots of vendors like Hotwire, CP Dot com etc.. Does any member have any experiences / recommendations on any ISP in CP area ?? Thanks in advance regards anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- W3C.COM WebMail - The Internet made easy (www.w3c.com) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] ISP in CP area ?
Dear all, One of our office in Kanchanjunga , CP requires two independent Internet connectivity connections on two seperate PCs. While there are lots of vendors like Hotwire, CP Dot com etc.. Does any member have any experiences / recommendations on any ISP in CP area ?? Thanks in advance regards anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] ftp through proxy
Install frox on squid server and use passive ftp client. rgds On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 11:00, anshul makkar wrote: I am using smart ftp. Even though I am using passive ftp still the problem persists. In smart ftp setup I use http proxy tunnel as other types of proxy don't work. even i am not able to make out whether this is a problem of squid server or firewall setting. Please help --- Akshay Lamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use passive FTP from the ftp client. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of anshul makkar Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] ftp through proxy i have configured proxy server through the use of squid. now when connect windows machine to do a ftp request to an outside domain through proxy , it gives an error opening port 8196 http/1.0 403 forbidden If i enable this port 8196, then next time it gives some other port . what's the problem ? and how to solve it? __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Linux Based Workflow System
Hi all, We are considering building a Workflow system in our company based on Linux, preferably free of cost. Idea is to have a paperless office ( to extent possible ) based on Linux. Could List share their comments, suggestions, experiences, possible solutions ? thanks in advance. regards anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] SAMBA server config... best tool ??
Hi, We have lots of non-technical employees who need to create files/directory shares on their red hat linux machines. Appreciate help on following a) Apart from SAMBA, is there any other alternative which is easy to use and user friendly ? b) What do generally list admins recommend and use on this list for easy sharing ( non-command line - pref. GUI ) of files/dir on Linux PC to other LAN Linux/solaris/windows PCs.. rgds anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Linux FTP Proxy server
Thanks. Kindly forward the rules. regards anil On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 19:50, anshul makkar wrote: ftp is not done through proxy server. proxy server has no role in ftp transfers. use ipforwarding and ipmasquerading so as to let ftp requests go through your proxy. if u don't have iptabbles rule , let me know i will forward it to u. i also faced similar problem previously. vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 11:09 +0530, anil bindal wrote: Hi all, Currently we are using Squid and it does not allow FTP clients to connect through. Could some one suggest Linux RH 7.3 based HTTP/FTP Proxy server which would allow the FTP clients like gftp/cuteFTP to upload/download data through it. frox - http://frox.sourceforge.net/ -- \|||/ (o o) ooO-(_)-Ooo- | vivek | GPG Key: | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://exain.net/vike | || | Registered Linux User: #305493 | ( _ ) _| | | |_ (___| |___) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Linux FTP Proxy server
Hi all, Currently we are using Squid and it does not allow FTP clients to connect through. Could some one suggest Linux RH 7.3 based HTTP/FTP Proxy server which would allow the FTP clients like gftp/cuteFTP to upload/download data through it. Thanks in advance. anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Sendmail multiple recipients delivery failure
Hi all, Sendmail does not deliver the email to any of the local recipients if any of the ID is non-deliverable. But it does deliver to local recipient if other IDs are non-local What is the fix to this bizarre behavior ?? We would like sendmail to deliver the email to deliverable local recipients even if one Email ID typed is wrong. At the moment the message just hangs in the outbox.. t/r anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Sendmail multiple recipients delivery failure
I tried even using pine from root account on email server. BTW, it is happening with Evolution 1.2 on my RH 7.3 linux system. regards anil On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 17:49, V Shekhar wrote: what is the user-agent you are using..? Warm Regards. - V SHEKHAR - Tel : 0 98852 84071 - Original Message - From: anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:18 pm Subject: [ilugd] Sendmail multiple recipients delivery failure Hi all, Sendmail does not deliver the email to any of the local recipients if any of the ID is non-deliverable. But it does deliver to local recipient if other IDs are non-local What is the fix to this bizarre behavior ?? We would like sendmail to deliver the email to deliverable local recipients even if one Email ID typed is wrong. At the moment the message just hangs in the outbox.. t/r anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Virus scanned by ERNET-NOC ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Sendmail multiple recipients delivery failure
