KR> Nose gear bracket for corvair powered KR

2016-01-13 Thread Paul VISK
This is what I did with my Corvair using an MA-3. ?There was no way it was 
going to work without doing this. ?The 2.5 scat hose will just barely fit below 
the carb to my carb heat filter box. I was told the Ellison might have been a 
better choice with it mounting horizontal.?

Paul ViskBelleville Il618-406-4705

 Original message From: Dave McCauley via KRnet  Date: 1/13/2016  2:28 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: krnet at 
list.krnet.org Cc: Dave McCauley  Subject: KR> 
Nose gear bracket for corvair powered KR 
I am building a tri-gear Corvair powered KR-Super2 which uses the same nose
wheel setup as the KR.? I have a nose gear assembly from a VW powered KR but
the bracket is braced directly to the motor mount.? I don't think this works
for me.? Does anyone with a Corvair powered tri-gear KR2 or KR2S have a
picture of their nose gear mount that I can use as a reference?? Can you
send it to me? at? <mailto:davesmccauley at comcast.net>
davesmccauley at comcast.net

The address of a website with a picture would work as well.



Thanks,

Dave McCauley

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KR> Nose gear bracket for corvair powered KR

2016-01-13 Thread Dave McCauley
I am building a tri-gear Corvair powered KR-Super2 which uses the same nose
wheel setup as the KR.  I have a nose gear assembly from a VW powered KR but
the bracket is braced directly to the motor mount.  I don't think this works
for me.  Does anyone with a Corvair powered tri-gear KR2 or KR2S have a
picture of their nose gear mount that I can use as a reference?  Can you
send it to me  at  
davesmccauley at comcast.net

The address of a website with a picture would work as well.



Thanks,

Dave McCauley



KR> Nose Gear Pictures

2011-06-28 Thread Margaret Davis
hi paul  just looking at the photos you put on the kr.net,do you know if thats 
a 
homemade nosegear setup or was it maybe bought somewhere.  im want to put a 
nose 
gear on mine (looking for ideas)  thanks brad davis augusta,maine-usa





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To: Chris corbine <chriscorb...@yahoo.com>; KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 6:39:45 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear Pictures

-Original Message-
Chris Corbine wrote:
I would appreciate I could get few detailed pictures of some currently
mounted. 


You can see mine here
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/2008/06/kr-2s-nose-landing-gear.html


Paul Smith
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/


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KR> Nose Gear Pictures

2011-06-28 Thread Paul & Karen Smith
-Original Message-
Chris Corbine wrote:
I would appreciate I could get few detailed pictures of some currently
mounted. 


You can see mine here
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/2008/06/kr-2s-nose-landing-gear.html


Paul Smith
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/



KR> Nose Gear Pictures

2011-06-27 Thread Chris corbine
Netters,

I am trying to workout some questions about the nose gear.  I would appreciate 
I could get few detailed pictures of some currently mounted.  Also, I would 
appreciate any information regarding mounting instructions (other than the ones 
that are on the Diehl website).  Had some nose gear issues on N5834 
(Porkopolis) and I'm trying to remount the nose wheel.

Thanks,
Chris Corbine


KR> nose gear question

2011-06-18 Thread Margaret Davis
hi quys im new to the net, would someone with a tri gear kr-2 with a diehl nose 
gear know the measurement between the fuselage (just below n.g.bracket) and the 
ground, with what size tire.  thanks


KR> Nose Gear Needed for Tricycle Set-up

2011-04-24 Thread Chris corbine
All,

I'm looking to purchase a nose gear.  I'd like to get one inexpensive. Or does 
anyone know of a very good substitute, that is different than the one sold by 
NV 
Aero?  I would be interested in that as well.  Just purchased N5834 and noticed 
an issue with the nose gear. Can the components of the nose gear be purchased 
separate?  If so, where?  


Thanks,
Chris Corbine


KR> Nose gear leg

2010-02-25 Thread Tim
Look below all my Davis stuff you'll see RV-10 Nose gear drwMay give you 
some ideas

http://www3.telus.net/project-aviation/project-aviation/ 



KR> Nose gear leg

2010-02-25 Thread Oscar Zuniga

Robert: if you'll go to the KRNet homepage, there are links to the original 
newsletter.  In one of those is an article on a nosegear setup with the 
information that you need.  It's all right here: 
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kro12_96.html

Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net





KR> Nose gear leg

2010-02-25 Thread Hall, Rodney CTR NNSY, C210
Start with the size of the standard nose gear and go up from there if you need 
too but not down. 

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rkp...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 19:52
To: krnet
Subject: KR> Nose gear leg



Hi everyone, 

  I would like to build my own nose gear assembly. The question I have is, What 
would be a safe tube and wall dimension . I have seen some great looking home 
made nose gear but didn't look to see what kine of material was used. 

 



    Robert K. Pesak 

    Hermitage,Tn. 
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KR> Nose gear leg

2010-02-24 Thread rkp...@comcast.net


Hi everyone, 

  I would like to build my own nose gear assembly. The question I have is, What 
would be a safe tube and wall dimension . I have seen some great looking home 
made nose gear but didn't look to see what kine of material was used. 

 



    Robert K. Pesak 

    Hermitage,Tn. 


KR> nose gear

2010-02-01 Thread rkp...@comcast.net


Hi everyone 

  Anyone out there have a nose gear assembly they would to sell? If so please 
let me know. I am getting ready to order one,but I thought I would check with 
everyone first. 






  Robert Pesak 

  Hermitage, Tn.


KR> Nose gear

2009-10-29 Thread Larry Knox
I will have to check to see if I have 2 nose gear. I think I have to tail
dragger and only one nose dragger set ups. I want to keep one for each Boat
I have. I will try to check tomorrow. Larry

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Of airgu...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:48 PM
To: KRnet Posting
Subject: KR> Nose gear

A friend of mine who has a different aircraft type is looking for a KR nose
gear. Anyone got one in the back of the garage not being used? 


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KR> Nose gear

2009-10-29 Thread airgu...@comcast.net
A friend of mine who has a different aircraft type is looking for a KR nose 
gear. Anyone got one in the back of the garage not being used? 



KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Rick / Pam
Does anyone have a nose gear for sale for a kr2?

Rick  d...@defnet.com


KR> Nose Gear Parts

2008-10-12 Thread sidney.w...@l-3com.com
The tire and rim are in Wicks Aircraft Supply
  catalog.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD USA
sidney.w...@l-3com.com


The TR100-22 is the nose wheel tire. It is the only one that will work
with Diehl nose gear. The wheel he needs for it is an AZUSA 5" aluminum
wheel part # AZ-1144.

Mark Jones (N886MJ) 
Wales, WI 
Web site: www.flykr2s.com 
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com 

Jim:

I just purchased the Nose-Gear Ass'y fo r my KR2.

Address as Follows:

Diehl Aero-Nautical Co
1855 N. Elm
Jenks OK 74037
Ph. (918) 299-4445
Fax.(918) 299-4425
E-Mail dan at deihlaero.com  


Jim Sellars wrote:

>Fellows;
>   I would like some assistance in getting the nose gear assembly




KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Pat Driscoll
Mark said:
   COUGH>>>COUGH>>>COUGH.BULLSHIT

   That isn't proper for the high class in which we hold the KR Net. 
   You should have said, COUGH>>>COUGH>>>COUGHBOVINE EXCRETMENT
Pat Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN 
patric...@usfamily.net
http://www.freewebs.com/patrick1936/
LIFE MAY NOT BE THE PARTY WE HOPED FOR
BUT WHILE WE ARE HERE WE MIGHT AS WELL DANCE!"






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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Pat Driscoll
fOR GOT TO ADD  :-)
Pat Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN 
patric...@usfamily.net
http://www.freewebs.com/patrick1936/
LIFE MAY NOT BE THE PARTY WE HOPED FOR
BUT WHILE WE ARE HERE WE MIGHT AS WELL DANCE!"






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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread George M


Mark Jones wrote:

>Dang...I don't know what to do
>
>  
>
Mark take a good look at the picture I sent the other day about wing 
loading.  There you will see 2 mains buried in the sand bags,  little 
tail wheel in the back and ...  retracted nose gear up front!!!
  Convertible!!!
This will solve all your problems. :-)

Here is link again: http://www.hsweb.net/bx2/misc/image049web.jpg

GeorgeM
Long Island, NY




KR> nose gear/ $ 57K

2008-10-12 Thread Bob Glidden
I'd give you $57.50 for it.

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com



KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
How many nose gear failures have there been on KRs with the Diehl setup or
any setup and what part failed? i.e. The strut the lower mount or engine
mount



Thanks



 Eric Pitts

KR2S w/engine mount beening shipped today

Terre Haute Indiana





KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Eric, 
You have to have a MOUNT AND NOSE GEAR BEFORE YOU WORRY ABOUT THAT!!!

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:13 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Nose gear failures


How many nose gear failures have there been on KRs with the Diehl setup
or
any setup and what part failed? i.e. The strut the lower mount or engine
mount



Thanks



 Eric Pitts

KR2S w/engine mount beening shipped today

Terre Haute Indiana



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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Now to answer your question, I have not heard of any failures. I have
heard of guys who were leery of the nose gear strut and filled it with
carbon fiber rods and epoxy to strengthen it. Personally, I do not feel
this is necessary and only adds weight.  When you taxi a nose wheel KR,
there is very little actual weight on the nose gear. If you hit a bump
in the taxiway, the nose will actually lift off the pavement. Of course,
when the KR is on the ramp and no pilot is inside the CG moves farther
forward which results in more weight on the nose gear. Again, this is of
no concern to me as I have many times manually lifted the nose off the
ground. When I did a W, there was 217 lbs on the nose wheel with the
Corvair engine installed.
Don't worry, you should have no problems with the Diehl nose gear.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:13 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Nose gear failures


How many nose gear failures have there been on KRs with the Diehl setup
or
any setup and what part failed? i.e. The strut the lower mount or engine
mount



Thanks



 Eric Pitts

KR2S w/engine mount beening shipped today

Terre Haute Indiana



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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
I was told my mount will ship today UPS, the rest I have just need to weld
it to the mount. Just wanting to know how safe they are for grass strips.



Eric Pitts

KR2S

Terre Haute Indiana







KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
The only thing with the Diehl nose gear is that the only size tire that
will fit is the TR100-022 tire from Wicks which is a Shin 3.40x3.00x5
which is a fairly small tire. If the grass strip is well groomed and
very smooth, you should have no problem as long as you do soft field
landings which are very easy to do in a KR. I consistently land on the
mains holding the nose off until the elevator no longer has any effect
and lets the nose settle. So far, I have not landed or taken off from
grass in my KR. I have taxied in grass and had no problem. I use full up
elevator when I do just to help keep weight off the nose.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:14 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Nose gear failures


I was told my mount will ship today UPS, the rest I have just need to
weld
it to the mount. Just wanting to know how safe they are for grass
strips.



Eric Pitts

KR2S

Terre Haute Indiana





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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
Mark and Eric:

I concur with Mark Jones on this one as it backs my assesment of the nose
gear question but mine has yet to fly and I have know experience.

