Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

[Sharon S]

Hi, as I said in my message it was Jaws 2018 but I'm not sure on the build
version. It was whatever was the last build before the latest update. I've
been using the laptop allot on battery lately with no issues so hopefully it
is fixed. The annoying thing was that this is a brand new laptop so it
shouldn't be having any major issues.

Well I'm crossing my fingers that the issue is now solved.
>From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Valiant8086
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

Hi.


Do you know exactly which version of JAWS you were running? It might be
possible that you were running the one that had a nice bug where it always
used 100 percent of which ever cpu thread it was executing on all of the
time. It was 17 point something, if you know what it was we can maybe figure
out if that was the one. In any case, if that's what was going on, I think
it might be possible that your battery wasn't providing enough power to
execute that fast and the board undervoltaged. 
this usually should happen when the battery is very low, and never on a
fairly new battery a year or newer, but older batteries that may not be
putting out as many volts as they should could be not providing enough watts
for the system to extend power to all components when the cpu wants more
than a certain amount.


You probably would know your computer now runs cooler than it used to, it
should be very obvious if that's a possible explanation.


To clerify something, it actually turns off, just pressing power starts 
it in the boot up process?


Another possibility could be that you put the laptop on your lap in a 
certain way or you fidget (no offense intended here) in some way that's 
exposing a short somewhere that your brother didn't duplicate. My Lenovo 
yoga 2 pro used to take out my WiFi network not just for itself, but for 
everybody, if I picked it up by squeezing the right edge in one hand. I 
had to get used to holding it with two hands or laying it across an arm 
or what ever. So saying, that actually isn't out of the realm of 
possibility.


To answer your last question, no, this has never happened to me.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/12/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon S wrote:
> Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been
> having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning
> when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is
> always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this
was
> happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening.
> Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother
> played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't
shut
> down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it
had
> turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I
> couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on
my
> Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm
> hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been
> happening? Has it happened to anyone else?
>
>   
>
> Thanks.
>
>  From Shaz.
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


Do you know exactly which version of JAWS you were running? It might be 
possible that you were running the one that had a nice bug where it 
always used 100 percent of which ever cpu thread it was executing on all 
of the time. It was 17 point something, if you know what it was we can 
maybe figure out if that was the one. In any case, if that's what was 
going on, I think it might be possible that your battery wasn't 
providing enough power to execute that fast and the board undervoltaged. 
this usually should happen when the battery is very low, and never on a 
fairly new battery a year or newer, but older batteries that may not be 
putting out as many volts as they should could be not providing enough 
watts for the system to extend power to all components when the cpu 
wants more than a certain amount.



You probably would know your computer now runs cooler than it used to, 
it should be very obvious if that's a possible explanation.



To clerify something, it actually turns off, just pressing power starts 
it in the boot up process?



Another possibility could be that you put the laptop on your lap in a 
certain way or you fidget (no offense intended here) in some way that's 
exposing a short somewhere that your brother didn't duplicate. My Lenovo 
yoga 2 pro used to take out my WiFi network not just for itself, but for 
everybody, if I picked it up by squeezing the right edge in one hand. I 
had to get used to holding it with two hands or laying it across an arm 
or what ever. So saying, that actually isn't out of the realm of 
possibility.



To answer your last question, no, this has never happened to me.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 6/12/2018 11:53 AM, Sharon S wrote:

Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been
having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning
when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is
always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this was
happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening.
Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother
played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't shut
down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it had
turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I
couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on my
Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm
hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been
happening? Has it happened to anyone else?

  


Thanks.

 From Shaz.

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[JAWS-Users] Laptop crashing

[Sharon S]

Hi all, I have a acer laptop running windows 10 and Jaws 2018. I have been
having an issue where my computer will turn completely off with no warning
when running on battery. When I restart the laptop the battery level is
always pretty high so it isn't a battery issue. I took note of when this was
happening so my brother could look at the logs and see what is happening.
Well as far as he could see there was no reason for it. Then my brother
played with my laptop for awhile without Jaws on and the laptop didn't shut
down. He gave it back to me and I turned Jaws on and one minute later it had
turned off. So this led us to think it was something to do with Jaws but I
couldn't see why that was causing this. I had an upgrade I hadn't done on my
Jaws so I did that and I haven't had the laptop shut down on me since. I'm
hoping it is totally fixed but does anyone know why this would have been
happening? Has it happened to anyone else?

 

Thanks.

>From Shaz.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystroke Question

[Mike B.]

Hi John,

Thank you very much.s
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: John Skyner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystroke Question


Hi Mike

Try fn key and cursor up or down.

Cheers

John

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 23 October 2017 21:23
To: Jaws-Users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystroke Question

Hi All,

What are the laptop equivalent keystrokes for, Page Up & Page Down, for a
laptop that doesn't have these keys?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystrokes

[Mike B.]

Hi Anders,

Thank you very much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Anders Ternow
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystrokes


On my Asus laptop it is FN-key plus up-arrow/down-arrow...

Anders

-Ursprungligt meddelande- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 9:19 PM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystrokes

Hi All,

What are the laptop equivalent keystrokes for Page up & Page down?  Thanks
much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystrokes

[Anders Ternow]

On my Asus laptop it is FN-key plus up-arrow/down-arrow...

Anders

-Ursprungligt meddelande- 
From: Mike B. 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 9:19 PM 
To: Jaws-Users 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystrokes 


Hi All,

What are the laptop equivalent keystrokes for Page up & Page down?  Thanks 
much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystroke Question

[John Skyner]

Hi Mike

Try fn key and cursor up or down.

Cheers

John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 23 October 2017 21:23
To: Jaws-Users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystroke Question

Hi All,

What are the laptop equivalent keystrokes for, Page Up & Page Down, for a
laptop that doesn't have these keys?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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[JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystrokes

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

What are the laptop equivalent keystrokes for Page up & Page down?  Thanks 
much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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[JAWS-Users] Laptop Keystroke Question

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

What are the laptop equivalent keystrokes for, Page Up & Page Down, for a 
laptop that doesn't have these keys?  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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[JAWS-Users] Laptop Keyboard

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Found this thanks and it does work as I would have expected e.g. inser plus : 
doubles up as number pad functions.
I Don't think this is going to be as tricky as I first thought to get used to.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[LeDon]

What is boot camp?

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Behalf Of Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

hello,
the best windos 10 laptop is a MacBook Pro with Bootcamp. all you are
getting is windows, and drivers for mac hardware.  I use bootcamp a lot, and
have no issues.
Daniel


On 6/14/17, Tammy Freitag <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one 
> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of 
> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my 
> questions; 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the 
> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before 
> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs 
> taking up space.
>
> These will do for a start.
> Thanks for your input!
>
>
> --
> Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
> Tammy
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[wayne smith]

Where did you get those machines at those prices?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hi all,
I have two laptops. I own an Asus laptop, and it has 8 GB of ram, Bluetooth,
it is very fast, and I bought it for $250.00. My other laptop is an HP
Stream 11, and I can hold it in one hand. It only costs $179.00. It has a
SSD drive, and I use my small External Drive for more space. I love them
both, but I would go for the Asus, because it is so powerful for the price.
I have used it a lot for four years, and it still runs like a top. It
origionally came with Windows 8.1, and I have kept up to date with the
Creators update of win10 now on it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own
propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may
not have drivers for the model you have.
now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but
download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.

-Original Message-
From: Audiobookfan
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2 Windows
laptops for the price of a macBook.

I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer Intel
over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I really,
really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in an external
1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.

I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth, so
that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with my
laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.

As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of Windows
built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows Refresh or
something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and does a
complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows apps. All
other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all bloatware. I think
this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they launched Windows. I know
if I were buying a new computer, the first thing I'd do is bring it home and
run a Windows Refresh, giving me a nice clean Windows to begin setting up.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very
satisfied. 
> I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard 
> most of the time.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
> small things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
>> Tammy:
>>
>> As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. 
>> Myself, however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric 
>> keypad (I am assuming that there is a choice between having one, and 
>> not having one). My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do 
>> some of the JAWS keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn 
>> the different keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my 
>> preference. I have always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with
others. Hope this helps.
>> Jerry
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Tammy Freitag
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't 
>> one perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and 
>> experiences of others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here 
>> are my questions; 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
>> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
>> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the 
>> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before 
>> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible 
>> programs taking up space.
>>
>> These will do for a start.
>> Thanks for your input!
>

Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

I am also going to buy a laptop, that is Lenovo Thinkpad x270. This is
a small laptop of 12.5 inches screen size, and have pretty good
spects. I am not aware of its compatibility with jaws though. But I am
a jaws user and hope jaws will work on it since it has windows 10.

On 6/15/17, David Moore <jesusloves1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have two laptops. I own an Asus laptop, and it has 8 GB of ram, Bluetooth,
> it is very fast, and I bought it for $250.00. My other laptop is an HP
> Stream 11, and I can hold it in one hand. It only costs $179.00. It has a
> SSD drive, and I use my small External Drive for more space. I love them
> both, but I would go for the Asus, because it is so powerful for the price.
> I have used it a lot for four years, and it still runs like a top. It
> origionally came with Windows 8.1, and I have kept up to date with the
> Creators update of win10 now on it.
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: net bat66
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:35 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>
> the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own
> propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may
> not
> have drivers for the model you have.
> now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but
> download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Audiobookfan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>
> I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
> *strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
> laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2
> Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.
>
> I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer
> Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I
> really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in
> an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.
>
> I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
> laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth,
> so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with
> my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.
>
> As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
> version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of
> Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows
> Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and
> does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows
> apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all
> bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they
> launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first
> thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a
> nice clean Windows to begin setting up.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
>> I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very
>> satisfied.
>> I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard most
>> of
>> the time.
>>
>>
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
>>
>> things, it does not exist at all.
>>
>> On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
>>> Tammy:
>>>
>>> As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself,
>>> however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am
>>>
>>> assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one).
>>> My
>>> reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys
>>> with
>>> the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without
>>>
>>> one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so
>>> I
>>> cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list
>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
>>> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences 

Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I have two laptops. I own an Asus laptop, and it has 8 GB of ram, Bluetooth, it 
is very fast, and I bought it for $250.00. My other laptop is an HP Stream 11, 
and I can hold it in one hand. It only costs $179.00. It has a SSD drive, and I 
use my small External Drive for more space. I love them both, but I would go 
for the Asus, because it is so powerful for the price. I have used it a lot for 
four years, and it still runs like a top. It origionally came with Windows 8.1, 
and I have kept up to date with the Creators update of win10 now on it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own 
propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may not 
have drivers for the model you have.
now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but 
download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.

