KR> Rotary Anyone?
> > Here's the bible for rotary engines. > > http://rotaryeng.net/ Could not go without chiming in here. After having been around the rotary world for a while and building a rotary for aviation use myself, most people in the rotary word work consider Paul Lamar to be a flake who only "borrows" other peoples ideas and claims them for himself. Your best bet to get real world, honest, ideas about rotary engines here: http://www.rotaryaviation.com/ Dana Overall 3 time National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:14:40 -0800 > From: gtme...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: KR> Rotary Anyone? > To: kr...@mylist.net > > Here's the bible for rotary engines. > > http://rotaryeng.net/ > > > > From: Barrett > To: 'KRnet' > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:10 PM > Subject: KR> Rotary Anyone? > > As I was going back thru my back issues of KITPLANE magazine (Feb 2011), I > saw another article on the rotary engine. It got me thinking, so I am doing > a bit of research on the engine right now and was wondering if anyone on the > list had any experience with these? The one website ( > http://www.rotaryeng.net/index.html )I went to has a TON of information on > it and I'm currently wading thru all of that. > Thanks, Barrett SLC, UT > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Encapsulating
Thanks guys, I knew some on this list would have the answer. Oscar also emailed me off the list and relayed that alcohol works well with water, which is in all but the driest of all wood. You can buy thinned epoxy for this this purpose http://www.epoxyproducts.com/esp155.html but I don't need it by the gallon yet. Alcohol it is...then add some rubbing alcohol to epoxy.it that order!!;-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: phillipmathe...@bigpond.com > I have been using what your guys over there call rubbing alcohol ( > Mentholated Spirits) for years with great effect, in sealing timber, filling > pin holes, etc.
KR> Encapsulating
Hey gang, I'm working on a new wood project that won't take to the air but it should fly across the water.anyway, I need to encapsulate all the frames and such. What are the current thoughts on how to thin epoxy to get a good flow? Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Fun Friday
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:17:43 -0700 > From: jeffyor...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: KR> Fun Friday > To: kr...@mylist.net > > DANA on your pool table that is one expensive looking work bench > brother. Hey ! great seeing you at diner the other night. But Jeff, the plans called for a flat work bench.. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Fun Friday
Hey gang, long time off the net but haven't been just sitting around twittering my thumbs. Here is the progress of my new project: http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/5524/rv10g.jpg Hum, I need a bigger basement.. I ended up with a good price on the kit so I thought, what the heck, might as well be doing something to keep busy. OK!! We used to do Fun Friday where we could post anything as long as it wasn't inflammatory and was about aviation so don't whip me with a wet noodle... Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> gathering
> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:14:35 + > From: kr2coo...@comcast.net Just happened to think that we did not pass the hat for contributions for the next gathering so Dana, tell us what to do. Can we send a contribution to the KR Gathering fund to help prepare for the next gathering? Who do we make a check to and what address do we send it to? Paypal maybe?? > > Jack Cooper Jack, and others, we are fine financially with gathering funds. No need to donate further. I will be getting hold of those who did not attend but ordered shirts and hats and get those out. Thanks to all those who attended. From what I heard you all enjoyed the gathering as much as Kelly and I did. Thanks for all the nice comments and see everybody at SNF, Oshkosh or at next years gathering in Mt. Vernon. Larry..you've had your break...now time to get back to work:-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Let the fun begin!!
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:19:43 -0400 > Subject: Re: KR> Let the fun begin!! > From: newfygoo...@gmail.com What time > Saturday will all the activities and forms start. Due to late arrival I may > be napping in vehicle at sunrise. (any problems...security wise?) > Activities usually start.not long after daybreak:-) We are going to start the forum noonish. No security problems sleeping in the vehicle. I'm at the airport right now, registration table is set upcome on gang.let the fun begin WOOO HOOO! Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> i39 is Left Traffic!!!!!!!
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:51:59 + > From: rcollin...@frontiernet.net > Dana, > am I missing something? everything I see published shows standard left hand pattern. > thanks, > > Riley Collins > Rutledge, TN Yes, my bad I needed to have my second cup of coffee before I posted thatLEFT TRAFFIC, LEFT TRAFFIC, LEFT TRAFFIC!! Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Let the fun begin!!
Woo Hoo, it's time for fun flying and friends again. It looks like the local weather is going to cooperate except for Saturday evening. We are looking at highs of 77-82 for the entire weekend with lows at night in the mid 50's. It looks like we can plan on some rain as a cold front comes through Saturday evening. The remnants of the tropical storm that hit TX looks like it is going to remain north and west of us on Friday night. All in all, it looks like we just move the party inside on Saturday night. You campers, the FBO is changing hands in one month so some things are not getting done around the airport...one is the car access code controlled auto gate to the grounds so just plan on parking in the parking lot and carrying your stuff, which will not be very far. This is going to cause the biggest problem for anyone wanting electricity. We do have access to the FBO and the bathroom. Anyone flying in, not in a KR, plan on using the main ramp tiedowns. If you fly a KR in, we are going to base our operations around the center large hangar on the south side of the ramp. They will be re stacking the hangar early this afternoon to make room for the KR. The ramp on that side is off the main part of the ramp and will allow us to mil around and stay off the main rampkinda give us our own little piece of the ramp. Again, fly safe. This is a unicom frequency airport so obey the rules of the road and remember, we are out in the woods and do not have airvac helicopters, fire trucks or emergency personnel on site. I, nor we the KR crowd, will in any way control the arrivals or departures. We may monitor, we may not but we will not control nor advise arriving or departing traffic on an official basis. Fly safe, we all know the rules of the road. The frequencies are 122.8 and AWOS 119.625 See all you early arrivals around noon today for the official start of the KR Gathering on Friday Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Weather-now radio?
> I spoke with Ray Fuenzalida from New Orleans today. Were all lined up to > make the trip tomorrow, so we'll see you guys and gals Thursay evening > some time. Is someone monitoring the radio for incoming? > > -- > Glenn Martin Glenn, I don't know what time you will be coming in but this is a unicom airport. The FBO closes at 5PM and monitors 122.8 with a continuous AWOS 119.625. Another local AWOS is at DVK 128.325. Fly safe and if you don't get a reply, fly the pattern as published (right hand traffic) as you do at any unicom airport. After you land, you land you will see this is not a large airport..you won't have any problem finding us. Any non KR's use the main the ramp tiedowns. All KR's, after you landtaxi to the two large hangars to the right as you come off the taxiways. I have some things to do in the office...clients still want their payrolls done even during the KR Gathering...so I won't be at the airport until noonish. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 23:16:17 -0500 > I spoke with Ray Fuenzalida from New Orleans today. Were all lined up to > make the trip tomorrow, so we'll see you guys and gals Thursay evening > some time. Is someone monitoring the radio for incoming? > > -- > Glenn Martin > Biloxi, MS, 39532 > rep...@martekmississippi.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Weather
> From: adamwhi...@gmail.com > > Last week I attended my first EAA meeting at i39 in the hopes of meeting > some KR folks before the gathering and to ask some questions. Nobody at the > meeting knew about the KR Gathering. ;-) They were quite glad I came and > told them about it. OK gang enough is enough.I was at the airport today going over the final details of the gathering. The manager of the FBO and I walked the grounds to finalize the camping arrangements, the availability of tables & chairs, hangar access, vehicle access, food, snacks. fuel, tiedowns, bathrooms and the entire list of things we have been going over the last couple of months. The local EAA is a group of people of for the most part, no long pilots and like to get together to talk about the golden days of flyingas in why in the world to we need radios.I actually did not provide them with info for a reason, oh well!! The place knows about the gathering, I can't help the EAA doesn't or some line boy who works 1 day every three weeks doesn't know about the gathering. Can you tell I've had enough of this??? The place knows we are coming and is waiting with open arms. Be safe and see everyone shortly. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Weather
Gary, I don't know who you talked to but the powers that be know all about the gathering and are lined up to pitch in with a helping hand. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: flyk...@charter.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Fw: KR> Weather > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:13:20 -0500 > > > > We are here now...WX is nice > > But the airport people know nothing about the Gathering? > > They even called people off siteno one knows we are coming? > > Gary > > > On Sep 8, 2010, Mark Jones wrote: > > Ok all you KR Gathering fans. Please start praying to the KR Gods for good > weather. > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Stevens Point, WI > E-mail: flyk...@charter.net > Web: www.flykr2s.com > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> flight plan
> From: joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com > Dana, > I was trying to flight plan the trip and was gooing to use PooDunk Ky as a way point but I couldn't find it are you sure that it isn't in West Virginia. > See ya Jeppeson hasn't loaded it into their database yet...try bearwaller..it's closeby... Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> KR Gathering....BRING A FOLDING CHAIR!!!
EVERYBODY..BRING A FOLDING CHAIR.BRING A FOLDING CHAIR..BRING A FOLDING CHAIR...BRING A FOLDING CHAIR!! If you didn't get the drift of this email may I repeat myselfEVERYBODY.Bring a folding chair,..they sell the little cloth folding one's for $10 at Wally World. See you early arrivals tomorrow!!!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Gathering forums
> From: erickelshei...@att.net > Yes, Root Beer preference is a good question. What is the general all around favorite of the people who are going to be there? A. B. is my choice but then I like dark beer over the clear stuff any day. Eric Von Kelsheimer Clinton, Indiana 47842 As the host, I do reserve some veto power:-).AB it is and thanks for being the root beertender. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Gathering
Mark, as Jeff said, the military base is east of I-75. I will have a pilots briefing to go over that area. They just do not want you loitering over the depot, you can fly over it as long as you simply maintain legal altitudes over populated areas. With that said, again they do not really want you flying circles over the nerve gas bunkers!! In my pilot briefing I will bring it up forcefully...simply stay north/south of the airport and stay west of I-75 over all the unpopulated area and have all the fun flying you want. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: flyk...@charter.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:58:28 -0500 > Subject: KR> Gathering > > Dana, > I was just looking at the sectional and just northeast of I39 there is an > area which states "For reasons of national security pilots are requested to > avoid flight below 5000' AGL in this area". It shows bunkers on the > sectional. What is out there? > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Stevens Point, WI > E-mail: flyk...@charter.net > Web: www.flykr2s.com > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Gathering forums
Just for a point of reference, as of right now we will have forums on Saturday only. That leaves Friday for just hanging out and playing with airplanes. As of right now we are having forums on: KR Mods Engines Composites Mixture meter Metal As for beverage..this is the important onewho is bringing the root beer!!! That is a serious question, is the root beer taken care of?? Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Directions
> Netters, > > Is ayone going to post on the KR Grathering web page directions from LEX Airport to the Country Inn and Suites? > > Jim Morehead > N522PC Mapquest say: http://tiny.cc/cfhdv Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Re:Gathering Forums
Yes, there is a portable compressor and room suitable for power point. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: smw...@md.metrocast.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:58:05 -0400 > Subject: KR> Re:Gathering Forums > > The Mixture Meter presentation has been updated with new info from this past > year including AirVenture 10. I will also have a digital mixture meter > available for show & tell. The vendor estimates 100 to 500 hour life for > their sensor using leaded fuel. > > As requested, I will bring a KR-2 main wheel with a Lamb tire and tube for > demo on how to pinch a tube, or not. > > Dana, do you have a room suitable for power point presentations? How about > compressed air to pump up a tire? > > Sid Wood > Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 > Mechanicsville, MD, USA > smw...@md.metrocast.net > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Gathering
They may end up in two hangars, but all KR's will be hangared at night. Come one come all, I am giving the catering and the shirt/hat vendor the final numbers tomorrow. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: flyk...@charter.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:21:15 -0500 > Subject: KR> Gathering > > Dana, > What accommodations do we have for the KR's? Do we need to bring our own tie > downs or will we be hangared at night? > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Stevens Point, WI > E-mail: flyk...@charter.net > Web: www.flykr2s.com > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> KR2 VS RV8
> MAN! I got a chance to fly an RV-8 yesterday. It felt as NATURAL as > can be, Easy and responsive. I have yet to be able to fly a KR2. Can > anyone tell me how the KR compares to the RV in its flight characteristics? > > Thanks. > See y'all at the Gathering!-- > > Glenn Martin > KR2 N1333A Glenn, having spent some hours in both KRs and RVs I do think you need to take a couple things into comparison. The RV is a much heavier airplane than the KR which gives it a little more stable feel in cruise and rough conditions. The pitch in a standard KR-2S is a little lighter, the pitch in a stock KR-2 is even a little bit more light but both airplanes are finger tip flying airplanes. Point them where you want them to go, don't try and coheres either of these airplanes, they don't need heavy inputs. From what I have seen the roll characteristics of these two airplanes is quite different. Remember, the airframe of all RV's are built pretty much alike so the flight characteristics in roll are pretty reliable between airplanes, pitch can be different due to weight, CG etc. The RV roll rate is quicker in my experience than a KR, whatever the reason is, I don't know but the coordination between elevator and aileron in an RV feel pretty much the same. You can see a half deflection roll rate of my RV-7 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLWjPt2gpR0 A loop and roll taken from a video camera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V11syYF08QI I know several people on this list have some RV time,ie., Dan, so I'm sure they will chime in. Two weeks and counting for the gathering Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> Fire Extinguisher ???