Don
  

Mark Jones wrote:

> The only thing with the Diehl nose gear is that the only size tire that
> will fit is the TR100-022 tire from Wicks which is a Shin 3.40x3.00x5
> which is a fairly small tire. If the grass strip is well groomed and
> very smooth, you should have no problem as long as you do soft field
> landings which are very easy to do in a KR. I consistently land on the
> mains holding the nose off until the elevator no longer has any effect
> and lets the nose settle. So far, I have not landed or taken off from
> grass in my KR. I have taxied in grass and had no problem. I use full up
> elevator when I do just to help keep weight off the nose.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Web site: www.flykr2s.com
> Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:14 AM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> Nose gear failures
>
> I was told my mount will ship today UPS, the rest I have just need to
> weld
> it to the mount. Just wanting to know how safe they are for grass
> strips.
>
>
>
> Eric Pitts
>
> KR2S
>
> Terre Haute Indiana
>
>
>
>
>
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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Joseph H. Horton
Eric, 
Just working from memory here but I think that I knew of 2 and
one was on a grass field, I think that both folded the strut it's self. I
am sure they were both before 1999 as I first found out about them when I
joined the net. Having said that I have damaged mine while beating the
runway into submission on one of my very early flights. It took 4.5 g's
to bend it 4 deg's. Dan did not have a new one in stock to replace it so
he told me to bend it back just this once. It took all my weight and
strength an a 8 ft lever with the strut fit between 2 trailer hitch balls
on my truck bumper to get it back in shape. Mark is right about it not
having that much weight on it. Mine was 215#.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:12:32 -0400 Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
 writes:
> How many nose gear failures have there been on KRs with the Diehl 
> setup or
> any setup and what part failed? i.e. The strut the lower mount or 
> engine
> mount
> 



KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Jack Cooper
Eric
Gene Byrd had a Deihl nose gear on his KR prior to his crash. He was flying
off a grass strip, not the smoothest in the world but also not too bad.
Although he never had a failure his strut bent just above the nose wheel
fork. He had a gusset welded in and continued to fly it until he got a new
strut from Diehl. Gene told me that Dan Diehl said it would happen again if
he continued to land on grass. 

Jack Cooper
kr2coo...@earthlink.net
Fayetteville. NC.


> [Original Message]
> From: Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO <eric.pi...@interr.ang.af.mil>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Date: 7/6/2006 9:13:09 AM
> Subject: KR> Nose gear failures
>
> How many nose gear failures have there been on KRs with the Diehl setup or
> any setup and what part failed? i.e. The strut the lower mount or engine
> mount
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
>  Eric Pitts
>
> KR2S w/engine mount beening shipped today
>
> Terre Haute Indiana
>
>  
>
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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
Netters:

You may have control over the condition of the strip from which you fly but
how do you know what the strip you go to only once or not often?

The bigger problem is the small wheel(s)!

Don
  



Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO wrote:

> Netters
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info, sounds like it could use a little beef up for grass
> plus the strip needs to be smooth.
>
>
>
> Eric Pitts
>
> KR2S
>
> Terre Haute Indiana
>
>
>
>
>
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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
One way to beef it up would be to have a fairing welded on the back side
of the strut. This could be made from matching steel and would serve two
purposes, added strength plus aerodynamics. H.sounds like a
plan for this winter.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


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Behalf Of Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:26 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> Nose gear failures


Netters



Thanks for the info, sounds like it could use a little beef up for grass
plus the strip needs to be smooth.



Eric Pitts

KR2S 

Terre Haute Indiana





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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
Mark 



You could beef it up that way, you just need to make sure you do not take
the heat treating out of the strut.  Use small short welds Or have it
retreated 



Eric Pitts

KR2S

Terre Haute Indiana







KR> Nose gear Fairing

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
Dan Told me if I weld my nose leg, I would have to send it away to be heat
treated. He did tell me the temp. but I do not have it with me. ??



Phillip Matheson
0408665880 (cell)
VHPKR
Australia.
mathes...@dodo.com.au
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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
There have been at least a couple that I have heard about.  I do remember
that the early ones from Diehl were different than the ones he is making
now.  If I recall correctly he is filling the tube with a composite material
now.  Or maybe they were composite before and now they are a steel tube or
vice versa.  Anyway, I know that there was definitely a design change and
the last time I spoke to him about it a few years ago he was giving free
exchanges to the new type of tube if you had the old one.  Call him up and
see what the difference is and if you have the old or new type.  You will be
hard pressed to find a better and more friendly person to deal with than
Dan.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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Behalf Of Joseph H. Horton
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:09 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Nose gear failures


Eric,
Just working from memory here but I think that I knew of 2 and
one was on a grass field, I think that both folded the strut it's self. I
am sure they were both before 1999 as I first found out about them when I
joined the net. Having said that I have damaged mine while beating the
runway into submission on one of my very early flights. It took 4.5 g's
to bend it 4 deg's. Dan did not have a new one in stock to replace it so
he told me to bend it back just this once. It took all my weight and
strength an a 8 ft lever with the strut fit between 2 trailer hitch balls
on my truck bumper to get it back in shape. Mark is right about it not
having that much weight on it. Mine was 215#.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:12:32 -0400 Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
<eric.pi...@interr.ang.af.mil> writes:
> How many nose gear failures have there been on KRs with the Diehl
> setup or
> any setup and what part failed? i.e. The strut the lower mount or
> engine
> mount
>

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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
Brian:

I purchased my Diehl Nose gear in the last month, it is hollow.

I only had a problem wth the heel of the pad that attached to the left motor
mount.
I had to grind off the heel of the pad up to the weld of the brace to clear the
GP (5)
point mount.  It would also help if  told you the tire size that fits the nose
wheel fork.

Don Lively
Burlington, IA
  

Brian Kraut wrote:

> There have been at least a couple that I have heard about.  I do remember
> that the early ones from Diehl were different than the ones he is making
> now.  If I recall correctly he is filling the tube with a composite material
> now.  Or maybe they were composite before and now they are a steel tube or
> vice versa.  Anyway, I know that there was definitely a design change and
> the last time I spoke to him about it a few years ago he was giving free
> exchanges to the new type of tube if you had the old one.  Call him up and
> see what the difference is and if you have the old or new type.  You will be
> hard pressed to find a better and more friendly person to deal with than
> Dan.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Joseph H. Horton
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:09 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> Nose gear failures
>
> Eric,
> Just working from memory here but I think that I knew of 2 and
> one was on a grass field, I think that both folded the strut it's self. I
> am sure they were both before 1999 as I first found out about them when I
> joined the net. Having said that I have damaged mine while beating the
> runway into submission on one of my very early flights. It took 4.5 g's
> to bend it 4 deg's. Dan did not have a new one in stock to replace it so
> he told me to bend it back just this once. It took all my weight and
> strength an a 8 ft lever with the strut fit between 2 trailer hitch balls
> on my truck bumper to get it back in shape. Mark is right about it not
> having that much weight on it. Mine was 215#.
> Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
> joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
>
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:12:32 -0400 Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO
> <eric.pi...@interr.ang.af.mil> writes:
> > How many nose gear failures have there been on KRs with the Diehl
> > setup or
> > any setup and what part failed? i.e. The strut the lower mount or
> > engine
> > mount
> >
>
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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
My first one was Glass, I contacted Dan and he replaced it with a thick wall
4130 , no charge only frieght to Australia, as they were all meant to have
been relaced due to some failures, but the new are very strong. and heat
treated.

Phillip Matheson
0408665880 (cell)
VHPKR
Australia.
mathes...@dodo.com.au
NEW WEB PAGE
www.philskr2.50megs.com

http://www.vw-engines.com/
OLD WEB PAGE
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KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Joe Beyer


>Eric, 

>Just working from memory here but I think that I knew of 2 and

>one was on a grass field, I think that both folded the strut it's self. I

>am sure they were both before 1999 as I first found out about them when I

>joined the net. 



I folded mine in July 2000 due to a hard landing. You get a real good view
of the runway. I made the tube stronger at the pivot point by welding an
extra tube on the outside of the strut where the drag braces attach. Since
then I have had shimmy problems which I think I've solved by adding stronger
bellview washers.   



-Joe



PDX



KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread ifly...@aol.com
I dont think I'll EVER have a nose gear failure on mine.   My  plane was 
built correctly!.Bill and 41768



KR> Nose gear failures

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
COUGH>>>COUGH>>>COUGH.BULLSHIT

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


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ifly...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:16 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Nose gear failures


I dont think I'll EVER have a nose gear failure on mine.   My  plane was

built correctly!.Bill and 41768

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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
I GOT IT!!!  THE REASON FOR ALL THE NOSE GEAR FAILURES IS THAT IT IS ONLY 
TEMPORARY!
Just meant to be a training wheel until the pilot graduates to real 
gear/conventional style.

Sorry Mark Jones; couldn't resist!  Have a happy Friday all!

Colin
N96TA
Ormond Beach, FL




KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
I give up, could a conversion be eminent this winter to a tail dragger?
But I can just see it now, I make the conversion then all of you start
building trikes and I would have to convert back to be in the IN-Crowd.
Dang...I don't know what to do

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:27 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> nose gear


I GOT IT!!!  THE REASON FOR ALL THE NOSE GEAR FAILURES IS THAT IT IS
ONLY TEMPORARY!
Just meant to be a training wheel until the pilot graduates to real
gear/conventional style.

Sorry Mark Jones; couldn't resist!  Have a happy Friday all!

Colin
N96TA
Ormond Beach, FL


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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
There is only one way to answer the question.  Find an instructor with a Cub
or Citabria or something and take a few hours of tailwheel instruction.  You
will love it and want to convert or you won't.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:49 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> nose gear


I give up, could a conversion be eminent this winter to a tail dragger?
But I can just see it now, I make the conversion then all of you start
building trikes and I would have to convert back to be in the IN-Crowd.
Dang...I don't know what to do

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:27 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> nose gear


I GOT IT!!!  THE REASON FOR ALL THE NOSE GEAR FAILURES IS THAT IT IS
ONLY TEMPORARY!
Just meant to be a training wheel until the pilot graduates to real
gear/conventional style.

Sorry Mark Jones; couldn't resist!  Have a happy Friday all!

Colin
N96TA
Ormond Beach, FL


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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Not necessary as I have time in J-3, Citabria, Taylorcraft, Cessna 180
and Champs. I love taildraggers but I seriously doubt that I will
convert my KR to one. All I have on my mind now is flying. Heck, I can't
even seem to find time to finish the wheel pants.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Brian
Kraut
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:05 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> nose gear


There is only one way to answer the question.  Find an instructor with a
Cub
or Citabria or something and take a few hours of tailwheel instruction.
You
will love it and want to convert or you won't.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:49 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> nose gear


I give up, could a conversion be eminent this winter to a tail dragger?
But I can just see it now, I make the conversion then all of you start
building trikes and I would have to convert back to be in the IN-Crowd.
Dang...I don't know what to do

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:27 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> nose gear


I GOT IT!!!  THE REASON FOR ALL THE NOSE GEAR FAILURES IS THAT IT IS
ONLY TEMPORARY!
Just meant to be a training wheel until the pilot graduates to real
gear/conventional style.

Sorry Mark Jones; couldn't resist!  Have a happy Friday all!

Colin
N96TA
Ormond Beach, FL


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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
Then we can't make fun of you for not being a real pilot any more.  And it
was so much fun!