-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2
Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.

I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer
Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I
really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in
an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.

I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth,
so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with
my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.

As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of
Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows
Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and
does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows
apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all
bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they
launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first
thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a
nice clean Windows to begin setting up.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very satisfied. 
> I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard most of 
> the time.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
> things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
>> Tammy:
>>
>> As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
>> however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am 
>> assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My 
>> reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with 
>> the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without 
>> one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I 
>> cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
>> Jerry
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Tammy Freitag
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
>> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
>> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
>> questions;
>> 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
>> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
>> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
>> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
>> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
>> taking up space.
>>
>> These will do for a start.
>> Thanks for your input!
>>
>>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[net bat66]

the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own 
propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may not 
have drivers for the model you have.
now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but 
download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.


-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2
Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.

I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer
Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I
really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in
an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.

I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth,
so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with
my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.

As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of
Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows
Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and
does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows
apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all
bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they
launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first
thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a
nice clean Windows to begin setting up.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very satisfied. 
I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard most of 
the time.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.


On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am 
assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My 
reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with 
the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without 
one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I 
cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.

Jerry

-Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Annette Carr]

Hi Tammy,

I have primarily used Toshiba and Dell.  Others in my house have used HP,
although not with JAWS.  In my opinion, all 3 brands have been very
reliable.  With that said, my husband had a Toshiba and it was nothing but
trouble.

I have used laptops for nearly 30 years.  None of them have had a separate
number pad from the keyboard.  With my very first laptop, I attempted to use
an external number pad, and could never find one that allowed me to execute
JAWS commands.  As a result I have learned to use the embedded number pad,
and have the JAWS Keyboard layout set to Desktop.  Sometimes this does
require interesting finger gymnastics, but it works for me. 

When I'm looking for a new laptop, I look for the one that provides me with
the most up-to-date features for the lowest cost.  Yes, this probably means
that I will spend more money than I want, but I've always gotten 5 plus
years out of my laptops.  I also look for the lightest weight one with a
keyboard that feels right under my fingers, i.e. shape and size of the keys,
spacing between keys, and firmness when activating.  Finally, battery life
is a factor as well.  

With my current Toshiba dinosaur, I've gotten spoiled by a button between
the keyboard and the mouse that allows me to turn the mouse on and off as
needed.  My work Dell laptop requires me to use a keyboard command to turn
the mouse pad on and off, and that is not so bad.  As much as I would love
to say that I can tackle everything and anything on my computer without some
sighted help here and there, that is just not the case.  So being able to
turn the mouse on and off as needed is very convenient.

Many many years ago I bought one of my computers from MicroCenter and their
service was great.  They removed all of the junk and even installed JAWS for
me.  Another family member went there a number of years later and was not
happy with the service.  The last time I checked, their prices were higher
than Best Buy where I've bought the past 2 computers over the past 11 years.
Also with the last 2 purchases, I used the Dell and the Toshiba technical
support.  Both were very good at that time.  The Toshiba tech support
figured out how to turn off the "touch sensitive control panel so that I
could not accidently turn things on and off.  Now with the Microsoft
Disability Support line, you have another source for help.  Although
sometimes having all of these support options can get you in a position
where they each point the finger at the other one to address the problem.

Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.  My current Toshiba is now
six and a half years old, so I'm sure a replacement is not too far around
the corner.

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my questions; 1.
Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the shelf
or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before because I
didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs taking up
space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Kelly Ford]

My most recent personal laptop is an ASUS.  If you are comfortable with
using the JAWS laptop layout, I really enjoy this machine.  It isn't a touch
device but has a great feel on your lap and the weight of the device is so
incredible to feel that such a powerful device is so not heavy.  Most
importantly for me, typing on the keyboard feels solid.

To be clear this machine isn't for everyone.  It has a smaller screen but my
goals were powerful performance in the smallest machine I could find.

I bought it from Amazon originally.  The model I purchased doesn't seem to
be available from Amazon but maybe there is a newer model.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LHUAFAQ/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF
8=1



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Iagree about Dell laptop computers being a good pick.  I loved Toshiba
laptops but they no longer make laptops.  I have a year old Dell Inspiron
5559 and have had no problems with it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Dell.
Get one with a separate numpad, which means a 15-inch display. Get one off
the shelf. Get one with as much hard drive space as you can afford, and then

double that.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tammy Freitag" <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com>
To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:41
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions


Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Jason White]

I use a Lenovo P50S laptop for work that has a keyboard with a numeric keypad.
I know JAWS can be switched to laptop layout, but I prefer having the extra
keys just for use with screen readers. JAWS is fast and responsive on this
laptop with a braille display (Focus 40 Blue) and Vocalizer Expressive speech,
as long as nothing crashes, as some applications unfortunately tend to do.

I recently bought a similar laptop to use at home - a Lenovo P51. I can't
comment yet, as it's still on the way. 

Audiobookfan <listening...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
> *strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
> laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2 Windows
> laptops for the price of a macBook.
> 
> I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer Intel
> over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I really,
> really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in an external
> 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.
> 
> I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
> laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth, so
> that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with my
> laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.
> 
> As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
> version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of Windows
> built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows Refresh or
> something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and does a
> complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows apps. All
> other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all bloatware. I think
> this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they launched Windows. I know
> if I were buying a new computer, the first thing I'd do is bring it home and
> run a Windows Refresh, giving me a nice clean Windows to begin setting up.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> > I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very
> > satisfied.  I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external
> > keyboard most of the time.
> > 
> > 
> > lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is
> > not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
> > 
> > On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
> > > Tammy:
> > > 
> > > As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference.  Myself,
> > > however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am
> > > assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one).
> > > My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS
> > > keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different
> > > keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have
> > > always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
> > > Jerry
> > > 
> > > -Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag Sent: Wednesday, June 14,
> > > 2017 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
> > > 
> > > Hello, I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there
> > > isn't one perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and
> > > experiences of others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here
> > > are my questions; 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?  2.  What
> > > brand would you totally avoid? Why??  3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be
> > > better to purchase a system off the shelf or have one custom built?  I
> > > have had them custom built before because I didn't want all of the games
> > > and extra unaccessible programs taking up space.
> > > 
> > > These will do for a start.  Thanks for your input!
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Greg Washington]

Iagree about Dell laptop computers being a good pick.  I loved Toshiba
laptops but they no longer make laptops.  I have a year old Dell Inspiron
5559 and have had no problems with it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Dell.
Get one with a separate numpad, which means a 15-inch display. Get one off 
the shelf. Get one with as much hard drive space as you can afford, and then

double that.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Tammy Freitag" <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com>
To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:41
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions


Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


-- 
Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Audiobookfan]

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would 
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows 
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2 
Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.


I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer 
Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I 
really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in 
an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.


I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the 
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth, 
so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with 
my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.


As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next 
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of 
Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows 
Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and 
does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows 
apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all 
bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they 
launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first 
thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a 
nice clean Windows to begin setting up.


Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very 
satisfied.  I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external 
keyboard most of the time.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
small things, it does not exist at all.


On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I 
am assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having 
one). My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the 
JAWS keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different 
keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have 
always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.

Jerry

-Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Dave ...]

Dell.
Get one with a separate numpad, which means a 15-inch display. Get one off 
the shelf. Get one with as much hard drive space as you can afford, and then 
double that.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Tammy Freitag" <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com>
To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:41
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions


Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


-- 
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Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[net bat66]

the one thing with dells is you have to make sure the keyboard has a numb lock 
key. for some reason a few years ago dell decided we didn't need the numlock 
key anymore. so you have to request it when you buy there computers.


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself,
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am
assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My
reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with
the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without
one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I
cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: Tammy Freitag

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


--
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Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[David Ferrin]

Lenovo systems have served my needs quite well for a long period of time 
already.


I got a new one and a couple refurbished from Amazon and even the model I 
got in 2009 is still working along with the rest of them.


-Original Message- 
From: Tammy Freitag

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


--
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Steve]

I will start by saying it isn't really an option to "customize" a laptop. 
They're not nearly as easy to swap boards  in and out as you can with a 
desktop.


If you don't want to screw around with getting rid of all the unwanted 
software and games that come on most commercial laptops, you can look on the 
Microsoft site for I think they call them certified or something.


Another option is to find a listing on sites like Ebay that advertise a 
clean install of Windows 10 with no other bloatware.


At one time, I would say avoid Acers, they used to have more hardware issues 
andd their support wasn't very good.  That may have changed lately.


Personally, I have used HP for my last few leptops.

The main thing with a laptop is to get some hands-on experience with it. 
Unlike desktops, their keyboard layout and feel can vary quite a bit between 
different brands or models.



- Original Message - 
From: "Tammy Freitag" <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com>

To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions



Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[wayne smith]

Which version of JAWS are you using with your Mac?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

hello,
the best windos 10 laptop is a MacBook Pro with Bootcamp. all you are
getting is windows, and drivers for mac hardware.  I use bootcamp a lot, and
have no issues.
Daniel


On 6/14/17, Tammy Freitag <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one 
> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of 
> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my 
> questions; 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the 
> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before 
> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs 
> taking up space.
>
> These will do for a start.
> Thanks for your input!
>
>
> --
> Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
> Tammy
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Maria Campbell]

I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very 
satisfied.  I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external 
keyboard most of the time.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I 
am assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having 
one). My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the 
JAWS keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different 
keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have 
always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.

Jerry

-Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[jyandt.martin]

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am 
assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My 
reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with 
the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without 
one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I 
cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.

Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: Tammy Freitag

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


--
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Daniel MacDonald]

hello,
the best windos 10 laptop is a MacBook Pro with Bootcamp. all you are
getting is windows, and drivers for mac hardware.  I use bootcamp a
lot, and have no issues.
Daniel


On 6/14/17, Tammy Freitag  wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
> questions;
> 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
> taking up space.
>
> These will do for a start.
> Thanks for your input!
>
>
> --
> Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
> Tammy
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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[JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Tammy Freitag]

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


-- 
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[JAWS-Users] laptop reboots in mute mode

[Tom Clary]

 after turning my laptop off for a 3 hour car ride, and rebooting it,
there was no musical jingle letting me know it was loaded, and also,
jaws didn't come on (I have jaws start after it loads). I rebooted it
2 more times, before having a family member look at it, and was told
it was in mute mode. since it opens in mute mode...no jaws. anyone
have this happen to them, and can help? jaws 17

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[JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard

[Lenny McHugh]

I did get to see the hp15-f233mw that I should receive on Friday. There is 
only an alt and control to the right of the space bar. Will this be a major 
problem?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard

[David Moore]

Hi,
This will not be a problem. You are missing the applications key, but you 
can press shift + F10 to do the same thing. You will have to press that 
command instead of the applications key. Have a great one.



-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 1:25 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard

I did get to see the hp15-f233mw that I should receive on Friday. There is
only an alt and control to the right of the space bar. Will this be a major
problem?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Should work just fine with JAWS I would say.

Regarding the other discussions, can't really comment on that but I am finding 
Microsoft Windows 10 o.k.


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Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: 25 November 2015 18:57
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

I just called a very small family computer repair and sales shop. I was curious 
to see what they may have in stock to compare to the Hp at staples.
They have an older new laptop with windows 7 home. It is an Asus x550a I3, 4gb 
ram and a T-byte system for $250.
Wonder if it will work ok with jaws.
He highly recommended that I stay away from win 10. He has about 15 computers 
on the shelf to have win 10 removed and a few more coming into the shop.
He also stated that there was something on the news that windows 10 tracks you. 
That was on the morning news.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Absolutely, we all get used to what we know.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: 25 November 2015 20:10
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

if you remember they said the same thing about win 7 as they do about win 10 
when it came out!

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:57 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

I just called a very small family computer repair and sales shop. I was curious 
to see what they may have in stock to compare to the Hp at staples.
They have an older new laptop with windows 7 home. It is an Asus x550a I3, 4gb 
ram and a T-byte system for $250.
Wonder if it will work ok with jaws.
He highly recommended that I stay away from win 10. He has about 15 computers 
on the shelf to have win 10 removed and a few more coming into the shop.
He also stated that there was something on the news that windows 10 tracks you. 
That was on the morning news.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

[Steve]

There are step-by-step instructions posted for accomplishing this; I've seen 
articles in Windows Secrets newsletter which I religiously subscribe to; as 
well 
as a lot of other placesone can find by searching Google.

The directions are simple enough that a person with a modicum of intelligence 
and the ability to follow step-by-step procedures can easily succeed.

The folks at Microsoft had a reason for setting this up; I'm sure many people 
won't bother to make the corrections.  But, those who are sensitive about 
privacy and such can make these changes easily.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Behler
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7


But, should we really have to do this, or try to find the technical savy help 
to 
get this accomplished?

Do we really need another "big brother" to be watching our every move?

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

win 10 may beable to track you but you can turn off these features if you know 
how.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:57 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

I just called a very small family computer repair and sales shop. I was curious 
to see what they may have in stock to compare to the Hp at staples.
They have an older new laptop with windows 7 home. It is an Asus x550a I3, 4gb 
ram and a T-byte system for $250.
Wonder if it will work ok with jaws.
He highly recommended that I stay away from win 10. He has about 15 computers 
on 
the shelf to have win 10 removed and a few more coming into the shop.
He also stated that there was something on the news that windows 10 tracks you. 
That was on the morning news.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

[Steve]

Yes, it will work.

There are ways to modify Win 10 if that tracking really bothers you.

The drawback on buying a new PC with Win 7 is that you will not get any 
security 
updates in less than five years.
- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh
To: JFW List
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:57 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7


I just called a very small family computer repair and sales shop. I was
curious to see what they may have in stock to compare to the Hp at staples.
They have an older new laptop with windows 7 home. It is an Asus x550a I3,
4gb ram and a T-byte system for $250.
Wonder if it will work ok with jaws.
He highly recommended that I stay away from win 10. He has about 15
computers on the shelf to have win 10 removed and a few more coming into the
shop.
He also stated that there was something on the news that windows 10 tracks
you. That was on the morning news.



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[JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

[Lenny McHugh]

I just called a very small family computer repair and sales shop. I was 
curious to see what they may have in stock to compare to the Hp at staples.
They have an older new laptop with windows 7 home. It is an Asus x550a I3, 
4gb ram and a T-byte system for $250.
Wonder if it will work ok with jaws.
He highly recommended that I stay away from win 10. He has about 15 
computers on the shelf to have win 10 removed and a few more coming into the 
shop.
He also stated that there was something on the news that windows 10 tracks 
you. That was on the morning news.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

[Kevin]

if you remember they said the same thing about win 7 as they do about win 10 
when it came out!


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:57 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

I just called a very small family computer repair and sales shop. I was
curious to see what they may have in stock to compare to the Hp at staples.
They have an older new laptop with windows 7 home. It is an Asus x550a I3,
4gb ram and a T-byte system for $250.
Wonder if it will work ok with jaws.
He highly recommended that I stay away from win 10. He has about 15
computers on the shelf to have win 10 removed and a few more coming into the
shop.
He also stated that there was something on the news that windows 10 tracks
you. That was on the morning news.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

[Tom Behler]

But, should we really have to do this, or try to find the technical savy help 
to get this accomplished?

Do we really need another "big brother" to be watching our every move?

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

win 10 may beable to track you but you can turn off these features if you know 
how.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:57 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

I just called a very small family computer repair and sales shop. I was curious 
to see what they may have in stock to compare to the Hp at staples.
They have an older new laptop with windows 7 home. It is an Asus x550a I3, 4gb 
ram and a T-byte system for $250.
Wonder if it will work ok with jaws.
He highly recommended that I stay away from win 10. He has about 15 computers 
on the shelf to have win 10 removed and a few more coming into the shop.
He also stated that there was something on the news that windows 10 tracks you. 
That was on the morning news.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

[Kevin]

win 10 may beable to track you but you can turn off these features if you 
know how.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:57 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop computer win 7

I just called a very small family computer repair and sales shop. I was
curious to see what they may have in stock to compare to the Hp at staples.
They have an older new laptop with windows 7 home. It is an Asus x550a I3,
4gb ram and a T-byte system for $250.
Wonder if it will work ok with jaws.
He highly recommended that I stay away from win 10. He has about 15
computers on the shelf to have win 10 removed and a few more coming into the
shop.
He also stated that there was something on the news that windows 10 tracks
you. That was on the morning news.



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[JAWS-Users] Laptop equivalent keys

[Alan Robbins]

Ok, using JAWS on my Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet with Logitech K810
wireless keyboard. I have found on the JAWS site most of the
keystrokes on a laptop layout I was used to with a full size keyboard.
Here is where I'm stuck. The Logitech keyboard does not have a page
up, page down, end or home key. How do you invoke various jaws
commands and tasks without these keys?

Thanks,

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop equivalent keys

[Mail]

Hi Al,

On my laptop I use the function key plus left cursor for home, function plus
right cursor for end, function plus up cursor for page up, and function plus
down cursor for page down.
This may be the same for you.

Hth

John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: 06 October 2014 19:02
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop equivalent keys

Ok, using JAWS on my Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet with Logitech K810 wireless
keyboard. I have found on the JAWS site most of the keystrokes on a laptop
layout I was used to with a full size keyboard.
Here is where I'm stuck. The Logitech keyboard does not have a page up, page
down, end or home key. How do you invoke various jaws commands and tasks
without these keys?

Thanks,

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop equivalent keys

[Mike Boyd]

Does you wireless keyboard have a num pad on it? If it does, then with the 
num lock turned off, Page up is the 9 key, Page down is the 3 key, Home is 
the 7 key, and End is the 1 key. If the keyboard does not have the num pad, 
then I don't know.


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net



-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:01 AM
To: Jaws-Users-List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop equivalent keys

Ok, using JAWS on my Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet with Logitech K810
wireless keyboard. I have found on the JAWS site most of the
keystrokes on a laptop layout I was used to with a full size keyboard.
Here is where I'm stuck. The Logitech keyboard does not have a page
up, page down, end or home key. How do you invoke various jaws
commands and tasks without these keys?

Thanks,

Al

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[JAWS-Users] laptop keys

[Alan Robbins]

Hello,

 

Using a laptop keyboard for first time. I changed in startup wizard
from standard to laptop.. Here are my questions. What on a laptop
replace the following:

 

Scroll lock

Pause

Home

End

Page up

Page down

Insert or jaws key

Application key

 

Please let me know or direct me to a resource

 

Best,

Al

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keys

[Alan Robbins]

Please ignore, I found the resource in JAWS help. I over looked
earlier

Best,
Al

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 5:30 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keys

Hello,

 

Using a laptop keyboard for first time. I changed in startup wizard
from standard to laptop.. Here are my questions. What on a laptop
replace the following:

 

Scroll lock

Pause

Home

End

Page up

Page down

Insert or jaws key

Application key

 

Please let me know or direct me to a resource

 

Best,

Al

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[JAWS-Users] Laptop layout

[Øyvind Lode]

Hi list:

This is probably a question for non-US keyboard users.

The laptop keyboard command for routing the JAWS cursor to PC cursor is Caps 
Lock+].

How can I accomplish that on my Norwegian keyboard layout?

I don't have a ]-key.
To type the ] character I have to press ctrl+alt+9.

However, pressing Caps lock + ctrl + alt + 9 does not route JAWS to PC.