I would recommend this read: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=31963&highlight=Fire+Extinguisher See everybody in couple of weeks. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> KR Gathering Rooms
> From: flyk...@charter.net > >"and really if you want to see a world class event...as in much bigger in > >the world's eyes than the Super Bowl" > > Dana, > What are the dates of this event? Does it clash with ours? Are there any > possibilities of a TFR during the KR Gathering? > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) The actual start date is the following week, there are no TFR's. Most of the local airports received substantial federal monies for upgrades to facilities and runways, kinda a facelift for the million plus people that are expected to arrive in, and around, LEX for the event. I39 just got it's new parallel taxiway completed and is putting off the addition of 500' and repaving the entire runway until after the event. The only restriction to flying is the army base to the east of I75, not a no fly zone you just don't want to buzz the place. The airport is out in the boonies so we can play about as much as we want, especially to the west and south. I'll have a pilot meeting probably on Friday. As for something to do, if someone want to, would be to do a bourbon trial search on google for in and around Lexington Ky. The heart of bourbon country takes you through some of the most beautiful horse farm country you will ever see. It is still beautiful to see for me, and I've lived here all my life!! Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive
KR> KR Gathering Rooms
Gang, as I mentioned very early on in the process, the World Equestrian Games are coming to Lexington...and I encourage anyone who wants to bug out for a couple of hours to check out the thoroughbred horse farms to do so, the room rates in this area are in the range of $300 per night so let's take what we have, and really if you want to see a world class event...as in much bigger in the world's eyes than the Super Bowl, take in some of the horse events during the gathering times. We are not in podunk, KY;-) The houses in my area are renting out for around 3K for the week.anyone else want to host the gathering so I rent this place out and go on vacation;-). Hey, we have an inexpensive deal going on...come on spend an extra $15 bucks and have some fun and the gathering!!! Looking big time forward to see old friends and pending new ones, there is nothing like the KR Gathering for getting up close to these great airplanes!! Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive , it > From: da...@windstream.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering Rooms > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 20:17:56 -0400 > > Yes, that is the same silly story that I got. I thought that Dana was going > to be able to do something about that. I actually had to get two > reservations, one for Thursday, and the other for the rest of it. Never had > this happen at any of our Gathering locations. I can't imagine their being > that busy on a Thursday night that they would want to turn down business. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying > has begun. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > -Original Message- > > I just called to book a room for T, F, S night and was told the > discount is only good for Friday and Saturday night. Is that the > same story you all got or did I just get hold of the wrong > person? > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Richmond
Douglas and anyone else. I certainly did not see your email, I only check this account for KRNet. Yes, I am in the new wave era of having my business email push to my smart phone but this account does not. Anyway, there is not fee for camping, no you do not have to fly in to camp, there is one shower and 3-4 bathrooms, I am putting off ordering the shirts until I get a firm number as this will determine the price...which are pretty much sold at costthe price is going to be minimal. Same thing with the banquet, I need a firm number..which I am getting ready to stop the registration here in about week or so and then I will be able to come up with a firm price. Remember gang, this gathering has always been and will continue to be the most inexpensive flyin you can attend...plus it is dedicated to the airplane you are building, break out the pocket change and register!!! See everybody shortly Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: db...@hotmail.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 00:14:33 -0400 > Subject: KR> Richmond > > > Hello all. > > I am building a KR2Sin eastern Ohio and hope to make it to the KR Gathering. > I have emailed Dana regarding these questions, but not received any response: > > Is there a fee for camping at the airport? > Do I have to fly in to camp there? > Are there showers? > Is there a fee for the KR Gathering itself? > How much are the t-shirts? > Cost of dinner? > > Really would like to know. > Thanks, > Douglas cooke > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> gathering camping
Eric and all. There are a couple of outdoor hookups for electric. Root beer.now what kind of question is that;-)...only kidding, yes we will be partaking in the consumption of... Now with that said we will simply be camping beside one of the main hangars, it is nothing like Mt. Vernon accomadations more like just a flat piece of ground next to the hangar we can all hang out at. For those planning on camping, really do plan on primitive camping or reserve one of the rooms. I think we all know there are very few airports around that have such a great place to camp as Mt. Vernon. Countdown continues!!! Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 17:34:46 -0400 > From: eric.pi...@starband.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> gathering camping > > Dana, does the air port have trailer hookups for elec? And do they allow > root beer on site? > > > > Eric Pitts > Terre Haute Ind. > http://eric.pitts.mystarband.net > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving > safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in > sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out > and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> KR GATHERING
All I can say is WOO HOO, things are coming together nicely for another unforgettable KR Gathering. Come one, come all. If you are interested in KRs, this is the time and place to get up close and personal with both the airplane and the names on this list!! If you have not registered for your hat, shirt or banquet, please do so quickly as I will be placing the order with the vendor in the very, very, very near future. Mark, keep up the good work with the countdown, we all rely on you every year for this. Remember, register if you are planning on coming. It helps us only spend the correct amount of money and not waste any so we can pass as much as we can to the host. When I first hosted two gatherings, the host had to pretty much put up the couple K's to the get the gathering going out of our own pocket. That has changed as we have moved forward..we want to keep it that way so we can provide the best gathering possibleplease registeras Mark sayis only 39 days now before the big event!!!!! Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: flyk...@charter.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> KR GATHERING > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:02:45 -0500 > > Dana, > Do you have any updates on the Gathering? > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Stevens Point, WI > E-mail: flyk...@charter.net > Web: www.flykr2s.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> Re: KRnet Digest-Mark's landing
Here is a short blurb I copied from a fellow racers: There were two mechanicals, with a Lancair 360 having a failed starter solenoid at the start, and a KR doing a precautionary landing for an unusual smell in the cockpit. The KR landed in case it was a smoke-like smell, but it had disappeared quickly, and after checking the airplane out, he continued and finished, with no further incident. The start crew stayed with the Lancair, helped him swap his solenoid, then launched him and followed in the support plane to Fon Du Lac. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:19:57 -0400 > From: twja...@tolr.org > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 352, Issue 204 > > > Hi, Congratulations! to Mark. > what does the 'fuel stop' note mean? > Tommy James > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3
KR> Air venture Cup Race
Here are the class and speed results from the race. Great job Mark!! 177.99mph race # class Pilot speed mph T unlimiteLancair 4 Paul/Pam Tackabury 344.59 23 legacy Mark Patey 320.82 104 turbine legend Marty Abbott401.09 11 lancair4p Walter Bestgen 349.60 007 legend Rene Dugas 309.27 30 sport sx300 Harry Hinckley 312.36 9 questairTony Crawford 300.82 89 sx300 Stan Musick 289.40 75 glasair3Sarah Bean 287.27 10 sx300 Keith Phillips 279.27 60 sx300 James Ciansi278.07 80 seawind Keith Walljasper 180.68 51 seawind Mike Reibling 174.58 05sport lx legacy Lee Behel 331.16 77 " Scott Alair 299.49 52 " Jim Thomas 287.64 2 " Alan Crawford 278.92 109 sport fxrocket Tom Martin 262.21 cf rocket Mark Frederick 244.72 43 rocket 6Bob MIlls 244.57 14 rocket Wayne Hadath241.06 38 formular rg bluelance360Mark Quinn 240.40 44 lance360Rick Argentt234.55 777 formular rg red lancair320 Craig Schulze 229.69 45 " Bill Rossman215.77 91 form fx blueglasair1Bruce/Steve Hammer 255.74 37 form fx red tailwindRed Hamilton 223.01 46 cozymx Jeff Mallia 221.14 93 longeze Rich Lamb 210.17 86 sidewinder Dave Biesemeier 201.09 61 Mustang2Tim Bovee 189.97 99 longeze Kerry Fritz 181.79 41 RVgold RV-4Dave Anders 240.58 18 RV-8John Huft 232.42 27 rvblue rv-8Jon Ross217.51 12 rv-8Allan Carroll 210.57 21 rv-7a Tom Moore 207.11 71 rv-6a Bob Axsom 206.94 96 rv-4`Doug Shoup 204.43 8 rv-7John Mullany202.18 39 rv7aJean Pierre Vedier 194.29 34 rvred rv-4Chris Murphy199.09 63 rv-3Bob Vasey 196.98 111 sprint varieze Klaus Savier241.47 22 quicki Sam Hoskins 202.15 83 longeze David Adams 198.53 90 lance235Dennis Collins 188.52 98 MM1 John Keich 175.56 fuel stop 3 sprint lsa kitfox Lynn Matteson 106.92 64 sportsman sonerai Jeff Lange 183.06 fuel stop 156 sportsman krkr2 Mark Langford 177.99 fuel stop Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3
KR> KR Gathering
Thanks Mark. Pre-registering for shirts, hats, banquet, attendance allows me to order the correct number of each item and allows me to have the caterer prepare the right amount of food for the banquet. I realize some will attend at the last minute, but if you are going to attend, please do us in the KR community the courtesy of RSVPing, it helps in being able to allocate the right amount of funds, which came entirely from the close knit KR community. The plans are coming together nicely for another fantastic, you don't want to miss, National KR Gathering. Put it on your calender, make your pre registration and let's get together for another one of those, you don't want to miss gatherings. See all my old friends here shortly. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: flyk...@charter.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:32:52 -0500 > Subject: KR> KR Gathering > > Pre-Register. Yes, we need you to pre-register for the gathering and the > sooner the better so Dana can make preparations. If you have not > pre-registered PLEASE do it ASAP. Click on the following link then click on > Pre-Registration: http://krgathering.org/ > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Stevens Point, WI > E-mail: flyk...@charter.net > Web: www.flykr2s.com > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
KR> KR Gathering pre registration.
> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:43:23 -0400 > Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering pre registration. > From: eric.pi...@starband.net > I may have miss this if so sorry. But what were the prices of the shirts > and hats? And was there any pic's of them? > > -- > Eric Pitts > Terre Haute Ind. > http://eric.pitts.mystarband.net Eric, when I get a good number I will be able to get a firm price from the vendor but just count on the cost being pretty much what it has been the past couple of years. We are not in the money making business by selling hat and shirts, more to give the attendees a nice shirt/hat to wear. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
KR> KR Gathering pre registration.
I'm going to be posting this note regularly in order to get a good count on who will be attending the gathering. I need a good hard figure on shirts, hats and banquet ticket so if you planning on attending would you please go to http://krgathering.org/ and pre register. This really does help in saving money by ordering the correct number of shirts and gives the catering a good solid figure on how much food to bring...and most importantly how much to charge us. Big thanks goes to Bob Lee for hosting the gathering website Please take a moment and pre register. Thanks Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
KR> New airplane build
> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:45:16 -0700 > From: lah...@yahoo.com > Thanks for the update, now we know what to expect at the Gathering Dana, a > whatchamacallit by Dana ! like the rest of ours LOL > Larry Howell Oh, Larry I forgot to mention it will be a little taller too;-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1
KR> New airplane build
> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:22:39 -0700 > From: lah...@yahoo.com > Dana, > Which airplane are you building now? or is it a secret? > Larry H. Larry, how bout it's a KR variant but different, a little longer, a little wider a bigger engine.just kinda a little bigger to meet my needs. The good thing about building my KR and then my RV-7 is I have a pretty good idea of what I want.now:-) Let the intrigue begin:-).heck, it should be pretty obvious I enjoy the build process. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5
KR> A Ride To The KR Thing Of Dana's
Just real quick, I gasp when I saw someone wanted a ride to "Berea" 05KY. This little grass strip is on a guys farm and was to be used by the local untralight guys.no way you want to even think about trying to get into this postage stamp. Remember, the National KR Gathering will be held at Richmond/Madison i39. Things are coming together nicely, see everyone soon. BTW, I should have some progress to show at the gathering of my new airplane build....... Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: n5...@hiwaay.net > To: jrfree...@highland.net; kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> A Ride To The KR Thing Of Dana's > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:05:58 -0500 > CC: > > James Freeman wrote: > > >I have been wanting to see Your airplane for a long time and talk to > > You > > about the Corvair Engine and several other topics. If You are alone,can I > > get a ride to Richmond, KY and then to Berea,KY?I am a ex-military > > Aviator(2086 Hrs.). MY weight on my scales 118 Lbs. dressed. My local > > airport K181 Pine Knot,KY. I will pay my share to top Your tanks or bring > > road gas, We still have a few stations that sell the good gas in the area. > > Given that I now fly a time machine, I can handle the 52 nm trip from 18I > (Pine Knot) to I39 (Richmond) with no problem (a 22 minute flight), but 05KY > (Berea) is a total non-starter with that 1270' runway and 50' trees 100' > from the end of the runway. I'd never even touch the ground before I hit > something solid at that place! You'd have to find another way to make that > 6.7 nautical mile trip...I'd suggest getting a ride from the guy on the > other end. But if it's anything like the terrain at Fontana Dam, it might > be a 50 mile drive! > > At 138 pounds, I thought I was the lightest KR pilot these days, but you'd > take the cake on that one. Just make sure you're not taller than 5'-10" or > so and you're good for a ride at the Gathering. Given the number of > military hours of flying you have, I won't worry about an airsick bag. > You'll have to hold my drink on takeoffs and landings though... > > Mark Langford > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5
KR> Surprise! FCC Mandates Prohibition of 121.5 MHz ELTs]
Before everyone jumps on the bandwagon on beating out chests:-), btw, thanks Eric for bring this forward but there has already been a tremendous amount of work done for clarification of the proposed rule change by the FCC: Update from the Aircraft Electronics Association website: http://www.aea.net/governmentaffairs...item.asp?ID=43 The August date listed in the AEA Regulatory Update June 21, is the absolute earliest date the FCC rule could have become effective. Thanks to the efforts of the AOPA, the AEA and other trade associations, the final rule has not been submitted to the Federal Register for publication; therefore, the 60-day clock for implementation of the rule has not begun. As such, at this time, there is no way of knowing if or when this rule will become final. The FCC has clarified that the rule is targeting legacy TSO C91a type ELTs, which operate primarily on 121.5 MHz, not the general use of frequency 121.5 MHz as the rule implies. Current TSO C126 ELTs are not affected by this ruling. While the AEA encourages its membership not to sell C91a ELTs to customers without them knowing the latest ruling of the FCC, there is no immediate regulatory need for operators to upgrade their legacy C91a ELTs to the more modern C126 ELTs. For safety reasons, the AEA continues to encourage operators to upgrade their ELTs to the modern C126 ELT. Operators of the legacy C91a ELTs should be made aware the usefulness of their ELTs is very limited, as the justification for the FCC ruling indicates, and most likely will not provide the search-and-rescue capabilities they might expect. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 04:29:31 -0400 > From: eric.pi...@starband.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Surprise! FCC Mandates Prohibition of 121.5 MHz ELTs] > > > > I read this today. Hopefully they will fix this. > > JUNE 24, 2010 > Surprise! FCC Mandates Prohibition of > 121.5 MHz ELTs > In a report that came out under the radar on June 1, the FCC slipped in > a stunning mandate. Section (h) of the executive summary of the report > reads "We prohibit the certification, manufacture, importation, sale or > continued use of 121.5 MHz emergency locator transmitters > (ELTs) other than the Breitling Emergency Watch ELT." Bravo for > Breitling, but what about the rest of us? U.S. pilots all know that > satellite monitoring of 121.5 signals was discontinued in 2009, but they > are still acceptable to the FAA ? just not the FCC, effective in August. > That allows two months' compliance time, and even if every GA aircraft > owner took immediate action, it would still be impractical to convert > all U.S.-registered aircraft that quickly. The report took the Aircraft > Electronics Association by surprise, too. And as AOPA's vice president > of regulatory affairs Rob Hackman said, "When two government agencies > don't coordinate, GA can suffer." AOPA also proposed that the FCC did > not sufficiently understand the implications of its ruling, in part > because the agency suggested aircraft operators would "migrate" to the > newer 406 MHz ELTs only if the older technology ELTs were > rendered illegal to use by FCC fiat. > > > -- > Eric Pitts > Terre Haute Ind. > http://eric.pitts.mystarband.net > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving > safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in > sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out > and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5
KR> dropped seat up-date
Joe, great write up. Glad everything worked out in getting her on the ground. Your observations and reflections on what you had seen is as valuable information as I have seen on the KRNet. Good stuff Joe, get her back flying soon. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:31:24 + > To: kr...@mylist.net; corvaircr...@mylist.net > CC: > Subject: KR> dropped seat up-date > > Good Morning Guys, > As most of you may know On my way to landing at the Virginia Regional Fly Inn > I suffered a engine malfunction. While the engine was indeed running rough, I > was able to quickly identify the cylinder that was in-distress and made > several tries at correcting the problem from cockpit controls by varying > throttle and mixture. I was still producing power and was able to accelerate > and climb. I made the decision to land normal nd not screw u the pattern that > was very busy. I was able to taxi to a parking spot and shut down all with > out anyone else being aware that I had a issue. > On the ground it was determined that there was no compression at all in > the center passenger side cylinder. > I made the decision to truck N357CJ home. > This brings us to the forensics of the problem. I did a static leak > test and found it to be a full leak thru the intake. I also could see the > valve seat thru the spark plug hole. I pulled the head off and was able to > see exactly what was suspected. The valve seat had come completely out and > turned some what sideways and the valve had beat the seat into the head. As i > understand this is something that happens to the corvair occasionally. >The most important information i am leading up to here are the signs > that I pretty much ignored that might have prevented as much damage and > certainly saved a $1000 in travel expenses. >A couple weeks before the trip to Virginia i had changed the spark > plugs. The actual event of the valve seat becoming loose may or may not have > happened either right before i changed plugs or the very next flight after. > In any case I did not notice the temperature change until the first flight > after changing the plugs. The front cylinder on the right bank had a higher > temp than normal by 20 to 30 deg. The middle cylinder head temp was lower by > 90 to 100 deg and the rear cylinder head temp was normal. I had put this > info out on the net and got a couple responses that I had not considered and > that was that I may have damaged the temp sensors. I had not thought that I > damaged them but became more nonchalant about the problem. The other thing > was that i had more trouble getting consistent exhaust temps. And in fact the > entire bank of temps would switch from one bank to the other as far as the > high exhaust temps with changes in throttle settings and even change when > sett at one setting for 3 or 4 minutes at a time. >I present this information for everyone else to learn from.. I have a > full set of instruments to draw information from. I did not properly process > the information I received from them. For those that do not have full sensors > I believe that you are putting yourself at a disadvantage to start with but > would give you an excuse for not realizing a problem. For the pilots that do > have full engine monitoring i would strongly encourage vigilance in > processing the information that is presented. I should have verified the > probes were indeed faulty or not. Then I would have known that something was > amiss. I still may not have known what so I am saying now that if you > experience a low cylinder head temp that can not be changed by throttle > settings or mixture changes you should certainly consider that you may be on > the way to loosing a valve seat. > As a side note I burn 100ll all the time. when i had the heads off at > 280 hours there was a very thick build up of lead on the entire combustion > chamber. At this time there is over 200 hours on the cleaned up combustion > chamber. There is again a lead deposit but not near a bad. More like 20% as > much as it was 2 years ago. The difference is only that i have been using > Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel. Not by any means a scientific test nor am I > encouraging the use. Merely stating that I am trying it and it seems to make > difference. The worst part of the lead is that it is attaching to the valves > and
KR> KR Gathering rooms available for reservations
Dan, no need to "challenge" our host hotel over a couple bucks. I'm sure you got the standard response from the person at the front desk. This, I am certain, can be easily rectified on Monday when I make a call to corporate sales. Remember, this time of the year is going to be a financial bonanza with the World Equestrian Games coming to Lexington. Homes in Richmond are renting for $3,000.00 per week...the week following our gathering. Let's not individually rock the boat, let me make the call. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: da...@windstream.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering rooms available for reservations > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:55:10 -0400 > > Great, got my reservation. However, I will warn you. If you want to come > in on Thursday, you will have to make two reservations because Thursday is > outside the block and costs more. I am going to call in the morning and > speak to the manager to see what I can do about that. > > Dana, tell me the name of the other hotel and maybe I can use that for > leverage. In the past, the hotel with the blocked rooms was glad to get > another night during the week and never even mentioned a different rate for > that night. I actually had to make two reservations. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying > has begun. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > -----Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf > Of Dana Overall > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:08 AM > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> KR Gathering rooms available for reservations > > > I've been waiting to post anything about the block of rooms for this years > gathering as the two competitors were in a bidding war to get the block of > rooms. While I think I could have got a better rate, $65.00, the time to > make a command decision happened this morning. The block of rooms is at > Country Inn & Suites by Carlson, 330 Walnut Creek Drive, Berea, KY 40403 > 859 228-0340 http://www.countryinns.com/bereaky . Be sure and mention you > are reserving a room for the KR Gathering. This motel is just down the road > from the airport so getting to and from the motel will be a piece of cake. > > The cutoff date for individual pay for each room will be August 10th. I > will be posting this information on a regular basis. The block of rooms is > for Friday and Saturday, Sept. 10 & 11. If you early arrivals want a > Thursday reservation, they will accommodate your request on an individual > basis. > > See everybody here shortly at i39 > > Dana Overall > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY i39 > > RV-7 slider "Black Magic" > Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda > Barrett Precision O 360 A1A > Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > do not archive > > > > > > _ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID283 > 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