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:29 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> nose gear


Not necessary as I have time in J-3, Citabria, Taylorcraft, Cessna 180
and Champs. I love taildraggers but I seriously doubt that I will
convert my KR to one. All I have on my mind now is flying. Heck, I can't
even seem to find time to finish the wheel pants.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Brian
Kraut
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:05 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> nose gear


There is only one way to answer the question.  Find an instructor with a
Cub
or Citabria or something and take a few hours of tailwheel instruction.
You
will love it and want to convert or you won't.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

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From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:49 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> nose gear


I give up, could a conversion be eminent this winter to a tail dragger?
But I can just see it now, I make the conversion then all of you start
building trikes and I would have to convert back to be in the IN-Crowd.
Dang...I don't know what to do

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:27 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> nose gear


I GOT IT!!!  THE REASON FOR ALL THE NOSE GEAR FAILURES IS THAT IT IS
ONLY TEMPORARY!
Just meant to be a training wheel until the pilot graduates to real
gear/conventional style.

Sorry Mark Jones; couldn't resist!  Have a happy Friday all!

Colin
N96TA
Ormond Beach, FL


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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Joseph H. Horton
SELL  or get one of each
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 10:49:18 -0500 "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
writes:
> I give up, could a conversion be eminent this winter to a tail 
> dragger?
> But I can just see it now, I make the conversion then all of you 
> start
> building trikes and I would have to convert back to be in the 
> IN-Crowd.
> Dang...I don't know what to do
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Web site: www.flykr2s.com
> Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:27 AM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> nose gear
> 
> 
> I GOT IT!!!  THE REASON FOR ALL THE NOSE GEAR FAILURES IS THAT IT 
> IS
> ONLY TEMPORARY!
> Just meant to be a training wheel until the pilot graduates to real
> gear/conventional style.
> 
> Sorry Mark Jones; couldn't resist!  Have a happy Friday all!
> 
> Colin
> N96TA
> Ormond Beach, FL
> 
> 
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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Oh, it is for sale...always has been. It's just the price went up to
$57,000.00 when I painted it.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
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H. Horton
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 12:05 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> nose gear


SELL  or get one of each
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 10:49:18 -0500 "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
writes:
> I give up, could a conversion be eminent this winter to a tail 
> dragger?
> But I can just see it now, I make the conversion then all of you 
> start
> building trikes and I would have to convert back to be in the 
> IN-Crowd.
> Dang...I don't know what to do
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Web site: www.flykr2s.com
> Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:27 AM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: KR> nose gear
> 
> 
> I GOT IT!!!  THE REASON FOR ALL THE NOSE GEAR FAILURES IS THAT IT 
> IS
> ONLY TEMPORARY!
> Just meant to be a training wheel until the pilot graduates to real
> gear/conventional style.
> 
> Sorry Mark Jones; couldn't resist!  Have a happy Friday all!
> 
> Colin
> N96TA
> Ormond Beach, FL
> 
> 
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KR> Nose-Gear Alignment

2008-10-12 Thread Joseph H. Horton
That all sounds reasonable to set up for drilling. I did it with a level
making the strut plumb. The one thing that Dan told me recently is that
the vertical leg that the nose heel attaches to must trail by 5 deg. or
you well surely have nose wheel shimmy. I also left the strut  a little
long on purpose when cutting it to give just a little extra for prop
clearance. I think that I picked up an extra inch that way and it is not
noticeable sitting on the ground.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:43:54 -0500 "D. F. Lively" 
writes:
> Hi Netters:
> 
> I looked in the archives and would like some direction on Nose gear 
> 
> alignment.
> 
> 
> I have installed the Nose-Gear ass'y and  GP 5 pt mount on my KR but 
> now 
> wish to locate the holes in the front strut accurately.
> 
> I was going to level the craft "left to right" using a self-leveling 
> 
> "Laser Level" and then turn the nose strut in its reciever until it 
> is 
> perpendicular to the vertical  "Lazer Cross-hair"  so I can mark 
> where 
> it must be drilled for attachment into its receptical.  --Does this 
> seem 
> like a good proceedure?
> 
> After that is done the instructions say something about cutting off  
> the 
> nose-gear strut  so the  the nose gear will allow the plane to sit 
> level..My question is methodology so as not to make a mistake 
> here 
> and also drilling the Mtg Bolt in the correct place to avoid the 
> potential for "Shimmy"?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Don Lively
> Burlington IA 52601
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KR> Nose-Gear Alignment

2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
Joe:

Thanks Joe.  I was worried about "Shimmy" maybe will wait until I get the
engine be fore I cut anything from the tube and just leave it set nose high
and just attach the nose wheel Assy temporarily to Facilitate in moving the
craft about on its wheels.

How did you set-up your brake petals for differential braking to facilitate
steering?

Don
  

"Joseph H. Horton" wrote:

> That all sounds reasonable to set up for drilling. I did it with a level
> making the strut plumb. The one thing that Dan told me recently is that
> the vertical leg that the nose heel attaches to must trail by 5 deg. or
> you well surely have nose wheel shimmy. I also left the strut  a little
> long on purpose when cutting it to give just a little extra for prop
> clearance. I think that I picked up an extra inch that way and it is not
> noticeable sitting on the ground.
> Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
> joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
>
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:43:54 -0500 "D. F. Lively" 
> writes:
> > Hi Netters:
> >
> > I looked in the archives and would like some direction on Nose gear
> >
> > alignment.
> >
> >
> > I have installed the Nose-Gear ass'y and  GP 5 pt mount on my KR but
> > now
> > wish to locate the holes in the front strut accurately.
> >
> > I was going to level the craft "left to right" using a self-leveling
> >
> > "Laser Level" and then turn the nose strut in its reciever until it
> > is
> > perpendicular to the vertical  "Lazer Cross-hair"  so I can mark
> > where
> > it must be drilled for attachment into its receptical.  --Does this
> > seem
> > like a good proceedure?
> >
> > After that is done the instructions say something about cutting off
> > the
> > nose-gear strut  so the  the nose gear will allow the plane to sit
> > level..My question is methodology so as not to make a mistake
> > here
> > and also drilling the Mtg Bolt in the correct place to avoid the
> > potential for "Shimmy"?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Don Lively
> > Burlington IA 52601
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KR> Nose-Gear Alignment

2008-10-12 Thread Joseph H. Horton

> the vertical leg that the nose heel attaches to must trail by 5 deg. 
That's wheel not heel -- sorry (stupid spell check)
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KR> Nose-Gear Alignment

2008-10-12 Thread D. F. Lively
Hi Netters:

I looked in the archives and would like some direction on Nose gear 
alignment.


I have installed the Nose-Gear ass'y and  GP 5 pt mount on my KR but now 
wish to locate the holes in the front strut accurately.

I was going to level the craft "left to right" using a self-leveling 
"Laser Level" and then turn the nose strut in its reciever until it is 
perpendicular to the vertical  "Lazer Cross-hair"  so I can mark where 
it must be drilled for attachment into its receptical.  --Does this seem 
like a good proceedure?

After that is done the instructions say something about cutting off  the 
nose-gear strut  so the  the nose gear will allow the plane to sit 
level..My question is methodology so as not to make a mistake here 
and also drilling the Mtg Bolt in the correct place to avoid the 
potential for "Shimmy"?

Thanks in advance.

Don Lively
Burlington IA 52601


KR> Nose Gear

2008-10-12 Thread Jaco Swanepoel
Hi Guys,
  Do any of you have a good idea on making the nose gear stearable. The nose 
gear is completed and fitted. I have an idea of what I want to do, but I am not 
convinced. The nose gear is made from a motorbike strut with a remanufactured 
5mm wire thickness coil spring replacing the stock coil spring. I have a 
bracket fitted to the top outer sleeve of the strut, entering the cowling. I 
can easily fit pushrods between the rudder pedals and the bracket, but what 
should I do to absorb any shudder on the nose wheel. I thought of fitting coil 
springs over the pushrods, between the firewall and bracket, and then leaving 
some play on the pushrod at the bracket. This should ensure that a shudder does 
not have any reaction on the rudder via the pedals. The coil springs should 
also keep the nose wheel and rudder center with no input from the cockpit. Any 
thoughts please.
  Thanks,
  Jaco Swanepoel
  South Africa
  KR2S _ ZU-DVP  


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KR> Nose Gear

2008-10-12 Thread Stephen Teate
The pictures from Mt. Vernon look great and one of these days I hope to
be one of the participants. The last time I talked to Steve Jones it was
about the vacuum set-up he was using. He was in the process of doing a
little rework to the aircraft after an "exciting" landing. Until I saw
the pictures from Mt. Vernon I didn't realize that he changed his nose
gear. I know he built the old one himself but the new one looks like it
might be an RV type. Anyone know for sure?

Thanks in advance,

Stephen

ste...@compositecooling.com



KR> Nose Gear

2008-10-12 Thread Stephen Teate
Fair enough.
Thanks Eric

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:10 AM
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Subject: KR> Nose Gear

When I had talked to him about his nose gear, he had built it also but
was
running an RV fork and wheel pants.

Eric Pitts
Terre Haute IN
KR2S
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KR> NOSE GEAR LANDINGS

2008-10-12 Thread Larry H.
I attended a really neat flyin in East Texas this weekend. The place has a 
grass landing strip and is sandy soil. It has been dry there lately so it was 
kinda soft I guess you could say, at least after 400 airplanes had landed on it.
I was standing watching planes come and go. A unbelieveably beautifull RV6A 
landed, he seemed to have landed a little fast but what happened was sad. I 
noticed that the plane was bouncing as normal because of the not perfectly 
smooth terrain/runway. It looked to me like the guy was not holding enough aft 
stick just by looking at the elevator, plus he may have been on the brakes. As 
the plane was sorta bouncing up and down because of terrain it just seemed like 
he was letting too much weight be on the nose wheel ( remember soft field 
landing technique? hold the elevator all the way back once down, keep weight 
off of nose wheel on a nose wheel airplane). The bouncing, plus maybe braking, 
plus the leverage of the horizontal piece of metal on the side of a RV nose 
wheel bracketcoming from the pivot point to the axle caused the leading edge of 
the bracket to go downward and start digging into the ground. I don't know if 
the nose landing gear had already bent at this point but it started digging in 
more and more, and I believe this was worsened by the guy probably applying 
brakes. The planes nose gear finally dug in, the prop hit the ground then in 
seemingly slow motion the tail came up the nose bowl contacted the ground and 
the plane flipped upside down and slapped the ground with the verticle tail. 
Pieces of plexiglass broke and you could hear weird crashing metal noises as 
the plane slapped the ground upside down.
There was enough of us there to run immediately lift the plane high enough to 
get the two occupants out, then we flipped the plane back to it's mains and 
rolled it off to the side. 
Fortunately the two inside had minor injuries as far as we could tell. The 
builder pilot had some cuts and bruises, I think from the plexiglass. It was 
sharp as a razorblade at some of the broken edges. He had to go to the hospital 
for some stitches and I never heard if anything else was wrong with him. This 
plane had the sliding rearward canopy that you see on RVs. The front roll bar 
was bent, it looked like the metal on the side of the fuselage was bent some at 
the top from the load imposed by the plane flipping on the rollbar. We had a 
hard time moving the canopy rearward because of bending to get the occupants 
out.
Several things came to my mind. 1. What would those guys have done if we had 
not been there to get them out? What if they landed at a strip out somewhere 
where there was no one? There was fuel leaking in the area, what if it had 
started on fire? Lots of what ifs came to mind after seeing this take place.
What if he had held full aft stick? What if he had not applied brakes and just 
let it roll out? What if there was no roll bar? what if we had not been there? 
what if it had started immediately started on fire?
Any plane as you know can flip upside down, tail dragger as well as nose 
dragger. Plan ahead, what are you going to do if it were to happen to you? How 
are you going to get out if no one is around to help you? How are you going to 
get out fast before it starts on fire? Just because a plane does not start on 
fire immediately does not mean that it is not, so do not mess around. get out 
as fast as you can or get people out if you see an accident. We had the plane 
up and the people out in less than one minute or it seemed that fast. We ran 
lifted and got them out immediately, no questions were asked we just got them 
out.
Think about it people, do you have enough structure to protect you if you 
slammed the ground upside down. If not maybe you should start thinking about 
it. After I saw the metal tubing bend on the RV that was not going fast at all 
by the time it decided to flip upside down I have a totally different way of 
thinking now.
Larry Howell