Hello Amit, It did not help. Actually what we want is that if for any reason some types a wrong local email ID along with other valid email IDs, mail should be delivered to valid IDs and there should be a non-delivery POP up for invalid ID. This is how it used to happen in Exchange server.. I guess Sandip Bhattacharya also faced similar problem but am not sure if the problem was solved.. regards anil On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 18:06, Amit Sharma wrote: open /etc/mail/virtusertable put an entry as @yourdomain.com tabtab [EMAIL PROTECTED] where abc is valid account on your server. restart sendmail. confirm please. amit [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- anil bindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Sendmail does not deliver the email to any of the local recipients if any of the ID is non-deliverable. But it does deliver to local recipient if other IDs are non-local What is the fix to this bizarre behavior ?? We would like sendmail to deliver the email to deliverable local recipients even if one Email ID typed is wrong. At the moment the message just hangs in the outbox.. t/r anil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering
Hi Manoj R U Intrested in learning or require a machine. Thanks Regards Sukhdev Singh Seera Cogitans. M: +91 9811154380 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:58 PM Subject: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering Hi all, Need help on linux clustering Any docs discussing how to setup and some basics will be appreciable Thanks Manoj Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Which is better : Sendmail/ Qmail/ Postfix
Hi Amit If you are looking for the high end mail servers and more functionality and reliability. Go for post fix Thanks Regards Sukhdev Singh Seera Cogitans. M: +91 9811154380 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Amit Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:23 PM Subject: [ilugd] Which is better : Sendmail/ Qmail/ Postfix please help me decide which MTA should i install for my mails. Which is better : Sendmail/ Qmail/ Postfix? can we have some kind of polling for this as well as few more ques like this, like the forum thing ;) amit __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] clustered server configuration (linux)
Hi Mukesh You called me regarding the clusture problem but I was busy driving at that time. I was expecting your call after two hours yesterday. If you still have any query you can call me. Thanks Regards Sukhdev Singh Seera Cogitans. M: +91 9811154380 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mukesh Verma , Gurgaon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: [ilugd] clustered server configuration (linux) Dear All, Can anybody, pls let me know where I can get the transaction processing performance statistics in a clustered linux server configuration? The statistics required are such that performance data is gathered based the timeline when a new box is added. I've some info from www.ameinfo.com But this data is not sufficient for a clustered unit where the system has more than 8 boxes supporting the application. The application can be assumed to be supported by Oracle at backend. Regds, Mukesh ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
Hi Manoj Do you have any firewall installed at your network. And also check the DNS entries. Thanks Regards Sukhdev Singh Seera Cogitans. M: +91 9811154380 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:38 PM Subject: [ilugd] sendmail problem :( Hi All, I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25 Also the netstat shows like this tcp0 0 *:smtp *:* LISTEN but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it says connecting to abc.com via esmtp and then says no route to host even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help me in this regard Thanks manoj Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] cyberoam on linux
Hi PG Cyber oam is not a freeware exactly It is a professional software Copy Rights with 24 Online.com This company provides such softwares for corporates and cable ISP's so if you are impressed by the product quality you have to pay them rs 40,000 for installation and Rs 75,000 appx for support. If you are looking for such software you can mail me your requirements and we can give you much cheaper option. Thanks Regards Sukhdev Singh Seera Cogitans. M: +91 9811154380 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: pg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:37 PM Subject: [ilugd] cyberoam on linux hello everypne, can anyone please tell me is there a redhat linux 9.0 compatible version of cyberoam client (the employee internet usage manager)? i tried to get it from the net , but the versions that i got are not working, can anyone pls send in the details. ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] gaim/yahoo
I am also encountering same problem. Thanks Regards Sukhdev Singh Seera Cogitans. M: +91 9811154380 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [ilugd] gaim/yahoo -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:23:26 -0800 (PST) Sharninder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just wanted to know if anyone is using gaim (v 0.75) to connect to the yahoo network these days. I am using the latest version and can't connect. How are the other linuxers on the list connecting to yahoo these days. Sharninder same problem here.. - -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf RESEARCHUT (www.researchut.com) Happy GNU/Linux user since 1998 - -- If guns are outlawed, how will we shoot the liberals? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAL1FK4Rhi6gTxMLwRAhyGAKC17Y04NLO5P5ISFHcdqjCeVlNs5gCgr4cy tCSUxTFMnMbxkN36T2Svx+0= =qzJi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