KR> KR Gathering rooms available for reservations
I've been waiting to post anything about the block of rooms for this years gathering as the two competitors were in a bidding war to get the block of rooms. While I think I could have got a better rate, $65.00, the time to make a command decision happened this morning. The block of rooms is at Country Inn & Suites by Carlson, 330 Walnut Creek Drive, Berea, KY 40403 859 228-0340 http://www.countryinns.com/bereaky . Be sure and mention you are reserving a room for the KR Gathering. This motel is just down the road from the airport so getting to and from the motel will be a piece of cake. The cutoff date for individual pay for each room will be August 10th. I will be posting this information on a regular basis. The block of rooms is for Friday and Saturday, Sept. 10 & 11. If you early arrivals want a Thursday reservation, they will accommodate your request on an individual basis. See everybody here shortly at i39 Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
KR> Gathering
Just got back from a week and half on a private beach vacation that was most needed.what a time, no TV, no internet, nothing but great food and great relaxation. I'll post the information on reservations tomorrow as I'm sure there are some who are wanting to already make those coveted calls to the motel/hotel. Much more to follow tomorrow. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
KR> Gathering
Yes, it is Sept. 10,11 & 12. I will post the hotel/motel very soon. Yes Mark, we are not blocked from sleeping on the grass :-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:55:43 -0500 > From: da...@windstream.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> Gathering > CC: n5...@hiwaay.net > > > Now I am wondering how I can block yous guys from making smart alec remarks. > I have it as 10 thru 12, so maybe I am just having a memory block, but it is > blocked out in my calenday as those days. I think I will go remove my wheel > blocks and go flying. > > Mark Langford wrote: > > = > Mark Wood wrote: > > > okay, for the new guys, when will it be? I'll be flying down from the > > spam can capital, Wichita. > > I was going to send you to www.krgathering.org, but it doesn't appear to be > up at the moment. It's September 17th and 18th at I39 (Madison County > Airport near Richmond, KY). There's more in the archive on it, but I'm sure > the website will be back up shortly. I'm bringing a tent. > > They haven't blocked us from sleeping in the grass yet have they? > > Mark Langford > n5...@hiwaay.net > website www.n56ml.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/
KR> Gathering
Gang, here is what I am working on right nowrecovering from surgery #3 to begin with which sucks as we get older:-) In addition, I am bringing together the design of the hats, shirts, etc along with coordinating the catering of the the banquet on Saturday along with working with the airport for facilities along with name tags, forums, videos,it's coming together. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: bo12...@hotmail.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> Gathering > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:31:50 -0400 > > > Hang tight, no need to be making reservations right now away, they won't be > any cheaper now:-) Just block off the weekend from work and I'll post the > motel. > > Dana Overall > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY i39 > > RV-7 slider "Black Magic" > Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda > Barrett Precision O 360 A1A > Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > do not archive > > > > > From: da...@windstream.net > > To: kr...@mylist.net > > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:06:54 -0400 > > Subject: KR> Gathering > > > > Has anyone heard about which hotel it is that the rooms are blocked for us? > > > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > > > da...@windstream.net > > > > See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on > > the pics > > > > See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/ > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/
KR> Gathering
Hang tight, no need to be making reservations right now away, they won't be any cheaper now:-) Just block off the weekend from work and I'll post the motel. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: da...@windstream.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:06:54 -0400 > Subject: KR> Gathering > > Has anyone heard about which hotel it is that the rooms are blocked for us? > > > > Daniel R. Heath > > da...@windstream.net > > See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on > the pics > > See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 > > > > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/
KR> KR2SS under construction.
Look great Bob, keep it up and you'll be flying before you know it. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: badbob0...@embarqmail.com > > > Well, after building for two months I thought I should post some pictures. > http://picasaweb.google.com/103552664644911775549/KR2SS# > The idea for the laminations came from Mark L's website and Darren Crompton. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
KR> APRS
This system has been used by the RV crowd for probably the last two years. There are very, very, very few places where the transmitted packets are not picked up. This, to me, along with the required ELT is the only way to go for several reasons, piece of mind for your family as you flew cross country, rescue and recovery along with it's just plain fun. The units can be home built or now, there are several companies who have plug and play portable units. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: n5...@hiwaay.net > > Sam Buchanon wrote a Kitplanes article on this 2-3 years ago. The web > version of that is at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/tracker.htm . > > Mark Langford > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/
KR> ELT's? Yea or nay?
Let's put it this way, in my alum RV I installed the elt antenna inside the fuselage as I considered the thing to about as worthless as ti1s on a boar hog. Consider you go through the trees on the way down, it rips the antenna off, the plane ends up upside down, antenna stuck in the ground. Even if it does transmit, a bear will probably eat your carcass before they find you using the outdated triangulation search techniques. High priced, worthless insurance in my book...but that is my opinion only:-) A spot at least provides a track and general area to start looking. With that said, single seat no, more than one yes. Outdated FAA Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: jtw...@aol.com > Good Grief! > Geeez . . . . . . . . . _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/
KR> Antenna Questions/Carbon Fibre/Graphite
I know there are a lot of roll your own people on the KRNet and all the best to all you:-), however I used a simple store bought whip antenna and it worked great. For my VOR I used a wingtip mounted Bob Archer antenna, see: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/archer_antennas.php It worked great as I rode many an ILS down using this antenna. Look at Model 6 on the above page if you want a plug and play version for the com in a KR. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/
KR> 2010 KR Gathering date
I been able to finalize the date for this years National KR Gathering. The Friday, Saturday and Sunday dates will be September 10,11 and 12 at Richmond/Madison Kentucky airport, i39. I will be posting the phone number for the primary hotel very shortly. There will be camping allowed, not nearly as nice as the lake at Mt. Vernon, with hangar bathroom access. Plan on having lunch catered Saturday along with the banquet Saturday evening. I will be asking for people to buy tickets to each one separately as the time grows closer so I can give the caterer a good number. It looks like the hotel in Mt. Vernon used about 20 rooms from the reserved block so I am going with the same number. Hey, Jones...how many days until the gathering?? Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/
KR> Epoxy Thinning
Thanks Sid and Phil, I will try both thinning methods today and try them out on some scrap. Time to get back to building:-) Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: smw...@md.metrocast.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:26:45 -0500 > Subject: KR> Epoxy Thinning > > >Now a building question. I need to encapsulate the ash in epoxy, what is > the right mixture for thinning epoxy so I can brush it on? As you can tell, > it's been a while since I worked with wood:-) > > Dana Overall > > > Dana, > What works for me is to thin the epoxy with acetone. Mix the A & B parts > according to manufactures directions. Add a little acetone at a time and > stir it in gently so as not to get to much air mixed in. A varnish > consistancy is what you are looking for. > > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
KR> Keeping busy-Fun Friday
Several people have "noticed" my absence from the list the last couple months, suffice to say I no longer have a medical due to dealing with a little health issue...but the gathering plans are coming together nicely and we should, as always, have a great time again this year. Seems building is in my blood, after building a KR and an RV. I don't need a medical for thisI started mine yesterday!! http://yfrog.com/1sboat002j Here's what she will look like http://www.glen-l.com/picboards/picboard17/pic859-frame.html Now a building question. I need to encapsulate the ash in epoxy, what is the right mixture for thinning epoxy so I can brush it on? As you can tell, it's been a while since I worked with wood:-) Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
KR> 2010 KR National Gathering notes
Sorry gang, we are not voting on the date. I put those two dates in my post so everyone would know I am working on pulling the gathering together best for the masses. I don't want to hurt any feelings but I'm working on this from this end with the masses in mind. Hang tight for another day or two and I will post the dates. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: da...@windstream.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> 2010 KR National Gathering notes > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:46:38 -0500 > > Thanks Dana. If we are voting, I vote for the 17th. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39 > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying > has begun. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > -Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf > Of Dana Overall > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:58 AM > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: KR> 2010 KR National Gathering notes > > > Some quick notes here, I am finalizing the housing details for the gathering > at i39, Richmond, Madison Airport this September. As some might know, I > live in the Bluegrass region of Kentucky, otherwise known as the > thoroughbred horse capital of the world. For those coming from a long > distance away and want to make a vacation out of the gathering, the Alltech > FEI World Equestrian Games http://www.alltechfeigames.com/ will be hosted > by the Kentucky Horse Park, about 25 miles north of i39. They expect > between 850,000 and 1.2 million people to attend the games between Sept. 25 > through October 10. > > I watched the weather this past fall and found a later date, post the games, > would negatively affect the campers due to temps in the 30's at night. I > should have a commitment from the hotel I want to block rooms at, as it is > literally just down the road from the airportas three bedroom houses in > my town are being rented out for 3K per week for the games. Right now plan > on the gathering being held the weekend of Sept. 10 or 17th. I will get a > firm date in the next couple of days. > > Looking forward to Mark Jones being able to start his countdown. > > Dana Overall > > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY i39 > > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > do not archive > > > > > > _ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
KR> 2010 KR National Gathering notes
Some quick notes here, I am finalizing the housing details for the gathering at i39, Richmond, Madison Airport this September. As some might know, I live in the Bluegrass region of Kentucky, otherwise known as the thoroughbred horse capital of the world. For those coming from a long distance away and want to make a vacation out of the gathering, the Alltech FEI World Equestrian Games http://www.alltechfeigames.com/ will be hosted by the Kentucky Horse Park, about 25 miles north of i39. They expect between 850,000 and 1.2 million people to attend the games between Sept. 25 through October 10. I watched the weather this past fall and found a later date, post the games, would negatively affect the campers due to temps in the 30's at night. I should have a commitment from the hotel I want to block rooms at, as it is literally just down the road from the airportas three bedroom houses in my town are being rented out for 3K per week for the games. Right now plan on the gathering being held the weekend of Sept. 10 or 17th. I will get a firm date in the next couple of days. Looking forward to Mark Jones being able to start his countdown. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
KR> 2010 KR Gathering
I'm still awaiting some commitments from hotels & food service so hang with me just a little longer and I'll be posting final dates. Look for it be at i39 early to mid September. Hang tight and hope everyone's Thanksgiving was wonderful. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1
KR> KR: to weld or braze
> Thanks Dana! > > Those rivets are available at McMaster-Carr I believe. > > Is Proseal compatible with Auto Gas? > > Fred Johnson > Yes, it is compatible with auto gas. I don't know about McMaster Carr having the specific rivet but I'd be surprised it they did not. The rivet has a solid head and is integral in having a leak free tank. Since you would be ordering the tank sealant from Van's anyway...they carry the exact rivet for the job. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
KR> KR: to weld or braze