The front roll bar was bent a little


KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Don Chisholm
I'm curious about prop clearances and what's available for  bigger diameter 
props as what would be used on a 0 200 Continental or 0 235 Lycoming.
I haven't looked at other designs yet but am interested in other peoples
  thoughts and experiences on the subject on the kr net




KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Don,
I have a clearance of 40 inches from my thrust line to the ground on my
Diehl nose gear.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com


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Behalf Of Don Chisholm
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:33 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> nose gear


I'm curious about prop clearances and what's available for  bigger
diameter 
props as what would be used on a 0 200 Continental or 0 235 Lycoming.
I haven't looked at other designs yet but am interested in other peoples
  thoughts and experiences on the subject on the kr net


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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Orma
Mark does that mean that if you are careful that you could run a 79 inch 
prop (smile)

Orma 





KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread larry flesner

>I have a clearance of 40 inches from my thrust line to the ground on my
>Diehl nose gear.
>Mark Jones (N886MJ)
+

I think the FAA likes to see a minimum of 9 inches prop to ground
clearance so in theory you could run a 60D or 62D (diameter) 
prop with your setup.

Larry Flesner





KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Yea, as long as my tire does not go flat. But then I could increase the
pressure in the front tire and lower the pressure in the main tires and
probably swing an 80 incher. :-)

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
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http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj


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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: KR> nose gear


> Mark does that mean that if you are careful that you could run a 79 inch
> prop (smile)
>
> Orma
>
>
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KR> nose gear

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Olson
... or, install some tundra tires.   ;)

Brian Olson
Alpharetta, GA
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: KR> nose gear


> Yea, as long as my tire does not go flat. But then I could increase the
> pressure in the front tire and lower the pressure in the main tires and
> probably swing an 80 incher. :-)
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Orma" <o...@aviation-mechanics.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> nose gear
> 
> 
>> Mark does that mean that if you are careful that you could run a 79 inch
>> prop (smile)
>>
>> Orma
>>
>>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread DENE COLLETT (SA)
Hi Pat
Well, there is nothing special about my gear except that it will retract.
The mains will be mounted to the wing attach fittings on the wing stubs and
retract towards the fuz with gear doors closing behind them. My nose wheel,
sorry make that training wheel, will also retract into a hole cut between
the
spar and 1/4" floor ply carrying the rudder pedals. The leg will be hidden
in a recess in a foam extension of the fuz much like Mark L's.There will
also be a door closing behind the wheel. The whole system will be
hydraulically actuated by an electric/hydraulic pump. As a backup the system
will be fitted with a manual bypass valve located in a convenient spot that
can be opened if the pump fails. This will allow fluid to flow directly from
the one side of the rams to the other without passing through the pump.
Extension will be assisted by regular automotive gas struts and gravity.
In short, if the pump fails: slow down, open bypass valve, gear extends and
locks and is not able to be retracted without hydraulic pressure.
The automatic extension system is merely a pressure switch contact hooked to
the or another pitot line in
parallel to the gear down contact with an interlock preventing simultaneous
selection of gear up(manually after take off) and gear down(automatic before
sufficient speed has been reached).
So far I have the main gear legs welded up and am working(slowly) on the
retract system. I will only be able to build the nose gear once I have an
engine mount for the corvair motor that I also don't have YET. Don't hold
your breath, this could take a while.For a look at what I will be doing,
take a look at the "infinity" aftermarket retract system they sell for the
canard range of aircraft. My retract system will work with small hydraulic
rams just like theirs. Now to find someone who can make me two custom
hydraulic rams.
Regards
Dene Collett
KR2S builder
Freelance whisper assembler
South Africa
mailto: dene.coll...@telkomsa.net

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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Dene
> Can you share the how to build and tuck the nose wheel bit with us?
> Pat
> - Original Message -
>
> > I will wimp out and fit mine with a "training wheel" but nobody will
know
> > anyway. It will be tucked away inside the fuz in flight with the mains.
> >
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread jeffyor...@qx.net
OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, I am 
going to try and get your alls advise.

Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose gear 
lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose came up 
and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set back down. I 
pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the nose gear touch 
down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually wondering if it was 
the nose wheel or something significantly out of balance with the engine. 
I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the tach and 
noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time getting the 
RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out ) type throttle so I 
began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally slowed down and I taxied 
off and back to my hanger.

Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears to hold 
the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was bent before I 
started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose wheel self 
centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told indicates that you 
have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In testing a couple of them 
at the gathering, I noticed they did not self center and those owners indicated 
they had no shimmy issues. By the way that information was not meant as any 
criticism of anyone else's KR. I just wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment 
to others while there.

Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much speed thus 
precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this centering bolt was 
already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still be contained ) ?

Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted to long and had to mush speed 
before I pulled the nose wheel come up? Thus precipitated the whole thing. 
Maybe I need to look at the nose gear at the point of the engine mount / fire 
wall?

Your thoughts experiences?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ 
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Jeff,
It sounds as if you are referring to the Diehl nose gear which is what I have. 
I have never had an issue with shimmy on mine. I have rotated at speeds as high 
as 75 mph and landed as high as 85 mph all with no shimmy. The spring on mine 
does not contact the centering bolt when the gear is lined up straight. There 
is (guessing) a 1/8" space on each side of the bolt between it and the spring. 
This allows for some free castering before contact with the spring. The purpose 
of the spring is to help align the nose wheel for landing. You mentioned the 
centering bolt being bent and I think you had to do that prior to your shimmy. 
With the stops on the nose gear, I just don't see how it could bend while 
taxiing. I can turn my plane either direction to it's limits and it will not 
bend the bolt. When you begin your take off roll, apply enough up elevator to 
relieve most of the weight off the nose wheel without taking it off the 
pavement. Once you establish enough speed to control the plane with rudder, 
gently raise the nose off the pavement and wait for the plane to fly itself off 
the runway. Upon landing and after the mains touch down, keep the nose up as 
long as possible until it settles on it's on onto the runway and continue to 
apply up elevator as you slow down. One thing to note is that with the nose 
gear, the plane will stay on the runway and not float in ground effect once the 
mains touch down. It will bounce on a hard landing as will any airplane.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:31 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Nose Gear question


OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, I am 
going to try and get your alls advise.

Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose gear 
lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose came up 
and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set back down. I 
pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the nose gear touch 
down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually wondering if it was 
the nose wheel or something significantly out of balance with the engine. 
I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the tach and 
noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time getting the 
RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out ) type throttle so I 
began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally slowed down and I taxied 
off and back to my hanger.

Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears to hold 
the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was bent before I 
started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose wheel self 
centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told indicates that you 
have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In testing a couple of them 
at the gathering, I noticed they did not self center and those owners indicated 
they had no shimmy issues. By the way that information was not meant as any 
criticism of anyone else's KR. I just wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment 
to others while there.

Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much speed thus 
precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this centering bolt was 
already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still be contained ) ?

Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted to long and had to mush speed 
before I pulled the nose wheel come up? Thus precipitated the whole thing. 
Maybe I need to look at the nose gear at the point of the engine mount / fire 
wall?

Your thoughts experiences?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ 
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread jeffyor...@qx.net
Yes, It is the Diehl. Yes there is a gap space between the on each side of
the bolt between it and the spring. NOt sure how the bolt would have gotten
bent. the bend is ever so slight. May be moot to the subject.
I am sure I was not doing 75 when I pulled off and not as high as 85 when I
touched back down so it helps to hear that you have been able to do so
without this issue. By the way, this is the first time my plane has done
this.
I also appreciate the info on your take off on your methods. This is why I
was hoping to catch a ride with someone at the gathering. Wanted to get more
info and feel from those flying, espesially with the same configuration as
mine.
I think I need to look closely at the nose gear back at the fire wall engine
mount side.

Anybody out there near Georgetown/ Lexington KY

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

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From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> Jeff,
> It sounds as if you are referring to the Diehl nose gear which is what I
have. I have never had an issue with shimmy on mine. I have rotated at
speeds as high as 75 mph and landed as high as 85 mph all with no shimmy.
The spring on mine does not contact the centering bolt when the gear is
lined up straight. There is (guessing) a 1/8" space on each side of the bolt
between it and the spring. This allows for some free castering before
contact with the spring. The purpose of the spring is to help align the nose
wheel for landing. You mentioned the centering bolt being bent and I think
you had to do that prior to your shimmy. With the stops on the nose gear, I
just don't see how it could bend while taxiing. I can turn my plane either
direction to it's limits and it will not bend the bolt. When you begin your
take off roll, apply enough up elevator to relieve most of the weight off
the nose wheel without taking it off the pavement. Once you establish enough
speed to control the plane with rudder, gently raise the nose off the
pavement and wait for the plane to fly itself off the runway. Upon landing
and after the mains touch down, keep the nose up as long as possible until
it settles on it's on onto the runway and continue to apply up elevator as
you slow down. One thing to note is that with the nose gear, the plane will
stay on the runway and not float in ground effect once the mains touch down.
It will bounce on a hard landing as will any airplane.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:31 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, I
am going to try and get your alls advise.
>
> Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose
gear lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose
came up and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set
back down. I pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the nose
gear touch down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually
wondering if it was the nose wheel or something significantly out of balance
with the engine.
> I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the tach
and noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time
getting the RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out ) type
throttle so I began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally slowed
down and I taxied off and back to my hanger.
>
> Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears to
hold the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was bent
before I started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose
wheel self centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told
indicates that you have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In
testing a couple of them at the gathering, I noticed they did not self
center and those owners indicated they had no shimmy issues. By the way that
information was not meant as any criticism of anyone else's KR. I just
wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment to others while there.
>
> Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much speed
thus precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this centering
bolt was already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still be contained )
?
>
> Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted t

KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread L. D. Mueller
You know that sometimes tire pressure will affect nose wheel shimmy. I 
hadn't seen that listed anywhere in reference to the shimmy issue.

Newbee KR project owner . . .