Thanks,

-Øyvind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop

[Jorge Rivas]

Hi,
I'd call Freedom, since no one else is replying to you.

Adios.
Jorge


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Angelina Stabile
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop

I tried to restart it did not work. 

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Behalf Of Jorge Rivas
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop

Hello Angelina,
Have you tried a restart?

In the run... menu type in msconfig and press enter.

Look around and see if you find something there you might need to check or
uncheck.

HTH.

Jorge


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Behalf Of Angelina Stabile
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop

I need help I have a dell laptop and jaws 14 and windows 7. When I turn on
the laptop the windows load and the desktop comes up. But jaws does not
speak and it buffers all of the time. I am afraid to turn it off. I have to
turn it on several times in order for it to work properly. Thanks

 

Angelina Stabile

 

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[JAWS-Users] laptop

[Angelina Stabile]

I need help I have a dell laptop and jaws 14 and windows 7. When I turn on
the laptop the windows load and the desktop comes up. But jaws does not
speak and it buffers all of the time. I am afraid to turn it off. I have to
turn it on several times in order for it to work properly. Thanks

 

Angelina Stabile

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop

[Jorge Rivas]

Hello Angelina,
Have you tried a restart?

In the run... menu type in msconfig and press enter.

Look around and see if you find something there you might need to check or
uncheck.

HTH.

Jorge


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Angelina Stabile
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop

I need help I have a dell laptop and jaws 14 and windows 7. When I turn on
the laptop the windows load and the desktop comes up. But jaws does not
speak and it buffers all of the time. I am afraid to turn it off. I have to
turn it on several times in order for it to work properly. Thanks

 

Angelina Stabile

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop

[Angelina Stabile]

I tried to restart it did not work. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jorge Rivas
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop

Hello Angelina,
Have you tried a restart?

In the run... menu type in msconfig and press enter.

Look around and see if you find something there you might need to check or
uncheck.

HTH.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Angelina Stabile
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop

I need help I have a dell laptop and jaws 14 and windows 7. When I turn on
the laptop the windows load and the desktop comes up. But jaws does not
speak and it buffers all of the time. I am afraid to turn it off. I have to
turn it on several times in order for it to work properly. Thanks

 

Angelina Stabile

 

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[JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Tom Clary]

 is there a link on the freedom scientific homepage that can help me
with my laptop keyboard layout? if so, guide me please

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[John R. Vaughn]

Tom, the laptop key strokes are in your help file.
go to the jaws interface with insert J  and H for help, then down arrow once 
to help topics, open this with right arrow and down arrow to key strokes, 
open this and you will see the laptop keystrokes along with others.  Use F6 
to read the topic.

John in sunny southwest florida then
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Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout



is there a link on the freedom scientific homepage that can help me
with my laptop keyboard layout? if so, guide me please

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Tom]

never knew, so will get right on it, thanks

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

Tom, the laptop key strokes are in your help file.
go to the jaws interface with insert J  and H for help, then down arrow once
to help topics, open this with right arrow and down arrow to key strokes,
open this and you will see the laptop keystrokes along with others.  Use F6
to read the topic.
John in sunny southwest florida then
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To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout



is there a link on the freedom scientific homepage that can help me
with my laptop keyboard layout? if so, guide me please

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Tom]

forgot, there's no insert key, so how do I do this?

-Original Message- 
From: John R. Vaughn

Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

Tom, the laptop key strokes are in your help file.
go to the jaws interface with insert J  and H for help, then down arrow once
to help topics, open this with right arrow and down arrow to key strokes,
open this and you will see the laptop keystrokes along with others.  Use F6
to read the topic.
John in sunny southwest florida then
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From: Tom Clary tclar...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout



is there a link on the freedom scientific homepage that can help me
with my laptop keyboard layout? if so, guide me please

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Roberta]

Go under your jaws helps, alt h,  and arrow down and you will find
keystrokes for the desk top and lap top

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Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:13 AM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

 is there a link on the freedom scientific homepage that can help me
with my laptop keyboard layout? if so, guide me please

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[JAWS-Users] Laptop Commands For Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi All,



Someone asked for a laptop key command earlier.  Below is the commands I 
have saved.  I can't guarantee they will work for newer versions of Jaws 
being I don't use a laptop.



Laptop commands

find the laptop keys for jaws



PC Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON



JAWS Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+P



Invisible Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly



Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE



Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET



Restrict JAWS Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+R



Left Mouse Button

 CAPS LOCK+8



Right Mouse Button

 CAPS LOCK+9



Left Mouse Button Lock

 CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8



Right Mouse Button Lock

 CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9



Drag and Drop

 CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8



Say Active Cursor

 ALT+DELETE



Mouse Down

 ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW



Mouse Left

 ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW



Mouse Right

 ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW



Mouse Up

 ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW



press capslock and P

will switch to the jaws cursor

press capslock and semi colon to switch back to the PC cursor.



HTH

Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Commands From Jaws 13 Help

[Mike B.]

Here are laptop commands from the Jaws 13 help files in case newer versions 
are a little different than the last ones I posted.

Laptop Keystrokes for Cursors and Mouse Simulation
Description Command
PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON
JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+P
Invisible Cursor CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly
Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE
Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET
Restrict JAWS Cursor CAPS LOCK+R
Left Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+8
Right Mouse Button CAPS LOCK+9
Left Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8
Right Mouse Button Lock CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9
Drag and Drop CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+8
Say Active Cursor ALT+DELETE
Mouse Down ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
Mouse Left ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW
Mouse Right ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
Mouse Up ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW


Laptop Keystrokes for Reading Text and Information
Description Command
Say Prior Character CAPS LOCK+M
Say Next Character CAPS LOCK+PERIOD
Say Character CAPS LOCK+COMMA
Say Character Phonetically CAPS LOCK+COMMA twice quickly
Say Prior Word CAPS LOCK+J
Say Next Word CAPS LOCK+L
Say Word CAPS LOCK+K
Spell Word CAPS LOCK+K twice quickly
Say Prior Line CAPS LOCK+U
Say Next Line CAPS LOCK+O
Say Line CAPS LOCK+I
Spell Current Line CAPS LOCK+I twice quickly
Say Prior Sentence CAPS LOCK+Y
Say Next Sentence CAPS LOCK+N
Say Sentence CAPS LOCK+H
Say Prior Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+U
Say Next Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+O (Note: For Internet Explorer, this 
command opens a list that shows the objects available on the current Web 
page. The HTML Object tag embeds content such as Flash movies, JAVA applets, 
images, audio, and video.)
Say Paragraph CAPS LOCK+CTRL+I
Say to Cursor CAPS LOCK+HOME or CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+J
Say from Cursor CAPS LOCK+PAGE UP or CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+L
Spell to Cursor CAPS LOCK+HOME or
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+J twice quickly
Spell from Cursor CAPS LOCK+PAGE UP or
CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+L twice quickly
Say All CAPS LOCK+A or CAPS LOCK+DOWN ARROW
Say All with Alternate Synthesizer ALT+CAPS LOCK+DOWN ARROW
Say Selected Text CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+A or CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
Say Color CAPS LOCK+5
Say Font CAPS LOCK+F
Say Top Line of Window CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+Y
Say Bottom Line of Window CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+N
Report Battery Level CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+B
Say ASCII or Hexadecimal Value CAPS LOCK+COMMA three times quickly
Say Current Table Cell ALT+SHIFT+COMMA
Move to Prior Table Cell ALT+SHIFT+M
Move to Next Table Cell ALT+SHIFT+PERIOD
Move Up One Table Cell ALT+SHIFT+Y
Move Down One Table Cell ALT+SHIFT+N
Start Skim Reading CTRL+CAPS LOCK+DOWN ARROW
Skim Reading dialog box CTRL+CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW
Display Skim Reading Summary CAPS LOCK+WINDOWS Key+DOWN ARROW
HTH
Take care.
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- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.
To: Jaws-Users List
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 11:54 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Commands For Jaws


Hi All,



Someone asked for a laptop key command earlier.  Below is the commands I
have saved.  I can't guarantee they will work for newer versions of Jaws
being I don't use a laptop.



Laptop commands

find the laptop keys for jaws



PC Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON



JAWS Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+P



Invisible Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly



Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE



Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET



Restrict JAWS Cursor

 CAPS LOCK+R



Left Mouse Button

 CAPS LOCK+8



Right Mouse Button

 CAPS LOCK+9



Left Mouse Button Lock

 CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8



Right Mouse Button Lock

 CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9



Drag and Drop

 CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8



Say Active Cursor

 ALT+DELETE



Mouse Down

 ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW



Mouse Left

 ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW



Mouse Right

 ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW



Mouse Up

 ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW



press capslock and P

will switch to the jaws cursor

press capslock and semi colon to switch back to the PC cursor.



HTH

Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Commands For Jaws

[Scott Meyer]

Hi Mike;
Thanks very much. will give it a try.
Regards
Scott

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B. 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 2:54 PM 
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop Commands For Jaws 


Hi All,



Someone asked for a laptop key command earlier.  Below is the commands I 
have saved.  I can't guarantee they will work for newer versions of Jaws 
being I don't use a laptop.




Laptop commands

find the laptop keys for jaws



PC Cursor

CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON



JAWS Cursor

CAPS LOCK+P



Invisible Cursor

CAPS LOCK+P twice quickly



Route PC Cursor to JAWS Cursor

CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE



Route JAWS Cursor to PC Cursor

CAPS LOCK+LEFT BRACKET



Restrict JAWS Cursor

CAPS LOCK+R



Left Mouse Button

CAPS LOCK+8



Right Mouse Button

CAPS LOCK+9



Left Mouse Button Lock

CTRL+WINDOWS Key+8



Right Mouse Button Lock

CTRL+WINDOWS Key+9



Drag and Drop

CAPS LOCK+CTRL+8



Say Active Cursor

ALT+DELETE



Mouse Down

ALT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW



Mouse Left

ALT+SHIFT+LEFT ARROW



Mouse Right

ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW



Mouse Up

ALT+SHIFT+UP ARROW



press capslock and P

will switch to the jaws cursor

press capslock and semi colon to switch back to the PC cursor.