Fred, this is totally off topic on your question but if you go to Mark Jones's website and see how I sealed his alum tanks, you could avoid the welding process. Proseal, or the other tank sealant on Van's website is a great sealer used on the entire Van's fleet of aircraft. Just use the correct pop rivets, listed on Mark's site, and you won't have any leaks. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: f...@renotruss.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> KR: to weld or braze > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:24:36 -0800 > > That sounds like I am better off paying some one to weld at a local shop > then. > > I read this article in SA about how this guy soldered his cable connections > together with lead/tin solder like they did in the old days, and started > looking into the possibility of using flux and silver solder to braze > together my tanks. But now I think I will just pop rivet them together to > hold them in the shape and then have them welded. > > Fred Johnson > Reno, NV _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/
KR> 2010 Gathering
>>>> We had a banquet in a hangar at Mt Vernon within the last three years at least once that I remember, so that doesn't bother me, I like airplane hangars.<<<<<< > From: da...@windstream.net > Rough River is a great place. No hangar space, and I can't remember if > they had fuel or not.. The only negative that I remember about it was that > the people at the golf course complained we flew up in a rented 172 and could not get back out for a day > and then it was not good. > PS: Very much dislike "banquets" in hangars. Hamburgers and hot dogs, but > not "banquets". Not to pick on you Dan, but these are just two examples of emails I, and the KR net has received to prove my point. I'm not going to make everyone happy, no matter what I do:-) Yes, we can use I39 but I want to look at all the amenities of the airports in the area. I feel an obligation to keep it close, as I was voted to hold the gathering, and to provide a setting that both is inviting to the pilots and also their families. I think was to many times we look at what "we" want and leave the family out of the enjoyment. I39 would offer touring the craft capital of KY along with horse country tours, bourbon trail, hangar for KR's camping but no campsite, out away from most anything, no food on site while Rough River, where the gathering has previously been held, would offer rooms on site, golf, miniature golf, boat rental, hiking trail just outside of the room doors, a breakfast and lunch buffet at the lodge along with a campsite, camping beside your airplane but no hangars. It's all a juggling act, what is fine with some not with others. Only thing I can say, I'll give it my best. You pilots, chime in off the net if you want, give me your thoughts. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
KR> 2010 Gathering
First of all gang, I have not set a date yet but will announce one next week. I am busy working around the World Equestrian Games coming to Lexington around the gathering time. They expect 1.5 million visitors over three week event. I also have been watching weather, checking the history of the area and noted emails from flyers. October weather history is not discernibly different than September. October traditionally has 1 more cloudy day than September and one less rainy day which amounts to .1 inch more rain in September. The big difference in night time weather. October weather is much colder at night which would adversely affect campers. As for flying responders, only one preferred October, one was either way and the rest preferred September. I still haven't formed an opinion of my own. One thing I, and am certain other hosts feel the same way, will do the best I can do in picking a date, setting up forums, arranging accommodations, hangar space and picking a place for the dinner. Trust me when I say this, I will not make everyone happy and no one will get exactly what they prefer. If I were king for day, I would be able to achieve all the above.but I'm just a lowly foot soldier:-) For example, I don't like to drive to a different location for the dinner but my place we would have to have it in the hangar. No biggie for me but another might have a different opinion. If I have it here: http://www.airnav.com/airport/2I3 http://parks.ky.gov/findparks/resortparks/rr/ http://www.stateparks.com/rough_river_dam.htmlwe would have dodging on site, banquet area but no hangar The point of all this, we must sacrifices here and there. I'm opening this up for comment Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:102009
KR> Gathering report
> Subject: KR> Gathering report > I just collected for the last hat and shirt sale and have sent the > closing financial report to Bob Lee for posting on the Gathering web > site. > Dana has hosted past Gathering as well as several recent RV fly-ins > so I think we're in good hands. I just hope he has some pull with > the weather Gods when picking a date. :-) > > Larry Flesner Thanks Larry. Being a Certified Public Accountant with my own practice, I think what you will find is I'm a tickler for balancing to the penny. I too, will be forwarding financial info to Bob, probably more detailed than neededbut that's just me:-) As for the weather, someone did a dance this past year....seemed pretty good to me. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows 7: I wanted more reliable, now it's more reliable. Wow! http://microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default-ga.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:102009
KR> KR Gathering
I look forward to next years Gathering and > wish Dana the best as next years host. My only request is that he > provide me with a shade tree and a lawn chair so I can spend my time > relaxing and enjoying the event and spending more time with everyone > attending. > Take it away, Dana. > > Larry Flesner As you wish Larry, I'll find you some shade, and put your name on it!! Take a break, it's well deserved. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 do not archive _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
KR> Gathering and Weather -- Please read these messages
Sept/Oct? I'm all ears, listening especially to all you KR pilots. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 do not archive _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
KR> Back from the gathering
Steve Eberhart and I launched out from the gathering yesterday to beat the weather that was forecast for my home airport. Seems the forecasters were correct. I awoke this morning on my tempurpedic mattress, as opposed to on my backpacking sleeping mat in my backpacking tent by the lake at the gathering, to 300' ovc, less than 3 and heavy rain. The low in TN, and high to my NE, converged right over my house. I wish I had not had to leave but as we know, weather dictates safety when you are flying. I hope the remaining KR's, as several left during the day Saturday due to approaching weather, can get out safely and arrive safely at their destinations. As evidence by the events at this years gathering, we can replace airplanes we cannot replace friends. Fly safe. As for the gathering, Steve and I flew in Thursday early afternoon. With the help of Larry and his truck, we were able to get all the stuff we crammed into the airplane in one load...that is a story in and of itself. After getting our tents set up by the lake, Rich, Steve and I made a barley pop run into Mt. Vernon. Later Thursday, after the weather allowed, Jeff Scott and Mark L. and others arrived. The rest of the day is pretty much a blur as barley pops were consumed and stories told around the lake. Sure hope nobody taped some of those conversations or we all would be permanently grounded..or at least should be:-) On a side note, I can just barely see the treeline out the front windows due to this cloud bustvis down to 1500' Friday and Saturday were your typical KR Gathering days, seeing old friends, hanging at the airport, looking at airplanes and listening to Larry play his guitar.he is GOOD!! The KR gathering was very valuable to me since I have been working on a set of revised plans for my next KR "derivative". I was able to bounce my ideas off several people who are currently incorporating at least one my desired changes in their current construction. Suffice to say, the one I hope to have significantly along the way by next years gathering, will incorporate several things I have learned from being around the KR community and from what I gleaned from building my KR-2 and my RV. Do me a favor and don't ask.I'm sure there will be more to follow from this end:-) Larry, thanks for hosting the gathering for the last six years. You deserved that bomber jacket...and I hope Mark Jones was able to collect enough "excess donations" to get his new engine financed:-) I am sure we will be back to Mt. Vernon, sooner rather than later. It is a fabulous place to hold the gathering and I hope you get to do some just hanging out and enjoying yourself next year with some hangar flying and real flying instead of working your @#$ off. Plan on the gathering at i39 next year to follow the same kind of structure as those in the past, when I held it for two years at Lake Barkley, Tommy at Red Oak and Larry at MVN. It will for the KR crowd and I'll keep all updated as to the date and other information as thing take structure and finalize. See all at i39 next year. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergy&form=MHEINA&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1
KR> 2010 KR Gathering
> From: da...@windstream.net > That was a good location. Anyone on the ground there? I liked Lake Barkely > as well. Didn't they have cabins right there in the park? Dan, yes Lake Barkley had cabins on the park grounds. It is a couple hours flight away from my home airport, i39, though. In addition, the Kentucky State Park airports no longer have fuel so that rules them out. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
KR> 2010 KR Gathering at I39
Another point about central Kentucky, I just checked flightprep and did a 300 mile circle and it hit 19/20 states. It's in flat country so no mountains to contend with but like I said, it's democratic.... Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: bo12...@hotmail.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> 2010 KR Gathering at I39 > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:04:58 -0400 > > > Steve, I can't speak for anyone else but this has always been a democratic > process where it is talked about on the KRNet but decided at the gathering. > So, no I wouldn't think my volunteering to host the gathering for the third > time precludes anyone from throwing their hat in the ring. > > For many on the KRNet that do not know, I have sold my RV and am back to > doing something with the KR design. I'm thinking since I built one KR, and > now one RV, I can put something together via the KR route pretty darn quickly > with a few nice additions. > > With that said, i39 is located in central Kentucky, 25 miles south of LEX > airport so commercial transportation is taken care of. The airport is just > off of I-75 north/south and 20 miles south of east/west 64 making vehicle > transportation to the airport very assessable. The new FBO is very receptive > to the idea and will have one very large hangar available to accommodate > those KR's which fly in. They are presently adding 500' to give them 5000' > and a new taxiway. A very large ramp area for milling around on. Camping > will be available just behind the main hangar, albeit no lake to "swim" in. > The airport is out in the country, away from congested areas. Within about a > mile, merely by making a right out of the airport, are two national motels > and a couple restaurants. A couple miles past that is the town of Berea, > which is known as the craft capital of Kentucky for off airport visiting. > Having hosted the gathering twice before, a prior builder of a KR and having > been around KR's as long as I have, I think I have a pretty good idea what > everyone looks for in a gathering. > > I'm a big boy, if this doesn't sound like a good place, chime in. > > Time to buy some wood. > > > > Dana Overall > > Richmond, KY i39 > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > do not archive > > > > > From: n5...@hiwaay.net > > To: kr...@mylist.net > > Subject: Re: KR> 2010 KR Gathering at I39 > > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:23:50 -0500 > > > > Earlier today I wrote: > > > > >> So I'm going to volunteer to host it. Not at my airport (it's short, > > >> narrow, and "private", requiring written permission to land), so I'm > > >> going to try to do what Dana did...have it somewhere else entirely, with > > >> me and some volunteers (hopefully) pulling everything else together to > > >> make it happen. I only have two weeks to pull this together in a > > >> fashion that may convince the attendees at this year's Gathering that > > >> it'll work, and therefore garner their votes. << > > > > I'm pleased to announce that Dana Overall has contacted me and volunteered > > to host the KR Gathering in 2010 at his home airport, I39 ( > > http://www.airnav.com/airport/I39 ) in Richmond Kentucky. I've been there, > > and it is a very good alternative, with lots of things going for it, and > > just about everything we are looking for, especially the right "guy on the > > ground"! I'll let him expound on it some, but I'm ready to vote for giving > > Larry a break and holding it at Dana's place. He'll still need volunteers > > to deal with several areas like hats and shirts, forums, and that sort of > > thing, and your vote at this year's Gathering, but I'm very confident that > > Dana can pull another nice Gathering together at I39.. My apologies to the > > West Coast guys, however... > > > > Thanks Dana! > > > > Mark Langford > > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRne
KR> 2010 KR Gathering at I39