L. D. Mueller
521 North Madison Street
Cuba City, WI 53807
608-744-
- Original Message - 
From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Yes, It is the Diehl. Yes there is a gap space between the on each side of
> the bolt between it and the spring. NOt sure how the bolt would have 
> gotten
> bent. the bend is ever so slight. May be moot to the subject.
> I am sure I was not doing 75 when I pulled off and not as high as 85 when 
> I
> touched back down so it helps to hear that you have been able to do so
> without this issue. By the way, this is the first time my plane has done
> this.
> I also appreciate the info on your take off on your methods. This is why I
> was hoping to catch a ride with someone at the gathering. Wanted to get 
> more
> info and feel from those flying, espesially with the same configuration as
> mine.
> I think I need to look closely at the nose gear back at the fire wall 
> engine
> mount side.
>
> Anybody out there near Georgetown/ Lexington KY
>
> Jeff York
> KR-2 Flying
> N839BG
> Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> Email jeffyor...@qx.net
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:57 AM
> Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
>> Jeff,
>> It sounds as if you are referring to the Diehl nose gear which is what I
> have. I have never had an issue with shimmy on mine. I have rotated at
> speeds as high as 75 mph and landed as high as 85 mph all with no shimmy.
> The spring on mine does not contact the centering bolt when the gear is
> lined up straight. There is (guessing) a 1/8" space on each side of the 
> bolt
> between it and the spring. This allows for some free castering before
> contact with the spring. The purpose of the spring is to help align the 
> nose
> wheel for landing. You mentioned the centering bolt being bent and I think
> you had to do that prior to your shimmy. With the stops on the nose gear, 
> I
> just don't see how it could bend while taxiing. I can turn my plane either
> direction to it's limits and it will not bend the bolt. When you begin 
> your
> take off roll, apply enough up elevator to relieve most of the weight off
> the nose wheel without taking it off the pavement. Once you establish 
> enough
> speed to control the plane with rudder, gently raise the nose off the
> pavement and wait for the plane to fly itself off the runway. Upon landing
> and after the mains touch down, keep the nose up as long as possible until
> it settles on it's on onto the runway and continue to apply up elevator as
> you slow down. One thing to note is that with the nose gear, the plane 
> will
> stay on the runway and not float in ground effect once the mains touch 
> down.
> It will bounce on a hard landing as will any airplane.
>>
>> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> Wales, WI
>> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
>> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
>> Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:31 AM
>> To: KRnet
>> Subject: KR> Nose Gear question
>>
>>
>> OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, 
>> I
> am going to try and get your alls advise.
>>
>> Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose
> gear lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose
> came up and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set
> back down. I pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the 
> nose
> gear touch down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually
> wondering if it was the nose wheel or something significantly out of 
> balance
> with the engine.
>> I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the tach
> and noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time
> getting the RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out ) 
> type
> throttle so I began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally slowed
> down and I taxied off and back to my hanger.
>>
>> Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appear

KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Good point. I run 40 psi in my tires.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of L. D. Mueller
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:52 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


You know that sometimes tire pressure will affect nose wheel shimmy. I 
hadn't seen that listed anywhere in reference to the shimmy issue.

Newbee KR project owner . . .

L. D. Mueller
521 North Madison Street
Cuba City, WI 53807
608-744-
- Original Message - 
From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Yes, It is the Diehl. Yes there is a gap space between the on each side of
> the bolt between it and the spring. NOt sure how the bolt would have 
> gotten
> bent. the bend is ever so slight. May be moot to the subject.
> I am sure I was not doing 75 when I pulled off and not as high as 85 when 
> I
> touched back down so it helps to hear that you have been able to do so
> without this issue. By the way, this is the first time my plane has done
> this.
> I also appreciate the info on your take off on your methods. This is why I
> was hoping to catch a ride with someone at the gathering. Wanted to get 
> more
> info and feel from those flying, espesially with the same configuration as
> mine.
> I think I need to look closely at the nose gear back at the fire wall 
> engine
> mount side.
>
> Anybody out there near Georgetown/ Lexington KY
>
> Jeff York
> KR-2 Flying
> N839BG
> Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> Email jeffyor...@qx.net
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:57 AM
> Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
>> Jeff,
>> It sounds as if you are referring to the Diehl nose gear which is what I
> have. I have never had an issue with shimmy on mine. I have rotated at
> speeds as high as 75 mph and landed as high as 85 mph all with no shimmy.
> The spring on mine does not contact the centering bolt when the gear is
> lined up straight. There is (guessing) a 1/8" space on each side of the 
> bolt
> between it and the spring. This allows for some free castering before
> contact with the spring. The purpose of the spring is to help align the 
> nose
> wheel for landing. You mentioned the centering bolt being bent and I think
> you had to do that prior to your shimmy. With the stops on the nose gear, 
> I
> just don't see how it could bend while taxiing. I can turn my plane either
> direction to it's limits and it will not bend the bolt. When you begin 
> your
> take off roll, apply enough up elevator to relieve most of the weight off
> the nose wheel without taking it off the pavement. Once you establish 
> enough
> speed to control the plane with rudder, gently raise the nose off the
> pavement and wait for the plane to fly itself off the runway. Upon landing
> and after the mains touch down, keep the nose up as long as possible until
> it settles on it's on onto the runway and continue to apply up elevator as
> you slow down. One thing to note is that with the nose gear, the plane 
> will
> stay on the runway and not float in ground effect once the mains touch 
> down.
> It will bounce on a hard landing as will any airplane.
>>
>> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> Wales, WI
>> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
>> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
>> Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:31 AM
>> To: KRnet
>> Subject: KR> Nose Gear question
>>
>>
>> OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, 
>> I
> am going to try and get your alls advise.
>>
>> Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose
> gear lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose
> came up and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set
> back down. I pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the 
> nose
> gear touch down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually
> wondering if it was the nose wheel or something significantly out of 
> balance
> with the engine.
>> I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked

KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread jeffyor...@qx.net
That is a good point. When was the last time I checked tire pressure?


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> Good point. I run 40 psi in my tires.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of L. D. Mueller
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:52 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> You know that sometimes tire pressure will affect nose wheel shimmy. I
> hadn't seen that listed anywhere in reference to the shimmy issue.
>
> Newbee KR project owner . . .
>
> L. D. Mueller
> 521 North Madison Street
> Cuba City, WI 53807
> 608-744-
> - Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > Yes, It is the Diehl. Yes there is a gap space between the on each side
of
> > the bolt between it and the spring. NOt sure how the bolt would have
> > gotten
> > bent. the bend is ever so slight. May be moot to the subject.
> > I am sure I was not doing 75 when I pulled off and not as high as 85
when
> > I
> > touched back down so it helps to hear that you have been able to do so
> > without this issue. By the way, this is the first time my plane has done
> > this.
> > I also appreciate the info on your take off on your methods. This is why
I
> > was hoping to catch a ride with someone at the gathering. Wanted to get
> > more
> > info and feel from those flying, espesially with the same configuration
as
> > mine.
> > I think I need to look closely at the nose gear back at the fire wall
> > engine
> > mount side.
> >
> > Anybody out there near Georgetown/ Lexington KY
> >
> > Jeff York
> > KR-2 Flying
> > N839BG
> > Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> > My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> > Email jeffyor...@qx.net
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:57 AM
> > Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
> >
> >
> >> Jeff,
> >> It sounds as if you are referring to the Diehl nose gear which is what
I
> > have. I have never had an issue with shimmy on mine. I have rotated at
> > speeds as high as 75 mph and landed as high as 85 mph all with no
shimmy.
> > The spring on mine does not contact the centering bolt when the gear is
> > lined up straight. There is (guessing) a 1/8" space on each side of the
> > bolt
> > between it and the spring. This allows for some free castering before
> > contact with the spring. The purpose of the spring is to help align the
> > nose
> > wheel for landing. You mentioned the centering bolt being bent and I
think
> > you had to do that prior to your shimmy. With the stops on the nose
gear,
> > I
> > just don't see how it could bend while taxiing. I can turn my plane
either
> > direction to it's limits and it will not bend the bolt. When you begin
> > your
> > take off roll, apply enough up elevator to relieve most of the weight
off
> > the nose wheel without taking it off the pavement. Once you establish
> > enough
> > speed to control the plane with rudder, gently raise the nose off the
> > pavement and wait for the plane to fly itself off the runway. Upon
landing
> > and after the mains touch down, keep the nose up as long as possible
until
> > it settles on it's on onto the runway and continue to apply up elevator
as
> > you slow down. One thing to note is that with the nose gear, the plane
> > will
> > stay on the runway and not float in ground effect once the mains touch
> > down.
> > It will bounce on a hard landing as will any airplane.
> >>
> >> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> >> Wales, WI
> >> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> >> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> >> Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
> >> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:31 AM
> >> To:

KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Robert L. Stone
Jeff,
 I have the same problem with my spam can (Cessna 152).  If I taxi too 
fast the nose wheel will start to shimmy and I have to come to an almost 
complete stop to get it to track straight.  If I taxi reasonable slow like 
maybe ten miles an hour, I have no problem.  On landing and take off, I keep 
the nose wheel of the runway as well as I can until the speed is enough for 
take off or when landing I keep the yoke back as long as I can so I am 
slowed down before the nose wheel touches.  My aircraft is equipped with a 
shimmy dampener and as far as I can see nothing is wrong with it.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

- Original Message - 
From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:30 AM
Subject: KR> Nose Gear question


> OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, I 
> am going to try and get your alls advise.
>
> Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose 
> gear lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose 
> came up and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set 
> back down. I pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the 
> nose gear touch down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually 
> wondering if it was the nose wheel or something significantly out of 
> balance with the engine.
> I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the tach 
> and noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time 
> getting the RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out ) 
> type throttle so I began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally 
> slowed down and I taxied off and back to my hanger.
>
> Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears to 
> hold the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was bent 
> before I started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose 
> wheel self centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told 
> indicates that you have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In 
> testing a couple of them at the gathering, I noticed they did not self 
> center and those owners indicated they had no shimmy issues. By the way 
> that information was not meant as any criticism of anyone else's KR. I 
> just wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment to others while there.
>
> Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much speed 
> thus precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this 
> centering bolt was already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still be 
> contained ) ?
>
> Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted to long and had to mush 
> speed before I pulled the nose wheel come up? Thus precipitated the whole 
> thing. Maybe I need to look at the nose gear at the point of the engine 
> mount / fire wall?
>
> Your thoughts experiences?
>
> Jeff York
> KR-2 Flying
> N839BG
> Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> Email jeffyor...@qx.net
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> 




KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Jacobs
On landing and take off, I keep the nose wheel of the runway as well as
I can

+++

For what it is worth - I experienced some serious shimmy just before
rotation on a C 206 that I fly regularly - I complained to the A, but
he could not find anything wrong.

Then I had the same problem on a totally different airplane (C 210) -
really bad, also just before rotation.  I had a chat to the regular
pilot and he never had any problems - clearly I was goofing something,
so I took a check ride with a buddy.

Short story is that this Piper driver was responding to the normal
(nose-high) stance of the Cessna's by subconsciously holding down stick
and placing increasing pressure on the nose wheel.

Did a few with the trim set right and neutral stick - no more shimmy.

Like I said, for what it is worth.