HTH

Take care.
Mike
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[JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem

[Tom]

I wrote earlier today asking for help with what to do when I put cmd in the 
start menu search box, and the page openned. I also put a list of commands a 
computer friend gave me. I’ve replied to the jaws user that answered my 
question, but have heard nothing back from him, but another question I have is, 
when he said to “
When you bring up that task tray with insert f11 does it even show 
something for connections?” on my laptop, I hit cap loc + f11, and nothing 
happens. am I hitting the correct key for insert?
  I’m simply trying to connect to the internet by hooking up to my modem
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem

[tim]

You have to have jaws set to laptop in the basic options. Then that 
key combo should work.


At 10:56 AM 7/9/2013, you wrote:
I wrote earlier today asking for help with what to do when I put cmd 
in the start menu search box, and the page openned. I also put a 
list of commands a computer friend gave me. I've replied to the jaws 
user that answered my question, but have heard nothing back from 
him, but another question I have is, when he said to 

When you bring up that task tray with insert f11 does it even show
something for connections? on my laptop, I hit cap loc + f11, and 
nothing happens. am I hitting the correct key for insert?

  I'm simply trying to connect to the internet by hooking up to my modem
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem

[Tom]

thanks, but how do I do this?

-Original Message- 
From: tim 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:09 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem 

You have to have jaws set to laptop in the basic options. Then that 
key combo should work.


At 10:56 AM 7/9/2013, you wrote:
I wrote earlier today asking for help with what to do when I put cmd 
in the start menu search box, and the page openned. I also put a 
list of commands a computer friend gave me. I've replied to the jaws 
user that answered my question, but have heard nothing back from 
him, but another question I have is, when he said to 

When you bring up that task tray with insert f11 does it even show
something for connections? on my laptop, I hit cap loc + f11, and 
nothing happens. am I hitting the correct key for insert?

  I'm simply trying to connect to the internet by hooking up to my modem
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem

[Janie Degenshein]

Bring jaws to the forefront with Insert j
or alt tab to jaws
1 alt o for options and down arrow to basics and enter
now tab through the fields and one is 
use keyboard layout 
here you have choices so arrow to lap top

continue tabbing until you get to okay and space bar or enter
Hope this helps you!

-Original Message- 
From: Tom 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:53 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem 


thanks, but how do I do this?

-Original Message- 
From: tim 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:09 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem 

You have to have jaws set to laptop in the basic options. Then that 
key combo should work.


At 10:56 AM 7/9/2013, you wrote:
I wrote earlier today asking for help with what to do when I put cmd 
in the start menu search box, and the page openned. I also put a 
list of commands a computer friend gave me. I've replied to the jaws 
user that answered my question, but have heard nothing back from 
him, but another question I have is, when he said to 

When you bring up that task tray with insert f11 does it even show
something for connections? on my laptop, I hit cap loc + f11, and 
nothing happens. am I hitting the correct key for insert?

  I'm simply trying to connect to the internet by hooking up to my modem
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem

[Tom]

will give it a try, thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:21 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem 


Bring jaws to the forefront with Insert j
or alt tab to jaws
1 alt o for options and down arrow to basics and enter
now tab through the fields and one is 
use keyboard layout 
here you have choices so arrow to lap top

continue tabbing until you get to okay and space bar or enter
Hope this helps you!

-Original Message- 
From: Tom 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:53 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem 


thanks, but how do I do this?

-Original Message- 
From: tim 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:09 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop internet connection problem 

You have to have jaws set to laptop in the basic options. Then that 
key combo should work.


At 10:56 AM 7/9/2013, you wrote:
I wrote earlier today asking for help with what to do when I put cmd 
in the start menu search box, and the page openned. I also put a 
list of commands a computer friend gave me. I've replied to the jaws 
user that answered my question, but have heard nothing back from 
him, but another question I have is, when he said to 

When you bring up that task tray with insert f11 does it even show
something for connections? on my laptop, I hit cap loc + f11, and 
nothing happens. am I hitting the correct key for insert?

  I'm simply trying to connect to the internet by hooking up to my modem
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[JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

[Tom]

  I’ve been sending recent questions on help with my new laptop, and other than 
finding out connecting to wireless, I’ve also noticed that the keyboard layout 
is different too, so I’m asking:
is the shift key the insert key?
is there an applications key? 
how do I open any of the f keys?
are all laptop keyboards designed , layed out, the same
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

[tim]

To answer your last question first no, all manufactures have there 
own layout for keyboard. Some do have full size keyboards and are 
mostly 17 inch. The smaller sizes have compact keyboards and use a FN 
key as a modifier key for the f1 to f12 keys for different functions. 
Some of them will have a application key and some won't.

You can set jaws to use the caps lock key for the insert key.
On my Toshiba netbook has a insert key next to the delete key and the 
Toshiba 15 inch has none, and the dell aspire also has none. But all 
3 do have the wireless quick shut off key controlled with the FN key 
with f2, f6 and f4. So it just depends on manufacture and model for 
keyboard layout.


At 05:42 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
  I've been sending recent questions on help with my new laptop, 
and other than finding out connecting to wireless, I've also 
noticed that the keyboard layout is different too, so I'm asking:

is the shift key the insert key?
is there an applications key?
how do I open any of the f keys?
are all laptop keyboards designed , layed out, the same
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

[Tom]

thanks for the info. how do I set jaws to use the shift key as the insert 
key, and is there a f key that takes the place of the application key?


-Original Message- 
From: tim

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

To answer your last question first no, all manufactures have there
own layout for keyboard. Some do have full size keyboards and are
mostly 17 inch. The smaller sizes have compact keyboards and use a FN
key as a modifier key for the f1 to f12 keys for different functions.
Some of them will have a application key and some won't.
You can set jaws to use the caps lock key for the insert key.
On my Toshiba netbook has a insert key next to the delete key and the
Toshiba 15 inch has none, and the dell aspire also has none. But all
3 do have the wireless quick shut off key controlled with the FN key
with f2, f6 and f4. So it just depends on manufacture and model for
keyboard layout.

At 05:42 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
  I've been sending recent questions on help with my new laptop, and other 
than finding out connecting to wireless, I've also noticed that the 
keyboard layout is different too, so I'm asking:

is the shift key the insert key?
is there an applications key?
how do I open any of the f keys?
are all laptop keyboards designed , layed out, the same
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

[Tom]

 I'm still having a lot of trouble with the wireless internet functions, so 
do you know of a website that can tell me all I need to do to get to the 
internet with a screen reader?


-Original Message- 
From: tim

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

To answer your last question first no, all manufactures have there
own layout for keyboard. Some do have full size keyboards and are
mostly 17 inch. The smaller sizes have compact keyboards and use a FN
key as a modifier key for the f1 to f12 keys for different functions.
Some of them will have a application key and some won't.
You can set jaws to use the caps lock key for the insert key.
On my Toshiba netbook has a insert key next to the delete key and the
Toshiba 15 inch has none, and the dell aspire also has none. But all
3 do have the wireless quick shut off key controlled with the FN key
with f2, f6 and f4. So it just depends on manufacture and model for
keyboard layout.

At 05:42 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
  I've been sending recent questions on help with my new laptop, and other 
than finding out connecting to wireless, I've also noticed that the 
keyboard layout is different too, so I'm asking:

is the shift key the insert key?
is there an applications key?
how do I open any of the f keys?
are all laptop keyboards designed , layed out, the same
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

[tim]

You can't do that

At 11:13 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
thanks for the info. how do I set jaws to use the shift key as the 
insert key, and is there a f key that takes the place of the application key?


-Original Message- From: tim
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

To answer your last question first no, all manufactures have there
own layout for keyboard. Some do have full size keyboards and are
mostly 17 inch. The smaller sizes have compact keyboards and use a FN
key as a modifier key for the f1 to f12 keys for different functions.
Some of them will have a application key and some won't.
You can set jaws to use the caps lock key for the insert key.
On my Toshiba netbook has a insert key next to the delete key and the
Toshiba 15 inch has none, and the dell aspire also has none. But all
3 do have the wireless quick shut off key controlled with the FN key
with f2, f6 and f4. So it just depends on manufacture and model for
keyboard layout.

At 05:42 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
  I've been sending recent questions on help with my new laptop, 
and other than finding out connecting to wireless, I've also 
noticed that the keyboard layout is different too, so I'm asking:

is the shift key the insert key?
is there an applications key?
how do I open any of the f keys?
are all laptop keyboards designed , layed out, the same
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

[Tom]

 so then, the cap loc key just works as the insert key on a laptop, and 
there's no other way to do the functions on the application key?


-Original Message- 
From: tim

Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

You can't do that

At 11:13 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
thanks for the info. how do I set jaws to use the shift key as the insert 
key, and is there a f key that takes the place of the application key?


-Original Message- From: tim
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

To answer your last question first no, all manufactures have there
own layout for keyboard. Some do have full size keyboards and are
mostly 17 inch. The smaller sizes have compact keyboards and use a FN
key as a modifier key for the f1 to f12 keys for different functions.
Some of them will have a application key and some won't.
You can set jaws to use the caps lock key for the insert key.
On my Toshiba netbook has a insert key next to the delete key and the
Toshiba 15 inch has none, and the dell aspire also has none. But all
3 do have the wireless quick shut off key controlled with the FN key
with f2, f6 and f4. So it just depends on manufacture and model for
keyboard layout.

At 05:42 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
  I've been sending recent questions on help with my new laptop, and 
other than finding out connecting to wireless, I've also noticed that the 
keyboard layout is different too, so I'm asking:

is the shift key the insert key?
is there an applications key?
how do I open any of the f keys?
are all laptop keyboards designed , layed out, the same
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

[Mike O'Brien]

Hi

I believe that shift+f10 will bring up the same menu as the applications
key.
+

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

  so then, the cap loc key just works as the insert key on a laptop, and
there's no other way to do the functions on the application key?

-Original Message-
From: tim
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

You can't do that

At 11:13 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
thanks for the info. how do I set jaws to use the shift key as the 
insert key, and is there a f key that takes the place of the application
key?