Steve, I can't speak for anyone else but this has always been a democratic process where it is talked about on the KRNet but decided at the gathering. So, no I wouldn't think my volunteering to host the gathering for the third time precludes anyone from throwing their hat in the ring. For many on the KRNet that do not know, I have sold my RV and am back to doing something with the KR design. I'm thinking since I built one KR, and now one RV, I can put something together via the KR route pretty darn quickly with a few nice additions. With that said, i39 is located in central Kentucky, 25 miles south of LEX airport so commercial transportation is taken care of. The airport is just off of I-75 north/south and 20 miles south of east/west 64 making vehicle transportation to the airport very assessable. The new FBO is very receptive to the idea and will have one very large hangar available to accommodate those KR's which fly in. They are presently adding 500' to give them 5000' and a new taxiway. A very large ramp area for milling around on. Camping will be available just behind the main hangar, albeit no lake to "swim" in. The airport is out in the country, away from congested areas. Within about a mile, merely by making a right out of the airport, are two national motels and a couple restaurants. A couple miles past that is the town of Berea, which is known as the craft capital of Kentucky for off airport visiting. Having hosted the gathering twice before, a prior builder of a KR and having been around KR's as long as I have, I think I have a pretty good idea what everyone looks for in a gathering. I'm a big boy, if this doesn't sound like a good place, chime in. Time to buy some wood. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: n5...@hiwaay.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> 2010 KR Gathering at I39 > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:23:50 -0500 > > Earlier today I wrote: > > >> So I'm going to volunteer to host it. Not at my airport (it's short, > >> narrow, and "private", requiring written permission to land), so I'm > >> going to try to do what Dana did...have it somewhere else entirely, with > >> me and some volunteers (hopefully) pulling everything else together to > >> make it happen. I only have two weeks to pull this together in a > >> fashion that may convince the attendees at this year's Gathering that > >> it'll work, and therefore garner their votes. << > > I'm pleased to announce that Dana Overall has contacted me and volunteered > to host the KR Gathering in 2010 at his home airport, I39 ( > http://www.airnav.com/airport/I39 ) in Richmond Kentucky. I've been there, > and it is a very good alternative, with lots of things going for it, and > just about everything we are looking for, especially the right "guy on the > ground"! I'll let him expound on it some, but I'm ready to vote for giving > Larry a break and holding it at Dana's place. He'll still need volunteers > to deal with several areas like hats and shirts, forums, and that sort of > thing, and your vote at this year's Gathering, but I'm very confident that > Dana can pull another nice Gathering together at I39.. My apologies to the > West Coast guys, however... > > Thanks Dana! > > Mark Langford > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > website at http://www.N56ML.com > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009
KR> See ya
Not going to go into the reasons, suffice to say, the time has finally come to part company with what is left of the KRNet. Those whom I desire to communicate with, we do so off the list as the list is not for trivial chatter. I consider them to be friends and will remain in touch. In a bit of farewell advice, please remember the list is not for politics, chest thumping, smoking, defending...the list goes on.it is for KR building. I have seen many knowledgable members part company angryly, I am not one. There just seems to be nothing to imput, so it is time to allocate my time elsewhere. I will be at the gathering, look for the guy in Key West attire.course you may have to pick and choose. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host. Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Subject: RE: KR> Smoke > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:36:16 -0400 > From: rodney.r.hall@navy.mil > To: kr...@mylist.net > > " To find out now that the fellow who crashed his KR in Georgia liked to > smoke when flying . . . all bets are off regarding anything actually > serious having caused his accident. It's not unlikely that he had a > minor problem, needed a smoke to calm himself down and hit the tree > while > looking for his lighter. " > > This is a condemnation of someone with absolutely no evidence based only > on personal prejudice. What the persons personal habits were may or may > not have contributed to the accident but there is no evidence it did. I > am a bit tired of people and eventually the government telling me what I > cannot do in my own space be it my house, car or airplane. If he wanted > to smoke in his airplane then that is his choice to make. > > Rodney Hall > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009
KR> Ramblings of an Interested Bystander
Steve, thanks. I was going to hold off until Larry chimed in. As I see it, Larry has set the bar high in organizing the gathering and providing a location with allows many to come in from the N,S,E & W, as evidenced by the attendees. Many people have chimed in with ideas of incorporating the KR Gathering with other flying events or having other airplanes invited. My opinion would be to preserve the KR Gathering as just that, the KR Gathering, not a flyin. When I hosted the event, I opted to hold it 213 miles to the west of my home airport, at Lake Barkley State Park, in order to get it more centrally located for the attendees benefit, not my convenience. Sure we would all like to host the event at our home airport but sometimes it is for our benefit and not for those who attend, both flying and driving in. The planning is not that big of a deal, rely on the advice of prior hosts. The norm here lately has been to have the gathering at a location for a couple of years. That makes it easier on the host, as the planning for the second year does not take nearly as much time or effort. As much as I would like to say planning for the gathering is a daunting experience, it really isn't. Again, many have mentioned their locations offer so much in the surrounding area but I'd be willing to bet 99% of the attendees could care less, as they spend all their time on the ramp, walking, talking and sqawcking KR's. If you decide to present your proposal, just plan on the convenience of the attendees first. How will eveyone get there, where will they stay, can people camp, what will they eat, where will they eat, do I available hangar space, although a grass strip is nice what if it rains, will people be able to get in or out, where will the banquet be held at, can people get out of the sun, if not do I rent a tent, are we away from town so people don't call and complain about those "misses". I guess where I am going is don't over think this, keep it KR and keep it simple. Hey Mark, how many day's until Margarittaville?? Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
KR> Gathering / 'ire" on the list?
> > On another note, too many people on the net take a rebuttal to their idea or > opinion as a personal attack. If you can't defend your opinion or idea > without > personal attacks, I'd suggest you hit the "delete" key instead of "send". > > Have a nice day. > > Larry Flesner As Jeff just said in another thread and Larry just said above, don't be so quick to retreat at what you initially think is a rebuttal. There are always going to be differing opinions. I do think what a couple people on this list, who have acted in such a manner, don't fully realize is how the gathering location process works. You must attend the gathering and present your proposal at the banquet for critique. It is voted on at that time, it is not decided on the internet. Come to gathering, bring a big trout from MN or a seashell from CA, lobster from NH I actually liked the NH idea.and fire away, but be willing to walk away empty handed but still friends. Dana "Groupee" Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
KR> Prop Spinner attaching screws ?
> From: 2sc...@bellsouth.net > I see how the forward bulkhead is screwed to the prop hub > but not to the Spinner. > > I thought perhaps there would be screws through the spinner > into the forward bulkhead much like the rear one. > Scott Scott, look at the third picture up from the bottom, it says: "OH, I am finished. I still have to put the screws in the front bulkhead, but I ran out of anchor nuts." Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
KR> Prop Spinners-bulkhead pic link
> From: 2sc...@bellsouth.net > > Would you have outside screws that screw through > the spinner just like the rear bulkhead ? > > I've looked through about fifty spinners > at the fly market at SunFun and I dont think > I ever saw a spinner with two bulkheads. > Sounds like a good idea though. I wonder > what alloy the alum was and whether it > had been fatigued when formed into the > shape of the spinner. > Scott You do want that forward spinner bulkhead in place. Here is a link to my constant speed prop hub showing the for and aft spinner bulkheads. It works exactly the same way on a fixed pitch prop. Yes, screws go into each bulkhead in my install. http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6190/spinner021.jpg Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
> >Mark, > > >Is that an invitation > > >Larry Flesner > > Just a thought. I have not cleared anything with the airport authority. If > it becomes a reality, I will make a formal proposal at the Gathering > Mark Jones (N886MJ) Hum, so I guess Key West is out of the picture.:-( Sorry Steve, no shirts, hats or sea shells But then again Steve, as one poster put it...we are probably groupees.. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:33:28 -0500 > From: has...@mncable.net Now all of the sudden, > there is post after post of _itching and complaining about those > Locations that have been offered. > > You have to realize there would be a LOT of leg work and calls to be > made by the person Hosting to make arrangements. > > Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not believe I would > want to put that effort out for those who have commented. > Good Luck, > > Dick > Salol, MN Dick and Bill, you seem to have taken constructive input as a personal attack, that was far from my intent. If you did take it as you seem to have, please accept my apology as no -itching and complaining was coming from me. Yes, I do realize the work involved in hosting the gathering, as I have hosted it twice. Also, the location is voted on and selected at the gathering. I really don't think the people who fly to the gathering are tethered to their home airports or limited to the local treeline. By golly if you want it in Key West, I'll host it again:-) No more comments from this end, I'm going flying, > Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
> From: n5...@hiwaay.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 > Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 12:47:58 -0500 > > But let me get this straight now...every suggestion so far has been along > the extreme perimeter of the country...west, northwest, north, northeast, > far east. All we're missing is the tip of Florida. > > So I guess I'll give up at this point, and see y'all at MVN in 2010. I'll > just be content to talk Joe Horton into meeting me at various places, and > visiting folks like Dan Heath or John Backer... As a former host of the 2 KR gatherings, I have to chime in on Mark's observation. I have been watching this thread with interest. Even though I do have a KR anymore, I do try to stay in contact with the KR crowd and attend the gatherings, I'll be at MVN this year. I am sure many who have posted suggestions have great airports. However, they have all seemed to be on one coast or the other, extreme NE or extreme NW, I'm like Mark, how come someone hasn't chimed in with Key West yet:-)? The reason I held the gathering at Lake Barkley, a 1.5 hour flight west for me at the time, instead of my home airport, which is centrally located anyway, is Lake Barkley is a little further west which allowed the western people a better opportunity to attend while not ruling out the eastern people. My opinion, and it's just mine, as I have no dog in this fight (not very PC with the Michael Vick thing:-) but I think you really want a more centrally located airport than on a coast. If you do go with a coast location, plan on buying fewer shirt, hats and don't buy as much food, you will have immediately reduced the attendance of the gathering. Optimal location: Midwest, away from town, multiple runways, large hangar, restaurant, banquet area, close to a commercial airport with camping.hum, sound like anyplace any of us has visited. BTW, sorry I missed the Wings and Wheels yesterday, Elaine and I flew as a two ship to Columbus, OH to help supervise (never can have enough supervisors) the move of a friends RV-10 from the paint shop, did a little acro on the way, visited two graduation parties, had a great dinner and flew back just before sunset, in time to get home and watch a movie with a couple of tasty barley popsgonna fly to Texas next Friday for a three day formation clinich.get off this computer gang and go do something on your project, flying is much more fun than building!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009
KR> I broke 250
> From: flyk...@charter.net > Last evenings flight was a small milestone for me. I broke 250 flight hours on N886MJ. To be exact, I now have 250.4 hours with 296 successful landings.< Well that's a whole lot better than than 250.4 hours and only 295 successful landingsor are you counting the hunting event as a successful landing..:-) Like Mark said, get off the computer, get out in your shop, do something to your project today, flying is much more fun than building..four rolls and one loop yesterday, more of the same today! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
KR> Get em flying
Here's why you need to "get em flying". We are throwing around a long weekend trip to St. Simons Island. See: http://www.explorestsimonsisland.com/index.html or http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSSI Here you go, for me it's 415 nm, 24.3 gallons one, 2:33 at 160 kts cruiseso, two days on the beach, eating seafood..for less than $200 in avgas. Need I say it again...get em flying!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: bo12...@hotmail.com > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: RE: KR> Anybody flying today? > Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:25:35 -0400 > > > > To: kr...@mylist.net > > > > Anybody flying today?? I'm am:-) > > > Dana Overall > > Yeah, I was. But not the KR. Had the other plane out today. I'll get > > the KR out of the hangar and head out for a $50 breakfast burrito > > tomorrow. :o) > > > > -Jeff Scott > > Hah, around this neck of the woods we go out for a hundred dollar > hamburger..guess you guys do it differently "out west":-) > > Dana Overall > > Richmond, KY i39 > > RV-7 slider "Black Magic" > Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda > Barrett Precision O 360 A1A > Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 > http://rvflying.tripod.com > > do not archive > > > > > > > _ > Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009
KR> RE: flying today
>>From: joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com CC: corvaircr...@mylist.net; kr...@mylist.net Subject: flying today Dana, I thought I might see you today at the Virginia regional at SFQ. It was a beautiful day and they had a great turn out with some beautiful planes. Yes I did forget my camera. But I did get another 4.3 hours and great flying weather and for the corvair 5th bearing conversation I turned over a hundred hours on Dan's 5th bearing and nearly 400 hours on the high volume oil pump. Happy flying Guys, Joe Horton<< I thought about it but a friend flew down from Columbus and we hung out all day on the deck cooking dead animal carcasses on the grill. The four of us are launching out today for parts unknown in search of more expensive, but well worth it, food:-) Get em flying gang, it's WAY too much fun!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive Click to find the latest solutions to enhance your small business. _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009
KR> Anybody flying today?