(Best solution:  Dump the training gear)

Steve Jacobs
Zambia




KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread jeffyor...@qx.net
Thanks Bob, I am going to check tire pressure and the Diehl gear at the
attach point. It just about has to be one of those 2 items as I had not
noticed this problem before so something has changed.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Jeff,
>  I have the same problem with my spam can (Cessna 152).  If I taxi too
> fast the nose wheel will start to shimmy and I have to come to an almost
> complete stop to get it to track straight.  If I taxi reasonable slow like
> maybe ten miles an hour, I have no problem.  On landing and take off, I
keep
> the nose wheel of the runway as well as I can until the speed is enough
for
> take off or when landing I keep the yoke back as long as I can so I am
> slowed down before the nose wheel touches.  My aircraft is equipped with a
> shimmy dampener and as far as I can see nothing is wrong with it.
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> rsto...@hot.rr.com
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:30 AM
> Subject: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but,
I
> > am going to try and get your alls advise.
> >
> > Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose
> > gear lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The
nose
> > came up and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set
> > back down. I pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the
> > nose gear touch down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was
actually
> > wondering if it was the nose wheel or something significantly out of
> > balance with the engine.
> > I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the
tach
> > and noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time
> > getting the RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out )
> > type throttle so I began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally
> > slowed down and I taxied off and back to my hanger.
> >
> > Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears
to
> > hold the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was
bent
> > before I started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose
> > wheel self centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told
> > indicates that you have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In
> > testing a couple of them at the gathering, I noticed they did not self
> > center and those owners indicated they had no shimmy issues. By the way
> > that information was not meant as any criticism of anyone else's KR. I
> > just wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment to others while there.
> >
> > Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much
speed
> > thus precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this
> > centering bolt was already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still
be
> > contained ) ?
> >
> > Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted to long and had to mush
> > speed before I pulled the nose wheel come up? Thus precipitated the
whole
> > thing. Maybe I need to look at the nose gear at the point of the engine
> > mount / fire wall?
> >
> > Your thoughts experiences?
> >
> > Jeff York
> > KR-2 Flying
> > N839BG
> > Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> > My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> > Email jeffyor...@qx.net
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Steve,
I resent that comment about the training gear. Let me tell you what my
Dad once told me when I was a little boy and would put off doing
thingsand I quote "Son, there are a lot of things in life we do not
want to do and will put them off. Now quit dragging your tail and get it
done." I have not dragged my tail since. Oh yea and just a little
note...when I returned from the 2005 KR Gathering, my hanger mate right
next to me who has an Avid tail dragger lost it on landing the day
before I returned and totaled his plane. He has two destroyed wings, a
bent fuselage and a shattered ego. He is a very experienced tail dragger
pilot who now wishes he had installed a nose gear. To each his own, they
are all beautiful flying machines and each takes special skills to
master. :-) 

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Steve Jacobs

... no more shimmy.Like I said, for what it is worth.

(Best solution:  Dump the training gear)

Steve Jacobs
Zambia


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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Jack Cooper
> (Best solution:  Dump the training gear)
>
> Steve Jacobs
> Zambia
Yeah, right, - Trade the shimmy for a ground loop.

Go ahead, flame me

Jack Cooper
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Bob Glidden
You need to get your dampner replaced,or atleast checked you can't look at 
them and tell if they are bad.And Cessna 152's dampners go out often...

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com 




KR> Nose Gear question and funny pokes and jabs

2008-10-12 Thread jeffyor...@qx.net
You guys are funny. On a day when I need lifting up, I can get a kick out of
the funny little jabs you guys poke at one another.

One week ago today, I got out sourced. Just 6 months ago I accepted the job
as  IT Director and was tasked to straighten up their network and relocate
it to their new headquarters. A pretty significate task .  So all is
complete now, network upgrades complete. So now my employer kicks me to the
curb. Or a positive way to look it is, I WORKED MYSELF OUT OF  JOB! My
employer now believes that the position is part time with no benefits.

I seen this happen to my dad and I remember years ago when just about every
male over 40 at my church got let go at Magnavox Government Electronics. I
guess the business mind set hasn't changed in all these years. Why pay good
wages to someone over 40 when you can buy to 20 something's for less then
half and give them no benefits. No offense meant to the 20 somethings, I
used to be one and worked hard to get up to the decsant pay scale I
attained. So much for hard work, experience and dedication. So therefore, I
thought the rule was you reaped what you sowed. That's what my father taught
me. Call me  naive or stupid and over 40. OK, so I am crying in my milk, or
beer, or whatever.

Keep up the funny jabs and pokes as long as it's meant for fun. I need a
good laugh.

Ok monitor, I got way off the KR subject on this one and I probably should
not have sent it.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net



- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Cooper" <kr2coo...@earthlink.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> > (Best solution:  Dump the training gear)
> >
> > Steve Jacobs
> > Zambia
> Yeah, right, - Trade the shimmy for a ground loop.
>
> Go ahead, flame me
>
> Jack Cooper
> >
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>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question and funny pokes and jabs

2008-10-12 Thread wilder_jeff Wilder
Great looking plane!.

I just wanted to say... sorry about the luck... this in the end could turn 
out to be a good thing

2002 I went through the same thing was hired on another company after 5 
months of looking
and was able to get pulled into the security industry.

I might suggest you look at the IT security field... pays well and LOTS of 
work.

-Jeff Wilder
CISSP,ISSMP, ISSAP,Security+,TICSA,MCP,I-net+,CCE,C/EH



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>You guys are funny. On a day when I need lifting up, I can get a kick out 
>of
>the funny little jabs you guys poke at one another.
>
>One week ago today, I got out sourced. Just 6 months ago I accepted the job
>as  IT Director and was tasked to straighten up their network and relocate
>it to their new headquarters. A pretty significate task .  So all is
>complete now, network upgrades complete. So now my employer kicks me to the
>curb. Or a positive way to look it is, I WORKED MYSELF OUT OF  JOB! My
>employer now believes that the position is part time with no benefits.
>
>I seen this happen to my dad and I remember years ago when just about every
>male over 40 at my church got let go at Magnavox Government Electronics. I
>guess the business mind set hasn't changed in all these years. Why pay good
>wages to someone over 40 when you can buy to 20 something's for less then
>half and give them no benefits. No offense meant to the 20 somethings, I
>used to be one and worked hard to get up to the decsant pay scale I
>attained. So much for hard work, experience and dedication. So therefore, I
>thought the rule was you reaped what you sowed. That's what my father 
>taught
>me. Call me  naive or stupid and over 40. OK, so I am crying in my milk, or
>beer, or whatever.
>
>Keep up the funny jabs and pokes as long as it's meant for fun. I need a
>good laugh.
>
>Ok monitor, I got way off the KR subject on this one and I probably should
>not have sent it.
>
>Jeff York
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>- Original Message -
>From: "Jack Cooper" <kr2coo...@earthlink.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:33 PM
>Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > > (Best solution:  Dump the training gear)
> > >
> > > Steve Jacobs
> > > Zambia
> > Yeah, right, - Trade the shimmy for a ground loop.
> >
> > Go ahead, flame me
> >
> > Jack Cooper
> > >
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KR> Nose Gear question and funny pokes and jabs

2008-10-12 Thread Al Friesen
Jeff,
Don't feel bad, it is just us old farts (70+) looking back. Al
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question and funny pokes and jabs


> You guys are funny. On a day when I need lifting up, I can get a kick out 
> of
> the funny little jabs you guys poke at one another.
>
> One week ago today, I got out sourced. Just 6 months ago I accepted the 
> job
> as  IT Director and was tasked to straighten up their network and relocate
> it to their new headquarters. A pretty significate task .  So all is
> complete now, network upgrades complete. So now my employer kicks me to 
> the
> curb. Or a positive way to look it is, I WORKED MYSELF OUT OF  JOB! My
> employer now believes that the position is part time with no benefits.
>
> I seen this happen to my dad and I remember years ago when just about 
> every
> male over 40 at my church got let go at Magnavox Government Electronics. I
> guess the business mind set hasn't changed in all these years. Why pay 
> good
> wages to someone over 40 when you can buy to 20 something's for less then
> half and give them no benefits. No offense meant to the 20 somethings, I
> used to be one and worked hard to get up to the decsant pay scale I
> attained. So much for hard work, experience and dedication. So therefore, 
> I
> thought the rule was you reaped what you sowed. That's what my father 
> taught
> me. Call me  naive or stupid and over 40. OK, so I am crying in my milk, 
> or
> beer, or whatever.
>
> Keep up the funny jabs and pokes as long as it's meant for fun. I need a
> good laugh.
>
> Ok monitor, I got way off the KR subject on this one and I probably should
> not have sent it.
>
> Jeff York
> KR-2 Flying
> N839BG
> Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> Email jeffyor...@qx.net
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message - 
> From: "Jack Cooper" <kr2coo...@earthlink.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:33 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
>> > (Best solution:  Dump the training gear)
>> >
>> > Steve Jacobs
>> > Zambia
>> Yeah, right, - Trade the shimmy for a ground loop.
>>
>> Go ahead, flame me
>>
>> Jack Cooper
>> >
>> > ___
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>>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread DENE COLLETT (SA)
As they say, "There are only two types of taildragger pilots, those that
have ground looped ond those that are going to in the future"
I am sorry but it has taken me ten years of skimping here and there to rake
together enough money to get my plane where it is today. I have seen too
many reports of guys spending years building their pride and joy only to
have it trashed before the first flight due to a ground loop.
I will wimp out and fit mine with a "training wheel" but nobody will know
anyway. It will be tucked away inside the fuz in flight with the mains.
Now I hear someone saying that one day I will forget to extend them, maybe
but it will be fitted with an automatic system like the Lancair that extends
the gear when the speed drops below a certain level.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. At least he built it and IS
flying it, unlike some of us myself included.
Mark, you can park your trycycle next to mine anyday!
Regards
Dene Collett
KR2S builder
Freelance whisper assembler
South Africa
mailto: dene.coll...@telkomsa.net

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> (Best solution:  Dump the training gear)
>
> Steve Jacobs
> Zambia
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread patrusso
Dene
Can you share the how to build and tuck the nose wheel bit with us?
Pat
- Original Message - 

> I will wimp out and fit mine with a "training wheel" but nobody will know
> anyway. It will be tucked away inside the fuz in flight with the mains.
> 



KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread patrusso
Jeff
It may be a bit more than just "checking the tire pressure".  It might mean 
running much less pressure than is called for, sacrificing some tire 
lifeand you may find that acceptable. I know of two instance where 
reducing tire pressure immediately eliminated shimmy.
-Pat
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From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Thanks Bob, I am going to check tire pressure and the Diehl gear at the
> attach point. 




KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
Jef
Mr friend Garry Morgan has a KR2ss and now a Joey 2(a much larger KR2ss) he 
refuses to use the spring as Mark mentioned, he removes the spring and 
tightens the front assembly up tight but so he can turn the front wheel 
108dec and push his plane into the hanger.
He has been doing this for years with out any problems. I have flown his 
KR2ss and it handles great on the ground, he also use to have shimmy 
problems

Phil Matheson
mathes...@dodo.com.au
VH-PKR  ( Phil's KR)
61 3 58833588
Australia.( Down Under)
See My KR2 Building Web Page at:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html
See our VW Engines and Home built web page at
http://www.vw-engines.com/
www.homebuilt-aviation.com/
http://corvair.vw-engines.com/ 




KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
Should have been 180dec, (not 108 sorry)

Phil Matheson
mathes...@dodo.com.au
VH-PKR  ( Phil's KR)
61 3 58833588
Australia.( Down Under)
See My KR2 Building Web Page at:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html
See our VW Engines and Home built web page at
http://www.vw-engines.com/
www.homebuilt-aviation.com/
http://corvair.vw-engines.com/



KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Robert L. Stone
 I have heard lots of people scornfully refer to the nose wheel as a 
training wheel and regard pilots who fly airplanes with one as not real 
pilots and it doesn't bother me a bit.  I learned to fly on a nose wheel 
airplane and to me getting tail dragger qualified would be backing up.  The 
nose wheel was a great improvement when it first came out and almost 
eliminates ground looping so it's a good thing even if the tail dragger 
pilots refuse to recognize it as such.  It is just really a matter of 
personal preference.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com


-- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> Steve,
> I resent that comment about the training gear. Let me tell you what my
> Dad once told me when I was a little boy and would put off doing
> thingsand I quote "Son, there are a lot of things in life we do not
> want to do and will put them off. Now quit dragging your tail and get it
> done." I have not dragged my tail since. Oh yea and just a little
> note...when I returned from the 2005 KR Gathering, my hanger mate right
> next to me who has an Avid tail dragger lost it on landing the day
> before I returned and totaled his plane. He has two destroyed wings, a
> bent fuselage and a shattered ego. He is a very experienced tail dragger
> pilot who now wishes he had installed a nose gear. To each his own, they
> are all beautiful flying machines and each takes special skills to
> master. :-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Steve Jacobs
>
> ... no more shimmy.Like I said, for what it is worth.
>
> (Best solution:  Dump the training gear)
>
> Steve Jacobs
> Zambia
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Robert L. Stone
Bob,
 I had a friend put some weight on the tail and checked the shimmy 
dampner and got very good resistenance in both directions so I don't think 
that's the problem.  However next time I am in Temple where my maintenance 
guy is, I will have him check it.
\
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Glidden" <glid...@ccrtc.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> You need to get your dampner replaced,or atleast checked you can't look at
> them and tell if they are bad.And Cessna 152's dampners go out often...
>
> Bob Glidden
> Eminence,Indiana
> KR2S N181FW (building)
> Corvair 110
> glid...@ccrtc.com
>
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KR> Nose Gear question and funny pokes and jabs

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
In Australia, airport security. Once you finish the installation it is obsolete 
and you go back and install the next wiz-bang system.  Perpetual work :-)

regards
Barry
  - Original Message - 
  From: wilder_jeff Wilder 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:12 AM
  Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question and funny pokes and jabs


  Great looking plane!.

  I just wanted to say... sorry about the luck... this in the end could turn 
  out to be a good thing

  2002 I went through the same thing was hired on another company after 5 
  months of looking
  and was able to get pulled into the security industry.

  I might suggest you look at the IT security field... pays well and LOTS of 
  work.

  -Jeff Wilder
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the same for
everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been folded,
especially on grass strips.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com




KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Does that mean it takes a better pilot to land a nose gear on grass than a
taildragger pilot and a better pilot to land a taildragger on asphalt or
concrete than a nose wheel pilot. Hwe may be on to something
here...

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:57 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the same
for
> everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been folded,
> especially on grass strips.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Bray
Brian,
Did you get your Corvair book back?

Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:57:58 -0400
>
>This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the same for
>everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been folded,
>especially on grass strips.
>
>Brian Kraut
>Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
>www.engalt.com
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Bray
Mark
If you flew a taildragger you would already know that.
That was ment to be Jones and not James in my diatribe. You.
You shold know a taildragger pilot cand land anything anywhere.

Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:06:29 -0500
>
>Does that mean it takes a better pilot to land a nose gear on grass than a
>taildragger pilot and a better pilot to land a taildragger on asphalt or
>concrete than a nose wheel pilot. Hwe may be on to 
>something
>here...
>
>Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>Wales, WI  USA
>E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
>Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
>http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:57 PM
>Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the same
>for
> > everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been folded,
> > especially on grass strips.
> >
> > Brian Kraut
> > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > www.engalt.com
> >
> >
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
As tail dragger pilot, I prefer to land on grass, my worst landings are on 
ashpalt. 

regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
RAA 19-3873 

k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm 



  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Jones 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


  Does that mean it takes a better pilot to land a nose gear on grass than a
  taildragger pilot and a better pilot to land a taildragger on asphalt or
  concrete than a nose wheel pilot. Hwe may be on to something
  here...


KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Steve,
For the record, first let me tell you that I have tail dragger time logged
in my log book. I have many hours in the followingJ3 Cub, Citabria,
Champ, C-180 and Taylorcraft. So, I guess in reality, I am a tail dragger
pilot. Right? I chose nose gear for my KR because I like the looks of the
plane on Tri Gear. It looks larger on Tri Gear than as a tail dragger and it
is much less prone to damage incurred by ground loops. All in all, the tri
gear KR is safer on landing, easier to control and more forgiving. In the
air, they fly the same and look the same except for the drag incurred by the
nose gear. All of this ribbing each other is in pure fun because all KR's
are beautiful planes and ALL KR Pilots are highly skilled pilots or you
would not be flying a high performance KR. Keep smiling, keep laughing and
keep the ribbing coming because neither type of pilot is any better than the
other. Remember, it is a choice I made after having many hours as a tail
dragger pilot. LOL :-)  :-)  :-)

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Mark
> If you flew a taildragger you would already know that.
> That was ment to be Jones and not James in my diatribe. You.
> You shold know a taildragger pilot cand land anything anywhere.
>
> Steve Bray
> Jackson, Tennessee
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> >Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
> >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:06:29 -0500
> >
> >Does that mean it takes a better pilot to land a nose gear on grass than
a
> >taildragger pilot and a better pilot to land a taildragger on asphalt or
> >concrete than a nose wheel pilot. Hwe may be on to
> >something
> >here...
> >
> >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> >Wales, WI  USA
> >E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:57 PM
> >Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
> >
> >
> > > This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the
same
> >for
> > > everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been
folded,
> > > especially on grass strips.
> > >
> > > Brian Kraut
> > > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > > www.engalt.com
> > >
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Bray
Mark
I agree with you 100%. I am NOT a KR pilot, as yet. Are Noss wheel KR's 
harder to deal with on grass?
I was tryin to enlighten the other gut to why taildragger pilots act like 
they do.
I'm still trying to decide which way to go, I have a nose wheel and I will 
be flyin from a hard surface.
There is just sometimes more adrenalin pumped with a tailwheer.
Good job on your return trip, cool head and exactly the way I hope I would 
have done it. And congrats on your passenger, you've started something! 
Something that may go on down the line.
When you gonna fly your wife? After all she let her car set outside all that 
time, she deserves a ride.
Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:59:51 -0500
>
>Steve,
>For the record, first let me tell you that I have tail dragger time logged
>in my log book. I have many hours in the followingJ3 Cub, Citabria,
>Champ, C-180 and Taylorcraft. So, I guess in reality, I am a tail dragger
>pilot. Right? I chose nose gear for my KR because I like the looks of the
>plane on Tri Gear. It looks larger on Tri Gear than as a tail dragger and 
>it
>is much less prone to damage incurred by ground loops. All in all, the tri
>gear KR is safer on landing, easier to control and more forgiving. In the
>air, they fly the same and look the same except for the drag incurred by 
>the
>nose gear. All of this ribbing each other is in pure fun because all KR's
>are beautiful planes and ALL KR Pilots are highly skilled pilots or you
>would not be flying a high performance KR. Keep smiling, keep laughing and
>keep the ribbing coming because neither type of pilot is any better than 
>the
>other. Remember, it is a choice I made after having many hours as a tail
>dragger pilot. LOL :-)  :-)  :-)
>
>Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>Wales, WI  USA
>E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
>Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
>http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com>
>To: <kr...@mylist.net>
>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:36 PM
>Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > Mark
> > If you flew a taildragger you would already know that.
> > That was ment to be Jones and not James in my diatribe. You.
> > You shold know a taildragger pilot cand land anything anywhere.
> >
> > Steve Bray
> > Jackson, Tennessee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> > >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > >Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
> > >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:06:29 -0500
> > >
> > >Does that mean it takes a better pilot to land a nose gear on grass 
>than
>a
> > >taildragger pilot and a better pilot to land a taildragger on asphalt 
>or
> > >concrete than a nose wheel pilot. Hwe may be on to
> > >something
> > >here...
> > >
> > >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > >Wales, WI  USA
> > >E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> > >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> > >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> > >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:57 PM
> > >Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
> > >
> > >
> > > > This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the
>same
> > >for
> > > > everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been
>folded,
> > > > especially on grass strips.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Kraut
> > > > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > > > www.engalt.com
> > > >
> > > >
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Steve,
I have no experience yet with flying a nose wheel on or off grass so I can
not answer that question. I have taxied on grass with no problem. I think
that if you treat it like a soft field take off and landing there would be
no problems. Especially on a dry hard turf. Wet and soggy should be avoided.
My wife has only flown with me four times and that was years ago before any
children came into the picture. Now she says she does not want to fly
together because if something were to happen, she does not want our children
to be parentless. Funny thing is that we fly commercial together often. Tail
wheel or nose wheel, both will make your adrenaline pump. I have flown in
one tail dragger KR and that was with Marty Roberts. It was not the plane
that made my adrenaline pump but the way he flew the plane with me in it
high speed dive to a 219 mph indicated high speed pass down MVN runway at
the 2004 Gathering. That was a rush

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Mark
> I agree with you 100%. I am NOT a KR pilot, as yet. Are Noss wheel KR's
> harder to deal with on grass?
> I was tryin to enlighten the other gut to why taildragger pilots act like
> they do.
> I'm still trying to decide which way to go, I have a nose wheel and I will
> be flyin from a hard surface.
> There is just sometimes more adrenalin pumped with a tailwheer.
> Good job on your return trip, cool head and exactly the way I hope I would
> have done it. And congrats on your passenger, you've started something!
> Something that may go on down the line.
> When you gonna fly your wife? After all she let her car set outside all
that
> time, she deserves a ride.
> Steve Bray
> Jackson, Tennessee
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> >Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
> >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:59:51 -0500
> >
> >Steve,
> >For the record, first let me tell you that I have tail dragger time
logged
> >in my log book. I have many hours in the followingJ3 Cub, Citabria,
> >Champ, C-180 and Taylorcraft. So, I guess in reality, I am a tail dragger
> >pilot. Right? I chose nose gear for my KR because I like the looks of the
> >plane on Tri Gear. It looks larger on Tri Gear than as a tail dragger and
> >it
> >is much less prone to damage incurred by ground loops. All in all, the
tri
> >gear KR is safer on landing, easier to control and more forgiving. In the
> >air, they fly the same and look the same except for the drag incurred by
> >the
> >nose gear. All of this ribbing each other is in pure fun because all KR's
> >are beautiful planes and ALL KR Pilots are highly skilled pilots or you
> >would not be flying a high performance KR. Keep smiling, keep laughing
and
> >keep the ribbing coming because neither type of pilot is any better than
> >the
> >other. Remember, it is a choice I made after having many hours as a tail
> >dragger pilot. LOL :-)  :-)  :-)
> >
> >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> >Wales, WI  USA
> >E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com>
> >To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:36 PM
> >Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
> >
> >
> > > Mark
> > > If you flew a taildragger you would already know that.
> > > That was ment to be Jones and not James in my diatribe. You.
> > > You shold know a taildragger pilot cand land anything anywhere.
> > >
> > > Steve Bray
> > > Jackson, Tennessee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
> > > >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> > > >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > > >Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
> > > >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:06:29 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Does that mean it takes a better pilot to land a nose gear on grass
> >than
> >a
> > > >taildragger pilot and a better pilot to land a taildragger on asphalt
> >or
> > > >concrete than a nose wheel pilot. Hwe m

KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Bray
Mark
I understand the way yiur wife sees it and would not agrue.
Our kids are older.
I fly the 172 off grass and it makes a lot of diffrence if I get the 
nosewhill out of the grass early,drag. Ifact the first time I flew the VP 
out of that field I held the tailwheel down and it wouldn't fly. That was my 
first grass landing in the VP and I bent the gear on the landing. Learnd a 
lot that day.

Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:27:10 -0500
>
>Steve,
>I have no experience yet with flying a nose wheel on or off grass so I can
>not answer that question. I have taxied on grass with no problem. I think
>that if you treat it like a soft field take off and landing there would be
>no problems. Especially on a dry hard turf. Wet and soggy should be 
>avoided.
>My wife has only flown with me four times and that was years ago before any
>children came into the picture. Now she says she does not want to fly
>together because if something were to happen, she does not want our 
>children
>to be parentless. Funny thing is that we fly commercial together often. 
>Tail
>wheel or nose wheel, both will make your adrenaline pump. I have flown in
>one tail dragger KR and that was with Marty Roberts. It was not the plane
>that made my adrenaline pump but the way he flew the plane with me in 
>it
>high speed dive to a 219 mph indicated high speed pass down MVN runway at
>the 2004 Gathering. That was a rush
>
>Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>Wales, WI  USA
>E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
>Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
>http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com>
>To: <kr...@mylist.net>
>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:10 PM
>Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > Mark
> > I agree with you 100%. I am NOT a KR pilot, as yet. Are Noss wheel KR's
> > harder to deal with on grass?
> > I was tryin to enlighten the other gut to why taildragger pilots act 
>like
> > they do.
> > I'm still trying to decide which way to go, I have a nose wheel and I 
>will
> > be flyin from a hard surface.
> > There is just sometimes more adrenalin pumped with a tailwheer.
> > Good job on your return trip, cool head and exactly the way I hope I 
>would
> > have done it. And congrats on your passenger, you've started something!
> > Something that may go on down the line.
> > When you gonna fly your wife? After all she let her car set outside all
>that
> > time, she deserves a ride.
> > Steve Bray
> > Jackson, Tennessee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> > >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > >Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
> > >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:59:51 -0500
> > >
> > >Steve,
> > >For the record, first let me tell you that I have tail dragger time
>logged
> > >in my log book. I have many hours in the followingJ3 Cub, Citabria,
> > >Champ, C-180 and Taylorcraft. So, I guess in reality, I am a tail 
>dragger
> > >pilot. Right? I chose nose gear for my KR because I like the looks of 
>the
> > >plane on Tri Gear. It looks larger on Tri Gear than as a tail dragger 
>and
> > >it
> > >is much less prone to damage incurred by ground loops. All in all, the
>tri
> > >gear KR is safer on landing, easier to control and more forgiving. In 
>the
> > >air, they fly the same and look the same except for the drag incurred 
>by
> > >the
> > >nose gear. All of this ribbing each other is in pure fun because all 
>KR's
> > >are beautiful planes and ALL KR Pilots are highly skilled pilots or you
> > >would not be flying a high performance KR. Keep smiling, keep laughing
>and
> > >keep the ribbing coming because neither type of pilot is any better 
>than
> > >the
> > >other. Remember, it is a choice I made after having many hours as a 
>tail
> > >dragger pilot. LOL :-)  :-)  :-)
> > >
> > >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > >Wales, WI  USA
> > >E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> > >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> > >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com>
> > >

Réf. : Re: KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Serge VIDAL
Funny enough, I flew a taildragger this week-end (Robin DR221), made two 
nearly perfect landings on tar, followed by a very ugly one on the grass 
strip back at the base.

As a KR2 pilot, I tend to overcontrol a lot on landing (quick and wide 
motions on the stick) while on grass, but not on tar. Go figure...

Hey, one more training session to go, then I will be allowed to present to 
the exam, and if I pass, I will get a nice, European PPL to replace my 
expired South African one! Then I will HAVE to finish the KR2 to use that 
licence! 

Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France





"Barry Kruyssen" <k...@bigpond.com>

Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net
2005-09-20 04:36
Veuillez répondre à KRnet
Remis le : 2005-09-20 04:37


Pour :  "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
Objet : Re: KR> Nose Gear question



As tail dragger pilot, I prefer to land on grass, my worst landings are on 
ashpalt. 

regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
RAA 19-3873 

k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm 



  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Jones 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


  Does that mean it takes a better pilot to land a nose gear on grass than 
a
  taildragger pilot and a better pilot to land a taildragger on asphalt or
  concrete than a nose wheel pilot. Hwe may be on to 
something
  here...
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread jeffyor...@qx.net
OK, I am confused, some say check to make sure I have 40 PSI in the nose
wheel and you seem to be saying to decrease the tire pressure to reduce
shimmy.

Which is it?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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- Original Message - 
From: "patrusso" <patru...@sover.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Jeff
> It may be a bit more than just "checking the tire pressure".  It might
mean
> running much less pressure than is called for, sacrificing some tire
> lifeand you may find that acceptable. I know of two instance where
> reducing tire pressure immediately eliminated shimmy.
> -Pat
>  Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > Thanks Bob, I am going to check tire pressure and the Diehl gear at the
> > attach point.
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
Jeff,
My tires are rated for a max of 70 psi. Some folks think just because the 
rating says that then you should inflate to max pressure. That is not the case. 
Max pressure rating is for certain weights and the lighter the load the less 
the pressure. 40 PSI works for me but your results may vary. Try 40 PSI and see 
what happens the adjust accordingly.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:38 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


OK, I am confused, some say check to make sure I have 40 PSI in the nose
wheel and you seem to be saying to decrease the tire pressure to reduce
shimmy.

Which is it?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "patrusso" <patru...@sover.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Jeff
> It may be a bit more than just "checking the tire pressure".  It might
mean
> running much less pressure than is called for, sacrificing some tire
> lifeand you may find that acceptable. I know of two instance where
> reducing tire pressure immediately eliminated shimmy.
> -Pat
>  Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > Thanks Bob, I am going to check tire pressure and the Diehl gear at the
> > attach point.
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Jeff Scott
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
I wasn't missing one.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
Steve Bray
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:32 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


Brian,
Did you get your Corvair book back?

Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:57:58 -0400
>
>This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the same for
>everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been folded,
>especially on grass strips.
>
>Brian Kraut
>Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
>www.engalt.com
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Bray
Sorry
I though you left one on the table and it left.
Steve



Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee





>From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:46:07 -0400
>
>I wasn't missing one.
>
>Brian Kraut
>Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
>www.engalt.com
>
>-Original Message-
>From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
>[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
>Steve Bray
>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:32 PM
>To: kr...@mylist.net
>Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
>Brian,
>Did you get your Corvair book back?
>
>Steve Bray
>Jackson, Tennessee
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> >Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
> >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:57:58 -0400
> >
> >This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the same 
>for
> >everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been folded,
> >especially on grass strips.
> >
> >Brian Kraut
> >Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> >www.engalt.com
> >
> >
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KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
I don't think that nose wheels are necessarilly "harder" to deal with on
grass.  The differences are as follows:

Tail wheel planes are more likely to ground loop than nose wheels on any
surface.  They are more likely to ground loop on a hard runway than grass,
but can ground loop on either.  As far as tailwheel planes go though, the KR
is fairly tame on the ground.

A tailwheel plane is much better on soft or wet unpaved runways.  Nose
wheels tend to dig in, especially at lower speeds when you have more weight
on the nose wheel.

Nose gear has been known to break off on unpaved runways that are very soft
or not smooth.  The KR nose gear is not the strongest and plenty of people
have landed hard on the nose wheel or hit ruts and had them fold.  I have
seen many a spam can with a folded nose gear also.

A tailwheel plane is lighter and faster than the equivalent nose wheel
plane.

A tailwheel plane can take off in a shorter distance than the same nose
wheel plane, even if they weighed the same and had the same drag, especially
on a grass strip.  Most people do not realize this, but the reason is
simple.  On a tailwheel plane you start the takeoff roll with the stick
forward and the tail comes up shortly after you start rolling.  The
stabilizer is acting as a wing while you are rolling down the runway and
creating lift.  A look at my last KR weight and ballance shows that with a
full header tank and a 170 pound pilot that there was 53 pounds on the
tailwheel.  Therefore, while on the takeoff roll with the tail up the stab
is generating 53 pounds of lift.  That is 53 pounds that the wing is not
having to lift, 53 pounds that is not being supported by the main gear, and
less rolling drag on the wheels that is slowing your acceleration.

In the same situation in a nosewheel plane you are pulling back on the stick
to lower the tail and raise the nose.  This means that your stabilizer is
generating lift in the downward direction to raise the nose and that is
probably 30 - 50 pounds more that the wing has to lift and more weight on
the mains slowing you down while you roll down the runway.

This tail down or tail up force is the same on both tail and nose wheel
planes once you are off the ground, but while you are rolling the wing and
gear sees a "heavier" and "draggier" nose wheel plane which increases your
take off roll.

Anyway, it still remains that what is better depends on where and how you
fly and what your comfort level, weight, and speed thresholds are.

One bit of advice I can give is that if you are planing on putting on a nose
wheel just because you have never flown a taildragger that you should get a
few hours in a tailwheel plane with an instructor first and see how you like
it.  Give it at least 2-3 hours though if you are doing terrible after the
first hour.  It is one of those things that most people are terrible at at
first until you just get it.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
Steve Bray
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:10 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


Mark
I agree with you 100%. I am NOT a KR pilot, as yet. Are Noss wheel KR's
harder to deal with on grass?
I was tryin to enlighten the other gut to why taildragger pilots act like
they do.
I'm still trying to decide which way to go, I have a nose wheel and I will
be flyin from a hard surface.
There is just sometimes more adrenalin pumped with a tailwheer.
Good job on your return trip, cool head and exactly the way I hope I would
have done it. And congrats on your passenger, you've started something!
Something that may go on down the line.
When you gonna fly your wife? After all she let her car set outside all that
time, she deserves a ride.
Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:59:51 -0500
>
>Steve,
>For the record, first let me tell you that I have tail dragger time logged
>in my log book. I have many hours in the followingJ3 Cub, Citabria,
>Champ, C-180 and Taylorcraft. So, I guess in reality, I am a tail dragger
>pilot. Right? I chose nose gear for my KR because I like the looks of the
>plane on Tri Gear. It looks larger on Tri Gear than as a tail dragger and
>it
>is much less prone to damage incurred by ground loops. All in all, the tri
>gear KR is safer on landing, easier to control and more forgiving. In the
>air, they fly the same and look the same except for the drag incurred by
>the
>nose gear. All of this ribbing each other is in pure fun because all KR's
>are beautiful planes and ALL KR Pilots are highly skilled pilots or you

KR> Nose Gear question

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
The manual was recovered by Bob Glidden and returned to the rightful owner.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Bray" <rsb...@hotmail.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> Sorry
> I though you left one on the table and it left.
> Steve
>
>
>
> Steve Bray
> Jackson, Tennessee
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> >Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
> >Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:46:07 -0400
> >
> >I wasn't missing one.
> >
> >Brian Kraut
> >Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> >www.engalt.com
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt....@mylist.net
> >[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> >Steve Bray
> >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:32 PM
> >To: kr...@mylist.net
> >Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
> >
> >
> >Brian,
> >Did you get your Corvair book back?
> >
> >Steve Bray
> >Jackson, Tennessee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> > >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> > >To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > >Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
> > >Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:57:58 -0400
> > >
> > >This has been beat to death and the correct gear to use is not the same
> >for
> > >everyone, but keep in mind that plenty of nose wheels have been folded,
> > >especially on grass strips.
> > >
> > >Brian Kraut
> > >Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > >www.engalt.com
> > >
> > >
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