-Original Message- From: tim
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

To answer your last question first no, all manufactures have there own 
layout for keyboard. Some do have full size keyboards and are mostly 17 
inch. The smaller sizes have compact keyboards and use a FN key as a 
modifier key for the f1 to f12 keys for different functions.
Some of them will have a application key and some won't.
You can set jaws to use the caps lock key for the insert key.
On my Toshiba netbook has a insert key next to the delete key and the 
Toshiba 15 inch has none, and the dell aspire also has none. But all
3 do have the wireless quick shut off key controlled with the FN key 
with f2, f6 and f4. So it just depends on manufacture and model for 
keyboard layout.

At 05:42 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
   I've been sending recent questions on help with my new laptop, and  
other than finding out connecting to wireless, I've also noticed that 
the  keyboard layout is different too, so I'm asking:
is the shift key the insert key?
is there an applications key?
how do I open any of the f keys?
are all laptop keyboards designed , layed out, the same For answers to 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

[David Ferrin]

Quite correct my good man.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

Hi

I believe that shift+f10 will bring up the same menu as the applications
key.
+

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

  so then, the cap loc key just works as the insert key on a laptop, and
there's no other way to do the functions on the application key?

-Original Message-
From: tim
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

You can't do that

At 11:13 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
thanks for the info. how do I set jaws to use the shift key as the 
insert key, and is there a f key that takes the place of the 
application
key?

-Original Message- From: tim
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keystrokes

To answer your last question first no, all manufactures have there own 
layout for keyboard. Some do have full size keyboards and are mostly 17 
inch. The smaller sizes have compact keyboards and use a FN key as a 
modifier key for the f1 to f12 keys for different functions.
Some of them will have a application key and some won't.
You can set jaws to use the caps lock key for the insert key.
On my Toshiba netbook has a insert key next to the delete key and the 
Toshiba 15 inch has none, and the dell aspire also has none. But all
3 do have the wireless quick shut off key controlled with the FN key 
with f2, f6 and f4. So it just depends on manufacture and model for 
keyboard layout.

At 05:42 AM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
   I've been sending recent questions on help with my new laptop, and 
other than finding out connecting to wireless, I've also noticed that 
the  keyboard layout is different too, so I'm asking:
is the shift key the insert key?
is there an applications key?
how do I open any of the f keys?
are all laptop keyboards designed , layed out, the same For answers to 
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[JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Matt Turner]

Hay there, Tom.
when you swith to the laptop layout with jaws, the jaws key, insert key 
is the caps lock key.
you can also find a dazie book about the laptop keyboard layout on the 
training downloads page.

HTH.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Tom]

thank you so much

-Original Message- 
From: Matt Turner 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:07 PM 
To: Jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout 


Hay there, Tom.
when you swith to the laptop layout with jaws, the jaws key, insert key 
is the caps lock key.
you can also find a dazie book about the laptop keyboard layout on the 
training downloads page.

HTH.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Janie Degenshein]

try putting keyboard help on with
insert 1 on the number row
this is a toggle and may assist you !

-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:08 PM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

I just got a dell inspiron 6000 laptop, sent from a friend, and if anyone 
out there uses one, I need help with the keyboard layout. I can’t locate 
certain keys

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Keep Smiling,
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Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have
Access Tech Consultant
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
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[JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Tom]

I just got a dell inspiron 6000 laptop, sent from a friend, and if anyone out 
there uses one, I need help with the keyboard layout. I can’t locate certain 
keys
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Kimsan]

Can you evoke insert 1 on the home row and use keyboard help?
That's what I do when I am lost with a keyboard.


Kimsan Song
Access Technology Trainer
www.BlindAccessTraining.com
Toll-free
1-877-774-7670


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:09 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

I just got a dell inspiron 6000 laptop, sent from a friend, and if anyone
out there uses one, I need help with the keyboard layout. I can't locate
certain keys For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Tom]

I'll give it a try when I install jaws, and have a sighted person to point 
out the insert key. the layout, as far as the num pad, is different then my 
pc



-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

Can you evoke insert 1 on the home row and use keyboard help?
That's what I do when I am lost with a keyboard.


Kimsan Song
Access Technology Trainer
www.BlindAccessTraining.com
Toll-free
1-877-774-7670


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:09 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

I just got a dell inspiron 6000 laptop, sent from a friend, and if anyone
out there uses one, I need help with the keyboard layout. I can't locate
certain keys For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Trish]

hey Tom,

Get yourself a wireless one that is full size as for desktop, it's what I 
use with my laptop, all the keys are the same as for a desktop keyboard, and 
wireless just makes it more handy. I've taken mine in a suitcase on the 
bus..plane..thing is indestructable,lol
You get a little plug goes in a USB slot on your laptop. Mine is a Microsoft 
wireless keyboard purchased from Amazon for around $40
It uses 2 double A batteries.

- Original Message - 
From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout


I'll give it a try when I install jaws, and have a sighted person to point
out the insert key. the layout, as far as the num pad, is different then my
pc


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

Can you evoke insert 1 on the home row and use keyboard help?
That's what I do when I am lost with a keyboard.


Kimsan Song
Access Technology Trainer
www.BlindAccessTraining.com
Toll-free
1-877-774-7670


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:09 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

I just got a dell inspiron 6000 laptop, sent from a friend, and if anyone
out there uses one, I need help with the keyboard layout. I can't locate
certain keys For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[Tom Clary]

 good idea. thank you

On 6/22/13, Trish trishzoellers-sc...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 hey Tom,

 Get yourself a wireless one that is full size as for desktop, it's what I
 use with my laptop, all the keys are the same as for a desktop keyboard, and

 wireless just makes it more handy. I've taken mine in a suitcase on the
 bus..plane..thing is indestructable,lol
 You get a little plug goes in a USB slot on your laptop. Mine is a Microsoft

 wireless keyboard purchased from Amazon for around $40
 It uses 2 double A batteries.

 - Original Message -
 From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout


 I'll give it a try when I install jaws, and have a sighted person to point
 out the insert key. the layout, as far as the num pad, is different then my
 pc


 -Original Message-
 From: Kimsan
 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:11 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

 Can you evoke insert 1 on the home row and use keyboard help?
 That's what I do when I am lost with a keyboard.


 Kimsan Song
 Access Technology Trainer
 www.BlindAccessTraining.com
 Toll-free
 1-877-774-7670


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom
 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:09 AM
 To: jul
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

 I just got a dell inspiron 6000 laptop, sent from a friend, and if anyone
 out there uses one, I need help with the keyboard layout. I can't locate
 certain keys For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
 visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

[David Whitehead]

hello Tom;
well, if your going to use the laptop layout, the insert key is the capslock
key.
not sure about the 
dell inspiron 6000 if it has a full size keyboard or not.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

 good idea. thank you

On 6/22/13, Trish trishzoellers-sc...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 hey Tom,

 Get yourself a wireless one that is full size as for desktop, it's 
 what I use with my laptop, all the keys are the same as for a desktop 
 keyboard, and

 wireless just makes it more handy. I've taken mine in a suitcase on 
 the bus..plane..thing is indestructable,lol You get a little plug goes 
 in a USB slot on your laptop. Mine is a Microsoft

 wireless keyboard purchased from Amazon for around $40 It uses 2 
 double A batteries.

 - Original Message -
 From: Tom tclar...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout


 I'll give it a try when I install jaws, and have a sighted person to 
 point out the insert key. the layout, as far as the num pad, is 
 different then my pc


 -Original Message-
 From: Kimsan
 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:11 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

 Can you evoke insert 1 on the home row and use keyboard help?
 That's what I do when I am lost with a keyboard.


 Kimsan Song
 Access Technology Trainer
 www.BlindAccessTraining.com
 Toll-free
 1-877-774-7670


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tom
 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:09 AM
 To: jul
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop keyboard layout

 I just got a dell inspiron 6000 laptop, sent from a friend, and if 
 anyone out there uses one, I need help with the keyboard layout. I 
 can't locate certain keys For answers to frequently asked questions 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[Wayne Scott]

Well, someone with a little more expertise will have to help you.  I am 
running Vista.

Love Never fails.
- Original Message - 
From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network



Wayne,
Where is the save connection box. I have looked for this just after I have
connected with the network for the first time.
I am running Windows 7, 64 bit with Jaws 12.
I know that reconnecting is no big deal, but, I sure would like to know
this.

Thanks again,
Russ
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

I usually check the save connection box and that works fine.
Love Never fails.
- Original Message - 
From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network



Hi everyone,

I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence 
and



a
question.



In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop
set
up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again.
On
other cases, this has not worked.



Examples

After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found
the
checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.



On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network,
but,
when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
network, and could not set up this automatic feature.



One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
network.



Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
feature, or is there something I need to change.



Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Russ





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[David]

Hello there;
To have your laptop atomatically connect;
Do the following;

1, navigate to the CTRLPanel/net work and sharing 

2, now tab to the manage wireless networks link;
Press enter;

Here you should see your connection,
Press applications key, and enter on properties,
You will see the checkbox in the connections tab;
Connect automatically when this network is in range
Hope this helps.



-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

Well, someone with a little more expertise will have to help you.  I am 
running Vista.
Love Never fails.
- Original Message - 
From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network


 Wayne,
 Where is the save connection box. I have looked for this just after I have
 connected with the network for the first time.
 I am running Windows 7, 64 bit with Jaws 12.
 I know that reconnecting is no big deal, but, I sure would like to know
 this.

 Thanks again,
 Russ
 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
 Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:48 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

 I usually check the save connection box and that works fine.
 Love Never fails.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:17 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network


 Hi everyone,

 I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence 
 and

 a
 question.



 In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop
 set
 up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again.
 On
 other cases, this has not worked.



 Examples

 After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
 networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found
 the
 checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.



 On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network,
 but,
 when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
 network, and could not set up this automatic feature.



 One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
 network.



 Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
 feature, or is there something I need to change.



 Any ideas would be appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Russ





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[tim]

The wireless conection windows are the same in vista and win 7.

At 02:01 AM 4/9/2011, you wrote:
Well, someone with a little more expertise will have to help you.  I 
am running Vista.