> To: kr...@mylist.net > > Anybody flying today?? I'm am:-) > > Dana Overall > Yeah, I was. But not the KR. Had the other plane out today. I'll get > the KR out of the hangar and head out for a $50 breakfast burrito > tomorrow. :o) > > -Jeff Scott Hah, around this neck of the woods we go out for a hundred dollar hamburger..guess you guys do it differently "out west":-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009
KR> Anybody flying today?
Hum, you send something to someone off line to keep the "air waves clear" and he airs the laundrywhy am I not surprised?? Anybody flying today?? I'm am:-) Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 10:27:37 -0700 From: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link To: bo12...@hotmail.com CC: kr...@mylist.net Wow, I only asked a couple of simple questions, both of which seemed reasonable. I am sorry that you choose to be so anti-American, especially considering everything this country has provided for you and others here. My original question was prompted by the fact that this week many proud and observant Americans reflected on the supreme sacrifices this country has made for others, including over 140,000 men who will never come home from Europe and who are forever to be what you might consider "emperialist occupiers" of those countries. I never mentioned politics, and I would certainly not care to discuss them, especially on this forum. Byron Kelly Denver, CO --- On Sat, 5/30/09, Dana Overall wrote: From: Dana Overall Subject: RE: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link To: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 4:41 AM Didn't say the US was bad as your twisted Rush Limbaugh reply indicated, just we acted like total assholes for the last eight years. We deserve the snobbish, egomaniac, imperialist labels, much like your nearsided reply, earned by our imperialist actions of the eight years. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:49:14 -0700 From: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link To: bo12...@hotmail.com So, when are you planning on leaving and where are you choosing to go live that is an improvement? Byron Kelly Denver, CO --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Dana Overall wrote: From: Dana Overall Subject: RE: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link To: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:27 PM If you haven't been out of this country during the last 8 years, you wouldn't understandI'm surprised it wasn't more than just a groanand it's well deserved!! Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:10:25 -0700 > From: toadkelly2...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link > To: kr...@mylist.net > > Beautiful area and photos, but what is with this comment?: > > "She was Brazilian,and he was Peruvian. I said I was American, and she > groaned. I can't blame her. > > > " > > Are you being apologetic for being American and for being from the country > that saved that country from falling to the Germans? > > Byron Kelly > Denver, CO USA > > > --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Mark Langford wrote: > > From: Mark Langford > Subject: KR> stick force meter, English coast photo link > To: "KRnet" > Cc: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" > Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 1:48 PM > > NetHeads, > > My wife recently bought me a gizmo to weigh my bag before I come back over > from here (I didn't want to bring my 10-pound 400 lb scale that I bought for > weight and balances), and it's only $15-$20 (at least that's what you would > admit). Last night I was trying to figure out what else I could do with it, > and it occured to me that it might as well have been custom designed to read > stick forces!It even reads in tenths of a pound. See > http://www.balanzza.com/ for details. I think it was bought at Target or > somewhere similar. I smell stick force testing in the air. The only > irritating thing is that it locks in on a number after a second or so, rather > than a continuous reading, but I think it'll be helpful. > &
KR> And just one more:-)
Care to get a little closer and count the rivets:-) Although in this one, I am definitely sucked (aft about a foot). http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3262/luk031.jpg Get em flying gang, you'll love it!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009
KR> Friday motivation
Get out there and glue something together gang, you will kick yourself in the butt for not flying sooner after you finish and start flying!!! Now for some Fun Friday motivation!! These are some shots from inroute to the Cincy Knights Air Rally at LUK this past Saturday. We went up as a two ship with my friend Glen "Dogg" Miller and his 8. I hate to admit it, but we had to ask for an inch of manifold pressure as Dogg was leaving us behindand I was doing 173 kts. IAS turning 2550 RPM's, 26" MP and burning 13+ gallons an hour.as in "winding it out" The formation pics show I'm a couple inches sucked. The view I'm looking for is the outside aileron hinge linded up with the spinner, be able to see the top and bottom of the wing and about 3 inches of elevator sticking out form behind the rudder. Oh well, I guess I need to burn some more avgas and practice:-) http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8374/luk043.jpg http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2281/luk044.jpg Elaine and I had a fantastic lunch in the restaraunt at LUK (Lunken in Cincy). http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7333/luk003.jpg Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009
KR> Dynon announces new cheaper EFIS, perfect for a KR
The D6 and D60 are simpler versions of our D10A and D100 EFIS units. Designed for those builders that want an affordable replacement for a 6-pack or are looking for the perfect backup to a more complex panel, the D6 and D60 are priced at $1600 and $1900 respectively. These prices make a glass panel a less expensive option than steam gauges for most installs, while also reducing weight, installation complexity, and panel space. To further sweeten the deal, the D6 price includes the popular remote compass, while the D60 includes a remote compass and the high brightness screen. The D6 and D60 are built on the same platform as the current D10A and D100, and have the same attitude, altitude, airspeed, heading, vertical speed, and turn coordinator performance and functionality. The price reduction reflects a removal of some features from the D10A and D100, such as the HSI, DSAB networking to other units, Autopilot, GPS connectivity, and others. Options such as Angle of Attack, battery backup, and the altitude encoder converter are all still available with the D6/D60. The only non-supported option is OAT. At any time a D6 or D60 can be upgraded to be a full D10A or D100 (no, not for free). The D6 and D60 can be ordered now and will begin shipping on May 29th. http://dynonavionics.com/docs/EFIS_feature_comparison.html No I am not a representative of Dynon, just a flat panel enthusiast. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009
KR> More SNF pictures
A few more SNF pictures. I didn't get a nooner today like Jones... http://picasaweb.google.com/Dana.OverallCPA/SunFun2009# Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009
KR> I feel like Mark Langford!!
Yesterday was one of those days that was the tale of two stories. My office day yesterday was one to forget, the rest of the day was one of those "life is good" days. I bugged out of the office for a nice 6 mile run at lunch time then back to the office to clean up the mess I made in the morning. I was seeing rain in the forecast for pretty much the rest of the week so out to the airport I went. I had removed the cowl to do a good look see after putting the hours on her going to SNF and back. With the help of a Swift pilot, we cowled her up, I dialed in some new autopilot gain and deadband numbers and off I launched in beautiful 80 degree, early evening weather. Up I climbed listening to The Counting Crows until I realized it was starting to cool off...hum, I'm passing thorugh 6K.. I leveled off and did some testing of the autopilot and altitude hold, all worked fine. Enough of the autopilot, 20 degrees nose up, neutralize the elevator, stick full left and watch the world roll looking out the windscreen. Well you know the deal, if you roll to the left you must roll to the right to unwind her, so another nose up and to the right we go. After a couple more rolls it was time for a 2.5 G vertical pull, hold it, hold it, 20 degrees short of inverted start unloading for a -.5G pass through inverted, nose coming down pulling again looking for 2.5G and leveling out...nice loop.continue the nose up 20 degrees and another roll to the left letting it continue to 60 degrees past level to a 180 turn while pulling some G's. Another roll or two then head back to the pattern for one of those, few and far between for me-), greezer wheel landings where I wonder if the mains are actually down. Taxi back to the hangar, swing her around, let the RPM's setting in and pull the mixture with a big grin and content, relaxing, feeling. Push her back in the hangar, put the canopy cover back on and pat her on the horizontal stab as I walk out of the hangar and off to a nice dinner out. What an wonderful 20 minutes of stress relief that you can't get doing anything other than seeing green over blue. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/862/snf025.jpg Get out to the shop gang and do some building. Life is good!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage2_042009
KR> Never know who you are going to run into at SNF
Sounds like the ticket Pete..I'll have to get cranking to get that vair installed in Black Magic..... Dana Overall 1999* & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: pke...@hotmail.com > Dana > > We can continue that "process" at EAA 82 Wings and Wheels Fly-in on June 6th > and 7th. We can call it a "warm-up for the rootbeer stand" at the Gathering > in Mt. Vernon ! > > Pete Klapp > > There I was, walking up to get a beer after flying in on Thursday only to > > find this bunch bellying up to the bar: > > > > http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6951/snf092.jpg _ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009
KR> Never know who you are going to run into at SNF
There I was, walking up to get a beer after flying in on Thursday only to find this bunch bellying up to the bar: http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6951/snf092.jpg For those of you who missed SNF, the weather was beautiful, attendance was good. I was able to climb to 10,500 on the way back yesterday and took advantage of the lower left quadrant of the high off the east coast and road tailwinds all the way back. The tailwinds made for a three hour flight at 190-200 kts in my little ol black airplane Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009
KR> Zodiacs
This is not KR related but if you know anyone with a Zodiac 601XL you just may want to beg off a ride. http://www.ntsb.gov/recs/letters/2009/A09_30_37.pdf The NTSB, on April 14th. recommended to the FAA the the 601's be grounded while they straighten out out some flutter/wing separation issues. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009
KR> tail draggers
DJ, yes if you go at it that way.getting a new rating, but not simply an endorsement, complies with the requirements for the BFR. Always a good thing, in my opinion to add new ratings, thus new flying skills to one's repertoire. As Oscar said, each 150/152 is going to be somewhat different, if there is one around you, go for it. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:48:01 -0400 > I agree. My thinking is that what I'd be getting out of the BFR is > learning a new skill, flying a taildragger airplane. For my last BFR, I > got my seaplane rating. For the next one, maybe getting some complex > time, or the high powered (>200hp) endorsement. _ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A
KR> tail draggers
Absolutely, YMMV:-) My thinking with a BFR is get something out of it rather than just get a pencil log book entry. Let the instructor have you short field land it, no flap landing, pull the power on you, soft field land itget something out of the instructor time, use him. If one is trying to kill two birds with one stone, a BFR and be able to walk away with a feeling on tailwheel airplanes, you have short changed yourself on the BFR and knowing whether you would enjoy the tailwheel experience. and whether you would enjoy owning and flying a tailwheel airplane. As for tailwheel training, in my opinion, there is no way you will walk away from an hour of tailwheel time with enough knowledge to make an informed decision. It's going to take you time for everything to soak in and put you ahead of the airplane. This will enable you to anticapate inputs, instead of reacting to diversions. Are tailwheel airplanes more difficult to master than nosewheel airplanes, I'm going to leave that one alone. You use, what should be, the same techniques you would use with a nose dragger, rudder for directional control, up wind wind to control drift. It really is no different, just a little more unforgiving if you fail to fly it the way you should fly a nosewheel airplane. As a tailwheel pilot, I hate to admit it publically but it does not take super human piloting abilities of which a mere mortal does not possess, to safely fly a tailwheel airplaneI can't believe I just said that:-) Oscar, we obviously flew different conversions, as I had to do the Texas Two Step to keep that dang underpowered, small ruddered, spider geared contraption on the center line:-) How's that for a description. Plus, with two on board, we were climbing out at a whopping 300 fpm at 65 kts. I guess I'm a little spoiled with being off in 350 feet, and zooming off at a lazy 1600 fpm at 120... Dana Overall 1999& 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: taildr...@hotmail.com > Well, I guess the old saying "your results may vary" applies to flying the > Texas Taildragger conversion of the Cessna 150/152. _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009
KR> tail draggers
> From: bo12...@hotmail.com > > Dan, although I agree the tail wheel time in a converted C152 will be similar to a KR, I believe he was looking simply for tail wheel time to, as he said, "see what it is like". My bad, I meant "I agree the tail wheel time in a converted C152 will NOT be similar to a KR. Tail wheel techniques will be the same but flight characteristics will be very dis-similar. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009
KR> tail draggers
Dan, although I agree the tail wheel time in a converted C152 will be similar to a KR, I believe he was looking simply for tail wheel time to, as he said, "see what it is like". I flew in a converted 150 last week and it was flat out squirely. I would recommend one spend more than one hour getting tail wheel training before basing an opinion on the experience. I would recommend not trying to kill birds with one stone, BFR/tail wheel; treat each of them separately and get something out of each experience. You get what you pay for with my opinion.:-) Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > From: da...@windstream.net > It won't be at all similar. I got a little stick time in an RV and it was > similar. I believe that all that you will accomplish by getting time in the > 152, will be to convince you that you must convert it to a nose wheel. _ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009
KR> tail draggers
I tell you what, if you can tame that converted 152, you will be a true tail wheel pilot. They are squirrely, the steerable tail wheel is more like a "oh, I might go there" tail wheel. Go for it, then you have to learn the secret, we are better than nosedraggers, handshake-) I had a little Super Decathlon tail wheel refresher, aerobatic training yesterday. See a short video from my "helmet cam": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAlzbAHxaN0 Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Subject: Re: KR> tail draggers > From: d...@deej.net > > Thanks, Jim. There is a flight school about an hour from me that > offers tail wheel training in a Cessna 152 (converted). I'm due for a > BFR anyway, so I'm going to see if I can work something out with them, > and it will give me an opportunity to try it out. _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage1_042009
KR> Glass cockpit for a KR
I continually get private emails from KRNet members concerning my use of glass panel technology in my current airplane. I thought it might be educational to post a public message addressing the current state of glass panel for use in KR's. I upgraded my panel when I had to do the rebuild after the jump school airplane ran over my RV. The advancement of glass panel technology took giant leaps in just the last couple of years. I am using the Grand Rapids Technology HX flat screen with synthetic vision and high def screen. Although a little pricey, and more suited for IFR flight, it is incredible to me just what is in that little box. I have AOA, Hightway in the Sky, Flight Directer, sythetic approach along with 3D synthetic vision, weather and terrain with an interal artificial GPS couple externally to my Garmin 430 and autopilot. I can pretty much run the entire airplane from that one flat panel primary flight display. This technology is well under 10K and can be seen in the following youtube videos. I have a back up flat panel along with a main buss, battery buss and an essential buss along with internal battery backup on fone flat panel EFIS. I opted to go no heavy steam guages, no vac. Joe and Mark stopped by my place not too long ago. I tried to spend some of there money by showing them the flat stuff:-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu1Pqa1409Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8SID85-BQk&feature=related There are two companies offering flat panel display which would be well suited for the KR. Dynon is coming out with there syntetic vision but are still offering the D10A or their Flight Deck version which you could have split screen EFIS and engine monitering. For VFR flight you are looking at one instrument giving you a world of information. Highly recommended you look at Dynon for KR needs. http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/news_technology_preview.html The new kid on the block, which a lot of RV'er are using is MGL. They offer a wide range of flat panel with internal GPS and radio built right in. I have a friend who just got his, I'll report back what he has in it money wise. Meanwhile, check them out at http://www.mglavionics.co.za/ the newest on is the Odyssey. Point here is for VFR flight, you could easy and affordably put flat panel display in a KR that would be reliable, light weight and have a pleathera of information at your hands. Pretty nice combination in my book. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009
KR> Unsure about practices.
Darren, while your conclusion is generally dictated in 43.13, there are examples where the use of a self locking nut is acceptable. A couple of examples: picture an aileron bellcrank with a hollow core pivot point, if a spacer is inserted through that pivot point which allows the nylok to tighten up against the spacer, even though the bellcrank moves, the bolt/nylok combination does not. Another example would be an aileron pivot bracket mounted to a wing. Once again, if a spacer is used between the two flanges of the bracket, which allows the nylok to tighten down, it is acceptable. I was careful to use the word generally in my first sentence as there are places where a piece moves and a nylok is acceptable. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme
KR> Group flight to Oshkosh
> From: flyk...@charter.net > P.S. Yes Dana you and Black Magic are invited too. > Mark Jones (N886MJ) Hah, I would have stealthed my way onto the ramp anyway.but thanks for the official invite:-) Since it is Friday, and before anyone posts "there was this time I was inverted in the twin, at night, in the clouds" and someone posst back, in 1973 "me too" but in a double throw me down self design with a john deere engine.come on gang, laugh a little... Here is the latest on my little ol "areplane" http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=40844 Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009
KR> Another sunset picture...instead of flyin
> From: n5...@hiwaay.net I couldn't make it to Dana's today, since the ceilings were 200' until noon. I guess I could have made it OK since I was seeing blue skies shortly thereafter, but it would have been a short visit. > Mark Langford I was hoping that Mark, Joe and Dan were going to be able to make it to my flyin this past Saturdaythere, it's KR related...but the weather north and south of my home airport was, as Mark said, were low ceilings in the morning. This kept many people away. Wish you guys could have made it. Just a little aviation news though, here are pics of some of the 34 airplanes which did show up 35 http://tinyurl.com/ccboh6 if you count one lil ol black aeroplane which is based at i39. Watch out, you may be under black op surveillance anytime now!! Get off this computer and into your shop, it's much more fun flying than building. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009
KR> Back to airplane talk
Time to ease this forum back towards airplanes instead of chest thumping: Here is a synopsis of my weekend: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=40352 Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme
KR> Registering an experimental
> From: markweg...@charter.net if it > is a Smith 22, guess what, the insurance company has never heard of it; > expect to pay major premium dollars (even though experimentals are pretty > expensive anyway). > > Mark W > N952MW Just a heads up to from recent experience. I registered my RV as a DO-7. When I insured it, I relayed to the carrier that my airplane was built from an RV kit. Lots of people do similar registrations and it does not effect insurance rates. Get out in the shop and off this computer, great flying weather will soon be here!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows Live? Hotmail®:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009
KR> repairman's certificate
John, after having just gone through the process I would encourage you to do some google research on this topic. Although there is no 51% rule on acquiring the repairman's certificate, you must exhibit to the FSDO officials you are acutely knowledgeable of the construction of the aircraft and it's systems. You must exhibit to the level the FSDO official deems nessissary for you to safely conduct the condition inspection. For me, they went through my website then three of sat down and an discussed the construction all the way through what I used as firewall pass throughs for my engine control cables. While I agree anyone can apply, in my case if you were not accutely aware of the construction and systems of Black Magic, the FAA and the local FSDO would have cleaned your clock for signing section IV of form 8610-2. Remember, receiving your special airworthiness certificate for an experimental and receiving the repairmans certificate for that same airplane are two totally different things and they use two different standards. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > Subject: Re: KR> repairman's certificate > From: johng...@comcast.net > To: kr...@mylist.net > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:49:42 -0800 > > > This is exactly the point that the EAA guy at the Arlington airshow last > year wanted to debunk. The guy from the EAA insisted that the best time > to buy is just before the repairman cert is applied for. He insisted > that "Anyone" can apply for it. If you buy the project, you or your > mother, or anyone you'd like can apply for it. > > I pressed him on the point because that would make the purchase timing > critical and the value of the project would vary wildly depending on the > status of this issue. > > Anywho, the EAA guy was firm: you don't have to drive a single rivet (or > squeegee a single drop of resin) to qualify for the repairman's cert. It > is expected that a "project leader" type would apply. However, you may > run into an official that won't cooperate with you because some > competence in the field of aircraft repair is expected (not required). > > Can anyone quote the "regs" on this issue? > > thanks > > jg > > > > > > On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 18:05 +, Jeff Scott wrote: > > > Rule #2. A builder must complete 51% of the tasks involved in building the > > aircraft to qualify for the repairman's certificate. Please note that I > > said tasks, not 51% of the work. This is how the 3 weeks to taxi places > > work. You drive one rivet in a wing skin and a team of workers drive the > > rest while you work with them. In that sense, you have completed the task > > of riveting the wing skin, even though your one rivet may be the one that > > is is hammered in flat and looks crappy. > > > > > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/
KR> i39, Richmond, Madison Flyin March 7th.
Let get some KR's here!!!
i39, Richmond, Madison Kickoff Flyin is
officially on the books for Saturday March 7th.
We have had a new business take over the FBO. Warbirds of America also
has relocated to the corporate hangar. The appearance of the FBO has
substantially changed along with the attitudes and environment. The
airport is once again a nice place to hang out. I'll talk again to the
new owners about having a fuel truck so no long lines will be present
at the fuel farm.
i39 is located in Central Kentucky, just south of Lexington. We have
had over 100 GA aircraft here for this one day flyin. The list of RV
goes from RV-3s to Evos, Harmons, Supers to 4's, 6's, 7's, 8's,
9'sbut no 10's as of last year. Let's change that one. This is a
very low key, get the birds out and stretch those legs after the prior
couple of months of winter weather flying. I'm not going to jinx the
weather, suffice to say we have had a couple good years of weather.
Remember, if you fly in there will be no ambulances,
firetrucks or emergency personnel on sitethere, that out of
the way.
We will once again have free coffee, donuts, Hooters wings,
hotdogs, colas, water and..again
this year...a client is showing up with his mobile corn
roaster!!
Starting time is light 30 with closing at dark 30. Bring your camera
and best lies, you will need the best of both. No vendors, no $3
hotdogs, no forums, no nothing, just airplanes and friends. Be careful,
this is an uncontrolled airfield with no NOTAMS, no nothing, safety is
up to you.
Keep your head on a swivel and use the radio. You know the drill.
Looking forward to seeing everyone nice and early. 60 degrees and
sunshine.YES, that's what we are pulling for!!
If you are driving in and would like to spend the night in the area, below is a
list of local hotels:
Comfort Suites
859 624-0770
Next to Cracker Barrel
Hampton Inn
859 626-1002
Next to Bob Evans
Holiday Inn Express & Suites
859 624-4088
Walking distance Bob Evans
Best Western
859 623-9220
Same as above
Jameson Inn
859 623-0063
Bob Evans shares parking lot
La Quinta
859 623-9121
Near Cracker Barrel
Ramada Limited
859 626-8676
Same as above
Me cell phone is 859 625-2844 with home 859 369-7582
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Dana Overall
1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7, "Black Magic" Flying.well sorta useta
http://rvflying.tripod.com
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4
Barrett Precision O-360 AIA
Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2
VAF #993
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KR> Fun Friday
> From: t...@telus.net > What's the scoop? > Inqiuring minds want to know ;-) > CL-Tim See the link below for the full story: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=30410 For those rather new to this list, we started Fun Friday several years ago. The idea is we reserve Friday for posting aviation related threads which may not be KR specific. Remember though, keep it aviation related and non toxic. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008
KR> Fun Friday
I never thought I'd walk out and find this: http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7715/smash036no7.jpg But here is the state of Black Magic as of this morning. http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8719/wheelpants021yb4.jpg Keep on building you KR guys, or as they say on the Dark Side...keep on pounding, er gluing, it's worth it!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider "Black Magic" Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda Barrett Precision O 360 A1A Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackmagic.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMi05-WU2D0#GU5U2spHI_4 http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _ Get 5 GB of storage with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_5gb_112008