Love Never fails.
- Original Message - From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network



Wayne,
Where is the save connection box. I have looked for this just after I have
connected with the network for the first time.
I am running Windows 7, 64 bit with Jaws 12.
I know that reconnecting is no big deal, but, I sure would like to know
this.

Thanks again,
Russ
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

I usually check the save connection box and that works fine.
Love Never fails.
- Original Message - From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network



Hi everyone,

I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence and



a
question.



In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop
set
up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again.
On
other cases, this has not worked.



Examples

After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found
the
checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.



On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network,
but,
when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
network, and could not set up this automatic feature.



One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
network.



Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
feature, or is there something I need to change.



Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Russ





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[Russ Hubley]

Thank you, David.
Great directions! My problem is that there are times when I go to the manage
wireless networks and the network I have just connected isn't there.
Right now, I have three networks in my manage wireless networks.
The other day, I used these same directions that someone sent me a few weeks
ago. and this worked perfectly.
That night, I connected with the network at the Laquinta Inn, just to see if
my problem was solved. With this network connected, I found that the network
did not appear in the manage wireless connections area. I found the same to
be true when we visited our Toyota dealership.

Is there something I need to adjust? David, this is not a must. I just am
interested in find out the answer.

Thanks to you, and other members of this group for your patience.

Russ
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 4:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

Hello there;
To have your laptop atomatically connect;
Do the following;

1, navigate to the CTRLPanel/net work and sharing 

2, now tab to the manage wireless networks link;
Press enter;

Here you should see your connection,
Press applications key, and enter on properties,
You will see the checkbox in the connections tab;
Connect automatically when this network is in range
Hope this helps.



-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 2:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

Well, someone with a little more expertise will have to help you.  I am 
running Vista.
Love Never fails.
- Original Message - 
From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network


 Wayne,
 Where is the save connection box. I have looked for this just after I have
 connected with the network for the first time.
 I am running Windows 7, 64 bit with Jaws 12.
 I know that reconnecting is no big deal, but, I sure would like to know
 this.

 Thanks again,
 Russ
 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
 Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:48 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

 I usually check the save connection box and that works fine.
 Love Never fails.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:17 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network


 Hi everyone,

 I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence 
 and

 a
 question.



 In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop
 set
 up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again.
 On
 other cases, this has not worked.



 Examples

 After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
 networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found
 the
 checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.



 On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network,
 but,
 when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
 network, and could not set up this automatic feature.



 One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
 network.



 Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
 feature, or is there something I need to change.



 Any ideas would be appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Russ





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[Wayne Scott]

I usually check the save connection box and that works fine.
Love Never fails.
- Original Message - 
From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network



Hi everyone,

I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence and 
a

question.



In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop 
set
up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again. 
On

other cases, this has not worked.



Examples

After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found 
the

checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.



On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network, 
but,

when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
network, and could not set up this automatic feature.



One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
network.



Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
feature, or is there something I need to change.



Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Russ





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[Russ Hubley]

Wayne,
Where is the save connection box. I have looked for this just after I have
connected with the network for the first time.
I am running Windows 7, 64 bit with Jaws 12.
I know that reconnecting is no big deal, but, I sure would like to know
this.

Thanks again,
Russ
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

I usually check the save connection box and that works fine.
Love Never fails.
- Original Message - 
From: Russ Hubley hubbor...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network


 Hi everyone,

 I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence and

 a
 question.



 In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop 
 set
 up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again. 
 On
 other cases, this has not worked.



 Examples

 After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
 networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found 
 the
 checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.



 On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network, 
 but,
 when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
 network, and could not set up this automatic feature.



 One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
 network.



 Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
 feature, or is there something I need to change.



 Any ideas would be appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Russ





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[JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[Russ Hubley]

Hi everyone,

I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence and a
question.

 

In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop set
up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again. On
other cases, this has not worked.

 

Examples

After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found the
checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.

 

On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network, but,
when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
network, and could not set up this automatic feature.

 

One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
network.

 

Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
feature, or is there something I need to change.

 

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Russ

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[Don Marang]

 Is that router configured not to broadcast it's SSID?  This is the 
name that should appear in the Connect to dialog.  If it does not, you 
will need to enter the SSID manually as well as it's pass phrase.  The 
other possibility is that the laptop is just too far away to make a 
connection.  It may be set up in a bad place or around something causing 
interference.  Try connecting with the laptop close to the router.  The 
best place to put a router is near the center of the house (or central 
to all of the areas you want wireless Internet)and up high.  
Microwaves,cordless phones, and neighbor's routers can cause 
interference.  Try to keep these items away from the router and laptop.  
Logging into the router and changing the wireless channel number can 
make a vig difference.  I think the channels go from 1 to 11.  Changing 
my router to channel 11 made a big improvement so that I no longer get 
drop outs.


*Don Marang*
Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org 
http://www.vinuxproject.org/
There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any 
real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I 
am working on things that matter.

-- Dean Kamen

On 4/7/2011 11:17 PM, Russ Hubley wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence and a
question.



In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop set
up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again. On
other cases, this has not worked.



Examples

After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found the
checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.



On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network, but,
when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
network, and could not set up this automatic feature.



One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
network.



Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
feature, or is there something I need to change.



Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Russ





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

[Russ Hubley]

Thank you, Don,
The signal strength here at the laquinta inn comes in as excellent. The name
I here is, LQ net.

The routers I was able to successfully set up for my computer to always
connect when in range are as follows
They are also in my manage wireless networks. Under properties, the checkbox
is checked concerning always connecting when in range.

My home router, (required a password) 
My son-in-law's router, also required a password
Our local computer shop, uncertain if this required a password.
All above connections were excellent.

Is there something I can adjust to take care of this issue?
Don, this is not a big deal, just kind of a challenge. As long as I just put
the laptop to sleep, it retains the wireless network connection.
Thanks again,
Russ

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Marang
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop automatically connecting to network

  Is that router configured not to broadcast it's SSID?  This is the 
name that should appear in the Connect to dialog.  If it does not, you 
will need to enter the SSID manually as well as it's pass phrase.  The 
other possibility is that the laptop is just too far away to make a 
connection.  It may be set up in a bad place or around something causing 
interference.  Try connecting with the laptop close to the router.  The 
best place to put a router is near the center of the house (or central 
to all of the areas you want wireless Internet)and up high.  
Microwaves,cordless phones, and neighbor's routers can cause 
interference.  Try to keep these items away from the router and laptop.  
Logging into the router and changing the wireless channel number can 
make a vig difference.  I think the channels go from 1 to 11.  Changing 
my router to channel 11 made a big improvement so that I no longer get 
drop outs.

*Don Marang*
Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org 
http://www.vinuxproject.org/
There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any 
real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I 
am working on things that matter.
-- Dean Kamen

On 4/7/2011 11:17 PM, Russ Hubley wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I have asked this question before, but I have some additional evidence and
a
 question.



 In three cases I was able to connect to a connection and have my laptop
set
 up to automatically reconnect to this network when I was in range again.
On
 other cases, this has not worked.



 Examples

 After successfully connecting to a network, I went to manage wireless
 networks link and found the network here. I went to properties and found
the
 checkbox checked which would always allow me to automatically reconnect.



 On two different occasions, I have successfully connected to a network,
but,
 when I went to the manage wireless networks, i did not find the current
 network, and could not set up this automatic feature.



 One of these was the Laquinta Inn and the other was our auto dealership
 network.



 Are there certain networks that do not allow you to use this automatic
 feature, or is there something I need to change.



 Any ideas would be appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Russ





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard

[Doris and Chris]

Intersting. I did not know that, thank you.

I most of the time have used my laptop with an external keyboard but 
having one with a numpad has made me consider using the inbuilt one. 
I'll see how it goes.


Thanks much.

Doris

At 09:39 PM 1/4/2011, you wrote:

I always use the laptop layout on my desktops and even with my laptop and a
full keyboard extention.

You can use the caps lock and both insert keys on the ten key for Jaws
function.
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard

besides capslock, won't JAWS laptop also recognize insert keys as JAWS
keys?

- Original Message -
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard


 On a laptop having a numpad and some but not all the extended keys, do
 i install jaws for the laptop or desktop keyboard layout?

 the extended insert on this laptop keyboard is accessed by using a
 function key and the delete key.

 Can jaws be set to use both the capslock and the insert keys as
 jawskey?

 thanks much.

 Doris



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard

[Janie Degenshein]

Yes and I believe the scroll is another option



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Access Tech Consultant
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-Original Message- 
From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:14 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard 

besides capslock, won't JAWS laptop also recognize insert keys as JAWS 
keys?


- Original Message - 
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard


On a laptop having a numpad and some but not all the extended keys, do 
i install jaws for the laptop or desktop keyboard layout?


the extended insert on this laptop keyboard is accessed by using a 
function key and the delete key.


Can jaws be set to use both the capslock and the insert keys as 
jawskey?


thanks much.

Doris



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[JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard

[Doris and Chris]

On a laptop having a numpad and some but not all the extended keys, 
do i install jaws for the laptop or desktop keyboard layout?


the extended insert on this laptop keyboard is accessed by using a 
function key and the delete key.


Can jaws be set to use both the capslock and the insert keys as jawskey?

thanks much.

Doris



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard

[Flor Lynch]

besides capslock, won't JAWS laptop also recognize insert keys as JAWS 
keys?


- Original Message - 
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard


On a laptop having a numpad and some but not all the extended keys, do 
i install jaws for the laptop or desktop keyboard layout?


the extended insert on this laptop keyboard is accessed by using a 
function key and the delete key.


Can jaws be set to use both the capslock and the insert keys as 
jawskey?


thanks much.

Doris



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard

[CrisMunoz54]

I always use the laptop layout on my desktops and even with my laptop and a
full keyboard extention. 

You can use the caps lock and both insert keys on the ten key for Jaws
function.
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard

besides capslock, won't JAWS laptop also recognize insert keys as JAWS 
keys?

- Original Message - 
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:37 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Laptop with Extended keyboard


 On a laptop having a numpad and some but not all the extended keys, do 
 i install jaws for the laptop or desktop keyboard layout?

 the extended insert on this laptop keyboard is accessed by using a 
 function key and the delete key.

 Can jaws be set to use both the capslock and the insert keys as 
 jawskey?

 thanks much.

 Doris



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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop doesn't show on AC power

[john R. Vaughn]

You could have a bad power cord or it is not properly attached.  Or the
battery could be really old or damaged and needs to be replaced.  thirdly,
the computer  has a problem charging and that is where the problem lies.  So
I would eliminate possible problems.
I would suggest you see if the power cord is working.
1. shut down the computer.
2. take the battery out of the computer.
3. be sure your power cord is properly attached to the computer and the wall
outlet and that this wall outlet works.  also be sure any other connections
in the power cord are attached.
4. turn on your computer now and if it boots up then you know your power
cord is working and you have another problem. 
good luck.
John
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
lmorris1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop doesn't show on AC power

My laptop is about four years old. Maybe that is the issue. However, in the
system tray instead of it saying on AC power it says 88 percent plugged in
not charging. This percentage keeps dropping. I tried unplugging the power
chord to let the battery run down and then plugging the power chord back in
to charge the battery but the percentage keeps dropping. What's going to
happen when the percentage get's to five percent or lower will the laptop
still work when the AC chord is plugged in?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop doesn't show on AC power

[Wayne Scott]

Sometimes you need to check the place where you connectt eh power cord to 
the laptop.  That connection might be loose.  Just push it in all the way 
and it should solve the problem.  HTH.  wayne
A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the 
bones.
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From: lmorris1...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:19 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop doesn't show on AC power


My laptop is about four years old. Maybe that is the issue. However, in 
the system tray instead of it saying on AC power it says 88 percent 
plugged in not charging. This percentage keeps dropping. I tried 
unplugging the power chord to let the battery run down and then plugging 
the power chord back in to charge the battery but the percentage keeps 
dropping. What's going to happen when the percentage get's to five percent 
or lower will the laptop still work when the AC chord is plugged in?

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[JAWS-Users] laptop doesn't show on AC power

[lmorris1953]

My laptop is about four years old. Maybe that is the issue. However, in the 
system tray instead of it saying on AC power it says 88 percent plugged in not 
charging. This percentage keeps dropping. I tried unplugging the power chord to 
let the battery run down and then plugging the power chord back in to charge 
the battery but the percentage keeps dropping. What's going to happen when the 
percentage get's to five percent or lower will the laptop still work when the 
AC chord is plugged in?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS

[Deanne Miller]

The caps lock key absolutely doubles as the jaws key on a laptop.  There is, 
though, a key on all of the laptops I have used, as well as my Acer netbook, 
that functions as a jaws key.  It is the second key in from the left on the 
bottom row of keys, just to the right of the control key.  Officially, I 
think it's called the function key, but don't quote me on that.  I have 
worked as a computer trainer/technician for about three years now, and I've 
found this key on all of the laptops  I have used, including my own. I have 
fouhnd that it performs very nearly all of the same functions as the caps 
lock key on a laptop. It's simply another option, that's all.

Deanne
-- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



This is one of many situations where using the expression JAWS key
may not be helpful.  I think it is preferable to call keys by their
standard names.  If you are using JAWS in its laptop configuration, the
so called JAWS key is actually the CAPS LOCK key, and I think it would
be more helpful to use that description.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS

Thank you, you taught me something new today because my insert key is
the
second key from the right across the top row.
- Original Message - 
From: Deanne Miller jawsstude...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Some laptops have an insert key, often on the top row, second key from

the

right.  Also, often there is a jaws key on the bottom row, second from

the

left, just to the right of the control key.  If you hold down the jaws



key, the nine keys, JKL, UIO, and 7 8 9, have the number pad

functions.

Holding down the caps lock key and pressing these keys performs other
reading functions.  Experiment with your laptop and see what happens.
Also, don't forget about Insert plus 1, keyboard help. You might
experiment with your laptop using keyboard help and learn how it
functions.  That's how I learned to use both of mine.
HTH
Deanne
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From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Check the help menu under updates.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Jaws Users,
I have been using my Dell 1545 laptop with an external number pad.

My

question to the list is what is the learning curve if I decided to

do

away with the external number pad and just use the keys on the

keyboard?

Is there any tutorials on this topic anywhere? I have Jaws 10 and my



windows is XP. thanks for all help offered on this matter. I thought

it

best to learn this while school is out for the summer.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS

[Ijemmer Ramos]

What do you mean? When you press that function key, that is the key to the 
right of the left control in combination with other keys, F12 for instance, 
does it say the time? Or if you press that key wit F11, does it  invoke the 
system tray thing? Is that what you mean by that being a JAWS key also? 
Because if that's what you mean, I can say that not all laptops behave like 
that so it would be quite confusing if you call that JAWS key by definition. 
But if I did not understand what you mean, kindly clarify your post here 
because it is really confusing to some. Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: Deanne Miller jawsstude...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS


The caps lock key absolutely doubles as the jaws key on a laptop.  There 
is, though, a key on all of the laptops I have used, as well as my Acer 
netbook, that functions as a jaws key.  It is the second key in from the 
left on the bottom row of keys, just to the right of the control key. 
Officially, I think it's called the function key, but don't quote me on 
that.  I have worked as a computer trainer/technician for about three 
years now, and I've found this key on all of the laptops  I have used, 
including my own. I have fouhnd that it performs very nearly all of the 
same functions as the caps lock key on a laptop. It's simply another 
option, that's all.

Deanne
-- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



This is one of many situations where using the expression JAWS key
may not be helpful.  I think it is preferable to call keys by their
standard names.  If you are using JAWS in its laptop configuration, the
so called JAWS key is actually the CAPS LOCK key, and I think it would
be more helpful to use that description.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS

Thank you, you taught me something new today because my insert key is
the
second key from the right across the top row.
- Original Message - 
From: Deanne Miller jawsstude...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Some laptops have an insert key, often on the top row, second key from

the

right.  Also, often there is a jaws key on the bottom row, second from

the

left, just to the right of the control key.  If you hold down the jaws



key, the nine keys, JKL, UIO, and 7 8 9, have the number pad

functions.

Holding down the caps lock key and pressing these keys performs other
reading functions.  Experiment with your laptop and see what happens.
Also, don't forget about Insert plus 1, keyboard help. You might
experiment with your laptop using keyboard help and learn how it
functions.  That's how I learned to use both of mine.
HTH
Deanne
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Check the help menu under updates.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Jaws Users,
I have been using my Dell 1545 laptop with an external number pad.

My

question to the list is what is the learning curve if I decided to

do

away with the external number pad and just use the keys on the

keyboard?

Is there any tutorials on this topic anywhere? I have Jaws 10 and my



windows is XP. thanks for all help offered on this matter. I thought

it

best to learn this while school is out for the summer.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS

[Ishe Chinyoka]

I think she refers that using this key behaves like JAWS key in most, but 
not all cases. On my laptop, it will do so for instance pressing the 
function key and the semicolon is like pressing the CAPSLOCK (acting as JAWS 
key) to make a plus (or a PC cursor).


The function key helps to turn the right side of the laptop keyboard into 
the numpad,  the function that the Capslock working as the JAWS key does so. 
However, pressing it with the F12 for time, I never tried that. I think you 
will need to first assign this key in your global keymap file for that.


However, I find using the function key for other tasks easier such as 
pressing it with the left arrow key to work as a HOME Key, with the right 
arrow key to make an END key, with the down arrow to make a PAGE Down etc.



- Original Message - 
From: Ijemmer Ramos ijemmerjo...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS


What do you mean? When you press that function key, that is the key to the 
right of the left control in combination with other keys, F12 for 
instance, does it say the time? Or if you press that key wit F11, does it 
invoke the system tray thing? Is that what you mean by that being a JAWS 
key also? Because if that's what you mean, I can say that not all laptops 
behave like that so it would be quite confusing if you call that JAWS key 
by definition. But if I did not understand what you mean, kindly clarify 
your post here because it is really confusing to some. Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: Deanne Miller jawsstude...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS


The caps lock key absolutely doubles as the jaws key on a laptop.  There 
is, though, a key on all of the laptops I have used, as well as my Acer 
netbook, that functions as a jaws key.  It is the second key in from the 
left on the bottom row of keys, just to the right of the control key. 
Officially, I think it's called the function key, but don't quote me on 
that.  I have worked as a computer trainer/technician for about three 
years now, and I've found this key on all of the laptops  I have used, 
including my own. I have fouhnd that it performs very nearly all of the 
same functions as the caps lock key on a laptop. It's simply another 
option, that's all.

Deanne
-- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



This is one of many situations where using the expression JAWS key
may not be helpful.  I think it is preferable to call keys by their
standard names.  If you are using JAWS in its laptop configuration, the
so called JAWS key is actually the CAPS LOCK key, and I think it would
be more helpful to use that description.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS

Thank you, you taught me something new today because my insert key is
the
second key from the right across the top row.
- Original Message - 
From: Deanne Miller jawsstude...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Some laptops have an insert key, often on the top row, second key from

the

right.  Also, often there is a jaws key on the bottom row, second from

the

left, just to the right of the control key.  If you hold down the jaws



key, the nine keys, JKL, UIO, and 7 8 9, have the number pad

functions.

Holding down the caps lock key and pressing these keys performs other
reading functions.  Experiment with your laptop and see what happens.
Also, don't forget about Insert plus 1, keyboard help. You might
experiment with your laptop using keyboard help and learn how it
functions.  That's how I learned to use both of mine.
HTH
Deanne
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Check the help menu under updates.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Josh lawdog...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] LAPTOP KEYS WITH JAWS



Jaws Users,
I have been using my Dell 1545 laptop with an external number pad.

My

question to the list is what is the learning curve if I decided to

do

away with the external number pad and just use the keys on the

keyboard?

Is there any tutorials on this topic anywhere? I have Jaws 10 and my



windows is XP. thanks for all help offered on this matter. I